Hey guys!I decided to let you know about a project of mine. I realize I was known of starting stuff and not really finishing it, but I want to change it now, 'cause it's killing me to know I was like that in the past. Although I have much less time than before when I was more into MUGEN (husband, father, hard working owner of an online shop I started at the beginning of this year, called EMEME (t-shirts and hoodies for geeks)) I still have some time at nights and weekends.The plan is just to get him done, no rushing, just create something I will be glad to leave for MUGEN community as I will leave it for good.Ok, now more into details - Because I want to focus onto sprting only, Cybaster will be coding my Nappa (yep, that sexy beast).As for the gameplay, he is going to be Z2 style. List of attacks, specials and supers will be made in the near future, I still have to sit and write down all the ideas I have - but I can't seem to get away from the sprites - so fun char to work on, trust me on that. Because of this and the fact I will be off to a little vacation for a week, I thought it will be a good idea to ask you guys for ideas and your feedback - can't waste time. For now, I'm done with simple moves (jumps, walks, crouch, etc) and almost all gethits - when I'm done with those, going for basic attacks. The stance anim took me like a whole day, but I'm happy with it, turned out fine.Screens:Spoiler, click to toggle visibiltySry that I'm not showing more, but I'm too lazy and busy to make gifs.Stay tuned till I will post some screens or anims in a week or two.If you want to support me and you're a poor student for example - instead of donating cash, just like my online shop on facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ememepl - will be thankful for that.
Lookin' great.And looking forward to seeing some progress.About his stance though. His eyebrows kinda shrink. It's hard to make out what's happening, but shouldn't there be more movement in the front, rather than the back?Also. Dat Zangeif portrait. Good luck, man. This looks real promising.
Thanks man. Yeah, 'bout that Zangief's portrait - got my own, but don't care about it that much, since Zangief works for me as a sprite swapper for now, later Cybaster will be working on a char as a seperate character.
Waiting to see what you come up with for animations.Will try to post some ideas. Balthazar and Iced, get your asses in there too.
God Balth what the hell did you do? Stop passing your "Z" Aids!!! LOL all in the that sprite looks hella good!
I hope you're planning on making him play with the exact same system as cybaster/balth's characters that way he meshes well with him, sprites look awesome ... :-)
F. James Fernandez said, November 22, 2012, 05:41:36 pmGod Balth what the hell did you do? Stop passing your "Z" Aids!!!I wouldn't mind being a bug chaser of that .
Looks good, but I think the custom get hit sprite for him should be like this: Spoiler, click to toggle visibiltyDooM said, November 22, 2012, 04:36:48 pmThe plan is just to get him done, no rushing, just create something I will be glad to leave for MUGEN community as I will leave it for good.So that means you'll leave after finishing this...I have some ideas for Nappa:Bomber DX - Spoiler, click to toggle visibiltyAura Burst - he gets more strength but he will lack of speedSpoiler, click to toggle visibilty
moveset ideas!Level 1 Super - Bomber DX (QCF, QCF + P)Nappa throws a projectile, which does multiple hits before explodingLevel 2 Super - Break Cannon (QCF, QCF + PP)Beam from his mouthLevel 2 Super - Lighting Aura (Down, Down, Down, + MK, MP)Lightning Aura would be similar to Goku's Hope gauge, and Vegeta's Rage gauge[With Lighting Aura] Level 3 Super - KapaNappa fires a lightning charged Break Cannon[With Lighting Aura] Level 3 Super - Arm BreakNappa would dash at the opponent, and punch their arm, the screen goes to black/red as you see a blood splatter and an arm fly into the air. Screen fades back to normal as the opponent is on the ground
Karasai said, November 22, 2012, 06:38:32 pm[With Lighting Aura] Level 3 Super - Arm BreakNappa would dash at the opponent, and punch their arm, the screen goes to black/red as you see a blood splatter and an arm fly into the air. Screen fades back to normal as the opponent is on the groundFatality!I would see it performed also when the opponent's life is lower or equal to 250. That way it could work right, but the flying arm... I wouldn't put it.
