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Art & Entertainment => Fighting Games => Topic started by: Titiln on November 19, 2004, 06:28:24 pm

Title: Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS / Wii U
Post by: Titiln on November 19, 2004, 06:28:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/8Y3xHQY.png) (http://i.imgur.com/QAgkqg7.png)
super smash bros. for 3ds and wii u is the newest smash brothers game!
http://www.smashbros.com/

smash bros is out enjoy
Title: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 04:50:09 pm

(http://i.imgur.com/KRlk03o.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 1Ultima on June 11, 2013, 04:52:57 pm
Day 1 buy.
Day. One. Buy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 11, 2013, 04:56:47 pm
I'm fucking sold. This is going to be glorious.

I'd buy both ports too :V
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Pal on June 11, 2013, 04:58:07 pm
Mega Man.

That's it. I need this game now.

Also, graphics style on 3DS look shitty to me. Who cares. Mega Man is in. Just... FORGET IT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=aX2KNyaoNV4
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 04:58:44 pm
I have lots of money at hand!

Super Smash Bros will be day one buy!

Along with a shiny new WiiU!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 1Ultima on June 11, 2013, 04:59:54 pm
Is Pit using the weapons from Uprising?
Brb, buying a Wii U
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 05:01:32 pm
Aw crap didn't realize Megaman trailer was separate added it to the first post.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 11, 2013, 05:02:42 pm
My question is just how many of these classic powers is he going to have? I saw like 5-6 in that trailer alone.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on June 11, 2013, 05:08:00 pm
Looks like Yellow Devil is a boss.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Ricepigeon on June 11, 2013, 05:10:03 pm
My question is just how many of these classic powers is he going to have? I saw like 5-6 in that trailer alone.

6, plus about 4 more on disc as DLC :smug:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 11, 2013, 05:12:56 pm
Earthbound fans = Spend years working on petitions, fan artwork, making friends with the developer and they get shafted.

Megaman fans = Kick, scream, cry, whine and send death threats to the developers and they get spoiled.

The video game industry is awesome.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on June 11, 2013, 05:13:54 pm
...

What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 11, 2013, 05:20:53 pm
wow the villager from animal crossing and megaman, so it's gonna be called super smash bros. instead of just super smash bros. universe?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Retro Respecter on June 11, 2013, 05:22:01 pm
I even got a new catchphrase for this. Ahem..

LET'S SMASH SOME HEADS!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 11, 2013, 05:22:33 pm
Earthbound fans = Spend years working on petitions, fan artwork, making friends with the developer and they get shafted.

Megaman fans = Kick, scream, cry, whine and send death threats to the developers and they get spoiled.

The video game industry is awesome.
you forgot to factor the money spent part.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 11, 2013, 05:27:54 pm
how many characters were there in the original n64, melee and brawl?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 05:28:39 pm
I have a question:

how likely is it that Namco will introduce a character from one of their franchises into the game?

I meant, they helped make this happen.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 11, 2013, 05:47:32 pm
I have a question:

how likely is it that Namco will introduce a character from one of their franchises into the game?

I meant, they helped make this happen.

yeah i'm hoping for a tekken character to come
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on June 11, 2013, 05:50:01 pm
I would love to see Klonoa in the game ..or a namco arcade based stage with pacman, galaga, xevious, rolling thunder elements...

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Ness on June 11, 2013, 05:56:57 pm
Now they'll add Zero as an expansion, then  later down the road it'll be capcom vs. nintendo ultimate all star fighting jam smash cousins ... RYUU vs. Mario!  WOOT

ehh.. j.k.

This is awesome though
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2013, 06:05:05 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava.png[/avatar]OH MY FUCKING GOD.  Mega Man.  Animal Crossing Dude.  Smash Bros.  Fangasm achieved.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 11, 2013, 06:13:00 pm
It'll be Pac-Man: He was in an arcade Mario Kart already.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SlySuavity on June 11, 2013, 06:14:32 pm
Pretty cool that Megaman fans didn't get shafted this once. :3

Now to cross fingers for Marth. Yes, he's an overrated bishonen but I don't give a hoot -- GIMME MARTH.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Do not even ask on June 11, 2013, 06:16:27 pm
Bowser's already confirmed, so I'm already hooked.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 11, 2013, 06:22:11 pm
Nintendo is definitely not stopping here, and with FE's popularity now I don't think he's getting dropped.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 06:26:07 pm
I just hope they don't replace Marth with "Marth"

They also need to expand on alt costumes Pikachu and Jigglypuff sort of have alts with their accessories for there alts colors and Wario got his classic costume but they need to do that for everyone.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Do not even ask on June 11, 2013, 06:41:03 pm
Fuck Marth. I want my boy Roy back. >:(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 06:50:53 pm
Forget both of them, why not Chrom?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 06:52:57 pm
Because Chrom is pretty much guaranteed to be in anyway and he's really boring anyway.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 06:54:44 pm
How is he boring?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SageHarpuiaJDJ on June 11, 2013, 06:55:03 pm
HELLZ YEA, MEGAMAN!!!

I may get a 3DS for this. Villager also looked interesting.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DW on June 11, 2013, 06:58:18 pm
Fuck Marth. I want my boy Roy back. >:(

Hey! I like Marth! >:[ Though, I agree with the notion of bringing Roy back and get rid of Ike. This is looking really good. I hope they keep Snake and Sonic, along with the addition of Megaman would be awesome. I'm also hoping they throw some other chars in from those 3rd party franchises. Perhaps a Belmont from Castevania from Konami. Shadow and/or Knuckles from Sega. One can only hope/dream...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2013, 06:59:00 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordbutterfly.png[/avatar]I'm keeping my fingers crossed for Tingle to finally be playable.  Kooloo-limpah, motherfuckers.  Also, I wonder if they would change Pokemon Trainer from the classic version to the new X and Y guy.  I hope not.

Oh god, I'm starting to have flashbacks to years ago when I spent all my time trawling around Smash Bros forums. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 07:00:34 pm
Out of curiosity,

If Namco's adding one of its own characters into SSB, what would it be?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Negi Springfield on June 11, 2013, 07:11:25 pm
Out of curiosity,

If Namco's adding one of its own characters into SSB, what would it be?

Well... given Namco's expanded roster, it's hard to nail down a single idea.
Idealy a Tekken character. Maybe Jin or Kazyua.

Realisticly, maybe something more cartoony like Pac-Man or something.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 11, 2013, 07:30:02 pm
check the second post in this thread for picters
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kamekaze on June 11, 2013, 07:41:05 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/31d2d541477b2d692317d9f834e21ba0/tumblr_mo8mhekvAA1r9ureyo1_r1_1280.png)

what.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 07:44:06 pm
Out of curiosity,

If Namco's adding one of its own characters into SSB, what would it be?

Well... given Namco's expanded roster, it's hard to nail down a single idea.
Idealy a Tekken character. Maybe Jin or Kazyua.

Realisticly, maybe something more cartoony like Pac-Man or something.
Or maybe someone from Soul series.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 11, 2013, 08:13:58 pm
whoa, Smashboards is offline. The roster speculation is going to be fun.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 11, 2013, 08:24:46 pm
Won't have to wait long.  Shiggy just said there was going to be another character announcement later today on the GT stream.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 11, 2013, 08:42:40 pm
That's excellent to hear.  Definitely looking forward to more character reveals.
I'm sooo glad this happening...  :swoon:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 08:44:06 pm
I uh what?

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/11/wii-fit-trainer-girl-joins-super-smash-bros-no-really/
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 11, 2013, 08:50:04 pm
OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOD

So, so good. And I'm not even a Mega Man guy.

Earthbound fans = Spend years working on petitions, fan artwork, making friends with the developer and they get shafted.

Megaman fans = Kick, scream, cry, whine and send death threats to the developers and they get spoiled.
I know, right? Totally unfair. Since, as we all know, rosters are set in stone and no Earthbound characters can be added now, and that Mega Man fans are just getting new game after new game to whet their entitled appetite. How spoiled of them! Though I suppose it could be worse, they could be whining about the fact that Kirby is on the roster or something! Talk about entitled!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 11, 2013, 08:51:15 pm
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/06/11/wii-fit-trainer-girl-joins-super-smash-bros-no-really/
They would've had better luck adding the Wii Mii's or whatever you call them to the roster.
Meh.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 11, 2013, 09:01:58 pm
Well that's surprising....and unsurprising at the same time.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2013, 09:04:53 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discorduseethis_zps4ee97f62.png[/avatar]I... uh... huh.  Okay then.

I guess her Final Smash looks pretty cool, though. (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=204716)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 11, 2013, 09:07:53 pm
This game looks like absolute ass.  Same exact slow clunky engine as Brawl, terrible art style, miserable roster so far.  Yeah I think I'll be passing on this one until it hits 30 dollars and the Brawl community start modding it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 11, 2013, 09:08:56 pm
i figure the rest of the newcomers are mostly going to be weird hella left field things since all the obvious characters are already in the game
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 11, 2013, 09:14:11 pm
I agree.
I think you're alone on that one. 
Then again, you've always had a unique perspective on video games.  :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 11, 2013, 09:18:52 pm
MC2 is that what you think or are you just being a sheep?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2013, 09:21:21 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discorddunno_zps297811b9.png[/avatar]
This game looks like absolute ass.  Same exact slow clunky engine as Brawl, terrible art style, miserable roster so far.  Yeah I think I'll be passing on this one until it hits 30 dollars and the Brawl community start modding it.

Hey, if this game is a turn-off to all the fundamental Melee zealots that make the Smash Bros. community so painful to interact with, I say all the better.  I had a fucking blast with SSBB, so I'd love to see the new game take off with Brawl as a starting point.

Oh, and that "miserable roster" is 60% made up of characters that have been around since the N64 era, so IDK what your problem is there.  Were you really hoping they would drop Samus and Pikachu or something?

:EDIT:  Here's a Yubtub vid of WFT.  Start at the 6:00 mark.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 11, 2013, 09:26:31 pm
Pretty sure it's Megaman. He's always hated that character for some reason.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: -Red- on June 11, 2013, 09:29:16 pm
oh so final smashes are not getting dropped then? Hehe, cool.

This game is probably going to have the largest SSB roster ever so I am sure pretty much almost everybody from the past games will make it in. I mean namco is known for including clones in their games so heck, even dr mario may come back :P

And yeah, I would expect a fuckton of costumes as well, is what namco does the best lately when it comes to customization.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 11, 2013, 09:32:38 pm
One character had extra costumes in Brawl, so hopefully they expand on that.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 11, 2013, 09:32:59 pm
oh so final smashes are not getting dropped then? Hehe, cool.
Samus' was in the first trailer.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 11, 2013, 09:37:16 pm
This game looks like absolute ass.  Same exact slow clunky engine as Brawl, terrible art style, miserable roster so far.  Yeah I think I'll be passing on this one until it hits 30 dollars and the Brawl community start modding it.
Are you gonna sit in the corner and complain that people enjoy this game the whole trip? Don't make me pull over.

Don't worry, there's no need to answer, I know how difficult that is for you.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: -Red- on June 11, 2013, 09:39:06 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a57f2c9c4033d8cd530d6636252516f1/tumblr_mo8hx3gjPk1qjliv8o1_1280.png)

I'm having a conflict now... buy a ps4 or a wii u? D:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 11, 2013, 09:46:16 pm
Quote
(http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/wii_fit_trainer/screen-1.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/VZKcbC3.jpg)
Not exactly right, but it was the first thing I thought of.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 11, 2013, 09:47:01 pm
I'm buying both.
However, at the moment, I'm strictly buying the Wii U for the new SSB only.

Also, the Wii fitness girl actually looks pretty fucking boss.  Megaman's breakdown seemed pretty legit too.  :P
I think it's cool that Megaman's neutral A is simply his buster.  I'd be awesome if his final smash was him turning into Megaman X.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 09:47:52 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a57f2c9c4033d8cd530d6636252516f1/tumblr_mo8hx3gjPk1qjliv8o1_1280.png)

I'm having a conflict now... buy a ps4 or a wii u? D:


Buy PS4 first Wii U will see a price drop before PS4 will.
Man Donkey Kong has to have the best facial expressions.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 1Ultima on June 11, 2013, 09:49:19 pm
I'm having a conflict now... buy a ps4 or a wii u? D:


I can't afford both so I'm getting the PS4 for KH3 and getting this for 3DS
 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bea on June 11, 2013, 09:52:13 pm
I am going with the Wii U and the 3DS.
PS4 is nice and all, but too hardcore for my tastes. I am more of a casual gamer, with a hint of hardcore here and there, and the Wii U and 3DS games fit this perfectly.

And Megaman got me sold on this new SSB.
His model is just so perfect. They need to make a new Megaman game using it, so good it is.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Darkflare on June 11, 2013, 09:52:43 pm
I'd be awesome if his final smash was him turning into Megaman X.

X and Classic MM are two different robots, so not happening. If we're going to guess MM's Final Smash, it's either the Flame Blast at the end of his trailer or a nod to his Hyper Megaman from MvC series.



Also, is it me or do the models look LESS detailed here than in Brawl(Mario and Link in particular)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 11, 2013, 09:55:13 pm
They're deviating from the gritty-but-colorful look in Melee/Brawl.

Buying the Wii U for Smash, Platinum Games, and possibly Darkstalkers.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on June 11, 2013, 09:55:29 pm
The problem is that Brawl's textures were too detailed and glossy despite their resolutions being inadequate for the actual platform it was on.
Here they look... natural.

Models are of higher quality, and Link's hair... *drools*

btw YOOOOO WII FIT TRAINER
DAY 1 MAIN
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 11, 2013, 09:56:25 pm
Yea, Mario and Link's clothing material is less apparent IMO.
I didn't think much of it though.
X and Classic MM are two different robots, so not happening.
Ha yea, I was just thinking of a cheap reason to include X.  :ninja:
I can't wait to see Megaman's final smash either way.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 11, 2013, 09:59:11 pm
Come on Micah, X? Naaaaaah, they made the right choice with Classic. :)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2013, 10:00:48 pm
Different-ish vid, no commentary, English voice.



I actually kind of love the calm, reassuring tone she keeps as she whoops your ass.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Darkflare on June 11, 2013, 10:01:04 pm
Personally, I find Classic MM to be way overrated but whatever.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Just No Point on June 11, 2013, 10:05:16 pm
Classic MM makes more sense because he helped build the NES as well.

X is cooler, but can't say he built any consoles.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 11, 2013, 10:08:05 pm
I personally hope a Tales Of character makes it in I would love to see Lloyd I Doubt it but I can always dream. I really hope we DON'T get chrom he has to be the most boring protaganist in FE to date. Id rather Lyn or something, roy coming back would be amazing but really I know chrom will be there I just HOPE not. that wii fit trainer is um odd... but maybe its what they are doing for the "rob" character something you don't expect whatsoever?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 11, 2013, 10:08:51 pm
I love the way Megaman looks here.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 11, 2013, 10:14:11 pm
I personally hope a Tales Of character makes it in I would love to see Lloyd I Doubt it but I can always dream. I really hope we DON'T get chrom he has to be the most boring protaganist in FE to date. Id rather Lyn or something, roy coming back would be amazing but really I know chrom will be there I just HOPE not. that wii fit trainer is um odd... but maybe its what they are doing for the "rob" character something you don't expect whatsoever?
I've been seeing Lloyd pop up in every character spec. thread. I hope Isaac from Golden Sun upgrades from an assist trophy into a full character

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2013, 10:17:58 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordtwilight.png[/avatar]Seeing WFT and Villager has made me kind of hope that they pull some more characters from other unlikely franchises.  Come on Elite Beat Agents!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 10:19:15 pm
Hoping for Shulk from Xenoblade and of course Ridley.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 11, 2013, 10:24:23 pm
so far there's stage where the wii fit balance board makes an appearance, trust me, i've played wii fit before
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 11, 2013, 10:25:34 pm
We've always trusted you, drewski.

Hoping for Shulk from Xenoblade and of course Ridley.
Ridley is too big! Dark Samus would be the best option, I think. Its/she's got a pretty wide powerset so she/it wouldn't have to be a clone. Plus, can anyone say SA-X alt costume!?

AND FOR FINAL SMASH IT TURNS INTO METROID PRIME OR THE AURORA UNIT COMBO
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 11, 2013, 10:27:22 pm
Now they'll add Zero as an expansion, then  later down the road it'll be capcom vs. nintendo ultimate all star fighting jam smash cousins ... RYUU vs. Mario!  WOOT

ehh.. j.k.

This is awesome though

No they won't waste their time and money to add Zero.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 11, 2013, 10:27:24 pm
Ridley is too big!
But he was the same size as Samus in the first game!
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 11, 2013, 10:28:46 pm
ridley could just be around bowser's size and would be more interesting than evil samus
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 11, 2013, 10:29:42 pm
One Metroid rep is enough.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 11, 2013, 10:30:10 pm
Can I just point out that Megaman was freakin' making the Ninty characters his bitches in the trailer?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 11, 2013, 10:35:49 pm
ridley could just be around bowser's size and would be more interesting than evil samus
It's Dark Samus >:[

SA-X is Evil Samus.

     Posted: June 11, 2013, 10:36:53 pm
One Metroid rep is enough.
Why? Metroid needs more love.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 11, 2013, 10:38:12 pm
SA-X = Evil Samus?

final smash is shun goku satsu

Seriously though Smash Bros was all about the more oddball inclusions so I'm not THAT surprised the Wii Fit Trainer lady got in.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2013, 10:41:14 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-5.png[/avatar]
One Metroid rep is enough.
Why? Metroid needs more love.
The other Metroid rep will be Adam and his only attack will be telling the other players that they aren't authorized to attack him.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 11, 2013, 10:42:16 pm
Anthony. He will make the opponent stop attacking by asking if they remember him and hen shoots them with his BFG. His Final Smash is getting them tail-smacked into lava by Ridley
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Cazaki on June 11, 2013, 10:43:04 pm
Personally, I find Classic MM to be way overrated but whatever.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 11, 2013, 10:43:45 pm
The other Metroid rep will be Adam and his only attack will be telling the other players that they aren't authorized to attack him.
Anthony. He will make the opponent stop attacking by asking if they remember him and hen shoots them with his BFG. His Final Smash is getting them tail-smacked into lava by Ridley
I don't know what either of you are talking about because that game doesn't exist.
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Post by: Roman55 on June 11, 2013, 10:44:24 pm
I'm more excited to beat people up as Wii Fit Girl than Mega Man in all honesty.

Mainly because it's so oddball I love it.

I don't know what either of you are talking about because that game doesn't exist.
Probably some bad fan fic.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 11, 2013, 10:45:33 pm
The other Metroid rep will be Adam and his only attack will be telling the other players that they aren't authorized to attack him.
If he goes up against Samus, she just jumps off and has a 15 minute inner monologue about just how fucking amazing of a person Adam is and how she could never go on without him.

And she strips down to zero suit, naturally.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 10:46:00 pm
One Metroid rep is enough.

No way not when Earthbound Fire Emblem and Star Fox have more than one.

Ridley is too big! Dark Samus would be the best option, I think. Its/she's got a pretty wide powerset so she/it wouldn't have to be a clone. Plus, can anyone say SA-X alt costume!?

AND FOR FINAL SMASH IT TURNS INTO METROID PRIME OR THE AURORA UNIT COMBO

They made Villager and WFT work they can make Ridley work if Bowser is allowed to have BS magical powers that let him change size why not Ridley Dark Samus isn't a giant space dragon she's not as interesting to me and i know nothing about Dark Samus since i never played the full prime series because the first one kept getting a corrupt save file halfway through every time i tried to beat.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Cazaki on June 11, 2013, 10:50:49 pm
Metroid would be fine just having a Ridley boss/cameo/stagehazard and a couple levels. I don't really mind only Samus being playable because she's really all that matters. I would like a slight moveset change though from her, it's just never been adequate enough for me.

Also Elite Beat Agents suggestion brought me back.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 11, 2013, 10:51:57 pm
Forgot one very important Metroid Rep

THE BABY

Latches onto and heals random character Final Smash is getting lasered and making Samus monologue for ages about THE BABY
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 11, 2013, 10:57:38 pm
    http://gematsu.com/2013/06/wii-fit-trainer-joins-super-smash-bros

Quote
Last week, Gematsu was tipped off about Nintendo’s E3 character reveals for Super Smash Bros. But since we were unable to confirm the validity of our source, we refrained from posting the information. Of the six characters we were told would be revealed, three have been confirmed: Mega Man, Animal Crossing Villager, and Wii Fit Trainer. The three left remaining are Little Mac, Pac-Man, and your Mii.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on June 11, 2013, 11:00:17 pm
Little Mac I hope is real.

Pac Man possibly being in was a given honestly.

And screw my Mii.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 11:02:51 pm
Little Mac is awesome too bad he can't have Mike Tyson as a final smash if he gets in.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 11, 2013, 11:03:21 pm
He should have Mike Tyson's uppercut as his final smash. Instant death. :mmhmm:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xenomic on June 11, 2013, 11:05:10 pm
Little Mac would be so cool.

Also, ironic that Mega Man being in since last Smash game me and buds were constantly talking about how well Mega Man would fit into this series~

Needs more Tiki/Chiki love. Dragon final smash hoooooo! (No, I haven't played FE, but I only know so many characters, her included! ^^;; )
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 11, 2013, 11:08:20 pm
Y'know, I'm surprise no one mentioned any of the Hunters as Metroid reps. I personally want to see Spire in there.

Spire is this badass mofo, in case you didn't already know:
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080204043409/metroid/images/0/09/Spire.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 11, 2013, 11:09:31 pm
The other Metroid rep will be Adam and his only attack will be telling the other players that they aren't authorized to attack him.
If he goes up against Samus, she just jumps off and has a 15 minute inner monologue about just how fucking amazing of a person Adam is and how she could never go on without him.

And she strips down to zero suit, naturally.

no zero suit samus no buy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 11, 2013, 11:14:00 pm
The other Metroid rep will be Adam and his only attack will be telling the other players that they aren't authorized to attack him.
If he goes up against Samus, she just jumps off and has a 15 minute inner monologue about just how fucking amazing of a person Adam is and how she could never go on without him.

And she strips down to zero suit, naturally.

no zero suit samus no buy.
so zero suit samus is a one-off character?

anyway, I'm gonna get both versions the wii u and 3ds because of different character sprites/design
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2013, 11:20:40 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordintrigued.png[/avatar]
    http://gematsu.com/2013/06/wii-fit-trainer-joins-super-smash-bros

Quote
Last week, Gematsu was tipped off about Nintendo’s E3 character reveals for Super Smash Bros. But since we were unable to confirm the validity of our source, we refrained from posting the information. Of the six characters we were told would be revealed, three have been confirmed: Mega Man, Animal Crossing Villager, and Wii Fit Trainer. The three left remaining are Little Mac, Pac-Man, and your Mii.

Little Mac seemed like a given after I saw that boxing ring stage in the trailer.  Still, I'm glad to hear he's got a good chance of making it in.  Punch-Out deserves the love.

Pac-Man seems pretty obvious too, since Namco's making this one and he was already in that one Mario Kart game.  I've never actually cared about Pac-Man as a character (has anyone, really?  It's more about the game itself than it is about him), but I'll give it to them.

And Mii is meh.  Not wholly unexpected, but whatever.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 11, 2013, 11:21:06 pm
From what I heard, Paper Mario, Bowser Jr., Waluigi, and Geno can fit pretty well.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 11, 2013, 11:22:58 pm
so, will there be more newcomers or is that all? I'm hoping for a possibility for an snk character?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: -Red- on June 11, 2013, 11:23:27 pm
I just want something related to Battle City already God damn it! At least a trophy! Come on!

so, will there be more newcomers or is that all? I'm hoping for a possibility for an snk character?

lol dude you're being too obvious there.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 11, 2013, 11:26:41 pm
I just want something related to Battle City already God damn it! At least a trophy! Come on!

so, will there be more newcomers or is that all? I'm hoping for a possibility for an snk character?

lol dude you're being too obvious there.

I know, right? If there was a possibility an snk character be here, it would have to be either my favorites, which are billy kane, eiji kisaragi, and nakoruru
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: -Red- on June 11, 2013, 11:27:30 pm
oh please, you know what I mean, you're not tricking me ;)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 11, 2013, 11:27:43 pm
From what I heard, Paper Mario, Bowser Jr., Waluigi, and Geno can fit pretty well.
yeah they can fit pretty well

in the garbage can
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 11, 2013, 11:29:27 pm
oh please, you know what I mean, you're not tricking me ;)

I know I'm not, anyway, which pokemon should appear in this game? My guess, infernape mostly ;)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 11, 2013, 11:30:51 pm
Mewtwo.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 11, 2013, 11:33:07 pm
Mewtwo.

yeah, what would mewtwo's final smash would be?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 11, 2013, 11:38:15 pm
Drewski you're a funny guy, I love you.  :P
To answer your question, he'd probably have some sort of focus blast.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 11, 2013, 11:39:48 pm
It'd be Psyshock. :3
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 11, 2013, 11:40:30 pm
It'll be FariyTwo you guys now it's true.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Long John Killer on June 11, 2013, 11:42:32 pm
Being Mewtwo is his Final Smash. (http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Happy+Birthday+Mewtwo.+Happy+Birthday+to+our+favorite+badass_687ed5_3283174.jpg)

Little Mac, though, huh?  That's pretty cool, I'd like to see that.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 11, 2013, 11:43:02 pm
I personally hope a Tales Of character makes it in I would love to see Lloyd I Doubt it but I can always dream. I really hope we DON'T get chrom he has to be the most boring protaganist in FE to date. Id rather Lyn or something, roy coming back would be amazing but really I know chrom will be there I just HOPE not. that wii fit trainer is um odd... but maybe its what they are doing for the "rob" character something you don't expect whatsoever?
I've been seeing Lloyd pop up in every character spec. thread. I hope Isaac from Golden Sun upgrades from an assist trophy into a full character



that would be cool to actually golden sun is a classic
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 11, 2013, 11:44:14 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordballoon2_zps6530429e.png[/avatar]
which pokemon should appear in this game?
I really haven't been following Pokemon that closely, but it'll probably be whatever new one they're hyping up as the mascot for X and Y.  I do wonder if Jigglypuff will make it back again, though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 11, 2013, 11:47:35 pm
id like to see pokemon trainer come back, he was my favorite in brawl. This time with current gen pokemon and have the choice of picking male and female trainer like if they were different color options or whatever

From what I heard, Paper Mario, Bowser Jr., Waluigi can fit pretty well.
yeah they can fit pretty well

in the garbage can

fixed, geno needs to be in this game!

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 11, 2013, 11:49:35 pm
JigglyPuff hasn't missed a game so it's very plausible its in this one.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 11, 2013, 11:58:53 pm
The Mii, Little Mac, and Pac-Man, while are all valid assumptions, are not confirmed, so they are still up in the air until we have more information.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bea on June 12, 2013, 12:03:04 am
... If they add Little Mac to this game, I might have a heart attack.
Punch Out! is my favorite game ever.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SoldierSunday on June 12, 2013, 12:09:16 am
Yo, rhyperior and electivire,son.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 12:17:07 am
so, will there be more newcomers or is that all? I'm hoping for a possibility for an snk character?

SNK? Why? Fans won't be expecting SNK character.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 12, 2013, 12:20:19 am
so, will there be more newcomers or is that all? I'm hoping for a possibility for an snk character?

SNK? Why? Fans won't be expecting SNK character.

I know, anyway, I'm hoping both infernape and buizel be in a new super smash bros game
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 12, 2013, 12:23:16 am
The Pokémon will either be Zoroark or whichever X an Y Pokémon they make a movie about.

I hate Pokémon Trainer and the rest of the gimmicky Pokémon characters (that essentially excludes Pikachu and (to some extent) Jigglypuff). If Zoroark is put in, who wants to bet that he attacks by turning into other characters :/

In fangasm mode, I'd want Gallade, Typhlosion or Garchomp in there.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 12:25:56 am
From what I heard, Paper Mario, Bowser Jr., Waluigi, and Geno can fit pretty well.
yeah they can fit pretty well

in the garbage can

"in the garbage can"? What the hell is your problem?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 12, 2013, 12:30:54 am
hes simply saying they wouldn't be fitting whatsoever by mocking you at the same time samo samo.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 12, 2013, 12:32:54 am
From what I heard, Paper Mario, Bowser Jr., Waluigi, and Geno can fit pretty well.
yeah they can fit pretty well

in the garbage can

"in the garbage can"? What the hell is your problem?

I will totally agree with Paper Mario and Bowser Jr. to an extent, but not the others.

Seriously, Paper Mario, Cosmic Mario, Fake Mario, Penguin Mario, Tanooki Mario, Spring Mario, Boomerang Mario...why would we want any of these in the game if we have good old Mario Mario?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 12, 2013, 12:35:01 am
it was annoying enough having 2 marios in melee dr mario lol he only had like one difference.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: CRIMZON on June 12, 2013, 12:36:31 am
Finn and Jake!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 12:39:43 am
hes simply saying they wouldn't be fitting whatsoever by mocking you at the same time samo samo.

Mocking? *sigh* Rude ass people these days... -_-
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Omega on June 12, 2013, 12:40:10 am
This looks so great really! İt definitly needs more guest characters.

One of those could be awesome:

- Goku Kid from Dragonball (with King Piccolo as a boss)
- Chrono from Chrono Trigger
- Astro Boy
- Rayman
- Sparkster
- A Super Sentai (one that fits) / A Power Ranger (one that fits)
- A Kamen Rider (one that fits)
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (any of them could do)
- BattleToads
- Spiderman
- Arthur from Ghosts 'n Goblins
- Alex from River City
- Crash Bandicoot
- Scrooge McDuck from DuckTales

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 12:40:54 am
Finn and Jake!

Why? They aren't from nintendo at all.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Tyrant Belial on June 12, 2013, 12:41:44 am
I. . I'm not sure if you're all mocking the usual speculations, or serious in them.
But either way I;m getting a chuckle.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 12, 2013, 12:45:08 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordworried2_zpsafe2dce5.png[/avatar]

This is either an incredibly well done satire of stupid character wishlists, or really sad.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Prototype God on June 12, 2013, 12:45:55 am
New smash still seems slower than melee, but a bit faster than brawl. (Note, video shown below has the wii fit person, but also sakurai vs some poor chump)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rqxDPJmO6f8#
 :dadadadaa:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 12:48:25 am
This looks so great really! İt definitly needs more guest characters.

One of those could be awesome:

- Goku Kid from Dragonball (with King Piccolo as a boss)
- Chrono from Chrono Trigger
- Astro Boy
- Rayman
- Sparkster
- A Super Sentai (one that fits) / A Power Ranger (one that fits)
- A Kamen Rider (one that fits)
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (any of them could do)
- BattleToads
- Spiderman
- Arthur from Ghosts 'n Goblins
- Alex from River City
- Crash Bandicoot
- Scrooge McDuck from DuckTales



O_O
Wow. Just wow. After one simple 3rd party character shows up, everyone thinks that anyone from random companies can be in the game! This is gonna get out of hand.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on June 12, 2013, 12:55:53 am
DJ Track's wishlist isn't a joke because it's missing the usual suspects:
- Ryu
- Master Chief
- Crash Bandicoot
- Geno from Super Mario RPG
- Sora from Kingdom Hearts!!!
- Hank Hill

But since we're having unrealistic expectations, I want Mr. Jones from Rage of the Dragons, Joseph Joestar from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (from his Battle Tendency appearance), Peacock and Cerebella from Skullgirls, and the black dude in an apron dancing in the mall stage in X-Men VS Street Fighter.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on June 12, 2013, 12:57:29 am
I want Karnov since his game was on NES back in the day and that makes him a viable candidate.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Suave 6-year old on June 12, 2013, 12:58:39 am
- Hank Hill

Not gonna lie, I'd love this so much lol

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Cazaki on June 12, 2013, 01:00:16 am
Lol this thread.

I'm also very disappointed in anyone who would pass up Squirtle, Venusaur and Charizard for new Pokemon. Very disappointed.

I also wonder if Marth and Ike both will make it again. Seems like three would be too many FE reps, as much as I love the series.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Prototype God on June 12, 2013, 01:01:34 am
Heh, ill throw my hat in the ring as well. Im hoping for doc from punch out to be in. He'd be like little mac, but with chocolate! (hopefully instead of lil mac, but that's pretty much impossible.) Also, jimmy from wario ware.
Also, you missed shadow the hedgehog Mr Jango. Hes the biggest suspect of them all!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Suave 6-year old on June 12, 2013, 01:07:24 am
Lol this thread.

I'm also very disappointed in anyone who would pass up Squirtle, Venusaur and Charizard for new Pokemon. Very disappointed.

I also wonder if Marth and Ike both will make it again. Seems like three would be too many FE reps, as much as I love the series.

Psh, Kirby series had 3 reps, why couldn't FE? I only know the FE series through Roy, Marth and Ike, but I really love Ike and I hope he makes a return. I could care less about Marth and Roy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 12, 2013, 01:08:50 am
I don't care what anybody says, we need Waluigi....anybody? *sniffle*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: -Red- on June 12, 2013, 01:11:40 am
Fire Emblem? Promote Lyn to playable pls

(http://gameswalls.com/wallpapers/f/fire-emblem/lyn-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ExShadow on June 12, 2013, 01:15:27 am
I'm assuming we won't see any Chrono Trigger people
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 12, 2013, 01:16:38 am
Sigh, it is like Brawl all over again.

Back then, with the announcement of Snake and Sonic, everyone went bananas on their wishlists.

It is Deja vu again!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 12, 2013, 01:17:38 am
^ You're saying this like it's a surprise.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 12, 2013, 01:20:19 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordhayguyz_zpsc2b83acc.png[/avatar]Hey if Mega Man can be in there is literally no legitimate reason they can't also add Stephen Colbert and Pinkie Pie.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 12, 2013, 01:21:06 am
I want in this game

Awesome Possum
Nyal. L. H
Lennox Lewis
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 12, 2013, 01:24:15 am
My wishlist:
-M. Bison
-Heihachi Mishima
-Saiki
-Bullet *shot*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Blackmore on June 12, 2013, 01:25:00 am
I don't care what anybody says, we need Waluigi....anybody? *sniffle*

Let me join you in that corner.

- Hank Hill

Not gonna lie, I'd love this so much lol



I remember when someone actually made a move-list for him for MvC3, it was crazy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 01:28:06 am
They made Villager and WFT work they can make Ridley work if Bowser is allowed to have BS magical powers that let him change size why not Ridley
Because Metroid doesn't have magic! >:[

But to be serious for a moment, yes a smaller, grounded Ridley would work, though it might be disconcerting for a bit.

Dark Samus isn't a giant space dragon she's not as interesting to me and i know nothing about Dark Samus since i never played the full prime series because the first one kept getting a corrupt save file halfway through every time i tried to beat.
Man, you need to stop judging things that you haven't experienced and don't know anything about!

Plus, while Dark Samus may not be a giant space dragon, she is a giant radioactive mutant space jellyfish squeezed into a Samus-shaped shell!

Y'know, I'm surprise no one mentioned any of the Hunters as Metroid reps.
Personally, I'd rather forget that game. :-\
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Aldo on June 12, 2013, 01:30:20 am
No more than one Metroid character, no buy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 12, 2013, 01:34:43 am
it needs ninjas in this
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Janis L.C.V. on June 12, 2013, 01:38:35 am
Here is my wishlist.
-Joseph Joestar
-Garbodor
-Clone Zero
-The actual Nyarlathotep
-Justice
-Fritz
It's a copyright extravaganza!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 12, 2013, 01:39:58 am
-Clone Zero
I am suddenly overcome with an intense urge to profess an immense love for you. Commander Pringles needs to be in everything ever.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 12, 2013, 01:45:35 am
3DS stages
Ferox Arena (Fire Emblem: Awakening)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3496710/melee/3DS_SmashBros_scrnS01_19_E3.bmp)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=62697456&postcount=256

Wii U Images
(http://i2.minus.com/i9XCOMSaK8Oco.JPG)
http://minus.com/mbsPOuCycDrRiF
http://minus.com/l9XCOMSaK8Oco

Man, you need to stop judging things that you haven't experienced and don't know anything about!

Your right Other M is the only Metriod i've actually even played through and beaten i should be ashamed.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 01:48:19 am
OH MY GOD WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Cazaki on June 12, 2013, 01:57:05 am
No more than one Metroid character, no buy.

Get a grip. (unless joking)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: D00dman on June 12, 2013, 02:03:02 am
Wishlist:
Punisher (Not the marvel comics, this guy at the bottom)
(http://i851.photobucket.com/albums/ab73/GunFiyaPower/HAHA.png)
Waluigi (Yes I'm with you guys)
Daisy
King K. Rool
Probably Bluster Kong lol.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: vgma2 on June 12, 2013, 02:06:57 am
I personally hope for:
Shulk
Little Mac
Issac
Lloyd
And a Fire Emblem character that is either:
Female or...
Does not use a sword.

But judging from a previous post, it looks like an Awakening character will be likely to get in?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 12, 2013, 02:17:15 am
im just curious to see if they include ryu.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SoldierSunday on June 12, 2013, 02:19:17 am
Let's just hope they include teching throws.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 02:20:01 am
My wishlist:
-M. Bison
-Heihachi Mishima
-Saiki
-Bullet *shot*

*faceplam*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 12, 2013, 02:21:00 am
EDIT: Post above was deleted. >_<
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SoldierSunday on June 12, 2013, 02:43:51 am
You don't like the idea?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 12, 2013, 02:44:52 am
No, some guy before me deleted his post. >_<

But yeah teching throws just wouldn't really work for SSB.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TempesT on June 12, 2013, 02:53:13 am
I thought they had like a throw clash thing where if you tried throwing at the same time they both didn't work??
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SoldierSunday on June 12, 2013, 02:58:37 am
Maybe the techs can put both players at the distance a shine would.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 03:02:49 am
EDIT: Post above was deleted. >_<

So, how does it feel to laugh at the wrong person?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 12, 2013, 03:04:08 am
So, how does it feel to laugh at the wrong person?
I don't know why you think deleting your post is going to put my foot in my mouth. I explained what happened and it's cool now. You're just being an idiot. >:(

I thought they had like a throw clash thing where if you tried throwing at the same time they both didn't work??
I don't remember that at all.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 03:09:53 am
So, how does it feel to laugh at the wrong person?
I don't know why you think deleting your post is going to put my foot in my mouth. I explained what happened and it's cool now. You're just being an idiot. >:(

Well, laughing at my post was actually rude. That makes you a idiot, because of your action.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 03:17:43 am
XMasterOfMugenX911, don't delete your posts in an attempt to make others look foolish. This is not a request, it's an order.

The only one who ends up looking foolish is you, by the way.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SoldierSunday on June 12, 2013, 03:24:02 am
Back on the ssb topic, how do you guys feel about adding next gen characters into this game?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 03:27:54 am
XMasterOfMugenX911, don't delete your posts in an attempt to make others look foolish. This is not a request, it's an order.

The only one who ends up looking foolish is you, by the way.

You don't understand, do you? On one of my post, C.A.N laughed at it. I had to delete it. So, that doesn't make me foolish at all. The foolish one is the guy who called me foolish.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 12, 2013, 03:37:56 am
Feeling like you had to delete a post of yours because someone laughed at it?  Sounds plenty foolish to me.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 03:45:36 am
You don't understand, do you? On one of my post, C.A.N laughed at it. I had to delete it. So, that doesn't make me foolish at all. The foolish one is the guy who called me foolish.
I understand just fine. And the fact remains: do not delete your posts because someone laughed at your post in an attempt to make them look bad. Now drop the subject. This thread is about Smash, not who's calling you names.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Darkflare on June 12, 2013, 03:46:36 am
Yea, he should have reported the post for laughing instead.

 >:)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: -Red- on June 12, 2013, 03:51:37 am
So if that's her other M design... does that means ZSS with hueg b00bs?

Alright, saving for a Wii U, fuck the PS4.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Aldo on June 12, 2013, 03:52:54 am
lol this reminded me of Ohsky somehow.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on June 12, 2013, 03:58:45 am
You don't understand, do you? On one of my post, C.A.N laughed at it. I had to delete it. So, that doesn't make me foolish at all. The foolish one is the guy who called me foolish.
I understand just fine. And the fact remains: do not delete your posts because someone laughed at your post in an attempt to make them look bad. Now drop the subject. This thread is about Smash, not who's calling you names.

Dude, C.A.N's the one who started it. And yes, smart guy, I'm already aware this is about smash. I didn't made her feel bad on purpose. So, just stop talking to me and talk about smash. Good day to you.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 12, 2013, 04:02:05 am
You felt the need to facepalm at what was clearly a joke. That's totally not starting it. :omg:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 04:07:00 am
So, just stop talking to me and talk about smash.
I'm a moderator. It's my job to talk to people like you, to keep them on topic. I don't care who started it, because they only person behaving badly is you. Stop making this an issue, or else you will be banned from this thread.

So if that's her other M design... does that means ZSS with hueg b00bs?
And the beauty mark. And the... sigh... high heeled Zero Suit.

