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Title: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on July 11, 2016, 07:34:16 am
Hello, I'm just checking the topics, but as a thunder a great idea came to my mind, to redesign the Lifebar and then to make some Lifebar Portraits, for Single might be a la KOF XIV/2000 (but a Custom Style, not necessarily the 2000 Style), for the Simul and Turns, it might be the VS Screen Portrait (only the eyes and face, with name), that my idea....

And, what do you think about it?


Since some months and weeks ago I've planed to redesign the Lifebar with @City_Hunter: and me, so I think you guys you can choose on which Style do you like your favorite characters, so I feel the KOF 2000 Battle Portraits are fitting for this:

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s396/RockHoward2012/KOFE-LifebarConcept5_ver2000faces.png)

Here there are some Battle Portraits:

(http://orig01.deviantart.net/7f76/f/2016/301/7/4/hanzo_shiranui_kof_2000_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-daldqso.gif)   (http://orig13.deviantart.net/f20d/f/2016/301/8/1/richard_meyer_kof_2000_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-dals8mt.gif)   (http://rockhowardmx.mugenimperiolatino.com/KOF-SpRes/NeoDio-KOF2000Fight_FixTatsu_original.gif) (Remake from Tatsu Original)   (http://rockhowardmx.mugenimperiolatino.com/KOF-SpRes/Nakoruru-KOF2000Fight.gif)

More to come...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on July 11, 2016, 07:37:35 am
what kind of lifebars are you guys looking for? I might be able to do something
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on July 11, 2016, 07:42:56 am
Well, something like KOF XIV/2000 Hybrid, Green Bar with a Some Spiky Mask Style, like KOF '99 to fit the Portraits...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on July 11, 2016, 07:49:21 am
Alright il try something tomorrow
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: swipergod on July 12, 2016, 05:18:44 am
Ok, I'll wait and see what you guys come up with. Cheers.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on July 12, 2016, 11:34:32 pm
Only the base for the moment just to get it right
(http://i.imgur.com/L41O66O.png)
not really sure on the portrait box
feedback is welcome
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Metal Warrior on July 12, 2016, 11:41:19 pm
A different lifebar can be a cool idea. I'll try something when i finish some sprites.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on July 12, 2016, 11:43:13 pm
Alright really want to see your version
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Bioluminescence on July 13, 2016, 12:37:20 am
City_Hunter said, July 12, 2016, 11:34:32 pm
Only the base for the moment just to get it right
(http://i.imgur.com/L41O66O.png)
not really sure on the portrait box
feedback is welcome

I don't like the protruding part, would prefer if it were fang-like or just not there.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: aznpikachu215 on July 17, 2016, 09:41:08 pm
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JhnjtXlEF_4/U4QOFD8D4VI/AAAAAAAAAfU/V1A90wp9I8c/s1600/kof+wing+2013s5.png)

How about lifebars like that?
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on July 17, 2016, 11:29:01 pm
I'm all for adding KOF 2000 styled lifebar icons as well, especially since someone (Tatsu, I think it was?) made plenty of icons for many other characters in the style.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: lui on July 18, 2016, 09:02:40 am
yes it was tatsu
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on August 13, 2016, 03:44:56 am
Hello, everybody, I took me less than an hour, but I have for you what kind of lifebar it'll be...I've based on @City_Hunter's Lifebar Concept

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s396/RockHoward2012/KOFE-LifebarConcept.png)

Any suggestion, reply, or feedback is welcome...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on August 13, 2016, 03:57:31 am
nice alot better than anything I could have come out with
Maybe removing the black border for something else might look better
great job
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on August 13, 2016, 04:19:29 am
In which part should I remove the Black Border?
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: swipergod on August 16, 2016, 06:27:07 am
Hello. I'm watching this topic, but haven't yet shared anything in terms of feedback. I'm not sure yet what I'm really looking for, so I wanted to see more what others were looking for. A "metal" like border wouldn't be bad. I also would recommend a different kind of shading to avoid black-ish like shadow. Dark green to light green. Could also experiment with how the shading works (rounded vs top/bottom). Sorry, these are just scattered thoughts so far. Give me a bit more time. In the meantime, keep on showcasing ideas. :)
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on August 17, 2016, 05:11:10 am
Hi, @swipergod:, I've re-done the concept, some metalish border, added KOF-ish Shadows into the "TIME" Word, an some other stuff added, like Player No. and the Beta font Design, hope you like it:

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s396/RockHoward2012/KOFE-LifebarConcept-Ver2.png)

Any better? Feedbacks are welcome...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on August 17, 2016, 05:43:29 am
This is alot better. I think the name should be on top
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on August 17, 2016, 06:09:21 am
It can or cannot be, if name should be on top, there wouldn't be a possible way to fit the Portraits, so I prefer it below, as on Traditional KOF's, so I leave a 90° Line for the icons of Victory and Up to...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on August 23, 2016, 12:55:07 am
Alright here my try using RockHowardMX version as a base
(http://i.imgur.com/Vx4hQxD.png)
Any chance you could use this one as a base?

Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on August 23, 2016, 03:49:18 am
Ok how does this look
(http://i.imgur.com/OrofZI7.png)
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on August 23, 2016, 04:24:24 am
With portrait
(http://i.imgur.com/HAD1jFo.png)
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on August 24, 2016, 06:33:24 am
Based on mine, huh, @City_Hunter:? What a great surprise, but you've removed the "TIME" word, and we could think you to Portrait every character...

We could do a collaboration, me with the Portraits and you with the Lifebar, And not forgetting we've based one each other...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: GTOAkira on August 24, 2016, 06:45:15 am
Sure a collab would be cool
How do you think the portrait should look?
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on August 24, 2016, 06:47:03 am
A KOF XIV - 2000 Hybrid, just leave it to me, I have scratches I've done in home, I'll show some them one of these days, colleague...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on September 11, 2016, 11:14:44 pm
Just here thinking about how the Portraits may look like, but it's merely an Hybrid of XIV - 2000 Style (well, almost), but here it is the Progress of the Lifebar Concept:

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s396/RockHoward2012/KOFE-LifebarConcept-Ver3.png)

Any feedback is welcome, about the Portraits, lemme do the Sketches again for letting you know how the Character may look...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on September 12, 2016, 05:41:15 pm
To be honest, I really don't see the need to make entirely new lifebar portaits. I would if they were something unique that didn't have anything similar done before, but the layout right now looks like you could just put the KOF 2000 or 2002 lifebar icons in there and no one would argue with you.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Retro Respecter on September 13, 2016, 02:12:23 am
Motor Roach is right. Those do not look good.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on September 13, 2016, 02:29:35 am
Oh, well, the Portrait Stuff was only a Test, anyway I forgot to do the Portraits Sketches... But maybe you're right, I'll test the Lifebar Concept with KOF 2000 or 2002 Portraits to see what does it results, thanks you the feedbacks, guys...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on October 07, 2016, 05:21:37 am
Hello, everybody, since some days I didn't posted anything here, I'll leave two soups:

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s396/RockHoward2012/KOFE-LifebarConcept4_ver2000faces.png)

Or:

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s396/RockHoward2012/KOFE-LifebarConcept4_ver2002faces.png)

KOF 2000 and 2002 Portraits adapting the Lifebar Concept, any feedback is welcome...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Retro Respecter on October 07, 2016, 07:19:29 am
You may want to make the font more visible by adding a black background.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on October 07, 2016, 04:20:38 pm
Or a black outline. Either way, it looks good with either portraits.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on October 08, 2016, 05:19:41 am
Well, not the black line, but traditonal ones like in any KOF whose had that Font Style, and here they are:

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s396/RockHoward2012/KOFE-LifebarConcept5_ver2000faces.png)

and

(http://i1049.photobucket.com/albums/s396/RockHoward2012/KOFE-LifebarConcept5_ver2002faces.png)

As usual, any feedback is welcome...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on October 08, 2016, 08:14:01 am
That actually looks pretty good. Looking at it again, I think the 2000 portraits go along this lifebar the best, given it's thin size.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Retro Respecter on October 09, 2016, 02:20:07 am
I vote for the KoF 2002 portraits.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on October 17, 2016, 04:54:42 am
Well, here I leave ya the (Future Character) Hanzo Shiranui Portrait at KOF 2000 Style, as @MotorRoach: said the KOF 2000 would fit better on the Lifebar we made @City_Hunter: and me:

(http://orig01.deviantart.net/7f76/f/2016/301/7/4/hanzo_shiranui_kof_2000_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-daldqso.gif)