Thanks for the kind comments and awesome ideas guys (keep posting screens from some games or YT video clips from the show when writing down ideas, just for better reference).About that arm in the air... well that could get weird, knowing you can fight all type of mugen chars (such as humans and aliens).
Though not the only one to use it, it's still kinda Nappa's signature move, so if you can work in one of the variations of the Exploding Wave into the character (Preferably the Blazing Storm, or the Volcano Explosion), that would be great.Liking what I see done so far though, so best of luck working on him.
i beg of you to try to get someone who can sound like takahata101 on tfs abridged. or even him himself if at all possible. Tfs made nappa interesting rather than a generic villain.
There's a way to do that arm move without needing custom animations, but it's kind of loopy.A lot of MK and Samurai Shodown characters have a black box or something imposed over the parts of the character that are meant to be removed. For instance, Johnny Cage's uppercut fatality would have a black box over the head. An alternative here would be to use that method to cover anything but the arm. However, due to the nature of gethit animations the arm placement is not consistent, so even this is a questionable idea. The only real way to make it 100% work is to have custom animations like Basara's fatality from Samurai Shodown where the character's head flies into the air.
Quotei beg of you to try to get someone who can sound like takahata101 on tfs abridged. or even him himself if at all possible. Tfs made nappa interesting rather than a generic villain.NO
...As with Vegeta, as long as there's an option for his normal voice, then go crazy with the alt. one. I'll stick to the Nappa I know.Risking asking something stupid, is he going to be a grappler?
So the guy who voiced Nappa in DBZ Abriged is takahata101? Well, you know, don't want to show off (I do ), but I make some nice money with my online store and could pay the guy if he wouldn't like to help for free.Anyone care to help me find a way to contact him? PM me.Still too soon to think about voice overs, but will definitely add it to my to-do list.Llong Jjohn Killer said, November 22, 2012, 08:26:12 pmRisking asking something stupid, is he going to be a grappler?Well, one grap or two won't hurt, but he will definitely not remind Zangief at this point.
Now, this is really interesting, there are a bunch of DBZ characters out there but at last someone give a chance to Nappa, looks pretty cool, i'm definitely following this, best of luck with this character.
I didn't see this coming lol.. Nappa looks Nice, I can't wait to see more of the progress ... well now Balth.. Make Raditz lol
Mr.Snitch said, November 23, 2012, 08:37:47 amI didn't see this coming lol.. Nappa looks Nice, I can't wait to see more of the progress ... well now Balth.. Make Raditz lolHe probably would have done it earlier, but remember that he has a dislike for the Saiyan armor.
Looks good!!About his standing animation, the back of his neck must be BIGGER.He seems to have a skinny neck and DBZ is about big necks Keep up the good work!!
(det∇ϕ(x))²-µ(λ+µ/θ)/∂Ω said, November 23, 2012, 09:26:36 amBalth never said he would do Raditz, regardless of Saiyan armour or not. o_oBut he made one sprite for him ! Doesn't that mean he'll do the full sheet ?? Aw.
the yellow border jumps up on the last frames unnaturally. The head is sortof of sticking out here.You are going with an edited stance? To differentiate from Zangief more?
(det∇ϕ(x))²-µ(λ+µ/θ)/∂Ω said, November 23, 2012, 09:26:36 amBalth never said he would do Raditz, regardless of Saiyan armour or not. o_oMy apologies.
Iced King said, November 23, 2012, 01:34:31 pmthe yellow border jumps up on the last frames unnaturally. The head is sortof of sticking out here.You are going with an edited stance? To differentiate from Zangief more?Which yellow border? on the left leg?Well, this is the stance for now, the one I frankensprited, more "karate-kish", is still in development and I'm still considering it. Tho, I'm focusing on more important stuff since I remember working on stance anims for previous wips and that it was the last thing I had motivations to work on... not this time. Generally, yes, I make sure Nappa is not going to be so Zangief like, no worries about that.
