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Title: DC Cinematic Universe: Bomb of Justice (League)
Post by: Jmorphman on August 31, 2012, 12:01:22 am
So there's been a bunch of news of DC's planned Justice League movie, and their attempts to try and duplicate Marvel's cinematic universe. A bunch of news has happened so, thread! Here are some recent things:

The Wachowskis are in talks to direct the JL movie. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-wachowskis-are-the-latest-directors-to-be-rumo,84272/) Ben Affleck was also strangely asked to direct, but that isn't gonna happen ever. So anyway, Wachowskis: they're good action directors but really bad at philosophy. If they do accept the directing gig, let's hope it'll be more like Speed Racer and less Matrix Revoultions.


Then, a rumor surfaced that Batman, who is getting rebooted because of course he is, might appear first in the JL movie, before his rebooted movie. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-justice-league-movie-may-be-your-first-introdu,84391/) Perhaps DC realizes that everyone on the freaking planet already knows Batman's origin and thus they don't have to retell it. Or maybe they'll just wait until the rebooted Batman movie itself before retelling it AGAIN.

And then, most recently, there a rumor that Brett Ratner was in talks to direct the JL movie. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/brett-ratner-is-the-latest-director-rumored-to-dir,84457/) Ratner, the cinematic genius behind the masterpiece known as X-Men: The Last Stand is the perfect choice to direct this film. Plus, there's precedent for former X-Men movie directors to go on to direct amazing DC films, just look at Bryan Singer and Superman Returns! :gonk:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Iced on August 31, 2012, 12:27:32 am
ugh that post is one horrible name drop after another.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on August 31, 2012, 12:29:00 am
what post
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Iced on August 31, 2012, 12:32:56 am
Yours. Every single one of those persons shouldnt be touching comic book movies with a ten foot pole.

X-men the last stand was a huge load of shit.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on August 31, 2012, 12:34:54 am
Yeah it's so weird I'm namedropping directors that are in talks to direct the movie, why would I do something like that it's so dumb.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Cybaster on August 31, 2012, 12:37:46 am
Superman Returns! :gonk:
I still don't understand how this movie got 70% on Rotten Tomatoes. I had to stop after one hour or I was gonna puke out of boredom.

Wouldn't it make more sense to make a Wonder Woman and a Flash movie before a Justice League one ? Or would these not sell enough and JL would be the only way to have a huge movie, since it'd include Batman and Superman ?

How about they make Batman movies inspired by the great hits such as Hush or Batman of Zur-En-Arrh ? :wink2:
And I want Poison Ivy and The Riddler back somewhere.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Titiln on August 31, 2012, 12:39:05 am
i think he's saying that the names you're namedropping are all terrible and this will be a terrible movie. he's not complaining about your way of posting exactly.

having said that, if christian bale isn't batman then this is kind of pointless. it's like they replaced robert downey jr for avengers because he's getting rebooted
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Cybaster on August 31, 2012, 12:40:37 am
It's like they replaced Tobey Maguire ... oh wait!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on August 31, 2012, 12:43:37 am
I still don't understand how this movie got 70% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Critics are dumb.

Wouldn't it make more sense to make a Wonder Woman and a Flash movie before a Justice League one ? Or would these not sell enough and JL would be the only way to have a huge movie, since it'd include Batman and Superman ?
I think they want to rush JL into production as fast as humanly possible after seeing the box office results of Avengers.

How about they make Batman movies inspired by the great hits such as Hush or Batman of Zur-En-Arrh ? :wink2:
Batman: Hush is about the furthest thing from a greatest hit you can get.

having said that, if christian bale isn't batman then this is kind of pointless. it's like they replaced robert downey jr for avengers because he's getting rebooted
Christian Bale won't come back unless Nolan came back, and that isn't gonna happen. Plus, he apparently hated playing Batman and was only doing it as a paycheck.

but hey, we won't have to deal with Bale's terrible Batman voice! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5xGvkI2K8)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Iced on August 31, 2012, 12:44:18 am
Yeah it's so weird I'm namedropping directors that are in talks to direct the movie, why would I do something like that it's so dumb.

I think you misinterpreted my post. I was pointing out how every pick was worse than the one after.Every name dropped was worse than the one before it. Unless you are involved with dc directors calls I dont think you could take what I said as an insult!!!!


Some people are saying that they will try to tie in batman next movie at the end of superman next movie, to kickstart the world with superman first.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Titiln on August 31, 2012, 12:45:28 am
replacing the only established actor (batman, three movies, huge trilogy) they have for this potential justice league movie would really take away from it. replacing norton in avengers also took away from it kind of, but ruffalo did such a great job that i didn't mind, and norton wasn't hulk for more than one movie so he wasn't that established. spiderman wasn't going to be in avengers so i don't see why that's relevant

EDIT: i suppose none of this really matters in dc's case since they're really late to the continuity thing
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Iced on August 31, 2012, 12:49:49 am
Ruffalo would have been a perfect Beast.

There will be a time where they will have to replace Ironman, Downey is already on his fifties, so he has about two or three more movies on him before he starts being a bit too old for the part. Marvel however has already admitted they will go the james bond way and replace the characters while having a sliding timescale.
Dc might just do the reboot thing every few years like they do in comics.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Cybaster on August 31, 2012, 12:52:20 am
Don't mind me, it wasn't meant to be relevant.
I was just mocking Sony for their reboot.
If Marvel got back the rights on Spiderman though, it'd be funny to see who they'd take as actor for Peter Parker. Toby Maguire, Andrew Garfield, or somebody totally new ?

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Batman: Hush is about the furthest thing from a greatest hit you can get.
>:[ HEY!!! It's a very cool story! And I love Jim Lee.
Wait for Batman & Superman VS Alien & Predator!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Iced on August 31, 2012, 12:53:32 am
They would sooner cast Donald Glover than any of those two abominations.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on August 31, 2012, 01:04:42 am
Hush is like a cover version of a mashup of every big Batman story ever, so it feels very epic to new readers. Batman fights Superman! Then he fights Ra's al Ghul! With a sword! Then the Joker kills an important character (well, not really, because nobody gives a shit about Tommy Elliot), and Batman almost kills him! Then Batman has to fight all his major foes!

But it's bad. Really, really bad. Things happen for no real reason. It pointlessly hinted at Jason Todd's revival, which literally no one besides Judd Winnick wanted to come back (so later he went and did so). You have a character betrayal that feels completely superflous (Harold Allnut, you know the Batmobile mechanic? Wasn't it shocking that this obscure character betrayed Batman!?) And then it totally fucks up the character of the Riddler. (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/04/13/ask-chris-101-the-riddler/) It's a terrible, shitty, overhyped trainwreck and is just another example of Jeph Loeb's terrible, terrible recent comics output.

plus Hush himself is the worst villain ever, seriously (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/08/03/ask-chris-116-how-to-talk-to-your-kids-about-hush/)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Joulz on August 31, 2012, 04:22:16 am
Brett Ratner...oh god no

introducing a new Batman in a JL movie sounds like something interesting (and logical): then, following with new stand-alone movies would be consistent... they won't have time to make a new Batman movie anyway, not after the awesome Nolan's versions

now i damn hope Superman will deliver
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on September 10, 2012, 09:53:53 pm
Allan Heinberg, a writer and producer of several shows (Sex and the City, Gilmore Girls, The O.C. and Grey's Anatomy) and occasional comic book writer is rumored to be developing a Wonder Woman series for The CW. (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2012/09/06/wonder-woman-amazon-tv-pilot-script-allan-heinberg-the-cw/)

It will apparently be called Amazon, like that Green Arrow show is gonna be called Arrow and the Superman-not-being-Superman show was called Smallville. The rumors seem to indicate that it is also pretty similar to Smallville, in that it will have arbitrary rules for the superheroics (like no tights, no flights) and to feature unlikeable characters complaining about being superheroes. :pwn:

But it's still just a rumor, so take it with a grain of salt. It does make me wonder if the Wonder Woman show would be set in the DCU film universe but expecting Warner Brothers to behave rationally and logically in these situations is a fool's errand.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Person Man on September 10, 2012, 11:54:56 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-5.png[/avatar]Yes, but will it have dumb jackets?  It's not truly a Smallville style show without copious amounts of dumb jackets.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Joulz on September 11, 2012, 01:53:39 am
omfg that "Flash" and Green Arrow outfit in Smallville....
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Bastard Wolf on September 11, 2012, 07:18:49 pm
since i always avoided smallville like the plague i didn't even knew teh flash made an appearance, how did he looked like?
/me does a quick google search

OH DEAR GOD, WHY???!!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on September 11, 2012, 09:45:42 pm
They made Darkseid an evil cloud. There is nothing worse than that.

NEVER FORGET CLOUDGALACTUS OR CLOUDDARKSEID
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Byakko on September 12, 2012, 09:37:29 am
It took the shape we know once or twice, and I think it says it's not really Darkseid but just his influence, so it didn't bother me that we only saw a cloud.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Joulz on September 12, 2012, 10:25:01 am
how did you guys like Brainiac, by the way? i actually liked the actor very much but that's about it :/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on September 12, 2012, 04:53:19 pm
James Marsters is fucking awesome.

But uh I didn't watch any episodes with Brainiac so I can't say how he did in that role.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on October 21, 2012, 12:49:05 am
DC wants the Justice League movie to premiere at the same timeframe as Avengers 2, somehow expects this to be a good idea (http://www.avclub.com/articles/justice-league-movie-might-premiere-around-the-sam,87593/)

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Iced on December 29, 2012, 10:53:17 pm
http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/excusive-justice-league-movie-character-info-darkseids-elite-lois-lane-alfred-and-more



Superman is essentially the same character from Man of Steel, and Zack Snyder is consulting regarding the writing of the character.

• Batman: The strategist of the group. Batman doesn't really want to be involved with these super powered beings he considers too powerful. Easily the most complex written.

• Wonder Woman: She has only been in man's world a few short months. The Wonder Woman script Michael Goldenberg is developing will be set before the Justice League movie.

• Green Lantern: Will be Ryan Reynold's character from the Green Lantern movie, but will be freshly written with a more serious tone.

• Flash: The most popular hero in civilian eyes who loves media attention, but when called upon is very serious.

• Martian Manhunter: Alien who has lived on Earth in secret for over a hundred years who has knowledge of Darkseid and his reign.

• Aquaman: Will be the King of Atlantis who has a key role in the film.

• There will also be a heavy military presence in the film which in future rewrites could include characters featured in Man of Steel or even Amanda Waller (Angela Bassett) of which neither are included in the first draft.

• Alfred Pennyworth is in the film in a minor appearance.

• Lois Lane is also in the film in a cameo.

• Darkseid's Elite will be featured who go up against the Justice League early on in the film.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Byakko on December 29, 2012, 11:04:02 pm
• Aquaman: Will be the King of Atlantis who has a key role in the film.
How to make Aquaman relevant ? By making him critical to the plot. HOHOHO.

So is this film a go after all ? Not beating around the bush saying maybe tee-hee we won't say because we're not sure ?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Cyanide on December 30, 2012, 01:27:08 am
Urgh, Xmen: the last stand, cinematic brilliance? It was shit. In all directions. Xmen first class was good. The last stand was a steaming heap.

I have almost no hopes for this. Honestly they should just live action the first ep of the JL cartoon, might turn out OK that way.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Neocide on December 30, 2012, 01:28:37 am
X-men Last stand? I do not know what you are talking about? There is no such thing.


THERE IS NO SUCH THING.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on December 30, 2012, 08:49:13 pm
http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/excusive-justice-league-movie-character-info-darkseids-elite-lois-lane-alfred-and-more
Sounds... kinda cool?

Urgh, Xmen: the last stand, cinematic brilliance? It was shit. In all directions. Xmen first class was good. The last stand was a steaming heap.
I was being sarcastic. :|
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on January 14, 2013, 11:28:26 pm
• Flash: The most popular hero in civilian eyes who loves media attention, but when called upon is very serious.
Oh please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please, make him like this one
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qFrV4XCk1Oc/T23hL6JJXJI/AAAAAAAADI0/FArWTiq1vgE/s1600/flash-tv1.jpg)

Also, I don't know you, but I enjoyed Green Lantern movie (not much as Avengers, but I like it) and I would like to see Reynolds again as Hal Jordan (close to the end of the movie he becomes serious and closer to his comics counterpart IMO)

It will apparently be called Amazon, like that Green Arrow show is gonna be called Arrow and the Superman-not-being-Superman show was called Smallville. The rumors seem to indicate that it is also pretty similar to Smallville, in that it will have arbitrary rules for the superheroics (like no tights, no flights) and to feature unlikeable characters complaining about being superheroes. :pwn:
Oh no, a Smallville clone?? I actually liked the WW pilot leaked on the net, it would be awesom if that would be concreted ;_;
Title: Re: entertainment news that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Roman55 on February 08, 2013, 05:48:46 pm
Rumor has it the JLA movie is starting over from Square one (http://io9.com/5982602/the-justice-league-movie-starts-over).

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Rumor has it Warner Bros. has dumped their Justice League script from Will Beall, and is starting over from scratch. Not great news.

Badass Digest (http://badassdigest.com/2013/02/07/justice-league-may-be-looking-for-new-writers/) broke the news that the studio has dumped their Darkseid-centered script:

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"The story from each source is the same: it's terrible. Some sources seem to think the whole movie is going to fall apart and never happen, while some believe that Warner Bros will keep moving forward, unwilling to lose the superhero arms race."

BAD has the story verified from multiple sources, so could this be curtains for the Justice League? No one will really know until Man of Steel is released. It's been reported before, and states again in this rumor that Warner Bros. is waiting to see how the Superman movie will do before they press forward. Pair the studios nerves with the fact that no one in Hollywood wants to direct this movie without a better script (or any script) and we're predicting the fall of the Justice League by late summer.
Title: Re: Re: entertainment news that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: walt on February 08, 2013, 06:19:59 pm
Well, what can you do. If it's not good, it's just not good.

It's hard to believe that Superhero movies started with DC, and they did fairly well with Superman and Batman since decades ago, and all of a sudden they just can't find their path at all now that Marvel set the bar so damn high.

It's sad that there isn't enough enthusiasm (or is it a matter of money) that could drive this movie forward with a decent script.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on February 08, 2013, 06:32:45 pm
So uh, that JL movie might've been scrapped. Or at least the script, which has been described as being "terrible" (http://www.avclub.com/articles/warner-bros-rumored-to-have-scrapped-its-justice-l,92209/)

They shouldn't try to rush this out. And trying to introduce 5+ heroes in one movie while also trying to be a big, action-packed romp is idiotic. There's potential for a great movie here, they just have to be patient.
Title: Re: Re: entertainment news that don't deserve their own thread
Post by: Person Man on February 08, 2013, 06:33:53 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-6.png[/avatar]I don't think it's a matter of enthusiasm, it's a matter of DC/Warner Bros.  not understanding why Marvel's movies are working.  I guarantee you that the only reason a Justice League movie is being worked on is so that they can try to compete with The Avengers.  They saw "Big Superhero Team Movie Makes Kajillions" and immediately tried to jump in and grab a piece of that pie without bothering to look at why The Avengers worked as well as it did. 
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Roman55 on February 08, 2013, 06:36:53 pm
I put that in the Entertainment thread because I couldn't find this one :/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Iced on February 08, 2013, 06:38:24 pm
if only there was a dc interested mod that would fix that! D:"hint hint nudge nudge"
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on February 08, 2013, 06:40:48 pm
if only there was a dc interested mod that would fix that! D:"hint hint nudge nudge"
I literally just saw those posts, so can it, you mook.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Iced on February 08, 2013, 06:44:13 pm
i was just suggesting you separated them and merged them here.
What does mook even mean:

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mook    1372 up, 592 down
   
Coined in the Scorsese film, 'Mean Streets', meaning a arsehole or loser.
I'm not paying, because this guy's a mook

bastard loser arsehole asshole jerk

you need to calm down a bit.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: walt on February 08, 2013, 06:47:24 pm
I don't think it's a matter of enthusiasm, it's a matter of DC/Warner Bros.  not understanding why Marvel's movies are working.  I guarantee you that the only reason a Justice League movie is being worked on is so that they can try to compete with The Avengers.  They saw "Big Superhero Team Movie Makes Kajillions" and immediately tried to jump in and grab a piece of that pie without bothering to look at why The Avengers worked as well as it did.
Well, they already had a working Batman universe, and a questionable Superman Reboot with an actor cheap to bring back again.

BUT NOOOO... they had to reboot the Superman universe, do a lot of tie-in movies, and didn't throw enough money at Chris Nolan to stick around to make it work properly. This whole thing riding on Zack Snyder's Superman shoulders (which I understand the faith they have in him, 300 and Watchmen) is kinda hard to believe (since Zack DID MAKE SUCKERPUNCH). He's talented and stylish in his cinematography, but I don't think he could manage a Justice League movie...

The Justice League isn't Watchmen, it's a lot bigger.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on February 08, 2013, 07:18:21 pm
i was just suggesting you separated them and merged them here.
I'm just having a bit of fun, jeez.

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mook    1372 up, 592 down
   
Coined in the Scorsese film, 'Mean Streets', meaning a arsehole or loser.
I'm not paying, because this guy's a mook

bastard loser arsehole asshole jerk
That's not... what? UrbanDictionary, why are you so terrible?

Yeah so uh it's slang from the 1930's, meaning "a foolish, insignificant, or contemptible person." So in other words, you. :smug:

BUT NOOOO... they had to reboot the Superman universe, do a lot of tie-in movies, and didn't throw enough money at Chris Nolan to stick around to make it work properly.
Rebooting Superman was their best option; Returns might not have been a flop, but it didn't really get anyone enthused and sequels were unlikely to change that, nor would they do much better at the box office. Making Returns a sequel to a 20+ year old movie in the first place was a terrible idea that would've weighed down the franchise even if Returns been successful.

As for Nolan, I'm sure they tried to keep him around, but he isn't the type to stick with a franchise; they barely got him to do TDK and TDKR as it is.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Byakko on February 08, 2013, 08:55:54 pm
Making Returns a sequel to a 20+ year old movie in the first place was a terrible idea that would've weighed down the franchise even if Returns been successful.
Not to mention the obvious that not rebooting it would have meant adding more years on top of that while dragging the backstory of all the previous movies. A reboot was the obvious choice if they weren't going to make Superman 50 years older than everyone else.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on February 09, 2013, 04:16:48 am
Not to mention the obvious that not rebooting it would have meant adding more years on top of that while dragging the backstory of all the previous movies. A reboot was the obvious choice if they weren't going to make Superman 50 years older than everyone else.
Even so, I suppose it was a better option than going with J.J. Abrams' "Superman: Flyby" script (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_in_film#Superman:_Flyby). You know, the one where Krypton doesn't explode. And Superman is sent to earth "to fulfill a prophecy" or something. Starring Scarlett Johansson as Lois Lane, Johnny Depp as Lex Luthor, Christopher Walken as Perry White, and Shia LaBeouf as Jimmy Olsen.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on February 11, 2013, 06:37:08 pm
Wow, that script is terrible... it's like Steel O'Neal horrid movie :S
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on March 04, 2013, 05:33:12 pm
Warner wants Nolan (and Bale) back for Justice League movie... or Superman/Batman movie maybe?? (http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2013/03/03/christopher-nolan-returns-to-batman-and-oversees-team-up-movie/)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on March 04, 2013, 05:37:10 pm
Nolan's just in talks to be a producer, though.

And merging the Batman of the Nolan movies with more fantastical superheroics seems iffy to me.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on March 04, 2013, 10:55:49 pm
I don't know about it, all depends about how would be Man of Steel. Maybe not as Justice League, but I would love a Superman/Batman movie with Cavill and Bale. But as it was said in the article:
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Keep in mind, the reports are that negotiations and talks are still ongoing and nothing is set in stone yet. So, this news is all tentative at the moment, but the reports from Latino Review jibe with what I’ve heard from some of my own sources. Batman-On-Film (BOF) has some additional insights in Bill Ramey’s report as well.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on April 16, 2013, 02:02:11 am
(http://www.loseternautas.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/73178_350702271696254_1108715011_n.jpg)
New photos of Man of Steel revealed by Entertainment Weekly!! (http://www.loseternautas.com/2013/04/11/man-of-steel-imagenes/#more-25377)
This news was originally from here (http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/176119-new-photos-from-man-of-steel-revealed), but since EW itself requested to remove the pics, I left you to Los Eternautas (spanish comics news website), where they got the pics now
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Bea on April 16, 2013, 03:04:35 am
I will never get used to this costume, full of scales. :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on April 16, 2013, 03:05:38 am
It's totally realistic and not at all silly looking. I mean, what else could they use, spandex? Don't make me laugh, that would never work.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Bea on April 16, 2013, 03:12:24 am
True that... how silly of me. What would come next then? Red briefs over his pants? That would be too silly!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on April 16, 2013, 06:29:40 am
It's totally realistic and not at all silly looking. I mean, what else could they use, spandex? Don't make me laugh, that would never work.
Unless you're Christopher Reeves (RIP)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 12:32:53 am
Unless you're Christopher Reeves (RIP)
Yes that is exactly what I was implying. That spandex can work and these attempts at making it more "realistic" look tons worse. :|
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Bea on April 17, 2013, 12:42:13 am
Exactly.
And I still don't get why they ditched the red briefs. The costume looks ridiculous without it.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Iced on April 17, 2013, 12:43:01 am
ok so they dont want to use the s curl.


But why does he have a pompadour?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 03:42:53 am

oh... oh my

This trailer... it gets it. It gets Superman. This is a very good sign.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Bea on April 17, 2013, 04:03:51 am
... Yes, it does. It definitely does. This trailer has me impressed.
That is Superman, even though he doesn't quite dresses like him.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 04:42:02 am
I still do have concerns that were raised by the trailer, such as the implication that Clark hides himself away from the world (at the urging of Pa Kent) for some period of time as an adult (this being the bearded, oil rig worker shots). Thankfully he's shown to still save people, but this, along with some other things, seems to indicate that Clark does not decide to become Superman himself, and instead is pushed onto that path by a computer version or recording of Jor-El, which is that bullshit and overbearing "SUPERMAN IS CHRIST" metaphor that has popped up into nearly every live action adaptation since the first Reeve movie, and which reached its apex in Smallville, where Clark was so obnoxiously petulant about having to save people that it took 10 freaking seasons for him to deign to put on the cape.

I really really hate this version, because once Jor-El puts his baby in the rocket, his role in the story should be over. He shouldn't loom over Clark's life, telling him what to do, or teach him about math for 12 years or whatever the fuck happened in the '78 movie, or tell him to become Superman. Clark needs to make that decision himself, based on the way the Kent's raised him, not on what the computer simulacrum of a man he never knew tells him to do.

But this is all speculation, of course, the movie itself could turn out in any direction. I HAVE STRONG FEELINGS ABOUT SUPERMAN OKAY
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Bea on April 17, 2013, 02:01:19 pm
You and me both, sister. ;P
Superman defined Superheroes for me. He was the champion of my childhood, well above all the other heroes I loved.
So I am too have strong feelings about him and how he should behave and be presented.

Edit: ARGHHHH!
I just learned that due to FIFA Confederations Cup, we will only be getting this movie here on July 12th, instead o June 14th! GAH!
I want to kill someone.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Jmorphman on April 17, 2013, 07:26:24 pm
Edit: ARGHHHH!
I just learned that due to FIFA Confederations Cup, we will only be getting this movie here on July 12th, instead o June 14th! GAH!
I want to kill someone.
That's completely fucking insane. :|
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Bea on April 17, 2013, 07:48:34 pm
Edit: ARGHHHH!
I just learned that due to FIFA Confederations Cup, we will only be getting this movie here on July 12th, instead o June 14th! GAH!
I want to kill someone.
That's completely fucking insane. :|
It gets worse.
The official excuse for delaying the movie is that they are afraid of low attendance numbers because they'll competing with effing soccer.
That's ridiculous. :|
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Joulz on April 28, 2013, 11:51:07 pm
haha
and this why soccer IS a religion in Brazil, thanks in part to the Great Pelé :p
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: just how much can we botch Justice League?
Post by: Memo on April 28, 2013, 11:57:09 pm
Im looking foward to this movie, Really like the trailer.  I just hope they dont Fu$k it up like Iron Man 3
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on May 04, 2013, 11:57:17 am
SPOILERS IN LINK DONT ENTER
SPOILERS REGARDING RUMOUR ABOUT MOVIE DiRECTION

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on May 04, 2013, 12:23:00 pm
... Dear Dagon, let that not be true.
This movie is showing to be promising, so much that I have been working hard to ignore the lack of red underpants, but if they do that, all the good work they have shown so far is thrown away. :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: GOH on May 04, 2013, 03:29:34 pm
That is really worrying news to say this least. The trailer footage made me feel really confident for the movie, but if that rumour is true.. I have doubts it would work.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on May 04, 2013, 04:37:50 pm
it kinda goes well with earlier reports that
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on May 04, 2013, 05:42:17 pm
Wait... what? I can't be reading that.
That can't be true at all, merciful Cthulhu! If that's really a part of the movie, then it is lost.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Roman55 on May 04, 2013, 06:02:10 pm
What the hell Warner Bros >________>
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on May 04, 2013, 11:49:27 pm
there is a weird rumour going on that he is never adressed as superman in the movie besides the trailer scene where Lois cracks a joke about his name, even the toys being sold are dubbed "MAN OF STEEL" but i cant believe nolan would go this far.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on May 05, 2013, 12:08:01 am
That is likely due some copyrights fight with the holders of Siegel spoils, so they removed every reference to the Superman name from the movie.
The issue seems to be resolved now but they won't change the movie for that.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Joulz on May 05, 2013, 12:36:46 am
how could they actually start production on a movie of this scale (WB / Snyder / Nolan) and not have the fucking rights to use the Superman name? O_o
that is a very scary thought (think Smallville...) which makes absolutely no sense
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Roman55 on May 05, 2013, 12:39:36 am
So this movie is about .. a Steel Man ? No Superman name, no Superman origin .....
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on May 05, 2013, 01:03:14 am
how could they actually start production on a movie of this scale (WB / Snyder / Nolan) and not have the fucking rights to use the Superman name? O_o
that is a very scary thought (think Smallville...) which makes absolutely no sense

Oh, they had the rights to the name, but the Siegel family wanted more money for the use of the name or something akin to that.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on May 06, 2013, 08:58:34 pm
no Superman origin .....
That better not be the spoiler. .\/.

The "not gonna call him Superman" rumor sounds fake as hell.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Retro Respecter on May 08, 2013, 03:31:05 am
Too much controversy for  taste. Let us just hope that this movie is good.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: GOH on May 08, 2013, 10:05:41 am
Thanks for that zero-substance post Jimmy.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: DatKofGuy on May 14, 2013, 04:15:50 pm
some new footage
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/176895-man-of-steels-super-powers-discussed-in-three-featurettes
Title: YOU ARE NOT ALONE
Post by: Iced on May 23, 2013, 12:15:24 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlOF03DUoWc
new trailer up showing off zod spaceship

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on May 23, 2013, 12:58:12 am
Why does Zod has HG Wells War of the Worlds spaceships?
And why is his voice so weak and pathetic, and most important of all, why is he not telling people to kneel before Zod? D:
Title: MAN OF STEEL LAST TRAILER AMAZING
Post by: logansam on May 23, 2013, 01:07:50 am

Welcome back superman


http://youtu.be/NlOF03DUoWc


Title: Re: MAN OF STEEL LAST TRAILER AMAZING
Post by: Generic Main Character on May 23, 2013, 01:15:08 am
Okay, THAT was impressive.
Title: Re: MAN OF STEEL LAST TRAILER AMAZING
Post by: Person Man on May 23, 2013, 01:26:19 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordbutterfly.png[/avatar]So impressive I'm going to go ahead and merge this into the DC movie thread where that was already posted.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on May 23, 2013, 09:44:01 am
Why does Zod has HG Wells War of the Worlds spaceships?
And why is his voice so weak and pathetic, and most important of all, why is he not telling people to kneel before Zod? D:
The spaceship doesn't look much like any depictions of a tripod that I've ever seen. :-\

And don't be bad mouthing Michael motherfucking Shannon! Plus, abusing the kneel line just makes it lose all power.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on May 24, 2013, 01:17:10 am
http://glyphcreator.manofsteel.com/

     Posted: May 24, 2013, 01:38:59 am
(http://i.imgur.com/ILhW3dJ.jpg)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUwkqeI7XWk
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: AerosMugen on May 24, 2013, 04:31:14 pm
Oh shit, expect Polar Bears!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Roman55 on May 24, 2013, 04:33:18 pm
That dude and his obsession with spiders.

Give him a remake of Tarantula already.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on May 26, 2013, 02:20:15 am
Do note that Peters was also a producer on Returns. He almost certainly has no influence on this, and is probably only listed because lolHollywood.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on May 26, 2013, 12:47:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXOqXVSRZrQ

Okay, this looks interesting. But I do hope that this doesn't mean that Jor El is still alive.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on May 26, 2013, 12:55:22 pm
Got a new tv spot.

this one is very recent , has unseen footage=>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zGLCiSGJBk
Title: Superman is back yesssssssssss 2 tv spot
Post by: logansam on May 27, 2013, 08:17:41 pm
YESSSSSSSSSSSSS     welcome back


http://youtu.be/9NjZn8ToxGw (http://youtu.be/9NjZn8ToxGw)


Another one


http://youtu.be/6m5A-9Jbkd0 (http://youtu.be/6m5A-9Jbkd0)
Title: Re: Superman is back yesssssssssss 2 tv spot
Post by: Mechy on May 27, 2013, 08:19:07 pm
Already a thread for this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Person Man on May 27, 2013, 08:46:42 pm
Did you not get the message last time you tried this?  Stop making new threads for every new Man Of Steel thing.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on May 29, 2013, 06:58:05 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXOqXVSRZrQ

Okay, this looks interesting. But I do hope that this doesn't mean that Jor El is still alive.
Probably a computer simulation or holographic recording like in the 70s/80s movies and Smallville.

Let's just hope he doesn't go running to get th e advice of his dead robot parents every time he's in trouble!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Aki-Sora on May 29, 2013, 10:17:27 am


Cyborg BatMan
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on May 29, 2013, 01:06:51 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXOqXVSRZrQ

Okay, this looks interesting. But I do hope that this doesn't mean that Jor El is still alive.
Probably a computer simulation or holographic recording like in the 70s/80s movies and Smallville.

Let's just hope he doesn't go running to get th e advice of his dead robot parents every time he's in trouble!

why would his dead parent simulations be shown dressing up in war armor then?
Well I guess it could be an elaborate flashback.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on May 30, 2013, 08:37:15 am
Where was he dressing up anywhere? The thing at the end? He was just showing off his manly chest. Er, crest. Crest.

Anyways, if I missed it, Kryptonian dead father simulators are weird.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on May 30, 2013, 05:34:36 pm
there is a bit with the chest armor piece closing down on his chest and you can see the bearded chin, with latches and stuff, i will point out the timestamp when im home again.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Byakko on May 31, 2013, 01:38:31 am
http://www.youtube.com/gillette?x=us-en_manofsteel
Gillette's going after the big "how does Superman shave" question, and they have Conan O'Brien, Bill Nye, MythBuster, that girl from Big Bang Theory pitch their theory. And then you vote.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on May 31, 2013, 01:43:22 am
there is a bit with the chest armor piece closing down on his chest and you can see the bearded chin, with latches and stuff, i will point out the timestamp when im home again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zGLCiSGJBk&feature=player_detailpage#t=17s

the camera quality isnt that good I guess it might be someone other than zod or jor, but he is wearing the armor I talked about.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on May 31, 2013, 01:53:07 am
http://www.youtube.com/gillette?x=us-en_manofsteel
Gillette's going after the big "how does Superman shave" question, and they have Conan O'Brien, Bill Nye, MythBuster, that girl from Big Bang Theory pitch their theory. And then you vote.

I had to go with Bill Nye there.
It is an interesting publicity stunt. Nice to see them being creative.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Byakko on May 31, 2013, 02:04:09 am
Yeah, same here. It's goofy, it's blatant and shameless publicity, but it's funny enough and they put a lot of effort in it with all those people.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on May 31, 2013, 11:12:11 pm
first ( advanced screening ) reviews are in and its

Quote
"There's a reason why they told us not to tweet about the movie we just saw: IT'S TERRIBLE!!!

Oh no!
Quote
Also it definitely fails the Bechdel Test. Seriously can big budget movies create a decent role for a woman? It's getting pretty ridiculous."

Oh wait, false alarm.
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=80599
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Roman55 on June 01, 2013, 12:15:43 am
Quote
Bechdel Test.

are you serious

Granted, people knew Lois was gonna be underwritten due to it being focused more on Clark.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Byakko on June 01, 2013, 12:20:28 am
Of course they're serious, it's a movie about Superman and Zod but it needs two women who talk about something completely unrelated. It's fine as long as they talk about shoes or taxes or house repair. Just to take away from the plot, they can't talk about the plot or else it would look like they're talking about a man (the horror). Clearly the only solution is : they can't be... relevant, good job.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: walt on June 01, 2013, 12:40:32 am
Still mildly hype, still watching it in IMAX Digital 3D once it comes out.

/me crosses fingers not to regret this decision later on
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on June 01, 2013, 02:13:08 am
http://www.youtube.com/gillette?x=us-en_manofsteel
Gillette's going after the big "how does Superman shave" question, and they have Conan O'Brien, Bill Nye, MythBuster, that girl from Big Bang Theory pitch their theory. And then you vote.
HE SHAVES BY REFLECTING HIS HEAT VISION OFF A KRYPTONIAN MIRROR, THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE, PEOPLE >:[

... that said, the mirror was created using a porthole from a rocket!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zGLCiSGJBk&feature=player_detailpage#t=17s
the camera quality isnt that good I guess it might be someone other than zod or jor, but he is wearing the armor I talked about.
Yeah that just looks like a flashback, and given that the flashbacks look to be fairly extensive (and they kind of have to be, to introduce Krypton, the El family, Zod, Zod's army, why Krypton is exploding and why no one believes Jor-El, and the rocket Jor-El builds), it's pretty reasonable to assume Jor-El will be suiting up at some point.

first ( advanced screening ) reviews are in and its
Quote
"There's a reason why they told us not to tweet about the movie we just saw: IT'S TERRIBLE!!!
Why would you only quote the one bad review. :pwn:

Quote
Bechdel Test.
are you serious
Well hey now, while it is by no means a sure test of anything, it's a pretty good thought experiment. But a movie that's trying to reintroduce Superman and make him meaningful to a general audience is not one of occasions in which it is very useful, I think.

Too bad that Lois doesn't do much, she's awesome and needs to be portrayed that way. Hopefully the sequel will have her busting up some evil scheme. And hey, since Jimmy is a girl, maybe that will get them to pass the Bechdel test in this hypothetical sequel!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on June 01, 2013, 12:43:39 pm
Wait, Jimmy is a girl instead of a crossdresser?
Such a lost opportunity. :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Joulz on June 01, 2013, 09:45:37 pm
this movie WILL be awesome: it HAS to...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on June 02, 2013, 04:53:01 am
Wait, Jimmy is a girl instead of a crossdresser?
Such a lost opportunity. :(
Jimmy is gonna get marginalized in the movies, girl or not. Hopefully heshe'll get more notice than in previous movies, where Olsen was mostly a gloried extra. :-\
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 07, 2013, 07:30:27 am
hey, a fight scene
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/177353-new-fight-clip-from-man-of-steel-hits
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: GOH on June 07, 2013, 10:19:54 am
For a second I thought there was gonna be a super powered 3310 in a fight scene.

NOKIA

CONNECTING PEOPLE HUUURRRRGGGGAAAHHH
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: guy-zero32k4 on June 08, 2013, 02:40:52 pm
It seems kinda overkill for Zod to be in first movie, but fuck it, atleast to start things off with a bang I guess.

I'm trying to keep an open mind to watch this movie, but the costume is what kills it for me.   I don't like the casting of Lois either myself.     May pass on this one and wait for DVD.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on June 08, 2013, 07:25:54 pm
conan gave up on the movie because of several terrible things
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ5DwzVdbWE

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Byakko on June 08, 2013, 07:35:08 pm
The whole thing's over there. That video was the setup for this. Actually I just realized it's not in it, I thought it was...
http://www.youtube.com/gillette?x=us-en_manofsteel
Gillette's going after the big "how does Superman shave" question, and they have Conan O'Brien, Bill Nye, MythBuster, that girl from Big Bang Theory pitch their theory. And then you vote.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: guy-zero32k4 on June 09, 2013, 02:34:33 pm
 Method kevin Smith said doesn't buy:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v702/guy-zero32k4/smos-087.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/guy-zero32k4/media/smos-087.jpg.html)

Metal or this way, I'd warrent.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 10:39:10 pm
Man of Steel sequel is getting fast-tracked. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/man-of-steel-sequel-and-justice-league-are-looking,98856/) and Goyer is going to rewrite the JL movie.

I dunno. Uh... MoS was like at 68% on Rotten Tomatoes? That's something. I got nothing. Stop looking at me.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: walt on June 12, 2013, 11:03:16 pm
It's gotta be something like XMEN -> XMEN 2 where they require to have a crappy origins movie to set up the characters and universe, then action pack the second one ... as if they were a single movie.

I am okay with this, if this is the case.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2013, 07:06:14 am
Eh, X-Men 1 isn't what I call would crappy, it's pretty good but not great. Magneto's plan and most of the third act is pretty dumb, but even then the third act's worst parts are watchable and the best (Cyclops: "how do I know you're the real Wolverine" Wolverine: "you're a dick") are great.

So if it's anything like X-Men 1.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: AerosMugen on June 13, 2013, 03:57:18 pm
I recently re watched Xmen 1 and it is way better than I remember.

MoS got a preview for media people here on thuesday, they all were possitive about it, I'll be watching it on saturday.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Malikai on June 14, 2013, 09:57:51 am
Best Movie I've seen this year. The music was spectacular especially during the epic moments.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on June 14, 2013, 12:17:55 pm
Yay... I've got to wait till July to watch it due to the FIFA Confederations Cup that starts tomorrow. -_-
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Mgbenz on June 14, 2013, 08:46:49 pm
Spoiled myself on the ending. It'll really piss of a lot of Superman purists.

Even Mark Waid didn't like it.

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/06/14/superman-birthrights-mark-waid-man-of-steel-broke-my-heart/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on June 14, 2013, 09:01:45 pm
Well that significantly deflated my expectations. And I didn't even read the article or see what the ending was, because spoilers. Just the fact that Mark Waid said it broke his heart... sigh. :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on June 14, 2013, 09:07:21 pm
I read the full review, and well, I will likely not be watching it on the silver screen because it is not a Superman movie anymore.
Not after what they've done.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Duos.act on June 14, 2013, 09:20:44 pm
I read the full review, and well, I will likely not be watching it on the silver screen because it is not a Superman movie anymore.
Not after what they've done.

Link me to it please, I'd like to know what I'm getting myself into.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on June 14, 2013, 09:32:02 pm
Link me to it please, I'd like to know what I'm getting myself into.

There you go:
http://thrillbent.com/blog/man-of-steel-since-you-asked/ <-- This link contains spoilers. Many, many spoilers.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: GOH on June 14, 2013, 09:34:06 pm
I'll probably still watch it on the big screen. Even though I'll regret watching "that part" when it comes. The rest of the movie seems great though. Oh well.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Aldo on June 14, 2013, 09:34:16 pm
I´ll most likely see it anyways even with that ending (I´m pretty sure I won´t get it) cause it really caught my attention. Thank god I´m not a Superman purist.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: GOH on June 14, 2013, 09:36:37 pm
I'm pretty sure most people who are not into Superman stuff are still gonna think it's rather strange.

My mom for instance is a big fan of the Christopher Reeves' version, and I know for sure that she's not gonna like this change.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Aldo on June 14, 2013, 09:39:13 pm
We´ll see, we´ll see. And that will have to be next week cause to see premiers in here, you need good contacts :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Duos.act on June 14, 2013, 09:39:50 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: GOH on June 14, 2013, 09:43:37 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on June 14, 2013, 09:45:12 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Jmorphman on June 14, 2013, 09:53:21 pm
I'm not gonna check this topic again until I see the movie but here is this:

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/06/14/man-of-steel-brought-tears-of-joy-to-lets-be-friends-agains-chris-haley/

It gave me a tiny bit of hope.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Byakko on June 14, 2013, 10:21:47 pm
I was going to watch it, now I'm not, even though I'm not a die-hard Superman fan or even a die-hard comic books fan. In general I despise city-wide destruction in a movie about a superhero that's supposed to save everyone, and aliens invading with giant ships. With all the talk about this being very intimate with the character, I expected that part to be good and the bulk of the movie. But the spoilers I read from that guy up here whose heart this movie broke are exactly the kind of things I really don't want to be in a movie like that.
I'm not even really saying that so much about the final bit, but overall. Incidentally, I actually don't mind the version in the image at the bottom of this link (SPOILERS) http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/06/14/controversy-over-the-climatic-battle-of-man-of-steel-spoilers/ (SPOILERS) because the text makes it sound like it works.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Roman55 on June 14, 2013, 10:31:02 pm
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Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Joulz on June 15, 2013, 03:00:52 am
mmmmh i'm not really concerned by these type of reviews: i'll make the judge of it myself when i see it full on on the big screen in 2 days!
thing is we do not know how the story unfolds from beginning to end since no one here has seen it yet, so there is a (slim) possibility that the last tier of the movie makes kind of sense (fingers crossed), depending on how the story/character evolved through the first 2 tiers: i mean, the explanation could just be that because of all the all-out destruction & mayhem he did not control, Superman becomes the Superman we know afterwards ??
can't wait to see it though (just the explanation of the chest Shields made me happy)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Malikai on June 16, 2013, 05:11:54 pm
While I respect his review I'm inclined to disagree with Mark.
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Post by: Joulz on June 16, 2013, 07:14:11 pm
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Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Roman55 on June 16, 2013, 07:15:56 pm
Didn't see it in 3-D (saving that money for Pacific Rim) so I can't tell you.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on June 17, 2013, 09:29:18 pm
I'm not gonna check this topic again until I see the movie but here is this:

http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/06/14/man-of-steel-brought-tears-of-joy-to-lets-be-friends-agains-chris-haley/

It gave me a tiny bit of hope.

Given how you're either as much as a Superman fan as I am, or even a bigger Superman fan than I am, I will be waiting your opinion about it to decide whether I will watch it on the silver screen or not.

Still a month to go here anyway... Star Trek into the Darkness is premiering this weekend around here... >.>
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: walt on June 17, 2013, 09:39:02 pm
Given how you're either as much as a Superman fan as I am, or even a bigger Superman fan than I am, I will be waiting your opinion about it to decide whether I will watch it on the silver screen or not.
Come on, everything I've heard from the laymen is all good feedback. There's no reason not to watch this movie, which is clearly loads better than 'Returns' :P

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on June 17, 2013, 09:53:44 pm
I have read good things about it, yes.
But all I have read so far makes it feel like it lacks Superman soul. Even Netherrealms Superman cared about collateral damage, while this one flies Zod through buildings with people inside without caring a tiny bit.

That is why I may not see it. It bears the Superman name, but delivers something more akin to a earth 3 Ultraman who is a hero instead of a villain (even the uniform is very similar :P)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: GOH on June 18, 2013, 10:17:42 am
I will be waiting your opinion about it to decide whether I will watch it on the silver screen or not.
Prepare to never watch anything in anywhere.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: walt on June 18, 2013, 03:20:57 pm
More like "Prepare to watch old Community episodes on Netflix" amirite?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Bea on June 18, 2013, 03:23:36 pm
That will only count for this "Superman" movie, since he decided to make the sacrifice of seeing it. :P
If he likes it, it is quite likely that I will too then, since we share the same idea about who and what Superman is.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Aldo on June 20, 2013, 04:32:30 am
So watched the movie and I gotta say I really liked it, the action scenes, the plot, pretty interesting backstory. Huge step over previous ones IMO

And 3 things (Spoilers motherfucker, open at your own risk)

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I call comic geeks upon me!!
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Post by: Speedpreacher on June 20, 2013, 04:45:46 am
Comics expert Hat ON!

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Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: SNT on June 20, 2013, 05:05:20 am
So the Phantom Zone in MoS is just a regular remote patch of uninhabited space?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Mgbenz on June 21, 2013, 03:16:55 pm
Comics expert Hat ON!

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Still doesn't explain all the pointless collateral damage.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 21, 2013, 06:16:44 pm
Still doesn't explain all the pointless collateral damage.

You can explain with the fact that one of the combatants was so filled with rage he was literally going up the side of a building on all fours like a monkey and the other had to deal with that the best he could.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Iced on June 21, 2013, 06:27:04 pm


Still doesn't explain all the pantless collateral damage.

fixed.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Xhominid on June 24, 2013, 10:24:56 pm
I watched the movie yesterday and I absolutely love it and while I do see all the criticism...I don't agree with it at all.
But I won't go into those and go into the main issues I see people have:

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Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Byakko on June 24, 2013, 10:31:41 pm
The criticism isn't about the act itself but how it came around for Superman. Also entire city destroyed and Superman seemingly not caring.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Xhominid on June 25, 2013, 09:25:33 am
The criticism isn't about the act itself but how it came around for Superman. Also entire city destroyed and Superman seemingly not caring.

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Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Byakko on June 25, 2013, 09:39:15 am
The point is the apparent lack of interest/care. Especially if he's new at this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Joulz on June 26, 2013, 01:29:08 am
agreed with Byakko:

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Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: You'll believe Man of Steel might be good
Post by: Long John Killer on June 26, 2013, 02:13:09 am
D.C. made a little list of most of the easter eggs in the movie. (http://www.dccomics.com/blog/2013/06/25/superman-month-man-of-steel-moments)

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Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on June 26, 2013, 08:36:17 am
Are we still doing spoilers or what.

Spoiler: this is really long, you don't have to read it and honestly you will probably be better off if you didn't (click to see content)

Given how you're either as much as a Superman fan as I am, or even a bigger Superman fan than I am, I will be waiting your opinion about it to decide whether I will watch it on the silver screen or not.
!!! That's too much responsibility!

Hmm, well, you already know about the bad stuff, though seeing will probably be more rage-inducing than just reading it. But it does have parts of a good movie in here, and the action is really great (even though the cinematography as a whole and color palette suck hard)... I dunno? Maybe?

Oh, I know! There is a scene of buff, shirtless Cavill. On the big screen. Yes.

Prepare to never watch anything in anywhere.
More like "Prepare to watch old Community episodes on Netflix" amirite?
You will die. Slowly. And painfully.

>:[

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So where is this Man of Steel digital prequel comic?

Also, big news. Legendary Studios is severing its ties from Warner Bros. (http://www.comicsalliance.com/2013/06/25/warner-bros-legendary-split-up/) They did all three Nolan Batman movies and MoS. So... this is a pretty big deal. I think this means Nolan probably won't be involved with the sequel? Maybe?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: walt on June 26, 2013, 03:44:42 pm
wow, it's hard to reply to a Jmorphman post ... you really need to read 7 articles all by different authors and postures, and 60+ lines of text written by Jmorphman himself. It's like a Doctorate's final project essay.

I tried man, sorry.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Bea on June 26, 2013, 08:15:35 pm
I see.
You make some fair points, Jmorph. And you sold me with the "buff, shirtless Cavill. On the big screen. Yes" bit. I ought to see this.
I think I will watch the first 2/3rds of the movie that everyone seems to agree that is decent then lay down and think of England to endure the last third of the movie.

But... don't tell me they made the colours even more washed out than Returns. It was pretty terrible and dull at Returns as it was.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Iced on June 27, 2013, 04:04:38 am
Breaking my no macro tradition.
I saw this, and thought of Bea and JM
(http://i.imgur.com/zEaoWYo.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on June 27, 2013, 04:11:35 am
doesn't using a macro mean you have to give up your amulet or something

wow, it's hard to reply to a Jmorphman post ... you really need to read 7 articles all by different authors and postures, and 60+ lines of text written by Jmorphman himself. It's like a Doctorate's final project essay.

I tried man, sorry.
I'm sorry for so inconveniencing you. I'll try to think about how you will react before I post things.

I see.
You make some fair points, Jmorph. And you sold me with the "buff, shirtless Cavill. On the big screen. Yes" bit. I ought to see this.
I think I will watch the first 2/3rds of the movie that everyone seems to agree that is decent then lay down and think of England to endure the last third of the movie.
I was just kinda joking with the shirtless thing. It's not THAT long, and not really worth it. The things actually worth seeing it for are the Kent family scenes (even with as badly written Pa Kent is, Costner almost makes it work), the visuals of Krypton, and the fight scenes (even with the destruction, the actual fighting is fantastic)

But... don't tell me they made the colours even more washed out than Returns. It was pretty terrible and dull at Returns as it was.
They found a way!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: walt on June 27, 2013, 03:27:22 pm
wow, it's hard to reply to a Jmorphman post ... you really need to read 7 articles all by different authors and postures, and 60+ lines of text written by Jmorphman himself. It's like a Doctorate's final project essay.

