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M.U.G.E.N Central => Your Releases, older Mugen => Topic started by: alucard1610 on May 05, 2009, 07:06:48 am

Title: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: alucard1610 on May 05, 2009, 07:06:48 am
Finally I release the Batman 1.0 version for Marvel vs DC / DC vs Marvel Project, enjoy it.

http://www.lethalmugen.com/ (http://www.lethalmugen.com/)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CObTgIrlBjI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CObTgIrlBjI)


                                                BATMAN



WHATS LEFT:


- IA
- Code optimization
- Some special Intros
- Sounds
- Fix any bugs
- Some new specials (Batzarro and Kryptonite Batman)
- Two new hypers (Batzarro and Kryptonite Batman)
- Amalgam (Complete in private version)
- Fix some sprites


WHATS DONE:

Basics
- Stance
- Turn
- Crouch
- Walk (forward/backwards)
- Dash (forward/backwards)
- Blocking
- Gethits/falling/KO
- Jump
- Jump forward/backward
- All standing punches/kicks
- All crouching punches/kicks
- All air punches/kicks
- Taunt
- Chain Combos
- Intros
- Win Poses
- 40 Speiclas
- 8 Hypers
- Recovery
- Dizzy
- Lose by time
- Stone (for Thanos)
- Frozen state (for Ice)
- Electrocuted state (Thor, Blanka)
- Burn (for some chars)


BATMAN COLORS


Normal Colors

1- Marvel vs DC Batman
2- Dark Knight
3- Caped Crusader (classic blue)
4- World's Greatest Detective
5- Black Classic Batman
6- 40's Batman

(http://www.lethalmugen.com/images/BATMAN_COLORS.png)
(http://www.lethalmugen.com/images/BATMAN_MOVES.png)
(http://www.lethalmugen.com/images/BATMAN_MOVES2.png)
(http://www.lethalmugen.com/images/BATMAN_MOVES3.png)
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: !E on May 05, 2009, 07:24:49 am
sweet sprite work, 8)

the crouching animation looks weird because his belt is not moving.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Cloudius on May 05, 2009, 08:01:50 am
As stated Crouching animation looks weird.

Everything else is just very nice and stylish.  ;D
Super pause FX looks awesome and nicely animated.
Batman's theme =  :sugoi:

Air Combo dont work as well as it should.

More later.
Great Job.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: RunningWild on May 05, 2009, 08:04:55 am
What the fuck is up with palette 11. And wtf, 40 specials and 8 Hypers? O_o
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: alucard1610 on May 05, 2009, 08:12:20 am
What the fuck is up with palette 11. And wtf, 40 specials and 8 Hypers? O_o

the pallette 11 refers to the old anti-batman

(http://wiki.superman.nu/wiki/images/e/e1/S_finest_159.jpg)

(http://comics.athenaguides.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/superman_batman03.jpg)

XD

an thank you your your comments Im working on the bugs
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: RunningWild on May 05, 2009, 08:13:13 am
Well regardless, that palette looks terrible.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: yanchan on May 05, 2009, 09:37:19 am
finally ... a great and COMPLETED batman project ... This is a insane work!  :o
Congratulation Alucard, fortunately you're here for mugen's world and for his many fan  ;)
So, let's play with the legendary icon of dc  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Messatsu on May 05, 2009, 09:46:31 am
What the fuck is up with palette 11. And wtf, 40 specials and 8 Hypers? O_o
He's Batman.  Quit your whining. --;
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Red hood on May 05, 2009, 11:47:22 am
give credits to the sprites and codes you used, and it s good
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Marioman19 on May 05, 2009, 01:53:01 pm
I'm on the school computer, I'll download and test this later. It looks good so far, though. :P

My only problem is that I'm not using MvsDC, so the portrait will look all wonky. Meh, as long as it's good, I don't care.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Cybaster on May 05, 2009, 02:20:17 pm
This character has a lot of potential. :) The graphics are very nice, kinda flashy but not too much. However, the gameplay needs a lot of tweaks and fine tuning to make it solid and more enjoyable.

- Well, not a big deal, but it could be nice to include normal small and large portraits for regular Mugen release.
- The debug flood is horrible. o_O
- CLSNs need a lot of work (too many boxes + infinite priority + non consistency). Please go look at K.O.D's tutorial to see how they should be done.
- No dash sound.
- Batman should jump further during Batcontact. It doesn't look realistic as it is. Plus, either the opponent should bounce on the wall, either he should fall, but not go far away and recover as it is now.
- F+P throw is strange : The opponent doesn't fall to the ground immediately, but goes horizontally a little bit before.
- F+K throw has a very bad custom state. It looks like the opponent is flying.
- Batarangs don't touch when performed close to the opponent (except when they come back).
- Batbolas is done with kick (bad command in readme).
- I noticed Batman can bounce on the wall by doing qcf : you should limit it to 1 or 2 try. I was able to stay at the top of the stage using this. :P
- Stun Bomb is strange. Plus, it doesn't work correctly on a cornered opponent.
- Final hit of darkknight combo HP should make the opponent bounce on the wall.
- Final hit of darkknight combo HP doesn't touch if the opponent is in the corner.
- Is it normal that we can guard the last hit of Bat kicks ?
- Bats are too big and don't move well during bat swarn.
- No CLSN during the super startup ? That's holy unbalanced. It looks misaligned on bat swarn for example.
- Crime alley vengence does WAY TOO MUCH damage for a Lv1 super.
- Crime alley vengence doesn't seem to catch the opponent perfectly on the head at the beginning.
- Dark Knight Ride has very good ideas but isn't done very well IMO. The floor sprite is bleh. Batmobile has anice shape but really needs anti-aliasing to match with Batman sprite-wise. Plus, at the end, when we see the background, Batmobile stops, shoots, but the then the piece of background we see where the opponent is is the same as the one where the batmobile just was, which is really strange.
- Crime Alley Vengence, DK Ride and Batmen all do more or less the same quantity of damage.

Well, that's all for now. I only tested normal mode, but you can see there are many things I wished were fixed. Overall, you've done some very nice job with the sprites and the ideas, but it needs a lot of work in the gameplay department.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Red hood on May 05, 2009, 02:33:24 pm
sorry guys, he won t answer, he just quit mugen because everybody was harrassing him for using sprites and codes without permissions.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Cybaster on May 05, 2009, 02:46:28 pm
:gonk:
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: BrundleFly on May 05, 2009, 03:32:13 pm
:gonk:

LOL 
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: K.O.D on May 05, 2009, 03:39:31 pm
all that time and effort cybaster spent writing up feedback went to waste :(
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on May 05, 2009, 03:47:32 pm
:gonk:

LOL 
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 05, 2009, 03:54:33 pm
sorry guys, he won t answer, he just quit mugen because everybody was harrassing him for using sprites and codes without permissions.

Mind telling us where you're getting this from as right now you have no proof.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on May 05, 2009, 03:57:35 pm
You can read whole story on Scruffy Dragon Forum in release topic. Also he posted news on his site regarding this case.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 05, 2009, 04:01:19 pm
So, scruffy dragon banned his ass over using codes and sprites that were made from others?

How... interesting....

His supers seem interesting, love the idea of calling the legion of batmen.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 05, 2009, 04:02:10 pm
You can read whole story on Scruffy Dragon Forum in release topic. Also he posted news on his site regarding this case.

I don't want to register just to read that. :P
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on May 05, 2009, 04:03:38 pm
No actually Magus defended him.

I don't want to register just to read that. :P

It's not my problem. You asked I answered. End of story.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 05, 2009, 04:06:34 pm
All those versus projects would only gain of working in cooperation, the moment there was 3 silver surfers released in a matter of a couple of months only further demonstrated that.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 05, 2009, 04:08:45 pm
No actually Magus defended him.

Huh, then why was his site wiped from Scruffy?

It's not my problem. You asked I answered. End of story.

That was rather uncalled for.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Cybaster on May 05, 2009, 04:15:27 pm
All those versus projects
But it's what they are : VERSUS project, aka projects meant to compete one against the other. :wiseguy:

But I'll fix it for you :
All those versus projects would only gain of being coded by Loganir alone.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 05, 2009, 04:18:10 pm
I liked deadpool too, i dont think that was loganir, could be wrong.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 05, 2009, 04:19:23 pm
That was Unlimited Forums, which as far as I know is a totally separate entity.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Red hood on May 05, 2009, 04:48:59 pm
That was Unlimited Forums, which as far as I know is a totally separate entity.
yes, they are half of their stuff have been stolen to do this batman:
(http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.png)
the character has some moves and coding from IMT batman, and the one by spiderbat.
Magus is the one that gave the sprites to alucard telling him they were "clean" so he is the one to blame.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 05, 2009, 04:53:45 pm
On the guild we dont mind as long as people arent rude going like "fuck the original spriters!" , if he admitted he based his sprites from other stuff and didnt lie, all is good.

