-Cr.Mk comes out 1 frame after Cr.Hk, which it should not
-Cr.Mp comes out 1 frame after Cr.Hp, dont know why you did it like that

-The bandana in the Donkey kick move stays in the air
-Why is the Air light kick a punch?
-One of his intros doesnt have the correct palette

-the hadoken sprite appears behind his hands, move it forward a lil bit

-I dont get the point of the limit breaks using 1 bar but doing more or less hits, depending on what strength punch you press, 3 hits on light, 5 on heavy. But both cost the same amount of power is weird.

What liki123 is talking about is the ticks, start up time of the attack, I forgot to add that to my post

Edit. 1 frame = 1 tick of game time

F.R.O.S.T Hatter said, December 18, 2016, 06:34:01 pm

likiji123 said, December 18, 2016, 07:06:01 am

-Cr.Mk comes out 1 frame after Cr.Hk, which it should not
-Cr.Mp comes out 1 frame after Cr.Hp, dont know why you did it like that

Can you elaborate a bit on what that means? I'm not sure if I understood anything. :/

Do you mean like, when you perform the Cr. HK, Cr.MK skips a frame??? Or is there something I'm missing?

No, what i meant is that Cr.Hk comes out tick 3 while Cr.Mk comes out tick 4, when it should be the opposite.
Which makes Heavy kick come out too fast and medium kick come out too slow
same goes for the punch
(Didnt realize it was called tick instead of frames )

F.R.O.S.T Hatter said, December 18, 2016, 06:34:01 pm

likiji123 said, December 18, 2016, 07:06:01 am

-Why is the Air light kick a punch?

-??? I'm dead certain that the a.LK in the SFA/MvC games is like that for Ryu.

Oh, seems like a strange choice. But if capcom did it like that then its fine

I'd highly appreciate that, I'm really not in the mood for editing any more Ryu sprites.

The FF7 Limit Break bar seems very bland in comparison to what DatKofguy did. :/

That looks great. There's also a bit of a bounce when he lands the punch, and a sudden change of color, but I can fix that easily.

I'll record a video tonight

Spoiler: POTS Juggle (click to see content)

Juggle "resets"

In fighting games, resetting a juggle means hitting an opponent out of the air with a move that makes him land on his feet, for example doing a weak Akuma hurricane kick in SF3 or SF4 and then using a normal attack on the falling opponent.  Again this is something that doesn't happen in Mugen and can't be reproduced by normal means (Hitdef parameters), so to add this feature to your character you can follow this method:

1) For every attack that isn't supposed to make the opponent fall on his back, but rather land on his feet, give its Hitdefs an ID.  I'll be using ID=200 here.

2) Add this code to State -2:


[State -2, P2 Recovery]; Notice how ID 200 is being used. ID must match those Hitdefs
type= targetstate
trigger1= numtarget(200)
trigger1= (target(200), stateno=5020) && (target(200), alive) && (target(200), hitfall); Hit out of the air while alive and already falling
ID= 200
value= 5025
ignorehitpause= 1


3) And create the corresponding State 5025 (or whatever you prefer) of course:


[Statedef 5025]
type= A
physics= N
movetype= H
velset= 0, 0
facep2= 1

[State 5025, HFS]; Resets the fall parameter, so that the opponent will not fall on his back
type= hitfallset
trigger1= 1
value= 0

[State 5025, End]; Sends opponent back to his own states
type= selfstate
trigger1= 1
value= ifelse(pos y, 5020, 5000)

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Juggle "resets" - invulnerability

I wasn't quite sure whether this one should be mentioned, but well since there is one alternative to implementing this that is only one line of code (times N), it should be worth it.  You can plain simply disregard this if your character allows opponents to air guard ground attacks and suffers corner push when hitting them in the air.

When you connect one of those hits that makes the opponent land on his feet, he should be invulnerable until that happens.  Just fire up any SF or KOF game, hit a jumping opponent with a light punch and then try to hit him again as he falls.
There are several ways to implement this in Mugen, but the one most suited for a summarized tutorial consists of making every Hitdef only activate if the opponent isn't in hit states that make him land on his feet.  Like so:


[State 200, Hit]
type= hitdef
trigger1= (p2stateno != [5020, 5040])
trigger1= animelem=3
...


Note: For special and super moves you may want to use just "p2stateno != 5040" instead.  If your ground attacks are set up so that the opponent can guard them in the air then "(p2stateno != [154, 155])" should be added if needed.

It is also a good idea to set air.hittime parameters to a high value so that the opponent cannot hit you back either in these situations.

Just No Point said, January 19, 2016, 11:24:11 pm

So MUGEN's default juggle system is pretty much worthless. POTS left this behind to replace it.

