The Mugen Fighters Guild
Art & Entertainment => Graphics => Topic started by: Gaiash on November 19, 2007, 11:42:08 pm
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Quite recently I started work on sprites of Ash Ketchum (Satoshi) from Pokemon Advanced Generation. These may become a Mugen character if I manage to create enough sprites. The sprites I have made all have purposes in the event of becoming a WIP.
Please note I am new to large sprites and I suck at shading so they won't all be perfect. There are a few I plan on editing as I improve. Anyway here are the sprites.
(http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/1080/ashtl0.png)
This is the Ash image that I made first. Its base was actually from a Diamond and Pearl anime screenshot where I had to alter his outfit quite abit.
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/6669/ashvictorygy4.png)
This one is for victories, the Pokeball is actually from Fire Red/Leaf Green but the rest of the sprite is mine.
(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2674/ashpunchma2.png)
And heres the first punch. This one require alot of editing as its base was a screenshot from the first movie plus I needed a new stance for his legs. It still needs work in my opinion but I think I will wait until I have made more sprites first.
(http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9076/ashpunchupvn6.png)
Another punch, this is probably one of my best sprites so far.
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8341/ashjumppunchuplx3.png)
This is the newest punch sprite. Similar to the previous but jumping.
(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2909/ashblockzr0.png)
This is one of my favorates. It'll probably be for blocking.
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/848/ashdpcolorsyg2.png)
If this ever did become a Mugen character this would be an alternate color set.
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Hm..his face needs work, You can't really see his nose and the shading isn't too good.
The Legs need shading.
There are also random pixels on his head, arms and shirt..it looks like you recolored an image of Ash.
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nice, the improvement to come wouldn't be that much of a deal (it wouldn't be that hard to improve it) since it has a good basis
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Hm..his face needs work, You can't really see his nose and the shading isn't too good.
The Legs need shading.
There are also random pixels on his head, arms and shirt..it looks like you recolored an image of Ash.
Did you read the topic at all. I stated quite clearly that
1) I suck at shading
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2) This is my first time making large sprites
Also I didn't recolor, I used screenshots as bases for the sprites. Maybe if you read the post rather than just look at the images without thinking.
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Too be quit honest it's not bad for your first large sprites.
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I like that.. ;)
Can you have do an Ash with the old clothes?......
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Hm..his face needs work, You can't really see his nose and the shading isn't too good.
The Legs need shading.
There are also random pixels on his head, arms and shirt..it looks like you recolored an image of Ash.
Did you read the topic at all. I stated quite clearly that
1) I suck at shading
and
2) This is my first time making large sprites
Also I didn't recolor, I used screenshots as bases for the sprites. Maybe if you read the post rather than just look at the images without thinking.
I did read your post..and you can always just fix the errors..how about reading a shading tut?
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nice.... he looks spot on however if you were to make these sprites for mugen wouldn't you have his face sideways... ?
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I like that.. ;)
Can you have do an Ash with the old clothes?......
Maybe, you know in a way these are his old clothes too since hes wearing a different outfit in Diamond and Pearl.
Hm..his face needs work, You can't really see his nose and the shading isn't too good.
The Legs need shading.
There are also random pixels on his head, arms and shirt..it looks like you recolored an image of Ash.
Did you read the topic at all. I stated quite clearly that
1) I suck at shading
and
2) This is my first time making large sprites
Also I didn't recolor, I used screenshots as bases for the sprites. Maybe if you read the post rather than just look at the images without thinking.
I did read your post..and you can always just fix the errors..how about reading a shading tut?
And I will, when I improve. What I was saying is that you were telling me things I already know.
nice.... he looks spot on however if you were to make these sprites for mugen wouldn't you have his face sideways... ?
Maybe, however I've seen some mugen character that aren't sideways. When he walks I will definatly have him facing sideways.
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Can you release him as a beta? :angel:
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Can you release him as a beta? :angel:
I haven't made nearly enough sprites yet. He only has one walking stance which is this one
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1395/ashruncz7.png)
And no sprites for jumping or taking damage. At the moment I'm only making the sprites, when I've made enough to be a character I'll start the WIP.
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Hm..his face needs work, You can't really see his nose and the shading isn't too good.
The Legs need shading.
There are also random pixels on his head, arms and shirt..it looks like you recolored an image of Ash.
Uhhh last time i checked alot of anime chars and in the ANIME his nose isnt very visable <__<
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Hm..his face needs work, You can't really see his nose and the shading isn't too good.