I tried man, sorry.
I'm sorry for so inconveniencing you. I'll try to think about how you will react before I post things.
No seriously, sarcasm aside, you really need to work on your ability to synthesize your ideas into readable bits. Otherwise you'll find yourself interacting with the same handful of people who already got used to work on your essays. This is a forum man, think of the kids.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Bea on June 27, 2013, 03:37:05 pm
I was just kinda joking with the shirtless thing. It's not THAT long, and not really worth it. The things actually worth seeing it for are the Kent family scenes (even with as badly written Pa Kent is, Costner almost makes it work), the visuals of Krypton, and the fight scenes (even with the destruction, the actual fighting is fantastic)

But... don't tell me they made the colours even more washed out than Returns. It was pretty terrible and dull at Returns as it was.
They found a way!

Well, shirtless Chris Hemsworth scene on Thor wasn't that long either, but made the movie worth watching. :P
So that is still a saving grace for the movie.

And... how did they? D:
Did the shoot the movie in sepia or something?

Superman is mean to be colourful. He wear blue, yellow and red, for Odin's sake!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on June 28, 2013, 07:29:34 am
No seriously, sarcasm aside, you really need to work on your ability to synthesize your ideas into readable bits. Otherwise you'll find yourself interacting with the same handful of people who already got used to work on your essays. This is a forum man, think of the kids.
If you can't read just over 500 words of a few random thoughts separated by paragraphs, then I'm very sorry for you. It ain't hard. :I
[avatar]http://network.mugenguild.com/jmorphman/images/SignAvatar/Bright_IncredulousBurger.png[/avatar]
And... how did they? D:
Did the shoot the movie in sepia or something?

Superman is mean to be colourful. He wear blue, yellow and red, for Odin's sake!
The color balance is really bad, I dunno what the point of making everything so blue and dreary was.

I think it's funny that the colors on the costume of evil drunk Superman in Superman III, which was all dark and dull (because of course that's what happens when Superman gets hit with fake kryptonite that turns him bad), was actually brighter than both Superman Returns and Man of Steel.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Bea on June 29, 2013, 02:50:11 am
This seems to describe the movie perfectly.
http://io9.com/the-most-important-scenes-from-man-of-steel-as-i-remem-516405346

Spoilers, obviously. :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on July 10, 2013, 01:32:00 am
Hey guys, I don't want to interrupt your discussion about Man of Steel, but I recently saw that Stephen "Arrow" Amell is open to keep making Oliver Queen for an eventual Justice League movie (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=82929#LLB4QlIGqD15wBgd.01) :)

That's all, keep talking about Man of Steel :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Byakko on July 10, 2013, 01:41:42 am
That was to be expected, he worked well in his standalone series after a little while of finding his rhythm (making his backstory and style believable but still throw in tons of references) and he likes his character. But he'll really need to have his character lighten up a lot in a Justice League setup, more like the "funny guy" he is in most JL cartoons. Especially if he doesn't need all his angst when out of town. The attitude he has in the series would have to be given back to Batman. I hope he'll be all "what am I even doing here" next to Superman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Joulz on July 10, 2013, 03:14:45 am
talking about Batman btw, in your opinion, why would they introduce Gordon-Levitt to Batman's lair in the end? i understand it might have been a studio pleaser (because they already had a JL movie in mind) but since Christopher Nolan had already decided at The Dark Knight he would not be continuing, why would he make such a connection? it seems pointless, in addition to the fact that the studios don't seem to be willing to use Levitt, so far anyway?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on July 10, 2013, 06:37:07 am
Having Arrow set-up JL movie stuff and/or having Stephen Amell appear as "the Hood" in a JL movie would make tons and tons of sense. So of course, DC/Warner will not do it at all.

Hey guys, I don't want to interrupt your discussion about Man of Steel
the one that's two weeks old, right

talking about Batman btw, in your opinion, why would they introduce Gordon-Levitt to Batman's lair in the end? i understand it might have been a studio pleaser (because they already had a JL movie in mind) but since Christopher Nolan had already decided at The Dark Knight he would not be continuing, why would he make such a connection? it seems pointless, in addition to the fact that the studios don't seem to be willing to use Levitt, so far anyway?
I doubt Nolan included it because of studio pressure. The whole point of that scene is to show that Batman's legacy is secure, and that (sigh) Robin Blake will carry on the mantle.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Bea on July 12, 2013, 02:11:44 pm
Going to watch it tonight...
Wish me luck. I will need it.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Roman55 on July 20, 2013, 08:06:20 pm
Superman/Batman film to be revealed at Comic Con. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/superman-batman-film-set-comic-589521)

Unfortunately, it's Zach Snyder's baby. This won't end well. Not at all...

(also Flash and Justice League movies planned)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Joulz on July 20, 2013, 08:39:23 pm
oh so they abandoned plans to release a JL movie at the time Avengers 2 comes out? good, it will allow them to not rush this shit
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Roman55 on July 20, 2013, 10:32:51 pm
(http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news/38622/_1374352275.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: SlySuavity on July 21, 2013, 01:05:00 am
Can't say I'm particularly fond of this; for being so soon after establishing MoS, it pretty much seems like a cash grab more than anything else. The Avengers worked wonderfully as it did because Marvel developed a very strong mythos in film canon, prior to tackling said blockbuster. If anything, the only thing I can say is good on Bale for ditching the bat for having no Nolan.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Bea on July 21, 2013, 02:31:09 am
Considering who is ahead of it, and how I felt when I saw MoS, I am actually terrified by this idea.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on July 21, 2013, 04:23:36 am
Can't say I'm particularly fond of this; for being so soon after establishing MoS, it pretty much seems like a cash grab more than anything else. The Avengers worked wonderfully as it did because Marvel developed a very strong mythos in film canon, prior to tackling said blockbuster.
This is no more of a cash grab than any other superhero movie. :I

And really, it makes much more sense to do a World's Finest movie before jumping into Justice League, especially if it is taking the place of MoS2. You can introduce the new Batman, hint at the JL movie, etc.

So I guess they'll save introducing Wonder Woman for JL (because "Wonder Woman is so hard to do", which is bullshit, but whatever). Green Lantern is who knows. It'd be dumb to bring back Ryan Reynolds, but... Warner Bros. Flash gets his own movie, which makes sense, since he's vaguely familiar (around Captain America level, pre-Marvel movies). So who else would be on the roster? Everyone knows Aquaman, and DC has a boner for yelling loudly that he's totally cool you guys. He's probably a lock. Martian Manhunter might get tossed in favor of Cyborg, though.

I just can't help feeling excited about Superman and Batman finally getting to be onscreen together. It's ludicrous it took this long.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on July 31, 2013, 05:43:13 am
The creators of Arrow have been tapped to do a Flash series (http://comicsalliance.com/cw-arrow-team-the-flash-spinoff-tv-show-series/), which will probably be called Runner, star a guy in a red hoodie who is really into snapping people's necks, and I don't know whether they're gonna tie this into their not-really-existing cinematic universe.

So uh yeah I dunno.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Neocide on July 31, 2013, 05:48:13 am
arrow is good, but a flash show? didn't they try this in the 90's? I'm not sure this is going to come out right....
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on August 14, 2013, 12:08:05 am
This is a cool news, but I think Breaking Bad fans would enjoy this more (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=85357) :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Joulz on August 14, 2013, 12:22:29 am
as much as i absolutely LOVE Bryan Cranston, i would actually choose Mark Strong: he just looks like an awesome bad guy, with a corporate quality too

EDIT: also the age difference might matter in the long run
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: walt on August 14, 2013, 12:34:02 am
jeez, I can't make up my mind out of those 2 choices.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Roman55 on August 14, 2013, 01:10:58 am
as much as i absolutely LOVE Bryan Cranston, i would actually choose Mark Strong: he just looks like an awesome bad guy, with a corporate quality too
Same here. I like Cranston but I can't see him as Luthor.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on August 14, 2013, 01:17:20 am
But who would've thought Hal from Malcolm in the Middle could become the one who knocks? I think he'd knock it out of the park, personally.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Neocide on August 14, 2013, 01:29:15 am
yea ditto, he has a lot of range, and I think he could nail all the different dimensions of Luthor perfectly.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Joulz on August 14, 2013, 01:37:32 am
But who would've thought Hal from Malcolm in the Middle could become the one who knocks? I think he'd knock it out of the park, personally.

oh don't get me wrong: Cranston would be terrific, i'm sure...i just feel Strong would fit better in the world they are trying to create with MoS

also, Cranston has always been a terrific actor: people tend to forget (or just don't know) that he is not only "that crazy father" or "that chemist who deals crystal meth"... his voice is awesome & he has made a loooot of TV appearances/movies (even if not big hits, his performances were mostly spot on)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on August 14, 2013, 01:41:30 am
his voice is awesome & he has made a loooot of TV appearances/movies (even if not big hits, his performances were mostly spot on)
I just found out like a day ago that he voiced Isamu Dyson in the dub of Macross Plus, which has now officially replaced "David Hayter aka Solid Snake voiced Bernie in Gundam 0080" as the craziest mecha anime casting I've seen.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Roman55 on August 14, 2013, 01:44:31 am
Speaking of his voice. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MQ0rDcZAtw)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Joulz on August 14, 2013, 01:51:46 am
I just found out like a day ago that he voiced Isamu Dyson in the dub of Macross Plus, which has now officially replaced "David Hayter aka Solid Snake voiced Bernie in Gundam 0080" as the craziest mecha anime casting I've seen.

damn

talking about this guy reminds me of that episode were he almost defeated The Flash  :)
aaaaah the childhood memories
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Titiln on August 23, 2013, 03:33:04 am
and the new batman is http://variety.com/2013/film/news/ben-affleck-is-the-new-batman-1200586881/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 23, 2013, 03:37:42 am
I don't know how I feel but I'm pretty sure it's mad.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Bea on August 23, 2013, 03:46:54 am
Warner/DC execs... go home... y'all drunk...

I already had low expectations for that movie. Now they have sunk to be even lower. It is so low that it is about to roll back into positive due to integer overflow... :'(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Luis Alejandro on August 23, 2013, 03:56:10 am
Matt damon as robin  :buttrox:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: QuickFist on August 23, 2013, 03:59:15 am
That is insane, Affleck is better director than actor, that's one of the worst choises for Batman. I'd rather go with Ryan Gonsling who's a much better actor than Affleck
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Nero D. on August 23, 2013, 04:00:03 am
^
^
i will personally come for you if that happens, which is possible, which scares me
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on August 23, 2013, 04:08:05 am
Please tell me this is a nightmare.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: D'Evil on August 23, 2013, 04:10:22 am
and the new batman is http://variety.com/2013/film/news/ben-affleck-is-the-new-batman-1200586881/

Dead.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on August 23, 2013, 04:12:06 am
...
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Post by: Speedpreacher on August 23, 2013, 04:13:53 am
...

I know, right?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Roman55 on August 23, 2013, 04:23:50 am
Are we experiencing a mass nightmare or something?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Cobra Caddie on August 23, 2013, 04:26:37 am
Not as bad as Ryan Reynolds as Hal. Almost though. Weird choice casting mostly comedic actors as superhero leads.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: SlySuavity on August 23, 2013, 04:35:33 am
It's hard to be positive, it's... just hard man. :qq:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Neocide on August 23, 2013, 04:46:44 am
this is george clooney all over again.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Nero D. on August 23, 2013, 04:58:46 am
and with that im banking on jay and silent bob to play the riddler and penguin respectively
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Joulz on August 23, 2013, 05:11:30 am
this is george clooney all over again.

this.
wtf is going on? wasn't Daredevil an already enough hint? fuuuuuck
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 23, 2013, 05:20:32 am
The only thing I can think of is that this has something to do with the rumors about him directing Justice League. He either is, and they were able to get him to play Batman for less than another big name actor would be... or he isn't, and this is his consolation prize from Warner Bros.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Joulz on August 23, 2013, 05:58:26 am
also, it might have to do with Warner Bros. producing 2 of his successful directed movies: The Town and Argo...they have a nice business partnership going on.
now, passed the shock, let's see:
- he is not the same actor as he was at the Daredevil time (he played some somewhat dark characters)
- he is in the right age
- he could bulk up

it can't be as bad as the batnipples, the Ghostrider Cage or the Green Reynolds...? can it? CAAAAN IT?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Roman55 on August 23, 2013, 06:08:20 am
To be fair, he was alright as Daredevil (as long as you watch the Director's Cut).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Joulz on August 23, 2013, 06:12:42 am
the only good thing in this movie was Michael Clarke Duncan. (imo)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: QuickFist on August 23, 2013, 06:15:23 am
the only good thing in this movie was Michael Clarke Duncan. (imo)

Seconded
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Neocide on August 23, 2013, 06:29:36 am
he was good in the directors cut of DD, but MM and bruce are two different characters.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on August 23, 2013, 07:22:05 am
Colin Farrell as crazy Irish Bullseye was alright.

So, putting aside the casting (to spare my brain), this "Batman is much older than Superman" business... I dunno, it seems weird to me, but potentially interesting, I guess?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 23, 2013, 07:36:43 am
I don't know what it is, but I've always felt like Batman's older than Superman. Probably because they never do pure reboots for Batman in the comics so he inevitably seems to have done a lot more over his career.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on August 23, 2013, 07:48:55 am
Superman is usually portrayed as the first superhero to debut (with Batman following shortly), or at the least, the first modern superhero*. Bruce Wayne may or might not be portrayed as being older, but I can't recall a version of Batman that was explicitly described as being around before Superman was.

Or wait, maybe the DCAU? Batman had been running around for a few years before the first BTAS episode. And Martha Kent mentions "some nut in Gotham" at some point in third part of the three-episode origin story, so... I dunno! Maybe they debuted around the same time, but never met until World's Finest? This obviously calls for me to watch the episode in question, because this is incredibly important. (I'm actually serious. I think. Oh god I have no life)

*and then there was the thing where the real first super hero in post-Crisis continuity, Crimson Avenger, had a vision of Superman flying around in the future, inspiring the Avenger to take up super heroics in the 1930's, which meant that Superman was inspired by the costumed crime fighters of the past who themselves were inspired indirectly by Superman. Loopy, but cool. Paradoxes are fun!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 23, 2013, 07:59:07 am
Yeah, I think it's the DCAU influence, come to think of it. You're right about the line in the Superman premiere, and think about how old Robin was in BTAS compared to his established age when Bruce took him in. He was like 10 years old and Bruce was already Batman. So Batman had been around for a good ten years by the time of World's Finest!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on August 23, 2013, 08:21:07 am
OK so I checked and Superman debuts before the "nut in Gotham City" line, so theoretically Supes could've debuted before Batman.

Whatever the case, I don't recall DCAU's Batman being portrayed as being much older and wiser compared to Superman, like Ben Affleck's is purported to be, so I dunno if it's super comparable.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Byakko on August 23, 2013, 10:09:10 am
IMO it'd be a problem if they were to meet when Batman is still new (because otherwise he'd be too easy to change), and Superman just arrived in MoS so he can't be too experienced, so I guess it's all they can do.

They did ? Okay.
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Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Jmorphman on August 23, 2013, 10:15:24 am
I thought they said they were doing like a 5 year time jump?

And if they aren't doing that, they should. Just skip over all that "oh no we can't trust Superman" bullshit.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Mgbenz on August 23, 2013, 03:17:31 pm
Where were you people when they cast Chris Evans as Capt. America? Heath Ledger as Joker?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 23, 2013, 04:08:13 pm
Chris Evans was the best thing about his crappy Fox superhero movie, and Heath Ledger was already an accomplished actor. I was confused, but willing to give it a chance.

Ben Affleck, by contrast, was just not great as Daredevil (yeah, I saw the director's cut.) He's also spent nearly two decades showing us that if he's not directing himself, he's just not good at acting (and it's not like he can get Oscar caliber performances out of himself, either). So you've got a role previously inhabited by one of the foremost method actors of that generation succeeded by one of the worst. Couple that with the fact that Snyder couldn't direct a paper bag to hold oranges, so if you're not already a good actor he's not going to help you be one.

Miracles happen every day but I think I'm going to remain pessimistic.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Mgbenz on August 23, 2013, 04:25:28 pm
So his performances in The Town and Argo don't matter because Daredevil.

OK.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: walt on August 23, 2013, 04:31:49 pm
It's Ben Affleck

All he has is "Douchebag Smile", "Screaming Madman", and "Crying, broken man" ... And maybe a bit of "Le Tigre / Blue Steel" which can be easily confused with "Douchebag Smile"
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Mgbenz on August 23, 2013, 04:40:54 pm
Batman needs any other emotions than those three?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: walt on August 23, 2013, 04:46:34 pm
You're missing the point.

Nobody needs Ben Affleck as Batman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Iced on August 23, 2013, 04:49:49 pm
OK so I checked and Superman debuts before the "nut in Gotham City" line, so theoretically Supes could've debuted before Batman.

Whatever the case, I don't recall DCAU's Batman being portrayed as being much older and wiser compared to Superman, like Ben Affleck's is purported to be, so I dunno if it's super comparable.

batman worked under the guise of a myth for years before in batb they use this period to be the one where he gets training by the jsa with black canary.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Neocide on August 23, 2013, 05:08:54 pm
You're missing the point.

Nobody needs Ben Affleck as Batman.

yea this. I don't see him pulling off batman. And if he tries to go bales way and does the grumble voice, it's going to be even worse. Omg. ERMGH CMING FER U SEPPERMEN

Also yea in most cases I believe batman was around first, and was just a rumor or myth of this big giant big bat hunting down criminals, the myth stayed in gotham until he became bigger and more were aware of him.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Segatron on August 23, 2013, 05:26:55 pm
You're missing the point.

Nobody needs Ben Affleck as Batman.

Batman is going to get nearly destroyed again after Joel Schuamer
Title: Ben Afflect to play Batman in new Superman Batman movie
Post by: Memo on August 23, 2013, 08:16:44 pm
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-warner-bros-had-pick-151852837.html

For real? Ben Afflect?  I lost all hype for this movie already.
Whats your opinions? 
Title: Re: Ben Afflect to play Batman in new Superman Batman movie
Post by: Laharl on August 23, 2013, 08:18:08 pm
um I thought they were offering christian bale 50 million dollars to play batman again did he seriously turn them down?
Title: Re: Ben Afflect to play Batman in new Superman Batman movie
Post by: walt on August 23, 2013, 08:21:37 pm
um I thought we were already discussing this in the DC Movies thread?
Title: Re: Ben Afflect to play Batman in new Superman Batman movie
Post by: GOH on August 23, 2013, 08:22:04 pm
Ben Affliction
Title: Re: Ben Afflect to play Batman in new Superman Batman movie
Post by: Saikoro on August 23, 2013, 08:22:23 pm
LOL It's Ben Affleck. Not Afflect.

Well, I look at it this way: If we see Ben portray himself as he did in Daredevil or Gigli, we're all fucked.

On the flip side, if we see him as we did in The Town or Good Will Hunting, then we're in for a treat. Lets hope for the latter of the two because he does have some talent. I hope that talent isn't squandered.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on August 23, 2013, 08:31:02 pm
With the size of Affleck's chin, he'll end up looking like TAS Batman, or Arkham series.

Bale's athletic, closer to Keaton's Batman had grown on me.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Person Man on August 23, 2013, 11:35:19 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordwaiter_zps23207449.png[/avatar]Whatever.  It doesn't matter what actor they got for the role, this Batman was always going to suck regardless because they're introducing him as a sidekick in a Superman movie just so they can fast-track their Justice League project while the Avengers franchise is still popular.  Affleck could turn in a mind-blowing performance and it would still likely be a crappy version of Batman.

Imagine if they had just made Captain America or Thor be side-plots in the Iron Man movies before plowing through to Avengers.  That's what WB's doing with their DC movies.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on August 23, 2013, 11:53:28 pm
Not necessarily as grim as you put it.

It could be a success, like Ruffalo's Hulk out of left field, as long as the writing is good, WHO AM I KIDDING, THIS IS BEN AFFLECK, ah you mean if it was somebody else.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Person Man on August 24, 2013, 12:27:13 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordindignant_zps17a67620.png[/avatar]The difference there is that while Ruffalo was a new actor, the actual character of Bruce Banner had already been well established beforehand.  Here, they're taking off from the continuation of Superman's story and cold dropping in some moody jerk in a Dracula costume that, for all intents and purposes, nobody's ever heard of before.  It's just a really bad way to introduce the character.  Superman and Batman both have to exist independently before you can make the World's Finest thing actually work.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on August 24, 2013, 01:30:59 am
(https://sphotos-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/s720x720/999205_661082553911318_1394346102_n.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on August 24, 2013, 01:33:02 am
(https://sphotos-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/s720x720/999205_661082553911318_1394346102_n.jpg)

..what? Why would batman fans be mad that superman asked him a sandwich?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on August 24, 2013, 01:43:41 am
There is a very popular joke on the internet about Batman asking Superman a sandwich.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Duos.act on August 24, 2013, 01:44:46 am
(https://sphotos-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/s720x720/999205_661082553911318_1394346102_n.jpg)

..what? Why would batman fans be mad that superman asked him a sandwich?

Because Batman has the worst fanboys of any comic book hero not named Squirrel Girl.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on August 24, 2013, 01:48:43 am
intensive net searching only led me to this
http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/yzw3j/batman_wants_a_sandwich/
nothing else, a reddit thread with under 40 comments.

Because Batman has the worst fanboys of any comic book hero not named Squirrel Girl.

Squirrel girl has enough fans that they have a type comparable to batman fanboys? She barely has appeared in ten books put together.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Nero D. on August 24, 2013, 01:52:55 am
any character that becomes memetically popular be it thru over-saturation or the internet will have an idiotic fanbase (see; deadpool(who wasnt even that popular till i say about mvc3, iron-man, who was a *b-team character till his movie came out, wolverine, who has been in literally every marvel character's comic, etc)




*while popular in his own right he wasnt batman popular till the iron man movie came out prove me wrong you fucks
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Saikoro on August 24, 2013, 02:10:25 am
(https://sphotos-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/q71/s720x720/999205_661082553911318_1394346102_n.jpg)

:cawg:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on August 24, 2013, 02:13:59 am
(https://sphotos-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/998793_656490131037227_708589895_n.jpg)

I think this time everyone will understand this one.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on August 24, 2013, 02:21:29 am
that is completely understandable as being a joke about breaking bad and breaking the bat a old batman storyline where bane cripples batman...  just not really related to the thread discussion. Why not just discuss stuff without funny unrelated images to try to pass on points?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Neocide on August 24, 2013, 02:26:57 am
agreed. anyway, ben affleck AMIRITE?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Joulz on August 24, 2013, 02:30:50 am
Whatever.  It doesn't matter what actor they got for the role, this Batman was always going to suck regardless because they're introducing him as a sidekick in a Superman movie.  Affleck could turn in a mind-blowing performance and it would still likely be a crappy version of Batman.

we don't know that it's going to suck and we sure don't know if Batman will be a sidekick...in the end, it depends who is the actor & who is writing: right now, Goyer is writting (good), Affleck is acting (ouch)

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Imagine if they had just made Captain America or Thor be side-plots in the Iron Man movies before plowing through to Avengers.

indeed

The difference there is that while Ruffalo was a new actor, the actual character of Bruce Banner had already been well established beforehand.

about Hulk in the Avengers, Ruffalo's portraying (and of course Whedon's writting helped but really mostly Ruffalo) is spot on: his talent (and his approach to it) as an actor makes Banner pop out on the screen (you can feel the internal shit going on in his head, just the way he carries himself)...
i don't think being a new actor or not has anything to do with it: if it does, well Ruffalo has been around for ages, more than say Heath Ledger when he got cast in Batman: in the end, both performances were great, no matter the initial reactions to their casting.
now we have Affleck, who has to be credible & believable in a suit, doing Ninja/Martial Arts master moves type, playing a double life of a billionnaire whos hunted by the death of his parents as a youngster...with a track record of Daredevil (dear god), Good Will Hunting (lol playing himself mostly), Armageddon (-_-), Daredevil, Daredevil, The Town (bank robber) & Argo (noone can say he was good in this movie).

good acting matters, especially in this age of CGI everywhere

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Superman and Batman both have to exist independently before you can make the World's Finest thing actually work.

i agree on paper, but

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Here, they're taking off from the continuation of Superman's story and cold dropping in some moody jerk in a Dracula costume that, for all intents and purposes, nobody's ever heard of before.  It's just a really bad way to introduce the character.

i strongly disagree in this present situation: everyone has heard or know something about Batman nowadays...it's been around for ages in the movie industry and in the general knowledge...so even though it screams "Justice League", strategically, there is not really a point to make yet another Batman reboot just to introduce him in this MoS universe: the references are there already...it makes more sense like that actually, imo.
the problem is their Affleck choice, especially considering it is apparent (as i said in the last page) it is a business move more than a really thought out choice


Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Roman55 on August 24, 2013, 02:33:43 am
that is completely understandable as being a joke about breaking bad and breaking the bat a old batman storyline where bane cripples batman...  just not really related to the thread discussion. Why not just discuss stuff without funny unrelated images to try to pass on points?
Cranston wanted to be Lex remember?

(no that doesn't make it relevant to the thread, but I wanted to point that out)

Because Batman has the worst fanboys of any comic book hero not named Squirrel Girl.
Her dumb fanbase is why this image will not stop being funny (http://31.media.tumblr.com/9680453e219f2322a4f8381940843c61/tumblr_mnwh1lfkes1rqbjyuo1_500.jpg).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Thagr8test on August 24, 2013, 02:44:30 am
I think people are jumping the gun on their opinions about affleck being cast I personally am interested to see how this all plays out for a couple of reasons
1. People felt the same about Michael Keaton being cast for the role and look how opinion changed.
2. The Movie isn't due for two years so thats plenty of time for Ben to transform his body for the role.
3. We don't know the plot of the story yet or how he plans to do his voice for batman.( If its anything like bale were all screwed anyway)
4. He has acting range he can be a very charismatic bruce wayne and I believe he can pull off a dark enough batman.
Just my two cents on it
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on August 24, 2013, 03:00:32 am
Aww come on, now people are hatin' on Squirrel Girl? Is there nothing in this world that can't just be fun and shit?

Where were you people when they cast Chris Evans as Capt. America? Heath Ledger as Joker?
Chris Evans had some people concered (due to him mostly having done comedy roles), but he was never really pegged as a bad actor. And tons and tons of people flipped out over Heath Ledger (THE DUDE FROM A KNIGHT'S TALE IS JOKER THIS IS BULLSHIT)

Batman needs any other emotions than those three?
... you can't be serious.

Affleck could well end up surprising everyone, but he's very limited as an actor, and the description of the Batman he's playing just doesn't seem like it fits into his range. He's not a bad actor, but this seems like a very bad fit for him.

batman worked under the guise of a myth for years before in batb they use this period to be the one where he gets training by the jsa with black canary.
That's... not really what I'm not talking about. I was talking about whether most continuities have Superman debut before Batman (they do). To take two examples: post-Crisis, Superman debuts shortly before Batman, and Batman starts off as an urban legend, but eventually the general public knows him to be a real dude. Or post-Zero Hour, Superman debuts shortly before Batman, but Batman remains an urban legend among the public even years after he first puts on the costume. (I think it went all the way up to War Games, maybe? It was definitely not until the 2000s that they dropped that silly idea)

What I'm getting at is that Batman and Superman are almost always contemporaries, but the next movie is doing something very different, positioning Batman as being much older and experienced than Superman.

Also yea in most cases I believe batman was around first
Nah, it's almost always Superman first. I can't think of anything besides the DCAU, maybe, that has it otherwise. Not that it's super important who debuted first, since in any case they're portrayed as contemporaries either way.

um I thought they were offering christian bale 50 million dollars to play batman again did he seriously turn them down?
Because Bale isn't interested in doing any more Batman movies without Nolan.

Whatever.  It doesn't matter what actor they got for the role, this Batman was always going to suck regardless because they're introducing him as a sidekick in a Superman movie just so they can fast-track their Justice League project while the Avengers franchise is still popular.
I think it's actually far more likely for Superman to be reduced to a sidekick role, especially if those reports that the movie is based in part on The Dark Knight Returns are true.

Superman and Batman both have to exist independently before you can make the World's Finest thing actually work.
Not really? Everyone and their mom knows who Batman is. He doesn't need an entirely new movie just to establish Affleck's version. Captain America, Thor, Iron Man? Nobody knew those characters, they needed their own movies just for them to get into the public consciousness. Hulk probably could've worked without his second movie, since all the information you need about what Bruce Banner has been up to and how he's keeping the Hulk in check is provided in The Avengers.

All Affleck's Batman needs is to  have a few lines about how long he's been around (establishing he's an older Batman to the audience), and go from there. It's actually a pretty smart move, I think. Better than rushing headlong into a Justice League movie like what was previously rumored (since most of the other JL'ers would need movies)

iron-man, who was a *b-team character till his movie came out

*while popular in his own right he wasnt batman popular till the iron man movie came out prove me wrong you fucks
I would say he was C-list, even.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on August 24, 2013, 03:08:14 am
you repeated that ironman was a c lister twice

why do you hate ironman
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on August 24, 2013, 03:10:21 am
I messed up my quoting

I don't know what you're talking about. Also, I was replaced by an alternate universe teenage version of myself. (that shit doesn't happen to an A-lister)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Duos.act on August 24, 2013, 03:11:36 am
Of course there's always going to be a place for things that are fun and silly.  The problem is that SG is in no way funny or amusing.

I definitely wouldn't say Affleck is my first choice for Batman but I think people are undermining him.  I'm sure he knows the weight of this role and isn't gonna half ass it since it's kind of a big deal.  Maybe he'll be the weakest Batman on film but I think he's smart enough to know what he's getting into.

And yeah people definitely did not take well to the news of Ledger as Joker, since prior to TDK most people didn't think of him as a guy that would be capable of such a villainous role.  Hell Tom Hardy as Bane wasn't well received at first either because of how "small" he was. 
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Roman55 on August 24, 2013, 03:14:09 am
Squirrel Girl is dumb for a multitude of reasons, mainly that stupid gimmick (hur hur I beat Doom and Thanos hur) that's brought up ad nauseum. That's not fun, just annoying Wait this is about DC.

Anywho:
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Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that the process began earlier this year when director Zack Snyder had finished working on Man of Steel with producer Christopher Nolan. Snyder and the studio already had ideas for a follow-up, and Snyder reached out to Affleck to check the star's interest.

It's unclear when these talks began. Multiple sources say the studio approached Josh Brolin, as well as other actors. Ryan Gosling was also a possibility, but the actor dislikes the idea of sequels.

But Affleck was curious, and initial talks focusing on story and character began. Once Affleck was satisfied, WME's Patrick Whitesell and Ziffren Brittenham's Sam Fischer began negotiating his role in the Superman sequel. Sources say that Affleck has been signed for multiple other movies. The talks were so secretive that many Warner execs and most WME agents remained unaware of their existence.

On one level, Affleck’s return to superheroes seems bewildering. The Oscar-winning co-writer of Good Will Hunting drew scorn after donning the red suit for Daredevil, and later agreed it wasn't his best work. After he'd recovered and turned in a bravura performance directing and starring in The Town, Fox offered him the chance to direct and star in a Daredevil reboot -- but Affleck turned it down.

More recently, Nolan offered Affleck the chance to direct Man of Steel. Affleck declined, seemingly because of a desire not to return to the world of capes -- despite being an avowed comic book fan.

Because since it’s considered a sequel to Man of Steel and not a Batman movie, any potential underperformance issues won't ultimately land on his shoulders.

The deal also potentially lines Affleck up to star in and direct Warner Bros.' answer to The Avengers: The eventual Justice League movie.
Source. (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=85876)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on August 24, 2013, 03:14:44 am
The problem is that SG is in no way funny or amusing.
Man, go read GLA: Disassembled and get back to me. >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on August 24, 2013, 03:15:44 am
Hell Tom Hardy as Bane wasn't well received at first either because of how "small" he was. 
You have a point. You know what gives credibility to almost any actor? MUSCLES.

Affleck is 1 shirtless shot away from being legit, assuming he gets ripped or respectably buff.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Person Man on August 24, 2013, 03:15:58 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava3.png[/avatar]
The difference there is that while Ruffalo was a new actor, the actual character of Bruce Banner had already been well established beforehand.

about Hulk in the Avengers, Ruffalo's portraying (and of course Whedon's writting helped but really mostly Ruffalo) is spot on: his talent (and his approach to it) as an actor makes Banner pop out on the screen (you can feel the internal shit going on in his head, just the way he carries himself)...
i don't think being a new actor or not has anything to do with it: if it does, well Ruffalo has been around for ages, more than say Heath Ledger when he got cast in Batman: in the end, both performances were great, no matter the initial reactions to their casting.
My point here wasn't about Ruffalo's performance, but that he was playing a character that already existed within that specific universe.  Banner had already been established and explored in the Hulk movie, and his presence was known before the gang started getting together.  On the other side of the coin, look at Hawkeye in the same movie.  Hawkeye was easily the most shallow and underplayed character in Avengers because his first major appearance in that universe was as one part of a team full of other characters that collectively had 5 or 6 feature length films worth of development behind them.

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everyone has heard or know something about Batman nowadays...it's been around for ages in the movie industry and in the general knowledge.
Sure, we know about about Batman as a pop culture icon.  But in the context of the fiction it wouldn't make any sense.  He'd be a brand new entity.  And if a Superman already exists and is active, what's the point of some rich guy running around with smoke bombs and grappling hooks?  By starting this Batman out in a sequel to someone else's story, he becomes not so much a hero or a leading man as he does an issue for Superman to have to come to terms with.

I don't think we need another Batman reboot so soon, and more to the point I don't think the world needs yet another origin story retelling.  But if they're trying to ape what worked for Marvel, they can't just start throwing all their characters out there at once.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on August 24, 2013, 03:17:32 am
hawkeye first appearance was in thor. =D

I also think most people will assume its the same batman from the bale movies, even if the actor is different.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on August 24, 2013, 03:24:53 am
I also think most people will assume its the same batman from the bale movies, even if the actor is different.
EXACTLY, thank you.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on August 24, 2013, 03:25:57 am
Hawkeye was easily the most shallow and underplayed character in Avengers because his first major appearance in that universe was as one part of a team full of other characters that collectively had 5 or 6 feature length films worth of development behind them.
Hawkeye was also a bad guy for most of the movie. Black Widow similarly only appeared as a glorified cameo in another hero's movie, but I don't think anyone would say she was undeveloped. She was totally cool!

Sure, we know about about Batman as a pop culture icon.  But in the context of the fiction it wouldn't make any sense.  He'd be a brand new entity.
Of course it makes sense. The minor details might change, but he's still Batman, people will be able to get that. He's well established enough so that he can just serve as an issue Superman has to deal with, with no harm done to him as a character.

But like I said, I think it'll be the other way around, with Batman having to deal with Superman as an issue. Which would suck, because Superman needs to be better established!

And if a Superman already exists and is active, what's the point of some rich guy running around with smoke bombs and grappling hooks?
That's something every writer of a story involving Batman and anyone with super-powers has to deal with, whether Batman is a known entity or not. Good writing makes it a non-issue.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Joulz on August 24, 2013, 03:58:19 am
My point here wasn't about Ruffalo's performance, but that he was playing a character that already existed within that specific universe.  Banner had already been established and explored in the Hulk movie, and his presence was known before the gang started getting together.

i don't think Hulk/Banner was well established: for starters, none of the movies showed him as being a brilliant physicist/scientific guy, they only used "the somewhat dark guy who can't control his inner beast" angle (and not too well, too).
Whedon could have EASILY done what he did with Hulk in Avengers without any of the 2 Hulk standalone movies: the character is depicted & explained perfectly as it is in the Avengers alone....actually, that was the perfect way to introduce what/who Hulk/Bruce Banner is to the universe and then make standalone movies to explore it afterward: i think for Batman vs Supes, it's the other way around....Bat has been around for aaaaages, is obviously known (& loved) by now to any random people so he doesn't need any introduction, and this means it could potentially work out fine imo.

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And if a Superman already exists and is active, what's the point of some rich guy running around with smoke bombs and grappling hooks?

that's the beauty of a screenwriter: he tries to make sense out of something that wouldn't at first (i'm sorry but nobody thought Avengers could work on screen: having a Hulk, Hawkeye, Thor, Ironman, Widow in the same movie, with the little addition of having the baddest meanest villain in the Marvel Universe as Thanos to battle eventually...throw in an eventual talking tree and a raccoon!! but then, all seems so far to fall into place!)

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But if they're trying to ape what worked for Marvel, they can't just start throwing all their characters out there at once.

they are obviously pressured/rushed by Marvel success, and having a release date for that JL movie before even having a director or a script at the time sounded completely retarded...but all in all, they now seem to have a plan: Batman in the next movie (with Supes) could be excellent if written (& acted....) properly, like Goyer knows to do usually...
for the rest of the characters, one is problematic (Green Lantern because first = failure) & one is particularly not (MartianHunter could easily get thrown somewhere along the road as an intro and then developed in JL)...

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Nero D. on August 24, 2013, 04:07:02 am
pretty sure this may interest the lot of you (http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/exclusive-bryan-cranston-lex-luthor-batman-superman-matt-damon-aquaman-mark-strong-sinestro)

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DC also does have major interest in bringing Matt Damon into the Justice League now that Affleck is on board, and it is rumored that he is being considered for Aquaman or Martian Manhunter.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Man of Steel 2 coming faster than a speeding bullet
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on August 24, 2013, 04:17:53 am
Guys, do you remember this??
This is a cool news, but I think Breaking Bad fans would enjoy this more (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=85357) :P

Well... I got great news for you (http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/exclusive-bryan-cranston-lex-luthor-batman-superman-matt-damon-aquaman-mark-strong-sinestro) ;)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Nero D. on August 24, 2013, 04:27:26 am
i guess people would not have seen the same fucking link posted right above yours i guess
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Joulz on August 24, 2013, 04:47:53 am
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Regarding Ben Affleck, we are told he has allegedly a 13-appearance deal for Batman.

i'm not religious, but god damn i pray he pulls it off  :stare:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on August 24, 2013, 05:43:51 am
i guess people would not have seen the same fucking link posted right above yours i guess
I realized few minutes ago about that, but you talked about Damon only, not about Cranston as Luthor, the main news of that link, or about the return of Strong as Sinestro... and that's mean the return of Reynolds as Jordan for omission (I guess)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Nero D. on August 25, 2013, 03:22:30 am
http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/28313/obama-asked-to-stop-affleck-as-batman

lol damn
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 25, 2013, 03:28:49 am
correct me if I am wrong but have not most of the previous batman actors been pretty weak at action roles as well  before playing batman (keaton, nolan, kilmer, clooney).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Roman55 on August 25, 2013, 03:32:58 am
The latter two are kinda off kilter to mention since they were just in bad Batman movies but yeah you're right.

And I think you mean Bale rather than Nolan.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Nero D. on August 25, 2013, 03:40:58 am
keaton, kilmer and clooney also came at a time before it was ok/commonplace to bash the next batman because they didnt "fit"

back in the day that wasnt even an issue because we just watched the movies and enjoyed em cuz our favorite characters were on film etc
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on August 25, 2013, 06:14:49 am
correct me if I am wrong but have not most of the previous batman actors been pretty weak at action roles as well  before playing batman (keaton, nolan, kilmer, clooney).
Keaton was heavily criticized (before the first trailer came out) because he was known for comedy roles, which made people concerned about the possible direction the movie would take.

Bale had a good track record before Begins (if not necessarily known for action). Kilmer had been in action movies before, and had been fine in them. Clooney was known mostly for ER at that point, but wasn't known for action at all, really. Of course he ended up playing Dumb, Gay Batman...

The issue isn't whether Affleck has been good at action roles, it's whether he'd be a good fit for Batman. I'm not really convinced.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on August 25, 2013, 10:22:10 pm
Keaton was heavily criticized (before the first trailer came out) because he was known for comedy roles, which made people concerned about the possible direction the movie would take.
This reminds me about Seth Rogen being The Green Hornet, no one gives a buck for him because of his previous comedy roles, and the movie ended so awesome. Also is the case of Chris Evans, but because of Human Torch no one expected him as Steve Rogers, but it was all a success. So in this case I won't see anything against Affleck until see him as the new Batman *B-kun waiting for the first trailer*
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Byakko on August 25, 2013, 10:30:25 pm
This reminds me about Seth Rogen being The Green Hornet, no one gives a buck for him because of his previous comedy roles, and the movie ended so awesome.
It was still comedy though. With Ben Affleck known for comedy, I'm not convinced a Batman with the same comedy as in Green Hornet would be a success. As for Chris Evans, he actually did get the character pretty well in a genre no one saw him do before, to the point of pretty much overturning the image people had of him - not that he had a big image to overturn in the first place. Ben Affleck has a huge image, and he's already done serious roles of the same genre, such as... Daredevil. Which didn't overturn his image.
All the comparisons with other actors who have been a surprise success are based on the premise that those actors didn't actually do anything in that genre before, that's why we didn't know what they could do. Affleck has tried the genre, we know what he can do, and it tanked.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Joulz on August 26, 2013, 12:33:30 am
the problem here is this guy usually fails to present himself as the character he is playing: i only see Ben Affleck, the celebrity...he fails to make me forget who he is, and it's going to suck if i'm watching Ben Affleck instead of Bruce Wayne on screen
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on August 26, 2013, 08:39:50 am
Green Hornet isn't really the best example; people got very upset over Seth Rogen's casting ("he won't play Hornet as an action hero, he'll make him a joke of a hero"), and were pretty much vindicated in the result (Kato does all of the heavy lifting, and Rogen's Green Hornet is there for the comedy). But nobody really cares about Green Hornet anymore, not on the level of Batman, so you didn't really see the level of outrage that's directed at Affleck right now.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Neocide on August 26, 2013, 11:01:45 am
^ sorta that on the Green hornet thing. It's mainly known as a show that made bruce lee famous. I'm in the camp of not thinking Affleck is a horrible actor just with batman it's a lot ofrange to the character that I don't feel confident Affleck could pull off. Batman is a big role,but so is bruce wayne, there is certain balance  and in between to them that is complex.

Ben can be good in singular roles, where his range can be more centered to one type of character. Especially even more so in a batman\superman movie.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on August 27, 2013, 12:59:36 am
I saw this on FB and I said: This should be viewed here... so, here you are ;)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/q71/s720x720/1185007_10201635862516760_627482512_n.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Byakko on August 27, 2013, 01:14:53 am
Suddenly the Man of Steel portrayal makes a lot more sense : Superman as we know him isn't born in Man of Steel, he's born in the sequel. Luthor hates him for the kind of shit he pulled in MoS, Superman learns to step away from killing after what he did in MoS, etc. Maybe meeting Batman and finding contrast with him will be the final push for the Man of Steel to become the Superman.
I know, whether this is an official image or a fan-made fake, doesn't matter (I'm assuming it's fake since "on Facebook" isn't exactly a stellar source for official stuff), it puts the movie in perspective with its sequel and the characters involved.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on August 27, 2013, 11:32:42 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/08/26/morgan-freeman-ben-affleck-batman/2701291/
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Someone forgot to brief The Dark Knight's Lucius Fox about Ben Affleck putting on the Batman suit.

Morgan Freeman, who played Bruce Wayne's wise business partner in three Dark Knight movies, was surprised by the casting when speaking to USA TODAY on Monday morning.

"This is the first I am hearing of it," said Freeman. "My first reactions are 'Wow' and 'Good luck.'"
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on August 27, 2013, 11:44:58 pm
There is one easy way for him to play Batman well and have every single person on earth love him forever as Batman.
He needs to play Adam's West Batman.

He must use shark repellent spray, run around carrying a bomb while complaining that some days it is entirely too difficult to get rid of a bomb and have a side kick saying "Holy [insert adjective here] Batman".

There, instant world love.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Basara Suede Goo on August 28, 2013, 12:15:25 am
and have a side kick saying "Holy [insert adjective here] Batman".
Thanks for remind me about that "sidekick"...
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/justin-timberlake-sells-soul-batman-runner-runner-005301742.html
...because of this movie, there're some rumours about Timberlake being Robin in Superman/Batman
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Joulz on August 28, 2013, 12:15:43 am
Suddenly the Man of Steel portrayal makes a lot more sense : Superman as we know him isn't born in Man of Steel, he's born in the sequel. Luthor hates him for the kind of shit he pulled in MoS, Superman learns to step away from killing after what he did in MoS, etc. Maybe meeting Batman and finding contrast with him will be the final push for the Man of Steel to become the Superman.
I know, whether this is an official image or a fan-made fake, doesn't matter (I'm assuming it's fake since "on Facebook" isn't exactly a stellar source for official stuff), it puts the movie in perspective with its sequel and the characters involved.

yep pretty much this
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Nero D. on August 28, 2013, 01:03:12 am


for a fanmade trailer this wasn't half bad honestly
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Segatron on August 28, 2013, 01:01:55 pm
Ben Affleck might be Bruce or the rookie cop portrayed Joseph Gordon Lewitt.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: QuickFist on August 29, 2013, 01:48:04 am
Ben Affleck might be Bruce or the rookie cop portrayed Joseph Gordon Lewitt.

Read the title of this topic.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on August 29, 2013, 03:28:04 pm
I think you just didn't understand his post. He's implying that Ben Affleck's character in the new movie may not be Bruce Wayne, but the character portrayed by Joseph Gordon-Levitt who got the mantle passed on to.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Nero D. on August 30, 2013, 04:33:44 am
http://comicbook.com/blog/2013/08/28/justin-timberlake-wants-to-play-the-riddler-to-ben-afflecks-batman/

everybody coming out of the woodwork

would be interesting to say the least
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on September 14, 2013, 07:30:17 am
http://instagram.com/p/eOODXzgvpq/#
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on September 14, 2013, 07:39:57 am
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Based On

BATMAN: THE DARK KNIGHT FALLS

By

Frank Miller & Klaus Janson
Ah yes, The Dark Knight Falls, one of the most famous Batman stories, along with The Murderous Joke and The Lengthy Halloween.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on September 14, 2013, 07:44:08 am
Considering DC track record, I wouldn't doubt that we can end having a Robin, and Bieber being the one picked to play him.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on September 14, 2013, 07:45:49 am
I don't know, Bieber just isn't masculine enough to pull off Carrie Kelly!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Lord Kain on September 14, 2013, 07:46:20 am
He may be trollin...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on September 14, 2013, 07:50:10 am
Of course it's fake, it's far too early for there to be a script, even with the ridiculously accelerated production WB is rushing this through.

probably
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: QuickFist on September 14, 2013, 04:43:46 pm
That just scared the crap outta me, but thank god it's fake and he's just a jackass
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on September 14, 2013, 09:19:19 pm
So that might be for a Funny or Die sketch or something. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/justin-bieber-teases-batman-superman-629247)

Also, that article pointed out that the fourth issue of The Dark Knight Returns was named The Dark Knight Falls, so, whoops. That's the issue where Batman totally beats Superman and proves he's the best by taking down a severly weakened Superman who is doing everything (super)humanly possibly to not a dude bent on going out in a blaze of glory. Because Superman is like, a tool of the man, totally lame.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on November 09, 2013, 06:18:25 am
A casting call for Batman/Superman, looking for a "tall, brunette, athletic, and exotic" female lead (http://www.avclub.com/articles/actresses-vie-for-role-of-brunette-woman-who-may-o,105343/), which everyone has taken to mean Wonder Woman, for no real reason. I mean sure it might be Wonder Woman, but it could just as easily be Batman's love interest or something.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on November 09, 2013, 09:11:33 am
Batman's love interest is Robin. :P
They ain't going to change that, I am sure!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SNT on November 09, 2013, 09:30:31 am
A casting call for Batman/Superman, looking for a "tall, brunette, athletic, and exotic" female lead (http://www.avclub.com/articles/actresses-vie-for-role-of-brunette-woman-who-may-o,105343/), which everyone has taken to mean Wonder Woman, for no real reason. I mean sure it might be Wonder Woman, but it could just as easily be Batman's love interest or something.
How did I miss the DC cinematic thread?  Apparently Jaimie Alexander has been speaking with WB, and has read the script. (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/01/jaimie-alexander-confirms-thor-3-has-had-conversations-with-wb-about-batman-vs-superman)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on November 09, 2013, 06:02:45 pm
Batman's love interest is Robin. :P
They ain't going to change that, I am sure!
Well...
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Meanwhile, Latino Review passes along its own unconfirmed rumor that the studio is also looking for a “young John Hawkes type” to play a Dick Grayson/Nightwing who hasn’t spoken to Batman “in years,” which has presumably caused him to move to Gotham’s woods and start a meth lab.
they're not seeing each other anymore. If indeed that rumor is true.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Joulz on November 09, 2013, 06:39:56 pm
NIGHTWING!!!! please
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on November 19, 2013, 06:57:51 am
So this one actor from Girls was rumored to be playing Nightwing but then it turns out he's not, maybe (http://www.avclub.com/article/turns-out-adam-driver-is-not-the-hero-batman-vs-su-105755), who knows. But it definitely seems like Nightwing will be in the movie.

