Just something I've been thinking for a while. Many veteran creators quit, there has been an increase in "lazy" content and great/worthwhile stuff is very few and far between.New veterans will be made.
i dont really think so, i mean alot of releases still get about 10,000 plus views here atleast and more at other forums. I'd like to think its the lack of newer spritesets for newer chars to be made.I agree what prime says about the sprite sheets
Have we hit a wall as far as creative content goes? Is it time for a new engine to emerge and take it's place? Am I just overthinking stuff?No, i mean, i think what we need is mugen 1.2 or some shit, adding at least customizable options menu, some characters not literally being selectable by human players, not just hidden off screen, having the option of not letting certain characters being on survival, etc...
Just something I've been thinking for a while. Many veteran creators quit, there has been an increase in "lazy" content and great/worthwhile stuff is very few and far between.Veterans dropping out of a hobby is normal for any hobby or industry. As time goes on, people change and they drop out or come in from other hobbies. As for myself, I have been around MUGEN for at least 11 years (according to my Youtube channel's videos). Compared to many people here, I am ancient and, to my admission, have not done any MUGEN development at all in the recent years.
Have we hit a wall as far as creative content goes? Is it time for a new engine to emerge and take it's place? Am I just overthinking stuff?
Alot of the old veterans probably finally moved out
of moms basement, got girlfriends and got introduced
to cutty and made families.
If you don't know from personal experience...its extremely
hard to have a girlfriend/relationship and still have time
for mugen.
All my GF's ive had since ive been into mugen have fucking
hated it with a passion, arguments happen lol because they
feel like they don't get enough attention N shit.
The times ive been most active are when I'm single and have
all day to do what I want.
Real life happens and that's why people just disappear.
Forums in general are a dying breed. Not just MUGEN forums. There are too many alternatives that are faster. Since I joined the HDBZ and MFG discord my presence here has drastically reduced. Now the forum is really only good to archive stuff. If I need help or want to talk code or whatever I chat in real time.
Combine that with how much of a niche 2d fighters even are. Then how much of a niche oldschool games like we make are now. Then on top of that how many newer people would be interested enough to devote their time to this stuff when most of it took place before they were born and could grow up with passion for these kinds of games.
And on top of that MUGEN has no online so even if you make something cool you won't be playing it with your peers here. You'll have to also have friends IRL that'd be into all the above things.
AND it's a long dead program with a ton of issues and no support.
The times ive been most active are when I'm single and have
all day to do what I want.
Real life happens and that's why people just disappear.
Reading all this it sounds more like its not mugen thats showing its age, its us lol.
Dude, have you seen the listed ages in our MUGEN profiles?!Haha yea man i just turned 31 - all us 25+ peepz are the age group lucky to have arcades growing up - my best memories of my childhood & why i luv fighting games.
Many of us are nearing 30 years old, with quite a few of us already past that and soaring towards 40 years!
I still get id'd whenever I need to and people always act surprised when I tell them how old I really am.
For me, this conscious obsession began in 2001 and now, seventeen years (a chunk of which was rife with mistakes and embarrassment) later, I find myself with a renewed sense of interest in Mugen, beat 'em ups and fighting games as a whole. I've nearly come full circle in this community, and I've many of you (veterans and newcomers alike) to thank for such a turnabout. :joy:you are the legendary Mature4ever then?....i want to see more from you..
As a program of specialized functionality, Mugen does indeed show its age. As a source of inspiration, however, it does not.
the time went into making tons of ryu, kyo, ken and akuma edits
this is what we wasted years of our lives on, what a world
the time went into making tons of ryu, kyo, ken and akuma edits
this is what we wasted years of our lives on, what a world
Yes it's boring seeing so many Street Fighter and King of Fighters. We still don't have all the Aquapazza and Nitroplus Blasterz Heroines Infinite Duel characters because those two are unpopular niche games, let alone source accurate ones.
