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Title: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 17, 2013, 08:41:55 pm
[Preview]
(http://mugencoder.com/img/Mjky)

[Download]
http://mugencoder.com/authors/details/185 (http://mugencoder.com/authors/details/185)

[Comment]
Hey Guys, I'm happy to finally tell you that Pein is out. He's free to wreak havok on the world. :) Details, details:

- M.U.G.E.N 1.0
- Custom Effects for most moves.
- Unique moveset.
- Chibaku Tensei, Daishinra Tensei, Banshou Tenin and Pein Rikudo!
- Scalable A.I.
- English Soundpack.

That's the bulk of it. Later!

Readme:
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Preview Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGgj2XDg17c (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGgj2XDg17c)
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Laharl on March 17, 2013, 08:53:18 pm
I highly reccomend trying him hes a great char and does not disappoint as you would expect from alexei. I had a ball making his english Love troy bakers voice for him.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Hephaistos31 on March 17, 2013, 09:44:35 pm
[Forgot that. xD]

A rapid work, for a first portrait.

Thanks for your epic work, dude! :)
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 17, 2013, 09:46:52 pm
Thanks man! :) One thing though: This portrait is of the Animal Path, not the Deva Path, which this character is. Just thought you'd want to know :P
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Laharl on March 17, 2013, 09:52:02 pm
if she was ever made that would be a good port for her though.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Hephaistos31 on March 17, 2013, 09:53:47 pm
Hé hé! :D W8 3 minutes, men! :D

      Posted: March 17, 2013, 10:00:22 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/E7lnnF9.png)

I think it's MUCH better now. I really have a problem with some stuff.
1/ I didn't noticed she was a girl,
2/ The name of the portrait was Pein.

Fixed now, please accept my apologizes for this noob mistake. :p

Convert it in .PSX, or the direct .PSX version is on my folder. ;)
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: jweezy34 on March 17, 2013, 10:03:50 pm
I usually detest smallish chars but going by preview alone this is actually pretty damn good lol
nice job ^_^
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 17, 2013, 10:04:57 pm
It's cool lol. Pein has six paths, each named Pein lol. Yes, it's much better :D

     Posted: March 17, 2013, 10:06:12 pm
Thank you :) I usually hate them too, but I've grown accustomed to making them. Most I see are either too cheap and/or powerful and I wonder why? Because they're smaller, they need to be made fun of? Heh, it almost sounds like a real-world problem. :P Glad you like him :)
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Hephaistos31 on March 17, 2013, 10:09:07 pm
So the first Pein port I made was Pein too. And this portrait was not a girl. OMG what a chaotic post from me! :D :D

I leave the place for "real" feedback now. See ya! ;)
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Ryon on March 17, 2013, 10:44:00 pm
in addition to his video, I couldnt help but make one as well.
My video is strictly moveset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvFRr9khpgs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvFRr9khpgs)
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: QuickFist on March 17, 2013, 11:26:02 pm
In the web says, "updated", means he has the Deva or still the animal path port
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Astral-kun on March 17, 2013, 11:31:44 pm
dat Pain I wish I could test but out of all ur characters I like Deidara, Suigetsu, Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Jiraiya and Itachi oh and sakura too I wish you could make Hidan with NZC Sprites and with Rev 3 Gameplay that'd be a Dream Come True since me and my Friend were playing Co-op Squad Survival Yestarday
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Zingo on March 18, 2013, 12:18:20 am
Tested it a couple of times to make sure wasn't some random occurrence,  but in Simultaneous mode, he often causes one of the opponents to disappear for the entire round and at times freezes the game when trying to pull off that move that you took a screenshot off in the first post. 

P.S.  I wish his AI was a bit tougher, this is Pein after all.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: QuickFist on March 18, 2013, 01:01:46 am
Ok. Feedback:
It's truly and amazing char, we finally have a decent Pain in mugen.
The only things, in the Pein Rikudo, it kinda bothers me the rhino and Naraka summoning sprites they don't match with the quality of the others.
The A.I. should be a lot tougher, like Itachi, cause (indeed Zingo) this is Pein, the guy who destroyed Konoha completely on his own.
Also, I think, (my opinion), that the Daishinra Tensei should deal more damage, even if the oponent isn't close.

Thank you personally, Roschak, Pein is one of my favorite characters in Anime, and every single mugen char of him I found dissapointed me deeply, but with this, I can die happy.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 18, 2013, 01:15:35 am
Ok. Feedback:
It's truly and amazing char, we finally have a decent Pain in mugen.
The only things, in the Pein Rikudo, it kinda bothers me the rhino and Naraka summoning sprites they don't match with the quality of the others.
The A.I. should be a lot tougher, like Itachi, cause (indeed Zingo) this is Pein, the guy who destroyed Konoha completely on his own.
Also, I think, (my opinion), that the Daishinra Tensei should deal more damage, even if the oponent isn't close.

