Art & Entertainment => Gaming => Topic started by: videoman on January 08, 2013, 12:51:00 pm
Title: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: videoman on January 08, 2013, 12:51:00 pm
The next generation of the Pokemon series will be released worldwide on October 2013! Also it will be the first Pokemon game in full 3D (with more gimmicks)!
Dear lord, how long has it been since the Release of Pokemon Black and White?
Is it too soon?
But I guess I'm all set with the 3DS!
Yeah more Pokemon!
It'll be 3 years and a month as of October 2013. That sounds about right, considering Game Freak had 3DS devkits for a long time, and Black and White 2 were made with a small team and lots of content recycling. Not to mention they have other studios that assist on the 3D Pokémon graphics.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 08, 2013, 01:27:22 pm
Considering the quick release, I'm betting they started work on this as soon as BW1 came out. Anyway, ALL OF MY HYPE.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 08, 2013, 01:28:10 pm
Wow, they're running out of ideas for the titles. And is it me, or is the Grass Pokemon similar to the Water pokemon in this current gen?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on January 08, 2013, 01:31:46 pm
It's probably meant to be cartesian coordinates, X Y (and maybe a Z a couple years later) because it's a 3DS game using fully polygonal graphics. Better than colours for once.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 08, 2013, 01:33:10 pm
Yeah, I did realise it was for the coordinates. That's why I said they're running out of ideas for the titles. But I didn't think of the "Z" possibility, which is unfortunately quite realistic.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on January 08, 2013, 01:48:18 pm
Pipe dream time: 'Z' would be available as a boxed product or cheaper DLC expansion to owners of X or Y. After how much content New Super Mario 2 got, I bet Nintendo will sell something for Pokémon.
We now return to the real world.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: sweetfire13 on January 08, 2013, 02:13:36 pm
It's probably meant to be cartesian coordinates, X Y (and maybe a Z a couple years later) because it's a 3DS game using fully polygonal graphics. Better than colours for once.
I thought it was referring to genetics, but okay. Looks like I'm buying a 3DS.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on January 08, 2013, 02:48:38 pm
Wow i don't hate all the starter Pokemon first time since Gen 2 for me, Fennekin gonna be my choice.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on January 08, 2013, 02:53:22 pm
This game looks so damn good visually, but it's barely been enough time since Black and White, what the hell. Love the water starter's design.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on January 08, 2013, 02:55:28 pm
I guess I'm getting this on first day!
Pikachu, here I come!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Koop on January 08, 2013, 02:58:20 pm
I am hyped for this. It looks really really good.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Person Man on January 08, 2013, 03:18:25 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordintrigued.png[/avatar]Oh wow, that does look good. I always tell myself I'm done with Pokemon, but then the next set of games comes out and I get too curious for my own good. I'll probably end up picking this one up too.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 08, 2013, 03:55:35 pm
So looks like they're finally ditching sprites despite what their claims that they would never do that.
Also what the fuck, simultaneous international releases on October this year?
That means Gen 5 only lasted 3 years, 2 months in japan and... 2 years, 7 months in the US? Thats the shortest generation next to Gen 1 (2 years, 1 month in US). Oh well, I blame the fact that B/W/B2/W2 were released so late in the DS's lifespan for its early demise.
Also, people hoping for Ruby/Sapphire remakes got trolled hard.
EDIT: Just realized Gen 2's lifespan in the US was 2 years, 5 months. Okay, so Gen 5 is the 3rd shortest, big whoop.
EDIT 2: anyone else think of some horrid frankensprite of Dewott and Nuzleaf after seeing Chespin's design?
EDIT 3: Just noticed the DNA Double Helix in the japanese logos. Then I looked at the Dewott & Nuzleaf comparison I made earlier. I see what you did there Gamefreak
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Zero-Sennin on January 08, 2013, 04:14:18 pm
Lucky me, this game comes out at just around the best time. I'll have to save up a bit though.
Praying hard that we don't get Fire/Fighting again :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 08, 2013, 04:15:24 pm
Also felt that it's so early for a Gen 6. And being released simultaneously worldwide? I barely had 4 months with BW2!! Motivates me to rush.
Still, feels like a ported Coliseum/Gale of Darkness for the GCN with the absence of sprites, unless the PC Box somewhat adds them. Hopefully they'll update Global Link and Dream World for Gen 6. The designs for the starters are pretty cool to me, though Fennekin looks like a recolored Zorua.
Why do I feel that the "X" legendary is related to the Musketeer Trio? "Y" Legendary is MissingNo. [/dream]
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on January 08, 2013, 04:17:45 pm
First time in ages since I loved the look of all the starters.
Fennekin!!! X3
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 08, 2013, 04:24:39 pm
Praying hard that we don't get Fire/Fighting again :(
Oh god dont even mention it
But I'm curious as to whether they'll change the type chart this time (Poison SE against Water, cmon).
Looking at the competitive angle, I wonder how many Pokemon that are currently OU are going to drop out when Gen 6 hits. I mean, in Gen 5 we had so many previously top tier pokemon for multiple generations fall down to UU or lower (Suicune, Zapdos, Swampert, hell even Mew fell from ubers to UU). I'm starting to wonder if Skarmory's time as OU is finally up (with stuff like Ferrothorn and Gliscor more or less replacing its role from Gen 2 & 3 as physical wall). Still too early to tell though, but I get the feeling a good number of stuff is going to become bottom of the barrel while the usual shit (Tyranitar, Scizor, Terrakion, Blissey namely) are going to stay in OU.
Wow i don't hate all the starter Pokemon first time since Gen 2 for me, Fennekin gonna be my choice.
That's two of us. In fact, it's something I always do. I always pick a Fire Pokemon as starter. It's been like that since Charmander from the first Pokemon game.
Foooooortunately, it doesn't look like the starter is going to be Fire/Fighting. But then again, Torchic didn't seem like a Fighting type, and then he turned out Fighting after the first evolution.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 08, 2013, 04:58:57 pm
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I wonder if the extra work they'll have to put on this game (animating over 700 models) will have an impact on the number of new pokemons
I'm pretty sure most of the models are recycled from Battle Revolution and Pokedex 3D Pro with minor adjustments, for older gens.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on January 08, 2013, 05:08:06 pm
I actually thought they'd use the models in Pokedex 3d Pro. They proved me wrong.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on January 08, 2013, 05:46:13 pm
I actually thought they'd use the models in Pokedex 3d Pro. They proved me wrong.
They probably are, but with different textures because of the shaders and there's no self-shadows.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Darkflare on January 08, 2013, 05:57:52 pm
Looks like they're going back to the younger heroes for this one. I kinda liked Hilbert/Hilda/Nate/Rosa being older than 10.
Hm...they didn't reveal the new Eeveelution yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 08, 2013, 06:01:08 pm
So theres already speculation talk on the Smogon forums that the starter trio might have secondary typings that creates an inverse type advantage cycle, specifically Grass/Dark, Fire/Psychic, and Water/Fighting. Might be cool if this actually happens just so the rival can't dick you out by taking the starter with a type advantage against yours (since all 3 starters will now have stab type advantage against the other two).
Edit: Or, it could be someone just fucking around with that old Dark/Psychic/Fighting starter trio that was "leaked" for Gen 4.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Blackmore on January 08, 2013, 06:22:38 pm
The trainer in the video starts out by looking in a mirror with glasses on his head...
...and at some point, he has no glasses in the overworld compared to the others.
This might be a shot in the dark, but maybe this might mean some character customization? :ohmy:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: raremew on January 08, 2013, 06:28:18 pm
Lol I havent even finished black and white yet. I prefer the older pokemon games myself but i might check this game out looks great..tbh. But first i need to find that damn charger to my 3ds!! and if its on 3ds that means full 3d graphics ohhhh sweet!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on January 09, 2013, 01:31:14 am
Show of hands:
Who got the 3DS?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on January 09, 2013, 03:27:47 am
I had a 3DS but I took a flash photo of a cat late at night and now it's dead so I don't use my 3DS out of respect for the cat.
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Dark/Psychic/Fighting
Hahahaha no. Dark has full on immunity to Psychic, whilst Psychic merely resists Fighting.
I think the only other three-way that would work would be Fighting/Flying/Rock, but I know THAT'S not happening.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on January 09, 2013, 03:54:48 am
You know, what would be interesting is that they kept all of the starters mono-typed instead of having weird type combinations.
And I agree that the Dark/Psychic/Fighting trio's a bit unfair since Dark is immune to Psychic, instead of resistant, unlike the Fire/Water/Grass trio.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Simplistic Fubini on January 09, 2013, 04:02:33 am
Why is everyone's expecting another trio to go with the starter type trio?
All of that's hopeful thinking. There is no significant evidence pointing to the fact that they will implement another type trio.
If you read my earlier post, I said that it was speculation of dual typing for the starters, not another trio. But then later corrected myself and realized the possibility that it was just someone on smogon dicking around with a speculated alternate type trio that many people believed was going to happen in Generation 4 but never did. (http://purplekecleon.deviantart.com/art/Surprise-37489493)
But as Jango said, the dark typing creates too much of an imbalance within the cycle. Pretty much the only reason why the idea of a Dark/Psychic/Fighting trio exists was purely because of that image alone.
Edit: assuming all the starters start with tackle/pound/scratch/whatever, Rock/Fighting/Flying would be imbalanced thanks to rock resisting normal.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on January 09, 2013, 07:24:24 am
Smogon is known for bitching about typings as this article shows (http://www.smogon.com/smog/issue22/retyping). Although that fire starting having a Psychic typing later on doesn't look too surprising.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 09, 2013, 07:35:22 am
The 3D in this game looks so majestic, very impressive. Will be checking all news from this
A couple of things I wanted to see, and perhaps that this new generation is happening I´ll throw them out:
- a Fire/Grass Pokemon. Bug/Fire was possible so yeah - An Arceus counterpart (Arceus is the "God" among pokemon, wonder if there will be one playing the role of a Devil)
That´s it for now
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Blackmore on January 09, 2013, 08:07:22 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: chuchoryu on January 09, 2013, 08:28:54 pm
This remember me to the Pokemon Saphire and Ruby (I have playey 500 hour in my Saphire version) and now this Pokemon X and Y...now the version have 1000 pokemons? I belive
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 09, 2013, 08:31:41 pm
This remember me to the Pokemon Saphire and Ruby (I have playey 500 hour in my Saphire version) and now this Pokemon X and Y...now the version have 1000 pokemons? I belive
According to announcement on Serebii, its confirmed to have over 700 (considering we currently only have 649, thats at least 51 new additions).
In keeping with Pokemon tradition, however, we can expect to see anywhere between 100-156 new pokemon (meaning anywhere between 749 and 805 pokemon total).
On average I'm expecting somewhere in the ballpark of 770 Pokemon this Gen (Gen 2 introduced 100, Gen 3 gave us 135, Gen 4 was 107, and Gen 5 was 156.. Thats about 124.5 new Pokemon per generation on average, which comes out to about 773.5.. Close enough)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 09, 2013, 08:32:56 pm
We kind of already have the Pokemon version of the devil with Giratina.
Now can I please have a legendary poison type.
Now that you say it, you´re right. I can´t believe I never thought of that before considering 4th Generation legendaries were presented pretty much as deities.
I still want my Fire/Grass type. Dem sunny day benefits.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: chuchoryu on January 09, 2013, 08:36:36 pm
Some have trick for Pokemon blue and red? I need to kown how chatch Mew
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 09, 2013, 08:40:30 pm
We kind of already have the Pokemon version of the devil with Giratina.
Now can I please have a legendary poison type.
Poison needs a lot of buffs in general. Tired of my favorite type needing a type 2 to be viable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Rajaa on January 10, 2013, 09:00:06 am
Ugh. Now I have to buy a 3DS.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: drewski90 on January 10, 2013, 09:06:10 am
i wonder who the new gym leaders gonna be and all that, new elite four and new champion, and will there be a pokemon anime season based on pokemon x/pokemon y? yeah, unlike most pokemon games where versions of each pokemon game is based on colors, this one for now will be versions based on letters of the alphabet, will there also be a villain team and rival to face, i mean so far we faced team rocket, magma, aqua, galactic, and plasma, who's next?
Some have trick for Pokemon blue and red? I need to kown how chatch Mew
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkF7Xjxn9jc
Thanks bro for help, now...IS TIME FOR DEATH BATLLE!!! well only cath Mew...for firt time
Pókemon have my favorite char, Squirtle BUT...I love very much Digimon, but is not reason no to enjoy Pókemon, really I nedd this new version to acomplish my collection
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 10, 2013, 11:20:21 pm
Considering the track record Pokemon has had with adding new Eeveelutions ever even numbered Gen, we might be seeing 9 this time. But if the two new ones end up like Glaceon and Leafeon did competitively then idk. Posted: January 11, 2013, 08:04:58 pm Source: http://serebii.net/index2.shtml
Xerneas and Yveltal's official artwork, height, and weight revealed (no types yet though at this point I think it's pretty obvious Yveltal is at least part flying)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Prototype God on January 12, 2013, 05:09:30 am
Hopefully this time we will be able to catch a pikachu/pichu/raichu in the wild *shakes fist at b/w* From the trailer tho, it seems like pika's catchable again.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: chuchoryu on January 12, 2013, 05:23:53 am
Hopefully this time we will be able to catch a pikachu/pichu/raichu in the wild *shakes fist at b/w* From the trailer tho, it seems like pika's catchable again.
Difrent Pokemon born like Ditto evolve to AGUAdito and evolve to DUrito...es albur mexicano no lo van a poder traducir al ingles beliveme amigos
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on January 13, 2013, 02:39:01 am
I want a Pikachu in Pokemon X and Y!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on January 13, 2013, 02:44:30 am
(http://i.imgur.com/JRzs5.png)
...I promise I'll stop.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on January 13, 2013, 09:45:04 am
(http://www.imgur.com/Qcbto.png)
I can understand Light (since there's a Dark Type and all), but Sound? How would that even work?
I doubt it will happen though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 13, 2013, 10:25:27 am
The light type is Fighting. Dark types are not like, actual darkness. They are Pokemon that use trickery and dirty tactics that may leave psychics and ghosts duped, but are no match for the real strength of fighting types.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Rajaa on January 13, 2013, 10:29:16 am
But then you have Umbreon, Houndoom, Sneasil, Absol, and a bunch of other Pokemon that truly are dark as a representation of darkness. Especially Umbreon since it evolves at night. So, yeah, your definition is not the only one.
A light type would make plenty of sense, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: vgma2 on January 13, 2013, 10:54:14 am
I'm rather surprised that light types haven't actually been introduced yet in a Pokemon game. I suppose should the light type be added, both light and dark will be supper effective against each other? Or does anyone have the feeling one will dominate over the other?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Rajaa on January 13, 2013, 03:37:35 pm
I'd say, yes, they'd both be super effective against each other, it makes sense that way. But what type would resist light? Would steel types be completely unaffected by light type attacks?! Speculation is fun.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on January 13, 2013, 04:00:33 pm
Fighting type is light. In Japan Fighting and Dark represent Justice (fair play) and Evil (trickery) respectively. That's why Dark is weak to Fighting. This more a lost in translation than anything.
I'd see Sound type a mile away. There are enough sound-based Pokemon, moves and abilities for the type to be it's own.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Cazaki on January 13, 2013, 04:13:44 pm
Sound type could be possible but I feel it unnecessary. When I read that I immediately thought of Loudred
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Rajaa on January 13, 2013, 04:18:17 pm
Any other type I can think of brings me to Yu-Go-Oh. :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 13, 2013, 07:37:07 pm
If there's any new type I would want to see, it would be one that is strong against the dominant types (Dragon, Steel, Water) while being weak to Poison. Anything to actually make the poison type more useful outside of laying toxic spikes and absorbing toxic spikes flung at you.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nameless353 on January 13, 2013, 09:13:34 pm
Majority of Pokemon are useless. What's your point?
Everyone says Caterpie is useless. F*ck the police, 'cause I trained one up to level 100 back in the days of Colosseum... ...without an everstone.
Anyways, Chespin looks so damn awesome/cute, so I'm going to pick him unless his evolutions look really fugly.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on January 13, 2013, 11:03:22 pm
Here's a comprehensive list of Pokemon that are useless in battle. This doesn't count Pokemon that can evolve since, well, they can evolve. - Farfetch'd - Unown - Delibird - Plusle and Minun - Spinda - Luvdisc - Pachirisu - Chatot
I couldn't think of anything from Gen V that is useless.
Pikachu isn't so much useless as it is very hard to use correctly. It's not fast enough even with a speed-boosting nature and maximum investment, with a lot of Pokemon out-running it. Even though holding Light Ball lets it hit almost as hard as friggin' Mewtwo, this means you have to give up an item that could save your life (like a Focus Sash). So often you need to devote a big chunk of your team to keeping the fucker alive, to the point that it's almost not worth it.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Also Chatot is an RNG abuser's best friend, so it has uses outside of battle
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on January 14, 2013, 02:37:31 am
I used Minun in my main competitive team, so it's not completely useless!
And I want Pikachu because it is my favorite Pokemon (if my avatar, signature, and MUGEN creations are not big enough clues already).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on January 14, 2013, 03:54:34 am
No I never would've guessed you liked Pikachu
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Minun can only Baton Pass stuff, and others do the job a lot better
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 14, 2013, 12:54:32 pm
*insert story about an online Battle Revolution match that involves my Pachirisu and a sav'd Rayquaza*
If only Emolga had been the evolution of Pachirisu (and as such, had better stats than it currently does), then perhaps people wouldn't disregard them as much. Heck, I used to own a female, shiny, Modest Pachirisu.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 14, 2013, 04:19:29 pm
If only Emolga had been the evolution of Pachirisu (and as such, had better stats than it currently does), then perhaps people wouldn't disregard them as much. Heck, I used to own a female, shiny, Modest Pachirisu.
Speculatively speaking if that was to happen then that would mean Emolga would recieve a 77 base stat total increase (the only other 1st stage pokemon with Pachirisu's 405 BST in a two stage evolution is Murkrow, with Honchcrow being at 505 BST). In this case Emolga would probably look something like this (assuming max IVs and neutral natures):
Holy crap that speed. HP and offense stats seem ok-ish, but its defenses are still crap. Still better than it currently is at least.
EDIT: On a related note it would be interesting if they changed the base stats for some of the lesser used/weaker Pokemon for Gen 6. Not saying it'll happen though, since the preference seems to be giving them an evolution instead but we can always dream right?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 14, 2013, 08:40:49 pm
EDIT: On a related note it would be interesting if they changed the base stats for some of the lesser used/weaker Pokemon for Gen 6. Not saying it'll happen though, since the preference seems to be giving them an evolution instead but we can always dream right?
I just hope they see sense and give fan forme Rotom Hurricane instead of that crappy old Air Slash.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on January 14, 2013, 09:55:23 pm
I'd be more happy if they changed his ability to something that's not Levitate
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 15, 2013, 07:38:52 pm
Kinda redundant news, but:
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Nintendo has sent out some new details regarding Pokémon X & Y. Specifically, it has confirmed that the types of Chespin, Fennekin and Froakie will be pure Grass, Fire and Water respectively.
Source: http://serebii.net/index2.shtml
To be honest, we haven't had a first-form dual type starter since Bulbasaur in Gen 1, and this announcement says nothing about their evolution's typing. But as I said, we haven't had dual typings in any of the starter Pokemon's first forms since Bulbasaur so this news is kind of moot really.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: raremew on January 15, 2013, 09:55:53 pm
If this is true, then thank god they finally broke the fire/fighting starter trend
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 23, 2013, 04:23:44 pm
Could be fake (partially hope it is), but it also shows the Fire/Psychic and Water/Fighting starters everyone wants. Grass/Flying though...really weak to ice, but so was Torterra, and Torterra is awesome.
*gasp* maybe the leaves on Chespin's headgear could become headwings :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 23, 2013, 04:37:27 pm
so Xerneas and Yveltal confirmed as grass & fire types respectively. Considering Yveltal's wings, it looks like we're looking at another Fire/Flying legendary (unless they give him levitate)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 23, 2013, 07:13:47 pm
so Xerneas and Yveltal confirmed as grass & fire types respectively. Considering Yveltal's wings, it looks like we're looking at another Fire/Flying legendary (unless they give him levitate)
You say "confirmed", yet this information hasn't been proven true yet. Someone suggested that there'd be Sound and Light types, which looking at both of them, fits pretty well. Yveltal's wings kinda looks like Shriek's arms from Batman Beyond, who's method of attacking was to fire soundwaves (the irony being that he caused himself to go deaf): (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111114014039/batman/images/4/43/Shriek.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on January 23, 2013, 10:12:57 pm
Grass/Flying? Water/Fighting? Fire/Psychic? Yes please to all.
Now hopefully this gen has some fun new type combos like Fire/Grass and Bug/Psychic.
Also since this is an even number gen, some new Eevee evolutions. Preferably a mono-Flying. The other can be anything, I don't care.
At any rate, bought a 3DS with my birthday cash, so I'm geared up. I must now begin preparing my body.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on January 23, 2013, 10:24:49 pm
No that translation for Chespin says "Grass/Dark." The hiragana says that the second typing is "Aku," which is what Dark Type is called in Japan.
Although until I see something official, I'm skeptical on this.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on January 23, 2013, 10:57:16 pm
Let's wait for the official Nintendo word before we can discuss this.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 24, 2013, 12:05:25 am
For anyone wondering about the Gen III remakes: (https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6979983872/h67ECA4F8/)
It makes perfect sense, if you think about it. Posted: January 24, 2013, 12:42:16 am Seeing as R/S are incredibly similar to B/W in terms of graphics (minus the 3D models), it'd be pointless to slightly update R/S, whereas from sprites to full 3D is a much greater jump, like barely any colour to full-colour (R/G -> FR/LG).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on January 24, 2013, 01:12:00 am
I wish people would stop bitching about Ruby and Sapphire remakes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on January 24, 2013, 01:14:34 am
I don't think anyone was seriously expecting a DS game in Hoenn. It's a waste of time and money to remake your game if it's only going to be slightly prettier and still really similar to the old one overall.
Junichi Masuda posted some comments in his blog about X&Y recently. It's mostly what you'd expect to read from a director promoting his game and going to lengths to not mention any new concrete details about it, other than reasonably concluding they're going to expand on what they did for communications in B/W by using the 3DS's inbuilt Streetpass/Spotpass and better wi-fi. The only thing of note is as vague as it is potentially gamechanging.
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A new battle mechanism that allows your Pokémon to become even more powerful when the bonds you share grow stronger.
I hope this means EVs now can no longer be gained without using the 3DS's inbuilt pedometer as a Pokéwalker. If you want to make it to the VGCs, start training like Rocky Balboa.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on January 24, 2013, 04:09:01 am
No that translation for Chespin says "Grass/Dark." The hiragana says that the second typing is "Aku," which is what Dark Type is called in Japan.
Although until I see something official, I'm skeptical on this.
Incidentally, if this is all true, it means we'll have both a Fire/Grass/Water cycle AND the long-wanted but sorta stupid Dark/Psychic/Fighting cycle.
Suddenly I have my doubts. Granted, being dual types mean that can sorta skirt the fact Dark is immune to Psychic by virtue of Fire being effective against Grass, but it still seems a bit too perfect.
Doesn't mean I can't hope it's true, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 24, 2013, 12:27:35 pm
I hope this means EVs now can no longer be gained without using the 3DS's inbuilt pedometer as a Pokéwalker.
I fail to see how this would work. How could each EV be determined from a step counter? 1 attack, 2 defense (curse the laziness of the translators), 3 speed...how would it work? If it was completely random, then competitive battling would go out the window (not that I like it anyway).
Perhaps you should better-explain what you mean, hm?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on January 24, 2013, 02:35:09 pm
Not to mention you have to consider people where we do not get too many opportunities to exercise at all (between work and all of that).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 24, 2013, 05:11:11 pm
Not to mention you have to consider people where we do not get too many opportunities to exercise at all (between work and all of that).
To be fair, Pokémon is supposedly aimed at young children (who subsequently don't work...unless they...yeah). But as we all know... (http://memearchive.net/memerial.net/6076/target-audience-actual-audience-games.jpg) *puts flame shield up because of last row*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 12, 2013, 05:36:59 am
Eevee confirmed to have a new Evolution, as expected, named Ninfia in JP (via serebii).
(http://i.imgur.com/a73UB8Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on February 12, 2013, 05:43:01 am
I'm totally not surprised there
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on February 12, 2013, 06:01:10 am
Looks like another Pokemon that we already have, Victini. Yea, looks like an Eevee version of Victini. :-/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 12, 2013, 06:07:40 am
I feel the same vibe, not going to be surprised on PokeFusion.
Also, movie wise, Mewtwo will return in the Genesect Movie playing a major role.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on February 12, 2013, 07:49:37 am
I'm going to be very upset if that evolution is Normal-type. It sure as hell doesn't look like anything else.
Only other possibility I can think of is Flying. So unless this thing has magic guard or regenerator or something to make it worthwhile, I see it hanging around on the same circle of competitive Inferno (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferno_(Dante)#The_nine_circles_of_Hell) as Leafeon, Glaceon, and Flareon.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
And if it is Flying, here's to hoping for a ground type to go alongside it
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on February 12, 2013, 04:08:40 pm
Looks like it might possibly be a new type to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 12, 2013, 07:15:37 pm
Ah yes the Bow and Ribbons type. I was wondering when Gamefreak was gonna add that in.
I hope it's weak to Poison.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 12, 2013, 09:25:27 pm
I've heard stuff about a Sound and Light type. Though the latter would easily work, I can't see how Sound would make much sense, plus Loudred, etc. would need a type change.
Though the two legendaries fit those types perfectly.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Real Niko on February 12, 2013, 09:29:17 pm
JUST learned about this. 1.) Do FUCKING WANT. Full 3D?! YES FUCKING PLEASE. 2.) Do NOT fucking want MORE Pokemon. Jesus Fuckin Christ. 3.) Trainer Customization plz?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duo Solo on February 12, 2013, 10:35:49 pm
Do not want more pokemon?
...What?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nomechy on February 12, 2013, 10:39:03 pm
Well there is quiet a few already.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on February 12, 2013, 10:57:02 pm
That's true but a new gen without new Pokemon would be weird, imo there doesn't need to be 100+ new Pokemon every new gen though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duo Solo on February 12, 2013, 11:17:33 pm
There is no such thing as too many pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Real Niko on February 12, 2013, 11:34:51 pm
So you're telling me that every single pokemon in the last 2 gens (including this one) are needed or even likeable?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Simplistic Fubini on February 12, 2013, 11:57:19 pm
...The same thing could be said about the original 151.
+100 new pokemon per generation is an excess, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on February 13, 2013, 12:02:42 am
I would rather see Nintendo cut back on the amount of new Pokemon and instead focus on rebalancing some of the ones that already exist. There are plenty of Pokemon in dire need of a good buff.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Real Niko on February 13, 2013, 12:22:52 am
Exactly. The newer ones seem to be getting all the love. Especially coming from a 'hardcore' Battling point of view.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on February 13, 2013, 12:32:58 am
Yes, somebody give Farfetch'd a 600 BST evolution.
Some Pokemon are just gonna be garbage, not every Pokemon is going to be a combat expert. And anyone who says Gamefreak doesn't buff their old Pokemon has never faced a Politoed or Ninetales in the last two years.
EDIT: Fixed
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on February 13, 2013, 12:33:58 am
I've heard stuff about a Sound and Light type. Though the latter would easily work, I can't see how Sound would make much sense, plus Loudred, etc. would need a type change.
Though the two legendaries fit those types perfectly.
The name makes sense in English, but the Japanese for Dark-type, あく (or 悪) is more like 'Evil' type or something, so an opposite 'Good' type would be kind of odd. Plus most Dark-type moves are about dirty fighting and cheap shots, which Fighting type moves are already the opposite of.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Cazaki on February 13, 2013, 12:57:35 am
I wouldn't be opposed to only 50-some new Pokemon per gen, if it means that they'll have less dumb-looking/sounding pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on February 13, 2013, 03:35:37 am
I've heard stuff about a Sound and Light type. Though the latter would easily work, I can't see how Sound would make much sense, plus Loudred, etc. would need a type change.
Though the two legendaries fit those types perfectly.
This won't be the first time Pokemon get type changes.
Sound perfectly makes sense. Why do some people think sound is an intangible thing? Sound is vibrations. It affects on a physical level. Certainly makes more sense compared to types like Ghost and Psychic.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 13, 2013, 02:34:33 pm
I've heard stuff about a Sound and Light type. Though the latter would easily work, I can't see how Sound would make much sense, plus Loudred, etc. would need a type change.
Though the two legendaries fit those types perfectly.
This won't be the first time Pokemon get type changes.
Sound perfectly makes sense. Why do some people think sound is an intangible thing? Sound is vibrations. It affects on a physical level. Certainly makes more sense compared to types like Ghost and Psychic.
I meant in terms of type matchups. What would it be weak against? I suppose it'd be super effective against Psychic types and possibly Steel and Rock.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 13, 2013, 04:53:42 pm
Maybe its appearance is decieving because, we all know Pokemon that look (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Stunfisk_(Pok%C3%A9mon)) like a certain type (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Sudowoodo) ended up being (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Altaria) something completely different. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lugia)
So for all we know Ninfia/Ninfeon could be a bug type (http://25.media.tumblr.com/b2d6190f45d0865f7a433f593f310fbc/tumblr_mi3oyeqe9I1rc2534o1_500.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on February 13, 2013, 05:30:28 pm
I've heard stuff about a Sound and Light type. Though the latter would easily work, I can't see how Sound would make much sense, plus Loudred, etc. would need a type change.
Though the two legendaries fit those types perfectly.
This won't be the first time Pokemon get type changes.
Sound perfectly makes sense. Why do some people think sound is an intangible thing? Sound is vibrations. It affects on a physical level. Certainly makes more sense compared to types like Ghost and Psychic.
I meant in terms of type matchups. What would it be weak against? I suppose it'd be super effective against Psychic types and possibly Steel and Rock.
Not anymore worse than Poison when it comes to matchups.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 13, 2013, 08:16:40 pm
Not anymore worse than Poison when it comes to matchups.
Here's to hoping they finally make Poison super effective against Water even though it'll never happen
Or at least restore its coverage against Bug like in Gen 1. I'll even go as far as to say have it super effective against Fighting since we all know what happened to Fighting types in Gen 5.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 13, 2013, 09:14:23 pm
Yes, somebody give Farfetch'd a 600 BST evolution.
Some Pokemon are just gonna be garbage, not every Pokemon is going to be a combat expert. And anyone who says Gamefreak doesn't buff their old Pokemon has never faced a Politoed or Ninetales in the last two years.
EDIT: Fixed
FFFFFFFFFFF---- Politoed and Ninetails FML. They just need to buff some of the others. OR they can make it to where you don't have to do some RIDICULOUSLY stupid bullshit in order to get the nature/ability/move they need in order to be effective.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 14, 2013, 01:54:16 am
I´m the only one that see Ninfeon as a possible Fighting type?? dunno why it gives me that impression...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on February 14, 2013, 02:04:30 am
The most recent fighting types looks so damn weird it might not even be far fetched.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on February 14, 2013, 02:47:05 am
Yes, somebody give Farfetch'd a 600 BST evolution.
Some Pokemon are just gonna be garbage, not every Pokemon is going to be a combat expert. And anyone who says Gamefreak doesn't buff their old Pokemon has never faced a Politoed or Ninetales in the last two years.
EDIT: Fixed
FFFFFFFFFFF---- Politoed and Ninetails FML. They just need to buff some of the others. OR they can make it to where you don't have to do some RIDICULOUSLY stupid bullshit in order to get the nature/ability/move they need in order to be effective.
- Nidoking got Sheer Force, and combined with Life Orb recoil not happening, is a total monster. - Venomoth got Quiver Dance, it is the only Pokemon that can Baton Pass one of the best boosting moves in the game. Combine this with the above Nidoking, and the game is pretty much yours. - Cloyster got Shell Smash, which, combined with Skill Link, makes it kill almost everything after a boost. - Alakazam and Magic Guard will WRECK YOUR SHIT. - Chansey and Eviolite means she has better defenses than her evolution. - Gliscor can heal itself when it's poisoned now. - Sableye got Prankster and became the next awesome annoyer. - And don't get me started on doubles.
I thought the move distribution was okay. I mean, paying money for tutor moves or breeding never bothered me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 14, 2013, 02:56:22 am
Ground absorbs poison without giving a crap Psychic can purify Poison. Or Gamefreak just always hated Poison types and wanted them to be weak to the two strongest types in the first generation.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on February 14, 2013, 09:33:02 am
It's possible I'm stretching things here, but has anyone thought that the new Eeveelution might be fighting type? It hasn't been done yet, and those ribbons sort of look like martial arts headbands if you stretch things.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 14, 2013, 09:35:38 am
Just now its called Sylveon, though Nineon would've been alright. And I do believe it looks like a Fighting type.
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OR they can make it to where you don't have to do some RIDICULOUSLY stupid bullshit in order to get the nature/ability/move they need in order to be effective.
The fact certain moves can be obtained from 3rd gen working all their way in 5th gen online does bother me.
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I thought the move distribution was okay. I mean, paying money for tutor moves or breeding never bothered me.
Shards are grinded easily this go round and breeding is faster with Join Avenue. It stresses me however that I can't get Gen exclusive moves, like Wish Blissey. Hence why I'll be replaying 3rd Gen to 4th Gen to get as much as possible for 6th Gen.
All I need is a new GBA to use E-Reader on =[
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 14, 2013, 03:28:28 pm
Just throwing this out there, but now that Ninfia Sylveon's english name is revealed, the first thing that came to mind was... silver.
Steel type Eeveelution?
I mean it is shown with sparkles, and traditionally light based attacks (with the exception of Luster Purge and Flash) have been steel type attacks. And one of the attacks it used in the trailer did look alot like Flash Cannon, a steel type attack (Unless it was Focus Blast in which case the Fighting type assumption just gained more ground)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 14, 2013, 07:53:27 pm
I would like to argue with the appearance not being metallic at all but then I remember Pokemon like Mawile and Lucario.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 14, 2013, 08:17:18 pm
I would like to argue with the appearance not being metallic at all but then I remember Pokemon like Mawile and Lucario.
Lucario's spikes. Mawile's spikes on his/her dual horns.
It's also the lightest Eeveelution, a trait that is HEAVILY (:P) unassociated with Steel types.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 15, 2013, 02:13:47 am
Sylveon demo. First move looks kinda like Focus Blast. Also from the same turn, Hariyama has a new model compared to its previous one from Coliseum and above. Guess most if not all past Gen 1-4 Pokemon are getting new renders instead of recycled models.
Second move is a new card move, looks Physical. Third probably a status debuffer. Fourth move is obviously Swift.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on February 15, 2013, 06:02:37 am
Sylveon...
Sylvan...
Sylph... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylph)
...pure Flying type?
Also
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://i.imgur.com/jMFEBMr.gif)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on February 15, 2013, 12:54:21 pm
Fairy type. Calling it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on February 15, 2013, 05:09:52 pm
I dunno about that, that seems like a really outlandish type to make for this
Also preordered this sonnabitch (X version) yesterday.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on February 15, 2013, 10:36:17 pm
I'm not sure whether to be surprised or not that no one is talking about the next movie. I know there is little to no info about it except teaser trailer and a promotional poster, but I would have figured there would have been at least some speculation. :-\ Not that anyone probably cares any more, since it seems like no one is really following the anime/movie series any more, except for the kids.
I mean, is this supposed to be about another Mewtwo involved? Or is this the same one from the Kanto region? And why the title "Reawakening of Mewtwo"? Does that mean it apparently 'died' somewhere? I can't recall it ever happening. So many questions, since it's my favorite character.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 16, 2013, 02:19:58 am
I don't think many people care about the Pokemon movies because all of them kinda suck. The main Pokemon games are a lot more interesting because they do not suck.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on February 16, 2013, 07:06:16 am
Yea that's what I figured. :( Though I still like to watch the anime, even if every one else thinks its stupid, I still like to see what's going on. Despite Ash being in every single episode, and losing to every single league imaginable. Seriously, Ash is supposed to be like 15, or 20 years old at this point anyway. Wasn't he like 10 in the very first season? He's supposed to be a man by now.
It's too bad they can't reboot the series over, but with the protagonist being Red instead of Ash. :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on February 16, 2013, 07:36:41 am
That's like saying they should've replaced May with Sapphire. Or Dawn with Platinum for that matter.
Also IIRC Mewtwo is currently wandering the world, how does "Reawakening" suggest he died? It probably means he's trying to avoid conflict but now he has to take action.
You know that was exclusive to an Event from 2005, right? Additionally, the event was impossible to RNG.
So basically, only a few were distributed, and only a handful didn't have shitty IV's. So it's safe to assume that if you run into a Wish Chansey/Blissey, it was hacked.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 16, 2013, 11:08:52 am
I thought the Gen IV movies were pretty good, especially the Arceus one.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on February 16, 2013, 11:50:07 am
Sylveon demo. First move looks kinda like Focus Blast. Also from the same turn, Hariyama has a new model compared to its previous one from Coliseum and above. Guess most if not all past Gen 1-4 Pokemon are getting new renders instead of recycled models.
Those are the models from the Pokédex apps on the 3DS and iPhone.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on February 16, 2013, 03:00:16 pm
I don't think many people care about the Pokemon movies because all of them kinda suck. The main Pokemon games are a lot more interesting because they do not suck.
I don't think many people care about the Pokemon movies because all of them kinda suck. The main Pokemon games are a lot more interesting because they do not suck.
Though I still like to watch the anime, even if every one else thinks its stupid, I still like to see what's going on. Despite Ash being in every single episode, and losing to every single league imaginable. It's too bad they can't reboot the series over, but with the protagonist being Red instead of Ash. :P
I still watch the series since the first episode in the 90s and religiously followed the series since. Hopefully Episode N turns out to be a good arc.
I mean, is this supposed to be about another Mewtwo involved? Or is this the same one from the Kanto region? And why the title "Reawakening of Mewtwo"? Does that mean it apparently 'died' somewhere?
Another Mewtwo would be hilarious to me. It's like its origins would be retconned so wild Mewtwos actually exist in the Pokemon world. Team Rocket wouldn't be mentioned if that happens.
I hope I'm wrong because this would tie well with Rocket vs Plasma in Episode N.
You know that was exclusive to an Event from 2005, right? Additionally, the event was impossible to RNG.
So basically, only a few were distributed, and only a handful didn't have shitty IV's. So it's safe to assume that if you run into a Wish Chansey/Blissey, it was hacked.
IIRC 2004. I still have a downloaded Cradily from that same year, as well as Event Metang with Refresh =P. Yeah, I'm aware it won't do much.
If that Wish event aren't RNG possible, then I guess it's impossible to RNG Jirachi as well (still have Coliseum pre-order disc). Damn.
Sylveon demo. First move looks kinda like Focus Blast. Also from the same turn, Hariyama has a new model compared to its previous one from Coliseum and above. Guess most if not all past Gen 1-4 Pokemon are getting new renders instead of recycled models.
Those are the models from the Pokédex apps on the 3DS and iPhone.
I have yet to purchase the Pokedex app on my 3DS so I had no clue the models for previous gens were made anew. Thanks for clearing it up.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 17, 2013, 11:19:45 am
Some of the models could've come from the Poképark games too.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on February 17, 2013, 03:08:21 pm
I dunno, those models weren't really very good even by Wii or 3DS standards. I'm going to assume they're probably working with the original artists' high quality meshes and optimizing them to fit the games' polygon budget.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on April 03, 2013, 07:57:40 pm
Update Guys:
Not sure if you have heard, but this weekend, we should be getting more information about Pokemon X and Y.
Most likely a new Pokemon!
http://www.gamefocus.ca/news/19547.html
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 03, 2013, 08:18:31 pm
Just realized I posted this in the Black & White topic by mistake:
Please tell me it's April Fools... please tell me its still April Fools
Inb4 April 8th reveal of Mewtwo alt form
Why April 8? That's a Monday. Don't they usually do their updates on Wednesdays? Or do they decide whenever they want to?
And I STILL don't like it. I really hope this is a late April fools joke. The movie posters are too similar.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 04, 2013, 01:21:41 am
That looks strangely similar to that Kyubey thingy.
I would like the design, but that head-tail thing is just too much...and it's too cutesy for Mewtwo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 04, 2013, 01:54:34 am
Oh great now we have a mewthree... what the hell
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Blackmore on April 04, 2013, 03:56:18 am
Well, looks like I'm the only one that likes it. Eh.
Still, I'm at least hoping that they reveal something else April 8th. liketheneweevelution'stypeforgodssakes
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Simplistic Fubini on April 04, 2013, 04:41:19 am
I don't hate Pink-Eyes White Dragon Mewtwo, but I wouldn't say it's a good design either.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on April 04, 2013, 05:10:02 am
It's Mewtwo with an oversized head. Who the hell thought that was a good design?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on April 04, 2013, 09:25:29 am
Never have I seen a stronger argument for Pokemon running out of ideas.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 04, 2013, 02:12:57 pm
I wonder if this is like that whole Regigigas Sky Forme thing. I must agree that that image is exactly the same as the official movie poster, but with Mewtwo's Kyubey Forme. I sense (I hope) photoshopping.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 04, 2013, 02:24:06 pm
Hm... But you know.
Actually looking at the two posters side by side. There are minor differences in placement of the Pokemon... And as pointed out elsewhere.
This wouldn't be the first time they've made a copy paste poster... So this sadly doesn't disprove that Mewtwo forme.
I wish it was fake too. But... I guess I can deal with it if it's real. Even if it does slightly mess up my favorite Pokemon. Ah well. It's still Mewtwo either way.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on April 04, 2013, 06:29:53 pm
Never have I seen a stronger argument for Pokemon running out of ideas.
The company apparently likes to ruin our childhoods with other forms, instead of new pokmon. They're so desperate for designs they have to make new forms of older characters.
Also, Money.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Simplistic Fubini on April 04, 2013, 10:08:26 pm
Ha ha!
How can you say that with a straight face? Pokemon's been about making money from day one.
And "pokemon are getting worse with each new gen" is mostly nostalgia fueled bullshit. Gen I and II had their share of terrible pokemon. The only difference is that new pokemon tend to look supid instead of dull and boring.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on April 04, 2013, 10:11:06 pm
TBH I think gen 1 has the worst Pokemon designs overall.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 04, 2013, 10:17:04 pm
And I think 3rd Gen have the best designs overall.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 04, 2013, 10:56:09 pm
Never have I seen a stronger argument for Pokemon running out of ideas.
The company apparently likes to ruin our childhoods with other forms, instead of new pokmon. They're so desperate for designs they have to make new forms of older characters.
Also, Money.
Yeah the new Pokemon designs suck! Gen One was so much better with their Pokemon designed after magnets and... eggs, and... uhhh, blobs. You know, CLASSICS.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 04, 2013, 11:08:19 pm
TBH I think gen 1 has the worst Pokemon designs overall.
Hm. I kinda agree. I mean... A ball with eyes? And to evolve, it flips upside down... How creative. And Magneton... Put three Magnemites together. And Dugtrio... Okay, you all get the idea.
In all honesty. ALL the generations had their ups, and downs. There's always gonna be Pokemon that are dumb, and ones that interest us.
Hell. This weird Mewtwo if it's real might grow on me. I know there were other things I at first hated. Then liked... Like the player characters from B2/W2. And some evolutions. But they ended up growing on me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 04, 2013, 11:29:32 pm
I still can't comprehend that Emolga isn't related to Pachirisu and Alomomola isn't the evolution of Luvdisc the Useless.
GameFreak have made some pretty strange decisions, that's for sure, like poison not being able to cause your Pokémon to faint outside of battle.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 04, 2013, 11:48:52 pm
Never have I seen a stronger argument for Pokemon running out of ideas.
The company apparently likes to ruin our childhoods with other forms, instead of new pokmon. They're so desperate for designs they have to make new forms of older characters.
Also, Money.
Yeah the new Pokemon designs suck! Gen One was so much better with their Pokemon designed after magnets and... eggs, and... uhhh, blobs. You know, CLASSICS.
At least those weren't self-derivative. Gen1 was creative in its simplicity, though yeah, some of them were pretty lame in retrospect.
Gen2 is best Gen, tho
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on April 05, 2013, 05:27:51 am
Gen 2 had too much baby Pokemon and are the weakest out of all the Gens.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on April 05, 2013, 05:30:04 am
I like the complex newer Pokemon better than the minimalist old ones.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on April 05, 2013, 05:30:11 am
Looks better than his old design if you ask me but i always thought Mewtwo was one of the worst pokemon so what do i know and of course this is just a mock up so it's probably not accurate. (http://i.imgur.com/Ot1fy4Cl.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on April 05, 2013, 05:52:28 am
Hmm....... I donno. That actually looks pretty good if it's fan art for the full body. But I still say it's childhood ruined. I'd rather him be 'the' normal Mewtwo instead of a new form. It's just completely unnecessary even for him. :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on April 05, 2013, 05:58:46 am
I don't think the back head "ears" aren't supposed to fused since from my view on the second poster it's separated. But yeah it ain't supposed to be accurate and looks kinda neat.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on April 05, 2013, 10:47:23 am
At least those weren't self-derivative. Gen1 was creative in its simplicity, though yeah, some of them were pretty lame in retrospect.
Gen2 is best Gen, tho
Gen One wasn't self-derivative because (gasp) it was the first one! Jegus Chris do you even think about what you're saying before you post?!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 05, 2013, 11:28:51 am
The head-tail thing is still really ugly. The whole body shape reminds me of...Deoxys speed form!
Zora! That's what I was thinking of earlier!
I will agree that Gen II had some of the most imaginative designs, but for the most part, they're so useless in battle (just for looks, essentially). Yanma (though I love it to bits), Ledian, Sunflora, Lanturn, Celebi (look how many weaknesses it has!), Furret, Quagsire, and so on just aren't useful in battle (and I'm not a competitive battler). There were so many two-stage evolutions in that Gen!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on April 05, 2013, 11:32:57 am
Celebi is actually pretty good despite its weaknesses. Quagsire is not useless. There's a niche role for it because of the abilities water absorb and unaware.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on April 05, 2013, 02:06:08 pm
I think it looks ok. Not great, but not 'childhood ruined' bad.
That's my opinion though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 05, 2013, 04:23:11 pm
Celebi is actually pretty good despite its weaknesses. Quagsire is not useless. There's a niche role for it because of the abilities water absorb and unaware.
Water Absorb and Unaware were introduced after Gen II.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on April 05, 2013, 07:46:48 pm
Quagsire still was not useless in generation 2 thanks to its typing.
Celebi was even better in generation 2 because it had fewer threats to worry about and there was only 1 bug move that was not worthless.
Like, there's really bad Pokemon like Magcargo and the Unowns which are much better examples.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 05, 2013, 09:47:19 pm
Looks better than his old design if you ask me but i always thought Mewtwo was one of the worst pokemon so what do i know and of course this is just a mock up so it's probably not accurate.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://i.imgur.com/Ot1fy4Cl.jpg)
You know... That mockup makes me kinda like this forme now...
Granted, not as much as the original. But still, if it's real. I might actually have two Mewtwos for both forms.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Garaliru on April 07, 2013, 01:16:15 am
Mewthree confirmed to be real. Now go cry in a corner.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 07, 2013, 01:31:42 am
To elaborate on this... http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml ...Is it just me? Or is it... Cute in a deformed way?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on April 07, 2013, 01:33:01 am
Motherfucker that doubles the number of meshes I need to make.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on April 07, 2013, 01:35:15 am
Looks okay to me now that isn't on a crummy cumpled magazine, although I'm starting to doubt that's Mewtwo and is more likely its own Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 07, 2013, 01:41:21 am
Ah, I forgot to link to this.
So... Is it a Mewtwo forme? Or Mewthree? Now I'm confused again... @_@
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 07, 2013, 01:43:44 am
The title of that video suggests it could indeed be Mewthree.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 07, 2013, 01:48:53 am
Even more things that suggest it might be Mewthree. http://www.pokemon.com/pokemonxy/en-us/ That or they're trolling us.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on April 07, 2013, 01:58:33 am
Goddamn that's ugly, that better not be Mewtwo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on April 07, 2013, 01:59:29 am
The way the official sites are wording it, it looks like its Mewthree. Either way, I'm ok with this new Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Simplistic Fubini on April 07, 2013, 02:05:56 am
Check that Eevelution chart. Do you see a pattern?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on April 07, 2013, 02:06:14 am
Well, N64Mario's fears got averted, somewhat. From the vid on the list of attacks, Psyshock, Energy Ball, Shadow Ball, Blizzard (looks awesome), Psycho Cut, and a new move (exclusive move?).
And lol @ small Pokemon like Gyarados and Genesect. Feels awkward to be honest, but its understable for this style.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on April 07, 2013, 02:11:19 am
The small pokemon thing could be perspective. As in , it looks smaller to the opponent. Not sure though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on April 07, 2013, 02:19:07 am
Eh looks as ugly as Mewtwo to me the mock up looked way better in my opinion.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on April 07, 2013, 02:26:06 am
If it's a Mewtwo form it can die in a fire.
As a standalone Mewthree, I could tolerate it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on April 07, 2013, 02:56:45 am
So,
we have Mewthree (or something along those lines).
Finally, a formidable opponent for me to beat up!
And it's cute in its own special way.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on April 07, 2013, 03:33:29 am
the last move it demonstrated is probably focus blast.
Anyways... Dear god no. I can't believe basket handle head Mewtwo is real...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on April 07, 2013, 04:00:48 am
If it's an entirely new "body" of a pokemon MewThree, then I am actually fine with this. ;) If it's a form for mewtwo, then I'm NOT okay with this. :P
Just as long as they don't mess with him. Though the movie posters speculate its his new form (placement of characters are nearly identical). So I'm still a bit worried. :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on April 07, 2013, 04:51:08 am
Oh, it doesn't look as bad as I thought. Pretty cute actually.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Long John Killer on April 07, 2013, 05:02:31 am
...So this thing is real, then. Was hoping it was a joke.
I don't have too much say on it, I guess, I have't played anything Pokemon related since '05. But a "cute" Mewtwo? (Looks more like a sperm cell with a withered body attached, personally) This is supposed to be the terrible murderous mutant made to surpass the base of all other Pokemon, the one with the evilest heart and all that?
This is just, well, silly. Why tamper with a good thing?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on April 07, 2013, 05:12:11 am
...So this thing is real, then. Was hoping it was a joke.
I don't have too much say on it, I guess, I have't played anything Pokemon related since '05. But a "cute" Mewtwo? (Looks more like a sperm cell with a withered body attached, personally) This is supposed to be the terrible murderous mutant made to surpass the base of all other Pokemon, the one with the evilest heart and all that?
This is just, well, silly. Why tamper with a good thing?
But you know what they say:
Don't Judge a Book by its cover.
Even the cutest creatures have the capacity of being quite evil.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on April 07, 2013, 06:18:26 am
Well, it looks like the Internet is doing their part of the community, (http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/subcultures/pokemon/photos) ;) It didn't take them too long to put up fan art of the new pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 07, 2013, 09:11:36 am
I even made a sprite for it. (And an odd fusion of it and Zero-Two.)
But yeah. I wonder what it's stats will be?
My theory is that tt will have a 720 base stat total like Arceus, get speed boost as its ability and moody as its hidden ability, can learn Nasty Plot, learn radical new special moves like Searing Shot and Draco Meteor, and will be a Psychic/Dragon type just to add more resistances to it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on April 08, 2013, 03:39:15 am
Nah it will obviously be a new type like every other super edgy Deviantart OC.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 08, 2013, 03:41:56 am
Psychic/Dark??
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 08, 2013, 08:26:25 pm
Funny you should mention that. Found a supposed leaked list of gen 6 Pokemon that mentions a Dark/Psychic type in there, but the list's authenticity is questionable at best (Chespin evolving into Grass/Steel? A normal type baby form for Pansage/Pansear/Panpour, as well as a new Dark/Psychic/Fighting monkey trio? Dragon/Rock baby form for Druddigon? Baby forms for Tropius, Skarmory, Throh, and Sawk? Delibird evolution? Fighting/Flying type Yveltal? Ghost/Normal base 600 legendary?)
I can always post it if anyones that interested.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 08, 2013, 10:46:56 pm
My theory is that tt will have a 720 base stat total like Arceus, get speed boost as its ability and moody as its hidden ability, can learn Nasty Plot, learn radical new special moves like Searing Shot and Draco Meteor, and will be a Psychic/Dragon type just to add more resistances to it.
Smogon'll have a wondrous time making up strategies to go with it, not that I honestly care what Smogon comes up with.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on April 08, 2013, 11:42:37 pm
The early strategy period is actually going to be really interesting this time round since we can't datamine the ROM for info like we've been able to for the past several years. Until the release of a (potentially incomplete and inaccurate) strategy guide or a DLC for the Pokedex apps, we have very little on the base stats for the new Pokemon, or their moves and any changes to the movesets of old Pokemon.
It's quite likely we won't even know of the existence of a lot of new Pokemon until people start going through the game from start to finish - unlike when we had screenshots of every single sprite in Black/White days before the Japanese release date.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 09, 2013, 09:28:04 am
I kinda hope they don't reveal all the Pokémon this time - you can't beat that feeling when you encounter a Pokémon you've never seen before and you're left wondering its type. For me, it was Croagunk.
Though at the same time, I'm one of those people who like to know the EV yield of a Pokémon (so I don't go fighting a bunch of speed yielders with my slow-arse rock, for example).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 09, 2013, 09:38:25 am
Yeah... This is one thing I'm mildly worried about.
Since you can't check IVs/EVs accurately in game. It's gonna be REALLY hard to get a competitive Pokemon in these games.
Since there won't be any tools to work with... So beating the Battle Frontier type place in this game might be even tougher. Since they'll have 31 on all IVs, where as you won't even know if you have good IVs...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on April 09, 2013, 10:04:06 am
That has the potential to be interesting though, especially since there's apparently a new friendship bond mechanic that'll be coming out. This means Pokemon fights could potentially stop being so mechanical and being more about the bonds with your Pokemon just like the plot told us for almost every game
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 09, 2013, 10:49:00 am
That has the potential to be interesting though, especially since there's apparently a new friendship bond mechanic that'll be coming out. This means Pokemon fights could potentially stop being so mechanical and being more about the bonds with your Pokemon just like the plot told us for almost every game
True. It does seem odd trainers raise Pokemon with mechanics abuse...
I just hope these mechanics changes don't effect the possibility of migrating...
...
Although then again, having all these promo Pokemon this gen, JUST to throw them away seems pointless. And a way to hurt it's fanbase... Plus, R/S kinda didn't do so hot with the fanbase. Since you couldn't transfer your Pokemon. And MANY Pokemon weren't even obtainable until other entries in the series allowed it... So who knows.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on April 09, 2013, 02:04:23 pm
So it'll be about grinding happiness boosting NPCs and cycling paths for an hour? Especially if they retain Join Avenue that lets you fill the place up with shops that sell happiness.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 09, 2013, 03:27:35 pm
Since there won't be any tools to work with... So beating the Battle Frontier type place in this game might be even tougher. Since they'll have 31 on all IVs, where as you won't even know if you have good IVs...
Plus the Pokémon they send out (once you've won a few times around) have an advantage on your Pokémon. It's hardly fair :/
...and seeing as how this is pretty much the only thing to do post-game in Black and White, I really hope they include something fun in X and Y, like the Underground in Diamond and Pearl, the secret bases in Ruby and Sapphire, and the Game Corner and Pokéathlon in HeartGold and SoulSilver.
Plus the Pokémon they send out (once you've won a few times around) have an advantage on your Pokémon. It's hardly fair :/
...and seeing as how this is pretty much the only thing to do post-game in Black and White, I really hope they include something fun in X and Y, like the Underground in Diamond and Pearl, the secret bases in Ruby and Sapphire, and the Game Corner and Pokéathlon in HeartGold and SoulSilver.
Indeed... And what's MORE aggravating? I actually hacked a Missingno.... Er, Double Question mark into my Emerald version, with a usable move set to boot... And for the heck of it tried it out in Battle Tower... The game PERFECTLY countered it. Since
1: It's normal type.
2: Has no ability.
3: Has Deoxys normal forme's stats... Super fast, and super powerful, but frail.
How does Battle Tower counter this? *Go Hitmontop! Hitmontop used Mach Punch! It's super effective! Missingno. fainted.*
...I was SO mad when that happened. And it happened again with a different enemy. But the results were the same.
And yeah. I hope for more end game content too. While I am somewhat competitive in nature... I just don't like having to deal with AI that don't know the meaning of fair play... I mean, you KNOW an AI is cheating when it can even counter something it shouldn't be normally programmed to deal with.
And yeah, I miss the Secret Bases... Heck, if you had more then one copy of the game. You could pretty much make an optional boss of your own. Since your friend's bases show up in your game. And if you used another copy you owned... You can give that trainer whatever you want them to have.
But yeah. I hope this time they try to add some more end game content this time around... I LOVE B/W and B2/W2. But end game stuff isn't their strong suit... Granted, at least in B2/W2 they added a few more optional things. So maybe there's hope...
And wow this got wordy. Sorry about that. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 09, 2013, 11:45:43 pm
Indeed... And what's MORE aggravating? I actually hacked a Missingno.... Er, Double Question mark into my Emerald version, with a usable move set to boot... And for the heck of it tried it out in Battle Tower... The game PERFECTLY countered it. Since
1: It's normal type.
2: Has no ability.
3: Has Deoxys normal forme's stats... Super fast, and super powerful, but frail.
How does Battle Tower counter this? *Go Hitmontop! Hitmontop used Mach Punch! It's super effective! Missingno. fainted.*
...I was SO mad when that happened. And it happened again with a different enemy. But the results were the same.
Not to drag it on or anything, seeing as we get the point (:P), but is it me, or do the AI's attacks seem to hit pretty much all the time, regardless of accuracy. That freaking Garbodor's Focus Blast hits pretty much every time, yet my Reuniclus' Focus Blast misses when I really need it to hit. Mind you, I did get some luck with Brightpowder:
Last Pokémon left - my Reuniclus vs. Ingo's Crustle. His Crustle went first and got Reu with a powerful X-Scissor, getting Reu down to less than half HP. Reu used Psychic and did about the same damage, however, Reu was slower, so he was surely done for... Crustle used X-Scissor and...it missed! Brightpowder worked! Reu used Psychic and took him down. I had won! Damn was that a good day.
That's about the only bit of luck I've had with those sorts of facilities, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 09, 2013, 11:56:13 pm
Not to drag it on or anything, seeing as we get the point (:P), but is it me, or do the AI's attacks seem to hit pretty much all the time, regardless of accuracy. That freaking Garbodor's Focus Blast hits pretty much every time, yet my Reuniclus' Focus Blast misses when I really need it to hit. Mind you, I did get some luck with Brightpowder:
Last Pokémon left - my Reuniclus vs. Ingo's Crustle. His Crustle went first and got Reu with a powerful X-Scissor, getting Reu down to less than half HP. Reu used Psychic and did about the same damage, however, Reu was slower, so he was surely done for... Crustle used X-Scissor and...it missed! Brightpowder worked! Reu used Psychic and took him down. I had won! Damn was that a good day.
That's about the only bit of luck I've had with those sorts of facilities, though.
That too... Hell, even the normal in game AI do this. Like Ghetsis's Hydreigon. With it's Fire Blast. It took a LONG time for it to miss it's mark with that. (I assume Iris' is the same way too. Though I put it to sleep before it could do that.)
And wow... THAT was an incredible stroke of luck. Nice win there. :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on April 12, 2013, 04:27:09 am
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But yeah. I hope this time they try to add some more end game content this time around... I LOVE B/W and B2/W2. But end game stuff isn't their strong suit... Granted, at least in B2/W2 they added a few more optional things. So maybe there's hope...
There's online battles, PokeDex completion, effort value training, Global link/Dream World, certain offline events like Play! if you're near one, certain online events like the International Challenge if you're into that stuff, and more....what else do you have in mind?
I'm satisfied at how B2W2 came out to be even post-game, but there are lots of stuff to do if you're into Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 12, 2013, 12:43:53 pm
^Note how that all involves battling (minus the Dream World, but that's not part of the game itself, plus it only lasts for an hour every 24 hours, plus there's nothing to do once the Dream Bridge disappears...I only really use it for the EV-reducing berries anyway) - the same thing you've been doing up to post game.
To me, the Pokéathlon and the underground were by far the best things to do when taking a break from your adventure...the only downside to the underground was the battery consumption, but if you're using a 3DS and you know the trick, it's not such a problem ;)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 13, 2013, 08:29:15 am
That "New Pokemon" is confirmed to be Mewtwo... I'm not surprised at all. http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml Personally, I theorize that it will trade it's Special Attack with it's Speed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on April 13, 2013, 08:44:38 am
I am incontinent with indignant fan-rage.
I will show them my dissatisfaction at this choice by scowling while I shell out for copies of both X and Y on release day. Furthermore I shall give my rival a bad name. Not even funny, just bad. That'll show'em.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on April 13, 2013, 09:12:36 am
Okay, now back to the checklist...
Basket Head being official confirmed: Check
Basket Head being a new forme of Mewtwo confirmed: Check
Like Scizor before it, Basket Head turns its cooler looking predecessor Mewtwo into the ubers version of Scyther but in this case, Mewtwo will still be an uber thus illegal in lower tiers. Therefore, Mewtwo is stuck in the weirdest competitive hell of un-use ever. Even more so than regular Kyurem confirmed: Not checked just yet
You know, ubers battles were pretty annoying anyway. Everyone and their mom starts out with choice scarf Kyogre and I doubt gen 6 is really gonna change that. I think I'll forget about ubers and place all of my attention to NU where the rest of my favorite Pokemon live :D.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on April 14, 2013, 04:03:49 am
My childhood is still ruined. They should not have messed with him at all TBH. They've made some poor choices the past few times. And why the hell is Ash still in the anime? He's a terrible trainer. The only reason they keep him in is because in the Japanese version he's named after the creator of the series, or some crap like that. Like how Blue/Gary's Japanese name is Miyamoto, or Shigeru, I forget, just know he was named after that guy. Other than that, I don't see why they need to keep him in.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on April 14, 2013, 04:32:19 am
It's a horrible design, but all of the other Pokemon this gen have been awesome. Even gen 1 had a ton of hideous Pokemon to offset its awesome ones. The REAL Mewtwo wouldn't have been nearly as cool if he didn't have to share a game with crap like Magneton, Weezing, Exeggutor and Dragonite.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on April 14, 2013, 04:58:58 am
Hey, I liked Dragonite or at least the whacked out one from R/B (the Green version sprite was so bad lol). I never really thought the old Mewtwo was much of a looker anyway so I find it to care about. Since its going to be an uber obviously, multiply that sentiment by two. I just don't get the 'basket head' and the tail relocation.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on April 14, 2013, 06:08:11 am
It's a horrible design, but all of the other Pokemon this gen have been awesome. Even gen 1 had a ton of hideous Pokemon to offset its awesome ones. The REAL Mewtwo wouldn't have been nearly as cool if he didn't have to share a game with crap like Magneton, Weezing, Exeggutor and Dragonite.
Die.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on April 14, 2013, 06:27:02 am
And why the hell is Ash still in the anime? He's a terrible trainer.
The better question is: why the hell is Ash immortal?
Well..... The only explanations I can come up with is either this one (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/529000-ruined-childhood), or this explanation (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/518354-ruined-childhood).
So yea, he's been 10 for at over 10 years. The last conclusion I can come up with is that ongoing cartoon characters never age. Look at The Simpsons for that matter. ;)
But in all seriousness, Ash just needs to go back home, and start a new season with a new protagonist. The jokes are getting old now. Nothing makes sense anymore with Ash being there. :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on April 14, 2013, 07:02:05 am
Mewtwo is a a damn overrated Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 14, 2013, 07:12:13 am
Hm. Yeah... Mewtwo is overrated...
But I like it anyway.
Like I said, I don't mind this new form. And I'm someone who watched the first movie when I was little.
Hopefully though, so that people won't have to be so upset. It has different stat distribution, rather then just plain being more powerful... I'm personally thinking it will focus on Speed. Rather then Special Attack.
...
Also, Brawl modders amaze me sometimes.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Someone already made a model for this new Mewtwo form.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on April 14, 2013, 07:13:46 am
I don't think you know what that word means. Mewtwo was the single most overpowered Pokemon for a long time and to this day is still widely used in ubers.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on April 14, 2013, 07:15:19 am
I don't think you know what that word means. Mewtwo was the single most overpowered Pokemon for a long time and to this day is still widely used in ubers.
People like Mewtwo more than just being an overpowered uber.
Stop thinking things only through a competitive mindset.
Anyways, I'm pretty sure they're milking this whole DNA concept to hell. I wouldn't be surprised if Mew or Deoxys get their own new forms.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on April 14, 2013, 07:29:47 am
@dnz
Farfetch'd deserves a Kuroushiki Forme or buff up Stick item or something =[
'sides if Newtwo's stats is a watered Deoxys-S, Mewtwo still has its uses as a well versatile Pokemon. I mean when Giratina-O was shown, most prefer its tankish original even in competition. It's all cool.
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So yea, he's been 10 for at over 10 years. The last conclusion I can come up with is that ongoing cartoon characters never age. Look at The Simpsons for that matter.
In that one Pikachu short from Movie 3, Ash claims a certain day where he and Pikachu first met, depicting a year had pass during the Johto arc.
He's practically around 13-14 before Episode N, but my guess.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 14, 2013, 07:45:12 am
'sides if Newtwo's stats is a watered Deoxys-S, Mewtwo still has its uses as a well versatile Pokemon. I mean when Giratina-O was shown, most prefer its tankish original even in competition. It's all cool.
It would still be useful. You could make use of some of the less attack oriented move sets Mewtwo could run normally. Like Duel Screens. Sure, it would be less speedy then Deoxys Speed Forme. But it would have much more bulk. Thanks to it's base HP. HP does not change with Formes as I recall. So he should still keep that beefy 106 Base HP.
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Post by: Alpaca-San on April 14, 2013, 08:03:13 am
Guess beauty or ugliness is in the eyes of the beholder.
Me, I think the design's kind of cute.
Not as badass, sure. But cute.
Seriously, I have seen worse, and dealt with worse. This is not worse.
The thing I found great about Mewtwo was that it wasn't cute. It was a tall, imposing alien looking monstrosity that looked (and pretty much was) hella powerful. It made Mewtwo stand out from the other Pokemon. Basket Head just blends it in with the likes of Mew, Manaphy, and Victini aside from Basket Head still not fitting in my pocket. So yeah, Mewtwo having a cutesy form that has the potential to render its original form obsolete is just not acceptable to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on April 15, 2013, 03:43:33 am
One thing to remember about Pokemon movies...
The power shown in them does not reflect how they are in game.
These are the same movies that made Unown look uber tier... And look at how they are in game.
I highly doubt they would make a more powerful Mewtwo. Having different stat allocations, yes. This one looks less sturdy... So, it will either have more attack, less defense. Or it will trade it's special attack with it's speed.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on April 18, 2013, 06:33:57 am
And to nobody's surprise...
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Post by: Kirishima on April 18, 2013, 06:47:39 am
.....
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Post by: Alpaca-San on April 18, 2013, 07:18:09 am
I wonder how changing forms via having a heart attack will be handled in gameplay.
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Post by: Sheng Long on April 18, 2013, 08:04:10 am
I wonder if this is NOT the Kento Mewtwo, but the Univa region Mewtwo? The reason I say this is because comparing the designs, and the color schemes, They do not match one another. I know it's different artists, but it would explain a little bit. It's the only thing I can think of as to why this Mewtwo has a new form, while the other one never did. ;)
Now that Mewtwo's new form would have a pokedex #, it would explain that there would be two different ones. The Univa Mewtwo taking on its the new form, while the Kento Mewtwo is still the regular one.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on April 18, 2013, 01:55:44 pm
Maybe.
But we would have to wait and see.
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Post by: Jango Hakamichi on April 18, 2013, 02:10:47 pm
I wonder how changing forms via having a heart attack will be handled in gameplay.
Goddammit Arpa, you made me do this
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Post by: GarchompMatt on April 18, 2013, 02:27:24 pm
It does seem a little annoying that they said Mewtwo has "awakened" in this forme, kinda like saying the Mewtwo you all know and love is a lie.
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Post by: Long John Killer on April 18, 2013, 02:43:57 pm
I actually didn't notice the size change before, I figured he stayed the same height, just his head was bizarrely oversized. Now it's more he changed back into a kid.....except the kid Mewtwo from the movie was much more preferable.
But wait, Pokemon's biggest character suddenly changes into a kid form? And yet it's somehow better than his previous form?
I got it, someone wished on the Black Star Pokeballs! It'd explain the transformation, the power change, even the fan reactions to the very concept.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on April 18, 2013, 03:08:22 pm
I just hope gameplaywise, its just an aesthetic change like Keldeo, and that if it does involve base stat changes that they dont render classic Mewtwo obsolete by pulling another Deoxys-A.
I wonder if this is NOT the Kento Mewtwo, but the Univa region Mewtwo? The reason I say this is because comparing the designs, and the color schemes, They do not match one another. I know it's different artists, but it would explain a little bit. It's the only thing I can think of as to why this Mewtwo has a new form, while the other one never did. ;)
Now that Mewtwo's new form would have a pokedex #, it would explain that there would be two different ones. The Univa Mewtwo taking on its the new form, while the Kento Mewtwo is still the regular one.
Except X&Y takes place in France and not New York City Unova, unless you're referring to the movie?
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Post by: Kirishima on April 18, 2013, 05:25:21 pm
The idea of another cloned Mewtwo existing in the Pokemon world and can somehow morph into a miniature form with the power of love is a little hard to swallow. Also Movie 16 Mewtwo is apparently FEMALE, so I'm really hoping the movie explains this theory and not retcon the events of Gen 1.
And wow at the number of hate from the video. I don't blame them, really.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on April 18, 2013, 05:54:11 pm
Unless they decided to assign gender to Mewtwo for some reason and made the Awakened Form gender specific (which would fall under the sexual dimorphism introduced in Gen 4).
Unless this form has something to do with the new friendship mechanic they teased us about
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Post by: Alpaca-San on April 18, 2013, 07:29:13 pm
Keldeo's form is not so much an aesthetic change (In black/white 2 that is) as much as it is a loud "Look out for my Secret Sword!" warning.
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Post by: The Simplistic Fubini on April 19, 2013, 04:11:55 am
I thought that was a poorly concealed joke about him reaching manood, and thus phallic development.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on May 10, 2013, 02:52:11 pm
Serebii said:
In The Games Department Pokémon X & Y - News Coming
The episode of Japanese variety show, Pokémon Smash, due to air on May 19th is said to be a massive Pokémon X & Y special featuring Junichi Masuda with lots of information promised. It is likely that this information will be revealed in CoroCoro, which is due for release in Japan on Wednesday, so we could have it any time between now and then, so keep checking back.
Normal/Flying Sylveon reveal, calling it.
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Post by: 1Ultima on May 10, 2013, 03:38:06 pm
I ain't holding my breath for something big considering last month, 'big news' was a new forme.
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Post by: Mgbenz on May 11, 2013, 05:03:38 pm
Here's your Kung Fu Panda Pokemon.
(http://i.imgur.com/WswzUeA.jpg)
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Translations:
“Panda” Pokémon‘s name is Yanchamu, it’s is the “Mischievous Pokémon” and is a Fighting-type. The leaf in its mouth is its trademark. It’s new attack allows it to switch out and lower the opponents ??? (Unable to make out what ??? currently is). Yanchamu is able to learn a new move Parting Remark. “Bird” Pokémon‘s name is Yayakoma, it is the “Robin Pokémon”, is a Normal/Flying-type and is known for its beautiful chirping. Because it is fond of/friendly with humans, it’s popular amongst trainers. Yellow/Black Pokémon‘s name is Eriki(blurred)ru, it is the “Generator Pokémon” and is an Electric/(Normal?)-type; learn’s a new move called Parabora Charge. Whilst damaging surrounding Pokémon it restores its own HP. “Goat” Pokémon‘s name is Gōgōto (Gogoat), it is the “Ride Pokémon” and is a Grass-type; is able to be ridden by the player. There will be more information on page 18. The Pokémon is gentle-nature. The Pokémon learns a move called Horn Leech. New Pokédex is shown in the top right corner, it is the red expanding device Boxart for Pokémon Y is featured in part in the lower right hand corner Chespin is the Shelled Chestnut Pokémon. Chespin sharpens its spikes/thorns to increase its ???. It gets harder/stronger (unable to make out which one it is, currently) Further information on Fennekin: Fox Pokémon. It’s a fire type Pokémon, the ??? that it blows out from its ears are over 200 degree Celsius. ??? is its favourite food, it carries it around and eats it as a snack. Froakie is the Foam Frog Pokémon and said to be able to jump as high as the third floor of a building.
(http://i.imgur.com/35YPQs7.jpg)
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Translations:
The region is known as the Kalos region. It seems to be based on France! You are able to customise a little — “You can choose the way you look”. Skin tone and hair colour can be changed. Gogoat can be ridden in Miare City, one of the main cities in the Kalos region. The Pokémon moves in accordance to the feelings of the trainer. On the right the screen for the start of a battle is shown. The text reads “Miniskirt Rika challenged you to a battle”, artwork for the character is also shown.
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Post by: First Lt. Ding on May 11, 2013, 05:47:19 pm
I like this new Normal/Flying bird. So simple looking.
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Post by: 1Ultima on May 11, 2013, 06:57:58 pm
I like all of them And we get to change skin tone (and maybe more) And we get to ride on some pokemon.
I'd say 'Shut up and take my money' but I've already pre ordered it. This has gotten me well and truly hyped.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on May 11, 2013, 08:27:38 pm
Yeah!
These new Pokemon look awesome and cute.
Especially the little bird. Guess I found my Pidgey again.
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Post by: Jexsam on May 12, 2013, 03:31:33 am
I'm iffy on the goofy-looking electro-dog thingy.
But the bird is nice, the panda could be nifty, and oh my god I want one of those goats.
Character designs are solid, too. I get the distinct feeling the female PC is going to get 34'd to hell and back, though.
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Post by: Jango Hakamichi on May 13, 2013, 11:08:54 am
I already found /34/ of Gogoat, so yeah
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Post by: 1Ultima on May 13, 2013, 12:24:26 pm
There's been R34 of all of them since they were released. Not surprised. Its Pokemon after all.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on May 13, 2013, 05:15:42 pm
What's more surprising is how quickly they were done.
I could assume the drawing would take a lot of time at least.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on May 14, 2013, 01:32:00 am
If Mewtwo getting a new form was bad enough...
http://pokebeach.com/ said:
Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it. Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy). Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items. The professor's English name is Patrice. The Starter final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Fighting, and Water/Dark. The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting. A few attacks will be dual-typed. There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in. You will be able to see a Pokemon's EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.
None of this officially confirmed yet but if it turns out to be true...
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Post by: Alpaca-San on May 14, 2013, 04:02:32 am
Nothing will prepare you for the full wrath of Fairy type forme Mewtwo and his array of dual-type attacks.
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Post by: The Fisher King on May 14, 2013, 04:25:42 am
Fairy type?? I guess that´s some sort of light type, after all is super effective against dark I guess. At least there´s something else weak against Poison, thank God... I don´t what to think about that right now.
I still need by Psychic/Dark and Fire/Grass please, Gamefreak...
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Post by: Kirishima on May 14, 2013, 04:33:21 am
Nothing will prepare you for the full wrath of Fairy type forme Mewtwo and his array of dual-type attacks.
*Shedinja glare*
I'm actually happy that there's an electric version of Giga Drain. New Pokemon look kinda cool. Loved the robin themed Pidgey. Still waiting on Water weakness to Poison.
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Post by: LurkerSupreme on May 14, 2013, 06:40:33 am
Was gonna complain about Mawile type change (one of my faves), but those new resistances and weakness don;t suck I guess. Hopefully it also means a new evolution that doesn't suck too.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on May 14, 2013, 06:55:28 am
Fairy Type?
Hmm...
Will this means that some of the old Pokemon's getting their typing changed?
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Post by: GarchompMatt on May 14, 2013, 10:05:30 am
None of this officially confirmed yet but if it turns out to be true...
It's probably just fan speculation; Bulbapedia's got nothing about it, and as if Nintendo would officially reveal that much information in one go.
Fairy has been a fan type since the beginning of time.
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Post by: 1Ultima on May 14, 2013, 10:59:25 am
Fairy types are one of the dumbest things I've ever heard with dual type moves coming a close second. Seriously, what a crock of shit.
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Post by: GarchompMatt on May 14, 2013, 01:51:16 pm
The only thing "Fairy" in Pokémon is one of the Pokédex body types.
And let's hope it stays that way.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on May 14, 2013, 02:00:14 pm
Whatever floats your boat.
And I AM aware of all of this not being confirmed. I am just discussing the possible effects if the rumors were true.
Nothing wrong with that, right?
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Post by: Wolvegeta on May 14, 2013, 02:11:47 pm
Didn't see anyone posting this yet, hope I'm not wrong. New gameplay trailer:
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Post by: DNZRX768 on May 14, 2013, 02:44:42 pm
Nice! New Trailer!
This is going to be good!
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Post by: 1Ultima on May 14, 2013, 02:49:01 pm
The official site updated as well. Apparently, we can unlock different costumes for the main character. http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/characters/
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Post by: GarchompMatt on May 14, 2013, 02:50:20 pm
Damn! That's good! (Both the trailer and the customisation options)
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Post by: 1Ultima on May 14, 2013, 02:54:33 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Region map: (http://serebii.net/karos.jpg)
Boxart (http://serebii.net/box.jpg)
Also English names.
Serebii.net said:
Following its reveal in CoroCoro on Saturday, The Pokémon Company has now announced the US names of the latest Pokémon. First, Gogoat shall be known as Gogoat. Elikiteru will be known as Helioptile, Yayakoma will be known as Fletchling and Yancham will be known as Panchum. In addition to this, they have also confirmed a few other bits. First, the Karos Region shall be called Kalos and Miare City shall be called Lumiose City. The move Parting Remark will be called Parting Shot and Parabola Charge will be Parabolic Charge.
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Post by: GarchompMatt on May 15, 2013, 12:59:20 am
I get that wonderful feeling that I'm truly going to like this game and all its wonderful gimmicks :)
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Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on May 15, 2013, 01:22:36 am
Tell but don't show character customisation.
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Post by: Kirishima on May 15, 2013, 02:16:41 am
(http://i.imgur.com/ZYawL2O.png)
HOLY BRAVE BIRD
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Post by: The Fisher King on May 15, 2013, 02:28:50 am
^ :o :o :o
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Post by: Alpaca-San on May 15, 2013, 03:21:34 am
Did I just see the player character riding a Pokemon?!
Dude, if this game lets me ride on my Giratina or my Regigigas I will instantly declare this to be the best game on the planet.
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Post by: drewski90 on May 15, 2013, 03:30:58 am
Didn't see anyone posting this yet, hope I'm not wrong. New gameplay trailer:
[youtube]xMnwB6neGlY[/youtube]
this reminds me too much of 3d zelda, because you can ride instead of riding your bike like in the previous pokemon games
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Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on May 15, 2013, 11:19:14 am
Gogoat's field model appears less detailed than the battle model and stylistically different to match the character models; the wording also implies that it's either exclusive to that city or usable in one city and on field maps. So it's probably a very exclusive feature.
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Post by: 1Ultima on May 15, 2013, 03:45:35 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on May 16, 2013, 01:41:08 am
So.... People go to KYM.com for random pokemon images? Well, that's where I first saw the batman/robin, and that FOP pic from before they were posted here.
Also, possible new 'Fairy' type for the new eevee evolution form? Seems legit. ^_^
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Post by: GarchompMatt on May 16, 2013, 08:05:59 pm
So.... People go to KYM.com for random pokemon images?
*Pokémemes ;)
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Post by: Ricepigeon on May 21, 2013, 04:56:42 pm
More "Insider Information" from Pokebeach:
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Pancham evolves into Pangoro in the early level 30s. In order to evolve Pancham into Pangoro, you need to have one other Dark-type Pokemon in your party. Pangoro's type is Fighting/Dark. A Pokemon named Inkay evolves into Malimar. To evolve it, you have to hold your 3DS upside-down when it levels up (the 3DS has an accelerometer and gyroscope, so it can detect that). Malimar's type is Dark/Psychic. A Psychic-type Pokemon named Espurr (ESP + purr) evolves into Meowstick (Meow + mystic?). (Sounds like Psychic-type cats. Meowstick's name sounds too similar to Meowth to me though.) Like in B/W you have two rivals - one is friendly and the other is competitive. Your rival that is more friendly gives you his/her fully evolved starter Pokemon after you beat the game. Another professor named Sycamore gives you either Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle. Even though it shows the player riding on a Gogoat in the new trailer, players can't ride on their own Pokemon. What was shown is just an alternate way of getting around Lumiose City and it only works with Gogoat. HMs still exist but there's a lot less of them. Players will be able to see their Pokemon's EVs (probably through the same in-game facility mentioned in the other post). A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it. Draining Kiss is a Fairy-type attack that heals the user for the same amount of damage performed. It has a base power of 60. If the previously revealed forme of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly similar to Mewtwo's original design, the second supposed form of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly/vaguely similar to Mew's design. In case you missed our correction the other day, the Starters' final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.
Yeah.. calling BS on this one
Edit: this was just added:
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Ekans has a new alternate evolution named Kobrantra, which evolves at level 22, the same as Arbok. In order to evolve Ekans into Kobrantra, you must input on your 3DS the following button presses during the evolution sequence: "Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A, Start". Kobrantra's type is Poison/Steel.
:smug:
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Post by: DNZRX768 on May 21, 2013, 06:45:35 pm
I'll wait for Serebii to come around!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on May 22, 2013, 05:39:50 am
In anime stuff, this might intrigue N64Mario.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Ash's Butterfree returns after who knows how long.
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Post by: Mgbenz on May 22, 2013, 06:01:35 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
For now it just looks like he's having a flashback about Butterfree but if it's the same as that time he got Charizard back then he would get him back by the end of the episode.
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Post by: GarchompMatt on May 22, 2013, 02:29:02 pm
Do we get Sound and Angel types too? :P
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Post by: Sheng Long on May 22, 2013, 11:40:25 pm
Ash's Butterfree returns after who knows how long.
Well, I've been watching the show since Gen 1. So if Ash has been around this long, there's definitely some age issues if he gets to see Butterfree again while still young. Either that, or time is completely still in the Pokemon universe. Either that, or their world they live on does not rotate ever. :P
But in all seriousness, looking forward to seeing it. Still have not seen the Charizard episode air in the US yet. What happened to Butterfree's scarf? I can't recall if he kept wearing it toward the end of Gen 1's episode or not. Oh well, nice to see old characters come in anyway.
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Post by: 1Ultima on May 23, 2013, 09:37:56 pm
Nintendo won’t be holding a typical press conference at this year’s E3, but the company has scheduled a number of different events for the show.One happening appears to be a special Pokemon presentation. This will take place during the first night of E3 and will be 1.5 hours long, according to media reports.Also during E3 are two different hands-on events: one for the media and one for analysts/other business folks. A Nintendo Direct broadcast will be live-streamed on June 11 as well.
Update: Kotaku editor Jason Schreier has a few more details. It’s a Pokemon X/Y presentation/Q&A. Time is set for 6 PM PT. Schreier also says that “Nintendo is doing a lot of different E3 events.”
Update 2: Pokemon Company president and CEO Tsunekazu Ishihara and Game Freak director Junichi Masuda are attending.
:stare: How much stuff are they showing?
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Post by: Sheng Long on May 23, 2013, 10:17:31 pm
IKR? It's like they are really trying to go so far in to advertise this game as much as they can.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on May 23, 2013, 11:15:04 pm
I hope they finally debunk that dumbass fairy rumour.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on May 23, 2013, 11:30:18 pm
Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it. Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy). Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items. The professor's English name is Patrice. The Starter final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Fighting, and Water/Dark. The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting. A few attacks will be dual-typed. There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in. You will be able to see a Pokemon's EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.
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Pancham evolves into Pangoro in the early level 30s. In order to evolve Pancham into Pangoro, you need to have one other Dark-type Pokemon in your party. Pangoro's type is Fighting/Dark. A Pokemon named Inkay evolves into Malimar. To evolve it, you have to hold your 3DS upside-down when it levels up (the 3DS has an accelerometer and gyroscope, so it can detect that). Malimar's type is Dark/Psychic. A Psychic-type Pokemon named Espurr (ESP + purr) evolves into Meowstick (Meow + mystic?). (Sounds like Psychic-type cats. Meowstick's name sounds too similar to Meowth to me though.) Like in B/W you have two rivals - one is friendly and the other is competitive. Your rival that is more friendly gives you his/her fully evolved starter Pokemon after you beat the game. Another professor named Sycamore gives you either Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle. Even though it shows the player riding on a Gogoat in the new trailer, players can't ride on their own Pokemon. What was shown is just an alternate way of getting around Lumiose City and it only works with Gogoat. HMs still exist but there's a lot less of them. Players will be able to see their Pokemon's EVs (probably through the same in-game facility mentioned in the other post). A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it. Draining Kiss is a Fairy-type attack that heals the user for the same amount of damage performed. It has a base power of 60. If the previously revealed forme of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly similar to Mewtwo's original design, the second supposed form of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly/vaguely similar to Mew's design. In case you missed our correction the other day, the Starters' final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.
It begins...
Update: Sylveon and Marril confirmed for Fairy typings. Confirmed to be super effective against Dragon.
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Post by: Kirishima on June 11, 2013, 04:16:38 pm
Pure Power Azumarill is back.
Now wishing for a Dragon-Type Eeveelution to complete the Special type list.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on June 11, 2013, 04:20:44 pm
They revealed two new Pokemon - one named Noviern, who uses a new attack called Boomburst, and Vivillon, which knows another new attack called Struggle Bug.
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Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on June 11, 2013, 04:25:05 pm
Now we can all command wonderful fairies.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 04:26:22 pm
Fairies!
I'm going to nickname one Tinkerbell!
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Post by: Ricepigeon on June 11, 2013, 04:31:41 pm
Still waiting on Fairy SE on Fighting reveal, god knows Gen 6 needs it after what Gen 5 did. Seems like they put Fairy in there to rebalance the type chart, especially if the part about being weak to Steel and Poison is true.
inb4 Poison SE against Water Posted: June 11, 2013, 04:37:18 pm
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Noivern is Flying/Dragon, 4'11", 187.4 lbs., and uses a new attack called Boomburst. Vivillon is Bug/Flying, 3'11", 37.5 lbs., and can learn Struggle Bug.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 04:53:45 pm
Oh boy!
Smogon's going to freak when they hear this!
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Post by: 1Ultima on June 11, 2013, 06:24:23 pm
Who gives a fuck about Smogon? Seriously Im hyped for October. Fairy type is gonna take time to get used to. But still hyped.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on June 11, 2013, 06:44:04 pm
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The male player is named Xavier. Old Pokemon still have their old sound effect cries. Yveltal used Hyper Beam attack, which uses the exact same sound effect from Red and Blue.
I nearly shat myself when I first saw and heard Hyper Beam in RB almost 15 years ago. Too bad it's sucked ever since Gen 2.
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Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on June 11, 2013, 06:56:44 pm
Who gives a fuck about Smogon? Seriously Im hyped for October. Fairy type is gonna take time to get used to. But still hyped.
Nintendo's been hosting official world tournaments for a good few years now, and it's only getting easier to play competitively around the world. One of the biggest places to discuss serious playing is gonna be pretty busy with what's happening to the game.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: c001357 on June 11, 2013, 07:03:53 pm
new type chart. (https://twitter.com/9xk/status/344455657937854464/photo/1) fairy types are weak against steel and poison and strong against dark and fighting and dragon. dragons are ineffective against them. they are also not very effective against fire and psychic.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 07:05:42 pm
Hello fairy types,
Meet Metagross and Bronzong!
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Post by: Ricepigeon on June 11, 2013, 07:08:51 pm
new type chart. (https://twitter.com/9xk/status/344455657937854464/photo/1) fairy types are weak against steel and poison and strong against dark and fighting and dragon. dragons are ineffective against them. they are also not very effective against fire and psychic.
Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it.
Looks like that info about a third Mewtwo form is becoming more and more likely each day.
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Post by: Kirishima on June 11, 2013, 07:58:44 pm
And three months later you're proven right. So fuck you. My Dragonite is going to get stomped by a Jigglypuff? wat? Either Fairy type is going to need some insane moves, or some insane abilities, because the name inherently makes it sound like a defensive lulhouse for competitive play. Can't wait for Normal/Fairy Eviolite Chansey to troll all over the place. Going to be a nightmare after the rebalancing they seem to be doing
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Post by: GarchompMatt on June 11, 2013, 08:16:20 pm
If CleFAIRY isn't a Fairy type *shakes fist*
Will that make Granbull a Fairy type, too? I mean, it is the Fairy Pokémon :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 11, 2013, 08:21:47 pm
And three months later you're proven right. So fuck you. My Dragonite is going to get stomped by a Jigglypuff? wat? Either Fairy type is going to need some insane moves, or some insane abilities, because the name inherently makes it sound like a defensive lulhouse for competitive play. Can't wait for Normal/Fairy Eviolite Chansey to troll all over the place. Going to be a nightmare after the rebalancing they seem to be doing
Implying having Terrakion and/or Keldeo on every single team isn't already a nightmare?
And making Chansey/Blissey a Normal/Fairy type won't be as much of a gamebreaker as you might think. Sure it gives them a pretty big immunity by Gen 5 standards but it also give them 2 more weaknesses than what they already had, especially when you consider how much of a beast Scizor has been since Gen 4. Yes they'll still be good, but nowhere past what Blissey was in Gen 2.
In Gen 1, Psychic and Normal Types dominated the playing field. Dark and Steel types were introduced to balance that out. The same thing happened with Fighting and Dragon types in Gen 5 and now Gen 6 is introducing Fairy to rectify that. I see nothing wrong with that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on June 11, 2013, 08:23:22 pm
And three months later you're proven right. So fuck you. My Dragonite is going to get stomped by a Jigglypuff? wat? Either Fairy type is going to need some insane moves, or some insane abilities, because the name inherently makes it sound like a defensive lulhouse for competitive play. Can't wait for Normal/Fairy Eviolite Chansey to troll all over the place. Going to be a nightmare after the rebalancing they seem to be doing
HOLY CRAP I DIDN'T EVEN REMEMBER SAYING THAT!!
:lugoi:
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Post by: Alpaca-San on June 11, 2013, 08:23:50 pm
And three months later you're proven right. So fuck you. My Dragonite is going to get stomped by a Jigglypuff? wat? Either Fairy type is going to need some insane moves, or some insane abilities, because the name inherently makes it sound like a defensive lulhouse for competitive play. Can't wait for Normal/Fairy Eviolite Chansey to troll all over the place. Going to be a nightmare after the rebalancing they seem to be doing
Um, somehow I think a jigglypuff being able to stomp a Dragonite is hyperbole. It might be the big difference in their base stat totals or the fact that Pokemon can learn non-STAB moves.
Fairy types I welcome because Dragons are a really common type to use in Pokemon battles because of how overpowered the type is. The Dragon type is already pretty solid defensively and up until now they had the safest offensive type because Steel was the only type that could resist Dragon moves. Also it finally gives Poison attacks a good target. Poison is a type in dire need of buffing.
I am hoping that water types get nerfed too. Water is even more OP than the dragon type.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 11, 2013, 08:30:55 pm
Now all we need is Poison SE against Water and maybe some kind of nerf to Stealth Rock and we're set.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on June 11, 2013, 08:31:47 pm
Or a grass version of stealth rock to compete with its rock counterpart.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on June 11, 2013, 08:40:20 pm
That... could actually work.
My main gripe about Stealth Rock was always how it can make or break how competitively viable a Pokemon is based on whether or not the Pokemon is weak to or resists Rock types (of course exceptions do exist, Volcarona for example), coupled with how relatively easy it is to set up for maximum effect compared to Spikes and Toxic Spikes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 11, 2013, 09:12:56 pm
I'm just hoping Fairies get some good abilities to them. Seeing as how the greater portion of the Fairy types we know now are good at defense, it seems only fitting that the Fairy type would be defensive by default. As it is, Stealth Rock is pretty much as OP as it gets. With the amount of spinners compared the effective spinblockers, there's really no downfall to getting your rocks set up in the first five turns. Granted Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Stealth Rock are the only entry hazards as of now, I still think that Stealth Rock is too strong currently. I still don't see why pitfall couldn't be a thing. Could be a Ground type move that just makes the opponent unable to move for one-turn on a non-forced switch. Would be a good "entry hazard" that could make things viable now that aren't. But at this point I'm just blathering
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 12, 2013, 05:31:38 am
My idea for Stealth Rock and other entry hazards is to have an ability to destroy entry hazards upon deployment.
For competitive balance, stick it on a weak Pokemon, like how they give Drizzle and Drought to Politoad and Ninetails.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 12, 2013, 05:56:35 am
(http://pokebeach.com/news/0613/axew-horde-encounters.jpg) FOR THE HORDE!!!
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Q - Can you import Pokemon from previous games? A - We are thinking of something. The DS and 3DS can't communicate, but we are working on it.
Q - With IVs and EVs, it's been very difficult to catch the right Pokemon and it is time consuming. Have you considered tweaking the formula to save player time? A - (silence. . . deep in thought), didn't expect anyone to talk about that today (laughs). In Pokemon X and Y we are going to make these hidden specs more visible and easier for players to access.
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Post by: GarchompMatt on June 12, 2013, 11:51:05 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on June 12, 2013, 02:32:11 pm
Serebii just showed some new CoroCoro stuff.
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The first batch of CoroCoro information is seemingly released, though unconfirmed at this time, and this batch showcases more information on the upcoming games, Pokémon X & Y. In this small portion of a scan, it shows a new character called Sana (サナ), who appears to be the character who follows you in the forest within the early trailer. Another image shows a character called Pansy (パンジー), who appears in the anime with Gogoat & Helioptile on July 18th, and the first Gym Leader we know of called Viola (Literally Biora ビオラ), who appears to be a bug Gym Leader in Hakudan City (ハクダンシティ) 13:17: Vivillon's pre-evolutions have been revealed as Kofukimushi & Kofuurai, both of which are Bug-types 13:20: The Lion Cub Pokémon is called Shishiko and is Fire/Normal-type. The flower is Furabebe and is Fairy-type and knows the move Fairy Wind
Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it. Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy). Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items. The professor's English name is Patrice. The Starter final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Fighting, and Water/Dark. The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting. A few attacks will be dual-typed. There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in. You will be able to see a Pokemon's EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs.
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Pancham evolves into Pangoro in the early level 30s. In order to evolve Pancham into Pangoro, you need to have one other Dark-type Pokemon in your party. Pangoro's type is Fighting/Dark. A Pokemon named Inkay evolves into Malimar. To evolve it, you have to hold your 3DS upside-down when it levels up (the 3DS has an accelerometer and gyroscope, so it can detect that). Malimar's type is Dark/Psychic. A Psychic-type Pokemon named Espurr (ESP + purr) evolves into Meowstick (Meow + mystic?). (Sounds like Psychic-type cats. Meowstick's name sounds too similar to Meowth to me though.) Like in B/W you have two rivals - one is friendly and the other is competitive. Your rival that is more friendly gives you his/her fully evolved starter Pokemon after you beat the game. Another professor named Sycamore gives you either Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle. Even though it shows the player riding on a Gogoat in the new trailer, players can't ride on their own Pokemon. What was shown is just an alternate way of getting around Lumiose City and it only works with Gogoat. HMs still exist but there's a lot less of them. Players will be able to see their Pokemon's EVs (probably through the same in-game facility mentioned in the other post). A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it. Draining Kiss is a Fairy-type attack that heals the user for the same amount of damage performed. It has a base power of 60. If the previously revealed forme of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly similar to Mewtwo's original design, the second supposed form of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly/vaguely similar to Mew's design. In case you missed our correction the other day, the Starters' final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.
