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Title: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 22, 2012, 07:50:45 am
So while I code some characters, I'm also working on Axel Stone's sprites. As I mentioned in another thread, these should be the easiest ones out of the poll winners, due to his simple design and readily available animation bases. Here are a few of his completed animations:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/AxelStance2-1.gif)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/AxelWalk2.gif)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/AxelCrouch.gif)

I'm having a bit of trouble fleshing out a complete moveset without flat-out stealing Buckus'. I contacted MDD, who is a big SoR fan, for move ideas. I then decided to go ahead and make this thread even though it's pretty early on. Here is what's planned for sure, although these move names are based on a basic knowledge of the game and a trip to a SoR wiki, so they may be wrong.

Unique tactic:

Need ideas for this.

Command Moves:

Roundhouse - F+HK
   Axel does a high roundhouse kick. Standing in front of the opponent knocks them down, while using it as an anti-air leaves the opponent in a juggle state that allows you to combo them.

Shovel Hook - F+LP
   Axel punches the opponent at a 45 degree angle.

Backhand Punch - F+HP
   Axel backhands and smacks the opponent in the face with his knuckles.

Special Moves:

-Grand Upper - F, D, DF + P
   Axel does his iconic uppercut attack. Goes further and does more hit with each strength.

-Dragon Wing - D, DF, F + P
   Axel performs a powerful circular punch that creates a flaming dragon. Eats 1-hit projectiles like Bison's Psycho Crusher. EX version can take 2 hits.

-Mad Kicks - D, DF, F + K
   Axel moves forward a little and performs two quick kick. The HK version knocks the opponent down, and the EX version makes the opponent bounce off the wall for juggles.

-Going Straight - D, DB, B + K
    Axel dashes forward and connects with one of three attacks. LP is a rushing hook that doesn't have much range, HP hits with a wooden plank/bat/pipe, EX does a upward slash with the katana.

***POSSIBLE SPECIAL***

-Fuze Counter - D, DB, B + P (could also be D, D + P)
   Axel gets in a ready position and counters any physical attack that hits him. LP counters crouching attacks and has him kick the opponent in the head, HP counters standing and jumping attacks and has him headbutt the opponent, EX is the same as HP but instead has him pull out a wooden plank/steel pipe/bat and knock the opponent away and does more damage.

Level 1 Supers:

-Dragon Smash - D,DF,F,S
   Axel hits his opponent with a flurry of strikes, and then finishes them with a "Tiger Uppercut." First hit must connect and not be blocked, otherwise the super doesn't happen.

-Grand Hook - F,D,DF,S
    Axel does a spinning flame punch along the ground that ends with an extremely powerful, multi-hit version of Grand Upper.

Level 3 Supers:

-Calling All Cars - D,DB,B,S
    Axel receives help from his police friends, who fire a rocket launcher towards his enemy that creates a huge explosion. This is based on the Special move from SoR1.

*Credit to MDD for help with the moveset

Let me know what you guys think, and I'll keep this updated.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Girard on February 22, 2012, 08:03:15 am
For more special moves you could use his weapon attacks i'll try to find a video of them if you need it.

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With knife/kunai
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Throw - B
1 hit with 8 HP

With bat/pipe/plank
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Dashing strike - Forward, forward, B
2 hits with 8+24=32 HP

With sword
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Upward slash - Forward, forward, B
1 hit x 32 HP (going forward or up) or 24 HP (going down)

Force bolts - Forward+A
1 hit x 28 HP, also gives invulnerability
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Cybaster on February 22, 2012, 08:47:51 am
Yeah, for specials, a weapon thing would be neat.
Dunno if it'd clash too much if he had the ability to pick up weapon's on the ground or make them fall down when hit or after they've been used a certain amount of times.

For the Lv3, I'd prefer something more original involving à move à la Kyosuke, where he'd call his 2 friends and they perform a combo attack on the opponent (namely he'd call Blaze and Hunter).