The Legs need shading.
There are also random pixels on his head, arms and shirt..it looks like you recolored an image of Ash.
Uhhh last time i checked alot of anime chars and in the ANIME his nose isnt very visable <__<
Plus if I made his nose any darker it doesn't look right.
Anyway heres a new sprite I just made
(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6112/ashjumpkickol4.png)
Falcon kick!
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:omg:
Read a shading tut or something.
His eyes look weird, the right arm looks like its coming out of his hat.
And that is not falcon kick. :P
Hm..his face needs work, You can't really see his nose and the shading isn't too good.
The Legs need shading.
There are also random pixels on his head, arms and shirt..it looks like you recolored an image of Ash.
Uhhh last time i checked alot of anime chars and in the ANIME his nose isnt very visable <__<
Well why is the nose there? --;
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I think this project might be good if done properly.
so heres a little tweaking i did not sure if you like it but it made it look better to me.
He has a nose <_< all anime chars do that doesnt mean there alway's visible <_<
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9322/ashvictorygyeditcopyga1.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Example
http://images.quizilla.com/K/KI/KIR/kirstysight/1134866661_res_hair10.jpg
Not that big not 100% visible who wants a char with a big bell pepper ass nose?
Half the time in anime's they dont HONESTLY have a nose they have a shaded area that gives it the illusion of a nose.
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I think this project might be good if done properly.
so heres a little tweaking i did not sure if you like it but it made it look better to me.
He has a nose <_< all anime chars do that doesnt mean there alway's visible <_<
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9322/ashvictorygyeditcopyga1.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Yea that looks better, but still needs work..but this guy is too lazy to fix him. --;
Um no -_- Not all anime character have a nose. ::)
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I think this project might be good if done properly.
so heres a little tweaking i did not sure if you like it but it made it look better to me.
He has a nose <_< all anime chars do that doesnt mean there alway's visible <_<
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9322/ashvictorygyeditcopyga1.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Yea that looks better, but still needs work..but this guy is too lazy to fix him. --;
Um no -_- Not all anime character have a nose. ::)
Not gonna do it all for him i did a few tweaks to it to give him an example of how to do it
(not exactly less then 20 secs just an expression)
took me less then 20 secs to do that.
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:omg:
Read a shading tut or something.
His eyes look weird, the right arm looks like its coming out of his hat.
And that is not falcon kick. :P
I tried, its tricky to figure out a light sorce
I'm new at this
I know that, I just felt like using ther line as a caption
I think this project might be good if done properly.
so heres a little tweaking i did not sure if you like it but it made it look better to me.
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9322/ashvictorygyeditcopyga1.png) (http://imageshack.us)
That is good, I did state when I improve I will go back and make changes to these sprites and this image will be helpful when that happens. Thanks.
Yea that looks better, but still needs work..but this guy is too lazy to fix him. --;
Um no -_- Not all anime character have a nose. ::)
Lazy? No, I'm just not skilled enough yet.
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Are you even trying? use this as refrence on how to shade..
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9322/ashvictorygyeditcopyga1.png)
I edited him alittle.
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3360/ashbq0.png)
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Are you even trying? use this as refrence on how to shade..
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9322/ashvictorygyeditcopyga1.png)
I edited him alittle.
(http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3360/ashbq0.png)
I am trying, I have stated that I'm new to this. I have saved both images to look at when I feel ready to try shading but right now thats not the issue. I think I should chance the angle of that sprites head though.
Remember I'm only just starting, we can't all have multiple WIPs you know.
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It is one of the issue's here.
Let me explain it like this its just a contrast like thing
Dark Color <-Contrast -> Light Color
So if theres a light color you should shade with a little darker color of that color.
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It is one of the issue's here.
Let me explain it like this its just a contrast like thing
Dark Color <-Contrast -> Light Color
So if theres a light color you should shade with a little darker color of that color.
Another problem is that due to both being left handed and doing these sprites in MSPaint it can be a struggle to get the shading just right. I did try my first attempt though since I do plan on improving my shading.
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6048/shadingattemptdw3.png)
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You can use a Shingo sprite for shading reference.
(http://vincej.piiym.net/images/shingo_win.png)
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get gfx gale, you can use hue/luminance stuff in there, to create your own shades.
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It is one of the issue's here.
Let me explain it like this its just a contrast like thing
Dark Color <-Contrast -> Light Color
So if theres a light color you should shade with a little darker color of that color.
