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Title: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: PotS on September 22, 2009, 10:24:50 am
Ok so one of the administrators at the Elecbyte forum has KFM for a nickname, is anyone against giving that back to him if he comes here? That is to say changing Ash's username.
Title: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Loona on September 22, 2009, 03:54:10 pm
There's a couple of things to do or at least think about:

- Update links to Mugen in Stickies so that they point to the Elecbyte site

Not hard in introductory threads, but there's at least one pointing to several past versions, going back even to the DOS version, that's the part I'm not completely sure how to handle...


- There's 2 sub-sections fo Mugen engine alternatives, but now the original is available again and updated to boot

How do we handle the sections for Shugendo and XnaMugen?

Considering the lack of movement in Xna in months, I think it's worth reconsidering its stay in the forum, but I hven't really followed its developments.
In any case, given the (lack of) activity in both project sections, I'd say it's reasonable to move the contents of their sub-sections like Bug Reports to the main topic list and dispose of those sub-sub sections.


- Think it's worth updating the icons in the Releases section to state if a release is meant to work for the new Mugen version?...
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 22, 2009, 03:56:34 pm
Best way about versions is probably to introduce the "LATEST Version" and "current version in use", being that the latest version would have a big warning in front stating that most material isnt made for it yet, so it might have compatibility issues as the community adapts.

Title: Re: Warnings, bannings, decisions...?
Post by: Just No Point on September 22, 2009, 04:40:47 pm
KFM and the Kung Fu Man name?

Just to avoid confusion?

Maybe change Ash's name to Kung Fu Ash? :P
Title: Re: Warnings, bannings, decisions...?
Post by: Iced on September 22, 2009, 04:42:11 pm
I suddenly remember pointing this out before about how it could bring confusion, im surprised that it actually ended up becoming true.
Im gonna separate this to another thread if no one minds , fuse it with loona thread of changes.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Bastard Walt on September 22, 2009, 05:00:56 pm
You're the boy of the prophecy, NarutoIced
Title: Re: Warnings, bannings, decisions...?
Post by: Loona on September 22, 2009, 05:15:05 pm
Iced said, September 22, 2009, 04:42:11 pm
Im gonna separate this to another thread if no one minds , fuse it with loona thread of changes.

This is making noone reply to the topic I started  >:(
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 22, 2009, 06:07:18 pm
Reply to the gentleman, please!
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: PotS on September 22, 2009, 06:12:54 pm
xnaMugen can be archived by now I suppose.  ShugenDo should stick around unless Sakirsoft decides to give up because of these new developments (not likely).

Updating the icons like that would double their amount, just using a comment of or conventional [tags] in thread titles should be enough for the time being.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Sepp on September 22, 2009, 07:01:26 pm
Well damn if I'm not out of the loop...
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Just No Point on September 22, 2009, 07:13:51 pm
Loona said, September 22, 2009, 03:54:10 pm
- Update links to Mugen in Stickies so that they point to the Elecbyte site

Not hard in introductory threads, but there's at least one pointing to several past versions, going back even to the DOS version, that's the part I'm not completely sure how to handle...
I don't see the harm in leaving links to the old versions. Normally betas are always up.
Anyway, I still think Guild should host all the old versions on the main site. But now I think Guild should also have a gateway link straight to Elecbyte's site. A big one too.


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- There's 2 sub-sections fo Mugen engine alternatives, but now the original is available again and updated to boot

How do we handle the sections for Shugendo and XnaMugen?

Considering the lack of movement in Xna in months, I think it's worth reconsidering its stay in the forum, but I hven't really followed its developments.
In any case, given the (lack of) activity in both project sections, I'd say it's reasonable to move the contents of their sub-sections like Bug Reports to the main topic list and dispose of those sub-sub sections.
TBH I just collapsed those categories. Since this is possible I don't really see the need to totally remove them. But maybe archive anything that has been stalled for a long time. Until we hear from the developers.