This Nappa reminds Me of a old DBZ Mugen Game project that was posted at scruffydragon before. İ remember Doom being involed into thatone. İs this Nappa, that Nappa with improvements? İ was hyped for that back than but, it was canceled İ guess.Ontopic: This Nappa surely looks good in terms of ways. He could have a special KO after his fight with Vegeta. He could trow Nappa in the sky and blast him like in The Saiyan Saga.
Yes, it is, buddy! It's fucking awesome to see you back (you never posted again on dA, I gonna kill you ) and with this great revival!
At first I only liked the Hyper dimension simple artstyle was the onle one appealing to me, but with the Z2 one, it injects life into the chars. Glad to hear Nappa is not being ignored. Has a tons of potential (way more attacks than Raditz at least lol) I can only imagine how glorious a Broli Z2 could look (wish! for certain someone who thinks otherwise).
DooM said, November 23, 2012, 01:47:12 pmIced King said, November 23, 2012, 01:34:31 pmthe yellow border jumps up on the last frames unnaturally. The head is sortof of sticking out here.You are going with an edited stance? To differentiate from Zangief more?Which yellow border? on the left leg?Yes, left leg, the last few frame have it jumping up, if it was lower down it would probably feel more natural.To everyone raving about full games, if you have any experience in mugen you know that you never go for a "full game" of edited stuff. You go for characters and small releases and if it comes to that, you package those. Planning a fullgame of edited characters when you barely have one is dumb and generally a waste of your time. Let doom focus on his wip without cries of fullgames.
this maybe could help you to have some idea for is gameplay here is the link cuz i cant uploaud the picture correctly http://chronostrife.herobo.com/index.php?page=spritesheets
Quotehttp://chronostrife.herobo.com/images/sheets/SheetNappa07.gifGrapples/Slams and an odd kind of Soviet Russia dance!lol did those guys ever played street fighter before I didnt know people in Russia dance while spinning around with their fists outward
Thanks LordSinistro for the link, might be helpful.BTW, does anybody know where I could find clean (hairless and scarless) SFA3 Zangief's sprites? I remember that last time I was working on my Nappa somebody mentioned it to me or I did receive a package of those from someone - can't remember now... would definitely speed up the progress.
I love your fluid animation and the look of your sprites. Great work.As for his ultimate attack (like Saiyajin Vegeta's Big Bang and Goku's Kaio Ken), I want to say his mouth beam (with a black screen and some certain effects to make it seem likes it's traveling a long distance (and rocks breaking off the ground to show that the beam means fucking business) before coming into contact with the opponent), but that sounds kind of boring. Maybe a quick barrage ending with a very powerful, quickly charged punch or headbutt to send the opponent flying away and THEN the mouth beam. You decide whether that powerful punch or headbutt sends the opponent far away into the air or along the ground.
I would stick with DooM's:It seems you rushed the work on your edit.-You didn't complete the scouter.-The armour isn't like that!---@Iced: of course he wasn't.Ah, and don't worry.When you posted I was editing mine.
That looks horrible. You got a literal white outline on all the striped parts and no shading =CG.o.D. said, November 23, 2012, 09:45:44 pmI would stick with DooM's.It seems you rushed the work.I doubt he was offering to resprite the whole thing himself.edit @g.o.d.: ah the preview didnt show me your pic while i was posting.
Rajaa said, November 22, 2012, 06:17:16 pmI'll politely just tell you to read the first post.I do apologize about this, I just kinda' skimmed really fast, and I usually try to read everything before posted. Very excited. As far as the TFS Nappa voice ... ummm, I wouldn't mind it so much, but I think it'd be better as an alternate soundpack, I feel like it would sharply take the seriousness out of there character, then again ... The None's characters are anything but serious, however he's probably one of the best coders/creators out there ...[back on topic]When can I be expecting a palette template? :-p Posted: November 23, 2012, 11:10:37 pmLordSinistro said, November 23, 2012, 06:59:08 pmthis maybe could help you to have some idea for is gameplay here is the link cuz i cant uploaud the picture correctly http://chronostrife.herobo.com/index.php?page=spritesheetsWhy does Nappa have a sword!?Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
He heard about how Trunks killed Frieza with one, so he clearly put it together in his genius mind of his that swords must be Frieza's weakness.Plus he's the general of the Saiyan army, has to have some sort of weapon of course. Just left it before coming to Earth.Anyways, an idea for a move came to mind if you're still thinking of any, and if Nappa doesn't already have Super Armor. If I recall correctly, in Raging Blast 2 he (And a few other larger characters) has a special move that they would momentarily gain said armor while charging a shoulder rush. Perhaps that could be implemented? Can't think of many characters out there that do that.