And Kevin Smith, whose work on Batman involved him retconning Year One to have Batman piss his pants in a pivotal scene, for some reason, has been raving about the costume (http://www.avclub.com/article/batmansuperman-movie-may-have-girls-adam-driver-de-105423) for Batman, saying:
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You have not seen this costume in film before. Because every other movie has done this Matrix-y black armor thing... There wasn't a single nipple on this fucking suit, man. I think everyone is gonna be like 'Holy shit! We haven't been down this path before.' Even the hardest-core 'fuck this movie' person will be like, 'All right, I'm ready!'
which could mean literally anything; a straight up tights affair (ludicrously unlikely), a blue and grey armor type deal (an exceedingly small change but sounds like something Kevin Smith would hype up, because he would hype up literally anything they showed him), or even I dunno that robot suit from the finale of DKR (the comic), since he'll be fighting Batman and all. And is old. And is semi-retired.

...fuck, they're gonna put him in a robot suit and he'll be in the robot suit the whole time probably, completely missing the point and uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: AerosMugen on November 19, 2013, 01:10:40 pm
Fighting Sups, you mean.
I think it will be just a blue/grey costume.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on November 19, 2013, 01:31:32 pm
For old and retired Batman, they should have gotten Adam West.
He would be able to save this movie!

And it can't be a simple blue/grey costume because Adam West (the only real Batman) had done it in film before. :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: AerosMugen on November 19, 2013, 02:33:21 pm
You are totally right about the costume..
And you are totally worng too, you heretic, Keaton was Batman too.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on November 19, 2013, 03:02:23 pm
But did Keaton run for several scenes carrying a live bomb with his own hands that needed to be disposed?
I don't think so. Adam West did, thus he is the real Batman!
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Post by: Byakko on November 19, 2013, 03:05:49 pm
Bale carried a nuke though.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on November 19, 2013, 03:19:09 pm
Not with his own hands, so it doesn't count. :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on November 19, 2013, 07:03:41 pm
But did Keaton run for several scenes carrying a live bomb with his own hands that needed to be disposed?
I don't think so.
Well... yes. He did.

Batman Returns, second Red Triangle Circus fight.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on November 19, 2013, 07:26:04 pm
Yeah.
He picked it and in less than one scene stuck it to a Penguin minion for him to blow up and die.

Adam West had to avoid fanfares, innocent people, a couple in love, a duck and  it's ducklings among several extras that couldn't be harmed by that bomb. He did much more to dispense it without ANYONE getting hurt.

Adam West Batman is the best Batman. He also got shark repellent bat-spray? Does Keaton, eh, eh? ;)
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Post by: Jmorphman on November 19, 2013, 07:28:17 pm
Pshaw. West didn't have it for a super-long amount of time, it's totally comparable. Keaton is awesome. That's just science.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on November 19, 2013, 07:30:11 pm
I will give you that Keaton is the second best Batman ever, just after Adam West.
The others movie Batman can't hope to compare to those two.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on November 19, 2013, 07:37:26 pm
Where does Kevin Conroy fit?

He counts, Mask of the Phantasm was released theatrically!!!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on November 19, 2013, 07:42:48 pm
He is a voice actor. He is at another level.
But if I have to fit him within the movie Batmen list, he is right there, tied with Keaton.
The man is damn good at voicing Batman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on November 22, 2013, 05:01:55 am
The following list are potential titles for the Batman/Superman movie: (http://www.avclub.com/article/here-are-a-bunch-of-possible-titles-for-the-batman-105893)

Man Of Steel: Battle The Knight
Man Of Steel: Beyond Darkness
Man Of Steel: Black Of Knight
Man Of Steel: Darkness Falls
Man Of Steel: Knight Falls
Man Of Steel: Shadow Of The Night
Man Of Steel: The Blackest Hour
Man Of Steel: The Darkness Within

absolutely none of which are anything besides garbage.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Roman55 on November 22, 2013, 07:14:45 am
Is it so hard to call it World's Finest?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on November 22, 2013, 07:16:10 am
But how will people know it has Superman and Batman in it? And is a sequel to Man of Steel? And reminds people of The Dark Knight trilogy? Stop being silly.
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Post by: AerosMugen on December 04, 2013, 07:18:33 pm
http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/180611-gal-gadot-cast-as-wonder-woman-in-batman-vs-superman

She is too skinny for the role, I think.
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Post by: Luis Alejandro on December 04, 2013, 08:15:05 pm
smh of all people WHY NOT PICK GINA CARANO
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: QuickFist on December 04, 2013, 08:37:13 pm
She doesn't look like WW to me at all, she's pretty and all, but not as I see WW
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on December 04, 2013, 10:03:27 pm
... :'(
Really Warner... REALLY? A twig to play Wonder Fucking Woman, the most badass of all Amazons?

This gal can hit the gym all she likes and yet she will never have the body to be Wonder Woman. :/
And here I was thinking that they couldn't make a poorer casting decision than what they have done before.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: QuickFist on December 04, 2013, 10:10:18 pm
Exactly! Wonder Woman is athletic, she is badass! This girl is really thin, I also see WW with a "tough" Beauty, IDK if you know what I mean
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on December 04, 2013, 10:22:27 pm
I know exactly what you mean.
The actress to play Wonder Woman would have to be sorta like a younger Lucy Lawless of Xena fame.
Rugged, big, tough and yet beautiful.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Aldo on December 04, 2013, 10:31:18 pm
haha, DC casting team sucks. She´s awfully skinny for being Wonder Woman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: QuickFist on December 04, 2013, 10:32:03 pm
I know exactly what you mean.
The actress to play Wonder Woman would have to be sorta like a younger Lucy Lawless of Xena fame.
Rugged, big, tough and yet beautiful.

Yes!! You couldn't have said it better!
But instead they pick this skinny girl (no offense to her) she's pretty and all, but she ain't WW

Same as Affleck isn't Bruce Wayne
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Person Man on December 04, 2013, 11:14:42 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordpfft_zpsf2c0b989.png[/avatar]Oh good, yet another major Justice League staple being introduced to their wannabe movie universe as a minor plot point in a Superman movie.  I know that these guys are desperate to try and steal a chunk of that sweet Avengers money, but I'm beginning to think that they don't actually know that Avengers wasn't the only movie in that series.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on December 05, 2013, 06:15:47 am
I'm so so so glad that Wonder Woman, the most important female superhero, will have her debut movie appearance in a movie about two dudes where she will be lucky to do anything more than Lois Lane did in MoS. Simply delighted.

Also, why are you guys talking about whether she has the right body type for Wondy, you should be upset that her boobs aren't big enough, like these fine folks! (https://twitter.com/search?q=wonder%20woman%20boobs&src=typd)

I mean, I'm sure she'll bulk up (though there's a limit as to how much that will help making her seem all big and tall like Wondy should be), but what really matters is whether she can pull off being believably imposing, commanding, and, well, Amazonian. I don't know enough about this actress to judge.

smh of all people WHY NOT PICK GINA CARANO
Well, I mean, she's not terrible as an actress, but lets just say she's a better at MMA than acting. There's a reason Haywire was structured in a way so that not much was demanded of her, acting-wise. And also because her voice was dubbed over.


Oh good, yet another major Justice League staple being introduced to their wannabe movie universe as a minor plot point in a Superman movie.  I know that these guys are desperate to try and steal a chunk of that sweet Avengers money, but I'm beginning to think that they don't actually know that Avengers wasn't the only movie in that series.
If this were a straight up Trinity movie I think it could work. Because Batman needs no introduction, and Superman is already set up. They'd just have to abandon all pretenses that it'd be a sequel to MoS because they'd need to focus on Wonder Woman and the relationships between the three leads, which would leave no room for bland Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen's sister and so on.

And if they set up the rest of the JL'ers in TV shows (which might be the case, still don't know if Arrow is in the MoS-verse, in which case they've got a Green Arrow and a Flash and even a Black Canary and a Huntress and why am I even mentioning them there is no chance on Earth they'd have more than one female superhero in a JL movie) they could go straight to a JL movie after a Trinity movie. No need to make a movie for every member.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Mgbenz on December 07, 2013, 01:40:51 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/0G9dz4L.jpg)

He's getting there. Just a few months more.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on December 07, 2013, 02:57:41 pm
Yeah, Affleck had time to prepare, and the male body is easier to buff up.
Testosterone is one hell of a drug.

He is looking good. Now to hope that my dreams that he will play 66 Batman to save the film will come true.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Byakko on December 07, 2013, 03:24:50 pm
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/12/03/warner-bros-producer-tells-us-to-expect-wonder-woman-and-doomsday-in-superman-batman-movie/
Villain seems to be Doomsday.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on December 07, 2013, 06:40:13 pm
... Doomsday?
DOOMSDAY?

That guy should be played way later, in a film where Superman dies. He is far too important for such film. -_-
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Post by: SlySuavity on December 07, 2013, 08:50:18 pm
Adding on to that, what's wrong with Lex Luthor? :(
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Post by: Byakko on December 07, 2013, 08:58:29 pm
Bald corporate guy in a suit is boring against three superheroes including two superpowered ones that no doubt like to destroy lots of stuff and level entire cities - judging from the Man of Steel performance.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SlySuavity on December 07, 2013, 09:03:30 pm
Who says that bald corporate guy in a suit couldn't do the same, let alone world-wide as is in Superman Returns for instance?

Terrible film, but still.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Person Man on December 07, 2013, 10:14:07 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordimpatient.png[/avatar]Lex Luthor can be a great villain, but as far as these movies go I can't imagine him being able to pose any sort of credible threat in a universe where Superman is willing to kill his enemies.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Byakko on December 07, 2013, 10:18:55 pm
^-- exactly.
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Post by: Saikoro on December 07, 2013, 10:58:01 pm
Wait a minute... We have Wonder Woman, Batman, Superman and now Doomsday in the same film??

Does this even follow the lore of the comic books?? I'm sorry, but this sounds like a mediocre film already. They should have stuck with the Nolan-esque way of doing things, I.E. having standalone films with great writing and fleshed out characters that have good action scenes as a bonus.

But... since Hollywood can't think based off of originality to save their asses, I suppose we're stuck with this bullshit.

Yeah, I don't like. Maybe a good trailer will persuade me otherwise.

Currently:  :omg:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SlySuavity on December 07, 2013, 11:14:50 pm
Lex Luthor can be a great villain, but as far as these movies go I can't imagine him being able to pose any sort of credible threat in a universe where Superman is willing to kill his enemies.

It's been done, actually. The general consensus is that not only would Lex damn the world with some cataclysm, he'd fracture Supermans' psyche and goad him to breaking his pacifist code (more so than he has in MoS, anyway). Coupled with Batmans' (hopefully in this universe) utmost refusal to kill, then that'd just shit all over everything and bring about another Injustice/Justice Lords event. Provided there's no killing involved at all, I'd say Lex remains a credible threat either way.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Byakko on December 07, 2013, 11:20:42 pm
That's nice when it works but it needs Superman to build this pacifist code first. The rivalry with Lex is worthless without that, because a Superman who doesn't put killing as the very last resort to save others would just... kill Lex pretty soon. With the crossover reveal I thought MoS followed by a meeting with Batman would make Superman turn into the character we know, the pacifist, and having Lex come after that would have worked great, but if Doomsday's in it then it means that never was the way they were ever going to take Superman. And in this case Lex becomes worthless, even in a third movie, because Superman facing Doomsday makes him facing Lex really boring.

Oh, that being said, Doomsday makes sense following Man of Steel, because now Superman only fights stuff from his world (preferably some that causes massive destruction), not puny humans. And certainly not some bald corporate guy in a suit.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on December 08, 2013, 12:06:27 am
They could have given us Brainiac instead.
He is a powerful threat that would need Batman and Wonder Woman to beat. This dumb Man of Steel wouldn't be able to even see what hit him on his own in this case.

I really doubt we will see Doomsday killing Superman in this film, and that alone breaks the sole reason Doomsday exists. He was the only being strong enough to push Superman that far and physically "defeat" him. :/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Roman55 on December 08, 2013, 06:53:15 pm
No they probably just chose him so they can have more collateral damage and a higher body count (http://www.blastr.com/2013-11-11/snyder-defends-man-steels-controversial-violence-blasting-avengers).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: GOH on December 09, 2013, 10:55:01 am
Wow, they really wanna botch this movie.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Retro Respecter on December 09, 2013, 08:46:19 pm
Didn't we say the same things about "Man of Steel?"
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Byakko on December 09, 2013, 09:21:34 pm
And those who said it were right, what's your point
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on December 10, 2013, 08:00:59 pm
Jason Momoa is in talks to be in Batman/Superman (http://www.avclub.com/article/jason-momoa-will-be-playing-some-big-jason-momoalo-106363), with most speculating that he'll play Doomsday. And apparently the Flash will appear in the movie too, so Momoa might play another member of the JL, like Martian Manhunter (though given how he's been retconned out of the JL, maybe not, grumble grumble), or Aquaman, because DC wants everyone to take Aquaman seriously, guys, he's totally serious, see, look, look how cool he is, why don't you like him yet?

Who says that bald corporate guy in a suit couldn't do the same, let alone world-wide as is in Superman Returns for instance?

Terrible film, but still.
Superman Returns is likely exactly the reason he isn't the main villain here. He's an intellectual villain and not one who lends himself well to punching people into populated buildings (though Luthor's various armors would work for that purpose). DC learned all the wrong lessons from that movie (for instance, instead of making Superman fun and exciting, they made him more depressing); all they focused on was complaints of "SUPERMAN DOESN'T PUNCH ANYTHING", so they made him punch a whole bunch of people, never mind the fact that the best scene in Returns was the plane rescue, because it actually felt like Superman. And wasn't about him being a stalker deadbeat dad and Luthor's ultimate plan being another goddamn land scheme.

Jesus, that movie. Ugh.

Does this even follow the lore of the comic books??
In the comics neither Wonder Woman nor Batman were involved in Superman's fight with Doomsday. The Justice League was involved (and got their asses kicked), but it people no one has heard of (but who are still totally awesome, like Booster Gold and Blue Beetle and Fire and Ice), and Martian Manhunter was there, disguised as someone else for some reason, and also Maxima. Them being involved wouldn't be a big deal, I don't think.

The bigger problems with using Doomsday are that he's not really all interesting of a villain (he usually doesn't even talk!). He's meant to be an unstoppable force of nature that can't be reasoned with, and Superman only manages to stop him by making the ultimate sacrifice. (and if Doomsday stayed dead there I think people would like him better)

But they're not gonna do a Death of Superman arc, not in the second movie, not in the same movie where he fights Batman, with Wonder Woman and possibly other JL'ers involved. So what's even the point? There's other physical villains they could do, like Metallo. Or Braniac, through drones or something. Are they just going with Doomsday because Death of Superman was really popular, and they'll be able to call him the guy who killed Superman?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: QuickFist on December 10, 2013, 08:06:41 pm
I actually liked MoS, but this, it's no looking good at all
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Post by: Bea on December 10, 2013, 08:13:30 pm
And if they wanted someone physically imposing, there is always Mongul, who is miles more interesting than Doomsday.
Doomsday only glory was actually "killing" Superman, nothing else. As Mr. Jay said, it would have been better if Doomsday stayed dead after that fight.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Byakko on December 10, 2013, 08:37:40 pm
there is always Mongul
Yeah right that other guy nobody knows
Doomsday's the biggest, strongest, most destructive bad guy they have, that's all. I don't know why that's a surprise.
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 11, 2013, 07:53:10 am
That Gotham City show about rookie cop James Gordon that doesn't have Batman in it will have a 10 year-old Bruce Wayne (http://www.avclub.com/article/foxs-gotham-tv-show-will-let-you-spend-time-with-b-106327), which again prompts the question asked when the show was first announced:

Why the fuck are they making this show and not a Gotham Central show?!?!?!

I mean yeah I get why (gotta save all the cool stuff for the movies, and old Gordon and any villains have to be played by movie stars who wouldn't deign to appear in a TV show, so they gotta go with young Gordon, no Batman, and either younger versions of the Bat-villains or I dunno their parents or some dumb fucking thing). But still. I want a goddamn Gotham Central show. >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: GOH on December 11, 2013, 12:40:13 pm
You will get your Smallville 2.0 and you will like it.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on December 11, 2013, 07:31:34 pm
If the show, around season 7, starts calling pre-Batman but still crimefighting Bruce Wayne "the Blue-Black Blur", then I think the universe will end, or something.

JOKE EXPLANATION: Smallvile eventually had Clark Kent move to Metropolis, work at the Daily Planet, and fight crime as an actual superhero, but because the rules of the show ("no tights, no flights") apparently could only be bent to allow everyone else on the show to wear tights and/or fly (seriously, they had Dr. Fate and Hawkman in straight up direct from the comics outfits), but not be broken for Clark. So he ran around at super-speed in red and blue leather and was known as "the red-blue blur". And it was as stupid as it sounds.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Quasi-Tick on December 14, 2013, 03:00:35 am
Really wish instead of getting a Man of Steel sequel heavy on the Batman, we would get a sequel focusing more on just Clark. Oh well at least they didn't get a totally bad actor. I think Ben will crush it, now if they can just get a better script writer after Justice League. Cause Goyer = Crap... Especially when it comes to dialogue!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Roman55 on December 18, 2013, 02:00:22 am
Ernie Hudson is in negotiations to join the cast of The CW's Flash show as Detective West.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=91705
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Neocide on December 18, 2013, 02:02:49 am
so he's going to be iris's dad too. Are they making iris black? Which would be cool. Or maybe she's adopted too I guess. My flash lore is pretty rusty.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on December 18, 2013, 02:28:01 am
so he's going to be iris's dad too. Are they making iris black? Which would be cool. Or maybe she's adopted too I guess. My flash lore is pretty rusty.

Iris WAS adopted pre-nu52. She was also from the 30th century and Ira West was a Nobel prize winning physicist rather than a police detective, so I think it's safe to say liberties will be taken on way or the other.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Neocide on December 18, 2013, 06:16:15 am
okay yea I'm not really well known in flash verse. I know iris is wally's aunt or something, but I don't know much about her.
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Post by: Roman55 on December 18, 2013, 11:57:02 pm
Bats Vs Supes script (http://watchtowerofbabelnews.blogspot.com/2013/12/argo-scribe-chris-terrio-to-rewrite.html?spref=tw) is getting rewritten by Argo's Chris Terrio.
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Post by: Sky79 on December 19, 2013, 01:28:26 am
And if they wanted someone physically imposing, there is always Mongul, who is miles more interesting than Doomsday.
Doomsday only glory was actually "killing" Superman, nothing else. As Mr. Jay said, it would have been better if Doomsday stayed dead after that fight.

He wasn't dead, he was knocked the f*** out.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Roman55 on December 19, 2013, 02:19:31 am
No he really was dead. He just has some goofy ability to come back to life from that kind of stuff.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on December 19, 2013, 04:17:13 am
It just so happens that Superman was only MOSTLY dead. There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one thing you can do.
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 19, 2013, 04:23:41 am
okay yea I'm not really well known in flash verse. I know iris is wally's aunt or something, but I don't know much about her.
Who's Wally? I know no one by that name. Barry Allen has always been the Flash, and we have always been at war with Eastasia.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Neocide on December 19, 2013, 04:29:29 am
YOU......WILL......KNOW.....MY......FURY.....


>:C
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Post by: Bea on December 19, 2013, 05:06:57 pm
There is a reason I have put "killing" between quotes.


Still, Doomsday is a terrible choice of a villain for this film. Heck... so far this film is only made of terrible choices. -_-
Why can Marvel get all the good directors, story writers, actors and stuff while we DC fans have to suffer through this kind of thing? :'(
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Post by: QuickFist on December 19, 2013, 05:10:24 pm
Heck... so far this film is only made of terrible choices. -_-

Indeed, I'm not sure if I wanna watch it, since Affleck, it all went downhill
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on December 20, 2013, 03:01:12 am
No he really was dead. He just has some goofy ability to come back to life from that kind of stuff.

May want to reread WWaS. While they were trying to 'save' Superman, DD was still moving.
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 20, 2013, 06:10:28 am
Joaquin Phoenix is being courted for a role in Batman vs. Superman (http://www.avclub.com/article/warner-bros-reportedly-wants-joaquin-phoenix-aroun-106603), with some speculating the role to be Luthor.

Except, Phoenix isn't exactly easy to work with and isn't one for franchises, so there's no guarantee they'd be able to keep him around if they do manage to get him for one movie, and also, Bryan Cranston is right there and I know that's what every idiot on the internet wants because hey look he portrayed a bald evil guy but Cranston is a great actor and would do well in the role and c'mon.

Why can Marvel get all the good directors, story writers, actors and stuff while we DC fans have to suffer through this kind of thing? :'(
Because Marvel Studios started up directly from Marvel instead of Marvel being absorbed into a media empire (I know, Disney, shut up, Marvel Studios is still a thing and it's completely subsumed) and thus actually gives a shit about the properties and takes risks with them.

:(
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Post by: SNT on December 20, 2013, 06:49:08 am
Jeez, how many people has Luthor been shopped around to now?  Joaquin Phoenix, Callan Mulvey, Terry O'Quinn, Bryan Cranston, Jackie Earl Haley, Denzel Washington, hell I've seen some of the gossip sites throw around Nathan Fillion's name.
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Post by: Bea on December 20, 2013, 02:35:15 pm
... Joaquin Phoenix as Luthor?
Please, don't let it come to be. This keeps getting worse by the minute.
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Post by: Segatron on December 20, 2013, 02:41:10 pm
Hmmn If this is the cast than I pray the movie becomes a development hell.
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Post by: GOH on December 20, 2013, 03:21:34 pm
... Joaquin Phoenix as Luthor?
Please, don't let it come to be. This keeps getting worse by the minute.
This movie was already doomed from the moment they decided to insert Batman in it. There's no point in hoping for anything good anymore.
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Post by: walt on December 20, 2013, 03:37:08 pm
Terry O'Quinn
:smitten:

#Lostie

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Post by: Sky79 on December 20, 2013, 04:22:36 pm
Terry O'Quinn
:smitten:

#Lostie

A bit to old.

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Post by: Jmorphman on December 29, 2013, 01:19:00 am
RUMOR: Denzel Washington is gonna play John Stewart (http://nukethefridge.com/2013/12/27/exclusive-denzel-lex-hes-playing-green-lantern-superman-vs-batman/) (the Green Lantern not the host of the Daily Show)

Well that's pretty much spot-on casting. Because it's Denzel... as long as he actually gave a shit and acted. Which I wouldn't bet on.
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Post by: QuickFist on December 29, 2013, 01:24:00 am
Yeah I saw this somewhere else, but since it's a rumor I didn't wanted to post it.
I don't think Denzel should be John Stewart, like there isn't any other good black actor, TBH I really don't like the idea of a Denzel GL
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 29, 2013, 01:26:05 am
I mean he's a bit old for the part (he's pushing 60) but he doesn't look it and they could probably make him a contemporary of Batman. I think he could pull it off, but only if he gave a shit about the role.
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Post by: QuickFist on December 29, 2013, 01:29:54 am
I think he's very overrated, he's always the same
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Post by: Mechy on December 29, 2013, 01:32:30 am
He does not have the greatest range yeah, but he has been pretty damn good in a few movies.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on December 29, 2013, 03:17:10 am
Saying Denzel doesn't have range is like saying De Niro doesn't have range. There's movies like Flight where he can put in Oscar quality performances, and there's movies like Safe House where he doesn't really give a shit.

But oh baby is he the wrong choice for this role. They should be looking for a late 30's/early 40's actor that they can sign for multiple movies, but if they wanted to skew older, why not a Lance Reddick or a Keith David? Someone who's (1.) good at playing a non-nonsense kind of guy who can (2.) be extremely memorable in a reduced role that (3.) also wouldn't cost a ton of money? Why aren't you paying attention to what Marvel Studios is actually doing, Warner?
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 29, 2013, 03:29:31 am
But oh baby is he the wrong choice for this role. They should be looking for a late 30's/early 40's actor that they can sign for multiple movies, but if they wanted to skew older, why not a Lance Reddick or a Keith David? Someone who's (1.) good at playing a non-nonsense kind of guy who can (2.) be extremely memorable in a reduced role that (3.) also wouldn't cost a ton of money? Why aren't you paying attention to what Marvel Studios is actually doing, Warner?
B-b-but they have to cast people who are in blockbusters! How else will people know to watch the movie!

although to be fair almost every single super-hero Marvel has cast in their movies has been a big movie star; besides Chris Pratt (he was in Zero Dark Thirty yeah but that's not on the same level) and Chris Hemsworth (neither does 5 minutes as Captain Kirk's dad in the Star Trek reboot), who else is there?
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Post by: Byakko on December 29, 2013, 03:37:50 am
*opens the Wikipedia page for the cast of Avengers* Chris Evans was a second role at best until Fantastic Four (a forgettable couple of movies with a forgettable role, his Scott Pilgrim role was more important), Jeremy Renner (he has a few good roles but nothing incredible), Tom Hiddleston (seriously, Thor was his third movie, not counting TV series), Mark Ruffalo, Clark Gregg, Cobie Smulders... Downey and Jackson are the only real big names on that list, Johansson was known but I can't recall any big role. Everyone else, even though they weren't complete noobs and had some good titles to their name, weren't material for a string of big titles. Like Ben Affleck or Denzel Washington.
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 29, 2013, 03:47:16 am
That's why I specified super-heroes and not the supporting cast. ::)

but yeah Evans (he was given all the attention in both Fantastic Fours, and they were hits) is not that great of an example, Renner was nominated for two Oscars and was the lead in The Hurt Locker. Ruffalo is probably the least famous, but even then he starred in Zodiac and already had an Oscar nom before Avengers.

But they were all still more known than Lance Reddick and Keith David are/were. Which sucks because they (Reddick and David) are so great!

Downey is probably a decent enough example, since he was not really though of much of a leading man until Iron Man, I guess.
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Post by: Byakko on December 29, 2013, 03:51:36 am
supporting cast
Hum, that's all of the superheroes in the Avengers movie. RDJ is a big name, SLJ is too, then there's Evans, Hemsworth, Ruffalo, Johansson, Renner (okay, if he was in line for two Oscars, maybe he's the best placed of them), Hiddleston. That's all of them.
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 29, 2013, 03:52:43 am
But Loki is a supervillain!!! >:[
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Post by: Byakko on December 29, 2013, 03:56:45 am
Then disregard him and the superheroes are still unchanged.
In fact, beside Avengers, Iron Man got Cheadle, Paltrow, Rourke (who, much like RDJ, wasn't much until his rehabilitation in the Wrestler movie)... Thor has Portman, Hopkins... The supporting cast actually has far bigger names than the superheroes. Even Jackson is a supporting role.
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 29, 2013, 04:05:50 am
One thing's for sure, Marvel is so much better at the casting game than DC is that it's not even funny.

I mean Jesus even good actors can't come away unscathed, it took American Hustle to remind me how fucking great Amy Adams is, what the hell happened in Man of Steel? :(
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Post by: Speedpreacher on December 29, 2013, 04:09:12 am
My point is MONEY. There's no reason to be paying Denzel big bucks for, at best, a 3 picture deal that he's probably going to half-ass when you can pay someone who'd be far better suited for less.

Don Cheadle didn't get to be War Machine because of all that Ocean's Eleven star power, he got to be War Machine because he was willing to do it for less money. Marvel signs their actors into multi-picture deals for a song and re-negotiates only if the actor leaving would cut into the success of the next film. Warner for all intents and purposes throws money away and wonders why their stuff outside of Batman fails to meet their expectations.

it took American Hustle to remind me how fucking great Amy Adams is, what the hell happened in Man of Steel? :(

Because Zack Snyder couldn't direct a cat to claw at a curtain. It's just a shame my lovely princess Amy had to be Lois in his movie.
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Post by: Jmorphman on December 29, 2013, 04:26:19 am
Denzel in actually-giving-a-shit-mode would kill as John, IMO, but I'm certainly not gonna expect anything other than him sleepwalking through all his scenes. If he even is cast.

But then again Superman movies have a long tradition of paying big actors ludicrous amounts of money to half-ass their way through their roles, going all the way back to Marlon Brando's Jor-El. Of all the things they could've kept from those movies, they've truly picked the best. Like, can you just imagine where would we be without the inane Christ metaphors?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 29, 2013, 04:42:56 am
I've been waiting years for the Legion movie with Cosmic Boy as Saul/Paul spreading the word of Superman across the universe.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on December 29, 2013, 04:52:10 am
I want Matter Eater Lad (because he's simply the best (http://mightygodking.com/images/tenzil-rocks.jpg)), a cameo from Arm Fall Off Boy, lots of Braniac 5 being a smarmy dick, and a non-werewolf Timber Wolf.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on December 29, 2013, 03:42:07 pm
Because Zack Snyder couldn't direct a cat to claw at a curtain. It's just a shame my lovely princess Amy had to be Lois in his movie.

 :laugh4:  Ya got me there, my guts hurt
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SlenderMan on December 29, 2013, 04:04:04 pm
Ben Affleck might actually be a worse choice than George Clooney as Bruce Wayne/Batman IMO.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on December 30, 2013, 12:08:17 am
Ben Affleck might actually be a worse choice than George Clooney as Bruce Wayne/Batman IMO.

George Clooney could have played a great Bruce/Batman, he has the acting chops. The problem is, both he, the writers and 'Shoeshmucker' have no respect for the character.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Roman55 on December 30, 2013, 12:12:36 am
Schumacher may still get shit but to be fair he at least apologized.  And a LOT of the stuff wrong with Batman & Robin was due to marketing execs.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: MDI on December 30, 2013, 07:16:19 am
Yeah you'd think that the guy who did Falling Down and created an awesome character like D-Fens would have made Batman a badass. Too bad the movies were just giant toy commercials.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SNT on December 31, 2013, 08:04:37 am
Schumacher may still get shit but to be fair he at least apologized.  And a LOT of the stuff wrong with Batman & Robin was due to marketing execs.
Real talk?  Burton made two Burton movies starring Batman, and Nolan made a Nolan trilogy starring Batman; each good in their own right, but still more of themselves than the source material.  At least we were spared Helena Bonham Carter as Catwoman by a good 12 years or so, but I digress.  Schumacher was the only one to try and make an actual Batman movie.  If he'd have just dialed it down a little and stood up to the execs a bit, we could've had something on par with TAS.

As for Clooney, he made for a terrible Batman, but a good Bruce Wayne.  Either way, a better script and who knows what might've happened.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Mgbenz on December 31, 2013, 08:33:08 am
Were the execs responsible for the bat-nipples?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on December 31, 2013, 08:58:03 am
Schumacher was the only one to try and make an actual Batman movie.  If he'd have just dialed it down a little and stood up to the execs a bit, we could've had something on par with TAS.
No. Just no. That's absurd. He's just not that good of a filmmaker; his best movies are in the end just kinda meh. Even if one ascribes the excesses of his two Batman movies on the executives, the stuff that's left isn't really anything noteworthy, it's all just standard Batman stuff that's not even done that well. And I find it hard to believe everything terrible about those movies was the sole result of the studios. Forever was of course a reaction against the super kid-unfriendliness of Returns, and gives a pretty good look into what the execs were happy with. Why, then, did everything go so overboard with Batman and Robin? It can't all be the execs, Schumacher had sway, he had to have had major influence on the movie.

And that influence wasn't pretty.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SNT on December 31, 2013, 09:24:33 am
I said he tried, I didn't say he succeeded.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on December 31, 2013, 10:12:29 am
Right, but there's nothing that really shows that he'd do anything better than mediocre if he had absolutely zero studio interference.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Graphicus on December 31, 2013, 05:50:21 pm
Relevant: http://www.movies.com/movie-news/batman-and-robin-featurette/11822?wssac=164&wssaffid=news&wss=mdcmkttwitter

(Not stating an opinion. Just posting an interesting link :P)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Segatron on January 02, 2014, 06:16:05 am
Well Joel Schuamer did fucked it up no doubt A franchise with great start ended horribly...... 
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Neocide on January 07, 2014, 03:56:58 am
http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/scifi/womans-origins-major-alteration-man-steel-2.html 


No, just NO. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hh
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SNT on January 07, 2014, 06:41:37 am
Clark had the edge over Zod and Faora because he had spent his whole adolescence sucking up yellow sun power and dealing with the senses thing while they'd not only just arrived but were also shielding themselves from it.

And now they're saying that because the Amazonians are descendants of colonial Kryptonians who have been sucking up yellow sun power generation after generation after generation, that means they'll be weaker than Superman?

Shit, I can overlook all sorts of poorly hashed out things for the sake of a movie, but this should be glaringly obvious to anyone.



In better news, WB came to their senses and now Cobie Smulders is Wonder Woman. HIDDEN TEXT HERE==>In The Lego Movie.  HA!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on January 07, 2014, 07:33:48 am
Y'know, I thought they might do something like this (I totally predicted something that was pretty plausible, god I sound like a douchenozzle), but... Jesus, them actually doing is just so completely awful. And then the power level shit. So now they're not only making Wonder Woman, the first goddamn female superhero, the most well-known one, whose name still has a lot of recognition to it, and they not only make her movie debut in a movie about Batman and Superman fighting and then discovering their true love for each other or whatever, but they make her a derivative of Superman and substantially weaker than him too.

Fucking Christ. I really hope that this is just a totally batshit fake rumor.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Neocide on January 07, 2014, 07:40:53 am
I hope so too. Because all this is doing is making Wonder woman less and less her own character and making her a superman support character.

Dc is really fucking up, then again I mean cmon they are doing an animated movie on the new 52 already, and they gave batman a chinstrap -_-
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on January 07, 2014, 07:45:37 am
Quote
a movie about Batman and Superman fighting and then discovering their true love

not sure if on purpose.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on January 07, 2014, 07:53:21 am
Let's be honest here, a fair amount of World's Finest comics (and especially Loeb's run of Batman/Superman) basically end about ten seconds before they'd become straight-up slash fiction.

It's pretty weird! And also hot.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Mechy on January 07, 2014, 08:01:59 am
I would watch it.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SNT on January 07, 2014, 08:09:51 am
So I just saw the trailer for that New 52 movie.

Where's John?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on January 07, 2014, 11:04:39 pm
So they pick a weak, tiny model with no real respect for her, play Wonder Woman, turn her into a sidekick style character to Superman, ruin her backstory, trash Greek mythology and now have a 60 year old man play Green Lantern?!? Da F**K!

*starts drinking*
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on January 14, 2014, 03:44:31 am
So remember that show, Gotham, that was supposed to be about Commissioner Gordon, with occasional appearances by Bruce Wayne as a kid? Well forget all that nonsense it's actually Smallville but with Batman this time, (http://www.avclub.com/article/foxs-gotham-will-feature-classic-batman-villains-a-106904) and will follow 12 year old Bruce up until he puts on the cape; villains such as Catwoman, Penguin, and the Riddler will also apparently appear and the series will show how they became villains or something. The series is to serve as an origin series for the new Batman franchise, and it all sounds awful.

I mean, seriously. It has sounded more and more dreadful each piece of news and now it's just straight up Smallville: Batman edition. So I guess eventually Bruce Wayne will be running around fighting crime in a leather jacket, doing things that don't make sense for him to be doing before he becomes Batman, fighting iconic villains but hey don't worry it doesn't count this time for some reason, spinning things out for 10 years until Bruce is a 30 year old man with multiple Robins, is a member of the Justice League, has had a son whom he knows about and has met/teamed up with, has an entire rogues gallery, and every episode will contain overbearing hints that he needs to make a SYMBOL to make criminals FEAR HIM and become a real superhero even though he already is one.

and it's kind of worse for Batman, especially with the villain stuff; one of the strongest ideas that has developed in the Batman mythos is that Batman's appearance causes crime to evolve, to produce super-villains. Batman arrives in Gotham and defeats crime. But crime can't die, so it becomes something else. Something like the Joker, or the Riddler. Even organized crime changes, and is controlled by people obsessed with birds or have a funeral mask fused to their face or crazy shit like that.

But that's going to be lost here. I know it will be, because they'll have all those people have their origins on the show, and they'll operate as super-villains, all before Batman. And in doing so, they toss out one of the coolest, most interesting themes of Batman. And that really stinks.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Neocide on January 14, 2014, 01:41:59 pm
I totally agree with all of that, and this really makes me worry in general about it. None of the other superhero's really have that sort of aspect to them. Others were already established or a byproduct of something else.

This is DC trying to pull an arrow with their most profitable franchise outside of superman. This is going to be bad,really bad. Hopefully it'll get cancelled. Establishing any of bats' main rogues would totally kill a huge part of him entirely, And if the show is actually good, it still ruins a huge chunk of the mytho from him.

:/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on January 14, 2014, 03:18:02 pm
People rightly give Shoeshmucker hell for his work in the franchise. But lets keep in mind who the real problem was, someone somewhere deep in DC 'green lit' movie(s) like that, what this tells me is that DC has issues within the company. Hacks, that do things like this need to be fired, not simply because of the respect the company looses, but the bare bone fact is they loose hundreds of millions of dollars when they don't treat fans and casual watchers with respect. Quick, cash in shows/movie(s) like what we are seeing being built are bad for business.

They'll say, 'oh well, lets try this next', and sleep sweet that night. But, it's the characters that suffer for it. They have to be fired, it's the only way.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Person Man on January 14, 2014, 03:38:34 pm
It's like I keep saying:  Warner just wants to compete with Marvel's Avengers franchise without bothering to try to understand what made Avengers work.  They made a movie with all their superheroes?  Fuck it, our next movie has all our superheroes.  They made a tie-in TV show?  Fuck it, we're making a tie-in TV show.  It doesn't matter if it makes sense, just do it.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on January 14, 2014, 03:41:55 pm
Just for 'kicks' (pun), I got your Batman and GreenLantern right here-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t03wigE8GK0

I Vote Scott Atkins for Batman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on January 15, 2014, 04:13:10 am
And the worst thing about all this is the fact that they have Batman and Superman means they don't really need to do the same things Marvel, and show everyone the origin of those two. They could've easily skipped all of it, either starting off directly with a Batman/Superman movie or a reboot of Superman and then the team-up, while doing a Wonder Woman movie and a Flash one, and more too. They're probably shooting for a 2017 (or 2018? IDK whenever Avengers 3 is supposed to come out) release for their Justice League movie, and that would give them plenty of time to set up the characters who actually do need individual movies. But instead we've got another goddamn origin for Batman. Really fucking great, Warner Brothers.

also that Constantine series is going to pilot, and NBC is contractually obligated to show it no matter what (http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2014/01/john-constantine-pilot-order-nbc/); and a reminder, this is going to be co-written by visionary screenwriter David S. Goyer (Man of Steel), so, yeah
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on January 18, 2014, 03:30:08 am
http://batman-news.com/2014/01/17/batman-vs-superman-release-date-delayed-until-may-6-2016/

Alas, poor Man of murder, I knew him well.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on January 18, 2014, 10:39:47 am
http://batman-news.com/2014/01/17/batman-vs-superman-release-date-delayed-until-may-6-2016/

Alas, poor Man of murder, I knew him well.

Finally, a beacon of hope.
This film might be going into development hell and, praise Odin, will never hit the big screen! :D
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on January 18, 2014, 04:43:43 pm
Yes! Do it right, or don't do it at all WB  :buttrox:

But, Ben A. will be trying to play a 36 year old man, when in RL he'll be pushing 50.

Edit:
Maybe 'Gal' will grow hips by then.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SNT on January 20, 2014, 06:35:10 am
Here's more, I think? (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=93171#PDSxC62pjqQPdyqQ.99)  How reliable is this site?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Neocide on January 20, 2014, 08:19:27 pm
http://www.superherohype.com/news/287993-trailer-for-dc-animated-film-son-of-batman-debuts
batmans chinstrap lives on
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on January 21, 2014, 03:05:34 am
Love the chinstrap, hate that frigging kid........but.........we don't have to worry about him now do we  :hanged:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now But for how long?
Post by: Iced on January 22, 2014, 03:57:12 am
http://www.cinematallica.com/exclusive-is-ben-affleck-threatening-to-quit-batman-vs-superman/


a running rumour is that Arthur Curry is a environmental activist investigating the effects that the World Engine had on the surrounding marine lifeforms.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on January 22, 2014, 04:11:08 am
It's like they're trying to make the stupidest creative decisions imaginable.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on January 22, 2014, 10:33:51 am
It's like they're trying to make the stupidest creative decisions imaginable.

This, so much this.

I just hope that the rumour about Affleck leaving this mess comes true, screwing everything in the process so that Warner has no other option but drop this project.
There is no salvation for this mess. Just kill it at once and start fresh.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on January 22, 2014, 05:45:36 pm
/me googles (hah, that's a verb) "Arthur Curry DC wiki"

Ah, Aquaman. I never had any idea of where that guy came from, and none of his origins seem plausible or reasonable. Having Atlantis exist as an unexplored, unknown continent in the sea, without having contact with the rest of the modern world sounds like the most stupidest thing they could aim form, ever. Same goes for WW's origin.

So, what would you guys rather have their origins be? I mean, seriously, at least let me try to unsderstand what would be "acceptable" for you guys.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on January 22, 2014, 06:27:29 pm
Bitten by a radioactive dolphin, Arthur curry awakens to find his body changed in strange bizarre ways! He is now able to talk to fish and breathe underwater without any tools!
Taking on a new customed identity he becomes the Sea Man Aquaman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on January 22, 2014, 06:43:57 pm
I also find Sam Reimi's SpiderMan saga to be THE stupidest. My 2 cents.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on January 22, 2014, 07:04:01 pm
That's funny cause it's the exact same origin as Webb's Spider-Man :V
Having Atlantis exist as an unexplored, unknown continent in the sea, without having contact with the rest of the modern world sounds like the most stupidest thing they could aim form, ever. Same goes for WW's origin.

So, what would you guys rather have their origins be? I mean, seriously, at least let me try to unsderstand what would be "acceptable" for you guys.
Uh, just their normal origins? Atlantis and Themyscira are literally magic, and I know for a fact that the latter is magically hidden from the world. If the rumors about Wonder Woman's origins in the new movie are true then they won't even have that; there will probably be some technological cloaking going on.

I'm pretty sure the same is usually true of Atlantis but I'm not completely sure. And even if it wasn't it's deep under the sea, there's enough wiggle room there.

But in the end all of that is really really unimportant. This is the same universe in which aliens who literally look exactly like humans can fly and shoot lasers out of their eyes because the color of the sun: believability ain't the most important thing here. The "ancient advanced kingdom unknown from the rest of the world" trope has existed for millenia, and it's not going anywhere. There's absolutely nothing wrong with either Themyscira or Atlantis, and any implausiblities are easily hand-waved away. And they're already keeping Themyscira anyway!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: dakidbanks on January 22, 2014, 10:47:51 pm
/me googles (hah, that's a verb) "Arthur Curry DC wiki"

Ah, Aquaman. I never had any idea of where that guy came from, and none of his origins seem plausible or reasonable. Having Atlantis exist as an unexplored, unknown continent in the sea, without having contact with the rest of the modern world sounds like the most stupidest thing they could aim form, ever. Same goes for WW's origin.

So, what would you guys rather have their origins be? I mean, seriously, at least let me try to unsderstand what would be "acceptable" for you guys.

Idk.... this DC cinematic universe had Kryptonian ships right inside an unexplored cave of ice with a clear entryway that Lois walked through following Superman.

I really don't mind the Atlantis existing as an unknown unexplored continent in the sea thing because that's generally how Atlantis has always started off portrayed to my knowledge.

The WW origin would be the most difficult to explain because her residence is actually on land and would be difficult to explain why its unknown.... unless its off the radar and shielded like Gorilla City.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on January 22, 2014, 10:59:16 pm
Well thats just it, leaders of some contries have people believing events in history arent real.  Some believe we never walked on the moon, because they think it can't be done. Hell, there are still places on earth we just can't make it to.  It's a bit arrogant to think that we tiny humans can and have been everywhere and know everything.

"Legends" stay that way till people find out they're real
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Segatron on January 28, 2014, 01:40:03 am
http://www.superherohype.com/news/287993-trailer-for-dc-animated-film-son-of-batman-debuts
batmans chinstrap lives on

Love the chinstrap, hate that frigging kid........but.........we don't have to worry about him now do we  :hanged:

hmmmmn
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: SNT on January 31, 2014, 07:05:36 pm
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20140131005753/en

Jeremy Irons as Alfred, Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on January 31, 2014, 07:10:55 pm
is this a fucking joke
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: QuickFist on January 31, 2014, 07:11:51 pm
WHAT!?
That's it, direct-to-trash can film
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: AerosMugen on January 31, 2014, 07:15:05 pm
Holy crap, that's a terrible casting choice, I don't mind Irons as Alfred but Eisenberg surely is a terrible, terrible choice for the role.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 31, 2014, 07:16:12 pm
His Holiness Pope Scar is an inspired choice for Alfred, but it sounds like someone accidentally wrote Lex Luthor in the space where Jimmy Olson should be.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on January 31, 2014, 07:18:14 pm
Lex, a startup milionaire, rose to power via social networking

"lex at computer with paint on,opens a superman picture,  types in big impact font
"SUPERMAN OR MURDERMAN"

Print send in to lexgag"
Another plan well thought out.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 31, 2014, 07:34:33 pm
now I hope this movie si so bad it becomes the van-damme-street-fighter-ii of this generation; that's the only thing that can save it now.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on January 31, 2014, 07:39:10 pm
now I hope this movie si so bad it becomes the van-damme-street-fighter-ii of this generation; that's the only thing that can save it now.

That won't be possible. Van Damme Street Fighter II had Raul Julia to ham the show up to 11.
This one has nothing.

Jeremy Irons as Alfred I like.
Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor is a joke of very poor taste.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on January 31, 2014, 08:03:02 pm
Holy crap, that's a terrible casting choice, I don't mind Irons as Alfred but Eisenberg surely is a terrible, terrible choice for the role.

Agreed, this just poped into my head on hearing about it-

Batman:"Morning Alfr--"
Alfred:"I KILLED MUFASA!"
Batman:"What?"
Alfred:"Oh, uh, nothing Master Bruce......Tea?"
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on January 31, 2014, 08:06:49 pm
Eisenberg is a fantastic actor but I can't imagine another actor who would be worse for the role of Lex Luthor than him. Maybe Michael Cera, because he doesn't even have playing an amoral tech genius on his resume?

I mean, that scenario Iced posted really isn't far beyond the realms of possibility. They want a hip young Luthor, probably throw in some painfully awkward references to social media, so why not grab the guy who played the inventor of Facebook?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Mechy on January 31, 2014, 08:11:26 pm
Lex Luthor is bald and adult sized right? Those are both pretty big obstacles for Eisenberg.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: AerosMugen on January 31, 2014, 08:13:44 pm
The baldness is not an issue actually, is everything else.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Person Man on January 31, 2014, 08:14:40 pm
It's like they're trying to do everything wrong.  And you know what?  I'm down with that.  This movie's pretty much beyond all hope at this point, so let's just enjoy the ride to the bottom.  I wanna see just how bad this is going to get.  Should be fun.  :D
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on January 31, 2014, 08:17:02 pm
Well, perhaps they have cast him because they need someone so young and pathetic looking that even the Man of Mass Murder and Destruction won't have the heart to snap the neck of.

This is a world were the Man of Steel is fine with murdering hundreds of thousands of people and then snapping the neck of his enemy.
Being old, intimidating and powerful would cost Lex his life pretty quickly, I guess.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: MDI on February 01, 2014, 12:25:12 am
now I hope this movie si so bad it becomes the van-damme-street-fighter-ii of this generation; that's the only thing that can save it now.

Worse. It might be the DC equivalent of Legend of Chun-Li.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on February 01, 2014, 12:33:38 am
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1184777_652509854813428_917541963_n.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: MDI on February 01, 2014, 12:47:22 am
Sweet mother of God...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on February 05, 2014, 04:20:13 pm
https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1184777_652509854813428_917541963_n.jpg
Link is dead.

But I already saw what it was before it mysteriously died; Michael Cera as the Joker and Jonah Hill as Penguin. And you know what, that actually made me think: Eisenburg would be a phenomenal Riddler. Like hot damn, that would be some fantastic casting.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on February 05, 2014, 04:45:59 pm
Cera as a romero joker would be cool.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on February 05, 2014, 04:46:13 pm
Eisenburg would be a phenomenal Riddler. Like hot damn, that would be some fantastic casting.

 :iloveyou:

We need a photoshop ASAP!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on February 05, 2014, 04:48:01 pm
Cera as a romero joker would be cool.