All the basics seem to be here, so I'll let MDD handle the additional ideas. :P
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 22, 2012, 08:50:14 am
Well, I didn't want to involve Blaze in a super since she'll be in the game as a full-playable character, and if I couldn't use Blaze, I decided there wasn't much of a point in a move like that. Not to mention, if I do use a striker system in this game, Adam or Max would most likely be his striker.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Duos on February 22, 2012, 05:35:50 pm
I don't see the issue in a similar moveset to Buckus's.  It's the same character, so ultimately they should have pretty similar moves and animations. 
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Balloon on February 22, 2012, 07:31:44 pm
Only 2 specials?

Sad face
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 22, 2012, 08:48:45 pm
Balloon said, February 22, 2012, 07:31:44 pm
Only 2 specials?

Sad face

SeanAltly said, February 22, 2012, 07:50:45 am

SPECIAL MOVES:

-Grand Upper/Bare Knuckle - F,D,DF,P
    Axel slides forward, dragging his fist on the ground creating heat/sparks, and then performs a vicious uppercut.

-Dragon Wing - D,DB,B,P
    Axel performs a powerful circular punch that creates a flaming dragon.

Need more specials, probably something involving weapons.


Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: MightyKombat on February 22, 2012, 08:52:05 pm
Random throwing weapon summon? Like he could call for something like a bomb, throwing knife or pepper shaker?
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: DrLeopard on February 22, 2012, 09:51:01 pm
Oh hey, this is pretty nifty! Nice job on the sprites so far! I like to play Streets of Rage 2 fairly often, so maybe I can offer some suggestions. It looks like you've looked into SOR3, which had some nice stuff introduced such as the dashing weapon attacks. That could work fairly well for him with different versions of it, Light Punch being the Bat, Heavy Punch being the Pipe and EX being the Katana. Outside of SOR for other influences though, maybe some Cody stuff? Zonk Knuckle could probably work for Axel.

Edit: Dashing attacks is pretty similar to what Girard said actually, whoops my bad.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 22, 2012, 10:01:58 pm
MightyKombat said, February 22, 2012, 08:52:05 pm
Random throwing weapon summon? Like he could call for something like a bomb, throwing knife or pepper shaker?

I actually thought of something like that, but would that be a reliable move? I mean, in the heat of a fight would you want to throw out a move that has a random result? Though I guess it works for Hsien Ko. This is probably something I'll do.

MC2 said, February 22, 2012, 05:35:50 pm
I don't see the issue in a similar moveset to Buckus's.  It's the same character, so ultimately they should have pretty similar moves and animations. 

That's a good point, I guess I just wanted to differentiate my version more. But, if it ends up like this, I guess it won't be a big deal. I'll just give Buckus tons of credit (I actually really dig his stuff). Although MDD said he had basically worked out his idea for an entire moveset since a CVS version of Axel has been a "dream character" of his, so we'll see what he has to say as well.

@Girard and DrLeopard

Yeah, I didn't even really know about those moves, but now that I do, that makes things way easier. The Zonk Knuckle thing gives me an idea. I'm not going to take any moves from Cody, but it makes me realize that when Capcom put Cody in SFA3, they did kind of just invent some moves for him. I could just invent a move or two for him if push comes to shove.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Balthazar on February 22, 2012, 11:51:29 pm
Only thing I don't like is the reinforcements super :(
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Rozay on February 23, 2012, 12:54:01 am
From the top of my head, without thinking:

-In the SOR2 beta, Axel had Tiger Uppercut and Hurricane Kick. While they are pretty straight forward and not too original, maybe a re-imagination of them could work. Like, Hurricane Kick could stay in place and rise up a bit, and the overall time duration of the move wouldn't last too long. Tiger Uppercut....well, it's not really that necessary with Grand Upper. Maybe it could be turned into a unique normal? :P

-Another unique normal could be something borrowed from SOR2 boss Barbon, which is his Roundhouse. It could work like Sagat and Guile's High Kick in that it's a great anti-air that can be comboed after from. It could al

-His hold attack+release kicks can be turned into the QCF+K special. Light does 2 kicks, Medium does 3 kicks, Heavy does 3 regular kicks then roundhouses them and knocks them away. EX does the same as Heavy but causes a wallbounce.

