Titiln said, August 03, 2012, 08:35:17 pmwow you still don't understand how state legislation works? after all these pages and multiple users attempting to explain it to you? why are you so dense?yes, i understand that each state has its own legislation. and ? in some state i could get killed by some crazy guy carrying 20 guns legallyalso, isn't it supposed to be the UNITED states of america ? i'll rename it the different_laws_in_each states of americaRajaa said, August 03, 2012, 09:02:09 pmEvery state is different. That's the fucking beauty of the country. [...] There are varying positions on gun policies because people think differently.beautiful... wait no i dont see how. why not just split each state into its own country at this point then ?with this way of thinking, might as well having one set of laws per person, because everybody thinks differently from his neighbourMissBHaven said, August 03, 2012, 09:09:00 pmLets start making generalizations about Europe! Like Europe was responsible for the worst school killing and the harshest genocide in this century. Why can't Europeans handle these horrible things?too bad europe is not a country. and there wasn't any genocide in europe THIS century.but we can talk about who launched several holy wars to the middle west if you want (hint: it's a country)
kanada? no? texas? idk why europeans think they're superior to americans while they did some pretty useful inventions and innovations. except for germany like it or not they produced most ingenious creations in the past 100 years.
Well if some of your generalization examples included Asians, they're not a country. They're a race. So why can't people generalize about Europe? This is pointless. Let's face it, generalization, no matter how it's used, looks bad. This is undisputed.
Doppelganger said, August 03, 2012, 09:30:14 pmTitiln said, August 03, 2012, 08:35:17 pmwow you still don't understand how state legislation works? after all these pages and multiple users attempting to explain it to you? why are you so dense?yes, i understand that each state has its own legislation. and ? in some state i could get killed by some crazy guy carrying 20 guns legallyalso, isn't it supposed to be the UNITED states of america ? i'll rename it the different_laws_in_each states of americaRajaa said, August 03, 2012, 09:02:09 pmEvery state is different. That's the fucking beauty of the country. [...] There are varying positions on gun policies because people think differently.beautiful... wait no i dont see how. why not just split each state into its own country at this point then ?with this way of thinking, might as well having one set of laws per person, because everybody thinks differently from his neighbourMissBHaven said, August 03, 2012, 09:09:00 pmLets start making generalizations about Europe! Like Europe was responsible for the worst school killing and the harshest genocide in this century. Why can't Europeans handle these horrible things?too bad europe is not a country. and there wasn't any genocide in europe THIS century.but we can talk about who launched several holy wars to the middle west if you want (hint: it's a country)You're questioning the structure of the United States of America and saying that each state should be its own country and comparing that to the tyranny of having individual laws for each person, which not only shows how little you understand about the country, but it is also almost as bad as you comparing banning costumes from a movie theater to racism. You fell so easily into MBH's joke-post which shows how eager you are to make America look bad. You have a huge gaping bias reaming with the puss of your ignorance. I don't think there's any hope for you.
I will try some Cybastr approved generalizations. Cybaster maybe you should try backing up your arguments with intelligence, the intelligence you didn't use when coding a dumb flashy DBZ character.What? That's an unfair judgment of your characters? Well, tough shit. The vast majority of DBZ characters are like that, so even if yours were any good, you don't get to complain!
Jmorphman said, August 03, 2012, 08:41:47 pmCarpe Diem said, August 03, 2012, 08:38:11 pmSay that again when gun regulation becomes the norm and not the exception, thanks.OK....Oh wait, it already is.No, not when nearly half of the states don't actually make it hard to get a gun, it isn't the norm.Rajaa said, August 03, 2012, 09:02:09 pmEvery state is different. That's the fucking beauty of the country.I was just saying it's the fucking problem, and you reply it's the fucking beauty.
Killer Kong? said, August 03, 2012, 09:46:56 pmWell if some of your generalization examples included Asians, they're not a country. They're a race. So why can't people generalize about Europe? This is pointless. Let's face it, generalization, no matter how it's used, looks bad. This is undisputed. asians isn't a race it's a term for people living in asia, there are various races in asia like orientals,malay,arab and other ethnic groups. but imo "human races" is a stupid idea and come to think of it westerners are very obsess about grouping people by "races". @rajaa: i think he was saying that the usa's problem is it's states having different laws.
Carpe Diem said, August 03, 2012, 10:02:02 pmNo, not when nearly half of the states don't actually make it hard to get a gun, it isn't the norm.They're still regulated. That regulation may not be tight enough for either your or my standards, but it still exists.
I should remind you that you were replying to a post where I was saying that the people who want stricter regulations were the minority.
Carpe Diem said, August 03, 2012, 10:11:33 pmI should remind you that you were replying to a post where I was saying that the people who want stricter regulations were the minority.Thanks, but I can read all by myself. I'm a big boy.