Thank you personally, Roschak, Pein is one of my favorite characters in Anime, and every single mugen char of him I found dissapointed me deeply, but with this, I can die happy.
Yes, I know they don't really match up with the other sprites. I did not sprite them and found no others that were even remotely close to being acceptable. As for the A.I, I really think it's quite tough at level 8. This character is not a boss character. He's a normal character and was designed to be as fair as the others. I've mentioned before to someone else that I hate scripted A.I. Same combos, same everything. Just rinse and repeat the entire moveset. Boring. With my A.I. I've seen new combos that not even I thought were possible lol. I'll increase the damage on Daishinra Tensei. That's a fair call I suppose :P

You're welcome. I honestly had no idea how much people were looking for a Pein. I try my best in everything I do and this is no exception :) I'll admit sometimes I feel that my best is not good enough, but I always doubt myself. This though, is clear proof that my efforts are well worth it. Live on friend. :)  Thanks fro the feedback by the way. It's rare that I ever do. I care about thanks, but care more about feedback. Now, time to make some udpates.

In the web says, "updated", means he has the Deva or still the animal path port

The portrait has not been updated and won't be. This will be something that people will have to do on an individual basis.

Tested it a couple of times to make sure wasn't some random occurrence,  but in Simultaneous mode, he often causes one of the opponents to disappear for the entire round and at times freezes the game when trying to pull off that move that you took a screenshot off in the first post. 

P.S.  I wish his AI was a bit tougher, this is Pein after all.
I think I know the cause of the freeze, but I have not been able to actually cause any opponents to disappear. I'll be releasing an update with the fix for that issue. Also, I think you're talking about the smaller Shinra Tensei. The one in the picture is the larger one.

Ummm... to me he's no pushover in terms of A.I. Are you on level 8 of difficulty?
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: QuickFist on March 18, 2013, 03:04:13 am
What I meant on the A.I. is that Itachi is tougher than him, I don't know If it's the fighting style, but It's harder to defeat Itachi.
Anyway, I don't if I should be asking this here but, what are the plans now? updating chars, new stages or finish the game?
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 18, 2013, 03:17:21 am
Yes, Itachi is tougher than them all. It's because of his moveset as you mentioned. It was never planned that way. I'll continue to look into his A.I. and try to update it when I can. Up next is the Screenpack for the game and stages.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: QuickFist on March 18, 2013, 03:34:00 am
Ok, great, by the way the Pein Rikudo attack was the only one I guessed would be harder to code than Chibaku Tensei, I guessed right, I was just playing against sasuke and he was going to hit me with chidori and I accidentaly used weak shinra tensei and that not only repelled the attack but it hurt him, that's gold right there man.
Keep it up!
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 18, 2013, 03:36:04 am
Yes, it took almost 2 weeks to code lol. Awesome man. It makes it all worthwhile :)
Most certainly :D
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Zingo on March 18, 2013, 05:44:48 am
Yes, it is the smaller Shinra that causes that freeze.  I am playing at normal difficulty ( I know it's an adjustable a.i. based on the level your playing on and all.)  Good luck with the fixes! 

To test out the disappearance issue, put him with a partner against 2 others in Watch mode and let the battle go on and you should see it occur.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 18, 2013, 01:30:41 pm
Yes, it is the smaller Shinra that causes that freeze.  I am playing at normal difficulty ( I know it's an adjustable a.i. based on the level your playing on and all.)  Good luck with the fixes! 

To test out the disappearance issue, put him with a partner against 2 others in Watch mode and let the battle go on and you should see it occur.

Hmm, well I thought I found the cause of it, but after further testing I'm still getting the "freezing" issue. This is just odd. At first I thought it had to do with computer specs or something, but if it happens on my computer even, (and I have a powerhouse of a PC lol), then it's got to be something else. Still looking into it.

I've fixed the disappearance issue. It basically happens when you do Universal Pull: Levitate and are interrupted before being stopped in mid air and smashed into the ground. It's hilarious to watch actually LOL! But, it's fixed now. No need to re-download until this other issue is fixed though. I'll let everyone know when it is.

     Posted: March 18, 2013, 10:34:59 pm
I think I've fixed the freezing issue. In this update is also the fix for the "disappearing" issue as well. Hope that does it.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Zingo on March 19, 2013, 04:16:42 am
Well done, the issues have been fixed with this update.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: BladeStorm_X on March 19, 2013, 04:30:49 am
Wow looks awesome
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 19, 2013, 04:33:46 am
Wow looks awesome
Thanks!

Well done, the issues have been fixed with this update.

Awesome, thank you.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Aki-Sora on March 19, 2013, 05:02:17 am
Pein Universe Pull has error with Char has partner and Chibaku Tensei is so slow to make enemy get .
In my idea if u make chibaku tensei flow in the high sky is good .I think Chibaku tensei is Pain Level 3 Super not Level 2 .
And Pain Sage of the six path is so good but not good with Pain Hell Path .But it a good work .(>_<)Thank for hardwork .
(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs4/1490866_o.gif)
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 19, 2013, 01:41:55 pm
I really don't understand what you're saying here. Sorry. You have to realize the paths aren't really meant to combo. They're ment to interfere in the fight. With any luck, the enemy is eaten by the King of Hell upon getting up from being trampled. There's no guarantees though. He's also already got two level 3 supers. That's why Chibaku Tensei is a level 2 super.