-His throws. Neutral throw does his grab+attack 3 times throw AKA knee them in the gut 3 times then knees them in the face. Forward throw is his behind-regular throw AKA jump over the opponent really quick and then jump and throw them to the ground. Back throw would be his behind-back throw AKA the suplex.

-Maybe he could have a wavedash to compensate for the lack of projectile or long range moves?

-Break from SOR3 EX mode

This is all just off the top of my head, but I have MUCH more ideas. If you want, I could cook up a complete moveset. Also, i'd like to once again how excited I am for him, but you and probably everybody else already know how much of a SOR junkie I am. Hopefully you release him separately as well.

Also, yadda yadda palettes blah.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: A$AP Buckus on February 23, 2012, 02:04:26 am
Thank you sir and feel free to use anything you like from my Axel. For a special (or super) I think a move similar to Kyo's 182 shiki would work well with Axel (the big flame punch). Actually, a lot of Kyo's moves would work with Axel
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 23, 2012, 03:07:23 am
MDD said, February 23, 2012, 12:54:01 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

-Yeah, I thought I'd seen somewhere that he had a Hurricane Kick, and considering the animation is there, a Tiger/Dragon Uppercut would be easy. I think I'll stay away from it though, just for originality's sake.

-May need to find a vid of that, because I don't know which move you're talking about right off the bat.

-Yeah, a friend and I did a SoR3 playthrough today and I saw that kick move. It could easily be a special. I want to note that CvtW system just uses two strengths of attack, so he'd have one light, one heavy, and an EX version.

-His throws would be exactly as you described pretty much. Although, I don't know where to work in a third one without having to make a command grab special, which I know I do a lot and am trying to stay away from. Will probably just stick with the multiple knees for a forward and the suplex as a back throw. I also want to work in his headbutt somewhere.

-Well, I'm considering a dashing move that uses his bat/plank swing and his sword upper, like Buckus'. That would be a good rush-down/pressure move, though it might clash or overlap with Grand Upper/Bare Knuckle.

-Not sure what the Break thing is from SoR3 EX mode. A vid might help.

-Feel free to give me any more ideas, man. You know way more about this than me. I've played all three games but am in no way an expert. I mean, I didn't even really know about the dashing weapon attacks. Also, I'll have a palette template for you soon. Don't use the .gifs I posted because they don't have color separation.

@ Buckus

Thanks man, I really dig your stuff and I probably will end up taking a lot of inspiration from your Axel.

@ Balthazar

I like it though, it was the Special attack from the first SoR, and it gives him something other than a straight up physical attack as a super. :P
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Titiln on February 23, 2012, 03:17:34 am
i think he should have weapons in some way, but a weapon pickup system sounds like too much of a hassle. i suppose you could use food in some way (with the risk of the opponent also picking it up) but i'm not too hot on that idea. the sprites are looking great!

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Rozay on February 23, 2012, 03:29:55 am
-I guessed as much.

-If you mean Sagat's kick, it's this. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyw2x-2XBQ&t=3m9s) If you mean Barbon's, then I don't have a video because every boss battle of him on youtube is done without getting hit. :P
It's the same animation though, just reversed.

-Yeah, I thought there was 3 strengths each for some reason. Light could be 2 hits, Heavy 2 hits then the knockaway and EX the wallbounce one.

-Does MOOJIN not support neutral, forward and backward throws? Eh, whatever, the other one was a long shot anyways. You could have his forward throw end with the headbutt instead of more knees, if you want.

-I was talking more along the lines of Kazuya in SFxT having a wavedash that goes under projectiles, not a physical attack. :P

-It was a joke. Break is a boss from SOR3 that was essentially Robo-Axel and turned faster and redder with the more damage he received, until he explodes. I was thinking "maybe it would be kinda funny if he was a useless-but-neat EX mode" ubt it was not serious.