Fuck that game, ugh.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 12, 2013, 04:09:07 am
(http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/murabito/screen-1.jpg)

ouch
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 12, 2013, 04:09:27 am
But... what about THE BABY??!?!???!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 04:13:32 am
Samus's new move: when a metroid helper trophy appears, Samus yells THE BABY, and collapes into a heap while weeping. -15% (self)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SoldierSunday on June 12, 2013, 04:19:33 am
"THE BABY" - Pat
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 12, 2013, 04:25:34 am
Samus's new move: when a metroid helper trophy appears, Samus yells THE BABY, and collapes into a heap while weeping. -15% (self)

Should be +15 -15 is healing outside of stamina.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 12, 2013, 04:28:11 am
seeing the ferox arena I can say chrom is more than likely confirmed (Unfortunately) I would rather have Owain but I doubt that would ever happen being he is an optional child character :/. Hes still the best character ever.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 12, 2013, 04:52:45 am
owain owns bones but it would be dumb to have him and not one of the main charas
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 12, 2013, 04:58:02 am
yep I expect Chrom to follow suit like the others Marth roy ike. I still don't like it because I find Chrom to be the most boring Protaganist of the series. I would love Lyn though she needs to be playable.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xenomic on June 12, 2013, 05:10:16 am
Once again, I still say Chiki/Tiki, but it'll never happen despite that she seems to be a rather important character in the series. :<
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 12, 2013, 06:01:41 am
So if that's her other M design... does that means ZSS with hueg b00bs?

Alright, saving for a Wii U, fuck the PS4.
Please no ;___;
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 12, 2013, 06:02:47 am
I'm hoping that this time they can get over that copyright hurdle with Square Enix so that Geno or Mallow can be included in this one (Exor boss battle would be cool too). Also, hope we get King K. Rool. Long overdue addition to the Smash series IMO.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 12, 2013, 11:42:42 am
I'm sure everyone's joking with the "Master Chief for Brawl" suggestions, but anyway...

-Sonic got in to Brawl because Sega and Nintendo are best buds.
-Snake got in to Brawl because he's appeared on several Ninty consoles (NES, GBC, GCN), plus Konami literally begged Ninty to put him in since Melee.
-Mega Man got in because it's his NES design (AKA Nintendo Mega Man) and I honesty think Capcom couldn't give a fudge. Hey, it's better than fat ol' BB Mega Man :P

-Naruto and One Piece aren't Nintendo, contrary to popular belief. Hint, hint, MFG Database :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xanden on June 12, 2013, 03:01:12 pm
Mega man, Wii Fit trainer, and villager from Animal Crossing? Just yes. Yes. TAKE MY MONEY NINTENDO! TAKE IT NOW!!!

Also, namco might as well throw in Dig Dug and Pac-Man...

I'm sad though because I know Soild Snake won't be in this one.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on June 12, 2013, 04:55:45 pm
Can this thread be moved into the game section plz? I mean..this is not a fighting game etc...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 12, 2013, 04:57:48 pm
It's fighter/party game. Close enough.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 12, 2013, 05:04:19 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-4.png[/avatar]Yeah, let's not start that shit up again, hmm?  The thread's fine where it is.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 05:05:10 pm
Can this thread be moved into the game section plz? I mean..this is not a fighting game etc...
Are you serious.

No.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: GOH on June 12, 2013, 05:11:49 pm
We should ask Tempe-

*Shot*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on June 12, 2013, 05:14:05 pm
Can this thread be moved into the game section plz? I mean..this is not a fighting game etc...
Are you serious.

No.

If i would have been serious about that one i would have send a report :-) Of course i was joking and meant it as a poke to the old "is it a fighting game or not discussion" we had here often enough *cough*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 05:16:59 pm
Ah yes, sure, sure.

*COUGH*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 12, 2013, 05:53:42 pm
alright, brawl has a large character roster of around 30 characters, melee has like 25 characters and the n64 one has 12 characters, and that's all
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 05:57:02 pm
Thank you, drewski.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 12, 2013, 05:59:20 pm
drewski is credit to team
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: walt on June 12, 2013, 06:01:13 pm
The dummy with a heart of gold. He's kinda like MFG's Water Boy
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 12, 2013, 06:11:53 pm
thank you all, will this new super smash bros. game have a larger roster or will brawl still have a large roster?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 12, 2013, 06:15:16 pm
it might even be possible this new brawl has a larger roster while the older brawl had a large roster itself!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 12, 2013, 06:22:13 pm
i think this game will have a larger roster, but nintendo might not have enough character ideas.  i have some suggestions:
- little mac
- big mac from mcdonalds
- the bird from ice climbers
- waluigi
- princess daisy
- gene from godhand
- billy kane
- kane the wrestler
- citizen kane
- kane from command and conquer
- kart from mario kart
- excited biker from excitebike
- johnny bravo
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Cazaki on June 12, 2013, 06:22:24 pm
no matter what brawl still have a large roster
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Telosti on June 12, 2013, 06:28:26 pm
I can't wait til this game comes out. I already have the 1st 3 and I loved them.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on June 12, 2013, 06:29:23 pm
no matter what brawl still have a large roster
Especially when you count all the mods for it...

Seriously, there's a lot of character mods for Brawl. XD
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 12, 2013, 06:31:27 pm
how would anyone feel if a single digimon appear in a smash bros. game?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 12, 2013, 06:42:57 pm
i'd throw up
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Cobra Caddie on June 12, 2013, 06:45:58 pm
smash broths is a video games
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 12, 2013, 06:54:05 pm
i think this game will have a larger roster, but nintendo might not have enough character ideas.  i have some suggestions:
- little mac
- big mac from mcdonalds
- the bird from ice climbers
- waluigi
- princess daisy
- gene from godhand
- billy kane
- kane the wrestler
- citizen kane
- kane from command and conquer
- kart from mario kart
- excited biker from excitebike
- johnny bravo

epic this
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 12, 2013, 07:04:28 pm
smash broths is a video games

I know, but digimon rumble arena 2 acts like smash bros. more than the first one, because the first one is like smash bros. but with 2 players only despite the fact that it was released on the playstation, the 2nd one was released on the playstation 2, gamecube, and xbox
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: GOH on June 12, 2013, 07:26:43 pm
I'm dying here XD
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Darkflare on June 12, 2013, 07:31:38 pm
It's nice to know that if I'm having a bad day, I can always count on Drewski to make it better.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 12, 2013, 07:38:00 pm
^Epic this.  :laugh4:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 12, 2013, 07:41:33 pm
I can't be the only one that doesn't find his posts here funny :\
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on June 12, 2013, 07:45:16 pm
He's not necessarily funny but he is rather interesting in a strange way.

In tvtropes terms he's a cloud cuckoo lander.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 12, 2013, 08:14:00 pm
That site is still active?
thank you all, will this new super smash bros. game have a larger roster or will brawl still have a large roster?
Rumors say smaller roster, but fewer clones.
I hope Sonic makes a return
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SlySuavity on June 12, 2013, 08:16:53 pm
Barring clones, I'm willing to bet the deal-breaker is whether or not Sakurai still disapproves of a competitive scene.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 12, 2013, 08:21:34 pm
Thats why they brought Namco to keep him in check.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on June 12, 2013, 08:22:44 pm
Barring clones, I'm willing to bet the deal-breaker is whether or not Sakurai still disapproves of a competitive scene.

Why? The Smash community is absolutely horrible. They take a party game like this way too seriously to be healthy.

We should be more concerned about the game actually being fun rather than being tourney-worthy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on June 12, 2013, 08:25:31 pm
Barring clones, I'm willing to bet the deal-breaker is whether or not Sakurai still disapproves of a competitive scene.

Why? The Smash community is absolutely horrible. They take a party game like this way too seriously to be healthy.

We should be more concerned about the game actually being fun rather than being tourney-worthy.
Ah... But as Sakurai himself said at one point. People should play Smash how they want to...

...

Granted, I think he himself changed his tune with Brawl a bit.


But that is the beauty of Smash. You can play it either as a silly party game. Or a decent competitive fighter, with Nintendo characters, and a distinct engine.

Sure, you have to change some settings. But it's still possible.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 12, 2013, 08:52:33 pm
New character announced today at E3!
(http://i.imgur.com/i7LD1I8.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 12, 2013, 09:04:17 pm
I can't be the only one that doesn't find his posts here funny :\
You are literally the only person.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Ejectok on June 12, 2013, 09:37:12 pm
Hopefully there won't be no problems with online game-play. If that is fixed up, I expect this game to get a 9.5-10 rating
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 12, 2013, 09:54:08 pm
New character announced today at E3!
(http://i.imgur.com/i7LD1I8.jpg)
Here we go again.  Someone whip up a Cena KI intro panel.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 12, 2013, 10:16:25 pm
Let's put Toro the cat in. I'm sure Sony won't mind.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Seraphs Ares on June 12, 2013, 11:32:49 pm
I want to know if Nintendo is planning any DLC for this. Heck, I don't mind paying extra costumes for the characters. Mario -> Dr. Mario.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on June 13, 2013, 12:31:10 am
ProtoMan alternate costume for Mega Man. Calling it! I mean what other alternate can they give him other than weapon color change palette. That would be lame. Otherwise, Protoman costume for MM would totally own.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 13, 2013, 12:36:53 am
Probably the adapters from MM6 or MM7
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Omega on June 13, 2013, 12:52:00 am
Some people say that Pokemon Trainer isn't a whorty character but, i think it was decent back than. They could make a upgraded version with decent Pokemon's i guess. He is atleast better than Wİİ Trainer even if she is an interesting addition.

Also, John Cena makes no sence at all. İ still prefer a well fitting anime character. Nintendo should atleast include guest characters wich they made and succeeded with them back in the days. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Ejectok on June 13, 2013, 12:55:41 am
Some people say that Pokemon Trainer isn't a whorty character but, i think it was decent back than. They could make a upgraded version with decent Pokemon's i guess. He is atleast better than Wİİ Trainer even if she is an interesting addition.

Also, John Cena makes no sence at all. İ still prefer a well fitting anime character. Nintendo should atleast include guest characters wich they made and succeeded with them back in the days. 

John Cena was a fanmade parody. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Omega on June 13, 2013, 12:57:54 am
İ know that man. İt was sarcasm because of Wİİ Trainer.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 13, 2013, 01:00:54 am
wii trainer makes more sense than goku or whatever
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 13, 2013, 01:06:17 am
Makes more sense than Snake as it hardly needs an explanation, just another fun Nintendo character added in.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 13, 2013, 06:40:16 am
wii trainer makes more sense than goku or whatever
Anything makes more sense than Goku and etc.
I don't like when nigh 4th party chars are suggest into SSB or other party games.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on June 13, 2013, 02:59:48 pm
What's a 4th party?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: _Data_Drain_ on June 13, 2013, 03:14:54 pm
What's a 4th party?
Hm. I don't think it's an actual term... But I know what he means.

The idea of a character from an anime, or manga... Or anything outside of a video game makes little sense... And honestly would be pretty annoying.

Super Smash Bros is a video game character game... Not a console version of Mugen. (Unless you count modded versions of Brawl. That's basically like Mugen at this point... DBZ characters and all.)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 13, 2013, 03:18:11 pm
Basically whoever asked for Goku wants it to be like Super Smash Flash. In other words missing the point that its meant to be a celebration of Nintendo rather than Ultimate Showdown Of Ultimate Destiny. You got mugen for that shit, bro!

although part 2 joseph joestar would be funny
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 13, 2013, 03:38:05 pm
They need to get into contact with Hudson and add Bomberman.

After all, Hudson are really big with the "Mario Party" series.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on June 13, 2013, 04:33:13 pm
Didn't Hudson dissolve ages ago?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 13, 2013, 04:35:51 pm
In March 2012? Well damn.

Never mind that then.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hoshi on June 13, 2013, 06:21:53 pm
titlin: Make a template for Newcomers so people can start up all of that crazy shit that came from the UMVC3 banner template.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 13, 2013, 06:24:36 pm
I dunno, he regretted doing that one, I don't blame him
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hoshi on June 13, 2013, 06:25:51 pm
This is why he should do it. Life is full of regrets.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 13, 2013, 07:47:59 pm
i can't really make a template since this is more complicated. it's fairly easy to replicate though, just make some large text with arial (the trailer uses a different font, i don't know what it is but arial is passable), do some 3d rotation to match the trailer's style, add huge black border, add ink behind, grab a character's 3d model, overlay some instagrammy colors over it and you should be done.

in other news i actually like the villager being creepy/a shithead meme (when it's people drawing something funny not some idiot pasting impact text over a screenshot)
(http://i.imgur.com/UrXuO9Z.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9M7N1EO.png)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 13, 2013, 07:52:21 pm
What else is Villager gonna do with a golden axe he stole from the corpse of Death Adder?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 13, 2013, 07:54:17 pm
in other news i actually like the villager being creepy/a shithead meme (when it's people drawing something funny not some idiot pasting impact text over a screenshot)

Agreed.


Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 13, 2013, 08:01:05 pm
Wow, the Villager is a douche.

Then again, I think anyone would go crazy living in place like the town from animal crossing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 13, 2013, 08:58:45 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/5346c14a6628b43e82bc9c704ec31949/tumblr_moc7rzhx8T1qdcqv0o1_500.png) lol
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 13, 2013, 09:01:13 pm
Love that lady
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: c001357 on June 13, 2013, 09:04:16 pm
http://kotaku.com/no-more-tripping-in-the-new-smash-bros-513187770 (http://kotaku.com/no-more-tripping-in-the-new-smash-bros-513187770) thats one dumb mechanic down
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 1Ultima on June 13, 2013, 09:31:47 pm
:bison:



Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 13, 2013, 09:36:43 pm
http://kotaku.com/no-more-tripping-in-the-new-smash-bros-513187770 (http://kotaku.com/no-more-tripping-in-the-new-smash-bros-513187770) thats one dumb mechanic down

yeah, it got annoying for me, we wanted a free run not limited run
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 13, 2013, 09:54:32 pm
http://kotaku.com/no-more-tripping-in-the-new-smash-bros-513187770 (http://kotaku.com/no-more-tripping-in-the-new-smash-bros-513187770) thats one dumb mechanic down

Awesome, now can we ditch the Brawl air dodge and the entire sluggish system?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 13, 2013, 10:03:20 pm
The air dodge was one of the better features in this game IMO.
MC2, if you don't like SSB why are you posting in this thread? 
Stop being a douche.  >:(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 13, 2013, 10:06:20 pm
How was that being a Douche? Brawl's Air Dodge and Speed were problems same for the Hit Stun.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/13/e3-2013-no-plans-for-smash-bros-dlc-tripping-removed
- DLC is a possibility, but not currently in the cards
- Gameplay will be somewhere between Melee (fast and competitive) and Brawl (slower and casual)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on June 13, 2013, 10:15:33 pm
Brawl's air dodge wasn't a problem, it was a change. It's only a problem if you relied on the free defensive properties of wavedashing back in Melee, and thus it's only a problem if you played only Melee.
Its "speed" wasn't a problem, the physics/gravity was. It was floatier than SSB 64.

While I agree with MC2, if people want Melee 2 ASAP, we have Project M for that. This is an all new game altogether with not enough specifics made public to let us judge it properly right now.
All we know is there's no more tripping and Final Smashes are back.

EDIT: Based on what Girard said, I can safely assume this is a return to roots, or rather a "what Melee would've been with more time given" type of deal, which would prove to be very, VERY interesting considering the EXVS, TTT2 and SCV teams are working on it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: walt on June 13, 2013, 10:20:38 pm
I was an avid SSB back in the N64 days. Countless hours for real. But with Melee things got too speedy for me, and that put me off.

Is that speed what the broader Smash community really wants?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 13, 2013, 10:22:34 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordwhatever.png[/avatar]
The air dodge was one of the better features in this game IMO.
MC2, if you don't like SSB why are you posting in this thread? 
Stop being a douche.  >:(

It's just MC2's usual modus operandi.  Come into an otherwise civil thread, make a Big Deal about how he doesn't like X thing, then scamper off and never respond before anyone can ask him to explain his comments.  Pay him no mind.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: walt on June 13, 2013, 10:24:23 pm
No Snake ... :(

http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533
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Post by: Xenomic on June 13, 2013, 10:25:37 pm
I used to be used to Melee's speed, but playing it in recent days after years of not playing it made it extremely hard to play (that, and omg the button inputs are really REALLY tight compared to 64 and Brawl). I just couldn't handle it anymore lol...


Brawl was really too slow, and the Brawl+ or whatever mod that increased its speed was kinda nice (although it made things even more unbalanced I think in some regards...but that's my thoughts on it).


64 version I think had the best speed of the three...I think. Can't really say for sure, but at least it's faster than Brawl!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 1Ultima on June 13, 2013, 10:29:24 pm
No Snake ... :(

http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533

They said 'don't expect  a LOT'
We've had 1 3rd party character announced.
Stay hopeful.

But I'm more worried about the limits they'll have because of the 3DS.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Seraphs Ares on June 14, 2013, 12:01:24 am
- DLC is a possibility, but not currently in the cards
"Sakurai, think of all the money you can make!"

Well at least I got my Plumber-of-all-trades.

For some reason, the Wii Fit trainer reminds me of the Wire-Frame guys from Melee.
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Post by: drewski90 on June 14, 2013, 12:05:19 am
lol, let's wait to see what nintendo characters will appear this time as newcomers or old comers
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 14, 2013, 12:10:24 am
Waiting for Luigi's inevitable reveal as a secret character again. It's normal for him, even in....his own year :(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 14, 2013, 12:40:23 am
poor luigi : ( besides luigis mansion and this new super luigi thing he never starred in any good nintendo games.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 14, 2013, 12:50:36 am
No Snake ... :(

http://kotaku.com/dont-expect-a-lot-of-third-party-characters-in-the-nex-513203533
I really hope they keep him...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 14, 2013, 12:52:50 am
If anything, I hope he gets fixed if he's in the new Smash Bros.

He was considered really "OP" on Brawl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Suave 6-year old on June 14, 2013, 01:02:23 am
Lol, Snake was anything but OP haha. The Tier lists were nothing to go by either.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 14, 2013, 01:20:57 am
If he manages to get back, change him to Big Boss.  Fulton recoveries all over that shit.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 14, 2013, 01:28:08 am
big boss would make sense because mgs5 and because of the mgs3 3ds port
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 14, 2013, 01:39:33 am
Link and Samus are Skyward Sword and Other M respectively, which are prequels to the rest of the series.  Big Boss fits in even more by that logic.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 14, 2013, 01:43:47 am
Link and Samus are Skyward Sword and Other M respectively, which are prequels to the rest of the series.  Big Boss fits in even more by that logic.
Other M precedes only Fusion; the rest of the series takes place before it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 14, 2013, 01:45:29 am
So it's a sequel to previous Samus :beam:
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Post by: Jmorphman on June 14, 2013, 01:46:30 am
Never forget. :'(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Retro Respecter on June 14, 2013, 01:51:06 am
I am hoping for more Kirby stages. Super Smash Bros. Brawl didn't represent Kirby properly.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 14, 2013, 01:56:09 am
3 characters, 2 stages, and each character plays a fairly major role in the story mode.

Kirby did fine. And I say that as someone who both loves and mains Kirby.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 14, 2013, 01:59:55 am
Needs more Metroid yo.

And F-zero
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 14, 2013, 02:01:28 am
If we're going to have Port Town how about we actually have Port Town music :|
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 14, 2013, 02:08:50 am
And Norfair's default music was the Brinstar theme! What was up with that!? >:[

Oh well, that Norfair remix by Yuzo Koshiro made up for it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 14, 2013, 02:11:19 am
CALLING TO THE NIGHT WHAT IS THIS
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Post by: Berry on June 14, 2013, 02:20:04 am
If we're going to have Port Town how about we actually have Port Town music :|
Needs more SNES F-Zero love. Love the look of Port Town in that one.

Also shame songs in Brawl were limited to the stages of the same franchise. I hated Rumble Falls but it was the only stage that supported Bramble Blast. I really hope that isn't the same case in the new one. Some songs are just too good to be on bad stages.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 14, 2013, 02:28:51 am
I remember back in the Melee days I wanted Bianca City from MV, but that'll never happen.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: XANDERAC on June 14, 2013, 02:56:55 am
I have to wonder if they'll be replacing Toon Link at all this time due to his appearance on the 3DS stage, they may end up using his new model from the upcoming 3DS game, or who knows..they may just use him anyhow.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 14, 2013, 02:57:52 am
They'll probably have him not show up in the BG if he's being played as. Other games have done it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SoldierSunday on June 14, 2013, 03:05:40 am
Remember Neku? I think he could be a good character pick. Also, what mechanics would you like to see in this one? Crumple states? Dizzies, stun meters? Air throws?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 14, 2013, 03:08:07 am
The only other thing I want to see changed is that you can't spam Air dodging so much like you can in brawl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 14, 2013, 03:36:07 am
Remember Neku? I think he could be a good character pick. Also, what mechanics would you like to see in this one? Crumple states? Dizzies, stun meters? Air throws?
dream cancel
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Post by: Cazaki on June 14, 2013, 03:36:56 am
Remember Neku? I think he could be a good character pick.

What in the ham sandwich...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 14, 2013, 03:37:02 am
Remember Neku? I think he could be a good character pick. Also, what mechanics would you like to see in this one? Crumple states? Dizzies, stun meters? Air throws?
HD mode.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 14, 2013, 03:37:54 am
Remember Neku? I think he could be a good character pick. Also, what mechanics would you like to see in this one? Crumple states? Dizzies, stun meters? Air throws?
dream cancel

super cancel

off-topic: I've always wondered what anime is that banner and your icon from Jmorphman, I want to know please
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 14, 2013, 03:42:49 am
Gundam. Specifically: Mobile Suit Gundam, Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack, and Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin.

Bright Noa would make an excellent Smash character.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 14, 2013, 03:46:27 am
Gundam. Specifically: Mobile Suit Gundam, Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, Mobile Suit Gundam: Char's Counterattack, and Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin.

Bright Noa would make an excellent Smash character.

thanks for the reminder

anyway, i'm hoping waddle dee to be here
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 14, 2013, 03:47:25 am
rock being included got me hype as fuck, villager looks awesome, wii fit trainer looks like ownage material, and big boss would make alotta sense


a lack of clone characters would be great, or at least let them share slots with their respective precursor characters/give them different moves altogether (note: i dont have a problem with them, just leave those slots theyre taking up for other characters)


or leave them as is and add more characters, fuck it
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 14, 2013, 03:50:05 am
Marina Motherfucking Liteyears.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 14, 2013, 04:10:54 am
Less clones probably means only Wolf or Falco will return. If that's the case, I'm hoping Wolf is the veteran.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 14, 2013, 04:28:18 am
Sakurai's been quoted a bunch of times as saying that he doesn't want a huge roster just for the sake of having a huge roster, so I'm guessing that quite a few characters are going to end up on the cutting room floor to make way for the newcomers.  R.O.B. will probably be the first to go.  Ike will likely be replaced with what's-his-face from the new Fire Emblem, same with Lucario and the next flavor of the week Pokemon.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 14, 2013, 05:00:10 am
I dunno, ROB is a big part of the NES' history, Ike got pretty damn popular after Brawl, and Lucario......ok I dunno there.
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Post by: Aldo on June 14, 2013, 05:01:14 am
Zoroark > Lucario
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Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 14, 2013, 05:01:39 am
Zoroark > Lucario
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 14, 2013, 05:10:55 am
I dunno, ROB is a big part of the NES' history, Ike got pretty damn popular after Brawl, and Lucario......ok I dunno there.
I assume Ike is bound to get replaced by Chrom. I assume that new Mewtwo form would replace Lucario.

Also I want Falco gone, he's good but I think it's easier to work with Wolf as he can be changed more to rival Fox. We need more villains as well.

Also is there a Metroid character that would work well here? I would prefer Ridley as a boss myself.

Any characters you'd guys want to see gone?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Tyrant Belial on June 14, 2013, 05:17:55 am
Falco is either gonna get removed or reworked to be less like Fox. Wolf has a higher chance of staying since he does actually have a different enough moveset to easily be changed into a non-clone.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: XANDERAC on June 14, 2013, 05:26:17 am
I'm wondering if they still plan on using Zelda in her Skyward Sword look, they'll have to redesign that uniform sheik wears quite a bit I'd imagine, I think it may look strange otherwise.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nexus Games on June 14, 2013, 05:28:01 am
if gannondorf returns i wish he would not play like captain falcon i not like that let him use his sword
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 14, 2013, 05:31:49 am
Falco and Lucas. Like Bowswer, change Ganondorf.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 14, 2013, 05:47:17 am
Zoroark > Lucario

I respectfully disagree.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 14, 2013, 06:04:58 am
Yo. Would anyone like to see the return of the Smash Dojo? Just want to hear opinions of it and people's own personal experience with it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 14, 2013, 06:06:18 am
That would be awesome. I was so hyped whenever it updated.
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Post by: Darkflare on June 14, 2013, 06:26:44 am
Also is there a Metroid character that would work well here? I would prefer Ridley as a boss myself.

Prime Hunter characters?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 14, 2013, 06:38:33 am
Also is there a Metroid character that would work well here? I would prefer Ridley as a boss myself.
I can think of a few.

Anthony "Remember me?" Higgs: Has a really big plasma rifle, a machine gun, and a small ice gun. Probably could work as a character, I guess. But ugh... Other M.
Dark Samus: different enough from Samus to work, in both looks and powerset. Can fire a shrapnely beam, a cloud of Phazon that traps and envelops enemies, a dive bomb attack, can raise pillars of crystallized Phazon, and can create clones of herself.
Rundas: the ice dude from Prime 3. Can do a bunch of ice stuff, like Iceman style ice surfing, and... I dunno, various kinds of ice blasts. Ice pillars too. Of the three Bounty Hunters in Prime 3, he seems the most likely, as he's relatively more important than the others. But who knows.
Ghor: the cybernetic robot guy from Prime 3. Bunch of weapons. Claws, lasers, plasma cannon, multi-missles, boosters.
Gandrayda: the shapeshifting bounty hunter from Prime 3. Aside from shapeshifting, she can throw electric orbs and create electric blades. Her shapeshifting may make her more likely than Ghor, but I don't think any of the Prime 3 hunters have much of a shot.
anyone from Prime: Hunters: no. I seriously, seriously doubt it. Maaaybe Sylux.
Armstrong Huston: ahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 14, 2013, 06:47:45 am
Rundas: the ice dude from Prime 3. Can do a bunch of ice stuff, like Iceman style ice surfing, and... I dunno, various kinds of ice blasts. Ice pillars too. Of the three Bounty Hunters in Prime 3, he seems the most likely, as he's relatively more important than the others. But who knows.

Yeah I myself want this guy to make it in
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: vgma2 on June 14, 2013, 07:15:32 am
Yo. Would anyone like to see the return of the Smash Dojo? Just want to hear opinions of it and people's own personal experience with it.

Absolutely loved the dojo back then; would love it if it made a return.
Checked it every single weekday for the new updates back then. The little comments Sakurai made were fun to read.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 14, 2013, 07:22:15 am
Never got to experience it myself. Didn't have a computer nor internet at the time... glad I didn't though, don't think 13 year old me could stand the hype.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 14, 2013, 07:25:28 am
relevant

(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/560/354/6ef.gif)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 14, 2013, 08:43:51 am
Since a lot of people are making character suggestions, I'll just put mine here:

Ghirahim.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 14, 2013, 01:56:07 pm
Isn't smashbros.com (http://www.smashbros.com/) pretty much Dojo? It sort of looks like it.

Mmh, I had to rely on someone with internet access back when Dojo was something.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 14, 2013, 04:12:06 pm
Am I the only one that would like to see a Hybrid doge system in the air? Infinite Brawl dodges if no directions were applied, Go into helpless state if a Melee (directional) dodge is used.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Omega on June 14, 2013, 06:42:29 pm
İ really hope they make a good and well fitting story for all characters. İ don't know if it was announced or mentioned but, team attacks would be great.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hoshi on June 14, 2013, 07:13:24 pm
İ really hope they make a good and well fitting story for all characters. İ don't know if it was announced or mentioned but, team attacks would be great.
That would make this game a PARTY game. This isn't a PARTY game.  Is the topic title SUPER PARTY BROS?! I think NOT! Smash Bros is a FIGHTING GAME. Fox will be god tier, you'll see
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Omega on June 14, 2013, 07:23:42 pm
Let me correct it than: "İ hope to see a party mode included wich allows players to have team attacks."
They don't have to include it. İ am alright with that. Just my opinion really.

Each new game of the series needs something new. Otherwise it would be like making and upgrading a current, excisting mugen roster with some characters taken out and replaced with a few new characters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on June 14, 2013, 07:45:25 pm
Hoshi was just making fun of the super serious competitive Smash community.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 14, 2013, 08:49:03 pm
Each new game of the series needs something new. Otherwise it would be like making and upgrading a current, excisting mugen roster with some characters taken out and replaced with a few new characters.

This is what I'm worried about.  Right now it looks like a carbon copy of Brawl with a few new characters.  I would actually be totally okay with recycling Brawl's roster with minimal new characters if they remade the gameplay from the ground up.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 14, 2013, 09:50:32 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-4.png[/avatar]How can you possibly make that assumption?  We have seen almost no gameplay, and what we have seen is cut up and framed to serve as promotional footage to showcase the characters themselves, not the mechanics.  There is no rational reason for thinking we know anything about exactly how the gameplay functions.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 14, 2013, 09:56:28 pm
Well, my dad works at Nintendo and he says that it's just a reskinned version of Brawl. And also that Other M is not canon.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 14, 2013, 10:04:34 pm
How can you possibly make that assumption?  We have seen almost no gameplay, and what we have seen is cut up and framed to serve as promotional footage to showcase the characters themselves, not the mechanics.  There is no rational reason for thinking we know anything about exactly how the gameplay functions.

The speed and pace look the same, the air dodge is the same as Brawl's, several stages look straight up re skinned from Brawl, the HUD is identical, etc.  64->Melee->Brawl all had unique different looks, this just looks like a hack/mod of Brawl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 14, 2013, 10:09:59 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordlamp_zpsd09305c3.png[/avatar]^And again I have to point out that we have a grand total of maybe 90 seconds of actual gameplay to go on, and none of it in clips of longer than one or two seconds.  It's ludicrous to assume anything about the gameplay, good or bad, at this stage.


In other news (read:  actual news):  No cross-platform play between Wii U and 3DS versions, but also a vague hint at "customized characters" that is not alts.
http://www.destructoid.com/smash-bros-will-not-feature-3ds-and-wii-u-cross-play-256312.phtml
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Post by: Prototype God on June 14, 2013, 10:49:35 pm
^And again I have to point out that we have a grand total of maybe 90 seconds of actual gameplay to go on, and none of it in clips of longer than one or two seconds.  It's ludicrous to assume anything about the gameplay, good or bad, at this stage.

We do have game play though. In a clip about the size of a minute.
Theres the developer direct, on the homepage, and theres a video shown inside the nintendo booths.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-hPRocg8Yw
It seems faster than brawl, but still not as fast as melee. Wasn't this posted in the thread already? I mean, of course its still a bit early to judge the game, but we can still have a decent idea where the game is at this point.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 14, 2013, 10:53:59 pm
Indeed, there's enough normal gameplay to form a first impression, and right now that first impression is not winning me over.  But we have a whole year ahead of us to change my mind.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: XANDERAC on June 14, 2013, 11:15:47 pm
On a somewhat off-topic note, has anyone ever played Super Smash Bros Crusade? It's a fangame, I only found it recently, I don't know how long it's been out, but what I wanted to say was that if you ever wondered what a small Ridley would play like, I guess it's an interesting little way to kinda see what it might be like. Just in case you're curious.. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqghnOv1Cgo)

The lack of cross-play is disappointing, but not a terrible thing for me, hopefully this means that there will be enough things about both versions to make them unique from one another, I am curious if there is at least some sort of linking they add later, maybe for unlockables and whatnot, probably not, but it would make it a good reason to own both for sure!

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 14, 2013, 11:22:26 pm
I've tried Crusade. Its still got a lot of 3rd party stuff but its more well put together then Smash Flash.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 14, 2013, 11:24:09 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordballoon2_zps6530429e.png[/avatar]
We do have game play though. In a clip about the size of a minute.
Theres the developer direct, on the homepage, and theres a video shown inside the nintendo booths.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-hPRocg8Yw
It seems faster than brawl, but still not as fast as melee. Wasn't this posted in the thread already? I mean, of course its still a bit early to judge the game, but we can still have a decent idea where the game is at this point.
I actually didn't know about that.  I guess I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 14, 2013, 11:29:56 pm
I've tried Crusade. Its still got a lot of 3rd party stuff but its more well put together then Smash Flash.
Seconded. However, the animations in Crusade are a lot more stiff the in Smash Flash 2.
And it seems that Crusade is based of Melee, since Final Smashes were absent in the version I played...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 14, 2013, 11:44:03 pm
the one I played had final Smashes. Hell, Ryu had two different ones you could select on the character select menu.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: XANDERAC on June 15, 2013, 12:55:30 am
A neat thing they had was even the air dodges are selectable to be more like melee or more like brawl. I don't know if this has come up yet, but what controller do you usually use to play Smash Bros? Personally for me, I've always been best with a gamecube controller, I don't know how well this new Wii U controller would feel with smash bros, so I'm probably just going to end up buying one of those Wii remote adapters for gamecube controllers.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 15, 2013, 02:16:19 am
So Sakurai says nobody saw the Wii Fit Trainer coming eh?  WELL HE'S WRONG. (http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/928518-super-smash-bros-brawl/43256012)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 15, 2013, 06:35:57 am
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/p261x260/5866_515218688543830_1727195834_n.jpg)

i wish
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 15, 2013, 07:46:31 am


dont know if this was posted, but the new charas look like trouble, specifically villager and trainer, my gawd
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 15, 2013, 10:42:11 am
the one I played had final Smashes. Hell, Ryu had two different ones you could select on the character select menu.
What? Where did you found it? o_O
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 15, 2013, 11:25:26 am
Sometimes /vg/ does things I'm very okay with.

(http://i.imgur.com/5gR345Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 15, 2013, 11:27:50 am
(http://i.imgur.com/5gR345Z.jpg)
100 times THIS!
Though I do wonder what her Final Smash could be...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 15, 2013, 11:37:41 am
(http://i.imgur.com/J4gpYKD.png)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Cazaki on June 15, 2013, 04:33:21 pm
Pretty clever tactic by adding a new photo to the Miiverse page everyday. Influences people to use it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: c001357 on June 15, 2013, 05:06:50 pm
in other news i actually like the villager being creepy/a shithead meme (when it's people drawing something funny not some idiot pasting impact text over a screenshot

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/a333a516eb875487f4bbeabac9c386d5/tumblr_moee7zg6yf1rgzubio1_500.gif) (http://fanfictionimg.tumblr.com/post/52965375869/villager-prevents-the-terrorist-attacks-against) lol
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hoshi on June 15, 2013, 05:23:15 pm
Sometimes /vg/ does things I'm very okay with.
http://i.imgur.com/5gR345Z.jpg
I'm not one to start suggesting characters, But I want this so freaking bad.  She'd make a great grappling character.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 15, 2013, 05:32:44 pm
http://25.media.tumblr.com/a333a516eb875487f4bbeabac9c386d5/tumblr_moee7zg6yf1rgzubio1_500.gif
Oh god, I can't stop laughing for some reason!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 15, 2013, 06:03:10 pm
Pretty clever tactic by adding a new photo to the Miiverse page everyday. Influences people to use it.
yeah but that same picture is added to the main smashbros.com page as well
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on June 15, 2013, 06:11:17 pm
Sometimes /vg/ does things I'm very okay with.
http://i.imgur.com/5gR345Z.jpg
I'm not one to start suggesting characters, But I want this so freaking bad.  She'd make a great grappling character.
Well technically it wouldn't be the first time Treasure would be represented in a Smash title.
Shit, where's my playable Saki with Ruffian Mode Final Smash? Then again, they'd be more likely to bring in stuff from S&P Star Successor than the first game and Mischief Makers. ;_;
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 15, 2013, 09:57:18 pm
Saki with Ruffian Mode Final Smash

yes lawd
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Wolf on June 16, 2013, 07:09:11 am
wow the amount of wii fit trainer's porn is increasing rapidly. these people sure work fast
Spoiler: somewhat NSFW (click to see content)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on June 16, 2013, 09:48:19 am
(http://i.imgur.com/orxqkRI.png)

(awkward laughter)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hoshi on June 16, 2013, 09:59:59 am
http://i.imgur.com/orxqkRI.png
LOL'd so fucking hard. You have no idea
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 16, 2013, 11:19:20 am
What next?  Emi, Best Foot Forward?  Rin, Armed and Dangerous?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 16, 2013, 11:36:50 am
OOH YEAH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGCdUiy9YIw
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: -Red- on June 16, 2013, 11:50:24 am
(http://i.imgur.com/orxqkRI.png)

(awkward laughter)

Fucking hot.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 16, 2013, 11:58:53 am
LOL, where do you actually get the backgrounds from?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on June 16, 2013, 12:06:18 pm
I didn't make that
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 16, 2013, 12:11:10 pm
*sadface*
Eitherway, I just invented a new game: "Make a SSB moveset to the 'fake announcement' characters, which were posted in this thread, including their Final Smash and special abbilites".
READY?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on June 16, 2013, 12:38:09 pm
HANAKO

B: Book throw
B >: I'vegottagodosomething! (running dash)
B V: I-I've messed up everything! (stuns the opponent ala Jigglypuff's Sing)
B ^: Pool Cue vault
Final Smash: Get out of my room, get out of my room, get out of my room...! (everyone close by gets sent flying)

Her "unique system" would involve slowly developing anxiety when she's idle until she has a panic attack and has to be tended to by The Nurse. Try timing your panic attacks correctly during high-risks moves like an enemy's Final Smash to prevent damage and stall out items with a long duration.

EDIT: changed B^
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xhominid on June 16, 2013, 01:03:09 pm
OOH YEAH

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGCdUiy9YIw

I rather take Hank then that bitch!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on June 16, 2013, 01:04:23 pm
Do you kiss your grandmother with that mouth?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xhominid on June 16, 2013, 01:20:43 pm
wow the amount of wii fit trainer's porn is increasing rapidly. these people sure work fast
Spoiler: somewhat NSFW (click to see content)

Should have mentioned this earlier as well...

Yeah, I was EXTREMELY surprised at the insane number of images that came up after the Wii Fit Trainer was announced...

     Posted: June 16, 2013, 01:21:26 pm
Do you kiss your grandmother with that mouth?

I hate Peggy Hill, I can't really contain myself there.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 16, 2013, 03:00:35 pm
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/dcc0d89d3eedbfebb1af5944b0f7df7b/tumblr_moadxczI1r1rahl3eo1_500.png)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 16, 2013, 03:07:11 pm
how does somebody do that? photoshopping?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 16, 2013, 03:11:38 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordlamp_zpsd09305c3.png[/avatar]For the rest of them, yes.  But that Shrek one is real.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 16, 2013, 05:42:41 pm
i made a couple horrible wrestling injokes
(http://i.imgur.com/oRHhmT2.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/G5XfbmC.png)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on June 16, 2013, 05:47:33 pm
That last one....:no:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: mh777 on June 16, 2013, 05:48:46 pm
I've got a ticket with my name on it to the hell of hells for laughing at that Owen Hart one.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 16, 2013, 06:12:52 pm
i made a couple horrible wrestling injokes
Where do you have the font and the background from?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 16, 2013, 06:15:52 pm
titiln you bastard i shouldnt be laughing at that last one but that fucking pun man
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 16, 2013, 06:17:54 pm
Where do you have the font and the background from?
arial, the background is a simple gradient, i overlaid some generic colorful wallpaper over it though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 16, 2013, 06:19:52 pm
Where do you have the font and the background from?
arial, the background is a simple gradient, i overlaid some generic colorful wallpaper over it though.
What? H-How could you make the Arial look that good?
That can't be Arial! Arial never could look that awesome. That's blasphemy! That's madness!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: D'Evil on June 16, 2013, 06:20:41 pm
Owen...
 :gonk:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Cazaki on June 16, 2013, 06:49:59 pm
That Owen one. C'mon son.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 16, 2013, 06:58:27 pm
That's just wrong.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 16, 2013, 07:34:30 pm
I'm curious what SSB4 is going to do with the Events mode.
IMO, Brawl's Events mode was lacking.  Most of the events weren't memorable, creative or difficult even on the hardest difficulties.  Most of Melee's events were substantially more difficult with cooler themes and had loads of originality.

I hope they implement more creativity and ideas with this Events mode.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 16, 2013, 08:34:41 pm
i made a couple horrible wrestling injokes
(http://i.imgur.com/oRHhmT2.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/G5XfbmC.png)

hell with gasoline onesies
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 16, 2013, 11:52:47 pm
(https://store.fakku.net/image/cache/data/Shirts/Villager/villager-was-so-cash-700x600.jpg)

fakku store is selling the villager shirt for $20 12 bucks! (https://store.fakku.net/Villager-Comes-to-Town!)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 17, 2013, 04:06:24 am
SSB4 Villager and Home Run Derby Christopher are the perfect duo.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 17, 2013, 05:31:28 am
nsfw, I can't get tired of this shit.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 17, 2013, 07:52:56 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordthrone.png[/avatar]Yes please.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1010043_623900137623122_961627781_n.png)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 17, 2013, 07:54:42 pm
*Groose Theme*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 17, 2013, 08:05:43 pm
plsnintendopls
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 17, 2013, 08:39:49 pm
A neat thing they had was even the air dodges are selectable to be more like melee or more like brawl. I don't know if this has come up yet, but what controller do you usually use to play Smash Bros? Personally for me, I've always been best with a gamecube controller, I don't know how well this new Wii U controller would feel with smash bros, so I'm probably just going to end up buying one of those Wii remote adapters for gamecube controllers.

I use the Wii+chuck combo the most, but I've dabbled in playing with a PS2 controller.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Saohc on June 18, 2013, 09:10:11 pm
I haven't read through the whole thread, but if Ness isn't going to be in...