*whistles*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 12, 2013, 09:33:36 pm
For the longest time I've been on the fence about this, but as of now, I'm going out to buy myself a 3DS and will be pre-ordering definitely Y, maybe X as well
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Post by: Ricepigeon on June 12, 2013, 09:38:56 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 12, 2013, 10:33:29 pm
FRANCE THEME CONFIRMED :P
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Post by: Jexsam on June 13, 2013, 02:33:18 am
Fire/Normal Lion Pokemon.
I swear to God if they fuck up its evolution(s?) I'm going to buy the games angrily.
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Post by: GarchompMatt on June 13, 2013, 08:32:40 am
A Fire type lion? Better start cracking out the Kirby jokes :P
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Post by: Alpaca-San on June 13, 2013, 08:52:27 am
I prefer Viewtiful Joe jokes
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 13, 2013, 10:01:00 am
Never been a fan of lions, and I'm already using Fennekin, so another Fire type would be pointless for me. I'll end up catching and training it just to fill the 'Dex, but meh. Anybody else think the horde battles are going to be more annoying then useful? It'll probably end up like wild doubles did in Gen IV, and you know within the first month, somebody's going to get a Shiny Graveler in a horde, and it's going to blow the fuck up before he can get it alone to huck bawls at it
EDIT: Let me explain another terrible situation: "Whoa! A horde of Pidgey appeared!" Pidgey used Sand Attack! <nickname's> accuracy fell Pidgey used Sand Attack! <nickname's> accuracy fell Pidgey used Sand Attack! <nickname's> accuracy fell Pidgey used Sand Attack! <nickname's> accuracy fell Pidgey used Sand Attack! <nickname's> accuracy fell
At this point you proceed to destroy your 3DS
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 13, 2013, 03:19:30 pm
That is why always hit moves are invented!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 13, 2013, 10:27:45 pm
Too bad only one of them is even competitively viable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 14, 2013, 12:34:03 am
Not for metabattle use, silly! For training purposes!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 14, 2013, 01:12:20 am
That and you gotta wonder what the power drop is going to be. They only showed level 50's raping level 11's. In a one-attack vs two opponents situation, each opponent gets hit with 70% of the power. So imagine facing five, and getting like 35% max against each individual target. Any way you look at it, they're going to have to introduce horde's late-game and do it like they did with Triple/Rotation in Gen V where you can't have them until you get passed point x in the game. Also, DNZRX, imagine swift if you will. 60 base power, infinite accuracy. Now, swift hits all targets on the field, correct? Well, assuming you're getting STAB, then that's 90 base power hitting a target. 35% of that and you're only getting something like 32 base power attacking each individual target. Your better hope is getting something with Aura Sphere (90 base power, infinite accuracy) and picking targets off one by one, because assuming STAB you're getting 135 base power per attack. Even taking five turns each way, you get more from using Aura Sphere and you can also pick off everything that isn't a target you want to capture or switch into for specific EV-Training
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on June 14, 2013, 07:01:58 pm
Here. Have some localization.
Serebii.net said:
Following their reveal in CoroCoro on Wednesday, The Pokémon Company has now announced the US names of the latest Pokémon. First are the two pre-evolutions of Vivillon, Kofukimushi shall be known as Scatterbug which knows String Shot. Kofuurai will be known as Spewpa, which can learn Protect. Then, Shishiko will be known as Litleo, with its signature move known as Noble Roar and Furabebe will be known as Flabébé. Players may see different Flabébé holding flowers of different colors when encountering them in the wild. In addition to this, they have also confirmed various names. The starting town, Asame Town will be called Vaniville Town and Hakudan City shall be known as Santalune City, with the rival characters being Shauna, Tierno, Trevor, Serena (The Female Trainer), and Calem (The Male Trainer) respectively. Pansy, the journalist, shall be known as Alexa while the City Gym Leader, Viola is called Viola. Shauna is the first trainer you meet and is eager to learn about her friends travels. Tierno intends to create a dance team with his Pokémon. Trevor's goal is to complete the Pokédex, and he's the one to give you it. He'll often compare dexes with you. Serena & Calem are your neighbours. You will also receive the Roller Skates in Santalune City
Also, have another trailer
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 19, 2013, 07:57:28 am
This occurred to me just now, but do you think we'll finally get good evolution animation? For the longest time we've had sprites just fading in and out, which for the hardware they were using, was acceptable. But now that we have 3D models, they can't really do that as effectively, because it'd look ugly on models, despite being able to be done better. I'm hoping we finally get dynamic evolution animations like we have in the anime :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 19, 2013, 10:42:46 am
A few possibilities:
-Engulfed in ball of light, ball of light disappears to show evolution.
-Pokémon starts glowing white with plenty of white spheres going around it, bright white flash covers the screen, when lighting returns to normal, Pokémon has evolved.
-They do what they did in Colosseum and XD.
-PIKACHU POKÉVOLVE TO...
-Exactly the same as it's always been, using the "sprites" seen on the Pokémon data screen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 19, 2013, 04:21:18 pm
-Engulfed in ball of light, ball of light disappears to show evolution.
-Pokémon starts glowing white with plenty of white spheres going around it, bright white flash covers the screen, when lighting returns to normal, Pokémon has evolved.
-They do what they did in Colosseum and XD.
-PIKACHU POKÉVOLVE TO...
-Exactly the same as it's always been, using the "sprites" seen on the Pokémon data screen.
At this point I'm pretty sure you're trying to kill any fun that I could've possibly had thinking about them finally doing evolution right. But please not the godawful Colo/XD evolutions
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 19, 2013, 10:35:10 pm
At this point I'm pretty sure you're trying to kill any fun that I could've possibly had thinking about them finally doing evolution right. But please not the godawful Colo/XD evolutions
I do what I can.
Colonel Sanders said:
Captain Cockblock, AWAAAAAY! *woosh*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Wolvegeta on June 30, 2013, 11:08:25 pm
Holy shit, you were right! (http://25.media.tumblr.com/a35947ed37320ea4ef9426dfdd6172f0/tumblr_mp6h5hf93j1r8sc3ro2_500.png)(http://25.media.tumblr.com/b5332672f19278e5284a00f299a0e80c/tumblr_mp6h5hf93j1r8sc3ro1_500.png)
Fortunately, with the right 'mon and attack, they won't be a threat: (http://24.media.tumblr.com/168a0d593f255657f7216c5cd3e2beef/tumblr_mp6h5hf93j1r8sc3ro4_500.png)
Source: http://pokemon-xy-news.tumblr.com/
Also:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/7b13b52824ca52dd1e6e30c32477b099/tumblr_mp6h1n8sSl1r8sc3ro2_500.png) IMMA SEND MAH BUG TO BATTLE BIRDS!!! (freakin' genius)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 30, 2013, 11:37:46 pm
Moreso gen 4/5 news but... possible hint at Ninty/TPCi/GF adding stronger anti-pokesav/pokecheck/pokegen/etc protection?
Currently, there are Pokemon-related smartphone applications on sale that have not been approved by either Nintendo or The Pokemon Company. These unauthorized applications have the capability to create unauthorized game data, utilize unofficial servers, and send hacked Pokemon into game software.
If these hacked Pokemon are sent into the game software, then the game will cease to operate correctly, and in certain case, can also cause the game to cease functioning.
Players are also able to utilize wireless communication functionality to challenge and trade with other players of the Pokemon series. Should a game containing hacked Pokemon use such communication functions, than it may also negatively affect the other player’s game and cause inconveniences to that player, such as causing the game to cease functioning.
Please understand that if any glitches or other inconveniences arise due to non-normal use, including the use of unofficial game data, neither Nintendo nor The Pokemon Company will be able to restore the game data to its original condition.
Furthermore, if use of non-official game data is discovered at game events organized by The Pokemon Company, then that player will be disqualified and will be barred from participating at any and all future events.
We kindly ask that players ensure that they enjoy games in the Pokemon series in accordance with the proper guidelines as written in the instruction manual in order to protect their favorite Pokemon and save data.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 30, 2013, 11:46:08 pm
Good. All those people that simply cheat their perfect teams together are missing the point entirely.
Still, if a cheated Pokémon is visibly legit (EVs and IVs don't go outside the boundaries), how will they know if it's been "created"?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 01, 2013, 02:22:00 am
7 words answers your question: Looking for Zekrom level 9 and under
But in all reality, it's just that some people aren't intelligent with their editors, and end up catching their level 100 shiny Mewtwo on Route 69 at level 69 with IVs of 69 and the perfect nature and EVs. In other words, their small children with access to a computer
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Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on July 01, 2013, 02:29:39 am
EV training can be such a DRAG...so time consuming....ugh. but it is worth it... #lvl100evdefenseditto
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Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 01, 2013, 03:48:41 am
Wait, so no more Pokecheck?! I loved using that site to check for hacks or getting legit parents.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DarkWolf13 on July 01, 2013, 03:58:32 am
I used PokeGen to create my teams without the hassle of EV training and all 31 IVs or to get a certain Hidden Power. I'll never send hacked Pokemon to my game... and if that happens by accident, I'm getting rid of it right away. Second, why do the partners and trainers in the Battle Facilities in Gen IV/V have Pokemon with perfect IVs then?
If they can have Pokemon with perfect IVs, why can't we?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on July 01, 2013, 03:59:53 am
Wait, so no more Pokecheck?! I loved using that site to check for hacks or getting legit parents.
The announcement was in reference to this thing (http://www.pokecreator.com/app/), which costs $0.99 but I wouldn't be surprised if Pokecheck and others got caught in the legal crossfire because of one guy wanting to make a quick buck off of something that has free and better alternatives.
And I agree, it will be a huge loss if Pokecheck and similar sites were taken down and/or rendered unusable for Gen 6.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 01, 2013, 04:15:37 am
Well, time to rely on fixed damage moves and speed checks in order to get right IVs if I can't RNG in XY. Thank goodness my practice in Colosseum is paying off.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DarkWolf13 on July 01, 2013, 04:58:34 am
Meh... I'm happy with the way my Pokemon are anyway. Perfect IV doesn't necessarily mean cheating though it's unfair to others who don't have access to stuff and go through all the trouble of grinding, EV training and IV breeding. But others who have a busy work-life or school-life don't necessarily have time to grind and stuff. If they remove it for Gen VI, I don't care. As long I'm able to transfer my Pokemon to Gen VI and then breed afterwards just to get the nature I want, that's fine with me. I don't even play in tournaments nor play competitively so I don't know why they make competitive battling a big thing. This is just from my view. And as I said before... if PokeGen won't work for Gen VI games... then I'll do the old way before I found out about PokeGen. I usually breed for Pokemon to get maximum Attack/Sp. Atk/Speed (main stats I go for) with the nature I want. I got a Sceptile with maximum attack with Double Kick from breeding. One thing I'll never do and I hope you all won't do it either, CHEAT to get POKERUS. I've obtained Pokerus in Platinum LEGALLY when I was EV training and ever since that happened I spread it up to my Black2 and I WILL spread it to X/Y when I get enough money for a 3DS.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on July 01, 2013, 06:43:18 pm
Source: Serebii.net
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The Global Link has updated with an notice regarding the Pokémon Global Link. First, the Global Link will open up for a special X & Y version on October 12th 2013, after a 12 day long maintenance from the start of October. However, from October 12th 2013, various Pokémon Black, White, Black 2 & White 2 features will go offline. Putting a Pokémon to sleep will go offline on December 10th 2013. The trial version of the Dream World will go offline on October 12th 2013, as will new user registration. The GTS tracking for Gen V ends on January 14th 2014 and Rating Mode on Random Matchup goes offline on January 14th 2014. The ability to do WiFi Memory Link in Black 2 & White 2 also goes offline on January 14th 2014. C-Gear, Musical and Pokédex Skin changing deactivates on January 14th. Waking up your Pokémon to get items and Pokémon also deactivates on January 14th. You will be able to wake your Pokémon up from the game side at any time, but the ability to do so from the Global Link deactivates on January 14th However, using the GTS in the games, Free Rating in the Random Matchup and all the other in-game online features will continue.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on July 04, 2013, 01:02:17 pm
A new Pokemon was revealed during the latest Japan expo.
French name is Monorpale. Japanese name is Hitotsuki. It's Steel/Ghost. Apparently it can unsheath itself in battle.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on July 04, 2013, 01:10:58 pm
That's really cool looking actually.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 04, 2013, 10:49:55 pm
"There was once a fool who inherited a sword..." Well then. Please either tie this new Pokémon into that obscure story from D/P/Pt or at least give it some reason to have the alternate form
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Post by: The Fisher King on July 05, 2013, 03:06:31 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 05, 2013, 03:04:49 pm
English name revealed to be Honedge.
Serebii said:
Following on from its reveal yesterday, the official site has posted a few new details about the new Pokémon, known to them as Hitotsuki. This Pokémon is to be known in English as Honedge and some details. It is now known that Honedge comes into being when a departed spirit possesses a sword that once belonged to humans. It can use the blue cloth attached to its hilt as nimbly as an arm. Pokémon Trainers who carelessly take this blade in hand may find the blue cloth wrapping itself around them and draining their energy! Honedge can also learn Swords Dance. It is 2'07" and weighs 4.4lbs. They also sent some screenshots which have been added to our pre-release screenshot page.
For the love of god GF/Nintendo/TPCi do not make this thing (or its possible evolution) suck. Steel/Ghost is an awesome typing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 05, 2013, 03:41:41 pm
Its shiny color better be Soul Edge.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on July 08, 2013, 07:07:20 pm
Steel/Ghost....
Everyone, meet your new tanking Pokemon!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 11, 2013, 11:51:33 am
CoroCoro leaks.
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Serebii.net said:
Xerneas is Fairy-type, Yveltal is Dark/Flying. Xerneas has an ability called Fairy Aura while Yveltal has one called Dark Aura. Fairy Aura powers up Fairy-type moves while Dark Aura powers up Dark-type moves. Xerneas has a special move called Geo Control and Yveltal one called Death Wing Pancham's evolution is called Goronda (コロンダ). It is the Aggressive Pokémon, is 2.1m tall, weighs 136kg, and has the ability Iron Fist. It is Fighting/Dark-type. It has the move Hammer Arm and a new method of evolution The Squids are called Maika (マーイーカ), the Rotation Pokémon is 0.4m tall weighing 3.5kg, and its evolution Karamanero (カラマネロ) the Reversal Pokémon, is 1.5m tall and 47kg, and both are Dark/Psychic-type Pokémon. Maika has a move called Turn Over which reverses stat changes. It's a Dark-type move. Karamanero has the move Hypnosis. They both have either Suction Cups or Contrary. The pink bird is called Shushup (シュシュップ) and is Fairy-type. It is the Perfume Pokémon, is 0.2m tall and 0.5kg in weight and has the ability of Healer. It knows the move AromaTherapy. It is exclusive to Pokémon Y The puff ball is called Peroppafu (ペロッパフ) and is also a Fairy-type. Its ability is a new one called Sweet Pale which prevents your allies from falling asleep. It's the Cotton Candy Pokémon, is 0.4m/3.5kg and has the new move Drain Kiss. It is exclusive to Pokémon X Honedge has the ability of No Guard Clauncher is exclusive to Pokémon X while Skrelp is exclusive to Pokémon Y There's a new Gym leader, with the robot arms, called Shitoron (シトロン) while the other Gym Leader is called Zakuro (ザクロ). Zakuro is said to be good at sports The professor is called Purataanu (プラターヌ possibly romanised into Platane). He will occasionally battle you. The evil team is called Team Flair/Flare (フレア団). Their purpose is solely to make money The PSS has various new features. First is the HoloCaster, which gives the latest news on the Pokémon Global Link, without needing access. It has a Happy Sign which lets you see feelings/actions of friends. There are special O Powers which work akin to Pass Powers which you can use and receive from other players. Miracle Trade allows for an "exciting trade" with someone from around the world. It also features connectivity with the Global Trade Station CoroCoro is offering special Xerneas & Yveltal figures if you pre-order the games and send in a form
Pancham's evolution is called Goronda (コロンダ). It is the Aggressive Pokémon, is 2.1m tall, weighs 136kg, and has the ability Iron Fist. It is Fighting/Dark-type. It has the move Hammer Arm and a new method of evolution
The Squids are called Maika (マーイーカ), the Rotation Pokémon is 0.4m tall weighing 3.5kg, and its evolution Karamanero (カラマネロ) the Reversal Pokémon, is 1.5m tall and 47kg, and both are Dark/Psychic-type Pokémon. Maika has a move called Turn Over which reverses stat changes. It's a Dark-type move. Karamanero has the move Hypnosis. They both have either Suction Cups or Contrary.
Pokebeach 3 months ago said:
Pancham evolves into Pangoro in the early level 30s. In order to evolve Pancham into Pangoro, you need to have one other Dark-type Pokemon in your party. Pangoro's type is Fighting/Dark.
A Pokemon named Inkay evolves into Malimar. To evolve it, you have to hold your 3DS upside-down when it levels up (the 3DS has an accelerometer and gyroscope, so it can detect that). Malimar's type is Dark/Psychic.
Wait for it......
... any time now....
Spoiler: Corocoro 2 months from today(click to see content)
Mewtwo has a 3rd alternate form in addition to the one revealed previously
Called it. RIP Childhood.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 11, 2013, 03:13:04 pm
Lucky guess?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on July 11, 2013, 06:57:48 pm
For me, mine was ruined when the FIRST new form was shown. :(
I think what crushes it is that they said Mewtwo had "awakened", which (to me) makes it seem like GameFreak are saying the old Mewtwo we know is a lie...
...now, is it me, of have I said this before? :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on July 11, 2013, 07:30:45 pm
I find it retarded that it only takes something like this for your childhood to be ruined.
Were were you people when Gen IV and it's loads of evos happened?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2013, 07:43:20 pm
Sitting in front of my screen wondering why they gave Dusclops an evolution out of all things.
At least everyone else that got an evo needed one... Dusclops and Mewtwo on the other hand...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on July 11, 2013, 07:44:26 pm
It's because I'm the only one on the planet who liked Lickitung and thus found Lickilicky to be absolutely retarded.
Now that we have Mewtwo form with a gamecube drive head, will we be getting a Mewtwo with a Wii drive head?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2013, 07:49:38 pm
I'm actually sort of anticipating 3rd Mewtwo form to ripoff Cell, we already have Frieza and Buu for god's sake.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 11, 2013, 07:58:24 pm
WAIT!
Mewtwo gets a third form?
Where is the source?
Or is someone said it as a joke?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2013, 08:01:14 pm
Check 3-4 pages ago. Its from the same source that leaked Fairy types, Bug type Gym, and Electric type Giga Drain as well as Panchem evolution and Inkay/Malimar being Dark/Psychic, among other things including flipping your 3DS upside down to trigger an evolution
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 11, 2013, 08:03:28 pm
All that's left are the English names and welcome Shin Forme Mewtwo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 11, 2013, 08:05:19 pm
I still stand by my statement that all of those were lucky guesses.
Because I refuse to believe that Mewtwo will get a third form until I get concrete proof.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2013, 08:12:52 pm
How exactly was predicting all of this info with dead-on-balls accuracy a series of lucky guesses? There's a clear cut difference between lucky guesses and information leaks. Given all the recently released info and how it coincides with the leaked info from 3 months ago, the natural inclination is that the remaining leaked info is accurate as well. The best course of action at this point would be to saddle up and prepare for Celltwo's official announcement.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on July 11, 2013, 08:24:02 pm
There is a reason why I never talk to DNZ.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on July 11, 2013, 08:33:29 pm
I don't think it's gonna be Celltwo. I think the next Mewtwo form might look like
Spoiler: this(click to see content)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/yphqw.png)
Spoiler: or this(click to see content)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/192p14.jpg)
Spoiler: or perhaps this(click to see content)
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2hplkie.jpg)
Spoiler: or maybe even this(click to see content)
(http://i44.tinypic.com/2jcj8dj.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 11, 2013, 08:36:48 pm
How exactly was predicting all of this info with dead-on-balls accuracy a series of lucky guesses? There's a clear cut difference between lucky guesses and information leaks. Given all the recently released info and how it coincides with the leaked info from 3 months ago, the natural inclination is that the remaining leaked info is accurate as well. The best course of action at this point would be to saddle up and prepare for Celltwo's official announcement.
I was skeptical about leaked information from before because there is no proof to back them up. Anybody can try to pass off any piece of information as information leaks without proof. Heck, I can say that I have heard from inside sources that Pikachu's getting an alternative evolution and try to pass that off as leaked information without concrete proof.
The point is, I will remain skeptical until the proof comes out. I have seen too many cases where people make a fool of themselves about information they received that proved to be false later. I do not want to be one of them in this case.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2013, 08:40:34 pm
Around 25-33% of the leaked info has so far been confirmed by official announcements within the past 3 months since the leak occured, either from Nintendo/TPCi themselves or from Corocoro. What you have here is the exact polar opposite of The Boy Who Cried Wolf, not some jerkwad waving around a banner with Pikablu, Anthrax, and Charcolt on it. What more proof do you want?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 11, 2013, 08:46:25 pm
mewtwo has another new form besides bucket holder?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2013, 08:48:14 pm
mewtwo has another new form besides bucket holder?
According to the leaked info on Pokebeach that I posted a while back, yes.
And just for reference sake, I'll repost it here, including everything that has been officially confirmed so far in bold:
Pokebeach.com from May 11th - May 13th said:
Fairy will be a new type. It is weak to Poison and Steel, immune to Dragon, super effective against Dragon, Dark, and Fighting, and Fire and Psychic-type Pokemon take half damage from it. (WPM Note: Fairy is confirmed, super effectiveness against Dragon is confirmed.) Sylveon is Fairy-type. Some older Pokemon will be reclassified to Fairy, such as Mawile (Steel/Fairy). (WPM Note: Sylveon being Fairy and old Pokemon being reclassified is confirmed.) Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items. The professor's English name is Patrice. The Starter final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting. (WPM Note: Two days later [on Monday], the source informed me he had mixed up the secondary types of Chespin and Froakie's final evolutions. This bullet point reflects the correction.) The first Gym is Bug, the second is Fairy, and the fourth is Fighting. (WPM Note: First Gym being Bug is confirmed.) A few attacks will be dual-typed. (WPM Note: Many people are interpreting this as an attack shooting out two types at once, but it could just be that the attack switches types under certain conditions or something like that.) There will be a new type of battling style that Flying-type Pokemon and Pokemon with Levitate can participate in. (WPM Note: Confirmed. He also specifically named them "Sky Battles" but I missed putting that into the original post.) You will be able to see a Pokemon's EVs at a certain in-game facility. You will be able to boost the EVs through mini-games. It will take about two hours to get one stat to max EVs. (WPM Note: Gamefreak confirmed there will be greater visibility of EVs.)
Pancham evolves into Pangoro in the early level 30s. In order to evolve Pancham into Pangoro, you need to have one other Dark-type Pokemon in your party. Pangoro's type is Fighting/Dark. A Pokemon named Inkay evolves into Malimar. To evolve it, you have to hold your 3DS upside-down when it levels up (the 3DS has an accelerometer and gyroscope, so it can detect that). Malimar's type is Dark/Psychic. A Psychic-type Pokemon named Espurr (ESP + purr) evolves into Meowstick (Meow + mystic?). (Sounds like Psychic-type cats. Meowstick's name sounds too similar to Meowth to me though.) Like in B/W you have two rivals - one is friendly and the other is competitive. Your rival that is more friendly gives you his/her fully evolved starter Pokemon after you beat the game. Another professor named Sycamore gives you either Bulbasaur, Charmander, or Squirtle. Even though it shows the player riding on a Gogoat in the new trailer, players can't ride on their own Pokemon. What was shown is just an alternate way of getting around Lumiose City and it only works with Gogoat. HMs still exist but there's a lot less of them. Players will be able to see their Pokemon's EVs (probably through the same in-game facility mentioned in the other post). A new move, Belch, is a Poison-type attack that has a base power of 120. The user must consume a held Berry to perform it. Draining Kiss is a Fairy-type attack that heals the user for the same amount of damage performed. It has a base power of 60. If the previously revealed forme of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly similar to Mewtwo's original design, the second supposed form of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly/vaguely similar to Mew's design. In case you missed our correction the other day, the Starters' final evolutions are Fire/Psychic, Grass/Dark, and Water/Fighting.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 11, 2013, 09:30:33 pm
Cool your jets, Ricepigeon.
Like I said, I only remain skeptical until I see proof because of past experiences and it is a good habit to practice.
It is how I roll.
Anyway...
What is with all of these Dark Types?
Do they counter act Fairy type or what?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 11, 2013, 10:16:36 pm
Oh, the professor's name also matches!
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Post by: GarchompMatt on July 11, 2013, 10:45:12 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on July 11, 2013, 11:58:09 pm
Yo I fucking love that panda. Ursaring is one of my favorite Pokemon and this thing looks like an evil Ursaring.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on July 12, 2013, 01:13:37 pm
If only Gen IV also introduced a bear Pokemon we could make an entire team of bears now. Bears are awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 12, 2013, 05:44:18 pm
New trailer
Serebii.net said:
Following their reveal in CoroCoro yesterday, The Pokémon Company has now announced the US names of the latest Pokémon. First, the evolution of Pancham, Goronda is to be called Pangoro. The first squid Pokémon, Maika, will be known in English as Inkay, with its move Turn Over being called Topsy-Turvy. Its evolution, Karamanero, will be known as Malamar. Next, the Pokémon Peroppafu will be known as Swirlix with its move Drain Kiss being called Draining Kiss and its ability, Sweet Veil, shall keep its name Finally, the Pokémon Shushup will be known as Spritzee. The New Pokémon Page has been updated with various details about each Pokémon. Next comes the details of Xerneas and Yveltal. Xerneas' ability is to keep its name of Fairy Aura, while its move Geo Control shall be called Geomancy. Yveltal's ability also keeps its Japanese name of Dark Aura while its move, Death Wing, shall be called Oblivion Wing. In addition to this, they have also confirmed various names of characters. The Professor, Purataanu, shall be known in English as Professor Sycamore. Team Flare will keep its Japanese name and finally, the two Gym Leaders, Shitoron and Zakuro shall be called Clemont & Grant respectively Clemont has a sister called Bonnie. Miracle trade is known as Wonder Trade and allows you to receive Pokémon without knowing what you'll get. O-Powers keep their name. The Holo Caster is also used to communicate with other characters in the game. For the first time in the main Pokémon series, Pokémon X and Pokémon Y allow you to receive a Pokémon not yet registered in your Pokédex via GTS trade! Some O-Powers will temporarily increase a Pokémon’s stats, while others make it easier to catch wild Pokémon or increase the Experience Points gained in battle. You can also take photos in the game that can be shared and posted to the Pokémon Global Link. Milestones in your journey can also be shared on it, and can then be posted to social networks. Participants of the upcoming Global Showdown WiFi Competition will gain entry to XY Test Competition
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on July 12, 2013, 06:04:41 pm
Ooh..not Patrice. I did think it'd be a tad odd for them to break out of the tree/plant naming scheme for the professors.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 12, 2013, 07:11:04 pm
WHO THE FUCK CARES HE LOOKS NICE IS WHAT IM SAYING
Pangoro does indeed look boss. And since I don't battle competivly, slowness doesn’t matter to me. (Although I still want to organise a small tournament for us)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 12, 2013, 09:18:26 pm
If they keep weather, I hope they add some more weather types to buff other underplayed types. Here are some I thought up off the top of my head.
Pollution - Poison attacks do x1.5 damage - Water does x0.75 damage (water can ALWAYS be nerfed) - Residual damage every turn except for Poison Types, Ghost Types, and... something else, I dunno. - Gunk Shot gets 100% Accuracy - Poison immunity is removed, is treated as "Not very effective."
Divine Winds - Boosts power of Psychic, Fairy, and Flying types by 1.5x - Reduces power of Fighting moves by 0.75x - All Pokemon heal a small amount of health per turn except for Dark, Steel, and Fighting types - Immunity to Psychic is removed, changed to "Not Very Effective."
I dunno, that's just off the top of my head, but if they're going to keep weather, might as well add more to make more Pokemon viable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 12, 2013, 09:24:44 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/VHY4Ig2.png)
:dadadadaa:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 12, 2013, 09:24:58 pm
Oh believe me.
Weather's staying. Otherwise, Pokemon like Groudon and Kyogre would lose all meaning.
Weather is a big part of Pokemon, especially in Ruby and Sapphire. It would be very difficult to remove a big part of your series like that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 12, 2013, 09:27:02 pm
Pangoro for Smash Bros 4!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 12, 2013, 09:27:31 pm
Nobody said anything about removing weather? Jango was just suggesting new ones especially since water types & rain are currently OP and poison can use any kind of buff it can get.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 12, 2013, 09:29:28 pm
Just because it looks tough does not mean it is tough.
Dark/Fighting has quite a few weaknesses, including other fighting types and flying types.
Fighting types are common and so are flying types. And the panda looks slow, so it could be swept away by a fast and powerful sweeper!
Fire types are common and yet people still use Scizor. Just because something has a double weakness doesn't make it bad. Hell look at Volcarona.
Anyway: (http://storage.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/TeamFlarescreenshot_thumb.jpg) I love the design of these guys
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 12, 2013, 09:32:14 pm
Or Celebi. Thing has 7 weaknesses yet it's still an excellent Pokemon competitively. Typing alone doesn't dictate how good or bad a Pokemon is (unless you're Bastiodon, Probopass or Aggron)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 12, 2013, 09:37:14 pm
I've never used Celebi. What's it like competivly?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 12, 2013, 09:38:52 pm
I've never used Celebi. What's it like competivly?
Special Wall, Special Sweeper, Revenge Killer, Baton Passer, Status Absorber, take your pick.
Thing gets Stealth Rock and U-turn, too.
Edit: http://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/celebi
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 12, 2013, 09:52:48 pm
Damn. I need to get me a Celebi
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 12, 2013, 09:56:23 pm
Where were you during HG/SS? It'll take a long time for another Celebi event.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 12, 2013, 09:58:46 pm
https://www.pokecheck.org/?p=search&pokemon=251
You can thank me later
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 12, 2013, 10:02:15 pm
I haven't got my 3DS at the moment but thanks.
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Post by: GarchompMatt on July 12, 2013, 10:49:29 pm
They look like agents. No doubt they are elite. ELITE HEAT AGENTS!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 13, 2013, 03:19:05 pm
New Pokemon?
Serebii.net said:
My friend gin went to see the Pokémon movie today and can confirm the Pokémon Orotto, which we first posted about two weeks ago, exists. It's described as an evil looking tree Pokémon and was seen within a horde battle in the trailer. It is not currently known when this Pokémon will be officially revealed but we'll provide full details when it is
There's some sketches but they're pretty crappy (http://1.2.3.9/bmi/serebii.net/oorotto1th.jpg)
So yeah. Evil tree Pokémon
Also:
Serebii.net said:
Following on from yesterday's reveal of five new Pokémon and features, which you can check out below, and the reveal of Oorotto two weeks ago and the confirmation last night, we have a few new details from the trailer that aired with the movie, Extremespeed Genesect: Mewtwo Awakens. Other than the inclusion of the Pokémon Oorotto, much of the trailer included details which we already knew. However, the trailer did include footage of the main character on a bike, indicating that they haven't been replaced by rollerskates and riding of Pokémon
So the bike is still in the game. So there's 5 different methods of movement: Walking Running Pokeriding Rollerskating And Biking.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Prototype God on July 13, 2013, 08:16:37 pm
Evil Tree Pokemon? I know im naming mine ExDeath.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 13, 2013, 08:18:32 pm
Please be a Sudowoodo evo, or a branch evo for Bonsly.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 14, 2013, 09:25:11 pm
Evil trees!
Finally, to beat the crap out of people's Pokemon with more trees!
Looks like a Sudowoodo evo. It really needs one since it is practically outclassed by many Pokemon even at the things it is supposed to be good at.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on July 14, 2013, 10:34:40 pm
It certainly has a Sudowoodo evolution air in the design but I really doubt it. Would be good for Sudowoodo thought... you know, to be useful.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 16, 2013, 03:29:08 am
Sudowoodo seemed too much like a happy Pokémon to evolve into that thing. Although I guess they could kind of pull the Dodrio thing, where Bonsly was fear, Sudowoodo was joy, and this thing is... menace? Evil? Idk. Unless this thing is fairly decent, I can't really see myself using it. As of right now I've got about half my team planned, and none of it are this. Hoping GameFreak/The Pokémon Company don't try to give it the Ghost typing to account for it now being evil. That would kind of break it because if it is a Sudowoodo evo, that would be your own Stealth Rocks, and then a spinblocker with decent resistances. Still outclassed by Honedge thanks to resistance to Dragon and whatnot, but still
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on July 16, 2013, 04:41:21 am
Because it would make sense for a rock posing as a tree to evolve into a ghost/grass pokemon.
Just because it's a tree doesn't mean it's Sudowoodo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on July 16, 2013, 04:45:22 am
^ That´s what I say it would be pretty unlikely... oh well. Ghost/Grass is quite the good type combination I gotta say.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 16, 2013, 09:36:14 pm
I never said anything about Grass? I just said if they added a sub-Ghost typing. Hence the ability to maintain Stealth Rocks while still being a spinblocker. Mgbenz, you're drunk, go home :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on July 19, 2013, 11:26:57 am
You guys ready for some speculation? (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/07/18/pokmon-developer-game-freak-teases-a-new-collaboration-game/)
Quote
“That popular game that is played around the world, will be reborn in a surprising collaboration!”
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 19, 2013, 01:04:16 pm
Hoenn confirmed?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 20, 2013, 05:08:49 am
I can't guarantee much, but I can almost 100% say it isn't Hoenn. Were it Hoenn, you would expect it to be the silhouette of some form of Hoenn Pokémon. Trying any form of angles of the starters or main legendaries, or even mixes of them can't really get you the image they gave. It looks more like a silhouette of some small horse thing. Almost like a Blitzle with less legs, and different ears. Once again, can't ever be 100% but I'm almost certain this isn't going to be news of a Hoenn remake But if it were I would probably cry tears of joy for the remake of the game that introduced me to Pokémon and led to me today
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on July 20, 2013, 09:49:38 pm
It's a collaboration with another franchise. How in the blazing hell does it mean it's Hoenn?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 22, 2013, 04:24:23 am
Pokemon Smash aired today.
Nothing particularly new, but we do see that many features are returning, say the least.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 22, 2013, 12:00:24 pm
It is 2013 and we still can't have accurate surfing models? The fuck?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 22, 2013, 04:20:16 pm
It is 2013 and we still can't have accurate surfing models? The fuck?
Well...
Considering that there are hundreds of Pokemon that can learn surf, would it really be worth the effort to make animations and models for every single Pokemon that can potentially learn surf?
This site has new "leaked" information, but I do believe it is all fake. In fact, many people are poking more than a few holes in the story.
Quoting from a commenter:
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(̿▀̿ ̿Ĺ̯̿̿▀̿ ̿)̄ I don't really believe any of it. For one, if they are real, I've just been majorly spoiled... :'(
Two, what happened to the supposed Fighting-type Gym that was supposed to be fifth in line?
Three, the list of Pokémon seems too fan-happy. As in, it caters to the wants of Poké fans a lil' too much.
Four, Utter Darkness?? That's a rather looooong name for a move. What's the letter cap, again? Also, isn't the Dark-type more about fighting dirty (as opposed to the Fighting-type fighting fairly) and less about... evil/darkness? (I would think a name like Pitch Black or Blackout would make more sense, especially because of the letter cap)
Five, there seems to be a lot of three stage evolution lines in his list. That seems more suspicious than believable to me.
Six, he knows the names to a bunch of "Pokémon" that seem to be encountered during the meat of the game, but cannot remember the name for the unannounced rodent Pokémon who you encounter right at the beginning of the journey? I would think that Pokémon's name would be the FIRST one you'd remember. ( ಠ_ಠ) ...Seriously?
Seven, why the hell would someone with sooo much information be willing to risk their jobs (and possibly be charged one hell of a fine) just to give away some information to the franchise's fans (fans who can honestly wait til October)? Are we really supposed to believe that he's willing to give us the goods, ask for nothing in return, and take the brunt of his error to the face? I would think someone with THIS much information would have enough respect for the company to NOT unleash the kraken of spoilers upon us fans who are eager to bite upon any bait that looks remotely close to the Pokémon X & Y worm.
It's all way too fan-made to me. I think this guy's just bored and wants to see discussion rise up from his imagination's creations, as is any other "leaker." Didn't the first batch of PokéBeach rumors say there will be only one Eeveelution this generation? If not, I'd still think Game Freak would come up with a "Drakeon" before they would a "Toxeon" since Dragon-type is next in line on the Eeveelution train. If you take time to closely examine these rumors, you might find some other things to be skeptical about.
So, yeah... I guess you can say... I'm not convinced. :/ Or IAMNOTCONVINCED.
(╯°Д°)╯ ︵ ᴚƎʞ∀Ǝ˥ƎH⊥W∀I
P.S.: Remember this believable guy...? http://i.imgur.com/J6CFimX.png
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on July 22, 2013, 04:36:07 pm
It's likley for much of the same reasons follower Pokemon probably aren't in the game - most models can't be reused because of the difference in art style between field and battle graphics - not to mention the scale issues with fitting the player on very small Pokémon and fitting very large Pokémon on the map, and the Pokémon we've seen in both places (ex. Gogoat) have simpler models on field maps to accommodate for everything else that needs to be rendered.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 22, 2013, 05:48:24 pm
Quote
Mawile, Sableye, Farfetch’d, Dunsparce and Qwilfish all receive evolutions
FUCK YES! God let this be true
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 23, 2013, 05:04:32 am
Ah yes.
Everyone knows that they need some power boosts.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on July 23, 2013, 05:07:44 am
Killing that thing is already difficult as it is =(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on July 23, 2013, 05:26:26 am
Oh god that "rumor" list again. How convenient for every Pokemon that people want an evolution for to have an evolution. And those starter evo names are retarded so are every other of the rumored names. Looks like names that Pokemon fan games can come up with.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on July 23, 2013, 05:27:28 am
Oh god that "rumor" list again. How convenient for every Pokemon that people want an evolution for to have an evolution. And those starter evo names are retarded so are every other of the rumored names. Looks like names that Pokemon fan games can come up with.
There is a Pokemon with the official name of Talonflame.
Think about that for a second.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on July 23, 2013, 05:34:48 am
I'm actually talking about the random mixture of words that are common in Pokemon fan games.
Though I don't see anything wrong with Talonflame. :/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on July 23, 2013, 10:53:15 pm
"Chinken?" So wait, a hedgehog/chipmunk evolves into a chicken? Lol, nope.
Though I don't see anything wrong with Talonflame. :/
It's because it's two full words slapped together. No fancy mixing or anything and it doesn't sound nice to say, either.
Sandile Bronzong Treecko
All names consisting of just two words, but they're not called Sandcrocodile, Bronzegong or Treegecko, because the former breaks the character limit, and because they sound terrible.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 24, 2013, 04:01:12 am
Tell me how to make Talonflame "sound good." Anyways, as it is, I read Bronzegong and Bronzebong, and I chuckled Also trololo solitaire and horse racing from Game Freak is trololo and hopefully means that they're busy making games we want. Like, y'know, Hoenn remake, maybe just a game with a few cross-gens a la (Heart)Gold and (Soul)Silver going back to Kanto and whatnot. Would be interesting, and would be a good reason to throw away all the bullshit ideas nobody really wants in the game that are only there to take up space. Going to different regions is always better
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on July 24, 2013, 04:22:04 am
Talonflame sounds fine who cares if it's two full words slapped together so it Primeape, Beedrill, Sandslash, Butterfree, etc. and i don't see anyone complaining about them.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on July 24, 2013, 05:00:02 am
Primeape is a clever play on words.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on July 24, 2013, 06:01:03 am
Yea Primeape isn't a very good example but it was just the first Pokemon to come to mind with 2 full words together for it's name
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on July 24, 2013, 09:46:40 pm
Butterfree is not made up of "butter" and "free". It's "butterfly" and "free", so you'd get Butterflyfree :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 25, 2013, 04:12:38 am
It's not the idea that it's two words spliced partially, I do believe the idea was you could pull two full words from the name of the Pokémon. Also, I was never saying Talonflame didn't sound nice, I was just challenging Matt, who never replied to the challenge, to try to make it "sound nice" via what he had said to be his standards Also, does anyone know the monthly date that Coro Coro releases? I have a Japanese friend who could probably send me scans within a day
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 31, 2013, 03:53:31 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on August 08, 2013, 05:09:51 pm
And now... Something to freak you all out. http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://www.serebii.net/corocoro8132.jpg) This aren't 100% confirmed to be real. But then again, this would be as Corocoro said, a "big scoop".
... Well, Uber tier just got a whole lot bigger. ಠ_ಠ
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on August 08, 2013, 05:22:41 pm
Childhood ruined.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
seems pretty interesting i like where this maybe headed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on August 08, 2013, 05:26:32 pm
What the fuck happened to "Mega" Absol's face.
Blaziken doesn't look half bad though, but the rest look dumb.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on August 08, 2013, 05:30:34 pm
Hell yeah Digivolutions up in this bitch! I like!
Come on MegaYanmega!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on August 08, 2013, 05:32:47 pm
The fudge?
What the heck I saw?
More alternative forms and not just for legendaries?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 08, 2013, 05:33:54 pm
https://twitter.com/SerebiiNet/status/365494589949349888 100% confirmed. I dunno how to feel about this
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on August 08, 2013, 05:36:25 pm
They weren't kidding when they said the news would be historical.
I'm completely ok with the idea and I'm now just sitting back and watch all the chaos unfold.
EDIT: Btw, the rumor of receiving the Kanto startes makes sense now. Prepare for MegaVenusaur, MegaBlastoise and MegaCharizard.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on August 08, 2013, 05:38:42 pm
Oh these are Mega forms i thought they were fusion's i feel dumb now. Mega Flareon so Flareon isn't garbage anymore please.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 08, 2013, 05:39:02 pm
You have no idea how fun it is watching Gamefaqs and tumblr explode with rage. Also there's a Torchic event being released when X and Y gets released that holds a new item called Blaziken Knight.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on August 08, 2013, 05:39:38 pm
I like the idea though. It means that crappy third evolutions still have a ray of hope. And yeah, homie Mawile unsurprisingly got an Evo. Crossing fingers for Lapras ,Zagoone and Seviper.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on August 08, 2013, 05:39:56 pm
Wait.
What other Pokemon would get megaforms?
Maybe Pikachu?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 08, 2013, 05:41:40 pm
Guys. Do you know what this means? Eviolite Absol.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on August 08, 2013, 05:44:15 pm
Dude eviolite Mewtwo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on August 08, 2013, 05:45:28 pm
You have no idea how fun it is watching Gamefaqs and tumblr explode with rage. Also there's a Torchic event being released when X and Y gets released that holds a new item called Blaziken Knight.
But this will make choosing Fennekin pointless damn oh well I'll use him anyway and Charmander if that original starter thing is true.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on August 08, 2013, 05:46:21 pm
Smogon's exploding with rage right now!
In fact, everyone's exploding with rage!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 08, 2013, 05:47:57 pm
Im still using Fennekin MegaBlaziken be damned And the old starter thing is post game apparently.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on August 08, 2013, 06:13:55 pm
Btw Dedenne and Horubii confirms Pokexperto's list.
Dianshii (ディアンシー) — Possibly a deer Pokémon. It’s name could come from deer + fancy + antsy. Hariboogu (ハリボーグ) — Most likely the evolution of Chespin — Hari (ハリ) comes from pin/needle, boogu (ボーグ) or bogue, is the name of the shell of a chestnut is French. Thanks to belmad for this tip-off! Gekogashira (ゲコガシラ) — Possibly from gecko + boss. Gashira means either head or boss. Possibly a Froakie evolution. Borukenion (ボルケニオン) — Probably Volcanyon — likely boruke (ボルケ) from volcano and nion (ニオン) from canyon. Dedenne (デデンネ) Horubii (ホルビー) — Likely comes from horu (ホル) to dig + bee. Nyaonikusu (ニャオニクス) — Probably Meowstick, as mentioned in a previous leak Burigaron (ブリガロン) — Maybe a blizzard wolf: buri (ブリ) from blizzard (burizaado) + garo (ガロ / 牙狼) meaning fanged wolf. It could also come from garou (餓狼) meaning starving wolf. Jigarude (ジガルデ) — Is possibly from Jiga (ジガ / 自我), which means ego. Mafokushii (マフォクシー) — Is possibly an evolution of Fennekin: Mafoxy Fuupa (フーパ) — fuu (フー) is most likely wind, pa (パ) could be many things. Gekkouga (ゲッコウガ) — Gekkou (ゲッコウ) means moonlight + ga (ガ) is moth. Literally moonlight moth. Torimian (トリミアン) Teerunaa (テールナー) — Possibly related to Gekkouga. Teeru (テール) means tail and runaa (ルナー) means lunar.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 08, 2013, 06:24:22 pm
This games is more leakier than Gen 5. Geez.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on August 08, 2013, 06:26:53 pm
Burigaron (ブリガロン) — Maybe a blizzard wolf: buri (ブリ) from blizzard (burizaado) + garo (ガロ / 牙狼) meaning fanged wolf. It could also come from garou (餓狼) meaning starving wolf.
Sweet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on August 08, 2013, 06:56:19 pm
Looool this is silly as fuck, but if you haven't embraced Pokemon as a silly series by now you're missing the point. Mega Blaziken and Lucario look like shitty overdesigned Deviantart things, I love it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on August 08, 2013, 07:03:25 pm
serebii said:
MegaAmpharos is Electric/Dragon and has the ability Mold Breaker
I don't even know what Ampharos was supposed to be anyway, so why not.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on August 08, 2013, 07:13:01 pm
why is it necessary to make pokemon digivolve
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on August 08, 2013, 07:17:24 pm
To bypass the evolution limit.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on August 08, 2013, 07:21:53 pm
They make rules though. Did ever say that two evolutions always had to be the max?I don't see the point in making a new form of evolution just because.
Whatever it is, I hope it isn't some weird convoluted method.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on August 08, 2013, 07:25:46 pm
Well we went more than 15 years with only having two stages of evolution. It has never been officially stated but we consider it an unwritten rule.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on August 08, 2013, 07:27:36 pm
I am kind of hoping that Evolite works though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on August 08, 2013, 07:38:38 pm
If my StallTwo could use Evolite...
...My god
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 08, 2013, 07:44:43 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on August 08, 2013, 07:46:13 pm
OMG!!OMGOMG!OMGOM!
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
XD
Okay I'm done. I just..can't...XD
EDIT: Oh wait, is that real? It's not on Serebii.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 08, 2013, 07:47:57 pm
Lol
I seriously think Game Freak is running out of ideas man. Remember Garbodor from Black & White :freak:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on August 08, 2013, 07:48:04 pm
A starter getting a new evolution? Pokemon getting a Digimon treatment?
I'm... not okay with this.
I suppose in theory I could simply refuse to use them much like I did Magnezone and its more ridiculous Gen4 ilk (I'm not competitive so it doesn't hurt me at all) but at a certain point, when one is ignoring an increasing number of dumb features, one starts to wonder why one is even bothering anymore.
Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go fire up my rom of Pokemon Crystal and sob while drinking orange cream vodka and remembering "the good ol' days."
EDIT: Actually I don't immediately hate that Jynx evo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 08, 2013, 07:49:20 pm
What if thats MegaJynx? Anyway re:Mega Evolution. Lucario looks ok I guess. And my girlfriend likes them so.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on August 08, 2013, 07:51:36 pm
I seriously think Game Freak is running out of ideas man. Remember Garbodor from Black & White :freak:
*Gamefreak does something new *Runs out of ideas
Ok
Btw, don't let the word Mega throw you off and immediately compare it to Digimon. It's not like it's a unique feature to Digimon.
EDIT: So apparently the mega forms can only be activated in-battle using a hold item. There goes eviolite. :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 08, 2013, 07:53:28 pm
Oh god the stupidness has spread here.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on August 08, 2013, 07:55:56 pm
Mega Swalot. I want it, you know you want it, Gamefreak knows we want it. Make it happen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on August 08, 2013, 07:56:51 pm
If it's MegaJynx then I guess I'll just have to make case-by-case exceptions based on how stupid I think a given Pokemon is. For example, MegaLucario is stupid, but MegaAbsol looks kinda neat.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on August 08, 2013, 07:58:35 pm
Good point. I can't believe I forgot Mr. Mime existed :V
Sooo let me get this straight. Those mega pokemon are new forms right? not evolutions?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 08, 2013, 09:28:25 pm
According to PokeJungle and Bulbapedia.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on August 08, 2013, 10:31:07 pm
Seeing as how Mewtwo can change into it's "Mega Form" you'd expect it to be able to change back, and this would lead you to believe that things like Blaziken could change forward and back as well. So yeah, these are definitely forms. PokéDigiMon was bound to happen at some point
EDIT: And after a bit of searching and some translation via a friend, apparently they happen through items? Anyone have a link to verification? If this is really a thing, I'm curious if it's like Giratina-O where it gets the form as long as it's holding said item, or if the item activates at a certain point, or whatever
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 08, 2013, 10:43:18 pm
EDIT: And after a bit of searching and some translation via a friend, apparently they happen through items? Anyone have a link to verification? If this is really a thing, I'm curious if it's like Giratina-O where it gets the form as long as it's holding said item, or if the item activates at a certain point, or whatever
It was quoted from Pokejungle a few posts back, but yes, they work pretty much the same way the Griseous Orb does for Giratina (so that would technically make Giratina-O MegaGiratina).
So much for that 416 HP, 418 Def/418 Sp.Def Eviolite Mewtwo idea... Not to mention Choice Band Adaptability MegaLucario
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 09, 2013, 12:17:01 am
I'm still waiting on the backwards platform news, I really want to use old Gen Pokes just to see their Shin forms with past moves!
I'm more surprised Ampharos gets this treatment even though it looks silly.
If anything, the news of Speed Boost Blaziken now closer to being legit caught my interest. Really need to finish up my remaining 3rd Gen games.
Also this Gen's Pikachu looks kinda cute.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on August 09, 2013, 12:34:48 am
Lol, this Mega Pokemon stuff is way too silly... they look like they went to the best Pokemon stylist or something, gorgeous haircuts but that´s all...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 09, 2013, 01:28:00 am
L'Oréal. Because Ampharos is worth it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 09, 2013, 02:14:51 am
I'm still waiting on the backwards platform news, I really want to use old Gen Pokes just to see their Shin forms with past moves!
Didn't they say they were working on backwards compatibility encountered a hardware limitation that prevents the DS from communicating with the 3DS?
I'mo they should just do something similar to what they did with the dream world in Gen 5 and have you link a Gen 5 card/DS and a gen 6 card/3DS to the same account. After all, you remember what happened last time they had a hardware limitation blocking cross-gen compatibility right?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 09, 2013, 02:32:30 am
They should just make a Pokémon Box app for 3DS. And the 3DS and DS games can connect (see:Dream Radar)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Urrnge on August 09, 2013, 04:27:47 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 09, 2013, 06:59:28 am
....
Damn.
Just add some hair on Ampharos with a bad photoshop job and you've got a mega form ._.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on August 09, 2013, 08:09:51 am
I dunno about you guys but this is the only mega form I want. (http://i.imgur.com/2IciMY2.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 09, 2013, 08:49:21 am
I want Mega Snorlax who will give that poser Slaking a run for his money
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 09, 2013, 03:12:20 pm
Mega Evolution trailer
Lucario confirmed as team member forever.
Serebii.net said:
Following their reveal in CoroCoro yesterday, The Pokémon Company has now announced the US names of the latest Pokémon and features. First, the Mega Evolutions; MegaMewtwo, MegaBlaziken, MegaAmpharos, MegaMawile, MegaLucario and MegaAbsol retain their Japanese names. Lucario needs an item called Lucarionite First, the rabbit Pokémon Horubii is to be called Bunnelby . Its new special ability, Cheek Pouches, has the name of Cheek Pouch. If a Pokémon with this Ability eats a Berry during battle, it will not only reap the benefit from the Berry, but the Pokémon will also be able to regain HP. Next, the Electric/Fairy-type Pokémon Dedenne will be known as Dedenne . It Nuzzle, which looks cute as the user nuzzles up to a target with its cheeks fully charged, but it’s quite dangerous! Nuzzle will do damage while paralyzing the opponent. Finally, the pre-evolution of Gogoat, Meekuru will be known as Skiddo. It is rideable in the field Next, the Gym Leader Koruni will be known in English as Korrina. She is the Gym Leader in Shalour City where the Tower of Mastery is Super Training or S.T. is being introduced in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, allowing players to help their Pokémon grow stronger when they’re not in battle. On the Touch Screen of the Nintendo 3DS system, players can have their Pokémon participate in Super Training, activities that will increase a Pokémon’s base stats, the underlying values that define its HP, Attack, Defense, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def, and Speed stats. One Super Training activity involves having Pokémon train by facing huge Pokémon-shaped Balloon Bots in a virtual space, with both sides trying to shoot balls into the opponent’s goal. Using the Circle Pad and Touch Screen to avoid shots from the Balloon Bots while landing their own in the goal, players will enjoy this action-packed feature while increasing their Pokémon’s base stats to help them become stronger for battle. For a more casual way to help Pokémon strengthen their base stats, Core Training lets players set up training bags, earned by completing Super-Training Regimens, for Pokémon in their party to use. Pokémon will work on Core Training by themselves, raising their stats on their own. By tapping on the Touch Screen during a Core Training session, players can help their Pokémon increase their base stats, too. Players will be able to see how their Pokémon are doing at their Core Training at any time from the main Super Training screen. EVs can now be tracked by an Effort o Meter which shows the progress of the Pokémon and the amount in can still have.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 09, 2013, 04:13:49 pm
Shin Forme Mewtwo now makes sense to me.
If I recall from the leak list, it takes about 2+ hours to reach 252 EVs in one stat. And happy with the fact now EVs are visible.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 09, 2013, 04:18:30 pm
At this point, the leaks are 100% confirmed. Fire/Psychic Fennekin here I come.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 10, 2013, 12:41:03 am
I dunno if it's the way it's worded, but is it saying that one can increase the actual base stat itself, or is it like EV training for people who have no idea what they're doing?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 10, 2013, 01:59:54 am
Its basically EV training for casuals
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Some Guy on August 10, 2013, 03:03:14 am
Okay so I was looking at the Mega Evolutions and somehow an image of Shuckle's head in an Earthworm Jim suit popped up in my head. I then proceeded to make this.
(http://i.imgur.com/1QHC8jK.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Luis Alejandro on August 10, 2013, 05:30:20 am
Give marrowak an ubber form Plz
And farfechd
And raichu
A serious manly form version of dragonknight
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on August 10, 2013, 05:36:30 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 10, 2013, 08:44:09 am
That video seemed pretty cool. MegaBlaziken's hair looks like Heihachi Mishima's :smug:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hoshi on August 10, 2013, 05:41:37 pm
These Mega formes look so fucking stupid. It's amazing that they're even trying to push them.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 10, 2013, 07:13:26 pm
Well your not gonna like this (https://pokebeach.com/news/0813/mega-kangaskhan.jpg)
pokebeach.com said:
In its mega form, Kangaskhan has a new ability called Parental Bond that allows both it and its child to attack. This allows Kangaskhan to use the same attack twice in one turn.
And suddenly Kangaskhan got useful
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 10, 2013, 07:23:07 pm
That's totally not broken or anything. No, two Giga Impacts in one turn certainly isn't cheap.
Nice Pokémon totems, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 10, 2013, 07:25:04 pm
Exactly what I was thinking. Mega Kangaskhan confirmed for Uber.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 10, 2013, 07:37:09 pm
So lemee get this straight. You catch a Kangaskhan with one pokemon which contains it and yet it's child gets caught too?
Damn, imagine an Elite Four member using that new ability :bigcry:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on August 10, 2013, 07:44:41 pm
So lemee get this straight. You catch a Kangaskhan with one pokemon which contains it and yet it's child gets caught too?
Damn, imagine an Elite Four member using that new ability :bigcry:
Hm... I have a feeling there will be Mega Pokemon bosses. Be it some legendaries being in Mega forms when fighting them. Or some major boss trainers using them...
This might be interesting.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 10, 2013, 07:45:51 pm
Catching MegaMewtwo and not is dying/running out of pokeballs will be quite difficult man
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 10, 2013, 07:49:37 pm
You could always save before the Battle and reset if you don't catch it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 10, 2013, 07:51:46 pm
I know that ._.
It just takes forever.
I need to buy a 3DS one day. Oh yeah, does anybody know if there will be any special 3DS features with the game?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 10, 2013, 08:03:56 pm
The Torchic event uses Spotpass apparently. Also PSS uses it as well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 10, 2013, 08:23:10 pm
Catching MegaMewtwo and not is dying/running out of pokeballs will be quite difficult man
Odds are that it will return its Soul Silver/Heart Gold wild moveset :3c
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on August 11, 2013, 03:52:42 am
I'm thinking for the Kangaskan Mega form, the child would have totally separate stats determined by some fractional value or some other way out of the way stuff GameFreak could/would do. Just wouldn't make sense to allow something to fire off something like two Earthquakes in one turn. Pretty much a guaranteed knockout against any Steel/Electric/Rock/idgaf type that is weak to ground if you make good plays, or if your opponent doesn't. I'm assuming the baby will have like 1/10th the stats of the parent. Because, child
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 11, 2013, 04:06:38 am
Pokemon Worlds Finals going on right now and tomorrow (9:00 PT), for those interested.
http://www.twitch.tv/pokemon
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on August 11, 2013, 04:16:57 am
forgot this was on today
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 11, 2013, 04:22:34 am
Listen to any Champion theme to go with the finals.
Rotom-W with 1HP left is hype.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on August 11, 2013, 04:23:49 am
No Will-o-wisp for you Rotom.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 11, 2013, 04:26:03 am
Double miss on Rock Slide. Enough to make a casual player rage-quit, lol.
Pokemon salt face on the USA player, I feel his pain ;_;
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: LurkerSupreme on August 11, 2013, 04:36:21 am
Finally Rotom,Finally.
1 HP Eruption LOL
Clutch Rotom is clutch.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 11, 2013, 04:49:54 am
Hax Haven for the USA player. I'd be so pissed if I were in that situation, in fact, I would just give up.
Still, very great game.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 11, 2013, 05:38:36 am
That's totally not broken or anything. No, two Giga Impacts in one turn certainly isn't cheap.
Nice Pokémon totems, though.
Double Swagger, Sucker Punch, Roar, and stat buff moves.
Though the downside with V-ism Kangaskhan is the ability to hit Ghosts with Normals.
....wait, didn't Jango said something about training one?
/me faints from the awesomeness
To be fair, I see this update as a side-grade rather than a buff. Being able to attack twice is alright since Kangaskhan's attack stat is far from stellar, (base 95 is pretty low, competitively). This also opens up some new strategies that wouldn't normally be explored. One example off the top of my head would be, say, if you think an attack is going to kill you, use Endure and Return so that you can absorb one more attack, and potentially counter the opponent. Or potentially Protect and Bulldoze so that you can lower an opponent's speed to pressure switches or catch up with faster opponents.
HOWEVER, no longer having perfect neutral coverage with Normal and Fighting moves alone means that Kangaskhan needs to have a coverage move for ghosts (and potentially fairy types!). Sure you have Sucker Punch, but since the majority of ghost types use setup moves, there's a very high chance you won't hit at all and will have to fall back on Crunch for those ghosts, but then you lose the chance of outspeeding them with the attack.
So yeah, I like the strategic elements here, and it will definitely encourage the use of previously neglected moves and strategies.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 11, 2013, 11:32:50 am
It uses the same attack twice, so you'd Endure twice, meaning no Endure + Return for you, I'm afraid...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 11, 2013, 01:21:41 pm
Oh, misread that. Well, it's still an interesting concept either way. Rock Slide with two chances of flinch, Dizzy Punch with two chances of confusion, Crush Claw with an increased chance of lowering defense... Hell even a double Tail Whip could pressure the opponent into switching out. Basically makes a bunch of outclassed moves suddenly viable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 11, 2013, 07:57:16 pm
World Finals going on right now on the stream link. Japan vs Italy.
Also, a Mamoswine's in the Finals!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 11, 2013, 08:00:50 pm
Damn, imagine an Elite Four member using that new ability :bigcry:
Normal type Elite four confirmed.
Damn, at first it sounds like they are weak...but they are always OP.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 11, 2013, 08:17:10 pm
And, Finals are over, Italy player wins their first Tourney!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Cazaki on August 12, 2013, 08:13:10 am
Haven't been following this but I just wanted to drop by and say that it's great that Pokemon is finally taking risks, gameplay-wise. I still don't like any of the new designs, but it'll still be interesting to see them go Super Saiyan mid-battle.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 12, 2013, 12:14:59 pm
Haven't been following this but I just wanted to drop by and say that it's great that Pokemon is finally taking risks, gameplay-wise. I still don't like any of the new designs, but it'll still be interesting to see them go Super Saiyan mid-battle.
I totally agree with you here, especially on the super saiyan part lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 12, 2013, 04:01:34 pm
Serebii said:
It also reveals that Mega Mawile's Defense and Special Defense stats are increase.
So they're increasing the base stat totals like they did for Kyurem, or are they just reallocating base stats toward Def & Sp.Def and giving it Huge Power to compensate for the possible decreased attack?
Either way, 85 and 55 are rather subpar defense stats so anything to boost them helps I suppose, even if it is going to be stuck with that horrible base 50 HP.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 13, 2013, 07:44:04 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BROuwC6CMAAhL_z.jpg:large) Yeah, not as precise as we all thought. Ah well.
Also, are they redoing all the menu icons or something?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 13, 2013, 07:54:02 pm
Spoiler: MegaElectrode Confirmed(click to see content)
Purple Electrode with a M on his head?? Sounds like a plan.
MajinElectrode :smug:
It all makes sense now :smug:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on August 14, 2013, 08:03:54 am
More like..... Master Ball..... Or did I miss the joke?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 14, 2013, 08:07:09 am
Yeah. Voltorb and electrode both look like pokeballs, so making a mega form would make it into a masterball. The M on its forehead is just a funny reference to Majin Vegeta from DBZ
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hoshi on August 14, 2013, 05:26:48 pm
Or referencing Mega.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Magma Dragoon MK II on August 14, 2013, 05:31:25 pm
I just had to do it...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://i.imgur.com/e7aE2wU.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on August 14, 2013, 05:37:27 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 14, 2013, 06:13:45 pm
:freak:
Funny thing is, this could come true in the not so distant future
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2013, 04:32:06 am
Demo details + MegaEvolution method.
via Serebii said:
During the Pokémon Game Show, it was shown thanks to a picture from a Twitter user, that the method of Mega Evolution is through a simple button in the attack interface when your Pokémon has the Mega Stone attached to it. In the demo, you also ride on a Skiddo in a route and seen riding a Rhyhorn. In it, you also battle Professor Sycamore, where you use Mega Evolution, and battle Shauna & the other playable character. Fennekin has the moves Psybeam, Flame Charge, Fire Spin and Tail Whip. The Mega Evolution battle has you face off against Chandelure and Crobat with Mega Mewtwo. Helioptile has Tail Whip, Thundershock, Quick Attack & Parabolic Charge In the demo, you start off with Alexa telling you to go see Professor Sycamore. On your way there, you battle the rival, with a time limit. Once you get to Professor Sycamore, he will give you Mewtwo and teach you about Mega Evolution, which is just done by a tap of a button, and he'll then battle you. After the battle, a video runs of the game. It is also said that running is default, with you having to press the B Button to walk. We're still getting more information so keep your eyes peeled on the site. Image thanks to raim2005
Also, there's a new anime special that is based on Fire Red/Leaf Green canon meaning Ash and Co. don't appear. Red and Green (in a new outfit to differentiate from Gary Oak) and Brock as a Gym Leader will be in the series.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on August 17, 2013, 04:34:22 am
Also, there's a new anime special that is based on Fire Red/Leaf Green canon meaning Ash and Co. don't appear.
:swoon: As long as Red's still mute (or at least has a better personality than Ash), I'm happy.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on August 17, 2013, 04:36:26 am
(http://i.imgur.com/ZNqlTJN.jpg)
Get hype
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on August 17, 2013, 04:38:51 am
The characters look pretty bad but the pokemon look good.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: -Red- on August 17, 2013, 04:49:33 am
What happened to Red's design? :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2013, 04:53:20 am
A mix of the original Gen-1 trainer with Fire Red's design......yea, not sure either, but I'll get use to it. Blue (Green) looks okay. Maybe shirtless Brock returns?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on August 17, 2013, 05:03:47 am
Trailer
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2013, 05:09:13 am
So they are going for HGSS designs and Fire Red protag. All right.
Lance's inclusions makes me think this'll be an full series (like around 26+ instead of a mini-series) up to Red's final battle with Blue (Green). And I just recently finished playing Leaf Green, couldn't ask for better timing!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 17, 2013, 11:07:15 am
Hmm...Fennekin has Psybeam. I mean, it could be nothing, but perhaps it will evolve into a Fire/Psychic-type instead of that other type combination. Not that I'm fussed, I'm picking Chespin :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 17, 2013, 02:06:10 pm
Everyone looks a lot more asian now :XD:
Lookin' good though,
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
no non-evolved Pikachu anywhere to be seen either :V
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2013, 02:12:57 pm
Clip showing all previous Pokemon games leading to XY. Wii-U BATTLE REVOLUTION 2/STADIUM 3 AT THE END!!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on August 17, 2013, 02:14:16 pm
So Fairy isn't effective against Fire Wasn't that part of the Pokebeach leaks as well?
Yes including not effective against Psychic. It's weak against Poison and Steel and super effective to Dark, Dragon, and Fighting. All from the leak. Including the fact Fennekin learns Psybeam leads to its final evolution being Fire/Psychic, backing up the final evo types from the leak.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 18, 2013, 02:14:51 pm
So if the leaks are true, Fairy can't do shit against Fennekin? Good to know.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 19, 2013, 01:52:28 am
So if the leaks are true, Fairy can't do shit against Fennekin? Good to know.
Azumarill called...
But in all seriousness, I wouldn't be surprised if Azumarill ends up becoming OU in gen 6 thanks to its new Dragon immunity. Thing keeps getting better and better every generation.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 19, 2013, 03:14:44 am
Azumarill:The Dragon Slayer.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 19, 2013, 03:41:50 am
If Azumarill gets access to a Physical Fairy-type Quick Attack, hoo boy.
Also, Sylveon's ability is Cute Charm.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 21, 2013, 01:25:26 am
Not entirely X and Y-related per se, but what do you guys think about this (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trademarks_found_for_new_Pok%C3%A9mon_product)?
A Pokémon fighting game perhaps? The name certainly suggests it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 21, 2013, 02:14:04 am
youtube.com/user/bhjbhg (http://youtube.com/user/bhjbhg) So this guy managed to get all the music from the X and Y demo.
A taster:
Your lots opinion?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 21, 2013, 03:57:18 am
For those interested, here's a list of the top 40 teams used in this year's Worlds (http://nuggetbridge.com/articles/masters-vgc-worlds-2013-teams/).
Jango's defiantly going to love the 5th place team.
Also, for those in the NA region, Shiny Dialga via Gamestop is live until 9/8.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 21, 2013, 04:08:21 am
I want him to have my babies. MAGMAR baybee!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on August 21, 2013, 04:12:37 am
Did I just see a Magmar?! That's...wow I can't begin to describe how awesome that is.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Raptorkou on August 21, 2013, 07:04:05 am
Not entirely X and Y-related per se, but what do you guys think about this (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trademarks_found_for_new_Pok%C3%A9mon_product)?
A Pokémon fighting game perhaps? The name certainly suggests it.
http://youtu.be/-Ifspg5ZCkw?t=2m12s
Funny you mention that. This small clip of footage was revealed recently.
Thought it might be a new Battle Revolution/Stadium (Maybe even Colosseum) type game. But notice they're in a city street. Which is unusual.. And they're positioned kinda close, not to mention.. They're both fighting types.
Could it be Nintendo's first attempt at a tournament fighter styled Pokemon game?
Very interested to see how it plays. It's on the Wii U though.. Hopefully it'll have similar rules to some traditional FGs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 21, 2013, 03:26:04 pm
Nothing really new in terms of X&Y content but still worth bringing up:
Serebii.net said:
The special games conference, Gamescom, has begun today and contains the recent Pokémon X & Y demo. This demo is being shown in English for the first time in Gamescom and thanks to NintenDaan, we have footage of the entire demo. While not much is shown that is new, it does showcase the mechanics of the game in English, ending with a special montage Edit 06: Nintendo have also announced that the Pokémon X & Y demos, most likely the same as seen at the Pokémon Games Show and at Gamescom this past week, will be available for play by visitors to the gaming event PAX Prime at the Washington State Convention Center in Seattle from August 30th to September 2nd.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 21, 2013, 07:11:14 pm
They better release that demo on the eshop :doom:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on August 22, 2013, 06:35:01 pm
They better release that demo on the eshop *shakes fist*
MFG actually has a smiley for that :doom:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 22, 2013, 09:18:49 pm
Didn't know the code for it :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on August 22, 2013, 11:34:52 pm
Press that little smiley icon under the (B) icon and it'll........ Oh, wait.... hang on. It's not listed there...... As well as some other things I noted in the feedback forum. :P
: doom :
You could quote the reply above you, and get the code that way. ;)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 23, 2013, 12:31:20 am
He had a blasted Jolteon. What on earth was he thinking?!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 23, 2013, 03:29:43 pm
Quote
N-Wellz: this same exact shit just happened to me last match N-Wellz: i dont even care anymore N-Wellz: by the order of xbox live i report you for boosting N-Wellz: FUCK THIS SHIT N-Wellz forfeited.
Good lord what? There's more productive ways to break that sub than Specs Rapid Spin, unless he was THAT afraid of Earthquake.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 27, 2013, 12:54:06 am
http://serebii.net/xy/pokemonamie.shtml
More details on Pokemon Amie, the most intriguing is having an in-battle effect depending on how you handle your Pokemon in this feature that includes increase in critical hit, 1+ evasion, removal of paralysis, and Auto-Endure.
In other news, this just happened.
Global Link Page said:
The 2013 Global Showdown rankings are finally here! We apologize for the delay in posting the rankings. The delay was due to an additional check of the Pokémon that were registered for the tournament.
During our investigation, we found that a large number of illegal Pokémon were used during the competition. Players who were found to have used illegal Pokémon have been disqualified from the rankings and thus will not be eligible to participate in the test competition for Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, to be hosted at the new Pokémon Global Link website. We strive to offer a fair battle environment to all of our players, and the use of illegal Pokémon undermines the spirit of the competition.
We will not disclose further details about the investigation. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding.
Supposedly over 1500 players got caught during any online tournaments done throughout this year.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on August 27, 2013, 05:26:34 am
Why people who continue to use such things is beyond me.
Seriously, if you are looking for battling with perfect Pokemon, Play on this site:
http://www.smogon.com/sim/
Of course, you will be playing against Smogon, but that is the price.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 27, 2013, 07:03:04 am
Supposedly over 1500 players got caught during any online tournaments done throughout this year.
Jesus... I'd like to believe that those are just people who use stupid shit like Wonder Guard Spiritomb or stuff with more than 510 EVs total, but my gut instinct is telling me that somehow the numerous legality checkers out there aren't foolproof.
And about that Pokemon Amie thing affecting battles, lets just hope that affects in-game battles only or else most of that stuff is gonna be pretty broken competitively, especially that permanent +1 evasion.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 27, 2013, 07:20:16 am
Thankfully all my mons were bred by myself and only had illegal parents lol
Oh yeah, except for Glutes
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 27, 2013, 11:47:11 am
The only cheated Pokémon I have is an X Unown called FLOORMINE with only Explosion.
Also, I hope that in-battle stat gain thing works like the power gain from R/S/E's badges.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on September 04, 2013, 01:46:44 pm
In a Nintendo Direct presentation this morning, Nintendo, Game Freak and The Pokémon Company shared new details on Pokémon X and Pokémon Y—specifically, how you’ll be able to transfer your old Pokémon to the new games.
Nintendo will release a downloadable app for Nintendo 3DS titled Pokémon Bank. This application will allow you to store your Pokémon in a box that resides on the Internet. You’ll have access to 100 boxes, allowing you to store up to 3,000 Pokémon. You’ll be able to transfer Pokémon to and fro between Pokémon Bank and Pokémon X/Y.
Additionally, a second application called Poké Transporter will allow you to transfer Pokémon from Pokémon Black/White and Pokémon Black 2/White 2. If you put any of those four games in your Nintendo 3DS cartridge slot, you’ll be able to transfer Pokémon from them to Pokémon Bank. Then, using Pokémon Bank, you’ll be able to transfer those Pokémon into Pokémon X and Pokémon Y.
Pokémon Bank will require an annual fee. The storage service will be an ongoing service that will be continually maintained and will be compatible with Pokémon games developed in the future as well. More details regarding this service will be announced in the future.
In most Pokémon RPGs, you get your starter Pokémon from the game’s Pokémon Professor. However, this won’t be the case in Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, Nintendo and Game Freak shared in a Nintendo Direct presentation this morning.
In Pokémon X and Pokémon Y, you’ll receive your starter Pokémon from one of your friends within the game. As previously detailed, X and Y’s choice of starters are Chespin, Fennekin and Froakie. Once you choose one of these three Pokémon, you’ll begin your journey.
However, you’ll also get another Pokémon from Professor Sycamore, the professor in X and Y. Sycamore will allow you to choose one of the three original starters from Pokémon Red/Blue—Bulbasaur, Charmander and Squirtle. Additionally, all three of them will have their very own Mega Evolutions in the game as well.
Pokémon X and Pokémon Y will be released on October 12th worldwide. You can watch this morning’s Pokémon Nintendo Direct in its entirety below. It includes the above mentioned details as well as the newly-announced Pokémon Bank service.
Nintendo will be releasing Pokémon X and Pokémon Y-themed Nintendo 3DS XL systems in the U.S. and Europe. The special 3DS XL systems will be available in two colours on September 27th, and you can take a look at them below:
(http://i.imgur.com/9KSXR6J.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 04, 2013, 01:51:27 pm
The bank thing will have a free trial run. Its says that on the official X and Y website I'm so getting that blue XL And Sycamore giving you the Kanto starters 100% confirmed that leak
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 04, 2013, 02:34:38 pm
The apps also have a system to prevent hacked Pokemon from passing in.
Mega Venasaur has Thick Fat, Mega Charizard has Drought, and Mega Blastoise has a new ability called Mega Launcher that boosts its moves.
It also seems the cries from RBY on the Kanto starters are updated and no longer cut/paste.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 04, 2013, 03:42:23 pm
Japan gets PokeBank on December 25th. Everywhere else December 27th Its free until January 31st From Serebii
Also from Serebii: (http://1.2.3.10/bmi/www.serebii.net/direct98.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 04, 2013, 03:49:44 pm
It sounds like PokeTransporter requires PokeBank in order to function.
So let me get this straight, in order to transfer my Gen 3/4/5 Pokes over to Gen 6, I now need to pay a yearly fee after January 31st? This was the best idea they could come up with?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 04, 2013, 04:02:58 pm
$5 per year to be exact.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 04, 2013, 04:16:42 pm
It sounds like PokeTransporter requires PokeBank in order to function.
So let me get this straight, in order to transfer my Gen 3/4/5 Pokes over to Gen 6, I now need to pay a yearly fee after January 31st? This was the best idea they could come up with?
One month is long enough to transfer everything over Also $5 a year is not even that expensive Also they plan to use this for future gens as well
Jeez. It's not like they're asking you for monthly payments. Its $5. A year. Anyone can at least save up $5
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on September 04, 2013, 06:24:22 pm
Either you pay them 5 FREAKIN DOLLARS a year or you will never transfer you're Pokemon at all.
Just look at the massive outcry everywhere right now. I fucking hate the Pokemon fanbase now.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 04, 2013, 06:34:02 pm
Anywho, here's the Mega Kanto Starters (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1262441_513768852042740_287649812_o.png)
Mega Venusaur looks shit.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on September 04, 2013, 06:38:25 pm
*sarcasm* I don't see any major difference. */sarcasm*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 04, 2013, 06:44:26 pm
MegaZard's claws ._.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Lith on September 04, 2013, 06:46:48 pm
MegaToise's head ._.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Bastard Walt on September 04, 2013, 06:50:04 pm
[xzibit] So we hooked you up with some wings under your wings, so you can flap your wings while you flap your wings [/xzibit]
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 04, 2013, 06:51:47 pm
MegaSaur ._. Seriously, these are easily the worst Mega Evolution designs we've seen so far
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Lith on September 04, 2013, 06:53:38 pm
MegaSaur's looks good tbh, familiar and not too different. MegaZard looks pretty decent. MegaToise doesn't seem too bad but that extra cannon and his chin just look ridiculous.
It's all subjective but I think the other form of Mewtwo is the worst that's been revealed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 04, 2013, 06:56:14 pm
I like Mega Mewtwo except for that hoop thing Seriously what the fuck?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Bastard Walt on September 04, 2013, 07:05:25 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 04, 2013, 07:09:10 pm
SkinnyClaws reminds me of those bootlegged artwork of Charizard in magazines from the late 90's. The one that appears with Greymon from Digimon while giving unnecessary edits.
I'm not sure if its an unintended homage but it seems like it :S
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on September 04, 2013, 07:12:40 pm
A Big Mac at McDonalds costs around $5 here, roughly the same amount of money it takes to pay the annual fee for the Pokemon services.
If you can afford to eat at McDonalds at an occasional basis, then you can pay for the Pokemon services very easily.
I am just expressing some disbelief that the Pokemon fanbase is raging over paying for something on an annual basis with the payments are SO FREAKIN CHEAP!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 04, 2013, 07:35:53 pm
Its just that they could have done what they did before with Gen 3 ->4 and gen 4 -> 5 transfers and make them, oh i dont know... free?
Thats the part that irks me.
And I'm digging those Blastoise and Charizard mega forms. MegaVenusaur just doesn't look appealing to me at all, both design wise and ability-wise. Thick Fat can't exactly compare to Chlorophyll if you know what I mean.
Let's just hope Drought is what it takes for Charizard to finally leave the lower tiers. Now on to MegaFlareon...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on September 04, 2013, 07:44:23 pm
Well, since this is a very long term service, those maintance and development bills would be very expensive.
$5 a year won't make a dent in my finances at all. I too would like it to be free, but their reasons are understandable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Lith on September 04, 2013, 07:45:16 pm
What about kids with parents who don't give them any money? WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on September 04, 2013, 08:25:42 pm
I totally called Pokemon transfers being done by an app that you have to pay for. Next is legendary pokemon locations being sealed off unless you get the DLC :3c
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on September 04, 2013, 08:43:53 pm
Its just that they could have done what they did before with Gen 3 ->4 and gen 4 -> 5 transfers and make them, oh i dont know... free?
There are multiple ways why this was necessary. Preventing hacked Pokemon for once. This is also way way waaaaaaaay more convenient than transferring one single Pokemon each time. This is also to ensure that you can transfer your Pokemon to future games.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 04, 2013, 08:51:13 pm
Plus an app is the only way they could allow transfer. Remember that they said that they were having trouble with it at E3? Also looking after a cloud server is expensive. $5 isn't really that expensive considering how much it costs to keep a server from going down.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on September 04, 2013, 09:16:12 pm
I actually like the Kanto starter mega forms. They actually look reasonable, versus say Lucario Super Saiyain 4 or Ampharos' flowing mane of mega-ness. Venusaur could've used something to make it more distinct from its non-mega version and I'm on the fence about Charizard's second set of wings but none of these strike me as stupid at all like the first wave did.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 04, 2013, 09:27:49 pm
I actually like the Kanto starter mega forms. They actually look reasonable, versus say Lucario Super Saiyain 4 or Ampharos' flowing mane of mega-ness. Venusaur could've used something to make it more distinct from its non-mega version and I'm on the fence about Charizard's second set of wings but none of these strike me as stupid at all like the first wave did.
People thought Crobat's second set of wings were stupid too, iirc. Look how that turned out in the end.
And how everyone thought Ampharos was going to be Electric/Dragon, and now it finally is... 4 generations later...
Makes me wonder if MegaCharizard is going to get a retyping as well, anything to get rid of that Stealth Rock weakness.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 04, 2013, 09:48:52 pm
MegaZard is still Fire/Flying according to Serebii
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xhominid on September 05, 2013, 01:51:24 am
Either you pay them 5 FREAKIN DOLLARS a year or you will never transfer you're Pokemon at all.
Just look at the massive outcry everywhere right now. I fucking hate the Pokemon fanbase now.
$5!
That is just about as cheap as a hamburger at McDonalds!
Surely a person can give up a meal at McDonalds to pay for the service!
According to half of the fanbase, no it's not, it's comparable to using that money to feed starving children(no fucking joke, someone actually used that in an effort to prove his point about how bad this is), so yeah, Pokemon fanbase is as mentally handicapped as the Final Fantasy and Sonic fanbases(no offense to those afflicted)
And I honestly believe the Mega-Evolutions are boss. I do dig the fact they didn't go too all out for something that may not be an actual evolution and still keeps them noticeable. MegaBlaziken and MegaCharizard are my all time favorites...still wished MegaCharizard actually gets a type switch of Fire/Dragon though...come on, that Fire/Flying is horrific on it due to Stealth Rock...or atleast get an ability to neutralize it's 4x weakness or something!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on September 05, 2013, 01:56:43 am
It sounds like PokeTransporter requires PokeBank in order to function.
So let me get this straight, in order to transfer my Gen 3/4/5 Pokes over to Gen 6, I now need to pay a yearly fee after January 31st? This was the best idea they could come up with?
Yeah Game Freak hopped on the DLC train. Nobody safe now lmfao.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on September 05, 2013, 02:12:35 am
It´s just me or Charizard got an arm reduction in its mega form?? Besides I like it, like the 3 Kanto megaevolutions overall :) Well everyone that is half fire, half bug, half flying or any of this three combined is condemned by Stealth Rock, really wish Mega Charizard gets a considerable buff in... anything. A type change for Charizard would have been awesome but oh well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 05, 2013, 03:08:30 am
According to half of the fanbase, no it's not, it's comparable to using that money to feed starving children(no fucking joke, someone actually used that in an effort to prove his point about how bad this is), so yeah, Pokemon fanbase is as mentally handicapped as the Final Fantasy and Sonic fanbases(no offense to those afflicted)
Please stop paying attention to idiots on Gamefaqs
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on September 05, 2013, 03:22:34 am
Charizard still isn't Fire/Dragon What the hell the sheep got to become a dragon why can't Charizard. Would choosing Fennekin getting the Event Torchic and then Choosing Charmander be a terrible idea. Also with this Pokemon Bank does this mean it's possible to get all 3 starters by uploading them to the bank and then restarting since it doesn't say it's tied to a save or anything.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 05, 2013, 03:36:12 am
Also with this Pokemon Bank does this mean it's possible to get all 3 starters by uploading them to the bank and then restarting since it doesn't say it's tied to a save or anything.
Yes. You can upload your Pokémon to the Bank, start again, download them It's basically New Game +
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 05, 2013, 04:46:31 am
Charizard still isn't Fire/Dragon What the hell the sheep got to become a dragon why can't Charizard. Would choosing Fennekin getting the Event Torchic and then Choosing Charmander be a terrible idea. Also with this Pokemon Bank does this mean it's possible to get all 3 starters by uploading them to the bank and then restarting since it doesn't say it's tied to a save or anything.
It's essentially Pokemon Box (or like ^ said). Of course, unless you get access to the GTS (if there's one) early in the game, it's possible to net all starters anyways like in previous Gens.
If anything regarding MegaBellyzard I just wished it had a better ability than Drought to be honest, specially with Tars, Toeds, and Hail-Trees going rampant.
Sorry for a dumb question, but why are people so afraid of Stealth Rock anyway?
(I never bothered with metagame, so I don't know)
Very simple... You know how Spikes and Toxic Spikes work as they mainly hurt you for 1/10th of the damage getting in? Stealth Rock actually OBEYS it's typing and follows the typical damage structure of how it works:
In Gen IV, almost every single Pokemon can learn it(Gen V tried to remedy this by making only their new pokemon available and only a few actually learning it, so it's not a TM there unlike in IV) and it does pretty much the same damage as Spikes...until it hits it's type advantage and then does either a quarter of it's health or even HALF of it's health if it's either 2x or 4x effective.
This completely destroys not only Charizard's capability(due to it's Belly Drum strat being annihilated.) but also kill off PLENTY of Fire pokemon in the process. While Gamefreak has added more things that can curb Stealth Rock(Mirror Coat and I forgot the other move), Stealth Rock is possibly still one of the most broken moves in the game and I wouldn't be surprised if Gamefreak out and out nerfs the move into oblivion coming into Gen VI.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on September 05, 2013, 08:59:38 pm
I would throw in a grass type stealth rock to compete with rock type stealth rock.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 05, 2013, 09:15:43 pm
(Gen V tried to remedy this by making only their new pokemon available and only a few actually learning it, so it's not a TM there unlike in IV)
Except Gen V made those efforts redundant when BW2 turned it into a Move Tutor.
But yeah, its still a gamebreaking move to the point where most pokemon's competitive viability is based on whether or not they resist or are weak to Rock-type moves. Granted there are exceptions (Volcarona and Ho-oh are still OU and Uber, respectively, despite the fact that they lose 50% of their health from Stealth Rock). I've even seen people go as far as to completely give up on using Rapid Spin and just play along with it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xhominid on September 06, 2013, 02:00:25 am
(Gen V tried to remedy this by making only their new pokemon available and only a few actually learning it, so it's not a TM there unlike in IV)
Except Gen V made those efforts redundant when BW2 turned it into a Move Tutor.
But yeah, its still a gamebreaking move to the point where most pokemon's competitive viability is based on whether or not they resist or are weak to Rock-type moves. Granted there are exceptions (Volcarona and Ho-oh are still OU and Uber, respectively, despite the fact that they lose 50% of their health from Stealth Rock). I've even seen people go as far as to completely give up on using Rapid Spin and just play along with it.
Wow...that is so STUPID. Why the hell would they give a move, which they tried their damnest to make it less broken and let people actually get a MOVE TUTOR from it!?
And I know you are right in saying that there are still some Pokemon that can function even against Stealth Rock's worst, the issue is that Stealth Rock is still broken as all fuck and utterly curbs a huge chunk of viability from certain types simply because of the 25-50% health loss right off the bat.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 06, 2013, 05:29:53 am
This completely destroys not only Charizard's capability(due to it's Belly Drum strat being annihilated.) but also kill off PLENTY of Fire pokemon in the process.
It did way more than hinder Fire types. Compared to Spikes/Toxic Spikes where the more caps you toss out, the full potential you get (3 Spikes, 2 TS), Stealth Rock is simple to toss out at any opportunity in Singles. So far, the best counter other than Rapid Spin is Espeon/Xatu with Magic Bounce (must be good at prediction), with a shot at a free stat boost/defense buff like Reflect for the sake of mindgames at your leisure. Also Taunt, best with Prankster.
The worse (or best depending on how you look at it) part of Stealth Rock is that it nulls Focus Sash, Sturdy, and Multiscale with a single damage, pretty much breaking whatever tactic you had planned out for that Mon. In my view, the only way to "adjust" SR without making it trash or gimmicky is to remove the Rock type and have it deal normal damage, and that's it.
Now that I looked at the demo involving MegaMewtwo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ90u2IL7Ic), supposedly the Mega transformation becomes selected in a FIFTH slot and can still perform an attack after a transformation. I can see MegaZard pulling off a revenge Solarbeam against T-Tar and Politoed while nulling their weather with permanent sun. Hell, instinct 100+ Fire move during Sun boost for quick damage. Downside is no Blaze or Solar Power to further heighten the output.
Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xhominid on September 06, 2013, 05:57:08 am
It did way more than hinder Fire types. Compared to Spikes/Toxic Spikes where the more caps you toss out, the full potential you get (3 Spikes, 2 TS), Stealth Rock is simple to toss out at any opportunity in Singles. So far, the best counter other than Rapid Spin is Espeon/Xatu with Magic Bounce (must be good at prediction), with a shot at a free stat boost/defense buff like Reflect for the sake of mindgames at your leisure. Also Taunt, best with Prankster.
Yeah, I only mentioned Charizard because he's the easiest to show how screwed you are with Stealth Rock in play, but yeah, it pretty much destroys the viability of Fire, Flying, Bug and Ice Pokemon pretty freaking easily. And yeah, those counters don't really stop just how insanely good SR still is, especially since those moves and Pokemon aren't always that wanted or viable in the first place.
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The worse (or best depending on how you look at it) part of Stealth Rock is that it nulls Focus Sash, Sturdy, and Multiscale with a single damage, pretty much breaking whatever tactic you had planned out for that Mon. In my view, the only way to "adjust" SR without making it trash or gimmicky is to remove the Rock type and have it deal normal damage, and that's it.
And considering all of those pretty much help Pokemon really get going...yeah. And I absolutely agree about removing the type advantage and making it do normal damage(or even halving the damage it does overall) as it'll keep the move as Spikes and Toxic Spikes, but without the centralizing aspect.
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Now that I looked at the demo involving MegaMewtwo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ90u2IL7Ic), supposedly the Mega transformation becomes selected in a FIFTH slot and can still perform an attack after a transformation. I can see MegaZard pulling off a revenge Solarbeam against T-Tar and Politoed while nulling their weather with permanent sun. Hell, instinct 100+ Fire move during Sun boost for quick damage. Downside is no Blaze or Solar Power to further heighten the output.
Any thoughts on this?
I can see that helping, the issue is still the SR advantage and while Drought does help MegaCharizard be a revenge type Pokemon, the still far faster sweepers can still beat it badly(Volcanrana)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 06, 2013, 06:14:05 am
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but yeah, it pretty much destroys the viability of Fire, Flying, Bug and Ice Pokemon pretty freaking easily.
Not so much as Bug-type since most usually have a type resisting Rock, leading to normal damage. Same goes for certain Ice-types like Mamoswine. While Flying does get affected, some are still good with damage given and some can heal off with Roost, even few Flying with Regenerator can switch in no problem.
Only Fire got screwed horribly with SR in Singles.
Also those counters are the best bets I've tried out against common SR leads that I too dropped Rapid Spin unless I'm running the worse Pokemon getting SR damage.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 06, 2013, 11:48:55 am
I believe Charizard's Sp. Atk skyrockets when it Mega Evolves.
These Mega Evolutions, no matter how cool they look, are broken beyond belief. Heck, Speed Boost Mega Blaziken with heightened Attack.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 06, 2013, 07:43:52 pm
I believe Charizard's Sp. Atk skyrockets when it Mega Evolves.
These Mega Evolutions, no matter how cool they look, are broken beyond belief. Heck, Speed Boost Mega Blaziken with heightened Attack.
The tradeoff, though, is a similar situation as Origin Giratina: you're stuck with using only one item. Meaning no Choice Items, Leftovers, Life Orb, or Focus Sash. Plus the added restriction that you can only have one per team, apparently.
Speaking of which, considering all three Kanto starters got them and so far Blaziken has one too, I wonder if Sceptile and Swampert will be getting ones too. Or the Johto Starters for that matter, since lord knows they need em, especially Flareon Meganium.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 06, 2013, 10:02:28 pm
Or the Johto Starters for that matter, since lord knows they need em, especially Flareon Meganium.
Dear Arceus I hope they don't screw up Typhlosion if they do this.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on September 06, 2013, 10:16:18 pm
Just for that you're going to get MegaTyphlosion with the ability Dry Skin
EDIT: Actually in hindsight that would be pretty awesome, so... MegaTyphlosion with Zen Mode!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on September 08, 2013, 03:52:40 am
...
So, there's another Mega Evolution...
...
For Mewtwo possibly.
Skip to around 0:20.
And going back to that leak...
"Mewtwo has two new formes, not just one. Both are activated via items.
If the previously revealed forme of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly similar to Mewtwo’s original design, the second supposed form of Mewtwo can be said to look roughly/vaguely similar to Mew‘s design."
So... What are your all's thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 08, 2013, 04:05:59 am
I think my newly acquired Self-Destruct Mewtwo would fit well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on September 08, 2013, 04:26:48 am
I really hope that ball of words is Mewtwo's other mega evolution
Or the chick with the pikachu hair clip
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 08, 2013, 10:55:16 am
@WARPra I've been meaning to ask, what the heck is that in your signature and avatar? </offtopic>
They still haven't stated how Inkay and whatevertheotheroneiscalled evolve, though if those leaks are almost 100% true... I say this because I'm not sure how it would work. Can you just obtain the ink squid, flip the 3DS and it evolves? It just seems too easy.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on September 08, 2013, 08:29:43 pm
@WARPra I've been meaning to ask, what the heck is that in your signature and avatar? </offtopic>
They still haven't stated how Inkay and whatevertheotheroneiscalled evolve, though if those leaks are almost 100% true... I say this because I'm not sure how it would work. Can you just obtain the ink squid, flip the 3DS and it evolves? It just seems too easy.
If I read the leak correctly youre supposed to hold the 23DS upside-down as it levels up. I'm assuming you have to do this before the experience is allocated and keep it that way until the evolution sequence starts.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 09, 2013, 02:00:39 am
I think that it's a misunderstanding and that Inkay evolves when it learns Topsy Turvy I could be wrong though
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 09, 2013, 06:57:58 pm
I think that it's a misunderstanding and that Inkay evolves when it learns Topsy Turvy I could be wrong though
That certainly sounds more probable. I mean, Yanma evolves into Megayanma Yanmega when it learns Ancientpower, so...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 09, 2013, 09:41:56 pm
And plus, how the fuck are young kids going to figure out "Turn your console upside down to evolve your Pokémon"?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on September 09, 2013, 10:12:11 pm
Feebas says hi.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on September 09, 2013, 10:14:32 pm
I think you underestimate the way kids think lol.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 09, 2013, 10:25:10 pm
Yeah. Maybe I am underestimating the kids of today But it's still a really convoluted way to evolve a Pokémon Also, every gen after 3 has given us easier ways to get Milotic
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xhominid on September 09, 2013, 11:50:48 pm
Yeah. Maybe I am underestimating the kids of today But it's still a really convoluted way to evolve a Pokémon Also, every gen after 3 has given us easier ways to get Milotic
Fuck that Shit, how about actually GETTING a Feebas? I think they made it harder each Gen to get one of them...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 10, 2013, 12:40:56 am
HGSS you could get it by using the Pokewalker BW/B2W2 you could fish for it (and Milotic)
Nothing compares to DPPt though A huge fucking lake
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on September 10, 2013, 12:43:18 am
Getting a Feebas in 3rd generation was the worst definitely. At a very specific plate, with a very specific rod at a very specific climate at a very specific time. I don´t remember where to get Feebas in Diamond/Pearl thought.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 10, 2013, 12:56:05 am
Getting a Feebas in 3rd generation was the worst definitely. At a very specific plate, with a very specific rod at a very specific climate at a very specific time. I don´t remember where to get Feebas in Diamond/Pearl thought.
Oh god, I remember actually doing that shit to get a Feebas because I like Milotic's design...
I think it took 2 hours to find the right spot AND get a Feebas out of it...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 10, 2013, 02:26:56 am
Getting a Feebas in 3rd generation was the worst definitely. At a very specific plate, with a very specific rod at a very specific climate at a very specific time. I don´t remember where to get Feebas in Diamond/Pearl thought.
Remember that giant fucking lake in Mt Coronet? The one that needed Defog to get through That place And I think you could only use a Old rod And even then it was uncommon as fuck.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Simplistic Fubini on September 10, 2013, 02:35:59 am
Getting a Feebas in 3rd generation was the worst definitely. At a very specific plate, with a very specific rod at a very specific climate at a very specific time. I don´t remember where to get Feebas in Diamond/Pearl thought.