-Definitely. I'll cook up a faux-moveset later with the suggestions you gave me. And yeah, i'm really looking forward to seeing what I come up with in terms of palettes.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Girard on February 23, 2012, 03:33:20 am
Couldn't find a video of him using most of his weapon moves but i did find the sprites of them (http://spriters-resource.com/genesis/sor3/axel.png) if you don't want him to have a Tiger/Dragon Uppercut you can just replace it with his sword upward slash  and maybe use dashing strike as a charge move not sure about the sword projectile though. That's all i can think of for Axel I'll leave the rest to MDD as he seems to have a better idea of how to make Axel than i do.

found a video that showed the Dashing strike also shows Break. if you still need it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CfwchO8w4k
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: davismaximus on February 23, 2012, 04:05:58 am
It would be awesome if you incorporated the dirtbike dudes in a hyper.  Maybe one of the motorcycles come in from behind Axel and he jump kicks the guy off it, sending the bike into the enemy.  If that's too much maybe an intro/win pose.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: DrLeopard on February 23, 2012, 04:39:10 am
The move MDD is talking about is on this sheet (http://spriters-resource.com/genesis/sor2/barbon.png), on the third row. Sadly I can't find a video of it right now either.
SeanAltly said, February 22, 2012, 10:01:58 pm

@Girard and DrLeopard

Yeah, I didn't even really know about those moves, but now that I do, that makes things way easier. The Zonk Knuckle thing gives me an idea. I'm not going to take any moves from Cody, but it makes me realize that when Capcom put Cody in SFA3, they did kind of just invent some moves for him. I could just invent a move or two for him if push comes to shove.

That's good! Yeah they did seem to invent some moves for Cody, if you go that route it'd be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: C-G-U on February 23, 2012, 07:08:04 am
Hmm how about adding that SoR1 special where the police car comes out and launches rockets and making it like his highest level super? He looks great btw ;)
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 23, 2012, 07:21:48 am
C-G-U said, February 23, 2012, 07:08:04 am
Hmm how about adding that SoR1 special where the police car comes out and launches rockets and making it like his highest level super? He looks great btw ;)

That's what Calling All Cars is:

Quote
-Calling All Cars - D,DB,B,S
    Axel receives help from his police friends, who fire a rocket launcher towards his enemy that creates a huge explosion. This is based on the Special move from SoR1.

Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Pre-Teen Music Maker on February 23, 2012, 09:39:06 am
That's great work, Mr. Altly!

Are you deriving his normals from all three versions of him?
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: C-G-U on February 23, 2012, 01:48:33 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Ah I see, are you going to give him any team attacks? Kinda like Captain Storm where the rest of his friends would jump in for a brief moment to assist with one big move. If you ever did weapons, I guess the best way would be the way Haggar from MVC3 uses them, where they're just part of his combos *actually if memory serves correctly I think Buckus had some moves like that for his.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Nedflandeurse on February 23, 2012, 05:09:05 pm
Awesome project!!
I love this design

For the special moves, I suggest:
-Weapon slash (katana or pipe??)
-Rush double kick (kind of huricane kick)

Also, how will be the throw system? Some SOR only mechanics or regular?

Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 23, 2012, 10:46:28 pm
Updated the move list in the first post. It may change further, getting some good suggestions from you guys and I'm also waiting to see what MDD's full move list looks like.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Burguertime on February 24, 2012, 12:19:25 am
Quote
Hmm how about adding that SoR1 special where the police car comes out and launches rockets and making it like his highest level super? He looks great btw ;)

I completely agree on this, police backup MUST BE a level 3 Hyper...
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: SlenderMan on February 24, 2012, 12:42:56 am
looks great man. can't wait to see more
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 24, 2012, 02:17:23 am
burguertime said, February 24, 2012, 12:19:25 am
Quote
Hmm how about adding that SoR1 special where the police car comes out and launches rockets and making it like his highest level super? He looks great btw ;)

I completely agree on this, police backup MUST BE a level 3 Hyper...