Then Sakurai doesn't really care about keeping the "Original 12" together. It's been like that since SSB64.
Also, the lack of GameCube controller compatibility with the Wii U makes this a problem. But the Wii U's regular controller shouldn't be too hard to adjust to. If I ever get a Wii U, that is.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 18, 2013, 09:18:35 pm
You can buy an adaptor for the GCN controller to Wii U on Amazon for a little under 20 bucks.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Saohc on June 18, 2013, 09:32:21 pm
You can buy an adaptor for the GCN controller to Wii U on Amazon for a little under 20 bucks.
But I doubt that SSBWiiU would be compatible with a GameCube controller. Unless it's a hidden surprise, just like custom music in the PS3 version of Batman:Arkham City.

Anyways, in terms of character speculation choices...

I would say someone from killer7, but I don't think that would work out. killer7 needs more love, though. I think Suda51 said he would like for Travis Touchdown to be in Super Smash Bros.

Shinji Ikari: Highly unlikely, but it's just for fun and laughs. His movelist would probably consist of angsting and whining. Final Smash is EVA 01 in Berserk mode.

Anyone from Tales of Graces or the Tales of series: It's Namco Bandai, so it's a given.

Anyone from the Soul seriesAgain, Namco.










Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 18, 2013, 09:34:58 pm
^I was just going to say the same thing.
GC's controllers should work fine on SSB4. 
The developers are great at catering to gamers and the classic gameplay.
Also, I wonder what the gameplay would be like on Wii U's gamepad?  :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 18, 2013, 09:35:53 pm
Sakurai said not to expect many or possibly any third-party characters aside from Mega Man. I think Snake and Sonic have a decent shot of returning, Sonic moreso, but anyone beyond that seems pretty unlikely at this time. But who knows what the future might bring.

     Posted: June 18, 2013, 09:36:53 pm
Also, I wonder what the gameplay would be like on Wii U's gamepad?  :P
MASTER HAND MODE
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Saohc on June 18, 2013, 09:37:19 pm
Again, it's all just speculation. Just keep Ness in and I'll be satisfied.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 18, 2013, 09:38:14 pm
As far as character speculation goes:
i figure the rest of the newcomers are mostly going to be weird hella left field things since all the obvious characters are already in the game
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Janis L.C.V. on June 18, 2013, 09:44:44 pm
Shinji Ikari: Highly unlikely, but it's just for fun and laughs. His movelist would probably consist of angsting and whining. Final Smash is EVA 01 in Berserk mode.
Or the sick stuff anamochi made for his Mugen conversion like having a minigun, eyelasers and poorly done effects on his knife attack while screaming as if he were dying.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 18, 2013, 09:45:38 pm
if smash brothers wii u supports the classic and classic pro controllers then it'll support the gc adapter as well
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Ejectok on June 18, 2013, 09:46:42 pm
Someone link me to this adapter you speak of... I never heard of it..
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 18, 2013, 09:48:04 pm
Then Sakurai doesn't really care about keeping the "Original 12" together. It's been like that since SSB64.
Oh he does, which is why we'll never see that piece of shit Jigglypuff gone. DAMN YOU SAKURAI

But I doubt that SSBWiiU would be compatible with a GameCube controller. Unless it's a hidden surprise, just like custom music in the PS3 version of Batman:Arkham City.
Even if it doesn't I'm sure people will make GC adapters specifically for Smash bros.



Also here's this
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/17/4438642/super-smash-bros-director-masahiro-sakurai-character-selection
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 18, 2013, 09:50:23 pm
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BS520SG that's the adapter.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 18, 2013, 09:51:10 pm
Pretty much, IMO making an adapter for the sake of SSB4 is guaranteed to earn sales. :laugh4:
Someone link me to this adapter you speak of... I never heard of it..
Why didn't you just google it? (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=wii+u+gamecube+adapter)  :S
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Saohc on June 18, 2013, 09:51:51 pm
Shinji Ikari: Highly unlikely, but it's just for fun and laughs. His movelist would probably consist of angsting and whining. Final Smash is EVA 01 in Berserk mode.
Or the sick stuff anamochi made for his Mugen conversion like having a minigun, eyelasers and poorly done effects on his knife attack while screaming as if he were dying.
That was an atrocity. Just as bad as the N64 game they made. Of course, it doesn't beat Rebuild of Evangelion 3.0. Anno, you disappoint me.

On-topic:
I'm sure that the adapter is unofficial, I take it?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 18, 2013, 09:55:16 pm
Most adapters are usually third party.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: D'Evil on June 18, 2013, 10:09:03 pm
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/ba7adbd4bd43339e901d6fd72dc30f5a/tumblr_moexceUioA1s3ack1o1_500.jpg)

Day one buy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: XANDERAC on June 18, 2013, 10:49:07 pm
The adapter should work since there's a video of some guy saying that he's played with the gamecube controller to play Monster Hunter and Sonic Racing Transformed on the Wii U fine, I'll probably get one either way, it's cheaper than having to buy a classic controller for the Wii U if it works for me at least.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 12:17:45 am
I still don't get Wii Fit Trainer. Seems like such an odd choice, and really unfitting to a fighting game. I don't care how much you modify it to be a fighting game character, Wii Fit is not really a video game. If it was meant to be a joke, I find it one that lands flat on its pale face. Same could be said for the villager, but I feel that many Animal Crossing fans are going to be glad that Animal Crossing finally got a non-stage, non-item appearance in Smash Bros.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 12:24:12 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Fit#Reception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Fit#Reception)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 12:28:20 am
I still don't get Wii Fit Trainer. Seems like such an odd choice, and really unfitting to a fighting game. I don't care how much you modify it to be a fighting game character, Wii Fit is not really a video game. If it was meant to be a joke, I find it one that lands flat on its pale face. Same could be said for the villager, but I feel that many Animal Crossing fans are going to be glad that Animal Crossing finally got a non-stage, non-item appearance in Smash Bros.
(http://i.imgur.com/LEtITMn.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 19, 2013, 12:31:57 am
It's probably worth pointing out that ROB was never a video game character, and that 'Mr. Game & Watch' never actually existed before Smash Bros.  They've always played it loose in regards to things like that.

More to the point, Smash Bros isn't really about Nintendo characters as much as it is Nintendo itself.  And Wii Fit is one of the more successful new things they've done in recent years.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 12:32:45 am
also wii fit trainer's announcement was well received if the amount of porn drawn by now is any indication
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 19, 2013, 12:34:51 am
There's too much Wii Fit Trainer X Villager porn these days.

It's funny actually.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 12:36:27 am
Leaving out nintendo related characters that are not not directly from a videogame (by some definition) but being totally cool with characters not by nintendo at all is also a bit hypocritical.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 12:43:39 am
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Fit#Reception (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_Fit#Reception)
If reception was what makes decisions on character selection, then Earthbound characters shouldn't have even been in the first Smash Bros. I've heard so many mixed feelings on Earthbound to where it's more of a cult following than a mainstream game series like Mario or Zelda. Megaman made it primarily because of popularity, and the fact that even though he is a Capcom character, he had his start back in the days of the NES, and that popularity continues despite the fact that Capcom has trashed him to where they won't listen to ANYONE with regards to bringing back any of his cancelled future games. This may also hint to the idea that Nintendo may be trying to buy the rights to Megaman from Capcom (One man's wild guess/opinion). Back to Wii Fit Trainer, Wii Fit was mini-games meant for exercise, not an adventure game like those of many of the characters that made it into previous titles (I know Fire Emblem, Pokemon, and Earthbound/Mother are RPGs, but still), which makes the selection even more confusing. As for R.O.B. being in Brawl, I guess it was Nintendo's idea of trying to fix what they did wrong with R.O.B. back in the old days, but failed.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on June 19, 2013, 12:44:10 am
Gimme any Punch Out character that isn't Mike Tyson in this and I'll be happy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 12:46:01 am
Nice job missing the point with that wall of text.  Quick, name a console video game.  Whatever it is, Wii Fit outsold it.  Wii Fit Trainer is a better selling character than whoever you want in.

That very article said:
Wii Fit is currently the third best selling console game in history (among games not packaged with a console) with 22.67 million copies sold as of March 2012.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 12:47:55 am
Gimme any Punch Out character that isn't Mike Tyson in this and I'll be happy.
Disco Kid pls
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 12:51:55 am
wii fit sold a ridiculous amount. wii fit trainer is a recognizable character by extension. what's hard to understand about this.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 12:52:18 am
If we're going by sales for selection, same argument. There are franchises with cult followings that get the shaft, while an exercise game that is third best selling gets a fighter made from it? Nintendo gets more confusing by the second with this logic. The trailer made it hard to take her seriously, and yet it's well received? I want to say Nintendo logic, but it seems like it's Nintendo logic within the Nintendo logic.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Blackmore on June 19, 2013, 12:53:06 am
That, and Wii Fit Trainer is just a wacky inclusion in a game. They're just having fun with it and being creative with the roster choices, as well as defying fan expectations in the process.

talk shit get fit
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 12:54:35 am
what are the franchises with cult followings that are getting blatantly ignored
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 12:55:14 am
If we're going by sales for selection, same argument. There are franchises with cult followings that get the shaft, while an exercise game that is third best selling gets a fighter made from it? Nintendo gets more confusing by the second with this logic. The trailer made it hard to take her seriously, and yet it's well received? I want to say Nintendo logic, but it seems like it's Nintendo logic within the Nintendo logic.

you arent making much sense guv.

either you think sales are important or you think they are not, you are going "sales shouldnt matter" and at the same time "Cult followings are more important"
Either they matter or dont, cult followings that YOU care about is not a specific selection trait for anything.
If wiifit is the third most sold thing for wii, then it has acchieved important status by sheer force of numbers.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 12:56:03 am
The trailer made it hard to take her seriously, and yet it's well received?

Yes because most of the general population has a sense of humor.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:03:42 am
Major example, Earthbound/Mother. Fans petition and request the games be on the Virtual Console, and they will never see that happen. Was the reception/total sales of the only Earthbound game released in the US really THAT bad? Plus, no sign of either Ness or Lucas so far (I know it's early, but if they can easily say certain Mario, Zelda, and other characters are in, why can't they make the same promise to the Earthbound series?).

Cult followings may not be large groups, and the sales of those games aren't usually very large. In other words, popularity =/= sales. I think someone is not fully understanding that concept.

Humor in fighting games? I was certain they were meant to be taken super seriously. If they were meant to be comedies, then take away every serious character in the roster. Zelda series? Too serious, get them out.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 01:05:30 am
Also why make such a huge deal out of this?
Humor in fighting games? I was certain they were meant to be taken super seriously.
Gon
Dr. B
Cyber Akuma
Dan Hibiki
Mokap
Friendships/Babilities
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 01:06:35 am
There are two Earthbound/Mother characters in Brawl.  There is only one Wii Fit character in Smash U.  Furthermore Earthbound is going to virtual console.

Humor in fighting games? I was certain they were meant to be taken super seriously. If they were meant to be comedies, then take away every serious character in the roster. Zelda series? Too serious, get them out.

You are absolutely terrible at this whole making a point thing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on June 19, 2013, 01:07:59 am
Humor in fighting games? I was certain they were meant to be taken super seriously.
Someone really needs to play the Power Instinct and Tekken games.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 01:09:38 am
i still dont see how nintendo not releasing a snes game on virtual console makes it so confusing that they put a wii fit character in smash bros. Its literally two worlds apart and nothing in common.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 19, 2013, 01:16:24 am
what are the franchises with cult followings that are getting blatantly ignored
I want to know this too. Pretty much most franchises that aren't playable, they included as items and assist trophies.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 19, 2013, 01:17:22 am
You can't keep dealing in absolutes when you talk about this. Different things are important for different reasons.  Sometimes it's about iconic figures, which is where we get Mario and Link. Sometimes it's about popularity, which is why some Pokemon and Fire Emblem characters get cycled out of the roster in favor of a fresher face.  You can't say 'X character made it in because of X reason, therefore every other character must fulfill that exact reason.' It doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:21:30 am
There are two Earthbound/Mother characters in Brawl.  There is only one Wii Fit character in Smash U.  Furthermore Earthbound is going to virtual console.

Humor in fighting games? I was certain they were meant to be taken super seriously. If they were meant to be comedies, then take away every serious character in the roster. Zelda series? Too serious, get them out.

You are absolutely terrible at this whole making a point thing.
Brawl, not this new one. Also, I think my point's pretty clear, you're just failing to grasp it. Humor in a video game works if it's story, not in character selection or traits. Wario was never meant to be taken seriously, which makes him an exception to this rule. If something/someone is meant to be taken seriously, especially in a fighting environment, then make it so, don't write him/her/it to where people should refuse the existence.

Major example, Earthbound/Mother.
a franchise that has been represented since the first game. start making sense, guy.
In the US? Doubt it. Also, it's probably the only game that was released in the US, and not the rest of the franchise, am I right? True fans of the series enjoyed all three games, not just the SNES game. If it was only the SNES game that had the love, then Lucas shouldn't have been in the US release of Brawl, which would have meant that Mother 3 got snubbed TWICE by Nintendo for a US release.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 01:22:19 am
wat
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:22:50 am
Fuck it, I'm dealing with morons.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 01:22:57 am
They didn't leave Roy out of Melee when NA didn't get the Fire Emblem game he was in.  You should probably stop before you expose yourself as having flunked preschool.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 01:24:12 am
Fuck it, I'm dealing with morons.
L0L

Dude you're going on about things that don't even relate to the points that were brought up. Titiln mentioned that Mother was represented well and then you go on about how badly the series gets treated in the US.


Also here's this
http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/17/4438642/super-smash-bros-director-masahiro-sakurai-character-selection
btw read this  >___>'
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:24:44 am
You should probably stop before you expose yourself as having flunked preschool.
Wow, that was so painful. [/sarcasm]
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 01:25:47 am
Hahahaha you should just admit that you're buttmad that Wii Fit Trainer got in over whatever obscure JRPG nobody you wanted.  You sound like the Modok whiners from back in Marvel 3.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:26:50 am
There are people that still acknowledge that game?

Modok is still a serious character, despite the appearance. How does that even fit this argument?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 01:27:22 am
also he's speaking as if we already know who's going to be in the game and the rest of the newcomers are going to be male wii fit trainer and female villager
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 01:29:37 am
Also here's a novel idea, since there's a gigantic community of Nintendo console hackers and Smash Bros mod artists, any character you don't like is probably just gonna get swapped out anyway.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:29:37 am
Did you not read that I said "I know it's still early, but if they are so quick to announce Mario or Zelda characters returning, shouldn't they be able to do the same with others?"

Also, aren't we talking about the actual game and not some stupid hacks?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 01:31:57 am
Yes, but they chose not to do so.

WOAH
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 01:32:16 am
Also here's a novel idea, since there's a gigantic community of Nintendo console hackers and Smash Bros mod artists, any character you don't like is probably just gonna get swapped out anyway.
Speaking of that, 50 bucks there's going to be a "Smash 4 Brawl Project" when the game is released
Also "Smash 4 Brawl Project M Project"
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 01:32:37 am
they're obviously quicker to announce their bigger franchises first. by not announcing certain characters it gives them news to talk about leading up to the game's release. in the words of sonic the hedgehog, you're too slow
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 01:33:35 am
There are two Earthbound/Mother characters in Brawl.  There is only one Wii Fit character in Smash U.  Furthermore Earthbound is going to virtual console.

Humor in fighting games? I was certain they were meant to be taken super seriously. If they were meant to be comedies, then take away every serious character in the roster. Zelda series? Too serious, get them out.

You are absolutely terrible at this whole making a point thing.
Brawl, not this new one. Also, I think my point's pretty clear, you're just failing to grasp it. Humor in a video game works if it's story, not in character selection or traits.
This is literally wrong. Humor works if its funny, not because of character selection or traits not if it is story( whatever that means, i will assume you mean the story being funny) .
If the story being funny was how a funny character could work, then characters like Dan, Rob, Kuma, roger, Norimaro wouldnt be funny.
There are a variety of ways to insert humour on anything, and a character doing exercises and going against a giant staple of action heroes using her yoga moves is funny and light hearted. In the same way that a Raccoon with machine guns is funny, and in the same way that Pinkie pie inflating to attack in that pony game was funny and light hearted.

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Wario was never meant to be taken seriously, which makes him an exception to this rule.
what? thats just picking and choosing, how can you assert that character x is supposed to be taken seriously and character b isnt?
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If something/someone is meant to be taken seriously, especially in a fighting environment, then make it so, don't write him/her/it to where people should refuse the existence.

Why would people refuse the existence? what does that even mean? That sentence doesnt hold up.


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Major example, Earthbound/Mother.
a franchise that has been represented since the first game. start making sense, guy.
In the US? Doubt it. Also, it's probably the only game that was released in the US, and not the rest of the franchise, am I right? True fans of the series enjoyed all three games, not just the SNES game. If it was only the SNES game that had the love, then Lucas shouldn't have been in the US release of Brawl, which would have meant that Mother 3 got snubbed TWICE by Nintendo for a US release.
True fans enjoyed all the three games so the games needed to have more representation? Why? what makes it more fitting that it needed more representation? The game actually had arcade story boss fights with earthbound bosses, but none from zelda, does that mean that zelda is misrepresented? The point doesnt hold.

You are basically saying you are mad about something unrelated so it doesnt make sense for you that they are making stuff addressed to tastes other than your own. And thats kinda unrealistic.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:35:46 am
If that "WOAH" (BTW, misspelled) was meant to say I was burned, that was not a burn.

Wow, this is so stupid, people left and right are not getting it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 19, 2013, 01:36:13 am
There are people that still acknowledge that game?

Modok is still a serious character, despite the appearance. How does that even fit this argument?
Its the most watched game on fighting game streams to date.

Did you not read that I said "I know it's still early, but if they are so quick to announce Mario or Zelda characters returning, shouldn't they be able to do the same with others?"

Also, aren't we talking about the actual game and not some stupid hacks?
Marketing and hype. Theres no fun in knowing the roster from the get-go.



Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 19, 2013, 01:36:27 am
Project M is an example of a community mod done right, in that it's a way to play a much more refined version of Brawl IMO. If this happens here too, no complaints(they made Luigi godlike.) But that's besides the point. I hope the next character that gets in is Waluigi over Lucas, he'd probably fit in more, and I hold my chops to this. But Waluigi is too zany for Smash, apparently(no he isn't, he belongs in this field!). Wii Fit Trainer is, to me,  just like Smash 64 captain falcon. Seriously, Captain Falcon was such a bizarre choice in terms of he never did anything outside of one comic in an instruction manual, and yet, here he is, very iconic. Falcon doesn't even use his gun like he did in the comic, it's not even a nod to that! It's just there. The only reason Wii Fit Trainer is getting any negative reception is because it isn't some sleeper cult favorite or something, which is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 01:37:41 am
There are people that still acknowledge that game?

Modok is still a serious character, despite the appearance. How does that even fit this argument?
Its the most watched game on fighting game streams to date.

As well as the most played both at tournaments and casually.  Lmao at Napoleon his arguments are terrible.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 01:38:24 am
If that "WOAH" (BTW, misspelled) was meant to say I was burned, that was not a burn.

Wow, this is so stupid, people left and right are not getting it.
You can misspell "woah"? the more you know.

And that's a pretty weak way to reject peoples arguments. If you are going to be wrong about something at least commit to it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:39:36 am
Fox, Falco, and Wolf never fought outside their ships until Assault, and that was more multiplayer. Falcon's character background makes sense despite the lack of actual fighting/action style gameplay.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 01:40:51 am
Mario doesn't do shit besides jump on turtles
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 01:41:32 am
Wow, this is so stupid, people left and right are not getting it.
the only one repeatedly failing to make a good point and getting constantly shut down in this thread is you
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 01:43:32 am
Mario doesn't do shit besides jump on turtles

How about that Snake loser idiot?  He doesn't even fight, he just sneaks past guards.  Why is he in Smash Bros and not my waifu from Fire Emblem?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:45:08 am
Mario doesn't do shit besides jump on turtles
Fireballs? Punch and kick? Spin attack? Ground pound? None of these ring any bells?

Wow, this is so stupid, people left and right are not getting it.
the only one repeatedly failing to make a good point and getting constantly shut down in this thread is you
No, I'm pretty sure people are misreading my points.

There are people that still acknowledge that game?

Modok is still a serious character, despite the appearance. How does that even fit this argument?
Its the most watched game on fighting game streams to date.

As well as the most played both at tournaments and casually.  Lmao at Napoleon his arguments are terrible.

Most watched, most played, but not most sold I'll bet.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 01:45:37 am
Lol that Snake is a fucking pussy, always being scared and shit
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 01:46:50 am
No, I'm pretty sure people are misreading my points.
Explain.

In detail.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 19, 2013, 01:47:09 am
Falcon's background didn't talk about him going YES and using FALCON PUNCH among other crazy moves to subdue his targets, he was just a bounty hunter with a gun until Smash.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 01:47:19 am
Then you got those Pokemon.  How are they supposed to fight?  They have to wait their turn to attack.  In a real fight nobody would give you a turn they would just stomp your shit.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 01:48:16 am
Most watched, most played, but not most sold I'll bet.
yeah the most played game barely sold copies. jesus fucking christ
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 19, 2013, 01:48:44 am
There are people that still acknowledge that game?

Modok is still a serious character, despite the appearance. How does that even fit this argument?
Its the most watched game on fighting game streams to date.

As well as the most played both at tournaments and casually.  Lmao at Napoleon his arguments are terrible.

Most watched, most played, but not most sold I'll bet.
lel. and what is your point? your coming off as an derpy fanboy over a supposed "wasted spot"
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:49:12 am
I was referring to the bounty hunter. Way to misunderstand my point there.

Jeez, every time I try to say something, someone misses it and assumes bullshit.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 01:50:04 am
I wonder why.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:51:01 am
Most watched, most played, but not most sold I'll bet.
yeah the most played game barely sold copies. jesus fucking christ
Most played =/= most sold.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 01:52:10 am
Yeah everybody just pirated the game and rented it from Blockbuster, that's how they got all of that training mode matchup experience and team combinations down.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 01:52:50 am
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There are people that still acknowledge that game?

Modok is still a serious character, despite the appearance. How does that even fit this argument?
Its the most watched game on fighting game streams to date.

As well as the most played both at tournaments and casually.  Lmao at Napoleon his arguments are terrible.

Most watched, most played, but not most sold I'll bet.

Didnt you just made the point that wifit being the most sold wasnt important to make it a cult hit? why are you now claiming that not being the most sold its a bad thing? You are using it as a point for dismissing it.

You are flailing all over, half of the sentences dont even make sense with your previous posts and yet others are the ones not getting you?
You literally said

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If something/someone is meant to be taken seriously, especially in a fighting environment, then make it so, don't write him/her/it to where people should refuse the existence.
which isnt even a proper sentence.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 01:54:40 am
ignoring that, "most watched/played" alone means that people are still acknowledging the game which was your initial point. it has a CULT FOLLOWING, IF YOU WILL. stop posting here
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 01:57:09 am
Funny, I thought that was how the world worked. Make a point, then contradict that point. There's almost no such thing as a winning argument as someone will change their minds on the matter. That does not mean I see Wii Fit Trainer as a positive. Quit twisting/putting words in my mouth.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Tyrant Belial on June 19, 2013, 01:58:50 am
We aren't putting any words in your mouth. Those are the words coming from you AND NONE OF THEM MAKE ANY SENSE.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 01:59:15 am
There's almost no such thing as a winning argument as someone will change their minds on the matter.

NO SHIT.  YOU THINK? 

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 02:01:01 am
Funny, I thought that was how the world worked. Make a point, then contradict that point. There's almost no such thing as a winning argument as someone will change their minds on the matter. That does not mean I see Wii Fit Trainer as a positive. Quit twisting/putting words in my mouth.

Contradicting your own points is how discussions work?  I dont know how or why you would think that.

You are implying people are putting words on your mouth saying you think wiffit trainer is a positive, which... well no one really did. They just said that wii fit is a game that sold very well. How does that makes it your words?

 I still dont get what you wanted to say back there ( with the refuse the existence ) since you ignored my post and just claimed I wasnt understanding you.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 02:02:21 am
There's almost no such thing as a winning argument as someone will change their minds on the matter.

NO SHIT.  YOU THINK? 


You're thinking I make no sense, and here I am laughing at that. How can a hypocrite call someone else a hypocrite without being hypocritical?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 02:03:17 am
=|
Dude thats not what hypocrite means.

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You're thinking I make no sense, and here I am laughing at that. How can a hypocrite call someone else a hypocrite without being hypocritical?

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 02:03:55 am
Explaining yourself a bit better might be a good start.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 19, 2013, 02:05:22 am
Wii Fit Trainer is a good addition because she is from the sleeper hit Wii Fit, which sold out millions but did not do very well in the market. However, after multiple petitions, Wii Fit Trainer is finally here. This is all factual.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Aldo on June 19, 2013, 02:06:55 am
The only thing I understood in all this discussion is that Napo doesn´t like the Wii Fit Trainer choice for a character. Everything else is twisted.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 02:07:28 am
How can I explain it any more clearly? It seems pretty sound already. "If it isn't broken, don't fix it." Or am I to adopt the new idea of "If it isn't broken, break it some more to improve it"?

Wii Fit Trainer is a good addition because she is from the sleeper hit Wii Fit, which sold out millions but did not do very well in the market. However, after multiple petitions, Wii Fit Trainer is finally here. This is all factual.

They seriously petitioned this? Wow, people are bigger idiots than I thought. Petitioning a yoga instructor to be in a fighting game? Sense, that makes none. Petition something that makes logical sense, not Nintendo logical sense.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on June 19, 2013, 02:07:59 am
The only thing I understood in all this discussion is that Napo doesn´t like the Wii Fit Trainer choice for a character. Everything else is twisted.
I just got the understanding that he's terrible at arguments.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Aldo on June 19, 2013, 02:09:34 am
^ Perhaps that too.

They seriously petitioned this? Wow, people are bigger idiots than I thought. Petitioning a yoga instructor to be in a fighting game? Sense, that makes none. Petition something that makes logical sense, not Nintendo logical sense.

Don´t call people idiots just because you don´t the character choice. Bad argument #10

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 19, 2013, 02:10:54 am
Wii Fit did sell very well however, and it is a video game under the nintendo license. Sales are how we got Mario in Smash, beyond his iconic status which was caused by....well shit, SALES!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 02:13:37 am
Wii Fit Trainer is a good addition because she is from the sleeper hit Wii Fit, which sold out millions but did not do very well in the market. However, after multiple petitions, Wii Fit Trainer is finally here. This is all factual.

They seriously petitioned this? Wow, people are bigger idiots than I thought. Petitioning a yoga instructor to be in a fighting game? Sense, that makes none. Petition something that makes logical sense, not Nintendo logical sense.

yeah remember that thing i said you didnt get?
you were accusing mc2 of being hypocrital when he was being sarcastical.
Kong is also being sarcastical.

Also an hypocrite is someone that accuses others of doing something wrong that they themselves do without recognizing the flaws of their own.

The whole premise of "you are being an hypocrite for saying im not making sense" doesnt make sense unless the person saying you dont make sense wasnt making sense themselves.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 19, 2013, 02:15:28 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-4.png[/avatar]
Petitioning a yoga instructor to be in a fighting game? Sense, that makes none.

ThatIdahoDerpy, less than half an hour ago, on why what a character does in their original game doesn't matter said:
Fox, Falco, and Wolf never fought outside their ships until Assault, and that was more multiplayer. Falcon's character background makes sense despite the lack of actual fighting/action style gameplay.

I can't.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 02:17:00 am
Even if you weren't hilarious, pathetically wrong, your entire "argument" consists of subjective, biased statements and personal insults.  Go register a Gamefaqs account, you'll fit right in.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 19, 2013, 02:17:49 am
I still don't understand how a Character from a game that was a pretty big for Nintendo last gen is a wasted Slot in a game series that is essentially a museum for Nintendo?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 02:18:43 am
Because he does not like her. Obviously.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 19, 2013, 02:19:00 am
sakurai said:
stop talking about ness, he is in the fucking game-desu ka, urusai the fuck up about wii fit trainer too, she's awesome and she's staying desu

i think this was directed at the pony guy not sure
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 19, 2013, 02:20:48 am
Doesn't Dhalsim practice Yoga? There you go.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 02:22:10 am
Not posting because finally realizing how bad his arguments where, or just pausing for comedic effect. Who knows?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 02:24:09 am
I'm kind of hoping that god, jesus, allah, buddha or whoever the administrator of the universe is merges his ability to post with the shit thread of life.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 19, 2013, 02:30:55 am
This may also hint to the idea that Nintendo may be trying to buy the rights to Megaman from Capcom (One man's wild guess/opinion).
:I

That literally makes no amount of sense.

Modok is still a serious character, despite the appearance.
Not really. Even his ending is silly. And even if a character is meant to be taken totally seriously, it does not preclude any humours elements within that same character. Look at Shuma Gorath; he is literally a Lovecraftian horror and his ending has him become a Japanese game host!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 02:33:17 am
Yo can we get this thread moved

(http://i.imgur.com/iuPLnVX.png)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 02:34:11 am
Still alive. Just because it is a Nintendo showcase doesn't mean you can remove any traditional logic. What I'm trying to get at is if a character has a fighting ability of any form, it makes sense. Bounty hunter? Gun, maybe some form of marital arts knowledge. Monsters? Brute force, elemental powers. Yoga instructor? I don't remember yoga being a martial art. See what I'm trying to say now? No? Then I can't break it down any more than this without resorting to terms that are so moronic that they won't make sense when trying to make sense.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 19, 2013, 02:36:02 am
I don't remember Falcon kick being a martial art. I don't know when ROB was ever a weapon that could shoot lasers and Gyromites that cut you. I evidently can't believe that Mr. Game and Watch hits you with bacon and an assortment of other goofy shit. When the hell was legitimacy and martial arts ever a smash thing? Maybe Mortal Kombat, but not Smash. Don't delude yourself.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 02:37:45 am
...I give up. Every time I think I've made my point, someone has to make it look like there is none.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on June 19, 2013, 02:38:17 am
You never had a point to begin with.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kamekaze on June 19, 2013, 02:38:31 am
Everyone is posting about trainer......and I'm just here wondering when they'll announce waluigi.

...I give up. Every time I think I've made my point, someone has to make it look like there is none.

So you agree that you made a pointless point?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 02:39:27 am
...I give up. Every time I think I've made my point, someone has to make it look like there is none.

Awesome, now stop posting here and preferably everywhere else too.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 02:39:48 am
...I give up. Every time I think I've made my point, someone has to make it look like there is none.
Explain how killer kongs points were wrong.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kanbei on June 19, 2013, 02:40:31 am
Everyone is posting about trainer......and I'm just here wondering when they'll announce waluigi.
Waiting for Waluigi's announcement too.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 02:41:25 am
If you want me to stop posting, then petition a final ban. Otherwise, you can't tell me what to do.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kamekaze on June 19, 2013, 02:42:17 am
If you want me to stop posting, then petition a final ban. Otherwise, you can't tell me what to do.
row row fight the power......
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 02:42:40 am
here we go again, someone pass me the popcorn
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 02:43:27 am
Explain how killer kongs points were wrong.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 19, 2013, 02:43:35 am
Everyone is posting about trainer......and I'm just here wondering when they'll announce waluigi.

ju already know, dx crotch chop taunt and i'm diggity down


oh and a tennis-themed final smash (waluigi wins the minimatch, he does damage, victim wins, no damage) or some shit
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on June 19, 2013, 02:44:06 am
If you want me to stop posting, then petition a final ban. Otherwise, you can't tell me what to do.
God shut up already.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 02:44:23 am
No, that's not happening again. Put your popcorn back.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 02:44:29 am
I actually wrote up a theoretical Waluigi moveset.  Holla at me.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 02:45:57 am
I actually wrote up a theoretical Waluigi moveset.  Holla at me.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Okay, that actually sounds like fun, not going to lie.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 02:47:03 am
Quote
To:
Masahiro Sakurai
Nintendo
I just signed the following petition addressed to: Nintendo or Masahiro Sakurai

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Push Masahiro Sakurai to sign up in MUGEN Guild, become administrator and ban That idaho guy or whatever.

Sakurai, we are fully aware that the development of the newest Smash Brothers game is taking up most of your time, but please listen. That Idaho guy is making a lot of really bad posts in the MUGEN Fighters Guild thread about Smash Brothers for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS. This could negatively impact the game. Please sign up to the forum, work your way up and become administrator, and permaban That Idaho Guy.
----------------

Sincerely,
[Your name]
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 02:48:40 am
I actually wrote up a theoretical Waluigi moveset.  Holla at me.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
That's funny, yo, that stuff doesnt belong on a serious game like smash bros.

stop being hypocrital.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 02:50:29 am
...I give up. Every time I think I've made my point, someone has to make it look like there is none.
Explain how killer kongs points were wrong.
I didn't say they were wrong. I was saying to missed what I was trying to say, and what was said in response was excessive.

Now, can we shut up about this even after I admitted defeat in a really pointless argument?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kanbei on June 19, 2013, 02:51:13 am
I actually wrote up a theoretical Waluigi moveset.  Holla at me.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
This is the best moveset idea I have seen for waluigi so far.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 19, 2013, 02:52:16 am
I didn't say they were wrong. I was saying to missed what I was trying to say, and what was said in response was excessive.

Now, can we shut up about this even after I admitted defeat in a really pointless argument?
No. Now explain how they missed the point of what you were trying to say and how the response was excessive.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 19, 2013, 02:53:02 am
no dx crotch chop taunt tho smh


more like faillist amirite
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Aldo on June 19, 2013, 02:53:18 am
oh and a tennis-themed final smash (waluigi wins the minimatch, he does damage, victim wins, no damage) or some shit

Best idea for a Final Smash in a while.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 02:54:27 am
I didn't say they were wrong. I was saying to missed what I was trying to say, and what was said in response was excessive.

Now, can we shut up about this even after I admitted defeat in a really pointless argument?
No. Now explain how they missed the point of what you were trying to say and how the response was excessive.

I ADMITTED DEFEAT!!! Why should I continue? The thread got derailed enough as it was, we don't need to continue.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kanbei on June 19, 2013, 02:54:48 am
Do ya think adding a golden sun character is a good idea?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 02:58:34 am
no dx crotch chop taunt tho smh


more like faillist amirite

The crotch chop is too good for a taunt.  It has to be reserved for a victory pose like in Strikers. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 19, 2013, 03:09:19 am
Do ya think adding a golden sun character is a good idea?
I want Isaac if they include Golden Sun.

Im looking forward to Little Mac.

That boxing stage.
That theme.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 03:13:28 am
No love for the Major Circuit theme :(

Also that boxing stage had Smash stuff written all over it, makes me kind of iffy as it doesn't seem very Punch Out related besides it being a ring
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 03:15:45 am
It's a Punch Out Stage.  The layout is the same, and you can see the green light show from Super Macho Man's entrance in the back.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 03:17:59 am
If you're gonna do the light show, you may as well have Super Macho Man appear in the background.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 19, 2013, 03:27:09 am
not if he's.......a character tho
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 19, 2013, 03:28:00 am
If you want me to stop posting, then petition a final ban. Otherwise, you can't tell me what to do.
Stop being such a drama queen, dude.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 03:32:21 am
No clue what you're talking about.

     Posted: June 19, 2013, 03:33:16 am
not if he's.......a character tho

Little Mac's the main character. Why would you want to be anyone else?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 03:35:59 am
can someone just split everything since thatidahoguy started shitting up the thread so we can start over. i guess you could keep the good posts like the waluigi movelist.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 19, 2013, 03:37:24 am
really dont think its needed, the thread just evolved organically past it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 03:40:04 am
it was five pages of unadulterated stupidity i think it should go away
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 19, 2013, 03:41:18 am
not if he's.......a character tho
I know its sarcasm, but if they were to include a second rep, it'd have to be Hippo King.

Hard knockdowns would be a nightmare. :mmhmm:

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 19, 2013, 03:46:53 am
Glass Joe as Sandbag replacement, please.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Prototype God on June 19, 2013, 03:51:04 am
Doc Louis> Lil Mac.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 19, 2013, 04:51:24 am
can someone just split everything since thatidahoguy started shitting up the thread so we can start over. i guess you could keep the good posts like the waluigi movelist.

too late, I already read it.


That's funny, yo, that stuff doesnt belong on a serious game like smash bros.

stop being hypocrital.

how can a human can call another a human without being a human ? refuse the existence.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 06:24:35 am
And now for another theoretical moveset.  This time an update for our good buddy Ganondorf.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I'm having a lot of fun coming up with these, and thinking of ways to make these characters unique and rewarding.  My idea for Ganon was a strong, powerful character with frightening range and surprising mobility, but retaining his slowness and with moves that aren't safe on block.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 19, 2013, 06:50:12 am
^ THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN. :woeh:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 19, 2013, 06:52:49 am
That keeps the shit I love about Ganon from Brawl and adds new things that work better for him. I like it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 07:13:03 am
And now for another theoretical moveset.  This time an update for our good buddy Ganondorf.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I'm having a lot of fun coming up with these, and thinking of ways to make these characters unique and rewarding.  My idea for Ganon was a strong, powerful character with frightening range and surprising mobility, but retaining his slowness and with moves that aren't safe on block.
i wish the project m guys did this at least
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 19, 2013, 07:44:07 am
Only nit pick I have is the Dair (his current Dair is Godly), but everything else is superior. Good job.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 19, 2013, 08:37:04 am
And now for another theoretical moveset.  This time an update for our good buddy Ganondorf.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
This moveset is almost identical to a hack called Gerudo Prince (http://forums.kc-mm.com/index.php?topic=6458.0).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 19, 2013, 11:13:59 am
I'm not trying to reignite anything, but the Legend of Zelda isn't entirely serious. Groose. That is all.

Anyway, gotta have Waluigi. Smash needs crotch chopping action. I do hope Wario (if he returns) has a moveset closer to Wario Land, or at least has moves from both WL and WW.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kanbei on June 19, 2013, 11:44:43 am
How about Saki from Sin and Punishment? He was an assist trophy and Sakurai did say this back during brawl's development "He rivals just about any main character. There were many requests from users for his inclusion, and he IS pretty cool, so I did what I could to include him. After all, this game does let you enjoy a dream cast of supporting characters!" So I hope Saki will be a newcomer.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 19, 2013, 01:25:15 pm
I'd like to see Magnus get in. He was nice.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 19, 2013, 02:16:36 pm
Treasure makes great games and Saki would be a very welcome edition.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 19, 2013, 03:45:08 pm
If any Treasure property makes it in, it better damn well be Marina.  I say that knowing that S&P is Nintendo owned now, but still.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 19, 2013, 06:05:08 pm
Masahiro Sakurai says character selection is stressful 'almost to the brink of death' (http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/17/4438642/super-smash-bros-director-masahiro-sakurai-character-selection).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ThatIdahoGuy on June 19, 2013, 06:08:32 pm
Wasn't that article posted earlier in the thread?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xhominid on June 19, 2013, 06:37:06 pm
Masahiro Sakurai says character selection is stressful 'almost to the brink of death' (http://www.polygon.com/2013/6/17/4438642/super-smash-bros-director-masahiro-sakurai-character-selection).

Well I can pretty much see why he would say that, but the only thing I honestly care about now is if Kirby and Co. won't be spotlight stealing hogs at the possibly next iteration of Subspace Emissary.

Other than that, I'm golden...well that and Mewtwo coming back.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 19, 2013, 08:50:41 pm
Am I the only one disgusted that people are still trying to bring the GC controller to the Wii U? :\
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 08:52:12 pm
I sure hope so.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Just No Point on June 19, 2013, 08:59:59 pm
Why would someone be disgusted at having more options to play games with?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 09:05:48 pm
http://nintendoeverything.com/126065/sakurai-not-enough-time-to-bring-back-every-smash-bros-character/ (http://nintendoeverything.com/126065/sakurai-not-enough-time-to-bring-back-every-smash-bros-character/)
http://nintendoeverything.com/126067/how-pokemon-characters-are-chosen-for-smash-bros/ (http://nintendoeverything.com/126067/how-pokemon-characters-are-chosen-for-smash-bros/)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 09:09:22 pm
Am I the only one disgusted that people are still trying to bring the GC controller to the Wii U? :\
what's wrong with the gc controller
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 19, 2013, 09:12:42 pm
Am I the only one disgusted that people are still trying to bring the GC controller to the Wii U? :\
what's wrong with the gc controller

I dunno, the fact that people still think it's relevant to this era at all? It's two generations past expiration date.

Also here's a novel idea, since there's a gigantic community of Nintendo console hackers and Smash Bros mod artists, any character you don't like is probably just gonna get swapped out anyway.
Speaking of that, 50 bucks there's going to be a "Smash 4 Brawl Project" when the game is released
Also "Smash 4 Brawl Project M Project"

Nnno, I'm pretty sure they'd make P:M first.

Melee was the only good game ever, you see.

Project M is an example of a community mod done right, in that it's a way to play a much more refined version of Brawl IMO. If this happens here too, no complaints(they made Luigi godlike.) But that's besides the point. I hope the next character that gets in is Waluigi over Lucas, he'd probably fit in more, and I hold my chops to this. But Waluigi is too zany for Smash, apparently(no he isn't, he belongs in this field!). Wii Fit Trainer is, to me,  just like Smash 64 captain falcon. Seriously, Captain Falcon was such a bizarre choice in terms of he never did anything outside of one comic in an instruction manual, and yet, here he is, very iconic. Falcon doesn't even use his gun like he did in the comic, it's not even a nod to that! It's just there. The only reason Wii Fit Trainer is getting any negative reception is because it isn't some sleeper cult favorite or something, which is ridiculous.