So, what's the error with Universal Pull? And... which one? He's got three. The only Chibaku Tensei looks the way it does in the Anime is because they made it block out the sun and create an eclipse. This is for effect. If was my choice not to make a false sun and do that. My rules are fairness and reality. Sometimes the two clash, but remember it's a fighting game. There's no time to watch movies, just to fight lol.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: QuickFist on March 19, 2013, 06:14:06 pm
Well Pein can control the power of his moves, so the Giant Shinra tensei is stronger than a small chibaku tensei, and It would be really annoying that the Chibaku were just like in the anime, can you imagine? You couldn't even block that unless you were the Kyuubi in 6 tails, and that would be really buggy, I didn't found any bug with the Universal Pull, just when you're comboing it's hard to pull out LOL.
By the way, I think Pein is the MAN to fight against Deidara in two words: SHINRA TENSEI. 
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 19, 2013, 06:18:55 pm
Well Pein can control the power of his moves, so the Giant Shinra tensei is stronger than a small chibaku tensei, and It would be really annoying that the Chibaku were just like in the anime, can you imagine? You couldn't even block that unless you were the Kyuubi in 6 tails, and that would be really buggy, I didn't found any bug with the Universal Pull, just when you're comboing it's hard to pull out LOL.
By the way, I think Pein is the MAN to fight against Deidara in two words: SHINRA TENSEI. 
Exactly, I'm making a tradeoff here. Anime accuracy for fairness. It's a fighting game, not an Anime. I couldn't even imagine making things like that lol. The thought makes me turn back and say "That's WAY too cheap." lol. Universal Pull can miss of course, but that randomness is what keeps things fair and interesting. Follow a script and you'll get the same result every time. BORING!

Also, that's awesome lol. I've found myself doing the same thing against Deidara. The trick is to exploit his free time and dash in the air a lot. But too often or he'll catch on and start blasting you out of the air. The best thing I've been able to pull off with that Shinra Tensei is block and destroy all of Deidara's bombs and kill him with the final burst of it. Gold lol.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: QuickFist on March 19, 2013, 06:23:40 pm
If he was frustrated that Sasuke escaped from everything imagine fighting against someone that destroys your proyectiles.
-"Your weird art can kiss one of six a**s"!-
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Megabyt2k2 on March 20, 2013, 02:18:02 am
Hmmm...is it me or is the mugencoder site down?
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 20, 2013, 02:21:54 am
Yes, it seems to be down. Why? Dreamhost will have to answer that >>. Hopefully this is only temporary or I'm going to have to make some angry phone calls lol.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: QuickFist on March 20, 2013, 02:35:51 am
Yep, it's down
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Aki-Sora on March 20, 2013, 02:45:18 am
Thank for reply !!
Pain is weak than Itachi in watch mode.
I want it so powerful like Anime .
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 20, 2013, 02:49:37 am
No problem. I try to reply to everyone. :)

Yes, I know, but that's just A.I. and I'm still working on it every now and then. I refuse to have scripted A.I that would just destroy everything.
By that logic as well, then Naruto would be unstoppable, since he was able to defeat Pein. You've got to think of fairness here. You know I can't
make it like the Anime because the Anime is an Anime. This is a fighting game. There's a huge difference. Certain limitations need to be set up to allow for fairness.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: kenshin101 on March 20, 2013, 02:51:44 am
DUDE sorry for the caps Im glade your making the fourth hokage. your characters are perfect creations keep it up bro.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 20, 2013, 02:53:20 am
Caps are fine as long as it's not an all out "CAPS RAGE" lol. Thanks, I most certainly will :D

     Posted: March 20, 2013, 02:56:06 am
P.S. This is off topic. I would send out a news post on my site, but it's down and this is about that so... here goes. Apparently, DreamHost, my hosting provider has had some outages at one of their Data Center locations in California. Unfortunately, my site is on of the servers in that downed Data Center. They're working actively to get it back up so hopefully we'll be good to go by at least tomorrow.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Megabyt2k2 on March 20, 2013, 08:20:00 am
As of 2:18AM Central time your site is back up
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Keaton on March 21, 2013, 03:07:57 am
Finally one of my most anticipated Naruto characters. Thnx bud!
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 21, 2013, 03:08:43 am
No problem :)
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Legend Ivanhoe on March 21, 2013, 08:02:54 pm
Hey Alexei, is it the char already updated? Cause with all these people talking about what they don't like, what do you need to make it look more anime style etc, it is impossible for me to know. Lol!
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 21, 2013, 08:25:25 pm
Yes, the character is updated. I'm not going to make any more changes to him. At least, not in terms of becoming more Anime accurate.
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Legend Ivanhoe on March 21, 2013, 09:55:48 pm
Ok. I think is great just the way it is. XD!
Title: Re: Pein Released
Post by: Алексей on March 21, 2013, 10:11:48 pm
Me too :)