M.U.G.E.N Central => FullGame development => Capcom Vs The World => Topic started by: Sean Altly on August 31, 2011, 08:49:08 pm
Title: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on August 31, 2011, 08:49:08 pm
A friend and I were discussing the possibility of a striker sysytem in the game. Even though it'd be a little more work for me, I think it might be fun. The way it would work is:
-Every character has a unique character-specific striker -You get a limited number of striker calls per round/match, ala the first MVC
That's pretty much all there is to it. I think it might be cool to get some characters in the game in the form of cameos, and it would also add a little bit more to the gameplay (seeing as how assists are so important in the VS series).
Here's the list of strikers we came up with (obviously these are tentative and this thread is for discussion of the idea AND the strikers):
CAPCOM
1. Ryu (SF) - Sakura 2. Ken (SF) - Sean 3. Alex (SF3) - Tom (his mentor from SF3 that looks like Jean Reno) 4. Charlie (SFA) - Guile 5. Mr. X (Resident Evil 2) - Zombie or Nemesis, or maybe another T-103 6. Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) - Barry Burton 7. Hinata (Rival Schools) - Kyosuke or Batsu 8. Morrigan (Darkstalkers) - Demitri 9. Megaman (Megaman) - Protoman 10. M. Bison/Vega (SF2) - Cammy 11. Jin Saotome (Cyberbots) - Captain Commando 12. Arthur (Ghosts 'n Goblins) - Firebrand 13. Crimson Viper (Street Fighter IV) - 14. Jedah (Darkstalkers) - Q-Bee 15. Leo (Red Earth) - Tessa 16. Albert Wesker (Resident Evil) - Tyrant 17. Frank West (Dead Rising) - Chuck Greene 18. Haggar (Final Fight) - Cody 19. Chun-Li (Street Fighter II) - Yun
THE WORLD
1. K' (KoF) - Kula 2. Lynn Baker (Rage of the Dragons) - Billy Lee 3. Tizoc (Garou: MOTW) - B. Jenet 4. Captain America (Marvel) - Iron Man 5. Solid Snake (MGS) - Meryl 6. Rorschach (Watchmen/DC) - Nite Owl II 7. Jin Kazama (Tekken) - Kazuya 8. Blaze (Streets of Rage) - Adam Hunter 9. CM Punk (WWE) - John Cena 10. Squall Leonhart (FFVIII) - Zell 11. Goku (Dragon Ball Z) - Vegeta 12. Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat) - Smoke 13. Det. Garret Laurel (SHADEs of Manhattan 2) - Jack Kaneda (his partner from SHADEs 2) 14. Koopa Troopa (Super Mario Bros.) - Goomba 15. Dr. Doom (Marvel) - Sentinel 16. Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) - Tails 17. Axel Stone (Streets of Rage) - Max 18. Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) - Reptile 19. Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury) - Blue Mary
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: D'Evil on August 31, 2011, 09:13:18 pm
I think that Jun and/or Hwoarang would both be more suitable for Jin than Kazuya.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Girard on August 31, 2011, 09:20:48 pm
Lilith would make more sense to be Morrigan's Striker unless your going with Morrigan after she absorbs Lilith.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on August 31, 2011, 10:07:00 pm
I think if an existing character is present but unfinished, it would allow you more flexibilty. Sorta how Kamekaze used Batsu's limited sprites to create a striker for him. Since someone mentioned Hwoarang above, you could make it a bit easier on yourself I guess too if you took the existing Tekken 3 Hwoarang and resprited him, so maybe he could have his launcher kick for example. The other option I guess is that you could have a preset pack of strikers (kinda like Syn's strider) and for all the Capcom characters have a small variety of Capcom faces, and likewise for the rest.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on August 31, 2011, 10:49:55 pm
I really want to stick to just one per character.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Ohzemesmo on August 31, 2011, 10:51:35 pm
How about making random strikers, like mvc or that card project has? That gives more freedom on what chars you could add as striker.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on August 31, 2011, 10:53:50 pm
That wouldn't really work in Mugen. The striker has to be coded into the character, hence the whole "one, unique striker per character" thing.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duos on August 31, 2011, 11:13:07 pm
I would suggest Q-Bee for Jedah's striker, since she was his servant. Also I think Sentinel might be a better choice for Doom, if only for Team Cl0ckwork reference. :P
I also think you could find someone more fitting for Scorpion than Reptile, but I understand why you chose him. Same with Cena for Punk. (My inner wrestling nerd REALLY wants to see Del Rio as his striker for some reason.)
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Shwa on August 31, 2011, 11:56:46 pm
3. Alex (SF3) - Tom (his mentor from SF3 that looks like Jean Reno)
You'd better fully make him afterwards because that idea alone is so incredible that I am already impatient for more and more progress.
Tom is the motherfucking shit.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duos on September 01, 2011, 01:15:36 am
Agreed. Plus Tom was said to have a fighting background and we never got to see him in action.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duo Solo on September 01, 2011, 01:20:13 am
For Scorpion's striker, you can use Quan Chi. He is the sorcerer who resurrected Scorpion and framed Sub Zero for killing Scorpion's family.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duos on September 01, 2011, 01:23:54 am
I think he chose Reptile cause all he would have to do is repalette and change some sprites.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duo Solo on September 01, 2011, 01:34:30 am
Yeah, I figured. My inner fan boy goes off when I picture Quan Chi using Scorpion to defeat his opponents and capture their souls to be used in the NetherRealm. Sort of gives the striker a background story.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Caddie on September 01, 2011, 01:38:09 am
That wouldn't really work in Mugen. The striker has to be coded into the character, hence the whole "one, unique striker per character" thing.
Not entirely true. There are two ways you could implement a global striker system into a full game that I can think of off the bat, there are probably more.
1. If every character shares the same common.cns, you can program the strikers there.
2. You can make a strikers.cns and have every character link to it in their def files.
For the animations, put the sprites into the games fightfx.sff and fightfx.air. I don't know if you can set their animations directly when you do that though, you might have to have them drawn using explods and anim = F****.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on September 01, 2011, 11:19:56 am
Yeah, I didn't think of those. It would work, but part of the fun of this system for me is everyone having a personal striker.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Caddie on September 01, 2011, 01:27:26 pm
Ya, looking through the list and the idea behind it I think the personal striker system would be better, too. More balance and classier. Just wanted to mention that a global system COULD be done if you wanted it. :P
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Ohzemesmo on September 01, 2011, 01:54:08 pm
Just made some tweaks.
CAPCOM
1. Ryu (SF) - Sakura/Oro 2. Ken (SF) - Sean 3. Alex (SF3) - Tom (his mentor from SF3 that looks like Jean Reno) 4. Charlie (SFA) - Guile 5. Chun Li (SF2) - Gen/Yun/Yang 6. Mr. X (Resident Evil 2) - Zombie or Nemesis 7. Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) - Barry Burton 8. Hinata (Rival Schools) - Kyosuke or Batsu 9. Morrigan (Darkstalkers) - Lilith (Demitri and Morrigan are rivals) 10. Strider Hiryu (Strider) - Strider Hien/Oroboros/Robot Eagle/Some Sub-Boss like the Robot Gorrila 11. Megaman (Megaman) - Protoman/Roll 12. M. Bison/Vega (SF2) - Juni and Juli 13. Jin Saotome (Cyberbots) - Devilot 14. Arthur (Ghosts 'n Goblins) - Chest Mage/Zombie (Firebrand it's one of his rivals, so) 15. ??? 16. ??? 17. Jedah (Darkstalkers) - Phobos(since his a model, so there's many of him and Jedah could just simple get one.) 18. Leo (Red Earth) - Tessa/Tabasa 19. Albert Wesker (Resident Evil) - Tyrant 20. Frank West (Dead Rising) - Chuck Greene
THE WORLD
1. Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury) - Blue Mary 2. K' (KoF) - Kula/Maxima 3. Lynn Baker (Rage of the Dragons) - Billy Lee 4. Tizoc (Garou: MOTW) - Raiden, from CVS 2 5. Captain America (Marvel) - Bucky 6. Solid Snake (MGS) - Meryl 7. Rorschach (Watchmen/DC) - Nite Owl II 8. Jin Kazama (Tekken) - Kazuya 9. Blaze (Streets of Rage) - Adam Hunter/Police Car 10. CM Punk (WWE) - John Cena 11. Squall Leonhart (FFVIII) - Zell 12. Goku (Dragon Ball Z) - Vegeta 13. Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat) - Smoke 14. Dr. Doom (Marvel) - Some device he created 15. Det. Garret Laurel - Jack Kaneda (his partner from SHADEs) 16. Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) - Quan Chi 17. Koopa Troopa (Super Mario Bros.) - Bob-omb 18. Gambit (X-Men) - Rogue 19. Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) - Tails 20. Axel Stone (Streets of Rage) - Max
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: FeLo_Llop on September 01, 2011, 04:34:24 pm
As Ohzemesmo said, M.Bison/ Vega's best would be Juli or Juni, since Cammy is no longer "Killer Bee" :/
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: dênis gomes on September 01, 2011, 04:37:23 pm
If it Help i think ...