Oh god, I remember actually doing that shit to get a Feebas because I like Milotic's design...
I think it took 2 hours to find the right spot AND get a Feebas out of it...
...Just to find out it had the wrong nature and that it would never evolve!
Fucking pokeblocks.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on September 10, 2013, 05:13:53 am
Remember that giant fucking lake in Mt Coronet? The one that needed Defog to get through That place And I think you could only use a Old rod And even then it was uncommon as fuck.
I think I remember it, thought I didn´t managed to get one that way (I traded it) :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xhominid on September 10, 2013, 07:19:15 am
Getting a Feebas in 3rd generation was the worst definitely. At a very specific plate, with a very specific rod at a very specific climate at a very specific time. I don´t remember where to get Feebas in Diamond/Pearl thought.
Oh god, I remember actually doing that shit to get a Feebas because I like Milotic's design...
I think it took 2 hours to find the right spot AND get a Feebas out of it...
...Just to find out it had the wrong nature and that it would never evolve!
Fucking pokeblocks.
That probably took me more than 2 hours to do lol.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 10, 2013, 04:41:23 pm
And plus, how the fuck are young kids going to figure out "Turn your console upside down to evolve your Pokémon"?
I'm sure almost every NPC will mention it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on September 10, 2013, 08:00:46 pm
Oh great that reminds me I hope there's less hand holding in X/Y than there was in the Black and White series.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 10, 2013, 08:10:57 pm
To be fair, B/W was considered to be a kinda reboot. B/W2 was unforgivable though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: JeDDyD on September 10, 2013, 10:42:47 pm
Fake or New Mega Evolutions? (http://upload.pokefans.net/m55_69jd3z9pl.jpg) (http://upload.pokefans.net/m55_69jd4x83t.jpg) (http://upload.pokefans.net/m55_69jd5rawf.jpg) (http://upload.pokefans.net/m55_69jd6ec5f.jpg) (http://upload.pokefans.net/m55_69jd78340.jpg) Source: http://forum.pokefans.net/post999679.html (Forum is in German)
Sorry if these have already been posted (looked through the last few pages and didn't see them).
EDIT: So supposedly these are in fact fakes that were created on 2ch...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 10, 2013, 10:58:46 pm
So much for beating Gengar with Earthquake again...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 11, 2013, 12:36:34 am
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/8baa94503a686d6407c64b3311ba9819/tumblr_msxkw7pgJA1r8sc3ro1_400.jpg) This might be fake considering I got it from tumblr. Apparently it's the Spanish Nintendo Magazine But if it's real, then it confirms that Inkay will evolve into Malamar when the 3DS is hold upside down. And Pancham will evolve into Pangoro when a dark type pokemon is in the player’s team.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xhominid on September 11, 2013, 01:35:54 am
Damn fakes...
That was an awesome design for MegaHeracross...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on September 11, 2013, 01:54:00 am
Froakie's evo better have shades. The actual one better have 'em...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 11, 2013, 08:58:24 am
What do you mean? Heracross became a ginger *shot*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 11, 2013, 12:04:58 pm
CoroCoro has begun leaking
Serebii.net said:
The next batch of CoroCoro information has been posted to Japanese forums and this batch showcases more information on the upcoming games Pokémon X & Y. We have the cover that showcases a new Mega Evolution of Mewtwo as well as Mega Garchomp in the bottom right Edit The user with the same ID also posted that the starter evolutions are Gerogashira, Teerunaa, Hariboogu. They're all single typed and Teerunaa, the evolution of Fennekin, stands up. He also lists two fossil Pokémon, Chigorasu which is Rock/Dragon and Amarusu which is Rock/Ice. There is a white dog called Torimian which is Normal-type and a Psychic-type cat called Nyaonikusu which has male and female appearances. It also states that Mewtwo is version exclusive. He also listed the Fairy-type chart. According to this, Fairy is Super Effective on Fighting, Dark and Dragon and not effective on Fire, Poison or Steel. It also states that it is weak to Poison and Steel while resists Fighting, Dark and Bug. It is immune to Dragon. However, as this is not pictured yet, don't take this information as 100% confirmed. 10:46: This Mega Mewtwo is apparently Psychic/Fighting-type and has the ability Steadfast. Mega Garchomp's ability is Sand Force.
10:49: Chigorasu hasa new ability 'Hard Chin' that increases attack power. Amarusu has Freeze Skin is the Ice version of Normalize. Torimian has Fur Coat which reduces physical damage and apparently with "trimming" you can change its appearance. Nyaonikusu has Keen Eye or Infiltrator 10:53: Change your hair and clothes at a Boutique and Salon, reflected in the graphics, with a famous actress called Karune. Team Flare has five scientists, Kuseroshiki, Momiji, Bara, Akebi, Corea 10:59: Gerogashira knows Jump, Chespin's evo knows Mud Shot and Fennekin's evo knows Psycho Cut and has a split in its tail
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 11, 2013, 12:20:46 pm
Grass/Ground? Like Torterra? Hmm...
Ice-type fossil sounds...cool *shot*
Also, Mega Garchomp sounds more overpowered than its usual overpowered self :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 11, 2013, 02:34:36 pm
Same person who did the scans claims Steel type got nerfed. No longer resist Dark and Ghost.
Doesn't stop Metagross from being dominant.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 11, 2013, 03:16:21 pm
(http://serebii.net/corocoro9133.jpg)
Celltwo, called it.
On a side note, Psychic/Fighting? And a design that looks a hell of a lot better than MegaMewtwo Y's design to boot?
Steel-type losing its Dark and Ghost resistances kinda sucks, especially considering that Water's type effectiveness hasn't changed AT ALL.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on September 11, 2013, 03:25:55 pm
Too many MewTwo's all over the place with these new games yo :freak: Posted: September 11, 2013, 03:28:01 pm
Getting a Feebas in 3rd generation was the worst definitely. At a very specific plate, with a very specific rod at a very specific climate at a very specific time. I don´t remember where to get Feebas in Diamond/Pearl thought.
Wait...what. You had to fish for it at a specific time???
No wonder I spent 6-7 hours fishing there for a feebas ._.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 11, 2013, 03:34:30 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/2b0afeca2055e36c7f497fb4e13bc62a/tumblr_msyqxyfWDl1ro24wbo8_500.jpg) Starter 1st evos Wow Chespin. What happened?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on September 11, 2013, 03:35:40 pm
On a side note, Psychic/Fighting? And a design that looks a hell of a lot better than MegaMewtwo Y's design to boot?
Steel-type losing its Dark and Ghost resistances kinda sucks, especially considering that Water's type effectiveness hasn't changed AT ALL.
Hmm...
That Mewtwo looks nice.
I wonder if we are going to catch Mewtwo within the main game itself?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on September 11, 2013, 03:39:18 pm
Chespin looks like he's going to be the bulky one. Pretty similar to Pignite.
Froakie is definitely going to be a badass ninja.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 11, 2013, 03:40:10 pm
That Mega Mewtwo is X exclusive The bottle opener Mega Mewtwo is Y exclusive I knew I made the right choice with x
Anyhoo, Mega Garchomp (http://31.media.tumblr.com/76d54aac2133162beb5af8a756f917f2/tumblr_msyq8s5fAl1qdjv8yo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on September 11, 2013, 03:46:20 pm
WOAH MegaGarchomp looks cool :D
I didn't expect the fire starter to go from four feet to two, looks kinda odd IMO
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 11, 2013, 03:46:28 pm
Personally I'll take the +1 evasive hax instead of Sand Force. An okay design nonetheless.
Fennelkin's evo looks great.
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Celltwo, called it.
It needs the type entry as "Perfect" now.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 11, 2013, 03:47:08 pm
Completely firing off Mega Evolutions indiscriminately instead of giving one to Flareon those that actually need them I see...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on September 11, 2013, 03:53:07 pm
They ought to give Drudiggon an evolution :)
Might be a bit overpowered though
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 11, 2013, 03:53:46 pm
Supposedly there's a "leak list" of Mega Evolutions that includes Gen V Pokemon as well as all Starter Evos. This has predicated Garchomp's Mega Evo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 11, 2013, 03:54:57 pm
(http://1.2.3.10/bmi/25.media.tumblr.com/c69ca615813a26d7cc11f4fd4a91ff4e/tumblr_msyj3buWl91r8sc3ro1_500.jpg) The Pokémon on the right are the fossil Pokemon The ones on the left are the Male and Female Nyaonikusu. Female learns Extrasensory Male learns Miracle Eye
Also that llama/poodle at the top left can be customised through 'grooming'
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 11, 2013, 03:55:12 pm
Guess I was right with the whole "Fanservice Fennekin" thing...
Mega Garchomp's all like "Imma rape ya bitch" :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on September 11, 2013, 03:56:16 pm
The ones on the left are the Male and Female Nyaonikusu.
In before english name revealed to be "Espurr" and "Meowstick"
The leaks have been right so far. I guess we'll have to wait until the English site updates which should be soon considering that they've always updated shortly after CoroCoro leaks
Edit: Here's the up to date type list (http://www.serebii.net/games/typexy.shtml)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Lith on September 11, 2013, 06:25:39 pm
No, they're scythes to rape you and your team with. If your team has no immunity to Ground-type moves, and Tyranitar's Sand Stream is active, then Garchomp's Earthquake will sweep everything...even Bug and Grass-types.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 11, 2013, 09:35:39 pm
Are you going to change your name to MegaGarchompMatt?
And just to make sure that this post isn't pointless (http://1.2.3.13/bmi/25.media.tumblr.com/47201546a636f7f8b12f45adab1e832d/tumblr_msyn7sVevC1r8sc3ro1_500.jpg) PokeSalon. You can change your clothes and overall appearance here.
Also (http://1.2.3.10/bmi/24.media.tumblr.com/17fb8ea5ca317ab779e28e72d2b1a3b2/tumblr_msymjdn9md1r8sc3ro1_500.jpg) Team Flare's 5 scientists, Kuseroshiki, Momiji, Bara, Akebi, Corea Their goal is to make a beautiful world. Whatever the fuck that means
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on September 11, 2013, 09:38:35 pm
Because of course Fennekin stands up. Is a quadruped Fire-type too much to ask? I mean I guess Ninetails already fills the whole fire-type fox on four legs niche but still.
It's possible I'm still sore over Tepig not evolving into a badass Fire/Dark hell-boar with a flaming mane and big tusks.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 11, 2013, 11:28:31 pm
Are you going to change your name to MegaGarchompMatt?
Negative :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on September 11, 2013, 11:54:57 pm
I don´t like that there´s a possibility that Steel type gets nerfed. Best defensive type in the game but not so good offensively. Someone active in this can say their opinion is Steel is somehow OP or not?? I´ll like to see opinions. Oh come on, a Mega Garchomp?? Really?? someone that is currently in the Uber tier with a mega form?? this is great!!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 12, 2013, 12:12:43 am
I don´t like that there´s a possibility that Steel type gets nerfed. Best defensive type in the game but not so good offensively.
Scizor and Metagross are going to be the main Fairy counters now. I guess a nerf was needed so Steel type doesn't get too good. On the plus side, Ghosts get a buff here, Gengar for OU for six straight Gens. Maybe now Ghosts will see even more usage.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on September 12, 2013, 12:20:47 am
I guess the rebalancing makes sense after thinking about it a little more and with the Fairy type inclusion. Alright, I´ll take that. BTW, finally a Rock/Dragon. Don´t know why it taked so long to have this combination since the combination is really sexy on paper.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Magma Dragoon MK II on September 12, 2013, 02:56:40 am
Inb4 Fire/Poison reveal like the leak 4 months ago said.
On a side note, the Steel type nerf has me worried about Skarmory falling down to UU this gen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 12, 2013, 11:49:21 am
And the long-awaited Honedge typing of Ghost/Steel is now not as good as everyone wanted it to be.
I don't understand how Dark is now normally effective on Steel. Most Dark-type attacks consist of dirty tactics/fighting and cheating, like biting, stealing your item, etc. If you bit a sheet of metal really hard, you're going to take more damage than the metal.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 12, 2013, 12:09:33 pm
Dark types use dirty tactics to attack through the Steel type's chinks? I dunno. Ghost phases through everything so that kinda makes sense
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kanbei on September 12, 2013, 12:11:47 pm
And the long-awaited Honedge typing of Ghost/Steel is now not as good as everyone wanted it to be.
I don't understand how Dark is now normally effective on Steel. Most Dark-type attacks consist of dirty tactics/fighting and cheating, like biting, stealing your item, etc. If you bit a sheet of metal really hard, you're going to take more damage than the metal.
Cuz Steel needed a "Normal damage" element. I always felt like steel was too overpowered. Take Bronzong for example.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 12, 2013, 04:28:25 pm
I don't understand how Dark is now normally effective on Steel. Most Dark-type attacks consist of dirty tactics/fighting and cheating, like biting, stealing your item, etc. If you bit a sheet of metal really hard, you're going to take more damage than the metal.
To be fair, sharks are able to bite through metal. With that anecdote in mind, looks like Sharpedo just got a tad better.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 12, 2013, 04:50:28 pm
I don't understand how Dark is now normally effective on Steel. Most Dark-type attacks consist of dirty tactics/fighting and cheating, like biting, stealing your item, etc. If you bit a sheet of metal really hard, you're going to take more damage than the metal.
To be fair, sharks are able to bite through metal. With that anecdote in mind, looks like Sharpedo just got a tad better.
Except they lose a few teeth in the process. Of course, sharks can regrow teeth as much as they want, so it's not a problem.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on September 12, 2013, 07:27:02 pm
It's probably because dark types have mental attacks too like Dark Pulse. I dunno I still don't know why water isn't getting nerfed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on September 12, 2013, 07:37:08 pm
Maybe there's a lot of water types and it would affect the game too much?
I agree, it seems stupid for steel types to lose that resistance against dark.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on September 12, 2013, 07:42:14 pm
It certainly feels weird Steel types will not resist Dark anymore while Water type still hasn´t received a nerf. Ghost, well I´m okay with that actually. Too bad Honhedge won´t be an amazing wall anymore :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 12, 2013, 08:19:50 pm
They could've at least made Poison super-effective against Water. That would've done something, I guess...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 12, 2013, 08:48:04 pm
Not really X and Y related, but looking through the data for a Pokemon Ruby ROM, I found the data for the type chart and noticed the ???-type that Curse used to be prior to Gen 5. Managed to alter the table to mimic the Gen 6 typechart to the best of my ability, including changing the ???-type to be functionally identical to the new Fairy-type.
Needless to say, after playing through it a bit the changes are kind of intriguing, despite the fact that there's only like 1 or 2 fairy type attacks added, both of which are physical for some reason, and only 4 fully evolved Fairy-type Pokemon total. Water could still use a nerf, though, but holy fuck @ Huge Power Azumarill.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 12, 2013, 09:12:51 pm
Sounds interesting Is it possible to get a patch?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on September 12, 2013, 09:19:22 pm
Huge Power Azumarill... Jesus Christ.... too OP
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 12, 2013, 09:19:53 pm
Might be able to get it up later. Looking into FireRed right now to see if I can produce something similar.
I'm assuming that since the ???-type exists in Gen 4 as well it might be possible to do it there as well, and might actually be closer to X&Y due to the updated gameplay and the addition of stealth rock and such, but my knowledge of hacking the Gen 4 games is scarce. Not saying its impossible for Gen 4, just beyond my current ability.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 12, 2013, 09:27:28 pm
I don't think you can change the type list of Gen 4 games They've just found a way to start changing the maps so types changing is a long way off
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on September 13, 2013, 01:07:44 am
I remember making a joke that the fire starter would just turn into a Kitsune.
I am sad I appear to be correct.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 13, 2013, 03:14:42 pm
English names for the starters evos
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on September 13, 2013, 03:29:18 pm
Are they finally gonna add more then one save slot i love me some dress up Character Customization and i wanna have a Boy and Girl character without deleting the other or having to buy the other version.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 13, 2013, 03:44:30 pm
Due to PokeBank letting you reset your game without losing your Pokémon, I don't see that happening There's a chance though.
Edit:
Serebii.net said:
Following their reveal over the last few days, The Pokémon Company has sent out a press release giving out various details and localisations on the recently revealed Pokémon. The details are as follows. First are the starters. Chespin's evolution, Hariboogu is to be called Quilladin. Fennekin's evolution, Teerunaa , is to be called Braixen and Froakie's evolution, Gekogashira, is to be called Frogadier Next are the fossil Pokémon. Chigorasu is to be called Tyrunt while its ability, Strong Jaw, retains its name. Next, Amarusu is to be called Amaura while its ability, is called Refrigerate. Tyrunt is obtained with the Jaw Fossil and Amaura with the Sail Fossil The customisable dog Pokémon, Torimian is to be called Furfrou while its ability Fur Coat retains its name. Its move, Baby Doll Eyes whichmoves first . The process to customise it is called Trimming The cat Pokémon, Nyaonikusu is to be called Meowstic. Pyroar has a female form The Team Flare admins are: The purple-haired woman is Celosia, the orange-haired woman is Aliana, the green-haired woman is Bryony, and the blue-haired woman is Mable. The final one of the lot is a man called Xerosic, whose red goggles and hair make quite an impression. The actress Karune is to be called Diantha. The Global Link will have a mobile friendly version Some more changes regarding types have been announced; Ghost types are no longer affected by moves that prevent fleeing such as Mean Look. Grass Pokémon can't be seeded or affected by moves such as SleepPowder or Stun Spore. Electric types can no longer be Paralysed You can also record 10 second videos at the Trainer PR Studio
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 13, 2013, 04:08:24 pm
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Meowstic
May/June called, they want their leaked info back.
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Some more changes regarding types have been announced; Ghost types are no longer affected by moves that prevent fleeing such as Mean Look. Grass Pokémon can't be seeded or affected by moves such as SleepPowder or Stun Spore. Electric types can no longer be Paralysed
Mean Look stopped being useful when Gen 5 decided it could no longer be baton passed. Nice news for grass and electrics, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 13, 2013, 04:31:57 pm
Does it mean not paralyzed full stop or just through moves? Like if they're hit through Body Slam, or hit a Pokémon with Static
And what about grass types and Wonder spore or whatever it's called?
Also, here are the specifics for the Character Customization (http://www.pokemonxy.com/en-us/whats_new/style)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 13, 2013, 04:53:08 pm
Does it mean not paralyzed full stop or just through moves? Like if they're hit through Body Slam, or hit a Pokémon with Static
I'd imagine its the same thing with fire types being unable to be burned or steel & poison types being unable to be poisoned, not counting that one glitch with Twin Needle back in Gen 2.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 13, 2013, 05:03:57 pm
Ahh ok
(http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/art/Furfrou_Groomed-X-and-Y.jpg) Clear image of the groomed Furfrous You have to groom them regularly or they'll go back to their ungroomed form I must say I'm loving the customisation options Gamefreak are giving us
Also female Pyroar (http://www.pokemonxy.com/_ui/img/_en/art/Pyroar_Female-X-and-Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 13, 2013, 09:13:00 pm
Pidgeot became a female lion all of a sudden :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 13, 2013, 11:29:05 pm
So now Electric types can no longer get Paralysis and Grass types are immune to Powder/Grass stat condition moves.
Some more changes regarding types have been announced; Ghost types are no longer affected by moves that prevent fleeing such as Mean Look. Grass Pokémon can't be seeded or affected by moves such as SleepPowder or Stun Spore. Electric types can no longer be Paralysed
Mean Look stopped being useful when Gen 5 decided it could no longer be baton passed. Nice news for grass and electrics, though.
Are you kidding? This means Sableye ONCE AGAIN gets another boost. A Pokemon with priority non-attack moves AND can't be trapped? Beautiful.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 14, 2013, 10:23:48 am
But it's now weak to Fairy. It actually now has a weakness.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on September 15, 2013, 09:42:00 pm
So the two non-SE Pokémon have been nerfed by the new type, poison still sucks and water is still insanely overpowered. Why won't they just make Poison > Water and end the big issue with the last one? While we're at it give us a Poison legendary, good reason to buff the type in general
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 16, 2013, 03:35:27 pm
So apparently some big announcement is scheduled for later this morning:
Serebii.net said:
It has been announced by The Pokémon Company that a special announcement is to be released at 8am PDT on Monday. This announcement's contents are not currently known and could be anything from Pokémon X & Y or even something completely different, but the aesthetics used in the announcement image match that of a trailer that leaked for a Gotta Catch 'Em All site. We'll provide full details on this as and when it happens
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 16, 2013, 06:45:21 pm
And there it is (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_announces_GottaCatchEmAll.com).
It would appear that they've registered "gottacatchemall.com", which (prior to today) merely redirected to the Pokémon website.
All it is is some site where you can win Pokémon-related prizes for codes or something.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Raptorkou on September 16, 2013, 07:49:42 pm
So apparently some big announcement is scheduled for later this morning:
Serebii.net said:
It has been announced by The Pokémon Company that a special announcement is to be released at 8am PDT on Monday. This announcement's contents are not currently known and could be anything from Pokémon X & Y or even something completely different, but the aesthetics used in the announcement image match that of a trailer that leaked for a Gotta Catch 'Em All site. We'll provide full details on this as and when it happens
Apparently the info today was supposed to be the info leaked last week. So they made this "Gotta' Catch 'em All Hunt", made to last over the next few weeks to cover it up. Unfortunately (Again) people cracked the codes already (They're in a X(number)(letter)(number) format; ex: "X5Q9") and people already completed the hunt in a matter of minutes. So they're currently trying to catch the cheaters and ban them from the giveaway.
GG Gamefreak.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 16, 2013, 09:59:11 pm
US-only participants. Seems a bit...exclusive.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 16, 2013, 11:22:26 pm
Seeing as the codes got cracked, this whole thing is pointless And that US only thing will piss off a lot of people But hey. At least Gotta Catch em All is back.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 17, 2013, 05:14:50 am
So JP gets massive exclusive giveaways, including C-Gear skins, certain Pokemon, Dream World items, special skinned handhelds, etc.
NA gets a site where codes can be easily passed and currently at a maintenance in an attempt to remedy when it's all a waste of time.
I'm still pissed we never got the "Kanto only" tourney.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 17, 2013, 10:56:05 am
And EU gets...nothing :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 17, 2013, 12:35:41 pm
Nobody cares about poor Europe ;_;
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on September 17, 2013, 01:35:45 pm
I'm not even from Europe, but this is bull shit. You guys should also get... SOMETHING like one of the contests...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 17, 2013, 02:52:30 pm
Well, I guess we got Learn with Pokémon: Typing Adventure when you guys didn't, but that's scraping the barrel.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 17, 2013, 03:32:31 pm
The only good thing about that game was the boss theme And even then, its not as good We did get KH3D early though, so there's that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 17, 2013, 04:30:23 pm
And Mario Kart 7... ...and Dream Team (Bros.).
We actually got Dream Team Bros. before Japan, which makes no sense.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 17, 2013, 04:45:04 pm
And due to the time differences, we'll get Pokémon X and Y first so it kinda makes up for it. Not that much though and Japan gets it first
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on September 17, 2013, 07:12:19 pm
We actually got Dream Team Bros. before Japan, which makes no sense.
I guess a few bright sides too are, PAL got Fatal Frame 2 on the Wii, and a better version of the 3DS Fatal Frame game.
And you guys almost were the only ones outside of Japan to get Xenoblade... Which is a great game by the way.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on September 18, 2013, 12:53:46 am
(http://i.imgur.com/pg6hMdi.png)
No official confirmations yet, but the implication is that Nintendo finally found them and is forcing them to stop production. Now I'll never own the Gen 3 or Gen 4 badges. :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 18, 2013, 01:14:22 am
Aww. I was saving up to get them as well
The fossil evolutions were leaked (http://25.media.tumblr.com/42695005b0c06cb7b69240776511dbad/tumblr_mtdi5hkqTf1spb5nco1_400.jpg) Aurorus
The images of a new Pokémon have been revealed by Jeux Video. This Pokémon is said to be the evolution of Amaura and is called aurorus. It is likely we'll get full assets later on so we'll keep you aprised of any information as and when it comes. Edit 08: IGN have also revealed another new Pokémon called Tyrantrum. Picture below Edit 42: According to an interview on Polygon, it has been stated that no Kalos Pokémon will have a Mega Evolution within Pokémon X & Y. Aurorus has a move called Freeze Dry, which is an Ice-type move which freezes the opponent but is said to be super effective against Water-type Pokémon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on September 19, 2013, 03:14:02 pm
Holy shit Tyrantrum! :o
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 19, 2013, 03:29:34 pm
I know right?
Serebii.net said:
14:10: Various details are coming in from impressions at the media briefing last week. Pokémon will gain EXP when a Pokémon is captured. The Pokémon Centers not only have the standard PokéMart, but will also have a place for you to change your outfit
X and Y will include all Pokemon from all previous games, offering the largest selection of Pokemon in any of the series' titles. (http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/19/4744438/pokemon-x-and-y-switches-up-the-classic-story-formula-to-focus-on)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on September 19, 2013, 07:35:03 pm
I'd love to know what the heck would something like Giratina be doing in Kalos.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Magma Dragoon MK II on September 19, 2013, 08:09:52 pm
Seriously, why they never did this before?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 19, 2013, 08:10:53 pm
14:10: Various details are coming in from impressions at the media briefing last week. Pokémon will gain EXP when a Pokémon is captured. The Pokémon Centers not only have the standard PokéMart, but will also have a place for you to change your outfit
X and Y will include all Pokemon from all previous games, offering the largest selection of Pokemon in any of the series' titles. (http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/19/4744438/pokemon-x-and-y-switches-up-the-classic-story-formula-to-focus-on)
Holy Shit. I need to buy a 3DS
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 19, 2013, 09:40:59 pm
X and Y will include all Pokemon from all previous games, offering the largest selection of Pokemon in any of the series' titles. (http://www.polygon.com/2013/9/19/4744438/pokemon-x-and-y-switches-up-the-classic-story-formula-to-focus-on)
Am I being cynical or is this just a dressed-up PR way of saying "We did not exclude any existing Pokémon from the ROM when we transitioned to 3D graphics"? Could mean anything from large areas lots of different Pokemon encounters, to a similarly sized distribution as before with the ability to get old Pokemon from transferring/Dream World services or special legendary events.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 19, 2013, 11:22:11 pm
Also, what'd be the point in Gen III remakes if all of Hoenn's Pokémon are catchable in Kalos? Let's be honest, the point of FireRed, LeafGreen, HeartGold and SoulSilver were to catch Pokémon that couldn't be obtained in Ruby, Sapphire, Emerald, Diamond, Pearl and Platinum.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on September 20, 2013, 12:16:03 am
Yea but R/S actually broke compatibility and made you slog through Colosseum to have a chance of getting several Pokemon, before FRLG let you get the remaining hundred or so you literally couldn't obtain. Not as bad for the DS games but at that point they knew remakes could still sell millions of copies.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 20, 2013, 12:21:09 am
Maybe they want to show off the new 3D models. Who knows. Buy if Gen 3 doesn't get a remake because of the whole "every Pokémon available in Kalos" thing, that'll be shitty.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on September 20, 2013, 01:57:34 am
Fuck, need 3ds now. I wonder if that also means you can choose the starters of other generations (I know the professor guy gives you Gen 1 starters, need to find where to get gen 3 if I can't get the event Torchic).
Also the Rock/Dragon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c8FzDm4Gbo) looks awesome
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 24, 2013, 02:57:13 pm
New Pokebeach rumours
Pokebeach.com said:
Another source has sent us a new set of information about X and Y. Like the last batch of leaks, consider all of this a rumor until Pokemon reveals it. Like our last source, some of this information is from memory, so it may not be 100% accurate. Again, please treat all of this with caution – even though we’ve been shown evidence to back up some of the information, we could still be falling for an elaborate trick. Time will tell!. Trusk is a Grass/Rock boar Pokemon with long green tusks coming out of its mouth. He is gruff, has grey skin, and features green leaf-like ears. It has an “adorable” pre-evolution with tiny tusks and a leaf at the end of its tail. A Normal/Poison porcupine Pokemon named Quillom can be found quite early in the game in the forest. It has white skin with light purple quills. He has a Poison-type quill attack which damages and has a high chance of poison. A Ghost-type spider Pokemon is found in caves. It is dark gray with blue spots and multiple light grey eyes. It has a feint light blue mist around its abdomen. The source doesn’t remember the spelling of its name, but says it was something like “Apparachnid.” He thinks it may have an evolution. There is a Ground-type badger Pokemon that is dark brown with black stripes going up its face. It knows Slash and a new biting move. Reconfirmation that Froakie’s final evolution is Water/Fighting. It looks similar to a poison dart frog. The dark blue now takes over its body almost entirely. There are a few even darker (almost black) spots on his sides and face and it gains more of the bubble foam around its neck and down the back. It’s also a bit bulkier. It uses its hind legs a lot and has kicking attacks. Bunnelby evolves into a Ground/Dark type rabbit that is larger and much rounder. Its color scheme is reversed, with the dark brown now being the prominent color. It can be found in caves. It is useful because you can get it early in the game and use it to evolve Pancham into Pangoro. Helioptile has an evolution. It is bipedal with a second yellow triangle on its face. Its ears become more jagged and it looks meaner. On its back are what look like spikes with jagged parts at the very top. It can learn a new attack called Thunder Roll, where it rolls up like a wheel and strikes the opponent. Reconfirmation that Meowstic has a pre-evolution named Espurr. There is no gender differentiation until it evolves. It is mostly white, similar to the female version, with cuter eyes and a single puffy tail. It has a little patch of fur under its head (similar to its evolutions). The fur is dark blueish with little tufts of white in it. Other Pokemon that are now Fairy-type: the Chansey evolution line, Dunsparce, the Clefairy line, and Togepi’s line. Fairy Dust is a new move that will randomly cause either Paralysis, Poison, Sleep, or Burn. Like Magneton, Wailmer is part of one of the Super Training Facility games. Team Flare makes an appearance right at the beginning of the game. On the TV in your house, one of its members talks about fashion and how your Pokemon should match your style. Team Flare’s signature music has an eerie accordion sound to it in the opening sequence. The outfit your character wears at the start is colored to match what you’ve set as your favorite color in your 3DS settings. It can be changed easily though. The opening cinematic is in 3D. (Have to mention this since most of the game isn’t in stereoscopic 3D. :p) It starts off with Yveltal’s cry, which wakes you up. You sit up in your bed. It then pans and there is a shot of your city. Yveltal’s shadow goes over it. After that there is some other shots of your town. You seem amazed that you saw Yveltal. It then shows generic in-game shots like you entering a forest with your friends, selecting your starter, running through a cave, etc. After that it shows Sycamore welcoming you. You are standing outside of his lab at the time, then he takes you inside. It then shows him showing you three Poke Balls which leads into a transformation video where it shows all three Kanto starters evolving to their final forms, and then the three of them Mega Evolving. It’s a really cool cinematic. The video ends with Yveltal flying with the sun behind him, leading in to the title screen. Team Flare is also shown at some point in the sequence. On the title screen you can use the analog joystick on your 3DS to change the angle at which you see Xerneas/Yveltal.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 24, 2013, 04:13:45 pm
One thing about Togepi's line. Which type goes? Normal or Flying? I do hope it's Fairy/Flying...all providing these leaks are true and all that.
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Post by: GarchompMatt on September 25, 2013, 05:19:21 pm
What is this I don't even. (https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/923390_409455612509722_1681189407_n.png)
Not sure if it's a joke from Game Freak or not, but It's like Magneton all over again...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 25, 2013, 05:27:29 pm
Serebii.net said:
The official site has revealed the new Pokémon. This Pokémon is called and is the evolution of Doublade. It is a Steel/Ghost-type Pokémon and is the evolution of the Pokémon Honedge. It is Steel/Ghost-type like it's pre-evolution and has the same ability of No Guard. It is capable of carrying out intricate attacks by telepathically coordinating its two blades to deliver twice the slice in battle. Full details have been added to the pre-release Pokémon page
I like it personally.
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Post by: GarchompMatt on September 25, 2013, 05:30:25 pm
Serebii.net said:
twice the slice
Awesome.
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Post by: Watta on September 25, 2013, 07:51:24 pm
Omg I just saw those First gen starter Mega forms. Dat Charizard, my body is ready
http://www.serebii.net/xy/megaevolutions.shtml
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 25, 2013, 09:33:23 pm
So here's something that everyone seems to be overlooking (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nintendo_Dream_interview_reveals_new_mechanic_changes)
Bulbanews.bulbagarden.net said:
An interview in the "Nintendo Stadium Returns" booklet, featured in November's issue of Nintendo Dream, revealed new mechanic changes along with some of the decisions made regarding how Mega Evolutions work, and the distribution of moves and abilities. The confirmed information is as follows: Pokémon gain experience even when the opposing wild Pokémon is caught (as stated in another interview). A caught Pokémon gives the same experience points as a defeated one. Sky Battles are limited to Flying-type Pokémon and those with the Levitate Ability (as previously confirmed). Some moves can't be used. There is an adjustment to the inheritence system of breeding. Ghost-type Pokemon can freely escape from battle without being influenced by Shadow Tag. (The official website mentioned trapping moves.) The item Exp. Share will revert to Exp. All as in Generation I, where when one Pokémon holding this item participates in battle, all other Pokémon in the team receive experience as well. Unlike in Generation I, the experience is not split but rather received by all Pokémon. This means that the participating Pokemon receive 100% experience, while non-participating Pokémon receive 50% experience. When distributing new moves and abilities, priority was given to new Pokémon. The CGI style is different from that of Pokémon Stadium and Pokémon Battle Revolution, because those games were supposed to emulate "realism within fantasy". Since the handheld Pokémon series is supposed to be accessible to everyone, battles were made "cuter". The standard selection process for Pokémon to be Mega-Evolvable is based on three points: visual looks, popularity and game balance. The power-up of Mega-Evolved Pokemon is meant to elevate them to the class of legendary Pokémon, hence the restriction of only one Pokémon being allowed to hold a Mega Stone during battles. The timing to Mega-Evolve is selectable. Some moves, with focus on special ones, have had their power and accuracy revamped.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 25, 2013, 11:15:16 pm
Bulbanews.bulbagarden.net said:
The CGI style is different from that of Pokémon Stadium and Pokémon Battle Revolution, because those games were supposed to emulate "realism within fantasy". Since the handheld Pokémon series is supposed to be accessible to everyone, battles were made "cuter".
I rarely swear to express how I feel about something, but in this particular case, fuck. Yes, make the battles with the being of death and destruction cute. Daww, look at that carnivorous snowflake.
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Post by: Shadow0X3 on September 26, 2013, 12:39:54 am
They have to appeal to the younger audience as well. Cute probably isn't the best word. We've seen what the battle system is like, and while I certainly think it would've definitely been a step in the right direction to go a la Battle Revolution and give the creatures actual contact, I also wouldn't say by any means it's cute. As of right now it looks like everything is done via magic because they don't move. I'm wondering how they'll accomplish things like tackle, scratch, slash, etc where contact is almost demanded now that there are 3D models on a visible-distance field
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Post by: 1Ultima on September 26, 2013, 09:10:42 pm
Serebii.net said:
Following yesterday's reveal of Doublade, the official site has updated with the first direct feed pictures of this Pokémon. In addition to this, it reveals that Doublade knows the move Sacred Sword, which was originally exclusive to Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion and Keldeo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 26, 2013, 09:56:39 pm
Serebii.net said:
Following yesterday's reveal of Doublade, the official site has updated with the first direct feed pictures of this Pokémon. In addition to this, it reveals that Doublade knows the move Sacred Sword, which was originally exclusive to Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion and Keldeo.
And Flareon learns Sacred Fire. All generic bird Pokémon that you encounter on the first few routes have Aeroblast.
I mean, Wynaut?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on September 26, 2013, 10:06:44 pm
The CGI style is different from that of Pokémon Stadium and Pokémon Battle Revolution, because those games were supposed to emulate "realism within fantasy". Since the handheld Pokémon series is supposed to be accessible to everyone, battles were made "cuter".
I rarely swear to express how I feel about something, but in this particular case, fuck. Yes, make the battles with the being of death and destruction cute. Daww, look at that carnivorous snowflake.
To be fair those games look like shit but that doesn't make for good press. I think XY are a little too washed-out at times but it's far better than disregarding the previous games' style and going for something very bland and generic.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 26, 2013, 10:14:24 pm
Following yesterday's reveal of Doublade, the official site has updated with the first direct feed pictures of this Pokémon. In addition to this, it reveals that Doublade knows the move Sacred Sword, which was originally exclusive to Cobalion, Terrakion, Virizion and Keldeo.
And Flareon learns Sacred Fire. All generic bird Pokémon that you encounter on the first few routes have Aeroblast.
I mean, Wynaut?
To be fair, it has got sword in its name I think it might be a high level move Or at least nerfed. I dunno. We'll have to wait and see. Gonna name mine X Blade
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Post by: The Fisher King on September 26, 2013, 11:07:41 pm
I certainly love both forms of that Ghost/Steel type (Honedge & Doublade). Really freaking cool design.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 26, 2013, 11:10:45 pm
To be fair those games look like shit but that doesn't make for good press. I think XY are a little too washed-out at times but it's far better than disregarding the previous games' style and going for something very bland and generic.
I personally think cel-shading is perfect for Pokémon. It's like sprites, but in 3D. Perfect.
I think the Wii tried too hard with most of its graphics. Stadium looked terrible because N64 had low poly limits, and though Battle Rev. didn't look that bad (the trainers and Colosseums looked wonderful), the reused models from Stadium for Gen I and II Pokémon were unforgivable; Persian is the worst offender by far.
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Post by: Tyrant Belial on September 27, 2013, 02:56:52 am
I'm gonna name my X Cut.
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Post by: Kirishima on September 29, 2013, 06:29:53 am
It turns out that Mega Evolutions can only be accepted in battle if both trainers agree to use them. It's technically one per trainer, so no major sweeping from a MEvo if the opponent doesn't have one.
From Serebii's coverage on the latest Pokemon Smash.
In other stuff, I finally finished up my grueling training of Third Generation games, and looking back now, it's a major upgrade from how I played them a decade ago. Now I'm set for XY.
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Post by: 1Ultima on September 29, 2013, 12:22:44 pm
That's actually rather good thinking from Gamefreak. Stops them from being broken. Well, more broken.
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Post by: Shadow0X3 on September 29, 2013, 08:42:27 pm
So I've been looking for a plausible reason to get a 3DS and I guess this is it. The whole Honedge -> Doublade deal is a bit meh, since the idea was hardly good with Magnemite/Magneton, but the typing is just too good to pass up
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on September 29, 2013, 09:47:41 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 29, 2013, 09:53:54 pm
Poor Honedge Nerfed before he even got the chance to show its abilities
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Post by: The Fisher King on September 29, 2013, 09:56:53 pm
Indeed, Ghost/Steel would have been such a ridiculous typing. Know is just amazing because it is part Steel type :( Poor Honedge indeed. I don´t like Dark dealing normal damage with Steel but well, what can I do.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 29, 2013, 10:14:44 pm
And is that its tongue wrapped around Bubble Frogs final evo neck? It does look cool ,but lol.
Yeah it's it tounge
Also keep in mind that these are unconfirmed. Although Flying/Fighting would be awesome
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on September 29, 2013, 11:45:35 pm
If it's true that Flareon is going to learn Sacred Fire, it'll FINALLY have a good STAB physical move.
Doesn't mean it'll be any good, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on September 30, 2013, 12:05:06 am
It needs a Physical Fire-based Extremespeed, really.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on September 30, 2013, 12:08:58 am
Maybe they'll be a fire version of that ability Aurorus has.
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Post by: Mgbenz on September 30, 2013, 07:37:56 am
(http://i.imgur.com/sofnbej.png)
He's such a photoshop pro!
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Post by: Jexsam on September 30, 2013, 10:19:40 am
Okay, despite Fennekin's promising start, the frog is straight up winning in the "non-sucky evolutions" category between the starters.
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Post by: The Answer on October 02, 2013, 02:28:42 am
http://instagram.com/kosthedin#
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 02, 2013, 02:48:45 am
The games are being sold in Canada because some stores broke the Street date. Lucky bastards.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on October 02, 2013, 02:58:52 am
You can give your character facial hair this changes everything time to go preorder another copy since theirs probably only 1 save file.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 02, 2013, 02:59:42 am
Gengar tattoo is foreshadowing the dominance it'll have in this gen.
RBY Snorlax is back.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: PBRTODD101 on October 02, 2013, 05:01:59 am
Broken street dates are the reason I hate everything.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 02, 2013, 05:48:20 am
Spoiler: Espurr(click to see content)
(http://i.imgur.com/Hh98bzA.jpg)
Where's my dual-attacks?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 02, 2013, 09:31:51 am
Ugh. Greedy bastards wanting to get lots of money by selling the game prematurely.
Yeah, lets keep the spoilers and names under spoiler tags, hm? Not everyone wants to know everything about the game before actually playing it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 02, 2013, 12:48:00 pm
Those are review copies. As in copies they give to reviewers.
No shop actually has the game yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 02, 2013, 01:48:07 pm
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/b65f4b4e1cb8901f27c79f0546d79488/tumblr_mu1hwta35F1r8sc3ro1_400.jpg) Version exclusive Mega Charizard.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on October 02, 2013, 01:57:24 pm
Glad i did go an pre-ordered another copy but X keeps getting the better version of the exclusives.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 02, 2013, 02:33:11 pm
I really hope that "version exclusive" MEvos can be used on either version just by trading the item needed.
Still, love this design and typing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 02, 2013, 03:37:52 pm
Hell yes dat X version. I knew I pre-ordered the best version.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS) Sent
Post by: 1Ultima on October 02, 2013, 03:55:42 pm
So did I
Serebii.net said:
During todays special airing of Pokémon Origins within Japan, a new Mega Evolution was showcased. This is an alternate Mega Evolution of Charizard. This Mega Charizard is exclusive to Pokémon X and is called Mega Charizard X. It is also to be a Fire/Dragon-type Pokémon with the new ability of Tough Claws which improves the power of Physical contact attacks. Its Attack stat is increased.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 02, 2013, 04:14:25 pm
Serebii said:
Fire/Dragon-type
Fuck yes. No more Stealth Rock rape unless MEvos switch back to the default form when switching out.
Lack of Drought is kinda disappointing though. Still, this and MegaMewtwo X are reason alone to get X over Y imo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on October 02, 2013, 04:19:35 pm
Those are review copies. As in copies they give to reviewers.
No shop actually has the game yet.
False. This guy has his copy because the store broke the street date, several stores in Canada have.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 02, 2013, 04:28:49 pm
DAMN IT CANADA!!!!!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 02, 2013, 04:37:06 pm
And because THAT wasn't enough
Serebii.net said:
A new pamphlet has come out featuring two brand new Pokémon. These Pokémon are evolutions of Swirlix and Spritzee and are known in Japanese as Peroriimu and Furefuran respectively. Like their pre-evolutions, they are pure Fairy-type. This is not 100% confirmed at this time, but is almost certainly real.
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Post by: Ricepigeon on October 02, 2013, 04:42:50 pm
Shit just got real
EDIT: Image was taken off the guy's instagram by a cease & desist order from Nintendo, but it basically showed that the in-game player can have facial hair.
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Post by: Watta on October 02, 2013, 06:44:26 pm
During todays special airing of Pokémon Origins within Japan, a new Mega Evolution was showcased. This is an alternate Mega Evolution of Charizard. This Mega Charizard is exclusive to Pokémon X and is called Mega Charizard X. It is also to be a Fire/Dragon-type Pokémon with the new ability of Tough Claws which improves the power of Physical contact attacks. Its Attack stat is increased.
Charizard is finally a dragon type :tearsofjoy: FINALLY! Took them long enough :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on October 02, 2013, 07:33:36 pm
Just saw Fennekin's "final" Evo not sure how to feel about it.
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Post by: 1Ultima on October 02, 2013, 07:34:17 pm
Spoiler: Fennekin's final evo(click to see content)
They're all idiots. Tumblr's just as bad. "Hurr durr, Fennekin's evo looks shit lol #TeamChespin"
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 02, 2013, 09:19:14 pm
Seeing as the "version exclusive" Mega Evos have -ite X/Y for their items, we can safely assume that they're not really version exclusive...unless they prevent the trading of those items.
I remember making a joke that the fire starter would just turn into a Kitsune.
I am sad I appear to be correct.
It appears I was close with Fennekin. Chespin's actually looks interesting.
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Post by: Luis Alejandro on October 03, 2013, 04:53:00 am
Poor charmander...lmmfao
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on October 03, 2013, 05:33:10 am
I´m really disappointed with Fennekin final evo, the previous evo actually helped perceive the disappointment that was gonna be. The water frog doesn´t look too bad but definitely not what I was expecting. Chespin one is too awesome, holy shit.
Thank you GameFreak for making Mega Charizard part Dragon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on October 03, 2013, 09:21:33 am
I... actually don't hate Fennekin's final evo. I kinda... kinda like it.
Chespin revolts me, however. Oh my god why,
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 03, 2013, 09:46:51 am
This isn't the first time memes are injected into pokemon dialog but goddamn this is the worst
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on October 03, 2013, 08:04:58 pm
I don't know how you people enjoy anything if all you do is complain about pop culture references. Especially in a series like Pokemon who's very existence in the US seems to be for the purpose of seeing how they can incorporate internet phrases and speech into trainer dialogue. (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ShoutOut/Pokemon)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS) Sent
Post by: Xhominid on October 03, 2013, 09:01:13 pm
During todays special airing of Pokémon Origins within Japan, a new Mega Evolution was showcased. This is an alternate Mega Evolution of Charizard. This Mega Charizard is exclusive to Pokémon X and is called Mega Charizard X. It is also to be a Fire/Dragon-type Pokémon with the new ability of Tough Claws which improves the power of Physical contact attacks. Its Attack stat is increased.
Are...are you seriously complaining about a damn reference? ...I mean the "Over 9000" gag has been done for some time, but if it was a dead meme like "Arrow to the K-" *Nearly gets shot* "Ha, missed me you bastard!" *Tosses a grenade at the shooter*
As I was saying, if it was a dead or forced meme like "Arrow to the Knee", I could understand, but crying over "Over 9000" is very freaking petty at this point.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 03, 2013, 09:08:31 pm
Mega Aerodactyl
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://i.imgur.com/8ADhItR.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 03, 2013, 09:11:50 pm
Spoiler: Mega Aerodactyl ability and new Dragon(click to see content)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/07152f4a23efa016f1d421876707a3f5/tumblr_mu3wt7mIcY1qfyz1jo2_500.jpg) It also gets Mega Charizard X's ability (http://25.media.tumblr.com/f320c5d8b66bea8e8d1cebac03b75c85/tumblr_mu3yahF7ra1qkqcado1_500.jpg) (http://25.media.tumblr.com/4e0539f744d500a0ba62438d0c097c21/tumblr_mu3yahF7ra1qkqcado2_500.jpg)
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Post by: Girard on October 03, 2013, 10:01:47 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on October 04, 2013, 03:00:24 am
^ How the hell would that even work?? BTW, anyone know if Chespin´s final evo got another type accompaning grass?? looks like a Grass/Rock or Grass/Steel by just looking at him.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 04, 2013, 03:01:28 am
Spoiler: Keyblade pre-evo(click to see content)
(http://i.imgur.com/lWwHqc1.jpg)
:pwn:
I'm okay with this. Hope it has Levitate.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 04, 2013, 03:25:25 am
^ How the hell would that even work?? BTW, anyone know if Chespin´s final evo got another type accompaning grass?? looks like a Grass/Rock or Grass/Steel by just looking at him.
The move I'd assume would basically ignore the typing that would deal less damage. So if it was used on Blaziken, it would count as Flying for that instance since it would be super effective while Fighting wouldn't be very effective. Either that, or the resistances stack, so a super and not very would make a normal, However that would result in possible x8 super effectives. So it's likely the first.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 04, 2013, 04:35:10 am
Also includes info on Flying Press and Mega Evolutions.
Quote
Does a Mega stay Mega when it switches in? Yeah. Further, there is no way to de-Mega Evolve.
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Post by: Girard on October 04, 2013, 05:25:43 am
Spoiler: The pokemon no one cared to post Evo(click to see content)
(http://i.imgur.com/05x1iK1.jpg)
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Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 04, 2013, 06:10:40 am
Quote
Flying Press And I tested Flying Press on a pure Rock-type (Nosepass). It was neutrally effective.
So it's multiplicative? Fuck. time for x16 Super Effectives. (Though I don't know any pokemon off the top of my head whose typing makes it x4 weak to Flying and Fighting)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on October 04, 2013, 06:13:22 am
So Flying Press would be x4 on a Ferrothorn??? (Fighting super effective on Steel, Flying super effective on Grass??)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 04, 2013, 06:15:03 am
Spoiler: Dream World abilities?(click to see content)
(http://i.imgur.com/CX4ELRP.jpg)
Come to think of it, I never seen confirmation on Dream World supported in X/Y.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 04, 2013, 06:31:13 am
They keep surprising me every time they're revealed. I love really love this gen's Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 04, 2013, 08:59:39 am
Chesnaught is Grass/Fighting.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 04, 2013, 03:15:08 pm
Pumpkaboo the pumpkin Pokemon.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://i.imgur.com/42WkwsF.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 04, 2013, 05:05:01 pm
So that's why its an October release.......
Spoiler: Current list of new Pkmn so far.(click to see content)
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3033/ea47.png
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 04, 2013, 05:25:13 pm
Whatever. Makes nice food for thought at any rate.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 07, 2013, 12:52:52 am
Considering that most of the leaked screenshots weve seen so far corresponds with leaks dating back as early as May of this year, coupled with the fact that that message originates from 4chan, leads me to believe that everything we've seen is the real deal and this guy is full of shit. The fact that that one guy that got his copy of Pokemon X early and posted screenshots on his instagram and then was later forced to surrender his copy back to Nintendo representatives stationed at his local game store further solidifies this argument.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 07, 2013, 08:33:27 am
Team Flare leader
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://i.imgur.com/8j8EOIK.jpg)
Looks classy badass.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 07, 2013, 02:53:05 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Togepi is now Fairy while its evos are Fairy/Flying, and most folks now consider Togekiss the ultimate Dragon check.
All that hard work on Tri Attack......
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 07, 2013, 03:17:14 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on October 08, 2013, 05:35:51 am
This may sound stupid, but how many #'s are we up to in the pokedex as of X and Y? Have they, or are going to reach #666 in X and Y yet? Or is it still long way to go for that?
Before I posted this I already searched through multiple forums for an answer, and I got different results each time. X_X
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 08, 2013, 05:44:13 am
As of now.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
69 new Pokemon are revealed, 70+ if you include the inevitable Event Legendary. Totals up to 718+.
And for your other question look at my other post about #666.
Posted: October 08, 2013, 10:28:28 pm Soundtrack uploaded, complements of this user.
Note that there are spoilers of locations in some of these titles. Just tossing it out there.
It isn't so important that it needs to be spoilered. Saying that certain Pokemon having Mega evos is much more spoilerish and we've been mentioning them throughout this topic already.
And with that said leakers found Moltres and it's apparently #153 on the Coastal dex. It proves that the dexes exceed 150. THE PLOT THICKENS!
(http://i.imgur.com/ad2AAzp.png) Posted: October 10, 2013, 06:05:58 am
OMG dat 1:07 HOENN CONFIRMEMEDEDEDED!!!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on October 10, 2013, 10:55:39 am
The music in this game is actually really good. I've never considered Pokemon's soundtrack to be anything spectacular at all but this game has truly broken the mold.
Oh yes and....
Spoiler: GIGANTIC FUCKING STORY SPOILERS(click to see content)
Team Flare confirmed for best evil team. Their scheme is by far the most crazy, fucked up plot of any Pokemon antagonist to date. Their goal is to create a "beautiful world" by destroying civilization. How do they plan to do this you ask? Well you see they have a nice big nuclear weapon. Which runs on the life force of Pokemon. Team Flare kidnaps Pokemon so that the weak ones can be killed and have their life force fed to a death machine that will destroy everything they deem unfit for their beautiful world. Ladies and gentlemen, if Team Rocket were the Pokemon mob, these fuckers are Pokemon nazis.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shwa on October 10, 2013, 11:49:26 am
Spoiler: Godjesus man(click to see content)
That's kinda similar to the Pokemon Special/Adventures manga where Kanto's Elite Four wanted to destroy the human race via mass genocide - but got thwarted from doing so - and Lance visibly mercilessly destroying most of Vermilion City with hundreds of people and Pokemon at the surfing contest confirmed dead with him not giving a shit.
I understand you meant the Pokemon games, just felt like pointing that out. That Pokemon-powered nuke thing reminded me of how messed up Adventures was with some rather unsettling deaths all around.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 10, 2013, 12:51:35 pm
Holy fuck at Team Flare's goal. Just HOLY FUCK!! :o
They're freakin' nazis!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 10, 2013, 03:07:06 pm
Spoiler: Serebii leaks(click to see content)
To start off, Jigglypuff and the Gothita line have got a new ability called Competitive, which boosts its Special Attack stat when one of their stats is lowered. Kecleon has a new ability called Protean that changes the Pokémon's type to the type of the move it just used. The latter is demonstrated in a new kind of battles "Inverse Battles" where the type effectiveness is inversed. This is only done in Route 18 against a Psychic. It's a daily battle Game Locations Vaniville Town Aquacorde Town Santalune Forest Santalune City Lumiose City Camphrier Town Parfum Palace Connecting Cave Cyllage City Ambrette Town Glittering Cave Geosenge Town Reflection Cave Shalour City Courmaline City Sea Spirit's Den Kalos Power Plant Laverre City Poke Ball Factory Lost Hotel Dendemille Town Frost Cavern Anistar City Couriway Town Terminus Cave Snowbelle City Pokemon Village Victory Road Chamber of Emptiness Pokemon League Kiloude City Flare Cafe Team Flare HQ Azure Bay Kalos Battle Chateau Battle Maison Tower of Mastery
12:49: Weakness Policy: When held, it sharply increases the holder's Attack and Special Attack when it is hit by a move that is Super Effective Assault Vest: When held, it raises Special Defense, but prevents the user from using Status moves Safety Goggles: When held, this protects the holder from weather damage and powder moves Ability Capsule (Costs 200BP): Switches between the Primary and Secondary abilities on the Pokémon 12:55: Xerneas has two forms, merely appearance changes. One, the one we know, is in battle, the other is somewhat diluted and is how it appears outside of battle Friend Safari is located in the post-game. In it, it takes everyone on your friend list and makes them a specific type. When selected, Pokémon of that type appear (it'll take a while to catalogue, please bear with us). The Pokémon found here can have their Hidden Abilities. Unlike the Safari Zone, however, you can battle and use your own balls. 13:44: You can get give the Poké Radar later in the game
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on October 10, 2013, 07:35:19 pm
Holy shit, Pokemon Nazis!!!! :o Damn, that goal is really fucked up. Easily the evilest plan to date. Everything about this game is good :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 10, 2013, 07:39:55 pm
Spoiler: serebii(click to see content)
Weather abilities such as Drought, Drizzle etc. now only last 5 turns.
FINALLY a nerf that was needed
EDIT: Apparently its been confirmed that Mega Stones CAN be traded, so it is possible to have MegaCharizard X in Pokemon Y and vice-versa.
EDIT2: Serebii now has a list of version exclusives (http://serebii.net/xy/exclusives.shtml)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 10, 2013, 08:02:32 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 10, 2013, 09:35:53 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://serebii.net/corocoro11133.jpg)
Mega Gengar confirmed to have Shadow Tag ability. Mega Tyranitar confirmed to retain Rock/Dark typing with Sand Stream ability. Mega Aggron confirmed to be pure Steel-type with Filter ability.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 10, 2013, 09:53:08 pm
Not exactly related but Goddamn it PETA (http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/10/10/peta-makes-new-pokemon-parody-thinks-nintendo-is-ridiculous-for-releasing-two-versions-of-the-same-game)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 10, 2013, 09:55:31 pm
Aggron doesn't fuck around anymore with Fighting and Ground types.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Especially since now its only x1.5 instead of x4. Sucks that he loses stab on Head Smash and gets recoil back but oh well, still a MUCH better typing than before.
Not exactly related but Goddamn it PETA (http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/10/10/peta-makes-new-pokemon-parody-thinks-nintendo-is-ridiculous-for-releasing-two-versions-of-the-same-game)
Theyve been releasing two versions of the same game for 15 years and only NOW they say something about it?
EDIT: on a side note, Skrelp's evo confirmed for Poison/Dragon typing and Mr.Mime confirmed for Psychic/Fairy-typing, according to Serebii
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Long John Killer on October 10, 2013, 10:27:41 pm
Not exactly related but Goddamn it PETA (http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/10/10/peta-makes-new-pokemon-parody-thinks-nintendo-is-ridiculous-for-releasing-two-versions-of-the-same-game)
I guess PETA helped confirmed the real #666 Pokemon.
To start off, Jigglypuff and the Gothita line have got a new ability called Competitive, which boosts its Special Attack stat when one of their stats is lowered. Kecleon has a new ability called Protean that changes the Pokémon's type to the type of the move it just used. The latter is demonstrated in a new kind of battles "Inverse Battles" where the type effectiveness is inversed. This is only done in Route 18 against a Psychic. It's a daily battle Game Locations Vaniville Town Aquacorde Town Santalune Forest Santalune City Lumiose City Camphrier Town Parfum Palace Connecting Cave Cyllage City Ambrette Town Glittering Cave Geosenge Town Reflection Cave Shalour City Courmaline City Sea Spirit's Den Kalos Power Plant Laverre City Poke Ball Factory Lost Hotel Dendemille Town Frost Cavern Anistar City Couriway Town Terminus Cave Snowbelle City Pokemon Village Victory Road Chamber of Emptiness Pokemon League Kiloude City Flare Cafe Team Flare HQ Azure Bay Kalos Battle Chateau Battle Maison Tower of Mastery
12:49: Weakness Policy: When held, it sharply increases the holder's Attack and Special Attack when it is hit by a move that is Super Effective Assault Vest: When held, it raises Special Defense, but prevents the user from using Status moves Safety Goggles: When held, this protects the holder from weather damage and powder moves Ability Capsule (Costs 200BP): Switches between the Primary and Secondary abilities on the Pokémon 12:55: Xerneas has two forms, merely appearance changes. One, the one we know, is in battle, the other is somewhat diluted and is how it appears outside of battle Friend Safari is located in the post-game. In it, it takes everyone on your friend list and makes them a specific type. When selected, Pokémon of that type appear (it'll take a while to catalogue, please bear with us). The Pokémon found here can have their Hidden Abilities. Unlike the Safari Zone, however, you can battle and use your own balls. 13:44: You can get give the Poké Radar later in the game
IT HAS BEGUN
Spoiler: My thoughts(click to see content)
Competitive is the Special Attack version of Defiant. Though, I'm not sure what the OP meant. Only one stage or 2? Because this will greatly improve Wigglytuff assuming it retains its ability.
Inverse battles seems intriguing. I can see Electric and Normals being more common due to having their only weaknesses removed.
Protean is an auto "Conversion" that was exclusive to Porygon. Again, not sure if the OP meant it changes the user or the opponent and if it removes their second type. Froakie's Hidden Ability is also Protean.
Weakness Policy I can see it being used in Doubles for its partner capable of a quick sweep so its pretty nifty. Otherwise seems risky to use in actual battles.
Safety Goggles nulls weather damage and gives the user Grass type immunity to Powder/Spore moves. Not bad, but seems gimmicky. Shedinja could benefit from it at the cost of Focus Sash, I dunno.
Ability Capsule, holy shiz, this is great. Linoone gets a buff in this generation due to having the move Belly Drum for 10+ years and needing its second ability Gluttony badly. Expect to this one run rampant now. Other Pokemon from my mind that can also benefit from this are these.
Mr. Mime with Follow Me and Filter (though this one is exclusive to XD, but just tossing this out there).
Machamp with Metronome and No Guard. Who knows, auto Fissure?
Clefable with Softboiled and Magic Guard. Maybe Double Edge if it keeps the Normal type.
But other than that, I can defiantly see this to save time when you finish hatching eggs and get good stats but with the wrong ability. Bummer that you don't get Hidden abilitys because otherwise this would greatly change the metagame.
Safari Zone, yippie. Great you can use your own inventory, Safari Balls keep screwing up. I'm curious at what Pokemon are available.
Yes, I welcome the nerf to perma-weather. However this doesn't change anything in Doubles especially in VGC rules due to constant changing unless the weather doesn't get resetted. Singles however got shifted here and we may see the return of "Weather rock" items to boost up the turns just like in 4th Gen days.
Mega Aggron's going to be a pain to beat.
Spoiler: More info(click to see content)
Hordes can be encountered with Honey trees or Sweet Scent. There's also a chance that one of the Hordes might have a Hidden Ability. Also, Horde Pokemon has a chance of hitting one another during battle.
Sixth Generation Pokemon do have Hidden Abilities.
Lucario and Lapras are among the gift Pokemon you get in your journey.
Xerneas has two Formes. One that is "Active" and other that's "Neutral" based on the color of its horns. No word if it gives stat changes or anything other than cosmetic touches. Another Pokemon confirmed to have a different Formes are the Pumpkaboo line. It can be captured in different sizes based on its HP. However what makes Pumpkaboo unique is that upon trading it, the Speed lowers as it evolves into Gourgiest where its Attack increases depending on its size while its Speed lowers.
Furfrou requires grooming in order to unlock its designs, but the more you ignore grooming, it'll revert to its default Forme. More info as well as Aegislash's formes are here.
www.serebii.net/xy/forms.shtml
Gravity does not function under Sky Battle rules.
(http://i.imgur.com/dpOu4H5.jpg) Mega Banette Confirmed.
Roaming Pokemon has a high chance of fleeing BEFORE you even make a move.
Apparently Faint Attack is now "Feint Attack".
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 11, 2013, 12:50:13 am
I had Aggron in third gen, Mega Aggron is some neet news, So I guess I;m replacing Salamence instead with Tyrantrum.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 11, 2013, 01:02:11 am
Rock Tomb gains a buff. It's base power is now 60 and accuracy to 90, Technician users cheer. Hidden Power is now 60 by default as its base power is no longer determined on a Pokemon's IVs, however the typing still remains dependable on IVs. Fury Cutter now has double Base Power.
Low Sweep is now 65 BP.
Mega Pokemon gain an increase of 100 in stat total. Example - ST 485, MEvo ST 585.
Smogon said:
Blizzard: Reduced to 110 base power. Bubble: Increased to 40 base power. Fire Blast: Reduced to 110 base power. Frost Breath: Increased to 60 base Power. Fury Cutter: Increased to 40 base power. Hidden Power: Reduced to 60 base power. Low Sweep: Increased to 65 base power. Rock Tomb: Increased to 60 base power & 95 accuracy. Thunder: Reduced to 110 base power.
Serebii said:
Thunderbolt is now 90 Power, not 95. As is Flamethrower, Surf & Ice Beam Thunder, Blizzard, Hurricane, Fire Blast, Hydro Pump are now 110 Power, now 120. Moonlight, Sweet Kiss & Charm are Fairy-type. Will-O-Wisp's accuracy has been increased to 85%
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Arceus needs a new item called "Pixie Plate" in order to turn into a Fairy type.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 11, 2013, 01:31:22 am
Still no news on Mega Metagross?
Just found this nifty thing (http://observationdeck.io9.com/apparently-these-are-all-the-pokemon-who-get-mega-evolu-1294189700), looks like it's old though, still been accurate so fa- *Mega Wabbafet* FUCK NO.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 11, 2013, 01:41:52 am
Debunked because Gyarados and Aerodactyl. Posted: October 11, 2013, 02:01:35 am
Spoiler: Official reveal of starter's Final Evolutions(click to see content)
(http://pokebeach.com/news/1013/corocoro-chesnaught-delphox-greninja.jpg) Introducing Chestnaught (Grass/ Fighting), Delphox (Fire/Psychic), and Greninja (Water/Dark)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 11, 2013, 03:11:41 am
Spoiler: Mega Medicham and Pinsir(click to see content)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 11, 2013, 11:49:16 am
Spoiler: Mega Banette(click to see content)
(http://i.imgur.com/sS3XrqJ.png)
Man, serebii is a master at finding things.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on October 11, 2013, 12:14:35 pm
Mega Pinsir is scary as shit. Imagine that motherfucker flying at you in the middle of the park gotdam.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 11, 2013, 12:37:23 pm
Spoiler: Serebii(click to see content)
Serebii.net said:
Clefable is Pure Fairy-type You battle your rival in Kiloude City. Afterwards you get given an Absolite and sent to Sycamore who is in Anistar City. He will upgrade the Mega Ring to allow for detection of Mega Stones. The Mega Ring will only react to hidden Mega Stones after 8pm Mega Pinsir is Bug/Flying-type. It has the ability Aerilate which turns Normal-type moves into Flying-type Mega Stones can only be found between 8pm and 9pm Mega Banette is Ghost-type. It has the ability Prankster You find Looker later in the game and he hires you as his assistant to investigate things in Lumiose Whimsicott is Grass/Fairy-type Weight now plays a factor in the move Sky Drop
Spoiler: Mega Heracross(click to see content)
(http://i.imgur.com/04z0QOT.png) Y exclusive, is Bug/Fighting-type. It has the ability Skill Link
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 11, 2013, 02:27:34 pm
Thank goodness I withheld Double-Edge on Clefable due to that in my Emerald copy.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on October 11, 2013, 02:30:04 pm
According to certain individuals, that post game quest brings back....
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Colress
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 11, 2013, 03:40:05 pm
Ladies and gentlemen, a Mega Evolution thats actually worse than the base form
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 11, 2013, 05:12:35 pm
Spoiler: New Mega evo(click to see content)
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/3c276d9b201aa570220e921da62db048/tumblr_muiez0tNr11r8sc3ro1_400.png) Has Trace
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 11, 2013, 05:24:03 pm
Not sure if the 100 BST increase is going to justify it or not but it sounds like the base form still has the better ability... Same for Doublade and Aegislash.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 11, 2013, 05:33:03 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Has Trace ever been useful before? Like in the metagame? I've only seen it Ingame
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 11, 2013, 05:33:46 pm
Has Trace ever been useful before? Like in the metagame? I've only seen it Ingame
Porygon2, afaik.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 11, 2013, 06:10:28 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/5e3d896c27a24489cc539d0a4c1d586c/tumblr_muii0paSHM1r8sc3ro1_400.jpg) After 5 generations of nothing, Flareon finally gets Flare Biltz. Apparently. Waiting for English translation
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Bad News GBK on October 11, 2013, 06:13:06 pm
1Ultima these many posts with one image for each post are a bit irritating, can you make one post with multiple images instead of so many please?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 11, 2013, 06:23:41 pm
Alright. Fair enough.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 11, 2013, 07:04:09 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/5e3d896c27a24489cc539d0a4c1d586c/tumblr_muii0paSHM1r8sc3ro1_400.jpg) After 5 generations of nothing, Flareon finally gets Flare Biltz. Apparently. Waiting for English translation
About freaking time, too... Finally now I can add that to my choice band set along with uhh... umm... Bite? Giga Impact? Rock Smash?
...
Dig?
...
fuck...
EDIT: Forgot that it gets Superpower and Facade... But still...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 11, 2013, 08:36:40 pm
Spoiler: more megas(click to see content)
(http://www.serebii.net/xy/temp/00567.png) Mega Houndoom. Houndoom is exclusive to X but Houndoominite is exclusive to Y. It has the ability Solar Power
(http://www.serebii.net/xy/temp/00575.png) Mega Manectric. Manectricis exclusive to Y but Manectite is exclusive to X. It has the ability Intimidate (which activates after Mega Evolution) and is pure Electric
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 11, 2013, 09:32:07 pm
Dunno if mentioned before, but Mega Absol's ability confirmed to be Magic Bounce.
And Houndoom is exclusive to X, huh? Looks like I made the right choice, but sucks I wont be able to get that sweet MEvo of his during normal playthrough. Posted: October 12, 2013, 12:58:40 am
Spoiler: Mega Scizor(click to see content)
(http://serebii.net/megasci.jpg) Bug/Steel with Technician
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: c001357 on October 12, 2013, 02:17:17 am
http://www.twitch.tv/werster (http://www.twitch.tv/werster) this guy is already streaming with a yveltal in his party. spoilers, obviously its also on eu's eshop for a while now
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on October 12, 2013, 02:21:39 am
Ladies and gentlemen, a Mega Evolution thats actually worse than the base form
Fuck you Stealth Rock... loving all these mega evolutions, they all look very nice :D Very good
Yeah, Scizor definitely needed a mega form...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 12, 2013, 09:55:20 am
I just got home from the midnight release with my copy of X. Why I haven't played it yet is beyond me, given the fact that I'm liable to explode from hype at any moment.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: PBRTODD101 on October 12, 2013, 10:17:21 am
waiting for dat Mega Ferrothorn and Genesect
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tamez on October 12, 2013, 10:36:26 am
Ladies and gentlemen, a Mega Evolution thats actually worse than the base form
And once again, Pinsir carries on the proud tradition of being a shittier Heracross.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on October 12, 2013, 01:25:30 pm
C'mon Game Freak, give us a Mega Druddigon already :llama:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 12, 2013, 03:23:54 pm
Why not Mega Garbodor, or Mega Stunfisk? I'm also curious as to what method is used to transfer Pokemon from Black/White and it's sequels into X and Y. I got some stuff I need to send over, like a Lv. 71 Lugia I just happen to have.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 12, 2013, 04:19:50 pm
I'm also curious as to what method is used to transfer Pokemon from Black/White and it's sequels into X and Y. I got some stuff I need to send over, like a Lv. 71 Lugia I just happen to have.
http://serebii.net/xy/poketransporter.shtml
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 12, 2013, 05:43:20 pm
Thanks Krishima.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 12, 2013, 06:45:13 pm
Is it just me or did Santalune Forest look familiar? Also should we start trading friend codes and shit like that?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on October 12, 2013, 08:25:50 pm
So far no mega Smeargle.
;_;
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 12, 2013, 08:56:04 pm
That list of Pokemon that were trademarked waaaaaaay back was completely accurate on the mega evolutions. Afaik only Latios and Latias are left out of the list.
Btw I have my copy and have been playing non-stop. This game is soooooo awesome. Also it's so long. I'm about 6 hours in and I'm not even near the 2nd gym yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: xPreatorianx1 on October 12, 2013, 09:27:26 pm
Not exactly related but Goddamn it PETA (http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/10/10/peta-makes-new-pokemon-parody-thinks-nintendo-is-ridiculous-for-releasing-two-versions-of-the-same-game)
Do they even realize that by explaining how Chickens are killed to our youth, they are doing WAY WORSE to our children than a Pokemon game ever could? Oh and way worse to our children than a pokemon game ever could to animals. I mean seriously... it's not like Pokemon is telling you to enslave or slaughter animals. Plus Pokemon is fictional. Most of the pokemon created don't look anything like animals on our planet.
PETA are doing way more harm than good with these damn "save the animals" campaigns. Not only are they graphically depicting, and explaining to kids what food chains do to animals, but they are grossly exaggerating and misunderstanding the message that Pokemon stands for. Pokemon is all about caring and living harmoniously with "animals." Not slaughtering or enslaving them.
Seriously...PETA are fucking morons. Plus how do they expect us to survive? I'm sorry but humans naturally were born as Omnivores. Our systems are designed that way. So I'm sorry but I don't care how animals are killed to feed me. I mean animals kill and slaughter each other every day. But I don't see PETA complaining about that.
EDIT: Oh then the dumbasses even try to say that Pokemon X & Y are only slightly altered versions of Pokemon Black and White 2. When X&Y marks the first generation of Pokemon to make it into the realm of 3D models instead of sprites.
PS: Sorry about any grammar or sentence structure related mistakes. I'm having some problems articulating myself for some damn reason. I guess it's because I'm sick.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 12, 2013, 09:40:39 pm
Stop taking PETA seriously.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: xPreatorianx1 on October 12, 2013, 09:42:55 pm
Sorry it just pisses me off sometimes that political organizations can do such stupid shit. Oh and cause tons more damage to our children than the very thing they are protesting.
Aggron doesn't fuck around anymore with Fighting and Ground types.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Especially since now its only x1.5 instead of x4. Sucks that he loses stab on Head Smash and gets recoil back but oh well, still a MUCH better typing than before.
Not exactly related but Goddamn it PETA (http://www.gamezone.com/news/2013/10/10/peta-makes-new-pokemon-parody-thinks-nintendo-is-ridiculous-for-releasing-two-versions-of-the-same-game)
Theyve been releasing two versions of the same game for 15 years and only NOW they say something about it?
EDIT: on a side note, Skrelp's evo confirmed for Poison/Dragon typing and Mr.Mime confirmed for Psychic/Fairy-typing, according to Serebii
Actually what they are talking about here is the fact that Pokemon black and white 2 were released not too long ago and now X&Y are released. But they fail to see that X&Y is the first generation to use actual 3D models for the Pokemon and everything else. Where as last gen only had buildings, etc using 3D models.
EDIT: Also anyone know where to get a used 3DS for cheap in the US? I seriously need to buy me a 3DS!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Rajaa on October 12, 2013, 10:28:07 pm
No mega Farfetch'd?! I just caught a shiny Farfetch'd, therefore, it should have a mega form -- or something.
=/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 12, 2013, 10:38:27 pm
Am I wrong for wondering what the base stats are for the MEvos so I can determine if its worth using them or if I'm better off using Life Orb/Choice items?
Because assuming that that 100 BST increase is split evenly among 5 stats, an increase in 20 base doesn't exactly feel enough to justify losing the extra power from even Life Orb, unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 12, 2013, 10:39:32 pm
Not one bit. I'm a bit curious as well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 13, 2013, 12:39:47 am
Am I wrong for wondering what the base stats are for the MEvos so I can determine if its worth using them or if I'm better off using Life Orb/Choice items?
Because assuming that that 100 BST increase is split evenly among 5 stats, an increase in 20 base doesn't exactly feel enough to justify losing the extra power from even Life Orb, unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 13, 2013, 01:43:02 am
So MegaMewtwo Y gets a 100 BST increase while MegaTwo X only gets 80 BST increase? lame..
At least Life Orb regular Mewtwo still has a higher Sp.Atk stat than MegaTwo Y and that a Mixed Attacking MegaTwo X is viable.
Yeah, Im sticking with my choice for X.
EDIT: HOLY FUCKING SHIT @ Knock Off's buff:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Knock Off is now base 65 AND does double damage if the opponent is holding an item. In other words, it went from 20 -> 130
just... holy.. fuck...
EDIT2: Supposedly Serebii found that Critical Hits only do 150% damage now instead of 200%, and that Storm Throw and Frost Breath's base powers were increased to compensate.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on October 13, 2013, 02:33:43 am
Sorry it just pisses me off sometimes that political organizations can do such stupid shit. Oh and cause tons more damage to our children than the very thing they are protesting.
They are a self parody. It's obvious they do this stuff for kicks.
So MegaMewtwo Y gets a 100 BST increase while MegaTwo X only gets 80 BST increase? lame..
At least Life Orb regular Mewtwo still has a higher Sp.Atk stat than MegaTwo Y and that a Mixed Attacking MegaTwo X is viable.
I think life orb/choice item buff is why Mega Mewtwo Y gets a higher BST since its regular special attack is higher, therefore percentage boost items are more significant than they are with its attack.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hoshi on October 13, 2013, 02:57:56 am
I'm waiting for Mega Dugtrio
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Luis Alejandro on October 13, 2013, 03:44:49 am
(http://i.imgur.com/j6HVbSm.jpg)
Uh oh
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Snakebyte on October 13, 2013, 04:56:26 am
Guess what I found.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://imageshack.us/a/img707/5597/uvyr.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 13, 2013, 05:53:33 am
Spoiler: Shiny Chesnaught(click to see content)
(http://i.imgur.com/WmihuTh.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: brightview on October 13, 2013, 06:36:48 am
mega scizor looks like deoxy A, lol, plus mega hera have nose. o_O
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Simplistic Fubini on October 13, 2013, 03:57:18 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 13, 2013, 07:45:57 pm
Haven't beaten the 2nd Gym yet, but I'm kinda curious as to what my Inkay/Malamar should do. Should I use the Swaggar/Foul Play set-up or use Tospy-Turvy whenever my opponent tries to raise their stats?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on October 13, 2013, 07:53:21 pm
One is really high risk and the other is situational. Interesting choice.
Oh well the final choice will pretty much be Super Power with the Contrary ability anyways.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 13, 2013, 08:18:21 pm
So Serebii found a new entry hazard:
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Sticky Web The user weaves a sticky net around the opposing team, which lowers their Speed stat upon switching into battle.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on October 13, 2013, 08:21:03 pm
I heard about that too and boy does this entry hazard sound annoying as hell. However if you're playing trick room the joke's on them :3c
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 13, 2013, 08:26:41 pm
Or the aftermentioned Malamar with Contrary.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on October 13, 2013, 10:05:42 pm
Serebii got updated since the last time I saw it.
http://www.serebii.net/xy/megaevolutions.shtml
There's more of them now. Some of them are....weird mang ._.
and the third legendary...
Spoiler: "open at your own risk"(click to see content)
Umm... Posted: October 14, 2013, 01:53:28 am On a more serious note, there seems to be some evidence suggesting that Xerneas/Yveltal and Pokemon caught in Friend Safari are guaranteed to have at least 2 stats with max IVs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on October 14, 2013, 03:45:20 am
When does Swirlix learn good fairy moves? I'm leveling him up but he's just kinda there with his face and stuff.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 14, 2013, 04:42:02 am
is it worth getting Shedinja?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 14, 2013, 04:46:59 am
Other than a dex entry, not much, unless you know how to handle Shedinja for he may come in handy against Pokemon without any way to damage him.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 14, 2013, 10:31:45 am
First day buy this was.
Not going to lie, they've tortured MANY of the cries, converting them into horrible high-pitched sqeals :(
Zigzagoon, what have they done to you?! Kirlia's needs to be longer like it was before.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 14, 2013, 05:21:41 pm
According to Serebii, some Pokemon that had unreleased Hidden Abilities from Gen 5 have had their Hidden Abilities changed. Litwick's evo line, for instance, now has Infiltrator as its Hidden Ability instead of Shadow Tag.
Oh as far as the Legendary Birds are concerned, the one you encounter is based on your Kalos starter (Chespin = Articuno, Fennekin = Zapdos, Froakie = Moltres) and they stop running away only if you encounter them at Azure Bay.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on October 14, 2013, 05:24:35 pm
Yeah, I'll wait til Pokemon Z to consider buying it.
With how easy Black/White 2 was and such, I aint in a rush to get X or Y.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 14, 2013, 09:07:01 pm
http://serebii.net/xy/breeding.shtml
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The most notable change is that Hidden Abilities, which previous required you to have the mother with the Hidden Ability, can now be bred without the mother having it. If the father has got the Hidden Ability, there is a small chance that the offspring will also have their Hidden Ability.
Fucking awesome. About time they allowed fathers to pass on Hidden Ability flags, but I'm even more stoked that it doesn't require the mother to have Hidden Abilities at all. Finally we can start breeding legit female starters with them.
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Pokémon Amie boosts EXP yeild for the Pokémon after battle
Brb gotta stroke my Machoke some more :smug:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 14, 2013, 09:30:41 pm
Was wondering why Blaziken was leveling like, twice as fast as everyone else. Posted: October 14, 2013, 10:07:49 pm Gollett single handedly defeated the entire 3rd gym. "it doesn't effect Golett"
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on October 15, 2013, 01:49:00 am
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/67488169 It seems like someone might have found a game breaking bug.
So, yeah, beware of this.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 15, 2013, 03:05:20 am
Didnt Nintendo/TPCi say that they were not going to be releasing any patches whatsoever for X & Y?
If so then FFFFFFFFFFFF....
I had a feeling the game was rushed and this confirms it. Still fun as all hell though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Miko Itsumi on October 15, 2013, 04:22:15 am
Had a glitch earlier where my game error'd and shut down after disconnecting from the internet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 15, 2013, 04:43:42 am
Semi-related to X&Y; Showdown now has Gen 6 support.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on October 15, 2013, 05:25:43 am
Should be getting my copy in the next day or so. This question occurred to me.
What's the encounter rate like? B/W's was infuriating at times and I'm kinda hoping X/Y has dialed it back some.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 15, 2013, 05:40:35 am
Was wondering why Blaziken was leveling like, twice as fast as everyone else.
It's a traded Poke mate.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 15, 2013, 05:52:41 am
Anyone find where to get Aron and Beldum yet?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 15, 2013, 06:16:33 am
Wonder trade is a double-edged sword. It's exciting that you'll never know what you'll get....unless it's Flabebe.
So...much...Flabebes...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 15, 2013, 11:35:06 am
They couldn't have made the whole clothes shopping thing any more gay fabulous if they tried.
On a side note, I saw a Gible yesterday. A Gible. Screw the adventure, I'm going to catch me one of those bastards once I've caught a blasted Ralts with Synchronize.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on October 15, 2013, 11:39:14 am
Didnt Nintendo/TPCi say that they were not going to be releasing any patches whatsoever for X & Y?
If so then FFFFFFFFFFFF....
I had a feeling the game was rushed and this confirms it. Still fun as all hell though.
When did they say that? Nintendo have patched 3DS games with less critical bugs before (Mario Kart 7) and provided methods to fix games with similar issues that were more complicated to patch (the Skyward Sword save update channel)
There's been post-release support for a lot of bugs in previous Pokemon games, it's just been rolled into later carts or done in the period while the games were being translated; like being able to surf onto a door and go through the blank space between maps and the broken escalator that gets you stuck in Japanese Diamond/Pearl copies, the bug that breaks the Zoroark sequence in Japanese copies of B/W2 and a bunch of graphical glitches/script bugs in various games.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 15, 2013, 01:25:51 pm
I believe they said they wouldn't be providing balance fixes, nothing about actual bug fixing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on October 15, 2013, 02:17:37 pm
Like people said, Nintendo have patched up their games in the past before for less major items.
It would be an embarrassment for them to not provide support for their games.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 15, 2013, 03:25:09 pm
Semi-related to X&Y; Showdown now has Gen 6 support.
So the data has been extracted or are they using what is available?
So far seems to be just whats available. Its also imperfect to a degree as its still using the Gen 5 engine with a few changes, like MEvos being classed as standalone Pokes and therefore able to hold items (Life Orb MegaMewtwo Y is fucking scary but thank god its not legal).
Theres also a lot of people who feel that MegaGengar should be in ubers. Talonflame may end up becoming BL at minimum and Aegislash is becoming a serious contender for OU. MegaLucario more or less replaced regular Lucario due to boost in speed, and Togekiss's retyping is forcing dragons to run non-stab steel and poison moves, causing them to suffer from 4 slot move syndrome. I wouldn't be surprised if Togetic ends up returning to OU because of this.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 15, 2013, 04:47:53 pm
I dunno, I rather wait until much more info has been sorted out. I can agree that Mega Gengar is too powerful and Aegislash is set for "OU" though trying to get use to its ability might take a while.
On a side note, after messing around with GTS and traded about 7+ Charmanders, I finally got a decent one with Modest and yes I'm playing with Pokemon-X so I don't have access to tiny claws there but given how early you can get the Kanto starters, it won't be long until I play a spare demo, speed-run my way there, snag the stone and trade it to my version.
Apparently you can trade the same starters even adding a short description on it. I like that you can now filter search with the Pokemon you caught. I might try this again with Froakie. It also fills up "acquaintances" and it kinda gets annoying.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 15, 2013, 04:59:59 pm
Theres some reports on Smogon stating that Toxic ignores accuracy and evasion modifiers if used by a poison type now.
Oh and there's also confirmation that sleep reverted back to pre-Gen 5 mechanics, so Rest is now a viable move again.
EDIT: Weather rocks confirmed to extend the duration of weather abilities just like they do the moves (8 instead of 5)
EDIT2: There now seems to be speculation that Roar, Whirlwind, and Dragon Tail's forced switches are now affected by weight (people are reporting the moves to fail against heavier pokemon)
EDIT3: Confirmation that Transform/Imposter copies MEvos and not the base form:
(http://i.imgur.com/LwEjLH6.png)
EDIT4: Rumors are popping up that Stealth Rock now disappears if the user faints. If true then this is a MASSIVE nerf to SR and one that I welcome very much.
EDIT5: According Trevor in Geosenge Town (http://www.serebii.net/xy/dailyevent.shtml), some of the questions allegedly asked include "a 3-headed dragon", "a pokemon that stores its power in its cheecks", "an eon pokemon", "a pokemon from space" and "a grass-type pokemon with vines". MegaHydreigon, MegaRaichu, MegaLatios/as, MegaDeoxys/Clefable, and MegaTangrowth confirmed?
EDIT6: (http://puu.sh/4Qh48.JPG) Theyre really going overboard with memes this gen arent they?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on October 15, 2013, 11:57:28 pm
EDIT4: Rumors are popping up that Stealth Rock now disappears if the user faints. If true then this is a MASSIVE nerf to SR and one that I welcome very much.
YES, YES, YES!! Hope that rumour ends being a reality!! A nerf is needed for that move.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on October 16, 2013, 01:39:31 am
EDIT4: Rumors are popping up that Stealth Rock now disappears if the user faints. If true then this is a MASSIVE nerf to SR and one that I welcome very much.
YES, YES, YES!! Hope that rumour ends being a reality!! A nerf is needed for that move.
Agreed!
I longed for the day that the mistake will be fixed!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 16, 2013, 01:56:23 am
There now seems to be varying claims regarding Stealth Rock. I'm now hearing claims that Rock types now absorb Stealth Rock the same way Poison types absorb Toxic Spikes.
Also saw claims that Stealth Rock now only last 3 turns/hits, but those claims were soon debunked.
I fear the worst. Nerf everything except the one move that needed it most.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on October 16, 2013, 02:04:33 am
Another way of making Stealth Rock less powerful is making Rapid Spin more worthy of use, buffing it or something but sadly not everyone can learn that particular move. The rock absorption sounds interesting and it makes sense. Making Stealth Rock last certain amount of turns would be a hell of a nerf... and I won´t be mad about it, at all. Go ahead.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 16, 2013, 03:13:50 am
Been addicted to GTS lately. Finally snagged a JPN-Froakie with decent stats after trading the same one over and over while my Acquaintances stack up.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 16, 2013, 03:27:06 am
Im wondering if we should start posting FCs and stuff
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 16, 2013, 03:38:10 am
. . .I hate Xerneas.
So now I have this Metang early.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on October 16, 2013, 08:12:38 am
Im wondering if we should start posting FCs and stuff
Hm, might not be a bad idea.
Here's mine to start this off.
1762-2823-8581
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 16, 2013, 08:34:46 am
3454-0655-4238
Show me your Pokemahns.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 16, 2013, 12:10:58 pm
3497 0478 3625
I've added everyone here But I don't really battle much
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 16, 2013, 12:34:00 pm
I don't really battle online as well. Friend codes are still useful for Friend Safari though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 16, 2013, 01:04:54 pm
Apparently my Friend Safari has Chansey Audino and Lilipup.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 16, 2013, 04:57:39 pm
Some minor tidbits and info from Smogon's Gen 6 Data Collection Thread: (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-xy-data-collection.3489182/page-36)
Partial Trapping moves like Infestation and Fire Spin now deal 1/8 passive damage instead of 1/16
Mewtwo and Zygarde have perfect IVs in at least three stats just as Xerneas and Yveltal do
There appears to be evidence that the base stats of certain older Pokemon were tampered with, including Pikachu and Butterfree, the latter of which supposedly had its base Sp.Atk increased from 80 to 90 according to calculations
The Oblivious ability now makes the Pokemon immune to Taunt
Contrary to its in-game description, Knock Off does NOT double in base power if the opponent is holding an item
King's Shield does not block status moves like Will-o-Wisp
The rate of shiny encounters appears to have increased, as evidenced here (http://www.smogon.com/forums/attachments/shiny-png.2224/)
Flareon confirmed to learn Flare Blitz and Contrary Serperior is now legal
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on October 16, 2013, 05:17:23 pm
4441-8429-5620 I also play other shit. I've been steamrolling every trainer so far with my braixen, farfetch'd, and pokerus'd frogadier so far.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on October 16, 2013, 06:46:24 pm
Yeah, I'll wait til Pokemon Z to consider buying it.
With how easy Black/White 2 was and such, I aint in a rush to get X or Y.
I was thinking the same thing. In Black/White 2, the system was upgraded a lot and many cool new features were added, plus it was a lot easier to level up Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 16, 2013, 10:39:24 pm
So apparently I got about 13 of Synchonize Ralts/Abra for Nature farming excluding Modest and Careful. GTS helped out so much in farming Ralts, but until I find a Daycare. Also, I've yet to get my second badge and says here I have over 30+ hours in gametime.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 16, 2013, 11:46:34 pm
Friend Code: 3754-7572-2196 Just beat the Elite Four. Gonna check out the Friend Safari and hope for a Larvesta.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 17, 2013, 12:59:16 am
0232-8852-3659
I lamed out the Flood Chamber so hard, Gyarados had both Earthquake and Waterfall and one shot everyone except Aggron cus Aggron had Sturdy. So I just healed him to full each time and he wasted all his moves, it took 40 turns. Everything after was pisspoor easy due to it.
For those wondering, Blaziken, Aggron, Metagross, Golurk, Tyrantrum, Vespiquen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 17, 2013, 01:47:07 am
^added Also where did you find Beldum?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 17, 2013, 01:55:41 am
I didn't, I said I didn't like Xerneas. :llama:
That being said, he's only in Steel-type Friend Safari's, no Beldum's, only Metangs. so only optainable after the Pokemon League.
I just discovered Super Training, Holy shit Aggron's has Perfect Defense IV, it' through the fucking roof.
Yes I'm saying I traded Xerneas the moment I got him.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 17, 2013, 02:29:40 am
Seeing as I forgot to add mine earlier
4527-8527-5030
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 17, 2013, 02:40:30 am
Added 1Ultima and also added Rice.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 17, 2013, 02:43:28 am
Sure, why not.
4725-8894-5991
Just got Careful Ralts from GTS. All that's missing is Modest. Off to GTS!
V - Added
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 17, 2013, 02:46:31 am
4038 - 6179 - 1020 Please let me know if you've added me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 17, 2013, 03:05:07 am
^added
One thing I don't know yet, if I reset a pokemon's EV's does it also reset it stats, or does it still have the stats given from previous levels?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 17, 2013, 03:09:23 am
All it loses is Effort Values gained from Super Training and wild encounters. You'll notice a few stat drops afterwards but it'll be fresh enough for training.
I was lucky to come across a Reset Bag. These things are very rare to find.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 17, 2013, 03:10:31 am
All it loses is Effort Values gained from Super Training and wild encounters. You'll notice a few stat drops afterwards but it'll be fresh enough for training.
I was lucky to come across a Reset Bag. These things are very rare to find.
Just keep smacking a normal bag, quicker then doing the minigames, also good cus Blaziken is level 80 and I thought Super Training was a place not a function :X
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on October 17, 2013, 03:14:51 am
Added everybody that posted my friend code is 5429-6897-2374
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 17, 2013, 03:14:57 am
Added C.A.N as well.
Global Link is live. Game Sync to further enhance single-player content, somewhat.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 17, 2013, 03:16:24 am
4038 - 6179 - 1020 Please let me know if you've added me.
Added.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 17, 2013, 03:31:27 am
Added everyone so far.
Some people haven't added me back yet.
Like O. Gill. Fuck Orochi Gill. >:(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 17, 2013, 03:35:41 am
Yo, if any of you see me online feel free to invite me to a battle. If I'm not doing something important or whatever I'll probably accept. If I don't accept, I'll probably ping you when I'm ready. I'll probably randomly ping people without warning hoping for a battle anyways so yeah. :V
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 17, 2013, 03:47:11 am
Lol nice one Xan. I completely suck at this game. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 17, 2013, 03:48:59 am
Nah, you did fine. That fuckin Spiky Shield caught my poor Blaziken off guard (I gotta get used to it :V). Good games. :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 17, 2013, 04:46:08 am
Finished Super Training Blaziken, need to finish Metagross and Aggron now, everyone else are fine EV wise
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 17, 2013, 05:01:45 am
Added everyone here My fc again is 3497 0478 3625
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on October 17, 2013, 05:03:06 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 17, 2013, 05:07:04 am
^ Added.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 17, 2013, 05:58:45 am
So I caught up with the buzz about Aegislash and geez, this thing is amazing from what I'm seeing. I might make 3 sets post-game just to go creative on its playstyle. Already Gen IV'a looking sweet.
Also Unlimited Puzzle Hell in Amie just strained my wrist =[
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 17, 2013, 02:13:54 pm
Use head up Its much better. Also does anyone have a spare Dusk Stone?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 17, 2013, 05:07:31 pm
You can get em from the Secret Super training, as with every other evolution stone.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Blackmore on October 17, 2013, 06:03:04 pm
I'd post my ccode as well, but I'm not even at the second gym yet, and I'd just get slaughtered. :y
Also, Pokemon Amie is too freaking cute. I just....
:swoon:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 17, 2013, 08:13:36 pm
Well I've added everyone who posted. Also you should max out Amie, it increases XP Gained.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on October 17, 2013, 08:41:46 pm
I've sunk nearly ten hours into this game already and I only have one badge.
Also I feel like there's lots of places and things being shoveled at me but none of it has any substance.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 17, 2013, 08:53:53 pm
So just for shits and giggles I offered a freshly caught lv 5 Ledyba on Wonder Trade and got a lv 38 Gengar in return. And I just beat the 1st gym after finishing up early EV training beforehand. Posted: October 17, 2013, 09:44:18 pm According to Serebii, Infiltrator now makes moves bypass Substitute, and the Move Relearner can now make your Pokemon remember Egg Moves if they have previously learned any.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on October 18, 2013, 12:46:17 am
2251 5176 3967 im playing Pokemon X. Add me guys! lemme know when u do! XD!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Blackmore on October 18, 2013, 01:37:53 am
Oh god, the facial expressions are difficult to nail.
Although if I were filming myself, it would probably be pretty damn hilarious.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on October 18, 2013, 01:52:48 am
Also, for those who have not caught Xerneas/Yveltal yet and are wondering, their catch rate is extremely high, around a 75% chance if you just throw a pokeball at em on turn 1.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on October 18, 2013, 01:59:17 am
Also, for those who have not caught Xerneas/Yveltal yet and are wondering, their catch rate is extremely high, around a 75% chance if you just throw a pokeball at em on turn 1.
The catch rate seems pretty high... But I still wouldn't soft reset for one.
Since there's a cutscene of it showing up. And after you catch it, you're thrown into a boss fight with no chance to check it's nature.
Then to top that off, a long cutscene plays after the boss fight.
So in short, even if the capture doesn't take long, everything else will.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on October 18, 2013, 02:02:18 am
Hawlucha is amazing.
Anyway I might just throw out my friend code in the future but be warned I'm casual as hell and would serve as little more than a punching bag to most.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Flamme on October 18, 2013, 02:32:14 am
I've sunk nearly ten hours into this game already and I only have one badge.
Also I feel like there's lots of places and things being shoveled at me but none of it has any substance.
I've played for about 12 and have 4 since I bought it. It's the little adventurer in me lol.
Quick question though, is Pikachu the only pokemon in the game that has its anime "cry"
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Iced on October 18, 2013, 02:34:34 am
bidoof also has it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 18, 2013, 02:42:02 am
Pretty sure I encountered a Bidoof earlier and it still had its cry from Diamond & Pearl.
EDIT: Just checked its cry in the Pokedex and, although its been updated, its still recognizeable as its ingame cries from past gens. So yeah, only Pikachu says its name.
Edit2: Added Ultima, Gill, Ding, Kirishima, and Royce
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Some Guy on October 18, 2013, 04:24:17 am
My code is 5155-3501-7689.
