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M.U.G.E.N Central => M.U.G.E.N Discussion => Idea Engineering => Topic started by: MetaSkipper on October 06, 2012, 04:51:27 am

Title: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: MetaSkipper on October 06, 2012, 04:51:27 am
I'll admit, this probably won't have work started on it for a while, but wanted to get some ideas thrown around.

I've been thinking of bringing over my favorite lawyer to the world of MUGEN in the style of his fighting game debut, UMvC3. My biggest problem right now is getting sprites.

1. Learn to sprite.
Pros: Free
Cons: Long ass time between learning how to and actually doing it, worse quality

2. Capture 60FPS footage from my XBOX of Wright's moves from UMvC3 and use those for sprites, and get creative for things like grabs.
Pro: Better quality, "quicker"
Cons: Costs a not insignificant amount of money considering this is a hobby, kinda limited in what I can do

Of course, there are things like actually making him, programming things like evidence, but we'll burn that bridge when we get to it....
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: Iced on October 06, 2012, 04:55:18 am
why dont you pick a body that is wearing a suit and edit the head to look more like phoenix?
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: MetaSkipper on October 06, 2012, 05:00:07 am
why dont you pick a body that is wearing a suit and edit the head to look more like phoenix?

But... but that would be a simple and intelligent solution! We can't have that!

I suppose that would be possible. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: drewski90 on October 06, 2012, 05:08:58 am
what, he's starting on phoenix wright, well the other one hasn't been made progress yet, but anyways, best of luck making that phoenix wright character
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: MetaSkipper on October 06, 2012, 05:16:34 am
what, he's starting on phoenix wright, well the other one hasn't been made progress yet, but anyways, best of luck making that phoenix wright character

There's another Phoenix Wright? Adonde esta?
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: drewski90 on October 06, 2012, 05:35:54 am
what, he's starting on phoenix wright, well the other one hasn't been made progress yet, but anyways, best of luck making that phoenix wright character

There's another Phoenix Wright? Adonde esta?

yeah, bad news is that no progress has been made yet, maybe it's unfinished or something, because of inactive stuff
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: Duos.act on October 06, 2012, 05:58:27 am
Battle Ushiromiya from Ougon Musou Kyoku.  Obviously his jacket needs to be closed and hair changed, but it's definitely a start.
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: drewski90 on October 06, 2012, 06:02:49 am
and he also needs maya, his assistant
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: MetaSkipper on October 06, 2012, 06:12:01 am
Well, I can probably can get Maya, Missile, and the Judge from Youtube videos. Should be fine, although might be a little difficult finding usable footage.

But unless someone so graciously posted a video of all of his normals....
Wait a minute... I know some video guides....

     Posted: October 06, 2012, 06:42:01 am
Well, I looked at my sources, and decided they were very bad sources. So, back to the spriting board.
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: Nightmare Seth on October 07, 2012, 07:41:07 pm
Honestly. I think Shiki Tohno would make a GREAT base...
Jus' Sayin'.
(http://i48.tinypic.com/2cdz5mg.png)
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: Karasai on October 07, 2012, 07:46:22 pm
I could help you with your sprites :p

also maybe you could do what Auron did with Dormammu Rugal? idk
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: DW on October 07, 2012, 07:54:30 pm
You may want to talk to Acey over at IMT about Phoenix Wright. I've seen some sprites of Phoenix made by Acey that look really good. IDK if he just did a few sprites, or possibly even planning to make an entire char. Couldn't hurt to ask though. Maybe you could learn some spriting tips from him and possibly even collaborate with him to make Phoenix.
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: Basara Lapis on October 08, 2012, 09:40:32 pm
Another easy solution is to rip the images and then crop, clean and apply 256 colors for the SFF. It costs a lot of time, but not that much as spriting all the stuff. There're various "3D" chars who were adapted to 2D just with the ripped ones (recently, RS1 Batsu, i.e.)
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: MetaSkipper on October 09, 2012, 04:34:45 am
Another easy solution is to rip the images and then crop, clean and apply 256 colors for the SFF. It costs a lot of time, but not that much as spriting all the stuff. There're various "3D" chars who were adapted to 2D just with the ripped ones (recently, RS1 Batsu, i.e.)

Err... walk me through this one?
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: Basara Lapis on October 09, 2012, 04:52:58 am
You say about this, right??
2. Capture 60FPS footage from my XBOX of Wright's moves from UMvC3 and use those for sprites, and get creative for things like grabs.
Pro: Better quality, "quicker"
Cons: Costs a not insignificant amount of money considering this is a hobby, kinda limited in what I can do
Well, actually a lot of people use this method to pass 3D chars into 2D for MUGEN, converting the "sprites" in 256-color PCX, as I say, uses time the process (take shots, clean, crop, apply 256 colors, make palette, save as PCX) but definitively less than spriting. Here you got some examples of that:
-Werewood's Seth and Juri Han from SSFIV (http://page.freett.com/werewood/mugen.html)
-Stopmotiotoys' DB Final Bout project (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/looking-coders-my-3d-characters-145039.0.html)
-Batsu Ichimonji by Hiryo Xeoni (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/batsu-ichimonji-by-hiryo-xeoni-144675.0.html)
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: Enso on October 09, 2012, 08:11:15 am
Acey? Wolf, do you think Acey made Phoenix Wright sprites? I may not think so.
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: MetaSkipper on October 13, 2012, 06:25:34 am
Well, I THINK I've got a source for footage. Called in a favor from an interweb personality.
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: MetaSkipper on October 28, 2012, 08:31:34 pm
Considering a few more characters. Should I make a new thread, or just turn this into my Character Ideas Thread?
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: Daeron on October 28, 2012, 08:38:51 pm
I was actually making a phoenix using Eagle as base... look some anims:

(http://i51.tinypic.com/2m5gwau.gif)

(http://i52.tinypic.com/8wid6o.gif)

(http://i53.tinypic.com/25thtg1.gif)

Maybe this was the phoenix you were talking about earlier, its short of freeze at the moment :S

Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: FrozenDelight on October 28, 2012, 11:54:55 pm
Like MC2 said, Battler from Ougon Musou Kyoku. He looks ridiculously like Phoenix Wright.
(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/2033/battler0907.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/690/battler0907.png/)(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/820/00000510.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/696/00000510.png/)
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: Enso on October 29, 2012, 01:17:12 pm
Also, there was a Phoenix Wright character made by Alan Joestar, but I guess he cancelled it. Maybe.
Title: Re: Phoenix Wright (UMvC3)
Post by: MetaSkipper on January 19, 2013, 06:29:24 am
Been a long while, but I've gotten my source materials down for the most part. Should be able to start work relatively soon.