Yeah I know, it's been on the movelist from the beginning. I recently switched its positioning with Grand Hook, but it's always been there. Trust me, no one has to convince me of this one, it's definitely happening.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: SlenderMan on February 24, 2012, 02:18:59 am
I don't know how you do it but yer spritework is great.  ;D
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 24, 2012, 02:19:53 am
Thanks man, your edits are good too. Looking forward to those Ermac sprites.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: C-G-U on February 24, 2012, 02:25:39 am
Will he have that flip over move? *basically like Fei-Longs command grab* I remember in SoR2 you grabbed an opponent and pressed jump to get behind them...maybe something like that which can be a command grab that leads into other grabs.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: SlenderMan on February 24, 2012, 02:26:04 am
yeah I sent you the a look at his first gethits. Ermac is coming along slowly but surely. but anyway yer skills are damn good. Mr.X was badass and so was Sub-Zero so I have no doubt that Axel will be awesome.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Rozay on February 24, 2012, 03:14:39 am
Here's what I came up with so far. Not what I originally had in mind with my "dream movelist", but that was a while back and I can't remember everything. Also, I changed some of the stuff you had around. Don't be mad. :P

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

As you can see, I added some stuff from some of the enemies/bosses in as well. Give me some critique on this, as I would LOVE to add/modify/replace some moves, since this wasn't that well thought out as I hoped it would be.

Also, yes, I named some of the moves on the track names. I hope you do the same. :P
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on February 24, 2012, 03:23:21 am
Yeah, I like all that. The only thing I'm iffy about is the counter special. I know it's different than a command grab, which is good since I've been overusing those, but I also worry if having Geese-like counters would really fit into his gameplay. I also feel like I overuse the counters as well, i.e. CM Punk and a bunch of SHADEs characters (Fray, Moses Maddigan, EX Snow, Laurel, etc.). Otherwise I dig that moveset, and I like the move names better than mine. :D
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: C-G-U on February 24, 2012, 07:19:07 am
I'm going to assume EX moves probably aren't a concern right now, which makes sense since you're still laying out all the plans for him, and MDD's suggestions are all quite good :)
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Rozay on February 24, 2012, 07:48:45 am
Thanks. I was trying to fit as much SOR stuff as I could, but ultimately what I had in mind is it's really similar to your movelist.

Yeah, the counter move was really a midst of the moment attempt to give him a custom move. I have a few more ideas that could replace it, two of which involve the not-yet-used knife. Let me refine those more and i'll post them. Same with the unique tactic idea. I also have some intro/winpose ideas if you want them.

Also, I still think Break should be an EX mode for him. :P
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Cybaster on February 24, 2012, 01:13:06 pm
I'm not digging this counter move too much honestly. But :
C-G-U said, February 24, 2012, 02:25:39 am
Will he have that flip over move? *basically like Fei-Longs command grab* I remember in SoR2 you grabbed an opponent and pressed jump to get behind them...maybe something like that which can be a command grab that leads into other grabs.
This is a nice idea. Think Yang/Yun in SF3, with a grab then flip over the opponent, leaving you time to then connect a combo.

Also, have you planned some team attack or combo grabs between Axel and Blaze when doing some Team Co-Op ?

Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: kkhohoho on February 24, 2012, 03:03:09 pm
I say, just give him the counter. It shouldn't be overpowered for his gameplay style, (strong aggressive physical attacks,) so long as they aren't too overpowered. Have the counters only be active for a split-second, ala Rock from Garou. This way, you have to use the counter at a near-exact time of the attack, and then you have to use the right counter for the right move. It really just serves to give Axel a bit more protection, which would help, given that the majority of his gameplay isn't defensive at all.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: O Ilusionista on February 24, 2012, 03:05:06 pm
talking about flipping move, would the flipping over > suplex combo be avaliable?
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Nedflandeurse on February 25, 2012, 10:32:51 pm
O Ilusionista said, February 24, 2012, 03:05:06 pm
talking about flipping move, would the flipping over > suplex combo be avaliable?