If anyone adds me let me know I guess.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on October 18, 2013, 05:13:31 am
Added everyone who posted their code mines: 2406 5234 8660 I don't really do the competitive Mons but maybe my safari will be useful.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 18, 2013, 05:58:12 am
Finally got 5 stars in Puzzle Hell on Unlimited settings. This trial is insane even though I found an easier way to maintain seconds while ranking points. The reward is a medal that boost Pokemiles for Rare Candy grinding.
Amazing a week is about to pass and I've yet to make any real progress. Recently added Pancham and Honedge as well as a 31 Att IV Snorlax thanks to Synchronize. Going for Inkay next. Planning on getting as much done postgame in time for competion online.
Also Amie is addicting. Posted: October 18, 2013, 02:44:23 pm Aaaaand I just got the Pokerus during Inkay farming. Not sure if chances of getting it are high due to Hordes but nevertheless I won't have to rely on Super Training anymore once I get Power Boost items.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 18, 2013, 03:01:27 pm
So apparently some new information regarding breeding according to Serebii (http://serebii.net/xy/breeding.shtml):
Mothers can now pass egg moves. (No more illegal egg move combinations!)
Fathers can only pass hidden abilities if the mother belongs to the same evolutionary line as the father, or if the mother is Ditto
Destiny Knot now guarantees that at least 5 IVs will be passed down from both parents.
Posted: October 18, 2013, 03:07:26 pm EDIT: Nintendo is now aware of the Lumiose city save bug and is working on a patch (http://www.destructoid.com/nintendo-responds-to-game-breaking-pokemon-x-y-bug-263781.phtml)
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A few days ago, we made light of a potential game-breaking glitch for Pokemon X & Y -- if you save outside in Lumiose City, your game may crash and your save file may become corrupt. While a Reddit user seems to have discovered a potential fix in mashing your home button until it works again, Nintendo has become aware of the issue, and is working on a more long term solution.
Apparently their fix will work on already corrupted files, as well as making sure it doesn't happen again. An ETA hasn't been given, but if you have a massive amount of Pokemon already attached to your save, you may as well wait before restarting entirely. In the meantime, make sure you save inside of buildings in Lumiose.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 18, 2013, 08:39:39 pm
I tried out the Wonder Trade and I got a Lv. 40 or so German Litwick with a Hasty Nature for a Binacle with Sniper and Pokerus. I think a Hasty Nature raises Speed but I forgot what it lowers.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 18, 2013, 08:43:06 pm
Defense. :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 19, 2013, 12:21:10 am
0516 - 7483 - 3564
Expect me to be online when you're all offline :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 19, 2013, 06:34:39 am
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Mothers can now pass egg moves. (No more illegal egg move combinations!) Fathers can only pass hidden abilities if the mother belongs to the same evolutionary line as the father, or if the mother is Ditto Destiny Knot now guarantees that at least 5 IVs will be passed down from both parents.
This is amazing stuff, can't wait for the new details before importing previous gens.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 20, 2013, 11:01:36 pm
I've just finished the Looker sidequest. It's sad that this is more engaging than the main story. Quite a bittersweet ending.
Also that certain woman who I won't spoil is a downright evil bitch. She even casually tells the player how much she wants to kill him or that she wants Xerosic killed. She makes Giovanni look like nothing more than a bully.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 20, 2013, 11:47:15 pm
@Orochi Gill: I added you on 3DS please add me back. :V
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 21, 2013, 01:02:14 am
Same here. Add me Gill.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 21, 2013, 06:11:30 am
So Serebii just put together a list of Pokemon that had their base stats changed:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Flamme on October 21, 2013, 06:44:32 am
[avatar]http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q483/ItsMeDonte758/2fffa701-770f-4ac8-9c7d-934f0fe61541_zps172b38a8.jpg?t=1382330278[/avatar] Added Girard, Some Guy, GarchompMatt, 1Ultima, XAN, TheAnswer, Kirishima, Ricepigeon, 1st Lt. Ding, Orochi Gill, and MgBenz. Whoever I missed I'll add later. That was way too many to do at once without a stylus lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 21, 2013, 10:35:27 am
EDIT: Not sure if it was like this before, but Synchronizing natures now works on stationary Pokemon.
It's been that way from at least Gen IV. Something tells me it was introduced in Emerald, but I'm not 100% certain on that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 21, 2013, 07:16:00 pm
I know Synchronize worked on ordinary wild Pokemon since Emerald, but iirc it didn't work on stationary Pokemon like Kyogre or Mewtwo unless I'm mistaken. Havent bothered to Synchronize natures since forever.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on October 21, 2013, 08:01:20 pm
Just got the game over the weekend. I haven't had much time to play with it (I just beat the first gym and now got my charmander) but here's my code anyway: 3136-7086-1804
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 21, 2013, 08:32:38 pm
I'm hearing word that Defog now removes entry hazards on the user's side of the field. Someone care to verify this?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 21, 2013, 08:50:29 pm
Well they certainly are nerfing hazards like Hell. So through most of the postgame I'm finding more Pokemon to train through means of Serena, Inverse Battles (I wish they expanded more on this, it's really fun.), restaurants in Lumiose City and of course, the Elite Four. Also I added Flamme and Arpa.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 21, 2013, 09:35:44 pm
Just to satisfy my curiousity I checked the smogon forums as well as a friend of mine to test and I can pretty much confirm that Defog now removes entry hazards on both sides of the field now... in addition to the evasion drop.
So yeah, while Stealth Rock itself hasn't been nerfed, given Defog's wide distribution in Gen 4, this could very well be the nerf that we've been waiting for, assuming that your team doesn't rely on entry hazards as well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 21, 2013, 10:17:37 pm
Well that's good to know. I haven't caught a good hazard setup Poke yet (If I can, Forretress). Also...
Maverick you're safari is awesome. It has Larvesta in it! :D
Btw can anyone tell what's in mine?
Give me his friend code. I need Larvesta too. And you have Farfetche'd, Hootoot and Tropius in your Friend Safari.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on October 22, 2013, 03:19:06 am
I thought I did already, can o_o
I'll probably add you and Rice by tomorrow. I have a nearly 70 people friendlist atm; I got a lot of folks from GameFAQs and Vinesauce too so I got lazy when it came to adding people.
I also steamrolled the third gym leader hard today. Good ol'e delphox and talonflame :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 22, 2013, 06:43:11 am
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Also soft resetting the first Egg produced when a Pokemon is deposited into the daycare no longer works.
Since the new breeding mechanics make obtaining the perfect set more easier than ever, it's worth the loss. RNG breeding is a thing of a past now.
As for base stats changes, going to a while to get use to since their previous stats are outdated. Odd that Azumarill gets a Sp.Att boost when no one goes for Special moves on it.
So I have about 62+ hours of game time, only 2 badges, half my Kalos Dex completed, and stored 13+ in-game mons for playthrough due to GTS grinding and breeding buffs, all during and after Week 1. Gonna take a while.....
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Luis Alejandro on October 22, 2013, 07:53:59 am
So no more new mega evolutions? Why they stop
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 22, 2013, 08:38:15 am
Maverick you're safari is awesome. It has Larvesta in it! :D
Btw can anyone tell what's in mine?
Give me his friend code. I need Larvesta too. And you have Farfetche'd, Hootoot and Tropius in your Friend Safari.
Well that certainly sucks monkeyballs. :(
Also I was wrong. The Maverick I have on my friends list is some other guy I'm friends with from another board. You can still use his friend code for safari though. It doesn't really matter if someone adds you back.
0559-6797-7930
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 22, 2013, 03:03:48 pm
Some more base stat buffs: (http://serebii.net/xy/updatedstats.shtml)
Vileplume: Sp.Atk increased (100 -> 110)
Victreebel: Sp.Def increased (60 -> 70)
Stoutland: Attack increased (100 -> 110)
Unfezant: Attack increased (105 -> 115)
Seismitoad: Attack increased (85 -> 95)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 22, 2013, 10:31:21 pm
Apparently serebii leaked three event Pokemon before taking them down.
(http://i.imgur.com/VbAPnim.jpg)
Their names have been in those rumored lists before.
I know Synchronize worked on ordinary wild Pokemon since Emerald, but iirc it didn't work on stationary Pokemon like Kyogre or Mewtwo unless I'm mistaken. Havent bothered to Synchronize natures since forever.
I know. That's what I was saying. However, I do believe it was introduced for stationary Pokémon in Diamond and Pearl; my hypothesis about it being from Emerald was indeed wrong.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on October 22, 2013, 11:03:52 pm
So, I'm thinking of picking Pokemon Y up next Wednesday.
Is it worth it?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 22, 2013, 11:12:14 pm
Yes. So very much so
Also leaked from Serebii: (http://i.imgur.com/apqQmt2.png) If these turn out to be true, than Serebii is so screwed if Nintendo finds out that he leaked them
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 23, 2013, 04:24:36 am
So we finally get a Water/Fire type.
Oh and because I forgot to earlier, added Arpa and Benz.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on October 23, 2013, 04:42:51 am
With how disappointingly easy Black/White 2 was, I wasn't too sure about X & Y, My Brother says it's kinda easy though. I dunno, I might. Just depends on how much I get paid.
When Gen IV and V event legends were leaked by Serebii, Nintendo barely did anything.
Two days after Gen 5 was first released in Japan, Nintendo went at Serebii & Pokebeach's throats for posting info about the games, iirc. Didn't happen with Black 2 & White 2 but still...
Now that I've actually progressed further through the game to get myself a Tyrunt with Stealth Rock I can personally confirm that the rumors about Stealth Rock disappearing if the user faints is false. Same for the 3 turns/hits rumor.
Defog, however, DOES remove SR from both sides of the field. Tested against wild Ducklett just to be sure.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 23, 2013, 11:02:47 pm
Added everyone from page 55 onwards.
Just in case:
0516 - 7483 - 3564
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on October 24, 2013, 04:33:54 am
So I don't have the games yet, but I get paid tonight at midnight, and I reserve my position to post a friend code should anyone want another shot at the Friend Park (?) And also, I hear this game is incredibly easy to build up to competitive in. Is this true? I'm worried that the competitive scene will be flooded with even more casuals. Not trying to sound like an ass, but eh
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 24, 2013, 05:44:53 am
Yep, EV training, breeding, set IVs, all of this are a breeze if you know what you're doing. But EV training mini games are available at the very start so its fast to get a competitive ready Pokemon from the get-go.
And the fact that Speed Boost Blaziken is almost used by EVERY casual, combined with said training, you can even curbstomp the entire story run.
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Two days after Gen 5 was first released in Japan, Nintendo went at Serebii & Pokebeach's throats for posting info about the games, iirc. Didn't happen with Black 2 & White 2 but still...
Ouch. I forget about that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on October 24, 2013, 06:26:50 am
With how disappointingly easy Black/White 2 was, I wasn't too sure about X & Y, My Brother says it's kinda easy though. I dunno, I might. Just depends on how much I get paid.
Offtopic: Oh shit, a villager I actually have in that sig I see :V
Chrissy or Genji? >:U
It feels a bit easier than gen 1, but gen 1's strongest trainers had levels in the low to mid 60s at best. Gym 4 is nearly in the 40s in this one. Also Chrissy :V
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 24, 2013, 03:36:42 pm
It feels a bit easier than gen 1, but gen 1's strongest trainers had levels in the low to mid 60s at best. Gym 4 is nearly in the 40s in this one. Also Chrissy :V
To be fair, Gen 6 has that giant gap in between the first and second badges, which gave you plenty of ample opportunity to level up. Combine that with the buffed Exp AllShare, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone else besides me managed to get their entire party up to level 30 by the time they reach Grant.
Oh and unless you were playing Yellow, all the Gen 1 trainers used purely level-up moves, including the champion and elite 4 (outside the rare exception of a few gym leaders actually using their respective TMs or Lance using his gamesharked Barrier Dragonite).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 24, 2013, 09:32:17 pm
Breeding for a specific nature is tedious. I'm at least glad I got the right nature for my Aron (and gladder I got it in the first place from Wonder Trade, since I have Y).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 25, 2013, 12:14:20 am
Maybe this can help you. http://nuggetbridge.com/breeding/breeding-perfect-pokemon-x-y/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 25, 2013, 12:33:41 am
Seems there is more to breeding than I thought...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 25, 2013, 12:45:41 am
Just found someone who has a Ditto Friend Safari.
Just a matter of time now >:3
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 25, 2013, 05:23:08 am
The more I fiddle around at the Daycare, the more I learn about IV spreads with limited Dittos. This experiment got me a flawless Modest Amaura all battle-ready to boot.
And I'm nowhere near half the story run and already I'm meeting Gym Leaders at the Cheateau. All of this with Two badges. I'm in no rush to meet post-game.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 25, 2013, 03:31:41 pm
Patch 1.1 has been released. It fixes the infamous Lumiose City bug. Yes, that one. The only one :P
Also, I caught a shiny Lillipup in 1Ultima's Friend Safari! Cheers, mate (seriously, you can get Lillipup, Audino and Chansey in his)!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 25, 2013, 05:07:03 pm
It also fixes a bug on the GTS where trades wouldn't work if you filtered the results (via the magnifying glass symbol at the bottom screen while looking for trades)
And you're welcome for the shiny. It seems like the shiny rate has been ramped up for this game considering the Pokeradar, chain fishing, horde battles and Masuda methods seem to be more successful compared to previous entries.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 25, 2013, 05:28:14 pm
If you've checked, what's the third Pokémon in my Friend Safari? I already know it's Fire-type with Pansear and Slugma.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 25, 2013, 05:52:02 pm
The last one is Braixen. So I'm going to be using your Friend Safari a lot
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 25, 2013, 05:57:26 pm
That's something good, I guess :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 25, 2013, 08:38:37 pm
If you've checked, what's the third Pokémon in my Friend Safari? I already know it's Fire-type with Pansear and Slugma.
That's kinda creepy considering Arpa has those two in his Friend Safari at the moment.
BTW Apparently Chesnaught can learn Pain Split through level up. I kinda need some suggestions to make this of good use.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 25, 2013, 10:19:02 pm
Improbable, but if you should happen to encounter someone on GTS offering level 1 Rotoms in return for level 30 Dittos with the message "Have my baby.", that's me :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on October 26, 2013, 12:39:11 am
Since everyone here on the MFG is currently exchanging Friend Codes, here is mine:
4038-7288-7058
I'll be registering the friend codes that I see here on the MFG, so get ready.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 26, 2013, 12:52:16 am
BTW Apparently Chesnaught can learn Pain Split through level up. I kinda need some suggestions to make this of good use.
It has too much weaknesses and not good Sp.Def to use Pain Split at times. Pokemon like Evolite Dusclops' bulk, Gengar's speed, and such are excellent users. You're better off sticking with Spiky Shield.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 26, 2013, 01:20:49 am
Yeah that might be better.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on October 26, 2013, 03:37:12 am
Just hatched a shiny Swirlix without even using masada method. I feel lucky.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: First Lt. Ding on October 26, 2013, 07:01:43 pm
Serebii updated the Friend Safari page with all the available Pokemon in it. (http://www.serebii.net/xy/friendsafari.shtml) @Mgbenz: You're gonna have to send the Maverick guy my Friend Code. His name does not show up in the Friend Safari.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 26, 2013, 07:39:30 pm
I'll try contacting him. It'll be a bit hard since I met him on an anon board and he's rarely around when I'm playing the game.
Edit: Btw Ricepigeon, DJ_HANNIBALROYCE and Some Guy haven't added me yet. :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 26, 2013, 09:51:32 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 27, 2013, 05:07:01 am
Finally I'm half-way in the play through.
Luminose City's full area gave me a headache. So much exploring for the sake of finding secret stuff, and I believe I practically got the bulk of the map to memory. Had no idea clothing was expensive. More grinding at the Cheateau.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jexsam on October 27, 2013, 07:45:03 am
Either I wasn't paying attention or this game suddenly gets story moving after the seventh badge. It's like all of the sudden I go from nothing to
Spoiler: I guess I should spoiler this even though the game is piss-easy?(click to see content)
suddenly infiltrating not one, but two Flare bases and getting all this revelation about a guy I saw once and had no real questions about and all of the sudden Geosenge is going One Winged Angel on me and jesus christ where was all this during the previous 30 hours I've sunk into this game?
That said while at first I thought Lysandre was lame he really does seem to have a little depth now. He's not just one-note evil like Ghetsis was (though Ghetsis was still a better villain overall). Yet he still manages to be no more notable than Team Aqua/Magma/Galaxy's respective leaders.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 27, 2013, 01:21:40 pm
Missingno., what are you doing? Missingno., STAHP! (http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/660/2855/original.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 27, 2013, 06:14:19 pm
Litleo's trying out its new Halloween costume obviously.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on October 27, 2013, 08:59:26 pm
Looks more like one of those really itchy woolen sweater to me :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Garaliru on October 28, 2013, 01:59:39 pm
The people at Pokécheck are slowly learning how to hack X and Y. (http://projectpokemon.org/forums/showthread.php?33024-Pkx-The-New-Pokemon-Format-For-Gen-6&p=174103#post174103) Have fun, you guys.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on October 28, 2013, 02:29:50 pm
They know that hacked Pokemon could get you into trouble with Nintendo, right?
Why are people trying to get hacked Pokemon? Honest work's too hard for them?
And do they know that Nintendo can just simply patch the system to remove such exploitable holes?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 28, 2013, 03:02:08 pm
As long as people are using this to get "legal" pokemon (meaning pokemon with stats, moves, IVs, etc that can otherwise be obtained in-game through legitimate means and not stupid shit like lvl 1 Wonder Guard Reshiram with Sacred Fire, max IVs, and 255 EVs in all 6 stats) then I see no problem with this.
They know that hacked Pokemon could get you into trouble with Nintendo, right?
People have been doing it since Gen 4, and what trouble are you talking about exactly? The only thing I ever heard of Nintendo doing regarding hacked Pokemon was removing an iphone app that people were charging money for anyway.
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Why are people trying to get hacked Pokemon? Honest work's too hard for them?
You ever try breeding a perfect IV Pokemon with the desired nature in Gen 4/5? If you did then you'd know how long it takes. Thankfully, Gen 6 makes this process MUCH easier and possible within a reasonable time frame, rendering hacking for perfect Pokemon unnecessary. The only exception to this, of course, would be legendaries and other unbreedable Pokemon (especially if you have a Latias from Sapphire or Latios from Ruby, you may as well dump those. Anyone who knows about IVs should know the exact reason why I say this).
Posted: October 28, 2013, 03:09:28 pm In other news, remember "Pikablu" from the pre-Gen II days? Looks like he might finally become canon (yes I'm aware Pikablu ended up becoming Marril but still):
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Source: http://serebii.net/index2.shtml
Within the programme on the Japanese channel NHK, called The Professionals, in a special episode focusing on The Pokémon Company CEO Tsunekaz Ishihara, a new game was showcased. They first showcased some images of a beta version of a sequel to Pokémon Trozei. In this, they showed a meeting discussing the various issues with the 3DS notably the top and bottom screen being different sizes, and the intent for it to be a download title. It's currently unclear on the status of this game. Still more to come so keep checking back Edit 33: They're working on a detective game featuring Pikachu as a partner. This game has an alleged development cycle of 2 years, with release expected in 2015. it's unclear when it began. A rare Pikachu is said to be the enemy within this game but they can't see people liking it. The game is to feature a special Blue Pikachu, which talks. The Pikachu is being controlled via motion capture and facial recognition
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on October 28, 2013, 04:10:27 pm
Hacked pokemon also assist in discovering the game's hidden mechanics sometimes, like, you can use them for experiments and what not lol.
Also, could someone explain how Mega Evolutions work in battle? Serebii's description confuses me :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 28, 2013, 04:38:48 pm
Basically you equip your Pokémon with the corresponding Mega Stone (Lucationite for Lucario, Blazikenite for Blaziken etc), then when you get into a battle, when you hit fight they're should be a button saying Mega Evolution. Press it then select a move and your Pokémon will Mega Evolve and use the move. It stays in its Mega evo for the whole fight, even if you switch out but not if it faints. Mega evos can give bonuses to the Pokémon such as a change of type, boosted stats or a change of ability and in some cases all three. Hope that helped.
Why are people trying to get hacked Pokemon? Honest work's too hard for them?
Just because you enjoy biking up and down Route 7 waiting for your egg to hatch to see whether it has 5IVs in the stats you want them in, as well as the right nature, and the right ability doesn’t mean everyone does. Also some people hack to fill the Pokedex (there still isn't a legit way to catch a Mew to my knowledge).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on October 28, 2013, 04:42:45 pm
Yeah sometimes hacking is the only way to finish the game since not everyone has Wifi.
thanks heaps bro, it makes sense now :) It reminds me of that super mode in Digimon Battle Spirit 1 & 2 lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on October 28, 2013, 05:02:01 pm
(there still isn't a legit way to catch a Mew to my knowledge).
Mew from Japanese Emerald (since japan still had the e-reader after it flopped here in the states) ported over to Gen 4 & 5, traded internationally, and then (starting December) to Gen 6, afaik.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 28, 2013, 05:06:41 pm
Unless the 3DS itself is hacked then the game is still unhackable. All they're doing is datamining.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on October 28, 2013, 05:35:07 pm
If they DO manage to crack the 3DS, we can finally get some emulators.
Is it allowed to speak of emulators here? I'll modify post if so.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 28, 2013, 05:39:13 pm
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Also some people hack to fill the Pokedex (there still isn't a legit way to catch a Mew to my knowledge).
And said hack got them banned from Global Link in Gen V such as impossible access to Dream World. More or less the same might happen here if hacking for Pokedex completion is possible.
Not like it matters because those scrubs will just drop the game anyways after showing off their Ability-less Shiny Zoroark with all 5th Gen Signature moves. 'sides, just download from Pokecheck if they're that desperate.
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Yeah sometimes hacking is the only way to finish the game since not everyone has Wifi.
I don't understand what you mean. By "finish the game" do you mean the Pokedex or the playthrough, because you don't need Wi-Fi to finish XY given the fact it's almost easy to level up and get good stats with an available from the start mini-game to boost said stats.
Fun fact. Audino farming returns in the Battle Chateau. As you reach enough ranks, eventually female trainers in special attires will challenge you with 2 Lv.35 Audinos or 3 Lv.45 Audinos for major level grinding. And Lucky Egg once again is available midpoint.
Unless someone's seriously devoted into Pokemon or a big fan, then Pokedex completion is optional and not needed.
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Just because you enjoy biking up and down Route 7 waiting for your egg to hatch to see whether it has 5IVs in the stats you want them in, as well as the right nature, and the right ability doesn’t mean everyone does.
Which is why you have people like me that farm flawless mons for all to share :haw:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 28, 2013, 06:59:19 pm
Not like it matters because those scrubs will just drop the game anyways after showing off their Ability-less Shiny Zoroark with all 5th Gen Signature moves. 'sides, just download from Pokecheck if they're that desperate.
Yeah that's what I meant by Pokedex filling. And plus you can make a "legit" Pokémon using the 3rd party software if you know what you're doing. If you are stupid enough to show off a blatantly hacked Pokémon, then you deserve everything that's coming imo.
Also said "legit" Pokémon will be everywhere come December. Unless Gamefreak really upped their game with checking the legitimately of Pokemon. And even then...
In all honesty, I just want to know what they find when they data mine. I don't hack at all (apart from Gen 4. Fucking Azure flute) but I can see why others do.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on October 28, 2013, 07:34:39 pm
I just hack for the events mang.
Can't get them events without WiFi or live in that specific region :bigcry:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on October 29, 2013, 04:28:13 am
Yeah sometimes hacking is the only way to finish the game since not everyone has Wifi.
W8..... Since when are you are required to have wi-fi to finish a game? That seems sort of illogical. I mean it would be like saying buying a PC game, only to find out it won't work on your computer.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on October 29, 2013, 04:31:09 am
He meant that certain items and pokemon require Wi-fi events to obtain.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 29, 2013, 04:46:41 am
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Also said "legit" Pokémon will be everywhere come December. Unless Gamefreak really upped their game with checking the legitimately of Pokemon. And even then...
Would be hilarious if the save data gets locked after importing or creating your Hackmon.
Think of the children =[
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on October 29, 2013, 12:12:39 pm
They could always reset the stats whenever a Pokemon is transferred. It won't remove perfect IVs but it'll discourage lazy hackers.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on October 29, 2013, 03:53:03 pm
Also said "legit" Pokémon will be everywhere come December. Unless Gamefreak really upped their game with checking the legitimately of Pokemon. And even then...
Would be hilarious if the save data gets locked after importing or creating your Hackmon.
Think of the children =[
Don't jinx it man. They might actually do that :P
If the pokemon's PID is fine and their EV's are within the limit, game freak won't bug us right?
Yeah sometimes hacking is the only way to finish the game since not everyone has Wifi.
W8..... Since when are you are required to have wi-fi to finish a game? That seems sort of illogical. I mean it would be like saying buying a PC game, only to find out it won't work on your computer.
I phrased that incorrectly, sorry :P
I meant wifi events where you get certain items and pokemon. Like the Liberty pass event for example. I could get that until I had to hack into my game and put in the mystery gift itself.
He meant that certain items and pokemon require Wi-fi events to obtain.
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 29, 2013, 11:09:00 pm
http://espurr.net/ (http://espurr.net/)
Heh.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on October 30, 2013, 02:02:40 am
It pretty much killed itself even more with the "Lavender town theme lol oh so scary"
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on October 30, 2013, 11:45:49 am
I thought it was funny :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 31, 2013, 04:11:16 am
Complete list of move changes including abilities. Study them carefully.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Acid Armor = 40 PP -> 20 PP Air Cutter = 55 power -> 60 power Air Slash = 20 PP -> 15 PP Assurance = 50 power -> 60 power Aura Sphere = 90 power -> 80 power Barrier = 30 PP -> 20 PP Blizzard = 120 power -> 110 power Bubble = 20 power -> 40 power Charm = Normal-type -> Fairy-type Chatter = (No longer adjusted by recording but still cannot be affected by Sketch) (Kiri's edit) Covet = 40 PP -> 25 PP Crabhammer = 90 power -> 100 power Draco Meteor = 140 power -> 130 power Dragon Pulse = 90 power -> 85 power Dragon Rush = No power/accuracy increase -> Power doubles and never misses if the opponent has used Minimize Energy Ball = 80 power -> 90 power Extrasensory = 30 PP -> 20 PP Fire Blast = 120 power -> 110 power Fire Pledge = 50 power -> 80 power Flamethrower = 95 power -> 90 power Follow Me = +3 priority -> +2 priority Frost Breath = 40 power -> 60 power Fury Cutter = 20 power -> 40 power Future Sight = 100 power -> 120 power Glare = 90 accuracy -> 100 accuracy Grass Pledge = 50 power -> 80 power Gunk Shot = 70 accuracy -> 80 accuracy Heat Power = 100 power -> 95 power Hex = 50 power -> 65 power Hidden Power = Power changes depending on a formula -> Fixed at 60 power Hurricane = 120 power -> 110 power Hydro Pump = 120 power -> 110 power Ice Beam = 95 power -> 90 power Incinerate = 30 power -> 60 power Knock Off = 20 power with no power increase -> 65 power with 1.5x if the opponent has a hold item Leaf Storm = 140 power -> 130 power Lick = 20 power -> 30 power Low Sweep = 60 power -> 65 power Magic Room = -7 priority -> 0 priority Meteor Mash = 100 power and 85 accuracy -> 90 power and 90 accuracy Minimize = 20 PP and take double damage from Stomp and Steamroller -> 10 PP and take double damage from Stomp, Dragon Rush, Steamroller, Flying Press, and Phantom Force Moonlight = Normal-type -> Fairy-type Mud Sport = Lasts until you switch out -> Lasts five turns Muddy Water = 95 power -> 90 power Nature Power = Turns into Earthquake in multiplayer -> Turns into Tri-Attack in multiplayer, but if Misty Terrain is active, turns into Moonblast, if Grassy Terrain is active, turns into Energy Ball, and if Electric Terrain is active, turns into Thunderbolt. Overheat = 140 power -> 130 power Pin Missile = 14 power and 85 accuracy -> 25 power and 95 accuracy Poison Gas = 80 accuracy -> 90 accuracy Power Gem = 70 power -> 80 power Rage Powder = +3 priority -> +2 priority Roar = 100 accuracy -> never misses Rock Tomb = 50 power and 80 accuracy -> 60 power and 95 accuracy Secret Power = 30% chance of paralysis in multiplayer -> 30% chance of paralysis in multiplayer, but if Misty Terrain is active, 30% chance of lowering Special Attack 1 stage instead, if Grassy Terrain is active, 30% chance of sleep instead, and if Electric Terrain is active, 30% chance of paralysis. Skull Bash = 100 power and 15 PP -> 130 power and 10 PP SmellingSalt = 60 power -> 70 power Smog = 20 power -> 30 power Snore = 40 power -> 50 power Steamroller = Power doubles if the opponent has used Minimize -> Power doubles and never misses if the opponent has used Minimize Stomp = Power doubles if the opponent has used Minimize -> Power doubles and never misses if the opponent has used Minimize Storm Throw = 40 power -> 60 power String Shot = Lowers speed 1 stage -> Lowers speed 2 stages Struggle Bug = 30 power -> 50 power Surf = 95 power -> 90 power Sweet Kiss = Normal-type -> Fairy-type Sweet Scent = Lowers evasion 1 stage -> Lowers evasion 2 stages Swords Dance = 30 PP -> 20 PP Synchronoise = 70 power and 15 PP -> 120 power and 10 PP Thief = 40 power -> 60 power Thunder = 120 power -> 110 power Thunderbolt = 95 power -> 90 power Toxic = 90 accuracy -> 90 accuracy, except when used by a Poison-type, in which case, never misses, even when the opponent is using Dig, Fly, etc. Vine Whip = 35 power and 15 PP -> 45 power and 25 PP Wake-Up Slap = 60 power -> 70 power Water Pledge = 50 power -> 80 power Water Sport = Lasts until you switch out -> Lasts five turns Whirlwind = 100 accuracy -> never misses Will-O-Wisp = 75 accuracy -> 85 accuracy Wonder Room = -7 priority -> 0 priority
Sound Moves = Ignore Substitute Powder Moves = Doesn't affect Grass-types or Pokémon with Overcoat as an ability (Spore, Powder, Stun Spore, Sleep Powder, Cotton Spore, Poison Powder) Paralyzing Moves = Doesn't affect Electric-types
Drizzle = Now lasts five turns, rather than the whole battle Drought = Now lasts five turns, rather than the whole battle Frisk = In a Double Battle, now identifies both of the opponents's held items, rather than just one Infiltrator = Now ignores Substitute Oblivious = Now makes the Pokémon immune to the move Taunt Overcoat = Now makes you immune to Powder Moves Keen Eye = Now ignores the opponent's evasion boosts Sand Stream = Now lasts five turns, rather than the whole battle Sniper = As critical hits now do 1.5x instead of 2x, Sniper makes critical hits do 2.25x, rather than 3x Snow Warning = Now lasts five turns, rather than the whole battle
Full credit to GoldenSlash of Smogon (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/pok%C3%A9mon-battle-mechanics-research.3489239/page-31#post-4925870)
Also word is going on that Gems excluding Normal are potentially gone from this game. I keep hearing that it's still available by Rock Smash with a very low success rate.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on October 31, 2013, 03:51:36 pm
I can't believe how fuckin' easily I caught xerneas last night. I had delphox use psychic once which brought it down to low yellow health, and one ultra ball caught it. It's almost like it was scripted....
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 31, 2013, 04:05:51 pm
Quick balls seem to be really effective this gen Also. Mewtwo. One Ultra ball. Get on my level.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Prototype God on October 31, 2013, 04:12:56 pm
I find Ultra ballz useless compared to regular ol pokeballs or quickballs, its so easy catching most pokemon. I used just a single repeat ball on a poor paralyzed mewtwo and i caught him. Well on my little bro's file because he had such a hard time. When i caught Mewtwo on my file, all i was doing was throwing dem OP Quickballs. For some reason, i had a hard time catching Xerneas tho. The bastard was paralyzed and everything.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on October 31, 2013, 04:19:42 pm
I pretty much conditioned my xerneas into a killing machine after, with it now having dazzling gleam/geomancy/moonblast/thunder. I made my greninja even more OP too now that it has blizzard/surf/water shuriken/hydro pump.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 31, 2013, 10:41:18 pm
It would seem XY hackmons are slowly becoming a reality.
A colleague of mine that is into the competitive scene traded a Pokemon for one that is flawless IV bred. He gave me a Lv.1 Fennekin that may seem harmless but has the JPN tag on its status. He owns an American copy and this one was recently bred. Only way a JPN Pokemon can remove the kanji name is through evolution but this one kept its English name and it all matches his original ID.
Either I might be missing something, or this is the result of "injecting" making it seem like a Pokemon came from another region, turn into a shiny, etc. But it's not yet possible to fully create a hackmon let alone alter its stats and IVs, or so I've seen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on October 31, 2013, 10:47:50 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Luis Alejandro on October 31, 2013, 10:51:46 pm
the 3 new legendaries? Has the game been hacked?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on October 31, 2013, 10:53:50 pm
According to Kirishima yes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on October 31, 2013, 11:01:11 pm
So this would mean the ice wolf is probably real as well wouldn't it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on October 31, 2013, 11:42:50 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Same guy has added a new photo of a wild Mew. Evil Chibi Buddha and the gang are real.
Only a matter of time.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: c001357 on November 01, 2013, 04:06:13 am
http://pokejungle.net/2013/10/31/rumour-legends-leaked-by-hacking/ (http://pokejungle.net/2013/10/31/rumour-legends-leaked-by-hacking/) fire/water is the best typing ever
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 01, 2013, 04:45:28 am
Entei gets Sacred Fire.
Awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Rajaa on November 01, 2013, 09:34:38 am
My Friend Code: 3067-5620-2917
I'm a n00b.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 01, 2013, 11:11:05 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://smealum.net/megalatios.png)
(http://smealum.net/megalatias.png)
Mega Latios/Latias is real and their Mega stones aren't accessible in game. Rather expected due to the trademark done many weeks ago. Mega Jynx is the only one left from the trademark list unless Gamefreak added all stones.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Long John Killer on November 01, 2013, 12:41:10 pm
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Why is Latios/as now a twinjet airliner?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 01, 2013, 01:10:29 pm
The Eon Pokémon are based on jet planes after all :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Long John Killer on November 01, 2013, 01:14:53 pm
Were they? Didn't notice, just thought they were...well, psychic misshapen dragons.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 01, 2013, 02:45:47 pm
"Latios appears to be a cross between a jet plane and a dragon." -Bulbapedia
Yeah. Also, other than eye colour and possibly size, is there anything visually different between them?
Added Rajaa.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 01, 2013, 04:04:16 pm
So due to system transfer, I have a new friend code Can everyone who added me before please add this new one: 1891 1152 0901 Thanks
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 02, 2013, 12:12:19 am
Your signature is incorrect.
1892 should be 1891.
And your new field is Bug :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 02, 2013, 12:23:27 am
What is my field?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 02, 2013, 12:52:43 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 02, 2013, 12:58:57 am
Added Ultima and Rajaa.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 02, 2013, 04:50:04 am
Spoiler: regarding Megas and event legends(click to see content)
Leaker claims Mega Lati@s are the only hidden Mega formes besides Blaziken for the time being. Even though Jynx is the last remaining Pokemon to speculate on having a Mega, details are unknown at this time.
And trying to hack a Pokemon Dex entry beyond Hoopa results in a bad egg. So no ice wolf, for now.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Duos on November 02, 2013, 04:54:48 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Ice wolf was a mistranslation of Burigaron, Chesnaught's Japanese name. People expected blizzard (buri) and wolf (garou).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 02, 2013, 12:46:50 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 02, 2013, 02:44:17 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
So the guy who found the Mega Latis and the event Pokémon found some rather interesting stuff (http://i1.wp.com/pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/vivillon-special-1.png) (http://i0.wp.com/pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/vivillon-special-2.png) (http://i0.wp.com/pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/1383297774657.png) Yes that's AZ's Florette.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 02, 2013, 04:39:03 pm
I saw those yesterday.
Why'd I never post 'em up? :/
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Everything so far, plus Arceus: (http://neuropod.net/imagehost/uploads/fb683526a0e82111f18cdd114fcb6728.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 02, 2013, 07:07:55 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 02, 2013, 08:59:53 pm
Yup, I know I have Pansear, Slugma and Braixen.
You are Dragon (yay!) with Gabite (further yay!), Noibat and something else.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 02, 2013, 10:46:47 pm
I don't have Braixen :S
Anyways my third would have to be Drudiggon or Sluggoo
Edit: Fuck I want to be friends with myself, fucking 2 31 IV gabites.
Edit: "ZYGARDE USED CAMOFLAUGE" *Proceeds to oneshot me* Posted: November 03, 2013, 05:57:49 am Got Tyrannitite, anyone willign to trade for aggronite?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on November 03, 2013, 06:24:01 am
I finally got this game. Loving it so far.
Also I happened to get a very fitting Bulbasaur from the professor for El Dia De Los Muertos.
(http://www.imgur.com/RI8oLjF.jpeg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: xPreatorianx1 on November 03, 2013, 09:13:19 am
Well when I get my 3DS on the 6th as well as Pokemon X, I'll share my friend code, etc after I get used to the system. Buddy of mine bought it for me for my b-day. So just waiting on it to arrive.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 03, 2013, 01:50:49 pm
I do not see information on how to get them in the main games themselves. So I am assuming Pokemon distribution?
Did you read the previous posts? If you did, you would have seen that the person who took those screenshots hacked them into the game. Theres currently no way to get Latios/as until December when Pokebank opens up. Then you can hello to Stealth Rock's widespread distribution again for the 3rd gen in a row.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on November 03, 2013, 07:24:46 pm
Ehhh, not too worried about Stealth Rock. The new mechanics mean that the frail Suicide Lead Stealth Rock setter is no longer viable, and you will have to think twice even if you send out a bulky Stealth Rock setter to tank a hit.
Although DISREGARD THAT I do wish SR got more of a nerf.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 03, 2013, 07:25:27 pm
There's always the buffed Defog for that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Girard on November 04, 2013, 12:17:28 am
Ice wolf was a mistranslation of Burigaron, Chesnaught's Japanese name. People expected blizzard (buri) and wolf (garou).
I don't wanna be a Pokemon master anymore. Also Added Rajaa and Pikachu Guy
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 04, 2013, 03:56:41 am
Added Rajaa, Ultima (again), and pikachu guy
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Rajaa on November 04, 2013, 08:10:15 am
Many of you savages haven't added me yet!
*disappears for a week*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hephaistos31 on November 04, 2013, 04:21:29 pm
Hephaistos31: In Game Name: DRAGUNOF Friend code: 2423-3315-2170
Add me, men! ;) EDIT: I added everyone I saw here. Go check to your account! ;)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 05, 2013, 01:32:54 am
I went and bought Y as well because there's stuff on there I want. Unrelated: (http://25.media.tumblr.com/3a087b34dcec5425523b6d2d97b98d00/tumblr_mvr3opGrrt1r6h8m0o1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on November 05, 2013, 07:08:33 am
LET'S SHIT
0302-0754-5245
(Still only have 1 gym badge though so don't expect anything magical)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 05, 2013, 07:19:43 am
Added ya back, Jango. Mind hitting me up when you're farther in? I'd like a match or two.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: xPreatorianx1 on November 05, 2013, 07:58:14 am
Here's my friend code : 5386-8602-7896 Ingame name should be : Preatorian or xPreatorianx.
Also - I really need to remember the login details of my original account so I can get it deleted lol. (Mugenguild account that is.)
EDIT: Also I added Rajaa, 1Ultima, Xan, Hephaistos31, and Imposter Owen Wilson so far.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hephaistos31 on November 05, 2013, 08:58:16 am
Thx Rajaa and C.A.N. I'm building good pokemon wih EV, IV for the very first time... The Egg part is a fucking nightmare. Ah ah! :D But.. I'm pretty lucky with 2 pokemon that are... Pretty good, cool and bad ass. :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 05, 2013, 11:54:55 am
So I played Soulsilver again for the last week. It reminded me how long it takes to train Pokemon without Audino farming :qq:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 05, 2013, 12:03:55 pm
Blessed be the Audinos Also I added everyone who posted their friend code In this thread. Again (stupid system transfer)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 05, 2013, 04:22:53 pm
Wouldn't it be easier for y'all if somebody just wrote all the codes down into one place where everybody could find them?
Audino's are God's way of sparing us hours of level grinding with lvl 20 geodudes :qq:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 05, 2013, 06:06:53 pm
Added all the people that posted their FCs up. Still waiting on a few people that I added earlier this month :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on November 06, 2013, 03:47:40 am
Wouldn't it be easier for y'all if somebody just wrote all the codes down into one place where everybody could find them?
Yeah. I agree with this honestly.
Most of the FCs have been buried by other posts. And lets be honest... Not everyone has time to look through all these posts.
Maybe a 3DS Friend Code Database would work? Another forum I go to did this type of topic too.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 06, 2013, 03:55:12 am
Close enough. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/3ds-friend-codes-154824.new.html#new)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Rajaa on November 07, 2013, 05:08:12 am
I need someone with a Ditto in their Friend Safari! Posted: November 07, 2013, 05:08:45 am By the way, who's in my Safari?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 07, 2013, 03:54:00 pm
You guys may want to reconsider using Wonder Trade for about 6 months or so, I dunno. (http://www.kpopstarz.com/articles/47869/20131104/pokemon-x-and-y-glitch.htm)
Though, this issue's been known for a while due to an actual bug that was mostly patched in 1.1, but due to Hackmons becoming a reality following "injecting" and the leaked events, and the fact Wonder Trade can allow such to be passed......
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Bastard Walt on November 07, 2013, 03:56:18 pm
Talk about leaving it to the fans to ruin a game :megaeyes:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 07, 2013, 03:58:14 pm
Talk about leaving it to the fans to ruin a game :megaeyes:
Agreed. Why are idiots are even considering doing this?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 07, 2013, 04:10:46 pm
There's been one confirmed report of this happening and that happened on launch day. But of course, everyone's got to panic like fucking idiots without knowing the whole story.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Bastard Walt on November 07, 2013, 04:12:37 pm
Ah yes, you're one of the pro-hacking guys :megaeyes:
Why are people trying to get hacked Pokemon? Honest work's too hard for them?
Just because you enjoy biking up and down Route 7 waiting for your egg to hatch to see whether it has 5IVs in the stats you want them in, as well as the right nature, and the right ability doesn’t mean everyone does.
Only 1 confirmed report, you say? Source please.
Also, if this was reported just a couple of days back, it may be because it's happening on a larger scale.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 07, 2013, 04:28:45 pm
http://youtube.com/watch?v=TjsySmLeBS0
This is the video of the confirmed case of the bad egg It's dated October 13th, LONG before Smearlum started posting about the events.
Also, I honestly don't give a single fuck about hackers. Do what you want in my opinion.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 07, 2013, 04:44:44 pm
That is likely a rare bug from day one possibly patched. If these were traded from Day One you would think this issue was noted and resolved.
Also on one if my earlier posts an IRL friend of mine found the method of "injecting" by changing his NA Fennelkin into JPN, original ID and all, which oddly enough didn't bad egged my game.
And if you knew about it, why didn't you post on it since Day One?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 07, 2013, 05:12:24 pm
The video was posted day one on Gamefaqs but it was buried by all of the new posts. I didn't find it until Saturday which by then, all of the bad egg "reports" had stopped. Also I wanted to find proof that it was made via Wonder Trade before posting and panicking people.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Bastard Walt on November 07, 2013, 05:18:23 pm
While the fact that "It'd happened before" makes you technically right, the "well IT KEEPS HAPPENING, AND IT MAY BREAK YOUR GAME" makes your criticizing people panicking wrong
Let's just chill for a minute, and stop wonder trading here, because it can fuck up your game.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 07, 2013, 05:26:56 pm
Wonder trade was fun early in game just to fill Pokedex pages and get stuff early but now that I've progressed through the game I dont really get that much stuff I want or need anymore. I'll stick to GTS, especially since now you can request Pokemon that you havent seen yet.
Out of curiousity, does GTS negotiations still exist? I don't see any option for it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 07, 2013, 05:33:36 pm
While the fact that "It'd happened before" makes you technically right, the "well IT KEEPS HAPPENING, AND IT MAY BREAK YOUR GAME" makes your criticizing people panicking wrong
Let's just chill for a minute, and stop wonder trading here, because it can fuck up your game.
I'd agree except -The reports are from last week - Apart from the video I posted, there's no proof - People have been Wonder Trading since then and nothing has been reported
Yes , calling it scare mongering was wrong and I apologise, but there's not enough proof to link it to Wonder Trade apart from that video and as Kris said, that might of been patched. But I do apologize for the "panicking idiots" comment.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on November 07, 2013, 07:17:57 pm
More Legendary/Event/Etc. Pokemon in X & Y.
Lugia, Celebi, & Kyurem in battle (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/637737-pokemon)
Mew in Amie (http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/637738-pokemon)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 07, 2013, 10:57:12 pm
Celebi's model looks awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 08, 2013, 01:09:34 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/bfc9f1ce8fa571243eeb8604bbd7cd02/tumblr_mvx47mRusW1s9mrj3o1_500.jpg) I caught a shiny Mime Jr. while level grinding. I named him Cicero.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Person Man on November 08, 2013, 03:23:06 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discorduseethis_zps4ee97f62.png[/avatar]I finally got it. It's pretty good so far. Caught a Pikachu within 20 minutes of starting the game, so things are off to a good start.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Prototype God on November 08, 2013, 03:34:02 am
Caught me two shiny Poliwhirl's earlier in the week. Both of them don't have any of the natures needed for professional politoed play, but whatever imma still train the better suited one. *Goes back to shiny hunting dragonair.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 08, 2013, 04:20:55 am
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/bfc9f1ce8fa571243eeb8604bbd7cd02/tumblr_mvx47mRusW1s9mrj3o1_500.jpg) I caught a shiny Mime Jr. while level grinding. I named him Cicero.
I see what you did there (http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l521/wattaryu/isee_zps8986aed9.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hephaistos31 on November 08, 2013, 08:39:44 am
I DID IT!!! :D
I made a Froakie (Grenousse in VF), the water starter frog, with awesome IV!!! -10% Physical Att, +10% Magical Att, exceptional potential, Best in PV, Magical Def, Att, Exceptional in general.
Fuck yeah!! :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 08, 2013, 01:46:41 pm
Shiny Rotom, bitches...and a Lillipup :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on November 08, 2013, 08:36:27 pm
Wonder trade was awesome to me today. I got a freaking imposter ditto off one of my extra Abras I hatched when I was breeding to synchronize a timid nature onto Yveltel. Man, in Black 2 I wasted so much time trying to get one and here in Y all I have to do is drop off an extra hatched Pokemon.
That said I'm pretty much at the interesting point of the game where the
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evil team leader announces that he's going to kill everyone.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 09, 2013, 07:57:32 am
So, anyone want any beldum's? I'm trying to Masuda Method a Shiny one, so I have all these max Health IV Beldum's with decent Attack Natures.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 09, 2013, 11:08:33 am
Naw. I can get any Pokémon I want if I through enough baby Rotom around.
...yes, that was supposed to be a reference to that Rich Boy in the Battle Chateau. The one with the Clauncher. Needs to throw a bit more money :P
In reality, I've already got a wonderful Metagross :3
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 09, 2013, 11:11:33 am
That said I'm pretty much at the interesting point of the game where the
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evil team leader announces that he's going to kill everyone.
Sounds like Pokemon's antagonists are finally getting real for once
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 09, 2013, 02:54:22 pm
I finally reached post-game after 4+ weeks of nothing but grinding. For fun, I only used starter evos on the Elite 4. Also, for those using Battle Institute for he sake of checking it, a couple of unobtainable Pokemon are there to battle you like Contrary Serperior or Grass/Fairy Whimsicott. Lots of items and tradeable evos are available in Battle Maison and BP can easily be grinded from the Institute, but may or may not be tough dependable on your team roster.
Lastly I got a Shiny Timid Froakie without the Masuda Method during chain IV by breeding two other Froakies. I always said to myself that when you want a shiny, it never pops, and when you don't want a shiny, it pops out of nowhere. It's IVs are pretty meh, but it's workable with Toxic Spikes, and just to show it off.
Sounds like Pokemon's antagonists are finally getting real for once
All thanks to Ghetsis, and he's still the most evil.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 09, 2013, 06:57:33 pm
Just caught a shiny Klefki while level grinding with my Dragalge.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 09, 2013, 07:10:46 pm
(http://i44.tinypic.com/290s9vr.jpg)
I caught this while farming hordes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on November 09, 2013, 07:44:42 pm
Fuck, am I the only one who hasn't caught a shiny yet? :qq:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 09, 2013, 08:05:56 pm
No :qq:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hephaistos31 on November 09, 2013, 08:08:11 pm
No. But I'll not use a special method to get a shiny, just to "get it". If it have to happen, it will! :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 09, 2013, 08:21:42 pm
Just chain fish. I've caught like 3 shiny Clauncher using that method.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on November 09, 2013, 09:01:18 pm
Damn, it is true the probability of getting a shiny has been increased. Getting a shiny is extremely weird in pre-6 generation.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Laharl on November 09, 2013, 09:04:38 pm
anybody happen to have a ditto in their safari? none of my friends have one
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Flamme on November 10, 2013, 01:49:15 pm
Okay so for some odd reason I've had my 3DS crash while playing and now I have to do 2 hours of money grinding and perm my hair again. Dammit. :furious: Anyways, what's in my safari? I hope something useful.
So, anyone want any beldum's? I'm trying to Masuda Method a Shiny one, so I have all these max Health IV Beldum's with decent Attack Natures.
I'll take one if you didn't get rid of them already.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hephaistos31 on November 10, 2013, 06:17:54 pm
AH! ;) A better version for Froakie.
I made a Froakie (Grenousse in VF), the water starter frog, with awesome IV!!! -10% Physical Att, +10% Magical Att, exceptional potential, Best in PV, Magical Def, SPEED, Exceptional in general.
Fuck yeah!! :)
Now, it's Chespin (VF: Marisson) turn. :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 10, 2013, 06:23:30 pm
I made a Froakie (Grenousse in VF), the water starter frog, with awesome IV!!! -10% Physical Att, +10% Magical Att, exceptional potential, Best in PV, Magical Def, SPEED, Exceptional in general.
Fuck yeah!! :)
Now, it's Chespin (VF: Marisson) turn. :)
Come back when all of its stats can't be beaten. :smartass:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hephaistos31 on November 10, 2013, 06:27:55 pm
Well I already spent 10 hours on it, Rajaa. :) Now it's ENOUGH! :D I just learned that all the pokemon catch in Friens zone got at least 2 IV max?!?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 10, 2013, 06:36:20 pm
I'm currently training up a Clawitzer, but I can't decide between Assault Vest (when I can get access to it) and Leftovers for its held item.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 10, 2013, 09:08:51 pm
K, if you got a Gabite from my Friend Safari I'd prefer that. But any not Flabebe pokemon is fine.
I would see about catching a Friend Safari Gabite for ya cuz I'm pretty sure one of my friends has them, but I'm playing my Y game right now and I haven't beaten it yet. Sorry. EDIT: You're Gabriel ingame, right?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 10, 2013, 10:00:02 pm
Yes, also you're right, one of your friend safari's do have it, cus I;m a Dragon Type Safari with Gabite and Noibat. Posted: November 10, 2013, 10:38:06 pm Oh forgot to ask, Impish, Naughty, Bold, or Relaxed? Those are the current ones I have.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Flamme on November 11, 2013, 12:23:46 am
Out of curiousity, anyone know what else is in mine? All I know is that its psychic with Wobbuffet.
Munna.
It's a godsend.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 12, 2013, 06:14:39 am
Did a couple of battles with RicePigeon earlier. Here are the video codes if you want to watch:
First battle: YVHW-WWWW-WWW2-QBUK Second battle: J27G-WWWW-WWW2-QBUG
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 12, 2013, 07:02:23 am
My mistake was thinking Hippowdon would be able to take the hit in the first match, when I could have saved it, and the second battle had me on edge mostly because of MEvo vs Aura Sphere mindgames.
I really need to get off my ass, finish the game, and find that Dark Pulse TM.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 12, 2013, 07:16:47 am
Good games regardless. I noticed almost every time I Dragon Danced was a turn you switched pokes. Might want to shore up your predictions.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 13, 2013, 05:41:45 pm
Sort of XY related, but the soundtrack just got officially released internationally on itunes and...
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HOLY FUCK THAT KANTO CHAMPION REMIX. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yf0GpAueUc) Please let that be a downloadable track for wifi battles.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 13, 2013, 06:23:11 pm
Yes!
I wish I can kick people's butts to this theme!
It is like they have to fight the champion again, but instead of Blue or whoever, they have to face a stronger opponent:
ME!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 14, 2013, 08:37:34 am
Ain't it just the Origins soundtrack? As in the Super Music Collection contains music from both X and Y AND Origins?
You mean the new anime?
Well shit...
Still doesn't change the fact that that remix is badass, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on November 15, 2013, 06:22:29 am
It was just an OVA and Origin's music was still composed by Masuda and Kageyama.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 15, 2013, 08:42:03 am
Still, it's nice to hear the glorious music in HD with no sound effects.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 15, 2013, 10:26:46 pm
Origins English dub first episode is out. Unlike JPN version where all episodes are released on the same day, the dub eps will be streamed on selected dates.
Enjoy Professor Ryu and The Brock Ranger.
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The Charmander yelling scene got changed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on November 16, 2013, 07:19:11 pm
Origins English dub first episode is out. Unlike JPN version where all episodes are released on the same day, the dub eps will be streamed on selected dates.
Except that Pokemon TV apparently is crashing for everyone now.... Or mostly everyone that I read on the latest reviews past November 15. Server crash? Overload? Who knows, all I know it keeps crashing for me :P
I hope they get released online with the official English dub, or maybe they should send it over to Cartoon Network to air on REAL TV as a 2 hour special like they do with the rest of the movies.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 16, 2013, 10:04:29 pm
So I'm officially in postgame now. I must say I really liked the ending.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on November 16, 2013, 10:17:17 pm
Then you can finally start the Looker quest. It's pretty great.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 16, 2013, 10:36:24 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 17, 2013, 12:35:23 am
I'm probably making a very dumb offer, but does anyone have an yveltal that they don't want? I'm willing to take it off your hands.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 17, 2013, 01:32:31 am
I saw an Xerneas on the GTS that wanted to be traded for a Ditto.
I was too damn late :c
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on November 17, 2013, 02:48:48 am
I finally beat the game myself. Man, I kind of feel taunted by this game though because they did everything short of just warping me to the credits.
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They throw almost all of the psuedo-legendary pokemon at you to catch (With a few of them popping up not even halfway through the game!), they give you a Lucario and its mega stone to pretty much BS your way through everyone you meet, you're forced to catch your version legendary before you even take on the 8th gym, maxing out on pokemon-amie turns your pokemon into John Cenas, EXP share+Lucky Egg makes the super starter run viable, also speaking of starters Chesnaught is a homicidal genocidal suicidal death defying beast, fighting in the battle chateau enough will cause Audino packing trainers to appear, and I can really just go on. Like, is this game preparing me for the elite 4 or are they trying to prepare me for a smogon tournament?
Not that I'm haytin' but I prefer how White 2/Black 2's single player campaign went because while you do get re-battleable breeders and lucky egg they at least do not baby you as badly as X/Y. Oh well, off to the postgame.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 17, 2013, 06:22:32 am
Guess what
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Zygarde is actually a pain in the ass to catch if you don't whip out a master ball on it. I went through like 10+ ultra balls, a repeat ball (one was in my pokedex as part of a series of trades with a buddy), and one other ball I don't remember. I also accidentally killed it once because of my greninja's rocky helmet (I was using it to stay alive while I threw my balls at it.)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on November 17, 2013, 08:09:41 am
Dude Dusk Balls. x4 catch rate at night and inside caves.
I caught it in less than 20 tries.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Lost_Avenger on November 17, 2013, 08:21:16 am
Dusk balls are my favorite gen 4 addition. 2nd was the split. Im liking Y so far. Im hoping the difficulty jumps up dramatically though
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on November 17, 2013, 08:38:17 am
It doesn't. They're the easiest Pokemon games yet.
Don't turn Exp. Share on if you want it harder.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 17, 2013, 08:42:56 am
Zygarde is actually a pain in the ass to catch if you don't whip out a master ball on it. I went through like 10+ ultra balls, a repeat ball (one was in my pokedex as part of a series of trades with a buddy), and one other ball I don't remember. I also accidentally killed it once because of my greninja's rocky helmet (I was using it to stay alive while I threw my balls at it.)
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I think you should use the masterball on mewtwo. Bitch got recover again...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 17, 2013, 10:27:27 pm
Bro that was easier.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 18, 2013, 05:53:13 am
Origins English dub first episode is out. Unlike JPN version where all episodes are released on the same day, the dub eps will be streamed on selected dates.
Except that Pokemon TV apparently is crashing for everyone now.... Or mostly everyone that I read on the latest reviews past November 15. Server crash? Overload? Who knows, all I know it keeps crashing for me :P
I hope they get released online with the official English dub, or maybe they should send it over to Cartoon Network to air on REAL TV as a 2 hour special like they do with the rest of the movies.
On the day it was streamed I used my iPod and viewed the episode via Pokemon TV app. Worked fine but then again I viewed it early. But yeah, I prefer watching on channels much like the movies.
On a side note, I FINALLY got the hang of just about everything in X so now I can freely battle anytime. Also met up with my colleagues to try out some Pokemon I raised. Will add vid codes soon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 18, 2013, 08:49:04 pm
Mostly killed time breeding stuff prior to post-game to make my life easier, and have a few excess eggs lying around so if anyone wants the following, let me know (cant guarantee max IVs in any stat, unfortunately):
Calm Eevee w/ Wish
Careful Larvitar w/ Stealth Rock & Pursuit
Impish Skarmory w/ Brave Bird & Whirlwind (most have Keen Eye, but have a few sturdy lying around)
Modest Squirtle w/ Aura Sphere
Careful Hippopotas w/ Slack Off
Careful Phantump (Natural Cure, no Harvest yet sadly :()
Naive Gible (Sand Veil)
On a side note, finally got to 8th gym.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 18, 2013, 11:21:20 pm
RP man your safari gave me a munna :D. It's infested with female wobbufetts though and I've yet to find the third pokey.
I have an ice safari with bergmite, spheal, and dewgong myself.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 19, 2013, 01:22:14 am
Could be because I havent beaten the champ yet, hence why no 3rd pokemon yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 19, 2013, 01:24:16 am
Yeah, that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 19, 2013, 01:30:00 am
Makes sense.
BTW, I am looking for a DRAGON safari if anyone has one.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on November 19, 2013, 01:32:01 am
Breedable with Clawitzer that somehow carries Dragon Pulse, yep.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on November 19, 2013, 01:59:00 am
^ Oh I see, Clawitzer learn Aura Sphere and Blastoise can learn that by breeding in this generation. Nice. I thought, seeing that giant ass claw, he would be a physical attacker, appearances are deceiving. His movepool is ridiculous thought.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on November 19, 2013, 07:47:31 am
Might be worth looking into until Pokecheck gets complete Gen 6 compatibility.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 19, 2013, 10:13:34 pm
Seems that it requires 2 3DS systems to make full use of it unless you find someone kind enough to either lend you theirs or via online with time and patience. Still, pretty sweet since I can now view actual IV data even on unhatched eggs! Better than having to wait for something similar to Pokecheck.
What I don't get are the discovered Shiny values. If two trainers have the same value, tradeable eggs always results in Shiny, or from what I'm seeing, but seems there's more to it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Some Guy on November 19, 2013, 10:31:42 pm
BTW, I am looking for a DRAGON safari if anyone has one.
I have a Dragon Safari that has Dragonairs n stuff.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 20, 2013, 06:37:37 am
Oh shit, I want that
BTW, is it possible to find a safari with eevee's evolutions (I only have sylveon)? Or does one have one infested with eevees?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 20, 2013, 07:07:02 am
Serebii's got a list. (http://www.serebii.net/xy/friendsafari.shtml) Normal type safaris can have Eevees, but no Eeveelutions from what I can see.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: xPreatorianx1 on November 20, 2013, 09:37:40 am
Sorry I haven't gotten back on Pokemon X since I got it. I've been extremely busy with college and medical issues. I'll be doing a run tomorrow though. Or rather today. So hopefully by the end of tomorrow I'll have the main game beat and then just be doing post game stuff. As I want to clear the main game (bar elite 4 most likely) in one sitting as that's usually how I play Pokemon games.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 20, 2013, 04:15:49 pm
So finally got off my ass to get the last badge and holy shit @ the sudden level increase. I was using level 55s to wipe the floor with Olympia and now I'm facing level 59+ WILD pokemon in victory road. Keeping that Exp Share off was worth it, or it would have been too easy.
Of course now there's Audinos in the Battle Chateau to rely on getting everyone to 60, plus the missing TMs that require Waterfall to obtain.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 20, 2013, 11:55:34 pm
I just got the game a week ago, Pokemon Y, and finally captured Yveltal. The fight was so ridiculous I'm still recovering from shock. Every single turn, the goddamn thing got a critical with Dark Pulse, which send 4 of my Pokemon to hell in one turn. Setting Light Screen was totally worthless, it still killed in one single attack. Fortunately I managed to paralize it and hurt it to yellow. Then I throw a Dusk Ball, and I capture it first time. WTF. And then I check it and see it has Wings of Oblivion, which then I test it and holy shit the amount of damage it does AND heals, and so lucky I was that it didn't use it in that fight.
I'm so lucky Wings of Oblivion is totally overpowered, I wouldn't have survived the fight after capturing it, specially with that Mega Gyarados appearing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on November 21, 2013, 02:17:17 am
I just got the game a week ago, Pokemon Y, and finally captured Yveltal. The fight was so ridiculous I'm still recovering from shock. Every single turn, the goddamn thing got a critical with Dark Pulse, which send 4 of my Pokemon to hell in one turn. Setting Light Screen was totally worthless, it still killed in one single attack. Fortunately I managed to paralize it and hurt it to yellow. Then I throw a Dusk Ball, and I capture it first time. WTF. And then I check it and see it has Wings of Oblivion, which then I test it and holy shit the amount of damage it does AND heals, and so lucky I was that it didn't use it in that fight.
I'm so lucky Wings of Oblivion is totally overpowered, I wouldn't have survived the fight after capturing it, specially with that Mega Gyarados appearing.
All I did was keep throwing premier balls at Yveltal after paralyzing it with my Raichu's nuzzle. It gets caught within 10 of them. I'm just recovering from the number of soft resets it took me to get one that's timid and has perfect IVs in everything but attack.
Currently trying to get a near perfect Mewtwo as well and fuck orochigill for lying about how easy it is to capture.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 21, 2013, 03:38:24 am
Currently trying to get a near perfect Mewtwo as well
You have a better chance Masuda Shining than getting 30+ IVs on all but one of Mewtwo's stats. The best you're going to get is around 28+ while still getting 31 on 3 stats. Same goes for the birds, in fact, those and Mewtwo are just as difficult than before even with Capture Power Lv.3 unless you just chuck a Dusk Ball.
Speaking of, my Xerneas I caught with a Heal Ball has almost near flawless. Only about 30+ tries with Endeavor checking.
Currently finalizing my team to enter the Battle Spot Special rules. Took about a week or so of team brainstorming.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 21, 2013, 04:21:21 am
So finally beat Diantha. Can now access friend safari and kinda disappointed nobody in my list has a Ditto safari.
On a side note, anyone wanna check what my 3rd is now?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on November 21, 2013, 04:25:12 am
You have a better chance Masuda Shining than getting 30+ IVs on all but one of Mewtwo's stats. The best you're going to get is around 28+ while still getting 31 on 3 stats. Same goes for the birds, in fact, those and Mewtwo are just as difficult than before even with Capture Power Lv.3 unless you just chuck a Dusk Ball.
Forget Dusk Balls I'm using master balls at the moment. Screw recover. 'The heck else would I use master balls on in this game anyway.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 21, 2013, 05:10:30 am
Dude mewtwo was no problem for me. I just used my level 80 or so sylveon and it all worked out fine. I used ultra balls.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 21, 2013, 05:11:42 am
I weep over my failure of being unable to catch Psuedo flawless Articuno with 50+ Dive Balls.
I was actually planning to use dive balls on my articuno.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 21, 2013, 05:55:59 am
I just got a shiny Chespin like 5 minutes ago. Will add pics soon.
I always have this saying. When you're aiming for a Shiny, it never appears. And when you're not aiming for a Shiny, it appears out of nowhere.
Sad part is it doesn't have Bulletproof despite having flawless stats except Speed. I'm tempted to use it online for the Battle Spot Special to bluff other users, what do you think?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 21, 2013, 06:51:06 am
Then I'll bring out the X, Y, and Z when we fight :V
Pfff, all I need is the X for my legendaries. >:3
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 21, 2013, 09:04:18 am
Are you sure about that? :crowngrin:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 21, 2013, 12:56:19 pm
So with the new update in the game mechanics (aka Pokemon X/Y) that allows you to obtain DW abilities from male pokemons, and with easier ways to transfer IVs in breed (Destiny Knot is OP), I went to a Blaziken hunt. Right now I'm planning to get this:
- 31 IVs in Speed (though I will try aiming for all, specially since Destiny Knot makes it easier) - Jolly nature (+Spd,-SpA) - Ability: Speed Boost (+1 Spd for each turn) - 252 Speed. I still need to see if I want to boost his attack or defense. - Item: No idea, perhaps Leftovers is the best choice. - Attacks: Baton Pass, Sword Dance, Protect, Power-Up Punch.
It's going to be totally broken this set-up. Basically this is a Baton Pass Blaziken. First turn Protect allows me to get +1 Spd. Sword Dance is there in case my opponent switches opponents, or if I can risk it. Power-Up Punch for revenge kill, and even if I attack a Pokemon that has been switched and resists Fighting, it still grants me +1 Atk on succesful hit. Then I just Baton Pass to whatever will benefit more, and here you have a really broken set-up. Reason I focus in Speed is to make sure he gets to revenge kill with Power-Up Punch if necessary, and in case the opponent boosts his speed, to make sure Blazik is still faster.
It's really sad that Blaziken has a Mega form, but you benefit a lot more at making it have Baton Pass. Btw, guys, if you have a better suggestion for EVs and/or Nature, please do tell me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on November 21, 2013, 08:28:56 pm
loving that team...but if u got blaziken who already fast as ****, has speed boost...or if different blaziken, flame charge, beef up ur attack with a nature that does so...ur already fast. blaziken with baton pass...SMFH. thats the REAL helping hand move! lol
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Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on November 21, 2013, 08:32:33 pm
- 31 IVs in Speed (though I will try aiming for all, specially since Destiny Knot makes it easier) - Jolly nature (+Spd,-SpA) - Ability: Speed Boost (+1 Spd for each turn) - 252 Speed. I still need to see if I want to boost his attack or defense. - Item: No idea, perhaps Leftovers is the best choice. - Attacks: Baton Pass, Sword Dance, Protect, Power-Up Punch.
By logic, any Ghost with an over 70 STAB attack can wreck this setup... apparently. You would be passing just Speed if we consider this, in my opinion. You could use the suggestion of someone into competitive gaming, I´m not the case.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 22, 2013, 01:05:41 am
Yeah well, there's nothing I can do if they put a Ghost, Power-Up Punch becomes worthless against them, though Sword Dance is still a viable option. In this case, maybe something that allows him to take a move that instantly KOs him would be better. That way I'm sure I can get Baton Pass with a +2 Atk and +1 Spd.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 22, 2013, 01:13:06 am
That's why Baton Pass sets are usually best with maybe a coverage move or two like Flare Blitz or Earthquake. Power Up Punch is pretty much useless on everything not named Mega Kangaskhan, anyways.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 22, 2013, 09:06:30 am
Yeah, I just checked it and not really viable. Btw, I've been testing this Baton Pass + Sword Dance + Protect + Speed Boost and it's ridiculous, seriously. And because people abusing Aegislash, that Steel sword pokemon with King's Shield, Blaziken just goes over it extremely easily in Double battles. Specially since they always go for King's Shield in the first turn because the majority think you'll be using High Jump Kick or Flare Blitz in the first turn. So first turn you use Sword Dance, and unless the opponent switches out Aegislash, next turn it's instantly OHKO by it. And again, Speed Boost is so broken on it that you really don't need to Mega Evolve it. So much for giving it a Mega Evolve form.
Also, I checked a little about this set-up, and it appears I'm not the only one who thinks it's ridiculous to give it Baton Pass:
I'm also checking Gardevoir possibilities with its Mega Evolve form. Apparently, because of its Pixilate ability that turns Normal-based moves to Fairy plus giving them a 30% damage increase (and that without counting the STAB), the fact that Hyper Voice goes over Substitutes now, the fact it's immune to dragons and now doesn't die on Pursuit thanks to Fairy, Trace helping a lot if it gets an ability like Volt Absorb on entrance and the stat boost with Mega Evolve, it truly has become ridiculous (but first Pokemon Bank needs to be available as the only way to get Gardevoir Hyper Voice is in BW2). Though IMO, Mega Kangaskhan or Mega Mawile (which becomes Huge Power in ME, plus the Fairy type gives it a lot of coverage against other pokemon, even its own type) is even more ridiculous, and they combine well with Baton Pass Blaziken (+1 Spd and +2 Atk on a Mega Kangaskhan that then uses Power-Up`Punch is the most ridiculous sweeper ever LOL, and normally you get a Ghost type to counter Blaziken so switching to Kangaskhan can be considered safe). I will go with Mega Gardevoir only for a Baton Pass special attack. Need to find a good partner for it.
Which means I will have for single battles a Baton Pass Blaziken and a Mega Kangaskhan. Now to find a third member that can fit well for this set-up.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Person Man on November 23, 2013, 02:31:37 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discorduseethis_zps4ee97f62.png[/avatar]I added everyone who posted in the 3DS friend code thread, but here's mine again in case any of you want to poke around in my safari: 4253-3507-2670.
Fair warning though: I am the ultimate uber-noob at Pokemon. I know next to nothing about breeding or natures or move pools. I have no idea what an EV or IV is, and my team is composed exclusively of Pokemon that I think are cool. I'm mostly concerned with completing the game and, time permitting, catching 'em all. So don't expect any great battles out of me. I mean, you can try, but I'll probably lose pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 23, 2013, 04:55:29 am
Last two episodes of dubbed Origins is online. GioTager is awesome.
- 31 IVs in Speed (though I will try aiming for all, specially since Destiny Knot makes it easier) - Jolly nature (+Spd,-SpA) - Ability: Speed Boost (+1 Spd for each turn) - 252 Speed. I still need to see if I want to boost his attack or defense. - Item: No idea, perhaps Leftovers is the best choice. - Attacks: Baton Pass, Sword Dance, Protect, Power-Up Punch.
Better have a Ditto with 31IV in Speed in order to get that number. Although I prefer any boosting Attack nature (Lonely/Naughty/Adamant) since his speed will already outpace most mons and he already has the stamina of a wet tissue. The fact that Blaziken with Speed Boost is now on the Uber tier will only encourage him to be added in everyone's team in Battle Spot where only legends are banned.
Item-wise, Lum Berry in case of Prankster Thunder Wave that would otherwise stall your set-up, Sitrus Berry for longevity, or Passho Berry to stall out Aqua Jet users for one turn.
Give it either Blaze Kick or Fire Punch, Flare Blitz isn't needed for this set if your goal is to stock up and escape. Be cautious of priority users, Rotom-W, Unaware Quagsire, and Whildwind/Roar users.
Or I could hook you up with one of my own Torchic just to be on the safe side. I'm finalizing my team for Battle Spot Special and already I'm at a dilemma for whether or not I should teach Sylveon Hidden Power Rock to beat Talonflame.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 23, 2013, 08:47:04 am
I'm currently past battle 50 in the Battle Maison. This is getting tense. EDIT: I lost after 56 wins in the Super Single Battle Maison. Certainly annihilates my previous record.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 23, 2013, 02:19:28 pm
Better have a Ditto with 31IV in Speed in order to get that number. Although I prefer any boosting Attack nature (Lonely/Naughty/Adamant) since his speed will already outpace most mons and he already has the stamina of a wet tissue. The fact that Blaziken with Speed Boost is now on the Uber tier will only encourage him to be added in everyone's team in Battle Spot where only legends are banned.
Item-wise, Lum Berry in case of Prankster Thunder Wave that would otherwise stall your set-up, Sitrus Berry for longevity, or Passho Berry to stall out Aqua Jet users for one turn.
Give it either Blaze Kick or Fire Punch, Flare Blitz isn't needed for this set if your goal is to stock up and escape. Be cautious of priority users, Rotom-W, Unaware Quagsire, and Whildwind/Roar users.
Or I could hook you up with one of my own Torchic just to be on the safe side. I'm finalizing my team for Battle Spot Special and already I'm at a dilemma for whether or not I should teach Sylveon Hidden Power Rock to beat Talonflame.
Not sure if I want to use berries, I know it's rare to find but a Pokemon with Unnerve would screw me, and even with that, I never found berries to be as useful as other items. Rather give it that item that makes it endure a OHKO, to ensure I can get the chance to Baton Pass. I'm not that worried about Thunder Wave, honestly. I know it could cause some problems but I'm more worried about getting Sleep, which would completely stop me. IMO Paralysis and Confuse are not reliable status conditions, unless you put them together, in which case a 25% chance of being able to do something sounds cool, though setting it is not really that efficient.
I guess I will go with Fire Punch, it has more accuracy than Blaze Kick. Would suck that I missed in a revenge kill.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 23, 2013, 09:02:55 pm
IMO Paralysis and Confuse are not reliable status conditions, unless you put them together, in which case a 25% chance of being able to do something sounds cool, though setting it is not really that efficient.
To be fair, Paralysis does reduce your 'Mon's speed down to about 1/4 of its regular value iirc, so even if paralysis never prevents it from moving, it's lucky to be able to move first (or knows a priority move).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 23, 2013, 09:35:12 pm
Yeah well, Protect is a priority move, so at least one turn I'm sure to survive unless I'm unlucky. IMO Paralysis wouldn't hurt me that much for a Baton Pass Blaziken, I would be more worried, as I've said before, to get hit by Sleep, because if I switch out the Sleep counter resets, and if I don't... well, it's not a build meant to survive.
Anyway, I beat the Elite 4 plus Champion. Seriously, the game does make it easier for you. I mean, you get a Lapras for free that goes well against Dragon (Legendary in Pokemon X works well too), Fire and the Champion (fuck its part Ice though...), a Lucario that destroys Steel and the Champion again. Only problem is Water, but I had a Pikachu there assisted with Rain so yeah. Mega-Gardevoir was annoying though, that Fairy part makes Dark kind of a not-really-good choice.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 23, 2013, 09:40:26 pm
IIRC Baton Pass also passes status conditions. Paralysis is going to be a bigger problem than you might think.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 23, 2013, 09:42:16 pm
Yeah, but only temporary ones, like confusion. Permanent ones like Burn, Poison or Paralysis are not passed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on November 23, 2013, 11:01:32 pm
Does baton pass pass infatuation or the first turn of yawn?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 23, 2013, 11:02:52 pm
I added everyone who posted in the 3DS friend code thread, but here's mine again in case any of you want to poke around in my safari: 4253-3507-2670.
Fair warning though: I am the ultimate uber-noob at Pokemon. I know next to nothing about breeding or natures or move pools. I have no idea what an EV or IV is, and my team is composed exclusively of Pokemon that I think are cool. I'm mostly concerned with completing the game and, time permitting, catching 'em all. So don't expect any great battles out of me. I mean, you can try, but I'll probably lose pretty quickly.
Don't feel bad. I've never been into pokemon as much as these guys are. (no offense to any of you.) I just enjoy the game, get the pokemon I like/think look cool, and just have fun. This IV stuff is beyond me. Glad they introduced a mechanic to really get noobs like me some technical info on it.
BTW - I'll add the new friend codes that were listed here soon. Need to recharge my 3DS. I was testing out Donkey Kong Country Returns.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 24, 2013, 12:04:10 am
Does baton pass pass infatuation or the first turn of yawn?
Infatuation cannot be passed simply to avoid problems by baton passing to a genderless pokemon or a pokemon with the same gender. Yawn cannot be passed too, though I wonder why they don't allow that one to happen, when they allow Baton Pass the Perish Song count.
The list of things that can be passed with Baton Pass are:
- Status buffs and debuffs - Confusion - Curse (the one you get when a Ghost-type uses it against you, not the other one) - Perish Song - Nightmare (only if you Baton Pass to a Pokemon that has Sleep status too) - Leech Seed - Aqua Ring - Ingrain <- And IMO, it shouldn't work. A Fire pokemon getting Ingrain makes no sense - Magnet Rise - Substitute <- One of the most useful ones to Baton Pass - Mind Reader, Lock-On or any moves that assures you that next attack hits for sure.
That's from Generation V, don't know if there's been changes to this.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 24, 2013, 04:00:39 am
On the contrary, since non-ghost curse changes your stats, that can be baton passed as well, so it technically passes both.
The only real change Baton Pass has ever really received since it was introduced was that it can no longer pass Mean Look, Block, or Spider Web, and that was in Gen 5.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 24, 2013, 04:25:16 am
The list of things that can be passed with Baton Pass are:
- Ingrain <- And IMO, it shouldn't work.
Only on a dedicated Baton Pass team works, but nowadays not much is seen since Gen 3. Passing Ingrain, you're setting up to die to an absolute counter without switching, so there's that.
Currently shinies I have without chain fishing or masuda method.
On the contrary, since non-ghost curse changes your stats, that can be baton passed as well, so it technically passes both.
But on the Contrary, Curse lowers your Attack and Defense, but raises your Speed. *shot*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Maekron on November 24, 2013, 11:18:53 pm
Wow, haven't been around the Guild for a long time. Here's my code if anyone's interested: 5086 - 2093 - 1108 A bunch of faeries:) I'd be happy to add you guys.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 24, 2013, 11:20:49 pm
There's a 3DS FC thread here. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/post-your-3ds-friend-codes-154824.0.html) I already put your info into the OP and added you.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on November 24, 2013, 11:55:29 pm
Malamar´s ability is pretty fascinating. It makes superpower so good.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 24, 2013, 11:56:17 pm
Especially if you send it out while the opponent has a Sticky Web set up. Free speed boost for switching in + Superpower = domination.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 25, 2013, 04:28:16 am
Had a couple of battles in Special Rules. Started off with a horrid losing streak before making quick adjustments and getting back my points. Here's a few.
DDHW-WWWW-WWW3-8UWP NVVW-WWWW-WWW3-8UCJ
Everyone's team must have a Talonflame/Aegislash. Most of these players are very good.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 26, 2013, 12:58:36 am
Found my first SHINY!
It is a shiny Fraxure!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 26, 2013, 07:15:11 am
Lucky guy, my first and only shiny was a stupid Paplitoad :bigcry:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 26, 2013, 08:39:03 pm
So I'm hearing word that Pokemon Online just dropped the banhammer on MegaKangaskhan, but can't seem to find anything to substantiate this claim.
I wouldn't be surprised if this were true, though. Damn thing is a beast and pretty much everyone is forcing themselves to carry at least two Pokemon for the sole purpose of taking this thing down. I can't think of a better example of something this overcentralized since Genesect was made available in Gen 5.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 26, 2013, 08:40:01 pm
Tourney style play is too restricted to be fun anyway.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 26, 2013, 08:44:32 pm
MegaKangaskhan?
The double attack is really that strong?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on November 26, 2013, 09:00:41 pm
Imagine it this way
Double Stomp/Bite (With double chance of flinch) Double Bulldoze to make absolutely sure that you have the speed advantage to cause flinch Double Sucker Punch Double Power-Up Punch (Double boosts) I would say Double Outrage but switching into fairy types is a thing And of course, Double Return for the double STAB option
It's no shocker that mega Kangaskhan is under evaluation for being broken
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 26, 2013, 09:39:22 pm
Does Double Giga Impact work?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 26, 2013, 10:19:36 pm
It should, but why would you?
Also its been confirmed through testing that Parent Bond Seismic Toss causes exactly 200 damage instead of 150. That aside, there is apparently no physical wall in the game that takes less than 75% from a +2 MegaKhan, according to testing done on Smogon, so once MegaKhan gets that +2 attack from Powerup Punch, you're pretty much screwed unless you outspeed it, and thats not taking Sucker Punch into account.
Granted MegaKhan is taking 53% damage from itself every time it hits Rocky Helmet Garchomp or Ferrothorn, but then theres always Earthquake.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 27, 2013, 02:17:26 am
You don't even have to be a metagame person to know Giga Impact (As well as hyper beam) sucks.
Giga Impact has you recharging after the attack, so you might as well consider it two attacking turns with the damage being dealt on the first. Giga Impact has a base power of 150. You are essentially attacking with a 75 base power move over two turns paid up front.
Now Strength has a base power of 80 but you don't recharge after doing it. Therefore, you are attacking with a base power of 80 over the course of 2 turns which gives you an overall turns to base power comparison of 160 to Giga Impact's 150. On top of that, you don't have to recharge. You can do a different move on that next turn to better fit what happens next.
A goddamn non-Surf HM move is a better choice than Giga Impact. Think about that for a moment. Now if you want raw damage, I'd say Return/Frustration is ultimately the best choice. Double Edge if you feel like killing yourself quickly.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on November 27, 2013, 06:17:37 am
Just of curiosity, anyone here have a beautifly in their friend safari?
Also, i read the different types you can catch are determined by the fc# you obtain, and types can't be changed. Though I've always wondered if it also based on the 3DS you are using (ex. Normal type: regular 3DS. Water type: blue 3DS, fire type: red 3DS, Dark: Black 3DS, Ground: 3DSXL, Grass or Bug type: 2DS, etc), or the game in question that determines it. But from what I can tell, its just determined via FC# only. I was gonna test with different 3DS's but if i transfer all my data, i'll remain with my same 3DS FC i currently have.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 27, 2013, 08:31:28 am
You don't even have to be a metagame person to know Giga Impact (As well as hyper beam) sucks.
Giga Impact has you recharging after the attack, so you might as well consider it two attacking turns with the damage being dealt on the first. Giga Impact has a base power of 150. You are essentially attacking with a 75 base power move over two turns paid up front.
Now Strength has a base power of 80 but you don't recharge after doing it. Therefore, you are attacking with a base power of 80 over the course of 2 turns which gives you an overall turns to base power comparison of 160 to Giga Impact's 150. On top of that, you don't have to recharge. You can do a different move on that next turn to better fit what happens next.
A goddamn non-Surf HM move is a better choice than Giga Impact. Think about that for a moment. Now if you want raw damage, I'd say Return/Frustration is ultimately the best choice. Double Edge if you feel like killing yourself quickly.
I was just curious...
But damn, why the hell did GameFreak decide to make it so unbalanced? Seems kinda odd to me
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on November 27, 2013, 02:37:24 pm
Also its been confirmed through testing that Parent Bond Seismic Toss causes exactly 200 damage instead of 150. That aside, there is apparently no physical wall in the game that takes less than 75% from a +2 MegaKhan, according to testing done on Smogon, so once MegaKhan gets that +2 attack from Powerup Punch, you're pretty much screwed unless you outspeed it, and thats not taking Sucker Punch into account.
Granted MegaKhan is taking 53% damage from itself every time it hits Rocky Helmet Garchomp or Ferrothorn, but then theres always Earthquake.
Yeah, but apparently Parent Bond doesn't work in Double, Triple or Horde Battles with Earthquake. Same goes for any move that hits multiple targets in those modes, like Surf. In individual fights, it does. Well, if it did work, it would be even more crazy than it is right now.
And about Seismic Toss, you probably referred to both pokemons being lv.100, which yeah, 100+100=200 which is outright insane, and it ignores resistances too (though inmunity works). In double battles, you can easily bring a tank to low health for the slower partner pokemon to finish them off. In lv.50 battles, which would do 100 damage in total, it would probably be as dangerous as lv.100 too.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 27, 2013, 03:22:24 pm
Doubles is a different animal altogether. Blaziken may be banned from Singles, but it's still allowed in Doubles. Iirc it was the same case with Excadrill in Gen 5. Then you have Pokemon that suck in Singles but do exceptionally well in Doubles, like Musharna and Gen 3 Clefable.
And then you have Singles champions like Blissey and Skarmory which absolutely suck in doubles (except maybe Blissey with Gravity but still).
On the topic of Hyper Beam, the only time it was ever relevant in competitive battles was in Gen 1, where it didn't require a recharge if it scored a KO, early Gen 3 Slaking and early Gen 4 Adaptability PorygonZ, the later of which being the only special attacker that could take out Blissey before Psyshock was introduced. Otherwise the only real purpose it serves is as a last resort suicide move, but then you have SelfDestruct and Explosion which perform that job much better, even with the base power nerfs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 27, 2013, 03:31:07 pm
I was gonna test with different 3DS's but if i transfer all my data, i'll remain with my same 3DS FC i currently have.
No you won't. 1Ultima didn't. He downgraded to a Bug-type friend safari from a glorious Normal-type one with Chansey and Audino.
I was using the FC on the new one so when I transferred my stuff from my old one it overwrote my new FC with the old one. If your already using the FC on the old 3DS and transferring everything to the new one, you should be fine. And yes, I'm still bitter about it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 27, 2013, 03:32:48 pm
On the topic of Hyper Beam, the only time it was ever relevant in competitive battles was in Gen 1, where it didn't require a recharge if it scored a KO, early Gen 3 Slaking and early Gen 4 Adaptability PorygonZ, the later of which being the only special attacker that could take out Blissey before Psyshock was introduced. Otherwise the only real purpose it serves is as a last resort suicide move, but then you have SelfDestruct and Explosion which perform that job much better, even with the base power nerfs.
Yeah, in Generation I it was one of the best normal moves only if you were buffed and used against an opponent that didn't resist it... or maybe not, because it's easy to find Pokemon that resist Normal attacks (and let's not forget that switching to Ghost makes them take no damage), and usually you made a tank using Rock or Chansey in Generation I. Chansey could survive that attack, and the same for Rock types, plus Light Screen cripples that move a lot. And it's a 90% accuracy move, so if you had a move that decreased accuracy Hyper Beam turned unreliable even if there was no cooldown. It also has low PP, so you could spam Recover which had more PP, and most likely you'll end up running out of PP if you use Hyper Beam (plus the opponent has an easy time recovering from the damage or buffing special defense or doing other things).
So yeah, Hyper Beam was unreliable since day 1. A little better because it lacked cooldown in some parts, but still unreliable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 27, 2013, 05:01:29 pm
Jesus, Pokemon got complicated as hell. Or maybe it's me since I've never done an online match before :P
Does anybody know any decent guide to all of these different strategies? They might come in handy during some pain in the ass in-game battles for me :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 27, 2013, 08:41:57 pm
On the topic of Hyper Beam, the only time it was ever relevant in competitive battles was in Gen 1, where it didn't require a recharge if it scored a KO, early Gen 3 Slaking and early Gen 4 Adaptability PorygonZ, the later of which being the only special attacker that could take out Blissey before Psyshock was introduced. Otherwise the only real purpose it serves is as a last resort suicide move, but then you have SelfDestruct and Explosion which perform that job much better, even with the base power nerfs.
Yeah, in Generation I it was one of the best normal moves only if you were buffed and used against an opponent that didn't resist it... or maybe not, because it's easy to find Pokemon that resist Normal attacks (and let's not forget that switching to Ghost makes them take no damage), and usually you made a tank using Rock or Chansey in Generation I. Chansey could survive that attack, and the same for Rock types, plus Light Screen cripples that move a lot. And it's a 90% accuracy move, so if you had a move that decreased accuracy Hyper Beam turned unreliable even if there was no cooldown. It also has low PP, so you could spam Recover which had more PP, and most likely you'll end up running out of PP if you use Hyper Beam (plus the opponent has an easy time recovering from the damage or buffing special defense or doing other things).
So yeah, Hyper Beam was unreliable since day 1. A little better because it lacked cooldown in some parts, but still unreliable.
Gen 1 was dominated by Normal and Psychic types since Dark and Steel didn't exist yet. Psychic types were immune to ghost thanks to a bug in the typecharts, and strongest Bug type move was only 25 base power and learned by Beedrill. Two of the top OU Pokemon at the time, Alakazam and Chansey, had pathetic physical defense. Hyper Beam was a godsend, if not a staple move, of Gen 1 Tauros, another top OU Pokemon, and also on Persian for the same reasons. If that wasn't enough, both Tauros and Persian also have respectable base speed stats which, thanks to the way critical hits worked in Gen 1, gave them a significantly high CH rate on all their moves. The only thing that rivaled the power of a STAB Hyper Beam was STAB Slash on Persian, and that's only because Persian's already high CH rate coupled with Slash's increased CH rate made it strike a CH every time. And thats not taking CH Hyper Beam into account, which was very likely back then.
In other words, Hyper Beam in Gen 1 was more or less what Outrage is currently: an extremely good move, but only with STAB.
While we're discussing Hyper Beam, fiddling with my ROM hack of Ruby has led me to increase the base power of the hyper beam-esque moves to 250, which gives them an effective 125 base power. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 27, 2013, 10:23:50 pm
Don't know why you would hack Rubi?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 28, 2013, 12:51:32 am
Jesus, Pokemon got complicated as hell. Or maybe it's me since I've never done an online match before :P
I was about to recommend Smogon but most of their guides are outdated since not many are still in 5th Gen.
So try nuggetbridge.com and read some of their articles that can still work in Gen 6.
Fun fact, it took me about 5-6 months to get the entire grasp on 3rd Gen competition back in '03-'04.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 28, 2013, 12:52:48 am
Smogon's got some good gen 6 stuff on some of the pokes in their forum threads. It's where I got some of the ideas for the pokes I use.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 28, 2013, 12:56:27 am
But the forum threads are very unorganized. It'll take a while for guides to be added in the main page.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 28, 2013, 12:57:39 am
Meh, forum surfing isn't that hard. The OPs usually have some decent sets in there. A good mindset and maybe a bite to eat and you're all set to drift through as many pages as you need until something good comes up.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 28, 2013, 03:21:22 am
Welp, shit just got real (http://gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=217885)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on November 28, 2013, 04:12:17 am
Stuff like this makes me hate battling anything anywhere. They'll always be cheaters one way or another. I just don't understand why thy do it. They are only fooling themselves. Not to mention they're going to be banned from official tournaments anyway. There's no point. :P
They better fix the issue before, or right at the same time Pokemon Box becomes available. Otherwise there's going to be more BS going on.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 28, 2013, 04:20:53 am
Now all of my online opponents are IRL Maximilian Pegasus :gonkgoi:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 28, 2013, 05:42:32 am
I am mainly neutral in the whole "hacking wars"thing But this is just despicable. Why would anyone go to such effort to win a match on a fucking children's game?
Here's hoping Nintendo/Gamefreak patch this quickly because seriously. Just why?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on November 28, 2013, 05:58:43 am
What exactly is the weather nerf I've been reading a lot in Smogon?
The weather abilities Drizzle, Drought, Sand Stream, and Snow Warning used to summon permanent weather, making them superior to their move counterparts Rain Dance, Sunny Day, Sandstorm, and Hail, which only lasted 5 turns.
Now, these abilities only summon weather for 5 turns, just like their move counterparts.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on November 28, 2013, 08:47:57 pm
Unless you're holding those weather stones. Then its 10 turns.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 28, 2013, 09:01:19 pm
It was 8 turns with the normal weather summon, and I doubt they increase it to 10 for the abilities.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on November 28, 2013, 09:10:23 pm
Weather summoning (Sunny day, etc) with the respective stones lasted 7 to 8 turns in 4th generation, dunno if that changed prior 5th & 6th generations.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on November 29, 2013, 05:28:45 am
http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/information/fc0d552d-cbf1-45a6-a144-a4951990f512 Ranked online has been temporarily disabled cause of the hack rice linked.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 29, 2013, 05:59:53 am
Rip in pieces Instacheck. I hardly knew thee.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on November 29, 2013, 06:27:18 am
Well, at least Nintendo is aware of the problem. That's good. :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 29, 2013, 06:30:16 am
Man, some people be taking online Pokemon gaming to the extreme. It's just a game for God's sake....
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Man they got too much time on their hands
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 29, 2013, 09:43:55 am
I've got a hypothetical 3v3 team set up in my head and would like some opinions/suggestions before I start building it.
Roserade: Spikes lead and status absorber with Natural Cure. Baiting fire attacks for Chandelure switchins to absorb with Flash Fire. Chandelure: Fire absorber and general wrecker. (Mega) Blastoise: Rapid Spinner and more wrecking. EDIT: I'm especially looking for moveset/item suggestions for Roserade (outside of Spikes for obvious reasons) and Chandelure since they're the members I haven't built yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on November 29, 2013, 11:08:31 am
The most common thing I´ve seen with Chandelure is the Choice Specs/Choice Scarf set with Flamethrower, Shadow Ball, Hidden Power Fighting (I think) and other attack I can´t remember right now.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 29, 2013, 03:41:55 pm
I remember facing a Triple Battle team with Blastoise in the center with Water Spout, Mienshao with Helping Hand and Fake Out, and Crobat with Rain Dance.
But Spikes may not sound good in Triple format. Stealth Rock or Sticky Web is better with a Magic Bounce Pokemon as coverage.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 29, 2013, 05:09:51 pm
I meant singles when I said 3v3. My bad. I'll have to consider the choice specs set, though. I'm not gonna bother breeding for Hidden Power unless somebody else does, so I guess I have a bit more freedom when it comes to move choice.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on November 29, 2013, 05:49:14 pm
When I was a kid, I remember thinking that Sword's Dance raised my attack stat by 2
What was I :qq:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 29, 2013, 09:42:45 pm
If you say 3vs3 it's like you're telling us about triple battle LOL. At least I thought you meant that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 29, 2013, 09:44:21 pm
I usually say triples when I mean triples. ._.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on November 30, 2013, 06:29:45 am
Well I was thinking of giving Roserade either Choice Scarf or Life Orb. Technician is there only to boost up Hidden Power Fire/Ice for coverage IIRC so it might help. Scarf if you want a fast Sleep Powder unless you're up against something like Talonflame that would shut down your team. Leaf Storm and Sludge Bomb is a must. It all depends on your preference but I would try these out.
Chandelure doesn't seem like a suitable partner for Roserade IMO (the best partner is Heatran once Bank is out). I would instead try Talonflame, Mega Charizard X, or Barbaracle.
I rarely fiddle with any Wi-Fi battles due to how much of a cluster it can be and I just settle for Special Rules only.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 30, 2013, 06:33:29 am
Eh, I'm probably not gonna breed for Hidden Power. Too much work for my liking. I'm not so sure about scarf/life orb anyways, given I plan on using it as a Spikes lead.
I'll have to try Barbaracle, then. I already have a Mega slot taken up by Blastoise in that team, anyways. I could always get a Gale Wings Talonflame from one of my friends. Thanks for the thoughts.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 30, 2013, 04:24:11 pm
For the record, Draco Meteor from max investment MegaLatios hits Blissey for 55% damage minimum, and its Psyshock hits x1.1 as hard as MegaMewtwo Y's Psystrike with identical investment.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 02, 2013, 06:43:19 am
I can only wait until they come out with a special equivalent of Mega Mawile. Good times.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on December 02, 2013, 06:46:34 am
Shit, dragon/fairy? dayum
------------------------- So instead of using this Lvl 100 Garchomp I got from some wifi event, I decided to put it in the 'ol Daycare with Ditto.
The baby Gible just hatched a few minutes ago. Jesus, the thing knows outrage, earthquake, and stone-edge. I didn't know the last two could be egg moves ._.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 02, 2013, 06:48:05 am
They're TM moves. TM moves get passed down to offspring that can learn them if one of the parents knows them iirc.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 02, 2013, 06:49:49 am
OMG, those MegaEons are so powerful right now! Mega Latios with Draco Meteor with mother fuc**** adaptability! That´s insane. And Mega Latias with the OP typing. Now she´s weak to only 4 types. And have an immunity.