But that kid can't grow a moustache. One can't be Romero Joker without a moustache.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on February 05, 2014, 04:51:20 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/9f3f36be587cf6e7f422b097616d57eb/tumblr_n0ah05EI4E1qd9jlto1_500.jpg)

new link of that awesomeness lol
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on February 05, 2014, 04:56:30 pm
Cera as a romero joker would be cool.

But that kid can't grow a moustache. One can't be Romero Joker without a moustache.

He has a moustache right now.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on February 05, 2014, 04:57:48 pm
But that kid can't grow a moustache. One can't be Romero Joker without a moustache.
Yes he can. He has one right now!
(http://cdn03.cdn.thesuperficial.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/23/the-crap-we-missed-0123-26-435x580.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on February 05, 2014, 04:58:42 pm
But that kid can't grow a moustache. One can't be Romero Joker without a moustache.
Yes he can. He has one right now!
(http://cdn03.cdn.thesuperficial.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/23/the-crap-we-missed-0123-26-435x580.jpg)

You two dare call that a moustache? :P

This is a moustache:
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Gn-5VRnW9H4/TzvwFw95VjI/AAAAAAAAA8Q/5JNGTo2Ad1M/s1600/romero.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on February 05, 2014, 05:03:45 pm
... not really seeing much of a difference. About the same size and thickness. :-\

it's not like Cera's is a whiskery, not-really-there one. He has one. He can grow one. He just should shave it off because it makes him look like a pedophile.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on February 05, 2014, 05:34:43 pm
It is definitely not the same thickness.
Cera's has quite visible bald areas. Check his left upper lip (artistic right) and you will see patches of hair, empty area, patches of hair, empty area and so on.

And yes, he looks horrible with that thing. :P
Unlike Cesar Romero...  :sweetheart:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Mechy on February 05, 2014, 05:36:05 pm
Cera is just a really weird looking guy.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Rote Zaungast on February 05, 2014, 06:18:00 pm
Eisenberg is a fantastic actor
*louis ck scream*

what movie would that be
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on February 05, 2014, 06:24:50 pm
Uhh... The Social Network? The movie that won him an Oscar nomination? Is that a bad performance now? C'mon, dude's great.

It is definitely not the same thickness.
Cera's has quite visible bald areas. Check his left upper lip (artistic right) and you will see patches of hair, empty area, patches of hair, empty area and so on.
Yeah I dunno I'm not seeing it. I think you're just biased by your love of Romero, but I can't exactly blame you. :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: QuickFist on February 05, 2014, 06:25:49 pm
I see it
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on February 05, 2014, 06:40:28 pm
It is definitely not the same thickness.
Cera's has quite visible bald areas. Check his left upper lip (artistic right) and you will see patches of hair, empty area, patches of hair, empty area and so on.
Yeah I dunno I'm not seeing it. I think you're just biased by your love of Romero, but I can't exactly blame you. :P

There is also my kitty (who is my current avatar), whose moustache is thicker and manlier than Cera's. And my kitty is a she. :P

So yeah, Cera's "moustache" looks pretty unconvincing for me.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on February 05, 2014, 06:44:46 pm
Eisenberg is a fantastic actor
*louis ck scream*what movie would that be
Uhh... The Social Network? The movie that won him an Oscar nomination? Is that a bad performance now? C'mon, dude's great.
Thank you. He's an ABOVE DECENT actor. He should do fine ... if the writing is any good.

HA! good luck with that

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Rote Zaungast on February 05, 2014, 07:16:51 pm
I thought I was missing something other than social network, in which he didn't necessarily do bad, except I was hoping to get the name of a movie where he's not the same character


also you gave "fantastic" to ben whishaw how dare you
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on February 05, 2014, 07:31:12 pm
There's "Now you see me" in which he was likeable.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on February 05, 2014, 09:35:29 pm
Zuckerburg wasn't that similar to the type he usually plays, IMO. But who cares if he's not an out an out chameleon, not every actor is nor needs to be. I mean, character actors are a thing!

I see it
So yeah, Cera's "moustache" looks pretty unconvincing for me.
Man you guys need to stop being so mustache-racist. It's a fine mustache, not the best, and not at all suited to his face, but he can at least grow one.

also you gave "fantastic" to ben whishaw how dare you
What's wrong with Whishaw?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: MDI on February 06, 2014, 12:50:25 am
I think Bea's cat should play Lex Luthor.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Rote Zaungast on February 06, 2014, 07:33:05 am
What's wrong with Whishaw?
that every time you say fantastic it better be whishaw tier [frowning emotecon]*spank*

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: walt on February 06, 2014, 05:02:40 pm
Remember when I said this about Jesse Eisenberg?

He should do fine ... if the writing is any good.  HA! good luck with that

Well (rumors ahead) ...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/02/06/lex-luthor-to-be-tattooed-skinhead-street-punk

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on February 06, 2014, 05:29:47 pm
They are trying so, but so hard to make this a total failure and laughing stock that I consider that rumour a real possibility for Lex character.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Mechy on February 06, 2014, 05:30:44 pm
Oh good grief.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on February 11, 2014, 08:56:49 pm
Alfred, The Penguin, Barbara not yet Gordon (Commissioner Gordon's wife, not Batgirl), and Sarah Essen have been cast. (http://www.avclub.com/article/gotham-casts-its-penguin-alfred-other-nonbatman-ro-107664) Interestingly, Sarah Essen will be Gordon's superior officer, not his partner, but I dunno if that will have any bearing on whether their Year One plotline might happen.

More controversial is The Penguin's casting; the guy they cast is a lanky guy whose Oswald Copplepot will apparently be a street punk, because that's what you think of when you think the Penguin. (I know, prequel, they'll show him work his way up or something, but street punk, really?)

that every time you say fantastic it better be whishaw tier [frowning emotecon]*spank*
Fine, fine. Eisenburg is merely great, happy?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Roman55 on February 12, 2014, 12:26:19 am
Wait so first we have unprivileged Luthor and now lanky broke Penguin?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on March 14, 2014, 10:40:25 am
The Batman/Superman script isn't done yet. (http://thedissolve.com/news/1722-the-script-for-batman-vs-superman-isnt-finished-ye/) Also, shooting is supposed to start in a few weeks.

I will note that Iron Man 1 also started shooting without a completed script, and I'm no doubt sure that all will agree that having gifted comedic improvisers like Ben Affleck and Big McLargeHuge (or Splint Chesthair, or whatever the name of dude who plays Superman, I don't remember), who are both on the level of Robert Downey Jr. when it comes to that kind of thing, and having such a gifted, visonary director like Zack Snyder, will be able to overcome this issue.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Bea on March 14, 2014, 01:14:19 pm
....

HAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh gods, they are trying so hard to make the worst film possible.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on March 14, 2014, 04:11:21 pm
Alfred, The Penguin, Barbara not yet Gordon (Commissioner Gordon's wife, not Batgirl), and Sarah Essen have been cast. (http://www.avclub.com/article/gotham-casts-its-penguin-alfred-other-nonbatman-ro-107664) Interestingly, Sarah Essen will be Gordon's superior officer, not his partner, but I dunno if that will have any bearing on whether their Year One plotline might happen.

More controversial is The Penguin's casting; the guy they cast is a lanky guy whose Oswald Copplepot will apparently be a street punk, because that's what you think of when you think the Penguin. (I know, prequel, they'll show him work his way up or something, but street punk, really?)


part of his origin story will involve him at a buffet eating shrimp until he is large enough to face the bat.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Sky79 on March 14, 2014, 09:01:57 pm
And the umbrella wont have a gun or sword built in, it'll be a pocket knife duck taped to the handle, because we need to be realistic here; it's not like they sell them in real life-

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Iced on March 15, 2014, 12:20:27 am
http://whatculture.com/film/5-reasons-dc-filmverse-already-better-marvels.php

#rekt
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: 5 reasons why dc is already better than the MCU
Post by: Jmorphman on March 15, 2014, 12:24:26 am
current thread title said:
DC Cinematic Universe: 5 reasons why dc is already better than the MCU
no, no we're not doing this. Fuck you and fuck you for posting that horrible link. .\/.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Byakko on March 15, 2014, 12:25:46 am
that article's introduction paragraphe said:
let’s examine why right meow the DC filmverse is already better than Marvel’s.
*close tab*
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: 5 reasons why dc is already better than the MCU
Post by: Sky79 on March 15, 2014, 12:28:21 am
current thread title said:
DC Cinematic Universe: 5 reasons why dc is already better than the MCU
no, no we're not doing this. Fuck you and fuck you for posting that horrible link. .\/.
HaHaHaHa, I needed that
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: MDI on March 15, 2014, 12:39:34 am
This list is awful...

It might as well be a 10 year old listing his reasons why DC is better then Marvel. I LIKE DC CUZ IT HAS BATMAN AND SUPURMAN AND THEYRE BETER CUZ THEY R AWESOME.

No, seriously, that is one of the reasons listed.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on March 15, 2014, 12:41:43 am
I do love that hiring Zack Snyder, director of such mega-popular films like Dawn of the Dead and 300, is more of a risk than Marvel's hiring of the guy who directed Slither, the director of Shaun of the Dead and Scott Pilgrim, or even Kenneth Branagh.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Mechy on March 15, 2014, 12:44:39 am
I was really gonna post the AM hate speech gif as a response for that, but I held out.

What a fucking moron though.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Iced on March 15, 2014, 12:53:31 am
here is a writedown for everyone who isnt into slideshows


1-DC is darker and far more adult than Marvel.  Marvel is too kid friendly.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
2- You just dont know what DC is planning while with marvel you know too much!
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
3-superman and batman are SUPERIOR

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
4-The Nolan movies!
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
5- SNYDER is a bigger risk than anything marvel ever did
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: ESFAndy011 on March 16, 2014, 07:14:25 am
Quote
3. Batman Vs. Superman
Superman Batman

This is an unfair one. Marvel simply can’t compete. There’s no match-up in their catalog that amounts to the awesomeness that is Batman Vs. Superman.

OH NO, Marvel is powerless against Ben Affleck and that kid who created Facebook! What will Robert Downey Jr. do?!

And yes, I do realize that seeing is believing, but sadly we don't live in a world where an apparently terrible cast will have everyone give the movie the benefit of the doubt.

We do, however, live in a world where the guy that should've played Lex Luthor is now instead in the cast of a Godzilla remake of a remake of a fucking remake.

So there's that.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: MDI on March 16, 2014, 07:34:15 am
Clancy Brown should have just reprised his role as Lex from the animated series. Even if he doesn't look like a racially ambiguous guy in real life.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Aldo on March 16, 2014, 07:40:55 am
that article's introduction paragraphe said:
let’s examine why right meow the DC filmverse is already better than Marvel’s.
*close tab*

Seriously, how people expect other people to read an article or whatever when they start it in just a silly way. lol.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Joulz on March 16, 2014, 07:44:44 am
good fucking luck, DC/Warner Bros: the idea to have Batman & Superman in the same movie was most excellent...unfortunately, the focus on trying to eventually catch up with what Marvel have build in the last 10 years will make them fail very hard.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on April 04, 2014, 01:04:46 am
Holly Hunter and a few other actors have been cast in Batman/Superman Dark of the Knight or whatever the fuck they're calling it, as "characters never before seen in the DC Comics universe," (http://www.avclub.com/article/holly-hunter-joins-batman-superman-movie-presumabl-203032) because who the fuck wants to see comics characters in a Batman/Superman movie. DC and Warner Bros know what people want!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: QuickFist on April 04, 2014, 01:14:09 am
Oh jesus...
Why? Why is this happening to the two greatest superheroes?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Roman55 on April 04, 2014, 01:24:13 am
Dark Clusterfuck Of The Knight: Featuring Batman and Superman
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Nero D. on April 04, 2014, 04:40:11 am
as terrible as everything ive read on the last 2 pages is terrible as shit, remember that harley quinn was a "character you've never seen before" as in she made her debut in btas and she was awesome until they changed her outfit fuck fuck fuck


oh that list is awful and holds no water so i wouldn't even dwell on it
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on April 25, 2014, 02:23:13 am
Cyborg has been cast in Batman/Superman/various Justice Leaguers (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/batman-superman-cyborg-ray-fisher-1201163390/), confirming that, don't worry, DC isn't gonna do anything crazy like use John Stewart in a movie, the Green Lantern the general public is familiar with, no. Let's just stick someone who has only had ties to the Teen Titans for his entire history before 2 years ago into the Justice League, cause he's our second-most well known black hero. (don't even think about bringing up Static, because DC is probably unaware that he exists)

The important thing is that we force Hal Jordan down everyone's throats.

Also visionary director Zack Snyder recently gave an interview wherein he lambasted people for "clinging to the Christopher Reeve version of Superman" (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/zack-snyder-everyone-clings-to-the-christopher-reeve-version-of-superman-1201159883/), which wasn't even accurate to the comics, you guys!!! He went on to say that Superman in the comics totally kills people and causes immense collateral all the time, honest, and that all he was trying to do is show the realistic consequences of violence, which is exactly what people want to see in a movie about Superman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Bea on April 25, 2014, 02:54:24 am
... I suddenly have this urge to cry.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Mechy on April 25, 2014, 03:01:42 am
What a cunt.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Roman55 on April 25, 2014, 03:18:37 am
Also visionary director Zack Snyder recently gave an interview wherein he lambasted people for "clinging to the Christopher Reeve version of Superman" (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/zack-snyder-everyone-clings-to-the-christopher-reeve-version-of-superman-1201159883/), which wasn't even accurate to the comics, you guys!!! He went on to say that Superman in the comics totally kills people and causes immense collateral all the time, honest, and that all he was trying to do is show the realistic consequences of violence, which is exactly what people want to see in a movie about Superman.
man of murder is best supes guyz, now watch as i give bats a gun

And to think, just earlier I was reading up about how the Star Trek movie reboot people were pretty much being royal pieces of shit over criticism.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Sky79 on April 27, 2014, 04:01:59 am
If I remember correctly, they were shooting in a football stadium, were they not? This may simply be Victor "Pre-Cyborg". He was a football player remember?

What pisses me off? The morons who are defending this move based on race.

From YouTube -"Yah! now John Steward isn't the only black guy"

F***ing idiots  :veryangry:
Title: Zack Snyder Confirmed to Direct The Justice League movie
Post by: Legendary DeMoNk@I on April 28, 2014, 08:23:18 am
Details here:
http://twitchfilm.com/2014/04/wb-confirms-plans-for-zack-snyder-directed-justice-league-movie.html
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Roman55 on April 28, 2014, 08:23:35 am
WB finally flat out says they've got a JLA movie coming. (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/04/27/warner-bros-details-plans-for-justice-league-movie-exclusive/) To be directed by Zach Snyder. Expect a huge body count, collateral damage and bullshit responses against negative critics.

Also they apparently aren't against a Wonder Woman spin off flick (waiting on a script), and they have plans for others like Shazam, Metal Men, and non Superhero stuff like Fables and 100 Bullets.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on April 28, 2014, 08:34:37 am
Ugh.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Bea on April 28, 2014, 12:25:00 pm
This will make Super Friends look like an excellent and thrilling show.

Good job Snyder.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: SlySuavity on April 28, 2014, 01:15:45 pm
With Marvel's Cinematic Universe around, you can only fill a cup so much.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Loona on April 28, 2014, 01:36:53 pm
The real surprise there is the mention of a Shazam movie, even if there was a past abandoned attempt.

Then again, the comics themselves have been treating the character pretty poorly, as if abandoning his actual name wasn't enough, so there's cause for concern there.

It might have a chance to do well if they pay attention to what the Return of Black Adam animation did right while making it longer and leaving out Supes as a promotional crutch.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Edtion on April 28, 2014, 05:12:36 pm
I'm gonna watch whatever they make, I don't care how terrible people think they are.
I'm even willing to re-watch Green Lantern; I definitely don't think it's a bad movie, it's not very good but it's entertaining enough for me to watch.

The most recent movie I can recall at least kind of wanting to watch but REALLY felt it was terrible, was The Spirit. I couldn't even make it half way through the film and I have no regrets about not making it any further than I already did.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Person Man on April 29, 2014, 12:10:07 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordballoon2_zps6530429e.png[/avatar]
WB finally flat out says they've got a JLA movie coming. (http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/04/27/warner-bros-details-plans-for-justice-league-movie-exclusive/) To be directed by Zach Snyder. Expect a huge body count, collateral damage and bullshit responses against negative critics.

It's totally mature and realistic to have Batman and Wonder Woman make out in the middle of the impact crater where Gotham City used to be after half of the Justice League are brutally murdered in slow motion action sequences.  That's what audiences expect to see from superheroes.  Shut up stoopid h8rs.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Sky79 on April 29, 2014, 01:01:22 am
I'm gonna watch whatever they make, I don't care how terrible people think they are.
I'm even willing to re-watch Green Lantern; I definitely don't think it's a bad movie, it's not very good but it's entertaining enough for me to watch.

*Dazzles you with his car keys*

There ya go, free of charge.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Speedpreacher on April 29, 2014, 01:57:02 am
I can't even begin to fathom how a Sny-Goy Metal Men would even work. I'm thinking Mad Men as written by the Walking Dead's team.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on April 29, 2014, 04:54:46 am
It's totally mature and realistic to have Batman and Wonder Woman make out in the middle of the impact crater where Gotham City used to be after half of the Justice League are brutally murdered in slow motion action sequences.  That's what audiences expect to see from superheroes.  Shut up stoopid h8rs.
What the hell are you talking about?

Wonder Woman and Batman? No no no no. It's Superman and Wonder Woman, duh. They're the perfect couple, because they both have superpowers, and uh, that's pretty much all. Who would even pair Wonder Woman with Batman? Idiots, that's who. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncj-wpBhr5E)

I can't even begin to fathom how a Sny-Goy Metal Men would even work. I'm thinking Mad Men as written by the Walking Dead's team.
Maybe they'll reuse that post-Crisis origin where the Metal Men are all actually humans whose minds have been transfered into robots to save their lives, because when you think Metal Men, you think "depressing tragedy", right?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: DIABLO'S PRIMAL BARBEQUE on April 29, 2014, 09:24:34 am
I'm going to be content with JL and whoever they replace anyone with as long as they get someone who can write fucking dialogue.

Man of Steel's action scenes were good, but by the House of El, that fucking dialogue...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Bea on April 29, 2014, 10:39:54 am
Relevant:

(https://24.media.tumblr.com/b00b3acb27928a1a7ca05e63905a7301/tumblr_n4rdqocP1i1rvya9ro1_1280.png)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: DIABLO'S PRIMAL BARBEQUE on April 30, 2014, 09:49:40 am
Owned.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Bea on May 04, 2014, 04:16:34 pm
http://www.newsarama.com/20980-report-nine-dc-comics-films-in-active-development-at-warner-bros.html

I have a really bad feeling about this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Loona on May 04, 2014, 11:17:26 pm
http://www.newsarama.com/20980-report-nine-dc-comics-films-in-active-development-at-warner-bros.html

I have a really bad feeling about this.

The fact that the article is headlined by an illustration of douche Shazam is not helping.

On the other hand, out of 9 movies at least something has to be decent - hopefully they'dd take a hint or 2 from what the animated versions did right (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIuK_r0kcQg).

A Metal Men movie seems like an odd bet though... I wonder if they'll end that one with that merged version of the team that shows up in Kingdom Come - Alloy, was it?...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 04, 2014, 11:32:28 pm
Actually, nu52 Shazam (at least the origin, I actively avoid Justice League) is one of the only things I think would lend itself well to a movie. I have no doubt Sny-Goy will find a way to screw it up, though.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on May 05, 2014, 02:45:00 am
I have no doubt Sny-Goy will find a way to screw it up, though.

You know David S. Goyer isn't bad writer. I'm watching his show on STARZ called "Da Vinci's Demons" which is resolve around fictional version of young Leonardo Da Vinci and while Season 1 was "just" good, Season 2 is more than awesome. It really feels like long movie divided in parts, have movie-like budget and everything. Story wise is really great mix-up of history and fantasy genre and it shows that he can write good shit.

As for Snyder he had his ups and downs so if anything goes bad in this so called DC Movieverse it will be rather his fault than Goyers though he had bad stuff in his filmography too.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: QuickFist on May 05, 2014, 03:19:38 am
Snyder: 300, Watchmen, Sucker Punch. Up and downs eh?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Mechy on May 05, 2014, 03:23:25 am
He has never had anything really "great" imo.

They way he fucked up MOS and they way he responded to the criticism makes it pretty clear he has no idea what he is doing with DC properties.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on May 05, 2014, 03:29:26 am
*DC* has no idea what its doing with its own properties. :(

I think the problem with Goyer is that his ambition heavily, heavily outweighs his talent. He wants to be a deep writer who can weave interesting metaphors into a complex plot but far too often creates a jumbled mess with incredibly shallow characters whose actions seem completely random and a plot that is nonsensical.

If he had stuck to doing things like the Blade movies (or worked with stronger directors like Nolan more often, but even then his weaknesses are still readily apparent) he'd have a much better reputation, because they catered to his strength of coming up with incredibly elaborate curses ("cock juggling thundercunt", "You're about one cunt hair away from hillbilly heaven", etc.) and didn't pretense about being an elaborate statement about the nature of heroism in the post-9/11 world, or what have you.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Sky79 on May 05, 2014, 04:06:29 am
I believe this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9XZrVtk2g8) hits the nail on the head
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Loona on May 05, 2014, 10:22:43 pm
Actually, nu52 Shazam (at least the origin, I actively avoid Justice League) is one of the only things I think would lend itself well to a movie. I have no doubt Sny-Goy will find a way to screw it up, though.

I mostly saw the origin - the fact that one of the very first things the characters does is charge money for a good deed just completely misses the point... he's supposed to have earned the powers due to being better than that and than a whole lot of people young and old - and was thus supposed to get a body whose strenght would match his spirit.

Going live action should at least force the script to spend a substantial amount of time on civilian depowered mode, where young Batson can shine, if they don't get some lil' superstar-wannabe prick to wreck that...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on May 13, 2014, 01:42:55 am
Introducing: the new Batmobile's ass!
(http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5129/46/16x9/640.jpg)
totally thought they'd just do a Tumbler but more biggerer-er, because The Dark Knight Returns. But hey, this is cool looking so far.
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Post by: GOH on May 13, 2014, 01:44:52 am
Leave it to Jmorphman to post pictures of asses

Or ass pictures
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 13, 2014, 01:49:49 am
[avatar]http://i.imgur.com/6AVKYye.png[/avatar]I have no idea what you mean.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on May 13, 2014, 02:24:59 am
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/speedpreacher/2012-night-of-the-owls-batmobile_zpsf289a954.jpg~original)

Could be the Court of Owls Batmobile. Minus the hood of course because that would be too silly for this universe.
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Post by: AerosMugen on May 13, 2014, 02:47:24 am
From that angle it looks like a Burton/Nolan batmovile mix, that could lead into a cool design actually.
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Post by: Sky79 on May 13, 2014, 03:03:53 am
Yeah Yeah..........Show me a frigging Batjet already.


 Edit:
You want practicality? Fine, but damnit get it right. Functionality + Dramatic flare = A pointy 2 man stealth jet that looks like something out of hell. 

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

And for god's sake, don't shoot it down this time, I mean really, its beyond cliche.
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Post by: Mgbenz on May 13, 2014, 05:37:58 pm
Actually, nu52 Shazam (at least the origin, I actively avoid Justice League) is one of the only things I think would lend itself well to a movie. I have no doubt Sny-Goy will find a way to screw it up, though.

Oh god no. Shazam is just about the worst character they ever rebooted.

Hey let's turn the very hero that is best known for being more good-hearted than Superman and turn him into the very kind of jerkass teenager everybody hates because REALISM!

His comic book covers even make him look like an evil menacing villain.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on May 13, 2014, 06:14:32 pm
I didn't say the reboot was true to the character! I just said it would lend itself well to a movie! There's a character arc, the hero is tested, he comes out on the other side different and learns the meaning of family. Future villains are set up in a way that doesn't distract from the main plot noticeably. Seriously, read it in full if you haven't!

Let me stress also, I don't know what they've done with him outside the origin because I refuse to read Justice League (I read the origin backups in a fan-collected edition). If they've squandered the character he was becoming at the end of the origin story, that's a shame. I maintain that it would make a great movie in capable hands!
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Post by: Bea on May 13, 2014, 06:45:38 pm
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10259782_10152391350752243_1285102006020419608_n.jpg)

It looks... okay.
Makes me hope even more to see Affleck kick Superman's butt (I still can't believe I am hoping for this, but oh well...).
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Post by: DatKofGuy on May 13, 2014, 07:08:20 pm
Looks like they going to have those neck turning problems from the earlier movies. And my thats a big bat on your chest sir
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Post by: walt on May 13, 2014, 08:23:52 pm
Woah, Arkham Batman.

Also, let the #SadBatman 'shops begin

(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt305/cci_walt/Mobile%20Uploads/1400014548023_zps105da15a.jpg)
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt305/cci_walt/SadBat1_zps7c39a416.jpg)
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt305/cci_walt/SadBat2_zps44f41b50.jpg)
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt305/cci_walt/SadBat3_zps0b9c908d.jpg)
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Post by: Mechy on May 13, 2014, 11:17:57 pm
lol

He looks pretty good.
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Post by: Lord Kain on May 13, 2014, 11:26:32 pm
Reminds me of that a big and bulk batman design from the Dark Night Returns Comic
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 13, 2014, 11:58:59 pm
Makes me hope even more to see Affleck kick Superman's butt (I still can't believe I am hoping for this, but oh well...).
Stop hoping, don't let yourself get excited again, remember last time! D:

Woah, Arkham Batman.
Not really? Not really at all. :-\

Reminds me of that a big and bulk batman design from the Dark Night Returns Comic
Yeah, most definitely, especially with those short ears. But is the whole costume all black? That seems pretty dumb, hopefully it's just the lighting that makes it look that way? I don't know why they keep making the bat-symbol impossible to see, this is exactly what the yellow oval was for. >:[
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Post by: Bea on May 14, 2014, 12:36:01 am
Makes me hope even more to see Affleck kick Superman's butt (I still can't believe I am hoping for this, but oh well...).
Stop hoping, don't let yourself get excited again, remember last time! D:

I know! It is because of what happened last time that I am hoping for Affleck to kick that menace in blue overalls with a red cape butt! D:
But I won't be seeing this mess on the theatres. Nor will I buy the DVD/bluray of this thing.

I just want Affleck to kick that poor excuse of a not Superman butt. >:(
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Post by: SlySuavity on May 14, 2014, 12:37:05 am
Speaking of butts, Batman's got quite the butt-chin going on.

God, I don't think I'll unsee it.

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Post by: Sky79 on May 14, 2014, 12:54:53 am
(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10259782_10152391350752243_1285102006020419608_n.jpg)

It looks... okay.
Makes me hope even more to see Affleck kick Superman's butt (I still can't believe I am hoping for this, but oh well...).


(http://www.blearyboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/the-room-you-are-tearing-me-apart-lisa2.jpg)


F*** this movie
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 14, 2014, 12:57:20 am
I'm not looking forward to this movie at all, but the costume seems fine. :-\

I mean, it's nice to finally move away from overcomplicated plastic armor suits and go with something more traditional, at least.
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Post by: Nero D. on May 14, 2014, 01:39:09 am
batman and robin is still by far the worst designed movie by far


this suit is light years ahead of that one, and his frank miller inspired headpiece and symbol are dope, even tho this movie will has all the makings of a forced fart
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Post by: Sky79 on May 14, 2014, 04:49:51 am
Batman & Robin was also 17 years ago Nero.

This is worse, not because of the way it looks, but because they know better. But-
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Post by: Nero D. on May 14, 2014, 05:10:54 am
batman returns and batman were 22 and 25 years ago respectively

they had better designs than batman and robin, so age nor budget are relevant, its design choice
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 14, 2014, 05:22:15 am
What exactly is wrong with the new Batsuit? It what areas could it be made better?
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Post by: Speedpreacher on May 14, 2014, 05:24:06 am
I'm trying to figure out that myself. It looks fine! It doesn't even appear to be made out of basketballs like the Superman suit.
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 14, 2014, 05:28:20 am
I do think it needs much more deliniation between the grey of the suit and the black of the cowl, but I'm hoping that's just the lighting in the picture that makes them blend together so much.

It seems like he might have some New 52-esque seam lines, but hopefully that doesn't mean that he also has those stupid bat-shaped kneepads.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on May 14, 2014, 05:38:00 am
I'm just assuming it's the picture. There has to be some kind of noticeable contrast between the grey and the black on the suit if the bat symbol and the gloves aren't going to be armored up like the Nolan version.
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Post by: Nero D. on May 14, 2014, 07:30:48 am
here's a very well done colored edit by an artist named toyotter


(https://i.imgur.com/iepmLqX.jpg)
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Post by: SlySuavity on May 14, 2014, 09:55:41 am
And then suddenly there's this. :3 (https://twitter.com/Syncos2/status/466277163012878336/photo/1)
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 14, 2014, 10:13:46 am
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
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Post by: Sky79 on May 15, 2014, 01:26:25 am
What exactly is wrong with the new Batsuit? It what areas could it be made better?

OK, I know I'm in the minority on this (when am I not?)  It's not the batsuit, it's the whole package. As for the suit, it's silly, are we to believe he's really that buffed? No, it's padded more then my aunt's couch. Why the hell was it black and white? Are they trying to be dramatic? Like the photo was secretly taken in the 50's? Oh please. The major reaction I'm reading online (no not just here) is that the suit is "OK", Thats the best they can do? Really? How the hell is this suppose to be stealth, bullet proof, ninja inspired or remotely scary? He's suppose to scare criminals too, remember? Knowing what it's function is, do you really think this is what it would look like? of course not, This looks stupid.

Edit:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

What this photo tells me is what I've feared. We're not getting an original story here, just a bastardized/Rehash of the DKR story, the suit confirms that.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on May 15, 2014, 06:41:32 am
And in other news


I like the costume, dont see why fanboys are bitching that they want the skintight comics costume, that would just be stupid in Arrow-verse.
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Post by: Sky79 on May 15, 2014, 07:07:39 am
Yo genius, no one said they wanted to see a skintight costume.

As you post a promo of Flash in a skintight costume, defending a batsuit that implies it's skintight.
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Post by: Nero D. on May 15, 2014, 07:17:18 am
actually they did, a lot, everybody has been talking/bitching about flash's costume (on fb and everywhere else not here) from the shade of red used, to the fucking fabric holy shit, and of course the tightness

if anything they couldve did something with the jay garrick fit (minus that particular hat, for aesthetic purposes) to fit with the modern setting of the arrowverse; long sleeve red shirt, blue jeans, some concealing type of headwear, it couldve worked, maybe
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Post by: Sky79 on May 15, 2014, 07:26:10 am
I was talking about the batsuit Nero, not Flash. But, Hmmmm *looks closer* Chest piece is a bit 'rubbery', can't really see much detail from this.

It's 'meh', I'll take it though. The FX sucks, but thats what you get with the WB/CW. Remember this? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-ih_ez22Vk)

Edit:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 15, 2014, 08:36:50 am
The Flash costume is, I dunno, weird looking. It doesn't seem like it totally fits into Arrow's aesthetic and at the same time looks too drab and "realistic" to be a fun, comic booky outfit. And then there's the puzzling choices that made that would have no effect on the whole "make it fit into the Arrowverse" part, like making the inside of the Flash logo bright red, or the lighting bolt trim that looks so tacky, the lines on the headpiece. I'm just not feeling it.

Why the hell was it black and white? Are they trying to be dramatic?
Pretty much. It's a perfect distillation of Zack Snyder: a director perfectly suited to low brow, mindless spectacle trying to make his art smarter than he's actually capable of doing. A director who should've stuck to making more stuff like his Dawn of the Dead remake than his faithful but ultimately soulless Watchmen (still , not a terrible movie, just... I dunno) or the wretched Man of Steel.

Thats the best they can do? Really? How the hell is this suppose to be stealth, bullet proof, ninja inspired or remotely scary? He's suppose to scare criminals too, remember? Knowing what it's function is, do you really think this is what it would look like? of course not, This looks stupid.
I mean, it just looks mostly like a live action version of the DKR look. It's not my favorite version of the costume (always hated those tiny ears, and the oval is so much better than the non-oval'd batsymbol, and the capsule is great pouches are boring), but it doesn't really have any giant glaring issues, like, say, the MoS Superman outfit does. :-\

What this photo tells me is what I've feared. We're not getting an original story here, just a bastardized/Rehash of the DKR story, the suit confirms that.
Just another piece of evidence in a long list of them, really. TDKR is the archetypical Batman vs. Superman fight, and nearly every fight after has tried, desperately and terribly, to recapture it with none of the nuance, missing the entire point of it all. So it's not really surprising that from the first reveal of the movie's existence they quoted a line from that fight, and kept talking about how they're gonna be influenced by TDKR, and so on.

I'm just so goddamn sick of Batman beating up Superman because he's the coolest and Superman is just so unrealistic and hard to relate to man, prep time. It's so boring. Why can't Batman and Superman be friends again? :(
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Post by: Titiln on May 15, 2014, 08:40:42 am
Yo genius, no one said they wanted to see a skintight costume.
yo """""""genius""""""  i'm pretty sure the guy that posted a flash video is talking about the flash's costume
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Post by: Bea on May 15, 2014, 12:05:33 pm
I'm just so goddamn sick of Batman beating up Superman because he's the coolest and Superman is just so unrealistic and hard to relate to man, prep time. It's so boring. Why can't Batman and Superman be friends again? :(

You and me both, brother. :(
I miss the days when Supes and Bats were the best super friends out there instead of always being at each others throat.
But that abomination of MOS "Superman" deserves no one to be friends of his.

Regarding that Bat suit, I hope they throw some blue cape and gloves there because that would remind me greatly of a bigger, better Batman.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5ha0l_MhlDw/T-aS0NZVd3I/AAAAAAAACQ4/p4U14jSu3sE/s400/batusi.jpg)

Affleck looks pretty "big" there for the part. ;P
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Post by: Nero D. on May 15, 2014, 05:27:34 pm
there's also the fact that batman can't beat superman, and krypton it'd is his only advantage...but laser eyes

also, the internet is the reason you hate batman, they gassed him up so much that he's intolerable because of his memetic badassery; same applies to deadpool, who only became recently popular
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Post by: DatKofGuy on May 15, 2014, 10:03:05 pm
Yo genius, no one said they wanted to see a skintight costume.

As you post a promo of Flash in a skintight costume, defending a batsuit that implies it's skintight.
Yo genius. Was talking about the flash vid... speaking of which... extended trailer
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Post by: AerosMugen on May 15, 2014, 10:47:21 pm
That looks cool.
Damn, now I want ot watch Arrow.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on May 15, 2014, 10:48:42 pm
Why are you not watching Arrow, it's probably one of the best shows on tv
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Post by: Byakko on May 15, 2014, 10:55:06 pm
Eeeehh... ? The whole "I'm not a hero" "just a guy struck by lightning" old school teenage angst shit makes me take a step back. Thankfully it seems to be only the first few episodes at most, so I hope it'll get past that quickly (the teaser from the Arrow finale was much better). It's getting trigger-happy fast with "meta-humans" "big boom gave random powers to many people, here's some science words to back it up" too, which also sounds quite shitty.
"He was hit by lightning !" "how is he still alive ?" lady how the fuck did you become a medic, it's rare but not unheard of.

Arrow is great, don't fuck this up.
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Post by: DatKofGuy on May 15, 2014, 10:57:09 pm
I also like the cool nod to the elseworlds costume with that breather mask
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 15, 2014, 11:48:44 pm
I cannot express my hate for this idiotic Geoff Johns "oh no my mom was murdered" backstory for Barry. It's just so dumb and pointless and oh my god they're doing the Johnsian "I'm not fast enough" shit for pre-powered Barry.

Also Green Arrow telling him that the lightning bolt chose him is so goddamn stupid/hilarious. It's a bolt of lightning, dude!

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

also, the internet is the reason you hate batman, they gassed him up so much that he's intolerable because of his memetic badassery; same applies to deadpool, who only became recently popular
Yep, it's why I threw in the "prep time" in that rant, but bad writers deserve a lot of the blame there too. They just transplanted TDKR Batman's personality into present-day Batman, so he's a huge douchebag to everyone while missing the point entirely that TDKR is like that because he's old and bitter and stuff.
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Post by: Bea on May 16, 2014, 12:44:21 am
That trailer for the man who can't get a date is cool. I like it.
It is miles better than what DC is putting on the silver screen.

And Batman can "definitely defeat" Superman.
He just need Superman to be hit by a nuclear warhead, to be stuck with a kryptonite arrow and to be pulling his punches to not hurt his old pal Batman.
See? "Too easy". ;P

I understand the importance of TDKR, but I can't say I am a fan of the story.
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Post by: Iced on May 16, 2014, 12:47:59 am
..you guys realize that the ending of the movie is superman about to break batman neck and then stopping and starting to cry, as batman stands over him and tells him he plotted this to see how far superman was going to go, and that now he trusts him to be really human.
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 16, 2014, 12:50:57 am
You shut your stupid face.

And Batman can "definitely defeat" Superman.
He just need Superman to be hit by a nuclear warhead, to be stuck with a kryptonite arrow and to be pulling his punches to not hurt his old pal Batman.
See? "Too easy". ;P
Even Miller himself seemed to miss that point when he wrote The Dark Knight Strikes Again, and had Batman easily crush Superman.

I understand the importance of TDKR, but I can't say I am a fan of the story.
Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan either. I think it's really well written and stuff, but it just sorta leaves me cold for some reason.
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Post by: Sky79 on May 16, 2014, 01:12:37 am
What people miss in TDKR, is that he wasn't trying to 'beat' Superman, he put on a show for the cameras via sups public image, to escape the public eye, till the anesthetic he injected himself with made him 'seemingly' die of heart failure. The morrons wanted a Michael Bay throwdown of 'good and evil', he gave it to them.

He did worse then 'beat' Superman........he used him ;)
edit:
..you guys realize that the ending of the movie is superman about to break batman neck and then stopping and starting to cry, as batman stands over him and tells him he plotted this to see how far superman was going to go, and that now he trusts him to be really human.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

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Post by: Bastard Mami on May 16, 2014, 01:16:28 am
..you guys realize that the ending of the movie is superman about to break batman neck and then stopping and starting to cry, as batman stands over him and tells him he plotted this to see how far superman was going to go, and that now he trusts him to be really human.

and then they will make up as it will be secretly a gay propaganda movie.
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Post by: Byakko on May 16, 2014, 01:51:05 am
Regarding the backstory they chose for Flash :
Remember that Arrow started out with Oliver stranded on an island for 5 years and coming back slaughtering a bunch of businessmen just because they had their name on a list given by his dad (just before the dad shot himself).
I'm not really worried about the direction they'll eventually pick for the story. Plus, we already knew from the Arrow cameo of Barry that he was looking for his mother's murderer, so meh, we already knew they were going with that as soon as the character was introduced. Plus, the lesson they learned when doing a 180° in the middle of Arrow's season 1 doesn't make me too worried, the story was weird businessmen and modern and gritty and then it just completely changed. At this point, the dead mom just feels like the incentive, only there to start up the show (it's TV after all, like Oliver's dad, the character has to have something to make him start) and Zoom will only come up at the very end and it will be glorious John Barrowman.
What worries me is that they're going too far in that 180°, with all the free superpowers. Maybe they simply decided to go all out in the supernatural with the Rogues after introducing the Miracle drug in Arrow, but they could have kept just a little bit of the realism from Arrow. The tornado thing late in the trailer is classic Flash, and Weather Wizard and Captain Cold are obvious, but the level of emphasize they put on it, the "there are other people who gained powers !" line, it felt like there will be a bunch of supervillains all the time. Like Smallville.
I'm also conflicted about the massive teen angst tone of the trailer (muh mommy + muh normal guy life), knowing that the teaser at the end of Arrow showed the opposite (comedy tone, Barry super excited about his own feats and Oliver calling him a show-off).
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Post by: Sky79 on May 16, 2014, 02:06:46 am
Bringing in Prof Zoom is risky at best. You think this suit looks bad? Paint it yellow, see what happens.
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Post by: Byakko on May 16, 2014, 02:09:58 am
But we already know he'll be there, and in full yellow glory. We saw him.
(also personally I think the suit is acceptable)

(eh, at least, with Flash's character, it shouldn't turn into Raimi!Spiderman 3 weird emo despite the points that worry me, now it just needs to not turn into Smallville superpower bargain sale of the week, hopefully sticking to what they learned with Arrow's story might prevent that)
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Post by: Sky79 on May 16, 2014, 02:13:27 am
You kidding? We started out in smallville, we're moving toward Schumacherizem at this point.
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Post by: Mechy on May 16, 2014, 02:22:58 am
It looks pretty fun. Corny as hell, but when we live in times where superman gives a diddly squat about human life and Peter Parker is a douchebag teen vogue model, corny fun sci-fi hero might be just what we need.

I still need to watch arrow.
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Post by: Sky79 on May 16, 2014, 02:56:08 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_Ko4MvkGqw

 ¬_¬
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Post by: Jmorphman on May 16, 2014, 04:32:06 am
Sounds like he's talking only about the cinematic incarnations, and it's probably better he not really take much from those, because... jeez. Who wants another fucking landgrab scheme? Hackman and Spacey are amazing actors but they were incredibly ill-served by those movies.

But actually maybe checking out the comics would be good, and it doesn't sound like he's gonna do that either. >.>

Regarding the backstory they chose for Flash :
Remember that Arrow started out with Oliver stranded on an island for 5 years and coming back slaughtering a bunch of businessmen just because they had their name on a list given by his dad (just before the dad shot himself).
I'm not really worried about the direction they'll eventually pick for the story. Plus, we already knew from the Arrow cameo of Barry that he was looking for his mother's murderer, so meh, we already knew they were going with that as soon as the character was introduced.
I don't think it's a hurdle that can't be overcome, but it just strikes me as completely unnecessary to Barry's backstory, and was one of many things that really irked me when Johns brought Barry back. Not every character needs a tragic backstory but Johns just barreled through and jammed it in there.

Corny as hell, but when we live in times where superman gives a diddly squat about human life and Peter Parker is a douchebag teen vogue model, corny fun sci-fi hero might be just what we need.
Yeah, comic book movies need to embrace the camp and craziness of the actual comics more often. At least the MCU ones try and do that.
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Post by: Mechy on May 16, 2014, 10:34:32 am
Even the MCU tries to go more with a middle ground, but they just know how to fall back to the campiness when needed.
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Post by: Sky79 on May 17, 2014, 07:38:09 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M5-UE7ceZU

So, the stutter is real? Hmmm.
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Post by: Edtion on May 18, 2014, 09:52:37 am
The ONLY reference I can find for ANY of that to DC or even comics and possibly comic related things is he's suppose to be Lex Luthor for an untitled sequel to Man of Steel and he was in Zombieland.
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Post by: Sky79 on May 18, 2014, 11:37:00 pm
Never seen a single movie he's in, I know nothing about him other then, "He's playing Lex?!?* Rages*. It's nice to get some backstory on the guy.

Others likely feel the same.
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Post by: Speedpreacher on May 18, 2014, 11:51:03 pm
He does talk about Lex Luthor about 12 minutes into it (which would've been nice information to include by the way).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: SNT on May 19, 2014, 01:20:01 am
I always saw him as a more serious version of Michael Cera thanks to Zombieland, then he played this boyish douchebag in Now You See Me.  He needs to man up a bit if he expects to be taken seriously as Lex Luthor.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Iced on May 21, 2014, 12:38:47 pm
Kevin smith claims the suit is blue and grey.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Byakko on May 21, 2014, 01:45:00 pm
Gray and blue, gray and blue
The man from Gotham
Wore the gray and blue
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on May 21, 2014, 07:15:16 pm
I always saw him as a more serious version of Michael Cera thanks to Zombieland, then he played this boyish douchebag in Now You See Me.  He needs to man up a bit if he expects to be taken seriously as Lex Luthor.
Eh, even if he played Luthor exactly like his Zuckerberg it could work (not that he would, cause that wouldn't even be trying). Still think he's too young, though.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on May 21, 2014, 09:20:28 pm
Alright everbody shut up, the title for Man of Steel 2 just got announced, and it is... it sure is something

BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE (http://thedissolve.com/news/2299-batman-vs-superman-dawn-of-justice/)

yeah that's right, Dawn of Justice, Batman *V* Superman, not vs., not versus, not even Batman v. Superman like a court case, just an uppercase V for some reason. And also Superman gets second billing in his own sequel.

(http://cdn4.thedissolve.com/articles/2299/detail.d678b11d.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Mgbenz on May 21, 2014, 09:32:10 pm
Lol v. is only ever used in court cases. What a bunch of tards.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Jmorphman on May 21, 2014, 09:33:06 pm
It's so unbelievably pretentious and it's not even a lower case "v." with a period at the end, just a single "V", and god, Dawn of Justice is so fucking corny, I can't keep a straight face. XD
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: AerosMugen on May 21, 2014, 09:42:56 pm
The fact that it is the best name they could come up with is amazingly sad.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 21, 2014, 09:56:56 pm
Geez, are we sure that's not the name of the video game tie-in?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Script? We don't need no script.
Post by: GOH on May 21, 2014, 10:50:31 pm
Batman V Superman: Dawn of Another Shitty Day in the Life of DC Fans Everywhere
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on May 22, 2014, 02:44:53 am
Eh... I can't say I am surprised that the title is so bland and that Superman gets second billing on his own sequel.
It is DC we are talking about. They hate their fans, their IP and making money.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Roman55 on May 22, 2014, 02:48:16 am
Batman v Superman Batman v A bunch of DC superheroes thrown in so we can do a vain attempt at a movie verse oh and Supes is in this too somewhere even though this is supposed to be a sequel to his movie: Clusterfuck of Justice

Directed by a guy who was real excited to slap a body count on a movie about a man flying around in tights.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 22, 2014, 02:53:49 am
Written by a guy who thinks that believing Martian Manhunter should come from Mars means you're a nerd that needs to get laid.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on May 22, 2014, 02:56:12 am
It kills me so much that the two people in charge of DC movies for the foreseeable future are Snyder and Goyer, of all people.

Not that there aren't vast, vast underlying issues at play here, first and foremost DC's long held inferiority complex towards Marvel and the way they seem ashamed to be making superhero comic books at all.

Meanwhile, at Marvel, a movie about a gun-toting space raccoon and a talking tree teaming up with Chris Pratt's abs is coming out in a few months.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on May 22, 2014, 03:21:53 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordlol3_zps8542f330.png[/avatar]HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Every time!  Every damn time I think they can't possibly make this movie sound any worse, they manage to do it.  They are thwarting my expectations at every turn with new and innovate horribleness.  I love it.  :laugh3:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on May 22, 2014, 03:41:13 am
^ This and a bottle of Jack to wash away the pain.

Edit:
Meanwhile, at Marvel, a movie about a gun-toting space raccoon and a talking tree teaming up with Chris Pratt's abs is coming out in a few months.

Which will also star a meat-headed wrestler that can't even act worth a damn, and it still looks better then this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on May 22, 2014, 03:44:57 am
batman 5 superman eh

that doesn't make sense, are there 5 supermen, 5 batsmen or 5 ah fuck it


they're trying to hard to tie some kind of verse together too fast, it's uncomfortably pathetic; it's like dc accidentaly saw marvel's dick that one time they went skinny dipping and found out marvel was packing, or some shit
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on May 22, 2014, 03:45:54 am
Batman VVVVVV Superman: Before Midnight of Justice
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Foobs on May 22, 2014, 03:46:38 am
That's some remarkably consistent design work, the logo is every bit as bad as the title.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 22, 2014, 03:53:45 am
they're trying to hard to tie some kind of verse together too fast, it's uncomfortably pathetic; it's like dc accidentaly saw marvel's dick that one time they went skinny dipping and found out marvel was packing, or some shit

The problem has always been that Warner wants to build up to Justice League just like Marvel did to Avengers without realizing that the only reason Marvel did that IS BECAUSE NO ONE KNEW WHO THE FUCK THE AVENGERS WERE.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on May 22, 2014, 04:01:16 am
i know; cap, iron man falcon, hawkeye, black widow and thor were literally b team heroes in the eyes of the mainstream before their respective movies came out, i have friends that can vouch for that because their ignorance annoyed me and their convenient knowledge of the heroes upon the announcement of the films (merch and shit) annoyed me even more

can't wait to see how many people "know" who ant man is when it's publicly announced

back on topic, yea, but the verse thing is making marvel a lot of money and fans, that's all
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: SlySuavity on May 22, 2014, 04:05:18 am
They could have at least fixed the damn Bat symbol. >:(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on May 22, 2014, 04:17:28 am
The Bat symbol is pretty much just the TDKR one, though (which I've never been a fan of, because the oval is the best, why does DC hate the oval so much :()

The problem has always been that Warner wants to build up to Justice League just like Marvel did to Avengers without realizing that the only reason Marvel did that IS BECAUSE NO ONE KNEW WHO THE FUCK THE AVENGERS WERE.
They should be relying on the fact that everyone knows who Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman are, and start the first movie off with that, a Trinity movie. Maybe have Wondy's origin in that one because no one really knows what her deal is? Or they could just do quick montages of each hero, because boy I am sick to death of slow, rebooted origin stories. And then they could do one or two solo movies with Flash and whoever else would be in JL.