Rajaa said, August 03, 2012, 09:50:06 pmYou're questioning the structure of the United States of America and saying that each state should be its own country and comparing that to the tyranny of having individual laws for each person, which not only shows how little you understand about the country, but it is also almost as bad as you comparing banning costumes from a movie theater to racism. You're the only country in the world (I think) were each part of the country has laws different from its neighbour. I fail to see how it makes this country "beautiful".It was not a comparison either. I don't see how you can think it's a comparison.Rajaa said, August 03, 2012, 09:50:06 pmYou fell so easily into MBH's joke-post80% of her posts are joke-like posts, and it doesn't make my post any less true. France or Germany shouldn't have to take care or Norway's problems. The US government should take care of the problems in its States.Rajaa said, August 03, 2012, 09:50:06 pmwhich shows how eager you are to make America look bad. You have a huge gaping bias reaming with the puss of your ignorance. I don't think there's any hope for you.I'm open to any discussion. How laws for companies in the US allow much more liberty than in France and I'd prefer if we had this system. How France almost got a sex addict president. How Italy had one. How Spain's and Portugal's unemployment rate, especially for young people, is high. How USA should stop launching wars in the Middle West. How the way the European Economical crysis is handled is bad. How bad the Mexican cartels are. The US has good laws and bad laws (state dependent or not), the topic at hand is about gun laws, which I consider badly handled in the US. Feel free to open topics and criticize, in a good or bad way, things happening in any countries. If I think it makes sense, I will say it. If I think it's stupid, I'll say it. This has nothing to do with any kind of bias.Stop thinking anybody disagreeing with you is an Anti-American wuss.Which brings me to :地獄の花 said, August 03, 2012, 09:41:49 pmidk why europeans think they're superior to americans while they did some pretty useful inventions and innovations. except for germany like it or not they produced most ingenious creations in the past 100 years.What the fuck are you talking about ? Where did anybody say "Europe > America" ? What do inventions have to do with anything discussed here ? Einstein and Tesla could have been American, it would change nothing to how good or stupid some of their laws are.Jmorphman said, August 03, 2012, 09:53:10 pmCybaster maybe you should try backing up your arguments with intelligence, the intelligence you didn't use when coding a dumb flashy DBZ character.I'm a failure. I'd like to be like Jmorphman ...Orochi Gill said, July 15, 2012, 06:30:23 pmExcept he makes boring characters [/jk]Rajaa said, August 03, 2012, 10:04:02 pmIt's what problem?Carpe Diem said, August 03, 2012, 08:38:11 pmstate legislation is retarded on something as important as that - it's criminally dumb, even. The whole country should have a regulation for that. This is exactly why the USA as a whole can't be taken seriously on this matter, and why people end up saying what Cybaster says. Don't say "you don't understand that states have their own laws each" as if it was an excuse, because it's not. It's the cause (or a major cause) of the problem.
Doppelganger said, August 04, 2012, 12:06:56 amYou're the only country in the world (I think) were each part of the country has laws different from its neighbour. I fail to see how it makes this country "beautiful".It was not a comparison either. I don't see how you can think it's a comparison.It's beatiful because it allows more flexibility and more room for democracy. Each state is big enough to have slightly different needs, and a lot of people with fairly different views on how to handle them. It would be pretty hard for a single federal goverment to handle all of the states and make decisions that pleased the population of those states.
Cybaster I think the entirity of what Jmorphman is saying is that generalization simply looks bad and doesn't really...eh...HELP whatever points you're trying to make. It just makes them seem less valid. I shouldn't have to point out the whole "go out in the streets and get shot" ideas you've conveyed, just look back and you'll see. I bear no ill will but this is an observation I can't help but make.
Captain Bullshit Anime said, August 04, 2012, 12:14:35 amIt's beatiful because it allows more flexibility and more room for democracy. Each state is big enough to have slightly different needs, and a lot of people with fairly different views on how to handle them. It would be pretty hard for a single federal goverment to handle all of the states and make decisions that pleased the population of those states.- You're talking in general. This entire discussion is about laws related to guns specifically. In general, letting each state have its own laws is fine, but things like guns are way too important.- You say that people have different views. So what ? That's true for any place, about any topic, for any population. And yet, there are laws that are common to every state in the entire country, like "slavery is illegal" and other very basic shit. And it still works.
Guns do not constitute as basic shit when it comes to the laws and regulations that surround them. The views are mixed for a lot of things, but they're extremely mixed for gun laws, hence why they're different.
Why though? Why make gun laws different? No state is actually inherently MORE dangerous than others at it's base level. They are in fact dangerous because of their gun laws, not the other way round. There is not some alien race just over the border who want to kill you, you're not at war with the state next door.