+1 :)

I was talking of some "special" throw mechanics
It could be good to give Axel and Blaze special mechanics from SOR games.

Back grab thows can be a great idea!

And why not a super move with P1 holding enemy and P3 giving a huge combo. >:D
The kind of super Sakura uses in Rival School (I'm not sure...)
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on March 06, 2012, 09:37:43 am
Well, just finished all of his Gethit and required sprites. Would be further along, but I didn't work on him for like a week and a half. Luckily, the gethits only took two dedicated sittings to get through. Now on to his attacks!

What's done so far:

Stance
Jump
Crouch
Walk
Both turns
All Gethits and Required sprites
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: SlenderMan on March 06, 2012, 09:46:38 am
that's awesome..how the hell do you sprite so fast?
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Zantetsuken on March 07, 2012, 11:59:33 am
So you went straight from Shades of Manhattan to this?

Impressive work, you motivated me to work on Amy Guile so kudos to you.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on March 10, 2012, 05:06:38 am
First attack animations!

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/lp-1.gif)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/hp-3.gif)

Just his standing punches, but yeah, progress.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Rozay on March 10, 2012, 05:11:28 am
Hmmm, nice. :)
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Lord Kain on March 10, 2012, 06:41:42 am
SeanAltly said, March 10, 2012, 05:06:38 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Just his standing punches, but yeah, progress.
youre a fucking beast! looks amazing sir...
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Cybaster on March 10, 2012, 12:43:58 pm
:2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: 【 HadeS 】 on March 10, 2012, 02:34:40 pm
Great, I love his shading on his pants in the second anim :sugoi:
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Nedflandeurse on March 10, 2012, 02:54:33 pm
SeanAltly said, March 10, 2012, 05:06:38 am
First attack animations!
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/hp-3.gif)
Just his standing punches, but yeah, progress.

This one is based on some PI Matrimelee character? Reiji?

Nice work BTW! If you need more ideas for the moves or concepts, NP! ;)
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on March 10, 2012, 08:49:55 pm
Nope, it's a reworking of Terry's MP, since Terry's stance is much wider than Axel's.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: SlenderMan on March 10, 2012, 08:56:23 pm
definitely great work here. my shading could be better but seeing this gives me ideas on how to sprite
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Nedflandeurse on March 10, 2012, 10:45:36 pm
SeanAltly said, March 10, 2012, 08:49:55 pm
Nope, it's a reworking of Terry's MP, since Terry's stance is much wider than Axel's.

Ok I see. Nice work!
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on March 10, 2012, 10:48:31 pm
Hey guys, I need a voice actor for Axel. Anyone with good recording equipment and interest can send me an audition if they want. Just do standard fighting game stuff plus recordings of "Grand Upper!" and "Bare Knuckle!" to start. Thanks.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Balthazar on March 11, 2012, 09:22:35 am
I've done multiple tries because I was interested in this and wanted to 'secretly' sent them to you,
however my voice is just horrible and doesn't fit. Also my recorder is my mp3 player :P
No Balthazar as Alex Stone then :(
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Rozay on March 11, 2012, 09:29:20 am
Like i've said before, I would gladly do it but there are 2 glaring problems:
1. I lost my mic
2. My voice is probably too deep for Axel

If I buy another mic i'll give it a try anyways but there are probably better choices.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: chris20855 on March 16, 2012, 04:31:47 pm
As an amateur voice actor, I'll see if I can get something together today for Axel. I do love nosing my way into people's projects!  ;P