CAPCOM
1. Ryu (SF) - Sakura/Gouken/Sagat want to win from ryu so he can help he to dont die for others. 2. Ken (SF) - Gouken Master of Ryu and ken 5. Chun Li (SF2) - Guile/Abel 6. Mr. X (Resident Evil 2) - Licker/Hunter Nemesis Can attack Mr.x Nemesis isnt Like the movie of resident evil. 7. Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) - Barry Burton/Carlos Olivera 11. Megaman (Megaman) - Rush/Zero 19. Albert Wesker (Resident Evil) - Uroboros?/Hunk 4° survivor ?/Ada wong she worked for he on Re 4 Tyrant attacked Wesker i think tyrant is no good
THE WORLD
4. Tizoc (Garou: MOTW) - Raiden, from CVS 2 5. Captain America (Marvel) - Wolverine 6. Solid Snake (MGS) - Meryl/Ninja 8. Jin Kazama (Tekken) - Hoawrang/Paul 12. Goku (Dragon Ball Z) - Gohan Teen Ssj2/Goten/ 13. Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat) - Smoke/Liu Kang 16. Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) - Quan Chi/Noob Saibot 17. Koopa Troopa (Super Mario Bros.) - Bob-omb/Brother Hammers 18. Gambit (X-Men) - Rogue/Saber teeth 19. Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) - Tails/Shadow/Knuckles
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duo Solo on September 01, 2011, 05:01:08 pm
1. Ryu (SF) - Sakura/Gouken/Sagat want to win from ryu so he can help he to dont die for others.
They're rivals so thats a no go.
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Megaman (Megaman) - Rush/Zero
Zero didn't come around til Megaman X. This is classic Mega Man.
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Captain America (Marvel) - Wolverine
While this would be alright, Iron Man would be more suited for the role.
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Solid Snake (MGS) - Meryl/Ninja
You talking about Grey Fox? If so, I agree with you on that.
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Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat) - Smoke/Liu Kang
Not really seeing the connection here. They're neutral towards each other, Smoke would be the best option.
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Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) - Quan Chi/Noob Saibot
Scorpion killed Noob (Classic Sub Zero) in MK1. Although they have yet to meet in the storyline, they are rivals.
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Gambit (X-Men) - Rogue/Saber teeth
Explain.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: dênis gomes on September 01, 2011, 05:14:42 pm
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While this would be alright, Iron Man would be more suited for the role.
Yeah i thinked The same Just forget to put he in .
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You talking about Grey Fox? If so, I agree with you on that.
Yeah forget his name.
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Saber teeth
Just i dont know if Gambit is in the side of X-mens or Like in X-men Evolution. but if he is from the old X-men im wrong.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Ohzemesmo on September 01, 2011, 05:18:41 pm
Sagat and Ryu would never team up. C. America and Wolverine have no connection. Snake would be more fun with Grey Fox, but he's is to cool for a simple striker role. Sub-Zero has no connection with Liu Kang, so no go. Scorpion might have Noob as a Striker, since Noob is a thug from Quan Chi. Gambit is Rogue, but once again, she's a damn fine addition a as possible char, so might be some other X-men with less apeal.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: dênis gomes on September 01, 2011, 05:21:23 pm
You wrong C.America Helped Wolverine in the war early he gets hes claws...
Edit:sorry about my bad english but is better than use google's translation.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duo Solo on September 01, 2011, 05:26:58 pm
Wolverine is part of the New Avengers, its just that Cap-Iron Man are the main protagonists of the original Avengers.
Gambit and Rogue work perfectly since they are in a relationship.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on September 01, 2011, 09:26:12 pm
I should note that there is no storyline to this game, and the game takes place in no specific time, so stuff like "Cammy is no longer Killer Bee" and Gambit's X-Men status, etc. don't mean anything in this case. Also, I have no problem with a character's rival being their striker. All I care about is that personal connection. I think you guys might be taking this a little too seriously. I mean, I want the striker to make sense, but I want this to be fun too. That's why I had people like Kazuya and Firebrand on there. Sure, they're enemies/rivals of the character they're with, but they're also popular/fun cameos.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duos on September 01, 2011, 09:38:07 pm
Kazuya and Jin have worked together before anyway, albeit it was more of an "enemy of my enemy" situation.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: dênis gomes on September 01, 2011, 09:46:42 pm
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I should note that there is no storyline to this game
knowing this it make thing's easy. yes i dont talking the game is easy or either...
I'm sure you will do this game well, if need sugestions count on me :)
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on September 02, 2011, 01:01:28 am
I guess you could form allies just through common interests I guess too, rather than alliances or whatever. Like for example if you want more of an unrelated history, you could just as well have CM Punk call out a fellow fighting game character who uses wrestling like Raiden from KOF, Bass from DOA, King/Marduk from Tekken etc, just as some examples, and likewise a Capcom wrestling character with another fellow wrestler, even if they've never been in the same game. This way it would broaden your list of possibilities rather than having a character have their striker, also be from the same series, you can approach a much broader variety this way.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: AdamP.Sky on September 02, 2011, 04:56:32 am
Sean you have it all wrong. I have decided to make my own list of strikers. I feel that this is a far superior list, and is more accurate to the source material.
CAPCOM
1. Ryu (SF) - Earthworm Jim 2. Ken (SF) - Ken Street Fighter 2010 3. Alex (SF3) - Alex the boxing raptor 4. Charlie (SFA) - Tom Cruise 5. Chun Li (SF2) - Crash Bandicoot 6. Mr. X (Resident Evil 2) - Keyser Soze 7. Jill Valentine (Resident Evil) - the powerpuff girls 8. Hinata (Rival Schools) - The Naked Tai-Chi guy from Die Hard 2 9. Morrigan (Darkstalkers) - Count Chocula 10. Strider Hiryu (Strider) - a Gun 11. Megaman (Megaman) - All three Big Bad Bettleborgs 12. M. Bison/Vega (SF2) - Dr. Robotnik 13. Jin Saotome (Cyberbots) - Captain Commando 14. Arthur (Ghosts 'n Goblins) - Siegfried Schtauffen 15. ??? 16. ??? 17. Jedah (Darkstalkers) - Boogerman 18. Leo (Red Earth) - Scruff Mcgruff 19. Albert Wesker (Resident Evil) - His Glasses 20. Frank West (Dead Rising) - Don Draper THE WORLD
1. Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury) - Ash Ketchum 2. K' (KoF) - exactly half of an 11 lb. black forest ham. 3. Lynn Baker (Rage of the Dragons) - Oprah 4. Tizoc (Garou: MOTW) - Falco Lombardi 5. Captain America (Marvel) - Goofy (Kingdom Hearts) 6. Solid Snake (MGS) - Secret Squirrel 7. Rorschach (Watchmen/DC) - Powdered Toast Man 8. Jin Kazama (Tekken) - Cancer 9. Blaze (Streets of Rage) - Joe Camel 10. CM Punk (WWE) - a can of Pepsi 11. Squall Leonhart (FFVIII) - Sho-nuff the Shogun of Harlem 12. Goku (Dragon Ball Z) - Spyro the Dragon 13. Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat) - Sub-Zero (the Running Man) 14. Dr. Doom (Marvel) - Cody Rhodes 15. Det. Garret Laurel - Ace Ventura 16. Scorpion (Mortal Kombat) - the 1972 Miami Dolphins 17. Koopa Troopa (Super Mario Bros.) - Nick Cage 18. Gambit (X-Men) - The Unibomber 19. Sonic the Hedgehog (Sonic the Hedgehog) - Bubsy Bobcat 20. Axel Stone (Streets of Rage) - Scooba Steve
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Rozay on September 02, 2011, 05:08:03 am
^Excellent list.
But yeah, Quan Chi would be better for Scorpion, but Reptile is way easier. And for Doom, you could use.....a Doom Bot. ;D
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Shwa on September 02, 2011, 05:12:24 am
Why Demitri? It should be Lilith, even though I love the hell out of Demitri. As for Strider, just use one of his cyber animals.