We had a asshole like that a while ago, going like "FUCK THE SPRITERS! I WILL ONLY CREDIT CAPCOM AND MARVEL! THE OTHERS ARE MY PAWNS! I will still use their stuff cuz i cant do shit tho, lulz"
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Laxxe23 on May 05, 2009, 04:54:49 pm
No actually Magus defended him.

Huh, then why was his site wiped from Scruffy?

some other admin apparently did it i think, according to their forums when i was curious to what was going on, another admin had banned him
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: O Ilusionista on May 05, 2009, 04:57:06 pm
All those versus projects would only gain of working in cooperation, the moment there was 3 silver surfers released in a matter of a couple of months only further demonstrated that.

And, just to note, none of them are perfect. There are some decent versions, but there are some scary versions :)

Quote
Magus is the one that gave the sprites to alucard telling him they were "clean" so he is the one to blame.

Magus is someone very hard to handle, We have our differences...but AFAIK him, he isn't such kind of creator to steal something from a forum. In fact, the history tells the opposit...
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 05, 2009, 05:00:03 pm
I don't know why Magus wouldn'tve just given Alucard his Batman to finish rather than causing this.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Red hood on May 05, 2009, 05:08:01 pm
JUST check the readme file and you will see that this character has been made by magus and alucard.  :-X

NO ONE IS CREDITED  --;
All those versus projects would only gain of working in cooperation, the moment there was 3 silver surfers released in a matter of a couple of months only further demonstrated that.

And, just to note, none of them are perfect. There are some decent versions, but there are some scary versions :)

Quote
Magus is the one that gave the sprites to alucard telling him they were "clean" so he is the one to blame.

Magus is someone very hard to handle, We have our differences...but AFAIK him, he isn't such kind of creator to steal something from a forum. In fact, the history tells the opposit...
SO are you gonna tell me that his pocket's batman 's coding isn t stolen from hearthburn kid??
because it is.  ;P
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 05, 2009, 05:10:22 pm
Prove that.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: vane3635 on May 05, 2009, 05:12:16 pm
does it really matter if he had copy some of the works.  The fact of the matter is that this is a great char, a better version to scuffydragon version if I may say so.  Call it an update or an edit version if you want.  If yo have the time to complain then yo should create a better version. ;D
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Mgbenz on May 05, 2009, 05:15:23 pm
Oh sure.
/me steals some character, makes it better and calls it his own.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Red hood on May 05, 2009, 05:15:38 pm
Prove that.
DO we have to prove you everything or are you gonna just open a cns or fighter factory in your life?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Red hood on May 05, 2009, 05:16:49 pm
does it really matter if he had copy some of the works.  The fact of the matter is that this is a great char, a better version to scuffydragon version if I may say so.  Call it an update or an edit version if you want.  If yo have the time to complain then yo should create a better version. ;D
i didn t wait for you  ;D
check the readme in IMT batman, i think my name is mentionNED a little.  >:D
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 05, 2009, 05:17:27 pm
DO we have to prove you everything or are you gonna just open a cns or fighter factory in your life?

You're just using acquisitions based on this one character.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Red hood on May 05, 2009, 05:18:48 pm
DO we have to prove you everything or are you gonna just open a cns or fighter factory in your life?

You're just using acquisitions based on this one character.
YOU ARE JUST STUPID  ::)
enough talking, i have havok to finish.
SEE YOU or not.  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: O Ilusionista on May 05, 2009, 05:19:26 pm
oh man, so many whining...just because this Batman is better than any other. --;
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 05, 2009, 05:22:16 pm
What an unneeded attitude he had.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: O Ilusionista on May 05, 2009, 05:24:33 pm
What an unneeded attitude he had.

+1
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: volzzilla on May 05, 2009, 05:36:03 pm
Posting this video showing off all the special and hyper moves. This was all done before I knew of any drama. Hopefully something is cleared up as he is fun to play with.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CGlQIxBz98
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Raizo on May 05, 2009, 05:58:33 pm
Damn, ScruffyDragon is always into some retarded drama.

Anyways, this is in my opinion, the best Batman available for Mugen. Still needs tweaking, but all around very well made.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Gate on May 05, 2009, 06:03:53 pm
does it really matter if he had copy some of the works.  The fact of the matter is that this is a great char, a better version to scuffydragon version if I may say so.  Call it an update or an edit version if you want.  If yo have the time to complain then yo should create a better version. ;D
i didn t wait for you  ;D
check the readme in IMT batman, i think my name is mentionNED a little.  >:D

Quote
better version

Quote
IMT batman

It's just me or we have a great contradicton here?

Unnecessary to say, this is the best Batman currently released for mugen. I like the Batzarro mode.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: tunglashor on May 05, 2009, 06:07:23 pm
the character has some moves and coding from IMT batman, and the one by spiderbat.
DO we have to prove you everything or are you gonna just open a cns or fighter factory in your life?

Care to elaborate on what was taken from "IMT batman"?  I see nothing obvious in the CNS...
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: O Ilusionista on May 05, 2009, 06:11:59 pm
Quote
Care to elaborate on what was taken from "IMT batman"?  I see nothing obvious in the CNS...

because he uses batrangs too, hahaha.
Serious, I would like to see that too.

Damn, ScruffyDragon is always into some retarded drama.

Anyways, this is in my opinion, the best Batman available for Mugen. Still needs tweaking, but all around very well made.

On that case, Isn't is Scruffy who started the drama.

The drama here, actually, is that Batman is way better than the other. so the cry is free :)
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 05, 2009, 06:47:01 pm
Great, but what's up not including the amalgam for the release for everyone?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Raizo on May 05, 2009, 07:00:35 pm
On that case, Isn't is Scruffy who started the drama.

The drama here, actually, is that Batman is way better than the other. so the cry is free :)

I thought it had something to do with "stolen code" from others works? Not necessarily just IMT's Batman; or which is the better version.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: gokudo99 on May 05, 2009, 07:08:31 pm
now what happens when imt updates thier batman,looks like we got a little competition goin on here, or maybe not. all in all im waiting for a decent flash. its ironic, my favorite dc charcter and NO ONE has created a good completed version of him yet, its like im not supposed to be happy, story of my life. why do fate and destiny insist on mocking me, its not fair dammit :'(, lol nah im just messin around. superb batman by the way. i like him better than imt's version, for now >:D.who knows what the future holds.happy mugening ;D
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: O Ilusionista on May 05, 2009, 07:26:23 pm
Quote
all in all im waiting for a decent flash. its ironic, my favorite dc charcter and NO ONE has created a good completed version of him yet, its like im not supposed to be happy, story of my life. why do fate and destiny insist on mocking me, its not fair dammit

ahhhh....give me a break!

Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: DNZRX768 on May 05, 2009, 08:50:04 pm
What is the MUGEN Fighters Guild policy about code stealing?

And did the person actually gave credit or not?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: kpt25 on May 05, 2009, 10:36:12 pm
Guild's policies state that nobody gives a damn about anything anymore.
If indeed this has stolen code/sprites from other characters,why don't i see the original creators of said codes/sprites complaining about it? (Barring JasonTodd for the use of the sprites he made for IMT Batman)
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: alucard1610 on May 07, 2009, 08:32:26 am
That was Unlimited Forums, which as far as I know is a totally separate entity.
yes, they are half of their stuff have been stolen to do this batman:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.png (http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.png)
the character has some moves and coding from IMT batman, and the one by spiderbat.
Magus is the one that gave the sprites to alucard telling him they were "clean" so he is the one to blame.

   
How you can say such stupid things without any evidence of it? I do not need to use code or sprites of any person, not all people are like you.
First the ANC and Pyche accusations with fabricated evidence and now you accuse me of this, this is over. I'm tired of this kind of stupid and envious people.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: la;MISS~FairY-! on May 07, 2009, 08:48:55 am
How you can say such stupid things without any evidence of it? I do not need to use code or sprites of any person, not all people are like you.
First the ANC and Pyche accusations with fabricated evidence and now you accuse me of this, this is over. I'm tired of this kind of stupid and envious people.
Why abandon what could be a nice Batman if it's just lies, then?