Llong Jjohn Killer said, November 23, 2012, 11:22:31 pmHe heard about how Trunks killed Frieza with one, so he clearly put it together in his genius mind of his that swords must be Frieza's weakness.Plus he's the general of the Saiyan army, has to have some sort of weapon of course. Just left it before coming to Earth.Anyways, an idea for a move came to mind if you're still thinking of any, and if Nappa doesn't already have Super Armor. If I recall correctly, in Raging Blast 2 he (And a few other larger characters) has a special move that they would momentarily gain said armor while charging a shoulder rush. Perhaps that could be implemented? Can't think of many characters out there that do that. ... , that was good. :-p
@Noctis, thanks for the kind words and for the good idea - I'd say we see it the same way. I do want this attack to be strong and to show it that way.@Ness Vilain, I think I'm going for seriousness AND a bit of vocal fun - I think we all can agree that real Nappa clearly is both really.@Llong Jjohn Killer, could you refrain the idea, or put a reference vid or something?
I'm actually looking for a vid of the move now....less videos of Raging Blast than I thought up on Youtube, most people don't seem to be making use of the move. I'll find one...Sorry for the late find, there's one of it here at 0:53. Pardon the person talking over it.
DooM said, November 23, 2012, 11:31:14 pm@Noctis, thanks for the kind words and for the good idea - I'd say we see it the same way. I do want this attack to be strong and to show it that way.@Ness Vilain, I think I'm going for seriousness AND a bit of vocal fun - I think we all can agree that real Nappa clearly is both really.@Llong Jjohn Killer, could you refrain the idea, or put a reference vid or something?Both are good, I have no problem with that ... I just figured most people wouldn't want to go with that, that's why I said what I said. I absolutely LOVE TFS Abriged, I think it would be very very funny.
Ok guys, off to a little vacation of my own, so = no computer (well, I'll still try to visit sometimes via my phone ).I won't leave you with nothing tho.
Goodaldo said, November 24, 2012, 02:19:53 amdat small portrait, sexy Really catches his cocky attitude. Nice work, dude!
Nice portrait! Needs a half-face variant a la Team Z2. Still looking good.Also, like G.o.D said before, any chances of editing his broken back sprite to this?G.o.D. said, November 22, 2012, 06:32:15 pmSpoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Thanks guys!Wolvegeta said, November 24, 2012, 09:23:15 amNice portrait! Needs a half-face variant a la Team Z2. Still looking good.Still working on it:Not really sure what to improve here...QuoteAlso, like G.o.D said before, any chances of editing his broken back sprite to this?later, for sure, but later.Spoiler, click to toggle visibiltyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vPeqQknKl8
That portrait looks good enough IMO. Although I think it should be horizontal-inverted.And great regarding the broken back.Also, I just found this: Custom intro against GokuZ2? Please?
I'm pretty sure that sprite was from the original Goku Z2, and somewhere along the line, we're at like Goku Z4 or something There was an entire debate about it at one point in Goku's WiP topic
(det∇ϕ(x))²-µ(λ+µ/θ)/∂Ω said, November 24, 2012, 10:31:51 pmNope, this is definitely Goku's latest rendition in terms of graphic style.Oops. I guess that Nappa being so big makes Goku look smaller But yeah, an intro between Nappa and everyone Z2 lol Another area that intros from TFS could be good in the Z2 chars
lol a cool intro would be vegeta saying gokus powerlevel is 1009.Then if Nappa loses,vegeta says he had the scouter upside down,and its over 9000.From TFS btw.