But instead ](to paraphrase Chris Sims) (https://twitter.com/theisb/) they're doing a movie about the last few pages of TDKR, featuring an old Batman (who we've never seen before) returning from retirement, forced to fight against his best friend (who he has not met before), featuring a bunch of other DC heroes in a desperate attempt to catch up to Marvel while avoiding all of the work.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on May 22, 2014, 12:32:19 pm
After what Goyer has said about Martian Manhunter and She Hulk, I am hoping for a major fan uproar that will cause him to be fired from that position. :|
It is the only way we can hope to see the heroes we love get at least a decent writer for their films.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on May 22, 2014, 01:48:23 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordlol2-2_zps0e706c91.png[/avatar](https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t31.0-8/10382555_4245997886263_1396643250973145263_o.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on May 22, 2014, 02:59:59 pm
spoiler alert: batman wins becausetheinternet

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GOH on May 22, 2014, 03:03:39 pm
Whoever wins

We lose

#avp #batvsup #wonderwho
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on May 22, 2014, 03:20:58 pm
ladies and gentlemen, your tag line for this masterpiece
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on May 22, 2014, 03:25:11 pm
I can't help but wonder how much of Gotham and Metropolis will be left standing after this film...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: SlySuavity on May 22, 2014, 07:22:57 pm
Considering Metropolis was left in shambles with millions dead from our beloved MoS, I imagine Gotham's the only worthwhile candidate for wholesale destruction. I'm sure Snyder's Batman won't mind.

If you could call him that. :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on May 22, 2014, 09:32:19 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/A80ic2e.jpg)

lol
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: SlySuavity on May 23, 2014, 12:11:11 am
That looks surprisingly worse. Staaaahp. ;~;
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on May 23, 2014, 12:15:23 am
What looks worse, the original logo, or the one on the bottom? The one on the bottom is an extrapolation of what the original looked like before they applied a bunch of filters to it because bright colors are dumb and unrealistic.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on May 23, 2014, 01:51:34 am
After what Goyer has said about Martian Manhunter and She Hulk, I am hoping for a major fan uproar that will cause him to be fired from that position. :|
He has a checkered past when it comes to writing, hit or miss at best, but the 90's cartoon overdid her sexuality (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4mtLebZwXs) (6:30) .....a lot.

Don't get me me wrong, Goyer's an ungrateful bastard for saying that. But, if that was the first I'd ever heard of SheHulk, I'd think the same thing.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on May 23, 2014, 02:12:09 am
Since when do we take cartoons into account for an accurate portrayal of any character ?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on May 23, 2014, 02:27:05 am
this cartoon would be a better representation of her character portrayal, but seriously a character with as many book runs as she hulk isnt defined by what goyer says.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1nAuJm9a7o

even on her first appearance she wasnt designed as just a big sex thing. Goyer is dumb.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/comic-riffs/wp/2014/05/21/she-hulk-co-creator-stan-lee-weighs-in-on-david-goyer-debate-only-a-nut-would-even-think-of-that/



I would be more worried that the guy DC wants behind JLA thinks that people that know who Martian Manhunter is are loser virgins, tho. This is the guy they choose to represent their heros.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on May 23, 2014, 02:33:51 am
Since when do we take cartoons into account for an accurate portrayal of any character ?
I'd take the DCAU Batman and Superman over anything written by Goyer! :P

... and over a great deal of actual Batman and Superman comics, even.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on May 23, 2014, 02:36:02 am
^what he said

goyer is a fucking tool who don't know shit about shit, but he's living the dream, tool


also (ir)relevant

(https://i.imgur.com/87Bata9.jpg)

pretty much
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on May 23, 2014, 02:50:37 am
Since when do we take cartoons into account for an accurate portrayal of any character ?
I'd take the DCAU Batman and Superman over anything written by Goyer! :P

... and over a great deal of actual Batman and Superman comics, even.

This, so much this.
And I still think Goyer needs to be kicked out of his job after what he said on that podcast. His comments about She Hulk and Martian Manhunter show that he has no place writing anything about super heroes.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on May 23, 2014, 04:17:57 am
Agreed

Think about this, if you walk into a job interview, openly disrespect the company, the product and the customers who buy it, would you get the job? Hell no.

This speaks more of DC's management style then anything else. It'll make money in the short term, but later it'll run the company into the ground.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on May 24, 2014, 02:16:32 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk5I5oxne3A

I hope he's right about this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on May 26, 2014, 09:28:33 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/aplEimX.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: QuickFist on May 26, 2014, 10:02:30 pm
v Flash is my favourite
Need for Speed lol
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on May 26, 2014, 11:21:16 pm
A passable idea, but those superhero logos need more work. Wonder Woman's logo isn't two W's it's obviously some weird looking Amazonian symbol for 'warrior'. And why would the Atlantian symbol for 'king' look like an A. Let's not even get into how screwed up the Oan symbol for 'will' and Ancient Egyptian symbol for 'lightning' are.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bastard Mami on May 27, 2014, 12:12:03 am
can't wait for batman vs jackman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on May 27, 2014, 02:41:22 am
electric boogaloo obviously the best
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on May 27, 2014, 03:48:47 am
Gentlemen, it's time for a little Cave Talk. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJZKBk9Oioc)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Edtion on May 27, 2014, 01:47:46 pm
Gentlemen, it's time for a little Cave Talk. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJZKBk9Oioc)
(http://edtion.elementfx.com/XD)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on May 27, 2014, 01:50:23 pm
fff, am i the only one bothered that casuals keep mixing up telepathy with telekinesis?

earlier this week there was a sketch about xavier using his mind powers to be able to move everything about except him and now nightwing is saying Aquaman has telekinesis
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on May 27, 2014, 07:17:21 pm
I kinda doubt the people who did this were casuals.

Because only dumb nerds think Batman can defeat everyone because preptime. >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on May 27, 2014, 11:08:50 pm
earlier this week there was a sketch about xavier using his mind powers to be able to move everything about except him and now nightwing is saying Aquaman has telekinesis

Reminds me of that line from one of the movies- Xavier: "I'm a psychic you know"-- NO YOU'RE NOT!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on May 27, 2014, 11:31:28 pm
... yes he is? Psychic covers a wide range of phenomena but generally either telepathy or telekinesis.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on May 28, 2014, 12:12:57 am
I've a Hungarian Ex who would stab you for saying that lol

The context of the conversation revolved around the Professor knowing a plan would work out beforehand. That said, he was referring to clairvoyance.

Telepithy is very different from being able to see the future.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on May 28, 2014, 12:17:05 am
That's what we call a joke.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on May 28, 2014, 12:19:29 am
So was the movie :D
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on May 28, 2014, 12:24:56 am
That still-fondly remembered movie that created the modern superhero movie boom sure is a joke. Ha ha ha.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bastard Mami on May 28, 2014, 12:40:55 am
I've a Hungarian Ex who would stab you for saying that lol

The context of the conversation revolved around the Professor knowing a plan would work out beforehand. That said, he was referring to clairvoyance.

Telepithy is very different from being able to see the future.

I feel telepithy for you when you get in those arguments.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 05, 2014, 03:31:34 am
You know, 'The Shadow' is cannon in pre-52 Gotham, he once saved young Bruce Wayne's life, heck, 'The Gray Ghost' was based on 'The Shadow'. If DC had the b@lls, you'd have a Shadow cameo, in the new Gotham TV show.

It would be awesome.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on June 05, 2014, 06:21:03 am
"lol who the fuck are shadow and grey ghost, fake ass batman wannabe's" - dc comics
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 13, 2014, 08:26:39 pm
Here is a purported list of the movies DC is planning for the next 5 years: (http://www.avclub.com/article/here-are-superhero-movies-warner-bros-supposedly-h-205762)

May 2016 – Batman V Superman
: Sunset of Lawfulness
July 2016 – Shazam

Xmas 2016 – Sandman

May 2017 – Justice League

July 2017 – Wonder Woman

Xmas 2017 – Flash and Green Lantern team-up

May 2018 – Man Of Steel 2

this is all rumors of course, but apparently will be confirmed at Comic-Con.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 13, 2014, 09:01:21 pm
Flash W Green Lantern: Sweltering Noon of Justice
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Post by: Speedpreacher on June 15, 2014, 01:34:04 am
I was waiting for our crack news team to report this, but...

Jason Momoa, best known for roles that don't require much talking is rumored to be playing Aquaman, whose most famous power is to talk to things. (http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/jason-momoa-will-play-aquaman-in-dawn-of-justice-and-we-know-how-it-will-happen)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on June 15, 2014, 02:03:34 am
they got Namor to play Aqualamezor.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 15, 2014, 02:08:41 am
I think Namor should be more lithe than him, though.

I was waiting for our crack news team to report this, but...

Jason Momoa, best known for roles that don't require much talking is rumored to be playing Aquaman, whose most famous power is to talk to things. (http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/jason-momoa-will-play-aquaman-in-dawn-of-justice-and-we-know-how-it-will-happen)
You take that back, Aquaman is a great supehero and Geoff Johns proved it in his Aquaman book where he had Aquaman continually assaulted by people who hate Aquaman to show how awesome they are, seriously you guys, stop making fun of him.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 15, 2014, 04:02:54 am
'Game of Thrones' star says questions are getting 'annoying'
 (http://www.hitfix.com/news/jason-momoa-is-so-over-these-batman-v-superman-rumors-stop-asking-mel)

 :laugh3:

Edit:
It just keeps getting worse-

“I think it started when people said ‘What superhero would you play?’ And I’d say Batman and Superman, they’d be awesome together,” he said. “Then people were like, ‘He’s in 'Batman vs. Superman'!’ I’m like, I really like Lobo. ‘HE’S LOBO!!’ And then some asshole was like ‘He’s Aquaman!’”
“And I’m like — what did you just call me?” he continued. “Where the fuck do you pull out Aquaman? Seriously… And then it shows up on the Internet. Not that it’s a bad rumor.”


This guy's an ass.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 17, 2014, 08:57:18 pm
Darkseid is rumored to be the villain of the Justice League movie (not Batman V Superman: Daybreak of Crimejustice). (http://comicsalliance.com/darkseid-justice-league-movie-dc-comics-warner-bros-rumo/) This will allow DC to put out their craggy, philosophical evil space god one year before Thanos will face the Avengers (the latter is speculation but they're gearing up Thanos in GotG so it lines up). And the best part is is that because the JL movie is likely to be based on that execrable opening arc of New 52 JL. Justice League: War, we'll end up getting a Darkseid who acts nothing like Darkseid and is just a generic space conqueror who happens to share the name of the God that the Devil prays to. Not like there are any other big DC villains that would make sense, no sir, better to blow your load with the biggest and baddest in the first movie. And do it shittily. Darkseid deserves better. Darkseid is.

also from that same article, Kevin Smith has said on one of his podcasts that the rumored movie line up is legit. So, fun.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on June 17, 2014, 09:01:12 pm
Should have gone with Mongul. He is diabolical as all balls and can go mano a mano with Supes. Blowing the wad with big names on the first movie just makes it so that the rest can end up feeling scaled down significantly.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on June 17, 2014, 09:15:08 pm
Darkseid as the very fist villain and basing it on Justice League War are both very bad ideas, yes.
Darkseid deserves much better than that.

Mongul, the league of doom, Brainiac would all be better picks, and all of those could pose as very credible threats that would require the full league to deal with.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 17, 2014, 09:40:55 pm
Starro would be my choice. You keep the idea that Starro brings this team together, for one - even Avengers keeps Loki as the main villain. You can keep the alien conqueror and his numerous drones and keep a better narrative for Darkseid. And could you imagine the reveal when they're studying one of the aliens and Flash and Batman realize the weird thing on its face is sentient seconds before it jumps off and hits Superman?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 17, 2014, 09:51:35 pm
I was gonna say Starro too.

Either that or Amazo. Or even Despero or White Martians, maybe?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on June 17, 2014, 10:01:05 pm
Starro would be a great pick. Totally forgot about him.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 17, 2014, 10:02:53 pm
I was going to say White Martians but backed off on that. First, who knows if we're even getting a Green Martian. Second, the best part of that story is when Batman and Superman come to that realization at the same points that the audience does (well most of them anyway. I knew jack about MM when that story came out) and you've only got that if you've established J'onn already.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 17, 2014, 10:03:40 pm
Part of me saying White Martians is me saying they should do a Martian Manhunter movie! Screw Goyer and his genetically engineered Manhunter who is not from Mars who isn't in any of the movies crap! >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 17, 2014, 10:08:43 pm
It would also give them a chance to use this line from Blue Beetle:
"She's a Martian? So What? [...] Oh, excuse me, a White Martian. Didn't know I was supposed to get all racial about it.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GOH on June 18, 2014, 10:10:48 am
martian wiggers
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 19, 2014, 12:00:10 am
Always tryin ta keep da green man down  :Mr-T:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 20, 2014, 03:32:56 am
Lex Luthor will have hair in Batman V Superman: Rise of League (http://batman-news.com/2014/06/17/exclusive-lex-luthors-hairstyle-in-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-revealed/). But not anything like Jesse Eisenberg's usual look, instead he apparently has slightly longer, loose and wavy dirty-blonde hair? For some reason? Why dye his hair in the first place if you're not gonna dye it red?

also yeah that basically means he'll lose his hair at the end of the movie in a hackneyed "hey look, we're teasing things just like Marvel does" and just, oy.

Also, unsuprisingly, Warner wants to make a solo Batman movie. (http://www.avclub.com/article/warner-bros-wants-make-another-solo-batman-movie-a-206025) At least it seems like they're waiting until 2019?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 20, 2014, 08:27:23 am
DOUBLE POST MADNESS

apparently Max Lord and Martian Manhunter will be appearing in the Justice League movie (http://www.worldsfinestnews.com/#!Martian-Manhunter-Darkseid--Max-Lord-Rumored-for-Batman-v-Superman/c201x/16FBE53D-E40E-4498-B9B1-A28D79DC10D4), which is worrying, given Goyer's comments about the Manhunter. And also Max Lord? God, they're just gonna use him as an evil douchebag who mindcontrols Superman into fighting Batman or something, just like his turn to evil around Infinite Crisis, right? Why did DC have to make sure every aspect of the Justice League International era was razed to the ground? :(

also more confirmation on Lex having long lustrious blonde hair in Bruce Wayne V Clark Kent: Ace Attorney, described as being like a surfer. (http://comicbook.com/blog/2014/06/18/exclusive-batman-vs-superman-to-include-lex-luthor-s-assistant-m/) Also Tao Okamoto (seen most recently in The Wolverine) is playing his assistant, who is named Mercy. Probably the movie's version of Mercy Graves, Luthor's kickass bodyguard/personal assistant. But they've got some Japanese lady playing her, instead of a white lady! Oh my heavens! Fetch my fainting couch for this is truly vile!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Roman55 on June 20, 2014, 05:21:49 pm
Hey now some people aren't dumb bigots who moan when a character gets a race lift. They're also sometimes just really extreme comic fans who moan because they want everything exactly as they are in the comics (as impossible as that could be in plenty of cases).

I will faint for what they might do to our possibly non-Martian Manhunter :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on June 20, 2014, 08:54:11 pm
fuck, how many fucking people are they gonna stuff in this movie holy shit, watch hugo strange make it in, fucking miley cyrus as harley Quinn or some shit, god they really have some type of complex
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 22, 2014, 07:18:48 am
Daniel Radcliffe is interested in playing Robin. (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/daniel-radcliffe-wants-to-play-robin-1201239174/)

I'm down with this if it means they can get Emma Watson as Batgirl
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on June 25, 2014, 06:33:51 am
There's really no where else to discuss this but, the flash pilot has been leaked. I haven't seen it yet, just thought I'd mention it in case anyone decided to go looking for it and watching it and telling us all about it, with spoiler tags obviously :3
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 25, 2014, 02:08:31 pm
well... it had a way better production value and fx than that wonder woman pilot.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 26, 2014, 01:52:06 am
Not a fair comparison, the wonder woman pilot, was an unfinished work.

As for Flash,-
Spoiler: consider this a preemptive strike (click to see content)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on June 26, 2014, 05:47:48 am
fortunately, flash is supposed to be kinda lanky like that because of superhuman metabolism to go with his super speed, same for pietro,

/realist] also he's a model or some shit and he most likely won't do such a drastic body change for an ongoing series /realist

only reason they're even that buff in the comics is cuz everyone is buff in all comics except spiderman, sometimes
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 26, 2014, 07:08:25 am
Yeah I dunno about the 90s series costume.  Those moulded muscles are just... so silly. With Batman they blend in well because it's so dark, but it just looks too goofy on a bright red backdrop. And it doesn't fit Barry's character either (Flashes have runners bodys!)

fuck, how many fucking people are they gonna stuff in this movie holy shit, watch hugo strange make it in, fucking miley cyrus as harley Quinn or some shit, god they really have some type of complex
The article headline seems to be mistaken; Maxwell Lord and Manhunter seem to be for the Justice League movie proper (hence the "attached" status for Cavill and Gadot, which wouldn't make sense for a movie that's currently filming)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 26, 2014, 08:04:37 am
Not a fair comparison, the wonder woman pilot, was an unfinished work.
FYI, this pilot was unfinished as well... they just put a lot more effort into it.

(http://i.imgur.com/AIpNR6y.jpg)
The fuck is Ivy Pepper? I mean everyone else kept their names, why not keep Pamela Isley?
I wasnt too hyped about Gotham, and now this. Please tell me they arent going all Smallville on this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 26, 2014, 08:13:18 am
Well obviously Ivy Pepper is a much less silly name than Pamela Isley. :I

and yeah this has Smallville all over it, the showrunner said the series will end with Batman putting on the cape and cowl, just like Smallville. Eugh.

(sidenote: I reread the second Gotham Central TPD recently, the one with the Joker's sniper spree and the Mad Hatter/Harvey Bullock cold case arcs, goddamn this book was such a fucking masterpiece, why the fuckity fuck aren't we getting that)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on June 26, 2014, 10:21:06 am
Flash pilot = Cliché City. Also they went a little crazy in the supernatural, I'm hoping this was just the introduction and it'll calm down a bit like Arrow. I thought the trailer would make up a whole introduction arc, but it was all the first episode.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 27, 2014, 02:18:32 am
Yeah I dunno about the 90s series costume.  Those moulded muscles are just... so silly.

That wasn't simply molded muscle on John W Shipp .....that was him.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
edit:
Spoiler: Got a problem with that? (click to see content)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 27, 2014, 07:43:44 am
Actually no.. that suit was pretty much a body sculpt.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on June 27, 2014, 09:48:20 am
Also there's no reason or need for Flash to be so much buff.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 12:43:21 am
Actually no.. that suit was pretty much a body sculpt.
Never said it wasn't.
I said -
Quote
"That wasn't simply molded muscle on John W Shipp .....that was him."

Also there's no reason or need for Flash to be so much buff.

Shouldn't be skinny either, he should be like a chiseled Olympian statue, not peter parker.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on June 28, 2014, 01:19:38 am
Shouldn't be skinny either
Why is that ? There's no reason for him to have much muscle, beside the "fast metabolism" sort of thing. Outside of being Flash, he's not doing anything special, and he's not born with a unique body, his speed isn't even tied to his physique. He's much more Peter Parker than Captain America (physique transformed), Batman (insane training), or even someone like Green Arrow (a-few-notches-below-Batman crazy training). He's a normal guy outside of the speed force thing. He could be fat, he still would have his speed.

Actually no.. that suit was pretty much a body sculpt.
Never said it wasn't.
I said -
Quote
"That wasn't simply molded muscle on John W Shipp .....that was him."
That's... That is contradictory. what we see is not the actual body of the person through some thin clothing that might as well not be there, it's a sculpt.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 01:53:46 am
You're telling me "The Flash" shouldn't be build like an athlete in any way? really?

Again, it's more then just a sculpt, the guy trained. Plus, in that show, "fast metabolism" was in play, then and now. Like it or not, that means low body fat. This/the actor has to look the part, or at least look like he dose something other the play videogames all day. I'll take the built guy, who actually looks like he can 'do' something other then take groceries to my car, thanks.

Gal Gadot will be happy to know your expectations are so low-


Edit:
 DAMN IT!!!!!!! (http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/06/25/what-gal-gadot-s-wonder-woman-is-wearing-a-skirt-in-dawn-of-justice-1566519)

Quote
" we process it all. Then we kind of put that aside and work out what is right for our film"

F*** these guys, man. Should have just kept my mouth shut. It's like they can hear us.
 
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 28, 2014, 02:11:15 am
Hoplite skirt's fine and far from the worst change that could be made. That article was bordering on wanting Wonder Woman to be a different character entirely.

EDIT: Oh yeah, I guess I should weigh in on that other thing. There's a difference between a runner's build and a sprinter's build (my best bud is a health nut). I've always had a problem that the Flash is drawn sprinter's build because it's more muscular when he'd be realistically b a distance runner.

tl; dr Yeah, he should look more like Peter Parker.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on June 28, 2014, 02:14:24 am
Plus, in that show, "fast metabolism" was in play, then and now. Like it or not, that means low body fat
"Low body fat" does not necessarily mean "super buff".
DAMN IT!!!!!!! (http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/06/25/what-gal-gadot-s-wonder-woman-is-wearing-a-skirt-in-dawn-of-justice-1566519)
(http://www.carolastrickland.com/comics/wwcentral/costume_indices/images/cost_jan42.gif)
This is not new at all.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 02:27:43 am
This is not new at all.

That would be a good point, if that was what they were going for. We both know it isn't. The quote made it clear, they will do as they please.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

This is what the fans want, this is what you want too, they know that, and don't care. It's a slap in the face.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 28, 2014, 02:31:02 am
Yeah I'm not really sure what the problem is with an armored skirt. Or why doing literally nothing besides adding pants and taking all the color out is better than say, just spray-painting the Xena costume. Because that Xena outfit is pretty much perfect for Wonder Woman. And if we could also somehow get Lucy Lawless to play Wonder Woman? She's so great!!!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on June 28, 2014, 02:32:27 am
I was never a fan of the normal WW look, so I would like the skirt look more. But I do know it's iconic so I understand why people would be upset. The chancing of outfits to be more "realistic" (rubbish) is another dumb problem with DC's direction these days.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 28, 2014, 02:33:44 am
If Lucy Lawless isn't at least playing Hippolyta in the Wonder Woman movie then someone made a big mistake.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on June 28, 2014, 02:35:09 am
And if we could also somehow get Lucy Lawless to play Wonder Woman? She's so great!!!

Yes, pretty pretty please with sugar on top.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on June 28, 2014, 02:39:51 am
Wasn't there some talk a while back about how the Amazonian's will be made weaker for the movie?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on June 28, 2014, 02:41:10 am

Edit:
 DAMN IT!!!!!!! (http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/06/25/what-gal-gadot-s-wonder-woman-is-wearing-a-skirt-in-dawn-of-justice-1566519)

Quote
" we process it all. Then we kind of put that aside and work out what is right for our film"

F*** these guys, man. Should have just kept my mouth shut. It's like they can hear us.

i dont get any of the complaints they are complaining shes not in black pants and has a xena outfit.
a xena outfit is the best outcome, not black pants that remove any of her backstory.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 28, 2014, 02:42:19 am
Wasn't there some talk a while back about how the Amazonian's will be made weaker for the movie?

I though they were supposed to be the descendents of the Kryptonians from the moon or whatever.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 02:43:21 am
Wasn't there some talk a while back about how the Amazonian's will be made weaker for the movie?

No, they said they would be (sigh) Kryptonian offshoots.

And if we could also somehow get Lucy Lawless to play Wonder Woman? She's so great!!!

Yes, pretty pretty please with sugar on top.

She's almost 50 bro, hell no.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on June 28, 2014, 02:47:45 am
And if we could also somehow get Lucy Lawless to play Wonder Woman? She's so great!!!

Yes, pretty pretty please with sugar on top.

She's almost 50 bro, hell no.

Would still make a much, MUCH better Wonder Woman than Gal Gadot.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on June 28, 2014, 02:48:28 am
I though they were supposed to be the descendents of the Kryptonians from the moon or whatever.
No, they said they would be (sigh) Kryptonian offshoots.
That's even worse.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 28, 2014, 02:59:30 am
I think the Kryptonian thing has been debunked.

I mean, I hope to god that it was.

She's almost 50 bro, hell no.
Bullshit. Ben Affleck is about to turn 42; Lucy Lawless is only 4 years older than him. Why the fuck can't she be Wonder Woman?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 03:02:50 am

Would still make a much, MUCH better Wonder Woman than Gal Gadot.

Hell Bea, You're right. By the time their done with her, Lucy Lawless might as well play her, by the time they're done covering her up, all you'll see is her face, and Miss Lawless is better looking.  I'll bet they're taking her build (or lack there of) into account, while changing the iconic uniform.

Even they know she is physically incapable of playing the character.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on June 28, 2014, 03:14:40 am
hum
yall know that lawless was in spartacus right

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rbBvWgIGNqo/T2okgbiG2xI/AAAAAAAAANA/BCTLKONreoo/s1600/lucy-lawless-spartacus-vengeance-02.png)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ByZEp2k0euY/Usib3LzphBI/AAAAAAAAb7Q/HOoz4x7-al8/s1600/Lucy+Lawless-Xena.jpg)

(http://www.textual.com.br/img/banco/spartacus_vengeance_gallery_2012_10.jpg)

You are acting as if she was an old lady now or something
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 28, 2014, 03:21:47 am
The character she played in Spartacus frequently worried about her age and inability to have a baby due to it.

I miss Spartacus so much...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 03:23:46 am
Whomever will play WW will be playing her for 10+ years, not just this movie.

LL will be well into her 50's playing a 30 something year old, I think she is a decent choice, but only for BvS, not the future of the movie franchise. She's just not going to be 'fighting' shape J.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 28, 2014, 03:25:12 am
But Affleck is of course fine. Sure.

Say, how old is Robert Downey Jr.?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on June 28, 2014, 03:26:18 am
Lucy also have the advantage of being capable to act, along with being extremely beautiful.

Also, it is not like we're asking for Lynda Carter to reprise the role (would still be a better pick than Gal Gadot, though :P).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 28, 2014, 03:42:20 am
But Affleck is of course fine. Sure.


He's not, though. But they're billing him as 'old Batman'. Which means you're gonna get a bunch of crap that they stole from the DKR monologues even though he's not that old.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 28, 2014, 03:43:33 am
If they can do "old" Batman (because 42 is ancient), they can do "old" Wonder Woman too! >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 03:43:40 am
But Affleck is of course fine. Sure.
I never liked the choice of Affleck.


Say, how old is Robert Downey Jr.?

Damn your eyes J, now I have RDJ dressed as WW in my head!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on June 28, 2014, 03:46:42 am
The character she played in Spartacus frequently worried about her age and inability to have a baby due to it.

I miss Spartacus so much...

well it WAS ancient Rome. People didnt exactly expect women over 20 something to be in a child bearing age.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 28, 2014, 03:50:46 am
I never liked the choice of Affleck.
His age ain't really the problem with him, and regardless, they're both in their 40's: Lawless could still play Wonder Woman. Hollywood would of course never in a million years cast her, because women over 40 should be unseen save for very specific circumstances, and playing a superhero ain't one of them.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 03:53:58 am
Alrighty then-

Death Match
Lucy Lawless vs Lynda Carter
Winner plays Hippolyta


Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 28, 2014, 03:56:18 am
well it WAS ancient Rome. People didnt exactly expect women over 20 something to be in a child bearing age.

I just found it amusing that you brought it up as an example of her still being young enough to play the role when her 'advancing' age was one of the major character beats of Lucretia, that's all.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on June 28, 2014, 04:00:23 am
I just wonder... couldn't they have cast anyone else to play Wonder Woman?

I mean... I compare Hayden Christensen acting skills unfavourably to that of a rock, and I would still prefer to have him play Wonder Woman over Gal Gadot, even considering the minor detail of him being male.
That is just how much I hate the casting of Gal Gadot to the role.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 28, 2014, 04:05:03 am
I'm more apathetic than anything. There were certainly better choices and there were certainly worse choices. At least Gal Godot's non-white and has military training.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on June 28, 2014, 04:10:48 am
I prefer that rock you're comparing hayden's acting skill to over hayden himself, matter of fact where's that rock, let's get a new ww



i jest, but seriously, there are/were plenty if better actors to play ww, but they're obviously trying to force a certain standard look down our throats with SUPERMODEL GAL GADOT so you'll expect it, just like you expect slim fast growth spurt hugh jackman wolvie or ridiculous goatee rdj tony stark etc (don't forget inexplicable british accent thor when he should sound like skwisgaar)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on June 28, 2014, 04:14:24 am
Marvel Thor talks in fax-Shakspearian all the time, of course he'd have a British accent! :P

also Hayden Christensen is surprisingly good in Shattered Glass; he's not by any stretch of the imagination a great actor but he might not have been hated so much if someone besides George Lucas directed him in those movies (just look at all the actually good actors in those movies, nobody could rise above that direction and dialogue, Ewan McGregor kinda manages it though)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Titiln on June 28, 2014, 04:18:25 am
At least Gal Godot's non-white
what
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on June 28, 2014, 04:21:50 am
Marvel Thor talks in fax-Shakspearian all the time, of course he'd have a British accent! :P

yes yes and i love it, that one was more miscellaneous observation than anything


don't forget satam xmen storm, who talked like she was summoning the gods of fucking drama at all times

At least Gal Godot's non-white
what

i think he means not american (since she's israeli AND since americans are only white apparently) which is a weird statement because 1. she's still white, 2. lucy lawless is from new zealand iirc which would apparently make her not white since she's not american (white), and 3. white is not a race/ethnicity

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 28, 2014, 04:35:51 am
At least Gal Godot's non-white
what

She's less cracker than many other cracker choices that could've have been made, sheeeit!

*dons pimp hat and slide walks out*
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Titiln on June 28, 2014, 06:00:35 am
yea it was a really stupid thing to say all things considered
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 08:48:14 pm
There are choices for WW.....How about a Greek woman for starters.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on June 28, 2014, 08:53:24 pm
Wrong thread.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 28, 2014, 08:54:02 pm
Wrong thread.

Fixed
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Tyrant Belial on June 28, 2014, 10:39:53 pm
. . .What?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 30, 2014, 02:48:29 am
^posted news in the wrong thread




Catwoman A Needed Character In BATMAN V SUPERMAN  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mt7cc_VrL7M)

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 30, 2014, 09:36:34 am
There are choices for WW.....How about a Greek woman for starters.
Lol, you serious?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on June 30, 2014, 10:45:32 am
A Kryptonian actor would also be a much better choice for Superman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 30, 2014, 11:53:11 am
So keeping up the trend of The Flash, it seems a leak of Constantine has appeared online as well.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on June 30, 2014, 01:06:28 pm
There are choices for WW.....How about a Greek woman for starters.
Lol, you serious?

Yes, you know they're real right?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on June 30, 2014, 01:32:18 pm
I'm pretty sure that he doesn't believe Greek people don't exist but that he thinks it's a retarded suggestion.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on June 30, 2014, 06:19:38 pm
what DKDC said.
anyway.. constantine was actually quite good. ive been a fan of matt ryan since he did edward kenway.. but the constantine role really seems to fit him.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on June 30, 2014, 07:14:38 pm
That's good to hear, because it's the one I'm most worried about. Gotham's got The Batman juice behind it, so it'll get ratings based on that alone. Flash is on CW, so it's guaranteed 2 seasons if it gets even half of Arrow's ratings. But if Constantine doesn't do as good as Grimm NBC will cancel it in a snap, and if that happens you can say goodbye to any non-JL related properties on film/TV for a while.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 01, 2014, 12:04:32 am
I'm pretty sure that he doesn't believe Greek people don't exist but that he thinks it's a retarded suggestion.

Because?

Is it not the goal of good casting to get an actor/actress whom can portray the character as close as possible?

This is a bad thing in your eyes?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on July 01, 2014, 12:08:16 am
Because?
Probably because it actually is a retarded suggestion.
It's not a bad thing to try and cast an actor as close as possible to the role, but it's retarded to act like it's a terrible thing to NOT cast a Greek woman in the role of a Greek woman. There are other women out there who can probably play a Greek woman just fine - and it's not even a matter of accents, because I don't really think anyone ever cared about Wonder Woman's Greek accent in any version.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 01, 2014, 12:19:12 am
Is it not the goal of good casting to get an actor/actress whom can portray the character as close as possible?
Then by that logic I can't wait to see the martian actor they get to Martian Manhunter.

because I don't really think anyone ever cared about Wonder Woman's Greek accent in any version.
Plus the fact that Wonder Woman has never been heard with greek accent in the first place.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 01, 2014, 12:21:50 am
I want to  see a woman made of stone as wonderwoman,
we could get that chick from twilight
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 01, 2014, 12:25:38 am
Wonder Woman isn't even Greek. She's an Amazon. And they're pointedly NOT Greek. That's the entire point. They're barbarians, in the original sense of the word (i.e., not Greek, anyone not from Greece was a barbarian).

That doesn't mean she hasn't been portrayed as having Greek characteristics, of course, but it's not like it has ever been a definite, constant fact.

Is it not the goal of good casting to get an actor/actress whom can portray the character as close as possible?
Race is not even close to being the most important qualifier for this.

I want to  see a woman made of stone as wonderwoman,
we could get that chick from twilight
Clay, she's made of clay you halfwit. Go back to your Bendis comics you zombie >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 01, 2014, 12:43:12 am
Forgot to post this, from the Constantine pilot, easter eggs yo
(http://i57.tinypic.com/ae8bi9.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 01, 2014, 01:52:05 am
Is it not the goal of good casting to get an actor/actress whom can portray the character as close as possible?
Race is not even close to being the most important qualifier for this.

I find this Intriguing, what do you believe is the most important qualifier?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 01, 2014, 01:54:16 am
Their acting ability. How is that even a contest.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 01, 2014, 02:00:01 am
Forgot to post this, from the Constantine pilot, easter eggs yo

Cool stuff

I want to  see a woman made of stone as wonderwoman,
we could get that chick from twilight
Clay, she's made of clay you halfwit. Go back to your Bendis comics you zombie >:[

She's a daughter of Zeus now. And by Zeus I mean Lor Dzu-S of Krypton because I don't trust that Goyer isn't making her descended from Krypton because he's a HACK
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 01, 2014, 02:19:47 am
She's a daughter of Zeus now. And by Zeus I mean Lor Dzu-S of Krypton because I don't trust that Goyer isn't making her descended from Krypton because he's a HACK

I can feeeeeel your anger young Skywalker.

Their acting ability. How is that even a contest.

The ability to act is the basic need here J. BUT it's not the most important.  Case in point, George Clooney, Oscar winner.......$hit Batman. 

By your logic, BM&R should've been great right?
 
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 01, 2014, 02:27:24 am
batman and robin being bad had nothing to do with the actors inability to act, you cant act when there isnt a script.
Afleck has nothing on him that makes him "bad" for the part of batman, there is nothing about him, body or face that goes "yo i cant be batman holmes."


considering the amazons were barbarians in the eyes of the greek I wouldnt mind them being Black.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 01, 2014, 02:40:30 am
That's right Iced, very true.

So, what is to the most important thing to look for in an actress playing WW?

And no DKDC, it's not her boobs.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 01, 2014, 02:42:37 am
Yes. The reason Batman & Robin sucked was because... George Clooney had grey hair? Sure. ::)

Their ability to act is absolutely the most important qualifier for being cast in a movie. How the fuck could it not be.

Of course, it's not the only factor, but it's easily the most important. One still needs to be able to work well with the other actors, have chemistry with them, etc. And while race is the least important qualifier, it still can be a qualifier (you would not, for instance, want to cast Michael Fassbender in the Solomon Northup role in 12 Years A Slave, for instance). It all depends on the role. For some roles, the race doesn't really matter, and to others it does. So too with age, gender, physical characteristics, and what have you. Some roles need to be played by an old man, and some by a young woman, but the most important thing they need to bring is the ability to act well.

And Clooney could've knocked the role of Batman out of the park, if he was given an actually good script and given competent direction. He seems like he'd be best doing a more lighthearted Batman, though. Oooh, imagine a Coen Brothers Batman movie: O Batman Where Art Thou? !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 01, 2014, 02:46:00 am
wait, shit, should it have been O Joker Where Art Thou? instead?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 01, 2014, 02:47:15 am
IIIIIIIII am the MAAAAAAAN of constant VENGEANCE
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 01, 2014, 02:55:09 am
Of course, it's not the only factor, but it's easily the most important. One still needs to be able to work well with the other actors, have chemistry with them, etc. And while race is the least important qualifier, it still can be a qualifier (you would not, for instance, want to cast Michael Fassbender in the Solomon Northup role in 12 Years A Slave, for instance). It all depends on the role. For some roles, the race doesn't really matter, and to others it does. So too with age, gender, physical characteristics, and what have you. Some roles need to be played by an old man, and some by a young woman, but the most important thing they need to bring is the ability to act well.

Again, acting well is a given for most any great movie.......I'm talking about WW specifically.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 01, 2014, 03:04:21 am
Well that's a different question that ninja'd my post! >:[

anyway yeah Wonder Woman should ideally be statuesque (this is a pun because of her origin, kind of?), I think. The actor needs to radiate warmth and compassion with just a look, but at the same time be able to stare you down and make you piss your pants. Wonder Woman should come off as expert warrior and ambassador of peace all at once. It's a pretty hefty role, I would think.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on July 01, 2014, 03:05:26 am
this is a stupid discussion on the basis that ww is white and not a minority where this discussion would be relevant, so the answer to that question is...a white woman, muscles optional(not required because SUPERMODEL GAL GADOT)





i mean this ain't the last air bender where they took an all asian cast and made everyone white except the bad guys who were made darker southeast asians for some fucking reason when they were clearly based off the japanese
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 01, 2014, 03:17:56 am
So anyway he's some fucking shit about this movie that deals with Wonder Woman's costume and Lex's motivation and SPOILERS

Exclusive Wonder Woman Scoop - Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZvlGrqLbV0#t=170)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 01, 2014, 03:40:11 am
She needs to be a skilled actress: Basic
Physically capable of portraying her: You have wiggle room there.
On screen chemistry with the other actors: A bonus   

But, there needs to be a passion for the character in the actor for the roll they're playing.


Edit:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 01, 2014, 04:16:30 am
A bonus? But that's nuts, you need the actors to be able to, you know, actually act together and not just deliver monologues to each other. Avengers would just not work at all without the chemistry between all the team members. :-\
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 01, 2014, 05:40:59 am
And miss Gadot will have that, because she's just like most of this cast, she doesn't give two $hits about the characters, it's a paycheck.

The only ones I'm seeing any excitement about playing their roll is Affleck and Cavil. Gina Carano  (http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/04/29/gina-carano-talks-wonder-woman-and-gal-gadot) would have been perfect, she's loved WW since she was a little girl,she's in fighting shape, and is in a real relationship with the actor playing Superman......Now there's some on screen chemistry for ya.

Edit:
“I think people have their own idea, but I always like the underdog, I’m always rooting for the underdog. If the world says you can’t do something, I couldn’t care less because that’s not how anybody should live their lives.”--Gina Carano

Now that's a Wonder Woman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 01, 2014, 05:51:18 am
I'm really not convinced that there will be any chemistry between any of the leads of Baman V Piderman: Dawn of Pumkin, not least because the complete and utter lack of anything even remotely close to chemistry between Lois and Superman in the last movie. Their stance on whether they give a shit about the character or not is not really a factor (and Affleck at least reads to me like he's super excited about being Batman)

Gina Carano is astounding at fight scenes and has great physicality but really she's not that great of an actress, verbal-wise. It's just not one of her strengths, and I think Wonder Woman requires it; I don't think it would've been a good idea to cast her. Indeed, she was dubbed over in Haywire, and that entire movie is structured to reduce the amount of verbal acting she had to do. It's like Ray Park; dude is great at crazy stunts and shit but please don't make him start talking or you'll wind up with... uh... (http://content9.flixster.com/photo/12/26/51/12265151_ori.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on July 01, 2014, 09:36:09 am
So, what is to the most important thing to look for in an actress playing WW?

And no DKDC, it's not her boobs.
Why do you say that

I was totally gonna say that :(


Because it's a stupid question, and it deserves a stupid answer
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 01, 2014, 10:52:25 pm
with... uh... (http://content9.flixster.com/photo/12/26/51/12265151_ori.jpg)

That movie never happened! I refuse to acknowledge it's existence!    >:D
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 03, 2014, 11:56:27 pm
New Superman uniform revealed for BvS:DoJ-

 (http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/screencrush.com/files/2014/07/bvssbig.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 03, 2014, 11:58:00 pm
suppaman live action
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 04, 2014, 12:02:00 am
For a movie called Dawn of Justice these promo pics sure have been bleak.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Long John Killer on July 04, 2014, 12:07:26 am
It gets pretty drab and lawless at dusk in D.C.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on July 04, 2014, 12:12:16 am
Oh hell, there goes Gotham.
Superman is there to "save" the day...

Also, this costume manages to look worse than the last one. Impressive feat.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on July 04, 2014, 12:30:26 am
Is it me or does Cavill look like 15 years older here ?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: walt on July 04, 2014, 12:32:12 am
The shine in his hair makes it look silvery, but it's just a visual effect.

If anything, I'd say he looks STRONGER. Look at the size of those goddamned arms o_O
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on July 04, 2014, 12:33:57 am
Looks straight up padded.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on July 04, 2014, 12:35:54 am
The shine in his hair makes it look silvery, but it's just a visual effect.
The face too. The cheeks are deeper and sharper, the forehead is wider... Eh, maybe it's the lighting too.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: walt on July 04, 2014, 12:36:22 am
Looks straight up padded.
You fool, did you watch Man Of Steel? That's all him, 100%

RELATED:
(http://i622.photobucket.com/albums/tt305/cci_walt/original_zps04b26f17.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on July 04, 2014, 12:37:27 am
Left hand placement
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 04, 2014, 12:38:21 am
Looks straight up padded.

Most of the shot is straight up CGI, it's not outside the realm of possibility that Snyder did a little touch up to have something ready for Comic Con.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on July 04, 2014, 12:45:07 am
You fool, did you watch Man Of Steel? That's all him, 100%
Even then, his chest especially looks pretty huge here.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 04, 2014, 12:46:29 am
yall are naysayers.

The darkness and catgirls make it extra sophisticated.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 04, 2014, 08:30:08 am
holy shit that promo image is fucking wretched. How did this get past so many people? It looks so terrible, the lighting makes Cavill look 20 years older and the filter is so drab and bleak it's ludicrous. it's so bad that his hair is silver, for fucks sake.

The city in the background, though. Is that supposed to be Gotham? Looks more like it's inspired by the gothic/hell erupted from the pavement and formed a city vision of Gotham than the more down to Earth one recently seen in the Nolan movies. And honestly, I much prefer the former. It gives Gotham it's own visual identity (I also think Metropolis should be the same way, but in a gleaming skyscraper and art deco-y sort of way) that isn't just "made up city that looks like Pittsburgh".

Now, have these amazing quotes from visionary director Zack Snyder: (http://comicsalliance.com/the-dark-man-of-steel-returns-henry-cavills-superman-is-back-and-wetter-than-ever/)
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Snyder, who who described Batman V Superman as “thicker, denser and more epic” than Man of Steel
Yes. Seriously. That happened.
Quote
The director can't say exactly how the relationship between the two superheroes evolves, "but suffice it to say there is a 'v' in between their names" in the movie title, Snyder says. He explains that having the "v" instead of "vs." is a way "to keep it from being a straight 'versus' movie, even in the most subtle way."
Yes. By using the terminology of a legal case instead of vs. (which is the only option, there is no such comic as Batman/Superman), it subtly keeps it from being a versus movie. All expected of the master of subtlety, Zack Snyder.

Also, this costume manages to look worse than the last one. Impressive feat.
I honestly can't tell that the costume is different. The lighting is too terrible!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on July 04, 2014, 08:51:26 am
(which is the only option, there is no such comic as Batman/Superman)
Also no such thing as World's Finest, you see, it sounds positive.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 04, 2014, 08:57:15 am
I just took that out of the running altogether (besides the fact that Warner can't make one good decision about these movies) because it couldn't contain the words "Batman", "Superman", and "Justice" all together in one title. I mean shit, Batman and Superman: World's Finest would've been a great title, but how will people know that it's a prelude to the Justice League movie????
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 04, 2014, 10:22:26 am
Not just that my friend, note the rain on the roof, they didn't add the rain impacting the roof properly, it's on either side, but he's not actually getting rain on...Cuz He sUpamahn!

look as the length of the cape, compared to his height.  if the wind wasn't blowing, it would drag on the ground. I thought it was just the angle, but if you look at his shadow, it's blowing directly behind him. The cape is to damn long.

Batman V Superman: Spawn of justice?

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 05, 2014, 10:05:25 am
I'd hate to see how Goyer and Snyder would grim 'n' gritty up Spawn more than he already is.

and speaking of Snyder I just saw this, it's pretty spot-on (and funny)

the pertinent stuff (basically, Snyder's complete and utter failure to go above surface level meaning) is in the first 2 minutes, the rest is focused almost entirely on Sucker Punch

also these various DC TV show news items are everywhere but while I'm posting here I'll put this here too: Carol Kane (yay!) is going to be on Gotham (boo!) as the Penguin's mom. (http://www.avclub.com/article/carol-kane-play-penguins-mom-gotham-206541) But note her last name: Kapelput. Gotham's Penguin has already been shown to be called Oswald Cobblepot (like the comics), but his mom is apparently rocking the original, non-Americanized Old World version of that last name. Which the show is making up, for some reason? This is all very puzzling. It's absurd and feels like changing things for the sake of changing things, but, like, why? Cobblepot is supposed to be a ridiculous name, what's the point of "revealing" that it's actually an Anglicized version of an even sillier, made-up, reverse-engineered last name? And why isn't this show Gotham Central?

... holy fuck Penguin's last name does not deserve so much goddamn text to be written about it, I feel awful. I need to reexamine my priorities in life.

(also, note the first sentence of the Carol Kane article, it's got a great in-joke relating to Batman's creators)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 08, 2014, 12:42:45 am
What what
http://tvline.com/2014/07/07/arrow-brandon-routh-the-atom-season-3/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 08, 2014, 01:18:14 am
Oddly enough, I like the idea lol
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on July 08, 2014, 02:24:39 am
it's funny because he was superman hyuk hyuk *snort*
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on July 08, 2014, 02:58:11 am
He was a good Superman given a terrible script. :(
He could have been THE face of Superman if we got someone who could write and was willing to reboot Superman properly instead of trying to make a non-sense plot tied to Superman II.

And because of Bryan Singer, the face of Superman now is that man of mass murder and destruction. :(

Oh well, I am sure he will play a great Atom.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 08, 2014, 03:03:33 am
Brandon Routh deserved better. I mean, not as much as Christopher Reeve deserved to star in movies that were actually good, but Routh should've gotten a better movie(s) too. Certainly better than that bland British guy they've got now, what's his name again? Slab Bulkhead? Splint Chesthair? Rip Steakface? Big McLargeHuge? Oh who cares.

Here are some rumored minor villains for Wayne V Kent V Kramer: (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/04/3-possible-bad-guys-well-see-in-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/) Mr. Zsasz, Bat-villain and serial killer who carves a mark into his flesh for every kill (I seriously don't get the appeal of this guy, he's just a low-rent, really boring Joker); Morgan Edge, corrupt businessman and sometimes owner of the Daily Planet, and also leader of the mob group Intergang, which serves Darkseid's interests on Earth (here it seems Edge will be Luthor's PR guy); and David Cain, world famous assassin and enemy of Batman (who will apparently be hired by Luthor for a hit in the movie). Really excited for that last one, everyone loves David Cain, cause when it comes to Batman-related assassins, you gotta exclude Deathstroke (cause he's too big for a side role) and Deadshot (who is much more interesting in Suicide Squad). And that's about it, only another white dude.
Too bad there isn't a more famous, more interesting, more Batman-related deadly assassin who's also a woman of color! (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Shiva)

Oh and apparently Amanda Waller is in this too, no doubt as the  young, skinny nu52 version.