It's... Melee 2.0. Literally. They won't admit to it, but it's the truth.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 19, 2013, 09:14:36 pm
Its their best and most comfortable controller.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 09:17:09 pm
it's still the best controller for smash brothers. it's obvious that the wiimote and wii u tablet bring in many new control and game possibilities, but smash doesn't really use motion or tablet control. in that aspect gamecube's controller is still superior. people got used to it in melee, kept using it for brawl, and would probably like to continue using it in the newer game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 09:19:51 pm
Project M is an example of a community mod done right, in that it's a way to play a much more refined version of Brawl IMO. If this happens here too, no complaints(they made Luigi godlike.) But that's besides the point. I hope the next character that gets in is Waluigi over Lucas, he'd probably fit in more, and I hold my chops to this. But Waluigi is too zany for Smash, apparently(no he isn't, he belongs in this field!). Wii Fit Trainer is, to me,  just like Smash 64 captain falcon. Seriously, Captain Falcon was such a bizarre choice in terms of he never did anything outside of one comic in an instruction manual, and yet, here he is, very iconic. Falcon doesn't even use his gun like he did in the comic, it's not even a nod to that! It's just there. The only reason Wii Fit Trainer is getting any negative reception is because it isn't some sleeper cult favorite or something, which is ridiculous.

It's... Melee 2.0. Literally. They won't admit to it, but it's the truth.

Exactly, and that's why Project M > Brawl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 09:22:49 pm
It's... Melee 2.0. Literally. They won't admit to it, but it's the truth.
thanks for exposing the truth behind project m
the fucking about page said:
Project M is a community-made mod of Brawl inspired by Super Smash Bros. Melee's gameplay
the fucking about page said:
Project M hopes to achieve a game similar to Super Smash Bros. Melee in many respects
the fucking about page said:
In short, Project M aims to capture the essence of what made Melee a truly great game
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 19, 2013, 09:35:00 pm
I don't see the point of going out of your way to make brawl play EXACTLY like melee when it's much easier (and the end result is better) just to play melee.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 19, 2013, 09:38:22 pm
it's still the best controller for smash brothers. it's obvious that the wiimote and wii u tablet bring in many new control and game possibilities, but smash doesn't really use motion or tablet control. in that aspect gamecube's controller is still superior. people got used to it in melee, kept using it for brawl, and would probably like to continue using it in the newer game.

I dunno, it just feels like they're dragging it along, making it about as much of a holy grail as Melee.

(snip)

By similar they mean "the exact bloody same", though - which is funny, considering that for a bunch that was so adamant against clones would reintroduce them for the purpose of faithful recreation, but it's a different ball park.

Exactly, and that's why Project M > Brawl.

Oh goodie, you're one of those people.

I don't see the point of going out of your way to make brawl play EXACTLY like melee when it's much easier (and the end result is better) just to play melee.

Well, yeah, that's what a lot of people been saying.

Then again, it's why they did P:M in the first place - they wanted a -direct- sequel to Melee instead of something new, even if the something new isn't that good.

It's why I'd rather have hacking not come to Wii U, if it meant that they'd just try to make it Melee III: Third Strike.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 09:39:36 pm
I don't see the point of going out of your way to make brawl play EXACTLY like melee when it's much easier (and the end result is better) just to play melee.

Because Brawl's roster has more character and play style variety, but the actual gameplay is pretty ass.  Also it doesn't play exactly like Melee because certain characters like Bowser and Samus get some much needed buffs.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 19, 2013, 09:43:19 pm
I don't see the point of going out of your way to make brawl play EXACTLY like melee when it's much easier (and the end result is better) just to play melee.
i guess it has a point for people that wanted a melee sequel that played more like melee but with new characters and stages and whatever. personally i'd rather play brawl, but i really like some of the moveset changes in project m (like snake and the pokemon in pokemon trainer being their own characters)
I dunno, it just feels like they're dragging it along, making it about as much of a holy grail as Melee.
why throw functional controllers away? besides, it would be optional and you'd still be able to use every other controller. i still don't see the problem.
By similar they mean "the exact bloody same", though - which is funny, considering that for a bunch that was so adamant against clones would reintroduce them for the purpose of faithful recreation, but it's a different ball park.
1: it's not the exact bloody same but ok 2: what clone reintroduction, did they put pichu and dr mario back in?
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It's why I'd rather have hacking not come to Wii U, if it meant that they'd just try to make it Melee III: Third Strike.
if you don't like the hacks don't use them :???:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 19, 2013, 09:46:18 pm
the only thing I honestly care about now is if Kirby and Co. won't be spotlight stealing hogs at the possibly next iteration of Subspace Emissary.
Uh... no.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 19, 2013, 09:50:30 pm
why throw functional controllers away? besides, it would be optional and you'd still be able to use every other controller. i still don't see the problem.

Fair enough, as the PS3 controller stuck the same for three generations. Though, they didn't exactly ever drop support for it, where Nintendo just does new controllers with each console.

I mean, couldn't we have an N64 controller to play [with a better joystick] as well?

1: it's not the exact bloody same but ok 2: what clone reintroduction, did they put pichu and dr mario back in?

Well, I'd say it is, for at least most characters, considering they took the actual velocities and params from Melee. As for Pichu and Dr. M, no... Dr. M is not in, but they are mixing some of his differences to the normal Mario. Though they are planning to have Roy, and they have recloned Ganondorf and Falco.

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if you don't like the hacks don't use them :???:

Oh I like hacks, don't get me wrong. I just don't feel that it's right for a fan mod to basically be saying to Sakurai "you're doing it wrong and will never do a game as good as Melee". Screams of snooty to me. But, y'know, my opinion, not fact.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 09:51:56 pm
If anything it's snooty for Sakurai to tell the fans THEY'RE wrong for playing a 60 dollar game they bought with their own money the way they want.  There was a lot of stupid shit in Brawl like tripping, weaknesses for the Pokemon characters, Lucario's comeback factor and such and I'd rather play Project M any day.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 19, 2013, 09:57:00 pm
Sakurai doesn't approve of people taking Smash serious. Can I agree with his choices of adding tripping? No. But I sure as hell agree that nobody should take a fighter that seriously.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on June 19, 2013, 09:58:33 pm
If anything it's snooty for Sakurai to tell the fans THEY'RE wrong for playing a 60 dollar game they bought with their own money the way they want.

When did Sakurai say that?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 19, 2013, 10:07:08 pm
so any idea when a new a char will be announced? didn't they do a weekly thing last time for brawl?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 19, 2013, 10:14:13 pm
If anything it's snooty for Sakurai to tell the fans THEY'RE wrong for playing a 60 dollar game they bought with their own money the way they want.

When did Sakurai say that?

Right here. (http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/13/super-smash-bros-creator-discusses-online-play-habits/)

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“I’d like people to take some freer approaches with their gameplay, but the sort of battle style you describe in your letter is not interesting or fun. That’s why I’ll probably be thinking of a way to deal with that in the next game. We’ve learned a lot about net play since Brawl was released, after all, so a lot more is possible.”
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on June 19, 2013, 10:18:46 pm
He didn't say they're wrong, he just said they're not interesting.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xhominid on June 20, 2013, 01:23:49 am
the only thing I honestly care about now is if Kirby and Co. won't be spotlight stealing hogs at the possibly next iteration of Subspace Emissary.
Uh... no.

But I wanna see people actually do something to the story other than that pink bloated freak... :-[
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on June 20, 2013, 01:25:34 am
pink bloated freak... :-[
:getout:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 20, 2013, 01:34:04 am
pink bloated freak... :-[
:getout:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on June 20, 2013, 01:37:41 am
I don't see the point of going out of your way to make brawl play EXACTLY like melee when it's much easier (and the end result is better) just to play melee.
I don't see why either, but I can be hypocrite sometimes.  Isn't that kind of exactly what MUGEN is for?  Making fighters play exactly like other fighters?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 20, 2013, 02:28:16 am
But I wanna see people actually do something to the story other than that pink bloated freak... :-[
I think you should replay Subspace Emmisary, then. Kirby and friends are major characters, yes, but they do not dominate the storyline and every character is given at least one cool thing to do.

Also Kirby is great he's no freak.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 20, 2013, 02:39:47 am
Falcon did his thing.

Like, he legit did the most awesome Falcon Punch ever.

Followed by the most odd pose ever.

And yet he's still awesome.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 20, 2013, 02:44:20 am
Dedede was practically the main character of Subspace.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 20, 2013, 02:48:41 am
Dedede is a fucking champ though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xhominid on June 20, 2013, 03:02:58 am
pink bloated freak... :-[
:getout:

pink bloated freak... :-[
:getout:
Why don't you both get out?

But I wanna see people actually do something to the story other than that pink bloated freak... :-[
I think you should replay Subspace Emmisary, then. Kirby and friends are major characters, yes, but they do not dominate the storyline and every character is given at least one cool thing to do.

Also Kirby is great he's no freak.

I watched and played good parts of Subspace to the point I know a huge chunk of it, and Kirby, Meta-Knight and DeDeDe were the movers and shakers of the entire plot going the way of the good guys. I'd say that's pretty much dominating the story.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on June 20, 2013, 03:30:45 am
But I wanna see people actually do something to the story other than that pink bloated freak... :-[

Hope you like Pit then.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 20, 2013, 03:45:31 am
I watched and played good parts of Subspace to the point I know a huge chunk of it, and Kirby, Meta-Knight and DeDeDe were the movers and shakers of the entire plot going the way of the good guys. I'd say that's pretty much dominating the story.
Dedede, sure. Kirby and Meta Knight? They're among the major players, but they don't drive the plot any more than say, Wario, Diddy Kong, or Lucas. And certainly not as much as Gannondorf and Bowser. They don't dominate the narrative, they just play sizeable roles in it. But by all means, feel free to scowl at the how much importance the adventures of a pink blob and his friends has on a video game plot.

Also wait, you haven't played the whole thing through? :I
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 20, 2013, 04:20:03 am
I can't wait for this game's story mode: the epic tale of one woman's quest to bring physical fitness to the world of Nintendo.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: -Red- on June 20, 2013, 04:26:23 am
Slim Mario confirmed  :mool:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 20, 2013, 04:27:57 am
Slim Mario has been in since 64, his name is Luigi for some reason.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 20, 2013, 04:41:49 am
Would Slim Samus be Fusion Suit Samus?!?!?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xhominid on June 20, 2013, 04:56:49 am
I watched and played good parts of Subspace to the point I know a huge chunk of it, and Kirby, Meta-Knight and DeDeDe were the movers and shakers of the entire plot going the way of the good guys. I'd say that's pretty much dominating the story.
Dedede, sure. Kirby and Meta Knight? They're among the major players, but they don't drive the plot any more than say, Wario, Diddy Kong, or Lucas. And certainly not as much as Gannondorf and Bowser. They don't dominate the narrative, they just play sizeable roles in it. But by all means, feel free to scowl at the how much importance the adventures of a pink blob and his friends has on a video game plot.

Also wait, you haven't played the whole thing through? :I

I don't have a Wii...damn my ability to have the worst luck

     Posted: June 20, 2013, 04:57:55 am
But I wanna see people actually do something to the story other than that pink bloated freak... :-[

Hope you like Pit then.

You think I like that feathered little spamming bitch? Man, I'm all about the Ike man.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Suave 6-year old on June 20, 2013, 05:05:29 am
I'm praying hardcore for Game and watch. If nobody else I like makes it in, Game and watch would totally make up for them! Cept Ike. Here's hoping for someone with a bit of a similar playstyle like Ike. Great ethor was sexy as fuck yo
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 20, 2013, 06:31:43 am
Man, I'm all about the Ike man.
Ike was an Ok character.
He was far too slow IMO.  He was a super high risk character, especially near edges.
Neutral A and Nair A were his bread and butter.  Without them, he would've had an exceptionally hard time.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 20, 2013, 08:14:09 am
Speaking of Ike, if you haven't seen this you need to.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 20, 2013, 08:25:15 am
Well, I'd say it is, for at least most characters, considering they took the actual velocities and params from Melee. As for Pichu and Dr. M, no... Dr. M is not in, but they are mixing some of his differences to the normal Mario. Though they are planning to have Roy, and they have recloned Ganondorf and Falco.

I just don't feel that it's right for a fan mod to basically be saying to Sakurai "you're doing it wrong and will never do a game as good as Melee".
I'll give you Falco, but Project M Ganon takes elements from Brawl to differentiate him from Falcon. Primarily, the flame choke, and the uppercut at the end of Up+B if it misses.
I also don't see how this mod is snooty. Nowhere on the official page do the team say "Brawl sucks" or that Sakurai ruined anything. That's like saying a rom hack that's well constructed is insulting to a game. But let's talk about Smash U!
Do ya think they'll give Luigi the Poltergust 5000 from Dark Moon? I mean, Mario got F.L.U.D.D. again, so maybe Luigi will get the tool that actually sounds useful with the principle of sucking up projectiles and shooting them back?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 20, 2013, 08:27:01 am
The Poltergust should fire ghosts that stay on the screen as traps, and you can have several classes of ghosts that do different things.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 20, 2013, 08:28:21 am
IDK if that'd work with Luigi's momentum, though. He has to get in, and traps in Smash usually push away.  The only hope would be to get a Creeper type Ghost as opposed to a Greenie or a Slammer, as Creeper ghosts in Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon absorb you and keep you from moving, but that'd be even more luck based than Green Missile.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 20, 2013, 08:29:59 am
I have honestly never played as Luigi outside of unlocking purposes, so I'm not very clear on what his play style is.  In that case the move can work like Rachel's wind and drag people to him? 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 20, 2013, 08:34:02 am
Anything that sets up for a decent combo into Super Jump Punch's sweetspot would be optimal for a trap-like move. If the opponent loses mobility or some form of control, there's probably a benefit for Luigi in there.  Or something that keeps an opponent in the air, if Luigi's air normals stay the same, as they're very fast.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 20, 2013, 08:49:06 am
[youtube]http://youtu.be/h5825Wu0WjA[/youtube]
Lmao, Wtf...?
How the hell did that even happen? :laugh4: 

Edit: After rewatching this vid, that had to be the work of a hack of some sort, Lol.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xhominid on June 20, 2013, 09:08:31 am
Speaking of Ike, if you haven't seen this you need to.

[youtube]http://youtu.be/h5825Wu0WjA[/youtube]

That was fucking awesome!

Micah, that's not a glitch, you actually can jump to cancel out rapid falls like that. I did it plenty of times in Melee and the few times I played Brawl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 20, 2013, 09:39:00 am
Really?  I've never done or seen that happen. Ever.
It was possible to tech off the bottom of the stage and AFAIK, even if he jumped again, "gravity" would've taken him away.  :S
I'm definitely going to try to recreate this one tomorrow.  :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 20, 2013, 08:13:01 pm
I'll give you Falco, but Project M Ganon takes elements from Brawl to differentiate him from Falcon. Primarily, the flame choke, and the uppercut at the end of Up+B if it misses.
I also don't see how this mod is snooty. Nowhere on the official page do the team say "Brawl sucks" or that Sakurai ruined anything. That's like saying a rom hack that's well constructed is insulting to a game. But let's talk about Smash U!
Do ya think they'll give Luigi the Poltergust 5000 from Dark Moon? I mean, Mario got F.L.U.D.D. again, so maybe Luigi will get the tool that actually sounds useful with the principle of sucking up projectiles and shooting them back?

Okay, I'll give you Ganon, but it's still too similar to Melee.

Have you not heard their absolute contempt for Brawl? Their unprofessional atitude of having the Wiimote sound off "failure" when you select a character just because you're using a controller that isn't the Gamecube controller (though it has been patched to remove in the latest release)? It doesn't -need- to say on the official page. You really think they'd post that sort of stuff in public? It's bad enough Dantarion's wiki was sabotaged to prevent ASF from releasing a proper extra slot, but -that- didn't work and the extra slot was released anyway.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 20, 2013, 08:32:44 pm
Speaking of Ike, if you haven't seen this you need to.

http://youtu.be/h5825Wu0WjA
Haha, that was awesome.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 20, 2013, 08:56:56 pm
wiimote sounds off and says Failure? It didn't in my latest release. Demo 2.5 dun have that, you might be thinking of some other Brawl mod. What they DID fix was the input delay that occasionally happened in Brawl, that's one controller related thing. My last note is that Ganon being similar to Melee is for the better. Brawl Ganon's movements were, for the most part, really stiff looking(that U-Smash oh god). Of course a melee inspired mod is going to have veterans take after it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on June 20, 2013, 10:22:24 pm
He's right actually, it was Project M he was referring to. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uL2mgAT3y5g)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 20, 2013, 10:27:23 pm
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/012/e/c/super_smash_bros_4__day_one_auditions_by_xeternalflamebryx-d5rb50c.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 20, 2013, 10:40:26 pm
The reason it does that is because it's not possible to do most of the high level things on a Wii remote, and you'd need a classic controller or Gamecube controller.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 20, 2013, 11:06:51 pm
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/012/e/c/super_smash_bros_4__day_one_auditions_by_xeternalflamebryx-d5rb50c.jpg
you're*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Aldo on June 20, 2013, 11:09:05 pm
freaking pink balls are such illiterate creatures.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 20, 2013, 11:50:22 pm
wiimote sounds off and says Failure? It didn't in my latest release. Demo 2.5 dun have that, you might be thinking of some other Brawl mod. What they DID fix was the input delay that occasionally happened in Brawl, that's one controller related thing. My last note is that Ganon being similar to Melee is for the better. Brawl Ganon's movements were, for the most part, really stiff looking(that U-Smash oh god). Of course a melee inspired mod is going to have veterans take after it.

Like I said, it was an earlier release - 2.1.

But, no. I'm sorry to say that Ganon being similar to Melee is not for the better. I can't take that from the SAME people that had an undying amount of complaints of clones. It's like they complain that it's wrong and then do the same thing, but suddenly it's okay because it's them doing it.

But let's leave elitism to rest and speak of the newest Smash.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 21, 2013, 12:03:12 am
http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/012/e/c/super_smash_bros_4__day_one_auditions_by_xeternalflamebryx-d5rb50c.jpg
you're*

One of the first things I noticed, too :P
How truly and utterly sad.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 21, 2013, 12:09:57 am
I don't get why people don't like Jigglypuff. I mean, sure she's not great in Brawl but she was deadly in Melee, which everyone seems to hold to a higher regard.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 21, 2013, 12:17:40 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordthisguy2_zpsa2329dd9.png[/avatar]I think it's more a matter of why she needs to be there at all.  IIRC, the only reason she made it into Smash in the first place was that Nintendo was banking on Jigglypuff becoming a bigger mascot for Pokemon than Pikachu would.  That never really panned out, so some people feel she ought to be replaced with a more relevant, popular Pokemon character.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on June 21, 2013, 01:01:44 am
The reason it does that is because it's not possible to do most of the high level things on a Wii remote, and you'd need a classic controller or Gamecube controller.
Doesn't change the fact that it's totally immature and alienates anyone who wants to try the hack and happens to only have the wiimote.

I swear, MC2, a van full of Juggalos could break into a nunnery and violate all of the nuns in there, and you'd probably just say "eh, it's the nuns' faults for not wearing chastity belts."

I don't get why people don't like Jigglypuff. I mean, sure she's not great in Brawl but she was deadly in Melee, which everyone seems to hold to a higher regard.
Well now that Jigglypuff is being reclassified as a Normal/Fairy type, maybe she'll get some new moves for it?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 21, 2013, 01:13:11 am
the wii remote stuff is fucking stupid but at least they did away with it
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 21, 2013, 01:46:01 am
I think it's more a matter of why she needs to be there at all.  IIRC, the only reason she made it into Smash in the first place was that Nintendo was banking on Jigglypuff becoming a bigger mascot for Pokemon than Pikachu would.  That never really panned out, so some people feel she ought to be replaced with a more relevant, popular Pokemon character.
This. I never liked that thing in the show, I never liked it in Smash, there's so many other Pokemon that could fit in better but at this point she's pretty much a legacy character that'll be there forever because original 12. ;____;
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: V.E. on June 21, 2013, 02:26:41 am
I wish the trailer made the introduced the Villager as a surprise.
And I am a bit happy to see Sakurai make Bowser play less like an animal and more like Bowser.
This almost guarantees that Sakurai will finally flesh out Ganondorf's moveset!!!!!

I CANNOT wait to get this on the 3DS.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 21, 2013, 02:29:59 am
Shes gained quite the fanbase among Smash players. There'd be more people upset than happy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 21, 2013, 02:34:30 am
This almost guarantees that Sakurai will finally flesh out Ganondorf's moveset!!!!!
not really :???:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SageHarpuiaJDJ on June 21, 2013, 03:42:23 am
I hope a new fire emblem character comes to this smash. They are fun to play as, IMO. I also hope that Wolf or Falco return as well. I've never played as them, but I love playing as Fox. Wolf looks the most interesting.

The game looks promising. WFT and Megaman look cool. I just hope its mechanics allows for some simple to learn, yet hard to master combos.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Alpaca-San on June 21, 2013, 06:10:07 am
I think it's more a matter of why she needs to be there at all.  IIRC, the only reason she made it into Smash in the first place was that Nintendo was banking on Jigglypuff becoming a bigger mascot for Pokemon than Pikachu would.  That never really panned out, so some people feel she ought to be replaced with a more relevant, popular Pokemon character.
Jigglypuff is still a blast to play as when you get to know it.


Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 21, 2013, 06:32:48 am
the wii remote stuff is fucking stupid but at least they did away with it
There's this. Also Brawl Ganon was pretty much Melee Ganon with a few new animations and moves that were unsafe on hit. But whatevs. Smash U I hope has a better hitstun system, like, no dodging out of it. It'd help a lot with characters like Ganondorf if they make the transition because they won't be unsafe on hit cause of airdodging, it'll give the Flame Choke more power and reset props. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 21, 2013, 04:42:57 pm
i am now starting a mugen guild exclusive feature in which i review the daily picture
(http://i.imgur.com/ePogBBE.jpg)
this picture shows the 3ds exclusive stage based on the legend of zelda spirit tracks. this stage means that toon link won't be in the game or that if he was it would look very stupid. you might also notice mario and megaman are chilling on the train, probably discussing about their many videogame adventures and megaman's recent unemployment situation. i do not care very much for this stage so this picture gets 6/10 from me
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: walt on June 21, 2013, 04:47:30 pm
Such low poly garbage, and ultra low res textures. Also toon Link looks like he has Werner's Syndrome.

I give it 4/12
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 21, 2013, 04:49:30 pm
Well when you have to fit an entire roster of characters the size of a console game onto a handheld, textures are gonna look low-res so that it doesn't hold the console roster back. Still though, 20/1 penguin's mass in grams.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 21, 2013, 04:50:08 pm
you might as well say link looks like a disgusting 3d pig
(https://d3esbfg30x759i.cloudfront.net/pap/zlCfzRBg6y4mJp32AG)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 22, 2013, 12:04:25 am
Graphics are actually quite reminiscent of Melee's (albeit, shrunken down and with the black outline for clarity), so I'm happy with it. The 3DS can't handle Wii U graphics, I'm afraid. Also, 3DS games tend to look much worse in their screenshots than when played on the 3DS.

Fun, completely unrelated fact about my 3DS:
I accidentally let go of my 3DS and it smacked against the wall at quite some force. The only thing damaged was the wall's paintwork; the 3DS was (and still is) perfectly fine. The Game Brick's legacy lives on!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 22, 2013, 01:56:00 am
Platinum Games on Smash
Quote
Hideki Kamiya of Platinum Games, the company behind the Bayonetta franchise, recently supplied a brief statement on the matter saying that he'd be more than happy to have the Umbra Witch join the new Super Smash Bros. roster. Kamiya declares that the decision is up to Smash creator Masahiro Sakurai.

"So it's not something that I could comment on. In fact, you could probably ask Mr. Sakurai! If Mr. Sakurai wanted to put her in the game it probably would happen and I'd be more than happy to!"

Also, Sakurai went on record to say that Smash is "a four-player battle royal action game." Although he doesn't diss it as a fighting game, he says creating games for a certain genre limits your imagination.
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/jun/21/sakurai-says-smash-bros-isnt-fighting-game-completely-different-label-talks-game-development-fighting-genre-and-value-unpredictability/
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on June 22, 2013, 02:07:49 am
Yo if Sakurai put Bayo2 Bayonetta as even an assist trophy I would flip my shit.
If she ends up being playable I will possibly sell my everything to get a WiiU.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 22, 2013, 02:11:36 am
Ditto
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 22, 2013, 02:52:25 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordsir_zps7774d05c.png[/avatar]Every developer gets asked that question when a new Smash is in the works, and every single one answers the same way:  "It's not up to me, but I'd love it if Sakurai-senpai would notice me."
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 22, 2013, 05:11:19 am
While I am not expecting too much quality in the 3DS version, the fact that the thing can still run the game in rather high quality never stops to amaze me.

I can only expect that the WiiU version will be so much better.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 22, 2013, 02:52:48 pm
I can only expect that the WiiU version will be so much better.

True, but can you take your Wii U with U (:P)? Portable Smash Bros. is still a huge selling point for me.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hoshi on June 22, 2013, 05:26:55 pm
Smash 3DS is a handheld selling point for me.  I wasn't planning on getting one until I heard about that version of the game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 22, 2013, 09:58:32 pm
Just to make everyone cringe:

Y'know how Ike sounds like he's saying "Pizza!" during his recovery move? Well, you better not get him a peppeRoyni flavoured one!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 22, 2013, 11:08:12 pm
That was just...poor. :(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 22, 2013, 11:09:46 pm
:gonkgoi:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 22, 2013, 11:49:52 pm
Quote
Hideki Kamiya of Platinum Games, the company behind the Bayonetta franchise, recently supplied a brief statement on the matter saying that he'd be more than happy to have the Umbra Witch join the new Super Smash Bros. roster. Kamiya declares that the decision is up to Smash creator Masahiro Sakurai.
oh please god please
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 22, 2013, 11:51:38 pm
^THIS SO MUCH THIS!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 23, 2013, 12:49:13 am
if they wanted bayonetta in smash brothers they would've contacted him already

or maybe he's bluffing :twisted:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 23, 2013, 12:52:14 am
Dunno, unless they actually make her more "clean" then it could be a bluff.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 23, 2013, 01:02:29 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordugh.png[/avatar]It's not even a bluff.  It's literally just Kamiya saying, "Yeah, it would be cool."  It means nothing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 23, 2013, 01:19:09 am
I want to believe.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 23, 2013, 01:29:36 am
Now this Smash will be delayed for Bayonetta

I'm fine with Bayonetta being in, as long as she doesn't take up Snake's or/and Sonic's spot/s.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 23, 2013, 02:58:39 am
If Smash were delayed for Bayonetta's sake, I actually would be fine with that.  :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Retro Respecter on June 23, 2013, 03:00:35 am
You people and your Bayonetta fetish...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PBRTODD101 on June 23, 2013, 03:03:24 am
I just think all the crap she does is cool .-.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on June 23, 2013, 03:17:34 am
Dunno, unless they actually make her more "clean" then it could be a bluff.
Hey if Toonami could put black bikinis on naked girls, I'm sure Nintendo could think or SOMETHING (probably black bikini for Bayonetta)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on June 23, 2013, 03:23:18 am
how is toonami methods of censorship related at all to nintendo censorship?

they arent even in the same country
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 23, 2013, 03:27:17 am
Maybe they could always just have her Wicked Weave attacks not remove her clothing, or something. I dunno.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hoshi on June 23, 2013, 04:34:14 am
Or they could leave the attacks as they are in the original game and enable close up snap shots. P:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 23, 2013, 06:30:25 am
So, any more news on the development?

Or are we just speculating?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 24, 2013, 05:36:30 pm
here is the picture for 24/6
(http://i.imgur.com/OAEL5m8.jpg)

this is newcomer villager tripping while holding a plant. this is part of the attack animation. tripping as seen in brawl is no longer in the game. i don't think anyone's going to miss it. i give this picture 7/10 for the joke.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 24, 2013, 08:53:00 pm
Bayonetta is too boring for Smash Bros.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on June 24, 2013, 08:57:35 pm
I'd rather have another actual Nintendo character than another third party character  :-\

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 24, 2013, 08:57:57 pm
Let the Excitebike guy have his day for once.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 24, 2013, 09:01:27 pm
Bayonetta is too boring for Smash Bros.
Well it has Mario.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on June 24, 2013, 09:01:39 pm
Maybe they could always just have her Wicked Weave attacks not remove her clothing, or something. I dunno.

They don't get removed when wearing her alternate outfits, maybe thy could do it like that.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on June 24, 2013, 10:22:59 pm
Bayonetta is too boring for Smash Bros.
I seriously hope thats a joke? how is she boring.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 24, 2013, 10:25:45 pm
Only way Bayonetta would be censored is if Nintendo of America got involved. :mmhmm:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xhominid on June 24, 2013, 10:27:05 pm
Maybe they could always just have her Wicked Weave attacks not remove her clothing, or something. I dunno.

They don't get removed when wearing her alternate outfits, maybe thy could do it like that.

Bayonetta's clothes actually DOESN'T fully remove her clothing when she does Wicked Weaves, it actually reduces her to a One Piece Swimsuit.
It's actually her SUMMONS which remove her clothing entirely.
Title: New Character For Super Smash Bros?
Post by: DJH on June 24, 2013, 11:44:05 pm
So I was looking around on another forum when I came across this:


(http://i.imgur.com/Fp2B3Bh.jpg)

Lucina for the New Super Smash Bros?

However, other than this image, no other website, not even the official one had images that resembled the stage or the location.

Is this legit?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 24, 2013, 11:51:40 pm
I don't like lucina's shadow, so fake.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 25, 2013, 12:01:35 am
that lucina is a brawl hack

that fake is convincing but i would've used a more exciting pose than her standing
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJH on June 25, 2013, 12:29:49 am
that lucina is a brawl hack
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP6QwuDjQYs[/youtube]
that fake is convincing but i would've used a more exciting pose than her standing

Yeah, a few minutes after I posted the pic, it was revealed to be fake.

There's also countless "3DS/Wii U Styled" Mario hacks out there.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on June 25, 2013, 01:04:29 am
There are only two of them.
Besides, that shot looked hella fake.

They wouldn't show off an angle that weird on vertical offsets that high, shading that off, and so much nothing in between.
Nothing about that shot looks legitimate.
Besides, that "Wii U" case only appears from pics on the site. That would mean an update would have happened. There was none, just a Villager shot.

Though I do have that stage hack and it's fucking nice. Shot doesn't even do it justice.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on June 25, 2013, 05:09:50 am
http://www.destructoid.com/super-smash-bros-lacks-full-cast-due-to-time-constraints-256923.phtml

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The Super Smash Bros. series has featured a lot of characters across its three titles, but they won't all return for the next iteration. They simply can't according to designer Masahiro Sakurai -- there just isn't enough time.

Speaking to NowGamer, Sakurai laid out the reasoning behind the decision. "Adding new characters is not a simple addition -- it’s really multiplication. The amount of work, adding a character is multiplied and becomes bigger and bigger as you go. We can’t because of the amount of work it takes."

Sakurai appeared to lament the fact that some players' favorites would be omitted. "We're going to put in as many characters as we can, we really want to do that, because it's good for the fans and good for all of us. But in the event that we do have to cut some characters, I'd like to apologize in advance to those fans" he said.

Look on the bright side: if you find yourself without your Super Smash Bros. favorite, you can just pummel your opponent into submission with the Wii Fit Trainer's yoga moves.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jexsam on June 25, 2013, 06:41:00 am
Serious question, and I know I'm gonna get my ass kicked for even suggesting it: is DLC not an option?

If it was nearly any other game I wouldn't bring it up since DLC is horribly abused these days, but I really think Sakurai and his team would be inclined to do it right if they were to do it at all.  It just seems like selling characters - and only characters - over time would give them the wiggle room to add some things they couldn't squeeze in during the original development.  Are they just wholly against the idea or have they not even considered it?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hoshi on June 25, 2013, 06:43:32 am
And how is free DLC not an option?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on June 25, 2013, 07:04:22 am
I recall Sakurai saying he didn't want DLC as he wanted to deliver the best full game he could.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: vgma2 on June 25, 2013, 08:43:52 am
I'm guessing if he were to consider DLC, it would be near the end of (or after) the game's development to add in all the things he wasn't able to within the development time.

If he doesn't then... well...  :(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 25, 2013, 04:40:45 pm
25/6
(http://i.imgur.com/J3rSUwj.jpg)
link, from the legend of zelda, finally makes his smash brothers debut. a highly requested character since the series started, link is coming to the smash party on the wii u and 3ds. this attack seems to be his spin attack, just like in the zelda games. one can only assume he'll also use his wide array of items during battle. i, for one, am very excited to play as one of gaming's greatest heroes. i give this picture 10/10
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on June 25, 2013, 04:52:40 pm
I really wish they would use the wind waker look for Zelda characters.

It just looks so much nicer.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 25, 2013, 05:11:45 pm
They did that in Brawl with Toon Link, and it removed what made Wind Waker's art style really pop out, no cel-shading made it kinda just "disproportionate Link with cat-eyes" as opposed to Wind Waker Link, IMO. Not to say Toon Link as an idea was bad but, yeah.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on June 25, 2013, 09:23:38 pm
slyward sword link would be toon link with tp link's proportions so theres that (or tp link with toon link's art style whatever the shit)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 25, 2013, 11:34:46 pm
I really wish they would use the wind waker look for Zelda characters.

It just looks so much nicer.
This version of Link is far more bad ass looking IMO.
Speaking of Link, I hope they buff him in this version so he doesn't play like a chump.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 25, 2013, 11:39:19 pm
Speaking of Link, I hope they buff him in this version so he doesn't play like a chump.
I dunno, he was a little meh in Brawl but I still saw a fair few users play Link when I last played on Random Brawls via Wi-Fi.

But yeah, he could use some buffing I guess.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 25, 2013, 11:45:45 pm
I'm one of the few who do.  ;P
His recovery and his weight are some of my biggest issues with him.  The dude is a target for grabs, chain grabs, off edge battle, etc.
He's gimped far too easily IMO.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 25, 2013, 11:57:36 pm
On the subject on DLC:

Why is DLC out of the question? If there are characters they simply could not include due to time constraints and budget issues, can they just make individual characters and release them in packs to help relax some of those constraints? It is not like Nintendo is a stranger to DLC (they did them for Fire Emblem: Awakening).

And I am not surprised that some characters are being dropped. A lot of the characters are redundant and were not frequently played nor were popular. It only makes sense to drop them.

Heck, I do rotate the roster in my main MUGEN at times to include only the best characters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 25, 2013, 11:59:46 pm
There's not much a reason to use normal Link in Brawl because Toon Link is the same thing but so much better.  They really didn't think it through at all.  :/
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on June 26, 2013, 12:04:33 am
Well yeah, there were alot more Toon Links than normal Links, It got to the point where I was getting sick of fighting them really often.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 26, 2013, 12:09:22 am
Toon Link is a prick.
He's got a shit load of priority for a little fella too.
There's not much a reason to use normal Link in Brawl because Toon Link is the same thing but so much better.  They really didn't think it through at all.  :/
The same can be said for Young Link from SSBM.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 26, 2013, 12:13:31 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava2.png[/avatar]
On the subject on DLC:

Why is DLC out of the question? If there are characters they simply could not include due to time constraints and budget issues, can they just make individual characters and release them in packs to help relax some of those constraints? It is not like Nintendo is a stranger to DLC (they did them for Fire Emblem: Awakening).
I believe the reasoning that was given is that they don't want to plan on having DLC so that they can focus on having the game the best that it can be right out of the box.  They may consider DLC in the future after release, but they want to plan around never having any so that they can focus on making it perfect at launch.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 26, 2013, 05:37:31 am
If they do not want to have DLC that is fine.

It is just that the Smash Bros. Fanboys will have to live without a few characters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 26, 2013, 08:39:01 am
The important thing is that, even though they used Skyward Sword Link, they made him left-handed.

YES, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT >:[
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 26, 2013, 09:31:25 am
Lol, I thought I was the only one who cared about that.  ;P
The fact that he was right-handed in Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword pierced my heart.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 26, 2013, 09:33:08 am
He was right handed in TP because the Wii remote was designed for right handed people


.....and completely shafted lefties.  What the hell Nintendo?  Link would not approve.  :no:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on June 26, 2013, 09:57:40 am
Lefty in GC port, interestingly, IIRC. It's not as important in Twilight Princess because the combat there was just swing the remote. In Skyward Sword, however, the way you swing it is very important for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 26, 2013, 10:08:25 am
I can speak only for myself, but I had absolutely no problems with neither TP nor SS, using the Wiimote in my left hand. It worked fine, and disparity in which hand was the dominant one wasn't really all that noticeable. I'd have liked a left-handed mode or something, but beggars can't be choosers. Especially when adding one would kind of be nigh-impossible, apparently.

Lefty in GC port, interestingly, IIRC.
Wii was the port, and they flipped literally everything to switch it. The gameworld, the models, the assests... kinda nuts.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 26, 2013, 06:23:17 pm
26/6
(http://i.imgur.com/3WLSKVV.jpg)
this picture, unfortunately, confirms that animal crossing's gyroid has been relegated to background character status, instead of being a fully playable character as my many posts, tweets and miiverse drawings demanded. sakurai is ruining the game as usual. 1/10

sakurai also posted the following in miiverse
スマブラコミュニティに投稿ありがとうございます。私だけではなく、スタッフや関係者なども見てますよー。 (質問などには答えられずスミマセン)

running it through google translate it basically says "thanks for posting in the smash bros community. rather than just me, game staff are also reading the things that are posted (sorry for not replying to any questions)"
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on June 26, 2013, 09:48:04 pm
There's one freaky thing about Gyroids, and that's to do with them being based on Haniwa, which are a clay figures that are burried with the dead. How do you get Gyroids in Animal Crossing? Exactly.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 26, 2013, 11:44:58 pm
On the subject on DLC:

Why is DLC out of the question? If there are characters they simply could not include due to time constraints and budget issues, can they just make individual characters and release them in packs to help relax some of those constraints? It is not like Nintendo is a stranger to DLC (they did them for Fire Emblem: Awakening).
I believe the reasoning that was given is that they don't want to plan on having DLC so that they can focus on having the game the best that it can be right out of the box.  They may consider DLC in the future after release, but they want to plan around never having any so that they can focus on making it perfect at launch.

So, basically, they're doing DLC the way every company should do - make the game as complete as possible and THEN churn out the extras.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 27, 2013, 01:44:52 am
If they do DLC right, they'll be in the money.
I can already see the slew of cash certain classic Brawlers (Mewtwo, Roy, etc.) would bring in.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: aznperson569M on June 27, 2013, 02:00:48 am
According to Sakurai, they're lacking a full roster at the moment. So DLC could be a possibility, though I can assume costume swaps would be easier than adding old characters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 27, 2013, 02:08:00 am
According to Sakurai, they're lacking a full roster at the moment. So DLC could be a possibility, though I can assume costume swaps would be easier than adding old characters.

so that doesn't mean there's going to be more third-party characters right?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on June 27, 2013, 02:52:14 am
Not likely, if they have to go through the trouble of securing the rights and licenses to said characters. Those would cost a pretty penny.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on June 27, 2013, 03:07:23 am
Not likely, if they have to go through the trouble of securing the rights and licenses to said characters. Those would cost a pretty penny.

good point, and here i thought they're gonna keep the title of super smash bros. universe, but i think it was scrapped or something
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on June 27, 2013, 03:13:10 am
It was never an official title to begin with.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 27, 2013, 03:39:02 am
According to Sakurai, they're lacking a full roster at the moment. So DLC could be a possibility, though I can assume costume swaps would be easier than adding old characters.
I doubt they'd go this route.  It'd suck if they did though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on June 27, 2013, 03:42:47 am
So, basically, they're doing DLC the way every company should do - make the game as complete as possible and THEN churn out the extras.
That IS how a good majority of DLC is done. The game gets finished long before it ships.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Prototype God on June 27, 2013, 03:45:25 am
Instead, make way for its actual Official Title: "Super Smash Bros for 3DS and Wii U". SIIIGGGGGGHHHHHHHH
If only all games could have names that amazing. "Zelda for Wii U", "Halo 5 on Xbone", and "Gravity Rush 2 on that Vita we really want you to buy. Please?"
Edit: Oh whoops forgot to quote drewski lol
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on June 27, 2013, 12:10:02 pm
http://nintendoeverything.com/126625/sakurai-on-how-smash-bros-wii-u3ds-came-to-be-not-opposed-to-dlc-patching-why-villagertrainer-are-in-more/

[quoteYou can still manage the appearance of items, but you cannot disable the damage caused by the stages. If we propose such an option, it might as well be PlayStation all-stars![/quote]

Oh man, if that wasn't a burn, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Cazaki on June 27, 2013, 01:09:52 pm
And boy is PS All-Stars bad.

Usually stage hazards don't matter much to most people because there's usually stages like Final Destination that will fulfill "hardcore" needs.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on June 27, 2013, 02:51:49 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordimpatient.png[/avatar]
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in fact, we do not expect to include a similar story mode this time. As you already know, Smash Bros. has a large number of different characters, which were entitled to their own cutscenes in the story Mode. These were supposed to be rewards for players finishing this mode with each of the characters.

I think it was something fun for the players, but at the same time, all the cutscenes finally found themselves on the internet. Players watched them online, which was not really sticking with what we had originally planned. It is for this reason that we are not going to do something similar this time.
So, he's ditching the story mode completely because he doesn't want people to watch the cutscenes on Youtube.

What.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 27, 2013, 04:16:07 pm
I kind of love how he is still very old school.

here's hoping for a dlc/expansion pack released in two years and for a decent price.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 27, 2013, 04:55:22 pm
Quote
It is for this reason that we are not going to do something similar this time.
So, he's ditching the story mode completely
not really, i get the impression they'll take a simpler approach if anything.