Well, I thought it would be cooler for it to be Demitri. I had Lilith there at first, but I just like Demitri more and figured hey, they're basically the main characters of Darkstalkers, so why not. I was going to CVS-ify some of his SVC sprites.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duos on September 03, 2011, 07:36:55 am
Demitri was also paired with Morrigan in Namco X Capcom as a single unit. So it ain't like it's that out of left field a decision.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on September 03, 2011, 07:42:59 am
Again I have no problems with it being Demitri, since he's my favorite character of the DS cast, but I just figured it would make more sense to be Lilith.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on September 03, 2011, 10:56:09 pm
As for Strider, just use one of his cyber animals.
You could even use Ginzu the Ninja from Captain Commando, and maybe just reuse some animations from MVC-3, or Geki from Street Fighter 1, or Ibuki. Though Cyber Animals/Hien would make more sense I guess, I just like the idea of Capcom's character pairing up with mixed universes, since like I said, it broadens your options.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: dênis gomes on September 04, 2011, 12:01:00 am
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You could even use Ginzu the Ninja from Captain Commando
I think the same !!
Ninja with ninja coul be fun and they both are from Capcom.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Alan Joestar ★ on September 04, 2011, 12:44:44 am
What about Colt Cabana as a striker for CM Punk. :sugoi:
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on September 04, 2011, 12:50:30 am
I also just noticed Sentinel coming in for Dr. Doom. I think you should make Dr. Doom's striker a Doombot, it's easy and seemingly lazy but people who read comics will get the reference and enjoy it.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: dênis gomes on September 04, 2011, 05:38:06 pm
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I also just noticed Sentinel coming in for Dr. Doom. I think you should make Dr. Doom's striker a Doombot, it's easy and seemingly lazy but people who read comics will get the reference and enjoy it.
He just said the characters dont have a time or partners dont need to be relationated's
but what makes sense could be fun too
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Maikeru on September 04, 2011, 05:42:42 pm
It warmed my heart to see King mentioned in this topic :) . He is my favorite video game character. I do understand the hardness and "unreleated-nes" though.
This project sound really nice, pretty much one of the dream games i wanted to do (but i hardly made any decent sprite animation and none of my computer nerd-ish friends could figure out how to use fighterfactory).
I do hope that there will be more to it than a decent variety of characters. I'd be very happy to see game play innovations but since i don't really know much about creating anything for Mugen i can't really suggest anything either.
Keep up the good work! (Sorry if my grammar isn't correct, im Turk)
Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on September 04, 2011, 05:43:33 pm
I understand that it doesn't need to, but I would like if the partners has some history or relation between them, which is true for most of the strikers, like Mega Man & Proto Man, or Ken & Sean
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: dênis gomes on September 04, 2011, 05:54:47 pm
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I understand that it doesn't need to, but I would like if the partners has some history or relation between them, which is true for most of the strikers, like Mega Man & Proto Man, or Ken & Sean
yeah i know what you think, i think the same, but this project is really good cause the creator is a fan.
I think Fan Games is better than those from computer or those from video games.But the new generation is coming and the old games are returning all the games could be Much more fun just watch the resident evil movie and then play the game you will see no reason for that fuckin movie =/
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: SlenderMan on September 04, 2011, 06:17:46 pm
Sub-Zero has Kenshi(he and Kenshi are allies)
Scorpion has no real allies but Quan Chi sounds good
Mr.X could have either zombies or an Umbrella soldier come out(you could edit the genome soldiers you made for Snake)
Wesker can have a licker or soldiers
Squall may have a monster or one of his buddies
Snake can have either Grey Fox or Raiden(he can throw Raiden like in his intro after he tries to out gun Snake)
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Balthazar on September 05, 2011, 08:54:48 pm
Lemme just ask what kind of striker options you want to have; 1 attack, or 2 different attacks per striker? (like a far away projectile attack and the other a close range launcher attack). I guess you could have this work with forward+(whatever the Striker command is) and backward+(whatever the Striker command is).
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on September 05, 2011, 09:16:30 pm
Adding a bit to what Balthazar said, what about a standard striker, and a striker-super?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on September 05, 2011, 09:29:40 pm
Oh snap son CvtW just got crazy. I can agree with 2 striker specials that have a different purpose, but it doesn't neccessarily have to be a long range or close range. Hopefully the strikers all have some sort of chemistry with the fighter, instead of just coming in to do some sort of standalone attack that doesn't compliment the game of the striker at all. Like if it's a close range fighter, why not have the striker help him do some high-low mixups, or push the opponent closer to him, something like MvC2's Strider x Doom bromance. As far as Striker Supers go, I can see how it can happen, you burn meter to have your striker do a super, and during this super you can move however you like to move, and attack at the same time while the opponent is being hit by the super. Can give the game some depth.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on September 05, 2011, 10:14:28 pm
-IF- striker-supers are used, you could also have some characters who also have a charge...so it allows you to have a short time to initialize a setup, and also leave a lot more options for the player in the process. Cazaki's idea of also having the strikers do something more than just a single attack (like a hadouken or whatever) also seems interesting, kinda almost like the Tekken Tag 2 tag combos or Street Fighter X Tekken, but probably a fair bit more simplified.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on September 05, 2011, 10:32:00 pm
I was just going to make them do one attack, and yes, I was going to make sure it complimented the character's gameplay. I would consider two attacks, but maybe you have to choose at the beginning of the round, like in the VS games (where they have multiple assists, but you have to choose one). I don't want to do Supers though, although I can tell you now that Jill will have a Barry Burton super.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on September 05, 2011, 10:47:05 pm
That I can understand, something like Captain Commando's Captain Storm, where partner characters are also part of his moveset also. I just mean it would allow you to do certain things with their striker that might seem interesting later on, like if Ken calls in Ryu for a super (like in NxC) and does a double shoryuken as shown here -> ::VIDEO:: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPSk77iNI88)
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: dênis gomes on September 06, 2011, 12:25:31 am
just to ask, but you will make a Tag System for 2 vs 2? cause if you do its could be one attack kill with the combos all they will have. what you think about do a assist thats not attack the opponent but heal the player?(well just for who have items to heal in theyr game, Like Barry Healing Jill with Herbs or Spray)
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: LunchPolice aka Quack on September 16, 2011, 07:21:43 am
Garret Laurel's striker should be Dick Gumshoe.
Pleeeeeaaaaase? ;P
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Wargame-Kun on September 16, 2011, 03:58:02 pm
hmmm any possible chance your striker system could be like in SBX (sengoku basara X) striker system?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on September 20, 2011, 11:09:14 am
Never played it, so I don't know what it's like. If I go through with it, it will be simple. You'll start each match with a limited number of times you can use the striker. When you use them, they show up and do an assist attack or whatever like in the VS games, and then jump out. They will be able to be hit, and when they are hit, they'll just be knocked off screen. I'm pretty sure this is similar to how it worked in MVC1. I'm not trying to over complicate it, or replicate any specific system. I just thought it would be fun for cameos and to add another layer of depth to the fights.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Wargame-Kun on September 21, 2011, 05:30:54 am
ah like Syn 's Strider?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on September 23, 2011, 08:48:46 pm
It's just MvC1's assist system without an assist roulette.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Segatron on September 30, 2011, 09:34:47 pm
Hey Add Maxima and Whip as well for K's Strikers i would like to see a epic finish from his team...Just like Captain Commando's finish in Marvel Vs CAPCOM
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Enso on July 07, 2012, 04:59:35 pm
Haggar is finished and Gambit got removed and replaced by Dr. Doom (for a villain role), so we have 19 characters of each group. One of the possible candidates will be joining The World side and it will be added to 20. I wonder who will be another Capcom character.
Questions: 1) Which Capcom character will be shown that will be added as 20 chars total?
2) Who will be Haggar's striker?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Rozay on July 07, 2012, 09:11:29 pm
Stop necroing Sean's topics for unnecessary stuff like this.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on July 07, 2012, 10:30:38 pm
Well, I haven't touched this thread in a while because it's looking like strikers won't make it in. However, I did update the main list to reflect recent roster changed and additions. To answer Enso's questions:
1. The roster is 19 and 19, so no more additions for right now.
2. Haggar's striker, if the striker system gets implemented, would be Cody or Guy, most likely Cody.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: The Street Fighter on July 07, 2012, 10:39:49 pm
That would make a lot of sense to make Cody instead of guy! But as Capcom is one of the main crosses then maybe having he's rival from Slam Master, Ortega as a rival to contribute something from that series too, but that only to be consider if the striker thing is going to be implent!
and also Sean stated that he don't mind Necro-Bumping in CVTW Threads! so give Enso some slack ;P (Read the FAQ)
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on July 07, 2012, 10:47:12 pm
I did say that, but he does seem to be bumping unnecessarily on some of these.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Chatman on July 07, 2012, 11:19:47 pm
True dat. That question didnt seem relevant from him, and im generally not one to slam. Also, cody cameo? I approve. :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Enso on July 08, 2012, 09:31:02 am
Well, Sean, I didn't think it was unnecessary if I apologize, but you said you don't mind I necrobump. I just had a reason why I did. I was asking my question because I know Haggar got updated but not in this thread. Please don't think of bashing me because I necro this and it was kinda unnecessary. I would kindly ask this. I don't want to sound like I'm mean but, how was I unnecessary to post here?