Great!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 02, 2013, 06:50:10 am
Just did some more calculations and if, and when, Soul Dew ever gets released this gen, MegaLatios's stab moves still deal 15% more damage than Soul Dew Latios. The only thing Soul Dew has over Mega is HP Fire, coverage moves, and sp.def boost, which doesn't account for much with that 140 base speed and a Draco Meteor that hits like a truck.
Also thanks to her retyping, MegaLatias no longer fears Pursuit.
Also regarding TM moves, I thought they changed it so that TM moves could no longer be passed down? Even if they could, I'm pretty sure previous gens required both parents to know the TM in order for it to be passed down.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 02, 2013, 06:52:20 am
The father passes the attacks, the female provide the species. It has been like that since forever. TMs can be passed through eggs too but the male must be the one that knows the attack. Not necessarily the female. Isn´t something game breaking or anything so why change it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Akito on December 02, 2013, 06:54:35 am
I want leftolovers! Someone have the localization of one, please?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 02, 2013, 06:56:03 am
The father passes the attacks, the female provide the species. It has been like that since forever. TMs can be passed through eggs too but the male must be the one that knows the attack. Not necessarily the female. Isn´t something game breaking or anything so why change it.
I'm pretty sure the mother passes down moves as well this gen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 02, 2013, 07:00:44 am
I remember when I was breeding for flawless Larvitars that the father Tyranitar knew both Earthquake and Rock Slide, both of which are TMs, and none of the offspring knew them upon hatching. Then again, the mother was a Ditto, so that may explain it.
Also, I got mixed up regarding the both parents thing. I was thinking of level up moves, not the TMs, so yeah, moves learned by level up require both parents to know them in order to pass them down, unless one of them is also an egg move.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 02, 2013, 07:06:52 am
Breeding with Ditto doesn´t save TMs for the offspring but is far easier than getting a fitting mother :P probably got things mixed up since I can´t remember very well how the TM attacks work on the offspring since in 4th generation I remember getting an Aron with earthquake from an Aggron father but can´t remember who was the mother. Probably is more specific in 5th and 6th, I´m stucked in 4th right now.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 02, 2013, 07:09:39 am
I remember when I was breeding for flawless Larvitars that the father Tyranitar knew both Earthquake and Rock Slide, both of which are TMs, and none of the offspring knew them upon hatching. Then again, the mother was a Ditto, so that may explain it.
Also, I got mixed up regarding the both parents thing. I was thinking of level up moves, not the TMs, so yeah, moves learned by level up require both parents to know them in order to pass them down, unless one of them is also an egg move.
TMs are no longer inherited, as far as I know. This doesn't really make a difference, since you could probably make the Pokemon that could learn the moves learn them by TM, and since TMs are no longer consumed upon use, well, no wonder they removed that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 02, 2013, 04:47:49 pm
Yeah, the fact that TMs are now infinite use made breeding for TM moves redundant, unlike Gen 2, 3, and 4. Removing TM breeding is nothing more than a minor inconvenience now.
EDIT: According to Serebii, event-exclusive moves can be relearned by the move relearner the same way egg moves can, but only for event Pokemon distributed for 6th Gen.
Also Gen 5 Global Link & Dreamworld begins next phase of shutdown in 8 days.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on December 03, 2013, 05:34:56 am
Going through Friend Safari, is there a reason certain pokemon that I've seen in their safari aren't showing up as I've seen?
In other words, I can't see 1Ultima's Vivillon listed in his safari as the 3rd slot. The first 2 slots of pokemon are showing up fine. I wonder if it has anything to do with being a modern design according to my 3DS region, instead of being the default Meadow pattern. I don't know what other reason it's not showing up as being seen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 03, 2013, 05:35:42 am
IIRC it only happens for Vivillon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 03, 2013, 05:50:15 am
Speaking of safari, Ricepigeon's 3rd Psychic Pokemon...
..is a freaking Shadow Tag Gothirita YEESSS
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on December 03, 2013, 05:51:23 am
You know I wonder if anything in my ice safari's any good (bergmite/spheal/dewgong).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 03, 2013, 05:52:28 am
Sturdy Bergmite is a godsend. The other two are barely used nowadays.
RIP MegaGengar. Kangaskhan will be joining you shortly.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 03, 2013, 07:26:12 am
I totally called Mega Gengar's banning. Not even Scizor can snipe key members of a pokemon team so easily.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on December 03, 2013, 07:27:10 am
Can one of you that has me added take a look at what abilities the 'mons in my safari have please?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 03, 2013, 07:30:42 am
Is because of the Shadow Tag. This ability make this special sweeper way too dangerous due to the inability to switch & Mega Gengar movepool is really huge. He can choose what to kill. Yep, definitely a good ban.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on December 03, 2013, 08:16:51 am
I remember getting an Aron with earthquake from an Aggron father but can´t remember who was the mother.
The mother was probably a Ditto.
Same thing here. That Gible I mentioned was the offspring of a Male Garchomp (who knew those moves) and a lvl 50 Ditto.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
How does a Ditto even..
Nvm, I don't want to know.
I need some suggestions for my Black 2 metagame team. I've got so far... -Hydreigon - lv 73 - dark pulse,flamethrower,dragon pulse, focus blast (going to get replaced by earth power soon) -Haxorus - lv 68 - earthquake, swords dance, dragon claw, brick break -Blaziken - lv 39 (currently still EV training him) - speed boost - hi jump kick, acrobatics, blaze kick, protect -i need a repalcement for acrobatics, and blaze kick will get replaces with flare blitz when I level him up -Braviary - lv 66 - (just basically using him for fly) brave bird, strength, superpower, fly -Lapras - lv 41 - surf, psychic, ice beam, thunderbolt (need to train him up) -Zoroark lv 51 (currently training this one) protect, focus blast, foul play, flamethrower. Everything except flamethrower will eventually get replaced.
I've got a lot of other pokemon in the PC, but I'm just using these for now. I haven't really planned anything specific but any suggestions from you guys would help a lot since this team is just me putting random shit together. Braviary is almost useless and Lapras isn't so useful right now though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 03, 2013, 08:20:55 am
For the record, Draco Meteor from max investment MegaLatios hits Blissey for 55% damage minimum, and its Psyshock hits x1.1 as hard as MegaMewtwo Y's Psystrike with identical investment.
Holy Smokes.
That is very powerful!
Hopefully my team would be up to the task, cause they would be very painful to face!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 03, 2013, 01:36:39 pm
Are they still discussing Mega Kangashkan? He's obviously uber, I don't see it lower than that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on December 03, 2013, 03:15:52 pm
Are they still discussing Mega Kangashkan? He's obviously uber, I don't see it lower than that.
Considering how they just banned MegaGengar, the odds are looking good.
Anyway, just did some damage calculations for the new Mega Eon duo. All calculations assume MegaLatias with full health with Multiscale active, Scizor with Technician, and Azumarill with Huge Power, both at level 100 with max IVs in all stats:
Spoiler: Swords Dance Scizor vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
+2 252+ Atk Swords Dance Scizor Bullet Punch vs 0 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 202~237 (66.78%~78.74%) +2 252+ Atk Swords Dance Scizor Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 202~237 (55.22%~65.11%) +2 252+ Atk Swords Dance Scizor Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 252 Def MegaLatias: 160~189 (43.96%~51.92%) +2 252+ Atk Swords Dance Scizor Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 146~172 (40.11%~47.25%)
Spoiler: Choice Band Scizor vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Bullet Punch vs 0 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 151~178 (50.17%~59.14%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 151~178 (41.48%~48.90%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 252 Def MegaLatias: 120~142 (32.97%~39.01%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Scizor Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 110~130 (30.22%~35.71%)
Spoiler: Choice Band Azumarill vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
252+ Atk Choice Band Azumarill Play Rough vs 0 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 168~198 (55.81%~65.78%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Azumarill Play Rough vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 168-198 (46.15%~54.40%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Azumarill Play Rough vs 252 HP 252 Def MegaLatias: 135~159 (37.09%~43.68%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Azumarill Play Rough vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 122~144 (33.52%~39.56%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Multiscale Dragonite(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 0 SpDef Multiscale Dragonite: 367~432 (95.08%~111.92%) Guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 0 SpDef Multiscale Dragonite: 404~474 (104.15%~122.80%) Guaranteed OHKO
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Ferrothorn(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Ferrothorn: 119~140 (33.81%~39.77%) 252+ SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Ferrothorn: 130~154 (36.93%~43.75%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Blissey(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Psyshock vs 252 HP 0 Def Blissey: 1020~1200 (142.86%~168.07%) Guaranteed OHKO 252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 0 SpDef Blissey: 282~332 (39.50%~46.50%) 252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252 SpDef Blissey: 234~276 (32.77%~38.66%) 252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Blissey: 212~250 (29.69%~35.01%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Skarmory(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Skarmory: 164~194 (49.10%~58.08%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Jellicent(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Jellicent: 255~300 (63.12%~74.26%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Tyranitar(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Tyranitar w/ Sand: 176~208 (43.56%~51.49%) 252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Tyranitar w/ Sand & Assault Vest: 119~190 (29.46%~34.65%) 252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 0 SpDef MegaTyranitar w/ Sand: 210~248 (51.98%~61.39%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Psyshock vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 76~90 (20.88%~24.73%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Hippowdon(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Hippowdon: 324~382 (77.14%~90.95%) 252+ SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Hippowdon: 357~420 (85%~100%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Scizor(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 0 SpDef Scizor: 243~287 (70.64%~83.43%) 252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 0 SpDef MegaScizor: 201~237 (58.43%~68.90%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Rotom(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef Rotom Appliances: 277~326 (91.12%~107.24%)
Spoiler: MegaLatios vs Aegislash(click to see content)
252 SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 0 SpDef Shield Forme Aegislash: 128~151 (39.51%~46.60%) 252+ SpAtk MegaLatios Draco Meteor vs 252 HP 0 SpDef Shield Forme Aegislash: 141~166 (43.52%~51.23%)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 03, 2013, 07:45:09 pm
^ Dude, Pokemon got so mathemathical. That´s like no fun :U There´s no way to kill a MegaLatias on one hit due to Multiscale, she will be probably the best support pokemon in this game. So, Bold nature would be a good one for a support set??
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 03, 2013, 08:00:22 pm
The Soul Dew gives them a better boost in special attack and special defense but it doesn't give them those ridiculous abilities. Interesting choice really.
Also, though, I doubt the battle maison will make their mega stones not work like it probably would with the soul dew.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 03, 2013, 08:11:07 pm
wow. just encountered a braviary. #fail. Now staraptor is the best looking bird. braviary looks so much more bad ass in Black and white. BW version (http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/200/f/8/Wargle_by_Xous54.png)
XY version (http://www.serebii.net/xy/pokemon/628.png)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on December 03, 2013, 08:19:09 pm
He changed his attitude...
...FOR AMERICA!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 03, 2013, 08:22:42 pm
hahahahahaha...he looks so depressed and overweight now. like his stomach is about to do a 'smack down' or something...lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 03, 2013, 08:26:38 pm
Yeah, some of the pokemon models look pretty bad in X and Y.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 03, 2013, 08:27:53 pm
but now looking at brave, a mega evo might save him...design-wise.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 03, 2013, 08:55:40 pm
Some more MegaLatias calculations versus common sweepers/attackers:
Spoiler: Aegislash vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
252+ Atk Blade Aegislash Iron Head vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 112~132 (30.77%~36.26%)
Spoiler: Talonflame vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
+2 252+ Atk (Swords Dance) Talonflame Brave Bird vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 146~172 (40.11%~47.25%) +2 252+ Atk (Swords Dance) Talonflame Brave Bird vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 107~126 (29.40%~34.62%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 109~129 (29.95%~35.44%) 252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 79~94 (21.70%~25.82%)
Spoiler: MegaKangaskhan vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
+2 252+ Atk (Powerup Punch) MegaKhan Return vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 247~291 (67.86%~79.95%) +2 252+ Atk (Powerup Punch) MegaKhan Return vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 181~213 (49.73%~58.52%)
Spoiler: MegaMawile vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
252+ Atk MegaMawile Play Rough vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 206~306 (71.43%~84.07%) 252+ Atk MegaMawile Play Rough vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 191~225 (52.47%~61.81%)
Spoiler: MegaLucario vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
+2 252 Atk (Swords Dance) MegaLucario Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 180~212 (49.45%~58.24%) +2 252+ Atk (Swords Dance) MegaLucario Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 197~232 (54.12%~63.74%) +2 252 Atk (Swords Dance) MegaLucario Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 132~156 (36.26%~42.86%) +2 252+ Atk (Swords Dance) MegaLucario Bullet Punch vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 142~168 (39.01%~46.15%)
+2 252 SpAtk (Nasty Plot) MegaLucario Flash Cannon vs 252 HP 0 SpDef MegaLatias: 224~264 (61.54%~72.53%) +2 252 SpAtk (Nasty Plot) MegaLucario Flash Cannon vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef MegaLatias: 176~208 (48.35%~57.14%)
Spoiler: MegaGarchomp vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
+2 252 Atk (Swords Dance) MegaGarchomp Earthquake vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 186~219 (51.10%~60.16%) +2 252 Atk (Swords Dance) MegaGarchomp Earthquake vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 136~160 (37.36%~43.96%) +2 252 Atk (Swords Dance) MegaGarchomp Poison Jab vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaLatias: 198~234 (54.40%~64.29%) +2 252 Atk (Swords Dance) MegaGarchomp Poison Jab vs 252 HP 252+ Def MegaLatias: 146~172 (40.11%~47.25%)
Spoiler: Greninja vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
252 SpAtk Greninja Ice Beam vs 252 HP 0 SpDef MegaLatias: 79~93 (21.70%~25.55%) 252 SpAtk Greninja Ice Beam vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef MegaLatias: 61~72 (16.76%~19.78%)
Spoiler: Gengar vs MegaLatias(click to see content)
252+ SpAtk Life Orb Gengar Sludge Bomb vs 252 HP 0 SpDef MegaLatias: 117~138 (32.14%~37.91) 252+ SpAtk Life Orb Gengar Sludge Bomb vs 252 HP 252+ SpDef MegaLatias: 91~108 (25.00%~29.67%)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 04, 2013, 05:56:46 am
Welp, looks like Smogon has compiled a preliminary list of this gen's OU Pokemon (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/official-smogon-university-simulator-statistics-%E2%80%94-november-2013.3494159/)
Wash Rotom, Aegislash, and Talonflame, whoop-de-fuckin-do. No surprise at all. There goes my hopes of this gen being more diverse than last gen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 04, 2013, 06:07:33 am
Diverse how?? It was obvious Aegislash and Talonflame were gonna be top 3, both are really strong. Plus the inclusion of some pokemon due to their mega evolutions, it makes sense. It has been the freaking same even since 4th gen (very few inclusions, not even a new half of OU).
No Latias for OU??
Thankfully Talonflame doesn´t hit as hard as I first thought.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 04, 2013, 06:22:39 am
It's hard for me to complain when Mawile, Pinsir, and Smeargle gets some use in OU.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 04, 2013, 06:28:56 am
Mawile is great. With its mega evolution it gets Huge Power (holy shit). Can use a Swords Dance boost, Sucker Punch and it seems like a good Aegislash counter (this is really important if he´s top 3). Is all good.
So apparently Mamoswine is the only good Stealth rocker now. Good.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on December 04, 2013, 07:59:31 am
Mega Pinsir. :freak:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on December 04, 2013, 12:49:53 pm
Yes! Bubble and Giggle aren't on there! I'm not like everyone else! Yay.
Rotom Frost FTW.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 04, 2013, 07:52:46 pm
So apparently Mamoswine is the only good Stealth rocker now. Good.
Stealth Rock Tyranitar, Donphan, Landorus-T, Smeargle, Ferrothorn and Heatran are still common (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6514412/)
Kinda sad Salamence, Metagross, Hydreigon, Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Latias all fell down to UU. Also kind of disappointed Heat Rotom, Mandibuzz and MegaBlastoise didnt get as much use as I expected them to. At least Skarmory hasnt fallen down and Trevenant is up there.
Funny how Blaziken is ranked as UU despite the fact that he's now banned.
Oh and because I've always had an interest in Doubles, heres their preliminary OU list for Doubles:
Spoiler: Gen 6 Doubles OU (pre-Pokebank)(click to see content)
Stealth Rock Tyranitar, Donphan, Landorus-T, Smeargle, Ferrothorn and Heatran are still common (http://paste.ubuntu.com/6514412/)
Mamoswine, Ferrothorn & Tyranitar seems like the only good Stealth rockers that can learn this attack in this generation (besides obvious Smeargle cause sketch) the others are from previous generations. Thanks for the correction,
lol, Togekiss got too good. OMG.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tsunamidusher on December 05, 2013, 04:15:52 am
(I added pretty much everyone from the FC list, Just a quick note. As you were...)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Person Man on December 05, 2013, 04:52:15 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordbutterfly.png[/avatar]Every time I want to come into this thread and talk about something in the game I get accosted by a flood of numbers and meta-game talk and I try to understand it but then my nose starts bleeding.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what's in my safari? Anything good?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 05, 2013, 05:08:54 am
I'm so pissed Season 1 Special got cancelled after all that hard work. Either way, I think I got everything down in case of battles in my area, with maybe one or two more to be breed just to be sure. Gonna wait for PokeBank to pass flawless Ditto and stuff.
Also, it turns out that there really is some filter when is comes to naming your Mons. For a colleague, I tried naming one but the filter prevented it from saving. Work arounds are the solution as always. Is this the first game to have this feature?
Welp, looks like Smogon has compiled a preliminary list of this gen's OU Pokemon (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/official-smogon-university-simulator-statistics-%E2%80%94-november-2013.3494159/)
To be frank, the whole "post-PokeBank" doesn't count at the moment IMO since Sacred Fire Entei is nowhere to be seen there.
That said, we did it. Charizard at OU at long last. Enjoy your Drought Venusuar BFF battles. You think Politoed/Kingdra gave you issues? Get ready for this.
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Kinda sad Salamence, Metagross, Hydreigon, Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Latias all fell down to UU.
But Latias isn't available!! Did that falcon THING really damaged this metagame? What's going on?!
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Every time I want to come into this thread and talk about something in the game I get accosted by a flood of numbers and meta-game talk and I try to understand it but then my nose starts bleeding.
Funny thing is I get the same feeling when trying to understand Smash Bros mechanics and metaspeak.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 05, 2013, 05:10:01 am
Every time I want to come into this thread and talk about something in the game I get accosted by a flood of numbers and meta-game talk and I try to understand it but then my nose starts bleeding.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know what's in my safari? Anything good?
i can only find out if u go online
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 05, 2013, 05:15:25 am
currently online now! anyone up for trade/battle/safari?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 05, 2013, 06:17:28 am
Good games, Hannibal. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/djhannibalroyce-81441) :3
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 05, 2013, 06:25:57 am
Good games, Hannibal. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/djhannibalroyce-81441) :3
agreed. i hate r blaziken. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 05, 2013, 06:27:19 am
* silently loathes your Talonflame *
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 05, 2013, 06:44:50 am
*silently loathes both*
Was expecting one of you to upload a battle video code but eh...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 05, 2013, 06:45:56 am
oh crap...next time :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 05, 2013, 06:47:42 am
I've got the battle videos saved for the most part. I'll have to look through them, I guess. But I dunno if you really wanna see them that bad. It's mostly just me sweeping him. :sweatdrop:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 05, 2013, 06:55:16 am
I've got the battle videos saved for the most part. I'll have to look through them, I guess. But I dunno if you really wanna see them that bad. It's mostly just me sweeping him. :sweatdrop:
oh...shit talking r we xan?.....hahaha. u beat me....but it wasnt a sweep......stop it slime! }8^(|
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 05, 2013, 06:56:53 am
Well, maybe not sweep, but still. Sorry about that. I'm used to battling tryhards anyways.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 06, 2013, 03:10:23 am
lol...it was a good fight tho...:)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 06, 2013, 03:14:07 am
Yeah, I'm glad we battled.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Stupid attracting Talonflame...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hoshi on December 08, 2013, 09:50:43 am
Thrid-Party Anti-Cheat Wi-Fi program available (http://gbatemp.net/threads/pokemon-wi-fi-anti-cheat-battle-analyzer-jammer.358632/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Mgbenz on December 08, 2013, 10:32:33 am
The Battle Analyzer and the guy who made it has a topic on GBATemp as well so you can talk shit to him all you want.
He's a pretty arrogant douche btw. He deserves it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 08, 2013, 11:15:16 am
Now expecting a program that can go over this program lol.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on December 08, 2013, 11:32:17 am
Now expecting a program that can go over this program lol.
haha
Man, I hope they come up with an emulator for a 3DS. Just curious, but emulator's are illegal right? If they are, I'll edit this post :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 08, 2013, 03:22:02 pm
A recent strategy guide in Japan was released a while ago that has updated data on Pokemon egg moves. Some egg moves aren't available due to Pokebank. This should be interesting.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 08, 2013, 08:18:53 pm
Man, I hope they come up with an emulator for a 3DS. Just curious, but emulator's are illegal right? If they are, I'll edit this post :P
Unauthorized dumping, downloading, and distributing BIOS and ROMs is definitely illegal. An emulator itself is a legal gray area that's best not to get into too much.
Back on topic, I pretty much have the post-game finished.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
yay my red/cynthia is Daft Punk
Now to build a team to loot the battle maison for their prizes I have to earn yet a-fucking-gain because gamefreak just won't let me transfer my hold items I already earned a million times. In the past, I could just have Salamence or Haxorus dragon dance and then let loose with outrage. Now the CPU can suddenly have fairy types so now that changes things a little.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on December 08, 2013, 09:15:21 pm
Back on topic, I pretty much have the post-game finished.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
yay my red/cynthia is Daft Punk
Now to build a team to loot the battle maison for their prizes I have to earn yet a-fucking-gain because gamefreak just won't let me transfer my hold items I already earned a million times. In the past, I could just have Salamence or Haxorus dragon dance and then let loose with outrage. Now the CPU can suddenly have fairy types so now that changes things a little.
Be aware of flinch-hax, critical-hax, Quick Claw-hax and team counter-hax.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 08, 2013, 09:18:57 pm
Be aware of flinch-hax, critical-hax, Quick Claw-hax and team counter-hax.
Dude, I am well aware of battle tower bullshit. They've been doing this crap since Pokemon Stadium.
In fact, I already experienced a Poliwag (No rain, only sun) outspeeding my timid Mega Charizard Y in the normal battles runthrough I had to do to make my opposite character appear for the post-game battle.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 08, 2013, 09:36:53 pm
Going to use Klefki, Rotom-W, and MegaChomp for singles in Maison. The fact the CPU uses unobtainable Pokemon with BS movesets (Entei with Sacred Fire) and having hidden abilities that are also unobtainable (Contrary Serperior) is beyond horrible.
I suggest grinding in Battle Institute for BP to use for item spending, also as a while to test your team.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 08, 2013, 09:38:34 pm
Be aware of flinch-hax, critical-hax, Quick Claw-hax and team counter-hax.
Dude, I am well aware of battle tower bullshit. They've been doing this crap since Pokemon Stadium.
Just saying I believe the CPU's upped its game once more. I swear they now generate Pokémon during the battle.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 09, 2013, 03:42:25 am
Currently heading back to my Emerald cart for last minute training for PokeBank. I'm thinking of teaching Ampharos Counter then porting it over to XY. Is Counter good for its Mega Evolution?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 09, 2013, 05:06:13 am
Only set Ive really seen on its MEvo was the Agility sweeper otherwise it was used in conjunction with trick room. Havent seen any with Counter so I doubt it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 09, 2013, 05:13:59 am
I'd say counter would work better if the mega evolution increased its HP instead of its defenses.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 09, 2013, 05:25:04 am
@Kirishima: (I think that's you) I apologize for being a terrible opponent.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 09, 2013, 05:52:36 am
Yep it's me, OT name's my other alias in multiple places. My team was experimental after mass breeding stuff and now I can defiantly take a break from that Daycare.
GG. Also see if you can find out the references to my Mons' nicknames =P
I'd say counter would work better if the mega evolution increased its HP instead of its defenses.
Though with max investment it reaches 384, and spreads to Def/Sp.Def, I think I could pull it off with Counter in its moveset. I still have enough BP on my Emerald for tutor spending, with one being Body Slam for Kangaskhan.
Main reason for this move is MegaRos can survive lots of Physical moves, with a few Earthquakes. Was previously thinking on adding Counter to Alakazam, Aggron or Tyranitar but no Sash makes it dead weight, Aggron has enough Attack for offense, and Tar has better options.
Only set Ive really seen on its MEvo was the Agility sweeper otherwise it was used in conjunction with trick room. Havent seen any with Counter so I doubt it.
It's mainly because not much players are aware of 3rd Gen tutors/exclusive so stuff like Follow Me Magmar and Seismic Toss Kangaskhan catches by surprise. And the fact that 3rd Gen tech is still usable in Gen VI is BS in general.
Also Golem, Gigalith, and lol Magcargo get Wide Guard as a hidden Egg move, an interesting buff in Doubles/Triples combined with Sturdy.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 09, 2013, 05:57:44 am
I'd just got done with some stupid Triple battle nonsense. I hate triple battles and my teams are very flat-rules based. I much prefer 3v3 singles, so keep that in mind next time you hit me up? At least I killed that stupid Pinsir.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 09, 2013, 06:55:09 am
MegaAmph may see a niche use as a counter to both Talonflame and Wash Rotom, both of which are in the top 10 OU, but its not like Counter itself is going to be doing much against those two, MegaAmph will just force a switch. Even if you do pull off a Counter successfully against someone, it becomes dead weight afterward to the point where Talonflame no longer has to worry about being KOed. Not saying Counter is a bad move, but I just dont see MegaAmph as a Pokemon that can use it successfully.
Suicune with Mirror Coat, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 09, 2013, 10:35:52 am
If you want to use MegaAmph as a Talonflame & Wash Rotom (which I believe it is a pretty great one) you won´t like Counter in your moveset (or maybe yes for Talonflame since MegaAmph with its defenses can tolerate a sword danced flare blitz) but not Wash Rotom. If you ask me, seeing MegaAmph defenses, Counter is worth a try at least. Should be fun.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 09, 2013, 12:57:25 pm
Many thanks guys. If it doesn't pull off well, I'll just rebreed another in XY without Counter.
Serebii added a new page with new Egg moves for all Gen 1-5 Pokemon. http://www.serebii.net/xy/neweggmoves.shtml
Pretty interesting with several Belch, Play Rough, Terrians, and Quick/Wide Guard users. But probably the most surprising....
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Chansey regains Seismic Toss as an Egg move, though its already known for a while.
Sableye however gets Imprison making it more of a threat in Doubles.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 09, 2013, 03:39:04 pm
Heracross gets Rock Blast as an egg move? MegaCross looks alot more threatening as a wallbreaker now.
And glad to see Sneasel finally gets Icicle Crash as a decent stab move.
Dunno how Clefable fared in doubles after Gen 3, but the fact that it gets Heal Pulse makes it sound like a solid supporter in Doubles.
But Wide Guard on Aerodactyl looks awesome, especially considering that the Guard moves got buffed this gen (they no longer fail if used in succession, unlike Protect, Detect, Spiky Shield, and King's Shield)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 09, 2013, 07:52:55 pm
I just really, really love that Chatot can learn boomburst. It gives me false hope that I can make Chatot live long enough to sweep with that after a Nasty Plot.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on December 09, 2013, 07:58:08 pm
Dayum, Squirtle got Aura sphere AND dragon pulse Lapras got freeze-dry, which is pretty cool, and houndour also got destiny bond :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 09, 2013, 08:08:27 pm
In other news, just saw this lulzy Triple Battle video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kAMG5hfg3c) involving Trick Room, Simple Beam, Skill Swap Carbink, and a Shedinja and all I can say was lol. Sturdy Shedinja for OP.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 09, 2013, 08:58:20 pm
Heracross gets Rock Blast as an egg move? MegaCross looks alot more threatening as a wallbreaker now.
And glad to see Sneasel finally gets Icicle Crash as a decent stab move.
Yes, this is what MegaHeracross needed to be more threatening indeed. It was kinda bad since he could only could learn Arm Thrust and there were better attack options than that.
Ice Punch wasn´t too bad but Icicle Crash is definitely better (besides the possibility of missing... that´s just me being paranoid).
So great egg moves for some pokemon:
- Corphish & Anorith get Aqua Jet, very good especially for Corphish :) - Chatot with Boomburst, finally a good (GREAT) attack to use Nasty Plot. Could be interesting. - Bunch of people with Wide Guard, especially Aerodactyl.
Guard of moves got buffed?? lol, this is gonna get annoying.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 09, 2013, 10:11:37 pm
Heracross also got Pin Missile this gen, but at least now it gets something else to abuse Skill Link with, not to mention 5 hit Rock Blast is more accurate and more powerful than Stone Miss Stone Edge.
And yeah, Adaptability Crawdaunt just got better with Aqua Jet now.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on December 10, 2013, 01:16:44 am
In other news, just saw this lulzy Triple Battle video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kAMG5hfg3c) involving Trick Room, Simple Beam, Skill Swap Carbink, and a Shedinja and all I can say was lol. Sturdy Shedinja for OP.
Oh my!!!
That was mean!
But I think I have some countermeasures to destroy that setup.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 10, 2013, 01:44:52 am
Sturdy Shedinja :D that is indeed a great strategy, if you don´t have a pokemon with Mold Breaker you´re screwed. But, Sturdy activate due to a status?? I mean, if he gets poisoned, he still endures that?? If he do, that´s officially OP.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 10, 2013, 01:52:58 am
Sand/Hail rears its evil head. But Paralyzing Sturdy Sheddy to prevent any Poison/Burn is genius.
Also I'm so stealing that tech because I'm too lazy to build a team for Triple Battle huehuehue
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 10, 2013, 02:03:40 am
So status besides paralyz & weather can destroy it, is alright then. Still a pretty great strategy for Triple Battles.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 10, 2013, 02:24:18 am
Damaging weather is the common way to beat it so changing weather and defeating the common set-ups are a priority. Toxic/Burn can kill it too. Mold Breaker absolutely as well as Rough Skin damage.
It's really tricky trying to set up this strategy since it requires lots of patience and bits of luck but once the main threats are cleared and Sturdy Sheddy is out, well, ban 1HP Sturdy.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 10, 2013, 02:37:35 am
Stealth Rock may suck in Doubles, but this gives it a use in Triples.
Also, as previously stated, Sandstream, Snow Warning, and Mold Breaker completely screw this strategy. Leech Seed too. I wouldnt call Sturdy Shedinja banworthy yet, its still extremely gimmicky and can be countered with the right setup, just like Lv 1 Aron can be countered with the right setup. Add on to the fact that most of these Sturdy Sheddy setups involve deliberately sacrificing one or two of your lead Pokemon just to take out threats and guarantee that Carbink can set up Trick Room, such as through Final Gambit or Explosion.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 10, 2013, 02:45:13 am
The ban thing was a joke though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on December 10, 2013, 03:18:09 pm
I lol'd so hard at that Sturdy Shedinja video.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on December 10, 2013, 06:23:13 pm
Not sure if everyone noticed, but that Shedinja has safety goggles, which nullifies weather damage, so no hail or sandstorm for you.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 10, 2013, 07:28:46 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on December 11, 2013, 01:31:53 am
And those would work.
And perish song.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 11, 2013, 02:27:07 am
Meanwhile, in the world of Singles, a single mother of one is about to have her child support cut off for good. (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/kangaskhanite-tiering-discussion.3494685/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 11, 2013, 02:32:41 am
Lame. I can see why they're going for the ban, but LAME.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 11, 2013, 02:45:44 am
I´d gotta agree Parental Bond is broken as fuck. Possibility of secondary effects & critical hits in the second hit is just the icing of the cake. Not many things can handle this Mega Kangaskhan due to his varied movepool, and priority doesn´t guarantee getting rid of it if she doesn´t break you first.
BAN FOR GOOD. NEED A REBALANCE.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 11, 2013, 03:27:06 am
FOOLS! THIS WON'T STOP HER FROM RAMPAGING VGCs!! MEGA KANGA MIRROR GF @ WORLDS ALL DAY EVERY- Yeah she's pretty derpish especially with the existance of Body Slam/Seismic Toss (which this IMO needs to be adjusted badly. 200HP of unscaled damage, fsck you burn stat).
We all saw this coming and all it does is rise in numbers in Battle Spot.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on December 11, 2013, 04:11:32 am
The thing is, all of these bans in Smogon do jack-shit into helping everyone beat these new mega-evos.
Instead of banning them to Ubers, which is useless since most of the multi-player base do not give a fuck about Smogon, why not focus their energy on coming up with strategies in beating these mega-evos?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 11, 2013, 04:16:00 am
The thing is, all of these bans in Smogon do jack-shit into helping everyone beat these new mega-evos.
Instead of banning them to Ubers, which is useless since most of the multi-player base do not give a fuck about Smogon, why not focus their energy on coming up with strategies in beating these mega-evos?
Because the thing that makes ubers be ubers is that they over-centralize the metagame which is the problem you've pretty much unwittingly explained now. If you don't care about their meta game rules then just combat mega evolutions with your Mewtwos, Arceuses, and Xereneases and crap.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 11, 2013, 09:17:55 am
- Second hit of Parental Bond will never miss if the first hits. - Able to use Seismic Toss which ignores stat drops and burn status AND the attack reduction of Parental Bond, taking out 200HP if it succesfully hits. - Sucker Punch if Seismic Toss is not an option, which is a good priority Dark move that can take care of whatever Seismic Toss can't. - The fact that it can gain +2 with any move that increases stats if it hits. - The fact that it gains another chance to inflict status with moves that can inflict it, including stun, and if he's faster, you're screwed. Plus critical chance too. - That stat increase because of Mega Evolution. - That damage calculation and OHKO that was posted before.
Seriously, I may not be one of the judges, but I'm not sure how you can stop this thing in OU. I find it stupid how some comments are about "We must not ban every single Mega Pokemon just because they're Mega". Sure, banning it because it's a Mega is stupid, but banning it because it gets ridiculously broken after it Mega Evolves is totally normal. They didn't ban Blaziken because it has Mega Evol, they banned it because of the Hidden Ability it gets, which allows pretty ridiculous combinations with an assured +1 Speed and access to 120 Attack power moves.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on December 11, 2013, 01:12:48 pm
Ah, I see.
But you know that the people from Japan or Mexico will not go and follow Smogon's rules, if they even know of Smogon itself in the first place.
With means, I need to find someway to beat them if and when Rated Battles go up again.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 11, 2013, 03:28:57 pm
You forgot to tack on to the list:
MegaKhan only has 2 reliable checks: Cofagrigus and Sableye, both of which are still shaky at best and both of which are UU.
MegaKhan overcentralizes the metagame to the point where not only are every single competitive team worth their grain of salt carrying 2 Pokemon MINIMUM just to deal with this thing, but the majority of them are running sets that, had MegaKangaskhan not been as big of a threat as it currently is, would be classified as extremely gimmicky (specifically Rocky Helmet Ferrothorn and Rocky Helmet Rough Skin Garchomp)
Going further from the above, the only reliable strategy of taking out MegaKangaskhan requires sacrificing a Pokemon, and even then its still not that reliable.
Do keep in mind this only applies to Singles. Im not saying MegaKangaskhan sucks in Doubles, but I doubt MegaKangaskhan would be as big of a threat in Doubles as it is in Singles. After all, Blaziken and MegaGengar are still allowed in Doubles (double targeting hurts Blaziken and Shadow Tag is near useless in Doubles for the same reason entry hazards are useless in Doubles; its so fast paced that switching is almost nonexistent).
Oh and just for the record, both MegaKangaskhan and MegaLucario are now officially on Smogon's suspect test ladder on Showdown. Posted: December 11, 2013, 04:11:25 pm
But you know that the people from Japan or Mexico will not go and follow Smogon's rules, if they even know of Smogon itself in the first place.
With means, I need to find someway to beat them if and when Rated Battles go up again.
While this'll be true for someone who isnt into competitive battling, the impact of Smogon's tierings have always had a "trickle down" effect on every other competitive battling community. If Smogon bans it, odds are everyone else is gonna ban it as well, and history confirms this:
Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-oh, etc? check Double Team & Minimize? check Fissure, Horn Drill, Guillotine, & Sheer Cold? OHKO'ed Soul Dew? gone Moody? gtfo Gen 4 Salamence? slain Manaphy & Darkai? yup Gen 5 Drizzle + Swift Swim? binned Gen 5 Genesect? extinct Therian Tornadus? gone with the wind
Hell, even the stuff that Smogon DOES allow trickles down. Once Smogon unbanned Black Kyurem in Gen 5, EVERYONE started using it in OU even if they couldnt give two shits about Smogon.
I dont expect MegaGengar and MegaKhan's bans to be any different.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on December 11, 2013, 06:20:36 pm
Maybe I was not clear when I said this, but I do use random match-up for my rated battles.
Maybe that Smogonite would play fair, but that Japanese or Mexican who I ran into the other day had not. They break sleep clauses. They used "banned" Pokemon. They are "competitive" players who will go to such lengths to defeat the enemy.
While Smogon's attempts to even the playing field are appreciated, it does not stop dick moves in rated random match-up. And it seems that the desire to win is always stronger than a person's honorable personality.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 11, 2013, 08:17:59 pm
Hohoh, yeah I remember the Rain teams in Gen 5... holy shit, those are so awfully strong. Swift Swim, Hydration, Dry Skin ._. I liked the Sandstorm teams thought (Broken as fuck Excadrill).
The idea of Pokemon isn´t to overcentralize the metagame (thought I don´t understand the concept all that well). MegaKangaskhan is so good, it overcentralizes the metagame you need at least 2 pokemons ready to counter that thing, which can cripple a strategy for your team.
MegaLucario is quite broken too but he´s still fragile.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 11, 2013, 08:44:43 pm
MegaLucario at least has its frailty and 4 moveslot syndrome to keep it in check. Taking swords dance Megacario into account:
Running Close Combat, Bullet Punch, and Crunch? Stopped by Talonflame, Gliscor, and Therian Landorus. Running Close Combat, Bullet Punch, and Extremespeed? Stopped by Aegislash and Therian Landorus. Running Close Combat, Bullet Punch, and Ice Punch? Stopped by Aegislash, Chandelure, and Gyarados. Running Close Combat, Extremespeed, and Ice Punch? Stopped by Gengar, Aegislash, and Sableye. Running Close Combat, Ice Punch, and Crunch? Stopped by Talonflame and Mach Punch users.
Not to mention certain scarfed Pokemon like Garchomp can survive a +2 Extremespeed or +2 Bullet Punch even with no HP or defense investment and revenge kill it. I know Scarfchomp useage has died down this gen but it should still be noted.
Even with +2 Close Combat doing over 50% damage to Gliscor and Talonflame, Gliscor can both OHKO back after the defense drop and Talonflame can 2HKO at worst with Flare Blitz followed by Priority Brave Bird if MegaLuke is lacking XSpeed. Any way you look at it, you don't have anywhere NEAR this amount of luxury against MegaKangaskhan.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on December 11, 2013, 08:50:02 pm
to think, Khangaskhan would be this strong after all these years...thank you Steroids...oops, i mean Mega Stones. LOL.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 11, 2013, 09:29:54 pm
Also something else to consider: unlike previous banned Pokemon, who completely wrecked OU but was meh-ish in Ubers (Gen 4 Salamence and Garchomp, for example), Mega Kangaskhan absolutely wrecks both OU AND Ubers, especially when this thing can do this: +2 252 Attack Mega Kangaskhan Crunch versus 252 HP 252+ Def Multiscale Lugia:
Maybe that Smogonite would play fair, but that Japanese or Mexican who I ran into the other day had not. They break sleep clauses. They used "banned" Pokemon. They are "competitive" players who will go to such lengths to defeat the enemy.
It's called "Playing to Win". There are way worse, but fortunately, they become gimmicky when you find the loophole depending on your team structure. Only rules allowed are the official ones of no Legendaries, including Zygarde who by Smogon terms isn't threatening.
MegaKhan only has 2 reliable checks: Cofagrigus and Sableye, both of which are still shaky at best and both of which are UU.
It'll be funny to see an Air Balloon Sableye if they are that desperate for a true MegaKhan counter. Though Sableye in general ain't that bad, at least for me.
Going further from the above, the only reliable strategy of taking out MegaKangaskhan requires sacrificing a Pokemon, and even then its still not that reliable.
There are other ways to deal with this thing from my experience. Stuff such as Reflect, having something tank hits while attempting to burn it, Imposter Scarf Ditto (lol), Scarf in general, priority moves that do heavy damage, Wobbuffet (LOL), Intimidate check, Prankster users that will still die as you said.
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Do keep in mind this only applies to Singles. Im not saying MegaKangaskhan sucks in Doubles, but I doubt MegaKangaskhan would be as big of a threat in Doubles as it is in Singles. After all, Blaziken and MegaGengar are still allowed in Doubles (double targeting hurts Blaziken and Shadow Tag is near useless in Doubles for the same reason entry hazards are useless in Doubles; its so fast paced that switching is almost nonexistent).
Mega Kangaskhan is listed S-Tier in Doubles so.....yeah.
Also Speed Boost Blaziken dies to Trick Room, Aqua Jets, and Protect so I agree. Personally, Gothitelle is the best Shadow Tag user. I seen some crazy set-ups involving her. MegaGangrel is pretty frail in this situation, but can still pull it off so I wouldn't call Shadow Tag useless in Doubles, unless you're facing an Aegislash.
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Oh and just for the record, both MegaKangaskhan and MegaLucario are now officially on Smogon's suspect test ladder on Showdown.
May as well add a rule in whether you should be allowed Megastones in general if this keeps up --;
Hohoh, yeah I remember the Rain teams in Gen 5... holy shit, those are so awfully strong. Swift Swim, Hydration, Dry Skin ._. I liked the Sandstorm teams thought (Broken as fuck Excadrill).
Funny thing is that there was an actual tournament months ago in which the Top 3 teams all had Swift Swim Drizzle teams :beamgoi:
Yes, when this thing wrecks even Lugia and Giratina you KNOW something is wrong.
:pwn:
Then again it needs Tailwind support, Screens, or Baton Passes to be much more of a threat or else MegaMewThree can just nuke itSUCKER PUNCH CALC PLEASE I MUST KNOW.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 12, 2013, 02:19:38 am
Then again it needs Tailwind support, Screens, or Baton Passes to be much more of a threat or else MegaMewThree can just nuke itSUCKER PUNCH CALC PLEASE I MUST KNOW.
Sucker Punch & Crunch have the same type and base power, though...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 12, 2013, 02:27:38 am
Good games, Answer. I saved our last battle and uploaded it.
Spoiler: Battle Code(click to see content)
XPWW-WWWW-WWW3-KHU9
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Lucina on December 12, 2013, 02:28:44 am
No, he meant the damage calculations with Sucker Punch when Kangaskhan use it. In Mewthree.
Oh, if that's the case, it's what Rice just said.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 12, 2013, 02:35:36 am
Ah I see.
Then again MegaMewtwoX would be the real Counter to it as long as long as MegaKhan doesn't have any Speed+ from its partners (Tailwind, Baton Pass, etc) or behind a Substitute.
Because people are getting paranoid from this thing if it even gives Legendaries issues.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 12, 2013, 02:38:18 am
Keep in mind that Mega Mewtwo X would no longer take super effective damage from sucker punch and also has higher defense and might also Drain Punch a good deal of the damage from Sucker Punch away. I'd say Mega Mewtwo X works well against her.
Mega Mewtwo Y though is just a suicide mission if mega kangaskhan is packing sucker punch.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 12, 2013, 02:41:32 am
It is still a very specific counter for MegaKangaskhan (I assume everyone and their mother has a mewtwo on their teams in Ubers??). Mega Mewtwo X is indeed the best counter for this thing but if you don´t have him...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on December 12, 2013, 02:43:30 am
It is still a very specific counter for MegaKangaskhan (I assume everyone and their mother has a mewtwo on their teams in Ubers??). Mega Mewtwo X is indeed the best counter for this thing but if you don´t have him...
If anything you need Gen IV Mewtwo since it can only get Drain Punch that way to deal heavy damage to this creature.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 12, 2013, 02:49:29 am
It is still a very specific counter for MegaKangaskhan (I assume everyone and their mother has a mewtwo on their teams in Ubers??). Mega Mewtwo X is indeed the best counter for this thing but if you don´t have him...
If there is a pokemon that everyone and their mother had in ubers it would be Kyogre because using that thing is as easy as throwing a choice scarf on it and clicking until another waterspout happens. Xereneas is also looking pretty Kyogre tier.
Mewtwo is still commonly used in ubers though because the thing can run virtually any set it wants effectively though I'd expect regular Mewtwo to be used more than its mega evolutions.
Mega Mewtwo X is not the absolute counter though. It's a good one and it's still there if you want an effective pokemon that is also effective against one of the major threats in the metagame.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 12, 2013, 02:55:03 am
If adamant drain punch is almost certain to OHKO, would a low kick just absolutely decimate megakhan?
In any case, Mewtwo X is not the most reliable counter after all...
MegaKhan's 220.5 lb puts Low Kick at 100 base power, so:
252 Atk Jolly MegaMewtwo X Low Kick vs 252 HP 0 Def MegaKangaskhan:
438~516 (105.80%~124.64%)(Guaranteed OHKO)
Yeah, Low Kick would do the trick, not to mention Mewtwo X survives the +2 Sucker Punch, there isn't much MegaKhan can do to it without prior damage or Tailwind Support. Mewtwo X can definitely check MegaKhan, but it won't be able to switch in against it.
Though I should note that a 252 HP 252 Atk MegaTwo X will be outsped by a 252 Speed Adamant MegaKhan.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 12, 2013, 05:54:35 am
Quick news. Fire Red/Leaf Green OST is on ITunes along with the original themes and exclusive J-Pop tracks. There's gong to be future OSTs along the way.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on December 12, 2013, 09:50:34 am
Though I should note that a 252 HP 252 Atk MegaTwo X will be outsped by a 252 Speed Adamant MegaKhan.
What. How is that even possible? MegaKhan is like.... a fatass. Nvm, I just remembered that the kid aint in her pouch anymore. Unrealistic pokemon stats mang. COME ON GAMEFREAK
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 12, 2013, 03:04:53 pm
Though I should note that a 252 HP 252 Atk MegaTwo X will be outsped by a 252 Speed Adamant MegaKhan.
What. How is that even possible? MegaKhan is like.... a fatass. Nvm, I just remembered that the kid aint in her pouch anymore. Unrealistic pokemon stats mang. COME ON GAMEFREAK
Megatwo X is base 130 speed: 296~359 (325~394 w/ +speed nature) MegaKhan is base 100 speed: 236~299 (259~328 w/ Jolly)
That being said, Adamant MegaTwo X needs a minimum of 16 speed EVs to outspeed 252 speed adamant MegaKhan and a minimum of 132 speed EVs to outspeed 252 speed jolly MegaKhan. Jolly MegaTwo X, on the other hand, only needs 16 EVs to outspeed any kind of MegaKhan.
So yeah, once PokeBank opens up as long as MegaTwo X carries Low Kick and avoids any kind of 252/252 splits in stats other than speed he shouldn't have any sort of problem. Posted: December 12, 2013, 03:31:54 pm Someone just asked me in Skype how a Bulk Up MegaTwo X would fare against MegaKhan:
WARNING: LOTSA MATH AHEAD:
Spoiler: MegaKhan vs MegaMewtwo X(click to see content)
252(+2) Jolly MegaKhan Return vs 252 HP / 0(+1) Def MegaMewtwo X:
4 HP / 0 Def Kyogre: 186~219 + 93~110 (279~329) (81.58%~96.20%)(Approx 55% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock)
Posted: December 12, 2013, 06:22:02 pm EDIT: Not only is there talk on Smogon about banning MegaLucario after MegaKhan gets the axe, but Mega Pinsir as well... I mean, what?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 13, 2013, 02:35:28 am
Smogon are full of idiots or what?? Mega Pinsir may be powerful but still suffers from the Bug/Flying combination. That itself is its main weakness. At this point we will ban every mega evolution because someone got whipped by one
:P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 13, 2013, 02:37:25 am
Gen 5 2.0, ladies and gents.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
...Sort of, what with the weather nerf.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 13, 2013, 03:14:02 am
It begins... (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/kangaskhanite-tiering-discussion.3494686/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 13, 2013, 03:24:36 am
EDIT: Not only is there talk on Smogon about banning MegaLucario after MegaKhan gets the axe, but Mega Pinsir as well... I mean, what?
Whatever happened to that "No Megastone if opponent doesn't have one" rule?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on December 13, 2013, 06:07:55 am
It's just "new thing hysteria" we're going through right now. When some new good thing comes out, people tend to jump guns. We get this all the time. If I recall, we've had people demanding the bans of things like stealth rock when they were introduced. I can see Mega Lucario having a chance of being banned. Its offensive stats + adaptability allow it to duke it out like an uber, its already faster than the average sweeper but also has a plethora of priority moves, and it maintains Lucario's incredible movepool. Like hell if Mega Pinsir will be banned though. That's totally a case of "new thing hysteria".
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on December 13, 2013, 03:55:46 pm
New patch
Serebii.net said:
For those of you who have purchased Pokémon X & Y, the second patch, V 1.2, is now live on the eShop. This patch fixes various exploits that allowed people to read data through data interception. This patch is required to go online and comes in at 236 blocks. In conjunction with this patch, Rating Battles have been reactivated in the Battle Spot part of the game
Here's the QR code (http://www.serebii.net/patch12.png)
Also PokeBank stuff
Serebii.net said:
CoroCoro featured some details on Pokémon Bank, due for release in two weeks. It didn't provide much new but did detail that there is a controller of the Bank system and she is Brigette, the same character as from Pokémon Box: Ruby & Sapphire, and that you receive PokéMiles when you transfer your Pokémon and confirms that the Hiker in Ambrette Town and Punk Girl in Kiloude City will have special things happen when you have transferred certain Pokémon, specifically Genesect and Kyurem respectively.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 13, 2013, 04:01:14 pm
RIP Battle Analyzer you will NOT be missed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 13, 2013, 04:02:39 pm
Sweet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on December 13, 2013, 04:47:16 pm
The patch also fixed a bug where Pokemon that evolved via Wonder Trade (eg Trevenant) didn't keep any moves they might of learned and a bug related to Trainer PR Videos.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 13, 2013, 04:49:12 pm
Also confirmed that Instacheck no longer works as a result of the patch. Oh well, small price to pay for axing Battle Analyzer. Posted: December 13, 2013, 08:19:53 pm
Fun starts at 3:21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvfnjZWbmXM)
good lord, what?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on December 13, 2013, 10:09:45 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTfSDbrskfE
Probably old news, but the video itself is new. ;)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 13, 2013, 10:20:08 pm
Also Brigette from Pokemon Box: Ruby & Sapphire confirmed to return in PokeBank, hell yes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on December 14, 2013, 02:18:59 am
Fun starts at 3:21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvfnjZWbmXM)
good lord, what?
Can't breathe
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 14, 2013, 08:25:12 am
I'm thinking of running a Mega Banette just to screw with people, but can't pick between fricken Shadow Sneak or Infestation for one of the slots. Infestation pretty much submits them to your Will o Wisp and Destiny Bond shenanigans, but some people kept saying Shadow Sneak was useful for revenge killing. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 14, 2013, 08:29:57 am
Shadow Sneak is very useful for revenge killing. Priority STAB move for a pokemon with a humongous attack?? You know the answer to that question. Prankster make so much for Mega Banette :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 14, 2013, 08:31:30 am
But then there's the residual damage buff. Combine Infestation's trapping and extra damage along with Will-O-Wisp and you practically have a trapped poke getting 2/8 of their health drained every turn along with having halved attack and being hit by your regular attacks. See the conflict here? They're both just too useful. Stupid 4MSS.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 14, 2013, 08:39:57 am
^ Yeah, if they don´t kill you after trying to set up that overcomplex trap. You could stall way better with things like Substitute, Taunt, Will-O-Wisp and stuff (thought kinda limited if we consider Whismicott). Banette has a 165 base attack, not using that would be silly/stupid.
Not a bad thing if you to try something thought, that´s the way to come with possible sets.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 14, 2013, 08:41:01 am
That's part of why I'm running Phantom Force on that set. It makes Infestation more useful than one would think since they can't just switch. Then again, I could always run a Mega Gengar if I really wanna trap with a ghost. Whatever. It was worth a thought. Although Infestation still sounds useful even by itself just to trap and snipe significant threats and pretty much guarantee DB shenanigans.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 14, 2013, 09:10:23 am
So I assume the set you want to run is
- Substitute - Phantom Force - Will-O-Wisp - Infestation/Shadow Sneak
Right??
Pretty situational. Can work to stall a physical attacker but a special attacker would be a problem. Substitute is amazing with Prankster so that could make Phantom Force work since Banette is still pretty slow.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 14, 2013, 09:10:54 am
Nope. Replace Substitute with Destiny Bond and you've got my set. I have it running the Phantom Force to stall for damage from Infestation and annoy them with Destiny Bond shenanigans.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 14, 2013, 09:21:37 am
I see the point of Destiny Bond since Prankster but why Phantom Force without substitute?? A special sweeper faster than Banette destroys it since this doll is still slow & fragile. So let´s see this situation:
- Mega Banette comes to the scene - Opponent can´t resist Banette, changes the pokemon. - Time to gamble, there comes something to counter or resist it. - If it is a physical sweeper, oh yes Will-O-Wisp but if is not or if it is a Fire type? - I doubt MegaBanette may survive a STAB move. You could use Destiny Bond.
The sets sums up into a gambled suicide (thought there are plenty of variables) but right now this is the only one I can think of. Could be interesting to see in action and see if a different conclusion occurs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 14, 2013, 09:22:20 am
That's part of why I want to run Infestation with Phantom Force. It traps them, guarantees a hit, and does a good bit of damage. I'm mostly using this to snipe threats that annoy my team more than they should. EDIT: Now I need to think of a good singles 3v3 core to run with it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 17, 2013, 04:11:24 am
Finally, after 2+ weeks on constant brainstorming, I have finished building my VGC '14 team for locals and online. All that's left is to do the actual team building in-game.
And JPN players gets new 8 mins O-Powers and a Wobbuffet, I mad. Posted: December 18, 2013, 03:39:34 pm Available on Sept 30, 2014 via Pokemon Bank is a special Celebi offer. No details on this one yet in terms of what moves it gets.
Is this like the second Celebi NA's gotten?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 18, 2013, 03:58:38 pm
If you don't count the Sneasel cloning glitch and execute arbitrary code glitch that were present in Gen 2, this will actually be the 7th Celebi distributed in the US overall and the 3rd Celebi to be distributed in the Gen 3-6 era:
Bulbapedia said:
GS Pokémon.com Celebi English United States ?? June 23 to July 11, 2001
GSC Nintendo Power Celebi English United States ?? July 2001
GSC Fun Fest Celebi English North America 5 August 4 to September 9, 2001
GSC Gotta Catch 'Em All Station! Celebi English United States 5 December 21 to 27, 2001; June 29 to July 4, 2002; October 11 to 17, 2002; November 22 to 28, 2002; March 7 to 13, 2003
RSEFRLG 10th Anniversary Celebi English United States 70 February 25 to July 23, 2006
HGSS Winter 2011 Celebi English The Americas 50 February 5 to March 20, 2011
Alternatively, you can import the japanese Colosseum with the Celebi bonus disc to more or less give yourself up to 48 Celebi (not entirely sure if this is per disc or per Colosseum save file, but Bulbapedia's description seems to imply the former if thats even possible).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 18, 2013, 04:10:46 pm
I remember the Catch Em All station, you could even get Lv.5 Shiny Lugia that way.
I don't remember Celebi being distributed in the 10th anniversary though, or maybe it was state specific since on that event in my location did not had Celebi available. It also had Fly Pikachu that I can't transfer to this day to 4th Gen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 18, 2013, 04:32:11 pm
It was (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_Journey_Across_America_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions#Locations)
Which sucks for me because one of the distribution centers was about half an hour from where I lived at the time, but never went since I lost interest in Pokemon around that time.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on December 18, 2013, 05:34:57 pm
...and the first Celebi the UK has ever gotten that I have been able to obtain.
Of all the GAME stores in the country, the local one didn't do the Celebi event :/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on December 18, 2013, 05:53:37 pm
Serebii.net said:
The Celebi is Level 10 when downloaded and has a new move Recover, Heal Bell, Hold Back, which acts like False Swipe, and Safeguard. it is downloaded by accessing the Pokémon Link option that will appear on the main menu of Pokémon Bank
Also it's available up until September 30th, not on.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 18, 2013, 09:21:13 pm
Of all the moves to clone, why False Swipe?
Then again, this is the same company who decided that MegaGyarados's best Dark-type stab move being Bite was a good idea. smh
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 18, 2013, 10:14:32 pm
I always thought Gyarados always had Crunch... guess I was wrong.
Some questions regarding EV training:
- It is completely necessary for a pokemon to reach its max stats (Attack, Defense, etc) to have PokeRuS?? or that just simplifies the task?? (talking about 4th gen) - There´s a formula to calculate the amount of EV consumed?? I know there are 508 or 512 EV points to be consumed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 18, 2013, 10:36:06 pm
1.) EV Training isnt necessary to get Pokerus. If anything, Pokerus was designed to make EV training easier, so it would be redundant to have max EVs before being able to get it. Its not necessary for EV training, but it does make the process less time consuming.
2.) Each Pokemon can have a maximum of 510 EVs spread out among each of its stats, with a maximum of 255 EVs (252 as of Gen 6) in any one stat. Vitamins like HP Up and Protein will add 10 EVs to that stat for each use until the Pokemon has at least 100 EVs in that stat, while certain berries like Pomeg Berry will reduce the EVs in that stat by 10. Perilous Soup and Reset Bag (Gen VI only) will reduce the EVs in all of your stats back to 0 so you can start fresh. Each Pokemon you encounter, both wild and trained, will also give you between 1-3 EVs total in certain stats, determined solely by the species (sites like Bulbapedia will give you a listing of which Pokemon gives what EVs, but only for Pokemon introduced in Gen I - Gen V).
One other thing to note is that because of the way experience works in Gen III and Gen IV, a level 100 Pokemon will not be able to gain any EV training except through the use of vitamins.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 18, 2013, 10:39:46 pm
^ Alright, thanks for the clarification :D Gen VI certainly made it easier to get ideal stats with certain items, huh? that´s cool.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 18, 2013, 10:47:33 pm
Some other things to note about EV training:
Macho Brace not only has the exact same effect as Pokerus, but stacks with it as well, so you'll be able to use both for a x4 EV gain instead of x2.
Items like Power Bracer and Power Anklet (introduced in Gen IV) give you +4 EVs in a specific stat each time you gain EVs from wild battles.
Pokemon that gain exp from the use of Exp Share will still gain EVs, even if you dont send them out to battle. This holds true for all games from Gen II to Gen VI.
Unlike regular exp, EVs are not split among Pokemon that are sent into battle; all of them gain the same amount. If you send all six Pokemon against a Blissey that gives you 3 EVs in HP, all six of your Pokemon get those 3 EVs.
The Wing items from Gen V work exactly the same way as vitamins, except that there is no cutoff point where they stop working. On the downside, they only give 1 EV instead of 10.
Pokerus, Macho Brace, and the Power items affect EVs gained from battles, but not EVs gained from vitamins, wings, Training Bags, or Super Training
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on December 19, 2013, 12:18:08 am
One other thing to note is that because of the way experience works in Gen III and Gen IV, a level 100 Pokemon will not be able to gain any EV training except through the use of vitamins.
Though in Gen V and Gen VI, EVs can still be received by a lv. 100 Pokémon from wild Pokémon, as level-up isn't necessary for them to take effect. I almost forgot about this when the GTS was giving away that Arceus...I don't think I've even bothered to catch it yet :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 19, 2013, 02:17:37 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 19, 2013, 02:28:03 am
I love how that thread's locked so there can't be discussion within the thread itself. It'll leak to other topics regardless of whether they want this to foster future discussion or not. smh
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 19, 2013, 02:31:07 am
It´s locked cause there´s no point in discussing that any longer. Mega Kangaskhan to Ubers cause the most comfortable counter inhabitate this tier. End of discussion. Moving to Mega Lucario which has the potential to be pretty broken thought still fragile.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 19, 2013, 03:11:45 am
There goes my Emerald hours :bigcry:
And lol Wish Kangaskhan. I forgot that thing even existed. Why I barely play simulators these days.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 19, 2013, 08:25:31 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/EAx9wZU.png)
Ah, the memories...
...
... the memories... *shoots self*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 20, 2013, 04:31:29 am
Poor beast shouldn't have used Minimize.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on December 20, 2013, 01:31:37 pm
Quick question for those knowledgeable in the competitive battling world Does Absol have a decent moveset now?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 20, 2013, 04:31:51 pm
It gets Play Rough iirc, other than that not much new was gained.
New moves aside, its Sp.Atk is now base 115 so it can effectively run a mixed attacking set now, not to mention Magic Bounce compliments both Swords Dance and Sucker Punch nicely.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 20, 2013, 08:12:39 pm
Absol always had quite the decent moveset for a Dark type if you ask me. He gets Sucker Punch, Psycho Cut, Stone Edge. Now with its mega form, as Ricepigeon stated, it can go with a mixed set and he can learn a lot of attacks in that department as well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 20, 2013, 08:20:46 pm
Fire Blast, most notably, though it does get Thunderbolt and Ice Beam as well, but Fire Blast is probably the better option to hit stuff like Skarmory, Aegislash, Scizor, Forretress, Ferrothorn, Mega Mawile, and Mega Lucario (though Absol won't be able to freely switch in to the latter two).
And let's not forget Absol gets access to Pursuit as well. Trapping psychics and ghosts with a STAB Pursuit coming off a base 150 attack stat is nothing to laugh at.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on December 20, 2013, 08:25:43 pm
Thanks a bunch for the advice guys I'm trying to get into competitive battling. There's a lot to learn.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 20, 2013, 08:31:37 pm
Feel free to hit me up for a battle once you're a bit more comfy with your teams. I'd like some challenge that doesn't come from the AI stacking the odds every time I get a win in the Battle Maison.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 20, 2013, 09:07:40 pm
Of ALL the things for Smogon to ban, LOL (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/endless-battle-clause.3495354/)
RIP Funbro
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 20, 2013, 10:17:43 pm
Well, it would be really annoying to find yourself in that kind of battle, in which they force you to quit unless you want to stay in a match forever.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 20, 2013, 10:32:42 pm
Toxic would destroy Funbro anyways.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 20, 2013, 10:45:34 pm
In other news, Pokebeach just leaked some info regarding Diancie, Hoopa, and Volcanion (http://pokebeach.com/2013/12/information-on-diancie-hoopa-and-volcanion)
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Diancie is Rock/Fairy, 2’04″, 19.4 lbs. #151. It is known as the Jewel Pokemon. “It can instantly create many diamonds by compressing the carbon in the air between its hands.” Diancie’s signature move is Diamond Storm, a physical Rock-type attack. A bunch of diamonds are created and thrown at the enemy. “The user whips up a storm of diamonds to damage opposing Pokemon. This may also raise the user’s Defense stat.” It has 100 power and 95% accuracy. Diancie can also learn Moonblast, Safeguard, and Light Screen. Diancie is not related to Carbink on its Pokedex evolution page. However it could be a Manaphy/Phione situation. Or maybe the diamonds it throws turn into Carbink after a couple million years? :p At Level 100 with no EV training, Diancie’s stats can be 222/236/300/236/344/135. Hoopa in Pokemon X and YHoopa is Psychic/Ghost, 1’08″, 19.8 lbs. #152. It is known as the Mischief Pokemon. “It gathers things it likes and pushes them through its loop to teleport them to a secret place.” Hoopa’s signature move is Hyperspace Hole, a special Psychic-type attack. A dark hole is created in the ground, Hoopa goes through it, then comes out behind the enemy and hits them. “Using a hyperspace hole, the user appears next to the target and strikes. This also hits a target using Protect or Detect.” It’s got 80 power and N/A accuracy. Hoopa can also learn Psychic, Shadow Ball, and Trick Room At Level 100 with no EV training, Hoopa’s stats can be 301/231/154/315/296/177. Volcanion in Pokemon X and YVolcanion is Fire/Water, 5’07″, 429.9 lbs. #153. “It expels its internal steam from the arms on its back. It has enough power to blow down a mountain.” Volcanion’s signature move is Steam Eruption, a special Water-type attack. “The user immerses the target in superheated steam. This may also leave the target with a burn.” It’s got 110 power and 95 accuracy. Volcanion can also learn Flare Blitz, Overheat, and Explosion. Volcanion is related to the Lumiose City blackouts. At Level 100 with no EV training, Volcanion’s stats can be 275/254/276/247/235/176.
Considering the stats that were listed and assuming max IVs and neutral natures, rough estimates of their base stats:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 20, 2013, 10:57:21 pm
Steam Eruption is a better version of Scald, for what I see. More damage, a little less accurate but hardly noticeable and the chance of inflicting burn. It's a pity it's a signature move, meaning you can't pass it to other Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 20, 2013, 11:15:40 pm
I think of it more as Hydro Pump with a burn chance. Hyperspace Hole looks pretty interesting. Never misses and hits through protect if I'm reading this right. Pretty nasty.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on December 21, 2013, 01:55:43 am
So, if these pokemon have their own new #'s, I'm assuming that Zygarde is no longer the last pokemon on the pokedex list. Though it makes sense that Zygarde should always be the last pokemon in the pokedex, but if the new ones are revealed later, then that means they get new #'s or something. I don't see them getting anything in between though.
I don't know. XP
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 21, 2013, 02:10:19 am
It's what they did for most of the previous gens' event legendaries.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 21, 2013, 02:27:09 am
Hoho Volcanion sounds really sick. That type combination is a headache in itself.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on December 21, 2013, 11:46:18 pm
(http://gcnmario.free.fr/999hits-headit.jpg)
Not that anyone would care, but I took a screen cap of this anyway. :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on December 22, 2013, 12:53:38 am
Your patience must be staggering. My hat goes off to you, sir.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 23, 2013, 11:59:30 am
Just got done with my first true IV breeding session. Took hours of on-again off-again breeding and a lot of luck. I now have a 5 IV Pinsir that will obviously be Mega'd I just need to train up. This thing better be worth it.
I'm starting to think of what to throw in with it in a 3v3 singles environment. Ferrothorn is pretty likely since I recently got my hands on a good one with SR/Spikes (both were egg moves so I can choose) and Leech Seed. Any ideas for a third mon? A lead, perhaps? EDIT: I'm just gonna go with Noivern as the lead. It's proven useful so far.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on December 23, 2013, 12:31:37 pm
Not that anyone would care, but I took a screen cap of this anyway. :P
Oh my...
Pretty impressive. I'd never be able to have the patience for that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 23, 2013, 11:15:18 pm
This is what happens when a Ferrothorn and a Dragonite can't damage each other for shit and have to stall each other out. FARW-WWWW-WWW3-U4BU A quickie battle with _Data_Drain_: 9DLG-WWWW-WWW3-UCEH
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on December 24, 2013, 11:08:41 am
Well to be fair. We had two battles...
U9JG-WWWW-WWW3-UCHT
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 25, 2013, 04:19:01 am
PokeBank is released for JPN versions with international versions releasing Friday. New info from Serebii.net.
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You get shown details of the 30 day trial pass when you log in, and it prompts you to extend it by subscribing Poké Transporter is 218 blocks / 27.25MB Poké Transporter only gives you the option to transfer Box 1. You get 100 PokéMiles or 10 Battle Points for transferring a box You can transfer partial boxes Hiker gives you all four drives, not splitting across the versions. According to the hiker, Genesect is "rumoured" to have been found in Glittering Cave. The five meteors are irrelevant to the specific form of Deoxys. They aren't red herrings or anything. Each meteor will cycle through: Normal > Attack > Defense > Speed and loop round Feebas has a second ability: Oblivious Shiny Charm is the reward for completing the National Pokédex
Not that anyone would care, but I took a screen cap of this anyway. :P
I always wanted to know what the limit cap is. That's pretty good!
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Any ideas for a third mon? A lead, perhaps?
Azumarill with Aqua Jet, Multiscale Dragonite, or Volcarona with Quiver Dance.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on December 25, 2013, 04:56:53 am
Yea, pretty much we're going to see bull, esp. from Japan now that Poke-Bank is out. On Christmas Day, not surprisingly.
PokeBank is limited to BW/BW2, how will we explain getting others like Lugia and Ho-Oh in there? Transfer pokemon from HG/SS into BW, then transfer from BW to bank?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 25, 2013, 04:59:28 am
You could use a R4 :smug:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 25, 2013, 05:03:54 am
Yea, pretty much we're going to see bull, esp. from Japan now that Poke-Bank is out. On Christmas Day, not surprisingly.
PokeBank is limited to BW/BW2, how will we explain getting others like Lugia and Ho-Oh in there? Transfer pokemon from HG/SS into BW, then transfer from BW to bank?
Pretty much. Hell, you can transfer Pokemon straight from the 3rd Gen to 4th, then to 5th, then to Bank. Tedious indeed, but it also explains why there's a rise in Body Slam Kangs in Battle Spot.
You'll get use to it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on December 25, 2013, 06:51:34 am
you can transfer Pokemon straight from the 3rd Gen to 4th, then to 5th, then to Bank, then 6th gen.
Fixed.
Considering if you transfer from 5th to the Bank, then you then want to transfer to your X Y to play in online battles, and in poke-amie.
My, GOD that's a lot of transferring. X_X
But yea, when this happens, someone show me what all the rest of the pokemon look like in Poke-Amie. I am very interested. I haven't played any of the past games other than Yellow. Though I collected some of the games over the years, just never got around to playing them. So I'd have to start playing 2 games, and do some transferring just to see them in my own game. Though I don't understand why Nintendo wouldn't have HG/SS compatible with Bank. They are DS games just as BW/BW2 games are. :-/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Darkflare on December 25, 2013, 09:15:51 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 26, 2013, 12:01:39 am
I'm more laughing at how that article is written.
Oh well. See you all in v1.3.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on December 26, 2013, 12:46:45 am
I don't think most people were expecting that to be the case. There's probably something to be said about the amount of a spread illegal and illegitimate Pokémon can have with wireless trading and the GTS; I'd bet if an unsuspecting user was unable to transfer their favorite Pokemon they didn't realise had been hacked (or, a Pokemon hatched from the egg of illegal parents that's never touched an external program) you'd see someone put up a similar article decrying the opposite. At least in this case, hacks that are possible in XY but not in BW due to changes to breeding mechanics, anyway.
Has anyone tested the ranked wi-fi / trade restrictions on Pokemon with varying illegal factors yet?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on December 26, 2013, 01:31:50 am
So..... For those that using ahcked pokemon, they use a pokemon maker app, and transfer that hacked data to BW/B2&W2, then transfer to bank, to X Y? Seems legit.......Hell, it may not be official, but I'm sure there are dishonest people who will do this, just for the sake of seeing them animated in Poke-Amie or other purposes specific to X Y.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Raptorkou on December 26, 2013, 02:38:45 am
I've been on the GTS seeing people with their comment set as like.. "5IVPOKESAV" like they're just advertising their pokemon's hacked.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 26, 2013, 03:31:28 pm
Serebii said:
Nintendo have announced that they have temporarily removed Pokémon Bank from the Nintendo 3DS eShop. This is following hte massive influx of users on both Nintendo 3DS and Wii U coming on Christmas, plus the addition of Pokémon Bank causing the Nintendo Network to drive to a halt. This means users cannot download it anymore and currently cannot access the features of the game.. It is currently unclear when Pokémon Bank and Poké Transporter will return, or if the western release is delayed. They have made it clear that the 30 day trial for previously registered users will restart when it returns. Edit 14: Pokémon Bank is now listed with a release of TBD (To Be Decided) on the North American and European eShops. We'll bring details on this as soon as we can
Nintendo's body wasn't ready...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on December 26, 2013, 03:50:26 pm
I'm just curious as to how the influx of users caught them off guard. Not like it was Christmas or anything. Not a yearly event at all
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 26, 2013, 04:21:44 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on December 26, 2013, 04:40:35 pm
Also shiny Oddish get. Should I use it for the lulz?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 26, 2013, 04:59:25 pm
Evolve it. Go nuts.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on December 26, 2013, 06:32:06 pm
Gotta ask. What's with all these people wanting Suicune on the GTS? I mean, Suicune's not THAT good, is it?
I'm not talking about a couple of people, I mean literally everyone wants a Suicune for their Pokémon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 26, 2013, 07:16:27 pm
Suicune used to be a good bulky water and was OU for 3 generations straight until Gen 5, when it fell to UU. Part of this was due to the rise of Jellicent and Gastrodon to combat rain teams and the power creep brought on by the new additions to Gen 5 that made Suicune's bulk less effective. Now that rain has been nerfed, Gastrodon is no longer the Pokemon it once was, giving Suicune a potential chance to shine again. It still has to deal with Jellicent and improved offensive threats, though.
Either that or theyre trying to bypass the GTS's new filter by asking for impossible Pokemon so they can use the GTS as an extra PC box. You saw this alot in Gen 4 with lv 1 Dialgas and Palkias until HGSS made it possible to get them at those levels.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on December 26, 2013, 07:37:27 pm
Suicune's hardly impossible. There's quite a few on the GTS.
Heatran, Thundurus and Terrekion are supposed to be good, but I don't really see anyone asking for them, or at least not the extent people are asking for Suicune.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 26, 2013, 07:42:18 pm
Azumarill with Aqua Jet, Multiscale Dragonite, or Volcarona with Quiver Dance.
I'll have to consider that. I've got a nice Larvesta I need to transfer over from Gen 5.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 26, 2013, 08:37:04 pm
Right now Jellicent is far better than Suicine. That thing is seriously annoying and really effective to stall someone plus its great defenses and typing... let´s not forget recover.
Don´t blame everyone for wanting a Suicine. His design is great and is a classic. And it could return to OU again thanks to the weather nerfs (TY GameFreak).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 26, 2013, 10:43:40 pm
Jellicent is lacking on the phys defense side though, but otherwise yes, its spdef and typing makes it excellent.
Suicune is sort of the opposite, being mostly physically defensive while using Calm Mind to patch its SpDef. The Scald/Calm Mind/Rest/SleepTalk set from Gen 5 might be much more effective now, especially now that sleep mechanics are back to the way they were in Gen 4, which is another boon for Suicune. Even if he stays in UU again, he'll still have a niche in OU somewhere.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 27, 2013, 03:09:47 pm
http://www.serebii.net/xy/neweggmoves.shtml
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Koffing: Toxic Spikes
Oh my....
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on December 27, 2013, 05:27:03 pm
In other news, the eShop's back online. Yay for all.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on December 27, 2013, 05:58:00 pm
eShop still throws errors for me sometimes. But at least I have the game updated now
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 27, 2013, 08:21:44 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on December 28, 2013, 10:37:46 pm
And game is now beaten. If someone could tell me what's in my friend safari, it'd be much appreciated Currently Super Training my 31 IV HP/SpA/Spe Mewtwo
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on December 28, 2013, 11:23:48 pm
And game is now beaten. If someone could tell me what's in my friend safari, it'd be much appreciated Currently Super Training my 31 IV HP/SpA/Spe Mewtwo
I think you're the last person I registered on my FC list.
You have [Electric] Type field, with an Electrode on 1st, and a Heloptile on 2nd. No 3rd one yet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Raptorkou on December 28, 2013, 11:30:09 pm
If anybody's interested, I've got Manectric, Pikachu and Electrode in my park. Might be wrong, but I think Manectric's a version exclusive for X. ('Cause I know the mega evo is) So whoever wants one.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Also heard from multiple people on /vp/ that in Poke Bank's data, it has headers for compatible games, 4 for Unova and 6 for Kalos. In other words, Nintendo PLANS to have 4 more games set in Kalos.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on December 29, 2013, 12:33:13 am
I'm not expecting anything big though. It may be like special event type games only. That is if they are set in Kalos, the game is pretty much finished, so there's nothing really they could do, unless releasing a new game called Pokemon Z, with Zygarde as the main Pokemon, with newer areas in Kalos. Otherwise, I don't expect anything else big from them that they've already had, and showed us by far.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on December 29, 2013, 01:00:49 am
I believe it was Marilland that made a video explaining a fairly valid point on more "Kalos" region games. Heavily based on berries
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 29, 2013, 03:39:52 am
So Serebii updated the updated attacks list for some of the older moves found in Pokebank Pokemon. (http://serebii.net/xy/updatedattacks.shtml) Nothing too notable except:
Magma Storm: 120 power -> 100 power TechnoBlast: 85 power -> 120 power
Not that the latter matters too much since Genesect almost exclusively runs Choice Scarf, but at least now Technoblast outdamages Life Orb Thunderbolt/IceBeam/Flamethrower by 3 base power...
Yeah, nothing too impressive
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 29, 2013, 03:40:56 am
Still useless because the drives aren't worth losing other items' benefits. Nice try, Gamefreak.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 29, 2013, 03:45:26 am
Is still a freaking 120 base power attack that can hit through mostly anything. I understand people prefer something like Thunderbolt/Flamethrower/Ice Beam but right now is a considerable option.
Magma Storm was usable or used on battle??
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 29, 2013, 03:52:20 am
It was used on a trapper Heatran set back in Gen 5 but wasnt too great since it was a trapping move. Now that the passive damage from partial trapping moves has been buffed, it might be much more viable, except now its base 100 instead of base 120. Oh well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 29, 2013, 03:54:51 am
Is still a freaking 120 base power attack that can hit through mostly anything. I understand people prefer something like Thunderbolt/Flamethrower/Ice Beam but right now is a considerable option.
Doesn't really add much to coverage and there are moves with more utility that could take the slot rather than Techno Blast.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 29, 2013, 03:59:22 am
Is an option as I said. That will depend entirely on the team build cause Genesect shouldn´t necessarily cover everything. If only that attack was a STAB Steel type... damn.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 29, 2013, 04:04:25 am
Genesect can run BoltBeam along with Flamethrower, so it's able to cover absolutely anything. Probably part of why it's such a big deal. Techno Blast doesn't really add much to that even if it's a Steel move.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on December 29, 2013, 04:08:30 am
Except its Normal, not steel.
But yeah, Bolt/Beam/Flamethrower with Scarf and a Uturn, and possibly even Extremespeed in there somewhere is all you really need and the thing is still stupidly OP. Not as bad as it was in Gen 5 but still...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 29, 2013, 04:17:04 am
That´s why added the wishful thinking :P would be nice to try it but considering its tier (assuming it still will be Uber) is better the U-Turn/Bug Buzz-Flamethrower-Thunderbolt-IceBeam set. Or as you said, Extremespeed (lol this thing is really OP).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 29, 2013, 04:17:14 am
The Steel remark was hypothetical since Aldo said it should be a Steel move. EDIT: :ninja:'d
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on December 29, 2013, 05:05:43 am
So, I'm reorganizing my team and I don't know who to make my 6th pokemon. Currently got: Physical Sweeper (Mega) Blaziken, Rough Skin Garchomp, Special Sweeper Hydreigon, Metagross, (Mega) Aggron.
Any suggestions?
Edit: Vespiquen, Claydol, Gyarados, and Cofafrigus are on my Radar
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 29, 2013, 05:16:25 am
I dunno how likely this is, but you could repurpose Hydreigon to be a mixed sweeper and run a Volcarona for your special needs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 29, 2013, 05:27:59 am
He covers the physical offensive part with Metagross, Blaziken & Garchomp thought. Hydreigon can pull out a special offensive set very nicely (due to his varied movepool) with Choice Specs so I think he is good in that department. You could use a Cofafrigus or Claydol in there, depending on your needs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 29, 2013, 05:29:07 am
Points noted. The versatility of running a mixed set on Hydreigon is actually pretty good though. No real need to switch out because you've hit a special wall.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 29, 2013, 05:41:26 am
Regarding Claydol & Cofagrigus (I can´t pronounce that shit):
- If you want a dual screener this is your guy. Earthquake or Earth Power for a STAB move (good type to have) and Ice Beam cause Ice is good. It could benefit from Reflect itself plus it can learn Explosion and provide good support cause Levitate is great plus great defenses. - Cofagrigus is a freaking physical wall, its defense stat is humongous and his Special defense is great. His special attack is pretty good too compared to Claydol and can learn Nasty Plot. His ability is also pretty useful cause it can destroy pokemons that use its ability for a boost in his attack or something.
It depends on your needs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on December 29, 2013, 05:46:39 am
Claydol also learns Rapid Spin and is resistant/immune to every entry hazard. Cofagrigus can also set up a sweep using Nasty Plot and Trick Room.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 29, 2013, 06:41:23 am
So, I'm reorganizing my team and I don't know who to make my 6th pokemon. Currently got: Physical Sweeper (Mega) Blaziken, Rough Skin Garchomp, Special Sweeper Hydreigon, Metagross, (Mega) Aggron.
Any suggestions?
Edit: Vespiquen, Claydol, Gyarados, and Cofafrigus are on my Radar
If Blaziken has Speed Boost (which may or may not cause rage quits along the way), I recommend swapping the stone for either Life Orb, Air Balloon, Lum Berry, or Coba Berry to lower Talonflame's Brave Bird as an alternate choice.
I recommend adding Gyarados as a last slot as it synergizes well with Blaziken and Aggron and I'm thinking of substituting Metagross/Hydreigon for Calm Mind Cofagrigus as well for it to phaze foes with Will-o-Wisp.
Currently I'm rebuilding my VGC '14 team for Season 2 after taking my current one for a test giving mixed results.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on December 29, 2013, 08:16:23 am
Oh right, fuck Talonflame. Can Gyarados learn Thunderfang somehow?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on December 29, 2013, 08:22:09 am
Nope. But it can learn Stone Edge.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on December 29, 2013, 08:27:59 am
DONE. Gyarados it is.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on December 30, 2013, 12:59:33 am
On a side note, Black Kyurem still doesn't get Icicle Crash this gen. Gamefreak must REALLY want a base 700 in Underused this gen hate this thing don't they?
EDIT: Is it just me or is Zekrom able to learn Crunch and Stone Edge now?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 02, 2014, 12:21:29 am
Me testing out a team of six against somebody from Tumblr: 9XAG-WWWW-WWW4-6ZHL
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 02, 2014, 09:22:37 pm
Smogon just posted December's useage statistics: (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/official-smogon-university-simulator-statistics-%E2%80%94-december-2013.3496623/)
Spoiler: Singles Pre-Pokebank OU(click to see content)
Well, I got the 4chan anti-leech image in the spoiler.
Doesn't that kind of indicate without any shadow of a doubt that it's from 4chan? :V
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 03, 2014, 02:55:26 am
Starmie you can't let it end this way.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 03, 2014, 06:43:40 am
After encountering six teams in a row all using Wash Rotom, Genesect, Landorus-T, and Mega Lucario, I can officially say that OU just got boring as hell for me.
Genesect seriously needs to go back to ubers, you can just slap it in any team with no brain cells involved and still win matches, which was EXACTLY what happened in gen 5 that got it banned in the first place.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 03, 2014, 06:51:18 am
I don´t know why Genesect isn´t an uber in here. Is so good revenge killing with the choice scarf that isn´t even funny. He´s cheap. By any means the other two pokes in most of the teams were Talonflame & Aegislash?? or at least two pokes varied on all those teams??
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on January 03, 2014, 09:38:51 pm
I'd doubt it, Talonflame evolves from what is basically the first pokemon you catch so it's probably one of the most easily available OU Pokemon.
Get out yur Copa Berries.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 03, 2014, 09:42:51 pm
Honedge are also found pretty early on if you're persistent in looking for them.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 03, 2014, 09:59:54 pm
I´ll take that as a yes, then.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 03, 2014, 10:22:38 pm
Here's a silly little battle I did with a friend a few days ago: GA2G-WWWW-WWW4-8VSS
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 04, 2014, 02:37:11 am
I'd doubt it, Talonflame evolves from what is basically the first pokemon you catch so it's probably one of the most easily available OU Pokemon.
True, but you won't be able to get one with Gale Wings (which is the only reason why this thing is used to begin with) until post-game unless you get one from GTS.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 06, 2014, 03:04:36 pm
All Legendaries with Forms and Special Moves.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on January 06, 2014, 05:08:47 pm
ooooooooo @_@
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 06, 2014, 05:09:59 pm
While I saw that video a while ago, Kyogre's cry still destroys the remnants of my soul.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on January 06, 2014, 05:56:28 pm
What the hell did they do to Reshiram's cry? DAMN IT GAME FREAK. YOU HAD ONE JOB >:C
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 06, 2014, 06:12:09 pm
Well, now we need a video that showcases everyone in Poke-Amie. Or at least the harder to get ones. ;)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 06, 2014, 07:57:02 pm
They changed Reshiram's cry but not White Kyurem's? Why? Also the dude missed some moves out but meh. Poor Kyogre. And Raikou.
At least the models look good.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 06, 2014, 08:56:18 pm
What they did to Kyogre´s cry is unacceptable. It was one of the best in past generations. The rest are the same or the changes are alright.
The models are pretty sick thought (and look much better in game).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 06, 2014, 09:19:37 pm
So the global link is offline for 6 hours until 9 pm est today... Final preparations for PokeBank, maybe?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 06, 2014, 09:41:53 pm
Hopefully But in the meantime, Have some Gen 7 rumours (http://dualpixels.com/2014/01/06/rumor-geno-provides-information-supposed-next-gen-pokemon-games-plus-minus)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
dualpixels.com said:
>GameFreak were one of the first development studios inside Nintendo to receive Alpha-Prototype hardware, now have been upgraded to the Beta-Prototype hardware above.
>Have a few areas marked out, TONS of concept art traveling between Pokemon Company and Nintendo Co Ltd.
>GameFreak plans to completely overhaul the basic systems of battle, simplifying the process.
>The development team is “going to put a lot of ideas they have wanted to do for years in this game”.
>Two versions already have code names, possibly final: Pokemon Plus and Pokemon Minus.
>Theme is “Old Tradition VS New Exploration”
>New region, no name yet, is based on South East Asia with one large peninsula and many smaller islands.
>Three new starters with no names: Water evolves into Water/Steel and is a squat, teardrop shaped humanoid that has a jar filled with on its head as it evolves it grows taller and the jar bigger until it needs another set of arms to hold it on it’s head. Fire evolves into Fire/Fairy and is a tiny cute goat with fire blowing out of its horns, it’s horns and look evolves more menacing until it has curly ram like horns and a motorcycle hot-rod-like look. Grass evolves into a Grass/Electric and starts with a leap for a face with a nubby root as a body and evolves until it grows into an electric producing palm tree with each flower petal having a different face.
>The main legendary for Pokemon Plus is a Shi Foo Lion-looking Psychic/Ground-type that has multiple faces, the Pokemon Minus legendary is a Ghost/Fairy type that has two dashes for eyes and is a hurricane-like appendages with many arms and hands.
>More traditional Pokemon-like gameplay will be on the Handheld controller while an all new gameplay aspect will be on the Terminal unit.
>The “Pokken Fighers” render that was teased was running on Alpha kits, Beta kits now have advance cell shading. Going for very detailed “living anime” look.
>The new “Team” villains are described as a bunch of “Sohei Zelots”-types who have discovered the player’s best friend as a reincarnation of a special type of person who only is alive every 100 years. They believe the old system where people were given a Pokemon egg and they stick to that Pokemon until they die and who’s function in society dictate what role that person is. They are against the “modern” trend of Pokemon Trainers and capturing multiple Pokemon and are making a holy pilgrimage to evoke the old Legendaries to turn everything back to normal. They keep the player away from their friend, saying the special one (who can do amazing things like mega evolve Pokemon without the use of a mega ring) only love is that of Pokemon and not people. It is planned to be reveal later that for the special one to fulfill their role in society they must be mortally sacrificed to awaken the legendaries.
>Routes connection the island together are water bridges but clumps of island are connected together by underwater tunnels.
>There is a “Stone Slowking” statue that is a parody of the Reclining Buddha at Wat Pho, Thailand.
>Many Pokemon from Hoenn and Sinnoh will make a return.
>Variety of Pokemon Gyms, one is a mail system that only uses flying types and focuses on sky battles. One only uses baby Pokemon, one is implied to be a real vampire and uses Ghost and Dark Pokemon. There is also a military like leader who uses Fire and Steel Pokemon.
>The island gameplay with Gym Leaders and the Elite Four island can be played entirely on the Handheld and can be blown up on the Terminal for home play.
>New Pokemon Type similar to Shinies, no details yet on how they work but I’ve been told they “change the game significantly”.
>The “Mainland” is an MMO-like environment that is exclusive to the Terminal and is shared by both versions.
>Players all over the world online can chat, trade, intermingle and experience new-updated story lines on the mainland.
>Pokemon Band is a new mechanic introduced to get people involved who do not battle, a co-operative experience where Pokemon dance and make music together to achieve the highest group score.
>Pokemon Bank are actual locations on the Mainland and Handheld areas where people can import past Pokemon, mainly from Pokemon X and Pokemon Y into the new game.
The guy they got the info from is supposedly the same guy who leaked Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and Castlevania: Mirrors of Fate HD but still, pinch of salt and all that
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 06, 2014, 10:10:42 pm
Hopefully But in the meantime, Have some Gen 7 rumours (http://dualpixels.com/2014/01/06/rumor-geno-provides-information-supposed-next-gen-pokemon-games-plus-minus)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
dualpixels.com said:
>GameFreak were one of the first development studios inside Nintendo to receive Alpha-Prototype hardware, now have been upgraded to the Beta-Prototype hardware above.
>Have a few areas marked out, TONS of concept art traveling between Pokemon Company and Nintendo Co Ltd.
>GameFreak plans to completely overhaul the basic systems of battle, simplifying the process.
>The development team is “going to put a lot of ideas they have wanted to do for years in this game”.
>Two versions already have code names, possibly final: Pokemon Plus and Pokemon Minus.
>Theme is “Old Tradition VS New Exploration”
>New region, no name yet, is based on South East Asia with one large peninsula and many smaller islands.
>Three new starters with no names: Water evolves into Water/Steel and is a squat, teardrop shaped humanoid that has a jar filled with on its head as it evolves it grows taller and the jar bigger until it needs another set of arms to hold it on it’s head. Fire evolves into Fire/Fairy and is a tiny cute goat with fire blowing out of its horns, it’s horns and look evolves more menacing until it has curly ram like horns and a motorcycle hot-rod-like look. Grass evolves into a Grass/Electric and starts with a leap for a face with a nubby root as a body and evolves until it grows into an electric producing palm tree with each flower petal having a different face.
>The main legendary for Pokemon Plus is a Shi Foo Lion-looking Psychic/Ground-type that has multiple faces, the Pokemon Minus legendary is a Ghost/Fairy type that has two dashes for eyes and is a hurricane-like appendages with many arms and hands.
>More traditional Pokemon-like gameplay will be on the Handheld controller while an all new gameplay aspect will be on the Terminal unit.
>The “Pokken Fighers” render that was teased was running on Alpha kits, Beta kits now have advance cell shading. Going for very detailed “living anime” look.
>The new “Team” villains are described as a bunch of “Sohei Zelots”-types who have discovered the player’s best friend as a reincarnation of a special type of person who only is alive every 100 years. They believe the old system where people were given a Pokemon egg and they stick to that Pokemon until they die and who’s function in society dictate what role that person is. They are against the “modern” trend of Pokemon Trainers and capturing multiple Pokemon and are making a holy pilgrimage to evoke the old Legendaries to turn everything back to normal. They keep the player away from their friend, saying the special one (who can do amazing things like mega evolve Pokemon without the use of a mega ring) only love is that of Pokemon and not people. It is planned to be reveal later that for the special one to fulfill their role in society they must be mortally sacrificed to awaken the legendaries.
>Routes connection the island together are water bridges but clumps of island are connected together by underwater tunnels.
>There is a “Stone Slowking” statue that is a parody of the Reclining Buddha at Wat Pho, Thailand.
>Many Pokemon from Hoenn and Sinnoh will make a return.
>Variety of Pokemon Gyms, one is a mail system that only uses flying types and focuses on sky battles. One only uses baby Pokemon, one is implied to be a real vampire and uses Ghost and Dark Pokemon. There is also a military like leader who uses Fire and Steel Pokemon.
>The island gameplay with Gym Leaders and the Elite Four island can be played entirely on the Handheld and can be blown up on the Terminal for home play.
>New Pokemon Type similar to Shinies, no details yet on how they work but I’ve been told they “change the game significantly”.
>The “Mainland” is an MMO-like environment that is exclusive to the Terminal and is shared by both versions.
>Players all over the world online can chat, trade, intermingle and experience new-updated story lines on the mainland.
>Pokemon Band is a new mechanic introduced to get people involved who do not battle, a co-operative experience where Pokemon dance and make music together to achieve the highest group score.
>Pokemon Bank are actual locations on the Mainland and Handheld areas where people can import past Pokemon, mainly from Pokemon X and Pokemon Y into the new game.
The guy they got the info from is supposedly the same guy who leaked Kingdom Hearts 1.5 and Castlevania: Mirrors of Fate HD but still, pinch of salt and all that
Pokemon Plus?
Pokemon Minus?
So, either the Pokemon Plusle and Minun are: - Going to be on the front cover - Finally receiving evolutionary forms.
Or the company is just making up BS now, rather than sticking with colors or letters for generations.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 06, 2014, 10:55:30 pm
So, either the Pokemon Plusle and Minun are: - Going to be on the front cover - Finally receiving evolutionary forms.
Or the company is just making up BS now, rather than sticking with colors or letters for generations.
Notice closely how those are code names. As in: not the final names. They're still in the planning stages. Nothing is final. Etc.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 07, 2014, 05:45:55 am
Given the fact that the 20th anniversary is around the horizon, I can defiantly expect something like Gen 7 to happen. In the meantime there's still the third version and the potential Hoenn remake to fill up the years.
Hell, Gen 6 is not even out for a year and people are talking about gen 7?!
What is wrong with people?
Either gamefreak/Nintendo likes to rush things now like what they did with the transition from Black 2 & White 2 to X & Y, or they finally saw how much they dropped the ball this gen that, rather than releasing a patch for the game to fix balance issues, are starting a new Gen instead.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on January 07, 2014, 03:07:41 pm
That Gen 7 talk is just as likely to be fake as it is to be real. Gen 6 came out only a few months ago, I doubt they would already be this ahead in planning and making Gen 7 :P
Posted: January 07, 2014, 03:08:55 pm Also, GameFreak seems to be running out of colors.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 07, 2014, 05:24:12 pm
Also, GameFreak seems to be running out of colors.
Will Gamefreak ever buy a color table chart? Will Alakazam ever be smart enough to learn 5 moves? Find out next time on POKEMON Z!!!!
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
The horrible DBZ puns are reason enough for Nintendo NOT to want to make a Z version
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on January 07, 2014, 06:06:41 pm
Those games came out two years after BW1 though? A lot of the development team that didn't work on BW2 are credited on XY, which came out 3 years after BW1. I'm not saying they're completely predictable (B/W2 weren't) but they're also very good at making the most of old assets in a new package. It's a lot to take in for a project that must be in very early production stages.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on January 07, 2014, 06:37:25 pm
Silly RP, the extra games in a gen almost always come out when the system is going under. Yellow came out when the GBC was out, Crystal with the GBA, Emerald with the DS, B2/W2 with the 3DS, only Platinum wasn't on a dying system.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on January 07, 2014, 06:43:58 pm
Silly RP, the extra games in a gen almost always come out when the system is going under. Yellow came out when the GBC was out, Crystal with the GBA, Emerald with the DS, B2/W2 with the 3DS, only Platinum wasn't on a dying system.
good point...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on January 07, 2014, 07:10:54 pm
You can probably call that on the differences in the market for releasing new consoles between the 2000s and today. I think the 3DS will stick around for a while again so it remains to be seen what the production schedule is for big games like Pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on January 08, 2014, 05:53:27 pm
So, how rare are High Plains Vivillon, and how does it determine where you are in the world cus I lied and said I was in Alberta to dodge sales tax.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 08, 2014, 08:02:02 pm
Your 3DS' region settings, I think.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 09, 2014, 07:24:47 am
Any ideas of what to do with a Timid Protean Toxic Spikes Froakie? I got one over Wonder Trade and don't want it to go to waste. I was thinking of running Shadow Sneak on it to spinblock and do Protean shenanigans.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 09, 2014, 07:30:07 am
Can be an interesting lead, sounds really interesting actually. I´m not sure about Shadow Sneak thought, could be interesting but sounds too gimmicky, you could put a spinblocker (aka any Ghost in the entire dex) and go along with it. But what object should be attached to it??