I'll never understand mugen drama, I suppose. =/
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: SethZankuten on May 07, 2009, 09:05:41 am
  The post never said Alucard stole any code or sprites. The post simply stated that there was Drama going on and it would be handled in private....Everyone blew up and took at as an attack on themselves and acted like a bunch of children. I should know I was the one that locked the topic and posted the message stating why. If you must know what the case was about is that Alucard's batman had get hit sprites in it that match the get hit sprites of the Unlimited Teams PrivateBbatman. The sprites in question have scratch made parts on them (I.E. the cape) And the sprites lined up identical besides a few things on the mask (Which was not part of the sprites in question). Who had taken them from who was what the drama was about....it had nothing to do with Stolen anything but who had the writes to which sprites because some Team Members Swapped Teams during the development of both Batmen.

  Its not fair to either batman (Unless Discussed between both teams) for something like this to happen. It will make both of them look bad. It was simple to let the two Teams that this was going on and they should talk to each other. Magus and Alucard automaticly assumed the drama was blaming them for stolen sprites, as Magus already had Drama with Troy (one of the Unlimited Team batman Spriters) and Alucard also had drama with Troy in which Alucard was caught from stealing his flash sprites in the past, even though I was the one posting the topic just stating there was drama and it needed to be solved in private. Everything got blown out of proportion when it was ment to be a civil council..... End of Story.

@ Alucard
Nothing was fabricated I'm a member at their forum, and before you posted your batman they wanted to donated their sprites to your Batman and The DC vs Marvel Project. Buyog, Magus, Troy, Wing and I all had a long conversation over this... If you personally want to know the Details on that topic you can contact me Via Email. And Maybe I can get this thing settled in a Civil manner instead of everyone being at each others throats.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: REDBACKDEATH on May 07, 2009, 09:18:48 am
Why were mine and others posts deleted from this thread?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: MugenplayerX on May 07, 2009, 09:20:25 am
Why were mine and others posts deleted from this thread?

They aren't deleted, They are moved to Mugen Discussion.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: REDBACKDEATH on May 07, 2009, 09:33:20 am
Why were mine and others posts deleted from this thread?

They aren't deleted, They are moved to Mugen Discussion.

Thanks for the heads up.
And dont quit alucard it's not worth it.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: alucard1610 on May 07, 2009, 07:29:28 pm
That was Unlimited Forums, which as far as I know is a totally separate entity.
yes, they are half of their stuff have been stolen to do this batman:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.png (http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.png)
the character has some moves and coding from IMT batman, and the one by spiderbat.
Magus is the one that gave the sprites to alucard telling him they were "clean" so he is the one to blame.

   
How you can say such stupid things without any evidence of it? I do not need to use code or sprites of any person, not all people are like you.
First the ANC and Pyche accusations with fabricated evidence and now you accuse me of this, this is over. I'm tired of this kind of stupid and envious people.


Just try to imagine you spend nights and nights of your life for several months, trying to make a unique character. (because you can only work at night in mugen). Then you think with the character its ready to share with the public and you released.
And many envious people defame you making false evidence and saying that the job is theirs. Without having a firm foundation of what they say. Suddenly appear more envious people like jason todd who invent more lies and all that work you did is going to the crap.


Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: SethZankuten on May 07, 2009, 07:52:38 pm
That was Unlimited Forums, which as far as I know is a totally separate entity.
yes, they are half of their stuff have been stolen to do this batman:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.png (http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.png)
the character has some moves and coding from IMT batman, and the one by spiderbat.
Magus is the one that gave the sprites to alucard telling him they were "clean" so he is the one to blame.

   
How you can say such stupid things without any evidence of it? I do not need to use code or sprites of any person, not all people are like you.
First the ANC and Pyche accusations with fabricated evidence and now you accuse me of this, this is over. I'm tired of this kind of stupid and envious people.


Just try to imagine you spend nights and nights of your life for several months, trying to make a unique character. (because you can only work at night in mugen). Then you think with the character its ready to share with the public and you released.
And many envious people defame you making false evidence and saying that the job is theirs. Without having a firm foundation of what they say. Suddenly appear more envious people like jason todd who invent more lies and all that work you did is going to the crap.

 Quit judging people, They feel exactly the same way you do. They feel that you defamed them....they work hard on their character just the same as you. They are ready to share theirs with the world too and a few days before they can release their character someone else releases a batman almost identical and some ways identical to their work. How would that make you feel? Now they were afraid to release their batman because they are afraid everyone will accuse them of stealing yours. They are in the same boat you are and I've tried for the past few months to stop this from happening.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 07, 2009, 07:55:24 pm
I've tried for the past few months to stop this from happening.

how did you try and how did you know this situation was gonna happen?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: PotS on May 07, 2009, 07:56:59 pm
how did you tried and how did you knew
Walt bait.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 07, 2009, 07:59:45 pm
nice sig, polnareff trying to code teh mugens by adding hats to other's characters?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: alucard1610 on May 07, 2009, 08:12:59 pm
That was Unlimited Forums, which as far as I know is a totally separate entity.
yes, they are half of their stuff have been stolen to do this batman:
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.png (http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/8232/bvb.png)
the character has some moves and coding from IMT batman, and the one by spiderbat.
Magus is the one that gave the sprites to alucard telling him they were "clean" so he is the one to blame.

   
How you can say such stupid things without any evidence of it? I do not need to use code or sprites of any person, not all people are like you.
First the ANC and Pyche accusations with fabricated evidence and now you accuse me of this, this is over. I'm tired of this kind of stupid and envious people.


Just try to imagine you spend nights and nights of your life for several months, trying to make a unique character. (because you can only work at night in mugen). Then you think with the character its ready to share with the public and you released.
And many envious people defame you making false evidence and saying that the job is theirs. Without having a firm foundation of what they say. Suddenly appear more envious people like jason todd who invent more lies and all that work you did is going to the crap.

 Quit judging people, They feel exactly the same way you do. They feel that you defamed them....they work hard on their character just the same as you. They are ready to share theirs with the world too and a few days before they can release their character someone else releases a batman almost identical and some ways identical to their work. How would that make you feel? Now they were afraid to release their batman because they are afraid everyone will accuse them of stealing yours. They are in the same boat you are and I've tried for the past few months to stop this from happening.

You just try to make more excuses and defend them, actually someone told me when they knew of my release. They in desperate way offered their sprites to scruffydragon and one apology but were not accepted and created all this about theft just for envy.

Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: SethZankuten on May 07, 2009, 08:14:11 pm
I've tried for the past few months to stop this from happening.

how did you try and how did you know this situation was gonna happen?

 I've sent that information to Alucard. How did I know this was gonna happen....when Alucard's batman first showed up on Youtube videos Unlimited teams swore it was their batman.....and in fact it looked very very close. I had a beta of Alucards batman and Showed them Sprite by Sprite Unlimited vs Alucards....They were different side bside. Different Heights, Width, Detail, and Even Capes. I then suggested that they talk with Alucard because they had such similar styles and had a very similar view on Batman, that should promote working together. The Unlimited team were happy to do so (they would even do so uncredited if Magus and Alucard agreed to the offer). Why this didn't go down, is a private matter between a few select people. After a few weeks The Unlimited team figured it was a solid no and begun to finish their Batman so that they could have another solid release after Deadpool.

 After the Release of Alucard's Batman....they were in awe of how close some of the sprites were too their Early work on their batman (non of their new stuff). Some of the sprites were actually crossed over from one sprite artist that worked on both Batman characters, that had been edited different ways. Others are unexplained on how either team had the capes and other aspects match perfectly. This drama was going to all be kept secret so that no one looked bad and everyone came out on top...but now that everyone has exploded I might as well show how trivial everyone is being.

@ Alucard

They knew about your batman after you had him posted on Youtube.....because everyone saw that video.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: John_Cena on May 07, 2009, 08:31:39 pm
Hey yo.. SethZankuten

So seth you and alucard on the same team, stop defending people of other teams and learn to stand in behalf of yours
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 07, 2009, 09:01:22 pm
and you are?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: gokudo99 on May 07, 2009, 11:28:44 pm
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all in all im waiting for a decent flash. its ironic, my favorite dc charcter and NO ONE has created a good completed version of him yet, its like im not supposed to be happy, story of my life. why do fate and destiny insist on mocking me, its not fair dammit

ahhhh....give me a break!


you do know i was joking right?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: GT on May 07, 2009, 11:33:24 pm
Hey yo.. SethZankuten

So seth you and alucard on the same team, stop defending people of other teams and learn to stand in behalf of yours

Seth Doesn't Have To Choose. Maybe He Sees Major Points For Both Opposing Sides...  --;
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: tunglashor on May 08, 2009, 01:57:51 am
This drama was going to all be kept secret so that no one looked bad and everyone came out on top...but now that everyone has exploded I might as well show how trivial everyone is being.