Never mind. Now I know why. My bad in necrobumping some topics and made them get locked. Now I understand why. Sorry I forget. Now I realized why I necro'd unnecessarily.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on July 08, 2012, 09:32:29 am
Don't try to justify it. It really wasn't that serious.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on July 08, 2012, 09:55:24 am
@Enso
I didn't lock the Mario/Kazuya/Batsu topic because you necro'd it, I locked it because CVSNB doesn't do sprites that aren't commissions anymore and I'm not going to commission those characters, so there's no point in keeping the thread open.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Segatron on July 08, 2012, 10:27:12 am
If the Striker System is added in the game will there be alternate ones like the ones in KOF 2000
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Karasai on July 08, 2012, 06:09:14 pm
no
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Enso on July 28, 2012, 11:50:36 am
I am sorry if I did necrobump unnecessarily but how did I ever do that? Tell me how I did it wrong. I would apologize. Anyway, I just wonder by posting on who would be C. Viper's striker. I wonder if it would be one of the SSF4 chars.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: davismaximus on January 24, 2013, 05:30:43 am
Since the topic of strikers came back up, I figured I'd post this here. What if you used some of those Dr. Wily sprites to make him a striker for Mega Man? Maybe make it like MVC Jill where Wily tries to hit Mega Man, but whiffs and hit the opponent instead? Also, any plans for the sub-boss and/or boss to get a striker?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Ne0Cloak on January 24, 2013, 06:14:59 am
I'd be cool to see Kyosuke as Hinata's striker. The sprites are available and his attacks are quite flashy, especially his Raijin Upper . It could be something to compensate on Hinata's close range style
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on January 24, 2013, 06:42:03 am
The one for Megaman makes sense, you could also use his Rush sprites, and if not him...maybe Bass or Protoman. Bass being a quick triple shot and Protoman being a shield charge/block at the same time, maybe with like 1 hit of invincibility.
For Goku depending on when he's added, aside from Vegeta you could always consider Piccolo and maybe a special beam cannon.
Koopa Troopa, I may also suggest the Paratroopa or a hammer bro, Paratroopa would simply behave as he does in the source game, hopping around, hammer bro could jump in and throw 1-3 hammers in an arc at different lengths.
Birdie - According to the SF Wiki he has a friendly rivalry with E. Honda, so they could work together, either that or Balrog
Sonic - Maybe Shadow, using Chaos Spear
Jin K.- Xiaoyu; maybe something like a chest strike to launcher kick combo
C. Viper - Seth maybe? Not sure what move specifically.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on January 24, 2013, 07:13:05 am
Most of those are people I've already decided on strikers for though. Jin Kazama has Kazuya, Koopa Troopa has a Goomba, Sonic has Tails (also fuck Shadow, he's terrible), and Goku has Vegeta.
The only one of those I might change is Goku because I may add Vegeta at some point. Is there some sort of friendship/rivalry between Viper and Seth that would make that make sense? I said earlier in the thread that enemies are fine as long as it's a close relationship, but I don't know all that much about SFIV's actual story. Also, Birdie's Striker would likely be Balrog, Eagle, or Titanic Tim (from Slam Masters).
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on January 24, 2013, 08:10:36 am
I was only thinking Shadow because I wasn't sure what Tails would actually do lol. I'm assuming all that the Goomba does is walk towards the opponent. Viper was working for SIN as a double agent of sorts I believe, which is the organization Seth controls in SFIV, as far as enemies, Chun-Li and Cammy would be there.
Also I completely forgot Birdie was from SF1 also, so technically we have 3 SF1 characters and 1 from the Alpha games, which means as far as strikers go, you could even give him Mike Bison instead of Balrog.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Enso on January 24, 2013, 08:39:54 am
I'm sorry for posting if you think it's inappropriate. Do you think Wonder Woman, Batman, or Steel, would be one of the strikers for Superman? Or probably Super Girl or Super Boy?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Segatron on January 24, 2013, 01:22:07 pm
Hey how about two strikers for each like kof 2000 where team would have two strikers
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on January 24, 2013, 02:51:26 pm
You asked that question before. It would double the work involved in such a system, no thanks.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Dr. Bob, Beautician on January 24, 2013, 07:00:12 pm
Did you mention Titanic Tim? OMG this need to happen...
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on January 24, 2013, 10:16:05 pm
Actually, if Gouken turns out to not be added, why not simply make him Ryu's striker instead of Sakura?
Skullomania - I would say Shadowgeist, but that would require new sprites, so maybe Blaire Dame or Kairi, since they both have existing sprites.
M. Bison - I'd suggest Vega over Cammy, and also since you may end up using Balrog for Birdie (and Sagat isn't really associated with Shadoloo now)
Chun-Li - Probably better to use Cammy here, since they seem to be allies/friendly rivals now, and are even a team in SFxTK
If Megaman does have Protoman, aside from a shield charge, I suppose you can also have him do his attack from the traditional game where he comes in and keeps jumping and shooting for a few seconds, and will teleport away if hit.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Lith on January 24, 2013, 11:22:19 pm
I was only thinking Shadow because I wasn't sure what Tails would actually do lol.
Ring bombs from Sonic 06 :haw:
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: City_Hunter on January 25, 2013, 12:16:46 am
maybe juri for bison if it is not to much work
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on January 25, 2013, 12:45:48 am
But Juri hates M. Bison and vice versa! Even Rufus would make more sense than Juri!
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on January 25, 2013, 12:55:53 am
If Tails is Sonics' striker, I suppose you can have him do that whirlwind spin from Sonic Adventure 1, make have it act almost like a Shinku Tatsumaki, in terms of dragging the opponent in and towards him, but obviously much weaker.
This is a video of a glitch using it, but consider it an example
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Duos on January 25, 2013, 12:57:19 am
Most of those are people I've already decided on strikers for though. Jin Kazama has Kazuya, Koopa Troopa has a Goomba, Sonic has Tails (also fuck Shadow, he's terrible), and Goku has Vegeta.
The only one of those I might change is Goku because I may add Vegeta at some point. Is there some sort of friendship/rivalry between Viper and Seth that would make that make sense? I said earlier in the thread that enemies are fine as long as it's a close relationship, but I don't know all that much about SFIV's actual story. Also, Birdie's Striker would likely be Balrog, Eagle, or Titanic Tim (from Slam Masters).
There are Mystic Gohan sprites avaliable, if its for a striker thing, you could have him masenko the opponent.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Karasai on January 25, 2013, 02:47:24 am
For Jin Saotome I suggest to replace Captain Commando with Hayato and give Captain Commando to C. Viper.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on January 25, 2013, 03:18:21 am
The question there would be, why though? They have no relation since they haven't been in anything together, Viper and Commando I mean
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: SlenderMan on January 25, 2013, 10:18:53 am
I would say for Goku it'd be Krillin or Piccolo due to them being close friends..the latter being a former enemy turned friend. not sure if there's any sprites but that would make sense. other than that you could say Gohan would work well too.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Enso on January 25, 2013, 02:17:57 pm
I agree with CGU here. Cammy as Chun-li's striker would be good. Also, I like what he preferred Vega over Cammy as Bison's striker.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Dragon-Kid on February 13, 2013, 12:52:18 am
Sean, how about Brock Lesnar as CM Punk's striker.