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 09, 2014, 07:31:34 am
If it's a lead, then Focus Sash. I can pretty much guarantee two layers of them with it. Though not all of my teams will have an adequate spinblocker, which is why I'm considering Shadow Sneak.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 09, 2014, 07:40:35 am
Sounds quite 50/50. I could only say to go ahead and try for yourself, there is the fun is trying new sets & strategies. Sounds interesting none the less.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 09, 2014, 07:45:40 am
Yeah. It's an interesting thing to try especially since my friend's been running a mixed set with Scald/Dark Pulse/Water Shuriken/Shadow Sneak. It's pretty annoying to deal with, believe me. I like running the occasional gimmick anyways.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Maekron on January 09, 2014, 11:06:51 pm
I just started a sun team and wanted to know what you guys think - don't take it too seriously though, I don't play too much. RF4W-WWWW-WWW4-ER8C
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 09, 2014, 11:13:11 pm
I'm not getting answers anywhere else so: (https://24.media.tumblr.com/d31ae8f97fc74d938eafefe4bda73c0c/tumblr_mz5mexrYod1sp67eqo1_400.jpg) Hacked or legit?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 10, 2014, 02:31:56 am
I can't tell if its IVs are all perfect because you aren't showing the characteristic or using the reset bag and taking a shot of what it subtracts to reveal the EV distribution.
The ability and moves are possible on a Meowth though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: drewski90 on January 10, 2014, 02:36:41 am
guys, I just officially got pokemon X, I started out with a frog because of ninjas
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 10, 2014, 03:08:58 am
I'm not getting answers anywhere else so: https://24.media.tumblr.com/d31ae8f97fc74d938eafefe4bda73c0c/tumblr_mz5mexrYod1sp67eqo1_400.jpg Hacked or legit?
It uses 252 EV on HP and speed (max stats capable on both) but I don´t know about the rest of the stats. They can randomly grow at times. Difficult to know with just an image.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 10, 2014, 05:26:28 am
Any ideas of what to do with a Timid Protean Toxic Spikes Froakie? I got one over Wonder Trade and don't want it to go to waste. I was thinking of running Shadow Sneak on it to spinblock and do Protean shenanigans.
U-Turn is what I go for. I kinda wish it had Naive or Hasty but my plan is set up Toxic Spikes and get out of there safely. Surf or Hydro Pump and either Ice Beam or Dark Pulse would be my choices for offense moves.
I'm not getting answers anywhere else so: (https://24.media.tumblr.com/d31ae8f97fc74d938eafefe4bda73c0c/tumblr_mz5mexrYod1sp67eqo1_400.jpg) Hacked or legit?
With an ID and trainer number like that as well as it was ported from Pokemon Bank makes me believe that's hacked.
If that's from your game, go check its IVs from the Pokemon Center judge in Kiloude City.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 10, 2014, 05:43:24 am
U-Turn is what I go for. I kinda wish it had Naive or Hasty but my plan is set up Toxic Spikes and get out of there safely. Surf or Hydro Pump and either Ice Beam or Dark Pulse would be my choices for offense moves.
So something like: -Toxic Spikes -U-Turn -Water Move of choice -Dark Pulse/Ice Beam is what you're suggesting? I'm still kinda considering Shadow Sneak, but I see what you're going for. The idea of spinblocking with Greninja is just too funny.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
That and its attack isn't that high anyways, so the extra bulk afforded from a not Timid/Naive nature is always handy.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 10, 2014, 05:47:58 am
One of my Greninjas has Toxic Spikes + U-Turn with the plan of setting up and getting out, but I haven't considered adding Sneak to the mix since I feel he loses some offense and coverage. Shadow Sneak works in a more physical movepool though especially with Power-Up Punch and Waterfall/Shuriken. And also frustrates Spinners that way.
Maybe Sneak and Spikes Ground could be interesting.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 10, 2014, 05:51:46 am
I'd probably only use Sneak to frustrate spinners and land revenge kills on speed-boosted sweepers. Still an idea if offense isn't all that I want from it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 10, 2014, 08:03:35 pm
Trying to get into Doubles, and was thinking of trying to build a sun team with Eruption Typhlosion now that hes legal in Gen 6. Was considering using him in conjunction with a Whimsicott with Taunt, Tailwind, and Sunny Day, but cant decide if I want to use Mega Zard Y or Ninetails for initial sun setting. Im also at a loss for what other Pokes would work well in a doubles sun team.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 11, 2014, 01:00:00 am
MegaZard Y hits pretty hard and can learn Heat Wave (but so can Ninetales but WHATEVER) and I don't know many other megas that would benefit from the sun aside from the obvious MegaZard X.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 11, 2014, 01:04:31 am
Any grass type would benefit heavily with sun. How sad is that building a rain team requires no brain cells while a sun one requires some wise thinking. I heard that in doubles entry hazards are pretty uncommon so I would go with MegaCharizard Y for the sun setup. So you got Typhlosion, Whimsicott and Charizard. 3 more to go. A normal Venasaur comes to mind or anyone with Chlorophyll could fill a spot.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 11, 2014, 06:28:55 am
I just did a Ghost-only 6v6 Singles battle with one of my friends. It was really intense.
VDBG-WWWW-WWW4-GX4A
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on January 12, 2014, 11:49:04 pm
For a sun team I'd recommend MegaZard Y over Ninetales because of the offensive movepool. My MegaZard Y has Air Slash, Solar Beam, HP Fighting, and Flamethrower (Heat Wave in doubles). I'm having a hard time finding a situation I can't handle, but I'm considering changing something for Dragon Pulse. As for teammates, Chlorophyll Venusaur works splendidly. May sound quite odd but Solar Power Tropius also works well with MegaZard Y in doubles, as does Chlorophyll Tropius if you're using the right set
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 13, 2014, 02:59:50 am
For a sun team:
- MegaZard Y in general. For setupping the sun. - Chlorophyll Venasaur with Growth. - Solar Power Tropius, like Shadow0X3 suggested. - Chlorophyll Leafeaon. Its movepool is lacking but with Chrolophyll this thing can surpass any Choice Scarf user in the sun, and can learn Swords Dance. Thought not more. This is more like if you´re feeling a little creative.
Not sure what else.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 13, 2014, 03:10:56 am
Or Harvest with a Sitrus Berry if you want to try stalling a bit since Harvest guarantees a berry back at the end of every turn if sun is up.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Knuckles8864 on January 13, 2014, 04:07:26 am
You could use Trevenant with Harvest for physical attack. Ninetales is also a good choice since it has access to Drought, and moves like Energy Ball.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on January 13, 2014, 04:35:26 am
Ninetales is great if you wanna use it in conjunction with Mega Houndoom.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on January 13, 2014, 04:37:27 am
i like that tropius idea as a shocker. cause nobody really uses him...:(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 13, 2014, 05:14:38 pm
Has anyone got any Pokebank legendaries that they could trade me for the dex entries I'll trade them back straight away of course. I just need the entries.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 13, 2014, 07:13:42 pm
I did. I mean, I still have two, but I've been trading them around for other legendaries. Managed to have Kyurem and Zekrom/Reshiram at the same time, so I have Black and White Kyurem's formes under Kyurem's dex entry.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 13, 2014, 07:45:45 pm
Nice The lack of Pokebank is making it hard for me to complete my living dex.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 13, 2014, 10:37:04 pm
Currently, I have a Virizion and a Cobalion. Virizion is on the GTS waiting to be traded for a Thundurus.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 14, 2014, 07:25:08 am
2EJG-WWWW-WWW4-J8LZ
random match with a surprisingly good japanese UU-RU player. Even after screwing up the play with Garchomp I still ended up winning 2-1. Ended up getting a 5 IV Misdreavus after the match too.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on January 14, 2014, 07:30:27 am
thats a nice pokemon prize for winning rice! i would like to battle u someday
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Knuckles8864 on January 15, 2014, 09:12:38 am
Might someone friend me and tell me what kind of Friend Safari I have? I haven't beaten the Elite Four yet, but I would like to honestly know what I have.
Friend code: 4210-4214-3999
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 15, 2014, 02:12:43 pm
If you haven't beaten the Elite 4, then the third Pokémon is going to be absent.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on January 15, 2014, 03:17:49 pm
Ah, nice to know.
Maybe I'll check the friend safari to see what has changed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 15, 2014, 05:24:30 pm
Thought I posted this here already but I guess not...
Battle with Matt:
ERYG-WWWW-WWW4-JQUG
Finally got to face him in singles. Gotta love those entry hazards.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 15, 2014, 07:17:57 pm
I just started a sun team and wanted to know what you guys think - don't take it too seriously though, I don't play too much. RF4W-WWWW-WWW4-ER8C
Well you may want to give Ninetales only one Fire move instead of two. Like give it Hidden Power, Solarbeam, Will-o-wisp-, etc, Same goes for Venusaur. Stay with either Giga Drain or Solarbeam. And maybe you should give Sunny Day to Umbreon for a surprise.
Other than that, pretty solid.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 15, 2014, 11:28:29 pm
Don't worry, now that I'm actually building my Doubles Team next time it'll be on your home court.
...and yet you beat me with your singles team. Yeah :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 15, 2014, 11:33:14 pm
Anybody got a Prankster Sableye they could give me? I'm looking to vary my Ghosts a bit.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 16, 2014, 02:32:59 am
I'm still brainstorming an OU team centered around toxic spikes. It's kinda tricky since I dabbled primarily with Ubers and Neverused, with my main taste of OU gameplay being Haxorus just Outraging through just about everything in the battle subway. Tentacruel is definitely a given to me, as well as Gengar perhaps. Probably Magnezone to trap those irksome steel types that won't be affected by the toxic spikes...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 16, 2014, 02:54:53 am
More monotype Ghost funtimes:
RFNG-WWWW-WWW4-KKYH GBJW-WWWW-WWW4-KKYZ
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 16, 2014, 05:30:55 pm
I just started a sun team and wanted to know what you guys think - don't take it too seriously though, I don't play too much. RF4W-WWWW-WWW4-ER8C
Well you may want to give Ninetales only one Fire move instead of two. Like give it Hidden Power, Solarbeam, Will-o-wisp-, etc, Same goes for Venusaur. Stay with either Giga Drain or Solarbeam. And maybe you should give Sunny Day to Umbreon for a surprise.
Other than that, pretty solid.
Yeah, I didn't know what I'd like to give to Ninetails, so it still had 2 Fire Moves and was even lacking Solar beam. I don't know what type its HP would have and as I still have Extrasensory, I will probably switch it for Psyshock. Maybe I'll look into some of the advice given on sun teams and try out tropius or leafion. I also have an unburden Treecko I might give a try - you think it might be good here?
btw thanks for all the advice - I'm still pretty green in this game :llama:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on January 18, 2014, 03:28:05 am
So what have you guys been breeding? Btw if anybody has a magic guard Abra hit me up.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 18, 2014, 04:40:24 am
Stuff needed for Double Battles. Even got a Shiny Bisharp out of it that I had grind for 200 BP in order to change to Defaint.
I'm looking for something that's breedable with Foongus and has 0-Speed IV. Ditto helps too.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 18, 2014, 05:03:29 am
When Pokebank finally happens on feburary 29th somehow there will be much breeding on my end.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 18, 2014, 07:29:27 am
So I managed to get someone with a Ditto in their Friend Safari so if anyone needs any feel free to let me know.
In the meantime, mostly breeding Whimsicotts for Doubles and Riolus for singles.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 18, 2014, 09:36:18 am
What are you going for on the Riolus? I'm in the market for a potential Mega Lucario candidate.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 18, 2014, 12:36:16 pm
What are you going for on the Riolus? I'm in the market for a potential Mega Lucario candidate.
Going for both Jolly and Timid for physical and special, respectively. Egg moves of course are included on both (Vaccuum Wave, Crunch, and Bullet Punch)
Versus random OU Sun team which certainly kept me on my toes
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 19, 2014, 01:22:30 am
What. The. Shit?
I just hatched a shiny Brave Bergmite with max HP, Attack, Defense and Sp. Defense.
I was not Masuda Methoding, and didn't have a Brave Ditto holding an Everstone in the Day Care; I was just trying to get rid of the Ultra Ball. This kind of luck doesn't happen to me :'D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 19, 2014, 03:08:04 am
All you lucky people. I probably spent all my luck when I got that Imposter Ditto with a perfect HP IV from wonder trade some time ago.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on January 19, 2014, 03:11:54 am
I spent mine with the Max defense IV Sturdy Aggron whose defense value is so large it breaks the grid. And that Torchic I got with max IVs from wonder Trade, and like, 50 Charmander (Was there a Charmander raid put into Wonder Trade or something cus fuckin hell more of them then flabebe's now).
Never gonna get a Shiny though :<
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 19, 2014, 10:04:27 am
Guess that's just an example of my life balance.
-Had a really good day, come home to find lethal virus on laptop.
-Got banned for vandalizing when I hadn't vandalized anything, get shiny Bergmite with everything I need on it through absolute fluke.
:)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on January 19, 2014, 12:06:06 pm
-Had a really good day, come home to find lethal virus on laptop.
-Got banned for vandalizing when I hadn't vandalized anything, get shiny Bergmite with everything I need on it through absolute fluke.
:)
Circle of life right there.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 19, 2014, 01:59:31 pm
[askingagainbecausewhynot]Does anybody have a Prankster Sableye (preferably with Recover) that I could possibly get my hands on?[/askingagainbecausewhynot]
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 19, 2014, 04:55:41 pm
Not giving away your team there, eh? :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 19, 2014, 08:11:27 pm
I'm really mix/match with my teams, anyways. What I use for one person isn't always what I'll use for another person.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 19, 2014, 10:47:35 pm
I've got one CAN Add me on 5258 0091 2112
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 19, 2014, 10:49:50 pm
Nevermind on that. A friend just gave me one. And I thought I already added both of your FCs so far. :V
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 19, 2014, 10:51:21 pm
You did. This is my brothers fc. I'm borrowing his 3DS while mines being repaired But at least you got it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 19, 2014, 10:56:25 pm
Oh okay. I've got way too much stuff to train and breed for my own good.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 20, 2014, 02:05:36 am
QRKW-WWWW-WWW4-ZKTK
Another OU match and holy crap Gliscor gave me so much problems.
Guy was gonna give me an Oshawott after the match but then... server maintenance.. :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 20, 2014, 02:28:05 am
A little explanation in here... what do you mean by a pokemon with a max IV??
How does that work?? It does affect the pokemon development?? How so?? It is truly important to reach max stats?? Pls.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 20, 2014, 02:36:14 am
IVs are something determined at a Pokemon's birth. Basically, the higher the IV, the higher the respective stat will go. For example, a 31 IV (max IV) in attack will result in a higher attack stat than with 0 IVs. They're unrelated to EVs so that investment doesn't matter.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Or just read this. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Individual_values)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 20, 2014, 02:54:46 am
Speaking of IVs, all this tying up loose ends in preperation for the big transfer on feburary 29nth (somehow) really makes me miss legendary pokemon having 31 IVs in 3 stats. It's already bad enough that Giratina is easily the hardest legendary pokemon to catch in the entire series.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 20, 2014, 08:35:36 am
Another OU match and holy crap Gliscor gave me so much problems.
Guy was gonna give me an Oshawott after the match but then... server maintenance.. :(
I could give you an Oshawott if you want. Can't guarantee any max IVs and whatnot because I wouldn't go to that effort for a Samurott :/ Unless you want me to specifically breed you one with certain IVs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 20, 2014, 08:43:52 am
Or just read this. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Individual_values)
I still don´t get it. If something, I´m even more confused...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 20, 2014, 08:51:54 am
They're stupid little numbers that you can't change that make a Pokemon's stats higher or lower. That's as simple an explanation I can think of.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 20, 2014, 08:54:53 am
But that doesn´t tell me what many people want max IV on whatever they want to have it to when EV are a completely different story or a poke with a beneficial nature won´t suffice... mmm...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 20, 2014, 09:09:07 am
Because max IVs net better stats. Max attack IV = better attack stat. It's usually best to have max IVs in every stat except for the attacking stat that your specific set doesn't use.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 20, 2014, 09:17:03 am
mmm... but I will need to achieve the maximum stat in whatever poke or just for a better stat distribution?? how do you even recognize a poke with max IV?? Questions, questions...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 20, 2014, 09:27:08 am
There's a stat judge in Kiloude City's Pokemon Center who judges IVs. If he lists any stats and then says the stats "can't be beat," those stats have perfect IVs. The IVs are needed for the best possible stats, but they're a real pain in the ass even with Friend Safaris giving off Pokemon with a guaranteed 2-3 max IVs each.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 20, 2014, 10:01:42 am
mmm... this certainly got way more complicated. Some bastards are lucky with this, huh? Consulting that judge won´t be possible, cause you know... I don´t have a 3DS. I´ve been following footage, seeing battles and drawing conclusions based on those :P
Thanks for the answers and the patience. Guess I´ll have to see this in 4th and 5th generation and try to be a lucky man.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 20, 2014, 10:06:22 am
They're far more difficult to deal with in 4th/5th gen. I'd just go for RNG abuse instead if you want perfect mons in those games.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 20, 2014, 10:11:08 am
6th gen certainly made breeding way more fun and simpler, let´s not forget friend safari. My patience knows no limits so I´ll fine trying to get some f****** max IV on what I want (I hope).
Leaving thread.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 20, 2014, 10:18:05 am
The only issue remaining are gen 4/5 legendaries, which have no guarantee of any max IVs. At least with Gen 6, you're guaranteed a minimum of 3 max IVs, but 3 max IVs is only 3 max IVs, especially if two of them are the important ones you need (mainly speed).
But yeah, a 5 IV Pokemon can be obtained through breeding within a reasonable time, unlike Gen 4 & 5, where the mechanics are the same with the exception of Destiny Knot, so you can only pass 3 IVs max (unless youre playing Diamond or Pearl, in which case IVs passed from the parents can overwrite each other, so you'll only end up with 2 IVs being passed down or, if you're really unlucky with the IV overwriting, only 1 IV)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 20, 2014, 10:24:24 am
I got a Timid Moltres in Platinum (hell yeah!) so this will be the test to try that IV calculator and see how that ends... tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 21, 2014, 05:58:02 am
mmm... this certainly got way more complicated. Some bastards are lucky with this, huh? Consulting that judge won´t be possible, cause you know... I don´t have a 3DS. I´ve been following footage, seeing battles and drawing conclusions based on those :P
I remember a decade ago when learning about IVs. It was a real headache I can tell you that. Took me about a couple of months in early simulator days to full get the concept noted. Fun times.
Then there's the "RNG" which unless you're super-serious in battling should be avoided. Of course it's dead in Gen IV due to the system being more easy in getting flawless IVs.
Anyways I finally got a 0-Speed IV Mon for chain breeding but I luckily nabbed a 2-Speed IV Foongus. Battle wise this gives me an advantage outside Trick Room usage by having Amoonguss outspeed by 1 Point and to avoid Speed ties with the likes of -Speed Slowbro. The problem was having to chain breed pass, but somehow I got the hang of it and now I rebuilt my VGC '14 for the fourth time.
Even made a 1700+ JPN trainer rage quit during battle. Ph33r m3.
And now comes another stressing part. Getting Hidden Power Ice on Manectric.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on January 21, 2014, 12:45:48 pm
mmm... this certainly got way more complicated. Some bastards are lucky with this, huh? Consulting that judge won´t be possible, cause you know... I don´t have a 3DS. I´ve been following footage, seeing battles and drawing conclusions based on those :P
Thanks for the answers and the patience. Guess I´ll have to see this in 4th and 5th generation and try to be a lucky man.
What? I thought you did from your depth of your posts :pwn:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 22, 2014, 03:11:37 am
Well the whole IV thing seems easier nowadays and doesn't require too much complex stuff. Not like how it was in Gen III.....
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 22, 2014, 03:17:43 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on January 22, 2014, 10:58:08 am
Mega f-ing Gigalith }:<
Also, Gen IV and V had IV judges (not counting Diamond and Pearl). In Gen IV, he was in the Battle Tower, whereas in Gen V, he was in the Battle Subway. Alternatively, use Veekun's IV calculator :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 22, 2014, 07:22:09 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 23, 2014, 03:56:13 pm
Pokebank is now out in South Korea (https://twitter.com/intent/user?original_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fbulbapedia.bulbagarden.net%2Fwiki%2FMain_Page&profile_id=585258622&screen_name=BulbaNewsNOW&tw_i=425817844656271360&tw_p=embeddedtimeline&tw_w=344723092544827392) Posted: January 23, 2014, 07:29:05 pm And Pokebank's hack detection mechanisms are still a laughable joke (http://www.examiner.com/article/concerns-over-pokebank-security-still-looming)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 24, 2014, 02:16:44 pm
Lv.100 Arceus and Shiny Mew are possible (any Arceus below Lv.100 is a hack but it ain't a big deal). Lv.1 Gengar though, humorous. Next thing I'll hear is Pokemon with Gen 3 tutor moves are hacks.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 24, 2014, 04:06:16 pm
I thought the only legit way to get Mew was from an event, though?
EDIT: nevermind, forgot about japanese Emerald. Other than that, yeah, an english language shiny Mew shouldn't be possible afaik.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 24, 2014, 04:09:37 pm
There was an Emerald event where you could catch Mew But the item only got released in Japan (something to do with the eReader I believe) So Shiny Mew is possible. But only a Japanese one. Other languages are hacked.
And yes there was a Mew event in HGSS.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 25, 2014, 03:47:49 pm
The Old Sea Map was distributed via game cartridge much like how tickets for Deoxys and Ho-oh/Lugia were in Fire Red and Leaf Green back in 2004 in official events.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on January 25, 2014, 04:00:58 pm
im waiting for mew's mega evolve...like a flying pink persian...lmao
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on January 25, 2014, 05:24:44 pm
The Old Sea Map was distributed via game cartridge much like how tickets for Deoxys and Ho-oh/Lugia were in Fire Red and Leaf Green back in 2004 in official events.
Oh. Nevermind the eReader stuff then. Point still stands though. English language Shiny Mew is illegal.
I swear the eReader was used for an event though.
Edit: It was used for an Eon Ticket event according to Bulbapedia. My bad.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 25, 2014, 08:54:54 pm
Caught a shiny Ghastly in pearl today. Once it becomes Gengar I will have two of my favorite pokemon in shiny form. :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 26, 2014, 06:36:24 am
I did a really fun session of battles with one of my friends a little while ago. I think she can sum this particular battle up rather well:
Quote
HOLY CRAP THOSE SPPONS ARE AWESOME OMG LOOK AT THE SPOONS XDDDDD
2PWW-WWWW-WWW4-UCYX
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Arcanine normally does better against her Blaziken, but he proved really awesome in the other battles. He's a keeper.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: KojiroBADNESS on January 26, 2014, 12:08:02 pm
I wish they would hurry the hell up with this Pokebank already so I can make some worth while trades...
Anyway, I'm looking for some Friend Safari Ditto's, so if anyone has them please lemme know. My FC is posted in the Friend code thread.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on January 26, 2014, 07:48:24 pm
See my posts on the FC list. I believe I have one. ;)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 26, 2014, 07:55:53 pm
N-Mario, could you add me? I also got your FC on my list for friend safari.
Also, I am FREAKING RELIEVED I got myself a fantastic Rotom-W with 5IVs after breeding with a two-31IV Ditto. This was the most stressing part seeing as we will never get Pokemon Bank for a flawless Ditto. Nevertheless this was a lifesaver in Battle Spot Special that I needed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 26, 2014, 07:55:54 pm
See my posts on the FC list. I believe I have one. ;)
I just added you. Thanks a ton, Ol' friend! :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on January 26, 2014, 09:17:51 pm
Tried to see what WT is/does. Hoping to see if it would allow me to search for others not in Kalos. Turned power off, still traded, got something I already had captured in box1. *&%@*$! I screwed up. :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 26, 2014, 09:25:22 pm
Yo, mind getting online if at all possible? I gotta be online at the same time as you to see your third slot. Just the once is all I need.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on January 26, 2014, 10:01:16 pm
I thought my 3DS just had to be in sleep mode for it to work. When you say online, does that mean I have to go in to the game, and put the game on online?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 26, 2014, 10:06:01 pm
Yes. Sleep mode disconnects you. BTW thanks for getting online. I'll have to go farm Dittos later. EDIT: I can't decide between Adamant or Jolly for a Mold Breaker Rapid Spinning Excadrill.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 27, 2014, 03:16:37 am
Unless you have Sand planned for your team, I would go for Adamant for a bit of some extra power against Rotoms.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 27, 2014, 03:20:28 am
Point taken. I guess the base 88 Speed is kind of a put-off even with my planned investment shooting for bulk.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 27, 2014, 03:35:18 am
Bulk for Excadrill?? Oh yeah, I forgot of that amazingly huge HP stat but still that thing can get easily 2HitKoed. What are your plans for that?? Going with the famous Bulky Rapid Spin set from 5th gen??
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 27, 2014, 03:39:18 am
Yeah, going for the bulky Rapid Spin set from Gen 5.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 27, 2014, 07:15:11 pm
Dunno if this influences your decision but...
60 Attack Jolly Excadrill Earthquake vs 252 HP 252 Def Bold Rotom-W:
204-240 (67.11%~78.95%) (Guaranteed 2HKO)
60 Attack Adamant Excadrill Earthquake vs 252 HP 252 Def Bold Rotom-W:
224-264 (73.68%~86.84%) (Guaranteed 2HKO)
A minimum of 76 Attack EVs with Adamant would let you OHKO Rotom at least 6.67% of the time after Stealth Rock damage.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 28, 2014, 12:59:23 am
Yeah, go for 76 Atk / 160 HP/ 252 SpD and the rest for speed. Is almost the same as the classic bulky rapid spin just that hits considerably harder and slightly slower.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 28, 2014, 01:07:02 am
A minimum of 76 Attack EVs with Adamant would let you OHKO Rotom at least 6.67% of the time after Stealth Rock damage.
I plan on running it with a SRing Ferrothorn, so that'll certainly help. EDIT: I dunno about going 76 EVs though. A bit of extra speed sounds good and I might be Swords Dancing with it anyways. Could you do those calcs with 60 EVs?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 28, 2014, 06:39:56 am
But he already did the calculations for 60 EV in attack?? Or the calculations after Swords Dance, which are obviously a one hit KO??
If you´ll be Swords Dancing then keep the investment at a minimum of 60 EV on attack then. Invest 168 in HP and the rest put on speed then.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 28, 2014, 06:42:00 am
I misread and I've already decided on a bulkier investment of 176 HP / 52 Atk / 80 Def / 202 SpDef. Currently EV training the thing because it took until just an hour ago to properly breed myself one with the IVs and everything I wanted.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 29, 2014, 05:40:56 am
I told you guys. I told you about the Pokebank. It keeps happening,
Also rumors are flying around that the delay is in part due to Nintendo preparing to take legal action against Pokecheck now that they've hacked the 3ds and are adding gen 6 support as I'm typing this. (https://www.pokecheck.org/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on January 29, 2014, 05:47:51 am
all these fucking delays!!!! i think they just want Japan to be superior to the world...tournament wise. its not fair they get access and nobody else does.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 29, 2014, 05:59:15 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 29, 2014, 06:06:31 am
At this point they could just say that they won´t be releasing this and that you can´t get your Gale Wings Talonflame just because... but really, this was really badly planned, is not just the delay but the server crashes due to buttload of activity.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on January 29, 2014, 06:12:26 am
At this point they could just say that they won´t be releasing this and that you can´t get your Gale Wings Talonflame just because... but really, this was really badly planned, is not just the delay but the server crashes due to buttload of activity.
agreed.....they should just make an update that'll let u encounter all the rest of them....at least we would have the ENTIRE roster to work with.
so much for my perfect togekiss...sigh*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 29, 2014, 03:20:50 pm
Considering how easy it is to breed flawless IV Pokemon this gen, any reason why breeding a Togekiss is out of the question, aside from Heat Wave (of which it can use FireBlast), Heal Bell, and Tailwind tutors?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on January 29, 2014, 03:24:44 pm
remember togekiss ability is hard to get . Mine ALWAYS gets that STUPID @#@!#!#@! Hustle ability....@#@!#@!#@! I WANT SERENE GRACE!!!!!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 29, 2014, 05:51:36 pm
remember togekiss ability is hard to get . Mine ALWAYS gets that STUPID @#@!#!#@! Hustle ability....@#@!#@!#@! I WANT SERENE GRACE!!!!!
You know you can just use the Ability Capsule from the Battle Maison, right?
Also if you're breeding them and keep getting Togepi with Hustle, it's probably because you're using a female Togetic/kiss with Hustle as the mother. Offspring have an 80% chance of inheriting the mother's ability now as long as its not the Hidden Ability.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 29, 2014, 09:29:31 pm
Yeah, breeding mechanics this gen that be really helpful but can cause you trouble if you´re doing something wrong. Just try to get a Togepi with Serene Grace and breed that one, if it has good IVs even better.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 29, 2014, 10:10:04 pm
Or breed the Hustle parent with Ditto. Iirc, the 80% chance of passing non-hidden abilities only applies if neither parent is Ditto, otherwise its the standard 50-50 split.
Also, as I was telling Xan last night, if you have two 4IV parents with the nature you want, getting a 5IV offspring with the intended nature is actually faster to get by using Destiny Knot + Power Item on the two 4IV parents and then breed the resulting 5IV child with one of 4IV parents using Destiny Knot + Everstone. Supposedly this only works if both parents have the nature you want, which shouldn't be too big of an issue unless you're breeding genderless or male/female-only Pokemon, and trying to do this with a 4IV parent and a 3IV parent only slows the process down.
I might try this, as I have horrible luck getting a 5IV child using DK + Everstone using two 4IV parents. Posted: January 30, 2014, 05:19:02 pm After breeding some 5IV Timid and Jolly Riolu for Can and myself, I have a few 4IV & 5IV ones left over if anyone wants one. Comes with Bullet Punch, Vacuum Wave, and (on jolly ones) Crunch in case anyone was wondering about egg moves.
Speaking of Riolu, looks like MegaLucario is finally getting the banhammer. Genesect too. (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/xy-suspect-testing-round-1-np-michael-jackson-extreme-speed-demon.3498655/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 30, 2014, 07:24:28 pm
And I shed no tears. Especially not for Mega Lucario. Like, only being able to hold lucarionite is a small price to pay when Adaptability ensures that you will 1-2 hit kill just about everything in OU including walls.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 30, 2014, 08:10:17 pm
Physical MegaLucario has more counters than the special set, but that doesn't mean its not broken. Its the fact that MegaLucario can run either a physical or special (and in some cases, mixed) and utilize both with insane efficiency to the point where the list of Pokemon that can effectively counter both sets is narrowed down to literally only three Pokemon: Zapdos, Moltres, and Bulky Gyarados, all three of which are weak to Stealth Rock, and in Zapdos's case needs to be holding Life Orb WITH near max physical defense investment and bold in order to both survive any attack MegaLucario can throw at it and deliver a guaranteed OHKO back with Heat Wave.
Otherwise it becomes a 50/50 guessing game as to whether MegaLucario is physical or special, which usually ends up with you having to sacrifice one of your Pokemon which means that MegaLucario has already done its job.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 30, 2014, 08:44:27 pm
Considering Stealth Rock is making sense to ban that. MegaLucario is a monster mainly because you would need to guess if it is Physical attack or Special Attack probably sacrificing one of your pokes in the process, as stated. Adaptability is just the icing in the cake. It is frail but extremely strong with a huge movelist and possibilities.
Agreed. BANHAMMER.
And this is why I think Mega Evolutions are silly: Most of the pokes don´t need it cause they are already too strong or turning into a Mega have their disadvantages, or end up being too broken. Poor creatures waiting (& needing) a mega evolution just to be useful but GameFreak just won´t look at them. How sad.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on January 30, 2014, 08:54:00 pm
And this is why I think Mega Evolutions are silly: Most of the pokes don´t need it cause they are already too strong or turning into a Mega have their disadvantages, or end up being too broken. Poor creatures waiting (& needing) a mega evolution just to be useful but GameFreak just won´t look at them. How sad.
Well, most of the mega evolutions are for some of the most popular and iconic pokemon including the super pushed as is pokemon like Lucario.
To be fair though, a lot of mega evolutions are legitimately interesting such as Mega Banette, Mega Heracross, and Mega Mawile.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 30, 2014, 09:12:12 pm
Forgot to mention this in the last post, but the fact that MegaLucario has base 112 speed doesn't help its case either. It allows it to patch up the 90 base speed that Life Orb Lucario still has, to the point where there is honestly no reason to use normal Lucario unless you're running another Mega on your team and absolutely want a Lucario for whatever reason, as you have all the advantages of normal Lucario with none of its weaknesses aside from frailty, which is counteracted by the fact that its Close Combat can hit much MUCH harder. Hell, I feel that normal Lucario may actually drop to UU once its Mega gets the axe.
Oh and Genesect is just as braindead competitively as it was last gen, albeit losing two resistances and having more checks. I'm actually sort of seeing Deoxys-S remaining unbanned this gen with its relative frailty, inability to hit hard, and the overabundance of priority attacks and virtual extinction of suicide leads thanks to Defog.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 31, 2014, 03:04:13 am
I can definitely attest that Special MegaLuke is more dangerous. From what I know, outside of Move Tutor shenanigans, Lucario has a better special movelist than physical anyways.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 31, 2014, 05:08:39 am
Viable Special attacks: Aura Sphere, Vacuum Wave, Shadow Ball, Dark Pulse, Flash Cannon, Hidden Power (Ice) Viable Physical attacks: Close Combat, Extremespeed, Bullet Punch, Crunch, Ice Punch, Iron Head
... its about the same if you ask me. At least as far as moves you're likely to see. I doubt people would be throwing Poison Jab or Psychic onto their Lucario.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on January 31, 2014, 05:12:27 am
Also forgetting the fact that he can learn Stone Edge to cover its counters too... yeah, BANHAMMER.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on January 31, 2014, 05:15:40 am
^And here I was just wondering if Volcarona could at least keep up with Luke once Stealth Rock's been nulled.
Agreed on its banishment. Looking forward to encountering offline trainers using this thing and making me cry or rage from the inside.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 31, 2014, 05:21:58 am
^And here I was just wondering if Volcarona could at least keep up with Luke once Stealth Rock's been nulled.
I know right?? Volcarona seemed like a good counter in paper without entry hazards. Oh well... You can replace Iron Head for Stone Edge in the physical movepool.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 31, 2014, 06:23:30 am
Most physical MegaLukes aren't going to carry Stone Edge anyway. A +2 Adaptability Close Combat already deals tons of damage even on the flying types that resist it, and the only flying types MegaLuke has to really worry about are Gliscor and Multiscale Dragonite, both of which are shit on by Ice Punch with the physical set and the special set just tears Gliscor apart.
And I forgot about Volcarona. Yes, he CAN survive both sets and OHKO back, providing rocks are off the field. So yeah, may as well add him with Zapdos, Moltres, and Gyara.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 31, 2014, 06:24:36 am
Hella. Gives me more reason to pick up Volcarona again this gen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 31, 2014, 06:43:52 am
Damage calcs just because:
Vs. 0 HP, 252 Def, 0 SpDef Bold Volcarona:
+2 252 Atk Jolly MegaLucario Close Combat: 266-314 (85.5%~100.96%)(6.25% chance to OHKO)
+2 252 Atk Adamant MegaLucario Close Combat: 292-344 (93.89%~110.61%)(66.67% chance to OHKO)
For the record, the above Volcarona requires 136 HP EVs minimum to guarantee survival from Close Combat from Adamant MegaLuke, 16 HP from Jolly MegaLuka.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on January 31, 2014, 07:32:54 am
Unless extra physical defense is something Volcarona really needs, I'll still probably go for Timid/Modest. Then again, I do prefer running Fiery Dance, so I don't really know. I'll test this stuff out when the time comes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on January 31, 2014, 03:31:18 pm
65 base defense is sub par, but he does have flame body, which has uses outside of MegaLucario (which laughs at burn if its running the Nasty Plot sets), namely stuff like Scizor, Bisharp, etc. Volcarona's resistances to Fighting and Steel help it out tremendously in this regard as well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 01, 2014, 01:29:13 am
I also came up with a really weird idea for a Pangoro set earlier today and felt like running this by a few people. Something like:
~ Bulk Up ~ Hammer Arm/Sky Uppercut/Substitute (probs gonna go with this) ~ Circle Throw ~ Crunch/??? (depends on if better Dark moves are available in the third version or whatever)
My main plan is to (hopefully) have hazards set up and abuse Scrappy to be able to phaze just about anything that comes in whilst setting up Bulk Ups. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on February 03, 2014, 12:54:09 pm
Holy smokes man.
Why even include Megas in the game when Smogon will drop ban-hammers on them?
It seem to be a catch-22 situation from the competitive battling community.
Mega not good it enough: "IT SUCKS! I DO NOT LIKE IT! WASTE OF SPACE!"
Mega too powerful: "BANHAMMER!"
Is there a mega that is the perfect balance between power and challenge?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 03, 2014, 07:44:34 pm
Is there a mega that is the perfect balance between power and challenge?
mmm let´s see:
Banette, Aggron, Scizor (not sure about this one), Alakazam, Venasaur, Both Charizards, Blastoise, Ampharos, Gardevoir, Absol, Manectric, Garchomp, Abomasnow, Medicham, Houndoom, Heracross.
Most of them make the former creatures a nice favor making them more powerful and usable. Some are plain stupid or unnecessary both most of them are alright after taking a look at the list. Probably Alakazam & Scizor will be discussed on soon enough.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 03, 2014, 11:32:10 pm
Mega Scizor actually has merit over regular Scizor as a bulky sweeper. Yes, it lacks the same raw power as the Choice Band set, but when you have the same base physical defense as Skarmory and a 100 base SpDef its kinda hard to go wrong. Both are completely useable, though; neither one outclasses the other.
Oh and you might want to add Mega Pinsir to that list, as its a pure monster.
Posted: February 04, 2014, 12:21:53 am OU List updated for January:
Oh and you might want to add Mega Pinsir to that list, as its a pure monster.
Indeed. Bug/Flying is a bit of a letdown but thanks to glorious Defog (thing that skyrocketed Mandibuzz to OU, and that eliminated the suicide leads from play) he can wreck shit up!
Yeah, most of the megaevo are alright. Quite a few are really unnecessary.
Good to see my baby (Aggron) getting on UU.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 04, 2014, 02:43:25 am
...Vaporeon what happened to you?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 04, 2014, 02:52:21 am
Bisharp is getting more usage. Aww yiss.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Garaliru on February 04, 2014, 11:22:42 am
PokéBank has been released in Europe, Australia and New Zealand. (Sucks to be you now, 'Merica)
I wouldn't be surprised if they actually did wait until leap year at this point :3c
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 05, 2014, 04:50:17 pm
There's been reports going around that the European release of Pokebank is rejecting legit Pokemon, most notably event legendaries.
I'd post a link but the only one I can find is from Gamefaqs and dunno how reliable it is.
EDIT: Confirmation that Pokebank will reject any legit shiny Jirachi (http://www.marriland.com/forums/pokemon-6th-generation/pokemon-x-y/480050-hacked-pokemon-pokebank?comment=12)
EDIT: Pokebank's hack detection is still laughable (http://www.marriland.com/forums/pokemon-6th-generation/pokemon-x-y/480050-hacked-pokemon-pokebank)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 05, 2014, 06:12:46 pm
Pokebank's out in NA
Serebii.net said:
Pokémon Bank has finally gone live in North America. This game is automatically at Version 1.1 and it has been announced that the 30 day free trial is redeemable before March 14th 2014, just like Europe.
Get on that guys
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on February 05, 2014, 06:26:42 pm
Now that Bank is out, where's Transporter? Or is that only available for Pre 3DS, or regular DS, DS-XL, etc?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 05, 2014, 06:36:05 pm
You get it via Bank Open Bank, wait for everything to load then select Download Poke Transporter
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Orochi Gill on February 05, 2014, 06:48:48 pm
Two questions.
1. Is it worth downloading this if I have no profiles in my Emerald, Platinum, Black 1 or Black 2?
2. $5 a year right? Does it take that out of your eshop account?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 05, 2014, 06:53:57 pm
1. Is it worth downloading this if I have no profiles in my Emerald, Platinum, Black 1 or Black 2?
If you want to start again and not lose anything or need space in your boxes, sure. Otherwise, just use it for Celebi and uninstall it imo.
said:
2. $5 a year right? Does it take that out of your eshop account?
There was an add credit option when I first opened it. And I got the 30 day free trial via the eshop so I believe so.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on February 05, 2014, 07:40:25 pm
Oh, so if it takes the credit out of your e-shop account, that makes more sense. I was worried that it would take directly from your credit card account.
Though to add funds, you need to use a points card or a credit card anyway, but that's pretty much an obvious given.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 05, 2014, 08:03:33 pm
welp time to get busy
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 05, 2014, 09:55:29 pm
Rewind back to yesterday...
"Bank has been released...! ...What do I even transfer?"
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 06, 2014, 04:31:20 am
Nice multi battle between Rice and myself versus _Data_Drain_ and some other guy I don't know. Teamwork FTW. HQ4G-WWWW-WWW5-8FUC
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 07, 2014, 06:13:07 am
Finally ported a massive chunk of mons to X, now I only have one free box in my cartridge.
A little note. Refresh Metang and XD-exclusive moves Pokemon got added successfully. One Braviery appearently had its OT name altered for some reason. It has "Kuro*" now.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 07, 2014, 07:35:31 am
Weird. ._. Let me just say that Prankster Meowstic is allowing me to set up sweeps way too easily. It's awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on February 07, 2014, 09:03:03 am
Well, I finally completed my first team (after not doing anything for a fucking month). And with Pokebank I now have some additions from black.
In fact, this Black is my sister's, she gave it to me for christmas cus she was done with it, and I found her real present in her save file.
Shiny Cofagrigus. . .with 2 speed.
Other than that it has good IV's. So I'm making a second team just so I could use it. Currently got Punch-Everything Dusknoir, Rapid Spin Special Wall Claydol, Special Sweeper Volcarona, Physical Wall Gigalith, and Nasty Plot Trick Room Cofagrigus.
With how much water or dark shits on my team I'm thinking Haxorus or 1 of like, 50 electric types.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 07, 2014, 05:44:26 pm
One Braviery appearently had its OT name altered for some reason. It has "Kuro*" now.
XY's built-in censor list now censors OT names, thats why. Posted: February 08, 2014, 07:34:31 am So testing out what I had for my Doubles team so far on Battle Spot. Nothing too exciting until this:
H28W-WWWW-WWW5-AK9U
As if Mega Charizard Y wasnt scary enough...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 11, 2014, 01:00:06 pm
Diancie is finally officially revealed... like 2 months after Smealum found it. So zetta slow Nintendo. Anyway, according to Serebii/CoroCoro:
Serebii.net said:
As previously known due to leaks, this Pokémon is called Diancie. It is a Rock/Fairy-type Pokémon and it stars in the movie now titled Cocoon of Destruction & Diancie.
No details about an event has been revealed so far.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on February 11, 2014, 01:24:28 pm
Ah, a new legendary?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 11, 2014, 02:16:23 pm
the REAL DIAMOND VERSION. lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 11, 2014, 02:51:59 pm
Expected but awesome. Now about those mega jets....
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 11, 2014, 09:02:51 pm
Why is it that Japanese wonder traders now start throwing Protean Froakies at me after I trade one of my extra legendaries for a protean Frogadier...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: BPTM2694 on February 11, 2014, 09:13:48 pm
My brother and I have provisionally added everyone who posted their friend code in this topic and the 3DS friend code topic, so feel free to add us.
My FC: 0533-5945-9296 My brother's FC: 4914-4294-5521
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 11, 2014, 09:20:03 pm
So I got the game a few days ago and finished it yesterday.
I already feel lame to be hunting for Shinies :/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 11, 2014, 09:46:06 pm
You don´t have a Shiny already?? That´s some bad luck, son.
Now, I´m waiting for the announcement of Volcanion. Fire/Water, baby!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 11, 2014, 09:56:33 pm
Never caught let alone seen a legit shiny in-game (Without hacks and such)
I'm doing the whole chaining thing, I managed to get a 25 Chain with Furfrou but derped and walked into the wrong grass and had to start over.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Knuckles8864 on February 11, 2014, 10:09:48 pm
Don't be discouraged. You can do it.
Poke-Radar takes time and patience. That's how I've found most of my shinies in Platinum. I did find a random Shiny Oddish as my first Shiny in X and Y.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 11, 2014, 11:47:17 pm
On the subject of shinies, XY legendary shinies got leaked. This is a foreign site that claims the same person that leaked the event legendaries managed to rip these. Judging from Mega Lati@s' model, I'm pretty sure it's real but see for yourselves.
Why is it that Japanese wonder traders now start throwing Protean Froakies at me after I trade one of my extra legendaries for a protean Frogadier...
Why didn't you just use the Friend Safari? Not only is it easier to farm natures (thank you Synchronize) but every Safari Pokemon gets at least 2 IVS. And a higher chance for a shiny if that's your thing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 12, 2014, 01:29:30 am
I like the shiny Zygarde. If it has that color combination it would look great. Xerneas looks really bad, lol.
Shiny Mega Lati@s look like some military colors now. Shit just got real.
I find funny and quite clever that the colors of the mega form and the shiny mega form (if it turns out to be true) of the Eon Brothers have the colors when you mix the colors of the originals respectively:
Latios Latias Blue + Red = Purple.
Latios shiny Latias Shiny Cyan (Blue) + Golden (Yellow) = Some sort of green.
Clever.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 12, 2014, 02:55:21 am
Once I finally earn that shiny charm I will be laughing at all you people chaining longer than me.
Now let's see what else am I gonna need to make sure I have before the bank trial ends....
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 12, 2014, 02:29:47 pm
Well by doing the Fishing Chaining method I managed to get myself a Shiny Poliwag and evolve it to a Poliwrath. Since I don't play Pokemon too much like a Competition, I am really REALLY happy to get one.
C.A.N Sorry for rejecting your battle request last night, I wanna build up a good team before I start doing battles :c I just dunno who my last two Pokemon will be :I
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 12, 2014, 07:00:49 pm
Let the mass bannings commence (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/xy-ou-suspect-process-round-1-voting.3499835/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 12, 2014, 10:15:58 pm
Is the Friend Safari one of the best ways to get Shinies? Or if anyone knows their rates?
Though people seem to be getting them alot from the Safari's (On videos atleast) and seen a odd few people mention they've gotten one and another one within a 15 minute difference.
Just trying to get my hands on a Shiny Espurr, One of my buddies has them in his Safari, Worth trying to find one?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 12, 2014, 10:25:00 pm
Friend Safari´s pokes are more powerful cause they have max IV in 2 stats (important for reaching the max power of a pokemon in said that). Plus Espurr or Meowstick are good, fast and good set-upers. I say go for it, test your luck.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 12, 2014, 11:50:32 pm
I just found a Shiny Espurr within half an hour in the Safari, Alot LESS time consuming as I thought it would be.
The fact it's Male too made me screech like a bitch. (Which is wonderful since the Male > Female in design wise)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 12, 2014, 11:55:40 pm
damn that was fast. i need to go back to the safari then. LMAO!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 13, 2014, 04:39:50 am
With MegaLucario and Genesect bans on the horizon, people are already making a call to arms to ban the next big bad mega...
And its not Mega Pinsir... (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-next-big-thing.3499877/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 13, 2014, 04:41:49 am
I didn't see that coming. .-.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 13, 2014, 04:43:46 am
Mega Charizard Y isn´t that broken. He can set up its own sun and stuff but it is pretty wallable. Mega Charizard X... I´m not so sure. Switching into a Dragon Dance +1 Charizard X... that thing can destroy stuff with ease.
But let´s not forget Stealth Rock. Support would be necessary to both of them.
That Mega Charizard Y sprite is lovely :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 13, 2014, 05:42:55 am
DDBG-WWWW-WWW5-FSHB
Slapped together a preliminary Doubles Team, but not sure what I else I can do with it, but holy shit that sweep.
btw, Diancie's ability confirmed to be Clear Body (http://www.serebi.net)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 13, 2014, 05:44:16 am
With MegaLucario and Genesect bans on the horizon, people are already making a call to arms to ban the next big bad mega...
And its not Mega Pinsir... (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/the-next-big-thing.3499877/)
JUST BAN MEGA STONES AND GET IT OVER WITH
Diancie's ability of Clear Body only backs up the Carbink relationship (also has the same ability) that's been going on since the leak. Pretty interesting.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 13, 2014, 06:00:51 am
YEAH, NO MORE MEGA STONES. GAMEFREAK, YOU STUPID.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 13, 2014, 06:42:01 am
This is such an amusing slippery slope to watch.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 13, 2014, 12:34:24 pm
I genuinely couldn't care less if Mega Stones are removed from future games. Just a lazy excuse to not have real evolutions for certain Pokémon.
Diancie and Carbink come from an ancient race of diamond-rock beings. There's probably about 151 different species within that single race.
That, or Carbink is a diamond Diancie gave birth to that came to life. THEORIES.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on February 13, 2014, 01:20:07 pm
So lazy that you need just as much animation and more programming to deal with Mega Stones instead of just adding a new entry to the evolution table (http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-psyduck.gif)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 13, 2014, 01:26:39 pm
While I'm here, Does anyone have a Safari with any of the following.
My friend safari has Dragonairs so I can hook you up with some if you want.
That'd be awesome C:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 13, 2014, 03:49:49 pm
I have a Fire-type safari with Braixen in it :3
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 13, 2014, 04:35:01 pm
I believe I already have you added so lemme know when you're on so I can get your third pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 14, 2014, 04:48:34 pm
Diancie reveal video
Serebii.net said:
Diancie has been officially revealed for North America. Within this reveal, it was confirmed that it will be within the new movie and that its distribution method will be revealed at a later point. It also states that it was a sudden transformation of the Pokémon Carbink, and that its body is said to be the loveliest sight in the world. Groups of Carbink tend to gather around Diancie, but Diancie pays them little heed and acts only according to its own will. They also inadvertently revealed the shiny form of Diancie on the official site, where it has darker rocks and a pink body.
Pokedex entry and Shiny form: (http://www.serebii.net/xy/diancie4.jpg)
I want one
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 14, 2014, 05:19:19 pm
An event exclusive evolution?
This is... a first.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 14, 2014, 05:23:11 pm
Guess the shiny legendaries are indeed real.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 14, 2014, 06:16:34 pm
It said transformation, not evolution. Entei, Raikou and Suicune are transformations of three Pokémon that perished in the Brass/Burnt Tower (theorised to be Flareon, Jolteon and Vaporeon, respectively).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: D.Magician on February 14, 2014, 06:22:11 pm
"A new distribution event has also been announced. Within next month's CoroCoro, a special Serial Code is to be released. This Serial Code, like the Garchomp one last year, provides one-time access to a special Charizard. If you are playing Pokémon X, it will give you a Charizard holding Charizardite Y. If you are playing Pokémon Y, it will give you a Charizard holding Charizardite X"
This was taking from Serebii
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 14, 2014, 06:36:06 pm
So the whole of yesterday I was searching for a Shiny Frogadier, No luck or any shiny was found.
So I go in the Safari today to find a Shiny Floatzel within 5 minutes. I don't even know why I'm making a deal about it, I think I'm just proud to actually find them.
EDIT: Found a Shiny Frogadier just, After I was telling my friend I found the Floatzel.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 14, 2014, 10:21:33 pm
I got a shiny Froakie after egg farming months ago without Masuda Method. Only Shiny from Friend Safari I got was a Grumpig.
Oddly enough they all just pop out of nowhere for me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 14, 2014, 11:54:36 pm
I got three non-Masuda shiny egg Pokémon, one Friend Safari shiny, one traded shiny (cheers, Noobie) and a shiny I traded over from White.
Rotom, Bergmite, Porygon, Lillipup, Trapinch and Gigalith, respectively.
Nice luck I'm having. Guess that's why I have such bad luck in battles, eh? :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 15, 2014, 12:21:53 am
In X, I've gotten 2 shiny Clauncher, shiny Trevenant, shiny male Meowstic and shiny Grumpig. This is actually the most shinies I've ever caught in a Gen.
Anyway the part about Diancie being a Carbink mutation was removed from the official site. Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 15, 2014, 12:25:34 am
From 9PM to 4AM ill be online! Anybody wanna battle? also....does anybody got a shiny with at least 2 perfect IVs? i would really appreciate one....besides. ITS Valentines day!!! XOXOXOXO
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 15, 2014, 02:51:56 am
After a single Dragon Dance that thing hits like a truck and with Tough Claws it hits even harder. Cause he is Fire/Dragon, it is guaranteed that nothing will resist this STAB combination cause Fire takes care of the Steel types and Dragon of the rest.
If it gets a second Dragon Dance, better ragequit. Thankfully it is controlable cause he is weak to entry hazards of all kind and you could try to phaze it after it gets a boost, just like Mega Charizard Y.
Mega Charizard Y isn´t broken at all. Just pretty good.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 17, 2014, 08:43:57 pm
Cause he is Fire/Dragon, it is guaranteed that nothing will resist this STAB combination cause Fire takes care of the Steel types and Dragon of the rest.
You're forgetting Carbink, Diancie, and Heatran. Reshiram's STAB was unresisted because it could blow through Heatran's Flash Fire.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 17, 2014, 08:47:27 pm
Carbink & Diancie won´t like a boosted Dragon Claw at all. Carbink can´t answer back really. Carbink is more useful in multi battles. Diancie... I´m not sure about the stat distribution, it has been revealed already?? It could be an answer for that. Heatran is a good check but he can´t answer back either unless he carries AncientPower (it is quite common to see nowadays thanks to freaking Talonflame).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 17, 2014, 08:48:31 pm
Carbink & Diancie won´t like a boosted Dragon Claw at all.
Fairies are immune to Dragon moves I dunno what you're talking about. ._. I was talking purely in terms of types.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 17, 2014, 08:51:10 pm
Shit, I always keep forgetting that immunity. Shit, Shit, SHIT. It can learn Earthquake anyways and is still quite bulky so Carbink would be just a check.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 17, 2014, 08:53:14 pm
It's still something to consider rather than assuming MegaZard X is a physical equivalent to Gen 5 Reshiram because of the typing. Besides, some MegaZard X run Roost instead so it's still there to stop MegaZard in its tracks if it isn't running Quake.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 17, 2014, 08:59:26 pm
I´d rather prefer to run Quake to make an unstoppable monster but that´s just me anyways. It depends really, if you see it doesn´t carry Earthquake then it gets a little easier to handle. Diancie seems like a good counter on paper.
Freaking fairies, I always keep forgetting everything about them.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on February 17, 2014, 09:00:48 pm
I've seen people run Brick break on megazard X.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 17, 2014, 09:01:18 pm
That's all up to preference. I haven't had a need to run Quake on my MegaZard yet so I keep Roost just for a rainy day.
Speaking of Fairies, I love how everybody flipped over Togekiss walling Garchomp's STAB in spite of a ton of them running Stone Miss anyways.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on February 18, 2014, 08:12:11 am
When it comes to fairies for Dragon Types I usually keep something like Flash Cannon or Iron Head prepared, depending on the sweeper. Though Charizard only has access to Metal Claw and Steel Wing, both having less than 100% accuracy. Though if you have bullshit luck you may pull off a attack increase with Metal Claw. IF.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 18, 2014, 04:16:45 pm
Just gonna leave this here:
+1 252+ Atk Mega Charizard X Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 216-255 (53.4 - 63.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO +1 252+ Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 252-297 (62.3 - 73.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard X: 109-130 (36.5 - 43.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Play Rough vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard X: 246-289 (82.5 - 96.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
If Zard X hits with Recoil, thats a OHKO on Azu's side with Play Rough.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on February 18, 2014, 09:20:32 pm
So is there any use for Power-Up Punch?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 18, 2014, 09:24:18 pm
Outside of Mega Kangaskhan and a few Assault Vest/Technician users? Not much. Mostly outclassed by Swords Dance.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on February 19, 2014, 12:26:17 am
Yeah pretty much Power-Up Punch gets used on all of three things. Although I recall an interesting MegaLucario set using Power-Up Punch. But now that that's been banished to Ubers, I don't see it getting used much there, either
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 19, 2014, 01:10:10 am
I've heard mention of mons like Breloom using PuP to set up on sleeping mons and also Trevenant on SubSeeding sets or something similar. Idk it's kind of a gimmick but it seems to have its merits.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on February 19, 2014, 02:27:11 am
So if Scizor or Mega Scizor with Assault Vest used PuP, is that atleast usable?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 19, 2014, 02:27:55 am
I wouldn't count on it. Scizor's biggest boon isn't exactly its ability to take hits. Swords Dance + Bullet Punch is far safer.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 19, 2014, 02:40:50 am
Mega Scizor is a freaking wall in general. Great special defense and ridiculous defense so a PuP could be interesting. But Scizor appreciate Swords Dance more, PuP is complicated to use for him (just use Brick Break :P ). Kecleon with Protean have some use with PuP too, in lower tiers of course but I certainly prefer those tiers
FREAKING TALONFLAME.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 19, 2014, 02:44:49 am
Kecleon with Protean have some use with PuP too, in lower tiers of course but I certainly prefer those tiers
I've been thinking of messing with a Protean Kecleon these days and saw one using PuP to mild success in a vid on YT. I should try that out once I'm done with the truckload of other things I need to breed and train. EDIT: (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbyAU52IMAAQRx8.jpg)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 20, 2014, 05:42:55 pm
Mega Lati@s in action
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 20, 2014, 05:57:44 pm
eh....still waiting for shiny raikou. XD
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 20, 2014, 07:42:33 pm
Freaking Smogon man. Well, Klefki is really useful so there´s that. I think is the only Prankster user that can set up Spikes. Smogon love entry hazards.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 20, 2014, 09:45:47 pm
Freaking Smogon man. Well, Klefki is really useful so there´s that. I think is the only Prankster user that can set up Spikes. Smogon love entry hazards.
That, but the pic was mostly referencing the ANNOYING-AS-FUCK Swagger/TWave/Foul Play sets
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 20, 2014, 09:47:02 pm
Well then, estimated based stats calculated by some person who isn't me:
Latias 80 HP 100 att +20 120 def +30 140 sp att +30 150 sp def +20 110 speed
Latios 80 HP 130 att +40 (the person who calculated this thought the Latios in the video had an odd Attack IV) 100 def +20 160 sp att +30 120 sp def +10 110 speed
No Multiscale Latias, no Adaptability Latios. What a crying shame :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 20, 2014, 09:50:22 pm
That, but the pic was mostly referencing the ANNOYING-AS-FUCK Swagger/TWave/Foul Play sets
Hey, parafusion is still a thing. Good!
Holy shit, the Eon duo really look like combat planes now. That´s sick!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 22, 2014, 03:45:09 am
Battle with Xan:
5SYG-WWWW-WWW5-Z6EL
Pinsir scared the crap out of me...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 22, 2014, 03:47:33 am
I seriously need to shape up my teams more. I just want Metagross to be useful. ;3;
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 22, 2014, 03:55:08 am
Is funny how losing that resistance to Dark and Ghost really hindered Metagross. Now he can get Sucker Punched, Shadow Sneaked, Pursuited, etc. Oh well, Fairy got introduced so Steel needed some rebalance. He still hits like a freaking truck thought and it has agility...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 22, 2014, 03:56:32 am
Yeah I'm running Agility on mine. It hasn't been able to do shit in any of the battles I've used it in so far because of that 90% accuracy on Zen Headbutt and Meteor Mash existing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 22, 2014, 03:58:04 am
You´re pretty unlucky. I hasn´t mixed a Meteor Mash in my life... yet. Zen Headbutt a couple of times.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 22, 2014, 04:03:00 am
Yeah no kidding. I've had better luck with Stone Edge at this rate.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 22, 2014, 04:23:04 am
Ok. If I ever play this game or get the money to get a 3DS I will work around a Trick Room team. Is funny how many monsters with high attack has such terrible speed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 22, 2014, 04:25:11 am
That'll be fun to go up against if I ever do. I really should use Trick Room more this gen. Avalugg's practically begging for it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 22, 2014, 09:43:08 am
I finished my regional pokedex at long last. Now to tackle that national dex.
But first I have an oval charm. Watch out wonder trade, hidden ability babies for everyone!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 22, 2014, 09:49:24 am
lucky...im still tryna get 5 IVs in one or a shiny pokemon. i did catch a charmeleon which i named ABBBBBBK. I'm giving him an everstone and lvl him to 100. just because...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 22, 2014, 10:48:16 am
^you're missing an open bracket on the end of that.
That'll be fun to go up against if I ever do. I really should use Trick Room more this gen. Avalugg's practically begging for it.
I have similar problems with Metagross. Actually related to your post, I've had no luck with Avalugg. I just gets KO'd, because everything has a special move. The best mine did was last a whole turn, and I would've won a battle had Ice Fang hit :c
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 22, 2014, 08:10:55 pm
4 IV protean timid froakie... getting close. Just need to have that one produce a female offspring and introduce that to a perfect special defense IV Omanite with Toxic Spikes...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 23, 2014, 04:20:53 am
Is a shame Avalugg doesn´t Icicle Crash... I mean, why not give him Icicle Crash?? I question Gamefreak decisions in many things at times. Jeez.
And where is my Snow Drift ability?? >:(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 23, 2014, 05:56:29 am
Gah female Froakies are too damn rare
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 23, 2014, 05:57:24 am
That does it I'm gonna try going for a Dual Screens Bronzong. Because it's awesome and I don't trust my Meowstic's lack of bulk sometimes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 23, 2014, 11:25:21 am
Though Bronzong got nerfed along with Metagross and Jirachi. It's also got a more common weakness regardless of which ability you give it. Ground and Fire are more common than Bug.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 23, 2014, 11:31:59 am
I kinda wished they keeped the Dark resistance for Steel because fuck Dark. Bronzong is pretty damn bulky thought, he can do defensive tasks very nicely still.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 23, 2014, 12:00:54 pm
Steel should've remained the most defensive type. It's all the in the name of Mega Gengar. Why Dazzling Gleam? Because fuck Chesnaught, an otherwise perfect counter for the damn thing...oh, and Garchomp.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on February 23, 2014, 02:48:26 pm
Smogon is now considering banning Swagger and foul play.
Oh really? Why not just ban Klefki? :blank:
Because Klefki is still a really REALLY good support Pokemon even without SwagPlay, and Klefki isn't the only Pokemon that can abuse the strategy, rendering banning Klefki to ubers entirely moot.
Also because it's a luck based strategy, just like OHKOs and evasion, it will most likely be banned from ubers as well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 23, 2014, 07:27:55 pm
Klefki Swagplay is the worst thing since moody substitutes. Please get it out of my sight.
By some freak chance, I got a 5 IV female froakie out of a 4IV and one less IV parent...then I looked at her ability and she got torrent instead of protean. FUCK
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 23, 2014, 09:03:08 pm
Liepard, Sableye and pranksters for Ubers :smug: Annoying but really unreliable strategy, too many 50/50. Klefki can be a great lead even on Ubers, that´s impressive. Love seeing Smogon complaining for this.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 23, 2014, 09:10:35 pm
Klefki Swagplay is the worst thing since moody substitutes. Please get it out of my sight.
By some freak chance, I got a 5 IV female froakie out of a 4IV and one less IV parent...then I looked at her ability and she got torrent instead of protean. FUCK
its ok! go to battle mansion and buy an ability capsule for 200 bp! itll switch it to protean
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 23, 2014, 09:18:07 pm
No it won't. It doesn't work for Hidden Abilities.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 23, 2014, 09:21:08 pm
its not hidden. its the second one serebii says: Abilities: Torrent - Protean (Hidden Ability) Torrent: When HP is below 1/3rd, Water’s power increases to 1.5 times. Hidden Ability (Available): Protean: Before the Pokémon uses a move, it becomes a pure Pokémon of that type.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 23, 2014, 09:21:53 pm
It's the Hidden Ability. Try it for yourself and see if it'll switch to Protean. Ability Capsules only switch between the two primary ones. It's why Skarmory can't gain its HA of Weak Armor via Ability Capsule.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 23, 2014, 09:24:24 pm
oops! LOL
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 23, 2014, 09:24:57 pm
damn...i thought it was second. i got tons of protean ones
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 23, 2014, 09:28:36 pm
Liepard, Sableye and pranksters for Ubers :smug: Annoying but really unreliable strategy, too many 50/50. Klefki can be a great lead even on Ubers, that´s impressive. Love seeing Smogon complaining for this.
Klefki doing swagplay is particularly annoying because it has the best damn defensive typing in the game, not to mention other horrors to compliment it like priority thunderwaves and substitutes.
its not hidden. its the second one serebii says: Abilities: Torrent - Protean (Hidden Ability) Torrent: When HP is below 1/3rd, Water’s power increases to 1.5 times. Hidden Ability (Available): Protean: Before the Pokémon uses a move, it becomes a pure Pokémon of that type.
Yep won't work. Hidden Abilities cannot be brought out by ability capsule. I have to continue to put up with the caprice of the atrocious probablity I have of getting the right parent even with destiny knot and everstone because starters are misogynists.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 23, 2014, 10:42:34 pm
Smogon is now considering banning Swagger and foul play.
Oh really? Why not just ban Klefki? :blank:
Because Klefki is still a really REALLY good support Pokemon even without SwagPlay, and Klefki isn't the only Pokemon that can abuse the strategy, rendering banning Klefki to ubers entirely moot.
Also because it's a luck based strategy, just like OHKOs and evasion, it will most likely be banned from ubers as well.
Silly me. I guess I meant to say the Prankster ability itself. It was a pretty stupid idea, just as Gale Wings is.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 23, 2014, 10:46:41 pm
Say hello to Murkrow being completely useless within Ubers.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 23, 2014, 10:49:46 pm
Prankster was a pretty good idea if you ask me. Pretty much every Prankster have a different aspect or different tools to work around and that´s fascinating. Gale wings on the other hand... FUCK TALONFLAME!!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 24, 2014, 12:40:54 am
Prankster was a pretty good idea if you ask me. Pretty much every Prankster have a different aspect or different tools to work around and that´s fascinating.
Sure looked that way during that battle Rice posted. Lookit all them different Swaggers 'n' Substitutes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 24, 2014, 01:44:50 am
Those battles are supposed to be looked on a 3DS or something?? cause that may be my case, I don´t have one :P Many people are cunts so that´s why you need someone with Own Tempo...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 24, 2014, 02:31:23 am
I did this here battle with a few new mons of mine. I think they did pretty well. WXLW-WWWW-WWW5-QH3E
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 24, 2014, 02:31:43 am
I honestly feel priority is getting a little out of hand. There's giving otherwise ignored pokemon some interesting uses and then there's BS like Talonflame and Klefki. I guess with the past 2 generations being all about rain it's now priority's turn.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 24, 2014, 08:37:57 am
Those battles are supposed to be looked on a 3DS or something?? cause that may be my case, I don´t have one :P Many people are cunts so that´s why you need someone with Own Tempo...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Navana on February 24, 2014, 08:57:09 am
So I made a Pokemon Team of 3 Pokemon for Free / Rated Battles, but I am wanting to extend my team so I can do 6 vs 6 battles. I honestly am not sure what to add to my team, so any suggestions would be great.
I'm using my Espeaon to double my teams Def. and SpDef. for 8 turns (5 without Light Clay). If it survives after Reflect and Light Screen, I'm switching it to some other pokemon (depending on opposing pokemon) to use atleast one of the Reflect or Light Screen at late game.
W-Rotom Modest (I know that Timid would be better but It's a 5 perfect IV Shiny. Cant stop myself from using it! =D) EV: +252 Speed, +252 HP, +6 SpAtk Moves: -Hydro Pump -Volt Switch -Will-o-wisp -Confuse Ray
After setting my Reflect and Light Screen, I'm using my Rotom to stall against physical attackers. With Will-o-Wisp, physical attackers cant touch Rotom. If things turn out bad I'm using Volt Switch for fast get away.
I made his EV's like this because of defense boost from Espeon. With extremly high def / spdef stats, I'm building up Dragon Dances. It can tank nearly anything until I build +2 atk and +2 speed (except fighting moves). I'm always trying to get rid of fighting pokemons before sending out my Tyranitar.
So this is usualy what I'm doing at free batles and rated battles. As I said I dont know what to add for 6v6 competitive battle. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.
Thank you in advance.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 24, 2014, 08:02:39 pm
If you can breed Hidden Power Fire onto it, replace Dazzling Gleam with that. You may also want to opt for Psyshock over Psychic as you'll be able to hit Specially Defensive Pokes harder, like Chansey, Blissey, and Assault Vest Conkeldurr.
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W-Rotom Modest (I know that Timid would be better but It's a 5 perfect IV Shiny. Cant stop myself from using it! =D) EV: +252 Speed, +252 HP, +6 SpAtk Moves: -Hydro Pump -Volt Switch -Will-o-wisp -Confuse Ray
Since you're going Modest, you could try a Choice Specs/Scarf set with Trick in the last slot over Confuse Ray, and move those HP EVs into speed.
I would honestly give this thing the its Megastone and run Jolly with 252 Atk & 252 Speed, as Mega Tyranitar hits a very nice 397 speed after a single Dragon Dance, which lets it outspeed alot of key threats, not to mention Mega Tyranitar is bulky as hell even without defensive investment.
As for the remaining three, I would suggest something that can take care of Fighting and/or Fairy. Gliscor or Landorus, preferably the latter since it can also run Stealth Rock to help Tyranitar's sweep. A wallbreaker would be nice too just to soften your opponents up before Tyranitar starts its sweep. Black Kyurem, Choicespecs Latios, Choicespecs Hydreigon, Choiceband Scizor, Choiceband Azumarill, and Choicespecs Therian Tornadus , just to name a few, especially Hydreigon and Tornadus with U-turn in conjunction with Rotom.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 24, 2014, 09:26:46 pm
Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it. I'll test out all possible ideas you've given and let you know how they all work, as I have endless amounts of time to study and such.
Also,
Ricepigeon said:
As for the remaining three, I would suggest something that can take care of Fighting and/or Fairy. Gliscor or Landorus, preferably the latter since it can also run Stealth Rock to help Tyranitar's sweep. A wallbreaker would be nice too just to soften your opponents up before Tyranitar starts its sweep. Black Kyurem, Choicespecs Latios, Choicespecs Hydreigon, Choiceband Scizor, Choiceband Azumarill, and Choicespecs Therian Tornadus , just to name a few, especially Hydreigon and Tornadus with U-turn in conjunction with Rotom.
Fairy / Fighting always seem to get the best of me half the time I face them, so now that I do think about that, Gliscor would be an exceptional idea, however I'll test the possibility of Landorus as well. As for a wall breaker, you just gave me many different ideas to work in. Anything with "Choice" in it, has promise. Always.
I was not thinking of Hydreigon / Torandus with U-turn along with Rotom. Now I feel idiotic.
Thank you for all the feedback once again, it's appreciated.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 24, 2014, 09:41:10 pm
One thing. EV spreads work in a multiple of 4. That means each 4 EV the stat will increase by 1 depending of the nature. That means that if you use 6 EV in a stat you´re basically wasting 2 EV you could use somewhere. In the end you end up using just 508 EV in total.
You could look up for a Steel type as well. Or a poison since fairies are getting pretty common.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on February 24, 2014, 09:45:08 pm
I usually just have a fast moving sweeper have a steel type move now. Sadly means they are pure offense since it now takes up the fourth slot, but it works.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 24, 2014, 10:05:25 pm
Speaking of fairies, Mega Venusaur hard counters Azumarill. I've started to use one myself with moderate success.
oh while we're on topic with Megas, I figured I should post this here:
So me, Xan/Can, The Answer, and _DataDrain_ all had a rather "interesting" conversation in Skype last night about this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp-LPOMCg3A) and this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GQo1oSccNI) where, tl;dr, the guy argues that Smogon had no clue what they were doing when they decided to ban Mega Lucario last week. He then goes on to argue about nonsensical things such as how Slurpuff is a solid counter to MegaKangaskhan, despite being 2HKOed by Return, and that MegaKangaskhan should be unbanned on those grounds, simply because "Mega Kangaskhan can utterly destroy you or fall flat"
Then a 3rd party intervenes and calls us all scrubs for not using Protect and/or Bulky Greninja to counter Mega Lucario, in spite of me posting damage calculations to prove him wrong (in his defense, a Life Orb Hydro Pump requires a minimum of 128 Sp.Atk EVs to OHKO, while max Sp.Atk investment is still only a 68.8% chance, while Greninja always dies from Life Orb recoil if +2 Extremespeed fails to OHKO, but that only makes him a shaky counter at best, which is not what he was claiming at all). I also recall him suggesting to use Shadow Sneak on Greninja in order to avoid a KO from Close Combat, except that Greninja still gets destroyed by a +2 Extremespeed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 24, 2014, 10:08:02 pm
damn. i know u guys got A+s in math. sheeeeshhhh!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 24, 2014, 10:33:57 pm
That guy whatever he was is completely stupid. I´m not going to rely on stupid gimmicks just to check a Mega Lucario and wait for that thing to steamroll on my team if that doesn´t work. The Mega Kangaskhan was just plain A+ comedy material, lol.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on February 24, 2014, 10:42:19 pm
Well Im trying to get better and need help with my team so if you guys can critique this team I'd luv you.
Togekiss (M) @ King's Rock Ability: Serene Grace EVs: 48 Spd / 156 HP / 168 Def / 136 SDef Bold Nature - Air Slash - Dazzling Gleam - Thunder Wave - Aura Sphere
Tyrantrum (M) life orb Adamant Nature 252 Spd / 252 Atk / 4 Def Adamant Nature - Fire Fang - Ice Fang - Stone Edge - Dragon Dance
Espeon choice specs Magic Bounce EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP Timid Nature - Psyshock - Shadow Ball - Dazzling Gleam - Hidden Power [Fighting]
Mandibuzz (F) eject button Overcoat EVs: 252 HP / 48 Spd / 96 SDef / 112 Def Careful Nature - Defog - Knock Off - Toxic - Roost
Still new to comp battling I've mostly just Iv breed and need more tips.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 24, 2014, 10:54:42 pm
Tyrantrum could use Earthquake instead of Fire Fang. Both cover the exact same thing. Plus Earthquake can hit a bit harder some Steel types.
Why investing in Speed for Avalugg?? He won´t be able to outspeed anything, its game consist in proper prediction. You could invest 28 EV more on HP and 16 on attack. Mirror Coat can surprise a few but you better clean entry hazards.
Commenting on the rest later. I need to think.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on February 24, 2014, 11:00:00 pm
oh thanks for the stuff so far its a paraflinch team so I thought I'd have at least some investment in speed but idk really still thinking myself.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 24, 2014, 11:06:16 pm
Razor Fang has a slightly higher chance of flinching, providing Serebii is correct, that is.
King's Rock - 10% Razor Fang - 11.7%
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 25, 2014, 06:37:14 am
Here's a little multi battle between myself and Ricepigeon on one side and _Data_Drain_ and one of his friends on the other: XNSG-WWWW-WWW5-RGX4
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 25, 2014, 01:53:37 pm
I keep getting Shiny Abra's in this damn Safari, I'm trying my best to look for a Shiny Male Espurr with Modest.
Even then, I'm trying to MM myself one too, I've got the Nature nailed so they're Modest every time but I really wish hatching eggs was alot faster.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: StayPuft on February 25, 2014, 05:26:53 pm
If you're hatching eggs, try and grab a pokemon with Flame Body like Talonflame and put it in your party. I'm not sure of the specifics but I do know it helps speed up the hatching process a little.
Unless of course you already have one and it still takes forever.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 25, 2014, 07:13:40 pm
Hyogo's signature pisses me off. They're not even fucking dogs.
My egg set-up is the oval charm which gives me more eggs faster and talonflame because it has flame body and can fly me to the IV judge.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 25, 2014, 07:17:39 pm
Use the Hatch O Power as well. Really shortened the time for me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 25, 2014, 07:22:42 pm
Thanks to the hatch power I was able to hatch my toxic spike omanite parents for my Froakie in a timespan that wasn't a freaking eternity because they are fossil pokemon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on February 25, 2014, 07:54:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82CZ5LEaVp0
Looks like Nintendo's making a buy-one-get-one-free deal with Pokemon X and Y:
Buy and register a new 3DS, 3DSXL, or 2DS along with one of the 6 eligible titles mentioned in the video and get a digital download for Pokemon X or Pokemon Y for free!
It is a great deal if you ask me, so better take advantage of it if while you can!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 25, 2014, 11:47:29 pm
Looks like Nintendo's making a buy-one-get-one-free deal with Pokemon X and Y:
Buy and register a new 3DS, 3DSXL, or 2DS along with one of the 6 eligible titles mentioned in the video and get a digital download for Pokemon X or Pokemon Y for free!
It is a great deal if you ask me, so better take advantage of it if while you can!
But only if you're American!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 26, 2014, 01:25:17 am
Quick question: Is Mewtwo Shiny locked? Serebii doesn't say anything about it. Only Xerneas/Yveltal / Zygarde.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 26, 2014, 02:35:14 am
Ok the game decided to skip the 4 IV female step in the breeding process and give me my 5 IV froakie right now with the added bonus of being female. My first 5 perfect useful IVs pokemon (and with an egg move)...it was so painful to do yet it feels so great to finally have.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on February 26, 2014, 02:52:25 am
Congrats, but how are you gonna raise it?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 26, 2014, 02:55:39 am
Here is where 998 rare candies are useful. You lucky man, if costed blood and tears but some people don´t even have that luck.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 26, 2014, 03:07:07 am
EV training will be focused on Special Attack, Speed, and HP
Moves learned will be something like Scald, Dark Pulse, Grass Knot/Ice Beam, Toxic Spikes
Leveling up to 100 is super easy in pokemon X/Y. I'm a grand duke in battle chateau so gym leaders, elite 4 and audino packing kimono girls are frequently there. I spoil Froakie in Pokeamie, slap a lucky egg on it, and watch it level all the way up in a blink.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 26, 2014, 08:48:49 pm
Just hatched a Shiny Female Espurr with a Modest nature and 4IV's Although I was expecting one with 5IV's since I have a Perfect Non-Shiny 5IV'd Male Espurr for a possible use, I thought I'd get 5IV's for this Shiny.
Nevertheless, I am so happy to get her.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on February 26, 2014, 11:01:22 pm
In response to 1Ultima, there is no reason Mewtwo couldn't be shiny. Supposedly it's just another still encounter and can be SR'd for shininess. And since you could just transfer a shiny Mewtwo forward, there's no real way to tell. Also, probably going to buy Super Mario 3D Land or Animal Crossing in order to get my hands on X. Thanks to Bank I can just transfer between the two for exclusives and whatnot. Yay having my own complete set of me gusta
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 27, 2014, 02:28:48 am
IIRC only the 5th and 6th legendaries are shiny locked
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on February 27, 2014, 04:48:21 am
Do you refer to all of them or simply the mascot legendaries?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on February 27, 2014, 04:52:05 am
Victini was shiny locked as well, iirc. Can't say for sure about the Musketeers or the Kamis.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on February 27, 2014, 05:07:15 am
I've seen NOTHING but Shiny Terakions. I think they are not shiny locked. Not sure about Kamis or Kyurem though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 27, 2014, 05:21:22 am
I think just the mascot or cover legendaries are shiny locked. Of course many people could hack shiny terrakions, transport them cause you know pokebank security sucks.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on February 27, 2014, 06:08:55 am
Apparently for black and white, only the mascot legendaries and event legendaries were shiny locked (Aww I wanted a Shiny Genesect).
Welp time to try for Shiny Kyurem then. Also I guess this may apply to this gen too. So no shiny Diancie.
Those Terakions were prolly still hacked in I refuse to believe I fought 5 shiny Terakions IN A ROW
Edit: Yeah I looked it up cus I was curious.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 27, 2014, 09:50:47 am
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Trade to your Charizardite x and Venusaurite
I'll Trade my 5IV Shiny Froakie Timid Protean for those 2
I think I just nailed a deal on Gamefaq's even if that place is full of stupid people.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 27, 2014, 09:55:41 am
That´s... a pretty good trade actually, if you don´t care for those mega in particular.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 27, 2014, 10:04:28 am
SIRO NOOOOO! ILL TRADE U THOSE FOR THAT FROAKIE!!!! i have charizard x and vensaurite!!!!!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on February 27, 2014, 11:02:19 am
That´s... a pretty good trade actually, if you don´t care for those mega in particular.
Charizard's overrated and I can't stand Venusaur, Also it's a pretty big upgrade from my 3IV Quirky Shiny Greninja. Just gotta wait for the guy to get online.
SIRO NOOOOO! ILL TRADE U THOSE FOR THAT FROAKIE!!!! i have charizard x and vensaurite!!!!!
But he contacted me! That means I'm going to trade the guy and make a use of him! :C
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 27, 2014, 11:26:32 am
ok....:(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 27, 2014, 11:49:33 am
Online servers will be discontinued in all Gen IV-V Pokemon games.
serebii.net said:
Nintendo has announced that, as of May 20th 2014, all online services across the DS and Wii games will terminate. This means that you will not be able to go online with any of the following Pokémon games: Pokémon Diamond, Pokémon Pearl, Pokémon Platinum, Pokémon HeartGold, Pokémon SoulSilver, Pokémon Battle Revolution, Pokémon Black, Pokémon White, Pokémon Black 2, Pokémon White 2, My Pokémon Ranch, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Darkness, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky, Pokemon Ranger: Guardian Signs, Pokemon Ranger: Shadows of Almia & Pokémon Conquest. All online features of these games will be inaccessible, regardless of the console you play them on. All 3DS and Wii U games will continue to be playable online, as will Pokémon Bank and Poké Transporter.
This will also affect the fakegts site that people used to send their hackmons to as well as Pokecheck. It's been a fun ride.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 27, 2014, 12:03:24 pm
This will also affect the fakegts site that people used to send their hackmons to as well as Pokecheck. It's been a fun ride.
Wait what?... Pokecheck how? Explain.
Also, I may as well leave this here in case anyone is interested: http://mugenfreeforall.com/index.php?/topic/17764-3ds-pokemon-xy-queen-of-the-hive-tournament/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on February 27, 2014, 03:55:02 pm
I might have missed something but I thought with the server gone you cannot send your Pokemon on Wi-Fi to Pokecheck. Maybe the alt server it uses isn't needed by the Nintendo one. And the fakegts is affected due to its use for sending the files to cartridges, I think. Doesn't stop Pokegen as it can be written in cartridge with AR and such (Pokemon Maker back then).
Not that it matters since Pokecheck will have Gen IV support at the end if the month from their site.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 27, 2014, 03:58:31 pm
Yeah, considering Pokecheck and other methods of manually creating your own psuedo-gts requires you to manually input the DNS which is obviously independent from Nintendo's official gts, I was under the impression that Pokecheck and the like would be unaffected by this.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 27, 2014, 03:59:12 pm
Which is a shame because that pretty much would say that Shinies are worthless.
I'm sitting here and breeding for a Shiny Furfrou, By the end of the month I could get one from Pokecheck within 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 27, 2014, 04:35:00 pm
Yeah but you will feel better knowing that you actually put effort Into getting it compared to others who will just download. Plus it'll have your OT so there's that.
Also fuck Moltres. And roaming Pokemon in general. And I'm pretty sure that Mewtwo is shiny locked considering that I've been trying for 4 damn days and nothing. There's also no videos on a wild shiny Mewtwo so I give up.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 27, 2014, 05:28:39 pm
Yeah but you will feel better knowing that you actually put effort Into getting it compared to others who will just download. Plus it'll have your OT so there's that.
Also fuck Moltres. And roaming Pokemon in general. And I'm pretty sure that Mewtwo is shiny locked considering that I've been trying for 4 damn days and nothing. There's also no videos on a wild shiny Mewtwo so I give up.
Even if the captureable Mewtwo in X&Y is shiny locked, nothing will stop anyone from transferring over a legit shiny Mewtwo from the previous gens.
Also fuck Moltres. And roaming Pokemon in general.
It gets even worse in Gen 3 where all roaming Pokemon have 0 IVs in everything except HP thanks to that bug.
and speaking of bugs, I should start breeding myself some bugs to use in that tournament I posted.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 27, 2014, 05:38:07 pm
:gonk: I totally forgot about that. Then again, my Gen 3 game was Emerald and I think they fixed it for that. I've never had an interest in IVS and stuff like that so it doesn't really bother me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on February 27, 2014, 06:12:37 pm
So I got owned by a Mega Charizard Y, even one hot my Mega Aggron. Is it possible to prevent a OHKO in that situation depending on EV's? Or should I just try to find a less one sided wall? (I really like Aggron though. . .)
I have Blaziken, Gyarados, Hydreigon, Garchomp, Metagross. I;m thinking Scizor (I also realize this guy is an even worse choice but he's cool), Tentacruel, Claydol, Cofagrigus, Gigalith, Vespiquen. Yes I have alot of Walls. curious which would be best for this while not being overly specialized to only Mega Char Y.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 27, 2014, 07:30:41 pm
That's the thing with MegaZard Y; he's a wallbreaker. His whole purpose is to tear down defensive walls or at least weaken them substantially enough that a sweeper can finish the job.
That being said, Blissey & Eviolite Chansey can still take a hit, as can Latios and Latias if its not running Dragon Pulse. Moltres and Talonflame also work. Tyranitar and Specially Defensive Hippowdon can also threaten it after it Mega evolves, but Tyranitar has to watch out for Focus Blast, which will 2HKO him even with Assault Vest. Assault Vest Goodra can also works, as Dragon Pulse is only a 4HKO, while Goodra can 2HKO back with Thunderbolt.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 27, 2014, 07:42:13 pm
Walls are not as good as they used to be up to Gen 5 with all these offensive monstrocities we got now. Just throw a rock at Mega Charizard Y. Assault Vest Tyranitar takes everything Mega Charizard Y throws at it except for Focus Blast. Correct me if I'm wrong, but just regular Tyranitar with an Assault Vest and attack invested EVs can still kill Mega Charizard Y in a single stone edge right?
I managed to breed a 5IV Marvel Scale Dratini. It was kinda easier than froakie because I already had a 3 IV dragonite with extreme speed as the male parent to start with.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 27, 2014, 07:59:24 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but just regular Tyranitar with an Assault Vest and attack invested EVs can still kill Mega Charizard Y in a single stone edge right?
Tyranitar with no attack investment still does over 220% damage with Stone Edge, so yes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on February 27, 2014, 09:48:27 pm
Is Stealth Rock banned from that bug tournament??
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on February 27, 2014, 10:28:36 pm
Stealth Rock is allowed. No moves are banned other than the OHKOs and Evasion.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on February 28, 2014, 09:26:06 am
Got a 5 IV Gengar. Easiest one so far because I already had a 4 IV female Gengar and a 3 IV male Gengar (I really like gengar ok) So far I have 1 half of a 5 IV super group. I think I want to go for Magnemite next though that's gonna be my biggest challenge so far since its best parent is my 2 IV ditto.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on February 28, 2014, 08:15:44 pm
I could give you my 6IV Jap Ditto after I'm done getting a Shiny Furfrou if you'd like.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on February 28, 2014, 09:42:40 pm
So Diancie got leaked due to PowerSave
And AZ's Floette who according to Serebii, has an Eternal Flower
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/670.shtml
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on February 28, 2014, 10:03:48 pm
I could give you my 6IV Jap Ditto after I'm done getting a Shiny Furfrou if you'd like.
Funny thing, after work I played some magic with my friends and one of them hooked me up with a 6 IV ditto. It's not japanese but I don't really care because that thing is spitting out 4 IV parents like it's nobody's business anyway.
Az's Floette has an odd signature move considering that the stats make it seem like she's supposed to last. (Why can't I teach that move to Mewtwo ;_;)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 01, 2014, 03:40:40 am
Why... why that Floette is that strong, bloody hell. That Light of Ruin could wreck anything that don´t resist it. o_O
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on March 01, 2014, 03:49:01 am
Jesus half her health. How much does that bloody move do to the ENEMY
Edit: NVm found it, 140, and no skipped turn, jesus. Slap on an Eviolite or Shell Bell, maybe Leftovers but I doubt she could get more than 3 off. before going down.
Edit Edit: NVm that shit's recoil for half the damage she deals. Get a Carbink, a fucker with Rock Head. Triple Battles are fuckin done.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 01, 2014, 05:42:46 am
Serebii just posted the base stats for AZ's Floette, which are much higher than a regular Floette to compensate for not being able to evolve. We're talking about 1 BST less than Florges:
Normal Floette: 54/45/47/75/98/52 AZ's Floette: 74/65/67/125/128/92 Florges: 78/65/68/112/154/75
Yeah, if it turns out that Eviolite actually does work on this thing...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Assuming it doesn't prefer having Choice Specs/Scarf
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on March 01, 2014, 06:01:10 am
COnsidering nothing stops it, according to Serebii. (No Protect, no Mirror Coat). Choice Specs/Scarf seems to work perfectly outside of Steel, Fire, and Poison types. Even then at 140 with 125 Spe. Attack. That shit hits hard. Life Orb isn't the best choice on her, completely shutting out a third attack. It's definitely a decent wallbreaker.
Also why do I pretend I know what I;m saying.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 01, 2014, 06:07:20 am
At this point the term "wall" is just a myth with all this potent attackers with potent attacks or special attacks. A choice scarf definitely is a great choice and probably the best one. Life orb will make this thing last only one turn.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 01, 2014, 06:08:40 am
Yeah, ever since Gen 5 walls have been having a hard time.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 01, 2014, 06:12:36 am
At this point the term "wall" is just a myth with all this potent attackers with potent attacks or special attacks.
Goodra/MegaVenusaur/etc say hi.
but yeah, as far as items go:
Eviolite makes this thing bulkier than both Florges and Sylveon. Currently, Florges is outclassed by Sylveon, who can do everything it can and hit harder. Eviolite AZ Floette turns the tide in its favor as a cleric with a much more powerful STAB move than Pixilate Hyper Voice, backed by a SpAtk roughly equal to Sylveon's. Choice Specs turns this thing into a Wallbreaker, and a damn good one if I may add. Its base SpAtk is 5 points less than Latios, one of the most effective wallbreakers in the meta currently, but this Floette's most powerful stab move is 10 points higher than Draco Meteor. Choice Scarf would patch up is passable speed, turning it into a revenge killer.
All three items seem viable if you ask me, but we'll wait and see.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on March 01, 2014, 06:13:30 am
Base 140 move with little resistance, pair up with a star buff item, watch it steamroll if it doesn't take a Bullet Punch. Surprised it got a Speed buff, awaiting if Evolite supports this creature for Bold Nature. Now I'm curious if this Floette is allowed in VGC '14 by the time it's released.
Also in regards to pokegts, it will indeed be affected by the server shutdown.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 01, 2014, 06:16:40 am
Choice Specs turns this thing into a Wallbreaker, and a damn good one if I may add. Its base SpAtk is 5 points less than Latios, one of the most effective wallbreakers in the meta currently, but this Floette's most powerful stab move is 10 points higher than Draco Meteor.
Let's not forget the lack of a Sp.Atk drop. I want this Floette so badly.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 01, 2014, 06:18:58 am
In all seriousness, I know there are still effective walls in the game but they definitely are having a hard time from 5th generation... and with the removal of ghost and dark resistances for Steel is getting even harder.
Goodra revolutionated the term bulky special attacker, holy shit.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 01, 2014, 06:28:06 am
Gliscor's a good wall still though I bred mine to be a Jolly toxic orb flinging acrobat just for laughs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 01, 2014, 06:35:22 am
Great minds think alike. :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 01, 2014, 06:38:34 am
I guess I have to admit you have a great mind because fling Gliscor is the funniest thing.
edit: unless the opponent switches into Klefki >_>
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 01, 2014, 06:40:16 am
Yes, yes it is. And fuck Klefki. I still use Meowstic and Sableye for Prankster like a true boss.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 01, 2014, 06:41:50 am
I hate prankster as a whole but I love Xatu even more than I originally did because it has magic bounce so I switch it in when I see that crap
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 01, 2014, 06:42:20 am
Just did some calcs just to see how much of a wallbreaker Choice Specs AZ Floette can be...
252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Scizor: 219-258 (63.6 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Scizor: 182-214 (52.9 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 342-404 (89 - 105.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Venusaur: 156-183 (42.8 - 50.2%) -- 94.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 128-151 (39.5 - 46.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 236-278 (58.4 - 68.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 322-381 (76.6 - 90.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 280-331 (39.2 - 46.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 234-276 (33.2 - 39.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 161-189 (45.7 - 53.6%) -- 94.5% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 292-344 (75.6 - 89.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Hidden Power Ground vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 146-174 (45 - 53.7%) -- 40.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Psychic vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Venusaur: 268-316 (73.6 - 86.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 01, 2014, 06:42:28 am
Yep, Gliscor is one of the great walls still. Its typing really helps. Fling and acrobatics?? that sounds like fun.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 01, 2014, 06:46:03 am
Jesus, 2 Hit KO on Tyranitar in the sand even when it believes in the SHIELD...
No really why can't Mewtwo or White Kyurem learn that?!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on March 01, 2014, 06:49:17 am
More reasons to breed Chansey and using in every battle. Hilarious that it can give Mega Venusaur a tough time if it manages to endure a Sludge Bomb.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 01, 2014, 07:02:19 am
Updated the list of calcs to include Ferrothorn, who still takes a 2HKO from a resisted LoR, but this one caught my eye:
252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 80 SpD Multiscale Lugia: 118-140 (28.3 - 33.6%) -- 98.4% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Floette Light of Ruin vs. 252 HP / 80 SpD Lugia: 237-280 (56.9 - 67.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Yeah, even fucking Lugia has trouble taking a hit.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 01, 2014, 07:03:25 am
Ok you know something's screwed up when Lugia has problems walling someone it's not weak to. Then again though, Floette is probably gonna kill itself by the time most of those walls are dead.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on March 01, 2014, 07:05:56 am
In Singles Light of Ruin will likely take down atleast 2 enemies free of charge and then it'll die after the second/third Light of Ruin. Again if a Carbink skill swapped with a pokemon with rock head and then with Floette. Luckily the set up means Floette can be downed before that. I guess I better begin breeding that Blissey.
WAIT. Can Smeargle fuckin learn this move? I really hope not.
Also with Leftovers o Shell Bell, Floette can pull off a Third hit likely. But if your lucky Lugia can survive the third hit. Even then it'll be fairly damaged. Nvm forgot this was with Choice Specs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 01, 2014, 07:07:49 am
WAIT. Can Smeargle fuckin learn this move? I really hope not.
In theory it can, but Smeargle will not be an effective user. It has the offensive presence of a little cup pokemon. Probably not even that actually. Smeargle helps enables others to sweep. It can't sweep by itself. At least not legally *chuckles maniacally as I breed Moody Smeargles*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 01, 2014, 07:19:06 am
Can´t wait for the discussions regarding banning this thing. I don´t think Eviolite won´t work, in theory this particular Floette can´t evolve but I´m not sure.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 01, 2014, 07:32:30 am
I dont think it'll be banned. Light of Ruin does have that 50% recoil to it, plus its only 90% accurate. It'll put a huge dent in walls, but it's gonna take a self-inflicted beating in the process with that 92 speed.