Any feedback is welcome...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Melcore on October 17, 2016, 07:43:46 am
wow that actually looks pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Flowrellik on October 17, 2016, 07:48:33 am
I vote for KOF2000 style. It very much grew on me + I can see it benefit the neogeo feel of the game.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on October 18, 2016, 04:54:14 am
Added a Poll, for voting on which Portrait Style do you like to see on KOF E.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Retro Respecter on October 18, 2016, 06:09:15 am
I say go for KoF 2003.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on October 18, 2016, 06:37:52 am
The KOF 2003 Portraits are already there, as the Player Select ones...I saw on the Poll, KOF 2002 Portraits on there? But I feel more fitting the KOF 2000 ones, dunno how about you...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on October 21, 2016, 03:32:51 am
Hello everybody, here I leave to y'all something Special, enjoy this listening to ♪Halema Kyou Capoeira Tatakai no Uta/Halema School of Capoeira Battle Song, with:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Any feedback is welcome as usual...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on October 27, 2016, 08:58:37 pm
And I quote:

"Pathetic! Pathetic, pathetic, PATHETIC!! You're totally unworthy of the Space you take!"

(http://rockhowardmx.mugenimperiolatino.com/KOF-SpRes/NeoDio-KOF2000Fight_FixTatsu_original.gif)

This Portrait was original from Tatsu, but I've fixed it, making him look more Neo-Dio than he looked on the original One, I might say the Original Portrait was a crap, but anyway, any feedbacks are welcome as usual...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on October 28, 2016, 12:41:25 am
It would help to give feedback if you also had the original portrait from Tatsu in your post.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on October 28, 2016, 02:13:30 am
Oops, that would be a little difficult, because I've edited said Portrait and I didn't copy-pasted the "Before" apart from...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on November 07, 2016, 04:01:13 am
And I quotes:

"This is the punishment of nature."

(http://rockhowardmx.mugenimperiolatino.com/KOF-SpRes/Nakoruru-KOF2000Fight.gif)

Yup, our favorite Ainu Priestess is here, as long as nobody has done a KOF 2000 Battle Portrait of Her, not even Tatsu himself, well, thoughts?

Any feedback is welcome, and keep voting on which Portrait Style do you choose, read ya!!
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on November 07, 2016, 01:18:57 pm
RockHowardMX said, November 07, 2016, 04:01:13 am
And I quotes:
as long as nobody has done a KOF 2000 Battle Portrait of Her, not even Tatsu himself

(http://i.imgur.com/iZOQ1vS.png)

And frankly, Tatsu's Nakoruru looks more in style. The hair looks refined and accurate to how Nakoruru is usually drawn.

Also, there's an archive with (most of) Tatsu's portraits. It just doesn't includes his Neo Dio, so someone might want to ask him for that: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/217482809198116865/245156209781506048/Portraits.rar
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Melcore on November 07, 2016, 07:57:21 pm
yeah they do look pretty great, that should cut down on creation time... best quality in an open source community.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on November 07, 2016, 10:31:28 pm
So, did Tatsu already made a Nakoruru Portrait? Oh, crap... Gonna see if you guys would you like to watch some characters on KOF 2002 Battle Portraits... But, oh well...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on December 26, 2016, 05:04:29 am
Hello, everybody, as I see you prefer more the 2002 Ones (I don't know why, please tell me, all and each who had chosen that Style...) I decide to make a Portrait for not leaving you a bitter taste, and here it is:

(http://orig15.deviantart.net/cfc9/f/2016/360/3/9/hanzo_shiranui_kof_2002_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-dat0byh.gif)

Any feedbacks are welcome, some thoughts? For the missing Portraits...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Retro Respecter on January 16, 2017, 05:32:08 pm
According to the polls, it looks to be a tie between KoF 2000 and KoF 2002.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on January 28, 2017, 03:58:58 am
Here I leave another KOF 2002 Styled Battle Portrait, it's Oswald Karnoffel's(?) Turn:

(http://orig12.deviantart.net/c243/f/2017/027/9/5/oswald_karnoffel_kof_2002_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-dawyn8b.gif)

And here it's Neo-Dio on said Style:

(http://orig05.deviantart.net/a5c8/f/2017/027/1/0/neo_dio_kof_2002_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-dawysol.gif)

I feel I've exagerated his Flesh-like face...dunno ya...