They have one thing in common, they work for Paul Heyman.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on February 13, 2013, 03:22:24 am
I hate Brock Lesnar. It's not a bad suggestion, I just really don't like him and I think there are better pairings for him, like John Cena (The Rock to his Stone Cold, if ya weeel), or Daniel Bryan.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on February 13, 2013, 04:55:49 am
I'm surprised you didn't consider Randy Savage too.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on February 13, 2013, 05:07:20 am
Why? Aside from paying tribute to him after he died, they really don't have much of a connection.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on February 13, 2013, 05:30:54 am
True, what about Chris Jericho also? Due to the whole Best in the World thing they had going on last year, or rather than Lesnar, you could always just do Heyman, and maybe some sort of distraction move, or something that behaves like the tag crashes from tekken tag 2.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Segatron on February 13, 2013, 11:16:56 am
Lesnar the bastard who doesnt give fuck about anyone and Cena could be striker for EX CM punk
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on February 13, 2013, 05:52:01 pm
I really would just rather stick with Cena. Then, whenever I get around to making the full Cena character, I'll have somewhere to start. At that point, I'll probably change Punk's striker to Daniel Bryan, and Cena's striker will probably be Randy Orton or Sheamus.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on February 13, 2013, 05:57:30 pm
I'm assuming both versions of Punk will have the same striker then right? I was thinking of Kofi for EX, due to them having been tag team partners in the past, but, I'm just assuming you'll end up with the same for both.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Segatron on February 13, 2013, 07:45:08 pm
EX Punk gets Cena and The Current one can have the shield since those guys have helped him to retain 494 days or something. and EX Jin can Hwoarang or Xiaou while the SFXT version you are planning to add Sean can Have a Jack
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: PBRTODD101 on February 13, 2013, 08:04:27 pm
You should use Toni's Supergirl as Supe's striker
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on February 13, 2013, 09:01:17 pm
Kofi is a great idea for Classic Punk's striker. In fact, given the old Punk's physique, I could probably edit that Punk into Kofi sprites. What attack would he use? Trouble in Paradise? I'd need a base animation for it.
Also, I would use Supergirl for Superman, but the sprites would need edited a bit since the shading is so different. I had planned on using Batman.
I've said since day 1 that Jin's striker will be Kazuya. That's not changing. EX Jin might have a different Striker, probably Asuka since sprites are already available.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: pooppoop on February 13, 2013, 09:34:08 pm
hey sean! i think that john cena's striker should be finlay
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on February 13, 2013, 10:35:44 pm
If you did make Kofi, I think trouble you should make it so Kofi's trouble in paradise either hops over most projectiles upon usage, or, behaves kinda like Cammy's spinning backknuckle move, by which it would have some invincibility on execution, and also would give Punk more of a long-range move in the process.
Editing it from Punk's old sprites like you mentioned would also save you time for sure.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Alexzon22 on February 14, 2013, 02:23:06 am
I looked over EX Punk's sprites, and his shining wizard could look like it with some editing.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C.v.s The Abstract on February 20, 2013, 12:05:19 am
i can make xiayu as a ex striker for ex jin
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on February 20, 2013, 12:30:25 am
^That would be pretty cool, considering they were a team in SFxTK, I would probably suggest Xiaoyu for the EX Jin, and Nina or Eddy for the new Jin, considering them working with Jin in Tekken 6. Also Alisa or Lars would work due to the info below.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Tekken 6 employees
Jin Kazama: Boss Nina Williams: Jin's trusted Bodyguard Eddy Gordo: Jin's Army (Later he betrayed Jin in Christie Tekken 6 ending) Alisa: Jin's protector Lars: Leader of Jin's rebel army (Later he betrayed Jin after he had an amnesia and he knew that Alisa is Jin's protector.)
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on February 20, 2013, 03:55:34 am
Xiaoyu would be cool for EX (Hooded) Jin, but like I've said about 15 times already, Kazuya is the new Jin's striker. :P
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C.v.s The Abstract on February 20, 2013, 04:31:38 am
i can make a few more sprites for kazuya i done, what u need done?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on February 20, 2013, 06:18:39 am
Sorry Sean, I forgot, also it just doesn't make sense in retrospect because they aren't allies, but I suppose the father/son connection is what you're going for, since I recall how you just wanted anyone who has some sort of connection to another character.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Xan on February 20, 2013, 06:21:09 am
I should note that there is no storyline to this game, and the game takes place in no specific time, so stuff like "Cammy is no longer Killer Bee" and Gambit's X-Men status, etc. don't mean anything in this case. Also, I have no problem with a character's rival being their striker. All I care about is that personal connection. I think you guys might be taking this a little too seriously. I mean, I want the striker to make sense, but I want this to be fun too. That's why I had people like Kazuya and Firebrand on there. Sure, they're enemies/rivals of the character they're with, but they're also popular/fun cameos.
Though I see CGU mentioned this.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Xan on February 20, 2013, 07:02:56 am
Whoops, I didn't read that post. Thanks for clearing it up.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Lith on February 20, 2013, 07:05:01 am
You'd think a crossover game would be safe from issues with the canon..
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Enso on February 20, 2013, 08:28:31 am
Now I'm starting to think about the possibility for Bob Hoskin's Mario is John Leguizamo's Luigi.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: DarkOneironaut on February 24, 2013, 12:08:57 am
A Mortal Kombat Fanboy as I am, I think Noob makes more sense for Scorpion, because they're both "minions" of Quan Chi. And plus, in the event of which Ermac or Reptile become characters (I remember Sean mentioned this once,) Ermac can have Reptile as a striker (or vice-versa), since they both serve Shao Kahn.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: SlenderMan on March 04, 2013, 05:00:58 am
as far as Ermac and Reptile go I'm working on Ermac's sprites atm as well as attempting to sprite Reptile's Acid hand and a few other ideas. Morrigan is pretty much done but I have yet to send her to Sean successfully. for some reason medafire is being a dick. and the page for sendspace keeps crashing on me. I'm lookin into it though.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: hairline733 on March 04, 2013, 09:22:36 am
^ sorry to be off-topic but whatever happened to fulgore?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: The Street Fighter on March 04, 2013, 10:40:34 am
Patient... He got to work on Morrigan, Reptile and Ermac... Give good ol' Slendy some space will yah? And btw let's not go way out topic (again)...
Awesome List of Strikers!!
Can't wait to see how Chuck Greene attacks! Btw would this be Chuck sprited by Balmsold, or Sean?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: hairline733 on March 04, 2013, 10:42:32 am
Oh trust me iam I know backed up these guys get with the characters, just good ol curiosity is all.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: SlenderMan on March 04, 2013, 11:20:55 am
Fulgore will happen in the future since his sprites will take a while for me to complete. I'm not gifted with Sean's ability to sprite entire characters super fast. I'll do what I can but until then the wait for Fulgore begins and in the end there will only be chaos.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Ne0Cloak on March 08, 2013, 02:19:09 pm
Will these characters have a standard summoning animation, or will all of the characters be called in differently
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on March 18, 2013, 10:32:48 pm
So after reading up on how it could be done, I actually am considering Random Strikers. This is just a thought, since personal strikers would be easier to code, but I also like the idea of total freedom on the strikers. I could include tons of cameos and random shit, and I could also utilize the sprites from MVC1 for many of the Capcom ones. The real fun would be The World side strikers.
I already have a bunch of great ideas for strikers floating around, such as Macho Man Randy Savage, Marty McFly, Shawn Spencer, Vash the Stampede, Krillin, Rinoa, Blade (Marvel), and more fun stuff like that (I may make strikers for every Poll loser, like a consolation prize). Just totally off the wall stuff, I want to create a real sense of random "What?!?" type of cameos, a lot like the strikers in MVC1 (Unknown Soldier? Devilot? Jubilee?). I also might even be able to get help with some of the sprites. I bet spriters like Judas, Diepod, Balthazar, etc. might like to make some of these since all I'd need is an attack animation, jumping into the fight, and getting hit (maybe a taunt), pretty simple stuff.
Let me look more into how difficult this will be to code, but I'm pretty enthusiastic about it right now. If you want to make suggestions, feel free, but don't just spout off random names. If you want to suggest someone, include what attack they'd do and if possible who might be a good base for an animation or two.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on March 18, 2013, 11:16:44 pm
If you do, I think it just opens up a whole new world of possibilities, and that random factor just adds to the fun I think. Not to mention the addition of those even though small in appearance, adds a lot of appeal via fan service.
Hmm, going back to what I said months ago, maybe Eiji (or any Battle Arena Toshinden character) could be a striker. I still think of you plan on making Cena in the future to not make him a striker, but now you also open the door to non-associated characters which is nice.
So, here would be my small list for now.
Edit: wanted to add, that due to the amount of potential work there will be, and how awesome this sounds, you can count on a donation from me in the future towards the project man.