Here's the executive producer of Gotham explaining what the show's vision of Batman is:
 (http://comicsalliance.com/gotham-fox-executive-producers-heller-cannon-psychological-truth-batman/)
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It’s really about telling the true story of how someone might become the Batman. The psychological truth of that is that he’d be a lot more damaged and a lot more traumatized and a lot more strange than some visions of how that character would be. It’s a dark character, and it’s a character under pressure.
Oh thank god, I was worried for a sec that this would be even slightly different than usual. Glad they grimmed it up even more too!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 08, 2014, 04:28:47 am

Too bad there isn't a more famous, more interesting, more Batman-related deadly assassin who's also a woman of color! (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Shiva)

Oh stop it... Ugh



Batman v Superman will do better at box office then the Dark Knight? (http://youtu.be/CyHf8eMAfpw)

"Having Batman V Superman open on the same night as Captain America 3 is stupid, it's just stupid" 
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 08, 2014, 07:48:33 am
David Cain, world famous assassin and enemy of Batman (who will apparently be hired by Luthor for a hit in the movie). Really excited for that last one, everyone loves David Cain, cause when it comes to Batman-related assassins, you gotta exclude Deathstroke (cause he's too big for a side role) and Deadshot (who is much more interesting in Suicide Squad). And that's about it, only another white dude.
Too bad there isn't a more famous, more interesting, more Batman-related deadly assassin who's also a woman of color! (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Shiva)

NO. I'm sick of Shiva getting dragged into this crap. I'm sick of her being part of the League, I'm sick of her being portrayed as interchangeable with other assassins, and I am very VERY sick of her jobbing out to Batman. Arkham Origins was the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

Cain's the perfect guy for this sort of stuff anyway.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 08, 2014, 08:35:30 am
Ah, well part of my idea was that Shiva would indeed beat Batman in a straight up fight and he'd have to be rescued by Superman (and maybe they would excuse it as Batman being too old or some shit but c'mon we all know she's on another level above Batman, martial arts-wise). And have her be a free agent with morally ambiguous allegiances and stuff, maybe mention her allying with Batman once or twice, make her interesting, but in a quick way cause she'll only be there for a fight scene. And then that'll be set up for a Black Canary movie where she teams up with Shiva and they kick people in the face a bunch!

And no jobbing to Batman is worse than the time Karate Kid did, I don't care if he was mind controlled, dude held off pre-Crisis Superboy* with SUPER KARATE FROM THE 30TH CENTURY >:[

*ok fine, briefly caught Superboy off guard by avoiding and redirecting his attacks still c'mon that is pretty dang impressive for a normal human
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GOH on July 08, 2014, 10:52:08 am
And because of Bryan Singer, the face of Superman now is that man of mass murder and destruction. :(
???

What does Bryan Singer have to do with it?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 08, 2014, 11:21:35 am
Singer directed Superman Returns, which was so goddamn awful it ruined Routh's chances of being Supes again, hence we now left with Cavill as Superman
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GOH on July 08, 2014, 12:11:17 pm
ah

i thought bia was confusing singer with snyder
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 08, 2014, 12:30:46 pm
And no jobbing to Batman is worse than the time Karate Kid did, I don't care if he was mind controlled, dude held off pre-Crisis Superboy* with SUPER KARATE FROM THE 30TH CENTURY >:[

*ok fine, briefly caught Superboy off guard by avoiding and redirecting his attacks still c'mon that is pretty dang impressive for a normal human

Huh cmon how hard can it be to beat a teenager kid going wax on wax off and having one single kick technique? Ofc Batman is gonna kick miyagi san pupil.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on July 08, 2014, 04:59:07 pm
ah

i thought bia was confusing singer with snyder

No, no. As much as I hate Snyder for what was done with Superman in Man of Mass Destruction, Superman Returns failure led to that reboot.
Singer was the responsible for the mess that Superman Returns was. If it was successful, we'd see more of Brandon Routh, who would have done a very good Superman if he could do HIS Superman instead of emulating Reeves one.
And the need for a Superman reboot would have been much smaller, so we could, perhaps, have dodged that bullet...

Therefore, Singer also has his share of guilty for this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 08, 2014, 05:20:34 pm
It's a shame because EVERYTHING he's done after that movie has made the case that Brandon Routh is a great Superman. Starting with his run on Chuck, and he was a bad guy!

Ah, well part of my idea was that Shiva would indeed beat Batman in a straight up fight and he'd have to be rescued by Superman (and maybe they would excuse it as Batman being too old or some shit but c'mon we all know she's on another level above Batman, martial arts-wise). And have her be a free agent with morally ambiguous allegiances and stuff, maybe mention her allying with Batman once or twice, make her interesting, but in a quick way cause she'll only be there for a fight scene. And then that'll be set up for a Black Canary movie where she teams up with Shiva and they kick people in the face a bunch!

That would be great if that would be the way she was done, but you know she'd either be there because Ra's told her to be there or she'd be some mute "dragon lady" character like Lady Deathstrike (or like PUBLIC ENEMIES!).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 08, 2014, 07:33:09 pm
Well yeah but might as well dream big if I'm gonna dream at all. :(

Huh cmon how hard can it be to beat a teenager kid going wax on wax off and having one single kick technique? Ofc Batman is gonna kick miyagi san pupil.
Motherfucker I will gut you.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 09, 2014, 11:22:02 am
you already dreaming big by thinking karate kid could defeat batman, wasnt the last karate kid jayden smith ?
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/2056/05/2056_1369416231.jpg
Is this the face of the man that can beat the bat? I dont think so.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on July 09, 2014, 06:25:55 pm
all the prep time in the world can't prepare batman for jaden's blue magnum face and nonsensical pseudo-philosophical tweets
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 09, 2014, 06:57:12 pm
you already dreaming big by thinking karate kid could defeat batman, wasnt the last karate kid jayden smith ?
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/2056/05/2056_1369416231.jpg
Is this the face of the man that can beat the bat? I dont think so.
Yours will be a painful death. You will beg for forgiveness, but it shall never come.
(http://i.imgur.com/4kEqL9t.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Edtion on July 09, 2014, 10:07:44 pm
Where is that from?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GOH on July 10, 2014, 12:10:31 am
his imagination
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 10, 2014, 12:56:33 am
Justice League, pre-Flashpoint. During the Lightning Saga, I think?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 10, 2014, 02:28:49 am
Well, basically. The page itself is from the improbably awful Countdown To Final Crisis, but it's recapping something from the not quite as bad but still terrible Lightning Saga. But it's the only actual Karate Kid/Batman fight that I could think of, and it's not as awful as either series/arc overall, though Batman is doing far too well against someone who is a master of every martial art in the universe 1000 years from now. Even with the fact that Karate Kid is being brainwashed, it's still too much. >:[

his imagination
That doesn't even begin to make any amount of sense.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Edtion on July 10, 2014, 08:21:29 am
his imagination
That doesn't even begin to make any amount of sense.

He could be saying that you're amazing at drawing and you drew that picture to make up a point.

Well, basically. The page itself is from the improbably awful Countdown To Final Crisis, but it's recapping something from the not quite as bad but still terrible Lightning Saga. But it's the only actual Karate Kid/Batman fight that I could think of, and it's not as awful as either series/arc overall, though Batman is doing far too well against someone who is a master of every martial art in the universe 1000 years from now. Even with the fact that Karate Kid is being brainwashed, it's still too much. >:[

Thanks, and um...would you happen to remember which issue of Countdown?
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Post by: GOH on July 10, 2014, 10:34:40 am
That doesn't even begin to make any amount of sense.
i'll making a drawing later explaining it
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 10, 2014, 05:51:46 pm
Thanks, and um...would you happen to remember which issue of Countdown?
#50, which was the second or third issue, because it COUNTed DOWN backwards, get it. Ugh, that fucking comic. What a fucking waste.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Ben Affleck is Batman now
Post by: Jmorphman on July 12, 2014, 09:06:52 pm
PREVIOUSLY
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/12/03/warner-bros-producer-tells-us-to-expect-wonder-woman-and-doomsday-in-superman-batman-movie/
Villain seems to be Doomsday.
There are apparently designs for Doomsday (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/10/doomsday-to-appear-in-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/) for BVS aka Buffy, Vampire Slayer. Can't wait for more absurdly over-the-top collateral damage!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on July 12, 2014, 09:10:23 pm
this movie is going to be bad, they are putting everything in this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on July 12, 2014, 09:12:54 pm
Well, as I said, there goes Gotham.
Metropolis is no more after Superman "saved" it... Gotham will have it worse, it seems.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 12, 2014, 09:49:07 pm
Man, this is just sounding like a huge mess.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 12, 2014, 10:15:24 pm
Well...............This made me smile-

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DbGr2bYUyrQ/Ue2EQFfRuqI/AAAAAAAATjY/IV9l28H1uf4/s1600/img-jc_supergirl_3.jpg)


Fake but awesome
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nucka on July 13, 2014, 06:40:59 am
I don't mind the mass destruction, it's overdone but should be expected when super-beings fight. I didn't hate Man of Steel (it actually got me into Smallville) and Ben Affleck as Batman is kinda growing on me and I don't like Ben Affleck.
I have higher hopes for this film than most, but then again it doesn't take much for me to enjoy something when Superman's involved.


Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GOH on July 13, 2014, 02:20:24 pm
lol smallville
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 13, 2014, 05:17:55 pm
. I didn't hate Man of Steel (it actually got me into Smallville) --

--I have higher hopes for this film than most, but then again it doesn't take much for me to enjoy something when Superman's involved.

(http://cdn5.bcnimg.com/media/lowkick/tags_lk/320/5/6/2/5621371412_7c29589058_z.jpg)

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 13, 2014, 05:26:18 pm
Well Superman does make stuff better, usually.

Unfortunately, Superman does not appear until the last episode of Smallville, instead it is, of course, the classic superheroic identity Clark Kent used before becoming Superman: the iconic and not at all thunderously stupid RED-BLUE BLUR!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 13, 2014, 05:46:04 pm
EDIT: Oh, spoilers for Nucka, I guess. I'm not covering it up. It's been too long and the wound still bleeds.

Ugh, I hate that I wasted 5 years of my life on Smallville because I legitimately thought it was going somewhere that wasn't "Superman flies through a cloud they named Darkseid and wins!"
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 13, 2014, 11:47:28 pm
Supposedly the leaked teaser.. shot on a cam
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 13, 2014, 11:53:36 pm
FAAAAAAKE

I could do the leg work and find the video game cutscene that I'm pretty sure that shot of Batman comes from, but there's one thing I can point to no problem: That video was posted two days ago and has not been taken down.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on July 16, 2014, 04:55:35 pm
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/07/16/us-time-warner-fox-idUKKBN0FL15T20140716

And then there is this happening...
I am not sure if this comes through, it would make the Warner DC films less terrible or would make them even worse...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 16, 2014, 05:09:33 pm
It's unlikely to have any effect. I'm more worried about two gigantic media conglomerates merging together, becoming even larger and more powerful and monopolistic.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 21, 2014, 07:35:25 am
sigh
http://geektyrant.com/news/prison-breaks-wentworth-miller-joins-the-flash-as-captain-cold
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on July 21, 2014, 11:43:35 am
Isn't that for the TV show ? Isn't it good ?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 21, 2014, 11:44:43 am
I saw the first episode, it was pretty okay.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on July 21, 2014, 11:48:19 am
Yeah, it was decent, for a "mutant of the week" prelude, I'm thinking the mommy-emo aspect was just to start things up and will disappear soon enough (the teaser between Green Arrow and Flash had a pretty good classic happy-go-lucky Flash). But I was under the impression that DKG sighed because he thought that it was going to be for the Supe/bat movie.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 21, 2014, 11:50:30 am
probably, it would be easy to think that if you werent following things that closely.
about the mommy thing...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on July 21, 2014, 11:55:03 am
Yeah, but I dunno, it feels weird that they'd give it away as soon as the first episode, especially if they have any hope to make it last 10 years (newspaper date). At this point I think JD's big brother might be a red herring yet. It's too obvious. ... But then again it's a bit cheesy and predictable so far.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on July 21, 2014, 10:07:17 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordbird_zpsf45c1928.png[/avatar]Dwayne The Rock The Tooth Fairy Johnson is probably going to be playing Captain Marvel. (http://comicsalliance.com/shazam-dwayne-johnson-the-rock-movie-dc-comics/)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on July 22, 2014, 01:55:36 am
shoulda went with black adam (the better one)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 22, 2014, 02:07:58 am
I'm cool with that, the Rock is a goof. One might even say he's a little cheesy.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 22, 2014, 02:34:06 am
Ugh.......Again with the race thing Pffffff


Edit:
Anyway.

Best WW cosply (http://geektyrant.com/news/wonder-woman-best-of-cosplay-collection)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 22, 2014, 07:44:23 am
Great casting choice, Captain Marvel is the perfect type of role for him. Shame the movie will almost certainly be terrible and they'll make the good Captain dark and broody when it should play to the Rock's strengths (and the character's strengths too) and be a light, fun, and very goofy superhero story, with talking tigers in full suits and a tiny, mind controlling worm that has carries tiny speaker so people can hear him.

shoulda went with black adam (the better one)
Nah. I can't see him doing well with that at all. Sure, it might be more "racially accurate", but who gives a shit about that. There are plenty of people who can play ancient Egyptian dudes, but the Rock is just much more suited to a charismatic, over-the-top, and kinda silly hero, more than he is a brooding villain and sometimes anti-hero.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 22, 2014, 03:43:27 pm
I think it's only in trouble if Snyder's involved. They're almost certainly going to base it on the new origin story, which I know not everybody's a fan of but does a good job of hitting all the emotional beats a movie needs. So the worse thing would be to give it to a director who doesn't understand tone.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 23, 2014, 08:28:17 am
But I was under the impression that DKG sighed because he thought that it was going to be for the Supe/bat movie.
Nah, the sigh was coz Scoffield is back to ruining another character I like. The guy's acting sucks.

probably, it would be easy to think that if you werent following things that closely.
about the mommy thing...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I'm pretty sure the guy in the wheel chair isnt Zoom, since there is a character named Eddie Thawne in the show. So unless he is an ancestor to Eobarb, I think Eddie is Zoom.
I once thought wheel chair guy couldve been Booster Gold, but that doesn't seem plausible now.
I guess we'll have to wait and see

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2014, 10:13:46 am
The universes of all those upcoming DC shows (and also Arrow) and the movies will be separate. (http://comicsalliance.com/geoff-johns-dc-entertainment-movie-tv-universes-separate/) And I'm sure I've seen news items like a month or two ago saying each show would be separate from the other as well (save for Arrow and Flash, of course); which isn't super surprising since they're all on different networks.

It makes more sense creatively to keep them all untethered (though the Arrow folks will never be able to use any Batman or Superman stuff) to avoid running into the problems Agents of Z.Z.Z.Z.Z. ran into (not being able to use many actual Marvel characters), but it seems like a bad choice for the film side. They'd be able to introduce Flash and the Hood/Arrow/is he Green Arrow yet in the Justice League movie without having to spend a ton of time introducing them, and they'd arrive fully formed and the writers would know how to play to the actor's strengths and the actors would have a great handle on their characters and think of the corporate synergy!

I think it's only in trouble if Snyder's involved. They're almost certainly going to base it on the new origin story, which I know not everybody's a fan of but does a good job of hitting all the emotional beats a movie needs. So the worse thing would be to give it to a director who doesn't understand tone.
I think the rot over at the DC movies goes beyond Snyder and Goyer; it seems like everyone over there in a position of editorial power is hell bent on making everything as dark and depressing as possible.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 23, 2014, 04:34:27 pm
I think the rot over at the DC movies goes beyond Snyder and Goyer; it seems like everyone over there in a position of editorial power is hell bent on making everything as dark and depressing as possible.

I feel like you don't cast the Rock in a movie if you want it to be dark and depressing. Even if they screw up and make him Black Adam, he's going to be playing the Scorpion King. I'm really thinking this movie is going to be a "fun" movie that's probably going to get screwed over a need to cram tons of extraneous shit in it or failing to meet box office expectations.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2014, 05:44:26 pm
These are the same people who cast Ben Affleck as seriously brooding DKR but only kinda sorta Batman instead of a goofier, less brooding but still with some hard edges that would play to his strengths as an actor. I just can't believe they're not gonna screw this up. :(

Also the creator Gotham explained the reason why Poison Ivy's real name was changed from Pamela Isley to Ivy Pepper, which is that "If you just re-tell stories exactly as they’ve been told before, whilst you’re being true to the created mythology, you’re not really adding anything to it." (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/21/gotham-creator-addresses-the-curious-name-change/) He then goes on to explain her backstory in the show, which is new. Which... doesn't really make sense? Nobody was asking about the backstory, just the name. Why is the name different, it's a worse name, and there doesn't seem to be any relation between the new backstory and the new name (I mean like maybe he wanted to hint at it but didn't want to spoil that, I dunno, she changes her name at the orphanage and that signals her descent into villainy for some reason) and it just seems pretty weird!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 23, 2014, 05:51:03 pm
they changed her name so someone can go "that girl is poison, poison ivy" , you dork.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2014, 05:55:26 pm
Shush, I just wrote a paragraph about the changed name of a fictional character on a TV show, dont jelous
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on July 23, 2014, 10:18:56 pm
shoulda went with black adam (the better one)
Nah. I can't see him doing well with that at all. Sure, it might be more "racially accurate", but who gives a shit about that. There are plenty of people who can play ancient Egyptian dudes, but the Rock is just much more suited to a charismatic, over-the-top, and kinda silly hero, more than he is a brooding villain and sometimes anti-hero.

oh no, i wasnt speaking on or going for racial accuracy, i just think black adam is better

thats not to say the fucking rock will not play an awesome captain marvelshazam (fucking really) because he will and i would enjoy it (probably the only thing i would enjoy in this ever-increasing pile of excrement), just always thought black adam was better
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2014, 09:16:42 am
Ah sorry, that part was directed at Sky, not you. Could've been worded better.

Yeah Black Adam is pretty neat but I dunno maybe I'm just going through mutilation fatigue and Black Adams seemed like, for a while, Geoff Johns's vessel of fufilling his love of having people be brutally murdered by people with super-strength and or have their arm(s) ripped off. Before all that, when he was mostly on the side of good, on the JSA, was great. But even with all that I like the Big Red Cheese better, the concept is just so perfect!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 24, 2014, 11:23:05 am
Our first look at Arsenal
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10347715_330117717154212_5862696349915384395_n.jpg?oh=394b58830b6d1acd5aaf34d33a8b840c&oe=54383CAC&__gda__=1412708038_c3b1e4bb9b1134672e077d71a2eba19e)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 24, 2014, 10:49:40 pm
https://twitter.com/TheRock/statuses/492408070178217985
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on July 25, 2014, 12:49:29 am
https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/492413208087392256/photo/1

... Oh gods...
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Post by: QuickFist on July 25, 2014, 01:01:50 am
 :blank:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 25, 2014, 01:55:55 am
https://twitter.com/TheRock/statuses/492408070178217985

Goddammit Rocky, just tell us which one you are already.

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/492413208087392256/photo/1

... Oh gods...

Because of course we couldn't do a mockup of Detective 27 with Affleck in costume, gotta show more Sad Batman
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 02:41:16 am
Ah sorry, that part was directed at Sky, not you. Could've been worded better.

Yes, as I've no idea what you're talking about.

Edit:
Because of course we couldn't do a mockup of Detective 27 with Affleck in costume, gotta show more Sad Batman

No, someone needs to mock one up with a gillette shaver

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 02:54:10 am
Try this, might ease your perpetual confusion:
Ugh.......Again with the race thing Pffffff

https://twitter.com/TheRock/statuses/492408070178217985
Oh goddammit, does that mean he'll be Black Adam after all? Ugh, he would've been so great as Captain Marvel.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 03:15:02 am
he would've been so great as Captain Marvel.

Why would Johnson be a good Marvel? He looks nothing like him.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 03:18:36 am
Let's see, he's a big, muscley dude, has boatloads of charisma and charm, and excels at playing earnest, over the top action roles. He looks like Captain Marvel, and he's got the skills to play him!

Also, new Batfleck stuff.
(http://i.imgur.com/2fArldp.jpg)
I gotta say, I'm liking this look much better than TDK(R) one. They've gone back to the solid head piece (which means no more head turning), but I think it just looks better being a solid piece. The thinner neck of the one from TDK made Bale's head look fat. :-\

Besides, they can always shoot things to avoid exposing the fact that the neck can't turn!
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Post by: Speedpreacher on July 25, 2014, 03:22:05 am
he would've been so great as Captain Marvel.

Why would Johnson be a good Marvel? He looks nothing like him.

That's got nothing to do with nothing. The Rock's a goofy larger than life musclebound actor, he's be a great Captain Marvel.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 03:23:57 am
Let's see, he's a big, muscley dude, has boatloads of charisma and charm, and excels at playing earnest, over the top action roles.
That works out great........with voice acting.


He looks like Captain Marvel, and he's got the skills to play him!
Man crushing are we?

How doe he remotely look like Captain Marvel? Besides, it'll be great to see him play a villain in a movie that doesn't suck..................Wait, ah damn it.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 03:26:39 am
How doe he remotely look like Captain Marvel?
He's a big muscley dude. I think I'm repeating myself.

but yeah, dude's fucking stacked. Captain Marvel should be stacked, have a real physical presence and stuff. And the Rock's built like a Greek god or something. And say, Captain Marvel gets some of his powers from Greek gods! And also a Roman one, because acronyms!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 03:28:48 am
How doe he remotely look like Captain Marvel?
He's a big muscley dude. I think I'm repeating myself.

but yeah, dude's fucking stacked. Like a Greek god or something. And say, Captain Marvel gets some of his powers from Greek gods! And also a Roman one, because acronyms!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d4/Captainmarvel.JPG)


Whatever you're smoking, it's hurting you.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 03:31:31 am
Oh gimme a break. The Rock's skin color is completely and utterly unimportant when it comes to Captain Marvel. Captain Marvel doesn't need to be any one race; he's not Black Panther or anything. His backstory wouldn't change if he wasn't white. He's a magical being that a little boy turns into. Who gives a shit if the Rock doesn't match up ethnicity wise with the usual depiction of Captain Marvel?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 03:35:29 am
Because the point of good casting, is bringing in the right actor to suit the character, not your wet dreams.

He's 'Black Atom'..........you'll be fine

Edit:

(http://comicsbeat.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/197902_10151272919934324_1741566772_n.jpg)

It's a good fit.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: nick. on July 25, 2014, 03:36:33 am
Oh my god shut up
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 03:38:30 am
Because the point of good casting, is bringing in the right actor to suit the character, not your wet dreams.
The Rock plays Captain Marvel types all the time. His build matches up with Captain Marvel. He is skilled at playing characters similar to Captain Marvel, and is clearly interested in playing someone in the Captain Marvel mythos. Disqualifying him because the color of his skin is absolutely absurd, especially for a magically created character.

but hey, keep on with those insinuations about me crushing on the Rock, makes you look like a real fucking adult!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 25, 2014, 03:39:04 am
Because the point of good casting, is bringing in the right actor to suit the character, not your wet dreams.

He's 'Black Atom'..........you'll be fine


I dont understand why you keep trying to imply he has a man crush on the Rock as if somehow that made any sense.
Dwayne is a great actor and he just did Hercules. One doesnt have to be sexually aroused by an actor in order to want to see him take part in something as a hero.


Trying to dismiss someone over "well you probably want to bang him" doesnt really work outside of third grade arguments.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Roman55 on July 25, 2014, 03:41:48 am
He's a big muscley dude. I think I'm repeating myself.
It's for this reason I personally think he'd be fine for either one (though I'd like to see him as Adam cause I think he'd be a cool bad guy). For marketing reasons alone however, they might just cast him as Captain Marvel Shazam Billy Batson's superheroic alter ego.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 03:43:53 am
Trying to dismiss someone over "well you probably want to bang him" doesn't really work outside of third grade arguments.

Agreed, I meant no real harm, however-

 (http://dreager1.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/black-adam-ok-cine.jpg)

Come on, he's Atom. Why fight it?

Edit:

For the first time, I think I'm actually happy with a casting choice for this thing.......Who'd a thunk it eh?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 25, 2014, 03:45:11 am
...that's Adam. You dont even know the characters you are arguing over.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: nick. on July 25, 2014, 03:46:18 am
Let's like try to move on man
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 03:46:44 am
Looks again........oops

lol

Edit:

Hail to the frigging king baby-

Spoiler: ah yeah (click to see content)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Just No Point on July 25, 2014, 03:51:57 am
Not that he needs to but the rock can look black or tanned white anyway. Or at least back when he was a wrestler he could.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 25, 2014, 03:54:21 am
I wouldn't care if he was as black as Mark Henry, he's just a better fit character wise for Captain Shazam than he is for Black Adam.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 03:55:42 am
Not that he needs to but the rock can look black or tanned white anyway. Or at least back when he was a wrestler he could.
Are you saying The Rock has a mutant ability?!?!?! That's Marvel's thing!

and as far as I know there has not been any gene bombs set off, so don't be bringing up metahumans, there hasn't been any INVASION!'s by the Dominators yet!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 04:01:59 am
Why would he 'need' to look white? He's perfect just the way he is.

Ok, lets calm down and be methodical about this, why would be a bad choice for B.A?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 25, 2014, 04:02:32 am
black atom or black adam?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: nick. on July 25, 2014, 04:03:03 am
My. Fucking. God.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 25, 2014, 04:04:25 am
Why would he 'need' to look white? He's perfect just the way he is.

Ok, lets calm down and be methodical about this, why would be a bad choice for B.A?

No, it's on you. Why would he be a good choice besides the fact that he looks similar?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Roman55 on July 25, 2014, 04:05:56 am
B.A?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/29/BABaracus.jpg)
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Post by: Nero D. on July 25, 2014, 04:06:38 am
yes
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 04:07:38 am
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson as B.A. Baracus as Theo Adam as Teth Adam as Black Adam as Billy Batson as Captain Marvel aka Shazam
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 04:12:56 am

No, it's on you. Why would he be a good choice besides the fact that he looks similar?

You...really just asked that didn't you. Well ok then-

Let's see, he's a big, muscley dude, has boatloads of charisma and charm, and excels at playing earnest, over the top action roles.

AAAAnd he looks similar :pimp:

I'm very pleased.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 04:16:04 am
Earnest and over the top are not exactly the best qualities to describe Black Adam, the cold, murderous, humorous, and deeply vengeful immortal who has no compunctions about using his literal godly powers to their fullest extent.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 25, 2014, 04:19:33 am
oh my god why are you still replying
he has no idea who the char is, he calls him atom, he just keeps arguing because he thinks you are getting annoyed
its a goddamn jla movie with a set villain, ofc they are not hiring rock for a one off part as the villain of the week that will share screentime with the other villains and the jla cast
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2014, 04:20:54 am
There was an alleged leaked list of DC's upcoming movies that had Shazam coming out in 2016; now would be the time they start casting for that. :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 25, 2014, 04:24:26 am
the cold, murderous, humorous, and deeply vengeful immortal who has no compunctions about using his literal godly powers to their fullest extent.

Dwayne Johnson did work for Vince Mcmahon, so it wouldn't be hard to find inspiration lol
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Lord Kain on July 25, 2014, 11:59:12 pm
Anybody shared this yet?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/10530939_10152572647668836_7665579182444790767_n.jpg)
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Post by: Bea on July 26, 2014, 12:21:04 am
Yep.

I linked to the tweet containing it at last page.

The cowl looks okay, I like it. But sad Batman is looking ridiculous. I just can't take him seriously with this sad look.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 26, 2014, 12:24:05 am
Needs lenses
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 26, 2014, 12:36:55 am
Yep.

I linked to the tweet containing it at last page.

The cowl looks okay, I like it. But sad Batman is looking ridiculous. I just can't take him seriously with this sad look.
it looks like they did it for the meme potential but the internet noticed and is not playing along.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 26, 2014, 07:53:44 am
You say that, but(t)... (http://www.avclub.com/article/lets-photoshop-new-image-ben-afflecks-batman-becau-207339)
(http://i.onionstatic.com/avclub/5179/32/original/640.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: AerosMugen on July 26, 2014, 03:47:00 pm
Well, he has TPS, you shouldn't be mocking him.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 26, 2014, 07:25:57 pm
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/speedpreacher/1406395882793_zpsf2f38bf6.jpg~original)

Replaced with HD image. The kind of journalism you can trust!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: QuickFist on July 26, 2014, 07:29:19 pm
Better than I imagined, but stilll...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on July 26, 2014, 07:38:30 pm
What the heck are going with those absurd heels?

Where is her muscle mass, her imposing height, her presence?
Sorry, that ain't Wonder Woman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: QuickFist on July 26, 2014, 07:40:43 pm
Of course is not, after getting Man of Murder and Sad Batman, we get Weak Wonder Woman
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GTOAkira on July 26, 2014, 07:41:55 pm
She missing the presence wonderwoman have but I think We have to wait for a trailer to see how she look in action
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 26, 2014, 07:43:40 pm
Yeah those heels are bullshit, but that's probably the only way she doesn't end up looking tiny next to Affleck and Cavill. Hell, they were all on stage and Cavill's like an inch or two shorter than Affleck.

Also, my opinion stays at a resounding 'meh'.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 26, 2014, 08:09:45 pm
It looks... surprisingly decent?

I mean, besides the complete lack of any and all color, because this is a deeply serious and realistic movie about a man dressed as a Dracula fighting Space Jesus and also a warrior princess is there. And those giant fucking heels, Christ.
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Post by: Mechy on July 26, 2014, 08:16:16 pm
Bleh

For all the talk about how she was gonna buff up for the role, guess not.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Lord Kain on July 26, 2014, 08:18:03 pm
Of course is not, after getting Man of Murder and Sad Batman, we get Weak Wonder Woman
and lets not also forget this actress horrible acting....
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 26, 2014, 08:19:12 pm
EDIT: [REDACTED]

I've just been told that Batsuit photo was fake.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/speedpreacher/1406399467966_zps2e2233db.jpg~original)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Lord Kain on July 26, 2014, 08:22:09 pm
Looks like a suit made of duct tape
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 26, 2014, 08:53:45 pm
well this thread needs some positive spirit.
i must say i enjoy how that face shot has lenses for bat eyes, its a change they needed to do for a while now.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 26, 2014, 08:57:56 pm
Based on the teaser trailer, he does indeed have the white eyes when he's in the Miller armor at least.

(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/speedpreacher/1406408616612_zpsf3f1982e.jpg~original)

Updated with photographic evidence. News you can trust!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Aldo on July 26, 2014, 09:10:10 pm
The negativity is definitely deposited in this thread, lol. That wonder woman looks good but damn she looks way too skinny. Some more muscle mass pls.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 26, 2014, 09:22:03 pm
(http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/speedpreacher/1406395882793_zpsf2f38bf6.jpg~original)


, because this is a deeply serious and realistic movie about a man dressed as a Dracula fighting Space Jesus and also a warrior princess is there. And those giant fucking heels, Christ.


*snickers* You nailed it.

Lame as hell, look out kids, she's got her angry eyes on lol
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 26, 2014, 09:35:52 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/6S2wGcb.jpg)
lmbo
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GOH on July 26, 2014, 10:04:41 pm
If I didn't know this was the DC movie thread I wouldn't know that was Wonder Woman.

She looks so bland and stripped of color.

Bleh.
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Post by: Bea on July 26, 2014, 10:52:30 pm
Funny... you add colour and suddenly it doesn't look as terrible.
It is almost passable... Of course, colour doesn't solve that ridiculous heels problem.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 26, 2014, 11:16:27 pm
I just played a prank on my life partner, I showed the photoshop version first, the first words were-

 "She didn't do anything; she still looks like a stick...Why is she wearing heels, I thought you said she's an Amazon?"

I then scrolled up to the real one-

"That, is the real one? *I nod yes* It's horrible, she sucks"

I lol'ed so hard
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Post by: Iced on July 26, 2014, 11:27:50 pm
The photoshop version actually has linda carter face. :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 27, 2014, 04:49:27 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOd8byxdjwQ


(http://i.imgur.com/1FWzvKj.png)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 27, 2014, 05:41:46 am
Sandman movie is in preproduction. (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/25/the-sandman-movie-in-pre-production-and-no-more-signings-for-neil-gaiman/) Unfortunately.

Guillermo del Toro‘s Justice League Dark movie (now apparently called Dark Universe) apparently is still happening, (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/07/26/batman-superman-green-lantern-everyone-eventually-will-come-together/) but who knows with his schedule.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 27, 2014, 04:18:16 pm
Depends on which Sandman, the 'Shadow' archetype or the Tim Burton bull$hit one.


Spoiler: I'll take this (click to see content)

Spoiler: or this (click to see content)

Spoiler: Over this crap any day (click to see content)

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 27, 2014, 04:40:09 pm
you are one of the 2 people that thought sandman by neil gaiman was bad?
sorry to break your heart but they are adapting the award winning series not the shadow rip off.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on July 27, 2014, 04:42:10 pm
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152561673737243

One word: BOOOOOOOORING.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 27, 2014, 05:16:31 pm
That was not Superman  :brood:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on July 27, 2014, 05:25:43 pm
If that robot suit is your only protection you have against the dude who can down major cities by flying through them, do so at insane speed and shoot fucking laser beams from his eyes, you might want to cover up your chin.

Or better yet, not fucking fight him in the first place.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on July 27, 2014, 05:35:09 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-4.png[/avatar]Oh good, it's rainy and gritty and dark and angsty and 'mature.'

Because god forbid superheroes actually seem fun or anything.  The very idea.  >_>
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 27, 2014, 05:42:37 pm
If that robot suit is your only protection you have against the dude who can down major cities by flying through them, do so at insane speed and shoot fucking laser beams from his eyes, you might want to cover up your chin.

Or better yet, not fucking fight him in the first place.



Wouldn't matter, the only way this can remotely work is if they bring in Kryptonite. Honestly though, It's surprising that no one is upset at the way they're presenting Superman here. "Man of Murder" fits here.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on July 27, 2014, 05:50:54 pm
Even with kryptonite Batman is fucked.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 27, 2014, 10:32:24 pm
This batman, yea, but lets face facts.

They'll face off, fight for scene, face a big bad, realize they have to work together and end up 'friends' with a Gal "Le-twig" Wonder Woman in toe.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 27, 2014, 10:34:37 pm
Depends on which Sandman, the 'Shadow' archetype or the Tim Burton bull$hit one.
Jesus fuck, does every highly praised, famous, and critically beloved comic send you in an irrational tizzy or what. Christ.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 27, 2014, 10:53:03 pm
Are you asking me?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on July 28, 2014, 12:50:51 am
vidoe link is dead, so it is again before it dies


also,
Ra's Motherfucken al Ghul!!
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Post by: QuickFist on July 28, 2014, 01:40:20 am
Damn! I might even start watching it now
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 28, 2014, 04:46:29 am
vidoe link is dead, so it is again before it dies
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EynyCfuUbs[/youtube]

also,
Ra's Motherfucken al Ghul!!
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKE36sL6jKc[/youtube]

OH MY GOD!! :O
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 28, 2014, 06:26:41 am
Another wonderful, though provoking conversation with Sky79. Truly a pleasure.

Another preview of the 100% straight Constantine show:

apparently Jim Corrigan is gonna appear? Maybe he'll get murdered or something, maybe become bonded to an Angel, becoming the literal Wrath of God? Maybe appear as a ghostly white-fleshed man dressed only in a speedo, some boots and gloves, and a hooded cape? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_%28comics%29)

Well, probably not so much that last part.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 28, 2014, 06:53:51 am
They'll probably keep the cloak and the white eyes, not so much the green. But eh, looks cool. I didn't watch the leak, so I'll give it a shot.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 28, 2014, 06:54:53 am
What about completely nude Spectre from Kingdom Come, clad only in the cloak?!?!?!?!
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Post by: Speedpreacher on July 28, 2014, 07:00:06 am
As long as John shows suitable disinterest in what's going on under the cloak, I think they'll allow it!
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 28, 2014, 07:04:49 am
Alternatively it could be that Warner has been lying and there will be crossovers between the shows, and the Jim Corrigan in Constantine will be the corrupt cop from Gotham (Central) who for some reason has the same name as a murdered cop from the 40's who became the Spirit of Vengeance (no, the other one) and who later murdered another cop who became the next host for said Spirit of Vengeance!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on July 29, 2014, 12:53:21 am
results are in, dc won comic con
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/convention_news/comic-con/news/?a=104668

marvel is over
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: AerosMugen on July 29, 2014, 01:11:35 am
Well, yeah, it was talked a lot, but they should search for how many of those mentions uses "will never watch it", "stupid" and "shit" in the same paragraph.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Tyrant Belial on July 29, 2014, 02:58:38 am
Lol, Intent to view covers that, almost no one actually wants to go so it.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 30, 2014, 06:31:19 am
Well, yeah, it was talked a lot, but they should search for how many of those mentions uses "will never watch it", "stupid" and "shit" in the same paragraph.
Lol, Intent to view covers that, almost no one actually wants to go so it.
Indeed, one research firm has said that only 10% of the people tweeting have any intent to actually watch it (http://www.wired.com/2014/07/batman-v-superman-twitter/), behind both ratings juggernaut The Walking Dead and extremely gay cult show Teen Wolf (and I'm not using gay to mean dumb, I mean it is incredibly homoerotic and has multiple gay characters and conspires to have its male cast shirtless as much as possible)

unfortunately even that firm said that Marvel still lost to DC :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on July 31, 2014, 05:04:01 am
If it makes anyone feel better, AMC is disappointed in both camps-

Marvel for saying NOTHING about Dr. Strange and DC for Gal Gadot clearly skipping on her workouts-
Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qotvpzJf1X4)
WARNING: ZACK SNYDER talks/jokes for 2 minutes and 30 seconds before bringing out the people we actually want to see.

I am seriously starting to think they photoshoped muscle on that WW pic, this woman is still a twig.
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 31, 2014, 05:40:57 am
So I was gonna come in here and post and article about Bruce Timm returning to direct a DC animated movie to cheer everyone up but they updated the article to say "lol whoops that's not happening at all we misunderstood" so uh, fuck?

goddammit, I was really looking forward to a new Timm-DC joint. :brood:

Oh, OK, here's something else: J. R. Ramirez was cast as Wildcat in Arrow. (http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/arrow-j-r-ramirez-wildcat-casting-cw/) Which is absolutely terrible, another white character is being played by a nonwhite actor! I must away to mine fainting couch!

although honestly, I mean like I know Arrow is a CW show so everyone needs to be a gorgeous young person (or a gorgeous middle-aged person but not like too middle-aged), but I'm kinda disappointed they went with so young an actor. And if they wanted a younger Wildcat, why not use Yolanda Montez, and have Ted Grant be her mentor or something? That way you'd get a kickass female hero too!

But it looks like they're just gonna use him as a mentor for Laurel Lance (that's the Lance sister that everyone hates and isn't Black Canary and everyone is incredibly scared will take over as Canary if her much, much cooler sister dies, right?), which just seems like a waste.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on July 31, 2014, 07:15:32 am
It's because he's a love interest for Laurel. Which is somewhat of a comic-inspired thing I guess but really because shipping has proven to be good business.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on July 31, 2014, 08:43:12 am
If it makes anyone feel better, AMC is disappointed in both camps-

Marvel for saying NOTHING about Dr. Strange and DC for Gal Gadot clearly skipping on her workouts-
Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qotvpzJf1X4)
WARNING: ZACK SNYDER talks/jokes for 2 minutes and 30 seconds before bringing out the people we actually want to see.

I am seriously starting to think they photoshoped muscle on that WW pic, this woman is still a twig.

Oh dear goodness... she looks like a twig on that video.
They clearly photoshoped muscle on the WW pick.

So much for hoping she would hit the gym to play the part... :/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on July 31, 2014, 08:48:15 am
It's because he's a love interest for Laurel. Which is somewhat of a comic-inspired thing I guess but really because shipping has proven to be good business.
When I first saw the casting I thought one of the reasons they went younger was to add a love triangle or quadrangle or whatever to the Green Arrow/Felicity relationship, but then the description of the role just talked about him training not-Black Canary and I forgot about it. Because I just think of it as a relationship between Black Canary II and Wildcat (who trained her) and he's basically an uncle to her and eww.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 01, 2014, 03:16:52 am
Oh, OK, here's something else: J. R. Ramirez was cast as Wildcat in Arrow. (http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/arrow-j-r-ramirez-wildcat-casting-cw/) Which is absolutely terrible, another white character is being played by a nonwhite actor! I must away to mine fainting couch!


Wildcat needs a reboot, from the ground up anyway, I wouldn't have done it like this............ but eh.

I'm more interested how he'll look, really.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

edit:
Oh dear goodness... she looks like a twig on that video.
They clearly photoshoped muscle on the WW pick.

So much for hoping she would hit the gym to play the part... :/

Between Snyder's jibbajabba and seeing miss 'Le-twig', the host was the perfect fit. If there's anyone who knows about a project being driven into the ground, it's Chris Hardwick.

The whole thing was sad.


Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 01, 2014, 09:07:53 am
Wildcat needs no reboot. He works perfectly well as a nonpowered street level hero who was active during WWII and has since gone on to teach everyone from Batman to Black Canary how to fight. He works great as a remnant of the old guard, and one who is still actively involved with teaching and inspiring the next generation of heroes.

... or at least, that's how it used to work. Thanks nu52!


I'm not really sure what the problem with the tape is; he's a boxer, and he doesn't have rich murdered parents. The tape makes sense both as a design element (calling attention to his boxer nature) and as a character element (he's an ordinary dude who made his costume out of what he had).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 01, 2014, 11:43:19 pm
I'm not really sure what the problem with the tape is; he's a boxer, and he doesn't have rich murdered parents. The tape makes sense both as a design element (calling attention to his boxer nature) and as a character element (he's an ordinary dude who made his costume out of what he had).

You really want to get into this?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Edtion on August 02, 2014, 01:15:41 am
I want you two to get in to it...preferably in the DC Comics Universe thread (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/dc-comics-universe-maybe-discussion-129921.740.html) but where ever you want works.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 02, 2014, 03:13:32 am
Well I already laid out why I think it makes sense, so I'm good. But if Sky wants to continue complaining about incredibly minor shit that no one else would ever in a million years have a problem with, he can really get into it in either thread, really.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 02, 2014, 03:15:02 am
I think that's a 'no' on your end.

Pffffffff
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 02, 2014, 03:17:07 am
Well I'm glad you're able to so eloquently argue your point.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 02, 2014, 03:20:07 am
If you're game, I am as well J.

See you there.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on August 02, 2014, 09:29:58 pm
http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/content/batman-vs-superman-wayne-financial-building-ruins-set-images

As expected... Gotham is doomed.
This "Superman" is only good at levelling cities.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 02, 2014, 09:35:38 pm
Nah, they're filming in Detroit, it always looks like that.

... god Detroit jokes are depressing, it's such a shitty situation for its residents, sorry :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 02, 2014, 10:00:16 pm
AMC Mailbag host and editor & chief John Campea commented on how well BvS actors will measure up next to each other-

"These two are monsterus men, but Ben Affleck is nearly half a head taller then Henry Cavill"- John Campea

Spoiler: side by side (click to see content)

Add the costume and Ben will tower over him in the movie.

Edit:
Yo Bea, maybe they'll have heels for Gal AND Henry   :laugh3:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 04, 2014, 07:32:24 pm
Nah, they're filming in Detroit, it always looks like that.

... god Detroit jokes are depressing, it's such a shitty situation for its residents, sorry :(
now I had this mental picture of superman/apocaliptic movies being filmed on detroit to save money (since it always looks like that), then detroit becomes rich adn gets fixed, the studios abandon it and it becoems poor again and the cycle repeats itself.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 05, 2014, 01:06:13 am
it's such a shitty situation for its residents, sorry :(

They've no one to blame but themselves J. They don't need pity, they need a kick in the Azz
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 05, 2014, 01:33:19 am
Oh go fuck yourself, you morally bankrupt piece of shit.

Fucking Christ, blaming the victims, Jesus.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 05, 2014, 01:38:08 am
WTH man? Victims of what? They voted for, elected, reelected and supported the policies that got them into this mess.

Yo mods, would someone mind splitting this off, I don't want to derail this topic by yammering politics.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Titiln on August 05, 2014, 01:42:24 am
just ban sky instead imo. bad poster that doesnt understand forums
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on August 05, 2014, 02:04:56 am
it's such a shitty situation for its residents, sorry :(

They've no one to blame but themselves J. They don't need pity, they need a kick in the Azz

WTH man? Victims of what? They voted for, elected, reelected and supported the policies that got them into this mess.

Yo mods, would someone mind splitting this off, I don't want to derail this topic by yammering politics.

oh



fuck you fuck yourself
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 05, 2014, 02:24:04 am
Yo mods, would someone mind splitting this off, I don't want to derail this topic by yammering politics.
No. Literally no one wants to indulge your wretched Randian fantasies. Let's just nip this in the bud.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: -Red- on August 05, 2014, 02:30:46 am
Every single time I come to the Marvel/DC threads around here it's all about Sky complaining about irrelevant shit and trolling Jmorphman and DKDC with endless arguments that go nowhere fast. And when he's finally unable to keep his shit going on due to having no idea what to use on his favor to continue he just ignores the posts (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2000703) and moves on to the next baseless argument where he takes something out of context to trigger another fight.

No wonder I barely come to the Art & Entertainment threads nowadays. It's freaking irritating and boring. He's been the same for the last 4 years, I fail to see why people still pay attention to him and his trolling and dare to take him seriously at this point (Because seriously, I really hope he's actually trolling which would at least explain his behavior).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 05, 2014, 02:33:38 am
I don't think that it's trolling so much as he's got a weird boner for JM.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: -Red- on August 05, 2014, 02:36:39 am
Would think the same if this were the only thread/section where he did that shit in the last 4 years.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Titiln on August 05, 2014, 02:38:22 am
he's a fucking terrible poster but it's not fair to say art & entertainment is shit because he posts in these threads. there are several threads he has no participation in
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 05, 2014, 02:40:32 am
These two/three threads have been my only real interaction with Sky in the last few months, ever, at least as far as I can recall. And I regret spending my time responding. But the lesson learned was better late then never, I guess?

I don't think that it's trolling so much as he's got a weird boner for JM.
Why couldn't it have been the good kind of boner? :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: -Red- on August 05, 2014, 02:43:24 am
he's a fucking terrible poster but it's not fair to say art & entertainment is shit because he posts in these threads. there are several threads he has no participation in

Yeah I know, but the DC/Marvel threads around here are the only ones I really care about and well... the whole thing ruins the experience :| . Can't complain about the rest of the section though.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 05, 2014, 03:05:47 am
I don't think that it's trolling so much as he's got a weird boner for JM.

He makes good points now and then........... a rare find here.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 05, 2014, 03:18:29 am
Yeah, it's not like you made those posts for him or anything. He can just post back if he wants, that baka
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 05, 2014, 03:35:48 am
"Conversations" often work that way 'Preacher'.

Now can we please get back on topic?

Editor-In-Chief John Campea Editorial: How GUARDIANS Proves JUSTICE LEAGUE Doesn't Need Origin Stories. (http://youtu.be/lEfmfZvr10E)
THANK YOU JOHN!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Titiln on August 05, 2014, 03:39:00 am
They've no one to blame but themselves J. They don't need pity, they need a kick in the Azz
i'm glad you're so concerned about keeping it on topic
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 05, 2014, 03:47:03 am
"Conversations" often work that way 'Preacher'.

"Sorry" I "hit" so "close" to "home" 'Sky'
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on August 06, 2014, 11:04:43 pm
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw shit
its on now

Untitled DC Film  - 08/05/16

Untitled DC Film  - 06/23/17

Untitled DC Film  - 11/17/17

Untitled DC Film  - 03/23/18

Untitled DC Film  - 07/27/18

Untitled WB Event Film - 11/16/18

Untitled DC Film  - 04/05/19

Untitled DC Film  - 06/14/19

Untitled DC Film  - 04/03/20

Untitled DC Film  - 06/19/20

Untitled WB Event Film - 11/20/20


whatchu gonna do marvel against  ELEVEN new movies?! HUH? Whatchu gonna do?!

http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-blinks-in-marvel-showdown-batman-v-superman-avoids-captain-america-3/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 06, 2014, 11:40:28 pm
Oh go fuck yourself,

took you long enough, like literally, nobody won the bet because it took you longer than anybody had bet for.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, AND ELEVEN MORE!
Post by: Jmorphman on August 06, 2014, 11:48:59 pm
Man c'mon don't send out another invitation to him.

also what's the big idea, changing my thread title? >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 07, 2014, 04:49:15 am
Oh grow up........both of you.


http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-blinks-in-marvel-showdown-batman-v-superman-avoids-captain-america-3/

About time, the whole 'showdown' BS was old a month ago.

Thanks Iced



Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 10, 2014, 09:58:21 pm
Apparently someone claiming to be Zack Snyder called into a morning zoo radio show (http://www.avclub.com/article/zack-snyder-thinks-people-should-stop-making-fun-a-207960) that was in the middle of making fun of Aquaman to tell them all that umm actually Aquaman is totally cool, and, uh, his trident could totally “cut the flesh of Superman if they came in contact”, now stop making fun of him, guys, stop.