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- Think it's worth updating the icons in the Releases section to state if a release is meant to work for the new Mugen version?...
Maybe it would be applicable for the release sections to have a mandatory extra line to fill in under subject

Subject:
Mugen Version:
Message Icon:
POST MESSAGE

If Val could implement such. Guess old topics wouldn't be affected by it, but the authors can go back in and update them.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Shamrock on September 22, 2009, 07:51:30 pm
Perhaps two release sections. Or for that matter boards. Old mugen and new mugen. I don't see old mugen dieing for awhile. So instead of doing Icons I recommend another area above our old release section. They could be the same just in different areas. Call one Mugen 2001 or something.

I say this because I don't think we are ready to archive the old creations but one day we will need to and that would make it easy to do so.

I guess those geo(yahoo) sites that we worried were closing have less importance now.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: PotS on September 22, 2009, 08:28:38 pm
http://elecbyte.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=154

Come on now, seriously...
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Vans on September 22, 2009, 08:36:19 pm
I agree with having a new section.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 22, 2009, 09:08:53 pm
PotS said, September 22, 2009, 08:28:38 pm
http://elecbyte.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=154

Come on now, seriously...

AHAHAHAHA oh wow.
"IMMA LEAVING FOREVAHHHH"
give him a few days before RS is back too, thats just spitting on their face.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Shamrock on September 22, 2009, 09:16:59 pm
Leave it alone guys  ;D
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 22, 2009, 09:34:15 pm
Fuck that, I left it alone when he "RETURNED" from the grave to release more stages."let him save some face" I thought.
Kfm is one of the single worst persons that ever managed to have a say in this community and has alone destroyed most of the name the community had.
He is worst than ten vyx taped together.
He was able to orchestrate his "websight" death, loom from the shadows trying to use his old members as a trading coin to gain some fame, return uncaring, and now even this?


He just wants internet fame, no matter how much his grubby little hands have to do to get it, and he will stop at nothing, not his own word, not anything.
In the end of the day he is like vyx, who named his "proyect" brokenmugenhd to try to ride on the fame of others.
Thing is, he tried to do it by calling himself Kfm and his group of merry men Randomselect, and sounding official-like.

The first time I entered a mugen irc he was there spewing venom and claiming that all the other "mods at guild" were right in not wanting me as part of their team since they thought I was stupid. He has claimed to how many that he was part of elecbyte? He is the kind of person that pretends to be with bigger packs to look more self important, and im glad he was banned from here, just sad that he will still try to go after people AGAIN.

So seriously, fuck that. Peace.

he will have rs running back after his stunt failed in a few days, he just wants fame.

Im quite sure he will now whine about this to his fellows .
Title: Even if it's utter crap...
Post by: Bastard Walt on September 22, 2009, 10:00:54 pm
He can keep that there, out of bounds to us :P
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Shamrock on September 22, 2009, 10:01:38 pm
Just like Walt was out of line yesterday. Claiming that KFM is Vyx is a stretch. KFM has at least made shit. To me this puts him in another bracket. Granted he has his faults but I wouldn't say he as low as Vyx.

Plus, by doing the things that you just reported, he has proven he is smart at least in manipulation, Vyx is fucking dumb.

He might be Hitler, but he is no Borat. Besides, neither will be hanging around here, so who cares.

If it makes you feel better, I will beg for a mod status over there and ban him from elecbtye  ;P
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on September 22, 2009, 10:09:29 pm
Iced said, September 22, 2009, 09:34:15 pm
Fuck that, I left it alone when he "RETURNED" from the grave to release more stages."let him save some face" I thought.

no you were told "let the other person save face".
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 22, 2009, 10:11:11 pm
that was when he started transmitting messages through spokespersons afterwards.

[size=05pt]damn val, raining on my parade... [/size]
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Just No Point on September 22, 2009, 11:22:49 pm
You can't take away the fact that Ash really was good at what he did. Whether we all liked it or not. He was/is a good leader and I fear anyone that has to cross his path in real life if he's able to do as much there as he is on the net (in the mugen world)

But I don't see what he did on their forum? He has 2 posts? Did I miss something? ICED mentioned on MSN that he took the name Kung Fu Man there. Did they change that to Mr. Randomselect?
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 22, 2009, 11:41:14 pm
He probably realized that it looked silly and changed it himself, a step in the good direction. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Rajaa on September 22, 2009, 11:57:30 pm
I like the two separate sections idea because once the transition is "over," like Shamboy said, it'll be easier to archive the older content. It's not going to happen instantly, but it's good to think ahead.