Another problem is that due to both being left handed and doing these sprites in MSPaint it can be a struggle to get the shading just right. I did try my first attempt though since I do plan on improving my shading.
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6048/shadingattemptdw3.png)
Excuses, excuses.
We dont want excuses, we want results! So keep trying; and if people are being brutally honest, let them be. Its only going to help ^^
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Its not really a excuse if hes actually trying it meaning hes trying to learn >_>.
what the hell is GFX Gale? use photoshop.
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using photoshop for sprites over gfx gale is like using a f1 race car over a pickup truck to transport merchandise.
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GFX Gale is horrible i downloaded it for laughs it was one of the shittiest Graphics program ive ever seen in my life i could do better with MS paint.
Anyways on with the spriting and good luck gaiash.
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I agree with getting the sprite done, THEN going back to shading. Like you said, you're new to this. Why spend 30-45 minutes trying to shade one sprite just right, when you can get X many sprites done in the same time?
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GFX Gale is horrible i downloaded it for laughs it was one of the shittiest Graphics program ive ever seen in my life i could do better with MS paint.
Are you sure you used the actual Graphics Gale here?
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Can you release him as a beta? :angel:
I haven't made nearly enough sprites yet. He only has one walking stance which is this one
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1395/ashruncz7.png)
And no sprites for jumping or taking damage. At the moment I'm only making the sprites, when I've made enough to be a character I'll start the WIP.
hey man i like a lot on pokemon :sugoi: good luck on making on on him! ;) please remind me if you are already done on your character, i like it a lot ;D
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This is amazing! Please, do more Ash sprites! ;D
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Here are some new sprites, first I improved Ash's kick sprite.
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/7828/ashjumpkickle8.png)
Next up is what will be Ash getting shocked, fans will recodnise this expression.
(http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/3143/ashshockedlc3.png)
Here is Ash chasing after Aipom after it took his hat, I haven't finished Aipom's sprite yet though.
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5358/ashhatlessrunjc4.png)
Another alternate color scheme
(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/4738/ashfrlgcolorslp8.png)
And here is a sprite of Morrison I felt like making
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/3273/morrisonfp0.png)
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I agree with getting the sprite done, THEN going back to shading. Like you said, you're new to this. Why spend 30-45 minutes trying to shade one sprite just right, when you can get X many sprites done in the same time?
answer: because he won't have to go back and redo the whole spriteset when he can get shadings right.
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I agree with getting the sprite done, THEN going back to shading. Like you said, you're new to this. Why spend 30-45 minutes trying to shade one sprite just right, when you can get X many sprites done in the same time?
answer: because he won't have to go back and redo the whole spriteset when he can get shadings right.
I'd still need to go back and edit after I've improved at making sprites, I'd rather not have to change the shading to match other sprites when I could get it just right for all of them.
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I agree with getting the sprite done, THEN going back to shading. Like you said, you're new to this. Why spend 30-45 minutes trying to shade one sprite just right, when you can get X many sprites done in the same time?
answer: because he won't have to go back and redo the whole spriteset when he can get shadings right.
Wouldn't it be better for him to go back, as opposed to doing it straight-forward? If he goes back and does the shading, he can see how it changes during the animation. It makes the whole process of learning that much easier, because there's less guesswork. In my opinion, this way seems a lot more newb-friendly.
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Its been a while but heres a jumping sprite.
(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/6245/ashjumpkf2.png)
I've cleaned a few pixels from the main sprite too.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/317/ashyi8.png)
And from that we have Evil Ash, a potential future project.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/4338/evilashti6.png)
Here is a sprite of Shinji (Or Paul in the dub but that name doesn't suit him).
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2001/shinjiqr1.png)
And here is Cynthia from Diamond and Pearl.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7085/cynthiail2.png)
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I like it can pikachu be a striker ? or XD something that remember old times
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I like it can pikachu be a striker ? or XD something that remember old times
There will be an attack where Ash sends out Pikachu, it'll most likely use Iron Tail. For this attack and another this sprite will be used.
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6776/ashcommandfl5.png)
I've also changed Ash's head to make the sprite look better, Ash is looking towards his apponent now too.
(http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/8100/ashlu1.png)
Ash well as Pikachu I plan on making a special where Ash summons his Pokemon, the attack will be called Pokemon Charge. Here are two sprites I made for this move.
(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/6461/turtwigug8.png)(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5835/chimcharjy8.png)
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I like the work you've done so far.
Keep it up.
I can certainly understand the problems with using MS Paint.
(MS Paint's all I've got :'()
But even so, the quality is impressive.