I feel it's too late for that. I would had made them if the only thing I was doing was mugen which was in 2015. But during that time I was more interested in fighting hard AI than learning how to code. Right now I'm playing so many other games and don't use mugen 24/7 like I use to and I heard making a character is hard. Are we ever gonna get a RGB method tutorial in video form? Every tutorial I found don't explain everything.the time went into making tons of ryu, kyo, ken and akuma edits
this is what we wasted years of our lives on, what a world
Yes it's boring seeing so many Street Fighter and King of Fighters. We still don't have all the Aquapazza and Nitroplus Blasterz Heroines Infinite Duel characters because those two are unpopular niche games, let alone source accurate ones.
Make em then
I feel it's too late for that. I would had made them if the only thing I was doing was mugen which was in 2015. But during that time I was more interested in fighting hard AI than learning how to code. Right now I'm playing so many other games and don't use mugen 24/7 like I use to and I heard making a character is hard. Are we ever gonna get a RGB method tutorial in video form? Every tutorial I found don't explain everything.the time went into making tons of ryu, kyo, ken and akuma edits
this is what we wasted years of our lives on, what a world
Yes it's boring seeing so many Street Fighter and King of Fighters. We still don't have all the Aquapazza and Nitroplus Blasterz Heroines Infinite Duel characters because those two are unpopular niche games, let alone source accurate ones.
Make em then
Reading all this it sounds more like its not mugen thats showing its age, its us lol.
I just said the other day I'm sticking around at least until you finish Nightwing :P
If that happen (mugen dies)..I will blame idiots like tanicfan..they deserves NEVER touched mugen...I'm not sure why you're calling out a random user for seemingly no reason, but it doesn't really matter how good of a reason you thought you had. Don't do it again.
because I seen some people quit or never touch mugen again after seeing/playing with his abominations...I said a friend about mugen then pick Mario and Bowser "made" by him,then was fucking horrible worst than shit, thanks to that many other thinks mugen sucks because those "creators"If that happen (mugen dies)..I will blame idiots like tanicfan..they deserves NEVER touched mugen...I'm not sure why you're calling out a random user for seemingly no reason, but it doesn't really matter how good of a reason you thought you had. Don't do it again.
Just because you went once to a bad restaurant and got food poisoning, doesn't mean you should stop eating and starve to death...
Don't try to make a drama where there is none
because I seen some people quit or never touch mugen again after seeing/playing with his abominations...I said a friend about mugen then pick Mario and Bowser "made" by him,then was fucking horrible worst than shit, thanks to that many other thinks mugen sucks because those "creators"I'll be more clear, because you seem to be confused as to what my post was about. I am not asking you to explain why you think you are totally justified in slagging a random person, completely unprompted. I am telling you, as a moderator, not to do something like this again.
Just because you went once to a bad restaurant and got food poisoning, doesn't mean you should stop eating and starve to death...not really..and at youtube are many videos related to those "creations"...I don't like the fact they waste mugen when they would learn and create good things...
Don't try to make a drama where there is none
Just because you went once to a bad restaurant and got food poisoning, doesn't mean you should stop eating and starve to death...not really..and at youtube are many videos related to those "creations"...I don't like the fact they waste mugen when they would learn and create good things...
Don't try to make a drama where there is none
XNAMugen WAS a thing. SofiyaCat sadly dropped it to make a VirtualBoy emulator for PSP.You mean InfinityCat. :P
SofiyaCat sadly dropped it to make a VirtualBoy emulator for PSP.what
Well most problems start with the toxic
I shit you not (http://psp.scenebeta.com/noticia/red-dragon)A youtube player at least is practical in some level, as in "a non-trivial amount of people will use this".
oh and a YouTube viewer (http://psp-news.dcemu.co.uk/psptube-updated-09-09-2007-watch-youtube-on-your-psp-73499.html)
in short you can watch YouTube poop while playing Wario Land (because what the fuck else would you play on Virtual Boy)