As for Mugen, both versions should be up, 2003 & 1.0, labeling them accordingly, and as Iced said adding a warning about content/stability for the new one, at least until it's remotely bug free, and a decent amount of quality content is created/updated for it.


Kung Fu Man, All I know is a Jessica Smoke story. >_>
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Just No Point on September 23, 2009, 12:09:23 am
There may be a number of new mugen versions coming out in the upcoming years though.

Should at least make it mandatory to post the version. Then we have FOUND releases and EDITS

Would we duplicate all of this? Would we have a old generations category and a new generations category? And will users know which ones to post things in? Sounds like it could be a nightmare for the 2 mods that do stuff (not counting the new mods =P)

the 2 mods are Iced and Shamrock, but now ICED doesn't have to do it either O_O
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Vans on September 23, 2009, 12:11:35 am
Maybe in the near future it would be necessary to switch to labels, as to avoid having a ton of needless sections.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Shamrock on September 23, 2009, 12:16:36 am
If you go into other forums like game hacking or the other you will find ones for xbox, wii, and others. Entire boards.

We have an army of mods now, and Mugen will get popular again so work is coming no matter what.

That is unless everyone jumps ship ands runs over to elecbyte which means Iced and I will be modding our own post to each other.

We may even have other variations in the future. Stuff that only is released for the wii, if an engine is ported, or sakir's engine might actually do something, my $5 might actually make an open engine (yeah right) other platforms,  You see the point though,

We are on the verge of having completely different gaming engines out there. 
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Vans on September 23, 2009, 12:38:42 am
Made a redirection topic on found releases to stop people from posting the news all over again. :P
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 23, 2009, 12:41:57 am
Goodjob.Nice handling of the deleted threads you did so far as well.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Sepp on September 23, 2009, 10:36:09 pm
Please restrict any and all Ash discussion to the CLOSED BY ICED!! (i think? edit: I mean: ... topic that should be closed.. anyway..) topic:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=98797.0

and shut up about it or i'll reopen that discussion again :P

PS: I changed the newsline: Elecbyte returns, takes back "Kfm" name and releases new mugen.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on September 25, 2009, 03:39:55 am
I'd be in favor of a second release forum (with filter icons, of course) for this purpose, with migration of release topics with updated chars.

The release forum is huge as it is, if we make a cut now that will make it easier to search for older releases. I realize the compat. step isn't huge, but it's there nonetheless :P
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 25, 2009, 03:34:40 pm
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=106012.new#new
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on September 25, 2009, 06:30:32 pm
Yeah, yeah.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 27, 2009, 02:28:08 am
Sepp said, September 23, 2009, 10:36:09 pm

PS: I changed the newsline: Elecbyte returns, takes back "Kfm" name and releases new mugen.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Some others were afraid of touching it to begin with , with that name there.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on September 27, 2009, 04:37:02 pm
Valodim said, September 25, 2009, 03:39:55 am
I'd be in favor of a second release forum (with filter icons, of course) for this purpose, with migration of release topics with updated chars.

The release forum is huge as it is, if we make a cut now that will make it easier to search for older releases. I realize the compat. step isn't huge, but it's there nonetheless :P

Comments or it's done. Yea that's a threat, answer now or be ignored. So there. :P
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 27, 2009, 04:40:21 pm
How would you call it?
Release for mugen 1.0?
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on September 27, 2009, 04:48:31 pm
Your Releases (Mugen 1.0+)

or something like that?
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 27, 2009, 04:56:05 pm
Sounds good!
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on September 29, 2009, 05:19:02 pm
No more comments? Gonna go forward and add that later today, then.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on September 29, 2009, 05:25:18 pm
Valodim said, September 29, 2009, 05:19:02 pm
No more comments?

Sounds really good?
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on September 29, 2009, 05:26:31 pm
Well there are other people here besides you.. :P
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: PotS on September 29, 2009, 05:30:04 pm
Valodim said, September 27, 2009, 04:37:02 pm
Comments or it's done. Yea that's a threat, answer now or be ignored. So there. :P
When you said this I just thought you were making that section right away.  No objections here.