PS:
You've probably already thought of this, but a simple projectile could simply be Ash throwing a pokeball.
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Good but a 2 layer shading is needed on all those sprites... If you are going for a cartoon style.
Nice i like em i would love to see it in fully animation :3
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Well as I've said I'm not ready for shading yet. Anyway I'm currently working on sprites for Ash throwing a Pokeball as well as various Pokemon such as Charizard.
Until they are ready here is another alternate color sceme based on Ash's original outfit
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6971/ashkantocolorsao3.png)
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Given the drawing style, I don't think it's even necessary to shade the sprites. Good luck on your project.
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Given the drawing style, I don't think it's even necessary to shade the sprites. Good luck on your project.
Anime uses a 2 layer shade and pokemon is a anime.
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...People just love going to different depths and lengths just to prove someone wrong.
Look at the sprite, (http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6971/ashkantocolorsao3.png) it doesn't seem to need to be shaded, or it could just be me.
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Left= 1 layer shade
Right= 2 layer shade
(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/6353/93374736aa1.png) (http://imageshack.us)
witch looks better?
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...People just love going to different depths and lengths just to prove someone wrong.
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...People just love going to different depths and lengths just to prove someone wrong.
i loled. That is very true :3
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Ok people enough, if I get better at shading I'll use shading and if I don't I won't. Simple as that. Most likely I'll release this without the shading and in the future I'll go back and add it. I'd rather have no shading than bad shading.
Anyway here is a new sprite
(http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/9808/ashpokeballsd2.png)
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I don't care about anything they say about the shading. Those sprites still rock! :sugoi:
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Why not try a few Pokemon action shots since... This is Satoshi, there is no Satoshi without Pokemon
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Why not try a few Pokemon action shots since... This is Satoshi, there is no Satoshi without Pokemon
I am working on them. I have two planned hypers and one planned special using Pokemon. I'll have some soon, until then heres a punch sprite.
(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/4127/ashpunch2lv7.png)
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Still looking forward to it.
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Looks really good.
I did a small edit, added a pokemon. I used a Diamond and Pearl sprite and simplified the colors, getting rid of a lot of the many shades. Just a still though, to be meant for ideas. I also made the fist a little bigger, Darkened the pants, and the shoe color (As not to blend in with the pants) and added a pokeball.
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3539/ashpunch2lv7zy5.png)
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Here Is Image I draw
(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5981/ashbu8.png)
Maybe You can use it
for portrait
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Not a bad sprite of ash, but i really dont see him being a figther. maybe him summoning his damn pets to fight for him...but hey, its your work :P can use some fine pixeling to sharpen the look. try drawing the images on paper first to get some ref on his stance and try to make a light source for him to shade him up.
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Looks really good.
I did a small edit, added a pokemon. I used a Diamond and Pearl sprite and simplified the colors, getting rid of a lot of the many shades. Just a still though, to be meant for ideas. I also made the fist a little bigger, Darkened the pants, and the shoe color (As not to blend in with the pants) and added a pokeball.
(http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3539/ashpunch2lv7zy5.png)
Well I do plan of using some Pokemon for special and hyper moves. I plan of using this sprite when Ash commands them
(http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6776/ashcommandfl5.png)
I've also made a few Pokemon sprites. These two aren't quite finished yet, I still have work to do on Bulbasaur's bulb and Charizards tail.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3483/bulbasaurxm9.png)(http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5839/charizardyr0.png)
Here Is Image I draw
(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5981/ashbu8.png)
Maybe You can use it
for portrait
Maybe, it looks good. I'm thinking of using this screenshot as a base for his portait though.
(http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/710/121oh5.jpg)
Not a bad sprite of ash, but i really dont see him being a figther. maybe him summoning his damn pets to fight for him...but hey, its your work :P can use some fine pixeling to sharpen the look. try drawing the images on paper first to get some ref on his stance and try to make a light source for him to shade him up.
Well Ash has a few scenes that would transfer well for fighting. The Aura in the 8th movie will definatly be one of Ash's specials, most likely as a projectile blast.
(http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/1909/m1403fi5.jpg)
And finding a light source isn't the issue, I'm not ready for shading just yet. I've already said I might add shading once I've practiced. If I don't my next project will have shading.
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Take your time, shading is a pain in the ass.
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Here Is Image I draw
(http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5981/ashbu8.png)
Maybe You can use it
for portrait
That looks great, Mugen Toons :sugoi:
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Any progress so far?