I agree, it seems unnecessary to include characters that have no preexisting legacy of their own. It's not Smash's job to make icons out of obscure characters.Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Falcon got the anime. Where do you think the Falcon Punch came from? The same place Reflector did?Surprised you didn't say Game and Watch. He's... A gray area though. Not really a true character before Melee, but not complete BS either...
MR. IBZS II said, May 26, 2018, 12:26:24 amFalcon got the anime. Where do you think the Falcon Punch came from? The same place Reflector did?Actually yes.The original Smash Bros came before the F-Zero anime.
MR. IBZS II said, May 26, 2018, 12:26:24 amFalcon got the anime. Where do you think the Falcon Punch came from? The same place Reflector did?Super Smash Bros. original Japanese release date: January 21, 1999.F-Zero: GP Legend anime original premiere date: October 7, 2003.Swing and a miss.
MR. IBZS II said, May 26, 2018, 12:26:24 amWhere do you think the Falcon Punch came from? Sakurai's ass.Either way my point stands. Smash Bros is not just there to give you your favorites, it's also there for Nintendo to promote less famous characters. I used Falcon as an example because he was a literal nobody before Smash 64.
Duos.act said, May 26, 2018, 02:04:35 amEither way my point stands. Smash Bros is not just there to give you your favorites, it's also there for Nintendo to promote less famous characters. I used Falcon as an example because he was a literal nobody before Smash 64.Fire Emblem became a massive hit in the west because of Smash, so yeah good point.
I would say F-Zero owes no small amount of its popularity to Captain Falcon's presence in Smash Bros. Pretty much his entire persona came from the way he's portrayed in those games. You could easily make the case that the story mode for GX and pretty much the entire anime would not be the way that they are if not for Smash turning him into a toku hero back when his only traits were being a bounty hunter that also races. Kid Icarus is the same way, Pit had literally zero personality until Brawl brought him in as a goofball kid hero and then we got Uprising out of that. Smash Bros pretty much gives these characters a chance to get a new lease on life. And even so, like it or not, these guys are a part of Nintendo's history. They may not be doing Mario or Pokemon sales numbers, but they're irreplacable nonetheless.
F0X would have still done very well with or without Smash 64. Smash most likely helped shed more light on GX and the original, but X was considered yet another 64 classic.
Duos.act said, May 26, 2018, 02:04:35 amMR. IBZS II said, May 26, 2018, 12:26:24 amWhere do you think the Falcon Punch came from? Sakurai's ass.Either way my point stands. Smash Bros is not just there to give you your favorites, it's also there for Nintendo to promote less famous characters. I used Falcon as an example because he was a literal nobody before Smash 64.The same can be said for Ness. Earthbound wouldnt be a cult classic if he wasn’t included in 64 or Melee.
That's not what cult classic meansIf you want to argue there'd be no Mother 3 without it you'd probably be right
MR. IBZS II said, May 25, 2018, 11:37:14 pmWaluigi is nothing more than a meme choice, that's the thing. Even Goku has more solidity than him, due to his history and anime icon status. Waluigi doesn't have any oomph, any character, any real anything in any Mario game backing him like... Even Rosalina? Rosalina at least had a story. All Waluigi has is a random Mario Kart stage. If Sakurai were smart, he'd make a Waluigi Pinball stage to cash in on the meme.Ice Climbers are a legacy in what? Smash? Certainly not their original and only game. Balloon Fight is the cult classic, and we already got a trash stage off of it.Sakurai can like Castlevania as much as he wants, it means nothing if Konami won't reply or deny.Cloud and Bayonetta wrecked the meta enough. Ridley would be the giant baby that would destroy the womb that is Smash, I guess.It's the fifth game in the series, dude. I think it's time to start adding obscure and minor characters such as Waluigi and whomever, because who else is there left?
Japanese Jesus said, May 27, 2018, 04:36:23 pmMR. IBZS II said, May 25, 2018, 11:37:14 pmWaluigi is nothing more than a meme choice, that's the thing. Even Goku has more solidity than him, due to his history and anime icon status. Waluigi doesn't have any oomph, any character, any real anything in any Mario game backing him like... Even Rosalina? Rosalina at least had a story. All Waluigi has is a random Mario Kart stage. If Sakurai were smart, he'd make a Waluigi Pinball stage to cash in on the meme.Ice Climbers are a legacy in what? Smash? Certainly not their original and only game. Balloon Fight is the cult classic, and we already got a trash stage off of it.Sakurai can like Castlevania as much as he wants, it means nothing if Konami won't reply or deny.Cloud and Bayonetta wrecked the meta enough. Ridley would be the giant baby that would destroy the womb that is Smash, I guess.It's the fifth game in the series, dude. I think it's time to start adding obscure and minor characters such as Waluigi and whomever, because who else is there left?Pink Gold Peach*runs*
Rai Tei said, May 28, 2018, 12:59:59 pmLet's add another swordsman and have those already complaining, complain even more! no lets add another bayonetta character that no one wanted
At this point, the only thing that would disappoint me in terms of character additions is if the new characters don't revolve around a special mechanic or playstyle that makes them unique. Smash 4 set the bar pretty high by having nearly every newcomer have one of those, with Mac's power meter, Rosa's Luma, Shulk's stances, etc. The character itself could be anyone, and I'd be fine as long as they've got something really cool going for them in their gameplay.
Neo_Fire_Sonic said, May 28, 2018, 06:36:46 pmRai Tei said, May 28, 2018, 12:59:59 pmLet's add another swordsman and have those already complaining, complain even more! no lets add another bayonetta character that no one wantedRight, that character that no one wanted that won a popularity contest spanning every video game character to ever appear on a Nintendo console.
The one that was chosen out of 3 popularity contest winners because one was most likely a meme or joke, and the other was a singing robot schoolgirl.