This is the bit I don't get - surely it was a secret until you posted the big "Objection!" image... at which point the explosions started.  Why do that, rather than continue trying to sort things out behind the scenes?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: John_Cena on May 08, 2009, 02:36:22 am
and you are?
I am john cena and I will beat the big show the next sunday on judgement day
buy the payperview
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: atomicbuster on May 08, 2009, 04:48:44 am
I am john cena and I will beat the big show the next sunday on judgement day
buy the payperview
And you are the reason I completely stopped watching wrestling about 5 years ago.

I like this char. I could care less about the circumstances surrounding his source material.
Best Batman for mugen right now, so thanks.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: John_Cena on May 08, 2009, 04:51:39 am
I am john cena and I will beat the big show the next sunday on judgement day
buy the payperview
And you are the reason I completely stopped watching wrestling about 5 years ago.

I like this char. I could care less about the circumstances surrounding his source material.
Best Batman for mugen right now, so thanks.

Dont pay the payperview , and go and watch , cartoons or porn.. or hentai..
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 08, 2009, 05:38:23 am
What
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: O Ilusionista on May 08, 2009, 04:25:36 pm
I think that is enough of drama, right?  lets focus on the char.

Repply to KFM statement:

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I mean really, you people thought this thing was GOOD? Wow, low standards guys, low standards.

I never told that this char is AMAZING, I told that is BETTER than other Batmans out there. And it is, you have to agree with that.

Sure, there are tons of errors (I'm making a review to show him),  somethings that doesn't make sense (like all the batmovel stuff to shoot a missile) but there are some very nice things, like the cool SGS-like move (at least, its differerent of the others out there).

So, this char HAS a potential, for sure. The way the ideas were excuted aren't too good, but its just a matter of fact to help the creator, showing stuff to make him improve, fixing the bugs, etc. I saw a lot of good chars ruined not by the creators itselves, but by WHO surrounded they. Feedbacks like "OMFG ITS RULEZ" doesn't helps, at all. Neither the "THIS SUCKS HARD" ones.

This is WAY better than simply come here, start a drama, blaming the creator....or I'm wrong?

Think about it guys.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: A New Challenger on May 08, 2009, 05:48:02 pm
Seth posted what he did not to 'go against his team' - but to help them save face. They were endorsing, front page, the release of a character that he himself knew contained stolen or otherwise lifted material.

I'm sorry if I missed something, but I learned from Scruffy themselves that stealing is mugen's biggest no-no. We lost Gotham Knights to it, lost Symbiote Spidey to it, and almost lost Ghost Rider to it. It'd be a tad hypocritical of them to say 'Yeah, we needed a Batman though, it's cool this time.' Seth realized this, and posted what he did. How, exactly, is that acting against his team's best interests?

Alucard, pal of mine... listen up:

You just try to make more excuses and defend them, actually someone told me when they knew of my release. They in desperate way offered their sprites to scruffydragon and one apology but were not accepted and created all this about theft just for envy.

We saw your Batman in the April Fool's teaser video. We weren't threatened, nor impressed. We were a bit miffed at the passing similarity, but it wasn't anything to start up about.

We were later approached separately by certain members of SD who informed us that YOU were being a drama queen and threatening to pull your Batman from Scruffyversary. We were asked if we might polish ours off to fill the void if need be, and those negotiations began. That's from where the apology sprung - because I had old, old, old bad blood with one of SD, and that's frankly very much not your business. Anyway, later you apparently made good with the person you had drama with - who I'll be kind not to name - and we were told that our assistance wouldn't be needed. Que sera, sera.

When your character actually dropped, we went into a bit of an uproar back in our little corner. It turned out that we hadn't been paranoid, and that much of the spriting within was at some point derived from our work. Seth thought that it might reflect poorly on Scruffy since they'd trusted you... so here we are.

You're free to deny it, we're not asking for anything of you. Nobody called for your head on a pike, nobody asked you to quit. We didn't send hate mail, post about it ourselves, or DDoS your site. Even if we were to act the peanut gallery, everyone loves your character and nobody would care. So we're not going to bother. The only one inviting drama is you.

Although I will offer one bit of advice... When you storm off and go 'OH MY GOD I'M QUITTING FOREVER!' you're not supposed to continue posting for days afterwards. Kinda dampens the whole 'martyr for noble theft' effect.

I've said my peace. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a set of basics to remake for Bruce. Oddly, ours just don't look original anymore. Have a happy little life, friend.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: alucard1610 on May 08, 2009, 08:15:50 pm
Seth posted what he did not to 'go against his team' - but to help them save face. They were endorsing, front page, the release of a character that he himself knew contained stolen or otherwise lifted material.

I'm sorry if I missed something, but I learned from Scruffy themselves that stealing is mugen's biggest no-no. We lost Gotham Knights to it, lost Symbiote Spidey to it, and almost lost Ghost Rider to it. It'd be a tad hypocritical of them to say 'Yeah, we needed a Batman though, it's cool this time.' Seth realized this, and posted what he did. How, exactly, is that acting against his team's best interests?

Alucard, pal of mine... listen up:

You just try to make more excuses and defend them, actually someone told me when they knew of my release. They in desperate way offered their sprites to scruffydragon and one apology but were not accepted and created all this about theft just for envy.

We saw your Batman in the April Fool's teaser video. We weren't threatened, nor impressed. We were a bit miffed at the passing similarity, but it wasn't anything to start up about.

We were later approached separately by certain members of SD who informed us that YOU were being a drama queen and threatening to pull your Batman from Scruffyversary. We were asked if we might polish ours off to fill the void if need be, and those negotiations began. That's from where the apology sprung - because I had old, old, old bad blood with one of SD, and that's frankly very much not your business. Anyway, later you apparently made good with the person you had drama with - who I'll be kind not to name - and we were told that our assistance wouldn't be needed. Que sera, sera.

When your character actually dropped, we went into a bit of an uproar back in our little corner. It turned out that we hadn't been paranoid, and that much of the spriting within was at some point derived from our work. Seth thought that it might reflect poorly on Scruffy since they'd trusted you... so here we are.

You're free to deny it, we're not asking for anything of you. Nobody called for your head on a pike, nobody asked you to quit. We didn't send hate mail, post about it ourselves, or DDoS your site. Even if we were to act the peanut gallery, everyone loves your character and nobody would care. So we're not going to bother. The only one inviting drama is you.

Although I will offer one bit of advice... When you storm off and go 'OH MY GOD I'M QUITTING FOREVER!' you're not supposed to continue posting for days afterwards. Kinda dampens the whole 'martyr for noble theft' effect.

I've said my peace. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a set of basics to remake for Bruce. Oddly, ours just don't look original anymore. Have a happy little life, friend.

Look man you dont need to talk in riddles, it only shows that your personal grudge against me and magus is evident and you dont have any proofs to stand behind this corny words, have a nice life too dude
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 08, 2009, 08:17:06 pm
Alucard, he's not showing any bad blood in those posts. He's stating you're taking the wrong path.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: la;MISS~FairY-! on May 08, 2009, 08:24:13 pm
s char HAS a potential, for sure. The way the ideas were excuted aren't too good, but its just a matter of fact to help the creator, showing stuff to make him improve, fixing the bugs, etc.[/b] I saw a lot of good chars ruined not by the creators itselves, but by WHO surrounded they. Feedbacks like "OMFG ITS RULEZ" doesn't helps, at all. Neither the "THIS SUCKS HARD" ones.
Honestly the character has no potential since Alucard is a terrible creator. (The ideas, and some of the sprites have potential, though. But not the actual creation)

His Thanos and Storm both had fatal errors and a bunch of pretty bad glitches. And Thanos was also pretty misaligned. And neither one ever got fixed. In part probably due to the fact feedback on SD is pretty much non existent. But I do know I've seen threads where he got informed of some of the problems, none of which ever got fixed. Although I did see some melodramatic bullshit on his site and making his project private due to some other drama he was mixed up in over another one of these shitty characters.

The only way this Batman could ever amount to anything at all is if a good creator had the decency to steal the damn thing and edit it into something presentable.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Scruffydragon on May 08, 2009, 08:26:58 pm
ANC, your posts stink to fear, defend ourselves is not being a drama queen, you are the one whining about paletes, frankensprites and names of special moves, you can post with all the hipocrecy you want, making look yourself as a victim is not helping, because nobody is buying it, and those who do, well we cant help they can believe what they want, you showed your true colors while ago over infinity, when half forum call you out, time gave me the reason about you when all saw you talking shit, and this time wont be diferent, you are a coward trying not to post my name but making clear references to it, honestly I did not expect
less from you.   :ninja:





Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 08, 2009, 08:32:22 pm
alright who the fuck are you guys and why dont you just name yourselves instead of talking under the names of your foruns?
Does the guild look like a challenge zone for any of you for some reason?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Scruffydragon on May 08, 2009, 08:37:43 pm
I am Magus administrator of Scruffydragon, I am the one that ANC refers in his riddles, I cant use my nick because I think it was cloned. There is another magus posting in on the 2ndpart  of this topic that it is not me. ::)

And it is not that we are challenging us each other, we are defending us, you as a moderator probably want to  moderate the guys that are attaking us without proofs, just a suggestion, if you dont want to, then allow us to defend ourselves...



Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: John_Cena on May 08, 2009, 08:53:58 pm
I am Magus administrator of Scruffydragon, I am the one that ANC refers in his riddles, I cant use my nick because I think it was cloned. There is another magus posting in on the 2ndpart  of this topic that it is not me. ::)

And it is not that we are challenging us each other, we are defending us, you as a moderator probably want to  moderate the guys that are attaking us without proofs, just a suggestion, if you dont want to, then allow us to defend ourselves...





You are a fucking Fake BITCH!!... magus never use that nick.. fucking assole
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 08, 2009, 08:58:13 pm
who the hell are you?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 08, 2009, 08:59:24 pm
He claims to be the actual John Cena.

Though the real one I bet doesn't even know what Mugenguild is. :S

EDIT: Exactly my point @ below post
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: John_Cena on May 08, 2009, 08:59:46 pm
who the hell are you?
Im John Cena!!!
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: MugenplayerX on May 08, 2009, 09:00:54 pm
I'm Awesome!!1 :buttrox:
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Orochi Gill on May 08, 2009, 09:01:24 pm
I'm wondering what the shit is going on with this thread!
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Liquid Jake on May 08, 2009, 09:07:30 pm
This is exciting!

Go on, one of you, chew the other one out some more!
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 08, 2009, 09:08:22 pm
who the hell are you?
Im John Cena!!!

yeah now identify yourself before keeping up with trying to argue with anyone else on this thread or im sending undertaker to stab you in the nuts.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: tunglashor on May 08, 2009, 09:09:24 pm
Honestly the character has no potential since Alucard is a terrible creator. (The ideas, and some of the sprites have potential, though. But not the actual creation)

His Thanos and Storm both had fatal errors and a bunch of pretty bad glitches. And Thanos was also pretty misaligned. And neither one ever got fixed. In part probably due to the fact feedback on SD is pretty much non existent. But I do know I've seen threads where he got informed of some of the problems, none of which ever got fixed. Although I did see some melodramatic bullshit on his site and making his project private due to some other drama he was mixed up in over another one of these shitty characters.

The only way this Batman could ever amount to anything at all is if a good creator had the decency to steal the damn thing and edit it into something presentable.

Ah, the Kung Fu Man school of criticism.  Character has some (relatively easy to fix) problems = it's a worthless piece of shit.

Sorry, didn't mean to distract from the epicness of the thread by mentioning the character.  Continue!
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: John_Cena on May 08, 2009, 09:20:02 pm
who the hell are you?
Im John Cena!!!

yeah now identify yourself before keeping up with trying to argue with anyone else on this thread or im sending undertaker to stab you in the nuts.
The Undertaker is Old.. lol im scruffy
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: theendgamelv3 on May 08, 2009, 09:35:03 pm
We will never know the full truth, it is a he said/he said. One side will present "evidence" and the other side will proclaim it "false" or "photoshopped". Both Batmen seem similar and Seth even said the get hit sprites are the same. Someone isn't telling the truth and we will not know. Drop the issue, it is done, this Batman was released, well received and liked. Noone wants anyone to quit. I hope Unlimited doesn't decide not to release their Batman, the more the merrier.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: la;MISS~FairY-! on May 08, 2009, 09:42:19 pm
Honestly the character has no potential since Alucard is a terrible creator. (The ideas, and some of the sprites have potential, though. But not the actual creation)

His Thanos and Storm both had fatal errors and a bunch of pretty bad glitches. And Thanos was also pretty misaligned. And neither one ever got fixed. In part probably due to the fact feedback on SD is pretty much non existent. But I do know I've seen threads where he got informed of some of the problems, none of which ever got fixed. Although I did see some melodramatic bullshit on his site and making his project private due to some other drama he was mixed up in over another one of these shitty characters.

The only way this Batman could ever amount to anything at all is if a good creator had the decency to steal the damn thing and edit it into something presentable.

Ah, the Kung Fu Man school of criticism.  Character has some (relatively easy to fix) problems = it's a worthless piece of shit.

Sorry, didn't mean to distract from the epicness of the thread by mentioning the character.  Continue!
The issue is the bugs make the characters unable to play. Like storm causing opponent's to float off the screen or her floating off the screen during some of her airborn attacks. Thanos, too.

Storm and Thanos both came out in 08 and neither of them ever got fixed. So yeah, I think that speaks for itself.

And the creations were shitty because they just weren't any good. Not because of glitches. (Though that was a big part of it) Thanos was just a generic pile of junk mixed in with the usual overly flashy effects and shitty voice acting you come to expect with alot of these characters. And storm had a bunch of broken ass supers she never needed and her gameplay felt really spotty compared to MvC2. (I'd expect she'd play differently. But I also expect she'd still have the same quality of play, too. Which she didn't)
Then on top of all this both of the characters had bugs that made them unplayable at any given time. (Not to mention thanos' feet being in the background which isn't exactly pleasant to look at, either)

so yeah, the creations didn't suck because of a few glitches, they sucked because they were just like most of the half assed bullshit that comes out of these marvel projects.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: alucard1610 on May 08, 2009, 10:08:49 pm
Honestly the character has no potential since Alucard is a terrible creator. (The ideas, and some of the sprites have potential, though. But not the actual creation)

His Thanos and Storm both had fatal errors and a bunch of pretty bad glitches. And Thanos was also pretty misaligned. And neither one ever got fixed. In part probably due to the fact feedback on SD is pretty much non existent. But I do know I've seen threads where he got informed of some of the problems, none of which ever got fixed. Although I did see some melodramatic bullshit on his site and making his project private due to some other drama he was mixed up in over another one of these shitty characters.

The only way this Batman could ever amount to anything at all is if a good creator had the decency to steal the damn thing and edit it into something presentable.

Ah, the Kung Fu Man school of criticism.  Character has some (relatively easy to fix) problems = it's a worthless piece of shit.

Sorry, didn't mean to distract from the epicness of the thread by mentioning the character.  Continue!
The issue is the bugs make the characters unable to play. Like storm causing opponent's to float off the screen or her floating off the screen during some of her airborn attacks. Thanos, too.

Storm and Thanos both came out in 08 and neither of them ever got fixed. So yeah, I think that speaks for itself.

And the creations were shitty because they just weren't any good. Not because of glitches. (Though that was a big part of it) Thanos was just a generic pile of junk mixed in with the usual overly flashy effects and shitty voice acting you come to expect with alot of these characters. And storm had a bunch of broken ass supers she never needed and her gameplay felt really spotty compared to MvC2. (I'd expect she'd play differently. But I also expect she'd still have the same quality of play, too. Which she didn't)
Then on top of all this both of the characters had bugs that made them unplayable at any given time. (Not to mention thanos' feet being in the background which isn't exactly pleasant to look at, either)

so yeah, the creations didn't suck because of a few glitches, they sucked because they were just like most of the half assed bullshit that comes out of these marvel projects.

Thanos and Storm are betas only.
OMFG!!!, it has missaligned sprites, damn and that is imposible to fix, what do I do?
If you dont like it delete it, invest your time in something better than criticize. You can get a boyfriend or a life. Its just as a suggestion.  ;)
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: XamΣeta on May 08, 2009, 10:29:05 pm
I respect every single one of you guys in this community, from the top Creators, to the Aspiring ones, to the Fans and Noobs...but damn, in all honesty, everybody should lay the fuck off each other's back already.

This thread keeps coming up in the Releases page and each new post is about guess what...more drama.

I've seen it happen time and time again in Mugen and honestly people...nobody cares about your bitchin' over a few stolen sprites or code. I mean, if you really want to keep on arguing about it, then by all means...but what the hell do you think that will lead up to...MORE POINTLESS ARGUEMENT OVER THE SAME OLD SHIT. The damage has already been done...so GET WITH IT, AND MOVE ON.

If you guys want to antagonize each other with weak-ass words like "Your characters Suck"...use Personal Messages...Why? Because you're making it Personal  ;). And also...just because you know how to give GOOD FEEDBACK does NOT give you the right to declare an OH-SO-RIGHTGEOUS SHIT-FEST upon the creator because they messed up a few clsn's and missaligned some sprites...instead, provide what you can to FIX IT!!!! Mugen does come with learn-it-yourself documentation but it is horrid and non-user friendly in many ways...so not everybody gets it. Be a fucking Straight Up Contributor and Help out so we can all benefit from the improvements and updates later on.

