The Mugen Fighters Guild
Forum Particulars => Feedback => Topic started by: shinsou on March 18, 2008, 05:36:57 pm
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I have a suggestion...
Since there is a child board with edits we could have one for characters,stages and screenpacks that are just like in the original games or at least most similiar to them.
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Yeah, but you'd have to define the limit to "like the original".
Warusaki's stuff, for example, is defined as accurate to the games. But what about his Ken and Haohmaru.
What about POTS' stuff ? Lots of stuff (vels, system) is accurate to games, but the mix makes them custom chars.
Same goes with stages. Shift B is B makes somehow accurate stages from old school games, but has to edit them to some extent. Accurate or not ?
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Original is only original when it isn't death god shin evil orochi gay cock edits.
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Original creations aren't released often enough to justify having their own board.
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i think he mixed what we know as "original" with what we know as "accurate" but his point remains
but what pots said
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we could make a poll to decide wich one is more accurate and place them in a section for the game.
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that would lead to trouble way too often
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that would lead to trouble way too often
you`re probably right :( :argue:
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I think..Original in gameplay and other..In fact..ORiginal /edited (not orochi (name)..or Violent (name)...
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You are missing a verb.
I think
Original in gameplay and other
In fact
ORiginal /edited (not orochi (name)
or Violent (name)
Even if this was put together it reads :
I think original in gameplay and other in fact original/edited (not orochi (name) or violent(name)
Now this could mean, "I think that original is when they have a different gameplay and more, they are edited instead of being just changed by a name"
It could also mean "I think that original in gameplay and other stuff should just be fully original, instead of picking up another character and turning them orochi or violent"
It could also mean "I believe that only full original works should be deemed original."
I dont know.
And it makes me a sad panda that I keep asking you to please tidy up your speech a bit for comprehension and you dont even answer to me.
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:pwnonk:
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How about just a creator release board.
Right now we have creator releases mixed up with report releases. Creators topics are getting pushed to the next page very quickly. Splitting them up could get better feedback for creators.
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No,instead of a seperate release board for creators,a seperate sub-section for reporting releases would be better since people tend to mostly ignore sub-sections (releases > reporting releases in importance)
Creators - Release board
Reporting other creations (japanese creations mostly) - Sub-section within release board.
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:pwnonk:
For once, I totally agree with Titiln.
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Guild tried a creator release board once and very few people ever used it or responded there.
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KOD and you are talking about two different matters.
- KOD is asking to separate the announcements (releases by creators not on this forum) from the actual releases made by members.
- You are talking about a board which purpose was beta-testing a creation among other creators, to more or less be sure to get valuable feedback. And well, of course very few people used it : there were very few creators (not contributors) and Moderators back then, and they were the only ones who could see this section.
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I do have to agree it's hard to get feedback when you have guys that post heavy amounts of release threads from people that don't even post here (especially from the "news reporter" members). Not to mention feedback in most those news threads is useless: either someone's getting fellatio, someone's shitting a brick, someone's complaining about not being able to read the language, or someone's just complaining period.
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two points
1. its a good idea, mainly due to the news reporting pushing down creations that actually need feedback
2. its a bad idea since people would just say stuff like "nice job" most of the time (kinda like they do now) plus there would be heavy reporting from people saying "you cant say thet here" thus more work for the mods, and from what i know they want less work to deal with
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thus more work for the mods, and from what i know they want less work to deal with
Simple solution. If it gets out of hand, they can add some more moderators to the releases section. Just like they did in the request section.
I'm sure they can find a bunch of volunteers to help with the moderation. (raises hand)
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No,instead of a seperate release board for creators,a seperate sub-section for reporting releases would be better since people tend to mostly ignore sub-sections (releases > reporting releases in importance)
Creators - Release board
Reporting other creations (japanese creations mostly) - Sub-section within release board.
i kinda like this idea
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there would be heavy reporting from people saying "you cant say thet here"
if you're just here to enjoy people's releases and MUGEN itself, feel free to say "Thanks!" and "Awesome release!" to your heart's content.
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Laxxe: It's hard to picture someone other than yourself reporting a "nice char, gj" post. :P
Plus, like Jango kinda said, the point of splitting the two kinds of releases isn't filtering only useful feedback for "creator releases", but rather stopping nice car posts on "news report" threads from throwing useful topics to the second page.
And I like the idea myself, the way K.O.D. put it.
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I approve Kod idea.
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while its a good Idea I doubt if it will actually work as planned. I guess you could always try it out.
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Well, there aren't hundreads of news reporters anyway : Mugen Benoit, Tetsuo9999/Rice, and very few others, so I guess it shouldn't be hard for them to learn quickly how to post in the appropriate section.
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I love the idea. ;D
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Is it going to be done finally or not?
Since i've gotten my own release overshadowed by 7 report threads is perfect proof :P
Incase anyone didn't notice,when i first posted this post there were only 3 report threads.
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So, M. Admins ? Will you adopt this solution to avoid cluttering the release bord with "somehow useless topic" or not ?
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Yep. Everybody likes it and Titiln already said yes.
I would have changed the boards already but didn't have time to consider whether to drop the current EDITS section.
1) Your Releases > Found Releases
2) Your Releases > Found Releases | Edits etc (both self-posted and announced)
Leaning towards option 2 and keeping the Edits section. k?
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Okay for me.
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Like that? (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?board=347.0) Names and descriptions can be changed if something better comes along.
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Yeah, I guess that's what people wanted. Now, you can basically move almost every topic made by 9999 and Mugen Benoit to that section. ^_^ (Good luck)
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Sounds good to me.
Letting apart to what are the specs of an original character, i can add that the section should contain some kind of: shinny-like list of the reported original WIPs or whatever, making some arrangements of course, a database, huh? and about those filters of popularity, status of development, etc. A place maybe where people can sign a form and send it to the server and its auto listed.
But i doubt they'd want to make some sort of this on the boards, i could hardly think that stuff being in here.
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Hrm, I kind of think that the subforum unfairly seperates everything. I'm certainly in favor of a topic filter for those who want it, but right now the main release board is obviously getting precedence. Perhaps sticking the main release board into a third subforum (called your own releases or something) would even things out. No forum below the subforum links, just the 3 links seperating everything into different catagorys for your viewing pleasure.
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Mh, the precedence is wanted if you post about your own release. In the same way that full releases tended to get buried under modifications, releases by users (see KOD's example in this topic) tended to vanish quickly under releases from outside the known galaxy (err...).
Of course nobody wants to miss when GM releases Ibuki and the majority wants to hear about it when warusaki updates something (the rest can groan "not again!" XD) and it's always an event and great that there's always somebody who goes out of his way to inform the rest who might not have heard the news already.
Nevertheless, I don't wouldn't say it's unfair to put releases by members first. If you bother to be around for your own releases (even if you don't announce it yourself, like in DRACUL's example here (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=77336.0) [somebody else announced it but DRACUL shows presence]), isn't it only fair that you get a little more attention back?
Alternatively we could have all three sections on equal level on the main board index... doesn't appeal to me as much. I don't think somehow categorizing like you suggest would be sensible from the technological side, it would require extra work and sections are ideal for the same purpose.
Anibaru Carthan, I think that would be too much work.