Capcom: Amaterasu (you could probably use the wolf from Samurai Shodown as a base) -paint brush slash combo Sigma -maybe the attack from MMX4 where he shoots a scythe at the wall or floor and electrocutes it Random Onimusha person -some sort of power slash, or maybe a tornado attack, like the elemental wind attack from the source games -or he jumps in and absorbs souls (which in this case would be the opponents special energy) Allen Snyder (Ken as base would probably make the most sense) -justice fist (would cause severe knockback if connected) Asura from Asura's Wrath -Rapid Punch Combo Vergil from Devil May Cry -Killer Bee kick Chuck from Dead Rising 2 (with permission you could probably edit Balmsold's Frank) -charge at opponent with motorcycle
The World: Dio from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure -stops time for a few seconds Eiji/Sho from Battle Arena Toshinden with Hayato from MVC2 as a base -his desperation move from some of the games Travis Touchdown from No More Heroes (Hayato base again) -sword slash combo Cloud (you could probably just use the existing sprites of him and edit them) -limit break Knuckles (mugenhunter sprites as base) -wind up punch (causes stun if connected) Jack Cayman from Madworld and Anarcy Reigns(maybe zangief as a base would work) -walks in with a tire above his head, smashes it over the opponent which traps them for a few seconds
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Magma Dragoon MK II on March 19, 2013, 01:18:45 am
Now THIS is what I call awesome! This give you the opportunity to put lots of cameos from forgotten/obscure games.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on March 19, 2013, 02:41:14 am
Sounds good. No consistency whatsoever still sucks in it's own way though
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on March 19, 2013, 04:16:18 am
What do you mean?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on March 19, 2013, 04:22:04 am
I would assume he means the whole random factor, not being able to count on the same assist and learning to use the character with a set assist. Personally I think it would extend the life of the game by a lot, since it will keep them fresh with the variety. It also allows you to update the game with more if you ever feel like it, with minor work going into adding/tweaking the system as it progresses.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on March 19, 2013, 04:29:00 am
Oh, yeah that makes sense. I just thought it'd be more fun this way.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on March 19, 2013, 05:15:54 am
No arguments from me, like said above, it opens a whole lot of options, a nice mixup every match, and the potential to see a lot of characters with existing sprites and potentially new to make at least an appearance this way, even if their franchise isn't represented through a full character. I think the whole idea is pretty neat, if anything I would say take some characters that are already out there, build a small sample with maybe like 4-6 and introduce people to the idea once you get it running.
You may be able to convince people who may be skeptical, plus work out all the kinks as you go along with it too.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: The Sudden Freak on March 19, 2013, 09:04:30 pm
This I like, be neat to see some characters long forgotten, like Crash from Crash Bandicoot or Sir Daniel Fortesque from MediEvil (some of my favorite obscure characters).
Crash could do a spin kick like the Tasumaki, but I can't think of a good base for him.
And Sir Dan could use Earthworm Jim as his base and do a simple sword attack, or to make it more interesting, use his own arm as a weapon like in the MediEvil games.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on March 19, 2013, 09:48:13 pm
No arguments from me, like said above, it opens a whole lot of options, a nice mixup every match
I agree with everything you said except this. It doesn't really open up options or mix anything up because you have no idea what's going to pop out and therefore it's useless in a match, can't help you with combos or anything. Now if you do it MVC1 style with a roulette that chooses one for the entirety of the match, or classify them in a way where we can atleast know what type of assist it is (like projectile, anti-air, support, etc.) then they become useful in battle. Random assists is a nice novelty and in theory it's a great idea, but as far as matches go they are a distraction tbqh. They might as well be stage hazards!
That's not necessarily a rant against them, but the use of random assists is little to none.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on March 19, 2013, 10:08:08 pm
It would be like MVC1, where you are assigned one at the beginning of the match and you keep it the entire time. Different strikers will have different maximum usage amounts. It would work exactly like the one in MVC1, except the roulette will occur at the beginning of the match instead of on the character select screen (since that's not possible here).
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on March 19, 2013, 10:57:31 pm
^which is what I assumed it would work like tbh.
Curiously however, I wanted to ask, if you intend on keeping the Team Arcade mode options present, would this cause any sword of issues? Is it possible to even have a constant assist if you did a Simul battle or Turns? If not, I would say ditch it, and just do 1 on 1 with assists.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on March 19, 2013, 11:30:09 pm
Hmm, not sure, I'll have to see. To be frank, Turn Team Mode is very important to me and I wouldn't want to lose it. If it's not doable I may go back to personal strikers.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on March 20, 2013, 12:06:26 am
It would be like MVC1, where you are assigned one at the beginning of the match and you keep it the entire time. Different strikers will have different maximum usage amounts. It would work exactly like the one in MVC1, except the roulette will occur at the beginning of the match instead of on the character select screen (since that's not possible here).
Ah great, see I misinterpreted it as COMPLETELY random assists because lolmugenlimitations.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on March 20, 2013, 12:59:31 am
Oh yeah, I know that would be chaos and not useful at all. It was always going to be like this.
Here's a tentative list of characters planned as strikers:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
CAPCOM
Sakura Dudley Guile Felicia Chuck Metool Dr. Wily Lou Saki Unknown Soldier Firebrand Devilot Ton Pooh Tom * Sigma * Barry Burton * Leon Cammy Tyrant Cody Kyosuke
THE WORLD
Vash the Stampede * Adam Hunter * Rinoa * Cloud * Krillin * Lara Croft * Marty McFly * Shawn Spencer * Macho Man Randy Savage * Luigi * Knuckles * Dr. Robotnik * Wolverine Blade * Nathan Drake * Kula John McClane * Vegeta Liu Kang * Reptile Kazuya
* - Denotes that I would need sprites for these (most likely done by myself). Obviously if the workload gets too great, I'll either cut the list down or sub in characters that already have sprites.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Magma Dragoon MK II on March 20, 2013, 03:20:05 am
In the case of strikers, it's better to not use more than two from any given franchise, for the sake of variety. Also a personal nitpick, don't put any more Final fantasy characters, RPG's aren't just Final Fantasy, and I believe you can get nice characters from any other RPG's.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Karasai on March 20, 2013, 03:44:05 am
Are the strikers character specific or selectable?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Xan on March 20, 2013, 03:46:48 am
It would be like MVC1, where you are assigned one at the beginning of the match and you keep it the entire time. Different strikers will have different maximum usage amounts. It would work exactly like the one in MVC1, except the roulette will occur at the beginning of the match instead of on the character select screen (since that's not possible here).
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Post by: SlenderMan on March 20, 2013, 04:25:50 am
as far as Reptile goes I've got you covered
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Post by: C-G-U on March 20, 2013, 04:34:56 am
I don't know of any other characters that use this system off hand, but Syn's Strider has the potential issues I'd figure may happen unless you ask around and see if there's a way it can carry over after you're defeated. With Syn's strider in Simul mode, both characters have their own selectable assist which overlap one another (which is something you wouldn't want), and in turn mode, after you're defeated and try to summon an assist you get nothing, except his animation.
Maybe ask around if someone has implemented a system that actually retains itself over a match, and study or use part of the code to base your own.
Also, nice list of strikers, for some of these you may even be able to use existing characters as bases and maybe edit them a bit Vash (nevermind the existing sprites aren't great but there is a pretty decent looking Wolfwood!), Lara, Knuckles, Luigi, Barry Burton to name a few
I'm a bit surprised also you didn't add any DC heroes/villains as strikers, my vote would go to Harley, Joker or Batman for sure
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Post by: Magma Dragoon MK II on March 20, 2013, 04:14:48 pm
Let's see, for Capcom side:
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Metool Dr. Wily Lou Saki Unknown Soldier Firebrand Devilot Ton Pooh Sigma * Kyosuke
These are cool!
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Chuck Tom *
No idea who are those.
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Sakura Dudley Guile Cammy Cody
That's five street fighters. I'd shorten that to at least one by game, like one from SF1, one from SF2 and so on.
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Barry Burton * Leon Tyrant
And that's three RE characters, i think just one is enough.
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Felicia
I'd change her with any other more interesting Darkstalker and who isn't as overused as her, like Rikuo, Anakaris or Lord Raptor.
Characters I'd add to that list:
Son Son Captain Commando Cyber Blue (Battle Circuit): Could be edited from Captain Commando Momotaro the Sailor (Pirate Ship Higemaru): Could be edited from Cody maybe
Now for The World side:
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Vash the Stampede * Adam Hunter * Krillin * Lara Croft * Marty McFly * Shawn Spencer * Macho Man Randy Savage * Luigi * Knuckles * Dr. Robotnik * Wolverine Blade * Nathan Drake * Kula John McClane * Vegeta Liu Kang * Reptile Kazuya
Now this is a good list, except for...
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Rinoa * Cloud *
I'd remove these completely. If I were to suggest any FF character I'd say Gilgamesh, Warrior of Light or anything from before FFVI.