Is it going to be a mirror of the current releases section, with sub-sections and tags and stuff?
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on September 29, 2009, 05:38:33 pm
Only one will suffice for now, I suppose... no need for edits & addons (for now), not sure about found releases but don't think so.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Sepp on September 29, 2009, 06:50:54 pm
Would name it a bit differently maybe

Your Releases (MUGEN ver. 1.0)

or something, but that can be changed once it's there and we see how it looks. Whether we should have new section(s), can't comment, it'll probably be until I get a few free days before I'll check out the new MUGEN version.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: PotS on September 30, 2009, 11:03:26 pm
The parentheses are tacky IMO, I vote Winmugen Releases and Mugen 1.0+ Releases.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on October 01, 2009, 12:49:08 am
added, with same messageicons as Your Releases. I'm open about the name, comments?

also, "winmugen" is a bad idea to put there, it's misleading to people who don't know what's what.
"Your Releases, Mugen 1.0+"
"Your Releases, older Mugen"
ok?
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Vans on October 02, 2009, 01:12:44 am
The new 1.0+ board is not visible to guests, btw.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on October 02, 2009, 01:21:28 am
im gonna check the permissions.

should be fine now.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: momo! on October 09, 2009, 05:07:46 am
is there anything we can do about the community posting at elecbyte's forum?

it might scare them off again.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Shamrock on October 09, 2009, 07:04:15 am
No. If they are a tard their we can't go after them here. Same concept as getting a PM about banning a guy that was banned at MI. Not our turf not our problem. Elecbyte can take care of its own (I hope).
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Cyanide on October 09, 2009, 08:15:36 am
Hope they figure vyx out quickly as a menace. Even if he is a troll.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on October 09, 2009, 08:59:45 pm
Shamrock, the Hard Mod said, October 09, 2009, 07:04:15 am
If they are a tard their we can't go after them here.

I want an ignore user feature! >_<
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Cyanide on October 09, 2009, 11:01:55 pm
Finally, hurry up and implement it  ;P
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Shamrock on October 10, 2009, 02:59:44 am
There there there. I swear someone is editing my posts after I make them. It's true. --;
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Rajaa on October 10, 2009, 04:47:34 am
I was going to point that out, the I quoted the post and it was corrected. Why did you put the mistakes back? Are you doing this on purpose, Shamrock?  o_O
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on October 10, 2009, 03:01:28 pm
Yes, you're imposing yourself on him, which is fairly impolite.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Rajaa on October 10, 2009, 03:37:31 pm
Shamrock needs the attention! ;P

Was I really being impolite? I didn't mean to be, sorry.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on October 10, 2009, 03:58:32 pm
I think he meant as a joke that you were typoing in that post in a worst manner than shamrock, so you were imposing.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Valodim on October 10, 2009, 03:59:51 pm
No actually, I meant correcting others' spelling mistakes just like that is impolite. Tell them they are stupid once in a while, yeah, but just silently correcting their posts just doesn't feel right.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Iced on October 10, 2009, 04:03:04 pm
Ah I didnt notice that particular post.
I usually send them a pm ( if its someone im comfortable with ) so that they can correct the typos themselves if wanted.
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Rajaa on October 10, 2009, 04:09:37 pm
Valodim said, October 10, 2009, 03:59:51 pm
No actually, I meant correcting others' spelling mistakes just like that is impolite. Tell them they are stupid once in a while, yeah, but just silently correcting their posts just doesn't feel right.

I'm lost now, I didn't silently correct his post. I usually just work around people's spelling mistakes because I know that I sometimes make spelling mistakes too.

I swear I was going to quote the same part you quoted (to get shamrock back for trampling my reading skills in the recent past), but when I was quoting it raring to post, the spelling mistake that was there initially, was not there anymore, it was gone! Now it's back, maybe my eyes were fooling me before or something. >_>

I definitely wasn't trying to be impolite, and I never intended to be impolite!
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Sepp on October 11, 2009, 08:03:39 pm
"Sufficiently advanced political correctness is indistinguishable from irony."
-- Erik Naggum
Title: Re: Now that Elecbyte seems to be back...
Post by: Shamrock on October 19, 2009, 05:29:24 pm
I have no idea about what you guys are talking about.