Also, if you're still looking for a unique tactic, maybe it could be some variation off of the food system. As in, he could enter a simple command to eat one of those tasty ground chickens (mmm... chicken on the street) and gain some super meter. I say that it should give around 1.5 the regular ammount of meter gained from a special attack.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Lith on March 16, 2012, 07:33:51 pm
I was thinking more of that system in Bare Knuckle 3 where you hold down a button, input a directional command and you do a special for the unique tactic. Or a weapon.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: StreetRumble on March 19, 2012, 09:04:46 pm
So Blaze is cut ?
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on March 19, 2012, 09:34:59 pm
No, she's in. She's right there in the first post of The Roster Thread.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on March 25, 2012, 10:59:22 pm
Alright, all of his normals are done (not counting the command normals). Here's a bunch of screenshots to show them off. The screenpack used in the shots is Lightworks by Gun0.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Cybaster on March 25, 2012, 11:01:16 pm
Fuck yeah, nice to see such progress on him.
Can't wait to see some progress on his specials now. :D
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Rozay on March 25, 2012, 11:01:49 pm
I recognize a lot of those moves from the original games. Very nice job.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Cazaki on March 25, 2012, 11:36:04 pm
Nice. Also glad to see it blends in so nicely with CvS too (Well most of your characters do anyway...most.)
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: A$AP Buckus on March 26, 2012, 09:51:24 am
Nice. Is he going to have his target combos(SOR 1 and SOR2/3)? And if so, how will they be used: as supers or just target combos?
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on April 14, 2012, 09:18:28 am
Uncle Buckus said, March 26, 2012, 09:51:24 am
Nice. Is he going to have his target combos(SOR 1 and SOR2/3)? And if so, how will they be used: as supers or just target combos?

Everyone has a pretty uniform combo system, so I'm not sure.

More progress everyone!

Screenshots of Bare Knuckle in action:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/mugen077.png)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/mugen067-1.png)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/mugen071.png)
(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b293/seanaltly/mugen075.png)

Took Buckus up on his offer to use stuff from his Axel, so I snatched the FX. Thanks for that!
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Balthazar on April 14, 2012, 09:43:27 am
It's not called GRAND UPPAAA!!  ?
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Knuckles8864 on April 14, 2012, 09:46:53 am
Either GRAND UPPAAA!! is either an EX move or an Super somewhere.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on April 14, 2012, 10:10:54 am
It is called Grand Upper, he just shouts "Bare Knuckle" in SoR3 which gets me mixed up sometimes.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Dr. Bob, Beautician on April 14, 2012, 04:02:22 pm
 o_O

This looks so amazing...
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Nedflandeurse on April 14, 2012, 08:06:45 pm
Awesome screens Sean Altly! ::)
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Knuckles8864 on April 14, 2012, 09:29:36 pm
Sean Altly said, April 14, 2012, 10:10:54 am
It is called Grand Upper, he just shouts "Bare Knuckle" in SoR3 which gets me mixed up sometimes.
I know. It's just I've played SoR2 all the time.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Titiln on April 15, 2012, 04:23:32 am
Sean Altly said, April 14, 2012, 09:18:28 am
Screenshots of Bare Knuckle in action:
i think this would look better if he was clenching his teeth (just filling it with white pixels). the open mouth looks a bit weird.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Lith on April 15, 2012, 04:42:08 am
Also his eyes look a bit too odd in that... too open personally, maybe close them a bit? Since their eyes weren't too visible in SoR it looks odd there. Just my opinion

Edit: Then again they're already one pixel... :S
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Rozay on April 15, 2012, 11:21:19 am
Gotta agree with titiln, clenched teeth would look better. Doesn't matter if they were open in the original game or not.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: chris20855 on April 16, 2012, 11:56:14 pm
Titiln said, April 15, 2012, 04:23:32 am
Sean Altly said, April 14, 2012, 09:18:28 am
Screenshots of Bare Knuckle in action:
i think this would look better if he was clenching his teeth (just filling it with white pixels). the open mouth looks a bit weird.

It looks a bit too smiley. Almost like a 4chan smiley.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: C.v.s The Abstract on May 07, 2013, 04:58:36 pm
What Sprite are u missing from axel i can make some custom from scratch moveset, if u really need the help. even tho i got commission i can still get those done aswell while im helping
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: C.v.s The Abstract on May 07, 2013, 05:42:00 pm
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/127/f/0/cvs_axel_update_by_seanatly_by_cvsnb-d64fi9t.gif)
 had to update the animation and face
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on May 07, 2013, 05:54:13 pm
I like the edits you made to the face, but the old animation was fine IMO.