Erroratu said, November 24, 2012, 11:21:38 pmlol a cool intro would be vegeta saying gokus powerlevel is 1009.Then if Nappa loses,vegeta says he had the scouter upside down,and its over 9000.From TFS btw.you mean 1006 not 1009.
So this is going to be one of those chars that uses brute strenght but they are slow?AnywayIam not a fan or like Z2 style but this one really looks good.Good luck.
Hyōgo™ said, November 25, 2012, 10:42:22 pmLaharl said, November 25, 2012, 09:45:26 pmneeds more of this No, no it doesn't.I second this statement.
Karasai said, November 25, 2012, 11:19:29 pmAll of the Teamfourstar references get annoying over time.True.VERY true.
oh i probably should of responded to both karasai and wizzy. i didn't direct that at you cazaki sorrys.
I do agree with Chamat, but ofcourse you already had this style from your old project.I did another Nappa myself just to see how it'd turn out in true Z2 style.
That Broly is so ugly, look at his round knees!Anyway, when I was finished with Nappa, I realised I might have used the same base i used for that Broly...I forgot the tail because It's not shown in some images, and I thought his was cut off at some point.
What the....NAPPA NOW TOO !Although he kinda looks more like a MvC char rather than the Z2 style BUT then again the sprites you're using are good too so you got my support
I have to disagree with those criticizing his/her style.Spoiler, click to toggle visibiltyNappa is fucking huge! DooM is going in the right direction in my opinion.Anyways, about that idea I said before. Use his short power burst (like he used in the anime where he got a lot stronger) as the barrage before sending his opponent flying and then shooting a mouth beam.Also, this idea was inspired by Halo 4 gameplay with my brother. We were playing on Legendary and the only thing we could think of was I sit back safely and he charges and kills whatever he can before he dies. Well he's down to the last enemy and it just so happens to be a kamikaze Grunt. You would think he'd die from two grenades exploding in his face, but no. Not him. He literally walks through the explosion, completely unharmed and beats down the Grunt like a boss......Nappa creates an energy ball in both hands (or he just simply fills both hands with ki) and beats down on the opponent with each punch delivering an explosion from the energy in his hands.
I REALLY LIKE ITbut the shading doesn't fit in z2 but is really easy changed it only see this use the dark lines of the original sprite and the main light and put a color for transition
zero de armentis said, November 29, 2012, 12:15:07 amI REALLY LIKE ITbut the shading doesn't fit in z2 but is really easy changed it only see this use the dark lines of the original sprite and the main light and put a color for transitionI take that MvC statement back color makes a huge difference lol
zero de armentis said, November 29, 2012, 12:15:07 amI REALLY LIKE ITbut the shading doesn't fit in z2 but is really easy changed it only see this use the dark lines of the original sprite and the main light and put a color for transitionThis is incredible! If the leg muscles were bit more lean, I think it'd match the Z2 style perfectly. The shading is spot on, though!
holy shit thats one hell of a sprite update!YAY YOU'RE DOING THE NUDE NAPPA WE ALL WIN.Though why does his peck definition and nipples dissapear in the following frames after the first?i also suggest adding a couple more transition frames and a blur effect.regardless holy shit im so excited to see this come back
Could it be? It's... beautiful! So in-style! I agree that a motion blur frame would work wonders here.Nappa's back baby!walruslui said, March 11, 2016, 01:50:58 amYAY YOU'RE DOING THE NUDE NAPPA WE ALL WIN.I'm glad, spriting that Saiyan armour would be torture!
....thanks friends i will take this wip to bring to live, the armor version its cool too maybe later IOI, oh i see the error on chest i forget it!!
HOT DAMNNN, that is some smooth shitim really exited to see that shadedalso i made a nappa portrait not too long ago if you want to use it for this project
Thanks its a mix of techniques, but its necesary the outline clean, and the z2 style shade, i continues show more progress about him!!
I can't wait to battle with this dude I think the Z2 DBZ characters are the best DBZ characters pound for pound this release is going to be epic!!!!!