Characters I'd add to this list:
Tar Man (Return of the Living Dead): Could be easily edited from Jill's zombie helpers Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China) Marco Rossi (Metal Slug) Slime (Dragon Quest)
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on March 20, 2013, 04:53:23 pm
In the case of strikers, it's better to not use more than two from any given franchise, for the sake of variety.
I don't have the luxury of setting an arbitrary rule like this. Sprites are limited, and if I end up making 200 sprites for strikers, I might as well have made one good, full character.
Also a personal nitpick, don't put any more Final fantasy characters, RPG's aren't just Final Fantasy, and I believe you can get nice characters from any other RPG's.
None that I'd care to sprite, to be frank. I wanted another FFVIII character because it's my personal favorite, and Cloud is very popular. I wouldn't omit both of them because of your personal nitpick (your words), no offense.
As for your other post:
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Chuck Tom *
No idea who are those.
-Chuck as in Chuck Greene from Dead Rising 2 -Tom is Alex's mentor, the one that looks like Jean Reno, something that was discussed quite a bit in the first two pages of this thread.
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Sakura Dudley Guile Cammy Cody
That's five street fighters. I'd shorten that to at least one by game, like one from SF1, one from SF2 and so on.
You mean like how they already are?
Sakura - Street Fighter Alpha 2 Dudley - Street Fighter III Guile - Street Fighter II Cammy - Super Street Fighter II Cody - Final Fight
:P
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: TheSnackist on March 20, 2013, 07:45:50 pm
Republican Car Double from Skullgirls? That would be pretty money.
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Post by: Magma Dragoon MK II on March 20, 2013, 08:02:14 pm
In the case of strikers, it's better to not use more than two from any given franchise, for the sake of variety.
I don't have the luxury of setting an arbitrary rule like this. Sprites are limited, and if I end up making 200 sprites for strikers, I might as well have made one good, full character.
Also a personal nitpick, don't put any more Final fantasy characters, RPG's aren't just Final Fantasy, and I believe you can get nice characters from any other RPG's.
None that I'd care to sprite, to be frank. I wanted another FFVIII character because it's my personal favorite, and Cloud is very popular. I wouldn't omit both of them because of your personal nitpick (your words), no offense.
Then again, I'm not telling you what you should do or demanding something, just stating my honest opinion. And I take no offense at all.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on March 20, 2013, 09:30:56 pm
Cool. Also, the reason Captain Commando isn't a striker is because I'd like to leave the door open for him to be included in the roster at some point.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on March 20, 2013, 10:32:12 pm
How will you do the roulette? Would there be any visual way of letting the player know what Striker is picked? And about FF whatever happened to the Sabin possibility?
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on March 20, 2013, 11:38:44 pm
^regarding this, I'd probably suggest a simple small portrait, name and use number would suffice, maybe even plan a location out on the lifebars for location
Also Magus' version of Jill has some Barry Burton sprites added that may be of use. I would probably round out the Street Fighter characters to also include someone from SF1, like Gen, Birdie, Adon, or the cvs styled edits I remember seeing of Joe, Mike, Lee and some others that may require minor editing. There is also a Liu Kang out there which is an edit of Fei Long that you could probably use, and edit as well.
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Post by: Segatron on March 21, 2013, 05:16:54 am
The list looks better
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Post by: Dragon-Kid on March 21, 2013, 07:16:49 pm
The World: - Buffy Summers * (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) - Harry Potter * - Percy Jackson * (Percy Jackson and the Olympians) - Gandalf the White * (Lord of the Rings) - Spawn (Image Universe - Owned by Todd McFarlane) - Raiden * (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance attire) - Rogue the Bat * (Sonic the Hedgehog) - Hellboy (Dark Horse Comics - Owned by Mike Mignola) - Yugo Ogami * (Bloody Roar) - Undertaker * (WWE) - Heihachi Mishima (Tekken) - Emma Frost (Marvel Universe) - Aquaman (DC Universe) - Spike * (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
* Note: Spriters needed if they are interested.
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Post by: C-G-U on March 21, 2013, 10:29:57 pm
^Wesker and Hinata are going to be part of the roster so they wouldn't be strikers at all.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Magma Dragoon MK II on March 22, 2013, 01:40:10 am
Guess I'll put my own striker wishlist, too! (put 15 on each side)
* Duke Nukem * Bomberman * * Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) * * Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China) * * T-800 (Terminator) * * Darkwing Duck * Marco Rossi (Metal Slug) * Tar Man (Return of the Living Dead) * * Simon Belmont (Castlevania) * Raziel (Legacy of Kain) * Robocop * * Joseph Joestar (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) * Karnov (like, almost every Data East game) * Darth Vader (Star Wars) * * John McLane (Die Hard) *
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on March 22, 2013, 01:47:17 am
If you want to make suggestions, feel free, but don't just spout off random names. If you want to suggest someone, include what attack they'd do and if possible who might be a good base for an animation or two.
I'd also like to add, like I said before, if I end up having to make 200 sprites for strikers, I might as well have made one good, full character. These lists involve so much custom sprite work that they're just not reasonable.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: D.Magician on March 22, 2013, 02:04:21 am
I only have a few mainly for "The World" side (Some may have already been decided by you, Sean, but this is just a list):
- John Cena (WWE) - Naruto or Sakura (Naruto) - Vegeta (Dragon Ball Z) - Liu Kang or Kitana (Mortal Kombat)
That about covers my so-called "wishlist"
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Post by: Duos on March 22, 2013, 02:07:13 am
All I want to see is Akuma with the infamous MVC3 tatsumaki assist. No extra spriting is necessary.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on March 22, 2013, 02:12:15 am
I think you should just prioritize suggestions that have existing sprites, and leave any that require custom work to your own discretion tbh, or at least start off with characters that have existing sprites, and maybe put up a poll for the strikers. I'll try to checklist some of the characters requested with possible things you might be able to use from existing things.
Below is a list showing all the current things said, and organized into characters with existing sprites, etc.
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NO SPRITES Amaterasu Asura from Asura's Wrath Allen Snyder Chuck from Dead Rising 2 June Lin Milliam (Star Gladiator) Nathan Spencer (Bionic Commando) Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney) Axl (Megaman X) Momotaro (Pirate Ship Higemaru) Stuck (Giga Wing) Akira Kazama (Rival Schools) Random Onimusha person
REQUIRING EDITS Sigma Gutsman (Megaman Classic) Regina (Dino Crisis) Vergil from Devil May Cry Yellow Iris (Battle Circuit) Cyber Blue (Battle Circuit) Firebrand (Gargoyle's Quest)Cyber Blue (Battle Circuit)
The World: NO SPRITES Eiji/Sho from Battle Arena Toshinden Travis Touchdown from No More Heroes Jack Cayman from Madworld and Anarchy Reigns Buffy Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) Harry Potter Percy Jackson (Percy Jackson and the Olympians) Gandalf the White (Lord of the Rings) Raiden (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance attire) Yugo Ogami (Bloody Roar) Undertaker (WWE) Spike (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) Bomberman Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden) Jack Burton (Big Trouble in Little China) T-800 (Terminator) Darkwing Duck Tar Man (Return of the Living Dead) Robocop Darth Vader (Star Wars) John McClane (Die Hard) John Cena (WWE) Naruto or Sakura (Naruto) Kitana
REQUIRING EDITS Dio from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Cloud Knuckles Rogue the Bat (Sonic the Hedgehog) Marco Rossi (Metal Slug) Raziel (Legacy of Kain) Simon Belmont (Castlevania) Joseph Joestar (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) Karnov
EXISTING USABLE SPRITES Heihachi Mishima (Tekken) Emma Frost (Marvel Universe) Aquaman (DC Universe) Duke Nukem Vegeta (Dragon Ball Z) Liu Kang Spawn Hellboy [/quote]
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: The Street Fighter on March 22, 2013, 08:06:08 am
Very nice list, I also like the fact that so many cameo's could be possible, and if there is some I'd love to see it would be!!!
No * means it already has sprites... One * means needs requared sprites from scratch.. two ** means only need a convertion...
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Capcom:
Anakaris (Vampire Savior) Sexy Silvia* (Viewtiful Joe) Maximo* (Ghost n' Souls) Victor Ortega** (Slam Master - Some cool Wrestling move) Nina* (Breath of Fire) Zack* (Zack & Wiki)
The World Side:
James Bond* (Agent 007 James Bond) Sweet Tooth* (Twisted Metal - Use a Chainsaw to attack opponent with) Machete** (Machete/could be edited from T.Hawk) Slenderman* (Slenderman - Either Bitch Slap, or Making the opponent dizzy) Ancient Ogre (Tekken 3 - Using Spells/Magic) Pinocchio* (Disney - He would grow he's nose and use it as a sword)
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Xanden on March 22, 2013, 01:22:00 pm
Maybe Kinnkuman for the world side? He alreadly has some sprites from Muscle Fight. If he gets in maybe he could come in and grab the opponent, allowing the player to combo for a short while.