27/6
(http://i.imgur.com/2B3wSnX.jpg)
here's fox doing a flash kick while link and pikachu carefully dodge it. fox u dumbass. it is a good illustration of how attack effects look like in this game. 7/10
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on June 28, 2013, 06:38:37 am
R.I.P. the old Smash Brawl DOJO. :(

But I guess it's a good thing, to make room for the new games coming out next year. ;)

Also, Fox doing Guile's Flash Kick? What's next? Sonic appearing again, throwing Sonic Booms at players?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on June 28, 2013, 07:11:09 am
That has always been Fox's move.  It's more of a backflip kick.  :P
It doesn't have the hang time that Guile's Flash Kick has.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 28, 2013, 07:20:48 am
Also, Fox doing Guile's Flash Kick? What's next? Sonic appearing again, throwing Sonic Booms at players?
FUCKING HOMERUN N-MARIO TSS TSS
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: walt on June 28, 2013, 04:33:51 pm
Most in one place, I lol'd

http://kotaku.com/fake-smash-bros-character-screens-flood-the-internet-513785018
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on June 28, 2013, 04:46:52 pm
EVEN SPEEDWAGON IS IN ON THIS
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 28, 2013, 05:41:16 pm
28/6
(http://s0.uploads.im/rwWLs.jpg)
here we see wii fit trainer and mario doing dhalsim's headbutt attack, further evidence of the game ripping off street fighter. 7/10
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJH on June 28, 2013, 08:26:39 pm
28/6
(http://s0.uploads.im/rwWLs.jpg)
here we see wii fit trainer and mario doing dhalsim's headbutt attack, further evidence of the game ripping off street fighter. 7/10

That's just Mario in the middle of a double jump and I have no idea what Wii Fit Trainer is doing.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Tyrant Belial on June 28, 2013, 08:48:49 pm
:woosh:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Aldo on June 28, 2013, 09:10:01 pm
:whooshuhuge: ... meh, it doesn´t work.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on June 28, 2013, 09:26:35 pm
Ya'll should've went with it. ;)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 28, 2013, 09:27:21 pm
That's just Mario in the middle of a double jump and I have no idea what Wii Fit Trainer is doing.
:bigwhoosh:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: GTA on June 28, 2013, 09:51:48 pm
(http://s18.postimg.org/vuzi7i4q1/sidoniaforssbwiiu.png)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on June 28, 2013, 09:57:11 pm
nice, finally an ironic twist on the smash bros 4 reveal meme
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MellyInChains on June 28, 2013, 10:00:52 pm
R.I.P. the old Smash Brawl DOJO. :(

But I guess it's a good thing, to make room for the new games coming out next year. ;)

Also, Fox doing Guile's Flash Kick? What's next? Sonic appearing again, throwing Sonic Booms at players?

just a hunch but i'm going to assume you're one of those guys that scream RIPOFF at any other fighting game that's not street fighter. am i correct?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: GTA on June 28, 2013, 10:06:35 pm
nice, finally an ironic twist on the smash bros 4 reveal meme

also her final smash is her loud screaming effect, it's very dangerous and wipes out all the opponent of the level.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 01, 2013, 07:39:42 pm
1/7
(http://i.imgur.com/9GlexIB.jpg)
here's kirby jumping. megaman's yellow devil is also standing there. kirby's placement makes it look like he's on top of yellow devil, or spawning from him. maybe yellow devil is kirby's mother. i'm assuming yellow devil is an assist trophy. that or he's a stage thing in megaman's stage. 6/10
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on July 01, 2013, 07:53:35 pm
I still wonder why they chose the Yellow Devil in this. The background is clearly the 2nd Mega Man game's Wily Castle. Wouldn't it make sense to use the Mecha Dragon? Though it seems like they're kind of mixing it up with both MM1 and MM2 elements for this game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 01, 2013, 07:58:50 pm
megaman has powerups from a bunch of his games. who cares
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on July 01, 2013, 08:03:22 pm
megaman is starting to become the new ryu...as far as showing up in random fighting games..
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 01, 2013, 08:12:35 pm
What random fighting games has he shown up in besides Smash and SFxT?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on July 01, 2013, 08:19:43 pm
Does Onimusha Blade Warriors count as a fighting game?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 01, 2013, 08:25:58 pm
furthermore how many random fighting games did ryu show up in
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on July 01, 2013, 08:27:08 pm
I was about to ask that. How is it random for a fighting game character to appear in a fighting game?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 01, 2013, 08:27:45 pm
You all forgot the most important part of the argument.

Smash Bros isn't a fighting game.
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Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on July 01, 2013, 08:32:40 pm
damn, im just saying...appearing in all..well most capcom games...smash....tekken...and little cameos here and there...thats all...dont kill me guys XD
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJH on July 01, 2013, 09:07:44 pm
damn, im just saying...appearing in all..well most capcom games...smash....tekken...and little cameos here and there...thats all...dont kill me guys XD

Megaman is one of capcom's most recognizable character

Also, what "Random" Fighting games are Megaman and Ryu Showing up in?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJ_HANNIBALROYCE on July 01, 2013, 09:21:34 pm
forget i said anything....
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Post by: walt on July 01, 2013, 09:21:51 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/9GlexIB.jpg)

What is wrong with the eye, why so low poly count?
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Post by: Person Man on July 01, 2013, 09:38:54 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordshrug.png[/avatar]Maybe it's not 100% finished yet?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 01, 2013, 09:41:12 pm
assist trophies/pokemon in smash brothers brawl also had low polycounts compared to the playable characters. makes sense imo since they're not on the screen very long and you could potentially have several of them onscreen at the same time.
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Post by: Nero D. on July 01, 2013, 10:27:20 pm
yeh i imagine yellow devil to be like the redeads in smash bros former


also slash claw, flame sword, 7 and 8 respectively, i dont think yd being in this game should matter at all, specially since there will be more mm character/villain appearances, hell maybe even as playable characters









no wait, as sonic and snake have shown, there will most likely only be one 3rd party playable character per series maybe
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Post by: Cazaki on July 01, 2013, 10:39:38 pm
Is it me, or does Wily's Castle look drawn? Maybe the game makes it looks like the background is drawn? It looks pretty good in a still picture
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 02, 2013, 09:44:23 pm
2/7
(http://i.imgur.com/1QIOys1.jpg)
here's a picture showing the three newcomers and their blank expressions. could this mean we'll see a new character tomorrow? probably not but this is a good picture nonetheless. 8/10
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Post by: Bastard Mami on July 02, 2013, 10:38:35 pm
are they scared of him ?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PBRTODD101 on July 02, 2013, 10:44:07 pm
All of my attention for that picture is centered on the Wii Fit Trainer.
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Post by: Kanbei on July 03, 2013, 01:34:48 am
Megaman's evil stare. lol
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Post by: GOH on July 03, 2013, 10:54:00 am
Super Souless Bros
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 04, 2013, 01:47:31 am
3/7
(http://i.imgur.com/GDj34SI.jpg)
Pic of the day. This pic says it all.

i get the impression dk's up+b move was reworked to have a wider vertical impact area. i don't have a lot more to say here since this picture is not very exciting. 5/10
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Post by: Moon Girard on July 04, 2013, 04:40:20 pm
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/03/creating-super-smash-bros-for-wii-u-and-3ds
Quote
On the topic of the roster, Sakurai noted that the 3DS version of the game, with its hardware’s technical limitations, would likely keep the volume of the roster in check, though no characters had been cut so far, and any determination to that effect is a ways away. Which characters ultimately are included will be the result of careful consideration, ranging from which fighters have unique characteristics, equally representing franchises and how signature traits carry over well from previous games like Brawl. Sakurai did tell me that “multiple character” combatants like the Ice Climbers were proving a technical challenge on the 3DS.

Seems like good news for Snake fans at least and seems clones would go before anyone else.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: walt on July 04, 2013, 04:44:02 pm
I ... don't see how.

When they say "not cutting anyone" they mean from the console version cast, which hasn't been completely revealed yet. But they did mention they keep 3rd party characters to a minimum.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 04, 2013, 05:17:52 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discorduseethis_zps4ee97f62.png[/avatar]Yeah, I don't see what that has to do with Snake.

On the other hand he did kind of accidentally confirm that Ice Climbers are coming back, so...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duo Solo on July 04, 2013, 08:59:22 pm
Might be replaced with newcomers like Little Mac. Not counting the clones (and 3rd party), theres about 30 characters who offer something different.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 05, 2013, 12:38:53 am
The fact that he says about multiple character combatants like the Ice Climbers might mean more of these types of characters will be included.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 05, 2013, 12:46:02 am
4/7
(http://i.imgur.com/jWIZwle.jpg)
Pic of the day. This stage appears in a Puzzle Swap panel.
the puzzle swap panel sakurai refers to is (http://i.imgur.com/t4N5pd2.png). we already knew this was a fire emblem awakening stage so this isn't exactly news. 5/10.



i don't really see how more complicated characters like the ice climbers (also olimar with his pikmin, possibly zelda/sheik and samus/zss) would be an issue since the gamecube could handle them fine, then again i'm not developing the goddamn game. i hope the ice climbers are still in because i liked using them



also from that ign interview
IGN guy being asked a question by Sakurai said:
What Nintendo character would I want added? (A mob of seven Bowser's Koopalings, which prompted Sakurai to caution the 3DS's limits with fighters like the Ice Climbers.)
god damn that's a terrible idea
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DeadAssAccount on July 05, 2013, 12:56:29 am
4/7
(http://i.imgur.com/jWIZwle.jpg)
Pic of the day. This stage appears in a Puzzle Swap panel.
the puzzle swap panel sakurai refers to is (http://i.imgur.com/t4N5pd2.png). we already knew this was a fire emblem awakening stage so this isn't exactly news. 5/10.



i don't really see how more complicated characters like the ice climbers (also olimar with his pikmin, possibly zelda/sheik and samus/zss) would be an issue since the gamecube could handle them fine, then again i'm not developing the goddamn game. i hope the ice climbers are still in because i liked using them
That's a good looking right there, but I'm a bit worried if stages like these are gonna have one too many hazards.

 Hopefully for me, there aren't gonna be too many stages with lots of hazards in them. Which explains why there's a small amount of stages acceptable for tournaments.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 05, 2013, 12:57:00 am
3DS version is looking awesome. I do hope the Ice Climbers return...

...in fact, I hope they make a new Ice Climber game like they did with Kid Icarus.
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Post by: Person Man on July 05, 2013, 03:58:50 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discorddunno_zps297811b9.png[/avatar]
i don't really see how more complicated characters like the ice climbers (also olimar with his pikmin, possibly zelda/sheik and samus/zss) would be an issue since the gamecube could handle them fine, then again i'm not developing the goddamn game. i hope the ice climbers are still in because i liked using them
I'm just speculating with this, but I'd bet it has something to do with the fact that with IC the player is technically controlling two separate characters simultaneously.  Characters like Zelda/Sheik or Pokemon Trainer swap back and forth, and Olimar's pikmin are essentially items.  But with IC you've got two separate characters, one with a very limited AI in case they get separated, responding to the same inputs at the same time.  I can see how that could cause some hiccups.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kanbei on July 05, 2013, 10:56:40 am
IGN guy being asked a question by Sakurai said:
What Nintendo character would I want added? (A mob of seven Bowser's Koopalings, which prompted Sakurai to caution the 3DS's limits with fighters like the Ice Climbers.)
god damn that's a terrible idea
I agree, why the Koopalings? New players are barely going to know them, plus they're not very interesting. I would have said Little Mac, Isaac, or Saki. But whatever, IGN is dumb...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 05, 2013, 11:11:48 am
I agree, why the Koopalings? New players are barely going to know them

Seeing as they've been featured in New Super Mario Bros. Wii, 2 and U (and most likely whichever rehash Ninty want to make next), I'm sure newer gamers know who they are. Unfortunately, I can't call them by their real names because I watched the damn cartoon first...Big Mouth, Bully, Kootie-pie, Cheatsy, Hip, Hop and Kooky :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 05, 2013, 11:25:35 am
Fuck the Koopalings, even Baby Bowser or Bowser Jr. or what the fuck ever would be a better character than them.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on July 05, 2013, 01:49:07 pm
Am I the only one that would considers Sukapon to be a good character to bring back?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on July 05, 2013, 05:15:36 pm
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/186/9/c/smashfreitag_by_reinhold_hoffmann-d6c33m0.jpg)
Pic of the day, GBK edition, its rush hour.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 05, 2013, 05:35:20 pm
never do that again
5/7
(http://i.imgur.com/bxomOsw.jpg)
Pic of the day. Adorable!

this is mario with rush. smash brothers makes dream matches possible. 6/10
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Post by: Bastard Mami on July 05, 2013, 05:41:44 pm
now there's someone that will survive after mario jumps on him (I hope).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: walt on July 05, 2013, 05:48:59 pm
the universe will implode D:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJH on July 06, 2013, 02:35:40 am
If there's one thing I would like to be balanced, since that's what they're doing is moves.

It seems rather pointless when there's a move that's weak or can be replaced with better moves (Ex. F.L.U.D.D, an Edgeguarding move that takes time to charge up. Mario's fair takes much less time to use.)

I would also definitely like the game with hitstun, because any move you attempted to do in brawl, the enemy could just do a weak move and cancel the combo, or just get away quickly. I assume brawl removed this to make the game more forgiving than melee. Usually once somebody starts air comboing you, it's hard to get out and survive. Except Meta Knight, who plays like he's in Melee.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 08, 2013, 05:05:43 pm
8/7
(http://i.imgur.com/dAOCxta.jpg)
Pic of the day. The reflective shields of the Guardian Orbitars have patterns on them.

i didn't play kid icarus uprising so i don't really have much to say here.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on July 08, 2013, 06:00:29 pm
8/7
(http://i.imgur.com/dAOCxta.jpg)
Pic of the day. The reflective shields of the Guardian Orbitars have patterns on them.

i didn't play kid icarus uprising so i don't really have much to say here.

I played kid icarus uprising before
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Ejectok on July 08, 2013, 06:05:11 pm
8/7
(http://i.imgur.com/dAOCxta.jpg)
Pic of the day. The reflective shields of the Guardian Orbitars have patterns on them.

i didn't play kid icarus uprising so i don't really have much to say here.

The sheild looks a bit pixelated. But I guess becuase its still in development?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on July 08, 2013, 06:10:05 pm
Does it really matter? it's not really going to be noticed in-game anyway.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Ejectok on July 08, 2013, 10:09:20 pm
Does it really matter? it's not really going to be noticed in-game anyway.

It doesn't. I just thought they were going all out with HD in this game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 09, 2013, 12:43:59 am
they're textures used for only one attack and the pixels aren't noticeable in regular gameplay. using more memory on a higher resolution version of that texture would be a waste
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 09, 2013, 02:19:52 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordchocolatemilk.png[/avatar]That's the way it is in pretty much every game.  Zoom way in on something you're never meant to see up close, and the texture looks wonky.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 09, 2013, 05:25:40 pm
9/7
(http://i.imgur.com/FXiUCmC.jpg)
Pic of the day. This shows a traveling stage in the moment just after Bowser got blasted from below in the first trailer.

this might seem like a new stage at a glance, but it's part of the mario stage in the 3ds version, with the bigass spikes. it is a scrolling stage. i don't like scrolling stages. 6/10
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on July 10, 2013, 08:20:40 am
I played kid icarus uprising before
Thanks, drewski.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 10, 2013, 06:09:59 pm
10/7
(http://i.imgur.com/EaHwAVS.jpg)
Pic of the day. 
Mysterious solar power.


what a confusing picture, let's go to miiverse for some comments.
Quote
Alex
Wii Fit Trainer is absorbing the fat from Bowser's body. Then, she uses energy to give DK, Bowser's fatness.

Henry
Hm... Perhaps Kumatora will be joining?... The first thing I thought of was Hamaon, but that's just ridiculous... My assumption is that Kumatora will be joining... Anyway, it will be great.

vandewax
im guessing its either zero suit samus transforming, a new final smash for pikachu, or one of a new unnanounced characters moves.

Victor
por favor sonic

dragonogon
I have 2 Theorys. 1: It's Goku doing solar flare. 2:It's Issac from Golden Sun.

dragonogon
It could also be Geno.

M.S.
please add bowser jr.

Ariel
I believe the pose is dubbed, "Sun Salutation". Looks like another move for the Wii Fit Trainer.
that was helpful
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Post by: 修羅 on July 10, 2013, 07:45:54 pm
Praise the sun.

Solaire x WFT canon otp
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 10, 2013, 11:21:49 pm
She's performing Tager's spark bolt from Blazblue, obviously.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on July 10, 2013, 11:31:31 pm
Praise the sun.
Ayee, Lol.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on July 11, 2013, 10:40:41 am
Old Snake with Solar Gun confirmed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDV7ZAYaQis
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 11, 2013, 06:59:19 pm
11/7
(http://i.imgur.com/60uBrOx.jpg)
Pic of the day. 
A transforming view of the Mega Buster.

probably said this already but the megaman model in this game looks great. 8/10
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJH on July 11, 2013, 07:15:27 pm
11/7
(http://i.imgur.com/60uBrOx.jpg)
Pic of the day. 
A transforming view of the Mega Buster.

probably said this already but the megaman model in this game looks great. 8/10

I don't like how he looks like he has the same expression on all the time though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on July 11, 2013, 07:54:34 pm
11/7
(http://i.imgur.com/60uBrOx.jpg)
Pic of the day. 
A transforming view of the Mega Buster.

probably said this already but the megaman model in this game looks great. 8/10

I don't like how he looks like he has the same expression on all the time though.

Tell that to his expressionless 8-bit sprite.
(http://gcnmario.free.fr/SSBMM_S2.gif)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 11, 2013, 09:56:55 pm
expressions were very limited in 8-bit sprites for obvious reasons. the likes of mario link and kirby should still have a blank stare under that logic. however, megaman is a robot so i don't expect him to have a lot of different facial expressions
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 11, 2013, 10:03:03 pm
You guys are a bunch of robo-racists.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: walt on July 11, 2013, 10:13:28 pm
I agree on the fact that the expresionless face looks weird. In later, higher resolution games, at least he looked "angry", and even in the artwork he does have expressions (http://www.retrocpu.com/nes/images/games/m/mega_man_5.cover.front.jpg) :S
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Post by: Nero D. on July 11, 2013, 10:15:05 pm
^
^
implying robots are a race of beings with the term "racists", and not wiry, oily, heaps of junk who only serve



the correct term would be robot............ists
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 11, 2013, 10:18:59 pm
You guys are a bunch of robo-racists.
Says the man, who only likes a few specific kinds of robots. :mmhmm:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on July 11, 2013, 10:23:53 pm
He's clearly just emotional dead from the way Capcom has been treating him. Actually if you look at his sprites in MM1-MM10  and Power Fighters/Battles he has the same face 90 percent of the time if their sticking his sprites their not technically wrong.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on July 11, 2013, 10:32:27 pm
implying robots are a race of beings with the term "racists", and not wiry, oily, heaps of junk who only serve
The hatred you are spewing is literally figuratively sickening.

Says the man, who only likes a few specific kinds of robots. :mmhmm:
what
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 11, 2013, 10:35:00 pm
how do you feel about this robot ?

(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24000000/Nano-chan-nichijou-24031059-1280-720.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Roman55 on July 11, 2013, 10:37:47 pm
I refuse to give Toasters the same rights as a human.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 11, 2013, 10:37:59 pm
i like blank expression, 8-bit proportions, voiceless megaman better than mvc's always angry, massively legged, annoying as fuck voice megaman.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on July 11, 2013, 10:42:20 pm
what
He's trying to insult you on your Gundam fandom or something.

i like blank expression, 8-bit proportions, voiceless megaman better than mvc's always angry, massively legged, annoying as fuck voice megaman.
I wonder why some people just won't accept it, Nintendo are basing it on his 8-Bit times and people are just complaining about it.

Isn't that when Megaman was loved and all?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on July 11, 2013, 10:50:53 pm
how do you feel about this robot ?

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/24000000/Nano-chan-nichijou-24031059-1280-720.jpg
I think that that's a big doughnut.

He's trying to insult you on your Gundam fandom or something.
It doesn't make any sense, is what I'm saying.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 11, 2013, 11:13:46 pm
i like blank expression, 8-bit proportions, voiceless megaman better than mvc's always angry, massively legged, annoying as fuck voice megaman.

MVC's MegaMan was based on Megaman 8, where he was everything you described.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 11, 2013, 11:14:59 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discord8bit.png[/avatar]I also find it kind of strange that they're adhering so strictly to recreating the 8-bit in game sprites like this.  I mean, it's not like the perfectly blank expression is what's iconic or anything. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 11, 2013, 11:20:22 pm
I'm not going to flood this post with bandwidth leeching images, but if you look at the Japanese Rockman box arts, he has a similarly somewhat stoic facial expression.  I think Capcom intentionally went with that.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 11, 2013, 11:31:37 pm
MVC's MegaMan was based on Megaman 8, where he was everything you described.
?

Megaman looks pretty much just as stoic in his megaman 8 sprites as he does in the old games.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 11, 2013, 11:32:18 pm
The difference being that he spoke.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 11, 2013, 11:32:55 pm
Well that part is true.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on July 11, 2013, 11:45:14 pm
They're just sticking to Megaman's 8-bit appearance, It isn't a big deal. 
I think it's cool that they're makeing him more "robotic" rather than human-like.
When Megaman 1st appeared in the new trailer, I thought it was fucking badass how his eyes sorta turned on.  :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 11, 2013, 11:47:39 pm
This has been done in Smash Bros before.  Wario in Brawl had very jerky movement animations to emphasize the strangeness of WarioWare.  If you left Sonic idle for a while, he would start tapping his foot like in the old Genesis games.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on July 12, 2013, 12:41:06 am
This has been done in Smash Bros before.  Wario in Brawl had very jerky movement animations to emphasize the strangeness of WarioWare.
I'm not sure if I agree with that, considering every WarioWare game did has very smooth animation the majority of the time.
Most of what he does is reminiscent to how comically stiff his animation was in Wario Land 2 and 3. Wario's quirkiness was kinda always universal. Even in SM64DS he had somewhat erratic animation which is pretty funny.

I mean, it's not like the perfectly blank expression is what's iconic or anything. 
Say that to current Capcom themselves thinking anything 8-bit has to be represented in 8-bit Megaman style with the same expression for everyone. ('cept Dan)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on July 12, 2013, 01:29:27 am
Warioware's GBA game had 8-bit games with jerky movement, and other non retro minigames with considerably jerky movement compared to the FLUIDITY of Brawl. Don't even try to say Wario Land wasn't smooth, it was smoother than WarioWare.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on July 12, 2013, 02:57:26 am
implying robots are a race of beings with the term "racists", and not wiry, oily, heaps of junk who only serve
The hatred you are spewing is literally figuratively sickening.

excuse me, that was so un...PC of me /beepboopbop


Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on July 12, 2013, 05:47:43 am
Warioware's GBA game had 8-bit games with jerky movement, and other non retro minigames with considerably jerky movement compared to the FLUIDITY of Brawl. Don't even try to say Wario Land wasn't smooth, it was smoother than WarioWare.
I never said Wario Land wasn't smooth. I said some of the animation was comically stiff, from the tiptoe walk speed to the shoulder ram impact on certain obstacles (some make him stay as is and bounce on his feet (like in Brawl) while some will make him take his arm back a bit from the pickup frames to return to idle stance) to even how he floats up when stung/inflated where he would often stop animating altogether until he starts viciously flailing about.

Plus, I did specify 2 and 3. Having played perhaps a bit too much WL2, I remember this much. The Virtual Boy one I remember being silky smooth and 4 was... kind of a return to roots in term of quality I say. It was quite stunning.

Also, those 8-bit games are characteristic to 9-Volt. If anything, Wario's movement would be more derived from those Rhythm Heaven-esque microgames.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 12, 2013, 08:40:42 am
what
He's trying to insult you on your Gundam fandom or something.
What? I like Gundam, and I really should start watching 0080 again.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: vgma2 on July 12, 2013, 11:37:38 am
OLIMAR IS CONFIRMED!
http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/pikmin.html (http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/pikmin.html)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 12, 2013, 01:30:11 pm
Hmm, I'm not sure whenever I should be happy or not...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on July 12, 2013, 01:40:08 pm
I kinda enjoyed playing Olimar on Brawl so this is good news for me.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on July 12, 2013, 01:41:24 pm
...meh. I can't really get all...hype about it, honestly. Wario and Luigi are the returners I'm really waiting for, they're both gonna be back.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 12, 2013, 01:47:38 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordintrigued.png[/avatar]Nice.  Hardly surprising what with Pikmin 3 coming out next month, but still nice.

Now let's see Ness and Lucas come back, hm?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kirishima on July 12, 2013, 01:50:26 pm
Kinda was expecting Mewtwo because his movie is out later this month and would've been a good promotion, but I'm okay with this. Olimar was going to return anyways.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 12, 2013, 01:52:10 pm
Nice.  Hardly surprising what with Pikmin 3 coming out next month, but still nice.

Now let's see Ness and Lucas come back, hm?
Ness actually gets a good chance of reappearing, not only because he appeared in every Smash Bros so far. I also heard that Earthbound will appear in the eShop as well, so adding Ness to Smash Bros 4 would be a good way to advertise this.
Lucas, on the other hand...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 12, 2013, 03:34:20 pm
Kinda was expecting Mewtwo because his movie is out later this month and would've been a good promotion, but I'm okay with this. Olimar was going to return anyways.
what??? nobody wanted this cheap fuck back, not even olimar players
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on July 12, 2013, 03:37:49 pm
What does that have to do with expecting him?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Ricepigeon on July 12, 2013, 05:11:44 pm
If they do readd Mewtwo you can be sure as fuck they're going to incorporate both of his X&Y formes
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 12, 2013, 05:27:20 pm
12/7
(http://i.imgur.com/KFgwsS5.jpg)
Pic of the day. Pikmin & Captain Olimar have landed! Congrats on the launch of Pikmin 3 in Japan!
it's nice to see an update that shows a returning character. you can also notice a new pikmin stage in the background of several shots, which is hopefully less gimmicky than brawl's. there's a plug for pikmin 3 in the character's page making the timing for this all the more obvious.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 12, 2013, 06:00:48 pm
Kinda was expecting Mewtwo because his movie is out later this month and would've been a good promotion, but I'm okay with this. Olimar was going to return anyways.

Wyanut Genesect? I'd love to see him get in!

Still waiting for Falcon to be announced. It just wouldn't be Smash without Falcon :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on July 12, 2013, 10:00:22 pm
Kinda was expecting Mewtwo because his movie is out later this month and would've been a good promotion, but I'm okay with this. Olimar was going to return anyways.

Wyanut Genesect? I'd love to see him get in!

Still waiting for Falcon to be announced. It just wouldn't be Smash without Falcon :P

yeah, and i'm waiting for infernape to appear and i will believe that pokemon that's going to appear in this will be both wii u and 3ds exclusive
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 12, 2013, 10:50:35 pm
yeah, and i'm waiting for infernape to appear and i will believe that pokemon that's going to appear in this will be both wii u and 3ds exclusive

It's not exclusive if its on both platforms :P
Besides, I believe Sakurai said the rosters would be the same.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on July 12, 2013, 11:05:52 pm
yeah, and i'm waiting for infernape to appear and i will believe that pokemon that's going to appear in this will be both wii u and 3ds exclusive
What's so special about Infernape to get him into a game like this?
IIRC, He was only cared for that the fact he was Fire/Fighting.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 12, 2013, 11:15:56 pm
Kinda was expecting Mewtwo because his movie is out later this month and would've been a good promotion, but I'm okay with this. Olimar was going to return anyways.
what??? nobody wanted this cheap fuck back, not even olimar players

>Implying they won't just nerf him like they did to Fox, Falcon and Marth.

.....actually forget I said that.  I don't think anyone wants that.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on July 12, 2013, 11:16:39 pm
yeah, and i'm waiting for infernape to appear and i will believe that pokemon that's going to appear in this will be both wii u and 3ds exclusive

It's not exclusive if its on both platforms :P
Besides, I believe Sakurai said the rosters would be the same.
oh, right, only stages will be wii u and 3ds exclusive
yeah, and i'm waiting for infernape to appear and i will believe that pokemon that's going to appear in this will be both wii u and 3ds exclusive
What's so special about Infernape to get him into a game like this?
IIRC, He was only cared for that the fact he was Fire/Fighting.

I know right, I only want that so it could be adventure time, let's just hope there'd be a story mode this time
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MUGENMinor92 on July 12, 2013, 11:41:31 pm
Forgive me if this topic was brought up already, but since Sakurai said there would be exclusive stages for the Wii U and 3DS, would the same apply to a few characters?

Because Olimar (or the Wii Fit Trainer, for that matter) haven't appeared on any handhelds, so it'd make sense if they were Wii U exclusives...Which is fine-o me if I can't play Olimar on-the-go. Was never found of him in Brawl...

(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/23/ewj.jpg)

Also, Earthworm Jim for Smash Bros. 3DS/Wii U, Baby!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 12, 2013, 11:45:04 pm
it's already been said several times in this thread (a couple posts ago in fact) that the rosters in both versions will be the same
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MUGENMinor92 on July 12, 2013, 11:48:00 pm
it's already been said several times in this thread (a couple posts ago in fact) that the rosters in both versions will be the same

OK then.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: XANDERAC on July 13, 2013, 02:23:56 am
I am a bit surprised that Olimar was confirmed already, since I thought he would have been one of the trickier ones to adapt to both versions judging by the previous info of having trouble with the Ice Climbers on the 3DS.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 13, 2013, 03:27:53 pm
I don't think Olimar is in the same boat as IC because the pikmin are treated as items, not characters.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on July 13, 2013, 05:54:02 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/y4jCWCi.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 13, 2013, 06:14:35 pm
ugh
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MellyInChains on July 13, 2013, 06:18:39 pm
out of 10
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Darkflare on July 13, 2013, 09:48:05 pm
Oh good, I needed a picture that would quickly kill a boner. Thanks.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 13, 2013, 09:48:35 pm
Ew

Though it would kinda be interesting to see different characters use art style more befitting their own series. Sorta like how game&watch works.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on July 13, 2013, 09:49:35 pm
no just no.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 14, 2013, 12:17:08 am
Game & Watch doesn't use a different art style. He's a solid black character that's rendered in 2D despite still being a 3D model with a grey outline. They couldn't exactly add shading and texture, or it'd ruin the 2D effect. I assume the outline is to help him stand out on darker stages.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJH on July 14, 2013, 12:55:17 am
(http://i.imgur.com/8dcLNBa.jpg)
GUIZ

DAT WAINBOW DESH 1 WAS OVIUSLY FAIK BUT DIZ IS DUH REEL DEEL!!!!1111!!!

NO FOTOSHOP OR IMAGE EDITIN, JUST REEL PICKS!!!11!!!1
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 14, 2013, 12:59:56 am
the crude mspaint sonic is less grating to look at than ponies
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 14, 2013, 09:19:39 am
^Sanic.
Sanic is waaaaay more original that Sonic.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on July 14, 2013, 09:32:40 am
Sanic, gotta go relatively quickly
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJH on July 14, 2013, 06:03:31 pm
Sanic stepz it up
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Celest• on July 15, 2013, 03:16:53 am
why is everyone suprised at Olimar's Confirmation? and Yoshi too it wouldnt make sense not to Put the Cast from 64, Melee (Certain) and Brawl
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nexus Games on July 15, 2013, 08:34:31 am
no surprise of olimar it better to see new character not character that was in series before
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 15, 2013, 08:42:40 am
olimar is surprising because people expected a character that's been around smash for longer (like yoshi, peach, ness) and because olimar is relatively complicated due to all the pikmin and the 3ds might not have been able to deal with that, but apparently it can.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 15, 2013, 08:46:44 am
Also Olimar does not appear in Pikmin 3 at all outside of being a multiplayer character.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 15, 2013, 01:15:40 pm
Also Olimar does not appear in Pikmin 3 at all outside of being a multiplayer character.

That means you have not completed the game yet.

His fate would be MASSIVE SPOILERS!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on July 15, 2013, 05:20:53 pm
(http://www.smashbros.com/update/images/daily.jpg)

Frieza confirmed.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJH on July 15, 2013, 06:46:52 pm
olimar is surprising because people expected a character that's been around smash for longer (like yoshi, peach, ness) and because olimar is relatively complicated due to all the pikmin and the 3ds might not have been able to deal with that, but apparently it can.

We already know those characters listed will be in for sure. It seems more like the newcomers or characters we don't expect to get in will be posted on the site or maybe they'll just keep adding more character boxes as we get closer to the release date.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 15, 2013, 09:26:10 pm
15/7
(http://i.imgur.com/OqwgTu1.jpg)
Pic of the day. The S.S. Drake from the planet Koppai arrives at the Garden of Hope.

looks like a stage thing more than a move or intro or whatever
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 1Ultima on July 15, 2013, 09:52:12 pm
^It might be a assist trophy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 16, 2013, 05:22:31 pm
16/7
(http://i.imgur.com/1DSeExK.jpg)
Pic of the day. Beware the double attack!
hell yes. wii fit trainer owns.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 17, 2013, 08:58:23 pm
17/7
(http://i.imgur.com/odbQIHI.jpg)
Pic of the day. Treasure found!

pikmin mourning the death of megaman games
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 17, 2013, 11:56:06 pm
17/7
(http://i.imgur.com/odbQIHI.jpg)
Pic of the day. Treasure found!

pikmin mourning the death of megaman games

"QUICK! Get him into the Onion so we can have Mega-Pikmin!"
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Omega on July 18, 2013, 10:28:20 am
Earthworm Jim for Super Smash Bros would be Awesome or Rayman. Even old school Characters like Commander Keen but, that won't happen İ guess.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on July 18, 2013, 02:46:32 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/YK3lzJS.jpg)

I don't like that the arm cannon is clipping through her shoulder pad...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 18, 2013, 04:11:31 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discorddunno_zps297811b9.png[/avatar]It's Other M Samus.  Obviously Adam hasn't authorized the use of tangible shoulder pads yet.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Omega on July 18, 2013, 06:46:28 pm
Samus Aran was always an interesting Character. Now lets see what Pikmin & Olimar can do in battle.

Got his plot quote from Wikipedia:

When he regains consciousness, Olimar finds out that the planet's atmosphere contains high levels of oxygen—an element deadly to his people—and he can stay on the planet for only 30 days before his life support system stops functioning. Olimar must retrieve many of the spaceship parts so he can rebuild his spaceship and return to Hocotate. Although Olimar initially states in his journal entries that he needs all 30 parts, as the game moves on it is hinted at that some parts might not be actually necessary to lift off, and, indeed, one can win the game without said parts.

İf they make worlds merge again like in Brawl, his Story could work in a decent way too for thisone.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 18, 2013, 08:23:15 pm
the text for the 18/7 picture was Pic of the day. The fleeting lives of tiny creatures.

     Posted: July 19, 2013, 05:05:40 pm
19/7
(http://i.imgur.com/zKXfJI5.jpg)
Pic of the day. Is that…a boy riding a gyroid?!

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 19, 2013, 10:25:23 pm
Now why does that remind me of when you bomb a Gossip Stone? :laugh:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on July 21, 2013, 06:08:14 am
the text for the 18/7 picture was Pic of the day. The fleeting lives of tiny creatures.

      Posted: July 19, 2013, 05:05:40 pm
19/7
(http://i.imgur.com/zKXfJI5.jpg)
Pic of the day. Is that…a boy riding a gyroid?!

Whenever I see that, I think of replacing that thing with Luigi, and have Villager ride Luigi when he's doing that same bullet like move. XD
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: GTA on July 21, 2013, 02:42:57 pm
This game looks good so far and wating for more regular characters to be confirmed.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on July 21, 2013, 05:40:30 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/uTY7EpK.png)


so this has popped up recently and has a lot of potential I guess

who do you think of the unconfirmed chars has the most possibility of being included



personally I believe theres a high chance of little mac being in with a punch out final smash that ohko's with an undodged uppercut
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 21, 2013, 05:44:25 pm
I would love that, but I don't think it's very plausible.  I don't think they'd not have anyone from the new Pokemon or Fire Emblem games.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 21, 2013, 05:48:55 pm
that's a pretty bad roster, although i've seen much worse. toon link was basically deconfirmed since he's a background element in the 3ds spirit tracks stage, there's no fire emblem awakening character, and lucario is probably being replaced by whatever pokemon is being pushed by the latest movie. little mac is the most likely from that image.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 21, 2013, 05:56:20 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordlol2-2_zps0e706c91.png[/avatar]Oh boy, here comes the wave of terrible character select screens.  It's like 2007 all over again.

But for serious, Little Mac is pretty much a given, what with that Boxing Ring stage they've already shown off.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on July 21, 2013, 06:12:49 pm
Waluigi and K Rool are unlikely, moreso the former than the latter. Luigi and Wario, the only two I realistically know I'm going to see in are what I'm waiting for.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Prototype God on July 21, 2013, 07:04:45 pm
Way too much third party characters in that image, and the toons, Ike, Lucas, Lucario, Takamaru, one of them Space Animal Clones, King Hippo, and maybe Dixie, are unlikely to join/return.
Still hoping for Palutena, Krystal maybe, one of them 3DS e-shop characters, and Ghirahim. (even though i dislike his character, he might make a decent addition.)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Retro Respecter on July 21, 2013, 07:19:27 pm
That looks too unbelievable to be true.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SlySuavity on July 21, 2013, 07:30:59 pm
That looks too unbelievable to be true.

You never know, we've all been wrong before. :smug:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 22, 2013, 06:40:43 pm
22/7
(http://i.imgur.com/TPMugHk.jpg)
Pic of the day. Close-up of the whistle and the Hocotate Freight logo.
giant olimar enters the arena
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MUGENMinor92 on July 22, 2013, 10:13:09 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/uTY7EpK.png)


so this has popped up recently and has a lot of potential I guess

who do you think of the unconfirmed chars has the most possibility of being included



personally I believe theres a high chance of little mac being in with a punch out final smash that ohko's with an undodged uppercut

Nice roster.

The only things I'd change are:

* No Toon Link or Zelda due to 3DS decomfirmation
* Replace Dixie with King K. Rool
* Replace Wolf (unless he's given a new moveset) with Krystal
* Replace Bayonetta with Earthworm Jim

Other than that, I can actually see this. Little Mac and Hippo make sense due to the Boxing Ring arena, Takamaru makes sense because of NintendoLand, and Ridley...well, the fans are just BEGGING for him.

My only question is...Who the crap is Wonder Red?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 22, 2013, 10:15:40 pm
Quote
Replace Bayonetta with Earthworm Jim

How does this make any kind of sense?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 22, 2013, 10:16:55 pm

* Replace Wolf (unless he's given a new moveset) with Krystal


Nah nigga, how bout you fuck right off with that shit.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Aldo on July 22, 2013, 10:28:45 pm
Zoroark pls.

* Replace Wolf (unless he's given a new moveset) with Krystal
* Replace Bayonetta with Earthworm Jim

What.

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on July 22, 2013, 11:04:10 pm
How does this make any kind of sense?
Considering his past posts he has some sort of EWJ fetish or something. :V

On the real though, that's one hell of a dream roster, keyword being "dream."
I'd figure no more than Brawl, realistically speaking.

I'd be all for Zoroark too, really.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 22, 2013, 11:16:09 pm
Wonder Red is from The Wonderful 101, a game coming soon to the Wii U.

Zoroark or Genesect. Either one works fine for me, just so long as Nintendo don't do their whole "useless gimmick" stuff again.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on July 23, 2013, 01:21:23 am
Quote
Replace Bayonetta with Earthworm Jim
How does this make any kind of sense?
How does Bayonetta make sense?  You think one game on the Wii-U buys your way into Smash?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on July 23, 2013, 01:25:02 am
Actually yes, considering the incredibly small 3rd party WiiU lineup. It'd be nice if of all 3rd party games on WiiU, Bayo2'd get more attention. Besides, it's also Nintendo-published, giving it already heavy chances.

It'd make tons more sense than *snicker* Earthworm Jim.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 23, 2013, 01:26:00 am
Quote
Replace Bayonetta with Earthworm Jim
How does this make any kind of sense?
How does Bayonetta make sense?  You think one game on the Wii-U buys your way into Smash?

(http://www.freewebs.com/metalgearsolidnet/photos/Twin%20Snakes/Box%20art.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on July 23, 2013, 02:19:20 am
Metal Gear 1, Metal Gear 2, and MGS Ghost Babel would like to have a word with you.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mgbenz on July 23, 2013, 05:10:42 am
Quote
Replace Bayonetta with Earthworm Jim
How does this make any kind of sense?
How does Bayonetta make sense?  You think one game on the Wii-U buys your way into Smash?

Bayonetta director also says he would want Bayonetta to be in the game if Sakurai wants him to.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on July 23, 2013, 05:13:10 am
plus the fact alot of people including me would love her to be in the game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 23, 2013, 06:41:03 am
Bayonetta director also says he would want Bayonetta to be in the game if Sakurai wants him to.
literally any game director would say the same thing
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on July 23, 2013, 09:47:24 am
Well Lucas got in Brawl and he was only in one game and Roy got in melee after being in no games.
Maybe Bayo being in Smash would be a good way to promote Bayonetta 2 so this way more than 20 people will buy it compared to the first game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on July 23, 2013, 10:02:14 am
Metal Gear 1, Metal Gear 2, and MGS Ghost Babel would like to have a word with you.
Eh, Nintendo was pretty heavily involved with The Twin Snakes. It probably played a not insignificant factor for Snake being added.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: NiO ErZeBeTh on July 23, 2013, 12:06:11 pm
a cool adittion to the roster could be Master Higgins, he started in the NES, is a oved game-character and it fits into the style of Smash Bros
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 23, 2013, 01:33:14 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordhugz.png[/avatar]
Metal Gear 1, Metal Gear 2, and MGS Ghost Babel would like to have a word with you.
Eh, Nintendo was pretty heavily involved with The Twin Snakes. It probably played a not insignificant factor for Snake being added.
That, and the fact that Sakurai and Kojima are close friends and it was done as a favor as much as anything else.  IIRC, Kojima had been begging for Snake to be in since before Melee.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 23, 2013, 02:45:40 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/uTY7EpK.png)


so this has popped up recently and has a lot of potential I guess

who do you think of the unconfirmed chars has the most possibility of being included



personally I believe theres a high chance of little mac being in with a punch out final smash that ohko's with an undodged uppercut

Ha, I am getting Deja vu from several years ago when all of the people go crazy with their predictions!