So please, everyone...do yourselves a favor, pat yourselves in the back and contribute ideas to the improvement of this and other characters by providing the much needed FEEDBACK...and for the love of Pete...FUCK THE DRAMA ALREADY!!!

Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: tunglashor on May 08, 2009, 11:03:46 pm
Spoilsport  :(
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Nucka on May 08, 2009, 11:06:04 pm
yeah now identify yourself before keeping up with trying to argue with anyone else on this thread or im sending undertaker to stab you in the nuts.
Now you sound stupid.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: la;MISS~FairY-! on May 09, 2009, 12:03:00 am
Thanos and Storm are betas only.
OMFG!!!, it has missaligned sprites, damn and that is imposible to fix, what do I do?
If you dont like it delete it, invest your time in something better than criticize. You can get a boyfriend or a life. Its just as a suggestion.  ;)
The point was they had such glaring bugs for such a long time and they never got fixed. Not that it was so unbelievable they had bugs. Yeah, most creations DO have bugs. But when they're made by good authors (unlike you) they actually get fixed.
And if the alignment was so easy to fix, then why didn't you? Oh wait, you were trying to sound clever. If only it had succeeded. Oops!

Oh, and luckily I have both. Maybe you could take your own advice? I mean, maybe if you at least saw a pussy in person your damn balls would drop so you could try and learn how to be enough of a man to respond to the criticism of your characters without having to add personal and juvenile bullshit in an attempt to mask the fact your creations apparently suck so damn bad you can't even defend them. And maybe you'd be able to get your own Batman sprites rather than having to steal other people's work to make another shitty character.

Just go back to being Magus and Buyong's fluffer and let the intelligent people post in this thread undisturbed by your nonsense.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Alkanphel on May 09, 2009, 12:49:47 am
Honestly the character has no potential since Alucard is a terrible creator. (The ideas, and some of the sprites have potential, though. But not the actual creation)

His Thanos and Storm both had fatal errors and a bunch of pretty bad glitches. And Thanos was also pretty misaligned. And neither one ever got fixed. In part probably due to the fact feedback on SD is pretty much non existent. But I do know I've seen threads where he got informed of some of the problems, none of which ever got fixed. Although I did see some melodramatic bullshit on his site and making his project private due to some other drama he was mixed up in over another one of these shitty characters.

The only way this Batman could ever amount to anything at all is if a good creator had the decency to steal the damn thing and edit it into something presentable.

Ah, the Kung Fu Man school of criticism.  Character has some (relatively easy to fix) problems = it's a worthless piece of shit.

Sorry, didn't mean to distract from the epicness of the thread by mentioning the character.  Continue!
The issue is the bugs make the characters unable to play. Like storm causing opponent's to float off the screen or her floating off the screen during some of her airborn attacks. Thanos, too.

Storm and Thanos both came out in 08 and neither of them ever got fixed. So yeah, I think that speaks for itself.

And the creations were shitty because they just weren't any good. Not because of glitches. (Though that was a big part of it) Thanos was just a generic pile of junk mixed in with the usual overly flashy effects and shitty voice acting you come to expect with alot of these characters. And storm had a bunch of broken ass supers she never needed and her gameplay felt really spotty compared to MvC2. (I'd expect she'd play differently. But I also expect she'd still have the same quality of play, too. Which she didn't)
Then on top of all this both of the characters had bugs that made them unplayable at any given time. (Not to mention thanos' feet being in the background which isn't exactly pleasant to look at, either)

so yeah, the creations didn't suck because of a few glitches, they sucked because they were just like most of the half assed bullshit that comes out of these marvel projects.

Thanos and Storm are betas only.
OMFG!!!, it has missaligned sprites, damn and that is imposible to fix, what do I do?
If you dont like it delete it, invest your time in something better than criticize. You can get a boyfriend or a life. Its just as a suggestion.  ;)


Still betas after all this time?  Maybe if you and your pals at SuckyLizard actually fully finished and focused on characters before releasing instead of constantly churning out buggy halfassed garbage with shitty looking sprites that don't even match each other(Etrigan looks better than half the other characters for fuck sakes, since his sprites look more like Warzard than freakin MvC), maybe just maybe you'd have less characters released but actual QUALITY, something you obviously know nothing about. 

Plus wtf kind of shit excuse is that?  So let me get this straight, these are so called "minor" problems that are easy to fix, yet YOU couldn't fix them after all this time?  Maybe these problems aren't so minor, and maybe, just maybe your sorry ass just isn't good enough to actually fix them, so instead you just churn out more characters hoping so many will go OMFG nice marvel char dl now that no one will care that everything you release is buggy as shit and unplayable?  is this the real reason why you cause all this drama with this "Boohoo people made me feel bad, I'm gonna quit mugen fuck you guys" garbage?  Because if you don't quit mugen and still can't fix these characters, it would prove what we all know.  The fact that you just plain suck.

Oh and real classy of you to attack my friend with a retarded personal remark after she simply gave an honest critique of your characters.  Not her fault you're a butthurt crybaby who gets all mad and throws a fit like a goddamned 2 year old anytime someone criticizes your shit, or gets all mad threatening to "quit moojen forever fuck you alll waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah".  I would have left this thread alone, but after seeing the fact that you insulted my friend as well as stole sprites that took time and effort(I'm lax with the whole stealing stuff, but stealing sprites someone else made and put hard work into and were using for their own damn char release then using it for your own shit then acting like a damn drama queen is the height of pitiful), I figured the least you deserved was to get told the hell off. 

PS, your fucking forums are broken and don't even work, you can't even register.  Bad enough your characters are unplayable garbage, but even your own forums are broken too?  Goddamn.   
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Scruffydragon on May 09, 2009, 02:05:21 am
Thanos and Storm are betas only.
OMFG!!!, it has missaligned sprites, damn and that is imposible to fix, what do I do?
If you dont like it delete it, invest your time in something better than criticize. You can get a boyfriend or a life. Its just as a suggestion.  ;)
The point was they had such glaring bugs for such a long time and they never got fixed. Not that it was so unbelievable they had bugs. Yeah, most creations DO have bugs. But when they're made by good authors (unlike you) they actually get fixed.
And if the alignment was so easy to fix, then why didn't you? Oh wait, you were trying to sound clever. If only it had succeeded. Oops!

Oh, and luckily I have both. Maybe you could take your own advice? I mean, maybe if you at least saw a pussy in person your damn balls would drop so you could try and learn how to be enough of a man to respond to the criticism of your characters without having to add personal and juvenile bullshit in an attempt to mask the fact your creations apparently suck so damn bad you can't even defend them. And maybe you'd be able to get your own Batman sprites rather than having to steal other people's work to make another shitty character.

Just go back to being Magus and Buyong's fluffer and let the intelligent people post in this thread undisturbed by your nonsense.

Woow, just wow,  I guess alucard is to dumb for talk to you, can I take this dance?

Ok "queen", I get your anger obviusly a bad character is reason for be bitching around, now,  because you posted a bug, it doesnt mean that 10 minutes later we have to upload a patch to please you, it was noticed? yeah thank you for pointing it, it will be fixed? yeah in time, nobody said that we won't, it will be uploaded? if we feel to, we can upload it in an hour or a year later or maybe never, why? because you dont boss us, you never know if we are saving the updated version for something or we dont have the time to fix it even when is so easy to do it, also I dont see somebody giving awards or monetary founding for the release of the perfect character.

The alignment stuff, it was an example, nothing what you posted as feedback is imposible to fix to declare the character bad, if it bugs you a lot, delete it, or since already was stated that it is easy to fix, make yourself crazy and do it yourself, or what? dont you have hands and brain for do it?. hard to believe the way you talk and claim that you are so smart you must be a demon in the bed, eerhm ejem, I mean  for mugen code ...  ::)

And the way on how it was replied is a natural reaction on the way on how you pointed the mistakes or coding errors, you are free to post whatever way you want, if you enjoy being a bitch when you point bugs, knock yourself out, but then you will be treated like one, is simple, after all, internet is great place to relieve the presures of work, school... being beated out by your boyfriend? daddy?...., right?  ooh man!!! I am asshole, woow, me rox!!  :sugoi: :sugoi: :sugoi:

@Alkanphel  thanks for your support   ;D , the forum  thing that you mention in reality is magical php code that it was installed, it detects freaks like you and dont let them register.  :'(

I am out of here... you want some more Princess, come to SD,  Alkanphel Ill invite you too but, obviusly you cant the forum code thing you know, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: la;MISS~FairY-! on May 09, 2009, 02:24:29 am
Woow, just wow,  I guess alucard is to dumb for talk to you, can I take this dance?