Spoiler: POTS Juggle (click to see content)

Juggle "resets"

In fighting games, resetting a juggle means hitting an opponent out of the air with a move that makes him land on his feet, for example doing a weak Akuma hurricane kick in SF3 or SF4 and then using a normal attack on the falling opponent.  Again this is something that doesn't happen in Mugen and can't be reproduced by normal means (Hitdef parameters), so to add this feature to your character you can follow this method:

1) For every attack that isn't supposed to make the opponent fall on his back, but rather land on his feet, give its Hitdefs an ID.  I'll be using ID=200 here.

2) Add this code to State -2:


[State -2, P2 Recovery]; Notice how ID 200 is being used. ID must match those Hitdefs
type= targetstate
trigger1= numtarget(200)
trigger1= (target(200), stateno=5020) && (target(200), alive) && (target(200), hitfall); Hit out of the air while alive and already falling
ID= 200
value= 5025
ignorehitpause= 1


3) And create the corresponding State 5025 (or whatever you prefer) of course:


[Statedef 5025]
type= A
physics= N
movetype= H
velset= 0, 0
facep2= 1

[State 5025, HFS]; Resets the fall parameter, so that the opponent will not fall on his back
type= hitfallset
trigger1= 1
value= 0

[State 5025, End]; Sends opponent back to his own states
type= selfstate
trigger1= 1
value= ifelse(pos y, 5020, 5000)

This is related to juggling but it's not actually PotS's juggle system. It's also a bit outdated because 1.0 now allows this to be produced with a HitDef parameter; PotS's last big update for his characters for 1.0 removed the old way and added in the new.

Instead of using a target state to force P2 recover, the new HitDef parameter, ForceNoFall, can be used to well... force P2 to not fall. All of the normals in PotS's characters have ForceNoFall = 1 in their respective HitDef's (technically, they have ForceNoFall = !var(20); var(20) is the custom combo timer, and it will disable ForceNoFall if active).

Just No Point said, January 19, 2016, 11:24:11 pm

Spoiler: Juggle "resets" - invulnerability (click to see content)

Juggle "resets" - invulnerability

I wasn't quite sure whether this one should be mentioned, but well since there is one alternative to implementing this that is only one line of code (times N), it should be worth it.  You can plain simply disregard this if your character allows opponents to air guard ground attacks and suffers corner push when hitting them in the air.

When you connect one of those hits that makes the opponent land on his feet, he should be invulnerable until that happens.  Just fire up any SF or KOF game, hit a jumping opponent with a light punch and then try to hit him again as he falls.
There are several ways to implement this in Mugen, but the one most suited for a summarized tutorial consists of making every Hitdef only activate if the opponent isn't in hit states that make him land on his feet.  Like so:


[State 200, Hit]
type= hitdef
trigger1= (p2stateno != [5020, 5040])
trigger1= animelem=3
...


Note: For special and super moves you may want to use just "p2stateno != 5040" instead.  If your ground attacks are set up so that the opponent can guard them in the air then "(p2stateno != [154, 155])" should be added if needed.

It is also a good idea to set air.hittime parameters to a high value so that the opponent cannot hit you back either in these situations.

This however is still in use, after a fashion. It's simplified down to a juggle flag variable (0 = off/can juggle; 1 = flag on/can't juggle). It should be noted that the juggle flag is distinct from the juggle points in PotS characters, though!

For Piccolo I made a simple one that is kinda similar to MUGEN's default

This is in my attacks
[State 0, VarAdd]
type = VarAdd
trigger1 = MoveHit = 1
trigger1 = P2StateType = A
var(18) = 7; adjust to determine how many juggle points it should have

Hitdef
type = HitDef
triggerall = Var(18) <= 15; adjust for how many points it'll allow

place the below in your -2 so the var resets when P2 is no longer in hit state
[State -2, VarSet]
type = VarSet
trigger1 = P2MoveType != H
var(18) = 0

to apply to helpers remember to do this


This is in my attacks
[State 0, ParentVarAdd]
type = ParentVarAdd
trigger1 = MoveHit = 1
trigger1 = P2StateType = A
var(18) = 7; adjust to determine how many juggle points it should have

Hitdef
type = HitDef
triggerall = root,Var(18) <= 15; adjust for how many points it'll allow

Posting to report that Ryu's been released, so go check him out:

CvSE Release Thread riight over here, matey.

;Reset Juggle
[State -2, VarSet]
type = VarSet
trigger1 = P2MoveType != H || P2StateNo = (insert Dizzy State # here)
var(7) = 0

Hm. Now I wonder what changed the roster this time.

Anywho, good to see that you're making some progress with this, if even a little. The mechanics with the crystals sounds interesting though and could easily work if you know how to handle the way infinity stones worked.

I'll have that taken care of soon.

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Taking a slightly small break from character coding to work on the Training Stage. I'm using the Dong Dong Never Die training stage (-Whiplash-'s edit of MaxBeta's stage) as a basis.

Dropping by to say that Alena's now ready for beta-testing. I'll drop a video and a download link in the release thread tomorrow.