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Titiln

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#141  March 23, 2012, 05:12:09 pm
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#142  March 23, 2012, 05:18:32 pm
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He has been flamebaited in the past but in this most recent incident, he was not. This was nobody's fault but his own.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#143  March 23, 2012, 05:21:45 pm
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ok I think we established at this point that his ban was well deserved. let's talk about this again in a few months or something :)

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#144  March 23, 2012, 05:36:50 pm
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GOH said, March 23, 2012, 04:52:01 pm
Let's unban Maverick after 3 months. If he cools down he stays. If he doesn't we ban him and Gill forever. :ball:

The only reason I agree with this is because of his Grey Fox character. I want it.  ;D

Purple said, March 23, 2012, 05:21:45 pm
ok I think we established at this point that his ban was well deserved. let's talk about this again in a few months or something :)

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#145  March 23, 2012, 06:37:57 pm
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Wow this thread is much better.
Last Edit: August 02, 2015, 04:32:01 pm by Shamrock

Titiln

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#146  March 23, 2012, 06:48:49 pm
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then please tell me who these horrible criminals that should've been permabanned yet are still posting are

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#147  March 23, 2012, 06:53:53 pm
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Shamrock said, March 23, 2012, 06:37:57 pm
Wow this thread is much better than everyone PMing the mods and then going on IRC to bitch about the one mod that someone talked to in a PM.

Should have done this a long time ago.

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Most importantly, this guy attacked creators and creations directly, instead of the usual fuck orochi gill stuff that happens in the all that's left.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#148  March 23, 2012, 07:06:02 pm
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Here I was thinking I piss people off.

I just feel I should set the record straight an apologise for that Ingrid character I insulted.

I think it was created by Crazy Koopa so I owe him the apology.

It isn't fair to insult characters simply based on their original source.

In retrospect I was just insulting the creator in a roundabout way and I don't feel good about doing such a thing to the guy.

Just wanted to get out their and I feel this is as good a place as any.
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#149  March 23, 2012, 07:19:41 pm
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Titiln said, March 23, 2012, 06:48:49 pm
then please tell me who these horrible criminals that should've been permabanned yet are still posting are
I am! :twisted:

Anyways I heard from somewhere that Maverick wants all of his post history and threads to be deleted from this forum and that he is quiting from mugen and that he won't continue or share his creations...
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Shamrock

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#150  March 23, 2012, 07:37:39 pm
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Titiln said, March 23, 2012, 06:48:49 pm
then please tell me who these horrible criminals that should've been permabanned yet are still posting are

Well a number of people on the spilling over thing. I remember porn bombs not being permaban worthy, JZ did that abortion thing to my profile when I was using his image at an avatar, Ash got how many chances?

Those are just off the top of my head.

I mean Titlin do you honestly think that the mods and especially you are consistent in handing out bans? It is subjective as fuck and that is why I say Gill may have a point. You guys have given others chance after chance, and Val's (Paraphrasing), "well he can always beg to come back after time has passed" is something that happens sometimes, but really it shouldn't be the norm.

Again, simply based on the fact that I don't see 10 to 12 fight threads happening and spilling out, should give one a pause about permaban.

I know you don't want to admit to the subjectivity and bias that mods have, but we all did it and is why many don't ban people you have argued with or have a bias against. What I am talking about is the fairness of standards in the bans themselves. Others have more chances and again that is why Gill has a point. He isn't saying the guy didn't fuck up and that something should be done, he is saying that what was done is to0 harsh, and I tend to agree with him because others in the past have been given less for more.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#151  March 23, 2012, 07:48:33 pm
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It is subjective as fuck and that is why I say Gill may have a point.
Assuming there have indeed been inconsistencies, no, Gill doesn't have a point. Yes, the rules are different for everyone. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Maverik doesn't deserve as many chances as he got, there's no way you could question his ban. Gill's main point is that he thinks 3 months should be enough ; as far as I'm concerned I'm 100% convinced it's not, it wouldn't make any difference until Maverik grows capable of reconsidering his entire life.
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I don't see 10 to 12 fight threads happening and spilling out
You're clearly not looking hard enough. I stick to the gaming sections and on far between occasions the WIP and Mugen discussion sections, and I've easily seen big fights with him that were happening in completely different sections. The reason those fights stick to some release, WIP and Graphic sections is simply that Maverik himself seldom goes to any other section, and he targets people he gets pissed at, so of course he doesn't go in completely unrelated sections to drag fights with people that aren't there. The reason you don't see those fights is only that it just so happens that you go to the sections he doesn't go to, and vice-versa. But it doesn't make it any better.
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Last Edit: March 23, 2012, 07:53:00 pm by Byakko

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#152  March 23, 2012, 07:50:09 pm
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Shamrock said, March 23, 2012, 07:37:39 pm
Well a number of people on the spilling over thing. I remember porn bombs not being permaban worthy, JZ did that abortion thing to my profile when I was using his image at an avatar, Ash got how many chances?