Why can't we get something similar with other fighting games!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 23, 2013, 03:16:35 pm
We actually have something similar like that already in USF4, with all the unplayable BG-only and backstory-only characters Capcom provided us in the life of Street Fighter, though it's still not that extreme like the Smash Bros dilemmas.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Saohc on July 23, 2013, 03:19:55 pm
+The original 12 and Marth ? I'll take that.
+Ganondorf better have MC2's move set
+Snake is back
+Game and Watch is back
-Toon Link has been deconfirmed and Toon Zelda is unnecessary
-No Suda51 characters
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 23, 2013, 04:10:30 pm
-No Suda51 characters
That also makes no sense at all.
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 23, 2013, 04:25:55 pm
What the hey is Suda51 anyway? Not that I really care anyway...
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Post by: Duos.act on July 23, 2013, 04:29:10 pm
"What is this thing don't answer that I don't care about it."
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Post by: MightyKombat on July 23, 2013, 04:29:34 pm
Killer7
No More Heroes
Flower, Sun and Rain
Killer Is Dead

well i feel wasted now
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Post by: Saohc on July 23, 2013, 05:17:14 pm
Old news, but:
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2009/07/suda_51_id_love_travis_touchdown_to_star_in_smash_bros

Hey, at least it would be more likely than any of the killer7 being future DLC for a Marvel vs Capcom game.
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Post by: Person Man on July 23, 2013, 05:33:15 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordugh.png[/avatar]
Old news, but:
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2009/07/suda_51_id_love_travis_touchdown_to_star_in_smash_bros
literally any game director would say the same thing
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Post by: Jango on July 23, 2013, 10:31:08 pm
I like how people always ask for Ridley to be in the next Smash Bros and ignore the fact that the fucker is too huge. It's like they played Brawl and ignored how large Ridley was in Subspace Emissary.
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Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 23, 2013, 10:32:55 pm
He was rather Samus-sized in the original, so they could come up with some excuse like "we used his scale from the original Metroid."
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Post by: Blackmore on July 23, 2013, 10:43:00 pm
I'd rather have Wolf O'Donnel with a more twerked movelist than Ridley.

Buuuuut that's just me.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 23, 2013, 10:48:54 pm
I'd rather have Wolf O'Donnel with a more twerked movelist than Ridley.

Buuuuut that's just me.

I'd rather have more attention paid to the franchises with less representatives than include more of the same.
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Post by: Duos.act on July 23, 2013, 10:54:47 pm
Wolf isn't "more of the same" if he's already been in Smash.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 23, 2013, 11:41:37 pm
Wolf isn't "more of the same" if he's already been in Smash.

I was essentially saying to cut him.
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Post by: Person Man on July 24, 2013, 12:03:03 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordshrug.png[/avatar]
I like how people always ask for Ridley to be in the next Smash Bros and ignore the fact that the fucker is too huge. It's like they played Brawl and ignored how large Ridley was in Subspace Emissary.
It's because they just want Metroid to have more representation, but realize that every character in Metroid that isn't Samus or Ridley kind of blows.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on July 24, 2013, 12:04:55 am
I like how people always ask for Ridley to be in the next Smash Bros and ignore the fact that the fucker is too huge. It's like they played Brawl and ignored how large Ridley was in Subspace Emissary.
It's because they just want Metroid to have more representation, but realize that every character in Metroid that isn't Samus or Ridley kind of blows.

Indeed.

Metroid does not have a very large and usable cast to draw from in the first place.
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Post by: MightyKombat on July 24, 2013, 12:06:23 am
I like how people always ask for Ridley to be in the next Smash Bros and ignore the fact that the fucker is too huge. It's like they played Brawl and ignored how large Ridley was in Subspace Emissary.
It's because they just want Metroid to have more representation, but realize that every character in Metroid that isn't Samus or Ridley kind of blows.

(http://www.metroid.com/imgs/content/characters/metroid_characters_anthony_large01.png)

You take that the fuck back
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Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2013, 12:13:12 am
Saying Ridley is too big for Smash Bros is kind of irrelevant since Bowser's size difference to Mario has depended entirely on the game where in some he's entire stories bigger than Mario and others he's just like 3 feet taller.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 24, 2013, 12:20:58 am
I still stand by either Rundas or Spire for additional Metroid reps.
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 12:32:44 am
IIRC, Kojima had been begging for Snake to be in since before Melee.
Yup, but Melee was too far in development to add him by the time Kojima asked.

It's because they just want Metroid to have more representation, but realize that every character in Metroid that isn't Samus or Ridley kind of blows.
That's just not true at all: Dark Samus, Rundas, Ghor, Gandrayda, Mother Brain, Adam (Fusion), and of course, the space pirate logs from the Prime games.

Usable cast is of course a different matter, but most of those listed would fit.

Saying Ridley is too big for Smash Bros is kind of irrelevant since Bowser's size difference to Mario has depended entirely on the game where in some he's entire stories bigger than Mario and others he's just like 3 feet taller.
The difference is that Bowser's size has always been highly variable (and in some cases been the direct result of magic). Ridley was small in Metroid 1 only, and has remained relatively the same size ever since.

I'm not saying it can't or shouldn't be done, it's just that I don't think the two are all that comparable.
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Post by: Titiln on July 24, 2013, 12:43:20 am
ridley was small in melee's intro video. it's easily doable and putting in anyone from metroid before ridley would be confusing as hell.

23/7
(http://i.imgur.com/kHDxPpt.jpg)
Pic of the day. 
Viridi, Goddess of Nature, is about to obliterate the humans as they battle, driven by greed.


a kid icarus uprising stage yay
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 12:45:15 am
But but Dark Samus!!! Prime needs more acknowledgement!
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Post by: Titiln on July 24, 2013, 12:47:10 am
dark samus blows
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 12:47:54 am
>:[
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Post by: Tyrant Belial on July 24, 2013, 12:49:02 am
Then put in Meta/Omega Ridley and call it a day. No one wins.


Fuck that give me Rundas
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Post by: Person Man on July 24, 2013, 12:50:08 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordimpatient.png[/avatar]Morph-Man, I know you love you some Metroid, but to be perfectly blunt I can't think of a character who would be less interesting for Smash Bros than one who already starts out as an exact duplicate of another character in the game they originally came from.

Besides, if any franchise needs more representation, it's Mother.  Now there's a treasure trove of potential awesomeness.
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Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 24, 2013, 12:51:16 am
Giygas confirmed as playable.
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Post by: Titiln on July 24, 2013, 12:51:24 am
i played metroid prime 1-3 and thought they were great. dark samus is a really uninteresting idea compared to ridley
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 12:53:54 am
There can be room for both! Metroid deserves it!

Morph-Man, I know you love you some Metroid, but to be perfectly blunt I can't think of a character who would be less interesting for Smash Bros than one who already starts out as an exact duplicate of another character in the game they originally came from.
The SA-X is the exact duplicate. Dark Samus sorta looks like Samus and that's where the similarities end. She has a completely different powerset. It's like saying Wario is a complete duplicate of Mario.
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Post by: Iced on July 24, 2013, 12:54:18 am
Even mother brain is more interesting than dark samus.
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Post by: J-Grug on July 24, 2013, 12:54:36 am
Metroid only has a bunch of space creatures.
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Post by: Mechy on July 24, 2013, 12:56:58 am
Shut up J-Grug.

Im opposed to Dark Samus just because it's another Samus. Visual variety is also a factor and there is no purple space gargoyle yet.
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Post by: J-Grug on July 24, 2013, 12:57:14 am
Shut up J-grug.

NO U.

Then again - nintedo will end up putting in "THE RANDOM GUY FROM AN OLD NES GAME"
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Post by: Person Man on July 24, 2013, 12:59:40 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-5.png[/avatar]
Dark Samus sorta looks like Samus and that's where the similarities end. She has a completely different powerset.
Metroid Wiki said:
As Dark Samus, the creature utilized many abilities similar to Samus... It could fire altered versions of the Power Beam.... She possessed standard Missiles as well as Super Missiles ... a Phazon-based Screw Attack, Shinespark or a combination of both... Morph Ball form

Uh-huh...
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Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2013, 01:00:48 am
No Dark Samus and no fucking Dark Pit either.  Make them alternate colors if anything.
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Post by: Iced on July 24, 2013, 01:01:37 am
Super missiles are obviously completely different from normal missiles, GAWD. They are like, super.
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Post by: Titiln on July 24, 2013, 01:02:14 am
It's like saying Wario is a complete duplicate of Mario.
if wario was the endboss in a couple mario games and was never used again and never got his own games or developed a personality i wouldn't want him in the game either
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Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2013, 01:05:41 am
That's not even a remotely fair comparison.  Never in any game Wario has been has he had a power set that was identical to Mario's. 
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 01:09:11 am
 J-Grug what on earth are you talking about

Im oppsed to dark samus just because it's another samus. Visual variety is also a factor.
They look about as similar as... I dunno, Marth and Ike. It's not a palette swap; there are very big differences, for both the immature Prime 2 incarnation and the fully-formed Prime 3 variation.

Uh-huh...
Dark Samus has many, many more abilities than just the ones cherry picked that are similar ones to Samus's. So much so that it qualifies as a different powerset. Clones, Phazon pillars, shotgun beams, Phazon traps, dive bombs, etc.

Super missiles are obviously completely different from normal missiles, GAWD. They are like, super.
Samus already has Super Missiles!

That's not even a remotely fair comparison.  Never in any game Wario has been has he had a power set that was identical to Mario's. 
Neither has Dark Samus. That would be, again, the SA-X.
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Post by: MightyKombat on July 24, 2013, 01:13:06 am
Just make Anthony Higgs playable like I said. BAM. Million seller right the fuck there.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 24, 2013, 01:14:01 am
They look about as similar as... I dunno, Marth and Ike. It's not a palette swap; there are very big differences, for both the immature Prime 2 incarnation and the fully-formed Prime 3 variation.
There really is not a "big difference". On a glance they look pretty much the same despite the colours. Marth and Ike comparison is pretty good actually since if you make them stand next to Samus and Ridley, the latter is much more visually interesting and distinctive.
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Post by: Person Man on July 24, 2013, 01:16:19 am
Just make Anthony Higgs playable like I said. BAM. Million seller right the fuck there.

[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-4.png[/avatar]^ I stand corrected.  Generic Identically-Armored Space Marine Number Eleventy Hyperbolillion would, in fact, be less interesting than Dark Samus.
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Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2013, 01:16:25 am
Well for starters, Ike is not literally an evil being taking the guise of Marth with no real character, personality or lasting appeal
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 01:19:12 am
Just make Anthony Higgs playable like I said. BAM. Million seller right the fuck there.
I think we all want someone but we're all embarrassed to say:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100406202548/metroid/images/a/aa/Armstrong_Houston.png)
Armstrong Houston

There really is not a "big difference". On a glance they look pretty much the same despite the colours.
They're humanoids with full body armor and armcannons on their right arms and a visor type thing on their heads and the vaguely same body shape. Aside from that they're pretty dang different.
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Post by: Mechy on July 24, 2013, 01:22:47 am
They're humanoids with full body armor and armcannons on their right arms and a visor type thing on their heads. Aside from that they're all different.
The said full body armor is almost the exact same shape. Visor and arm cannon have minor differences but serve the exact same purpose visually.

Don't make me make a diagram about this.
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Post by: Iced on July 24, 2013, 01:25:14 am
Oh, I want a diagram. I fucking love diagrams.
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Post by: Tyrant Belial on July 24, 2013, 01:25:52 am
Make it a Venn Diagram.
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 01:32:24 am
The said full body armor is almost the exact same shape.
They share the highlights (big ass shoulder pads, armcannon, having a visor) but the structure of the armor is very different, in both of Dark Samus's appearances. A diagram isn't really needed, just lay them out side-by-side.
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Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2013, 01:33:33 am
Bro if you don't understand why people don't want a character named DARK *name of character who is already playable* and design wise basically amounts to "exactly the same but with MORE" then I think you need to take a look at Link and Toon Link and tell me which one gets more play.
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Post by: Titiln on July 24, 2013, 01:34:54 am
if we're going by looks alone, luigi shouldn't be in the game at all since, at a glance, he's green mario. difference being that luigi has been in a shitload of games, some of his own, and developed his own personality and fanbase. i can't say any of that at all for dark samus. there's nothing going for the character in looks or personality or numerous game appearances
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Post by: MightyKombat on July 24, 2013, 01:39:07 am
I'd kill for Oiram from that New Super Mario Bros 2 creepypasta

also personman you are one boring ass son of a you know that
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Post by: Mechy on July 24, 2013, 01:41:00 am
They share the highlights (big ass shoulder pads, armcannon, having a visor) but the structure of the armor is very different, in both of Dark Samus's appearances. A diagram isn't really needed, just lay them out side-by-side.
Nah, this gave me a reason to keep living for about 3 minutes.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
SCIENCE
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 01:43:21 am
Bro if you don't understand why people don't want a character named DARK *name of character who is already playable* and design wise basically amounts to "exactly the same but with MORE" then I think you need to take a look at Link and Toon Link and tell me which one gets more play.
if we're going by looks alone, luigi shouldn't be in the game at all since, at a glance, he's green mario. difference being that luigi has been in a shitload of games, some of his own, and developed his own personality and fanbase. i can't say any of that at all for dark samus. there's nothing going for the character in looks or personality or numerous game appearances
I get all of that. But Metroid doesn't have a very deep roster (nor is it a game that delves much into characterization), so ya gotta make due with what ya got. And I personally think Dark Samus would be the best bet but of the choices available, with Ridley being a close second. I want them both because Metroid needs more love! >:[
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Post by: Iced on July 24, 2013, 01:46:13 am
They share the highlights (big ass shoulder pads, armcannon, having a visor) but the structure of the armor is very different, in both of Dark Samus's appearances. A diagram isn't really needed, just lay them out side-by-side.
Nah, this gave me a reason to keep living for about 3 minutes.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
SCIENCE

I am not pleased with this diagram, I need one that highlights the actual differences and makes a statistical compromise on what percentage of originality goes into it.

I need it done with a side comparison of ryu evil ryu for my mugen perspectives.
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Post by: Darkflare on July 24, 2013, 01:47:06 am
This is fascinating and all, but I'm more interested in the reasons on why you don't want any of the Hunters cast or Prime 3 bounty hunters over Dark Samus.
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Post by: Titiln on July 24, 2013, 01:48:13 am
between putting in a dark version of the main character or a bigass pterodactyl monster that has been in almost every game of the series i think the choice is fairly obvious
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Post by: Mechy on July 24, 2013, 01:49:16 am
I am not pleased with this diagram, I need one that highlights the actual differences and makes a statistical compromise on what percentage of originality goes into it.

I need it done with a side comparison of ryu evil ryu for my mugen perspectives.
Sorry, tight budget.
This is fascinating and all, but I'm more interested in the reasons on why you don't want any of the Hunters cast or Prime 3 bounty hunters over Dark Samus.
They just look retarded.
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Post by: Iced on July 24, 2013, 01:51:59 am
between putting in a dark version of the main character or a bigass pterodactyl monster that has been in almost every game of the series i think the choice is fairly obvious
yes, dark evil version of the main character is the obvious choice, most of the rigging work is already done
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 01:54:34 am
This is fascinating and all, but I'm more interested in the reasons on why you don't want any of the Hunters cast or Prime 3 bounty hunters over Dark Samus.
All of the Hunters were pretty dumb, IMO. Also I don't like the game they came from.The bounty hunters from Prime 3 are neat and all and I talked about them in this thread, but they're not very high profile (at least Dark Samus was in more than one game, and was the main antagonist of two, three if you count Prime 1)

As little characterization as Dark Samus (coming mostly from pirate logs) and the Prime 3 hunters (coming from the cutscenes they're in) recieved, the Hunters received even less. A paragraph of backstory and that was it. Like most of that game, it just felt half-formed and incomplete.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

     Posted: July 24, 2013, 01:55:42 am
between putting in a dark version of the main character or a bigass pterodactyl monster that has been in almost every game of the series i think the choice is fairly obvious
Do both? :yeses:
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Post by: Person Man on July 24, 2013, 02:02:22 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordindignant_zps17a67620.png[/avatar]
also personman you are one boring ass son of a you know that
ME boring?  The guy you want is one of a dozen nearly identical space marines whose defining trait is that he carries the biggest gun.  The guy I want is a Clint Eastwood cowboy homage who fights by swinging around a huge piece of uncut lumber.  How am I the boring one here?

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2013, 02:03:43 am
You want another character they will just slap on Ness's moveset with a different up+B or down+B and call it a day?  How lame. 
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Post by: Mechy on July 24, 2013, 02:05:05 am
Im not sure if that is sarcasm, but Flint does not have PSI moves at all.

*high-fives personman*
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Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2013, 02:06:51 am
Lucas had no reason to have Ness's moveset either.  Didn't stop Sakurai.
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Post by: Mechy on July 24, 2013, 02:09:13 am
Lucas was similar to Ness moveset wise in the game itself. Flint on the other hand does not have PSI powers at all.

They might make him a captain falcon clone though. Welp.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 24, 2013, 02:09:19 am
You want another character they will just slap on Ness's moveset with a different up+B or down+B and call it a day?  How lame. 

[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava8.png[/avatar]Flint doesn't even have PK abilities!  They couldn't make him work like Ness if they wanted to.
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Post by: Mechy on July 24, 2013, 02:10:32 am
I JUST EXPLAINED THAT
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Post by: Duos.act on July 24, 2013, 02:13:20 am
Yeah and Ganondorf didn't drive racecars or kickbox either.  Never underestimate Sakurai.
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Post by: MightyKombat on July 24, 2013, 02:14:55 am
also personman you are one boring ass son of a you know that
ME boring?  The guy you want is one of a dozen nearly identical space marines whose defining trait is that he carries the biggest gun.  The guy I want is a Clint Eastwood cowboy homage who fights by swinging around a huge piece of uncut lumber.  How am I the boring one here?

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

cos you can't appreciate  a sassy black guy with a giant fuck off plasma gun who is almost literally the only tolerable part of M lowercase e TROID other m

I totally wanna see Ihsoy and Hcaep Ssecnirp get in and the Blood Whistle make it in as an item/
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Post by: Do not even ask on July 24, 2013, 02:25:48 am
Screw Ridley, if anyone needs to be in Smash Bros from the Metroid series it needs to be a representative from Jmorph's favorite game in the series, a character like MB.
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 24, 2013, 02:27:42 am
I'm getting my flensing knife.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Do not even ask on July 24, 2013, 02:39:21 am
I've already devised MB's moveset. Her Final Smash has her killed by a group of generic military grunts and her opponents in the match are left with a grand feeling of dissatisfaction.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on July 24, 2013, 06:50:52 am
If you ask me, I think we should have a Namco character in here, since they helped developed SSB 3DS/WiiU.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 24, 2013, 11:49:57 am
I recall Sakurai saying that just because Namco/Bandai are working on Smash Bros., does not mean they'll put one of their characters in there. *cockblocked*

@the hunters looking retarded/whatever
Not all aliens are humanoid. They may be bipeds, but that doesn't mean they have a working set of genitals on their crotch area.

I actually thought the Hunters looked quite snazzy.
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Post by: Titiln on July 24, 2013, 06:17:30 pm
24/7
(http://i.imgur.com/d8U76AO.jpg)
Pic of the day. Right back atcha!

villager throwing a weak ass projectile back at pit, a waste of time imo
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Post by: Mgbenz on July 24, 2013, 06:37:02 pm
The arrow is going straight into Pit's crotch.
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Post by: Person Man on July 24, 2013, 07:31:20 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordwhatever.png[/avatar]For what it's worth, considering how fast Pit's arrows move it probably takes a lot of skill to actually catch one of those things in the first place.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 24, 2013, 09:26:48 pm
For what it's worth, considering how fast Pit's arrows move it probably takes a lot of skill to actually catch one of those things in the first place.

Not if you're Japanese :P

...and hey! That stage appears to have a day/night cycle to it. Cool.
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Post by: Ejectok on July 24, 2013, 11:58:44 pm
I have no clue if this was mention but:

How do you guys feel about including 1 antagonist representing each game, in the roster?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 12:10:28 am
If you think you can find an antagonist for Ice Climbers sure.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Do not even ask on July 25, 2013, 12:16:11 am
What would ROB's antagonist be?
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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 12:18:23 am
ET.
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Post by: Ejectok on July 25, 2013, 12:18:52 am
If you think you can find an antagonist for Ice Climbers sure.

I was actually hoping they didn't make the cut =)

I was more interested in choosing Fire Emblem, Metroid, Kid Icarus, F-Zero , and Earthbound

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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 12:19:43 am
Well I would rather have the Ice Climbers than all of the obscure Earthbound and Fire Emblem characters people keep requesting to be honest.
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Post by: Ejectok on July 25, 2013, 12:23:24 am
Well I would rather have the Ice Climbers than all of the obscure Earthbound and Fire Emblem characters people keep requesting to be honest.

Then my post is a response to games that do have an antagonist
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Post by: Mechy on July 25, 2013, 12:25:38 am
Pretty sure that won't happen.
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Post by: Titiln on July 25, 2013, 12:26:23 am
i'd rather have a 3ds eshop character like mallo from crashmo than some shitty villain like king k rool or whoever the fuck from earthbound
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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 12:29:13 am
i'd rather have a 3ds eshop character like mallo from crashmo than some shitty villain like king k rool or whoever the fuck from earthbound

Whoah you better slow your roll homie before you catch some rings to the jaw.
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Post by: Roman55 on July 25, 2013, 12:30:17 am
What would ROB's antagonist be?
One of the doctors from Gyromite.
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Post by: Titiln on July 25, 2013, 12:31:03 am
king k rool drools son
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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 12:32:19 am
Yeah well Fire Emblem is gay.  It's so gay that Marth looks like a girl so they had an actual girl dress up like him and there was no difference.
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Post by: walt on July 25, 2013, 12:38:21 am
woah woah woah. FELLAS!
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Post by: Mechy on July 25, 2013, 12:39:56 am
Yeah well Fire Emblem is gay.  It's so gay that Marth looks like a girl so they had an actual girl dress up like him and there was no difference.
Well he would be wearing a dress...
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Post by: Titiln on July 25, 2013, 12:46:33 am
Yeah well Fire Emblem is gay.
there's no gay marriage in fire emblem. do some research next time noobie
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Post by: Ejectok on July 25, 2013, 12:50:20 am
Who do you guys think will be best antagonist  for Fire Emblem?

For Kid Icarus I believe Hades should take the roster 
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Post by: Iced on July 25, 2013, 12:50:48 am
If you think you can find an antagonist for Ice Climbers sure.
pretend i did the titiln thing and photoshopped the picture
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Post by: Do not even ask on July 25, 2013, 01:04:04 am
Who do you guys think will be best antagonist  for Fire Emblem?

Sephiroth
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 25, 2013, 01:07:49 am
I support Polar Bear as Ice Climber's rival for Smash Bros. (http://iceclimber.wikia.com/wiki/Polar_Bear)
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Post by: Titiln on July 25, 2013, 01:09:21 am
there's a goddamn ice climbers wiki
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Post by: Person Man on July 25, 2013, 01:10:23 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava3.png[/avatar]
For Kid Icarus I believe Hades should take the roster
Pit will be the only one from Kid Icarus for the same reason that Olimar will be the only one from Pikmin.  There's exactly one character in the franchise that anyone other than the most die-hard fans know and/or care about.

I wouldn't get my hopes up for an influx of new playable villains, if I were you.  Pretty much all of Nintendo's iconic baddies (plus a handful of their second-stringers) were already in Brawl.  Ridley and maybe K. Rool might have a shot, but beyond that most of Nintendo's big names aren't really known for the enemy characters.
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Post by: Iced on July 25, 2013, 01:26:55 am
There is someone I would like to see, in villain terms, but he wont be in, I will still say it anyway.

Robotnick. The one with the egg ship from the genesis games, attacking with the pendulum and setting down traps for the opponents with spikes and crap.

His final smash would call out a bunch of robot minions.
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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 01:55:03 am
For Kid Icarus I believe Hades should take the roster
Pit will be the only one from Kid Icarus for the same reason that Olimar will be the only one from Pikmin.  There's exactly one character in the franchise that anyone other than the most die-hard fans know and/or care about.

You say that now, but remember that Kid Icarus is currently in Sakurai's hands.  You will get the entire supporting cast of Uprising, they will be as BS as Meta Knight and DDD were in Brawl, and you will like it.
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Post by: Titiln on July 25, 2013, 01:58:42 am
palutena in smash? my boner is ready
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Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 25, 2013, 01:58:44 am
as BS as Meta Knight and DDD were in Brawl
King Dedede wasn't overpowered in Brawl! >:(
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Post by: Darkflare on July 25, 2013, 02:20:57 am
Chain grabs
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Post by: Jango on July 25, 2013, 03:05:52 am
Person Man said:
maybeK. Rool might have a shot
I could be wrong, but doesn't Rare own the Kremlings? I mean, I assumed that's why Donkey Kong Country Returns had those mask dudes as enemies.
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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 03:16:37 am
The Kremlings were in Mario Sports games, so no.
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Post by: Titiln on July 25, 2013, 03:27:28 am
also k rool has been a trophy before
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Post by: Nero D. on July 25, 2013, 04:35:34 am
<- should be in smash

at least as a fucking trophy or something that steals the smash ball from the carrier or some shit like a blue turtle shell type gimmick
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2013, 05:09:26 am
There is someone I would like to see, in villain terms, but he wont be in, I will still say it anyway.

Robotnick. The one with the egg ship from the genesis games, attacking with the pendulum and setting down traps for the opponents with spikes and crap.

His final smash would call out a bunch of robot minions.
But, uh, he floats. Like, he can't even walk around or crawl or drive or whatever, the bottom is spherical. Compare it to, I dunno, Ridley, who flies around 99% of the time. But he has feet and walks around in Prime 1/3, and it's not inconceivable for him to be grounded and not be able to fly indefinitely, ala Charizard or Meta Knight or any of the other fliers. But Robotnik's Eggmobile just doesn't seem suitable for Smash's gameplay. Probably could do something with the drill tank from Sonic 2, but the best bet would probably be the Egg Walker from Sonic Adventure 2, I guess.
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Post by: J-Grug on July 25, 2013, 05:19:35 am
A character this game needs is the mach rider.

Think about it: Pit, Ice climbers, Ness, Lucas and ROB all come from a single game. And they all look stupid.

Mach rider looks cool - He gotta a motorcycle helmet, armor, spike pads, and a GUN!!

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Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2013, 05:22:05 am
:I
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Post by: SlySuavity on July 25, 2013, 05:24:05 am
Your slapping avatar is fitting, Jmorphman.
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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 05:39:02 am
A character this game needs is the mach rider.

Think for a sec: Pit, Ice climber, Ness, Lucas and ROB only had one game. And they all look stupid.

Mach rider looks cool - He gotta a motorcycle helmet, armor, spike pads, and a GUN.

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/361fca7413e1a2de6ff22d9dff878210/tumblr_mig9a81AiV1rmh9bbo1_500.jpg)
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 25, 2013, 05:43:15 am
The Ice Climbers would have another game if they just carried an AK-47. :(
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Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 25, 2013, 07:41:47 am
There is someone I would like to see, in villain terms, but he wont be in, I will still say it anyway.

Robotnick. The one with the egg ship from the genesis games, attacking with the pendulum and setting down traps for the opponents with spikes and crap.

His final smash would call out a bunch of robot minions.
OR KNUCKLES.  FUCK ANYBODY ELSE
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Post by: Iced on July 25, 2013, 02:30:02 pm

But, uh, he floats. Like, he can't even walk around or crawl or drive or whatever, the bottom is spherical. Compare it to, I dunno, Ridley, who flies around 99% of the time. But he has feet and walks around in Prime 1/3, and it's not inconceivable for him to be grounded and not be able to fly indefinitely, ala Charizard or Meta Knight or any of the other fliers. But Robotnik's Eggmobile just doesn't seem suitable for Smash's gameplay. Probably could do something with the drill tank from Sonic 2, but the best bet would probably be the Egg Walker from Sonic Adventure 2, I guess.
The same is true for modok an dhe worked out fine D: have him grow catterpilars when he crouches, his jump be hella floaty and most of his attacks exploe aerial properties and presto.  you could pretty much make each of his boss forms be attacks.
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Post by: Mechy on July 25, 2013, 02:33:33 pm
A character this game needs is the mach rider.

Think for a sec: Pit, Ice climber, Ness, Lucas and ROB only had one game. But they all look stupid.

Mach rider looks cool - He gotta a motorcycle helmet, armor, spike pads, and a GUN.
Are you serious?
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Post by: Roman55 on July 25, 2013, 06:14:55 pm
http://kotaku.com/the-next-super-smash-bros-wont-have-a-story-mode-or-c-906856304

So you don't have to click a Kotaku link said:
Hey, remember Super Smash Bros. Brawl? Remember the Subspace Emissary adventure mode? Did you see the CG cutscenes? Well, thanks to spoilers, you won't have any of those in the upcoming Super Smash Bros. for the Wii U and 3DS.

In his bi-weekly column in Weekly Famitsu, Super Smash Bros. creator Masahiro Sakurai revealed some new details about the upcoming game. One major detail he covered was the exclusion of a story mode and CG cutscenes and his reasons behind it.

In the previous game, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, the development team took advantage of the rare occasion of having multiple different series' characters all appear in the same game, so they painstakingly created a special story called the Subspace Emissary, complete with cutscenes for players to enjoy. It was a project that obviously took a lot of thought, time, and energy. And then, the obvious happened...

"Unfortunately, the movie scenes we worked hard to create were uploaded onto the internet." Sakurai lamented. "You can only truly wow a player the first time he sees [a cutscene]. I felt if players saw the cutscenes outside of the game, they would no longer serve as rewards for playing the game, so I've decided against having them."

Rather than letting a setback ruin things completely, Sakurai has focused on having video sequences that would instead potentially benefit by being spread around. This has led to the new character intro video sequences for the Villager, Mega Man, and the Wii Fit Trainer. Sakurai expressed a desire to make similar videos for all subsequent new characters.

While there will be no story mode, Sakurai assured that the 3DS version would include a feature that would "act as a separate mode from the standard versus play."

In terms of features that will be added instead of taken away, Sakurai revealed that the 3DS and Wii U versions would have different stages. The 3DS version will have more portable game-themed stages while the Wii U version will have more home console game-themed stages. Sakurai did not specify whether all the stages would be different.

Finally, Sakurai noted that there will be some form of character customizability in the game. This customization will alter character performance, though in what way is still unclear. Sakurai is also considering a way to allow players to use customizations from their 3DS versions in their Wii U versions of the game.

Sadly, there was not enough space in Sakurai's column to allow him to talk about online play. Another topic for another time, I guess.
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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 06:18:23 pm
Awesome, story mode always sucked in Smash. 
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Post by: Iced on July 25, 2013, 06:23:09 pm
Nice b8 m8.
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Post by: Person Man on July 25, 2013, 06:31:41 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava3.png[/avatar]Axing the mode entirely because he's too afraid that players won't experience it exactly the way he wants them to is a really shitty move on Sakurai's part.
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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 06:32:54 pm
That much I'll agree with.  Sakurai has always had that fucked up mentality of "play how I want you to or don't play" like he should have any say over what consumers do with what they buy.
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Post by: Titiln on July 25, 2013, 06:33:01 pm
if that means more development time goes to characters and stages i don't mind
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Post by: Moon Girard on July 25, 2013, 06:33:27 pm
Wait isn't that old news? Sakurai said the same thing around E3 i think we even talked about it around page 35.
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Post by: drewski90 on July 25, 2013, 06:35:26 pm
if that means more development time goes to characters and stages i don't mind

yeah, it will act like the original super smash bros. for the n64
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Post by: Titiln on July 25, 2013, 06:37:44 pm
yeah it's also old news

25/7
(http://i.imgur.com/raWVHmA.jpg)
Pic of the day. The tin lift somehow leaves a lasting impression.

the pikmin stage has a lift! this means you will have to rethink your pre-game release strategies
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Post by: drewski90 on July 25, 2013, 06:39:27 pm
yeah it's also old news

man kinda late to be posting that
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Post by: LC-DDM on July 25, 2013, 06:56:22 pm
That much I'll agree with.  Sakurai has always had that fucked up mentality of "play how I want you to or don't play" like he should have any say over what consumers do with what they buy.

Yet a mentality I kinda liked - for Brawl, at least.
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Post by: Mgbenz on July 25, 2013, 07:36:14 pm
Yeah, tripping was awesome right?
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Post by: Duos.act on July 25, 2013, 07:39:02 pm
I am surprised Sakurai hasn't tried to implement some kind of fucked up DRM or anti modding shit since he hates people playing their way so much.  Or maybe he has and we don't know yet.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 25, 2013, 08:03:32 pm
Though to be fair, his team did spend a lot of time on those cutscenes (probably too much). By seeing the cutscenes online, it does kinda ruin the whole awesomeness of seeing a cutscene for the very first time in glorious TV format. People might also be less likely to play through the story mode.

Yes, I'm just throwing possibilities out here. Shoot me down if you wish :P
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Post by: 1Ultima on July 25, 2013, 08:40:22 pm
Gamefreak spend a lot of time making models for new Pokemon, new moves, new music ect.
And they didn't give a shit when people started posting footage from the Japanese copy of the game. (Which they can't do now because X and Y are being released worldwide on the same day)

But on the other hand,  Square Enix started taking down videos of the Japanese copy of KH3D back when it first came out.
I guess it ranges from company to company.
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Post by: Nero D. on July 25, 2013, 09:59:31 pm
wtf

this is dumb sakurai

stop it
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Post by: Titiln on July 25, 2013, 11:07:11 pm
Quote
in fact, we do not expect to include a similar story mode this time. As you already know, Smash Bros. has a large number of different characters, which were entitled to their own cutscenes in the story Mode. These were supposed to be rewards for players finishing this mode with each of the characters.

I think it was something fun for the players, but at the same time, all the cutscenes finally found themselves on the internet. Players watched them online, which was not really sticking with what we had originally planned. It is for this reason that we are not going to do something similar this time.
So, he's ditching the story mode completely because he doesn't want people to watch the cutscenes on Youtube.

What.
posted 28 days ago

http://kotaku.com/the-next-super-smash-bros-wont-have-a-story-mode-or-c-906856304

that's from today. that's why the story is making the rounds again. jesus fucking christ, kotaku.
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Post by: Jmorphman on July 26, 2013, 10:48:18 am
Sometimes you think "oh Kotaku can't be as bad as everyone always says, they're just occasionally awful". But then they do stuff like this. Oy.

The same is true for modok an dhe worked out fine D: have him grow catterpilars when he crouches, his jump be hella floaty and most of his attacks exploe aerial properties and presto.  you could pretty much make each of his boss forms be attacks.
MODOK is, I dunno, it just seems more natural for him to hover close to the ground and not be able to fly indefinitely. I mean I guess they could get the Eggmobile to work (but they couldn't fit the pendulum, I don't think), but there's already something that would fit much, much better, something designed specifically for walking around. And the pendulum could be his Final Smash, even!
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Post by: Titiln on July 26, 2013, 07:52:13 pm
gamespot and several other sites picked up the story again thanks to kotaku. games journalism.


26/7
(http://i.imgur.com/ulFpTXQ.jpg)
Pic of the day. The impact-launch effect has been powered up. The assigned color makes it clear which player will get points in the event of a KO.
that's kind of cool.
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Post by: Nero D. on July 26, 2013, 09:13:25 pm
thats fucking terrible, the kotaku effect of course


those effects look badass
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Post by: DNZRX768 on July 26, 2013, 09:16:05 pm
gamespot and several other sites picked up the story again thanks to kotaku. games journalism.


26/7
(http://i.imgur.com/ulFpTXQ.jpg)
Pic of the day. The impact-launch effect has been powered up. The assigned color makes it clear which player will get points in the event of a KO.
that's kind of cool.

Ah yes, the feeling you get when you launch someone sky high!

Or if someone else launches YOU sky high!
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 26, 2013, 10:27:05 pm
Sauceome! Loving the effects they're doing.
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Post by: Roman55 on July 27, 2013, 03:29:44 am
Sakurai Explains Why You Won’t See Fighting Game Characters In Super Smash Bros. (http://mynintendonews.com/2013/07/25/sakurai-explains-why-you-wont-see-fighting-characters-in-super-smash-bros/)
Quote
“The biggest feature we look at in Smash Bros. is, ‘What does this character bring to Smash Bros. that other characters don’t?’ If you look at… someone from a fighting game already, and people like fighting with this character, from my point of view, it’s like ‘this guy does what this guy already does. He fills the role that this character already has. So while you may like this character and he’s interesting, that doesn’t really merge well, here.” – Sakurai
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Post by: Duos.act on July 27, 2013, 03:44:37 am
Quote
“The biggest feature we look at in Smash Bros. is, ‘What does this character bring to Smash Bros. that other characters don’t?’

HAHAHA BULLSHIT.
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Post by: Cazaki on July 27, 2013, 03:47:13 am
Sakurai hates FG's, that's for sure.
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Post by: Nero D. on July 27, 2013, 03:51:27 am
actually that makes sense


a lot of these characters (bar link/shiek, marth/roy, samus, ganon etc) would have never even been seen in a combative aspect if not for smash, whereas, fighting game characters, well duh


at least thats what i got from that quip

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Post by: drewski90 on July 27, 2013, 03:52:47 am
actually that makes sense


a lot of these characters (bar link/shiek, marth/roy, samus, cpt falcon, etc) would have never even been seen in a combative aspect if not for smash, whereas, fighting game characters, well duh


at least thats what i got from that quip



so, let me focus less on third-party characters and more on pokemon that needs to be here, like zoroark and infernape
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Post by: Mechy on July 27, 2013, 03:55:44 am
Shut up drewski.
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Post by: SNT on July 27, 2013, 04:11:51 am
Wait isn't that old news? Sakurai said the same thing around E3 i think we even talked about it around page 35.
Welcome to Kotaku.
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Post by: Titiln on July 27, 2013, 04:28:44 am
that question didn't really deserve answering, the most obvious fighting game choice would be ryu but having two capcom characters would be too much. ‘what does this character bring to smash bros that other characters don’t?’ is funny considering the amount of clone characters in previous games, but hopefully it won't be that bad this time around
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Post by: Saohc on July 27, 2013, 06:16:01 am
The less clones the better. I also think Luigi's moveset could use a little more tweaking, if he returns. Even with the Green Missile move and Luigi Tornado(In Brawl, due to Mario's down-B move being F.L.U.D.D)

As much as I like EarthBound/Mother, SSB doesn't need any more characters from that series. I mean there's already been:
-Mr. Saturn as an item since Melee
-Two stages in SSB:M(With one of them returning in Brawl)
-One of the party members as an assist trophy(Brawl)
-Porky as a boss in Subspace and the King Pig Statue making a short appearance(Brawl)
-Trophies and Stickers and music.

Just do like Melee and just have Ness, some trophies and keep the Onett stage.
Lucas' appearance ended up only putting another clone in Brawl, along with plot spoilers for Mother 3.

I agree with the exclusion of fighting game characters, especially when you could consider how the moveset would have to be tweaked for SSB.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 27, 2013, 11:10:18 am
Less clones > bigger roster

Plus, the bigger the roster, the longer All-Star Mode takes |:[
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Post by: GTA on July 27, 2013, 11:36:02 am
Less clones > bigger roster

Plus, the bigger the roster, the longer All-Star Mode takes |:[

I would have no problems like that. The longer the game is, the better.
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 27, 2013, 01:09:56 pm
The longer the game is, the better.
For some games, this is true.
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Post by: GTA on July 27, 2013, 03:04:05 pm
The longer the game is, the better.
For some games, this is true.

Then they need more new characters and less clones. Feel sorry for Falco, Luigi or Wolf, but better than nothing.
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 27, 2013, 03:34:22 pm
The longer the game is, the better.
For some games, this is true.

Then they need more new characters and less clones. Feel sorry for Falco, Luigi or Wolf, but better than nothing.
Luigi should be kept: He isn't a real Mario clone anymore, unlike in Melee, were the only difference was the side+B special.
However, I can see Falco and Wolf not appearing in this Smash Bros, as well as Lucas. I just hope that Sakurai will at least keep the veterans from the first Smash Bros, since they're kinda iconic.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 27, 2013, 05:45:24 pm
Luigi should be kept: He isn't a real Mario clone anymore, unlike in Melee, were the only difference was the side+B special.

...and his running A, his recovery (which was terrible, save for the whole explosion part), his side smash and probably a bunch of others. To me, he was only a real clone in the first Smash Bros.