Unlike MegaLucario Posted: March 01, 2014, 07:39:26 am Btw, GCPM just tried on his stream and confimed that Eviolite doesn't work with AZ's Floette.
Oh well, at least there's the Specs and Scarf sets.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on March 01, 2014, 07:49:53 am
Aight, would a 252 HP 252 Spe. Attk work? could probably earn a few more Light of Ruins all things considered.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 01, 2014, 07:55:05 am
The point of this thing IMO is to kill what it can revenge kill with the scarf set or just kill walls or anything that doesn´t resist LoR with the choice specs. I say it should go with 252 SpA, 252 Speed
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on March 01, 2014, 07:57:11 am
Yeah figured. Well, I don't have a revenge killer yet may as well use this for that role.
Until it's banned.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on March 01, 2014, 10:52:39 am
http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/719.shtml
So I know nothing about stats and shit but isn't this basically a Carbink?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 01, 2014, 10:54:25 am
Rice described it as Defense Deoxys with a better defensive typing. But yeah, it's basically Carbink on steroids. Look at Diamond Storm, though. That 50% chance defense boost.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 01, 2014, 10:55:38 am
No, it got Carbink defenses but it got more power. Defenses, Speed and HP are the same as Carbink.
Wish it had more HP thought, right now is quite frail even with such humongous defenses.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 01, 2014, 10:56:57 am
Still Carbink on steroids. I really want to get my hands on one. It's so pretty.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 01, 2014, 10:59:52 am
Now, Gamefreak, Volcanion... WHEN??
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on March 01, 2014, 02:30:54 pm
You're really waiting for Datel to update PowerSave again but ehh.
Also worth nothing is that you can get via PowerSave (shiny Xerneas / Yveltal / Zygarde, Lati@site, Diancie and AZ Floette) cannot be traded or used on Battle Spot. They can however be traded via Local Wireless and used in PSS Battles.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 01, 2014, 09:51:34 pm
Well I guess that's fair. Event mons and mascots usually aren't used in battles that use Battle Frontier (AKA stupid bans for no reason) rules.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on March 02, 2014, 06:41:13 pm
Kind of sucks that I've passively learned all the special event Pokemon. I have no real interest in cheating, so waiting for the events is my way to go. But with my luck my AZ Floette will be adamant x.x
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 03, 2014, 05:57:42 am
Smogon's February useage statistics won't be up until Wednesday, but Pokemon Online has already completed theirs and has already implemented the following:
Keldeo, Latias, Sylveon, and Chansey are now OU
Breloom, Speed Deoxys, Galvantula, Smeargle, Goodra, and Trevenant are now UU
Doesn't necessarily mean Smogon's tiers will follow the same (especially considering Sylveon was already OU last time I checked), but should be an indicator of what to expect...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Though I'm disappointed that phantom tree got pushed down :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on March 03, 2014, 06:13:35 am
Well there goes the Spider Web hype in OU.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 03, 2014, 11:01:51 pm
Smogon's February useage statistics are up (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/official-smogon-university-simulator-statistics-%E2%80%94-february-2014.3501320/)
Breloom, Speed Deoxys, Galvantula, Smeargle, Goodra, and Trevenant are now UU
the 1760 stats, however, are a bit closer to PO's predictions.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on March 04, 2014, 01:20:14 am
So, I take it in free battle legendaries aren't banned? Cus if they ain't, I;m just gonna join in on the legendary spam I've had 10 matches in a row.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 04, 2014, 02:11:29 am
I'm pretty sure they aren't.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on March 04, 2014, 02:34:31 am
OH YEAH TIME FOR FAIRY TYPE ARCEUS.
Cus I really hate Darkrai.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 04, 2014, 02:34:59 am
Just use MegaTwo Y. Goodbye Dark Void Spam, hello Aura Sphere.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 04, 2014, 06:42:17 am
Yeah, Mewtwo Y pretty much tells Darkrai to just cut the shennanigans and fight him like a man... A fight that Darkrai will most likely lose if he does not have a choice scarf.
After some battle maison fun times I can say with confidence that I do not oppose mega kangaskhan being banned at all. The AI cheat gimmicks are the only things that keep me from single-handedly sweeping everyone with it. Heck, not even the AI is that good at no-flinching from double rock slides. Not even a ghost type can escape my power up punch buffs because I can mega evolve AFTER I land one as scrappy regular Khan. No ordinary pokemon can really counter that thing.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 04, 2014, 06:48:32 am
The AI cheating is the main reason I don't like running Sucker Punch if it's not completely required for the mon (like Bisharp). I had way too much trouble with mons just spamming Calm Mind or something on my attempts to Sucker Punch and immediately nail me with some boosted attack when I used another move. I've gotten smarter, but meh it's still annoying to deal with. And yeah, let MegaKhan wreck Ubers instead.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 04, 2014, 07:03:21 am
The AI is never good with boost moves. Most of the time they try to max their stats so I play around it. Now miraculous outspeeding, moves with less than 100 accuracy having 0 accuracy, moves with 100 accuracy having 0 accuracy because of a weather ability/bright powder, flinch rates being 100%, doling out more critical hits than gen 1 Persian...that nonsense...ugh
Anyways now I'm gonna build team bullshit to mine points from battle facilities
Kangaskahn --------------------- Ability: Scrappy Power Up Punch Return Rock Slide Sucker Punch hold: Kangaskahnite
Blaziken --------------------- Ability: Speed Boost Protect Swords Dance Flare Blitz Brick Break (Never ever use high jump kick in battle maison) hold: Life Orb
and member 3 is probably gonna be like, something with moody. By exploiting the power of game freak's odd sense of balance, re-earning my items over and over will become less frustrating!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 04, 2014, 07:06:16 am
The AI is never good with boost moves. Most of the time they try to max their stats so I play around it. Now miraculous outspeeding, moves with less than 100 accuracy having 0 accuracy, moves with 100 accuracy having 0 accuracy because of a weather ability/bright powder, flinch rates being 100%, doling out more critical hits than gen 1 Persian...that nonsense...ugh
I've grown to do the same with my playing. It doesn't help that every mon that runs taunt will always use it as soon as anything happens ever so it's really easy to play around that. It's stupid but idk. I'm not worried about earning back my items as badly. I've have over 2,000 BP from the Battle Maison alone. The Super Lines give you hella BP on large enough streaks. I say you throw SwagKey on that team just to make setting up all the more braindead. It's against an unfair AI so it's justified.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 04, 2014, 07:12:26 am
Swagger will not work when they start cheating though seeing the AI falling victim to prankster is hilarious.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 04, 2014, 07:15:03 am
Then just abuse Prankster in every other way possible yeah.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on March 04, 2014, 11:16:53 am
On the subject of Battle Haxon...
XXGW-WWWW-WWW5-T5H2
Old-ish video, but yeah. TEAMWORK!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 04, 2014, 04:05:54 pm
So there's this HUGE heated debate going on in Smogon right now about using revising the tier system to use the 1760 stats to determine tier lists (basically, they want the tiers to be determined by the usage stats of the top 2% of Pokemon players instead of by the top 50%, which is what they're currently using). Their reason? The elitists don't want Donphan to be in OU anymore.
I honestly wish I was kidding about the part about Donphan, but I'll leave this here for your own reading "enjoyment" of counting how many times Donphan is mentioned:
- Great physical wall - Great spinner & supporter - One of the few pokes that have a priority move for coverage - Sturdy - Knock off getting boosted improves his support movepool
And that is pretty much it. It has bad special defense and low speed and is quite easy to work around him. I still think Donphan can sit in OU comfortably (thought still unable to resist the top 3 threats on OU nowadays) as a good physical wall.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on March 07, 2014, 12:19:03 am
Celebrating the first anniversary of Nagoya Pokemon Center, Trainers will get a Junichi Masuda autograph trainer information card, which by the way shows him owing 758 pokemon.
- Great physical wall - Great spinner & supporter - One of the few pokes that have a priority move for coverage - Sturdy - Knock off getting boosted improves his support movepool
And that is pretty much it. It has bad special defense and low speed and is quite easy to work around him. I still think Donphan can sit in OU comfortably (thought still unable to resist the top 3 threats on OU nowadays) as a good physical wall.
From what I gather, the issues with Donphan are:
Physical bulk, but no form of recovery (Both of which Hippowdon has in addition to better special bulk)
Because of no recovery, it needs as much defensive investment it can get, which severely limits its offensive presence. (0 Atk Ice Shard fails to even 4HKO Therian Landorus and Gliscor)
Needs Rapid Spin in order to be OU "viable", which Excadrill can also do while maintaining a much better offensive presence, and still have some form of bulk.
Fierce competition from buffed Defog, which cannot be blocked except by Taunt, but otherwise the only major drawback to Defog is giving Bisharp a free +2 attack
Severe 4 moveslot syndrome: Donphan gets a ton of utility options and wants to use all of them, but can't
Donphan's main niche from gen 5, which was a Rapid Spinner on sun teams, is now nonexistent due to Drought being nerfed.
Donphan is complete setup bait, unlike Hippowdon which can use Whirlwind. True, Donphan does gets Roar, but then there's the aforementioned 4 Moveslot Syndrome
Offensive Donphan is just too slow to use with Rock Polish, especially when faster and more offensive ground types like Landorus exist who can do the job better
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Prince_Bren on March 08, 2014, 03:15:05 am
I love this game, if you want to exchange fc with me,pm me. I have a chespin/ivysaur/oddish safari and I have a massive stash of hasty genesects that I cloned from my download event from white 2 . My pokebank trial has expired now though so please no special requests :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 08, 2014, 03:16:45 am
You should post your FC in this thread. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/post-your-3ds-friend-codes-154824.0.html) I'd like to get my hands on a Chlorophyll Ivysaur and Bulletproof Chespin, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on March 08, 2014, 01:20:24 pm
Pretty much one of the only fights I've won, I've been sweeped alot by other people because I've messed up somewhere. (Like accidentally hitting a Dark type with a Ghost move once cost me two Pokes)
EVFG-WWWW-WWW6-XG6P
I felt too overpowered so at around move 10, I was playing around with the fella a little, I regret doing that now.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on March 08, 2014, 01:25:12 pm
Is it possible to watch these without having a 3DS?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on March 08, 2014, 01:43:21 pm
Unless I were to manually record the whole fight using a capturing device for the 3DS or have a crappy quality version recorded with a phone or something.
Then no, You'd need a 3DS with Pokemon X/Y
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Watta on March 08, 2014, 01:46:11 pm
Ok thanks
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
:disappointed:
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on March 08, 2014, 08:40:43 pm
Unless I were to manually record the whole fight using a capturing device for the 3DS or have a crappy quality version recorded with a phone or something.
Then no, You'd need a 3DS with Pokemon X/Y
This reminds me:
3DS needs to have an easy way to record footage...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Sheng Long on March 08, 2014, 09:30:34 pm
Unless I were to manually record the whole fight using a capturing device for the 3DS or have a crappy quality version recorded with a phone or something.
Then no, You'd need a 3DS with Pokemon X/Y
This reminds me:
3DS needs to have an easy way to record footage...
More like "any handheld system."
Though I recall that Nintendo DOES have a way to record 3DS footage, though it's for developers only. The only other option is to get the 3DS modded (or any other handheld system for that matter0 to do this. So until 3DS gets proper emulation to record from desktop screens, we're very limited to how we can record footage from 3DS.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on March 08, 2014, 09:49:59 pm
There's a few places that sell 3DS capture cards to work with your PC, I might consider picking one up sometime soon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on March 08, 2014, 11:13:49 pm
Yeah, but would the capture card work on a un-modded 3DS?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 08, 2014, 11:16:21 pm
I imagine so.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on March 08, 2014, 11:21:00 pm
Hmm...
I might pick one up as soon as I get a better computer...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on March 09, 2014, 05:02:22 am
So get this.
My Internet was super crappy earlier (Xan knows this) and I lost my connection to this random passerby person like an hour ago. Yeah, he purely thought I rage quit the match and has been trying to harass me ever since, spamming trade requests with specifically called Pokemon "Hyogo u coward, fight me till, the last Pokemon"
I don't get why I'm getting harassed over an accident so I was trying to play the game a little and I notice the little Shout out things, he was saying things like "Hyogo u coward" "U abandoned baby" "come at me bro" "fight till the end"
...is having a connection loss this serious now?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 09, 2014, 07:03:31 am
Iirc, Pokecheck is adding a method of uploading battle videos to their server, which can then be replayed using Showdown's replay engine. They currently have this for Gen 5.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 09, 2014, 08:02:58 am
You just found a "Pokemon, serious business" person. Quite unlucky from your part. Everything he´s doing is so sad, oh my...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: TempesT on March 09, 2014, 08:58:14 am
lol just rematch him, what's the big deal?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 09, 2014, 09:00:50 am
It'd probably cut out again. It cut out twice in a row when I battled him earlier today.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on March 09, 2014, 01:05:51 pm
Worst part is, It happened around the time he pulled out his Mega Gengar while I had my Furfrou out, Made it seem worse than it was.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 10, 2014, 06:56:41 pm
After some Battle Maison fun times, I have come under the impression that Speed Boost Blaziken is a lot better in Wi Fi than it is in quick CPU battles. Like, I never ever found myself with the right time to Swords Dance and when I thought I would, the opposing pokemon would of course turn out to have a super effective move and 1 hit kill or close to one hit kill Blaziken because Blaziken has about as much stamina as WWE superstar Batista. He's still good but I found myself forced to ditch swords dance and instead have him hold a wide lens and give him the hardest hitting moves it can learn. Mega Khan is still the real ace of Team Bullshit.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 10, 2014, 08:40:57 pm
That´s the problem. The battle installations in many games doesn´t let you set up cause then you are victim of hax or opponent gets a crit. Some force you to go with coverage... always.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on March 10, 2014, 11:43:39 pm
awww...this should brighten ur day fellow pokemon trainers. :)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 11, 2014, 11:43:24 pm
Speaking of Pikachu...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 12, 2014, 05:14:51 am
You know the battle maison is getting fed up with your nonsense when you are fighting veteran after veteran. I'm gonna be seeing Heatrans in my nightmares.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 12, 2014, 05:15:37 am
You mean you weren't already?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 12, 2014, 05:22:52 am
I was always shocked how everyone and their mother had legendaries in any battle facility of any generation. I saw way too many dogs (Suicune, Entei, Raikou) birds (Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres) Regis and Eonic dragons... let´s not forget Heatran. Like a lot. It was unbearable... it was in Platinum btw, long before replaying it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on March 12, 2014, 05:31:02 am
Funny thing is that one time my big win streak was ended by an Umbreon and Roserade of all things in Super Doubles.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 12, 2014, 05:34:12 am
Well okay, it didn't exactly pose too big a threat, but its boosting has wrecked quite a few of my teams because its bulk is stupid and so is confusion.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 12, 2014, 05:38:16 am
I don't care what tier Umbreon is it is still one of the most annoying pokemon to ever exist.
I finally beat Nita in Super Singles Battle. I feel proud of myself even though 2/3rds of my team are pretty much ubers.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 12, 2014, 05:40:49 am
I only beat her with one uber my first try. Landorus was Choice locked into Extrasensory as Mega WaifuMawile set up Swords Dance and swept...right before Tornadus did stupid Double Team Substitute shenanigans and killed her with Focus Miss.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 12, 2014, 06:06:48 am
At least the Battle Maison lets you change up your team in-between each battle this time around, as opposed to the facilities of the previous gens where you had to endure 7 matches without any breaks before you could change to your team specially designed to take out the facility leader, only for your team to lose on the first match of the next 7-match streak...
Out of curiousity, which uber are we talking about here?
Speed Boost Blaziken. I didn't even use it in that battle, so it barely counts. Noivern cleaned up after MegaWile went down.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on March 12, 2014, 09:43:55 am
Yeah, at around 40+, the Vets show up with their legendaries. My brother and I got lucky as they kept using Regi "the Explosion" rock and either Moltres or Articuno.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 12, 2014, 09:33:36 pm
Welp, Forretress and Donphan just got "banned" from OU...
RIP hazard setting spinner bug thing...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on March 12, 2014, 09:36:47 pm
Banned as in Ubers or banned from OU and up?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 12, 2014, 09:40:53 pm
Banned as in they "suck" so much that the OU analyses that were written for those two Pokemon had to be removed by the staff.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on March 12, 2014, 09:46:08 pm
That is so stupid banned for sucking? what? I bet this is only the beginning too until they have their own "perfect meta game" if there is any legit reason to boycott smogon this is probably one of them.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 12, 2014, 10:08:57 pm
Wow okay. Fuck choice, it's all about conformity.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 13, 2014, 02:38:20 am
Smogon setting a stupid banning standard... why?? Forretress and Donphan are still usable in OU (the first more than the latter). What´s up with this banning criteria??
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 13, 2014, 02:51:41 am
They're not actually like banned, they're just buried.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on March 13, 2014, 03:18:53 am
I miss Scrafty being a good Pokemon. He was a shining star that faded too soon :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 13, 2014, 03:22:39 am
You can blame Fairies for that. He is still pretty fearsome cause he´s really versatile (Three great abilities) but fairies... better run away. He may not be the best but he´s really good still.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on March 13, 2014, 03:27:59 am
VGC '14 > OU
Scrafty is still good in that format.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 13, 2014, 03:22:03 pm
Further update on the whole Donphan/Forretress mess:
Turns out Smogon recently implemented a policy change, and are now officially using 1760 ladder stats to determine tiers, effective immediately. (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/np-xy-uu-stage-0-i-lived.3500312/page-10#post-5297785) As a result:
Pokemon that are now OU:
Zapdos
Keldeo
Chansey
Kyurem-B
Deoxys-D
Terrakion
Manaphy
Deoxys-S
Landorus-I
Latias
Pokemon that are now UU:
Donphan
Klefki
Starmie
Smeargle
Tentacruel
Sableye
Cloyster
Forretress
Galvantula
Salamence
Trevenant
While I'm saddened that Trevenant and Starmie are now UU, I'm sort of happy Zapdos made it back into OU after last gen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 13, 2014, 06:28:51 pm
the plus side is Black Kyurem is OU. No fucking way that thing is UU. It's a few moves short of being Ubers really. *Arpa prays that Black Kyurem somehow gets the refrigerate ability*
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 13, 2014, 06:56:47 pm
*Arpa prays that Black Kyurem somehow gets the refrigerate ability*
0+ SpA Teravolt Kyurem-B Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 188 SpD Mega Venusaur: 182-216 (50 - 59.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 200 Atk Refrigerate Kyurem-B Return vs. 252 HP / 68 Def Thick Fat Mega Venusaur: 204-242 (56 - 66.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0+ SpA Teravolt Kyurem-B Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Dragonite: 504-592 (130.5 - 153.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO 200 Atk Refrigerate Kyurem-B Return vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 540-636 (139.8 - 164.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
200 Atk Kyurem-B Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 309-364 (43.8 - 51.7%) -- 10.9% chance to 2HKO 200 Atk Refrigerate Kyurem-B Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 342-403 (48.5 - 57.2%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO
As scary as that is, its still murdered by Bullet Punch & Mach Punch. The only thing it really loses is being able to wreck Wash Rotom with Earth Power in exchange for being able to reliably 2HKO eviolite Chansey with something that isnt Outrage.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on March 13, 2014, 07:02:24 pm
So basically, OU is now just more legendaries and less not legendary?
Anything effective immediately always sounds super evil.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 13, 2014, 07:06:13 pm
So basically, OU is now just more legendaries and less not legendary?
Anything effective immediately always sounds super evil.
With the exception of Zapdos, Latias, Keldeo, and Chansey, the rest of the newcomers to OU were formerly BL tier (which is essentially the UU equivalent of ubers) before the policy change
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 13, 2014, 08:43:56 pm
Klefki and Salamence on UU?? oh lordy lord, lol. I still disagree with Forretress and Donphan but the rest seems reasonable enough. Funny to think Latias, Keldeo and Zapdos where UU... wow.
Kyurem-B is definitely a threat for how hard that thing hits but Scizor and Breloom are pretty damn common in an OU team and with Technician?? yeah
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 13, 2014, 09:39:50 pm
Breloom is actually having a hard time staying in OU, I dont expect him to still be there by the time gen 7 rolls around.
At least stuff like Espeon is still in OU because Espeon is what makes full Baton Pass teams actually viable in OU.
Salamence is more or less UU now because hes outclassed by the other dragons (Dragon Dance? Nope, Mega Charizard X and Dragonite. Choice Scarf/Specs? Nope, Latios. Wallbreaker? Nope, Latios, Mega Garchomp, and Black Kyurem. Mixed attacker? Nope, Mega Garchomp. Intimidate/Moxie? Lol, Not DragonGyarados).
Even UU stuff like Dragon Dance Zygarde has Extremespeed to avoid being revenge killed by priority users, and he still outclasses Salamence in the DD department.
And to think that Salamence was uber at one point... Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on March 14, 2014, 12:41:34 pm
Hmm...
I am effectively ignoring Smogon at this point.
Their standards seem to be all over the place. Forretress is perfectly defeatable if you have fire types.
You do have fire-types, right?
Also, their suggestions are not really helping me win Battle Maison, where BP flows like water.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 14, 2014, 03:19:35 pm
Their standards seem to be all over the place. Forretress is perfectly defeatable if you have fire types.
I think you missed the point of the discussion at hand. The discussion wasn't if Forretress was unbeatable, but the exact polar opposite; that it sucks.
EDIT: To clarify, this applies only to OU. Forretress will most likely have no problems making a name for itself in UU, and Forretress has always had some kind of presence in ubers (the fact that its not viable in OU anymore doesnt mean much in this regard when Shedinja was never viable in OU, yet had a presence in ubers last gen due to Kyogre). Posted: March 14, 2014, 07:01:20 pm UPDATE:
Almost forgot that the Pokebank trial wont be available after today.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 14, 2014, 07:21:00 pm
Assuming that the 1760 decision is retroactive to previous generations, this effectively means that Chansey, Slowbro, Stoutland, Weavile, and Zapdos have all risen to Gen 5 OU while Cloyster, Conkeldurr, Dugtrio, Gastrodon, Hydreigon, Infernape, Jolteon, Lucario, Metagross, and Vaporeon have fallen down to Gen 5 UU...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 14, 2014, 07:36:56 pm
I'm gonna enjoy hearing about Hydreigon, Lucario, and Infernape running amok through UU. I'm pretty sure most of them are gonna end up BL.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 14, 2014, 07:41:32 pm
I'm still laughing about how many dragons dropped down to UU because they can't press the Button as liberally as before. It's as if they think Outrage is the only good thing about dragons.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 14, 2014, 08:32:55 pm
Hydreigon in UU?? oh my god, better pack a fairy for that thing. In all seriousness, some things aren´t right with this new tier criteria. Some pokemon fit in the tier but some other don´t. Infernape in UU?? yeah...
Too bad for Salamence. The metagame is pretty demanding for pokemon to fullfil specific tasks (wall breaker and stuff) and while Salamence can do many tasks well it doesn´t excel in any and there are better options for that. He´s still really good and still can be in used in OU effectively IMO but I don´t how it will work with this criteria.
BRB UU just got really freaking good. Hell yeah!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 14, 2014, 08:45:38 pm
Hydreigon in UU?? oh my god, better pack a fairy for that thing.
Hydreigon was always UU this gen. My last post was in regards to the Gen 5 (BWB2W2) tiers where fairy type didn't exist yet.
And Lucario is still OU this gen so far due to Extremespeed beating out all other forms of priority, even with its Megastone banned. In fact, Life Orb Extremespeed hits harder than MegaLuke's Extemespeed ever did. The only things its lacking is that sexy 112 base speed and that nuclear powered Adaptability Close Combat.
That and Lucario can switch in against Knockoff users to get a free +1 attack boost from Justified and even threaten some of them out, notably Bisharp.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 14, 2014, 09:28:24 pm
For real?? I still disagree with that but that´s just me.
So those stats were on previous gen OU... I see, pretty interesting. I wonder how many of the cases will really end in UU (I heard Metagross was a solid case for UU due to losing resistances)
In another note, is really funny how viable shedinja is in Ubers. It requires a lot of support but if the field is free he can work around many pokes in Ubers... even MegaLucario if it doesn´t have a dark/fire/rock move. I don´t know what fourth move does MegaLucario have besides Bullet Punch, Close Combat and Extremespeed... need some help here.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 14, 2014, 09:30:54 pm
Nasty Plot MegaLuke sometimes carries Dark Pulse (mine does, anyways), so there's that. Besides, a 4X weakness apparently is enough to drop Hydreigon down. That's kind of silly but idk. Fairies are weird.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nexelous on March 14, 2014, 10:11:21 pm
If anybody wanna add me for Friend Safaris you can check my profile.
But seriously I'm confused, What Pokemon do I actually have in the Friend Safari? Even though that I caught a Shiny Duosion when I was in one of my friend's Safari. yet i still hunting for alot of shinies.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 16, 2014, 03:56:56 am
Btw, regarding the Gen 5 usage stats that I posted earlier:
past gen tiers are locked in and will not be updated further.
Posted: March 16, 2014, 09:22:31 am Speaking of Smogon...
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If you think of the tier lists as a high school, you can easily discern what the cliques are. The NU and UU tiers are composed of the losers while the OU tier is filled with the funny, clean, cool, and not to mention attractive Pokemon that all the others want to be. Blissey is a part of the popular clique and is one of the most popular girls at school. Even though some people just plain hate the sight of her, she's been done and used over and over again by men and women alike, and shows no signs of stopping; nobody can resist tapping into her juicy goodness. However, Blissey wasn't always that awesome diva with the rockin' bod. You see, in her younger years, Blissey - or Happiny as she was known back then - was a bit dim. She was always put in the lowest reading group and also very overweight for her age. The most popular boy in school, Munchlax, always got straight As, was great at sports, and had tons of friends. Everyone would always choose Munchlax over Happiny, and there was no surprise why. Munchlax was everything Happiny could ever be, but better. And all that time, Happiny would just sulk, wishing - just wishing - that she had a Special Attack stat over 8; that her Defense and Attack stats were over 7; that her max EV-invested Special Defense wasn't merely marginally better than Munchlax's minimum invested Special Defense; that she didn't suck. So until she grew up, Happiny would just crawl into her dark corner in silence, where she belonged.
Using her Serene Grace, Happiny would dance around the playground, causing all of the other children to laugh at her, which distracted them long enough to cause them to forget to attack her, which allowed Happiny to Headbutt them in a blind rage built from years and years of verbal abuse. Happiny also had the tendency to expel mysterious gases, produced by feasting on pot stickers and entire ice cream cakes for lunch every day no doubt, which reduced the chance of her bullies attacking her to 60%. Because of their brute power, these waves of odor were named Thunder Wave in homage to Thor, the Nordic god of thunder. Although they could not fully bear the force of her mighty Thunder Wave, Ghost-types were still unaffected by Happiny's attempts to Headbutt them all the same. Upon her realization of this fact, Happiny ventured to the mountains to train herself in mind and body. After two vigorous years, Happiny finally returned with the ability to fortify her Headbutts with Psychic energy and attack her ghastly predators with Zen Headbutt. However, these Zen Headbutts were still hideously weak against all except for Gastly, who, due to his Poison typing, was hit very hard by it for some strange, illogical reason. However, no pain in the entire world could match to the pain caused by one of Happiny's most hated of all, Bronzor. But, although she hated Bronzor oh so much, she could not bear to hurt him. You see, Happiny loved Bronzor, once upon a time. She used to watch him from the bushes as he Recycled trash; as he showered himself with his static Rain Dance; as he polished his lustrous coat. She used to smell him; fondle him while he slept; and stand in front of him intentionally so as to feel his soft breath brush against the nape of her nonexistent neck. One day, Happiny mustered enough courage to ask Bronzor to the Poke Ball that was held every winter, and to her unending joy, he said yes. However, to her shock, on the day of the dance, Happiny was left alone; Bronzor had eloped with Buneary to Cancun. They were to marry in June. In an undeterred rage, Happiny chased after him and assassinated him with a punch infused with the flames of her passion – a Fire Punch. Happiny had to forgo her Zen Headbutts in order to manage this feat; zen and passion are as non-polar as oil to water. Gligar enjoyed the smell of Happiny's Thunder Waves because he was kind of “not-right-in-the-head” so he followed Happiny to the ends of the earth so closely that he stepped on the backs of Happiny’s shoes. Happiny despised this to no end; she loved her shoes – they were the kind that made little blinking lights when she walked. Because of this, Happiny learned the ancient art of freezing her breath in cold fury and destroyed Gligar with powerful Ice Beams.
Leftovers was Happiny's preferred item, as her metabolism necessitated a constant supply of food, lest she become irritable. However, sometimes Happiny's parents forced her to take Oran Berries to school instead, which were much healthier and healed her much more in a short period of time, although Happiny did act out often in class in the absence of her Leftovers. Happiny sometimes lost control of her urges and violated her opponents with sloppy Sweet Kisses that confused them and added on to the flinching and paralysis to create even less of a chance for them to hit her. However, whenever she, herself, had been violated with statuses such as burn, paralysis, or poison, she could always use her rape whistle provided by her teachers, which they oh-so-cleverly labeled a “Heal Bell”, to summon them to heal her and her colleagues that were also in the same predicament. Investing in her HP to the maximum capacity allowed Happiny to sustain physical attacks from bullies, while its 76 Defense EVs helped it take the physical bullying better, bringing its Defense stat to a mighty 8. With full investment, aided by her naturally Adamant nature, Happiny managed to muster 11 Attack, which was just enough to 3HKO defensive Magikarp that taunted Happiny in swim class and 2HKO defensive Combee that put honey in her hair and messed up her ponytail during recess.
Despite her abuse, Happiny does have a few friends, although they secretly hate her and only hang out with her in order to mess with her. Pineco was one of her first; however, he is also one of her most heinous. Pineco enjoys littering the floor around Happiny's feet with Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Stealth Rock, horribly mutilating her appendages as she attempts to escape them. Ironically, these hazards keep Happiny's enemies away from her in the process of isolating her. Pineco's sadism would lead one to believe that Happiny would avoid him like the Plague; however, Pineco has a harsh compulsion to attack random bystanders with his vicious Bug Bites, which steal berries that obstruct Happiny's attempts to defend herself. He can also take on Happiny's Fighting-type bullies when he feels like getting into a fight. Sometimes, when Pineco is gone, Budew comes out to "play" as well, employing the exact same, deadly strategy with identical ramifications, except instead of assaulting villains with Bug Bite, she spreads her Stun Spore uncontrollably due to an uncontrollable twitch she has due to her ADHD. Duskull loves antagonizing Happiny and works together with the entry hazard antagonizers by providing spinblocking support and defending the group from Fighting-types. Gligar likes Happiny and follows her everywhere (EVERYWHERE) and due to his lack of coordination, steps on the backs of Happiny's shoes, which are really nice and have cool lights that blink when she walks. However, he does have his merits, luring special attackers such as Mantyke that don't bother Happiny as much. Gligar also enjoys the paralysis that Happiny causes because it helps him sweep. Wynaut just sits there like a dumbass, but she does help Happiny get to her classes and confrontations without getting harassed on the way. Mankey was useful to have around, as he was such a hyperactive fellow, and U-turned around uncontrollably, scouting Happiny's enemies.
Happiny had the uncanny ability to manipulate gravity by using her weight, which could have been helpful to increase entry hazard damage on forced switches for above-ground foes. Happiny could also use her Presents to trick her bullies with gifts that would blow up in their faces, albeit sometimes healing them. During her stay in the mountains, Happiny trained herself in the sacred arts of Judo, letting her create Light Screens using her Chi that shielded her Special Defense and lured physical assaults that she could skillfully Counter, dealing great damage to her enemies. However, due to the kamikaze nature of this tactic, she could only use it once before she became crippled, which only added another thing for the other Pokekids to poke fun of. Sometimes, when Happiny felt like garnering attention from the other kids, she used Copycat to mimic everything they did. The annoyed reaction / human contact that resulted validated Happiny's existence and made her feel alive. However, whenever things got rough, Happiny would throw mud at her opponents eyes to blind them and run away. This tactic is sometimes called a “Mud Slap” in some dialects. After everything in her arsenal was used up, Happiny sometimes became so frustrated in her lack of options that she lashed out with a weak Last Resort as her spectators laughed and jeered at her insecurity. After all, Happiny didn't have many options to use.
As long as they could prevent her noxious gases from paralyzing them, everything had the potential to utterly destroy Happiny. She was a pathetic excuse of a Pokemon. She knew it back then, and she knows it to this day (How do Blissey and Happiny live in the same time period, you ask? Well, that information is classified. Sorry.)
Source: https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/happiny
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Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on March 16, 2014, 11:19:38 am
You've only just read that? Lol, you're slow :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 16, 2014, 11:29:36 am
Lol, the first time I read that I bursted out in laughter. Sadly, it is true for the poor happiny. No one cares for Little Cup anyways :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 16, 2014, 07:18:15 pm
My personal favorite is the gen 4 analysis for Spinda
https://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/spinda
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 16, 2014, 07:20:13 pm
And then there's Farfetch'd's BW analysis. (https://www.smogon.com/bw/pokemon/farfetchd)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on March 17, 2014, 06:52:24 am
My 3DS is still in repair so I haven't been playing on cartridge for a while, but I take back what I said about Scrafty, because I was on Pokemon Showdown using a Dragon Dance set with a standard Whimsicott set, and they have really good synergy together (well, except for that "both weak to Flying-type" thing). Yes, those are still my two favorite Gen V Pokemon, and I make it a point to have them on my team in one form or another.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on March 18, 2014, 03:49:43 am
Arrrrgh, I got called a 'pussy' for forfeiting the battle with someone, It's not like they're losing.
If anything, It's an easy win. Personally I'd prefer them to forfeit the match instead of powering off or turning their Wi-Fi off. I just think it's an act of respect, Maybe I'm wrong and could be the bad player.
I had no hope of winning, It was both our last pokemon, I don't see the big deal with some players :/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: drewski90 on March 18, 2014, 03:54:36 am
i know this sounds like off-topic but has anyone seen the 16th movie?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 18, 2014, 03:59:59 am
It is off-topic. This is about X and Y, not whatever Pokemon news comes to mind.
They're shaming you for supposed cowardice. "OHH THEY DIDN'T LET ME BEAT THEM ABSOLUTELY HOW UN-MANLY THIS OFFENDS ME" or something stupid like that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: drewski90 on March 18, 2014, 04:02:20 am
also that reminds me, does anyone try holding down the down button and b at the same time, does it happen before you use a pokeball or not, because i'm having hard times trying to capture legendary pokemon, also i want to know if it's still being used or has it been removed?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 18, 2014, 04:11:03 am
Arrrrgh, I got called a 'pussy' for forfeiting the battle with someone, It's not like they're losing.
If anything, It's an easy win. Personally I'd prefer them to forfeit the match instead of powering off or turning their Wi-Fi off. I just think it's an act of respect, Maybe I'm wrong and could be the bad player.
I had no hope of winning, It was both our last pokemon, I don't see the big deal with some players :/
You denied him the satisfaction of the finishing blow which annoys some people.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on March 18, 2014, 04:23:10 am
Some people don't deserve that lust of getting the final blow.
Especially if it's a moment where they need to use a Mega mon to take down my Heliolisk, My one has piss poor defense :L Still, Silly that some people can take that stuff too seriously. But nobody loves a coward I guess.
Just had a weird turn of events on a battle where my Meowstic took down 5 of this persons Pokes after having my ass handed to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on March 18, 2014, 11:28:30 am
also that reminds me, does anyone try holding down the down button and b at the same time, does it happen before you use a pokeball or not, because i'm having hard times trying to capture legendary pokemon, also i want to know if it's still being used or has it been removed?
It never worked, lol. It's all in the mind.
Uh... I mean, try shouting "GOTCHA" really loudly into the microphone. That one still works.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 18, 2014, 03:59:53 pm
also that reminds me, does anyone try holding down the down button and b at the same time, does it happen before you use a pokeball or not, because i'm having hard times trying to capture legendary pokemon, also i want to know if it's still being used or has it been removed?
Wait... people still believe that rumor?
Also, because nobody announced it here yet, Japan is getting an event Darkrai with Enigma berry to coincide with the release of the new movie.
... What does Enigma berry even do anymore now that the E-reader is dead?
EDIT: In other news, its finally happening (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/look-xy-ou-suspect-process-round-2-swag-look.3502265/).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 18, 2014, 04:28:44 pm
No Custap Berry disappoints me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on March 18, 2014, 06:35:26 pm
Also, because nobody announced it here yet, Japan is getting an event Darkrai with Enigma berry to coincide with the release of the new movie.
... What does Enigma berry even do anymore now that the E-reader is dead?
It restores a quarter of a pokemon's HP if hit by a super effective move. Not really all that useful honestly. Also, they already gave us a Darkrai holding that berry when the Darkrai movie came out. I guess this one at least has 3 assured perfect IVs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 19, 2014, 01:04:09 am
To be fair, in RBY , catch rate was tied to the RNG which could be mainpulated by specific button presses on specific frames, but it's pretty much impossible to manipulate reliable outside of TAS.
Although a lot of people believe in it because it was mentioned as a tip in Nintendo Power.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 19, 2014, 05:11:49 am
Battle with Xan using new teams:
XC5W-WWWW-WWW6-8LMZ
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 19, 2014, 05:17:56 am
I miss the days when I actually put up a fight.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on March 19, 2014, 11:30:48 am
I don't miss those days because I'll probably not even put up a fight ._.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on March 19, 2014, 03:16:33 pm
Have I mentioned how much I love Super Luck Absol? Because I love Super Luck Absol
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on March 21, 2014, 12:43:53 pm
Nintendo is stupid and won't let me take Pokemon X&Y screenshots, so you'll just have to take my word that I just transferred my CROWN Raikou over with no problems. It's AWESOME.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 24, 2014, 07:09:29 pm
So some competitive news from Smogon:
Hawlucha, Mega Houndoom, Salamence, Magnezone, Haxorus, Hydreigon, Crawdaunt, Klefki, and Therian Thundurus have all been banned from UU.
Swagger is now banned in UU. Suspect tests currently ongoing for OU.
Well that certainly didn't last too long... Posted: March 25, 2014, 04:31:03 pm So looks like after Swagger gets the banhammer, Baton Pass is next on the chopping block (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/look-xy-ou-suspect-process-round-2-swag-read-post-34-look.3502265/page-2)...
... Really?
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Why do I get the feeling that its all just a campaign to remove Espeon from OU like what happened to Donphan and Forretress?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 27, 2014, 12:46:21 am
Here's a battle with me testing out a few new mons along with some old standbys. I really should play more seriously sometimes. 46DW-WWWW-WWW6-DTWS
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nexelous on March 27, 2014, 12:54:07 am
How the heck Klefki got banned in UU that quick? Maybe those keys are too powerful to handle.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 27, 2014, 12:59:42 am
Let's just say everybody over there threw a 20+ page fit about Klefki and leave it at that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 27, 2014, 05:03:51 am
Speaking of throwing fits... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=872IxzeupAk)
For those who don't know, this is the guy who "won" a few VGC tournaments by using Drifblim with Minimize + Stockpile + Baton Pass and a Dunsparce (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZSapv3JHbU), who hates Smogon for not only bashing him for his strategy, but also because they banned Mega Lucario last month. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp-LPOMCg3A)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 27, 2014, 05:05:29 am
For those who don't know, you are all incredibly lucky.
Fixed. Seriously, I just can't believe idiots like him get such a high profile.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 27, 2014, 05:23:45 am
I´d try to go to tournaments if I could use moody bibarel and fullfill my dream of a bibarel sweep... or even better... an smeargle sweep!
In all seriousness, everyone is free to play the way they want but smogon clauses make a lot of sense to make the game more enjoyable because seriously, I play the battle facilities on every game and I swear to God finding anything using double team is the most annoying thing ever... especially if it is an Umbreon...
He´s just doing a "fuck Smogon" just because. Won´t even bother watching the video.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 27, 2014, 06:03:07 am
He also repeatedly compares VGC to singles, which are two completely different monsters; Mega Lucario, Mega Kangaskhan, and Blaziken are a hell of a lot more manageable in Doubles and VGC than they are in singles, even with MegaKhan still being a pain in the ass in VGC. The only ubers poke that is just as troublesome in VGC as he is in Singles is Mega Gengar, if only because of Perish Song + Protect + Substitute that can easily wipe out half the opponent's team since you're only allowed 4 Pokemon instead of the usual 6.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on March 27, 2014, 06:12:58 am
^ A typical case of not knowing the difference and irrational hate. If you know the true definition behind something, ask then draw conclusions.
I sincerely don´t get the differences between VGC and singles. I don´t know why Armaldo in singles is terrible and in need of a lot of support and is VGC is a force to be reckoned with. I just don´t know.
I only know VGC doesn´t obey tier listing... that much.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 27, 2014, 06:13:27 am
VGC is doubles as well. :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 27, 2014, 02:40:10 pm
VGC is basically 4v4 Doubles with item clause and event legends like Keldeo are banned. They also typically start off each gen with Pokemon that can only be hatched/caught natively within the latest gen games so stuff like Entei and Hyper Voice Sylveon are banned this year (since the former isn't native to Kalos and the latter requires B2W2 tutor moves) but won't be next year.
I don´t know why Armaldo in singles is terrible and in need of a lot of support and is VGC is a force to be reckoned with. I just don´t know.
In VGC12, Drizzle + Swift Swim wasn't banned (which it was in Smogon's Gen 5 Singles) and Armaldo had the offensive typing to actually make the cut in VGC12 and could take out threats that other Swift Swimmers could not, such as the Lati twins and Cresselia, in addition to other big threats such as Tyranitar, Hydreigon, and Heatran. Its pitiful base 45 speed under rain with Swift Swim gave it the equivalent of 142 base speed that, while it couldn't outspeed other Swift Swimmers like Kingdra, still make it relatively fast. It also gets stab Rock Slide, which is an excellent move in Doubles/VGC in general. And besides this, Armaldo can also fit on Trick Room teams as well, which are much more common in Doubles/VGC than in Singles.
In Singles, however, Armaldo can't abuse Swift Swim as easily and its primary niche is Rapid Spin, of which it isn't particularly useful at doing since not only is it vulnerable to Spikes and Toxic Spikes, but its weak to Stealth Rock as well. Regarding hazard removal, not only was it outclassed in the higher tiers by rapid spinners like Starmie and Forretress, but even in lower tiers its outclassed in hazard prevention by Taunt Samurott and Misdreavus. Its also highly susceptible to being revenge killed. Furthermore, Armaldo requires a lot of support that, in VGC and Doubles, is much more readily available for him.
In short, trying to compare Doubles/VGC to Singles is like trying to compare Waterfall to Scald.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on March 30, 2014, 05:27:36 am
Multi Battle with Rice and a couple others. GWGG-WWWW-WWW6-G3D2
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on March 30, 2014, 02:03:16 pm
Probably why you didn't invite me :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 31, 2014, 07:46:46 pm
Congratulations, you just won! (http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-104611901)
^ I chuckled
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nexelous on March 31, 2014, 07:50:43 pm
I'd pretty much go to tournaments, however I haven't gotten a good challenge recently and a fair match since i seem to lose alot...
I'd pretty much battle with you guys with my brand new Giratina I traded my Fennekin for, but on-topic, If I were to enter a tournament, I'd go for my dreams with my Greninja.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on March 31, 2014, 10:52:21 pm
I'd pretty much go to tournaments, however I haven't gotten a good challenge recently and a fair match since i seem to lose alot...
I'd pretty much battle with you guys with my brand new Giratina I traded my Fennekin for, but on-topic, If I were to enter a tournament, I'd go for my dreams with my Greninja.
Me, Xan (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/sinneslochen-80090), and a few others typically like to organize battles with each other over on Skype, just to mess around with potential new teams and/or breed stuff for each other if you're ever interested.
We also do some theorymonning from time to time.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nexelous on April 01, 2014, 01:08:01 am
Me, Xan (http://mugenguild.com/forum/profile/sinneslochen-80090), and a few others typically like to organize battles with each other over on Skype, just to mess around with potential new teams and/or breed stuff for each other if you're ever interested.
We also do some theorymonning from time to time.
Is that so? Well count me in. I'd love to chat around and battle with you guys.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 01, 2014, 01:19:07 am
Pretty much everyone is using legendary pokemon in Battles, I got other strong ones too! last time I fought with my pretty weak team that I started with days ago, I got wrecked with a Palkia... Giratina... and a Shiny Dialga...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 01, 2014, 01:37:33 am
I guess uber battles would be a nice change of pace...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 01, 2014, 01:39:05 am
More like battles in which people use one or two Ubers. I guess I'd be down to bust out the big guns if you decide to join us.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nexelous on April 01, 2014, 01:41:15 am
I'd be glad to do some good ol Pokemon brawling. Let me know what to do And I'll get right to it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Hyogo on April 01, 2014, 03:01:24 am
So I've had around 5 People rage quit battles because of my Defense Deoxys and Shuckle combo.
Protect w/ Shuckle -> Trick room w/ Deoxys (Hit once or twice) -> Double team w/ Shuckle -> Psyshock/Recover with Deoxys -> Repeat Double team till max and Toxic happens
Yeah this one guy said 'fuck you hyogo' when he came back on, I'll say fuck you to his Victini >:c
Shouldn't of Fuckled with my Shuckle tbh.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 01, 2014, 03:04:54 am
Shuckle may be a setup bait (especially for Steel types that now a boosting move) but damn it is really annoying, especially in a sandstorm. Shuckle is pretty damn useful still.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 01, 2014, 03:29:08 am
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/1v1-104340886
the Shuckening Posted: April 01, 2014, 04:32:44 pm March 2014 OU stats posted: (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/official-smogon-university-simulator-statistics-%E2%80%94-march-2014.3501320/)
To make matters worse, his Roserade then starts spamming Leech Seed and Stun Spore against Gourgeist while he still had 3 other Pokemon in reserve until it finally died from burn...
Oh the silly things one can find on showdown...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on April 02, 2014, 11:38:37 pm
If there's a battling league happening on here or whatever, I'd like in. I need a good excuse to get back into my Y save and I just invested some time into my shiny Zard. I can't say I'm the very best, like no one ever was, but I can say I'm a decent battler
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 02, 2014, 11:41:29 pm
There's not really a battling league. Just a Skype chat of battlers that occasionally practice on one another. That's really all there is to it. Funny thing just happened. I was challenged out of nowhere by this guy named Aldo. I know it probably wasn't Aldo from here because this one was using a Mega Kangaskhan. He rage-quit when I got him down to just his Therian Tornadus and I wasn't even using an actual team. Just a bunch of leftovers from my Battle Box.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: vgma2 on April 03, 2014, 02:28:18 am
How 'bout this? (http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/02/pokemon-world-championships-schedule-revealed/) Anyone here going to participate? I can't because I don't own X or Y yet. :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 03, 2014, 02:34:49 am
Funny thing just happened. I was challenged out of nowhere by this guy named Aldo. I know it probably wasn't Aldo from here because this one was using a Mega Kangaskhan. He rage-quit when I got him down to just his Therian Tornadus and I wasn't even using an actual team. Just a bunch of leftovers from my Battle Box.
That wasn´t me, I don´t even own a 3DS :P get I have some fans!!
BTW, the notification didn´t work.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 03, 2014, 06:15:16 am
That's probably because it was in an edit rather than the initial post. It's really annoying.
But yeah, I figured it wasn't you since I remember you quite clearly being happy when it was banned to Ubers. That and I remember you saying you didn't have a 3DS as well. Didn't stop me from being confused for a little bit. We should battle when you get yours.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: PBRTODD101 on April 03, 2014, 07:40:06 am
Well, running a test team on Showdown I managed to get some beastly Gogoat action in OU. Pretty useful Pokemon I'd say. http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-105633940
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on April 03, 2014, 09:32:44 am
How 'bout this? (http://www.siliconera.com/2014/04/02/pokemon-world-championships-schedule-revealed/) Anyone here going to participate? I can't because I don't own X or Y yet. :(
Wow that's literally ten miles away from where I'll be the day before. Warped Tour is on the third of July and it's like half an hour outside of Indianapolis. I'll have to see about being there. But I can almost guarantee I'm not anywhere near that good xD
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 03, 2014, 04:17:50 pm
Well, running a test team on Showdown I managed to get some beastly Gogoat action in OU. Pretty useful Pokemon I'd say. http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-105633940
Dark Pulse Tyranitar?
Using Stealth Rock when there's a Xatu sitting right in front of him?
Seems silly if you ask me... The Donphan didnt exactly help either... Posted: April 03, 2014, 04:41:10 pm EDIT: Smogon's real March Useage statistics are up: (http://sim.smogon.com:8080/Stats/2014-03/ou-1760.0.txt)
Goodra, Volcarona, and Lucario all fell to UU. Hippowdon, Manectric, and Gardevoir are now OU.
EDIT: I'm aware that Smogon uses 3 month statistics to determine tiers, but since January didn't have 1760 stats to use, these tier changes so far are unofficial afaik.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 04, 2014, 01:15:16 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 04, 2014, 07:06:12 am
After talking to Xan on skype, we thought it would be a good idea to bring some theorymon discussion into the mix.
To start off, the idea of an alternate Mega evolution for Gyarados (aptly referred to as Mega Gyarados Z) with Water Dragon typing came about. Following the tradition Gamefreak has done by making alternate Mega Evos physical/special (as seen with Mega Charizard X and Y as well as Mega Mewtwo X and Y), we came up with the following stat spread:
Mega Gyarados Z Water/Dragon Adaptability 95/125/79/60/100/81 -> 95/105/109/140/100/91
Gyarados has quite an expansive special movepool, but only has a measly 60 base SpAtk to utilize it (70 in its official Mega Form). By giving it Adaptability in conjunction with a bolstered 140 SpAtk, it becomes a stupidly good wallbreaker, 2HKOing most defensive and bulky OU Pokemon with the exception of Chansey. Just to give an idea of this thing;s power:
Spoiler: Long Calcs(click to see content)
252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 196-232 (60.4 - 71.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mega Charizard X: 496-584 (137.7 - 162.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Deoxys-D: 144-170 (47.3 - 55.9%) -- 79.3% chance to 2HKO 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 178-210 (25.2 - 29.8%) -- guaranteed 4HKO 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 248-296 (61.3 - 73.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 180-216 (44.5 - 53.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Goodra: 156-188 (40.6 - 48.9%) -- 76.2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Mega Gyarados Z Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 272-322 (67.3 - 79.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Ferrothorn: 123-145 (34.9 - 41.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Dragon Pulse vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 214-254 (66 - 78.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Mawile: 290-342 (95.3 - 112.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 384-456 (99.4 - 118.1%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Rotom-W: 148-176 (48.6 - 57.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Rotom-W: 131-155 (43 - 50.9%) -- 53.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252+ SpA Adaptability Mega Gyarados Z Dragon Pulse vs. 252 HP / 188 SpD Mega Venusaur: 158-186 (43.4 - 51%) -- 96.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
Being able to 3HKO Ferrothorn on the switch in with a stab water move is no small feat, and Fire Blast utterly destroys it.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 04, 2014, 07:09:19 am
^ what.
I´m having a lot of fun with this pokemon battle simulator. I can test stuff!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 04, 2014, 07:10:09 am
Theorymonning = making up Pokemon that don't exist and seeing how well they'd do on paper against relevant threats. It's pretty fun.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Lith on April 04, 2014, 07:18:38 am
._.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 04, 2014, 07:19:04 am
Oh it´s spoiled now. That´s better.
Pretty interesting to say the least but sorry to say, that looks really broken on paper.
Title: The war of attrition spreads
Post by: Xan on April 04, 2014, 07:33:23 am
Speaking of theorymonning, Arpa and I also daydreamed up a Poison/Steel legendary designed with Ubers in mind. The ideas of disease slowly eating away at its foes and other delightful concepts came to mind, so we figured a very bulky tank would work quite nicely. Thus, Titarnius was born and it is a complete beast.
We came up with a rather vague moveset consisting of moves like Stealth Rock, Earthquake, and other moves that befit its role as a tank. A signature move came to mind, also giving it a rather deadly role as a trapper that can help guarantee safe switches and just wear the opponent down without a problem.
Attrition 15 BP Physical Poison 10 PP Traps for 4-5 turns, deals 1/8 health each turn, initial hit has 30% chance of badly poisoning target.
Let's be practical and give some numbers to just how horrifying this thing would be to face in a battle, shall we?
Spoiler: Offense calcs(click to see content)
0- SpA Titarnius Venoshock (130 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 276-326 (68.3 - 80.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 0 SpA Titarnius Venoshock (130 BP) vs. +2 4 HP / 0 SpD Xerneas: 132-156 (33.5 - 39.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO 0 Atk Titarnius Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Gengar: 188-222 (58 - 68.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 0 Atk Titarnius Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Genesect: 90-107 (31.8 - 37.8%) -- 93.8% chance to 3HKO 0 Atk Titarnius Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Ho-Oh: 340-404 (81.7 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 0 Atk Titarnius Poison Jab vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Ho-Oh: 102-121 (24.5 - 29%) -- 99.8% chance to 4HKO 0 Atk Titarnius Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 210-248 (69.5 - 82.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Spoiler: Defense calcs(click to see content)
252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 154-183 (29.9 - 35.6%) -- 29.4% chance to 3HKO 252 SpA Mega Mewtwo Y Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 206-244 (40 - 47.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252 SpA Life Orb Mewtwo Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 224-265 (43.5 - 51.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery 4 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 208-248 (40.4 - 48.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery 4 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Titarnius: 184-220 (35.7 - 42.8%) -- 92.6% chance to 3HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252 SpA Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius in Rain: 259-306 (50.3 - 59.5%) -- 78.5% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252+ Atk Life Orb Ho-Oh Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 160 Def (Custom): 406-478 (78.9 - 92.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252+ SpA Choice Specs Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius in Rain: 424-501 (82.4 - 97.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252 Atk Mega Mewtwo X Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 376-444 (73.1 - 86.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252 SpA Mega Gengar Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 102-120 (19.8 - 23.3%) -- possible 6HKO after Black Sludge recovery +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 759-894 (147.6 - 173.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Genesect Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 118-140 (22.9 - 27.2%) -- possible 5HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252+ Atk Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 264-312 (51.3 - 60.7%) -- 90.6% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252+ Atk Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 160 Def (Custom): 324-384 (63 - 74.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
tl;dr it walls four out of six of Ubers' S-rank threats, traps them with Attrition, and then just pesters them to death.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 04, 2014, 04:05:46 pm
You forgot the calc against Xerneas with Attrition's residual damage in effect:
0 SpA Titarnius Venoshock (130 BP) vs. +2 4 HP / 0 SpD Xerneas: 132-156 (33.5 - 39.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after trapping damage and poison damage
Granted since you need to use Attrition first, its a 3HKO. With the calc you posted, the use of Attrition turns that into a 4HKO. Besides, its not like Xerneas can do anything back to you.
Should also be noted that this thing really appreciates having Toxic Spikes support to make its job hella easier. You could even bait in a Defogger and switch to this thing just to trap them. Posted: April 04, 2014, 05:39:49 pm On the topic of Titarnius, since the S-rank threats in ubers was covered, perhaps going over the A-rank ubers wouldn't be out of the question:
Spoiler: A+ Rank(click to see content)
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/493.png)(Arceus-Normal): +2 252+ Atk Life Orb Arceus Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 759-894 (147.6 - 173.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Titarnius loses
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/257.png)(Blaziken/Mega Blaziken): 252+ Atk Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 264-312 (51.3 - 60.7%) -- 90.6% chance to 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery 252+ Atk Mega Blaziken Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 324-384 (63 - 74.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
0 Atk Titarnius Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Blaziken: 210-248 (69.5 - 82.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Recoil from Flare Blitz puts Blaziken near OHKO range. 50/50 for Titarnius
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/645-s.png)(Therian Landorus): 16+ Atk Landorus-T Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 432-508 (84 - 98.8%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Titarnius loses
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/484.png)(Palkia): 252 SpA Palkia Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 127-150 (24.7 - 29.1%) -- 4.6% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 0 SpA Titarnius Venoshock (130 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Palkia: 109-130 (33.8 - 40.3%) -- 98% chance to 2HKO after Trap Damage, Leftovers recovery, and poison damage 252 SpA Palkia Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 170-200 (33 - 38.9%) -- 72.5% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 252 SpA Choice Specs Palkia Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 252-298 (49 - 57.9%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery
Palkia can stall it out of PP if it has Rest or beat it with Choice Specs, otherwise 50/50 for Titarnius.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/717.png)(Yveltal): 252+ SpA Life Orb Dark Aura Yveltal Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 160-188 (31.1 - 36.5%) -- 7% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 4 Atk Life Orb Dark Aura Yveltal Sucker Punch vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 122-146 (23.7 - 28.4%) -- 0.1% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery
0 SpA Titarnius Venoshock (130 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Yveltal: 130-154 (33 - 39.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Trap Damage and poison damage 0- Atk Titarnius Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0- Def Yveltal: 164-194 (41.7 - 49.3%) -- 85.9% chance to 2HKO after poison damage
Titarnius wins, even if Yveltal tries to stall with Roost.
Spoiler: A Rank(click to see content)
(http://sprites.pokecheck.org/icon/493-ghost.png)(Ghost Arceus): +1 0 SpA Spooky Plate Arceus-Ghost Judgment vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 144-169 (28 - 32.8%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 0- Atk Titarnius Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Arceus-Ghost: 78-94 (17.5 - 21.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after poison damage
+2 252 Atk Spooky Plate Arceus-Ghost Shadow Claw vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 168-198 (32.6 - 38.5%) -- 54% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery +2 252 Atk Spooky Plate Arceus-Ghost Shadow Force vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 288-339 (56 - 65.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery
Titarnius can wall it with Venom Drench while wearing it away with residual damage and Rest. Otherwise, both Calm Mind and Swords Dance sets beat Titarnius.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/491.png) (Darkrai): 252 SpA Darkrai Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 85-102 (16.5 - 19.8%) -- possible 7HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery +2 252 SpA Life Orb Darkrai Dark Pulse vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 220-261 (42.8 - 50.7%) -- 2.3% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 0 SpA Titarnius Venoshock (130 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Darkrai: 139-165 (49.4 - 58.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery and poison damage 0 SpA Titarnius Venoshock (65 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Darkrai: 70-84 (24.9 - 29.8%) -- 100% chance to 4HKO
Dark Void + Bad Dreams stops Titarnius cold while Substitute sets can block the passive damage entirely while setting up Nasty Plot. Titarnius loses.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/386a.png)(Attack Deoxys) 252+ SpA Life Orb Deoxys-A Psycho Boost vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 265-312 (51.5 - 60.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery
0 SpA Titarnius Venoshock (65 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0- SpD Deoxys-A: 222-262 (92.1 - 108.7%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
Titarnius OHKOs back after Life Orb recoil.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/386s.png)(Speed Deoxys) 252 Atk Deoxys-S Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 56-66 (10.8 - 12.8%)
Completely walled by Titarnius. The only thing it can do is remove its black sludge and set up hazards/screens but otherwise walled.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/483.png) (Dialga): 4+ SpA Dialga Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 158-186 (30.7 - 36.1%) -- 2.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 252+ SpA Life Orb Dialga Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 96+ SpD Titarnius: 242-286 (47 - 55.6%) -- 74.6% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery
0- Atk Titarnius Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Dialga: 122-144 (30.1 - 35.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after poison damage
Specs and Life orb variants beat it. Defensive Dialga with Stealth Rock and Toxic loses to Earthquake.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/383.png)(Groudon): 4+ Atk Groudon Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 436-516 (84.8 - 100.3%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Titarnius loses.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/250.png)(Ho-oh) 252+ Atk Life Orb Ho-Oh Sacred Fire vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 304-359 (59.1 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 252+ Atk Life Orb Ho-Oh Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 406-478 (78.9 - 92.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Black Sludge recovery
0 Atk Titarnius Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Ho-Oh: 340-404 (81.7 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Titarnius loses.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/707.png)(Klefki): 0 Atk Klefki Foul Play vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 44-52 (8.5 - 10.1%) 0- Atk Titarnius Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Klefki: 152-180 (47.7 - 56.6%) -- 32.8% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
Unless Klefki is running fucking Swagplay (lol), Titarnius wins.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/212.png) (Scizor/Mega Scizor): 252+ Atk Mega Scizor Superpower vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 103-122 (20 - 23.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 0- Atk Titarnius Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Mega Scizor: 53-63 (15.4 - 18.3%) -- possible 6HKO
Walls Scizor, but Scizor also walls it. 50/50.
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/644.png)(Zekrom): 252+ Atk Teravolt Zekrom Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 168-198 (32.6 - 38.5%) -- 54% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 252+ Atk Life Orb Teravolt Zekrom Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 218-257 (42.4 - 50%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery 252+ Atk Choice Band Teravolt Zekrom Bolt Strike vs. 252 HP / 160 Def Titarnius: 252-297 (49 - 57.7%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery
0 SpA Titarnius Venoshock (130 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0- SpD Zekrom: 144-169 (42.1 - 49.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Trap damage and poison damage 0- Atk Titarnius Earthquake vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Zekrom: 122-144 (35.6 - 42.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Beats Scarf Zekrom unless it Volt Switches out. Life Orb variants can Volt Switch out of the trap. Loses to Choice Band variants.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 05, 2014, 01:18:00 am
Pretty interesting Poison/Steel as well. I always wanted to see that combination in action (if this was real it would laugh at any sort of fairy, ANY).
Now someone think of a viable stat distribution for a Fire/Grass poke with Magic Guard.
Or a Bug/Dark.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on April 05, 2014, 03:29:09 am
Makes me think of my initial ideas of a Pinsir (Mega) evolution. Bug/Dark physical attacker. Sadly Bug/Dark isn't too great defensively, but offensively it wrecks most shops.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 05, 2014, 08:16:52 am
^ Yeah
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-106335537
The salt at the end.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 05, 2014, 08:25:11 am
Banded Crobat came as a bit of a surprise. Nice play, though I feel like you really could have used Rapid Spin a lot more than you did. That guy's switches were hella predictable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 05, 2014, 08:45:13 am
Choice Banded Brave bird isn´t joke. Always wanted to try a choice banded Crobat, it hits surprisingly hard. I know, I was trying just to be careful.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 05, 2014, 08:58:14 am
That's when taking a risk here or there can help. Trust me, it's sometimes worth that extra little prediction or switch even if just to see what unfolds from it. Who dares wins.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 05, 2014, 09:21:18 am
^ if you say so. I can see when a change is realy predictable (not as difficult as it may sounds, is having an educated guess) but sometimes some plays are damn risky. I did one in that battle (the roost with the banded crobat)
I like that page. It let me try all my ideas without having to spent a lot of money on a machine and avoiding training. Now thinking on a gravity team (this one is gonna be tough).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 07, 2014, 07:40:35 pm
Swagger is banned. Fuck Klefki. (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/xy-ou-suspect-process-round-2-voting.3503601/page-4#post-5359700)
Title: Re: Theorymon #3: Mega Gallade
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 10, 2014, 06:52:43 am
Okay, so time to bring more theorymonning into discussion. Gardevoir got a Mega Evolution, but Gallade gets shafted? Doesn't this seem weird to anyone else?
Mega Gallade Psychic/Fighting Tough Claws 68/125/65/65/115/80 -> 68/175/85/65/115/110
With its "new" Mega Evolution, it patches up Gallade's speed, which has plagued it in the past. It can now outspeed certain key threats including, but not limited to, Terrakion, Keldeo, both Mega Charizards, Garchomp, both Landorus formes, and Manaphy, while forming a speed tie with Latios, Latias and Gengar. Its frail 65 base physical defense has been slightly patched, while his attack stat reaches 175, the 4th highest in the game. With Tough Claws, most of Gallade's physical movepool becomes even more dangerous with a 30% damage buff, including Close Combat, Shadow Sneak, Knock Off, Ice Punch, and Zen Headbutt, all in combination with Swords Dance turns Gallade into a promising sweeper capable of manhandling many S-rank and A-rank threats in OU:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Unboosted: 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Gengar: 220-260 (83.9 - 99.2%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Ferrothorn: 390-462 (110.7 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 866-1022 (123 - 145.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Mawile: 270-318 (88.8 - 104.6%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 68+ Def Mega Venusaur: 312-368 (85.7 - 101%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Unaware Clefable: 190-225 (48.2 - 57.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Zen Headbutt vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 267-315 (89.5 - 105.7%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
Boosted: +1 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Landorus-T: 692-816 (181.1 - 213.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Ice Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 568-670 (175.3 - 206.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 393-462 (97.2 - 114.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Mega Scizor: 372-438 (108.1 - 127.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-W: 448-528 (147.3 - 173.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Deoxys-D: 242-286 (79.6 - 94%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 498-586 (153.7 - 180.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-S: 316-374 (103.9 - 123%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Gallade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 194-229 (64.6 - 76.3%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 Atk Mega Gallade Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 384-452 (118.5 - 139.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 10, 2014, 12:41:48 pm
Ignoring all the stuff you said, Mega Gallade would be something I'd use. I've never found a useful item to give him past Rose Incense/Grass Gem, so I'd quite easily give him the Galladite.
Shut up 'bout yo "ideal Gallade item sets" :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 10, 2014, 04:04:43 pm
After someone compared this to Mega Lucario, allow me to provide defensive calcs:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
252+ SpA Aegislash-Blade Shadow Ball vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gallade: 284-336 (102.1 - 120.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO 0 Atk Aegislash-Blade Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gallade: 140-168 (50.3 - 60.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gallade: 326-386 (117.2 - 138.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO (M.Gallade cannot outspeed) 252+ Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gallade: 208-246 (74.8 - 88.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO +6 252+ Atk Huge Power Azumarill Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gallade: 364-429 (130.9 - 154.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Thundurus Hidden Power Flying vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gallade: 168-200 (60.4 - 71.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Thundurus Fly vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gallade: 308-366 (110.7 - 131.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Aerilate Mega Pinsir Quick Attack vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Gallade: 222-264 (80.1 - 95.3%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Not having Dark resist and Flying neutrality really hampers it from becoming the next Mega Lucario imo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on April 13, 2014, 10:30:35 pm
People have found a way to dump the RAM of these games so we should be able to find out stuff (does tipping do anything, the point of the Lumiose City ghost girl etc) So far, all that's been found is Hoopa and Volcanion's stats and abilities
Hoopa: 80/110/60/150/130/70 Ability: Magician
Volcanion: 80/110/120/130/90/70 Ability: Water Absorb
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 13, 2014, 11:09:20 pm
Volcanion: 80/110/120/130/90/70 Ability: Water Absorb
Holy shit!!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Errdor on April 13, 2014, 11:46:32 pm
Hey guys suggestions, is this a good suggestion for Ludicolo? It's been a while since I last played Pokemon in 4 years.
Nature: Quirky Ability: Swift Swim Moveset: Surf (Will be replaced by Rain Dance)/Hydro Pump/Giga Drain/Ice Beam
Will be thinking of posting more later.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 13, 2014, 11:52:37 pm
Replace the quirky nature with modest for more special attack
Put a life orb for more damage
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on April 14, 2014, 02:15:18 am
Also found in the RAM dump, new moves!
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
607) Hold Hands Normal Special Power: -- Accuracy -- PP: 40 The user and an ally hold hands. This makes them very happy.
614) Thousand Arrows Ground Physical Power: 90 Accuracy: 100 PP: 10 This move also hits opposing Pokemon that are in the air. Those Pokemon are knocked down to the ground.
615) Thousand Waves Ground Physical Power: 90 Accuracy: 100 PP: 10 The user attacks with a wave that crawls along the ground. Those hit can't flee from battle.
ZX/YX Confirmed?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 14, 2014, 04:06:52 am
More like new Zygarde formes confirmed...
Also Fairy Gem confirmed as well
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 14, 2014, 04:10:06 am
607) Hold Hands Normal Special Power: -- Accuracy -- PP: 40 The user and an ally hold hands. This makes them very happy.
Best move 10/10.
No weak
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 14, 2014, 05:53:12 am
Porting this over from MFFA for discussion:
Quote
here's a little something I'm surprised not even the mascot of the series got:
Mega Raichu Electric/Electric Electrilate* 60/90/55/90/80/110 -> 60/130/65/130/90/110
*Electrilate: Boosts the power of Normal-type moves by 30% and changes them into Electric-type.
While Raichu's defense doesn't improve by much, it gets a much needed boost to its offensive potential, while still maintaining its 110 base speed. With 130/130 offenses, Raichu can function as either physical, special, or even mixed attacker.
Physical Attacker Mega Raichu @ Raichite Static -> Electrilate
Extremespeed
Knock Off
Substitute / Return
Focus Punch / Encore
4 hp / 252 atk / 252 speed Jolly / Adamant
With Electrilate, M.Raichu's Extremespeed and Return become 104 and 132 base power physical electric-type attacks, respectively. Extremespeed allows it to hit hard while outspeeding all common priority users such as Talonflame, Azumarill, and Bisharp, hitting the former 2 for super effective damage, as well as breaking the speed tie against Keldeo, becoming an excellent tool for scoring revenge kills. Return can also be used to hit slower threats for more damage. M.Raichu can utilize SubPunch, which provides it with near unresisted coverage in conjunction with Knock Off, which is an excellent move in general to punishing switch ins by removing their item.
Damage Calcs:
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252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Thundurus: 229-270 (76.3 - 90%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Azumarill: 410-486 (101.4 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Charizard Y: 420-494 (140.9 - 165.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Mega Pinsir: 290-344 (106.6 - 126.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-S: 186-220 (61.1 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Extreme Speed vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Deoxys-S: 186-220 (76.8 - 90.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Electrilate Mega Raichu Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Chansey: 286-337 (40.6 - 47.8%) -- 64.5% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Mega Raichu Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Aegislash-Shield: 150-178 (46.2 - 54.9%) -- 98.8% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Mega Raichu Focus Punch vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mega Tyranitar: 460-544 (113.8 - 134.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Special Sweeper Mega Raichu @ Raichite LightningRod -> Electrilate
Nasty Plot
Thunderbolt / Thunder
Hidden Power (Ice)
Focus Blast
4 hp / 252 sp.atk / 252 speed Timid
With 130 base Sp.Atk, M.Raichu can come in on anything that it can force out and begin hitting extremely hard. Thunderbolt is its primary stab, although Thunder can be used if used on rain teams. Hidden Power Ice takes out the likes of Dragon types such as Garchomp and Dragonite, as well as Gliscor and both Landorus formes. Focus Blast takes care of threats such as Tyranitar, OHKOing even Assault Vest variants in the sand after a Nasty Plot boost, as well as Heatran, Ferrothorn, and non-Scarfed Excadrill.
Damage Calcs:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
+2 252 SpA Mega Raichu Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 207-244 (63.8 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery +2 252 SpA Mega Raichu Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 368-436 (91 - 107.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 SpA Mega Raichu Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 362-426 (93.7 - 110.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 SpA Mega Raichu Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Kyurem-B: 572-674 (125.9 - 148.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252 SpA Raichu Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 262-310 (80.8 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 14, 2014, 11:36:34 am
Volcanion: 80/110/120/130/90/70 Ability: Water Absorb
Aw yiss! Water Absorb! I want one! But then again, so does everyone else :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on April 14, 2014, 02:12:31 pm
I honestly don't understand why Gamefreak keeps putting data/moves for future games in the current games. It's not a secret that people hack the games.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 14, 2014, 05:24:56 pm
I honestly don't understand why Gamefreak keeps putting data/moves for future games in the current games. It's not a secret that people hack the games.
So that the Pokémon can be traded back to previous titles...?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on April 17, 2014, 02:57:17 am
With DLC now possible they could just put them into a patch when it becomes available. Granted this puts more onto the local console to play a game, but at the same time, SD cards aren't expensive
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 17, 2014, 02:59:29 am
Tri-React: Base Power of attacking moves is reduced to 40%, but hits three times
Something me, Xan, and Arpa came up with in Skype last night. Looking at its ability, it's basically the infamous Mega Kangaskhan's Parental Bond, but with an overall damage increase of 20% as opposed to 50%, with the ability to hit 3 times. Backed by a base 165 Sp.Atk stat, Mega Hydreigon remains as a proficient wallbreaker. The main draw, however, is that like Mega Kangaskhan's deadly combination of Parental Bond and Power-up Punch, Mega Hydreigon can make use of Tri-React and Charge Beam to gain as much as +3 towards its already high Sp.Atk, further bolstering its wallbreaking capabilities. Unlike Power-up Punch, however, Charge Beam does not have perfect accuracy, and the Sp.Atk boost only has a 70% chance of occuring rather than PuP's 100% boost rate. Factoring in accuracy, however, Mega Hydreigon's Charge Beam has a 87.57% chance of gaining at least 1 Sp.Atk boost, a 70.56% chance of gaining at least +2 Sp.Atk per use, and a 30.87% chance of gaining all three Sp.Atk boosts. A +2 Sp.Atk Mega Hydreigon is nothing to scoff at, easily taking care of many of OU's walls and defensive Pokemon, and +1 can pull its weight around as well:
Spoiler: Offensive Calcs(click to see content)
+1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Dark Pulse (32 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Shield: 402-474 (124.1 - 146.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Dark Pulse (32 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Hippowdon: 252-297 (60.0 - 70.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO +2 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Dark Pulse (32 BP) vs. 252 HP / 188 SpD Mega Venusaur: 279-327 (76.6 - 89.8%) -- chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Dragon Pulse (34 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Unaware Quagsire: 282-336 (71.6 - 85.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 336-408 (83.2 - 101.0%) -- approx 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock +1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Heatran: 390-462 (101.0 - 119.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Filter Mega Aggron: 354-417 (102.9 - 121.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO +1 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Mega Mawile: 294-348 (96.7 - 114.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock +2 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Focus Blast (48 BP) vs. 6 HP / 252 SpD Eviolite Chansey: 384-456 (59.8 - 71.0%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Flash Cannon (32 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Unaware Clefable: 198-234 (50.3 - 59.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers Recovery +2 252 SpA Tri-React Mega Hydreigon Charge Beam (20 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Azumarill: 378-450 (93.6 - 111.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
Unlike Mega Kangaskhan, Mega Hydreigon does not have access to any priority move, making it susceptible to being revenge killed by faster offensive threats, including Dragons, Fairies, and Fighting-types, and priority moves such as Ice Shard, Mach Punch, and Gale Wings Brave Bird, though it can comfortably take Sucker Punch. Though it may be able to 2HKO Unaware Clefable and OHKO Mega Mawile and Azumarill, Mega Hydreigon wants to avoid fairy-type attacks at all costs.
Spoiler: Defensive Calcs(click to see content)
252+ Atk Choice Band Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 235-277 (72.3 - 85.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252+ Atk Conkeldurr Mach Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 152-182 (46.7 - 56%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Mamoswine Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 146-174 (44.9 - 53.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Choice Band Dragonite Extreme Speed vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 147-173 (45.2 - 53.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Keldeo Secret Sword vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 278-330 (85.5 - 101.5%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Tough Claws Mega Charizard X Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 348-410 (107 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 Atk Terrakion Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 390-462 (120 - 142.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO 20 Atk Life Orb Deoxys-S Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 221-260 (68 - 80%) -- guaranteed 2HKO 252 Atk Garchomp Dragon Claw vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 264-312 (81.2 - 96%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock 252 SpA Life Orb Latios Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Mega Hydreigon: 507-601 (156 - 184.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252 SpA Life Orb Protean Greninja Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 299-354 (92 - 108.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Black Glasses Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 84-99 (25.8 - 30.4%) -- 7.6% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Huge Power Mega Mawile Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mega Hydreigon: 82-97 (25.2 - 29.8%) -- 2.1% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 17, 2014, 09:54:16 pm
Pretty interesting idea of an ability actually, I really hope the chances of flinching and burning and other stuff doesn´t get three chances for get the effects thought cause it would be the same broken case, even if it doesn´t have any priority move.
You could have Speed and HP to 100 each just because. And... another wallbreaker, sorry guys but with those ideas you are just killing the term at this point :P
Calculations, if Tri-React reduces attack power by 30% instead, would be nice. 40% is such a weird number for that IMO.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 18, 2014, 01:50:13 am
I really hope the chances of flinching and burning and other stuff doesn´t get three chances for get the effects thought cause it would be the same broken case, even if it doesn´t have any priority move.
You could have Speed and HP to 100 each just because. And... another wallbreaker, sorry guys but with those ideas you are just killing the term at this point :P
HP is always unchanged by Mega Evos and I already suggested more speed.
That's pretty much Parental Bond in terms of damage, then. We were trying to edge away from MegaKhan's brand of broken with its ability.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 18, 2014, 05:15:10 pm
I forget if it was you or Arpa, but one of you suggested Sheer Force as an alternative, but we pretty much agreed that the inability to hold a Life Orb to fully take advantage of it seemed kind of counter-productive.
^ Oh I misread the ability since I thought it would reduce the base power by a 30%. 50% if that´s the case then.
The damage reduction is actually 60% ((100-60)+(100-60)+(100-60) = 40*3 = 120%), so its the equivalent of an expert belt that works regardless of whether or not the move hits super effectively, with the added bonus of being able to break subs and turns Charge Beam into a viable weapon.
The only thing that sucks about the ability is that Hydreigon doesn't get Snarl (seriously, -3 SpAtk on the opponent each use, and both opponents in Doubles?)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on April 18, 2014, 11:39:49 pm
ill be online for battle from 8pm to 4am tonite....MY BODY IS READY!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 19, 2014, 05:41:06 am
You still never registered my 3DS code :p
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 19, 2014, 06:05:25 am
I forget if it was you or Arpa, but one of you suggested Sheer Force as an alternative, but we pretty much agreed that the inability to hold a Life Orb to fully take advantage of it seemed kind of counter-productive.
It was Arpa because he's silly.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on April 19, 2014, 06:14:22 am
You're sillier
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on April 19, 2014, 06:20:21 am
You're an Alpaca.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on April 19, 2014, 07:01:36 am
you're an ugly human
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on April 19, 2014, 11:30:53 am
I'm a Ultima :D
Um Here's the unreleased moves and legendaries in action. Also shiny forms cause why not.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on April 19, 2014, 12:57:30 pm
Volcanion's cry seems underwhelming. Very short. Hoopa's seems like a cross between a robotic cricket and Volcarona's.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on April 19, 2014, 09:38:05 pm
Yo, Shiny Volcanion got da Thanos color scheme :D
Thousand waves and Thousand Arrows look sick. Steam Eruption is really underwhelming.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on April 21, 2014, 02:54:51 am
Thousand Arrows looks like a nerfed, recolored Judgement. Steam Eruption looks like double Scald. Thousand Waves however, that looks cool
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on April 21, 2014, 03:58:28 am
So looks like even Junichi Masuda admits that Mega Kangaskhan is fucking broken (http://pokemon-matome.net/articles/36658.html)
.. or in the very least, he has a lengthy discussion about it in the April issue of Famitsu, if I'm reading the translation right... Posted: April 28, 2014, 07:10:11 pm Inverse Battles Ahoy! (http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/battle/4/regulation/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on May 05, 2014, 06:11:24 pm
April useage statistics for OU are up (http://sim.smogon.com:8080/Stats/2014-04/ou-1760.0.txt)
Confirmed Rank Changes (based on past 3 months): (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/310-m.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/282-m.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/448.png) OU -> UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/635.png) BL -> UU (was recently unbanned from UU after suspect tests)
Potential Rank Changes (subject to May useage stats): (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/195.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/545.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/308-m.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/134.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/065.png)/(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/065-m.png) OU -> UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/637.png) OU -> UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/706.png) OU -> UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/490.png) OU -> BL (was previously banned from UU back in December)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on May 06, 2014, 02:58:36 am
No, mega manectric :bigcry: Goodra is something I´ll gladly receive with open arms in UU thought (that thing wearing an AV is damn bulky).
Mega Medicham could be pretty viable in OU, I mean that thing has been jumping tiers for quite a while.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on May 06, 2014, 03:50:30 am
^ It´s magical. Thank you for the laziness inducer. Good work trying to be clever but that´s another case.
Inverse battles are quite difficult to understand at first but let´s say the most weaknesses you have, the better you are in this metagame (AKA abomasnow)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on May 06, 2014, 05:56:06 am
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Following on from its reveal last Saturday, some further details have come regarding the International Challenge, specifically in regards to the entry gift. While in Japan, all entrants will receive 1,000 PokéMiles, it has been confirmed that entrants in North America, Europe and Australasia will receive an Enigma Berry. This berry is currently unavailable outside of Japan, where it is given with an event Darkrai. As a reminder, this competition runs standard VGC rules: A Double Battle competition, with only Pokémon in the Kalos Pokédex eligible, and only if they were hatched/caught in Kalos. It also restricts use of Mewtwo, Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde. Registration runs from May 9th to May 16th while the competition itself runs from May 16th to May 19th.
Haven't been keeping up with VGCs lately, but I still have a spare team used in Season 2 stolen by a JPN 1750 guy.
Quick heads up. WiFi servers for Nintendo Wii/DS is gonna end soon (May 20).
Also, welcome back Quagsire.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on May 06, 2014, 06:03:26 am
Guess I´ll have to keep grass knot on greninja, afterall.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on May 06, 2014, 06:14:20 am
Wait, so the Inverse Battles Tourney have Enigma Berry as prize?
Hmm... not a bad prize for a few hours of pain. Might as well enter.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on May 06, 2014, 01:05:42 pm
So hey, looks like those trademarks have cropped up again (http://nintendoeverything.com/pokken-fighters-and-pokken-tournament-trademarked-in-europe-as-well).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nexelous on May 06, 2014, 11:51:18 pm
Hmm... looks like there might be another Pokemon Game for the Wii U.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on May 07, 2014, 04:24:51 am
Wait, so the Inverse Battles Tourney have Enigma Berry as prize?
Hmm... not a bad prize for a few hours of pain. Might as well enter.
It's an International Tournament. Enter in a few battles and you'll receive the Enigma Berry.
Also, apparently Avalugg is S-Tier in Inverse.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on May 07, 2014, 05:12:37 am
Ice type is the defensive typing on inverse... damn, just one weakness. That´s S tier by itself.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on May 07, 2014, 06:43:40 am
And the fact that every Special Super Effective hits except Ice is now 2-3HKO, allowing it to pull a free Curse/Avalanche.
There's also Normal types especially Evolite users and Snorlax. They are really good here.
Hey, since I just started playing this again, maybe I'll check it out especially you can now EVERY Pokemon in the National Dex, except the obvious.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on May 07, 2014, 10:37:40 am
Are you saying Luggy's actually useful now?
Oh wait, everything will still carry a special move. Never mind :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on May 07, 2014, 01:21:02 pm
Mirror Coat + Sturdy =P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on May 07, 2014, 02:50:38 pm
Mirror Coat ain't so snazzy in a Trick Room :P
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on May 07, 2014, 03:02:19 pm
hey, whatd'ya know, its actually a decent rapid spinner now thanks to its newfound stealth rock resist. Let's see Excadrill try that in Inverse. :p
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on May 07, 2014, 06:00:06 pm
Game Freak are making Gen III remakes. Hoenn confirmed! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywGSON9tNq0)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on May 07, 2014, 06:18:46 pm
This was pretty much confirmed because Mega Blaziken. I'm excited.
Secret Base SpotPasses pls.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: R565 on May 07, 2014, 06:24:15 pm
Everyone got their ticket for the hype train? I do.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on May 07, 2014, 06:52:58 pm
I feel this thread should be renamed as the General Pokemon Thread instead of someone making a new thread for the remakes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nexelous on May 07, 2014, 08:34:29 pm
I'll agree on you with that. Anyway, It's gonna be a great game, I hope they can keep up with the Revamp Cries. Escavalier sounded more cooler than it's original cry from the Black and White Era.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on May 07, 2014, 09:31:25 pm
But on the flip side, Kyogre sounds like shit.
Maybe they'll use the original cry for the possible Mega Evolution?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nexelous on May 07, 2014, 10:04:35 pm
Dunno. But let me tell you this, Now that Rayquaza has a Mega Evolution, There is no tell how many Rayquazas are being hacked/generated into X and Y to transfer.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on May 15, 2014, 05:43:33 pm
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Finally is the Halloween Party competition, also in Autumn. This tournament is limited to Ghost-type Pokémon and is a Single Battle competition. You need to include a Gourgeist in your Battle Box
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on May 15, 2014, 09:34:57 pm
Cofagrigus sounds like it'd have fun too, just trick room, nasty plot, then shadow ball everything. No need for Hidden Power Fighting.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nexelous on May 15, 2014, 09:35:15 pm
Sounds pretty interesting. I have 2 Gourgeist... A Aegislash... a Gengar... a Banette... And a Trevenant, I wonder if they accept Rotoms.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on May 15, 2014, 10:04:32 pm
Gamefreak hates us and lets us know it by deliberately not allowing us to hear that track during normal gameplay. >:(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on May 15, 2014, 11:18:42 pm
They might include it in the obligatory 3rd version/sequel/what the fuck ever like they did with the PWT in B2/W2 Granted, you had to download the tournament but ehh.
Slightly important:
Serebii.net said:
A new event has been announced. Making its first appearance worldwide, the special PokéBall Pattern Vivillon is to be given at the Pokémon Center in Paris from June 4th to June 21st. This Vivillon is Level 12 and comes with the moves Stun Spore, Gust, Light Screen and Struggle Bug. It is unknown if this event will make it out of France
(http://www.serebii.net/pballvivillon.jpg)
Naturally, these will be everywhere once cloaners get their hands on it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on May 20, 2014, 06:36:14 am
Armageddon is about to arrive for Nintendo DS/Wii Wi-Fi servers.
Thank you for all the memories Pokemon DS online games (and Battle Revolution I guess, never got that damn Rayquaza card skin). And farewell Pokegts, until 6th Gen support arrives, someday.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on May 22, 2014, 11:17:49 pm
Music tracks like that are why Pokémon will never cease to be amazing. However, I /really/ wish I could get that in-game. Also, has anyone talked to the OP about renaming the thread to the Pokémon thread as opposed to just X/Y? I want to chat about my hopes and dreams for Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire :D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on May 30, 2014, 06:17:11 pm
Just to clarify, the move Baton Pass is not being banned, only the number of Pokemon on a team that can use it, like what happened with Drizzle + Swift Swim last Gen
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on May 30, 2014, 06:22:13 pm
Just one baton passer then?? that´s good. Sadly no more magikarp sweeps :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on May 30, 2014, 07:03:41 pm
Aw... poor Pimpnite.
No wait, does he use Showdown?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on May 30, 2014, 09:48:50 pm
Just one baton passer then?? that´s good. Sadly no more magikarp sweeps :(
The proposed clause is that only a maximum of 3 Baton Passers per team is allowed, as it was determined through testing that 4 is the bare minimum required for a full Baton Pass team to function flawlessly.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 02, 2014, 12:58:48 pm
Good golly.
So many rules! And a new rule on top of the other ones! Is Smogon so obsessed with the concept of a balanced metagame that they are turning into rule freaks?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 02, 2014, 03:25:52 pm
So many rules! And a new rule on top of the other ones! Is Smogon so obsessed with the concept of a balanced metagame that they are turning into rule freaks?
Unless you want people getting railroaded by stuff like Prankster+Swagger, MegaKangaskhan, and Minimize Baton Pass Drifblim (http://www.youtube.com/user/Verlisify), then yes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 02, 2014, 07:51:42 pm
So May is over, and the tiers have officially been reorganized (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/smogon-usage-based-tier-update-june-2014.3508291/)
Spoiler: OU List: 3 Month Usage (Mar-May)(click to see content)
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/065.png)/(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/065-m.png) OU -> UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/242.png) OU -> UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/282.png)/(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/282-m.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/706.png) OU -> UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/392.png) OU -> UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/135.png) UU -> RU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/448.png) OU -> UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/490.png) OU -> BL (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/310.png)/(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/310-m.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/308.png)(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/308-m.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/195.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/302.png) RU -> BL2 (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/545.png) BL -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/235.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/134.png) UU -> OU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/637.png) OU -> UU
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on June 03, 2014, 02:50:20 am
UU is a big hot mess now, ugh.
Jolteon RU?? mother of God, this is a complete mess. OU got really interesting now thought but I still don´t know why smeargle is even considered for OU... oh wait, it is OU now.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 03, 2014, 03:19:31 pm
OU got really interesting now thought but I still don´t know why smeargle is even considered for OU... oh wait, it is OU now.
Mostly because of full Baton Pass being a thing at the moment, same reason why Vaporeon shot back up to OU and Espeon hasn't fallen down yet. Once the 3-Poke Baton Pass clause gets implemented, all three will fall back down guaranteed.
Still.. Blissey in UU. Who would have ever thought?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 04, 2014, 01:36:24 pm
So right now I'm attempting a little bit of a social experiment (no I'm not Luigi1632).
(http://i.imgur.com/86zk2gP.png)
Basically, I've been trying to breed (and inbreed, lol) a Kangaskhan I caught in HeartGold with a Level Ball. Normally when the baby doesn't turn out just right (ie: Perfect IVs aren't in the stats I'm trying to get, Ability is wrong, etc), I release it. This time, however, I decided to try something a little different, and Wonder Trade every failure Kangaskhan and see what I get. My main goal is to track what countries I trade with, and what Pokeball they were caught/bred in (extra points if it's female). There's also the side goal of seeing if anyone else is putting out Pokemon caught in Johto Apricorn Balls.
Spoiler: The Motherload(click to see content)
Trade #1 (http://i.imgur.com/k4hyL08.png)
Spoiler: Stats(click to see content)
Country: USA Trainer: Adrian Gender: Male Lv. 1 Ability: Guts Nature: Relaxed Characteristic: Mischievous Moves: Bite, Leer
Trade #2 (http://i.imgur.com/RtltRK5.png)
Spoiler: Stats(click to see content)
Country: Japan Trainer: Many Gender: Male Lv. 1 Ability: Steadfast Nature: Timid Characteristic: Capable of Taking Hits Moves: Blaze Kick, Crunch, Bullet Punch, Vacuum Wave
Trade #3 (http://i.imgur.com/YCuXhUQ.png)
Spoiler: Stats(click to see content)
Country: USA Trainer: Lyra Gender: Male Lv. 5 Ability: Run Away Nature: Modest Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas Moves: Rage, Defense Curl, Rollout
Trade #4 (http://i.imgur.com/ctbyE7D.png)
Spoiler: Stats(click to see content)
Country: USA Trainer: Anthony Gender: Female Lv. 1 Ability: Rock Head Nature: Adamant Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas Moves: Dragon Dance, Dragon Rush, Fire Fang, Hydro Pump
Trade #5 (http://i.imgur.com/TsRd5M9.png)
Spoiler: Stats(click to see content)
Country: USA Trainer: Adam Gender: Male Lv. 1 Ability: Overgrow Nature: Timid Characteristic: Scatters Things Often Moves: Tackle, Giga Drain
Trade #6 (http://i.imgur.com/TvM1jD9.png)
Spoiler: Stats(click to see content)
Country: USA Trainer: Jeryl Gender: Male Lv. 1 Ability: Marvel Scale Nature: Adamant Characteristic: Takes plenty of siestas Moves: Extreme Speed, Dragon Rush, Dragon Breath, Iron Tail
Trade #7 (http://i.imgur.com/6AcUIoi.png)
Spoiler: Stats(click to see content)
Country: Japan Trainer: なおや Gender: Female Lv. 17 Ability: No Guard Nature: Gentle Characteristic: Quick to Flee Moves: Leer, Focus Energy, Karate Chop, Low Kick
So what did I learn from this?
That Japan SUCKS at giving away Pokemon. Also of note, that every Pokemon with the exception of Dunsparce and Machop were apparently bred, as each one had at least 3 perfect IVs.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on June 04, 2014, 08:24:42 pm
I usually wondertrade my breeding extras. Why not give out countless protean froakies, speed boost torchics, moody smeargles, ghastlies bred to know disable, marvel scale dratinis bred to know extreme speed, dream ball hustle nidorans, and other neat things.
Well besides that if your trade partner does not have a japanese name you're usually not gonna get anything rare yourself in exchange but whatever.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 04, 2014, 10:02:13 pm
At least the mass availability of Protean Froakies will hopefully persuade people to stop using Torrent.
Which reminds me, I should start WT'ing my breeding extras again.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 05, 2014, 03:20:46 am
Maybe you can trade some of those leftovers to me!
I would like a Kangaskhan so I can kick so much butt with its mega evo.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 05, 2014, 03:23:24 am
I already added your friend code on my 3DS, add mine.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 05, 2014, 08:57:47 am
Pretty much want every player that faces Mega Kangaskhan keeps saying.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 05, 2014, 09:39:31 am
It's not invincible, dude. You can play around him. Hell I can think of a few ways off the top of my head.
- Cofagrigus is probably the BEST counter. Mega-evolved Kangaskhan can't hit him with her STAB or Power-Up Punch, and any form of contact (read: her best moves) will replace Parental Bond with Mummy. - Will-O-Wisp, preferably on a quicker Pokemon or something with Prankster or... Cofagrigus! - If you're running Mega-Gengar, goad your opponent into mega-evolving Kangaskhan, which removes his ability to use Kangaskhan's STAB on Ghost types, forcing him to rely on Sucker Punch (because seriously, who's going to run Crunch on this thing). Which you can now take advantage of by switching into something that you actually DO intend to counter with (ie: Prankster Pokemon with Will-O-Wisp) - Roar/Whirlwind gets rid of Power-Up Punch boosts. - Pretty much any Defense-oriented ghost can take it.
Note: I don't go by Smogon rules because fuck Smogon
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 05, 2014, 02:01:40 pm
Also, I will also be using Mega Kangaskhan in the Battle Maison in addition to Online Play.
Remember that Online Play does not have any rules other than what was handed down by Nintendo. They do not care if Smogon existed or not.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 05, 2014, 04:19:21 pm
I shouldn't have to use specific Pokémon to counter others. It comes to a point when a Pokémon can only be countered by one or two Pokémon :/
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 05, 2014, 09:41:36 pm
I shouldn't have to use specific Pokémon to counter others. It comes to a point when a Pokémon can only be countered by one or two Pokémon :/
Thus ended the sad, sad tale of Genesect, MegaKhan, and MegaLuke :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on June 05, 2014, 09:43:17 pm
I always play SF2 with the you-throw-me-i-get-a-throw-back rule too
it's really hard to enforce on ggpo
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 05, 2014, 09:59:03 pm
Remember how Stealth Rock ended up being a staple in competitive battling? Nowadays it's pretty much necessary to run Rapid Spin support, have a Ghost-type to stop people from Rapid Spinning your rocks off their side, and pick Pokemon based on how well they handle the move.
Kangaskhan is the same deal. If everyone incorporates a Kangaskhan counter into their team, Kangaskhan stops being OP and starts just being "that thing you deal with."
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on June 06, 2014, 01:03:28 am
but not everyone likes to run a specific pokemon for anything. Having to run a specific pokemon on your team just to counter something is wrong. Apparently dugtrio in UU could be a thing for Volcarona.
- Will-O-Wisp, preferably on a quicker Pokemon or something with Prankster or... Cofagrigus!
Only this works well. Cofagrigus could take a sucker punch or predict it since people are quite mindless with mega kangaskhan. going for the immediate sucker punch and stuff.
Defog is OP anyways so it is preferable to run defog over rapid spin at this point.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 06, 2014, 03:52:58 am
You can't realistically counter every threat in the game. Your skill is more readily defined by your ability to adapt to a given situation with the tools you have.
I don't like Smogon, but since we're talking Pokemon Showdown here, Kangaskhan was pretty easy for me to counter before it was banned. I don't even follow competitive Pokemon fads, but I generally had something to take care of Kangaskhan. Sometimes it just fit in with my strategy (ie: Baton-Pass Quiver Dance to Nidoking), sometimes the Pokemon was just well-built (SubDisable Gengar), or sometimes I just did something that the opponent just wasn't prepared for (Weezing running Stockpile/Will-o-Wisp/Pain Split/).