Those are just off the top of my head.

I mean Titlin do you honestly think that the mods and especially you are consistent in handing out bans? It is subjective as fuck and that is why I say Gill may have a point. You guys have given others chance after chance, and Val's (Paraphrasing), "well he can always beg to come back after time has passed" is something that happens sometimes, but really it shouldn't be the norm.

Again, simply based on the fact that I don't see 10 to 12 fight threads happening and spilling out, should give one a pause about permaban.

I know you don't want to admit to the subjectivity and bias that mods have, but we all did it and is why many don't ban people you have argued with or have a bias against. What I am talking about is the fairness of standards in the bans themselves. Others have more chances and again that is why Gill has a point. He isn't saying the guy didn't fuck up and that something should be done, he is saying that what was done is to0 harsh, and I tend to agree with him because others in the past have been given less for more.
The guys you mentioned were probably banned only once.

Maverick was banned for a few days, and said he would chill, only to do the same shit again. That's the only reason he's permabanned.

Titiln

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#153  March 23, 2012, 07:51:15 pm
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Shamrock said, March 23, 2012, 07:37:39 pm
I remember porn bombs not being permaban worthy
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JZ did that abortion thing to my profile when I was using his image at an avatar
i don't know what this is about either but i figure he stopped when we asked him to??
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Ash got how many chances?
several, but he wasn't being as big of a shithead as maverik was being. and he's still permabanned

maverik is someone that got several warnings without being banned, staff spent plenty of time trying to show him what he was doing wrong, eventually got banned, his ban expired and now he started doing the same shit again. he displayed that everything we tried to talk to him about was a waste of time. his venomous YALL IS SHIT! IM DA BES attitude regarding the community is far worse in the long run than someone posting goatse or jesuszilla doing that profile thing.

Shamrock

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#154  March 23, 2012, 07:56:27 pm
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 Byakko has a point thought, some are hopeless, the question to you guys is.... Is he truly hopeless or did you lose patience?
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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#155  March 23, 2012, 08:00:31 pm
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I don't think Maverick should be banned forever. I think he should be banned just for a little amount of time until he has a better behavior. I say like 10 or 20 years :P

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#156  March 23, 2012, 08:01:30 pm
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I agree guys, make a compromise and ban him for 20 years only.

Byakko

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#157  March 23, 2012, 08:06:01 pm
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Shamrock said, March 23, 2012, 07:56:27 pm
some are hopeless, the question to you guys is.... Is he truly hopeless or did you lose patience?
Those fights have happened over the course of several months (and that's just what I've seen), with several people, with bans inbetween, over petty shit of various nature (the quality of his work, his opinion on random stuff, his attitude, his knowledge on facts of life, his attempts to "help" people...) (they all pointed back to his view on life that goes like this : "I'm a god") As several staff members have said, a lot of different people have tried in several ways to explain to him that he was doing something very wrong.
Everybody ended up with the same conclusion - fuck it.
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Last Edit: March 23, 2012, 08:09:38 pm by Byakko

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#158  March 23, 2012, 08:10:11 pm
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Meh good bye then.
Last Edit: August 02, 2015, 04:35:12 pm by Shamrock

Titiln

Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#159  March 23, 2012, 08:14:32 pm
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the sonic39262-type bad poster isn't anywhere as harmful to the community as someone like da maverik is. they're just dumb.

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Re: Feedback to Warnings/Decisions
#160  March 23, 2012, 08:22:39 pm
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Shamrock said, March 23, 2012, 07:56:27 pm
Is he truly hopeless or did you lose patience?

someone owes the staff a damn medal for the amount of patience we showed when dealing with maverik

i am legitimately shocked he lasted as long as he did
people who aren't maverik would have been kicked for less in an instant
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