Any other that remains to do? A re-costume Portrait, just in case? Any feedback is welcome...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on January 28, 2017, 04:45:20 am
Being honest, the Neo Dio portrait is very messy. It doesn't has a solid shading like all the other portraits does, and instead, the shading on his face is all weird and random. It just looks bad to look at.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on January 28, 2017, 04:46:44 am
I knew I've exagerated to his face, so, I leave you the Faces Fixing, and more Portraits to come...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on January 29, 2017, 06:50:55 pm
That's your work, not mine. Instead of hoping for someone else to come and fix it for you, do it yourself and try to learn something from it. I already got enough work on my shoulders to worry about.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Retro Respecter on January 29, 2017, 07:49:27 pm
Ouch! So much for that avenue.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: 2Dee4ever on January 29, 2017, 09:00:50 pm
RockHowardMX said, January 28, 2017, 03:58:58 am
Here I leave another KOF 2002 Styled Battle Portrait, it's Oswald Karnoffel's(?) Turn:

(http://orig12.deviantart.net/c243/f/2017/027/9/5/oswald_karnoffel_kof_2002_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-dawyn8b.gif)
Could use this as a base?
(http://i.imgur.com/EDaOWcE.png)
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on January 30, 2017, 04:38:18 am
For trying to complete the KOF 2000 one, or for adapting the KOF 2002 one?
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on January 30, 2017, 02:37:45 pm
I would say using it as reference for the 2002 one.

Then again, I think it would be the best if swiper could confirm which style he would use for the game.
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: swipergod on January 31, 2017, 03:50:06 am
I prefer 2000, but I'd say play to your strengths. Why not take one character and show off a few different styles and let people help point you to the style that is strongest for you. Try a trickier character like Elisabeth and see what you can pull off. :)
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on February 02, 2017, 04:35:58 am
ReixSeiryu said, January 29, 2017, 09:00:50 pm
Could use this as a base?
(http://i.imgur.com/EDaOWcE.png)

Oswald updated as the reference given:

(http://orig03.deviantart.net/5641/f/2017/032/0/3/oswald_karnoffel_kof_2002_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-dawyn8b.gif)

And, here I do a Test to prove if you would like to see a New Style, as Swipergod told me to...

(http://orig13.deviantart.net/3f38/f/2017/032/3/7/elisabeth_blanctorche_kof_e_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-daxk8a3.gif)

Thoughts? Any feedback is welcome as usual...
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: Bioluminescence on February 02, 2017, 06:40:14 am
It's a nice start, but the face still needs alot of work
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: 2Dee4ever on February 03, 2017, 04:05:07 am
Elizabeth
(http://i.imgur.com/ahZI2G0.png)
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: MotorRoach on February 03, 2017, 01:58:54 pm
I'll be honest in here, MX, and it might sound rude, but I need to get that cleared out. It doesn't really feels like you're trying. A good portion of your attempts so far feel like you only intended to make the portraits slightly resemble the character you're spriting, rather than going all the way and polishing said portraits and making sure to look up reference to see if it fully matches the design of the 2002 portraits and the character you're making. That Elizabeth you made just barely resembles the design you were spriting, her hair is a complete mess, and her jaw is incredibly large and pointy.

To add to that, she's all outlined, for god knows what reason... oh wait, you're trying to make a "new" style. Let me just put it like this, buddy. This "new" style of yours isn't working. It's basically the same thing as the 2002 portraits, except it looks more unappealing. Like, seriously, compare these:

(http://i.imgur.com/QdefbhK.gif)

To what you're doing:

(http://orig13.deviantart.net/3f38/f/2017/032/3/7/elisabeth_blanctorche_kof_e_battle_face_by_rockhowardmx-daxk8a3.gif)

It's a serious visual downgrade, and you're doing it just because you want to make something "new" that looks about the same but worse. You want to create a new style? That's fine, that's how NEW things are made. But you should at least get a better grasp at spriting the normal KOF portraits if you want to understand what makes them work  and what makes the character designs look appealing to the eye to begin with, and you shouldn't use this project as an excuse for your new style experiments. If you're going to contribute to this project, then don't try to twist the direction it's going to.

TL;DR: Use reference, and forget the whole "new" style idea.

EDIT: Just found out that some remake of SVP Infinity has a lifebar portrait for Elizabeth. You might want to use that at least for reference:

(http://i.imgur.com/e7Fcuxd.png)
Title: Re: Lifebar Portraits
Post by: RockHowardMX on February 07, 2018, 02:37:48 am
Thought I gave up on this? Just took a great huge hiatus of this kind of portrait, I guess, but I'm coming back to this giving y'all a bit of Michael Max into KOF 2000 Portrait Style:

(https://orig00.deviantart.net/f7a7/f/2018/037/7/9/michael_max_kof_2000_lifebar_portrait_by_rockhowardmx-dc2e76q.gif)

Feedback are welcome, as usual...