Ok "queen", I get your anger obviusly a bad character is reason for be bitching around, now,  because you posted a bug, it doesnt mean that 10 minutes later we have to upload a patch to please you, it was noticed? yeah thank you for pointing it, it will be fixed? yeah in time, nobody said that we won't, it will be uploaded? if we feel to, we can upload it in an hour or a year later or maybe never, why? because you dont boss us, you never know if we are saving the updated version for something or we dont have the time to fix it even when is so easy to do it, also I dont see somebody giving awards or monetary founding for the release of the perfect character.

The alignment stuff, it was an example, nothing what you posted as feedback is imposible to fix to declare the character bad, if it bugs you a lot, delete it, or since already was stated that it is easy to fix, make yourself crazy and do it yourself, or what? dont you have hands and brain for do it?. hard to believe the way you talk and claim that you are so smart you must be a demon in the bed, eerhm ejem, I mean  for mugen code ...  ::)

And the way on how it was replied is a natural reaction on the way on how you pointed the mistakes or coding errors, you are free to post whatever way you want, if you enjoy being a bitch when you point bugs, knock yourself out, but then you will be treated like one, is simple, after all, internet is great place to relieve the presures of work, school... being beated out by your boyfriend? daddy?...., right?  ooh man!!! I am asshole, woow, me rox!!  :sugoi: :sugoi: :sugoi:

@Alkanphel  thanks for your support   ;D , the forum  thing that you mention in reality is magical php code that it was installed, it detects freaks like you and dont let them register.  :'(

I am out of here... you want some more Princess, come to SD,  Alkanphel Ill invite you too but, obviusly you cant the forum code thing you know, sorry about that.
Frankly, I don't care if you ever update the character or not. The point was in their current condition the creations are pretty much garbage. You possibly being able to fix them eventually doesn't make them any less junky right now. So I really have no idea what you hoped to accomplish with that. Although judging by your grammar I'd say english isn't your first language so you probably couldn't follow what I was saying.

Yes, and the attitude of "I'll make pieces of shit if I want to and if you don't like it delete it" Is exactly why most marvel characters suck. If the creations were actually good I probably would fix it myself. But they aren't, and I already made a Thanos/have a Storm so what motivation would I have to clean up another author's mess, exactly?

Get a grasp on the English language or gtfo. Unless you enjoy making yourself look like a complete and utter retard by bringing up someone's sex life over a mugen character.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Shamrock on May 09, 2009, 02:32:33 am
Why don't both of you shut up.

I know that we have the ability to give feedback without bashing another creator.

And leave personal shit alone.

It's simple, feedback is for help, not to make yourself look better than another person.

Now, quit the insults or us mods will have to get involved.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: O Ilusionista on May 09, 2009, 02:34:33 am
Quote
Honestly the character has no potential since Alucard is a terrible creator. (The ideas, and some of the sprites have potential, though. But not the actual creation)

I have to disagree. Maybe I'm getting old (besides, I never missed one shot), but I see some potential there. Saddly, people DOESNT understand that this thread was make to talk about THE CHAR, not:

if its stolen,
if the creator is bad,
if I'm fat (hahaha),
If someone is on the readme,
if 2+2 = 4.
if Jason Bohan is dead
if Raul Seixas is dead (hehe)
if ....
if ...

Geez! Come on guys! If you wanna talk about or to bash someone about this char, go to THIS thread: http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=98119.0

Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: la;MISS~FairY-! on May 09, 2009, 02:41:05 am
Why don't both of you shut up.

I know that we have the ability to give feedback with out bashing another creator.

And leave personal shit alone.

It's simple feedback it for help, not to make yourself look better than another person.

Now, quit the insults or us mods will have to get involved.
I'd be happy to. I didn't post here planning to have my sex life and shit brought up.

I really wish people knew by now that "terrible creator" Doesn't translate to some personal stuff. Unless people are building their identity from mugen? =S

Anywho, I'm out. Love at everyone! --huggs--
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Alkanphel on May 09, 2009, 02:42:17 am
Thanos and Storm are betas only.
OMFG!!!, it has missaligned sprites, damn and that is imposible to fix, what do I do?
If you dont like it delete it, invest your time in something better than criticize. You can get a boyfriend or a life. Its just as a suggestion.  ;)
The point was they had such glaring bugs for such a long time and they never got fixed. Not that it was so unbelievable they had bugs. Yeah, most creations DO have bugs. But when they're made by good authors (unlike you) they actually get fixed.
And if the alignment was so easy to fix, then why didn't you? Oh wait, you were trying to sound clever. If only it had succeeded. Oops!

Oh, and luckily I have both. Maybe you could take your own advice? I mean, maybe if you at least saw a pussy in person your damn balls would drop so you could try and learn how to be enough of a man to respond to the criticism of your characters without having to add personal and juvenile bullshit in an attempt to mask the fact your creations apparently suck so damn bad you can't even defend them. And maybe you'd be able to get your own Batman sprites rather than having to steal other people's work to make another shitty character.

Just go back to being Magus and Buyong's fluffer and let the intelligent people post in this thread undisturbed by your nonsense.

Woow, just wow,  I guess alucard is to dumb for talk to you, can I take this dance?

Ok "queen", I get your anger obviusly a bad character is reason for be bitching around, now,  because you posted a bug, it doesnt mean that 10 minutes later we have to upload a patch to please you, it was noticed? yeah thank you for pointing it, it will be fixed? yeah in time, nobody said that we won't, it will be uploaded? if we feel to, we can upload it in an hour or a year later or maybe never, why? because you dont boss us, you never know if we are saving the updated version for something or we dont have the time to fix it even when is so easy to do it, also I dont see somebody giving awards or monetary founding for the release of the perfect character.

The alignment stuff, it was an example, nothing what you posted as feedback is imposible to fix to declare the character bad, if it bugs you a lot, delete it, or since already was stated that it is easy to fix, make yourself crazy and do it yourself, or what? dont you have hands and brain for do it?. hard to believe the way you talk and claim that you are so smart you must be a demon in the bed, eerhm ejem, I mean  for mugen code ...  ::)

And the way on how it was replied is a natural reaction on the way on how you pointed the mistakes or coding errors, you are free to post whatever way you want, if you enjoy being a bitch when you point bugs, knock yourself out, but then you will be treated like one, is simple, after all, internet is great place to relieve the presures of work, school... being beated out by your boyfriend? daddy?...., right?  ooh man!!! I am asshole, woow, me rox!!  :sugoi: :sugoi: :sugoi:

@Alkanphel  thanks for your support   ;D , the forum  thing that you mention in reality is magical php code that it was installed, it detects freaks like you and dont let them register.  :'(

I am out of here... you want some more Princess, come to SD,  Alkanphel Ill invite you too but, obviusly you cant the forum code thing you know, sorry about that.

Wow, so this is the best you can do?  Lame personal insults about sexual stuff and domestic abuse?  Why would you even bring that up, do you beat your gf?  And by girlfriend I mean penis, and by beat I mean masturbate, since I can't possibly imagine any female even wanting to fuck you after hearing you whine like a little bitch like you do here.  None of your insults change the fact that most of the characters on your site aren't worth downloading, and exemplify the typical garbage MvC characters that get churned out.  I swear seeing you constantly churn these things out is like having an infinite turd coming out of my ass, I don't know when it will be over with, but I sure hope it's soon.

These bugs and problems are shit that you people should have fixed, so don't pull that deflection bullshit here.  You're as bad as Kong, only difference is least he's not an obnoxious moron who acts like his shit doesn't stink.  You sound like a goddamn pussy, attacking a person who gave honest feedback by posting shit about sex stuff.  Maybe if you were a real man, you'd own up to the fact these characters have been laying around for all this time yet got no fixes, instead of making personal attacks on someone like a fucking pussy.  Frankly I'm glad I can't register to your shitty forum, I'd rather gargle with my own piss than post in a place where trash like you gets exalted and treated with kid gloves.  And I'd rather shove glass shards up my dick than use any of your garbage, broken, buggy, shoddily made characters, with poorly editted inconsistent sprites, flawed super jumping, bullshit damages, basic attacks that are barely thought out at all, and the excuse of "I fix it when I please, if you point out my flaws I'll attack you with sex insults".  Fucking dumbass.  Shouldn't you be busy stealing more sprites for your next shitacular "creation" instead of being here?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Alkanphel on May 09, 2009, 02:43:14 am
Why don't both of you shut up.

I know that we have the ability to give feedback without bashing another creator.

And leave personal shit alone.

It's simple, feedback is for help, not to make yourself look better than another person.