Oh, and Parappa to. Think he has some sprites already, they might need minor editing to fight the game though. Anyhow, if he does get in, maybe he could come in with his boombox and generate fill some of your special bar as long as he's on stage (forcing player to try to protect him), or he could maybe rap a bit to damage the opponent.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Segatron on March 23, 2013, 04:58:01 pm
Hey Sean do you have old concepts of Detective Garet Laurel maybe those would become a striker, KOF 2000 used that for the strikers like Robert, K etc
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Post by: Magma Dragoon MK II on March 24, 2013, 02:17:26 am
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Post by: C-G-U on March 24, 2013, 02:42:17 am
Oh, considering I was told he already had a palette for it, Sean could however probably convert and maybe reuse some animations to make Dick Gumshoe from Phoenix Wright as a striker.
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Post by: SlenderMan on March 24, 2013, 03:36:45 am
I like the idea of Slenderman..as he comes in have the "gimme 20 dollllars" song come on. lol
I'd say Vergil would be a decent candidate for Capcom's side since his Hi Res stuff is out already and is pretty accurate to the games.
Liu Kang could probably just fly in via fly kick and run off afterwards
same for Raiden(MK) if he was considered because he can teleport out after landing.
Reptile has existing sprites from me
Ermac could be a striker if I conjure up the edits maybe idk.
as far as Slenderman goes though that idea is gold as far as making the opponent dizzy. it can be done. have Slenderman teleport in and out quickly and from his presence the opponent gets put into dizzy state.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on March 24, 2013, 04:49:52 am
Actually for Slender rather than him popping up for no reason upon being called, have a random page/or several pages (from the game) appear on screen, that if touched would trigger his release.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: ferretsshadow on March 28, 2013, 06:01:05 am
with hinata it would look more unique to the cvtw image if you used ran hibiki from project justice.
for squal I think zell's hand to hand would be redundant as a sticker. you should aim for a gf or someone long range like selphie, rinoa, quitis, or irvine
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Segatron on March 29, 2013, 06:03:48 am
We have been debating who should be striker for this and that and I thought maybe I can share something on the striker system .
Each character will have atleast 5 striker bars, That can be used up by pressing the UT + grab button. They could be recovered by a DIS (Taunt) with a slight loss in power gauge. Similar to KOF 2000
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: C-G-U on March 29, 2013, 07:37:39 am
^From what I understand they will operate like they did in MvC1 uses will vary by the individual strikers, they will not be recovered until a new round most likely.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Segatron on March 29, 2013, 12:05:15 pm
Yeah but Like in KOF 2000 if the player had a full power gauge ie max he can trade a stock for striker chance. I wonder If Sean has better plans
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Omega on March 29, 2013, 12:11:50 pm
Some old school characters should make it as strikers aswell. İf you really go by random İ can suggest those:
Capcom: Guy - Final Fight Ginzu - Captain Commando
Those could appear for The World side.
Anime/Manga Characters: Tien or Yamcha - Dragonball Z Zoro or Sanji - One Piece Toriko - Toriko Ranma Saotome - Ranma Kenshiro - Hokuto No Ken
Nostalgic Characters: Green Ranger or Red Ranger - Mighty Morphin Power Rangers Leo/Raph/Mike/Don (any would do really) - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Billy/Jimmy Lee (with pallete you have both) - Double Dragon Kunoichi - Ninja Warriors Sketch Turner - Comix Zone Rash - Battle Toads Any character from King Of The Monsters (since they are huge they can appear like juggernaught and/or sentinel as a striker)
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Post by: Segatron on March 29, 2013, 12:22:11 pm
Sketch Turner.....I rather see him as full character
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Post by: The Sudden Freak on March 29, 2013, 05:01:36 pm
Was suggested before, but since he would had to be done from scratch, it is highly unlikely he will be in.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Cazaki on March 31, 2013, 04:20:07 am
Jeez louise you guys have a lot of suggestions. I say be patient and wait for him to even start development on them. Plus you all forgot what he said you should do.
If you want to make suggestions, feel free, but don't just spout off random names. If you want to suggest someone, include what attack they'd do and if possible who might be a good base for an animation or two.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: ferretsshadow on March 31, 2013, 08:53:21 am
good point I forgot mine: hinata character already comes with a ran hibiki stricker so those sprites will do just fine, with her using either her paper fan attack or her signature camera.
squals would be harder to choose from, considering the options I gave, but maybe irvine using ren idagawa's sprites. have him come out with his shotgun over his sholder and the blast away with a random special round that he used in game, with a rare chance of pulse ammo being used
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: davismaximus on April 11, 2013, 05:01:49 am
Stupid Quick question on how the actual strikers will function. Will everyone jump in, attack, then jump out, or will some of them be able to attack while jumping in?
Also, fuck yeah for Dr. Wily.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Segatron on April 11, 2013, 06:32:33 pm
VOLTRON
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Post by: Enso on April 26, 2013, 10:36:52 am
What? :???: Did you read what Cazaki said about character suggestions, Segatron? Problem is you don't get some points of the discussion for posting especially Sean's posts. Read and think and learn carefully before posting.
Jeez louise you guys have a lot of suggestions. I say be patient and wait for him to even start development on them. Plus you all forgot what he said you should do.
If you want to make suggestions, feel free, but don't just spout off random names. If you want to suggest someone, include what attack they'd do and if possible who might be a good base for an animation or two.
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Post by: Segatron on April 27, 2013, 08:19:48 pm
I wrote Voltron here by mistake
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Post by: Enso on May 01, 2013, 05:28:09 am
OK. :) Next time, be more careful on what you post. Think before you say something.
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Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 01, 2013, 09:23:25 am
I have a suggestion for a possible striker. Omar Little from The Wire. Since he's from a tv show, he'd require custom sprites. But basically what he would do is use his shotgun on the opponent and stun grounded enemies for about 2 seconds, giving you enough time to extend your ground combos. To balance him out, he would have no effect on aerial foes and basically "miss". Since all he would do is fire his shotgun, you could use the same animation your Jill uses. Omar would of course be taller and bulkier, and handle the recoil much better. You can even give him Det. Laurel's trenchcoat. You could make use of your custom state for Alex's headbutt as well.
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Post by: SlenderMan on July 01, 2013, 10:19:40 am
I'd say Shang Tsung for Scorpion and Liu Kang for Sub-Zero.
Krillin for Goku since they were always best friends.
Sagat, Gouken or Sakura for Ryu. Akuma would not save Ryu's ass. He'd push him towards going all Dark hadou on the opponent.
obviously Tails for Sonic.
I would say it'd have to be built in and there'd have to be a striker for every character including the DLC characters.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on July 01, 2013, 09:22:31 pm
I've said, over and over, if I do individual strikers, no one makes more sense for Sub-Zero than Smoke. Lui Kang was specifically mentioned earlier as a striker for Sub-Zero, and I pointed out then that Smoke makes more sense than anybody. Vegeta was established very early as Goku's striker as well. No discussion necessary.
Guys, I know 10 pages seem like a lot, but some of you have been participating in this thread since the beginning, and I feel like every once in a while it gets revived just so we can all end up repeating ourselves. It gets tiring.
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Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 01, 2013, 09:26:52 pm
My bad. I wasn't trying to bother. I just had an idea for a striker that I really wanted to share.
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Post by: SlenderMan on July 01, 2013, 11:42:23 pm
I only said Liu Kang for Subby cuz Sub-Zero and Liu Kang are allies on the good guy side. Shang is Liu Kang's rival so it'd make sense for Shang to help out Scorpion all though Quan Chi is most likely a better fit seeing as he brought Scorpion back as a spectre and Scorpion serves him for some time.
Title: Re: Possible Strikers System
Post by: Sean Altly on July 02, 2013, 12:23:46 am
Yeah, but that entire thing was discussed in the first three pages. In fact, you posted on the third page, right after several people pointed out that Smoke is the best option for Sub-Zero (after someone else suggested Lui Kang). See what I'm talking about? :P
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Post by: SlenderMan on July 02, 2013, 12:45:01 am
I gotcha I gotcha. no biggie. my bad. btw if you should decide to add Shang Tsung as a striker you can use this on edit I made. it's not perfect but hell I tried.
I gotcha I gotcha. no biggie. my bad. btw if you should decide to add Shang Tsung as a striker you can use this on edit I made. it's not perfect but hell I tried.