So moving beyond the fact that "Aquaman could cut the flesh of Superman with his trident if they came in contact" is the most Zack Snyderian defense (http://www.avclub.com/article/zack-snyder-thinks-people-should-stop-making-fun-a-207960#comment-1534366840) of Aquaman imaginable, if that was in fact Zack Snyder, then Aquaman is probably going to, uh, "cut the flesh" of Superman in Batman, Superman and the V: Day at the Beach, right?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 12, 2014, 10:34:48 pm
Guillermo del Toro talks Justice League Dark, which is apparently still happening (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/08/12/guillermo-del-toro-talks-justice-league-dark-and-he-will-be-watching-constantine/) (he has so many other projects, I don't want to see him get sweeped up in the terribleness of DC's movies!).

Anyways, he mentions a line up of the standard magic/occult DC characters who shuttle back and forth between the DC and Vertigo imprints; you've got your Etrigan the Demons, you've got your Deadmen, your Swamp Things, your Zatannas, your Constantines, your... wait, the Floronic Man? Whaaaaat???

The Floronic Man started off as an Atom villain but is more known for antagonizing Swamp Thing. Was del Toro just mentioning names period or specifically the heroes on the JL Dark team?

Also, sadly, The Spectre will not appear in the JLD movie, but will on the Constantine show. Which is so lame, big budget special effects Spectre would be amazing, just imagine, him growing bigger than the planet Earth to fight giant demons and turning arsonists into giant candles and lighting them as punishments for their crimes, it would be so cool!

A final tidbit is that the Constantine show will not cross over at all with the JLD movie, but del Toro is looking into maybe casting the TV show's Constantine as the movie version and having the show and movie actually cross over after all, maybe? That's pretty weird.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: AS1_ on August 12, 2014, 11:02:59 pm
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw shit
its on now

Untitled DC Film  - 08/05/16

Untitled DC Film  - 06/23/17

Untitled DC Film  - 11/17/17

Untitled DC Film  - 03/23/18

Untitled DC Film  - 07/27/18

Untitled WB Event Film - 11/16/18

Untitled DC Film  - 04/05/19

Untitled DC Film  - 06/14/19

Untitled DC Film  - 04/03/20

Untitled DC Film  - 06/19/20

Untitled WB Event Film - 11/20/20


whatchu gonna do marvel against  ELEVEN new movies?! HUH? Whatchu gonna do?!

http://www.thewrap.com/warner-bros-blinks-in-marvel-showdown-batman-v-superman-avoids-captain-america-3/

one of those better be static shock or teen titans or nightwing like a boss
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 13, 2014, 12:13:07 am
Swamp Thing. --

---Guillermo Del Toro

THIS MUST HAPPEN!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 13, 2014, 08:38:59 am
Warner Bros. gave the assignment to write Aquaman to two different people, and the best script will be used. (http://www.avclub.com/article/warner-bros-hires-two-aquaman-writers-holding-tryo-208085) The two screenwriters are... the guy who wrote Gangster Squad and the dude who wrote the 300 sequel.

Jesus Christ.

edit: fucked up the tags
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on August 13, 2014, 06:04:09 pm
how outrageous do you think they are gonna make him?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 13, 2014, 06:53:57 pm
http://www.avclub.com/article/warner-bros-hires-two-aquaman-writers-holding-tryo-208085 said:
Warner Bros. gave the assignment to write Aquaman to two different people, and the best script will be used.[/url] The two screenwriters are... the guy who wrote Gangster Squad and the dude who wrote the 300 sequel.
Jesus Christ.

Well I haven't seen Gangster Squad so I guess I vote for that guy?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 13, 2014, 08:57:08 pm
Apparently Gangster Squad is even worse than 300-2!!!
Title: Dwayne The Rock johnson confirmed for Shazzam movie
Post by: Legendary DeMoNk@I on August 20, 2014, 12:23:41 am
UH-OH! he better be playing Black Adam!! :twisted:

Read here
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=54941
Title: Re: Dwayne The Rock johnson confirmed for Shazzam movie
Post by: Jmorphman on August 20, 2014, 12:26:09 am
He better play Captain Marvel because it would so perfectly fit his talents, much, much more than Black Adam.
Title: Re: Dwayne The Rock johnson confirmed for Shazzam movie
Post by: Japanese Jesus on August 20, 2014, 12:32:19 am
Good fucking luck finding a kid who looks like The Rock to portray Billy Batson.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 20, 2014, 12:34:01 am
It'll be a dual role, they'll use the same technology as that bizarre Wayans brothers movie Little Man, CGIing his head on a smaller person's body.
Title: Re: Dwayne The Rock johnson confirmed for Shazzam movie
Post by: Sky79 on August 20, 2014, 12:38:56 am
Good fucking luck finding a kid who looks like The Rock to portray Billy Batson.

Jaden Smith hahaha
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on August 20, 2014, 12:52:13 am
Billy Batson never really looked like Captain Marvel in the comics.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 20, 2014, 12:53:29 am
Eh, sometimes the idea has been that Cap looks like an older version of himself (I think Kingdom Come even had them drawn identically, because Billy was all grown up), or even sometimes Cap looks like his dad.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on August 20, 2014, 12:59:29 am
That would be a logical choice, it's just that it nearly never happened, so I wouldn't think of it as an issue if they didn't do it this time around either.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 20, 2014, 01:01:31 am
It would depend on how they're treating the Billy-Cap relationship (is Cap a separate persona sorta influenced by Billy? is Cap literally just Billy's mind but with the wisdom of Solomon?), I guess.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 20, 2014, 01:09:04 am
You're overthinking this, just cast someone that looks like the actor playing him.

A complete unknown would be best.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Japanese Jesus on August 20, 2014, 01:11:44 am
Billy Batson never really looked like Captain Marvel in the comics.

52's Captain Marvel is identical to his Billy Batson form. Pretty certain it has always been that way.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on August 20, 2014, 01:23:37 am
Shazam's got the big square jaw like good ol' Superman and Batman (compared to Black Adam's meaner, more elongated, but still square, jawline), Billy usually has a pointed chin. IINM, in N52, Billy is a bit older and more street tough or whatever, so he was probably given tougher traits, but it never struck me as "it's the same face but older" so much as "new art direction". But yeah, they probably look closer to each other in N52.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 20, 2014, 01:27:18 am
The Rock Confirms His DC Superhero Role (http://news.moviefone.com/2014/08/19/the-rock-confirms-dc-superhero-role/)

"Then again, maybe now he's leaning more toward Black Adam, as he told the AP that he is a fan of antiheroes. Either way, Johnson has been enjoying teasing fans with the news, as evidenced by this recent tweet"


 ;D
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 20, 2014, 01:28:38 am
Shazam's got the big square jaw like good ol' Superman and Batman (compared to Black Adam's meaner, more elongated, but still square, jawline), Billy usually has a pointed chin. IINM, in N52, Billy is a bit older and more street tough or whatever, so he was probably given tougher traits, but it never struck me as "it's the same face but older" so much as "new art direction". But yeah, they probably look closer to each other in N52.
Billy Batson will get chin implants when he grows up and his Captain Marvel form is merely capturing that change because magic time travel powers or something!!!

No-prize please!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on August 20, 2014, 01:43:52 am
Looked up the N52 version...
(http://t.imgbox.com/fjc7jah4.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/fjc7jah4)
Okay, they're identical. there's also the "Brave and The Bold" version that draws Billy with a much thicker face too.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Nero D. on August 20, 2014, 01:50:29 am
lantern jaws are usually reserved for grown men, it wouldn't be odd at all to see billy himself without one
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on August 20, 2014, 09:15:30 pm
The Rock is actually playing Steamboat.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on August 21, 2014, 01:52:23 am
The Rock as Captain Marvel YEAAAHHH!!! :buttrox:

And here's an interview (http://www.playboy.com/playground/view/20q-frank-miller) with the legend Frank Miller.

Quote
"When people come out with movies about characters I’ve worked on, I always hate them. I have my own ideas about what the characters are like. I mean, I can’t watch a Batman movie. I’ve seen pieces of them, but I generally think, No, that’s not him. And I walk out of the theater before it’s over."
[...]
"I’m not condemning what he (Nolan) does. I don’t even understand it, except that he seems to think he owns the title Dark Knight. [laughs] He’s about 20 years too late for that. It’s been used."
[...]
"The Dark Knight series is all from Batman’s point of view. But if you look at Dark Knight 2, you’ll see a Superman who’s much calmer than the one in the first Dark Knight. Batman and Superman are dead opposites. I love Superman. Do I love Batman more? They’re not people. They’re only lines on paper."

EDIT: Photo showing off the Superman uniform in Batman V Superman:
Spoiler: Click if you want to see... (click to see content)

It seems body painting... I don't know... :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on August 22, 2014, 03:01:41 pm
the black jacket fits the character, I am pleased with tihs development, very nineties.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on August 22, 2014, 03:13:48 pm
I bet it's a reference to Smallville when Tom Welling got confused and thought he was playing Batman, standing on top of gargoyles and wearing a black coat.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 22, 2014, 06:15:19 pm
Joseph Gordon-Levitt gave an update on the Sandman movie: (http://badassdigest.com/2014/08/21/joseph-gordon-levitt-is-still-chugging-along-on-sandman) there still isn't a script but it seems like Goyer isn't writing it (yay) but he's still involved (boo).

The article goes on to speculate that the movie might be in trouble because there's still no script, after almost a year since it was announced..
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on August 23, 2014, 02:36:44 am
I bet it's a reference to Smallville when Tom Welling got confused and thought he was playing Batman, standing on top of gargoyles and wearing a black coat.

Don't forget the   bright red,coat  (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/10300/redcoat.jpg), you know, the one that looks like it's made out of 'Fruit Roll'ups', that way he doesn't stand out.........ugh
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on August 23, 2014, 04:06:12 am
Superman rocking the mass murderer look. It fits, can't deny that.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 23, 2014, 04:10:46 am
He's already got a taste for it!!!

also, it really kills me to see shots of the Superman costume, without all the filters. It's so... bright and colorful, like it should be! It's just depressing to think about how it will be made lifeless and boring under a barrage of shitty filters. :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on August 27, 2014, 11:31:17 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-4.png[/avatar]So the latest rumor swirling around is that WB is enforcing a strict "No Jokes" policy (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/137074-warner-bros-no-jokes-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice) for all of it's DCCU movies in order to differentiate themselves from Marvel's efforts.  Because Spandex Alien Jesus vs Clown-Punching Dracula Man is super-duper serious Grown-Up stuff.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 27, 2014, 11:33:54 pm
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

holy shit they're so terrible at everything
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on August 27, 2014, 11:35:10 pm
in order to differentiate themselves from Marvel's efforts
That's right folks, let's do exactly the opposite of those other guys who make smashing successes all year long.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 27, 2014, 11:39:44 pm
They should differentiate their movies, but in ways that actually make sense and compliment their strengths. Banning jokes and terribly aping Nolan Batman isn't the way to do it, that's for sure.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Roman55 on August 27, 2014, 11:43:52 pm
Why bother putting jokes in movies that are gonna be jokes to begin with?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on August 27, 2014, 11:46:01 pm
didnt man of steel had that joke in the ending where a female soldier comments on him being really hot just a minute after you see a city completely totaled into shit?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Just No Point on August 27, 2014, 11:46:44 pm
I'm fine with this news. All I can do is hope they keep doing things to make them crappy enough that they don't pop the superhero movie bubble.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 27, 2014, 11:49:08 pm
But they're totally going to at this rate! They have too many films in development right now!!!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Just No Point on August 27, 2014, 11:54:17 pm
If they are not good it shouldn't hurt anything. It'll just make their own movies sell bad. Fun movies from Marvel shouldn't take a huge hit from their garbage unless ppl actually like them enough to want to choose to watch it or another movie.

I hope!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on August 27, 2014, 11:55:12 pm
Oh good... they are working hard to make their films fail now.
Good.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 28, 2014, 12:05:12 am
If they are not good it shouldn't hurt anything. It'll just make their own movies sell bad. Fun movies from Marvel shouldn't take a huge hit from their garbage unless ppl actually like them enough to want to choose to watch it or another movie.

I hope!
I think there's a very real danger of the market crashing for superhero movies; Marvel knows what they're doing, and in a vacuum they could probably keep it going indefinitely. But with Sony, Fox, and Warner all lumbering around with really no idea how to copy the success of Avengers, there's going to be a near constant flood of superhero movies out throughout the year, all of questionable quality. And that's a recipe for disaster.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: AerosMugen on August 28, 2014, 12:19:36 am
I don't know about the market crash, we've been flooded with superhero movies since the first Spiderman, and watching the near future it doesn't look as crowded as 2005's Elektra, Constantine, The Crow: Wicked Prayer, Son of the Mask, The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3-D, The Legend of Zorro, Batman Begins, Fantastic Four, Man-Thing, Sky High and V for Vendetta.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on August 28, 2014, 12:20:46 am
It kind of feels to me like more and more people are aware of the differences between the big players. The real Disney/Marvel movies are the good ones, the Sony/Fox Marvel movies seem to still have a good public, casual - I want to say those who watch Michael Bay movies (not caring much for the big universe and just going for the pretty picture and cool visual ideas like the time travel thing from DoFP, or Hugh Jackman), and the DC movies are the Nolan Batman movies.
There are still movie sites that think the Fox and Sony movies are done by Marvel and claim that Marvel is doing way too many movies, but aside from that, I'm under the impression that they all have their well defined public and everyone knows what they're going to watch.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on August 28, 2014, 12:34:59 am
I don't know about the market crash, we've been flooded with superhero movies since the first Spiderman, and watching the near future it doesn't look as crowded as 2005's Elektra, Constantine, The Crow: Wicked Prayer, Son of the Mask, The Adventures of Sharkboy and Lavagirl in 3-D, The Legend of Zorro, Batman Begins, Fantastic Four, Man-Thing, Sky High and V for Vendetta.
Well, to the general audience stuff like Constantine and V For Vendetta aren't known to be comic book movies (I wouldn't describe then as superhero movies in the least); of that list, I think only Fantastic Four, Elektra, and Batman would really be seen as "superhero movies", with Sharkboy and Lavagirl and Sky High being seen as superhero-adjacent, but with greater emphasis on being them being kid movies. As for the rest, Zorro is totally a superhero, he wears a fucking mask, but he's never really been considered one; The Crow and Man-Thing were too low profile; Son of the Mask isn't really a superhero movie at all).

We are gonna hit peak superhero sometime soon, Sony and Fox are going to have at least one movie out per year (Fox might have at least two); Marvel of course puts out 2 a year (and will be doing 3 in 2017), and Warner is following suit with Marvel. That's a lot of movies, and eventually the bubble will burst. It's happened to every hot genre; superhero movies will never really go away, but the amount we're getting right now is just not sustainable in the long run.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: BLACK SHAZAM
Post by: Iced on September 03, 2014, 06:05:17 pm
SHAZAM IS DEAD

Now on the great dark movie DAWN OF JUSTICE meet the anti hero the world needs , BLACK ADAM.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=122567
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GOH on September 03, 2014, 06:11:03 pm
Shazam movie, Scene 24

Black Adam: "Bob..."

Shazam: "But my name's Billy!"

Black Adam: "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS!"
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on September 04, 2014, 05:02:47 pm
http://io9.com/wb-wants-the-shazam-movie-to-be-different-which-means-1630496096


SHAZAM! now that black adam is confirmed in JLA they confirm, SHAZAM the character wont be part of the dc cinematic universe and instead standalone with another tone alltogether.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on September 04, 2014, 05:23:21 pm
It'll be about real life problems with a bit of powers thrown in, just you watch. It'll have Billy fixing his life with his newfound magical powers, rather than an actual superhero. Like some movie of a kid who befriends a robot or an alien, or a kid who finds a magic lamp.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on September 05, 2014, 01:49:50 am
Yo Bea, J, Joe Manganiello for Captain Marvel, what do you think?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 05, 2014, 02:04:08 am
now that black adam is confirmed in JLA
... ??? They say just the opposite.

But yeah, such depressing news. A terrible mix of such promising signs of hope (Captain Marvel isn't gonna get lumped in the same universe as Superman and suffer as a result! They'll focus on humor and have fun!) blended with the standard soul-sucking DC standard (the stakes have to be real! and depressing! and veiled putdowns of Marvel movies!). It's just sad to see so much promise present that is then beaten down into mediocrity or worse. Much like the casting of the Rock as Black Adam itself, I guess!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on September 05, 2014, 02:35:48 am
now that black adam is confirmed in JLA
... ??? They say just the opposite.
The Rock is still Black Adam in the JL movie, he did confirm that (Iced's post before that one). This Shazam movie will be separated in its own universe, and most likely without The Rock, that's what this is saying.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 05, 2014, 02:40:12 am
I'm pretty sure that's not the case; or at least, I can't find anything to that effect. The only information that's come out is that the Rock is Black Adam in something, and that there will be a Shazam movie that's not connected to the Batman Loves Mary Jane V. Superman: Away to the Dawnjustice movies. I think it's safe to say he'll be Black Adam in the Shazam movie, only.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 05, 2014, 02:50:26 am
Just to back up the previous post with official officialness, The Rock is only confirmed to be playing Black Adam in New Line's Shazam movie. (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/dwayne-johnson-to-play-black-adam-in-shazam-darren-lemke-to-script-exclusive-1201294338/)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 05, 2014, 07:33:17 am
This stuff isn't really DCCU (probably?) but I don't caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare unlike the MCU thread

There seems to be a Supergirl series in the works. (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/09/04/so-what-is-actually-going-on-with-supergirl-or-super-or-girl/) Not sure what continuity, if any, it will take place in, but it does seem odd if it turns out to be standalone (I think you could probably make a relatively standalone Supergirl series, with only vague references to Superman, but I doubt that's what Warner will end up doing). Oh and like Arrow, this series will have a unique title to differentiate it from other versions of Supergirl; potential titles being considered include Super, and Girl.

Which is just... ugh. Why. What's wrong with Supergirl, Jesus fucking Christ. I mean, fine, you have your show about young Bruce Wayne that's an off-brand version of Gotham Central except missing the entire point, and you call it Gotham, fine, that's perfectly cromulent. You have your young Clark Kent show called Smallville, because you don't want to call him Superboy because that'd be silly and therefore awful, fine. Whatever. Then you have your Arrow because like Mars, Green was proven to be poisonous to popularity if included in a title, and you still refuse to call Oliver Queen "Green Arrow", so fine, whatever, still stupid but not as much. But Super? Or Girl? Holy fucking shit.

Also, Arrow has cast it's Ra's Al Ghul: it's a white dude who is a former rugby player who's best known for his role in the third Riddick movie. (http://comicsalliance.com/arrow-ras-al-ghul-matthew-nable/) Now sure, casting Ra's is a tricky dilemma because, well, he's a Middle Eastern man who leads a giant terrorist organization that seeks to bring down all of civilization. So there's that. But that's no reason at all to deny the role to Middle Easterners, and is an especially terrible reason to cast a white guy with questionable acting experience as a substitute. I mean shit, at least Batman Begins had Liam fucking Neeson in the role.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 05, 2014, 07:53:32 am
liam Neeson was on board to reprise his role too. if offered. I'm still annoyed he's coming in at all tbh. Stop giving arrow everyone else's villains.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 05, 2014, 08:01:37 am
Even if Neeson was willing to work for SAG minimum wage (and I'm sure he'd be open to something like that, if he's on board reprising his role on a show on The CW of all places), he probably wouldn't have an open enough schedule for what the Arrow guys want to do with Ra's. He could probably do a few episodes, but I just can't see him taking off a whole 6 months (or however long a full season shooting schedule would be for this role, I have no idea how this stuff works!) and forgoing multiple movie opportunities for a relatively low-rated broadcast show.

I'm sure he'll be able to snag a voice over role as Ra's in some animated thing or video game, though. After all, who would turn down Liam Neeson?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 05, 2014, 08:34:03 am
not anyone who wants to live to tell the tale.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on September 05, 2014, 09:57:30 am
Stop giving arrow everyone else's villains.
It's not like Arrow has interesting villains of his own ! :P
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 05, 2014, 10:10:30 am
Well hey now, he has a few, at least; Merlyn, Constantine Drakon (I guess?... look, it's not a very big field), and best of all Count Vertigo, who is fucking great (although admittedly, that upgrade to fucking great took place in Suicide Squad, but still, he's got a great hook and powerset). And wouldn't you know it, they've all appeared on Arrow in some form. And I guess Clock King started as a GA villain before moving on to Batman, but he was pretty neat in the BTAS, so he might be worth reclaiming.

uh... who else... Onomatopoeia? Maybe? He of course is specifically designed to only work in comics, though. And then Kevin Smith ruined him as he is wont to do to... who else... Deathstroke doesn't count, I don't care what the show did, or the brief period in comics where he had a vendetta against GA. And no, not Doctor Light either, fuck that guy, and fuck that stupid storyline where he depowered cool, heroic Doctor Light. >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on September 05, 2014, 11:24:15 am
Just to back up the previous post with official officialness, The Rock is only confirmed to be playing Black Adam in New Line's Shazam movie. (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/dwayne-johnson-to-play-black-adam-in-shazam-darren-lemke-to-script-exclusive-1201294338/)

thats extremely odd the announcement made it seem like he was doing it in the bvsdoj movie.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on September 05, 2014, 11:39:23 am
On the other hand, it makes more sense, they've announced a lot of the BvS cast and they've already began filming, this announcement would be quite late for that movie - even if Black Adam was only given a minor role there (seeing how big the cast already is). But if instead he's the major antagonist of the Shazam movie that comes out a year later, it's a good timing for an announcement.
And it leaves him some room to do his usual fun acting too, as opposed to BvS where he'd just be there, big and bad, no fun allowed.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 05, 2014, 05:59:05 pm
Batman/Superman Dawn Fun Justice Party and Shazam will actually both come out in 2016 (since the former was delayed after a troubled pre-production), but yeah, BvS is already filming, there's no way to fit him into a substantial role at this point.

thats extremely odd the announcement made it seem like he was doing it in the bvsdoj movie.
It was the article's fault; the actual announcement itself was just a tweet from The Rock (do we have to call him Dwayne Johnson now, because he keeps being billed as that, but like, The Rock is such a cooler name!!!) saying he was playing Black Adam.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 09, 2014, 04:56:17 pm
Oh... oh no. No no no, Warner, don't do this to me...

Warner Bros is sending out Legion of Superhero books to screenwriters and asking for pitches, (http://www.latino-review.com/news/hot-rumor-dc-puts-legion-of-superheroes-into-active-development) likely because of the phenomenal success of Guardians of the Galaxy, and Legion is their most prominent "space" book.

For the uninformed, Legion of Superheroes is one of DC's oldest teams, debuting even before Justice League; it centers on a group of superpowered teenagers hailing from across the universe, 1,000 years in the future, who have been inspired by the example of Superman and (to a lesser extent) other contemporary superheroes, and follow his example in protecting the universe. The Legion was one of DC's biggest, best written books; moreover, thanks to its remove from the regular DC universe at large it was allowed to develop long-running storylines and have major, lasting character development, presaging the success of X-Men in the same areas.

But the Legion's lost quite a bit of its luster; it's a bit of a tarnished brand right now, at least in the comics. The reason all comes down to a series continuity issues and constant reboots: in some continuities, including the original one, a teenaged Superman (Superboy) is an occasional member of the team (the Legion has a time machine!), and it is Superboy specifically who primarily inspired the Legion; when Crisis on Infinite Earths happened, Superboy was erased from continuity, and Superman had only started superheroing when he was an adult. This left the Legion with an immense amount of stories featuring a character who no longer existed, and a team whose origin no longer made any sense. Various attempts at retconning solutions to this were ultimately unsuccessful (the Superboy the Legion knows is from a pocket universe! no wait, Mon-El inspired them, somehow!), and ultimately things got so snarled that it was decided a reboot was needed. And then another one happened, about a decade later. And then another reboot happened less than five years later, sorta bringing back the original version but not exactly, with Superboy back in place. And then New 52 happened and Superboy is gone again and now the book is canceled! All of that took quite a toll on the readership, and over nearly 30 years, the Legion went from one of DC's most popular books to an obscurity.

So in many respects it's a bit odd that Warner would chose Legion, given its far remove from most of DC stuff, and it's tortured history, but there was a moderately successful cartoon a few years ago, and Warner is no stranger to desperately hurrying along movie projects in a panic, to try and emulate Marvel's success. But god, thinking of a Man Of Steel-ized Legion movie is so fucking depressing; the Legion has almost always been a brightly optimistic book, with a future that's turned out wonderfully, even with warring alien races and genocidal supervillains. And I'm very concerned they'd take the future conceit out and set it in the present, but away from Earth, because hey look Guardians did it and time travel just isn't very realistic now is it and oh god don't do this to me please I can't take it
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on September 09, 2014, 05:03:33 pm
Quote
But god, thinking of a Man Of Steel-ized Legion movie is so fucking depressing; the Legion has almost always been a brightly optimistic book,

Wasnt a big plot point that all blacks had gone back to "africa"( actually a weirdass africa like jungle island )  where they lived secluded and away from white people like they should?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 09, 2014, 05:21:06 pm
Like a lot of the attempts by writers in the early 70s at addressing issues relating to black people (like say, that issue of Lois Lane where she turns black for a day (http://www.sadanduseless.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/black-cover.jpg), also featuring the new-before-seen neighborhood of Metropolis, LITTLE AFRICA), or even pretty much any social issue at all, the results were often well-meaning but like, pretty fucking racist! Also, it wasn't technically an island where all the black people had gone to live, it was just an island populated by descendants of a slave ship revolt. Also, the island disappeared into another dimension for most of the time or something, and was quietly dropped and ignored by later writers.

There was a great section about that sorta thing in Marvel: The Untold Story, about the new wave of writers in the 70s, the first group of writers who had grown up with comics, (obviously this was about Marvel, but the same was true over at DC) all excited to address social issues and explore heavier concepts in comics; the results of which were often not as successful as they would have hoped. Sometimes you'd get a Black Lightning or Howard the Duck out of it, but you could just as easily get that secluded island of Krypton where all the black people live (yeah that's right DC did that thing AGAIN) or Englehart's original concept for Star-Lord or the Adam Warlock as space-Jesus stories on Counter-Earth.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on September 09, 2014, 05:26:01 pm
Also DC did Steamboat even earlier then that.

It's pretty remarkable that The Falcon started out as not-stereotypical as he did. Go Marvel.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 09, 2014, 05:45:15 pm
Hell, speaking of Falcon, there was that time he was retconned to have not actually been a social worker who wanted to help people, but was actually a former pimp and drug dealer whose mind was altered by the Cosmic Cube to turn him good and implant false memories and shit. For some reason. Jesus Christ that was fucking awful.

Also wait that's right it was by Englehart!!! D:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: -Whiplash- on September 09, 2014, 05:45:53 pm
Well hey now, he has a few, at least; Merlyn, Constantine Drakon (I guess?... look, it's not a very big field), and best of all Count Vertigo, who is fucking great (although admittedly, that upgrade to fucking great took place in Suicide Squad, but still, he's got a great hook and powerset). And wouldn't you know it, they've all appeared on Arrow in some form. And I guess Clock King started as a GA villain before moving on to Batman, but he was pretty neat in the BTAS, so he might be worth reclaiming.

uh... who else... Onomatopoeia? Maybe? He of course is specifically designed to only work in comics, though. And then Kevin Smith ruined him as he is wont to do to... who else... Deathstroke doesn't count, I don't care what the show did, or the brief period in comics where he had a vendetta against GA. And no, not Doctor Light either, fuck that guy, and fuck that stupid storyline where he depowered cool, heroic Doctor Light. >:[

I read that they were going to use onomatopoeia but gave up and replaced him with that Mr. Blank Guy. (http://cartermatt.com/57628/arrow-spoilers-meet-a-new-villain-very-soon/)

 Though honestly I won't be against them actually adding him eventually. (Though I may have some bias)

Also yeah, I would agree Vertigo Is great, however they killed of the Arrow Version off Vertigo, (which I was all right with, since the REAL Vertigo was much, Much better.)

Clock king has also appeared in the show, not the TAS one, but not a bad version either, he's still obsessed with time and has everything on a schedule.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 09, 2014, 05:49:49 pm
They're gonna have another version of Vertigo, the "real" Vertio, who will be played by Peter fucking Stormare (!!!).

We can only hope he asks where is pancakes house.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 09, 2014, 06:12:47 pm
Oh... oh no. No no no, Warner, don't do this to me...

Warner Bros is sending out Legion of Superhero books to screenwriters and asking for pitches, (http://www.latino-review.com/news/hot-rumor-dc-puts-legion-of-superheroes-into-active-development) likely because of the phenomenal success of Guardians of the Galaxy, and Legion is their most prominent "space" book.

For the uninformed, Legion of Superheroes is one of DC's oldest teams, debuting even before Justice League; it centers on a group of superpowered teenagers hailing from across the universe, 1,000 years in the future, who have been inspired by the example of Superman and (to a lesser extent) other contemporary superheroes, and follow his example in protecting the universe. The Legion was one of DC's biggest, best written books; moreover, thanks to its remove from the regular DC universe at large it was allowed to develop long-running storylines and have major, lasting character development, presaging the success of X-Men in the same areas.

But the Legion's lost quite a bit of its luster; it's a bit of a tarnished brand right now, at least in the comics. The reason all comes down to a series continuity issues and constant reboots: in some continuities, including the original one, a teenaged Superman (Superboy) is an occasional member of the team (the Legion has a time machine!), and it is Superboy specifically who primarily inspired the Legion; when Crisis on Infinite Earths happened, Superboy was erased from continuity, and Superman had only started superheroing when he was an adult. This left the Legion with an immense amount of stories featuring a character who no longer existed, and a team whose origin no longer made any sense. Various attempts at retconning solutions to this were ultimately unsuccessful (the Superboy the Legion knows is from a pocket universe! no wait, Mon-El inspired them, somehow!), and ultimately things got so snarled that it was decided a reboot was needed. And then another one happened, about a decade later. And then another reboot happened less than five years later, sorta bringing back the original version but not exactly, with Superboy back in place. And then New 52 happened and Superboy is gone again and now the book is canceled! All of that took quite a toll on the readership, and over nearly 30 years, the Legion went from one of DC's most popular books to an obscurity.

So in many respects it's a bit odd that Warner would chose Legion, given its far remove from most of DC stuff, and it's tortured history, but there was a moderately successful cartoon a few years ago, and Warner is no stranger to desperately hurrying along movie projects in a panic, to try and emulate Marvel's success. But god, thinking of a Man Of Steel-ized Legion movie is so fucking depressing; the Legion has almost always been a brightly optimistic book, with a future that's turned out wonderfully, even with warring alien races and genocidal supervillains. And I'm very concerned they'd take the future conceit out and set it in the present, but away from Earth, because hey look Guardians did it and time travel just isn't very realistic now is it and oh god don't do this to me please I can't take it

was going to tl;rd but it was actually a fun read as I got into it.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 09, 2014, 06:25:32 pm
Hey, maybe they'll give it to New Line and stick it in the "Shazamverse" ("Funverse"?, "Non-Snyderverse"?)

They're gonna have another version of Vertigo, the "real" Vertio, who will be played by Peter fucking Stormare (!!!).

We can only hope he asks where is pancakes house.

Yeah that was great news, although now I'm sad that they wasted Lincoln Lee on a two-bit Joker performance.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on September 11, 2014, 05:15:28 am
New Images Of The Batmobile Hit The Web  (http://youtu.be/h0TagNb-7D4)  :brood:
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Post by: Jmorphman on September 11, 2014, 06:25:13 am
Really liking that design.
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Post by: Sky79 on September 12, 2014, 01:30:40 am
(https://i.imgur.com/irGhQqW.jpg)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 12, 2014, 07:40:45 am
So, hey, um... there's a Titans pilot waiting for greenlight on TNT. (http://deadline.com/2014/09/titans-show-dc-comics-tnt-pilot-order-833189/) It's going to be based on The New Teen Titans of course, with Dick Grayson as the lead. Also, it's written by Akiva Goldsman, so it's probably schlock.

Gotham on Fox, Constantine on NBC, Arrow, Flash, and Girl That May or May Not Be Super on CW, now Titans on TNT... Is Warner just tossing these scripts out like batarangs and just letting them hit random networks? This is nuts.
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Post by: -Whiplash- on September 12, 2014, 08:03:26 am
I'm kinda sad they didn't just put them all on CW or something and make them all connect to arrow in some way. That'd been cool.

Especially since Gotham is on Fox, might get confusing if Ra's Appears in some capacity and then we have two Ra's on TV at the same time.
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Post by: Byakko on September 12, 2014, 09:35:56 am
A Ra's in Gotham would be really terrible, unless he's just a tourist and not an actual main villain.
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Post by: Sky79 on September 13, 2014, 01:26:03 am
Girl That May or May Not Be Super on CW
Wait whaaaaaaa? no, please no you're kidding, yes?

Edit:
DAMNIT!!! (http://wegotthiscovered.com/tv/dc-supergirl-series-cw/)
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Post by: Speedpreacher on September 13, 2014, 04:40:07 am
Let's be fair, where else could it go?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 13, 2014, 05:14:03 am
Very weird that it would be on TNT, of all places.

So, roster: Nightwing is in, and Starfire and Raven are mentioned by name. Who else would get in? From the classic roster: Beast Boy seems like a shoo-in, but probably not Cyborg because he's too cool for the Teen Titans now (and that really sucks because the Beast Boy-Cyborg friendship is like by far the best part of any iteration of Teen Titans) and is too busy being boring and useless on Justice League; while it has been said (by someone, don't remember who) that all of the TV shows will be separate from one another and from the movies, if the rumors of the upcoming movies are anything to go by, the DC movies can use pretty much any character they want (they'll have two Flashes in leading live action roles), but the TV shows will be restricted to whatever the movies won't be using, whatever the other TV shows aren't using, and/or whatever the character is in the orbit of the specific show's character franchise. Kid Flash thus seems very unlikely because of the Flash show, but Wonder Girl seems possible, maybe, if (former) sidekicks like Nightwing are allowed.

But it seems like they'd want at least one or two more people, maybe Bunker, so they can knock out two minorities at once (gotta think like a studio exec even though just typing that makes me wanna barf)? Aqualad (Kaldur'ahm)? Danny Chase, Jericho, and Baby Wildebeest??????????

So, hey, um... there's a Titans pilot waiting for greenlight on TNT. (http://deadline.com/2014/09/titans-show-dc-comics-tnt-pilot-order-833189/) It's going to be based on The New Teen Titans of course, with Dick Grayson as the lead. Also, it's written by Akiva Goldsman, so it's probably schlock.
Well... didn't he do well in the executive producer role on Fringe (yet another show I'm kicking myself for not getting on-board with and still need to catch up with)? But then again the most recent thing he did was write and direct that weird Winter's Tale movie, which looked (and apparently was) absolutely terrible, so... who knows?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Saikoro on September 13, 2014, 05:25:30 am
Damn Jmorph, you really know your history. That's really cool. Seriously.

With all of the reboots throughout the years, wouldn't it make sense to just, say, take the elements that worked best and make a trilogy out of a smaller portion of a story?? While not a hardcore comic buff, I am one for good storytelling. I feel that studios are going to run with what sells and shoehorn waaaaay too much into a short runtime. I also think Batman VS Superman is being put under a goddamn microscope to the point that nobody will be satisfied with it when it comes out. There's still hope because Zach Snyder is capable of really good stuff. Watchmen was awesome in my opinion and 300 was simply badass.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 13, 2014, 05:40:06 am
I wonder how deathstroke will play in this when he's way more driven in titans than anything when he first started. Seeing as how he's in arrow I would be more than annoyed if he didn't show up at some point.

Also I don't see why not have cyborg in the show, I know he's justice league now, but this isn't part of the movie universe, as I think some characters that are showing up in the tv series have also shown up on movies(or will, like Ra's) They seem to be two separate things.

Plus it would be stupid not to capitalize on the teen titans cartoon's popularity as well, as the most well known cast as of pre 52; Robin,Raven,starfire,cyborg,beast boy,wonder girl(Donna troy) super boy, kid flash. I don't see super boy or kid flash at all, or arsenal/red arrow. I can see Artemis and possibly impulse though. The rest of the most known cast I see coming, including cyborg.

I hope this does well, behind X-men the titans are my most loved series and they haven't been done justice in a while.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 13, 2014, 05:43:33 am
Well... didn't he do well in the executive producer role on Fringe (yet another show I'm kicking myself for not getting on-board with and still need to catch up with)? But then again the most recent thing he did was write and direct that weird Winter's Tale movie, which looked (and apparently was) absolutely terrible, so... who knows?

As much as I love the episodes he (co-)wrote on Fringe, he'll never wash the stink of Batman and Robin off of him. Never.

(yet another show I'm kicking myself for not getting on-board with and still need to catch up with)

Ahh, that explains why my Lincoln Lee reference fell flat. Fringe is great, watch it! Just like Battlestar, you've already done yourself a disservice by not being a part of it when it was airing. The speculation (Huge discussions about color usage! That turned out to be valid!), the emotion, the nail-biting fear that Fox could cancel it at any moment...


With all of the reboots throughout the years, wouldn't it make sense to just, say, take the elements that worked best and make a trilogy out of a smaller portion of a story?? While not a hardcore comic buff, I am one for good storytelling. I feel that studios are going to run with what sells and shoehorn waaaaay too much into a short runtime. I also think Batman VS Superman is being put under a goddamn microscope to the point that nobody will be satisfied with it when it comes out. There's still hope because Zach Snyder is capable of really good stuff. Watchmen was awesome in my opinion and 300 was simply badass.

The problem is that Warner is looking to do Justice League with the same buildup that Marvel did for Avengers, that's why they're trying to doublestuff everything into one movie.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 13, 2014, 05:58:53 am
I'm still convinced that if DC's movies were being run by people who were competent they'd be able to build up a JL movie in far, far less movies than it took Marvel, simply because of the brand recognition they have with their core Trinity (Wonder Woman, sadly, to a much, much lesser extent than Superman and Batman, but still far more than most of the movie Avengers before their own movies came out). They could just put out a Trinity movie that seeded the idea of teaming up, establish the idea that there are multiple superheroes running around, and maybe do a solo movie for one other hero, and the actual JL movie could just quickly sketch the remaining heroes' origins. If nothing else, GotG certainly proved that you can assemble a team of complete unknowns with the need to laboriously explain each and everyone of their origins, and have it all work!

I wonder how deathstroke will play in this when he's way more driven in titans than anything when he first started. Seeing as how he's in arrow I would be more than annoyed if he didn't show up at some point.

Also I don't see why not have cyborg in the show, I know he's justice league now, but this isn't part of the movie universe, as I think some characters that are showing up in the tv series have also shown up on movies(or will, like Ra's) They seem to be two separate things.
I get the sense that they might not be able to use Deathstroke at all, given that Arrow's already used him. And DC is still laboring under the delusion that people can't tell the difference between different versions of characters in different media. Such arbitrary rules are nothing new to DC (who remembers the Bat-embargo)! DC seems to have really shied away from the notion of Deathstroke as a Teen Titans villain at all; it seems like since Identity Crisis they've done nothing but shout from the rooftops that he is the biggest of big deals, he can take out the whole Justice League be scared of him he's so badass etc. etc.

As for Cyborg, DC has really been pushing him as a JL member and it really seems like the only reason he's allowed to be on Titans Go is because they wanted the same lineup as the 2003 cartoon. And it's looking like anything that's not already claimed as by a show that's going to show up in a movie is completely off-limits (to the point where Arrow can't even mention Wayne Enterprises in a blink-and-you'll-miss-it newspaper headline). It's so, so, dumb, but I have to consider it as a strong possibility.

Plus it would be stupid not to capitalize on the teen titans cartoon's popularity as well
We... it IS DC and Warner Bros!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... :( :( :(

to be more specific, I am almost certain they'll try and distance this show from the cartoon as much as humanly possible, because this is gonna be a realistic and dark take on a bunch of teenage sidekicks getting together to live in a giant T.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on September 13, 2014, 06:13:20 am
The show simply isn't going to work without Cyborg,-But- the suite alone would be costly production wise, and I can't see them taking the Smallville way out again.

It all just screams 'bad idea'.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 13, 2014, 07:12:54 am
you can make it work without cyborg, he didn't show up until the 2nd batch of titans or 3rd, I can't remember which version was that horrible team that all died minus like one.

And if this show doesn't have deathstroke I don't think I can watch it, he was such a huge and awesome part of titan lore and dc not using him is really just not catering to it's titan fans. This is the problem I had with arrow, and it's stealing other hero's villains, and I like that show.

Dc is horrible with coordination, if they done it right, they could have spun titans out of arrow, and had deathstroke find his way over there. I mean flash already exists in this arrow world. Guess it's because of the network crap, this is why marvel is so much better at all of this.

I want to give this a chance, but I am so worried it's going to be bad.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 13, 2014, 07:26:06 am
you can make it work without cyborg, he didn't show up until the 2nd batch of titans or 3rd, I can't remember which version was that horrible team that all died minus like one.
I don't recall there being any major Titan deaths until after the New Teen Titans era began (and the closest thing to "everyone dies but one" for Titans is that shitty setup book for Winnick's Adult Titans run that killed off a random new Titans team, which included Power Boy [he had a chest hair window, why did they kill him? :(], and there were a some but not a lot at the end of Wolfram's first run, I guess); in fact the only thing that's really coming to mind is the newcomers from the Justice League Detroit team dying (except for Gypsy) in that final arc of JLA that DeMatteis wrote to wrap up the Detroit era and set up JLI.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on September 13, 2014, 03:17:12 pm
Guess it's because of the network crap, this is why marvel is so much better at all of this.
Not network crap, The CW itself is a Crap Network for DC to get this started. I agree, there is no sensible reason why this couldn't be glorious. But DC is badly mismanaged right now.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 13, 2014, 05:04:36 pm
The CW is actually the perfect network to do this, it's owned by Warner. That means less money to air it, so as long as it has a passionate audience it can stay on for years, giving them plenty of time to build a sound universe. Constantine's gonna be in danger of cancellation from day one, Gotham from day two, Titans has a four year life EVEN IF it's successful based on every other TNT show.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 13, 2014, 05:16:04 pm
you can make it work without cyborg, he didn't show up until the 2nd batch of titans or 3rd, I can't remember which version was that horrible team that all died minus like one.
I don't recall there being any major Titan deaths until after the New Teen Titans era began (and the closest thing to "everyone dies but one" for Titans is that shitty setup book for Winnick's Adult Titans run that killed off a random new Titans team, which included Power Boy [he had a chest hair window, why did they kill him? :(], and there were a some but not a lot at the end of Wolfram's first run, I guess); in fact the only thing that's really coming to mind is the newcomers from the Justice League Detroit team dying (except for Gypsy) in that final arc of JLA that DeMatteis wrote to wrap up the Detroit era and set up JLI.

they weren't major, because the team wasn't around long, I just remember most of the team dying off.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Saikoro on September 13, 2014, 07:01:46 pm
But DC is badly mismanaged right now.

I'm still convinced that if DC's movies were being run by people who were competent they'd be able to build up a JL movie in far, far less movies than it took Marvel.

These above two comments is what frightens me. While I'm no comic buff, DC has some truly fantastic material on their hands from what I've heard through here and from comic buff friends of mine have told me about. It seems that DC is trying to play catch up with Marvel regardless of the cost, and that cost is film quality and fanbase. There was that shit period of terrible Marvel movies that could have been great, but were disastrous. Daredevil and Ghost Rider were atrocities. Spider-Man 3 was even worse. Now I'm sure that won't be the case for BvS, you still can't help but worry about how these films will turn out. While it's great to see Wonder Woman get attention and Batman evolving in style to what Frank Miller envisioned, everything feels shoehorned in since DC is shooting for what's popular right now and merely stuffing it into 120 minutes of runtime.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 13, 2014, 07:12:35 pm
it's not even what's popular right now, it's more of what they think is. And they are wrong.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Saikoro on September 13, 2014, 09:16:57 pm
it's not even what's popular right now, it's more of what they think is. And they are wrong.

I concur.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 14, 2014, 08:26:37 am
The CW is actually the perfect network to do this, it's owned by Warner. That means less money to air it, so as long as it has a passionate audience it can stay on for years, giving them plenty of time to build a sound universe. Constantine's gonna be in danger of cancellation from day one, Gotham from day two, Titans has a four year life EVEN IF it's successful based on every other TNT show.
It's seriously so weird this is on TNT, I mean, Teen Titans is full of stunningly beautiful 20-somethings with great abs, it's got all the prerequisites needed to be a CW show!

they weren't major, because the team wasn't around long, I just remember most of the team dying off.
Oh wait, I got a guess: Team Titans?

While it's great to see Wonder Woman get attention
I wouldn't even call it that; DC's third biggest, well-known superhero, the most popular female hero of all, is making her film debut as a sidekick in a Batman and Superman movie. And they're prioritizing a freaking Shazam movie over a Wonder Woman one, and have already made a fucking Green Lantern movie before a WW one, and not even the one people know (John Stewart), but fucking boring ass Hal Jordan. To so totally ignore that you have a very well known property in favor of much, much lesser known ones, it's just absolutely insane!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 14, 2014, 07:59:30 pm
It's kinda strange that Titans aired in TNT (maybe, if the pilot passed).

But i'll wait to see the result of this. Since that Titans is one of my favorites superheroes groups.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Saikoro on September 14, 2014, 08:32:36 pm
I wouldn't even call it that; DC's third biggest, well-known superhero, the most popular female hero of all, is making her film debut as a sidekick in a Batman and Superman movie. And they're prioritizing a freaking Shazam movie over a Wonder Woman one, and have already made a fucking Green Lantern movie before a WW one, and not even the one people know (John Stewart), but fucking boring ass Hal Jordan. To so totally ignore that you have a very well known property in favor of much, much lesser known ones, it's just absolutely insane!

This goes back to what sells. For whatever reason, DC feels like Shazam will 1-up WW, so *bam* here we have WW as a guest character and Shazam getting his own feature film. It should be the other way around. Why would Shazam sell more than WW anyhow!?

The idiots in charge should be replaced with business savvy, hardcore fans who know their shit. Seriously.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 14, 2014, 09:16:28 pm
Why would Shazam sell more than WW anyhow!?

I tried to understand this Saikoro. Really hard and sad to see that WW don't get more attention them Shazam. She's an superheroine icon (or THE superheroine icon).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Saikoro on September 14, 2014, 09:19:50 pm
She's an superheroine icon (or THE superheroine icon).

I couldn't help but think of this awesome spoof with you saying that.



Watch from 1:00 on to see what I mean. The entire thing is equally hilarious and well done though.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 14, 2014, 09:28:32 pm
I couldn't help but think of this awesome spoof with you saying that.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8iDFG6d734[/youtube]

Watch from 1:00 on to see what I mean. The entire thing is equally hilarious and well done though.

hehehe, i remember this spoof! Really hilarious! :laugh:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 17, 2014, 07:11:02 am
OK so apparently they're working on an adaptation of Neil Gaiman/Mike Carey's Lucifer over at Fox, (http://www.newsarama.com/22153-another-dc-comics-adaptation-being-developed-at-fox.html) and... no fucking way. C'mon. They're not making a fucking show about the fucking devil. No goddamn way, the outrage it would generate wouldn't be worth the trouble.

... they can't make it, I don't want them to. Lucifer was such a fantastic creation in Neil Gaiman's Sandman, and Mike Carey's Lucifer spinoff series only deepened the character and was the only Sandman spinoff to carve out its own unique identity in its excellent exploration of faith and theology. This is just too goddamn depressing to consider.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on September 17, 2014, 12:38:27 pm
its a buddy cop flick, with god as the hardass funny boss that assigns lucifer , the cynical cop, to work with a new angel solving crimes and locking up demons.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 17, 2014, 10:18:31 pm
They already gave the plot description, if you're going to bullshit up a series from that at least follow the description >:[

it's basically where Lucifer ended up at the end of Sandman, right? But the actual Lucifer series by Mike Carey immediately abandoned that (not because it was bad, it's just unsuitable for an ongoing series) to go on a dizzyingly complex theological tale exploring Creation and Free Will.

They're gonna turn all that into another fucking detective show. :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Saikoro on September 18, 2014, 06:58:10 pm
....and then cancel it after half of a season. Thanks Fox!! :grrr:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 18, 2014, 11:53:32 pm
....and then cancel it after half of a season. Thanks Fox!! :grrr:

Typical of Fox.

And the pilot will be the creator/executive producer of Californication... Please Fox, no. :sad3:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 21, 2014, 12:03:12 am
The Supergirl show has been picked up (http://tvline.com/2014/09/19/supergirl-tv-show-cbs-cast/) by CBS (which is... very odd) and will be called Supergirl and not something incredibly stupid, like Girl or Super or some shit. Judging from the plot description, they're going for something similar to Silver Age Supergirl (which was seriously fucked up, Superman meets the only other survivor of Krypton, his own cousin, and immediately decides to make her to live in an fucking orphanage and to hide her powers because he doesn't want to risk his secret identity and wants a "secret weapon", sooooo fucking weird); in the show, it sounds like Supergirl has lived on Earth for a while, hiding her powers from the world, for some reason, before eventually debuting as a superhero in her 20s. Superman is referenced by name in the description, so he might pop up a few times but I doubt he'd be a regular, or even recurring.

