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Started by Titiln, November 19, 2004, 06:28:24 pm
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Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
#1021  July 26, 2013, 10:27:05 pm
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Sauceome! Loving the effects they're doing.

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#1022  July 27, 2013, 03:29:44 am
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Sakurai Explains Why You Won’t See Fighting Game Characters In Super Smash Bros.
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“The biggest feature we look at in Smash Bros. is, ‘What does this character bring to Smash Bros. that other characters don’t?’ If you look at… someone from a fighting game already, and people like fighting with this character, from my point of view, it’s like ‘this guy does what this guy already does. He fills the role that this character already has. So while you may like this character and he’s interesting, that doesn’t really merge well, here.” – Sakurai
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Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
#1023  July 27, 2013, 03:44:37 am
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Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
#1024  July 27, 2013, 03:47:13 am
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Sakurai hates FG's, that's for sure.

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#1025  July 27, 2013, 03:51:27 am
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actually that makes sense


a lot of these characters (bar link/shiek, marth/roy, samus, ganon etc) would have never even been seen in a combative aspect if not for smash, whereas, fighting game characters, well duh


at least thats what i got from that quip

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#1026  July 27, 2013, 03:52:47 am
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Nero D. said, July 27, 2013, 03:51:27 am
actually that makes sense


a lot of these characters (bar link/shiek, marth/roy, samus, cpt falcon, etc) would have never even been seen in a combative aspect if not for smash, whereas, fighting game characters, well duh


at least thats what i got from that quip



so, let me focus less on third-party characters and more on pokemon that needs to be here, like zoroark and infernape

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#1027  July 27, 2013, 03:55:44 am
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#1028  July 27, 2013, 04:11:51 am
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#1029  July 27, 2013, 04:28:44 am
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that question didn't really deserve answering, the most obvious fighting game choice would be ryu but having two capcom characters would be too much. ‘what does this character bring to smash bros that other characters don’t?’ is funny considering the amount of clone characters in previous games, but hopefully it won't be that bad this time around

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#1030  July 27, 2013, 06:16:01 am
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The less clones the better. I also think Luigi's moveset could use a little more tweaking, if he returns. Even with the Green Missile move and Luigi Tornado(In Brawl, due to Mario's down-B move being F.L.U.D.D)

As much as I like EarthBound/Mother, SSB doesn't need any more characters from that series. I mean there's already been:
-Mr. Saturn as an item since Melee
-Two stages in SSB:M(With one of them returning in Brawl)
-One of the party members as an assist trophy(Brawl)
-Porky as a boss in Subspace and the King Pig Statue making a short appearance(Brawl)
-Trophies and Stickers and music.

Just do like Melee and just have Ness, some trophies and keep the Onett stage.
Lucas' appearance ended up only putting another clone in Brawl, along with plot spoilers for Mother 3.

I agree with the exclusion of fighting game characters, especially when you could consider how the moveset would have to be tweaked for SSB.

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#1031  July 27, 2013, 11:10:18 am
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Less clones > bigger roster

Plus, the bigger the roster, the longer All-Star Mode takes |:[

Iced said, July 24, 2013, 01:25:14 am
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#1032  July 27, 2013, 11:36:02 am
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#1033  July 27, 2013, 01:09:56 pm
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#1035  July 27, 2013, 03:34:22 pm
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TMNTgirl said, July 27, 2013, 03:04:05 pm
Trinitronity said, July 27, 2013, 01:09:56 pm
TMNTgirl said, July 27, 2013, 11:36:02 am
The longer the game is, the better.
For some games, this is true.

Then they need more new characters and less clones. Feel sorry for Falco, Luigi or Wolf, but better than nothing.
Luigi should be kept: He isn't a real Mario clone anymore, unlike in Melee, were the only difference was the side+B special.
However, I can see Falco and Wolf not appearing in this Smash Bros, as well as Lucas. I just hope that Sakurai will at least keep the veterans from the first Smash Bros, since they're kinda iconic.
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#1036  July 27, 2013, 05:45:24 pm
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Trinitronity said, July 27, 2013, 03:34:22 pm
Luigi should be kept: He isn't a real Mario clone anymore, unlike in Melee, were the only difference was the side+B special.

...and his running A, his recovery (which was terrible, save for the whole explosion part), his side smash and probably a bunch of others. To me, he was only a real clone in the first Smash Bros.

In a way, Drewski has a point. Almost all the Pokémon characters are gimmicks. I want to play as the other Pokémon characters, but they're all so useless. Even Jigglypuff lost any usefulness it had prior to Brawl. If the team focused less on getting their silly gimmicks working and more time actually making them playable, I'd be happy.
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#1037  July 27, 2013, 06:25:22 pm
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Roman55 said, July 27, 2013, 03:29:44 am
Sakurai Explains Why You Won’t See Fighting Game Characters In Super Smash Bros.
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“The biggest feature we look at in Smash Bros. is, ‘What does this character bring to Smash Bros. that other characters don’t?’ If you look at… someone from a fighting game already, and people like fighting with this character, from my point of view, it’s like ‘this guy does what this guy already does. He fills the role that this character already has. So while you may like this character and he’s interesting, that doesn’t really merge well, here.” – Sakurai

So, I assuming nothing from Tekken nor Soul Calibur then, right?

That's a shame. I was really hoping for someone like that.
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#1038  July 27, 2013, 06:51:21 pm
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GarchompMatt said, July 27, 2013, 05:45:24 pm
Trinitronity said, July 27, 2013, 03:34:22 pm
Luigi should be kept: He isn't a real Mario clone anymore, unlike in Melee, were the only difference was the side+B special.

...and his running A, his recovery (which was terrible, save for the whole explosion part), his side smash and probably a bunch of others. To me, he was only a real clone in the first Smash Bros.
Oh yeah, forgot about these. :P
And since we're already at it, we can also count in Luigi's taunt, which actually damages the opponent (like Dudley's rose throw taunt in the SF3 series).
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bitter nothings said, April 30, 2010, 09:35:51 pm
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DNZRX768 said, July 27, 2013, 06:25:22 pm
Roman55 said, July 27, 2013, 03:29:44 am
Sakurai Explains Why You Won’t See Fighting Game Characters In Super Smash Bros.
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“The biggest feature we look at in Smash Bros. is, ‘What does this character bring to Smash Bros. that other characters don’t?’ If you look at… someone from a fighting game already, and people like fighting with this character, from my point of view, it’s like ‘this guy does what this guy already does. He fills the role that this character already has. So while you may like this character and he’s interesting, that doesn’t really merge well, here.” – Sakurai

So, I assuming nothing from Tekken nor Soul Calibur then, right?

That's a shame. I was really hoping for someone like that.

same here for king of fighters and fatal fury, but I digress
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