In a way, Drewski has a point. Almost all the Pokémon characters are gimmicks. I want to play as the other Pokémon characters, but they're all so useless. Even Jigglypuff lost any usefulness it had prior to Brawl. If the team focused less on getting their silly gimmicks working and more time actually making them playable, I'd be happy.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
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Post by: DNZRX768 on July 27, 2013, 06:25:22 pm
Sakurai Explains Why You Won’t See Fighting Game Characters In Super Smash Bros. (http://mynintendonews.com/2013/07/25/sakurai-explains-why-you-wont-see-fighting-characters-in-super-smash-bros/)
Quote
“The biggest feature we look at in Smash Bros. is, ‘What does this character bring to Smash Bros. that other characters don’t?’ If you look at… someone from a fighting game already, and people like fighting with this character, from my point of view, it’s like ‘this guy does what this guy already does. He fills the role that this character already has. So while you may like this character and he’s interesting, that doesn’t really merge well, here.” – Sakurai

So, I assuming nothing from Tekken nor Soul Calibur then, right?

That's a shame. I was really hoping for someone like that.
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on July 27, 2013, 06:51:21 pm
Luigi should be kept: He isn't a real Mario clone anymore, unlike in Melee, were the only difference was the side+B special.

...and his running A, his recovery (which was terrible, save for the whole explosion part), his side smash and probably a bunch of others. To me, he was only a real clone in the first Smash Bros.
Oh yeah, forgot about these. :P
And since we're already at it, we can also count in Luigi's taunt, which actually damages the opponent (like Dudley's rose throw taunt in the SF3 series).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on July 29, 2013, 03:10:18 am
Yeah, tripping was awesome right?

I never said I liked tripping. But I loved the "fuck you"s he did to the pro players from Melee.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on July 29, 2013, 03:17:16 am
Sakurai Explains Why You Won’t See Fighting Game Characters In Super Smash Bros. (http://mynintendonews.com/2013/07/25/sakurai-explains-why-you-wont-see-fighting-characters-in-super-smash-bros/)
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“The biggest feature we look at in Smash Bros. is, ‘What does this character bring to Smash Bros. that other characters don’t?’ If you look at… someone from a fighting game already, and people like fighting with this character, from my point of view, it’s like ‘this guy does what this guy already does. He fills the role that this character already has. So while you may like this character and he’s interesting, that doesn’t really merge well, here.” – Sakurai

So, I assuming nothing from Tekken nor Soul Calibur then, right?

That's a shame. I was really hoping for someone like that.

same here for king of fighters and fatal fury, but I digress
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sinnesloschen on July 29, 2013, 03:20:48 am
...and his running A, his recovery (which was terrible, save for the whole explosion part), his side smash and probably a bunch of others. To me, he was only a real clone in the first Smash Bros.
Not really even that. His running A was different and all of his moves still worked differently.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 29, 2013, 03:22:15 am
Yeah, tripping was awesome right?

I never said I liked tripping. But I loved the "fuck you"s he did to the pro players from Melee.

Those weren't "fuck yous" to pro players, those were fuck yous to intelligent people who like good game design, and everyone over the age of 10.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on July 29, 2013, 04:40:44 am
The only bad shit that was legitimately bad and not just different by design was the tripping and maybe the hitstun, but IDK about the latter. The former is definitely gone so yeah, thank god. The only fuck you to melee players was that the game was slower and not as fast paced, but that's more of just the general direction as opposed to a direct insult. This game looks to be faster to an extent, which should be more than enough. LC-DDM, I'd advise you to stop because melee players generally populate the Brawl scene too, professional ones maybe not, but standard ones? Yeah.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on July 29, 2013, 04:53:00 am
I dunno about you, but I'm sure Sakurai didn't intend the Smash series to be taken so seriously, so Brawl was his own little revolt.

Then he either realized he was being too melodramatic or he just wanted to shut the whiners up about Brawl not being Melee again.

So no, I'm not shutting up. Melee players can have their thing, but to me they've nothing to complain since there's a mod to hold on to their mentality in Brawl, which will probably live for many years to come until the Wii U is cracked and Project M2 becomes a thing, if Smash 4 doesn't live up to their Ramsay-esque high expectations.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on July 29, 2013, 05:03:22 am
yea thats why he put that gigantic story mode, all those characters, and all that bonus material in the game, wonky mechanic aside, just to flip off fans of melee and not because he wanted to try something new right



the fuck are you talking about
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Do not even ask on July 29, 2013, 05:05:57 am
Sakurai is an evil mastermind trying to kill the FGC with his bad games. It's all so clear now!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 29, 2013, 05:22:47 am
i thought that was ono's role hahahahahaha
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: ExShadow on July 29, 2013, 05:44:28 am
fuck
You use that word a lot
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Do not even ask on July 29, 2013, 08:24:48 am
i thought that was ono's role hahahahahaha

They're both part of the gaming Illuminati trying to keep Ron Paul down.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on July 29, 2013, 01:38:03 pm
yea thats why he put that gigantic story mode, all those characters, and all that bonus material in the game, wonky mechanic aside, just to flip off fans of melee and not because he wanted to try something new right



the fuck are you talking about

Nice try, but when I said that shit, I wasn't talking about the stuff the pros would care about for all of one day before going back to their Vs. cave. I mean the crap that they give so much of a hoot about.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on July 29, 2013, 01:54:37 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordorly.png[/avatar]Pic of the day 7/29

(http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/daily_zpsec06b865.jpg)

Wii Fit Trainer cannot resist Donkey Kong's sweet monkey ass.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 29, 2013, 03:53:19 pm
here's the same picture sans jpeg mauling
(http://i.imgur.com/Ia1QCoS.jpg)
Pic of the day. Let's stretch our backs.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 29, 2013, 07:27:48 pm
What is with all of the Wii Fit Trainer pics?

It is not like she is a fan favorite before her reveal.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 29, 2013, 07:29:00 pm
maybe because she became a favorite after her reveal?????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on July 29, 2013, 07:41:20 pm
fuck
You use that word a lot

i never noticed

Nice try, but when I said that shit, I wasn't talking about the stuff the pros would care about for all of one day before going back to their Vs. cave. I mean the crap that they give so much of a hoot about.

the fuck are you talking about

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 29, 2013, 08:00:43 pm
here's the same picture sans jpeg mauling
(http://i.imgur.com/Ia1QCoS.jpg)
Pic of the day. Let's stretch our backs.

What if something more sinister is going on here?  What if the Trainer has turned DK into a living puppet?  What if she is making him dance for her twisted amusement?

What is with all of the Wii Fit Trainer pics?

It is not like she is a fan favorite before her reveal.

I dunno that's never happened before in this series. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Falcon)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on July 29, 2013, 08:40:51 pm
That image reminds me of that back breaker thing that Goku does sometimes.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 30, 2013, 03:48:05 pm
30/7
(http://i.imgur.com/PnppuW4.jpg)
Pic of the day.  It's easy to overlook town scenery while you're battling.
sakurai also posted the following in his japanese account
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「きょうの一枚」は、元々はスタッフへの個人的サービスとして撮り、社内ウェブで毎日更新していたものでした。が、せっかくだからみなさんにも公開したほうが、楽しめる人が多くなるのではないかと考え、いまに至ります。あくまでおまけなので、通常の情報公開はいずれ個別に考えなければなりませんね。
running this through google translate gives the following
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The "one piece of today", it was what originally took as a personal service to the staff, it was updated daily in-house web. But, the idea is better to open to you much effort, people can enjoy and do not be very large, it leads to now. Because it is a bonus only, information disclosure normal I must be considered individually either.
still lost
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Byakko on July 30, 2013, 03:58:16 pm
"Today's pic" was put up on the company web every day as a personal favor for the staff. The line of thought for that was to allow as many people as possible to enjoy it publicly. At the end of the day, it's just a bonus, so in the future, regular new info will be handled on a case by case basis.
Taking it to mean "don't be surprised if we stop updating the daily pic and future new information is given out more rarely and less offhandedly like these pics were". (it doesn't actually say this is the last pic but he's preparing everyone for that, this one might or might not be the last)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 30, 2013, 04:56:27 pm
thanks for the translation. i'd miss the daily pictures, but then again they barely provided new information so it wouldn't be a big deal.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on July 31, 2013, 02:41:01 am
I mean all the pros care about is Vs.

Like literally Brawl to them could be just Vs. mode with new characters and boring stages everywhere and have it play -exactly- like Melee and they'd be happy.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 31, 2013, 02:45:35 am
wouldn't we all ?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 31, 2013, 04:51:30 am
i spent most of my smash time on all 3 games in vs so i'd be happy too
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Laharl on July 31, 2013, 04:54:05 am
correct me if im wrong but don't most of us play the other modes just to UNLOCK stuff for use in vs? I mean thats why I did it I wanted to unlock everyone and stages so I could use them how I wanted. If it was just vs and classic id be perfectly ok with that. I hated replaying adventure so many times to get everything in melee.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 31, 2013, 04:57:05 am
ya melee and brawl's single player stuff is fun to go through, but just once or twice imo. it doesn't have as much lasting appeal as a good vs mode
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on July 31, 2013, 05:01:33 am
Shut up drewski.
You hush your mouth.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 31, 2013, 05:26:58 am
Because Chrom is pretty much guaranteed to be in anyway and he's really boring anyway.
shut the heck up
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on July 31, 2013, 11:00:58 am
I wouldn't want boring flat stages. Poké-Floats is the best stage :P

Pros aren't pros if they can't adapt their strategy to whatever's thrown at them. Also, items are silly and what make Smash. Turning them off is boring, dull and Fox-only, Final Destination.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 31, 2013, 11:17:29 am
Pros aren't pros if they can't adapt their strategy to whatever's thrown at them. Also, items are silly and what make Smash. Turning them off is boring, dull and Fox-only, Final Destination.

I don't think you understand anything about professional play.

If you were to fight a professional Melee player in an environment that rewarded skill and not random bullshit and luck factor, you would lose horribly and you'd hate the game and probably cry.  Dealing with random factor BS is not "adapting" to jack shit, imagine if SF had random stage hazards and items you could pick up.  If you can't comprehend this, then I'm even more depressed that Sakurai caters to this crowd instead of trying to please everyone like he did with Melee.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on July 31, 2013, 12:51:14 pm
If by "everyone" you mean "people that tried to make a party game into competitive bullshit" then yes.

Smash is, by no stretch of the imagination, competitive, at least in terms of conventional fighting games. In a conventional fighter, you can study a character and your opponent's, know their strengths and weaknesses, and play accordingly. It's a test of your reflexes and memorization skills.

Smash, however, focuses on a different part of your intelligence: improvisational ability. It rewards players who can think on their feet and adapt to the situation. See an item drop? Either grab it and use it, or get the hell away from it if you know your opponent is going to get it. The stage is moving? Better keep up with it.

Smash isn't an organized, fair game, but it shouldn't be knocked for not following a set of predictable rules. Think of most fighting games as Will Turner, and think of Smash Bros as Jack Sparrow. Watching Will's disciplined sword-fighting is definitely impressive, but you can't deny that Jack Sparrow overcoming impossible odds with his quick-thinking is one of big draws of the movies.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on July 31, 2013, 04:44:27 pm
31/7
(http://i.imgur.com/jh8z5Vf.jpg)
Pic of the day.  Dazed…

a translation for sakurai's post was also provided
Quote
The “pic of the day” originally started as a fun internal update for the people developing the game - we would put up a daily shot on our own corporate website. We soon decided that we wanted to share the fun with the general public, so that’s where we are today.  Please keep in mind, though, that this is just meant to be a little bonus feature - we'll continue to release other information about the game on the website.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Darkflare on July 31, 2013, 06:40:43 pm
Dealing with random factor BS is not "adapting" to jack shit, imagine if SF had random stage hazards and items you could pick up.

Injustice?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: The Answer on July 31, 2013, 06:55:47 pm
Isn't the point of Smash bros is to play how you want? If you don't wanna play with items why not turn them off? Whats the big deal?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on July 31, 2013, 06:58:15 pm
Plus you can turn off the stage hazards and transitions in Injustice and you don't see anybody doing it in the competitive scene, even when they're at the mercy of equally unfair setups due to power advantages over certain items.
Hue.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 31, 2013, 07:02:12 pm
Because stage hazards in Injustice AREN'T RANDOM. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on July 31, 2013, 07:05:40 pm
There are people that play chess tournaments, and there are people that play TETRIS tournaments. random elements you have to adapt for is present on competitive games for ages.
Soccer games have tons of random elements, not everyone gets on the field on advantages, if the game features those elements then they are there to be adapted to. Maybe if someone has a hammer you know what moves you can shoot at them or what items are best against them, maybe a certain item has disavantadges over other, it all seems like it could be part of the competition.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 31, 2013, 07:10:54 pm
Those are completely different from fighting games where a randomness factor completely eliminates skill.  For a good example, look at Phoenix Wright in Marvel 3.  When he picks up evidence, it has about a 50% chance of being faulty and useless.  This is a huge reason why nobody but people with serious balls play him, well that and he takes a ton of work and a dedicated team to get going.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on July 31, 2013, 07:19:05 pm
That's because he got nerfed to hell and back after he was massively overused for having the definite best assist in the game. Unless you're dealing with pressure-centric, you already have literally two assists to call out for you to fetch evidence simultaneously and can get it all quite easily.

The reason why nobody has "serious balls" to use him competitively is because he's not a guaranteed win compared to the higher threats and takes more patience to use than, say, Vergil. Plus, anyone shooting for Turnabout ASAP will be easily read as hella telegraphed and players have learned to control that shit moderately now.

Might as well say there are no Faust players in GG because there's the risk of getting nothing but donuts and chocolate bars, and What's Next - possibly "BS random factor" incarnate - is an essential part to playing him, despite Nage being a prominent player in the GG scene.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 31, 2013, 07:20:05 pm
Jango said it well.

If by "everyone" you mean "people that tried to make a party game into competitive bullshit" then yes.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 31, 2013, 07:22:16 pm
Melee was fast, had a ton of single player content (with actual replay value!) and was crazy over the top.  How in the fuck does that not appeal to the casual crowd?  Who wants to play a SLOW party game?  Wouldn't you rather go to a party with loud music and dancing over a family friendly birthday bash with Twister and Monopoly?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on July 31, 2013, 07:23:38 pm
It's not slow when you have items on.
 :smug:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 31, 2013, 07:25:36 pm
Melee was fast, had a ton of single player content (with actual replay value!) and was crazy over the top.  How in the fuck does that not appeal to the casual crowd?  Who wants to play a SLOW party game?  Wouldn't you rather go to a party with loud music and dancing over a family friendly birthday bash with Twister and Monopoly?
Well im not an expert on the differences of melee and brawl but brawl was not dead slow either and the sheer randomness factor certainly made for a lot of unexpected moments, which is a very good things for a game like it.

Nintendo certainly needs to make sure the game is good, but focusing on the tryhard crowd is really not the way to go about it with a game like this.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 31, 2013, 07:27:48 pm
Brawl WAS dead slow compared to Melee.  The only thing Brawl had that was more fun party wise was the character lineup.  Melee had better stages for party nonsense too, Mute City dawg. 
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: The Answer on July 31, 2013, 07:30:15 pm
Speaking of items Evo 2008 had SSBB with items on so technically speaking items are competitive.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 31, 2013, 07:33:42 pm
Brawl WAS dead slow compared to Melee.  The only thing Brawl had that was more fun party wise was the character lineup.  Melee had better stages for party nonsense too, Mute City dawg. 
Not really. Aside from a few standouts, melee's stages were pretty bland. Brawl had a lot more variety of stages both visually and gameplay wise (even if some of them were really bad) and it even had some stages from the old games.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 31, 2013, 07:36:28 pm
Those are completely different from fighting games where a randomness factor completely eliminates skill.  For a good example, look at Phoenix Wright in Marvel 3.  When he picks up evidence, it has about a 50% chance of being faulty and useless.  This is a huge reason why nobody but people with serious balls play him, well that and he takes a ton of work and a dedicated team to get going.
I am not sure about capcom's games, but snk games have random damage.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on July 31, 2013, 07:38:41 pm
Brawl WAS dead slow compared to Melee.  The only thing Brawl had that was more fun party wise was the character lineup.  Melee had better stages for party nonsense too, Mute City dawg. 
Not really. Aside from a few standouts, melee's stages were pretty bland. Brawl had a lot more variety of stages both visually and gameplay wise (even if some of them were really bad) and it even had some stages from the old games.

Right, Brawl with its two Pokemon stadiums, Animal Crossing and Kid Icarus themed Battlefields and Final Destination with Meta Knight's laser in the back had more variety than the game with Mute City, Termina Bay, Poke Floats (which I don't even like) and Classic Kingdom 2.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 31, 2013, 07:41:32 pm
That's kind of a dumb way to compare all variety that the games supposedly have, but whatever. It's not that big of a deal.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Xanden on July 31, 2013, 08:49:18 pm
I feel as though Brawl is not one or the other. Say what you want, but I like to see SSB as both. Wanna have a party brawler? Have items on, pick your own stages, etc.

Wanna be competitive? Turn the stages you don't want off, set stage select to random, turn items off, and have a go at it (that's what I do, at least).

I mean, Melee I think wasn't even set to be a competitive fighter, they just had more speed because Sakurai wanted a more crazy and fast paced game. A lot of the combos and such weren't even supposed to be there. But people took it as such, and so it became the "competitive" game.

Brawl was his little revolt, trying to focus on more party play and such. I dunno why he chose to do what he did, but I think he was trying to do what melee wasn't.

I hope SSBU has a nice balance of the two. Something leaning more towards competitive gameplay of Melee, where you can pick it up and have tons of fun and feel like you know what to do, but more time playing it well allow you to learn more combos and techniques, but with the the modes from brawl (expect the story), and an update of brawl's roaster (which I thought was well crafted).
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on July 31, 2013, 09:59:36 pm
Those are completely different from fighting games where a randomness factor completely eliminates skill.  For a good example, look at Phoenix Wright in Marvel 3.  When he picks up evidence, it has about a 50% chance of being faulty and useless.  This is a huge reason why nobody but people with serious balls play him, well that and he takes a ton of work and a dedicated team to get going.

Its a brawler game, not a fighting game, the platforms and the items should be a dead give away, its the same type of game as power stone who also had guns and other items randomly being distributed.

Both players have a chance to get those items and both should work them out as best as they could.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DNZRX768 on July 31, 2013, 10:09:14 pm
If by "everyone" you mean "people that tried to make a party game into competitive bullshit" then yes.

Smash is, by no stretch of the imagination, competitive, at least in terms of conventional fighting games. In a conventional fighter, you can study a character and your opponent's, know their strengths and weaknesses, and play accordingly. It's a test of your reflexes and memorization skills.

Smash, however, focuses on a different part of your intelligence: improvisational ability. It rewards players who can think on their feet and adapt to the situation. See an item drop? Either grab it and use it, or get the hell away from it if you know your opponent is going to get it. The stage is moving? Better keep up with it.

Smash isn't an organized, fair game, but it shouldn't be knocked for not following a set of predictable rules. Think of most fighting games as Will Turner, and think of Smash Bros as Jack Sparrow. Watching Will's disciplined sword-fighting is definitely impressive, but you can't deny that Jack Sparrow overcoming impossible odds with his quick-thinking is one of big draws of the movies.
So, does that mean that people who says they are professional fighting-game players but only play in SSB series are not true fighting-game players anyway?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on July 31, 2013, 10:50:51 pm
That's a pretty dumb thing to label people as.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on July 31, 2013, 11:55:50 pm
correct me if im wrong but don't most of us play the other modes just to UNLOCK stuff for use in vs? I mean thats why I did it I wanted to unlock everyone and stages so I could use them how I wanted. If it was just vs and classic id be perfectly ok with that. I hated replaying adventure so many times to get everything in melee.

Eh, I play Single just as much as I play Multi. Getting the game for just a part of it doesn't make all that much sense to me.

I wouldn't want boring flat stages. Poké-Floats is the best stage :P

Pros aren't pros if they can't adapt their strategy to whatever's thrown at them. Also, items are silly and what make Smash. Turning them off is boring, dull and Fox-only, Final Destination.

Infinithis.

Because stage hazards in Injustice AREN'T RANDOM.

And even if Brawl's were, they give you an assload of time to prepare yourself for the upcoming hazard. You'd have to have no sound to truly make the hazards "random".
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: 修羅 on August 01, 2013, 10:57:47 am
(http://i.imgur.com/H5e2GHE.jpg)
Here's Pit fighting a giant Donkey Kong-shaped tumor.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SoldierSunday on August 01, 2013, 11:05:40 am
I have no idea what that stage could be. Inside Bowser? Man i dont know...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on August 01, 2013, 03:04:04 pm
It's the Kid Icarus Stage their now inside the reset bomb.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 01, 2013, 04:37:13 pm
Pic of the day. Come on out, Cragalanche! (Not really.)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on August 01, 2013, 07:32:29 pm
Your post doesn't have an image!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on August 02, 2013, 07:21:31 am
Wanna know what else was slow? Smash 64. There, I said it. It wasn't AS slow as Brawl, but that's a matter of pacing. ST is a lot faster than SF4 if you wanna do fightans too.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jango on August 02, 2013, 09:04:17 am
So, does that mean that people who says they are professional fighting-game players but only play in SSB series are not true fighting-game players anyway?
I don't know where you're getting the idea I said that, nor how I am implying that. All I'm saying is that Smash utilizes a different sort of intelligence than "fair" fighting games.

The only reason I don't say Smash isn't a fighting game is because Sakurai specifically said it isn't, so I'll take his word for it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on August 02, 2013, 09:10:13 am
Most people who play competitive Smash don't play fighters anyway.  Would you expect Chris G to start playing professional CoD?  Alex Vaille to play competitive Starcraft?  Marn to play competitive League of Le-hey wait a minute...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: DJH on August 02, 2013, 06:03:59 pm
So, does that mean that people who says they are professional fighting-game players but only play in SSB series are not true fighting-game players anyway?
I don't know where you're getting the idea I said that, nor how I am implying that. All I'm saying is that Smash utilizes a different sort of intelligence than "fair" fighting games.

The only reason I don't say Smash isn't a fighting game is because Sakurai specifically said it isn't, so I'll take his word for it.

Smash is more of a sumo wrestling based game, with certaint fighting game elements. You could basically call smash a genre because it's not like any other fighting game, which is why most competetive players play Melee, Smash 64, or Brawl, and not other fighting games, because its just too different.
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Post by: Laharl on August 02, 2013, 06:09:14 pm
smash = sumo .... um ok.
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Post by: DJH on August 02, 2013, 06:14:36 pm
smash = sumo .... um ok.
The point of sumo is to force your opponent to step out of the ring

The point of smash is to knock your opponent off of the stage.

Similar concepts, but smash just has fighting game elements added to it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Iced on August 02, 2013, 06:15:24 pm
not a bad comparison, both happen in a finite area where you have to weaken your opponent enough that you can shove them out of it in order to secure a win point.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on August 02, 2013, 06:32:32 pm
lol yes that is a nice and racist observation.
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Post by: DJH on August 02, 2013, 06:58:24 pm
lol yes that is a nice and racist observation.
How is it racist?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 02, 2013, 07:08:58 pm
not in a way that you should worry

(http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss350/AStarSpangledGirl/racist_dog.jpg)
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Post by: Titiln on August 02, 2013, 09:19:14 pm
2/8
(http://i.imgur.com/cHgHVop.jpg)
Pic of the day.  Mega Upper vs. Super Jump Punch.
it's a showryuken showoff! sorry for the horrible pun
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Post by: Duos.act on August 02, 2013, 09:25:16 pm
2 uppercuts on the boxing ring stage?  I think we all know what this is hinting at!















Absolutely nothing.
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Post by: shin. [OFWGKTA] on August 02, 2013, 09:45:50 pm
little mac knuckle joe confirmed playable character
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 05, 2013, 04:30:18 pm
5/8
(http://i.imgur.com/i5aEeyS.jpg)
Pic of the day. A mysterious space warrior appears.
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Post by: Cazaki on August 05, 2013, 10:29:36 pm
No witty Titiln comment for that one? I'm disappointed.

I don't recognize where that stage is from unfortunately, I'm assuming Skyward Sword. Sorry if it's already been discussed.
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Post by: 修羅 on August 05, 2013, 10:43:28 pm
Holy shit, I totally forgot about that Skyloft stage.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 06, 2013, 01:48:29 am
No witty Titiln comment for that one? I'm disappointed.
i was going to post one (that's a weird kirby redesign/did adam authorize that helmet modification?/it's the year of our lord 2013 and 3d games still have weird clipping) but they were all bad
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Post by: Titiln on August 06, 2013, 05:09:14 pm
6/8
(http://i.imgur.com/Hdhg1DH.jpg)
Pic of the day.
This island looks familiar!

that's from pilotwings snes. i guess it's part of a stage in which you fly around in a plane? i don't know

there's a nintendo direct tomorrow! will we see a new character? probably not
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Post by: Hyogo on August 06, 2013, 05:20:54 pm
To be honest, I just want them to confirm Online play on the 3DS version.
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Post by: GTA on August 06, 2013, 08:59:55 pm
It's Shirley's lesson 2 background and i was playing Pilotwings right now.
Memories at this awesome nostalgia...
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Post by: Person Man on August 06, 2013, 09:01:16 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordbutterfly.png[/avatar]I wonder how that's actually going to be used.  It looks too flat to just be the background of a stage.
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Post by: LC-DDM on August 07, 2013, 02:42:25 am
And then people complain about the Brawlmod stages being flat...

Well at least the pro folks might be whistling a happy tune for once. Nothing flatter than that.
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Post by: Sheng Long on August 07, 2013, 02:47:55 am
It's funny how developers have a lot more camera control of a game than the players do for shots like these. Then they either completely remove, or disable all the free camera control for whatever reason.
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Post by: Titiln on August 07, 2013, 02:51:37 am
And then people complain about the Brawlmod stages being flat...

Well at least the pro folks might be whistling a happy tune for once. Nothing flatter than that.
you're assuming that's the actual stage and not part of a bigger stage
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Post by: Tyrant Belial on August 07, 2013, 03:24:28 am
Might be part of a Retro stage. Though I can't think of things to go along with it.


I also just realized something I want back, the Metal Mario fight. I loved the music and stage, but that's unlikely.

Also despite how much I don't want to admit it I almost cried when he taunted me as I died the first time.
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Post by: Moon Girard on August 07, 2013, 04:14:41 pm
Luigi revealed in the Nintendo Direct.
(http://i.imgur.com/E9pzajj.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 07, 2013, 04:35:51 pm
7/8
(http://i.imgur.com/uSGlQMN.jpg)
Pic of the day. Two that are actually not so tall. Kirby's about 8 inches high, Captain Olimar maybe a little over an inch.

(http://i.imgur.com/mjxbDYj.jpg)
A REAL pic of the day--Luigi joins the battle! In prior games, we've never introduced Luigi before release, but why not? This is the "Year of Luigi," after all.
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Post by: Moon Girard on August 07, 2013, 04:42:04 pm
Site updated has some more screenshots for him
http://www.smashbros.com/sp/us/characters/luigi.html
Links to dream team so they might be revealing characters close to their game release to promote them.
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Post by: Koop on August 07, 2013, 04:59:45 pm
there's a nintendo direct tomorrow! will we see a new character? probably not

fufufu

Yay for year of Luigi!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 07, 2013, 05:08:29 pm
luigi isn't really a new character though
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Post by: Kanbei on August 08, 2013, 03:11:25 am
I kinda don't that. How he is a regular character now, instead of unlockable one. But oh well I'll get used to it.
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Post by: Cazaki on August 08, 2013, 03:29:17 am
dat hd green fireball
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Post by: PBRTODD101 on August 08, 2013, 03:41:49 am
I kinda don't that. How he is a regular character now, instead of unlockable one. But oh well I'll get used to it.

This doesn't really rule him being an unlockable out though. He'll probably still be an unlockable along with Mega Man.
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Post by: Titiln on August 08, 2013, 03:42:37 am
snake was one of the first characters revealed for brawl and he was unlockable
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Post by: drewski90 on August 08, 2013, 03:53:10 am
is anyone hoping for nintendo ninjas to be there?
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Post by: Cazaki on August 08, 2013, 03:59:08 am
I'm not sure what you mean by nintendo ninjas
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Post by: drewski90 on August 08, 2013, 04:08:22 am
I'm not sure what you mean by nintendo ninjas

ryu hayabusa was in nintendo before tecmo
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Post by: Duos.act on August 08, 2013, 04:15:15 am
Nope. (http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/568362-ninja-gaiden)
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Post by: drewski90 on August 08, 2013, 04:20:16 am
Nope. (http://www.gamefaqs.com/arcade/568362-ninja-gaiden)

ok, it counts as a third party character
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Post by: SNT on August 08, 2013, 04:26:15 am
is anyone hoping for nintendo ninjas to be there?
Kat and Ana?  They're already Assist Trophies.

Takamaru would be pretty boss though.
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Post by: drewski90 on August 08, 2013, 04:35:44 am
still waiting for newcomer pokemon like zoroark and/or infernape to be there
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on August 08, 2013, 11:50:54 am
Infernape has little chance. The Pokémon seem to be Pikachu, Jigglypuff and "Pokémon of the hour", which this time around will either be Zoroark, Mewtwo's new forme, or Genesect. Pokémon Trainer was just a stupid gimmick and I hope he doesn't return.
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Post by: Titiln on August 08, 2013, 06:45:50 pm
8/8
(http://i.imgur.com/F6FGuSB.jpg)
Pic of the day. Take a deep breath…

take a deep breath... why? should we take a deep breath because a new character will be revealed tomorrow??????
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Post by: Koop on August 08, 2013, 07:42:57 pm
Hopefully you'll be right.
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Post by: GTA on August 08, 2013, 08:07:55 pm
Who knows Koopakoot, who knows...
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Post by: Titiln on August 10, 2013, 04:36:22 am
9/8
(http://i.imgur.com/cVV8dY2.jpg)
Pic of the day. Oh well…

helL yes. luigi still has that taunt. day one buy.

that's all for this week! see you next week where sakurai will hopefully confirm scrooge mcduck to promote the upcoming ducktales remake
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Post by: drewski90 on August 10, 2013, 04:39:42 am
9/8
(http://i.imgur.com/cVV8dY2.jpg)
Pic of the day. Oh well…

helL yes. luigi still has that taunt. day one buy.

that's all for this week! see you next week where sakurai will hopefully confirm scrooge mcduck to promote the upcoming ducktales remake

wait is that a rumor or something? Also, fun fact, alan young is around 90 years old this time
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Post by: Jmorphman on August 10, 2013, 06:34:00 am
Thanks, drewski.
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Post by: Titiln on August 10, 2013, 06:58:33 am
Also, fun fact, alan young is around 90 years old this time
he should change his name to alan old or sumptin tss
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on August 10, 2013, 12:01:16 pm
If you can still do the voice of a Scottish duck, it doesn't matter how old you are.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 12, 2013, 03:36:30 pm
12/8
(http://i.imgur.com/cwqwZgl.jpg)
Pic of the day. A big fire breaks out in Gerudo Valley.  Epona, help!
link escapes from an offscreen yoga inferno by dhalsim
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Post by: GOH on August 12, 2013, 04:07:08 pm
Talk about burning bridges amirite hehehe

Sorry
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Post by: Nero D. on August 12, 2013, 08:44:02 pm
*nero d. superkicks the shit out of goh's chin*

tp gerudo valley eh

nice

this just came from the depths of my mind, but a randomizing stage, that shifts thru all the oot temples with matching stage hazards would be pretty dope imo

or a lttp stage that shifts between light world and dark world with matching hazards or some shit cmon sakurai
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Post by: Titiln on August 13, 2013, 08:51:25 pm
13/8
(http://i.imgur.com/CGf5rwL.jpg)
Pic of the day. A BOMB!
oh my god rush a bomb
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Post by: GOH on August 13, 2013, 09:57:46 pm
Rush is all like "what"
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Post by: walt on August 13, 2013, 10:43:33 pm
Luigi got a Tandem engine, like SETH?
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on August 13, 2013, 10:53:35 pm
Luigi got a Tandem engine, like SETH?

Will we become a part of him, too?
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Post by: MUGENMinor92 on August 14, 2013, 01:45:36 am
13/8
(http://i.imgur.com/CGf5rwL.jpg)
Pic of the day. A BOMB!
oh my god rush a bomb

WAH!
THERE'S A BOMB ON HIS CHEST!
BOMB CHEST!
BOMB CHEST!!

(http://media.tumblr.com/8bcf978cd394e2025085f9aec3163a4d/tumblr_inline_monuyp67ts1qz4rgp.png)
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Post by: Titiln on August 14, 2013, 05:19:46 pm
14/8
(http://i.imgur.com/o3Vvyux.jpg)
Pic of the day. Takeoff!
alright, so this stage takes place in a plane. wuhu island (from wii sports resorts and pilotwings 3ds) is also visible in the background. i wonder if the plane goes there as well
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Post by: MUGENMinor92 on August 14, 2013, 11:54:15 pm
14/8
(http://i.imgur.com/o3Vvyux.jpg)
Pic of the day. Takeoff!
alright, so this stage takes place in a plane. wuhu island (from wii sports resorts and pilotwings 3ds) is also visible in the background. i wonder if the plane goes there as well

Only time will tell...
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Post by: MR. IBZS II on August 15, 2013, 12:39:17 am
Oh boy, it's looking like VJ Red Hot Rumble again.....
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Post by: Person Man on August 15, 2013, 12:55:04 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava2.png[/avatar]Odd that the Pilotwings stage is coming from the Wii U version, since the game this all comes from was a handheld game.  Unless this is being called a Wii Sports Resort stage? 
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Post by: Titiln on August 15, 2013, 01:02:18 am
the part the plane is currently at is from the snes pilotwings, wuhu island might just be a background thing and completely irrelevant to the stage
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Post by: Duos.act on August 15, 2013, 02:58:29 am
Maybe the plane travels through locales from several games, like the island from Wind Waker and Yoshi's Island and Cinnabar Island etc.
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Post by: Person Man on August 15, 2013, 03:21:02 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordshrug.png[/avatar]I dunno, it's probably more likely that the plane will just circle the island and show off the different locations there.

Although now that I think of it, if that leak claiming that Mii is going to be a playable character is true then Wuhu Island would actually make for a decent home stage for it.  Out of the three games it's been in, two of them had only Miis as player characters.
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Post by: MR. IBZS II on August 15, 2013, 03:22:18 am
What about various other games, like New Super Mario Bros. Mii U?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 16, 2013, 07:19:58 am
15/8
(http://i.imgur.com/9NBhIyw.jpg)
Pic of the day. Isn't it a bit early to be worn out?
luigi is also bad at working out
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Post by: Long John Killer on August 16, 2013, 07:42:21 am
He's also a vampire, apparently.
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Post by: TrinitroRoy on August 16, 2013, 08:08:06 am
Holy shit, now that you mention it, I can't unsee this anymore.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on August 16, 2013, 04:21:06 pm
15/8
(http://i.imgur.com/9NBhIyw.jpg)
Pic of the day. Isn't it a bit early to be worn out?
luigi is also bad at working out
OTP !
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Post by: Titiln on August 16, 2013, 04:23:45 pm
16/8
(http://i.imgur.com/1AIRk36.jpg)
Pic of the day. Here's the X Bomb from Kid Icarus: Uprising. Not to be mistaken for the one from Meteos.
the X bomb... megaman x?????????????????????

that's it for this week, see you next week where sakurai will hopefully confirm parasoul from skullgirls to promote the game's pc release

      Posted: August 20, 2013, 08:20:03 am
19/8
(http://i.imgur.com/AsV3Wh4.jpg)
Pic of the day. Right back atcha! (everyone can do this)

everyone except for geno, who won't be in the game
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Post by: Titiln on August 20, 2013, 06:37:44 pm
20/8
(http://i.imgur.com/N4ivXus.jpg)
Pic of the day. Out of the blue, here's a new stage--the Pyrosphere from Metroid: Other M! An enemy from Samus's past may appear at any second…

RIDLEY CONFIRMED!!! for stage hazard
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Post by: Bastard Mami on August 20, 2013, 06:40:34 pm
why is samus wearing an armour ?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on August 20, 2013, 06:42:29 pm
everyone except for geno, who won't be in the game
Lol.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 20, 2013, 06:42:55 pm
hey E do you know if samus has bigger breasts in other m compared to her brawl model
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on August 20, 2013, 06:46:57 pm
If i never played Metriod before Smash would make me think 95% of Metriod games took place in a lava setting needs more non Lava levels from Metriod Phendrana Drifts would be a cool one, Also i hope they don't use Other M Ridley words can't describe how hideous he looks.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on August 20, 2013, 07:00:21 pm
hey E do you know if samus has bigger breasts in other m compared to her brawl model
I know.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on August 21, 2013, 09:27:46 am
http://i.imgur.com/N4ivXus.jpg
Pic of the day. Out of the blue, here's a new stage--the Pyrosphere from Metroid: Other M! An enemy from Samus's past may appear at any second…
Ugh, what a boring and generic choice. Although I guess they could've picked worse from Other M?

Man, Metroid has so many cool environments, why did they go with lava again? Where's my Torvus Bog stage!? >:[
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Post by: vgma2 on August 21, 2013, 02:12:56 pm
Maybe we'll get two new Metroid stages like in the previous two Smash Bros. games.
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Post by: Titiln on August 21, 2013, 06:08:50 pm
21/8
(http://i.imgur.com/7sHATrf.jpg)
Pic of the day. I guess we haven't shown the Villager or the Wii Fit Trainer on the 3DS until now. By the way, their outlines can be made thinner or made to disappear completely.

that last bit is especially interesting for those that weren't fond of the outlines in the 3ds version
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Post by: Mgbenz on August 21, 2013, 06:29:42 pm
That's great. I actually prefer no outlines when they give me the option like in some DS games.
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Post by: Sheng Long on August 21, 2013, 07:02:14 pm
If it's an option, why don't they show a screen of how it looks without the outlines then? Though I bet at least 75% of the players would turn the outlines off. ;)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on August 21, 2013, 07:03:15 pm

Ugh, what a boring and generic choice. Although I guess they could've picked worse from Other M?

Man, Metroid has so many cool environments, why did they go with lava again? Where's my Torvus Bog stage!? >:[
I want some Phazon damn it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on August 21, 2013, 07:09:52 pm
I want my Tallon Overworld, dammit!

Seriously, if EXShadow's is beautiful enough, imagine it in glorious HD on the Wii U :D
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on August 21, 2013, 07:58:49 pm
I hope you put some shades on first, 'cause the quality will blind you.
If Tallon Overworld HD should ever become a thing, that is.
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Post by: MR. IBZS II on August 21, 2013, 09:35:58 pm
Brinstar Depths would be cool again.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on August 22, 2013, 05:15:45 am
I want some Phazon damn it.
Dark World transition! Fight over the light crystal shield thingy, or else you slowly take damage! Phazon and Ing and shit in the background! It writes itself!!!
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Post by: Berry on August 22, 2013, 07:32:33 pm
Dude that's perfect. Nintendo pls.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Mechy on August 22, 2013, 07:36:58 pm
Banned in tournaments.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Long John Killer on August 22, 2013, 07:44:04 pm
Even for Smash Bros., that idea sounds a little gimmicky....I mean, you'll need to keep on hitting those light crystals to keep the light zones open, the Ing will keep kill stealing, everything will be so dark and purple....

I love it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on August 22, 2013, 09:17:46 pm
Banned in tournaments.

Like all other non-flat stages.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MR. IBZS II on August 22, 2013, 09:32:49 pm
Or anything that isn't Final Destination.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 22, 2013, 10:03:02 pm
22/8
(http://i.imgur.com/3jzfEU7.jpg)
Pic of the day. Wii Fit Trainer knocks in a header! This lethal move is based off of one of the Wii Fit Balance Games.
here's wii fit trainer giving some head hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by: walt on August 22, 2013, 11:03:53 pm
They should call it WII FIT TRAINER PIC OF THE DAY.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 22, 2013, 11:12:43 pm
I just noticed she is barefoot; she is so gonna grab a fun demographic's attention.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on August 23, 2013, 11:19:53 am
I mean, you'll need to keep on hitting those light crystals to keep the light zones open, the Ing will keep kill stealing, everything will be so dark and purple....
Man, I didn't say you had to hit the crystals to keep them open!

I mean I thought about ING ATTACKS (they steal any items you're carrying too), but I thought that would be too gimmicky, maybe.

I just noticed she is barefoot; she is so gonna grab a fun demographic's attention.
Quentin Tarantino?
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Post by: Titiln on August 23, 2013, 05:54:13 pm
23/8
(http://i.imgur.com/uHKW9Ms.jpg)
Pic of the day. New and old planes makes a miraculous rendezvous.
they're flying to the wii sports resort island. this stage looks great

that's all for this week, see you next week where sakurai will hopefully confirm jigglypuff to help promote the release of pokemon rumble u
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on August 23, 2013, 06:38:23 pm
I'm sure they'll announce some Pokémon character when X and Y is released. I know this because my cousin knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy's butler who knows a guy who works at Nintendo as a sexy janitor.
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Post by: GTA on August 23, 2013, 06:50:55 pm
that's all for this week, see you next week where sakurai will hopefully confirm jigglypuff to help promote the release of pokemon rumble u

No.
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Post by: PBRTODD101 on August 23, 2013, 09:08:00 pm
You can't resist the entity that is Jigglypuff.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MR. IBZS II on August 23, 2013, 09:34:14 pm
F%*&. Awww man.....
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 23, 2013, 09:44:45 pm
what
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SageHarpuiaJDJ on August 24, 2013, 12:04:41 am
That whole airplane scene looks like some serious fun to play on. It also looks very unique.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MR. IBZS II on August 24, 2013, 03:24:58 am
Wow, tilting planes you have to jump on while fighting, hmmmmmmm..... That actually sounds cool!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on August 26, 2013, 03:14:13 pm
(http://www.destructoid.com//ul/260771-metroidstage.jpg)
Super Smash Bros. director Masahiro Sakurai revealed another of the upcoming Wii U/3DS game's stages on the Miiverse, not to be confused with the Dafoeverse. This time, it's the Pyrosphere from the best Metroid game ever, Metroid: Other M.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on August 26, 2013, 03:39:43 pm
No Elysia?

fuck dis shit
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MR. IBZS II on August 26, 2013, 11:21:41 pm
I'm digging the not so hardcore graphics. I like the lack of detail.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on August 26, 2013, 11:23:34 pm
that image was posted 6 days ago dawg
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on August 27, 2013, 01:51:08 am
Too slow
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 27, 2013, 08:14:56 am
http://www.destructoid.com//ul/260771-metroidstage.jpg
Super Smash Bros. director Masahiro Sakurai revealed another of the upcoming Wii U/3DS game's stages on the Miiverse, not to be confused with the Dafoeverse. This time, it's the Pyrosphere from the best Metroid game ever, Metroid: Other M.
thanks kotaku. also whoever wrote that blurb sucks, that stage is not in the 3ds version. fucking games journalism.

