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Started by Iced, February 24, 2012, 09:43:26 pm
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1081  March 09, 2013, 12:02:08 am
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Doubt it. He used his other account a few days ago. Anal Arts Ryu or whatever.
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1082  March 20, 2013, 11:48:41 pm
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mbh said:
There's nothing in the rules about posting links to porn sites
the rules said:
Anything "hardcore" is obviously out of bounds.
i know you often play devil's advocate for the sake of playing devil's advocate, but come on

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1083  March 20, 2013, 11:53:09 pm
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I thought thats referring to images posted.

  I didnt see the links Duck posted, so I guess I shouldnt be commenting on it.  I'm sure not arguing that people should be allowed to post porn links all over. 
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1084  March 21, 2013, 12:23:46 am
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Porn really is off limits. We kinda accept nsfw which is straight nudity if tagged correctly. Genuine porn is a no-no.

Characters can bypass this slightly as we can't control the contents of a release so well.


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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1085  March 21, 2013, 12:45:52 am
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characters are relevant to mugen creation, even if they have porn, whereas a pure porn site is not; similar to how video game background music has been handled.
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1086  March 21, 2013, 12:48:50 am
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the idea that "I havent seen the links so I dont know" is pretty bogus too. its a porn site, you shouldnt be linking to a porn site from guild.
Its not "maybe if they do only vanilla porn it can be linked mid discussion about politics" .

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1087  March 21, 2013, 01:04:38 am
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As I explained, I thought that section of the rules was about images posted, not things linked to.  Now I know it isnt.

It is NOT bogus that I didn't see Duck's links.  I didn't see them, so I have no idea what they were.  If other staff say they were porn, then I believe they were porn.
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1088  March 21, 2013, 01:13:08 am
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Someone brought up the link expressly noting it was porn, and then you responded later on by saying you didn't see the porn, while accepting that there was a link. It totally sounds like you're doubting that said link was in fact porn.
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1089  March 21, 2013, 03:17:39 am
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As I explained, I thought that section of the rules was about images posted, not things linked to.
it should be obvious that it's for more than just images. why would a forum explicitly disallow hardcore images while hardcore links are ok. why
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1090  March 21, 2013, 03:34:45 am
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As I explained, I thought that section of the rules was about images posted, not things linked to.  Now I know it isnt.

It is NOT bogus that I didn't see Duck's links.  I didn't see them, so I have no idea what they were.  If other staff say they were porn, then I believe they were porn.
i wasnt talking about you not seeing them.
I was referring to you reacting to someone telling you that there was porn posted with "The rules dont disallow it" even if there wasnt a line in the rules referring to posting hardcore porn , would it be needed to be written down for it to be an staff interventing issue?
It really makes no difference that you didnt see them, you were posting on the assumption that they were there, you dont need to see a porn link to have a decision on either its okay or not to post it.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1091  March 21, 2013, 09:23:28 am
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I already admitted I was wrong, what do you guys want?  Blood?
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1092  March 21, 2013, 09:31:25 am
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Since you, we..everyone knows there are a ton of dumb people on this planet..in the internet and yeah..they make their way to MFG as well, GBK thought he has to add something to the convo.

So maybe it would be useful to update the rules thread and make it one big..easy to overview post instead of a thread with over 10 posts which add one or another rule or change something.

Write in clear words, make it obvious that linking to porn is not allowed.

Make it also clear that multiple accounts are not allowed if those are a problem

MFG is a wonderful organized place, you the staff are doing a good job, and i say that as someone who got banned 1 time as you know. Just the rules could be a bit clearer for the dummies maybe. Write up there whats important even if you believe its something obvious like not trolling, flaming, posting racist stuff or pretending to be someone else.
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1093  March 21, 2013, 09:44:59 am
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I guarantee if any one person read the rules in their current state, they would understand what is allowed and what isn't. People who want to break the rules or don't care about forum rules will break them regardless of how clear the rules are.
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1094  March 21, 2013, 02:22:18 pm
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when these kind of things happen it's because the rules aren't clear enough or because the culprit is a fucking idiot and in the case of duckss it's the latter. people that make alt accounts are still going to make alt accounts even if a long paragraph about that is added to the rules. it's probably not needed.

I already admitted I was wrong, what do you guys want?  Blood?
at this point i'm just trying to understand your thought process regarding these things.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1095  March 21, 2013, 02:44:53 pm
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I Obviously misread and/or misunderstood the rules.

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Mild nudity ("boobs + butt") and more aesthetic stuff is ok clearly marked as NSFW, preferably put into a
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I thought this was images posted, I understand now it's links.

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Anything "hardcore" is obviously out of bounds.

I thought this was images posted, I understand now it's links as well.

I do understand the difference between mild and hardcore since I debated jmorphman's obscene image was against the rules.  It was changed to a link the last I saw, and marked NSFW, which I thought was within the rules.  I dont have a clue where that is now (I looked for it briefly last night) and it's possible the link has since been removed.


Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1096  March 21, 2013, 02:49:46 pm
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What about this point ?
It is NOT bogus that I didn't see Duck's links.  I didn't see them, so I have no idea what they were.  If other staff say they were porn, then I believe they were porn.
Someone brought up the link expressly noting it was porn, and then you responded later on by saying you didn't see the porn, while accepting that there was a link. It totally sounds like you're doubting that said link was in fact porn.
Specifically, you think not actually seeing DuckSS' link is relevant.
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1097  March 21, 2013, 08:00:43 pm
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Guys and gurls, the only allowed porn links (images, videos, sites, etc) in a forum... is in a porn forum. In every other non-porn forum that isn't allowed, this is something implicit everyone should know, especially with the mod status on it (being normal one or global one). About ASSDuck, when someone said "serbian porn? that exists?" and he answers "yeah, there it is", I didn't have to see those link to assume it was porn (and amateur porn what I saw there), so there's no excuse about "not to see it".

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1098  March 21, 2013, 09:00:53 pm
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I Obviously misread and/or misunderstood the rules.

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Mild nudity ("boobs + butt") and more aesthetic stuff is ok clearly marked as NSFW, preferably put into a
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I thought this was images posted, I understand now it's links.

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Anything "hardcore" is obviously out of bounds.

I thought this was images posted, I understand now it's links as well.

I do understand the difference between mild and hardcore since I debated jmorphman's obscene image was against the rules.  It was changed to a link the last I saw, and marked NSFW, which I thought was within the rules.  I dont have a clue where that is now (I looked for it briefly last night) and it's possible the link has since been removed.

Its global, its not just pics or just links either.
Some discernment of whoever is modding might apply but its never as wide as the case where not beng specifically said in the rules that something like that isnt allowed makes it okay.


There is a lot of things that are assumed good behaviour on the internet, it includes spamming, using racist epithefs, using other pages to just post publicity to your page, homophobic comments, photoshopping the face of the person you are arguing with into bestiality pic and even posting porn.
You dont have to have a rule specifically telling people not to photoshop others into bestiality pics for it to be frowned upon, there is no way anyone can think that would be needed. You dont need to have a rule telling people not to get alternate accounts either, or to not circuvent bans.

I mean come on!

i'm going to add more rules since people are complaining that some "obvious" things are not so obvious

- Do not make secondary accounts
- Do not try to circumvent your bans
- The report button is for reports. Do not use it for anything else.
- Do not get account names with offensive names (i.e. Nigger we are dumb fucks spamming this site for ten years Fucker or LATINO COCK CUMS IN MY VAGINA)
- If you're a bot your account will be deleted.
- Do not use giant font sizes for all of your posts. Use giant font size wisely.
- Do not claim to not care about celebrity death. Or death in general. This is rude.
- Do not call people shitheads.
- Do not ignore points mid-discussion
- Do not make the same thread several times
- Do not post with missing vowels.
- Do not use this forum as a chatroom. If you want quick direct communication with another user use MSN or AIM or some other messaging service.
- Do not post with numbers instead of letters.
- Posts in all caps might be deleted depending on several factors, such as post length, the poster/post being funny or not and the moderator that noticed the post. Staff works under the assumption that something funny "makes you laugh or chuckle a bit".
- Racism will not be tolerated unless it's funny
- Do not make threads of bullet points of suggestions enormously large where all the suggestions are really obvious stuff, you are not a developer, development doesn't work that way.
- Do not reply to threads without reading the whole posts before that one, in case you do post without reading, include a line stating the same.
- Do not post a lot of images that are unrelated to the thread. Your post will be deleted unless the images are funny. They usually are not.
- Moderators shall use context and relevance on decision of necrobumps permanence, if a thread has under five posts , it might be allowed even with few content, if it has more than five, then the necrobump will only be allowed in case the person is the original op.
- Homophobic behavior will not be tolerated unless it comes from gay people.
- Do not be an asshole, definition of asshole inclludes questioning someone sexuality, posting their face on porn pictures, reply to threads where you have no actual interest to publicize your own endeavours, post torrents, question the taste in music of the other persons, question the taste in games of the other person, questioning the superiority of the American race.
- Posts about Mortal Kombat will be ridiculed.
- Nazi symbolism should be avoided. Unless it's really funny. KKK symbolism is always allowed.
- Drug addicts should refrain from mentioning their drugs unless they brought enough for everyone.
- Do not post pictures of your penis.
- Do not post pictures of your vaginahahaha there are no girls here anyway
- Do not talk about bad anime (definition of bad anime in addendum section 42-1)
- Do not troll other users unless you use sophisticated humor, have attention to detail and use no more than thirty percent sarcasm.
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1099  March 21, 2013, 09:48:07 pm
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There is a lot of things that are assumed good behaviour on the internet, it includes spamming, using racist epithefs, using other pages to just post publicity to your page, homophobic comments, photoshopping the face of the person you are arguing with into bestiality pic and even posting porn.
You dont have to have a rule specifically telling people not to photoshop others into bestiality pics for it to be frowned upon,

you said you wre nto going to talk about jango anymore.
Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#1100  March 22, 2013, 02:02:23 pm
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I don't think new accounts should be merged unless the person in question really really wants their username changed. Like if MBH wanted it to say MissBHaven instead. Or Rajaa wanted RajaaBoy back. Simply changing for the fuck of it, no.

There's an option to do that in the user profile, no? So why should creating a second account be considered for that purpose? It just seems redundant.