Obviously the days of running a team of five Magikarp and one Alakazam are over, but the individual Pokemon selection is secondary to the ability to play well.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 06, 2014, 06:59:55 am
Defog is OP anyways so it is preferable to run defog over rapid spin at this point.
Except Rapid Spin doesn't give Bisharp/Thundurus a free +2 attack just by switching in. That's pretty much the only thing holding Defog back, plus the fact that it removes your own hazards as well (Defensive teams don't mind as much since they can just set up again later, but offensive teams usually only have one opportunity to set up whatever hazards they need to unless they're running Defense Deoxys, so Rapid Spin is still preferred in those cases.)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 10, 2014, 02:41:00 am
Except Rapid Spin doesn't give Bisharp/Thundurus a free +2 attack just by switching in. That's pretty much the only thing holding Defog back, plus the fact that it removes your own hazards as well (Defensive teams don't mind as much since they can just set up again later, but offensive teams usually only have one opportunity to set up whatever hazards they need to unless they're running Defense Deoxys, so Rapid Spin is still preferred in those cases.)
Replying to this now cause recently saw a defiant bisharp getting a +4 in attack by sticky web and defog in the same turn... it sweeped.
Prankster thundurus is way more common since thundurus doesn´t have that huge physical movepool but it could happen.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 12, 2014, 01:55:21 am
So I was breeding to get a Chandelure so that in Doubles, Kangaskhan has backup if someone sends out a Trevenant or Gourgeist or Cofagrigus or whatever. At one point I apparently fell asleep and I was just doing the movements instinctively. Sleep-Pokemon, as it were.
When I came to I had a female Litwick that somehow had 31 IV's in every stat, and for some reason I named it "Fenter." I was going to give it a clever name relating to ghosts, but there's just something about "Fenter" that is keeping me from changing the name.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 12, 2014, 09:03:17 am
Creepypasta material right there :smug:
"Suddenly, I heard a voice coming from behind me. I turned around to see a Litwick plush with blood dripping from its eyes."
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Tyrant Belial on June 12, 2014, 06:01:47 pm
. . .Fenter? I only think of three things of the top of my head. The mispelling of finger as fenter. a bad creepypasta. . .
And Fenton. Danny Fenton. You gotta catch em all cus you're Danny Fenter now.
Edit: I;m trying my hardest to remember the Danny Phantom Lyrics and turn them into a pokemon version but I can't.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 15, 2014, 03:05:59 pm
You know, I would like to have other patterns of Vivillon (especially the Sunny and Ocean patterns). But it turns out that the only way to get a different pattern is through trading with people of different regions.
And the people on the GTS wants legendary pokemon for the rarest patterns, so that does not help things at all.
With that being said, does anyone have Vivillon (or their pre-evos) that are willing to trade away and have different patterns?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 15, 2014, 03:45:05 pm
If you want the boring green one, you know I'll be up for trading it.
What do I want in return? Anything. Scatterbug, hatching rejects, Route 1 Pokémon...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 16, 2014, 12:13:14 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: R565 on June 16, 2014, 12:17:28 am
NOOOO......
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 16, 2014, 12:27:34 am
Speaking of the Baton Pass ban, alot of the upper tier players and mods are up in arms because Vaporeon, a pokemon who was only promoted to OU earlier this month, is no longer viable in OU, and now they have to wait three months for it to officially fall back down to UU so they can reject its OU analysis from the main site.
... Vaporeon is the new Donphan
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on June 16, 2014, 04:36:30 am
hahahah, this is way too funny.
Suspecting Baton Pass: "Sure, let´s add Vaporeon to OU now"
Baton Pass limited to 3 getting a severe nerf: "Meh, Vaporeon doesn´t deserve OU status"
Jesus Christ, deal with Baton Pass stuff first then you deal with tier usage and shit. Ugh.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 17, 2014, 08:35:42 am
So because I hate myself, I am in the midst of the long, cruel process of looking for a female Espurr with its Hidden Ability, solely for the ability to pass the Pokeball onto its babies. To give you an idea of how insane this is, I've been doing this for three hours, and I found a SHINY Espurr, but still no Espurr with a Hidden Ability.
BTW just so you know the process, I have a Lv. 42 Kadabra with Roleplay right now, and I basically wait til an Espurr shows up and use Roleplay on it. It's pretty straightforward as long as the Espurr doesn't use Psyshock because that wrecks Kadabra's shit.
I have a boring ol' Espurr in a Pokeball with the Hidden Ability that I got from a GTS trade, but it's so boring :(
EDIT: Gave up, but investigating the Japanese Espurr revealed an interesting combo of moves: Yawn, Trick, Barrier, and Assist. I've never heard of Meowstic using any of those, but I was thinking of using one of them. How does this sound?
Quick Guard (Must-have to stop Taunt) Trick (To cripple something with the Choice Scarf) Safeguard (To stop status) Charm (To further mess with Physical Attackers)/Yawn (To pressure people into switching)
I dunno, Meowstic just has so many options!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 21, 2014, 01:03:47 am
Gen 4 wifi is back online. sort of.... (http://save-nintendo-wifi.com/pkmn-dp/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Killer Kong on June 21, 2014, 03:05:43 am
I don't think you should complain about luck in Pokemon(in relation to the article). BUT you should definitely not be afraid to gamble, because if I don't go all in I can't go at all.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on June 21, 2014, 03:30:58 am
Sometimes you gotta take risks. Sometimes the risks are the better plays.
If you have a way to stop taunt then you can go all insane with it. That particular set you´re aiming for is damn good in doubles (pretty sure is for doubles).
Meowstic has one colorful movepool to abuse with prankster. Probably the prankster with the biggest movepool.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 21, 2014, 08:43:57 am
Yeah it's for doubles. Also first battle vid upload:
BEVG-WWWW-WWW8-27WE
No Meowstic, but I mess around with Mega Medicham a bit. I didn't know free play let you bring legendaries in, so I almost shit a brick when I saw Mewtwo and Yveltal as my opponents, and moreso when Mewtwo got a lucky freeze against Chandelure. I still won tho because I have no idea what his strategy even was and almost every Pokemon I used had perfect IVs from hours of repeated breeding (although Raikou and Nidoking have super low attack IVs to lower the effects of confusion and Foul Play).
Mega Medicham is cool but she is toast if someone can outspeeds her. If I pair her up with Meowstic, maybe I can trick an Iron Ball or something.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Nameless353 on June 22, 2014, 08:03:38 am
...but she is toast if someone can outspeeds her. If I pair her up with Meowstic, maybe I can trick an Iron Ball or something.
Maybe using something like Tailwind or Sticky Web could do the job.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Errdor on June 22, 2014, 07:04:27 pm
Is it really suggested to use Hone Claws for Barbaracle to increase accuracy and attack or Shell Smash for more Attack and Special Attack for Razor Shell/Night Slash?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 22, 2014, 10:48:45 pm
Shell Smash, hands down. +2 attack and +2 speed is too good to pass up, and Hone Claws is basically inferior to Swords Dance
EDIT: Bye Bye evil space aliens (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/np-xy-ou-suspect-testing-round-4-alienation-of-the-wretched.3509824/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 23, 2014, 03:16:26 am
Off the top of my head, the only two Pokemon I know of that benefit from Hone Claws:
Durant, who lacks Swords Dance and has Hustle as an ability. Hone Claws adds on to its Hustle-boosted attack whilst patching up it Hustle-nerfed accuracy.
Dugtrio, who also lacks Swords Dance, but can switch in on something it can fight, set up a Substitute, and rack up Hone Claws boosts while the opponent watches helplessly due to Arena Trap. Additionally this means you can run Stone Edge without worrying about missing. In fact now I'm considering running a Dugtrio because this sounds so awesome.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Errdor on June 23, 2014, 04:05:48 am
Yeah that was the purpose because I'm making his moveset to be more of a critical hit sweeper due to his ability, Sniper and I'll be slapping in Scope Lens for that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 23, 2014, 06:57:13 am
Good lord I just got swept by a CHESTO REST SNORLAX WTF
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 23, 2014, 07:14:44 am
I recall a Hone Claws Nidoking set from Gen 5 that used to utilize Hone Claws, Earthquake, Thunder, and Blizzard, with the standard Life Orb Sheer Force EV build. Dunno how viable it is now, though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 23, 2014, 02:09:38 pm
SP2G-WWWW-WWW8-3UMA
Medicham now has a BFF! Also I fight a team centered around... Stantler?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 24, 2014, 04:44:19 am
Good lord I just got swept by a CHESTO REST SNORLAX WTF
I need to see that to believe it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 24, 2014, 08:39:56 am
I wished I saved the vid but basically it went something like this
I start with Medicham and Klefki. Opponent sends out Aerodactyl and Snorlax.
Aerodactyl mega-evolves and Snorlax uses a Stockpile. Aerodactyl proceeds to wreck my Medicham's shit with Sky Drop.
I revenge-kill the Aerodactyl with Raikou. Snorlax does another Stockpile.
I finally sense something's up so I paralyze the Snorlax with Klefki while I deal with Weavile. Snorlax is still able to squeeze off another Stockpile.
I finally concentrate all of my energy against the Snorlax, but it's not enough. Snorlax Belly Drums and maxes out his attack. Meanwhile, there's a Rotom-W making life miserable.
I make Raikou hit Rotom-W with Thunderbolt and use Klefki to finish off the kill. Snorlax uses Rest, then immediately wakes up due to Chesto Berry.
Snorlax proceeds OHKO everyone left on my team with Crunch while barely taking any damage
Basically, the guy sent out a bunch of high-level threats to keep me distracted while his Snorlax buffed himself up enough.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on June 26, 2014, 06:15:02 am
Quote
Dugtrio, who also lacks Swords Dance, but can switch in on something it can fight, set up a Substitute, and rack up Hone Claws boosts while the opponent watches helplessly due to Arena Trap. Additionally this means you can run Stone Edge without worrying about missing. In fact now I'm considering running a Dugtrio because this sounds so awesome.
During the last days of Gen 5, a colleague of mine entered a tourney that bans Legendaries including Articuno and Events while allowing stuff like Swift Swim teams (unsurprisingly the top 3 teams were this) and he won with a Dugtrio on his team. Standard Choice Item but it did assisted him in some games at that event. Dugs is very underrated these days.
He won a Xerneas 3DS afterwards.
There was one at my locals during Gen 5 that tried Hone Claws on Metagross with Agility for some reason. Risky but it became more of a threat when set up.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 26, 2014, 12:26:14 pm
I finally fought someone here on Guild, and that someone is DJ HANNIBALROYCE
33RG-WWWW-WWW8-5K82
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 26, 2014, 01:55:30 pm
Y37G-WWWW-WWW8-5LG8
Medicham, Klefki, Raikou, and Nidoking take on a team of legendaries. BTW, legit question: Why is it that I'm only allowed to pick four Pokemon but my opponent can pick six?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 26, 2014, 03:16:28 pm
Iirc, wifi battles outside of battle spot don't have the 3/4 Pokemon restriction
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 26, 2014, 08:59:31 pm
Somehow I still get stuck with the restriction every time, however. Dunno how it works.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 26, 2014, 11:38:37 pm
A handicap is being set by someone.
Based on win:loss ratio (or something), the amount of Pokémon you can use changes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 27, 2014, 12:17:00 pm
Well that explains a lot, seeing how most of the people I fight that get around that limit are either horrible and/or have teams of nothing but legendaries.
Sidenote: I just fought a random person and added them as a friend, and I got a Friend Safari with Wartortles! Currently breeding an army of 5/6 IV Squirtles with Rain Dish in Timer Balls (I used a male Sylveon with Cute Charm to make it easier to get a female with the HA). Now I just need to friend someone who has a safari with Ivysaurs, and I'll be REALLY stoked.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 27, 2014, 01:54:30 pm
I would really like to have one of those Squirtles.
Just in case that I need one for my competitive play.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 27, 2014, 02:29:29 pm
Okay it's gonna be a while tho. Catching it was easy, breeding it is HARD because all the starters tend to come out male more often than not (too lazy to pull up the exact value, something like 12% chance of a starter's baby being a female?), and when they're female there's a good chance that I get Torrent instead of Rain Dish. Also add on that I'm trying to give Blastoise a competitive edge*, and you have quite an infuriating process!
Spoiler: *(click to see content)
Unless someone knows an easier way, this is how I'm doing it.
First, Part A
Caught female Squirtle with Rain Dish and naturally 2 perfect IVs.
Give it a Destiny Knot
Put in Daycare with a Ditto with Modest Nature with perfect IVs in every stat holding an Everstone (I have one for each nature that I transferred over from B/W, save for the neutrals and Lax and Gentle because they're stupid)
Constantly breed them until I get a Female Squirtle with Rain Dish with 3 perfect IVs
Give her the Destiny Knot, with draw the old Squirtle from Day Care, put in the new one
Repeat 4 and 5 until I get a Female Squirtle with 5 perfect IVs (or if I'm lucky, 6)
Then, Part B
Catch a Clauncher, preferably male
Repeat 2-6 of Part A, except replace Female Squirtle with Male Clauncher
Evolve into Clawitzer (get Clauncher up to Lv. 37)
Assuming I am not a total idiot and didn't forget to farm Heart Scales, go to the Move Relearner and teach it Aura Sphere
Finally, Part C
Put the Squirtle from Part A into Daycare with the Clauncher from Part B
Give one of them the Destiny Knot and the other one an Everstone
Keep on Breeding those Squirtles until I get a Squirtle with near perfect IVs (ideally, 31/X/31/31/31/31), Rain Dish, and Aura Sphere as a move
At the moment, I'm still working on Part A.
Suck it, Brock. You call yourself a Pokemon breeder?!
Joy.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 28, 2014, 03:27:49 am
Jango, I have a friend who has a friend safari with Ivysaur in it. I'd be more than willing to trade a HA Ivysaur for a female HA Squirtle. IV count doesn't matter to me, I have a 6IV Ditto I RNG'd back in the day. Egg moves aren't needed, as I can get them myself. And this would be a good excuse to get you to add me
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on June 28, 2014, 03:30:58 am
Damn, getting that 6IV legit blastoise with some pulses attacks is gonna take a while! Good look in your crusade, I respect that.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 28, 2014, 03:55:26 am
Well the second egg I hatched trying to get a female HA Bulbasaur: Perfect HP, Att, Def, SpA. Modest Nature Female. So Jango, my offer stands at that little one
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 28, 2014, 04:04:32 am
Jango, I have a friend who has a friend safari with Ivysaur in it. I'd be more than willing to trade a HA Ivysaur for a female HA Squirtle. IV count doesn't matter to me, I have a 6IV Ditto I RNG'd back in the day. Egg moves aren't needed, as I can get them myself. And this would be a good excuse to get you to add me
Added, just gimme a sec, my internet is being stupid on my 3DS. Also I keep getting males :(
Damn, getting that 6IV legit blastoise with some pulses attacks is gonna take a while! Good look in your crusade, I respect that.
TECHNICALLY, the best case scenario would be 5IV with a really low Attack IV, so that I can reduce Confusion and Foul Play damage, but if I get all 31's, that'll be cool.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 28, 2014, 04:12:51 am
Well actually gender doesn't matter, as long as it's HA I can breed one
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 28, 2014, 04:21:43 am
Trade successful! Thanks!
Also if you don't mind me asking, what's my Friend Safari have?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 28, 2014, 04:26:53 am
Teddiursa, Audino, and for the life of me I can't find the third one muhhfuckin Chansey
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 28, 2014, 04:35:17 am
Dawwww my safari had to be so friggin cute
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 29, 2014, 03:50:44 am
Welp, I forgot Clauncher is a Pokemon X exclusive, so I'm trying out the GTS and hoping that offering a female Squirtle with Rain Dish will entice someone to fulfill it. Considering how many people want shit like Yveltal and Arceus for their Squirtles, hopefully mine stands out.
Which brings me to my next point: I finally got a Female Squirtle with Rain Dish and 5 IVs! In the process, not counting the one on GTS but counting the one I have at daycare, I have four extra female Rain Dish Squirtle on hand! Regarding their stats:
They have between 3-4 perfect IVs
They are in Timer Balls
All of them are Lv. 1 except for my daycare Squirtle which is Lv. 17 last I checked.
If anyone wants one, hit me up.
I also have 14 Male Squirtle with Rain Dish but fuck male Hidden Ability breeding, I'll probably just randomly drop them on Wonder Trade.
Also whenever I breed a lot of Pokemon, I give them all garbage nicknames, just so that it's easier for me to identify which one is which so I don't accidentally dump the wrong ones, so sorry :( SQUIRTLE CLAIMED: 2 Xan, Pikachu Guy
SQUIRTLE LEFT: 3
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on June 29, 2014, 03:54:07 am
Gonna boot up X and trade you. I don't remember registering you, but I did. EDIT: Thanks.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 29, 2014, 04:59:22 am
Can I have one of the Squirtles?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 29, 2014, 06:50:56 am
Sure. I think I friended you so log on and let's do this!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: D.Magician on June 29, 2014, 07:00:26 am
If you wouldn't mind, can you explain how you got/breeded them in Timer Balls, please?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on June 29, 2014, 07:21:59 am
The mother now passes down the Pokeball they were captured in (except for Master Balls) to their offspring. Capturing was a simple matter of Friend Safaris.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: D.Magician on June 29, 2014, 07:40:17 am
Thanks for the help, Xan.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 29, 2014, 10:27:28 am
The mother now passes down the Pokeball they were captured in (except for Master Balls) to their offspring. Capturing was a simple matter of Friend Safaris.
Also Cherish Balls. I tried it with my Shiny Pikachu which I evolved from that Shiny Pichu event back in HG/SS. No go. :(
Welp, I'm now in Phase C, although because I can, I added Dragon Pulse to the Egg moves as well as Aura Sphere. Apparently Squirtle can't get Dark Pulse until you evolve it to Blastoise and boot up the TM.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on June 29, 2014, 10:34:07 am
No need to pine my event Blaziken being male, then.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on June 29, 2014, 11:25:15 am
I have Squirtle's with Aura Sphere/Dragon Pulse with Torrent as the ability, I don't much care for Rain Dish.
However, the best moveset imo is:
Iron Defense/Hydro Pump/Aura Sphere/Dragon Pulse
Eh to be fair, me neither, but I figure the option should be there in the event I run into a Rain Team. Just like how the Bulbasaur I am now currently breeding is going to have Chlorophyll even though I'm not running a Sun Team. The only exception to this for the starters is Charmander's Solar Power. Dude's weak enough as is, he doesn't need to be losing more HP than necessary, especially when the only reason you'd have Charizard on your team is to mega-evolve it (Venusaur can hold his own even if he doesn't Mega-Evolve, for example).
Dunno why you'd run Iron Defense on that moveset, seems a bit counterproductive to me versus, say, a move that can boost attack or something. Now if you were going to be walling and healing, then maybe. Or if you were doing a Rain Team with (surprise) Rain Dish, then you'd have complementary healing with it prior to Mega-Evolving.
Also Dragon/Fighting/Water doesn't hit Shedinja, so if you run into him you're fucked. Granted, Dark/Fighting/Water gets resisted by Toxicroak, but that's why Ice Beam is there, not to mention that it does the same job as Dragon Typing, but has the added advantage of taking care of Grass types as well as TFC pointed out up there. Here's a list of types with perfect coverage for VGC 2014 (http://nuggetbridge.com/forums/topic/3007-vgc-14-perfect-neutral-coverage-in-3-moves-or-less/)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: D.Magician on June 29, 2014, 09:29:32 pm
Well, I don't always battle online, but I'd like to start doing more of it.
I'm in the process of building a couple of teams.
Thanks for that link, tho. It'll be useful.
Also, I run Iron Defense on Blastoise cause he's a damn tank and if I were to get one or two ID's on him, he's pretty much unstoppable, depending how you want to capitalize on his power.
I normally do 85 EV's on all my teams, because I prefer a balanced team.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on June 29, 2014, 09:40:53 pm
Also, I run Iron Defense on Blastoise cause he's a damn tank and if I were to get one or two ID's on him, he's pretty much unstoppable, depending how you want to capitalize on his power.
And then a special attacker comes in and ruins your day.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on June 29, 2014, 09:43:45 pm
Does anyone know of a competitive thread here? Thanks to Jango I have a Squirtle to use now for Mega Blastoise or a rain team, and I have my MegaZard Y/Chloro Venusaur setup for a sun team, but I feel like it would be better to have a separate thread for discussing these things unless nobody really cares
Also, 85 is a complete waste. If you would like to give your Alakazam an extra 21 points in attack, go ahead. But, at least go 84 each with one getting 90
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on June 29, 2014, 09:49:25 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on June 29, 2014, 10:01:21 pm
You could try asking in PS (Pokemon Showdown) for more specific questions.
Most mega blastoise just go 252 SpA and 252 HP cause megatoise is pretty bulky with no investment in defenses. It will most likely live an unboosted attack if isn´t STAB.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 29, 2014, 10:29:24 pm
Personally, I'm running the EV Spread that R Inanimate (http://nuggetbridge.com/reports/villians-always-plot-dark-nb-major-top-32-seattle-runner-report/) used in her (I think R Inanimate is a girl, could be wrong tho) last tournament because her justification is sound to me, and I've been a big fan ever since she beat the shit out of me way back in one of the Wi-Fi tournaments.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: D.Magician on June 30, 2014, 12:39:59 am
Also, 85 is a complete waste. If you would like to give your Alakazam an extra 21 points in attack, go ahead. But, at least go 84 each with one getting 90
I'll stick to my method, it hasn't failed me before.
Also, how the hell did you no that I have an Alakazam? I never mention'd it before...
Are you a magician :o
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 30, 2014, 05:55:13 am
Maybe because until recently, Alakazam was one of the most powerful Pokemon to do a Special sweep? But yeah, investing ANY EVs into Attack for Alakazam is really pointless since Alakazam's physical movepool and Attack stat in general are both pretty bad.
In other news, with the Eevee Friendly coming up, I'm trying to see if I can breed a team of Eevees for it, and (as usual), give each Eevee its own ball. Currently I'm doing:
As far as abilities go, I'm only trying to get Espeon with its Hidden Ability, because those are the only ones that would probably benefit, since I don't want to give up immunities on Jolteon/Vaporeon, Umbreon's normal ability is better by default, I doubt I'll be getting any Sun Teams to take advantage of Leafeon's hidden ability, and Sylveon's is pretty much pointless unless you're trying to make a Round Team.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on June 30, 2014, 06:02:00 am
Sylveon's is pretty much pointless unless you're trying to make a Round Team.
Anybody with access to move tutors (Hyper Voice) would say otherwise.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 30, 2014, 06:08:10 am
I gotta check the rules, but aren't Move Tutor moves banned in this tournament? At least that how it was for pretty much every tourney up to this point.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on June 30, 2014, 06:09:02 am
If they're only allowing Kalos-bred mons, then yeah, move tutor moves (aside from the starter-only moves) are banned by extension. I haven't been keeping up on tourneys.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 30, 2014, 06:10:47 am
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• Players may use only Pokémon found, caught, hatched from an Egg, or received through a special promotion in Pokémon X or Pokémon Y. • Pokémon brought over from Pokémon Black, Pokémon White, Pokémon Black 2, or Pokémon White 2 Versions via the Poké Transporter cannot participate.
Yup :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on June 30, 2014, 06:11:28 am
Shit. No wonder I haven't been competing in tourneys or battling outside of a few choice friends.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 30, 2014, 06:31:00 am
Pikachu Guy has claimed my second female Squirtle. Two left.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on June 30, 2014, 06:32:45 am
Jango, I have doubts about me entering this mini tourney with Eevees (recent one was the international one for a free Enigma Berry), but I have a spare Sylveon you can use, all EV trained and Flawless IV I had made months ago when I was crazy active in XY.
Though it's more around the special variety with egg move Wish. Forgot what ball I used, Heal Ball I think.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 30, 2014, 06:34:41 am
Sounds awesome! Do you have me on X/Y
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on June 30, 2014, 06:43:04 am
Yep, I think.
Also before Armaggaddon had arrived in the servers I manage to get an overload of needable mons currently imprisoned in my Black 2 cartridge because I've yet to finish in Diamond for some reason (Vita sellout). I do have a female Eevee with a Dream Ball, if not then I still have an Eevee in Entralink (before Dream World got nuked) yet to be catched along with other stuff.
So I just need to breed that to send it.
Planning of being more active when Omega Ruby arrives. Fortunately I still have a team that can be used in my local gathering.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on June 30, 2014, 08:51:41 am
If they're only allowing Kalos-bred mons, then yeah, move tutor moves (aside from the starter-only moves) are banned by extension. I haven't been keeping up on tourneys.
Isn't there a way to breed Hyper Voice onto a Kalos native Eevee?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on June 30, 2014, 08:55:22 am
nope.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on June 30, 2014, 11:23:45 am
Damn. They should change that for ORAS.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on June 30, 2014, 12:54:02 pm
Dammit, that abbreviation made me want the next gen to introduce Pokemon Stands
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 01, 2014, 02:08:16 pm
Got two of the Eevees near-finished (just need to level them up)
Spoiler: Jolteon(click to see content)
(http://i.imgur.com/GfapbXF.jpg)
Pretty typical special sweeper, except his Speed IV is substantially lower than what I would've wanted, but hey, I needed Ice HP and it's not like any of the other Eeveelutions can even compare to Jolteon's speed.
Movelist is just your standard Jolteon set plus Thunder Wave because I couldn't think of an idea for a fourth attack.
Spoiler: Leafeon(click to see content)
(http://i.imgur.com/eR0uYh4.jpg)
On the other side of the spectrum, we have a Swords Dance setup sweeper that has awesome physical defense. Unlike Jolteon, I got the exact spread I wanted (it also helps that I didn't have to breed for Hidden Power either). Moveset is temporary because I haven't leveled him up high enough to give him Leaf Sword (it will replace Rock Smash when I get it).
Also, how the word censor let those nicks slip by is unknown to me.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 01, 2014, 02:09:38 pm
Movelist is just your standard Jolteon set plus Thunder Wave because I couldn't think of an idea for a fourth attack.
Crazy idea but there are Choice Scarf Jolteon in hopes of outspending enemy mirrors in Rotation. Thunder Wave might not work but there's Volt Switch, or it can set up Weather to help Leafeon's speed.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 01, 2014, 02:34:33 pm
LOL for some reason I thought R Inanimate was a girl. Also yeah, will probably swap out Thunder Wave with Volt Switch, and the Choice Scarf idea just might work (too bad Jolteon doesn't know Trick otherwise I could have more fun with it)! Don't really see any real use for weather at all in this tourney (hence why Leafeon is just running its default ability), but I get what you're saying and I can understand its merits.
So far I think the only problem I'd run into would be Sylveon, because at most I can hit it with STAB moves no matter who I pick. I'm not really worried about Glaceon or Flareon causing problems though.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on July 01, 2014, 09:03:44 pm
Flareon would take a moonblast from a sylveon really well, ironically. Even if flareon is the worst eeveevolutions in terms of viability it has its own merits.
Just hit sylveon in the defensive stat with that leafeon and you´re good to go.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 01, 2014, 10:50:33 pm
Flareon finally got Flare Blitz, so it would make the perfect counter to Sylveon in an Eevee-only tournament. Could take even three Pixilate Hyper Voices, and OHKOs with the standard Guts Toxic Orb Flare Blitz.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
4 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Flareon: 63-75 (23.1 - 27.5%) -- 1.1% chance to 3HKO after toxic damage 252 Atk Guts Flareon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Sylveon: 417-492 (105.8 - 124.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 02, 2014, 01:39:47 am
Heh, wow, Flareon might actually have some utility now, and IIRC correctly, only Vaporeon is a threat to it. Even better, I don't have to worry about Hyper Voice since, as was mentioned earlier, it's a move tutor move. I guess I could run something like...
Flareon Guts Nature: Adamant (Flareon won't be outunning any of the Eeveelutions any time soon, so why bother) EVs: 252 Att, 252 SpD (in case I accidentally switch in on a Vaporeon Surf/Scald), and... 4 HP I guess? Flare Blitz Facade Bite (if I run into Espeon) ... Flame Charge maybe? I dunno, his movepool is so limited in X/Y
Hell, this almost makes me want to start my team over and make it a Drought team just to spam Flare Blitz in the Sun.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 02, 2014, 04:22:51 am
Flareon @ Toxic Orb Guts 4 HP/252+ Atk/244 SpD/8 Spe (Speed creeping on any Flareon switches that want to speed creep on uninvested opponents) -Flare Blitz -Facade -Bite -Flame Charge/Quick Attack
Flare Blitz is main stab, but against things like Espeon, Facade kills as well
However, Umbreon almost OHKOs with Foul Play, so unless you catch it on the switch you can't do much.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
252+ Atk Guts Flareon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Umbreon: 297-349 (75.3 - 88.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Guts Flareon Quick Attack vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Umbreon: 67-79 (17 - 20%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery
This option gives you something like a 60% chance to KO on the switch by spamming Flare Blitz and then finishing opponents with Quick Attack as priority. And against Jolteon:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
252+ SpA Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 244 SpD Flareon: 160-190 (58.8 - 69.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after toxic damage 252+ Atk Guts Flareon Facade (140 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Jolteon: 379-447 (139.3 - 164.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
In the case of this, you may want to run 252 Spe just to make sure you can hope for a speed tie on other Flareon and OHKO with Facade. And since it appears that the most used variant of Flareon is Jolly 252 Spe, you may run into that quite a lot.
And as seen elsewhere, Facade will be your best option against Vaporeon, scoring a 2HKO against fully invested sets. And by speed creeping, your guaranteed a safe battle on a switch into it if you spam Facade. Considering most threats aren't taking much damage from Flare Blitz, it may be safer to spam Facade as your main offensive option, especially on teams with Vaporeon. You also outspeed uninvested Umbreon and 2HKO with Facade. In fact, your biggest threat while spamming Facade is actually Leafeon, who almost always survives after the switch, and deals 50% with Knock Off, and can either try to protect stall go for the 2HKO with it. So, after I've written this well thought out analysis paper, you can deduce that your main issues using Flareon are going to be Leafeon, Umbreon with speed investment, or other Flareon running speed investment. Also, if you run mixed defenses, even a bastard set with 124 in SpD, you can have a chance of surviving two fully invested Psychics from Espeon and OHKO with anything not named Quick Attack. However, should you decide to run Flame Charge, you remove most speed threats after three uses and after that speed issues aren't an issue on potential switches. So, for some reason I wrote you a research paper on Flareon. Enjoi ;D
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 02, 2014, 06:44:19 am
I would personally reconfigure the EV spreading instead of dumping everything to Attack. Rather i would set the Attack EVs to "kill Espeon and 2HKO anything else" range and pass the rest to HP or speed to out creep common spreads and survive something from Vaporeon.
I don't really enjoy Flame Charge on it even if it needs two to bypass Jolteon. I would rather give it Toxic, Overheat, Protect for scouting, or Last Resort over Bite.
There are other methods I'm picturing on what would be present. Trick Room Espeon with 0-Speed IV Flareon and Normal Gem Adapt Last Resort Eevee for starters, can counter in a surprising way. I still am not use to Rotation.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 02, 2014, 04:01:47 pm
EVs: 252 Att, 252 SpD (in case I accidentally switch in on a Vaporeon Surf/Scald), and... 4 HP I guess?
Might I suggest a spread of 116 HP, 252 Attack, 140 SpD?
4 SpA Vaporeon Scald vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Flareon: 140-168 (51.4 - 61.7%) 4 SpA Vaporeon Scald vs. 116 HP / 140 SpD Flareon: 152-182 (50.6 - 60.6%)
Doesn't really make the difference between a 2HKO and a 3HKO in most cases, but it gives you slightly better special bulk, while also giving you some on the physical side. Just to demonstrate:
252 SpA Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Flareon: 145-172 (53.3 - 63.2%) 252 SpA Choice Specs Jolteon Thunderbolt vs. 116 HP / 140 SpD Flareon: 160-189 (53.3 - 63%)
252 SpA Espeon Psychic vs. 116 HP / 140 SpD Flareon: 120-142 (40 - 47.3%) -- 1.6% chance to 2HKO after toxic damage 252 SpA Espeon Psychic vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Flareon: 109-130 (40 - 47.7%) -- 4.7% chance to 2HKO after toxic damage
116 HP / 140 SpD also gives you a better chance of surviving Foul Play from Umbreon:
0- Atk Umbreon Foul Play vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Flareon: 258-304 (94.8 - 111.7%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO 0- Atk Umbreon Foul Play vs. 116 HP / 0 Def Flareon: 258-304 (86 - 101.3%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
Against opposing Flareon:
252+ Atk Guts Flareon Flare Blitz vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Flareon: 243-287 (89.3 - 105.5%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO 252+ Atk Guts Flareon Flare Blitz vs. 116 HP / 0 Def Flareon: 243-287 (81 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after toxic damage 252+ Atk Guts Flareon Quick Attack vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Flareon: 109-129 (40 - 47.4%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO after toxic damage 252+ Atk Guts Flareon Quick Attack vs. 116 HP / 0 Def Flareon: 109-129 (36.3 - 43%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after toxic damage
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 03, 2014, 12:55:59 am
Welp, thanks for the advice, everyone, but after playing for a long time without saving and my cartridge getting jiggled, I lost the Flareon I bred and the Espeon in progress. Not really motivated to enter now :( , sorry for you guys coming up with awesome sets and shit, it made me realize that the Eeveelutions aren't nearly as limited as they were last gen.
So to take my mind off of it, I'm playing through HeartGold again, just picking up Pokemon to transfer over in Johto balls for breeding. Currently transferred Sudowoodo in a Heavy Ball and Dunsparce in a Love Ball, but I'll be looking around for any other mons that might be fun to see in Johto balls.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 03, 2014, 03:44:05 am
Is there any chance I can make a request for some things? I don't really know what else I could offer you for them, but I have no way of getting these myself. The only things I really care to have are Growlithe's in Level balls and Heavy balls, because I like Arcanine, and I like those two special balls (phrasing)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 03, 2014, 04:01:47 am
Ah, Growlithe. Thankfully, that's part of my version exclusive, and I'm at the part of the game where they show up! I'll go look for two of 'em tonight. Maybe while I'm at it I'll look for some Mareep or something since apparently Mega Ampharos is a thing, and that I don't really see a point in running that Pokemon with its DW ability unless you were doing something weird like non-Mega Ampharos + Klinklang in double battl-pfffffhahahaha yeah right.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 03, 2014, 04:19:49 am
Yeah see I looked at the exclusives so I didn't go and be stupid and ask for Skarm or something, seeing as he's a SS exclusive. Actually, wait. Can you get Scyther in HGSS?
Also, because beating dead horses is fun, I believe I've come up with an optimal Flareon set.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
(http://i.imgur.com/FBMSstd.png)
Now, against other Eeveelutions, you'll still be deathbait against any revenging Umbreons, and Vaporeon swallows your Flare Blitz's or Facades and 2HKOs with surf, but you sweep up pretty much anything else. If you get the opportunity, it's best to come in on a Volt Switch from Jolteon so that you're in for the end of the turn and don't take unnecessary damage from your Toxic Orb, and can then proceed to destroy most anything on an unprepared team. Unless I'm misunderstanding something about these battles, that's the best general set I can come up with. Any problems?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 03, 2014, 09:21:23 am
Yeah see I looked at the exclusives so I didn't go and be stupid and ask for Skarm or something, seeing as he's a SS exclusive. Actually, wait. Can you get Scyther in HGSS?
Yeah, you can catch Scyther in HGSS, but only in the Bug Catching Contest, so they're all in Park Balls.
Also I caught both of those Growlithes. Goddamn those things are hard to catch (stop using Roar, dammit!). Pokebank is being stupid right now, though, so I'll upload them probably tomorrow or something.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 07, 2014, 08:59:32 pm
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Pokémon XY - Vivillon
As the GTS has reached 100 million Pokémon traded, the Vivillon pattern distribution has been announced. This pattern will run from tomorrow, July 8th, to July 31st 2014 over the Nintendo Network. This Vivillon is exclusive to this download and comes with the special move, Hold Hands, that no other Pokémon can have.
So all that for a Vivillon that learns Splash?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on July 07, 2014, 09:11:05 pm
What do you mean "all that"?!
IT'S THE BEST THING EVER.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 07, 2014, 09:21:02 pm
At least give it Hurricane or that money move that Inkay got or something. Damn it Gamefreak
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on July 07, 2014, 09:52:07 pm
Vivillon can learn Hurricane naturally, so what'd be the point?
Happy Hour? Eh...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Errdor on July 08, 2014, 01:47:04 am
Jango do you still have your Squirtles, cause I'm going all dakkas man. I'll add you.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 08, 2014, 06:46:12 am
Yeah, I have two left. Hit me up.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Errdor on July 08, 2014, 06:58:11 am
Oi I got it mang. Thanks and uh, what's my friend safari?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 08, 2014, 07:02:22 am
It's a Grass Safari with Petilil, Oddish, and Gogoat
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 08, 2014, 07:07:30 am
Also, as a sidenote, I now have four Pokemon with flawless IVs: Kangaskhan, Chandelure, Dunsparce, and Nincada.
Another sidenote: I really dislike that you can't get Shedinja to have a unique Pokeball; it will only be created if you have a spare slot in your party AND a plain Pokeball in your backpack. So no Timer Ball Shedinja for me :(
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on July 08, 2014, 08:01:08 pm
Oh how us pokebreeders love to accessorize.
So far my breeding adventures netted me
* 5IV Protean Greninja with toxic spikes * 5IV Sheer Force Nidoking in a Dream Ball * 2 5IV Gengar in Heal Balls one made for OU the other bred to know Disable and to be used in his mega evolution * 5IV Khangaskhan in a timer ball * 5IV poison heal Gliscor in a dream ball * 5IV Charizard * 6IV Hydregion in a Luxury Ball * 5IV Zweilous in a Luxury Ball * 2 5IV Multiscale Dragonites with Extreme Speed one is a Weakness Policy based build and the other is designed to be an annoying phase tank * 5IV Venasaur in a Nest Ball * 5IV Blaziken with Speed Boost * 2 5IV and 1 6IV Smeargles. One of the 5IVs and the 6IV Smeargles are in Premier Balls. The other 5IV Smeargle has the moody ability.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 08, 2014, 09:55:49 pm
Can someone explain to me this whole Dream Ball Aegislash shit please?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 08, 2014, 10:04:47 pm
Pretty simple. Pokemon caught in the Dream World are able to be captured in a Dream Ball. Aegislash or Honedge not once had been in Dream World let alone have the Pokeball be passed.
Only Honedge can be in different Pokeballs in XY. Cherish, Dream, Apricot, all hacked.
Meanwhile my Timer Ball Mimic Shedinja from Ruby still awaits to be ported =[
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on July 08, 2014, 10:06:13 pm
Pretty simple. Pokemon caught in the Dream World are able to be captured in a Dream Ball. Aegislash or Honedge not once had been in Dream World let alone have the Pokeball be passed.
Only Honedge can be in different Pokeballs in XY. Cherish, Dream, Apricot, all hacked.
Ah fair enough. But is said mon still considered legit if it was bred from a hack?
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Meanwhile my Timer Ball Mimic Shedinja from Ruby still awaits to be ported =[
No Gen 4/5 game or is it not allowed in Bank?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 08, 2014, 10:25:48 pm
If the ball came from hacked parents, it still counts a hack because Dream Balls can be passed down regardless of what came from Dream World or not.
Personally, it ain't a big deal. Not like it gives buffs or impossible moves, just a style. No reason to raise your pitchforks but it can lead to speculation that the player hacks their whole team. What it may lead to is a future patch to prevent Dream Ball breeding, which will suck for those that want to style or maybe the inability to pass Dream Balls in Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire. And that won't happen, at least for the former.
Also on my Shedinja is still in Ruby. Haven't added to Diamond because I still need to finish that game. I know HGSS, maybe I'll go that route.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 08, 2014, 10:27:10 pm
Ah ok Thanks for explaining.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on July 08, 2014, 10:45:58 pm
So, with the fancy pattern Vivillon event going on, and my two games, I managed to get both a Timid Compound Eyes event Vivillon, and a Modest Compound Eyes event Vivillon, and this pleases me
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 10, 2014, 02:59:25 am
Since restricting Baton Pass to only 3 Pokemon per team did absolutely nothing to nerf the effectiveness of full Baton Pass teams (in fact, it only made it worse), Smogon's Baton Pass clause has been updated and Baton Pass is now restricted to only 1 Pokemon per team instead of 3 (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/baton-pass-clause-mark-2.3511375/) in OU.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 10, 2014, 03:33:11 am
Since restricting Baton Pass to only 3 Pokemon per team did absolutely nothing to nerf the effectiveness of full Baton Pass teams (in fact, it only made it worse), Smogon's Baton Pass clause has been updated and Baton Pass is now restricted to only 1 Pokemon per team instead of 3 (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/baton-pass-clause-mark-2.3511375/) in OU.
RIP in peace BP.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on July 10, 2014, 02:21:16 pm
I might be making a new Trick Room team based on my old one from HeartGold (with a few changes of course, given then new tools and 'mons a couple of generations can bring forth). Expect to see my cringeworthy fantastic nicknames when I've built it up.
The Eelektross prospect I've been mulling over seems almost devilish >:)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on July 10, 2014, 02:25:16 pm
Serebii.net said:
For those of you in the UK, a new event has been announced. If you go to GAME, you will have the ability to download a Charizard, either via Nintendo Zone or through a Serial Code if asked for at the till. This event mimics the event that was in Japan earlier this year and offers a Charizard that will come with the Charizardite Y if you connect with Pokémon X or Charizardite X if you connect with Pokémon Y. It will run from July 11th to August 10th
2 events in one week. Now that's more like it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on July 10, 2014, 03:16:21 pm
I hear this is to mark the introduction of Nintendo Zone hotspots in certain GAME stores. Undoubtedly, my local one will probably not have one, so serial code it is :s
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 10, 2014, 03:29:32 pm
I'll keep the thread open in case people who haven't voted yet want to vote to qualify for TC, but the future votes don't matter towards the result.
We had 85 qualified voters with a 60% requirement to ban, meaning 51 votes needed to ban.
At the moment, Deoxys-D has 66 ban votes and Deoxys-S has 67 ban votes, so both are easily banned with at worst (assuming the remaining votes are all no ban) 78% and 79% percentage supermajorities.
Thanks for participating and/or following the suspect test.
We'll have this reflected in our showdown server and appropriate OU tournaments ASAP.
(http://www.smogon.com/dex/media/sprites/xy/deoxys-defense.gif)(http://www.smogon.com/dex/media/sprites/xy/deoxys-speed.gif) Rest in Piss
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on July 11, 2014, 03:28:57 am
I am not into piss.
I imagined Defense getting banned but I didn't think speed would actually get more ban votes.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2014, 03:42:00 am
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This thing is so versatile that it is not even funny. It is capable of running almost every other set ranging from (the list is not exhaustive) Sash hazard setter, Life Orb revenge killer, even Light Clay dual screens+rocks+taunt, or even a mix between different sets, each set able to carry its own weight (or more). There isn't even a need to go into detail on how great its 101 sets are, the fact of Deoxys-S's reliability is common sense to anyone with basic knowledge of competitive battling. Now, this also poses another unique disadvantage to the opponent. Which set does the Deoxys run? Is it the hazard setter of the opposing team? Is it going to be the lead or not? These are the issues that anyone going against a team with Deoxys-S has to deal with, which alone puts them at a big disadvantage. The person could very well feint a lead with Deoxys-S, only for him to send out something like Landorus-T on maybe a predicted Bisharp or Aegislash, and Deoxys-S could simply come in later in the game and pull of its job. Even if Deoxys-S is the lead, the issue of "what set does it freaking run?" causes another big headache anyway. For all you know, it could be a screener setting up 8 turns worth of dual screens in front of your Bisharp as you go for the Sucker Punch (paving the way for a setup sweeper to destroy at least 2-3 of your pokes), or even a Life Orb variant with Superpower for all you know. Point is, when facing Deoxys-s, it is almost impossible to know what set it is running (unless you played that fellow before), and you are just forced to blindly guess and hope for the best. Heck, Deoxys-s can’t even be counterteamed technically since there is no one pokemon that can counter all of its sets, and unless you played your opponent before, you can’t exactly predict what set is being used (unless you just want to counterteam a few players in question, which would mean you lose out more in general). As a result, more often that not, the person that is using Deoxys-S is effectively has the momentum of the game right in his/her hands.
Now, even if you successfully predict the set your opponent is using, it does not mean that Deoxys-S is not able to perform its duty. Screens and hazards can still be set (with or without some double switching depending on the situation), revenge killer variants still are able to place offensive pressure as long as they aren’t KOed. It still doesn’t change a thing for your opponent. The Deoxys is not going to lose its utility just because you might have figured it out. Barring your opponent being “unintelligent” or just plainly being Captain Obvious, the only possible change is that you wrongly predict the set and let your opponent have an easier time.
In addition of the element of surprise, as what people before me have highlighted, another potential advantage lies in the fact that it is capable of weakening what is supposed to be your check against certain threats, which makes you more prone. For instance, you might rely on Aegislash as a check to Thundurus especially if your team contains stuff like Landorus/ Gyarados, forcing Thundurus to switch out and back in on rocks (assuming you placed them), weakening it enough to prevent a sweep. Now, with your Aegislash taking a Knock Off from Deoxys-S, I highly doubt it can tank hits very well after that.
While it can be debated that since Deoxys-S can be used by anyone, it’s their fault that they didn’t run Deoxys-S. However, a pokemon that is top notch in performing multiple roles that basically eliminates competition for team supporters is something that is over-centralizing the metagame, which equates to a reduction in competitiveness anyway. Moreover, providing zero synergy in terms of defense, it is mainly gives offensive/hyper-offensive teams an unfair advantage since you can’t expect Deoxys-S to be run on Stall or most Balanced teams in the first place. I honestly don’t think that something like that should remain in the OU metagame.
Deoxys Speed in a nutshell.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on July 11, 2014, 04:07:06 am
oh well, RIP premier hazard setter. Now, let´s suspect Mega Charizard X please will we are at it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 11, 2014, 05:32:13 am
Time to rebuild my team or what's left of it should that come to pass.
And it's about time all forms of Deoxys get shafted. Speed was just unpredictable.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 11, 2014, 01:55:44 pm
Smogon: Once a great site; Now a joke among Pokemon battling.
Seriously, it is like their method of combating a Pokemon that they can't handle is to ban it instead of tackling their problem with their brainpower.
It seems like their environment breeds the worst kinds of complacency Pokemon battling and brings out the worst in Tourney-tards.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2014, 03:51:22 pm
Smogon: Once a great site; Now a joke among Pokemon battling.
Seriously, it is like their method of combating a Pokemon that they can't handle is to ban it instead of tackling their problem with their brainpower.
It seems like their environment breeds the worst kinds of complacency Pokemon battling and brings out the worst in Tourney-tards.
Let me ask you a serious question then; how do YOU handle these threats? How do you handle Blaziken, MegaGengar, MegaKangaskhan, MegaLucario, Genesect, Deoxys-D, Deoxys-S, Swagplay, Funbro, and Full Batonpass chains? Post specific examples for each.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 11, 2014, 05:44:32 pm
Challenge accepted.
I assuming full use of everything out there, yes? Including legendaries and megas and every dirty trick in the book?
If that so, then I can come up with a counter to just about every single Pokemon listed:
Blaziken is easy. A good defensive water type would shut it down before it gets anywhere. Even better if the water type has protect or is a ghost type to null the Hi-Jump Kick. Me? I tend to run a rain dance team with swift-swim Kingdra, so it would outpace Blaziken and knock it out before it becomes too much of a threat. Trick room works if I have a special team to take full advantage of it. Force-switching also works to cancel out any speed boosts. And if I am feeling dickish, put it to sleep it with a Pokemon with spore and focus sash. Also, overpowering it with legendaries works fine. And double team/ sand attack works on occasion if I want to be mean, but I do not want to rely on chance too much.
For MegaGengar, I'll send out a special wall Blissey with softboil and toxic. MegaGengar does not have too much to deal with special walls, not even psystrike. Blissey can tank many things from MegaGengar and wall MegaGengar to death via toxic and any extra damage from any attacks she can do.
MegaKangaskhan? I'll use a combination of legendaries and megas and all the pokemon and strategies I have at my disposal to pound it to death. Pokemon is a team game and one teammate should not have to pull the weight of the entire team. Putting it to sleep via spore and focus sash works and it has a benefit of opening up MegaKangaskhan to focus punches. Toxic and burn to whittle down HP works but toxic is more preferable since burn's effectiveness is reduced via seismic toss. Paralysis is also a good choice as well since it cuts the speed advantage.
MegaLucario? Like above, I'll use a combination of legendaries and megas and all the pokemon and strategies I have at my disposal to pound it to death. Earthquakes are effective, so are galewings and fire attacks. Mega Blaziken works. And burn can cripple MegaLucario. Paralysis is also a good choice. Putting it to sleep also is effective.
Genesect, Deoxys-D, and Deoxys-S? If legendaries are allowed, then I am entitled to use them as well. Genesect will get fire attacks to take advantage of the weakness and Deoxys will get stats effects. Toxic for Defense and Paralysis for Speed. And as before, since Pokemon is a team game, a combination of Pokemon works.
Swagplay? Taunt+Lum Berry is a thing. So is using pokemon that null confusion. Also, galewings/priority is also usable. Magic Bounce works. And so does a giant hammer that is the full weight of mega and legendary pokemon.
Funbro? Perish Song works, provided that Slowbro can't get away. Toxic works as well, since Funbro has no effective countermeasures. I would say Taunt, but it seems that it is no longer valid as of gen 6. Shed Shell would enable escape. Encore can also ruin the strategy.
Full Batonpass chains? Say hello to Perish Song, now with full substitute piercing! Roar and whirlwind can also pierce substitute. So does taunt. Encore works wonders.
See? I have provided generalized counters to each problematic Pokemon that seem to come up here and there, and that is just from pulling from my experiences. I know that I fail to take into account both the fact that the enemy is not a wooden dummy and the fact that I am breaking several of Smogon's precious rules in the process, but I do not recognize Smogon's rules; only Nintnedo's rules counts. And to account for the enemy being smarter than a rock would take more time to write than my job would allow for break-time.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2014, 07:30:02 pm
I assuming full use of everything out there, yes? Including legendaries and megas and every dirty trick in the book?
Anything that isnt explicitly banned
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Blaziken is easy. A good defensive water type would shut it down before it gets anywhere. Even better if the water type has protect or is a ghost type to null the Hi-Jump Kick. Me? I tend to run a rain dance team with swift-swim Kingdra, so it would outpace Blaziken and knock it out before it becomes too much of a threat. Trick room works if I have a special team to take full advantage of it. Force-switching also works to cancel out any speed boosts. And if I am feeling dickish, put it to sleep it with a Pokemon with spore and focus sash. Also, overpowering it with legendaries works fine. And double team/ sand attack works on occasion if I want to be mean, but I do not want to rely on chance too much.
1.) They switch out Blaziken for a water resist, typically Ferrothorn. Nobody is keeping Blaziken in versus a swift swimmer, let alone a water type. 2.) Opponent sends out Blaziken versus something that isnt much of a threat to it, uses Swords Dance on the predicted switch/rain dance and either whittles your team down or stalls an extra turn with protect and then Baton Passes +2 attack +2 speed to their sweeper, which now outspeeds your Kingdra.
Oh and speaking of Kingdra:
252+ Atk Blaziken High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Kingdra: 229-271 (78.6 - 93.1%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Your Kingdra is KOed on the switch in. Now what?
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For MegaGengar, I'll send out a special wall Blissey with softboil and toxic. MegaGengar does not have too much to deal with special walls, not even psystrike. Blissey can tank many things from MegaGengar and wall MegaGengar to death via toxic and any extra damage from any attacks she can do.
First of all, LOL Blissey. Second of all, how the hell are you walling MegaGengar with Toxic when hes a poison type? And lastly;
252+ SpA Mega Gengar Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 272-320 (38 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery 0 SpA Blissey Ice Beam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Mega Gengar: 54-64 (20.6 - 24.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
Blissey isnt taking on MegaGengar any time soon. Not in ubers, and CERTAINLY not in OU.
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MegaKangaskhan? I'll use a combination of legendaries and megas and all the pokemon and strategies I have at my disposal to pound it to death. Pokemon is a team game and one teammate should not have to pull the weight of the entire team. Putting it to sleep via spore and focus sash works and it has a benefit of opening up MegaKangaskhan to focus punches. Toxic and burn to whittle down HP works but toxic is more preferable since burn's effectiveness is reduced via seismic toss. Paralysis is also a good choice as well since it cuts the speed advantage.
You're essentially sacking 2 Pokemon to take down 1, which already puts you at a huge disadvantage. As soon as your opponent sees something with Spore, hes not keeping MegaKangaskhan in unless he knows he can outspeed you AND OHKO you. Focus Sash does absolutely nothing to stop Parental Bond, so if MegaKangaskhan can OHKO you with something, it WILL OHKO you with that move and no Pokemon with Focus Sash can do a thing about it. Burn can cripple MegaKangaskhan, yes, but the ONLY Pokemon viable enough to do so are Sableye and Cofagrigus, and both of them have better things to do. You're essentially being forced to run otherwise extremely niche Pokemon for the sole purpose of countering MegaKangaskhan. That is overcentralizing, and is unhealthy for a competitive metagame. Paralysis is not going to stop MegaKangaskhan from outspeeding and OHKOing you with Sucker Punch unless youre using a priority move yourself, in which case MegaKangaskhan will go for Return, Earthquake, or Crunch instead.
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MegaLucario? Like above, I'll use a combination of legendaries and megas and all the pokemon and strategies I have at my disposal to pound it to death. Earthquakes are effective, so are galewings and fire attacks. Mega Blaziken works. And burn can cripple MegaLucario. Paralysis is also a good choice. Putting it to sleep also is effective.
You're essentially using an uber to fight an uber. Burning Lucario is not a reliable counter, as Mega Lucario has an equally viable special attacking set, which shares only 4 counters with its physical set: Intimidate Gyarados, Moltres, Zapdos, and Volcarona. All 4 of these Pokemon are 2HKOed by one of MegaLucario's moves, be it physical or special, so they are VERY shaky checks at best. Trying to outspeed MegaLucario with something like, say Choice Scarf Garchomp, as they can bring MegaLucario in later to revenge kill with Extremespeed Adaptability Bullet Punch.
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Genesect, Deoxys-D, and Deoxys-S? If legendaries are allowed, then I am entitled to use them as well. Genesect will get fire attacks to take advantage of the weakness and Deoxys will get stats effects. Toxic for Defense and Paralysis for Speed. And as before, since Pokemon is a team game, a combination of Pokemon works.
Using Genesect to counter Genesect is not a valid argument as it does not address the issue of how broken it is. Deoxys-D commonly carries Magic Bounce, so Toxic is useless against it. Deoxys-S is used either as a suicide lead or as a revenge killer. Paralyzing it does not address the problem of how unpredictable it is, nor does it address the problem that it more or less renders every Pokemon that can fulfill one of its roles as outclassed (looking at Dual Screens Espeon, specifically).
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Swagplay? Taunt+Lum Berry is a thing. So is using pokemon that null confusion. Also, galewings/priority is also usable. Magic Bounce works. And so does a giant hammer that is the full weight of mega and legendary pokemon.
I dont think you've ever actually faced a Swagplay team before, or you would know that Swagplay Pokemon use Prankster to give them priority. You also did not address the fact that Swagplay is making the game more reliant on luck than on actual skill.
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Funbro? Perish Song works, provided that Slowbro can't get away. Toxic works as well, since Funbro has no effective countermeasures. I would say Taunt, but it seems that it is no longer valid as of gen 6. Shed Shell would enable escape. Encore can also ruin the strategy.
..Nor have you faced a Funbro to know how its used. Besides that, you waste your shed shell and then Funbro comes back in later.
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Full Batonpass chains? Say hello to Perish Song, now with full substitute piercing! Roar and whirlwind can also pierce substitute. So does taunt. Encore works wonders.
Espeon used Baton Pass! Go, Mr. Mime! ??? used Perish Song! Mr. Mime's Soundproof blocked the effects of Perish Song
Mr. Mime used Baton Pass! Go, Espeon! ??? used Roar/Whirlwind/Taunt/Encore! Espeon's Magic Bounce deflected the Roar/Whirlwind/Taunt/Encore!
I still dont see any valid counters listed in your responses, so lets try this again. This time, I want you to list specific Pokemon with movesets
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Alpaca-San on July 11, 2014, 07:52:03 pm
I love how a lot of people who disagree with smogon house rules tend to bring up really narrow and specific counters (that usually don't even functionally work to show their unfamiliarity with battling) to prove "they can be dealt with" while being totally unaware of the issue of metagame over-centralization: The real big reason these kinds of pokemon are banned.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 11, 2014, 08:08:44 pm
I still dont see any valid counters listed in your responses, so lets try this again. This time, I want you to list specific Pokemon with movesets
Nah, I have a better idea:
Lets see you do it first, since you are so smart.
If you don't, then I will not waste anymore time on this useless endeavor. Besides, I did mention that for the listed challenges I explicitly did not take into account human intelligence, for trying to do so is an exercise in futility.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2014, 08:40:41 pm
You still don't understand why these Pokemon were banned, do you? To help you understand better why what you ask is impossible, i am going to copypaste, word for word from Smogon, the exact reasons WHY the following Pokemon were banned:
Spoiler: Mega Gengar(click to see content)
Mega Gengar is not a Pokemon that will easily sweep teams, in spite of its 170 Base Special Attack and 130 Base Speed (enough to outspeed almost every unboosted Pokemon), and its offensive prowess is not the sole reason for its quickbanning. It is a Pokemon that allows teams to, with near 100% probability, remove specific counters or threats and open the way for an easy victory. This capability is especially pronounced against defensive teams, and to some extent any kind of team relying on slow Pokemons, to the point that the Council believes that Mega Gengar is stifling the development of defensive teams overall. Note, we don't necessarily mean just stall teams (though these are affected significantly), but defensive teams in general. This overall detriment to defensive teams (remember, not just stall) is considered a pronounced negative for the metagame's development (hence why we're not waiting on PokeBank to ban it).
Shadow Tag allows Mega Gengar to trap and kill whatever Pokemon you want it to eliminate, generally the ones that give your team trouble or the ones that stop your sweeper. Defensively, Mega Gengar can easily switch in with its useful resistances and immunities to common types, and offensively, its high Speed and Special Attack stats and access to STAB Shadow Ball with Focus Blast as coverage allows it at least neutrally damage the entire metagame. In addition to its offensive and defensive prowess, Gengar has very useful support moves, such as Will-O-Wisp, Taunt, Destiny Bond, Hypnosis, and when PokeBank is legal, Perish Song. These moves give Gengar additional utility against both offensive (Will-O-Wisp and Destiny Bond) and defensive (Perish Song) teams, and Shadow Tag is the tool that allows Gengar to remove nearly all defensive threats or counters or checks with what the Council has determined is too high a probability, note that, while some pokemon can handle Mega-Gengar in a one-vs-one scenario, it has no true counters due to the nature of Shadow Tag (aka: switching in your counter), and that fact alone is the main reason as to why we thought it deserved to be banned.
While it's true that Shadow Tag will not be in effect the turn Gengar mega-evolves, which allows the other player to send in a counter or a Pursuiter, Mega Gengar can still Substitute in the same turn it mega-evolves, put opponents to sleep with Hypnosis, or Destiny Bond, and then switch out without the risk of being Pursuited (or in Destiny Bond's case, at least remove the Pursuiter.)
Mega Gengar also has a huge movepool. Depending on what its team needs, it can be a hard hitter to destroy something that could give the team trouble (for example, it can kill fairies with Sludge Bomb, kill Latios or Latias with Shadow Ball, and kill bulky waters with Thunderbolt, etc), burn physical attackers with Will-o-Wisp (destroying a lot of Pursuiters as well), put to sleep any opponent it wants, use a Perish trap combination, Destiny Bond sweepers, Toxic walls, or recover HP with pain split. While we do recognize that Mega Gengar obviously cannot do all of this in the same set, we are mentioning all of what Mega Gengar can do offensively, defensively, and supportively to emphasize that those tools, along with Shadow Tag, create a Pokemon with the potential to be far too effective of a support Pokemon.
Though we aren't directly using the 4th generation suspect characteristics anymore, they still provide a reliable framework to assess the situation. Consider the Support Characteristic:
Support Characteristic A Pokemon is uber if, in common battle conditions, it can consistently set up a situation in which it makes it substantially easier for other Pokemon to sweep.
Mega Gengar is the perfect example of this. It is not broken solely because of its offensive stats. It is broken because the combination of Shadow Tag, its great defensive typing, its great offensive stats, and its huge movepool allows you to, with almost absolute certainty, remove one or multiple checks to your team with Mega Gengar. We feel that this near 100% probability against all Pokemon (except Ghost-types) is uncompetitive, as Pokemon battles are (and for the most part, should be) a 2-way street in terms of decisions; this Pokemon makes the battle a 1-way street against nearly all Pokemon.
Spoiler: Mega Kangaskhan(click to see content)
After two weeks of community and council deliberation, taking into account a public thread, a poll, and a Policy Review topic, the OU Council has come to the conclusion that Kangaskhanite is overpowered and, as such, will be quickbanned from OU. Remember, a quickban is considered an extension of the initial banlist, meaning we are implying that Kangaskhanite deserved to be on the initial banlist and is considered that overwhelmingly strong.
As we all know, Kangaskhan received a huge buff in X/Y with its Mega Stone. Its attack got pumped to a respectable base 125, its defenses were also improved, and its speed reached the above-average 100 base tier. The most valuable improvement it received though, was its new ability: Parental Bond. It allows the Pokémon to attack twice, with the second attack being half as powerful as the first one. Basically, Parental Bond acts like a free Choice Band boost, but without locking the user into one single attack. Also, Mega-Kangaskhan's new ability works wonderfully with attacks such as Power Up Punch (allowing Mega Kangaskhan to usually get 2 Attack boosts) and Seismic-Toss (which always inflicts a damage of 200 Hit Points to the opponent). Not to mention the ability to hit the opponent through their Substitute. Couple the above mentioned points with a close to perfect physical movepool (with access to coverage moves such as Fire Punch, Crunch and Earthquake) and priority in the form of Sucker Punch, and you have a Pokémon that's nearly impossible to counter or even revenge kill.
Though we aren't directly using the 4th generation suspect characteristics anymore, they still provide a reliable framework to assess the situation. Let's take a look at the Offensive Characteristic:
Offensive Characteristic A Pokémon is uber if, in common battle conditions, it is capable of sweeping through a significant portion of teams in the metagame with little effort.
Actual battle experience has quickly proved that Mega Kangaskhan easily fulfills the Offensive Characteristic. Mega Kangaskhan's unhealthy effects on the metagame can be summed up in 3 points:
1) The raw power of its attacks is too much for the OU tier A few damage calculations show how Mega Kanga can 1-2HKO even premier physical walls like Hippowdown and Skarmory after a singe Power Up Punch (which, unlike Swords Dance, can't be taunted):
Relevant Calculations: +2 252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Hippowdon: 420-495 (100 - 117.85%) -- guaranteed OHKO +2 252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 232+ Def Skarmory: 303-357 (90.7 - 106.8%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO +2 252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 328-387 (83.24 - 98.22%) -- 68.75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
Add onto that that Mega Kanga is fast enough to outspeed every defensive Pokémon in the game so that it can land the decisive hit before they can even attempt at statusing it.
With a virtual base Attack of 213, factoring in Parental Bond, the only Pokémon that can afford to switch into this monster with relative ease are: Cofagrigus, Sableye and a very healthy Gourgeist. Everything else is immediately obliterated by Mega Kanga's attacks. Other gimmick strategies to stop it are Rocky Helmet/Rough Skin (or Iron Barbs) users like bulky Garchomp and Ferrothorn, that use Mega Kanga's ability to hit twice against it;
2) Mega-Kangaskhan is nearly impossible to revenge kill Sucker Punch at +2 kills pretty much every wanna-be revenge killer. Pokémon like the Lati twins, the genies, Focus Sash Alakazam and even Genesect (with the X/Y Steel nerf) are all OHKO'd before they can even scratch Mega Kanga. Furthermore, Mega Kanga's 105/100/100 defences are nothing to laugh at, and even when uninvested, they give Mega Kanga excellent survivability. Basically, Mega Kangaskhan's offensive checks are restricted to strong and fast Fighting types such as Terrakion and Mega Lucario;
3) Mega-Kangaskhan limits team building Like the 5th Generation Excadrill, Mega-Kanga severely limits team bulding, forcing the player to run dedicated, obscure Pokémon (with the exception of Sableye) to avoid getting swept by it. And, in the case of Rocky Helmet/Rough Skin users, the player is usually just trading their check in order to have Mega-Kangaskhan kill itself through passive damage.
The above points don't address a less common but not less threatening set Mega-Kangaskhan is capable of running:
With this set, Mega Kanga can stay around for a longer time, while simultaneously supporting its team mates with Wish passing and 2HKO'ing everything with less than 401 HP.
In conclusion, with a combination of raw power, bulk, above average Speed, ability to hit through Substitute and Focus Sash, and excellent movepool, the OU Council considers Mega Kangaskhan's presence in OU unhealthy for the development of the metagame, and for this reason, Mega-Kangaskhan will been banned to Ubers with immediate effects.
Spoiler: Deoxys-D(click to see content)
Deoxys-D is incredibly unhealthy for the meta as it completely gets rid of the risk / reward nature of spikestacking and instead causes spikestacking to be an incredibly easy task, which is unhealthy because it punishes the opposing team simply for switching, which is usually meant to be another risk / reward concept, but the presence of a large amount of potential hazards makes switching a reward for the opposing team, regardless of whether the switch was a "smart switch" or a "switch that obtains momentum", and unless that Pokemon has Magic Guard (which should not be an argument), that team is punished for their "good play". Now SR is usually prevalent in any game and other Spikes setters have to utilize that risk / reward to setup on forced switches and the like. However, Deoxys-D's bulk and ability to hold Mental Herb due to not requiring a Focus Sash unlike other hazard leads means that conventional methods of dealing with hazard leads are basically irrelevant. It even has the movepool to hinder "normal" responses to it such as Bisharp and Aegislash. Not to mention that when playing against the sort of offensive teams that Deoxys-D is present on, one barely has chances to remove hazards due to the constant offensive pressure being applied, and when the Defog does happen (say Latios is out on Keldeo), you're either facing down a +2 Bisharp or your Keldeo stays in and burns you with Scald. Obviously these are specialised arguments but the point is that the effects Deoxys-D has on the metagame are unhealthy.
Spoiler: Deoxys-S(click to see content)
Deoxys-S, like almost everyone already said, is extremely unpredictable as it is can run a multitude of sets that are really threatening for offensive teams like Hazards lead, Life Orb Cleaner and Dual Screens not counting other extremely effective sets like the Rain dance and Stealth Rock+3 Attacks set. It has an enormous movepool and its ridicolous speed (it outspeeds even ScarfChomp and every DD sweeper) lets it do anything it wants well and it is almost guaranteed that Stealth Rock will go up. Its myriad of coverage moves (BoltBeam, Knock Off, Psycho Boost, Superpower, Fire Punch, Low Kick, and even Grass Knot) lets it revenge kill almost anything and by using more obscure moves like Substitute and Extremespeed it can also get past some of its strongest checks like Bisharp e Thundurus. Every set it runs forces multiple 50/50 for example, Taunt or Hazard (or screen) when using Hazards Lead or Screens set and Pursuit/Sucker when against Bisharp that makes it tricky and frustrating to deal with. I have had no problems with it while using stall but it threatens offense (and even balance) so much (you are kinda forced to run a check like Thundurus that relies on parahax not to die in the process) it deserves to be banned.
Spoiler: Blaziken/Mega Blaziken(click to see content)
Blaziken is simply a monster sweeper. Its power is unparalleled, being virtually impossible to counter or even check if the player lacks a Talonflame or Azumarill on his or her offensive team. Defensive teams can opt for Slowbro, defensive Gyrados, or in PokéBank Jellicent, but these Pokemon just are not cut out for any other team in this metagame. With the addition of Baton Pass to its movepool and thus the ability to passed the boost it gains from Swords Dance and Speed Boost, it can pass to a teammate that could handle it.
Spoiler: Swagger(click to see content)
Prankster Swagger itself can be abused in so many ways, usually in the form of Thunder Wave or Substitute, but there are more possibilities than that, such as Thundurus-I using it to grab a free Nasty Plot out of nowhere when it otherwise shouldn't have, Whimsicott can start the most annoying SubSeed chain in existance that even Grass-types have difficulty stopping, and of course Ditto. And it's not like Prankster Swagger itself can be stopped by just one Pokemon; as I have mentioned prior, Chansey, Xatu, and Gliscor can be dealt with in some manner, and even some seemingly hard stops such as Sylveon and Own Tempo Avalugg can be adjusted in a relatively quick snap like Flash Cannon Klefki, Gothitelle, or perhaps Destiny Bond Mega Banette. Prankster Swagger can adapt to the meta much more easily than the meta can adapt to it, which is already saying quite a lot for a strategy that primarily relies on random possibilities to win.
Steel-loosing its resistance to Dark has a lot to do with this. Defensive Steel-types who would have otherwise could dealt with Foul Play last gneration now fall victim to it. Skarmory without Brave Bird is a good example. Getting twice the damage on the premeir defensive typing compared to last gen is a pretty big buff. Klefki isn't the only Prankster user introduced. Thundurus-I last gen was around for a comparatively small amount of time to everything else because it was banned. Both of them have good defensive typings and decent bulk to hold a Substitute against most targets or if chance is against them, still survive the attack that from the pokemon that broke through. This is unlike a lot of the other Prankster users last gen (sableye, liepard, murkrow, purloin).
The argument isn't that Swagger or SwagPlay are broken or overcentralizing. The argument is that they're uncompetitive and unhealthy for the metagame. By nature, these strategies inherently introduce way more luck into battles. Some anti-ban advocates try to counter this point by saying something like "Using Stone Edge introduces more luck into battles. Why don't we ban Stone Edge?" However, it's completely your choice whether or not to use Stone Edge; you cannot choose whether or not you fight a team on the ladder that, fundamentally, tries to hax its way to victory to an extent.
Spoiler: Mega Lucario(click to see content)
Mega-Lucario is so unpredictable - nothing can safely switch into it. When you see a Lucario in the team preview, you have to immediately try to work out if it is a Special or Physical attacker.
If it is special, then it will use moves like Vacuum Wave, Aura Sphere, Dragon Pulse, Dark Pulse, Shadow Ball, or Flash Cannon. It also has access to Nasty Plot.
If it is physical, then it might have moves like Close Combat, Bullet Punch, Extreme Speed, Crunch, Earthquake, or Stone Edge. It also has access to Swords Dance.
As can obviously be seen here, even once you work out whether it is Special or Physical, you still won't know exactly what moves it has, since it has access to so many good ones. Most teams would end up losing 1 or 2 Pokemon to it just to work out its move set, as nothing can safely switch into it.
Not only this, but because it can have both Nasty Plot and Swords Dance, then whenever it switches in, you will probably have to switch Pokemon, which allows Lucario to get a free boost to either its Special or Physical attack, depending on which set it is running.
All of this combined with Mega-Lucario's massive Attack stat (base 145) and boosted Speed (base 112) pretty much spelled the doom for Mega Lucario in OU. Not only did it get the stat boosts, but its new ability, Adaptability, means that with STAB Bullet Punch and Vacuum Wave are 80 base power, and Close Combat is 240 base power.
There are just so few ways to handle it, and many of them are totally destroyed by the other set than the one they are meant to check. Let's talk Nasty Plot, which is pretty much it's ~best~ set. There's Aegislash, Talonflame (revenge kills), Thundurus-I (twaves), Assault Vest Conkeldurr, Zapdos, a few Choice Scarfers i guess...and then what else exactly? Swords Dance, on the other hand, fucks Zapdos and av Conk if it runs that. You never know which set Mega Lucario is running it is until it's too late.
so, Mega Luc gets priority, so it's not easy to revenge kill. it has ridiculously powerful adaptability-boosted stab moves that power through resists, and twin offenses stats with boosting moves to match, and a pretty good typing that grants it a decent amount of setup opportunities. not to mention, it can hit hard mid-game instead of JUST sweeping late-game. mega luc is really, really difficult to even check, and is really just way too powerful for ou.
Spoiler: Genesect(click to see content)
Despite not having STAB, Download-boosted Extremespeed is really fucking strong, and considering that most people are trying to make sure that it gets an Attack boost with their extra EV's, it's pretty common to get wrecked by it. It's stupidly simple for it to just come in and spam U-turn, do respectable damage, and wear the fuck out of the opposing team with little effort. The only real mitigating factor with Genesect is that, often, it gets worn down faster than you do, which makes it manageable-ish. And then there's the fact that it has viable sweeping sets that are viable in Rock Polish (meh) and Shift Gear (more threatening imo). It does literally have like 6 equally viable sets: Special Scarf, Physical Scarf, Band, Expert Belt, Rock Polish, and Shift Gear, so it's the most broken of the three imo, as there's really no way of stopping it from doing its job of getting momentum. A team can be stacked with a bunch of different Lucario checks and still be fairly viable while stopping that, and Deoxys is handled if you can get off a Defog (Mandibuzz = Life), but Genesect is unstoppable and has no obvious flaws besides the Fire-weakness, since it's not even that frail for OU at 71/95/95.
Genesect can basically either gain a huge amount of momentum once it obtains an Atk boost from Download and U-Turns out of it's usual checks, or flat out sweep single handedly with it's wider than average coverage after a SAtk boost. It requires little to no support courtesy of Download itself, and lays waste to any and all teams unprepared for it's onslaughts.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 11, 2014, 08:55:53 pm
Look, all they do is complain and whine and ban things.
I do not care for why things are banned, I only care about strategies that helps me win in the Wi-fi battles.
In case you have not noticed, I do not go onto Poke-showdown. I only do Wi-fi battles on my 3DS and to be quite frank, they do not give a shit about Smogon's rules. Why I do not do Smogon's rules? Because quite honestly, expecting that the enemy will honor those rules is folly.
So, instead of banning things, maybe they should help come up with new strategies to beat the opposition...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on July 11, 2014, 09:01:37 pm
Based on your last post, you basically play ubers.
Then perhaps you should be excited to know that Moody and Swagger are considered broken even by Ubers standards, yes?
Yes.. Thats right, stuff that is Banned from a Banlist. That's when you know for certain that something is broken.
No, my last post means that I am no longer in the mood to discuss this topic at all at the moment.
Drop the subject and move on, before we all get a headache.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2014, 09:20:45 pm
Because you couldn't come up with a counterargument to convince us that Blaziken, Mega Gengar, Mega Kangaskhan, Mega Lucario, Genesect, Deoxys-S, Deoxys-D, and Swagger should NOT be banned?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on July 11, 2014, 09:25:51 pm
For future reference I suggest wording HA/Speed Boost Blaziken/Blazikenite because I keep thinking Blaziken by itself received some sort of buff with Blaze as its Ability that makes it steamroll everything.
Just saying.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 11, 2014, 09:35:39 pm
The implication is that Blaziken will always be running Speed Boost, just like how Durant never runs Truant. You'll always be using the comparatively better available ability unless the Pokemon has more than one ability thats actually good.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on July 11, 2014, 10:36:10 pm
I feel that Deoxys-D was pretty manageable to an extent but that´s just me. Deoxys-S was pretty unpredictable to the point you won´t know what to do to deal with that, worthy ban right there.
Looking forward to mega charizard X and Aegislash suspects in OU. Seriously, I can´t have fun in OU without worrying about this guys.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 12, 2014, 01:50:49 am
I dunno about you but I had fun exploiting battle subway AI with entraining Truant on people.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 19, 2014, 01:24:24 pm
I can't believe nobody pointed out that the Season 5 Special Rating Battles are now allowing every Pokemon in existence (http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/information/eba31c29-dfee-4e44-8cd6-a79360359ab1) save for legendaries, as well as any legit moves that could previously be learned by any means outside of hacking (ie: move tutors, event moves, etc etc). The downside? No held items! Also they're all in Single battle format, 6 on 6. So basically think RBY, but with abilities. In other words, like every local tournament I've ever been involved with.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on July 25, 2014, 12:43:12 pm
Posting for the chatlog, not the fight (for starters, I never knew what Diancie's ability was):
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-144945526
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 02, 2014, 09:56:30 pm
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 02, 2014, 10:23:31 pm
Goddammit Smogon, stop banning everything I like using!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on August 02, 2014, 10:36:08 pm
Good riddance.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 02, 2014, 10:53:02 pm
It's seriously not that hard to get around Aegislash! Here, let me list a few ways I've done it:
- Taunt it so that it's stuck in its Blade Forme. Or Encore it after a King's Shield so that you can take the time to setup on it while it's sitting around being useless or switching out. - Trick a Choice Scarf onto it since most of 'em are slow as fuck, so they get locked into one move but probably won't outrun you unless they lock into Shadow Sneak or something. - Don't fucking use a contact physical move. There is no reason to ever use a physical move against the dude ever. - The only way to defeat a sword is to BURN IT. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi7cqseIbwo) It cripples the rare physical sets, but also prevents Aegislash in general from stalling you out.
I dunno, Aegislash isn't really that big of a deal for me when I run into it.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on August 02, 2014, 10:57:36 pm
Why do people think Aegislash is so broken? It is easy to play around, with most plays being very predictable.. Dammit Smogon, the banhammer didn't have THAT much dust you needed to Knock Off (u c wut i did thar? c:)
But seriously, it dies in most cases to any normally effective hit by just existing. Shield form can't hurt you too much unless you aren't playing well, and blade form is frail. Yes, it's Deoxys-A and Deoxys-D at once, but it doesn't have the same benefits as either one. Honestly the last time an Aegislash did more than one KO against me was when I did a monofairy team, which couldn't touch it because lolsteel
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on August 03, 2014, 01:16:24 am
People are already wanting Mega Mawile, M-garde, M-herro, Mzardx, and thunderus, and even some wanting Talonflame it never ends.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 03, 2014, 06:26:53 am
at the rate they're going they might as well just ban every Mega evolution except for Mega Medicham because lol
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 03, 2014, 06:40:04 am
#BanHoundoomite
Time to fix my team again, AGAIN.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on August 03, 2014, 06:48:28 am
Guys there is an mfg skype pokemon chat to arrange battles and stuff and its kinda ded, anyone wanna join in?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on August 03, 2014, 04:44:38 pm
Poor Mawile, going from rags to riches to forced exile.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 06, 2014, 08:28:36 pm
Why is Wish Chansey allowed again?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on August 06, 2014, 08:43:15 pm
Because it's clearly not broken like MegaWile is.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on August 06, 2014, 11:12:23 pm
They should code it into Showdown that if Chansey has Wish, it should force Chansey's IV's to be limited to what was allowed in Emerald (IIRC, I don't think it was possible for her to have the right nature with perfect IV's, but it's been a while since I looked at Emerald's IV Spread table, so...). I mean, if you choose a Hidden Power, it adjusts the IV's to match, so I imagine it's feasible.
Also because most players I fight are idiots, I just give Rotom-W a Choice Scarf, put it against something it can threaten, watch as the opponent chickens out and picks Chansey, then Trick the Scarf onto her on the switch. Then if I'm feeling really evil, I swap in the Wobbuffet and just waste time until Chansey ends up Struggling itself to death, or I Counter all the Seismic Tosses if that's what she locked into.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 06, 2014, 11:18:15 pm
Technically it still is possible to have a flawless set with a nature, low probability and all. I'm just surprised in Gen 6 Wish Chansey is still considered legit, unless ORAS has something to give.
And it sure is taking a while to snipe Mega Charizard X and we're at Mawile already. Nowadays I barely follow Singles and just go on VGC doubles.
Funny thing is in one of my replays my Rotom-W attempted Trick on my opponent's Venusaur, only o have it fail due to the Mega Stone despite my opponent using it on Kangaskhan. Will upload a few sets soon.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 07, 2014, 01:36:17 am
Welp
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on August 07, 2014, 01:46:03 am
Yes, ban everything!! Is for the greater good!!
I agree actually. Ban this broken double jawhead.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 07, 2014, 01:56:17 am
And it sure is taking a while to snipe Mega Charizard X and we're at Mawile already.
They're petitioning Mega Charizard X to move down from S to A+ rank. It seems likely, and if it does, it'll be safe from a ban (Pokemon need to be S rank in order to be eligible for a suspect test last time I checked Smogon's policies).
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on August 10, 2014, 05:16:56 am
The way I see it, they're eventually going to ban all megas. The only thing that can counter some megas is another mega, and banning one mega will chain into others. Banning Aegislash? Mistake. Banning Mawile? Counter was Aegislash. Birdspam returns, ban Talonflame? No. Return Aegislash. Yay logic
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Fisher King on August 10, 2014, 08:31:12 am
Of course many megas would cause a domino effect and this is one of the reasons I dislike the mega evolution idea (cheap way of not giving explanation of new possible normal evolutions). But I disagree that all ban megas will get banned, some are actually pretty balanced in standard conditions and not overpowering like mega char X and mawile (like having notorious checks and some being relatively slow).
Just in case... no, I havent been poisoned by smogonites or whatever.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 11, 2014, 10:57:23 pm
Aside from Mega Mawile, the really big four Megas to watch out for are Mega Heracross, Mega Gardevoir, Mega Medicham, and Mega Pinsir, all four of which have risen in use and viability thanks to Aegislash being banned (and the former 3 completely rape stall teams now that they're not forced to run a coverage move for Aegislash).
Some people have resorted to using Doublade on stall just to check them.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 13, 2014, 05:39:42 pm
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In The Games Department
Pokémon X & Y - Special Battle Season 6
As announced several months ago, Pokémon X & Y's Special Battle in Season 6 of the Rating Battles is to run a Double Battle where the most used Pokémon of Seasons 1 to 4 and half of Season 5 are banned. All other rules are standard Double Battle rules. Today, the ban list has been revealed. During Season 6, which runs from September 8th, you will not be able to use the following Pokémon: Charizard, Gengar, Kangaskhan, Gyarados, Tyranitar, Mawile, Salamence, Garchomp, Togekiss, Rotom, Cresselia, Amoonguss, Thundurus, Landorus, Greninja, Talonflame, Meowstic, Aegislash or Sylveon. This is only during the Special Battle. we'll bring more on this as it comes
Poor Aegislash can't catch a break, lol.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 13, 2014, 05:45:48 pm
Wait why Sylveon?
It's Hyper Voice isn't it?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 13, 2014, 05:53:14 pm
Maybe Nintendo/Gamefreak finally grasped the concept of OU and UU? :P
EDIT: While not technically X&Y related, I've been resetting my White cart and tried my hand at RNGing the Legendaries there. So far successfully RNG'ed myself a Jolly 31/31/31/08/31/31 Terrakion, a Lonely 31/31/31/31/31/31 Zekrom, and a Mild 31/31/31/31/31/31 Kyurem (using the shitty IV Zekrom from my previous save to force it into Black Kyurem).
Considering that I enjoyed playing through White again I might reset again after I've gotten everything else that what I wanted, I guess if anyone wants me to RNG any of the Legendaries there I can do that in my spare time. I also have Black2/White2 Tutor access so if you want anything specific moves from there that's an option as well. Won't be able to RNG shinies, unfortunately, since that requires RNG'ing for your Trainer & Secret IDs, which are a pain to verify now that Pokecheck is gone.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 16, 2014, 08:43:02 pm
Anyone watching Worlds? Team UK repping
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 16, 2014, 11:36:10 pm
Missed a bunch but will watch the finals.
There was a Machamp on board in VGC. Sweet.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 16, 2014, 11:37:35 pm
Please tell me you watch the Patchirisu match.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 16, 2014, 11:50:49 pm
Is it the Volt Absorb with Follow Me/Super Fang one? If so, about time!
And yeah I missed it =[ Did that team at least got a win?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 17, 2014, 12:12:51 am
It won 2-0 and took out a Mega Khangaskan and a Garchomp
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on August 17, 2014, 05:56:19 am
You know, there is a Patchirisu inside one of the winning teams that will face off in the finals tomorrow.
That seemed to be a crowd favorite. Who knows. If the team wins, then that will run in defiance to prior assumptions on the usefulness of Patchirisu.
I really wish Nintendo would release a Patchirisu plushie in memory of the team with the Patchirisu.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2014, 06:25:23 am
The person with the Pachirisu team is veteran Korean player Sejun Park, better known as the guy who used Magmar in last year's Worlds.
Follow Me/Super Fang/Nuzzle/Protect with Volt Absorb. I saw this coming but amazing that it's finally in a tournament.
Please Nintendo distribute this Pachi.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 17, 2014, 09:20:41 am
Pachirisu viable in tournament play that isnt the NU tier?
I never thought I'd see the day, even in Doubles/VGC.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 17, 2014, 02:35:32 pm
Where were you when a god was slain?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2014, 02:39:38 pm
That Rainbow Road battlefield though.
There's also Fan-Rotom spotted in Worlds. That place is just surprising.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2014, 10:00:32 pm
VGC finals are starting now.
www.twitch.tv/pokemon
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Errdor on August 17, 2014, 10:09:02 pm
That Kanto champion theme...
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2014, 10:28:34 pm
Double 4-0, USA wins Seniors. Trick Room Gengar and missed Will-o-Wisps made the difference here.
Masters are next.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 17, 2014, 10:39:39 pm
Ahh yiss Patchirisu hype.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Errdor on August 17, 2014, 11:07:51 pm
There it goes, Se Jun Park at it again!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 17, 2014, 11:10:23 pm
And Se Jun Park take it Patchirisu is World Champion.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Kirishima on August 17, 2014, 11:14:33 pm
Squirrel secret top tier. Screw your Megas.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 17, 2014, 11:17:40 pm
That one lone Mega Lucario got murked
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: DNZRX768 on August 18, 2014, 05:22:43 am
Seemed that Patchirisu has became mega-popular ever since that smashing victory in the VGC!
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 18, 2014, 11:56:33 am
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 18, 2014, 03:55:22 pm
Don't know which of our topics to post it in, seeing as it's to do with Pokémon in general, but it would appear that The Pokémon Company is going to announce a new project on August 26th (http://bulbanews.bulbagarden.net/wiki/The_Pokémon_Company_to_announce_a_new_project_Aug._26).
I'm really hoping it's a sequel to XD: Gale of Darkness.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 20, 2014, 09:41:40 pm
For those who play in the lower tiers, Yanmega and Zoroark have been officially banned from RU. (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/ru-stage-3-suspect-voting.3514983/page-5)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 22, 2014, 07:41:23 pm
I will Mega-Evolve my foot up Smogon's ass if thy don't stop banning megas.
Same here. This is getting awkward.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 23, 2014, 03:20:25 am
[avatar]http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq343/DNZ_3/MUGEN%20works/PikachuRuns.gif[/avatar] I get a bad feeling that they might be banning Mega Abomasnow next
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: 1Ultima on August 23, 2014, 10:36:18 am
[avatar]http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq343/DNZ_3/MUGEN%20works/PikachuRuns.gif[/avatar] They might as well just ban all Megas. It'll save them time when ORAS and the inevitable Z comes out.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 23, 2014, 10:01:25 pm
Remember when Smogon tried to nerf full Baton Pass teams by limiting it to only three Pokemon? And then they found out that Baton Pass teams were still broken after that, so they then limited it to only one Pokemon? Well...
A set up that requires 8 turns killing it LOL made my day.
though not shown in the vid, 4 out of the 6 Pokemon on Denisss's team all had Taunt, and those Pokemon who can break apart his team are either trapped and manhandled by Gothitelle (Amoongus), rendered useless by Magic Bounce and/or (faster) Prankster Taunt (Skarmory, Sableye), or outspeed and KOed by Talonflame.
In other words, another algorithm based team just like the last two Baton Pass teams that called for a nerf.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 24, 2014, 12:10:13 pm
Is this really the best way to play the game? All these bans are (mostly) ridiculous
Nobody said you had to use Pokémon Showdown. I know I don't.
I know that, I'm completely aware of that. I was merely referring to Smogon's metagame being what many deem proper competitive (although yeah I agree that VGC format trumps it)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on August 28, 2014, 02:00:57 am
No, GarchompMatt just likes to trumpet his dislike of Smogon and repeatedly announce how he doesn't use it. Also will be interesting to see all the Pokémon that can be obtained "legally" now. And because of people like me who have flash carts for data analysis, I could even feasibly put a Pokémon Red Charizard onto Pokémon X or Y now
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on August 28, 2014, 02:14:59 am
The only reason I can even think of for his h8 is that its treated as the default meta game for 6v6 so when you wanna challenge passerbys maybe 50% of the time they will use smogon rules and quit when you use spore on more than one pokemon, however this evens out with people using mewtwo,xearnes,zygarde, and other legendary mons the other 50% of the time. Meanwhile nobody here talks about Pokemon Online.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: GarchompMatt on August 28, 2014, 11:30:28 am
I never said I dislike Smogon, nor did I say I like it. I don't use Pokémon Showdown because I can't be bothered to; it's as simple as that.
I'm just sick of seeing copy+paste Smogon teams on WiFi, and if I beat their 'mon that shouldn't be beaten, they disconnect.
Because no one uses it. Everyone prefers Showdown.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on August 28, 2014, 06:56:44 pm
On the contrary, PO is still used. People just don't talk about it much since Showdown is officially supported by Smogon now (they used to support PO until they switched over)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Errdor on August 31, 2014, 11:34:20 pm
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-158749272
My first win and my first time playing showdown. (thisisass is my ID)
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: The Answer on September 01, 2014, 04:02:09 am
double edge slyveon, counter xzard, and gyro ball weezing all my wats anyway you really shouldn't have switched into hawlucha cause it has no bulk, shuckle probs is a better lead with sticky web. liligant wasn't useful in that battle. i won't tell you to outright remove mons because who am I to tell you how to play but you gotta rework the sets for them. Just keep at it and get your rank to 1800s then everyone will listen to you because you're pro mlg.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 02, 2014, 07:46:43 pm
(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/392.png): OU ↓↓ UU
Drewski's not gonna be happy.
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(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/707.png): OU ↓↓ UU (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/448.png)(http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/icon/448-m.png): OU ↓↓ UU
Wait why ain't people using Klefki in doubles anymore? Or Mega Luke?
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 08, 2014, 08:20:29 pm
Klefki and MegaLuke are still used (over the past 3 months they had 2.492% and 2.478% usage, which ranks them at #64 and #65 respectively), they just didn't make the OU cutoff of 3.41% (the lowest that made the cutoff was Thundurus-T at #54). Both of them are still B rank according to the Doubles Viability Rankings (http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/doubles-viability-rankings-votes.3496306/), so its not like they're completely useless.
I expect MegaLuke to be banned from Doubles UU to Doubles BL anyway :p
EDIT: Nothing official yet, but for those who care about tier other than Singles OU:
Smeargle and Geomancy are being called for suspect tests in Singles UU.
Dialga is being called for a suspect test to move down to Doubles OU.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on September 11, 2014, 12:54:26 am
If Dialga gets moved to UU I will find ways to use it, as it is one of my favorite Pokémon. Also interested in possible Geomancy ban in UU because that would break DeniSsSs or whatever's baton pass hax
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 11, 2014, 04:50:19 pm
Dialga's not moving down to DUU.
Doubles has its own tiers separate from Singles, so even if Dialga does move down to DOU, its still going to remain Uber in Singles.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on September 18, 2014, 06:59:58 am
Smeargle, Togekiss, and Victini have been banned from UU, and are now BL.
Geomancy has now been banned from UU.
Smeargle is now undergoing a suspect test to see if it can be allowed back into UU now that Geomancy is banned.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Ricepigeon on November 18, 2014, 06:56:52 pm
A bit late with ORAS being released in 3 days, but Smogon's suspect test of Shadow Tag in ubers is over:
Initially, the results of the voting caused Smogon to announce that Shadow Tag would be banned from Ubers effective immediately, However, after some controversy arose among the staff as to how the voting was handled, this decision was ultimately overturned.
The following statement was also issued by Smogon's staff:
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Earlier today a suspect test for Ubers concluded. The way the results were interpreted were... controversial to say the least, leading to me overturning the ruling. Just to get this out of the way,
Mega Gengar will not be banned from ubers, and neither will Shadow Tag, just as the community voted.
We are instituting new policies to ensure new tier leaders understand what is expected from them. I apologize to anyone who felt they didn't get a say in this suspect test, and I hope it is some consolation that the error was corrected quickly. We'll try to prevent anything like this from happening again.
I think it's the consensus of the Smogon Ubers community that the Uber suspect tests were a bad idea, and we will not be doing them anymore.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on November 19, 2014, 02:07:42 am
To me the concept of banning something from the banlist is stupid. I really think Smogon just needs to take a step back and give the tier system a fresh start, because NU is imbalanced, OU is cookie-cutter, Ubers is ridiculous, and other than that, just meh in general. And with MegaMence and CroBro becoming things in three days, the metagame is going to get ridiculous. Especially considering how much we already know of how broken they are. Pokémon as a whole is just going very Dragon Ball Z with everything, and I'm not sure if I care for it. Instead of doing anything fresh, they just keep making everything more powerful. Like, it was bad enough that Mega Mewtwo's BST was higher than Arceus, but now Mega Rayquaza's is as well. And then both Primals likely being usable on the same team, and pseudo-permanent weather being returned. Just, as opposed to making more unique things, like the old formula, they're just giving everything ridiculous power buffs. Like, I think Gen IV was probably about the end of the usable Pokémon formula. Gen V was just legendary spam, and Gen VI added megas, which more or less gave some Pokémon Saiyan blood, so eh. [/rant]
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Xan on November 19, 2014, 02:28:54 am
Like, it was bad enough that Mega Mewtwo's BST was higher than Arceus, but now Mega Rayquaza's is as well.
I'm pretty sure Arceus still has a lot going for it compared to the MegaTwos. Plates changing its types, 120 across the board, etc. Those ginormous stats they gave Mewtwo don't matter as much as you think, given Life Orb Mewtwo is still stronger than MegaTwo Y by a bit.
Just, as opposed to making more unique things, like the old formula, they're just giving everything ridiculous power buffs.
But MegaQuaza's ability is new and unique, and so are the Primals' abilities, along with what they're doing with the Megas for the most part. They all add something new to the game. New strategies and whatnot. Not sure what you're talking about here.
Lemme list off the amount of legends that were added in each gen, counting legendaries:
Spoiler: boring-ass numbers(click to see content)
Gen 1 = 5 Gen 2 = 6 Gen 3 = 10 Gen 4 = 13 (12 not counting Phione) Gen 5 = 13 Gen 6 = 6
Gen 5 was legendary spam no more than Gen 4 was, and a good portion of legends added in both were event Pokemon (six in Gen 4, four in Gen 5), which a lot of people can't get either way. Again, not too sure what you're going on about here.
Besides, it's kinda hard to give a franchise like Pokemon a fresh start, given how it operates on adding new shit while keeping the old stuff intact. Individual Pokemon mainly change due to new moves and new items being made available, along with other additions that affect the Pokemon by proxy, rather than being individually tweaked, which only really began to happen in Gen 6 on a widespread scale outside of Gen 2 making Magnemite's family part Steel. Completely overhauling Pokemon is nigh-impossible with the formulaic approach the franchise has taken for the past forever in mind.
Or maybe I'm just reading too deep into your post. Still some good grounds for discussion, I suppose.
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Shadow0X3 on November 20, 2014, 02:31:11 am
Yeah that was probably unintelligible. I never actually thought of how many legendary Pokémon were introduced in Gen IV. I was mainly focused on Gen V having three trios which kind of bothered me. Anyways, rant over. Still looking forward to ORAS and such
Title: Re: Pokemon X & Pokemon Y (3DS)
Post by: Jango Hakamichi on November 29, 2014, 07:46:59 am
NLFG-WWWW-WWWC-RE2R
Probably the most lulzworthy yet awesome fight I've done.