And Warner is trying to get Fury director David Ayer to helm a Suicide Squad movie, (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/warner-bros-circling-david-ayer-for-adaptation-of-dc-comics-suicide-squad-1201308883/) which... look. You have one job for this. One goddamn job. Cast C. C. H. Pounder as Amanda Waller. Cast C. C. H. Pounder as Amanda Waller. Cast C. C. H. Pounder as Amanda Waller. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDICNzM3-QE) Don't screw this up >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Eddie Hunter on September 21, 2014, 12:25:40 am
Jmorph is probably gonna hate on me but i prefer Sexy Waller(a.k.a New 52 Amanda Waller) over Fat Waller.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 21, 2014, 12:31:14 am
Young, thin Waller is literally (and not figuratively) missing the entire point of Amanda Waller! Someone as thin as a twig can't be feared as "The Wall"! >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on September 21, 2014, 12:46:40 am
Young, thin Waller is literally (and not figuratively) missing the entire point of Amanda Waller! Someone as thin as a twig can't be feared as "The Wall"! >:[

This. SO MUCH FUCKING THIS!
Amanda Waller needs to be old and large. She is supposed to be scary and awesome.
Young and thin Amanda Waller is stupid. >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 21, 2014, 12:53:53 am
Jmorph is probably gonna hate on me but i prefer Sexy Waller(a.k.a New 52 Amanda Waller) over Fat Waller.

I don't think it became clear to me why Thin Waller is bad (other than "it's change, I hate it") until Arrow. Amanda Waller is a force of nature and power and you're meant to feel that a soon as she appears. If she's young and beautiful like the majority of the main characters you just kind of gloss over her because she doesn't punch things or shoot laser beams from her hands.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 21, 2014, 12:58:01 am
Indeed; her creator, the all-around amazing writer John Ostrander, said exactly the same thing. (http://www.comicmix.com/2014/03/16/john-ostrander-waller/)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 21, 2014, 02:29:44 am
Oh, right. There's some other news, good and potentially worrying. First: there's confirmation that the upcoming DC animated movie Justice League: Gods And Monsters is being executive produced by DCAU mastermind Bruce Timm, which is good news!

Now here's the worrying stuff: Machinima has just picked up a 3 part miniseries based on that movie, called Justice League: Gods And Monsters Chronicles. What "based on" means, specifically, is unclear. What is known is that this miniseries will take on an exiting and innovative new approach to those DC superheroes: a "much darker version" of those superheroes, (http://www.avclub.com/article/machinima-making-new-justice-league-cartoon-bruce--209364), an approach never before used anywhere, ever, an approach whose very utterance fills people with dread, an approach that will never ever get tired or used poorly. Hooray!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 21, 2014, 02:41:49 am
ugh, more dark and gloomy dc, no thanks. Bruce timm can't even save this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 21, 2014, 02:45:16 am
The thing is, Timm only seems to be involved with the movie, it remains to be seen if the movie will be the same way and/or if the movie and the miniseries share a universe.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 21, 2014, 02:48:49 am
I hope that's the case, Dc, has been nothing but horrible disappointment after disappointment. the animated movies for the most part have been the only shining light. is this another new 52 movie? :/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 21, 2014, 03:23:20 am
Nah, it's just another grimdark alt-timeline thing.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 24, 2014, 07:27:06 am
So that Teen Titans show might take place in the same continuity as Arrow and Flash; (http://comicbook.com/2014/09/23/titans-tv-show-could-be-part-of-arrow-and-flash-universe/) it certainly helps that, unlike Constantine and Gotham, all three shows will air on WB-owned networks.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 24, 2014, 07:59:42 am
Yea I heard this, and it at least makes me breath a sigh of relief regarding deathstroke. I'm guessing Aresenal\Red Arrow will be the bridge between Arrow and TT.



Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on September 24, 2014, 10:02:01 am
Aresenal\Red Arrow
I think he was already referred to as Arsenal in one of the recent descriptions of S3.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on September 24, 2014, 10:06:20 am
I know, but I'll always think of him as red arrow anyway.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on September 30, 2014, 02:35:00 am
I've always hated the name Red Arrow, Arsenal at least gives him some distance from being Green Arrow Jr.


a new Batman V Superman: DaVVn of JVstice set photo:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Byt85WtCMAANDCA.jpg)
well I'm super glad they're finally doing what we've all wanted out of a Superman movie: a sad depressed Superman that everyone hates.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on September 30, 2014, 02:44:07 am
It'd bother me if they didn't have this, after the MoS movie. Not that it's any good that it came to this, but clearly it'd be even worse to do MoS and then not go this route. Eh, in a way, I guess they played straight into that classic storyline of humans being mad at superheroes and wanting to kick them out because they break more stuff than they save, and they even gave them a reason to do that... Of course let's just not even mention the fact that those storylines are always a big sack of shit.
... Hey, maybe it's actually a movie that leads into a Justice Lords universe movie ! And then in the actual Justice League movie, the classic universe is going to pop in and break everything. ... yeah, right.

Ditto on Arsenal > Red Arrow. It's a rather unique identity.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mechy on October 09, 2014, 05:22:04 pm
Well atleast it's adressing the problem of seemingly nobody giving a shit about the fact that Supes caused roughly 20 + 9/11 of damage in the last movie.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 11, 2014, 08:02:32 am
Latino Review (http://www.latino-review.com/news/huge-dc-movie-news-update-braniac-justice-league-suicide-squad) is reporting that Braniac just may be the villain of this Justice League movie that we'll just assume is going to happen regardless of the success of the other movies. Just so.

Which is interesting, to say the least. I think Braniac is a villain that's too personal to Superman, but I can't deny he basically fulfills the role that would have been wasted on Darkseid of "Space Conqueror with lots of soldiers/minions to fight". Could be better, could be worse, so as usual with most news about these movies, my reaction is "Meh."
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 11, 2014, 08:04:44 am
Well atleast it's adressing the problem of seemingly nobody giving a shit about the fact that Supes caused roughly 20 + 9/11 of damage in the last movie.
I don't know if straight up ignoring it would be better, but I'm so sick of sad Superman who is feared and hated because it's missing the entire goddamn point of the character.

Brainiac is rumored to be the villain of the Justice League movie. (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=109047)

Also from that link, a rumor about the Suicide Squad movie's line-up, which is supposed to include:

All in all, a fairly interesting roster, but the lack of Bronze Tiger makes me sad, and I feel like Nightshade would be more interesting than Jewelee, but I guess they only want one straight-up heroic person on the team maybe? I also am surprised that Harley Quinn isn't on the team, but maybe the Warner brass was afraid just dumping her into the mix without establishing the Joker was too much? I dunno, I thought she was a pretty good fit for the team, at least in Assault on Arkham and not stupid shitty New 52 Suicide Squad.


EDIT: maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan I spent too much time typing up shit no one's gonna read about Suicide Squad and got scooped!!!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 11, 2014, 08:07:43 am
Which is interesting, to say the least. I think Braniac is a villain that's too personal to Superman, but I can't deny he basically fulfills the role that would have been wasted on Darkseid of "Space Conqueror with lots of soldiers/minions to fight". Could be better, could be worse, so as usual with most news about these movies, my reaction is "Meh."
Yeah, definitely. I'm not opposed to the idea in general (DCAU Brainiac made a very credible threat for the Justice League, but that was after an numerous solo Superman stories), and I can't imagine they'll spend much time on the Superman/Brainiac conflict, what with having to introduce the rest of the JL. But yeesh, leagues better than generic, shitty, boring  Darkseid!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on October 15, 2014, 06:37:18 pm
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20141015006276/en/Warner-Bros.-Details-Strategic-Content-Plans-Time#.VD6dTdR4oWg

Terrible, TERRIBLE news.
Gal Gadot "Wonder Woman" film set to be released in 2017.

Edit:
Even worse news: “Justice League Part One,” directed by Zack Snyder, with Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill and Amy Adams reprising their roles (2017)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on October 15, 2014, 08:22:14 pm
Recently I saw Man of Steel on TV and as much I loved the battles (soooo DBZ :D) everything else was dull and just plain bad. Plot was confusing and I shallow. They tried too hard to make this film deep and meaningfull and it turned out to be pathethic and confusing. I felt like they cut some parts out of the stoiry and that's why it was bad. This movie should be twice as long so maybe it could be better and story progressing more naturally. I disliked how they tried turn Clark in some cheap copy of Jesus Christ. All these religious references really felt weird in Superman movie.

Some characters were just plain useless. They barely showed Metropolis, Laurence Fishbourne didn't have anything to do except standing there static. I hoped for Kevin Costner to show some acting and all he did were few pathethic scenes and his death was just laughable. Henry Cavill is good actor and he proved that in The Tudors but wow here he was emotionless. The only moment I see him in his old shape, showing some emotions was scene where he killed Zod. And as much as I adore Amy Adams her Los Lane was very generic character. And that kiss scene came out of nowhere. No chemistry at all. Not to mention she is getting too old for this role. I mean in Man of Steel I already saw wrinkles on her face. She will be 44 by the time that JL movie will be out and it will be getting only worse with each movie. For Film series like these they should hire younger actors so they won't look like grandparents by the time series ends. Just see what happened with Roger Moore when he played James Bond in his last Bond movies.....

The only good parts were the fights and Russel Crowe as Jor-El. He was so badass, cool and believeable.

As for destruction thing Snyder went more far than Michael Bay and that saying alot. I guess masses love seeing chaos & destruction. Even my inner child was jumped with joy despite the fact it didn't fit to Superman at all.  This fad of making mindless blockbusters won;t go away soon and that makes me sad, that's why I only watch these movie on TV. It's good there is still independent scene full of good movies.

Defintely weakest Superman movie of all. Even Superman Returns was better.

5/10
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 15, 2014, 08:28:49 pm
http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20141015006276/en/Warner-Bros.-Details-Strategic-Content-Plans-Time#.VD6dTdR4oWg

Terrible, TERRIBLE news.
Gal Gadot "Wonder Woman" film set to be released in 2017.

Edit:
Even worse news: “Justice League Part One,” directed by Zack Snyder, with Ben Affleck, Henry Cavill and Amy Adams reprising their roles (2017)
(http://media.comicbook.com/uploads1/2014/10/NA-109401.jpg)
I'm sure there's no way this many comic book movies of questionable quality will cause, I don't know, some kind of crash or something. At least a Wonder Woman movie is coming out before fucking Aquaman the goddamn movie

also Ezra Miller was cast as the Flash (he's really young but supposed to be a good actor) and Jason Mamoa was confirmed to be Aquaman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 16, 2014, 12:41:28 am
This is the toughest looking picture of Ezra Miller I could find:

(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/starcrush.com/files/2012/12/Ezra-Miller-6.jpg)

The best thing I can say about him is that he's good at playing little shits I hate? (He was in Californication as "teenage boyfriend" and We Need to Talk About Kevin as "Evil mass murdering teenager who did it for the lulz")
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 16, 2014, 12:54:14 am
Brainac is indeed apparently the villain of Justice League Part One (http://badassdigest.com/2014/10/15/zack-snyder-remains-king-of-the-dc-movieverse-is-directing-justice-league-2/) and Green Lantern will be held off until the end of the movie; when he shows up he'll tell the Justice League about the true threat, Darkseid, who I'm sure will be written well and not at all like he has been used in the new 52.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 16, 2014, 05:42:35 am
David Ayer (writer of Training Day, director of End of Watch and Fury) is directing the Suicide Squad movie (http://thedissolve.com/news/3617-david-ayer-to-direct-2016s-suicide-squad-movie/)

and apparently Will Smith is being eyed for Suicide Squad??? (http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=109359)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on October 16, 2014, 07:01:07 pm
Oh my god, "gritty" is literally the second word they use to describe the movie, and that's only because the first word is "A."  Everything is fucking "gritty" these days.

 :wall:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 16, 2014, 11:08:26 pm
Well... I dunno, Suicide Squad is one of the very few comic book properties for whom "gritty" is an appropriate tone. It is, after all, a series about a team of usually-murderous supervillains forcibly recruited under pain of death to perform life-threatening, oft-hopeless missions by a cold, corrupt, and uncaring government, and whose members have a pretty high mortality rate!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 16, 2014, 11:13:29 pm
Yeah, the last thing you'd want to hear about is a Paul Feig directed Suicide Squad. I'm more worried that they're casting Will Smith because I can't think of who he'd play. Commander Flagg?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on October 17, 2014, 02:02:00 am
I am worried about who they will cast as Amanda "The Wall" Waller.
Hopefully not another eye candy twig. Amanda needs to be on the heavy side and intimidating.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 17, 2014, 02:04:44 am
Yeah, the last thing you'd want to hear about is a Paul Feig directed Suicide Squad.
... now I kinda want to see that. Like if it was all banter before and after a mission or something, that could maybe work!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 18, 2014, 12:55:52 am
I am worried about who they will cast as Amanda "The Wall" Waller.
Hopefully not another eye candy twig. Amanda needs to be on the heavy side and intimidating.

Cast her voice actress,-

Spoiler: Carol Christine Hilaria Pounder (click to see content)

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on October 18, 2014, 02:51:22 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discorddunno_zps297811b9.png[/avatar]So the latest rumors are saying that Robin is also going to be in Batman Vee Superman:  The Quest for that Avengers Money, because of reasons.  Except it's not the usual Robin, it's Carrie Kelley and she'll be played by Jena Malone (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/batman-v-superman-is-jena-malone-playing-female-robin-1201332852/), because of further reasons.

I don't even know any more.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: QuickFist on October 18, 2014, 03:01:56 am
I don't even know what to post.
Just....da fuq?
I-I-I-I don't even....*sigh*
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 18, 2014, 03:03:02 am
I'm not opposed to the idea, save that it's clear they're not even trying to make this anything other than TDKR, which is about the fucking end of Batman you stupid brain dead hacks not the start of a franchise goddamn it even Frank Miller couldn't make TDKR into a franchise without devolving into abject insanity which is really saying something considering Frank Miller holy shit

...Ahem. I'm not opposed to the idea, save that I'm opposed to the idea.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on October 18, 2014, 11:03:39 am
I am worried about who they will cast as Amanda "The Wall" Waller.
Hopefully not another eye candy twig. Amanda needs to be on the heavy side and intimidating.

Cast her voice actress,-

Spoiler: Carol Christine Hilaria Pounder (click to see content)

Now, see, this would be a great casting.
Which is why I find it very unlikely to happen. We got Gal Gadot for Wonder Woman after all... :|
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 19, 2014, 01:40:17 am
'Batman v. Superman' Grip Department rumors Blue Beetle and Booster Gold (http://www.examiner.com/article/batman-v-superman-grip-department-spots-blue-beetle-and-booster-gold)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 19, 2014, 01:45:07 am
... All those casting rumors, it's only going to be a big group shot of "vision of the future", won't it. Or all the heroes of Earth jumping in on a fight for a couple of seconds just before the big bad wins, like a "look at all those good guys all around the Earth USA ready to unite to fend off the mean monster, it's a big world country after all".
At this point, even giving everyone a single line of dialog and 10 seconds of screen time as they show up here and there through the movie, à la Expendable, can't possibly work - it would only make it worse. But hey, they had a Wayne Entreprise satellite show up "as an easter egg" in MoS, so they're  highly likely to do the same kind of "wink" again.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 19, 2014, 03:28:37 am
With this movie essentially being Dark Knight Returns I have to assume all these cameos save Wonder Woman are going to be people looking at Batman fight Superman on a TV screen somehow.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 19, 2014, 03:37:34 am
That's only one part, not all of the movie. Brainiac is supposed to be the main villain.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 19, 2014, 03:41:36 am
You're confusing it with Justice League. Brainiac is the main enemy for that movie, not this one (although I'm sure he'll cameo).
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 24, 2014, 08:55:08 pm
Rumor is Warner Bros is looking for a female director for the Wonder Woman movie (http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2014/10/24/warner-bros-sets-sights-on-female-directors-for-wonder-woman/), which, Jesus Christ Marvel get your shit together already, don't let DC beat you on this. >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: QuickFist on October 24, 2014, 09:05:03 pm
First thing I support in a long, long time about DC CU
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on October 27, 2014, 10:11:39 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordfffuuu2_zpsa52eed70.png[/avatar]Jesus Craptastic Christ. 

Quote
Rumors are surfacing online about the finer details of The Dark Knight’s battle armor in Batman V. Superman: Dawn of Justice. In a rumor from Batman-News.com, the armor used to combat Superman will take many visual cues from Batman: The Dark Knight Returns’ design. This matches what was shown at San Diego Comic-Con earlier this year. The rumor however, also says that Batman’s armor will be laced with Kryptonite and will fire missiles. While director Zack Snyder has not yet introduced Kryptonite into the DC Cinematic Universe, he teased in an interview last year that the element didn’t not exist.

http://comicbook.com/2014/10/27/batman-to-reportedly-wear-kryptonite-laced-missile-firing-armore/

:wall:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on October 27, 2014, 10:50:51 pm
Please, no.  :sick:
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 28, 2014, 12:50:51 am
Rumor is Warner Bros is looking for a female director for the Wonder Woman movie (http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2014/10/24/warner-bros-sets-sights-on-female-directors-for-wonder-woman/)


First thing I support in a long, long time about DC CU

Whats wrong with you two?

Why the hell would gender be a criteria for being a good director? You should always pick the best person for the job. So even if you're a better director, you are not qualified unless you've a va-JayJay, yeah, that's not sexist at all.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 28, 2014, 01:15:24 am
There is a very good reason, but I am more interested to see if someone else can come up with it, except jmorphman, he most likely is already thinking of that same reason.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 28, 2014, 01:29:57 am
Whats wrong with you two?

Why the hell would gender be a criteria for being a good director? You should always pick the best person for the job. So even if you're a better director, you are not qualified unless you've a va-JayJay, yeah, that's not sexist at all.
You're so right, if only they could get more directors like visionary director Zack Snyder, not waste our time with no-name lady directors like Kathryn Bigelow, Mimi Leder, and Michelle MacLaren? I mean, have any of them even won an Oscar?

We all know that a movie about Wonder Woman, first female superhero and feminist icon, really should be directed by a dude.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: GOH on October 28, 2014, 01:33:10 am
You know what they say.

Behind a great feminist superhero there's a great man director.

Or something like that.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 28, 2014, 01:36:55 am
Think this may be my favorite episode of Gotham yet, can always trust Ben Edlund to deliver.

Oh yes, Wonder Woman b8. I think the goal of choosing the cast and director of a movie should always err on the side of whoever has an interesting story to tell with the character. At this point, I'm more interested in seeing the story of Wonder Woman through a female lens rather than through a male lens. That's boring.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Iced on October 28, 2014, 01:39:08 am
You're so right, if only they could get more directors like visionary director Zack Snyder, not waste our time with no-name lady directors like Kathryn Bigelow, Mimi Leder, and Michelle MacLaren? I mean, have any of them even won an Oscar?

We all know that a movie about Wonder Woman, first female superhero and feminist icon, really should be directed by a dude.

whats wrong with you , geeeeez.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 28, 2014, 03:04:57 am
I think the goal of choosing the cast and director of a movie should always err on the side of whoever has an interesting story to tell with the character.
Agreed

At this point, I'm more interested in seeing the story of Wonder Woman through a female lens rather than through a male lens. That's boring.

Wait, what? Seriously?

It's called "Gender Equality" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_equality) boys. Are you people actually trying to justify gender bias? There is also the screenplay, editing and others to consider, the right actress is also a big issue here.

So, if two people produce two different takes on the same character, the ultimate reason wont be the director's vision of the character, their research or their particular style, it's the fact that one of them is a girl.......Nice.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 28, 2014, 03:14:20 am
The trick here is that we can all guess what a random director would do. You can imagine all the Oscar-winning directors coming to helm this movie, you can claim all you want that if it's a good director then it can make a good movie even if it's a man, but we now that WB isn't going to do that. We now that the guys WB could bring in are much more likely to do more Snyder-like crap ; it will be generic Man of Steel-like #385752. At the very least, having a woman do it gives it slightly better odds for how well written/presented the main character will be - or at least, better odds that WW (the character) won't be shittily written and super generic and everything.
Also shut up already.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 28, 2014, 03:19:05 am
At the very least, having a woman do it gives it slightly better odds for how well written/presented the main character will be - or at least, better odds that WW won't be shittily written and super generic and everything.

Better odds? Ha! so you are saying a woman will do a better job, because it's a woman.

Wow man



Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 28, 2014, 03:20:06 am
Wait, what? Seriously?

It's called "Gender Equality" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_equality) boys. Are you people actually trying to justify gender bias? There is also the screenplay, editing and others to consider, the right actress is also a big issue here.

So, if two people produce two different takes on the same character, the ultimate reason wont be the director's vision of the character, their research or their particular style, it's the fact that one of them is a girl.......Nice.
Yeah, uh, coming up with a shortlist of director picks and restricting it to female directors (who are a woefully underrepresented group (http://www.avclub.com/article/there-are-fewer-women-employed-in-hollywood-than-t-106941), and that isn't going to change unless steps like these are taken, because things are somehow getting worse for women in film), most of whom are leagues better than the majority of existing superhero movie directors, to direct the first major female superhero movie in ages isn't exactly a problem.

But then again, they could literally announce anything and you'd somehow find fault with it, because it's your entire schtick. Anything that isn't exactly the same as what came before is anathema to you.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 28, 2014, 03:22:07 am
so you are saying a woman will do a better job, because it's a woman.
No, dumb shit. I'm saying there's better ODDS (that a woman will represent a woman in a better light). Not that it WILL happen. Obviously there are men who are perfectly able to show women in a good light. But it's just as obvious that these men do NOT WORK AT WARNER. We KNOW the guys Warner would hire for this movie, if they hired a man. And they do NOT do that well, we KNOW that.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Niitris on October 28, 2014, 03:24:39 am
It's called "Gender Equality" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_equality) boys. Are you people actually trying to justify gender bias?

Actually... yes.

One of the central themes of Wonder Woman is to represent females in a positive light. It's not so much about "well a man can't do it as well" or anything to the likes, more than it is "let's have a woman lead the direction of a movie about a superheroine." Makes sense looking at it that way.

Not all concepts involving gender discrimination are inherently bad.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Roman55 on October 28, 2014, 03:27:46 am
Five bucks says Warner Bros Corporate impose so much shit on the movie that having a woman director won't do much to help it be good or successful
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 28, 2014, 03:33:00 am
Pffffff!

It's a job interview people, nothing more. It's a job can be done by BOTH sexes, all races and sexual orientations. The key factor is having the skills necessary to do the best job.

Picking someone based on any other factor is the definition of discrimination.

Edit:
Five bucks says Warner Bros Corporate impose so much shit on the movie that having a woman director won't do much to help it be good or successful

Damn right, thank you Roman!

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 28, 2014, 03:34:22 am
Five bucks says Warner Bros Corporate impose so much shit on the movie that having a woman director won't do much to help it be good or successful
I have no doubts the movie will be terrible, but there's always an off chance for it to be good, I guess, as long as Goyer and Snyder have no role in it. At the very least it will provide a really big, much needed boost to a director's career (save for Bigelow)

although I am hoping they don't grab either Bigelow or MacLauren, cause Marvel needs to grab them for the Black Widow and Captain Marvel movies, respectively >:[
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 28, 2014, 03:35:40 am
Yep, good ep of Gotham tonight, nice cliffhanger keeping that interest up.

Five bucks says Warner Bros Corporate impose so much shit on the movie that having a woman director won't do much to help it be good or successful

That's even odds, but at least it won't be an excuse anymore. Kind of like if the Finches screw up the comic in a few months.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 28, 2014, 03:38:53 am
The interviews with the Finches have been giving off such Giant Size Man-Thing (wait shit wrong company!!!) sized warning signs that I think it's all but certain to be a disaster.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Roman55 on October 28, 2014, 03:40:10 am
as long as Goyer and Snyder have no role in it.
I wish I had your optimism.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 28, 2014, 03:50:16 am
The interviews with the Finches have been giving off such Giant Size Man-Thing (wait shit wrong company!!!) sized warning signs that I think it's all but certain to be a disaster.

I think it's incredibly interesting that when we've finally got books moving back quality wise to pre-52 levels Wonder Woman is probably going to be moving right back where she was quality wise as well. Such is life.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 28, 2014, 03:54:52 am
 @ Jmorphman

You're right, when you stand back and look at the situation as a whole, it's like we're all looking at victorian 'flying machine' that doesn't stand a chance at getting off the ground, let alone fly properly.
   (http://medleyana.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/failed-flying-machines-o.gif)


We're all just waiting to watch it crash, dissecting the reasons why it just can't work  :disappointed:


Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 28, 2014, 03:57:41 am
It's a job interview people, nothing more. It's a job can be done by BOTH sexes, all races and sexual orientations.
Again, you're ignoring the Warner factor. What you're saying is generally correct - just not in the case of Warner and the DC movies. If this was any original superhero movie with a female lead, done by anyone, no one would demand a woman to direct it just for the sake of having a woman, and a man could very well do fine just as much as a woman - or forcing a woman on it could just as well result in something terrible, depending on those hypothetical man's and woman's talents. Talent would be the only thing we would (and should) care about in that hypothetical situation.
But this is Warner, and this is a DC movie. What you're saying just holds no ground. We know what they'd do.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 28, 2014, 04:10:14 am
I wish I had your optimism.
Well heck, DC's doing pretty well on TV (I guess? I dunno I couldn't get into Arrow at all and Gotham sounds wretched and I was so excited for iZombie but they changed so much and there isn't even going to be any gay wereterriers or teenage ghosts from the 60s so why even look forward to it) without Goyer and Johns!

Wait.

What's that?

David Goyer is attached to a show about pre-explosion Krypton? (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/10/27/man-of-steel-writer-david-goyer-attached-to-new-tv-show-its-name-krypton/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus)

Oh. Ohhhhhhhh. Oh no. Oh no no no no no.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 28, 2014, 04:15:11 am
Watch Flash, it's everything that anyone could possibly want from a superhero series. It's Arrow without the baggage of its first season. Trust me on this.

Unless you don't like the Flash as a character, but then if that's the case nothing can help you. Abandon all hope.


David Goyer is attached to a show about pre-explosion Krypton? (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/10/27/man-of-steel-writer-david-goyer-attached-to-new-tv-show-its-name-krypton/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus)

Oh. Ohhhhhhhh. Oh no. Oh no no no no no.

Oh dear. Well, this TV-verse was nice while it lasted I suppose.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Roman55 on October 28, 2014, 04:19:05 am
Isn't the TV series production stuff ran by other people though? That would explain why Arrow and Flash are alright (not interested enough to watch Gotham but I hear it's better than expected).

David Goyer is attached to a show about pre-explosion Krypton? (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/10/27/man-of-steel-writer-david-goyer-attached-to-new-tv-show-its-name-krypton/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=gplus)

Oh. Ohhhhhhhh. Oh no. Oh no no no no no.
I weep

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 28, 2014, 04:23:50 am
Flash isn't too great IMO. It's good, it's got the good things that Arrow learned, but it's super corny, with lots of clichés and the awkwardness that goes with it - it went too far in the opposite of the spectrum Arrow started at. In short, it's a bit on the same format as Smallville was at (supervillains everywhere), but it's justified and it works.
Arrow, starting from the last third of the first season, is good and gets better with Deathstroke in season 2 and S3 is fine so far, Flash is nice but it's still walking a fine line for now (it hasn't gone into "too much" territory yet so I'm waiting to see more), and Gotham started on a very slippery slope but it's getting better quickly enough.
And yes, Arrow and Flash are from the CW Network which has nothing to do with anyone in the movies, I don't think the movies guys get to touch those, and Gotham is yet another network.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 28, 2014, 04:25:51 am
That's irrelevant, it doesn't matter who *stops*  Hmmmmmm

Can you expand on that a bit? What dose said  " Warner factor" mean in your eyes? To me-

The people at DC frankly have no clue what to do with these iconic characters right now, I think they're really just throwing $hit at the wall to see what sticks at this point.

With Warner, 'it is, what it is', they'd have these two play poker for two hours and they'd care less as they know it'll make money, because that's what their bottom line is.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 28, 2014, 04:29:41 am
Can you expand on that a bit? What dose said  " Warner factor" mean in your eyes?
Man of Steel, Justice League, thinking Nolan's Dark Knight was the second coming of Jesus and trying to redo the same with their version of Avengers, trying super hard to get in on the Avengers train even years after Avengers came out, and doing all the wrong things (no humor ! dark and gritty ! Batman versus v Superman !) In a word, this entire thread.
I don't really know if those are Warner's or DC's fault, but I'm more saying that to point at the movies that have come out so far. Replace Warner with DCCU in my posts if you think it's more appropriate.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Niitris on October 28, 2014, 04:31:47 am
All of this makes me wish I had TV readily available (no cable where I'm currently staying).

Yeah there's tube and streaming sites but I can't fit PC time for it along the hundreds of other things I do.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 28, 2014, 04:33:01 am
Flash isn't too great IMO. It's good, it's got the good things that Arrow learned, but it's super corny, with lots of clichés and the awkwardness that goes with it - it went too far in the opposite of the spectrum Arrow started at. In short, it's a bit on the same format as Smallville was at (supervillains everywhere), but it's justified and it works.
Arrow, starting from the last third of the first season, is good and gets better with Deathstroke in season 2 and S3 is fine so far, Flash is nice but it's still walking a fine line for now (it hasn't gone into "too much" territory yet so I'm waiting to see more), and Gotham started on a very slippery slope but it's getting better quickly enough.
And yes, Arrow and Flash are from the CW Network which has nothing to do with anyone in the movies, I don't think the movies guys get to touch those, and Gotham is yet another network.

You and me are in agreement on Gotham and Arrow, but this isn't exactly big news. But I gotta say that the corniness of Flash is the best part to me. The Flash is like the poster boy for comic book silliness.

But this week's episode will be the real litmus test, because how they handle Captain Cold is gonna be how they handle the Rogues. And how they handle the Rogues is going to make or break this show.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 28, 2014, 04:35:55 am
Well said DKDC, Agreed.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 28, 2014, 04:38:09 am
But I gotta say that the corniness of Flash is the best part to me. The Flash is like the poster boy for comic book silliness.
Hm, makes sense. I'll keep an open mind on that then. I felt it was walking on eggs after being introduced in Arrow, I hope we get more interactions between Oliver and Barry to make this "complete". Stephen Amell seems to have a great vision of their relationship, from a recent interview from I don't know which Comicon I saw a few days ago, so I'm looking forward to that.

edit
... well I just started watching Gotham episode 6, and we get a "ten years ago" and younger Bullock was hero-of-justice Gordon and had his own cynical Bullock. ... This is extremely shaky, they're playing a very dangerous game. At least the guy who plays Penguin is great, and the guy who plays... Maroni ? The actor who played Angel Batista in Dexter, he's pretty good too. Worth keeping an eye on, but it's always on the verge of making you roll your eyes up.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on October 28, 2014, 06:49:27 am
Set Photos  (http://www.inquisitr.com/1566217/batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-set-photos-reveal-bruce-wayne-scene/)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on October 28, 2014, 10:14:49 am
I like that they are trying to go for a female director for Wonder Woman. That would bring some fresh ideas that could make the film watchable.
Now, if only we can get Gal Gadot replaced with a rock we could get a more expressive and imposing Wonder Woman.

I am so desperate that I think even Hayden Christensen would make for a better and more expressive Wonder Woman. And I compare his acting skills unfavourably to that of a rock or a cardboard cutout...
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 29, 2014, 12:57:34 am
vin diesel on a wig would make for a better wonder woman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on October 29, 2014, 01:13:51 am
vin diesel on a wig would make for a better wonder woman.

Darn right he would.
I'd approve of Vin Diesel on a wig Wonder Woman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on October 29, 2014, 01:26:12 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-4.png[/avatar]Casting rumors for Suicide Squad include potential rewrites to add Harley Quinn. (http://www.movieweb.com/suicide-squad-movie-harley-quinn-cara-delevingne)

Because sure, you can have Harley Quinn without there being a Joker.  That makes fucking sense.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Mgbenz on October 30, 2014, 04:25:15 am
Hasn't she had multiple solo titles before? Also I remember her teaming up with Poison Ivy or something.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 30, 2014, 04:41:27 am
Yeah, quickly after the cartoon introduction, when the Joker wasn't around, she soon got a lesbian yay phase with Ivy, and some years back the comics threw in Catwoman for good measure. I think it depends on the version of Harley you keep of her, though : the harlequin fool from the cartoon easily has phases without Joker, but the homicidal nutcase often falls back on having Joker ram his way into the story sooner or later like she can't survive long enough without him. ... Not that the former doesn't have that too, actually.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 30, 2014, 05:41:22 am
Hmm, well, I don't think it's a huge issue to put Harley in there. I mean sure, it's gonna be weird as shit to have a version of Harley without a corresponding version of the Joker; I guess they could always have a cameo or something, but the lack of a pre-established relationship is pretty odd. Which is true of the idea of doing a Suicide Squad movie so soon in the first place, without building up any of the villains who will make up the squad. Not that Captain Boomerang, Deadshot, and the rest need whole movies where they're the villains, but... I dunno, just seems weird; Assault on Arkham's Squad was mostly newcomers, save for Harley and Deadshot, but Harley was used as an emotional anchor, because everyone watching that movie knows what Harley's deal is, because they've played the games (I mean, probably. Mostly). This movie doesn't really have that luxury.

But just the general idea of Harley in the Squad is perfectly fine, I think it's probably the best place for her in comics, really (notwithstanding terrible nu52 Suicide Squad). Harley partnering up with the Joker in the comics is just something that can't be sustained for that long (and eventually did fall apart, with Harley becoming sorta heroic even, afterwards); cartoon Joker had just the right balance of murderous and wacky to have Harley as his sidekick last indefinitely, but in the comics he's simply too murderous and Harley needs to be able to be empathized with to work as a character. Putting her in Suicide Squad with a bunch of other sympathetic villains like Deadshot (and of course, some not not so sympathetic ones, because it is Suicide Squad) is a pretty great idea.

Watch Flash, it's everything that anyone could possibly want from a superhero series. It's Arrow without the baggage of its first season. Trust me on this.
I mean, I dunno, it just looked all kinds of off and ugh Barry (and they crib most of his personality from Wally, and jeez, they're even stealing his love interest, an actress for Linda Park was just cast!!! (http://www.avclub.com/article/flash-casts-its-linda-park-211029)) and double ugh retconned murdered mom backstory and also they keep doing that thing Arrow does where they name a minor or single episode character after a comics character but never really do anything with them deserving of their namesake and/or kill them off (I mean how the fuck do you waste Kate Spencer, Arrow???); better to just use a new character than resorting to (in my opinion) cheap fanservice.

I know I'm probably being weird about this.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on October 30, 2014, 06:13:26 am
(I mean how the fuck do you waste Kate Spencer, Arrow???)
Eh, that was from the first season, when they tried to go the "everyone is normal" route with only doing oblique namedrops (like at the very beginning, "oh Laurel Lance your voice shall be heard through the city !" and Thea being nicknamed Speedy). She was introduced as a random attorney, and when they started backpedalling hard on that, they probably couldn't figure out how to fix her, so they just said ah fuck it let's kill her off. It's still better, and it's still going well on the road to embracing superheroes on a League of Assassins background right now.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on October 31, 2014, 02:58:54 am
First casting call for Supergirl (http://comicsalliance.com/cbs-supergirl-tv-series-casting-kara-danvers/):
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For Kara Zor-El aka Kara Danvers, the show is eyeing Caucasian females, age 22 to 26, to play 24. As the series’ mythology goes, Kara at age 12 was sent from her dying home planet of Krypton to Earth, where she was taken in by the Danvers, a foster family who taught her to be careful with her extraordinary powers. After repressing said skills for more than a decade, Kara is forced to bust out her super moves in public during an unexpected disaster. Energized by her heroism for the first time in her life, she begins embracing her abilities in the name of helping the people of her city, earning herself a super moniker along the way.

The other lead role currently being cast is that of 26-year-old Alexandra “Alex” Danvers, Kara’s gorgeous, brilliant, science-minded foster sister. Growing up, Alex was partly jealous of her sibling yet also fascinated by her abilities, prompting Alex to learn as much as she could about alien anthropology, sociology and culture. Today, Alex works for a secret government organization and, alongside her heroic sis, will face many challenges, both mundane and super.
:-\

So, she's not named Linda Danvers, because a Superman character can't have two different names, it's too hard to remember.

also I guess Superman doesn't exist in the show? Maybe? That's all kinds of weird.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on November 01, 2014, 12:17:03 am
Spoiler: New Pics (click to see content)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on November 02, 2014, 09:45:16 pm
More casting calls for Supergirl (http://tvline.com/2014/10/31/supergirl-casting-jimmy-olsen-cat-grant/)

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CAT GRANT | The project is eyeing females in their 40s, open ethnicity, to play the founder of CatCo, a media conglomerate that Cat built from the ground up. Kara (Supergirl’s mild-mannered alter ego) will work as a personal assistant to Cat, who is described as “J.Lo by way of Anna Wintour.”

JAMES OLSEN | In his late 20s/early 30s, open ethnicity, James is a smart, worldly and (duh) attractive photographer for CatCo. Though an alpha male, his salt-of-the-earth nature elicits a huge ol’ crush from Kara.

WINSLOW ‘WYNN’ SCHOTT | This twentysomething tech whiz/Comic-Con stalwart toils for CatCo as a programmer, unaware of his own (toying?) potential. Unware of her secret, he carries a torch for Kara, whom he lives next door to.

HANK HENSHAW | As an upstart CIA agent, Hank grew obsessed with intergalactic intel. Now in his 40s and lording over the DEO (Department of Extra-Normal Operations), he is on high alert when Supergirl reveals herself, worried that her otherworldly abilities pose a threat to humankind.
... they seem to be trying to make this Supergirl show independent and less derivative of Superman, and they're doing that by taking a good deal of Superman's supporting cast and transplanting it to basically the Daily Planet but on the internet?

jesus christ
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on November 02, 2014, 09:51:07 pm
James Olsen, attractive, alpha male, Kara has a crush on him. ... Right.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on November 02, 2014, 09:59:34 pm
Oh jeez, I missed that part. Alpha male Jimmy Olsen? What the fuck?
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 02, 2014, 10:03:20 pm
Yeah, I was really starting to look forward to this being a show about Supergirl, but this is clearly a show about gender-swapped Superman. You've got her Lex (they weren't even subtle about that one), her Lois, her Perry, they even threw in a Chloe from Smallville to be eternally friendzoned. Very disappointing.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on November 02, 2014, 10:05:43 pm
they even threw in a Chloe from Smallville to be eternally friendzoned.
If you mean the Schott guy, apparently that's Toyman.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on November 02, 2014, 10:08:28 pm
Toyman (or "Wynn" which is just ugh) sounds like he could be either an ally or eventual foe, I'm not sure which.

Probably ally, if only because attacking people with killer toys isn't grim and realistic at all!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 02, 2014, 10:10:50 pm
they even threw in a Chloe from Smallville to be eternally friendzoned.
If you mean the Schott guy, apparently that's Toyman.

Oh, I'm aware of the character he's supposed to be I'm just laying out what he is.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on November 02, 2014, 10:14:42 pm
Ah, you mean the friendzone thing, I thought you were talking about the original character insertion.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on November 08, 2014, 07:53:23 pm
Jared Leto might be playing the Joker in the Suicide Squad movie (http://www.thewrap.com/jared-leto-eyed-to-play-the-joker-in-wbs-suicide-squad-exclusive/) (though unlikely to be part of the team, probably just for Harley's backstory)

also the Rock says Shazam will be fun and independent from the DCCU movies (https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/528772642531454976)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bea on November 08, 2014, 07:59:16 pm
Jared Leto might be playing the Joker in the Suicide Squad movie (http://www.thewrap.com/jared-leto-eyed-to-play-the-joker-in-wbs-suicide-squad-exclusive/) (though unlikely to be part of the team, probably just for Harley's backstory)

also the Rock says Shazam will be fun and independent from the DCCU movies (https://twitter.com/TheRock/status/528772642531454976)

The first one is... an interesting pick. Could be fitting and could work nicely.

Now, on the second one, I am working on believing it. A DC Super Hero Film that will involve fun? Must be some sort of dream and I will wake up any minute now.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on November 08, 2014, 08:02:56 pm
I don't know, a superhero movie with jokes and fun? It could never work. Warner's  for the DCCU is the only way to make these kinds of movies. (http://comicsalliance.com/warner-bros-no-jokes-dc-comics-movies-superman-justice-league/NO JOKES plan[/url)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 08, 2014, 08:23:47 pm
It's likely he was asked to play Shazam, not the other way. And he refused unless it was a fun movie.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 08, 2014, 08:50:38 pm
Jared Leto might be playing the Joker in the Suicide Squad movie (http://www.thewrap.com/jared-leto-eyed-to-play-the-joker-in-wbs-suicide-squad-exclusive/) (though unlikely to be part of the team, probably just for Harley's backstory)


You know, I could get behind that. I think he could do a really good job in the role, even if it's not going to be a big one. Unless they're adapting Assault on Arkham I guess.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: SNT on November 10, 2014, 01:27:50 pm
And she's cast.

http://collider.com/harley-quinn-suicide-squad-movie-margot-robbie/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on November 11, 2014, 01:47:11 am
"She's got the look", and the voice.

I approve
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on November 13, 2014, 04:45:42 pm
Bland slab of beef Jai Courtney is being eyed for Deadshot (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/jai-courtney-eyed-for-batman-villain-deadshot-in-suicide-squad-exclusive-1201354892/); in addition, the role Tom Hardy is being sought was revealed to be Rick Flag, leader of the Suicide Squad, and Will Smith's role is rumored to be... Captain Boomerang?!?!?!

... that's absolutely crazy, but he could definitely pull it off. He definitely needs to have an Australian accent, though.

Aclaimed, two-time Emmy winning director Michelle MacLaren (of Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead, and Game of Thrones fame) is the frontrunner for the Wonder Woman director's chair. (http://www.thewrap.com/wonder-woman-director-search-breaking-bads-michelle-maclaren-emerges-as-frontrunner/) I really wanted her to do a Marvel movie but hey if anyone could make lemonade out of Snyder and Goyer's shitty, shitty lemons, it would be her. :(
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Sky79 on November 13, 2014, 11:21:37 pm
Captain Boomerang?!?!?!

James Remar please.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Japanese Jesus on November 13, 2014, 11:24:51 pm
Harley Quinn AND Joker in Suicide Squad? I pray this film never comes to fruition.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 14, 2014, 04:31:23 am
Will Smith's role is rumored to be... Captain Boomerang?!?!?!

Whaaat??? o.O
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on November 14, 2014, 04:44:06 am
Harley Quinn AND Joker in Suicide Squad? I pray this film never comes to fruition.
wellllllllllllllllllllll

It would work if the Joker wasn't actually on the Squad itself, but I doubt they're trying to get Leto for just a cameo (the only way I could see that happening is if they were planning on using the Joker later on in a solo Batman movie, but there's no room on the schedule probably), it would have to be a meatier role. And heck, Assault on Arkham had Harley on the Squad and Joker as the main antagonist basically, and that worked pretty well!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Byakko on November 14, 2014, 05:04:28 am
Yeah, either main antagonist or the third party running interference and shitting up the mission, that can easily work.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 14, 2014, 05:11:19 am
they are going to ruin this and make him a mentor character.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 14, 2014, 05:24:19 am
they are going to ruin this and make him a mentor character.

Please no man! Just made Joker like (or closely) in Assault on Arkham.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Japanese Jesus on December 03, 2014, 05:31:39 am
Eyebrows Delevingne being in Suicide Squad makes me want to break my comics adaptation boycott.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on December 03, 2014, 08:38:19 am
So apparently cast is confirmed.... dunno how I feel about Will Smith as Deadshot.
Will be interesting to see how Rick Flag fits in, since he hasnt been featured in any Suicide Squad stories in a long time, as far as remember.

Also.. Boomerang? Really? Why not Captain Boomerang? is it so hard to use their proper names?

Source (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/suicide-squad-cast-revealed-jared-leto-to-play-the-joker-will-smith-is-deadshot-1201368867/)
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Neocide on December 03, 2014, 09:13:01 am
the are going to confuse viewers who watch the tv series that have these same characters, DC's live action is all over the place. Also from what I hear, Oprah is their first choice for Amanda Waller :/
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Tyrant Belial on December 03, 2014, 09:20:39 am
That's a horrible choice.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: DatKofGuy on December 03, 2014, 09:39:30 am
the are going to confuse viewers who watch the tv series that have these same characters, DC's live action is all over the place.
I'm pretty sure those same people are then gonna be confused by a black Deadshot.

Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on December 03, 2014, 07:26:33 pm
On the one hand, that was the argument behind the Bat-embargo (when the Justice League cartoon couldn't use any Batman characters besides Batman himself, because The Batman [another cartoon, with its own continuity] was airing at the same time, because they didn't want to "confuse viewers") and that was pretty bullshit because even kids can tell that kinda thing, but live action often does bring up that kind of confusion (like people who thought Batman Begins was a prequel to Batman 89, and whatnot)

Also.. Boomerang? Really? Why not Captain Boomerang? is it so hard to use their proper names?
It's not grim and realistic enough!

That's a horrible choice.
I dunno, I think it's pretty inspired; Oprah's an amazing actor, she could definitely pull it off. Not that there's any chance in hell that it would happen, because I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that Oprah will sign on to a superherovillain movie franchise.

Octavia Spencer and Viola Davis are also in the running, and those are also great picks. I'm so glad they're not doing 20 year old supermodel Waller.

Will Smith can definitely do Deadshot, especially if they play up the deadpan humor aspect; Tom Hardy and Margot Robbie are both great, no worries there; I still dunno how to feel about Jared Leto in general so who knows with that; Jai Courtney is pretty awful at acting and I don't know how he's now attached to three fucking action franchises; and I've never heard of Cara Delevingne and she hasn't been in much so who knows with that. Glad they're including Enchantress though, she's great, but they better not kill her! We need a Shadowpact movie, I want to see Detective Chimp on screen. >:[

so uh yeah, mixed feelings all around, like everything involving the DC movies. They've got a mostly fantastic cast and a surefire premise, I really don't want them to screw it up. Suicide Squad deserves the best!

and speaking of mixed feelings all around; Michelle MacLaren (an absolutely fabulous director of acclaimed episodes of Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead) is directing Wonder Woman (http://www.avclub.com/article/michelle-maclaren-officially-signs-direct-wonder-w-212305), and will be directly involved with developing the script. Basically, the best case scenario for this. But... I dunno, I wanted her to do a Marvel movie!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Legendary DeMoNk@I on December 04, 2014, 02:13:34 am
@Jmorphman:

haha yeah you already hit us with the Info on the walking dead director doing wonder woman info twice. You posted it earlier too  ;)



well heres something i saw yesterday too which i was surprised to see
http://badassdigest.com/2014/12/02/find-out-which-batvillain-has-a-cameo-in-batman-v-superman/?utm_content=buffere15c2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on December 04, 2014, 02:21:21 am
@Jmorphman:

haha yeah you already hit us with the Info on the walking dead director doing wonder woman info twice. You posted it earlier too  ;)
I totally forgot about that previous post but the one I just posted came a week later and was when it was made official so it still counts!!!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Legendary DeMoNk@I on December 04, 2014, 02:39:14 am
@Jmorphman:

haha yeah you already hit us with the Info on the walking dead director doing wonder woman info twice. You posted it earlier too  ;)
I totally forgot about that previous post but the one I just posted came a week later and was when it was made official so it still counts!!!

ah ok ill take that haha
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Person Man on December 04, 2014, 04:39:36 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordbutterfly.png[/avatar]KGBeast confirmed for Bat Pilgrim vs The World (http://comicsalliance.com/kgbeast-to-appear-in-batman-v-superman-maybe-be-the-best-thing-in-it/) because why the actual fuck not at this point.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on December 04, 2014, 04:42:53 am
It's just gonna be one of those things where it's an off-screen or exceedingly minor on-screen character who is only mentioned and probably killed in some explosion or something.

S&M clad Soviet assassins with gun-arms just don't get any respect these days.
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Jmorphman on December 08, 2014, 03:42:49 am
John Ostrander, the creator of the Suicide Squad (and one of my all time favorite comic book writers ever) did an interview about his thoughts on the casting (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=57562); he thinks they're all good choices, but was most excited about the possibilty of Oprah Winfrey as Amanda Waller. He also wants a Stan Lee type cameo, and they better fucking give it to him!!!
Title: Re: DC Cinematic Universe: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice, an actual movie title
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 08, 2014, 03:57:47 am
I think I'm more excited for this movie than I am for Law and Order: BvS. Whoever they've got casting this is going all out.
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