Now, quit the insults or us mods will have to get involved.

This coming from a mod that let arcoolguy post obvious troll threads including that fucking disaster in the projects section.  You're a fucking joke.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Shamrock on May 09, 2009, 02:45:45 am
Above user is banned for one week.

Terrible creator is unacceptable. Help the creator, not bash the creator. If he needs help, leave feedback to do so.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: O Ilusionista on May 09, 2009, 02:49:07 am
Quote
Help the creator, not bash the creator. If he needs help, leave feedback to do so.

I TOTTALY AGREE.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 09, 2009, 03:09:24 am
Magus and alucard are both banned for 3 days for insulting other users.
If you want to be rude, go do it somewhere else.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Cornholio on May 09, 2009, 03:14:04 am
thats it this thread is done.... professionally.

 :sugoi: couldn't help it.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: DoktorAvidan on May 09, 2009, 11:15:35 pm
This topic has turned into:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Asoult/GetThumbnailImageashx.jpg)
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: GT on May 10, 2009, 01:30:45 am
So True Sometimes...
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Lord Vader on May 10, 2009, 02:28:21 am
This topic has turned into:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Asoult/GetThumbnailImageashx.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v352/Asoult/GetThumbnailImageashx.jpg)

That's a cute dog. And I haven't read through the pages of bullshit. What's everyone so angry about?
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Iced on May 10, 2009, 02:32:20 am
apparently
1-guy releases batman
2-forum reveal that they think his batman has similarities with the one they were doing
2b-accusations of some sprites overlap!!SOME IDEAS R THE SAME
3-guy quits teh mugen
3b-somehow forum reveals that they knew the similarities ever since he announced his char
3c-they even say they dont care
...

somehow what we learnt from this was that all those foruns doing "SUpah proyects" cant coordinate with each other, that people get mad when others use similar skills or sprites that are from the same spriter, and that ilu is fat and according to.. IMT I think, that means his oppinion is not valid.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: DoktorAvidan on May 10, 2009, 02:50:58 am
Close, Iced.

It was Jason Todd who called O Ilu fat.

But y'know I agree that it's petty for great creators to start butting heads for no other reason than E-go.
Well that, and maybe the creators have creative differences.
But there are so few characters that that can be justified.

Batman for example has had 70+ years of comics and other media backing him up and developing him into what he is. There isn't much different people can do with him. Batarangs smoke bombs martial arts. Done.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: GT on May 10, 2009, 03:00:48 am
More Mugen Drama... Hooray...  :sleepy:
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Tiger-Boy on May 10, 2009, 03:20:05 am

I have to disagree. Maybe I'm getting old (besides, I never missed one shot), but I see some potential there. Saddly, people DOESNT understand that this thread was make to talk about THE CHAR, not:

if its stolen,
if the creator is bad,
if I'm fat (hahaha),
If someone is on the readme,
if 2+2 = 4.
if Jason Bohan is dead
if Raul Seixas is dead (hehe)
if ....
if ...


Jason Bohan is DEAD?!?
Raul Seixas is DEAD TOO?!?

(Honestly, I do not know who they are. I just wanted to add to the drama...   ;P )

But seriously, I have to agree with (o) Ilusionista. This char is VERY well made. Just look at the regular stand, and the variety of intros against many other chars, etc... You can see the dedication and the good work spent on this char. And alucard1610 mentioned that there is some stuff still to be made to be finished, so we are not looking @ the final work yet.

I, for one, can't wait for this char to be finished (specially the Batman with Kriptonite suit, so you can KICK Superman @$$, and the Batzarro mode). An EXCLUSIVE addition to my DC MUGEN CHAR!

Keep going alucard1610! You're in the right way!  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Nucka on May 10, 2009, 04:56:50 am
I think Batman looks great. The sprite comparisons in that picture are a little more than just similar, though.
But that's all besides the point.
Scruffy has made themselves look bad...actually Alucard and Magus. BTW, what the hell is a Magus? Is it short for magnetic mucus?

ma·gus
A: a member of a hereditary priestly class among the ancient Medes and Persians
B: often capitalized one of the traditionally three wise men from the East paying homage to the infant Jesus

They should have kept their mouths shut about it instead of coming in here and embarrassing themselves. Also, I think locking the topic, at Scruffy, opened the flood gates. No one was mentioning the "theft issue" over there.
There was a lot of talk about dealing with it privately but obviously it fell on deaf ears.
Also, Scruffy needs a PR person. Having someone who has a poor command of the english language, who also has the tendency to be hot-headed, makes the team look bad.

But that would be professional, and there's nothing professional about MUGEN.  :mellow:
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Draque on May 10, 2009, 07:34:41 am
Just a quick bit of feedback to the creator -

1. Your batman is very cool, about time someone turned out the dark knight for mugen

2. comparing batman to capt America he seems a bit too large don't you think? Batman trained himself in all methods of combat and is considered more agile than incredibly buff, though he does have considerable strength. It would be cool if he can be downsized just a little bit, making him a bit smaller than the capt America sprite. just a suggestion of course!
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Tiger-Boy on May 10, 2009, 07:57:56 am
It would be cool if he can be downsized just a little bit, making him a bit smaller than the capt America sprite. just a suggestion of course!

You can do that in the cns file...( I did  ;D )
Title: Brave & the Bold's MechBatmobile is awesome
Post by: S.D. on May 10, 2009, 03:35:44 pm
Nice Batman and sadly, way better than 90% of the stuff Scruffy Dragon releases.
Pretty darn creative intros and palettes too, some commands conflict between themselves and some tweaks are needed, but I've enjoyed playing with him.

Still betas after all this time?  Maybe if you and your pals at SuckyLizard actually fully finished and focused on characters before releasing instead of constantly churning out buggy halfassed garbage with shitty looking sprites that don't even match each other(Etrigan looks better than half the other characters for fuck sakes, since his sprites look more like Warzard than freakin MvC), maybe just maybe you'd have less characters released but actual QUALITY, something you obviously know nothing about. 
I couldn't agree more.
Sandman, Thor and Wonderwoman are great (Minor bugs aside) since McReady and Loganir focus on quality instead of quantity, Seth Zankuten's Spidey looks promising... The rest are plain awful.
Title: Re: Brave & the Bold's MechBatmobile is awesome
Post by: la;MISS~FairY-! on May 10, 2009, 08:11:45 pm
Nice Batman and sadly, way better than 90% of the stuff Scruffy Dragon releases.
Pretty darn creative intros and palettes too, some commands conflict between themselves and some tweaks are needed, but I've enjoyed playing with him.

I couldn't agree more.
Sandman, Thor and Wonderwoman are great (Minor bugs aside) since McReady and Loganir focus on quality instead of quantity, Seth Zankuten's Spidey looks promising... The rest are plain awful.
It makes me mad, too. Because some of their creations could actually be good, I think. But they're so busy churning out random junk nothing ever has it's problems fixed or gets improved. It's almost as though ever since Loganir left they just quit caring.
Although, with someone like Magus running the show not much can be expected, I suppose.

With all sarcasm and stuff completely excluded. The biggest problem they have over there is every creator they have except Seth Zankizuken (assuming he hasn't changed), HyperCombinationFinish and Loganir (who's now retired) have absolutely no idea how to accept feedback. They churn out another half assed beta and you have ten pages of people going "holy shit man +1", "This ROCKS", "Best char EVAH", "wow just what I wanted, downloading now!!1111" Rather than actual critique so nothing ever improves or evolves. Then when people from other forums (or even the occasional SD poster) actually give honest, harsh and real feedback it typically results in the author throwing some temper tantrum and threatening to make their creations private, or Magus going on yet another rant about some internet injustice involving his project and trying to intimidate the person giving the feedback. (Much like he tried and failed to do with me)
I mean, is it so hard to not base your ego around your damn characters but rather your ability to improve something and stick with it until it's completely awesome. And is it so hard to not be so sensitive and vain that seeing actual feedback is apparently, so upsetting that you shut down and won't even fix YOUR work?
The actual posters share that blame, too. Because most of them probably have no idea how MvC should even play, or basic standards you expect to be met with similar characters. Or even basic knowledge of what good sprite shading is. (Obviously, much of that comes down to an opinion but there's still some general standards, IMO) Of course, then again. With the way SD reacts to real feedback I probably wouldn't waste my time posting any over there, either.
Title: Re: Mvs DC BATMAN v1.0
Post by: Shamrock on May 10, 2009, 09:50:33 pm
Didn't I tell you to shut up?

The title of the thread is not, What's wrong with Scruffy Dragon. It's a release for Batman.

Don't worry, I'll save me the trouble of banning more people and just lock this horrid pile of garbage.