I'm going to be working on him again once Mario is finished. He;s not a problem for me, easy to sprite, mostly done already. What I need help with is other characters, but nobody's been coming through for me, even when they're the ones who offer to help. If you want to help with something, that's cool, but I've got Axel under control. What I need from you is more music so I can make that alternate soundpack! :D
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: C.v.s The Abstract on May 07, 2013, 05:59:47 pm
Alrighty =P music it is ;D and other in mind?
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: mrryu1985 on May 15, 2013, 10:44:07 pm

***POSSIBLE SPECIALS***

-Fuze Counter - D, DB, B + P (could also be D, D + P)
   Axel gets in a ready position and counters any physical attack that hits him. LP counters crouching attacks and has him kick the opponent in the head, HP counters standing and jumping attacks and has him headbutt the opponent, EX is the same as HP but instead has him pull out a wooden plank/steel pipe/bat and knock the opponent away and does more damage.

Level 1 Supers:

-Dragon Smash - D,DF,F,S
   Axel hits his opponent with a flurry of strikes, and then finishes them with a "Tiger Uppercut." First hit must connect and not be blocked, otherwise the super doesn't happen.

-Grand Hook - F,D,DF,S
    Axel does a spinning flame punch along the ground that ends with an extremely powerful, multi-hit version of Grand Upper.

Level 3 Supers:

-Calling All Cars - D,DB,B,S
    Axel receives help from his police friends, who fire a rocket launcher towards his enemy that creates a huge explosion. This is based on the Special move from SoR1.

*Credit to MDD for help with the moveset

Let me know what you guys think, and I'll keep this updated.
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Have you considered "Super Axel"? There were special versions of him and skate when you input a code, check the link below.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq1OdReEN6k

Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Diepod on May 19, 2013, 04:56:53 am
Interesting. We had the same ideas for Axel's and Cody's Lp and Mp. Nice to see theres still been progress in this project as a whole.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Pre-Teen Music Maker on June 04, 2013, 12:42:32 am
I agree.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: mrryu1985 on May 01, 2014, 04:01:06 am
Is this still going on?
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: SlenderMan on May 01, 2014, 04:39:01 am
I hink sean took a break from this guy a while back or something idk.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Sean Altly on May 01, 2014, 05:01:31 am
Yeah, I started taking commissions and pretty much never stopped. He's over half way done, I may release the sprites to see if anyone else would like to work on him or finish them. No reason to horde them and I'm not going to be able to work on him any time soon.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: Bizarro Santamorphman on May 01, 2014, 05:08:50 am
Hopefully someone does finish them, he already looks pretty great!
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: JackTheAwkward on May 11, 2014, 04:25:25 am
Sean Altly said, May 01, 2014, 05:01:31 am
Yeah, I started taking commissions and pretty much never stopped. He's over half way done, I may release the sprites to see if anyone else would like to work on him or finish them. No reason to horde them and I'm not going to be able to work on him any time soon.

I can..
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: C.v.s The Abstract on May 31, 2014, 02:51:14 am
send me the sprites i can get him done ;D
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: BIG BOSS on June 07, 2014, 07:32:34 am
Interesting indeed.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: hstone39 on July 25, 2014, 09:43:29 pm
What's up with the updated Axel? Ya'll should at least release a prototype of him. I just want to try this guy out.
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: mikecrazy2004 on July 26, 2014, 02:54:44 am
nice
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: mrryu1985 on July 26, 2014, 04:40:31 am
Aw man I was all excited hoping for an update :(
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: cidiego on July 26, 2014, 03:37:34 pm
I was also reeeeally excited about this !! I wish somebody can continue his work. Please, I beg youuu
Title: Re: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)
Post by: hstone39 on August 10, 2014, 04:28:00 pm
Sent me Axel and I will finish him up.