26/8
(http://i.imgur.com/aSA6h1l.jpg)
Pic of the day.  Ahem! You mind not touching my nose?
the game triple villager buries and mocks talent as usual
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on August 27, 2013, 11:58:35 am
Luigi knows what Villager's capable of. The cameramen even had to obscure his pure evil expression :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on August 27, 2013, 12:09:47 pm
http://www.destructoid.com//ul/260771-metroidstage.jpg
Super Smash Bros. director Masahiro Sakurai revealed another of the upcoming Wii U/3DS game's stages on the Miiverse, not to be confused with the Dafoeverse. This time, it's the Pyrosphere from the best Metroid game ever, Metroid: Other M.
thanks kotaku. also whoever wrote that blurb sucks, that stage is not in the 3ds version. fucking games journalism.




^^ That was not from Kotaku but Destructoid, they wrote about it just yesterday so i thought its news :(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 27, 2013, 04:20:25 pm
yeah i was calling you kotaku for posting old news

27/8
(http://i.imgur.com/Bmhuqhm.png)
Pic of the day. A Reset Bomb has gone off! It's meant to return the surrounding area back to nature.
part of the uprising stage i guess
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on August 27, 2013, 06:58:41 pm
26/8
(http://i.imgur.com/aSA6h1l.jpg)
Pic of the day.  Ahem! You mind not touching my nose?
the game triple villager buries and mocks talent as usual

he hasnt completely buried him since he knows he's still popular with the fans so he has another shot at the smash ball
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on August 28, 2013, 04:21:05 pm
Hat clipping with the hair, how nice.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Hyogo on August 28, 2013, 04:25:55 pm
It's a piece of grass.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 29, 2013, 06:11:24 am
28/8
(http://i.imgur.com/G5Al1Rj.jpg)
Pic of the day. A panoramic view of Wuhu Island. The stage flies around the right-hand side of the mountain.
yay

     Posted: August 30, 2013, 07:04:00 am
29/8
(http://i.imgur.com/QbUex29.jpg)
Pic of the day. Link finishes off his move as Kirby dances.
link's hair color looks different but that's probably the lighting
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on August 30, 2013, 07:31:29 am
He looks so Maje... His Sheath is clipping through his pouch  :-\
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Post by: Jmorphman on August 30, 2013, 07:37:23 am
It's a magic intangible pouch, blessed by the three Goddesses. Duh.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on August 30, 2013, 11:27:12 am
Nintendo don't give a crap about clipping. Go them :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SlySuavity on August 30, 2013, 11:36:22 am
Here's to hoping he won't suck for once.

Right guys? :c
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on August 30, 2013, 11:38:30 am
I wouldn't care if Link was Melee Marth levels of BS, at this point he deserves it after the abuse and neglect he's gotten.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on August 30, 2013, 12:34:01 pm
Nintendo don't give a crap about clipping. Go them :P

There's clipping in almost every polygonal game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 30, 2013, 09:40:06 pm
30/8
(http://i.imgur.com/8JzDvjW.jpg)
Pic of the day. The same name, yet a completely different move. Mega Man's Charge Shot is a chargable side smash attack.
charge shot battle. classic gaming 2 da max.

that's it for this week, see you next week where sakurai will hopefully confirm greenman to help promote the new season of it's always sunny in philadelphia
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MR. IBZS II on August 30, 2013, 09:43:42 pm
Srsly? Is that show still around?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 30, 2013, 09:46:09 pm
it should be around forever because it owns
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: drewski90 on August 30, 2013, 10:14:18 pm
it should be around forever because it owns

I've watched all seasons of that show on netflix
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on August 30, 2013, 10:30:00 pm
#drewski
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on August 30, 2013, 11:10:08 pm
that's it for this week, see you next week where sakurai will hopefully confirm greenman to help promote the new season of it's always sunny in philadelphia
Sure, Greenman's got some great dance moves, but wouldn't it make more sense if it was Dayman? He is, after all, the champion of the sun, and a master of karate.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 30, 2013, 11:23:25 pm
dayman would be op, so no
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on August 30, 2013, 11:33:10 pm
All I know is that the Trashman and Talibum have gotta be in there.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MR. IBZS II on August 30, 2013, 11:48:10 pm
Or even better, someone from Guitar Hero.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Karasai on August 31, 2013, 12:20:21 am
The platform they're on looks like lifebars
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on August 31, 2013, 12:33:49 am
Or even better, someone from Guitar Hero.
that's terrible, i'm sorry
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Do not even ask on August 31, 2013, 01:14:40 am
Don't lie Titiln, you're never sorry.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on August 31, 2013, 01:18:03 am
The platform they're on looks like lifebars

Lifebars?
Spoiler: Because spiders (click to see content)

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Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Retro Respecter on August 31, 2013, 01:23:01 am
Don't lie Titiln, you're never sorry.

There is nothing wrong with an apology.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Tyrant Belial on August 31, 2013, 06:27:21 am
I want to make fun of uche for something, but I don't know what.

Also surprised his Charge Shot is just a normal Smash attack, though it makes sense not to make it a Normal B as then it would just be Samus'.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on August 31, 2013, 05:07:21 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordwhatever.png[/avatar]It's not that surprising considering that the mega buster is his standard neutral attack.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Tyrant Belial on September 02, 2013, 05:57:24 am
^
I keep forgetting that part.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: vgma2 on September 02, 2013, 06:02:37 am
Due to the nature of how his neutral attack and side smash will be projectiles, I guess we can assume they'll be reflectable, absorbable, etc.?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 02, 2013, 06:10:46 am
i don't see why not

     Posted: September 02, 2013, 09:04:16 pm
2/9
(http://i.imgur.com/oNqoo7i.jpg)
Pic of the day. Mario Bros., your days are numbered! Donkey Kong in the current build is super strong…but we'll be looking at the battle records when balancing out the characters, so nobody knows how he will turn out in the end.
a stronger donkey kong, very naise
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on September 02, 2013, 11:37:03 pm
Megaman is already in the game, why do you want him twice?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 03, 2013, 12:50:19 am
Unrelated:

Inb4 Keiji Inafune steps in, and introduces Mighty No. 9 as a secret character in the new SSB roster to help support the game. Though I don't think it'll ever happen. Most likely just wishful thinking.
yeah he's going to introduce a brand new character in the new smash brothers (out in 2014) from a game that will be released in 2015 (not on the wii u unless there's enough backing) to help support the kickstarter that ends in a month. jesus fucking christ wiiumario
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 03, 2013, 12:59:48 am
aliens.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 04, 2013, 12:57:25 am
3/9
(http://i.imgur.com/UyVdzl1.jpg)
Pic of the day. The Villager has two balloons. They can be popped one at a time.
the villager has two balloons and so does zero suit samus if you know what i mean!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 04, 2013, 01:06:32 am
Wonder if jumping on them will also pop them.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on September 04, 2013, 01:36:17 am
the villager has two balloons and so does zero suit samus if you know what i mean!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Her, uh, kidneys?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on September 04, 2013, 02:16:49 am
I'm surprised you didn't pose the screen shot sooner. It was up for a while, and now it's just been posted here?

No complaints though just noticing. ;)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 04, 2013, 02:22:04 am
the villager has two balloons and so does zero suit samus if you know what i mean!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Her, uh, kidneys?
The shoulder pads!

HUT HUT HUT
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 04, 2013, 02:23:40 am
I'm surprised you didn't pose the screen shot sooner. It was up for a while, and now it's just been posted here?

No complaints though just noticing. ;)
i, too, am surprised i have other shit to do during the day
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on September 04, 2013, 02:24:03 am
The shoulder pads!

HUT HUT HUT
But he said Zero Suit Samus!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 04, 2013, 02:24:55 am
I really should fucking read every related post again instead of just once.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on September 04, 2013, 02:25:44 am
Shame on you.

i, too, am surprised i have other shit to do during the day
I think you need to take this very important responsibility more seriously. You cannot tarry posting the screenshots, lest we have a riot on our hands!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on September 04, 2013, 02:26:53 am
he means her fucking boobs bright noa
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on September 04, 2013, 02:28:31 am
:|

I know. I was making a dumb joke.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 04, 2013, 02:33:19 am
(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t117/maximilianjenus/thejoke_zps3312c30f.jpg) (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/maximilianjenus/media/thejoke_zps3312c30f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on September 04, 2013, 02:49:22 am
:|

I know. I was making a dumb joke.

i know i was just...

oh god i cant do this *runs into a wall*
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 04, 2013, 02:54:46 am
This got awkward
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 04, 2013, 09:52:37 am
I'd say to post pictures of kittens to divert from the awkwardness, but then we'd divert from the original topic...again.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: GOH on September 04, 2013, 12:52:00 pm
oh god i cant do this *runs into a wall*
Now imagine me having to do this everyday. Yes I know it's painful to endure such a vile individual.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 04, 2013, 04:31:18 pm
So when that pic was posted...

Quote
well this makes ballon fighter chances being preety low so what retro character will be featured on ssb4?maybe that samurai guy?

This. This is the amount of bullshit I have to go through with illiterate mouthbreathers on another forum. They speculate so much it makes the Roster Rumors look sane by comparison.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 04, 2013, 06:41:10 pm
KC-MM?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 04, 2013, 07:01:21 pm
4/9
(http://i.imgur.com/r4QeO2J.jpg)
Pic of the day. His sliding move was originally used to pass under tight spaces.
if you look closely you can notice megaman sheds a tear because he can't do this to taskmaster or hawkeye in mvc3
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: walt on September 04, 2013, 07:04:19 pm
"Wait for the Memo" they said,
"You should get it any day now" they said.

  - Megaman, on the subject of not being invited to the MVC3 party
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 04, 2013, 11:08:58 pm
KC-MM?

Yes, though just three individuals. One is the classic noob type, the other hates grammar like it was poison (and he's portuguese, so -that's- a nice blotch), and the other had starting hacks whose model-rigs were god-awful and horribad.

That's not the entire speck of people IN the Smash thread, but unfortunately that's the lot that posts the most there.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 04, 2013, 11:13:52 pm
KC-MM?

Yes, though just three individuals. One is the classic noob type, the other hates grammar like it was poison (and he's portuguese, so -that's- a nice blotch), and the other had starting hacks whose model-rigs were god-awful and horribad.

That's not the entire speck of people IN the Smash thread, but unfortunately that's the lot that posts the most there.
It's common for bad posters to post a lot. I used to spam the games thread over and over, I had 1k posts, after the game posts no longer counted as real posts I dropped down to 150 :X
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 04, 2013, 11:54:22 pm
To be fair, there probably isn't a single community with Smash in the middle that doesn't have "those" kinds of people.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on September 05, 2013, 12:46:29 am
oh god i cant do this *runs into a wall*
Now imagine me having to do this everyday. Yes I know it's painful to endure such a vile individual.

i wouldnt have to if i had made it to the exit door of "quitting mugen forever"

in my hysteria i ran into a fucking wall so now im stuck here
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on September 05, 2013, 09:31:23 am
Now imagine me having to do this everyday. Yes I know it's painful to endure such a vile individual.
I hate you with every fiber of my being.

Quote
well this makes ballon fighter chances being preety low so what retro character will be featured on ssb4?maybe that samurai guy?
oh my god
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: SNT on September 05, 2013, 11:21:36 am
Quote
Megaman not being in MvC3
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on September 05, 2013, 06:07:42 pm
Can I has this day?


5/9
(http://sep.imghost.us/Hc3A.jpg)
Pic of the day. Mega Man looking down at an incoming Wii Fit Trainer.
Such a beautiful sight.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 05, 2013, 06:10:12 pm
the italic text is a quote from sakurai and not something i made up
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on September 05, 2013, 06:10:23 pm
I would have fucking nightmares if that pale weird woman would run into my direction!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 05, 2013, 06:12:34 pm
5/9
(http://i.imgur.com/NZdrPx4.jpg)
Pic of the day. An encounter in the middle of a marathon...?
megaman looks fuckin zooted
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 05, 2013, 06:28:58 pm
that's the most romantic smash picture i have seen since the one of snake trying to rape zamus.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on September 05, 2013, 06:30:31 pm
Okay where's the quote coming from? Is it on the Japanese site, but translated to English? I don't see it on the English site other than the pic of the day.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 05, 2013, 06:34:33 pm
miiverse
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on September 05, 2013, 06:38:17 pm
I was expecting Titiln to caption today's image better. :(
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 05, 2013, 06:42:46 pm
yeah but nmario sabotaged the thread
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on September 05, 2013, 06:48:32 pm
 :evilgrin:  :twisted:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 05, 2013, 07:02:56 pm
You bastard
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MUGENMinor92 on September 05, 2013, 10:21:20 pm
OK, So on a different note, it's been said that the roster may be smaller than Brawl's. If that's the case, who do you think will be cut?

My guess is ROB (even though I kinda liked him) and all the clones except Ganondorf, whom I, among many others, I'm pretty sure of it, DEFINITELY believe can be more than a slow Captain Falcon, and believe Sakurai can do him justice if given the chance.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on September 05, 2013, 10:35:11 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordintrigued.png[/avatar]I've said it before, but Ike is almost definitely on the way out in favor of Chrom, unless they decide to up the total number of Fire Emblem reps.  Toon Link will probably be one of the first to go if they're looking to trim the numbers down, along with ROB.  And Snake's got a pretty decent chance of getting the ax as well.

I used to think that Lucario was gone too, but Nintendo seems to be pushing him again with that fighting-game looking thing and the mega evolution in X and Y, so I don't know anymore.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 05, 2013, 10:36:18 pm
i don't think the roster will be smaller than brawl but i don't think everyone's returning either. toon link is definitely gone since he's in a stage background now. rob could be gone even though he's not a clone of anything, he just wasn't very popular. snake could be gone, which would be a shame. wolf could also be gone even though he was quite different from fox (landmaster aside). lucario could be gone in favor of mewtwo, ike could be gone in favor of chrom. i could see lucas getting cut too.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on September 05, 2013, 10:42:06 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordava-6.png[/avatar]Nah, Lucas isn't going anywhere.  IIRC, he was actually supposed to replace Ness all the way back in Melee, but Mother 3 kept getting delayed and pushed back so much that they weren't sure that the game would even exist at all by the time Melee was set to come out.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on September 05, 2013, 10:45:12 pm
I think the original cast from SSB N64 should stay, but then have the new characters, but not as huge as Brawl or Melee. As long as Mr. Sakurai can balance it out like that. ;)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: XANDERAC on September 05, 2013, 11:03:55 pm
I'm almost curious to see that if Toon Link just gets replaced by the new Link Between Worlds version of the character from the upcoming 3DS game, I wouldn't really mind at all if they just decided to remain with one only either.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 05, 2013, 11:18:32 pm
lucas was probably supposed to replace ness when mother 3 was going to get an international release, but the game was released very late into the gba's life cycle and was not released outside japan. he's likely gone
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 05, 2013, 11:50:46 pm
If you think about it, if you modelswapped Ganondorf with Deathborn from F-Zero, who would fit the moveset better? Yeah.

I dunno about Lucario being tossed. I personally think we'll get Jigglypuff back just because, but also both Mewtwo AND Lucario because of Mega Evolutions and all that. Heck, anything's better than Pokémon Trainer :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on September 06, 2013, 04:34:29 am
I actually hope Lucas gets cut.  Not even that he's a clone because he's certainly unique from Ness in a lot of ways, but unless Mother 3 is gonna get a worldwide release I don't care enough about him to be sad if he goes.  Ness will definitely stay though.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on September 06, 2013, 08:14:57 am
Well, I heard that Mother 3 gets re-released into something like a GBA counterpart of the VC and for overseas as well, so there's that.
However, I sadly cannot find the source anymore...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on September 06, 2013, 06:03:38 pm
6/9
(http://sep.imghost.us/HyUO.jpg)
Pic of the day: Although it'll deal Pit some damage, Thunder Jolt isn't powerful enough to stop the Upperdash Arm!
That's it for this week. Pretty shocking week that it is.

Next time when we reveal what happens when 6 joins with 9, until  7 8 it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 06, 2013, 06:16:26 pm
ugh
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 06, 2013, 06:26:25 pm
N-Mario used Thief!

Titiln became Disgusted!
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on September 06, 2013, 06:40:13 pm
Leave the being funny thing to Titiln you're not too good at it.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: D'Evil on September 07, 2013, 12:17:56 am
Pic of the day on a pole match. Titlin Vs N-Mario.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kanbei on September 07, 2013, 02:42:26 am
I am in favor of N-Mario sorry Titilin.  ;P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 07, 2013, 04:15:36 am
i care
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on September 07, 2013, 04:35:46 am
I wouldn't mind putting up the pic of the day segment to get that out of the way, and leave all the funny part to the T. :)

Though all seriousness, I mainly did the last few ones because of that one day I started noticing that he didn't put up the screen shot right away. I can usually get up around 12 PM EST to post it. Though from what I can tell, Sakurai's posts around 5 AM something, whatever time zone that is in Japan.

I can stop it completely, I just wanted a reaction to see what would happen if I had started doing it. ;)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 07, 2013, 04:37:26 am
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pit using his CF  new side b lol i still dont get why they made his side b be the same as CF but with a uprisisng weapon

What if I just post these gems from the other forum?

At least they're funnier than N-Mario's tirades, but then again anything is.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on September 08, 2013, 09:52:50 am
Just let Tilt post the screenies.
He IS the one that initiated the whole screenshot posting after all...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on September 08, 2013, 11:49:41 am
sup tiltin
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: JDD on September 08, 2013, 12:27:40 pm
+1 Titilin
-1 N-Mario
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 08, 2013, 06:34:17 pm
Unrelated:

Inb4 Keiji Inafune steps in, and introduces Mighty No. 9 as a secret character in the new SSB roster to help support the game. Though I don't think it'll ever happen. Most likely just wishful thinking.
Can I has
Next time when we reveal what happens when 6 joins with 9, until  7 8 it.
why would anyone want n-mario posting screenshots in this thread let alone posting in this thread
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on September 08, 2013, 06:36:54 pm
Because he is just another poster in this thread like everyone else and can post whatever he want, when he wants
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 08, 2013, 06:53:55 pm
you're missing the point as usual
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Sheng Long on September 08, 2013, 08:01:18 pm
Can ya'll get over it? He can have his "job" back. I'll just stop posting here.

Can't blame for trying though. ::)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 08, 2013, 08:04:06 pm
good
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Retro Respecter on September 08, 2013, 11:57:02 pm
Now that the drama section of the thread is over, can we please go back on topic? This is supposed to be a friendly forum.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on September 09, 2013, 12:39:29 am
no new friends

no new friends

no new friends

no no nooo
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 09, 2013, 12:55:29 am
Now that the drama section of the thread is over, can we please go back on topic? This is supposed to be a friendly forum.
if you want to help the thread get back on topic then post something relevant to the thread. it's obvious that the thread will go back to normal when there are news about the game. what a fucking useless post
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nate Nukem on September 09, 2013, 06:53:32 am
why would anyone want n-mario posting screenshots in this thread let alone posting in this thread
Because N-Mario posting screenshots while you bitch and whine over your self-entitlement issues is far more entertaining. 

Duhh.  :yeses:
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on September 09, 2013, 07:05:45 am
I dunno I think the consensus is pretty clear on this one.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 09, 2013, 01:39:44 pm
Now now, gentlemen. Let's not kick anyone out so....furiously, lest I have to exercise my strong-arm technique. As far as discussion goes, gonna light up a new candle and shoot on something I'm interested in for this game and that is Luigi's movelist. Granted they could port the old one over fine but one screenshot has him doing the pose from M&L Dream Team's official artwork. Maybe we'll see some Dream Team related goodies in there? Speculation on what, etc.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Koop on September 09, 2013, 02:07:23 pm
I think he's had that pose since Brawl, that's part of his ho ha hi he hu taunt.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 09, 2013, 03:30:58 pm
9/9
(http://i.imgur.com/G0uBrhf.jpg)
Pic of the day. Nothing to see here--just another airplane passing right above town with people fighting on it.
good thing he didn't post this picture two days from now

Because N-Mario posting screenshots while you bitch and whine over your self-entitlement issues is far more entertaining. 

Duhh.  :yeses:
yes i was the only one complaining about nmario's shitty posts. moron



     Posted: September 09, 2013, 03:52:34 pm
but one screenshot has him doing the pose from M&L Dream Team's official artwork. Maybe we'll see some Dream Team related goodies in there? Speculation on what, etc.
what screenshot, what artwork
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TRUEMicah on September 09, 2013, 04:01:46 pm
yes i was the only one complaining about nmario's shitty posts. moron
I didn't mind his post tbh.
I felt if you were already posting screenshots, there's no reason for others to post the exact same posts.
Plus, people were seemingly competing... to post said screenshots.  That alone is just... Yea.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Jmorphman on September 10, 2013, 10:34:14 am
good thing he didn't post this picture two days from now
I don't get it, why two days from now, were they supposed to announce something important then and if they showed this instead it would--oh. Ooooooh.

Oh man, that's just evil.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 10, 2013, 03:20:04 pm
10/9
(http://i.imgur.com/0gB8Pkw.jpg)
Pic of the day. Isn't Kirby drawn with a familiar artsy style?
the shading and background make me think this is a super mario galaxy stage???
(http://i.imgur.com/BjUMfE1.jpg)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Long John Killer on September 10, 2013, 03:39:52 pm
Super Kirby Universe confirmed for next WiiU Kirby game.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

But yeah, seems like a Super Mario Galaxy stage.  Would be a nice addition for sure.

Also reminds me of this (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f278/katietiedrich/comic75.jpg). (To this day, I'm pretty sure Smash Bros. secretly takes place in an apartment thanks to that comic)
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on September 10, 2013, 03:47:16 pm
I hope this means Rosalina is in the game someway.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on September 10, 2013, 03:59:28 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordintrigued.png[/avatar]I would love to see a Mario Galaxy stage with the same screwy gravity physics.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 10, 2013, 08:26:22 pm
Oh my lord that Kirby looks so round.

Seriously I don't see any edges on his general area.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 10, 2013, 08:40:11 pm
Somebody asked what screenshot and artwork for Luigi, alright, here you go
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
It just reminds me of it, it may have been in Brawl but with the recent release of Dream Team, it may very well be a thing. Plus the Smash Dojo even links you to Dream Team's page to learn more about Luigi. I just wanna have hopes.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 10, 2013, 08:45:46 pm
yeah he had that since brawl and the pose isnt very similar
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 10, 2013, 09:27:23 pm
Hand position isn't the only thing to note. It's really just identical posture, IMO. The gesture is the same, really. I just feel like they're gonna yank something Dream Team inspired in some way shape or form for Luigi.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TrinitroRoy on September 10, 2013, 09:40:59 pm
Oh no, we get Luigi's Negative Zone just like before.
It is pretty much a given. I'm sure that Nintendo will even bring Negative Zone to the next level, since it's the Year of Luigi.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on September 10, 2013, 10:16:40 pm
Hand position isn't the only thing to note. It's really just identical posture, IMO. The gesture is the same, really. I just feel like they're gonna yank something Dream Team inspired in some way shape or form for Luigi.

It's based on his Partners in time Artwork. (http://www.mariowiki.com/images/5/55/ML2Luigi.jpg) Though i do wish they would add something from the Mario and Luigi games it'd make their movesets a lot more interesting.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 10, 2013, 10:50:26 pm
...huh. Didn't actually know that, good catch! Still, the bio linking to Dream Team's web page makes me shoot my far-fetched theory gun and say something might be up with it, maybs.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 10, 2013, 10:56:30 pm
Oh no, we get Luigi's Negative Zone just like before.
It is pretty much a given. I'm sure that Nintendo will even bring Negative Zone to the next level, since it's the Year of Luigi.

Hopin' it stops time. :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 10, 2013, 10:57:38 pm
Make it fullscreen and unavoidable....if only, hahah. As a Luigi main, I am hopeful for movement speed buffs, I mean, hell, they made BOWSER faster! I just hope they don't change what makes Luigi unique. Give him better ground speed a bit, but do not change his horizontal air speed, he's more vertical and I like that :P
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 10, 2013, 11:07:04 pm
I just want Ganon not feeling like Falcon on steroids.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 10, 2013, 11:13:10 pm
I wish Ganon was still Falcon on steroids. That sheer power, so good.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on September 10, 2013, 11:14:21 pm
Yeah Brawl raped Ganon sadly.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 10, 2013, 11:14:34 pm
Damn straight, Zetryou. Thank god someone else loves unadulterated Gerudo fisticuffs. Ganon being Falcon on steroids is the most fun I've had with a clone character, who can't be played like Falcon anyways. It's not like it's Doctor Mario, people.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 10, 2013, 11:18:30 pm
I also liked Brawl Ganon, he did feel iffy yeah but I still managed to have fun with him. Side B was incredibly trollish.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 10, 2013, 11:19:40 pm
His new Side B was amazing but Brawl really gimped him. His animations for the most part actually got WORSE beyond the new Warlock Punch, and he was just too unsafe.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 10, 2013, 11:37:33 pm
Yeah looking back I hardly use many of his normal attacks, stuck it safe using his DAir and FAir I recall. I think I barely used anything besides his Down B when it came to that as well.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 10, 2013, 11:40:46 pm
Tis why I found Melee Ganon to be a lot more useful, A-move wise. Could've also been the whole hitstun change in Brawl but I feel like Melee Ganon animated better generally, but Brawl Ganon has dat Side+B.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 10, 2013, 11:45:19 pm
TOUCHDOWN

Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 10, 2013, 11:52:47 pm
Oh my god people still want clones back.

This is hilarious.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 10, 2013, 11:54:25 pm
Yeah it's funny that people enjoy these characters that's so dumb. You should probably get off that pedestal, we won't bite....hard. You should probably drop your superior ideals towards people who care for them because replies like those are just wastes of anyone in this thread's time. Period.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 10, 2013, 11:57:18 pm
Oh my god people still want clones back.

This is hilarious.
Most of them clones are better than most of the new additions anyway.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on September 10, 2013, 11:58:31 pm
I used to play a bit of Ganondorf on the side back in Melee, and what they did to him in Brawl was so atrocious it single handedly made me drop him.  If they bring him back here he doesn't have to be as good as he was in Melee but at least make him not as bad as his Brawl version.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 10, 2013, 11:59:56 pm
Maybe a good balance between the two?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 11, 2013, 12:02:45 am
Yeah. Ideally he'd have some anims from Melee but keep the Choke. I know I saw a cool new UpTilt concept for him at one point that wasn't the useless explosion kick, but a full unbridled overhead stomp complete with new animation. Pretty nifty, yeah.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on September 11, 2013, 12:03:31 am
Ideally I'd like him to be exact same as Melee but with his Brawl turnable Warlock Punch and new f+B properties.  Maybe a little bit more but I can't think of any right now.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on September 11, 2013, 12:04:36 am
I'd rather he use his sword in a few A attacks as well.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 11, 2013, 12:06:01 am
He could, yeah. Dtilt could use a sword swing if not to give him a good ranged poke, but I like the fisticuffs wayyyyy too much. I want him to keep his Jab, though. It reminds me a lot of Daimon's A, and I like that.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on September 11, 2013, 12:09:55 am
Yeah, it is pretty cool. Maybe replace the Utilt with a sword swing?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 11, 2013, 12:10:37 am
Upwards? Hm, maybs. Dtilt too probably. FTilt is great as a Gerudo Boot.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on September 11, 2013, 12:11:50 am
Yeah the Gerudo Big Boot's too good to leave out.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on September 11, 2013, 12:13:30 am
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordimpatient.png[/avatar]
Oh my god people still want clones back.

This is hilarious.
I know, right?  Why would anyone want one of the most important characters in one of the most influential game series in history to come back?  It's so funny and dumb that people like this character even though his moveset was kinda the same as another character's that one time.

Shut up.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 11, 2013, 12:19:10 am
Sorry, but I can't take seriously a group that in one game complained about clones and in the next begged for them to come back.

Oh my god people still want clones back.

This is hilarious.
I know, right?  Why would anyone want one of the most important characters in one of the most influential game series in history to come back?  It's so funny and dumb that people like this character even though his moveset was kinda the same as another character's that one time.

Shut up.

Did I say "get rid of Ganon"? No. I said get rid of his clonish moveset.

Oh my god people still want clones back.

This is hilarious.
Most of them clones are better than most of the new additions anyway.

Then just suggest a similar character that would both fit into the universe and would give an excuse to have the clone moveset.

Like whatever happened to Black Bull? Have him with Falcon representing F-Zero.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 11, 2013, 12:23:19 am
Sorry, but I can't take seriously a group that in one game complained about clones and in the next begged for them to come back.
i dont think that them liking ganondorf means that they also want dr mario and pichu and roy and young link back
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 11, 2013, 12:24:17 am
[avatar]http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk256/FrankieGuarini/Waluigi.png[/avatar]Yeah lump us in with that group. Find me a post in this thread where anyone here talking about Ganon complained about him being a clone. Can't find one? Then, and I'm going to be a bit less polite here because I've had enough of it now, shut the hell up. Quit putting words into our mouths and then attempting to turn it into a rebuttal because frankly you just end up sounding like an idiot wandering in circles, which might just be the damn case at this point.

Have nothing to contribute to the discussion? Kindly sit down and don't try and sap the joy out of people's discussions. If you can't deal with that rule, then go away. For real, I mean, no harm done if you just, y'know, don't assert that we said something we didn't, right? I'm going to repeat the message that you put words into our mouth until you realize that you did that, in case I'm not being obvious enough for you.

Way to rep the Brawl fanbase btw, us elite meleetards evidently don't know what we talk about either. Go figure, I enjoy Brawl too. Good thing I don't hate the Melee fanbase because of a few bad apples.

End. Of. Discussion.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on September 11, 2013, 12:27:12 am
ganondorf was different enough aesthetically (different character from a completely game series) to be considered a different character moveset aside obviously so him being included wouldnt be too much of a problem

tho some changes to his moveset to differentiate him and further deviate him from falcon would be recommended because they are the same character when it comes down to it
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on September 11, 2013, 12:29:35 am
Ganon at least has unique enough normals which is the things you will be using most in Smash.  I would like him to get a few unique traits though or at least things he does better than Falcon, which Brawl Ganon had nothing of.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 11, 2013, 12:31:26 am
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Yeah lump us in with that group. Find me a post in this thread where anyone here talking about Ganon complained about him being a clone.

Are we including myself within the search?

Quote
Quit putting words into our mouths and then attempting to turn it into a rebuttal

Alright fair enough, I did jump to conclusions, and I do apologize. I just don't see the appeal in the 'dorf being a beefed-up Falcon. He's had enough skills in his own games to warrant a little more original approach, don't you think?

Quote
Way to rep the Brawl fanbase btw, us elite meleetards evidently don't know what we talk about either.

I represent nothing of the sort. Factions are none of my concern.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 11, 2013, 12:32:04 am
Sorry, but I can't take seriously a group that in one game complained about clones and in the next begged for them to come back.

LC-DMM said:
Then just suggest a similar character that would both fit into the universe and would give an excuse to have the clone moveset.

Like whatever happened to Black Bull? Have him with Falcon representing F-Zero.
Hmm not a bad idea tbh. Since he's from F-Zero as well the movesets could fit well and he would be good at reprising Ganon's role from melee (or perhaps Blood Falcon?)

Would also allow for some freedom with making an original Ganon moveset but not completely ruining it for those who liked Ganondorf's clone moveset


I ain't fixing that mess of a quote
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 11, 2013, 12:33:26 am
More original, yes. We were just discussing new uptilts and shizzle. I like his FAir, his DAir has to stay in some way or form though, it's probably his most useful aerial move. Change up the animation a bit but it's REALLY good(full body hitbox, yus). I think his Down+B or Up+B could probably be something different, moreso Down+B because no matter how it looks, it's a Falcon Kick.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on September 11, 2013, 12:34:51 am
Down+B: shockwave pound move?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 11, 2013, 12:35:59 am
The sword itself may prove to be a deciding factor.

I mean is he using the TP sword? The OoT sword? The former looks like it could be swung at a faster rate and would have a different attack pattern than that of the latter.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 11, 2013, 12:37:01 am
Funny how the bulky Ganondorf uses the thinner sword but the thinner Ganondorf uses the bulkier one.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 11, 2013, 12:38:43 am
Yeah that is odd. Didn't Ganondorf just have the Darknut's sword in his Melee winscreen pose?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 11, 2013, 12:39:35 am
Yep that's the one.

I wish Sakurai implemented the adventure mode but actually use stuff from Nintendo and not crappy subspace mooks. Darknuts would be pretty nice to see in Smash.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 11, 2013, 12:42:43 am
would this still be twilight princess ganondorf considering
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: TTTTTsd on September 11, 2013, 12:43:24 am
it'd probably have to be. They might tweak his design to be skyward-esque, but, beyond that I have no clue. Link just has the baggy pants last I checked.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 11, 2013, 12:44:31 am
would this still be twilight princess ganondorf considering
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I'm fearing this, because he isn't in SS I'm fearing he won't be in and instead will be replaced by someone from that game.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 11, 2013, 12:46:32 am
yeah but sheik didn't go anywhere despite not being in twilight princess, i'd say he's safe.

alternatively they could just have the zelda characters be different designs from different games, like say link from skyward sword, zelda/sheik from twilight princess, ganondorf from ocarina of time. but i don't think that's happening
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 11, 2013, 12:49:33 am
I was about to bring that up but the thing is, Zelda was in TP so of course she had to be in and there was no good reason to not use Sheik as she's a fan favorite.

Hmm OoT did get released on the 3DS again so you could be on to something here, and you have a good idea there with the different games as there have been some good releases as of late (and will be some good releases later) when it comes to Zelda. Spirit Tracks, Skyward Sword, OoT remake, the LttP sequel, and the WW remake, that's 5 eras to work with.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 11, 2013, 12:50:03 am
Yes, and as I recall, there's a code for him to use it.

Wasn't much, but at the time it was pretty neat.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on September 11, 2013, 12:54:55 am
itll be ghirahim then

and people will complain and then shut the fuck up when hes awesome as fuck
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 11, 2013, 01:18:29 am
ghirahim is a goddamn jabroni compared to ganondorf
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Nero D. on September 11, 2013, 02:25:26 am
yeah

he'll probably make a sword cameo or some shit or a trophy that whose effect is to make the opponent as uncomfortable as possible
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Berry on September 11, 2013, 02:40:39 am
This game would be good with Groose.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: LC-DDM on September 11, 2013, 04:00:19 am
He could be somewhere around in the SS stage, we just need to look for him.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 11, 2013, 09:17:12 am
Grooser Groosh Groos. 4. It's all about Groose ;P

@whoeversaidaboutblackshadow
Screw Black Shadow, Deathborn's the real deal. No true villain wears fingerless gloves, and Deathborn makes Black Shadow look like a protagonist in comparison (not counting GP Legend).

@theganondiscussion
As OoT 3D is the most recent game with Ganon in, it'd be nice to use that design (though perhaps Skyward Sword it up a bit). Yes, I prefer his OoT design.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Moon Girard on September 11, 2013, 11:11:16 am
As OoT 3D is the most recent game with Ganon in, it'd be nice to use that design (though perhaps Skyward Sword it up a bit). Yes, I prefer his OoT design.

Actually it'd be WWHD if Ganon isn't in A Link Between Worlds, getting dual sword Ganon would be nice.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 11, 2013, 12:13:33 pm
But then it'd be "Toon Ganondorf", not "Ganondorf".
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 11, 2013, 02:51:45 pm
it'd just be ganondorf. since he would be the only one in the game there would be no need for a toon name to differentiate him from regular ganondorf

11/9
(http://i.imgur.com/qkluzUD.jpg)
Pic of the day. The Pyrosphere viewed from above. The Morph Ball design is also based on the one from Metroid: Other M.
ha ha other m sux
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on September 11, 2013, 02:56:36 pm
stage hazard ridley comes in and a random competitor freezes in fear

i wondered if anthony was conscious as he hit bottom
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Post by: Retro Respecter on September 11, 2013, 05:43:50 pm
I don't think that they're going to copy everything. Ridley may not even show.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Kanbei on September 12, 2013, 11:46:18 am
(http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/peach/screen-4.jpg)
Peach Confirmed.

Come at me bros  :mevil:
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Post by: MightyKombat on September 12, 2013, 11:47:02 am
Either that or Bowser stole Kousaku-Kira's Bites The Dust move
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 12, 2013, 12:26:58 pm
Bowser better have that grab.

Ah, the screenshots I've taken of that being used against Peach...
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Post by: Person Man on September 12, 2013, 01:56:51 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordbow_zps617c5aa8.png[/avatar](http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/peach/screen-3.jpg)

Is this new?  I don't recall her having a move where she uses her crown as a weapon.
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Post by: MightyKombat on September 12, 2013, 02:00:10 pm
Her forward Air move? I swore she had that in Melee and Brawl.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Blackmore on September 12, 2013, 02:47:47 pm
Yeah, she's had that since Melee IIRC.
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Post by: Duos.act on September 12, 2013, 02:49:06 pm
That's all the Mario characters, discounting the spinoff characters like Wario, Yoshi and Diddy.  I guess Sakurai is gonna show us the veterans first and go by game series because I'm okay with that.  I have a feeling Pokemon or Zelda is next.
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Post by: Saohc on September 12, 2013, 02:54:06 pm
I'm just waiting for Ness and Captain Falcon to show up.
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Post by: TRUEMicah on September 12, 2013, 03:01:03 pm
Fuck yea C. Falcon FTW.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on September 12, 2013, 03:04:38 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordwhatever.png[/avatar]
Her forward Air move? I swore she had that in Melee and Brawl.

Okay yeah, you're right.  That's what it is.  I just never noticed she used the crown in that move before.
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Post by: Titiln on September 12, 2013, 03:12:27 pm
12/9
(http://i.imgur.com/cl6X7XZ.jpg)
Pic of the day. Peach joins the battle! We've added 10 pictures of her on the website, but keep in mind that the game is still in development. Her moves may be refreshed by the time the games are released.
it's peach! (http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/peach.html) this also means that characters could be announced whenever and not necessarily tying into a game release.
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 12, 2013, 04:51:50 pm
Fuck yea C. Falcon FTW.

Correction: Fuck HYESZ!
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Post by: Sheng Long on September 12, 2013, 06:44:57 pm
I'm not surprised. I expected Peach to come up sooner or later. Cause you can't have The Mario Bros. + Bowser without the Princess Peach. ;)

Design reminds me of her Super Princess Peach appearance. Though it's hard to tell. Though she has been seen wearing different kinds of dresses depending on the game.
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Post by: Titiln on September 12, 2013, 07:12:12 pm
the dress is basically the same as brawl's
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Post by: Retro Respecter on September 13, 2013, 12:22:39 am
Hold it right...okay I see your point.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MR. IBZS II on September 13, 2013, 12:24:25 am
Isn't that what her dress already looked like?
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Post by: LC-DDM on September 13, 2013, 12:27:30 am
Well wasn't the day of the Peach reveal the same as SMB being released in one of the regions or something?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Retro Respecter on September 13, 2013, 12:31:45 am
Here's hoping for Princess Daisy...
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Duos.act on September 13, 2013, 12:46:18 am
Tab Peach over until her hair turns brown.  There's your Daisy.
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Post by: SlySuavity on September 13, 2013, 05:52:04 am
And Rosalina too, if they're particularly generous! :3
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 13, 2013, 03:58:18 pm
13/9
(http://i.imgur.com/Chl5YBz.jpg)
Pic of the day. Here comes my Mario…NOT!
that's kind of a terrible reaction to luigi considering how much he has done to help save peach. unless you're playing singleplayer, then he doesn't do shit.

that's it for next week, hopefully sakurai will reveal hideki kamiya as a playable character to help promote the release of the wonderful 101
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Post by: MightyKombat on September 13, 2013, 04:03:26 pm
eww luigi fuck that dago wop son of a bitch die sorry if youre italian
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Person Man on September 13, 2013, 04:03:54 pm
[avatar]http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Tiger_Stripe/discordorly.png[/avatar]The way that shot is framed makes it look like Luigi just got caught copping a feel.
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Post by: Titiln on September 16, 2013, 05:49:18 pm
16/9
(http://i.imgur.com/dtkvaTD.jpg)
Pic of the day. Here's the 3DS version of Captain Olimar and an upside down Link.
i guess it's interesting to note that this is apparently the first 3ds screenshot with olimar
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Post by: MR. IBZS II on September 16, 2013, 09:47:12 pm
Hah, he has the whistle in his helmet.
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Post by: MightyKombat on September 16, 2013, 09:55:52 pm
Olimar is not interested in Link's sword-balancing act.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 16, 2013, 09:58:22 pm
Olimar is not interested in Link's sword-balancing act.

Shame, because Link really looks like he wants Olimar to give at least one fuck.
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Post by: DNZRX768 on September 17, 2013, 12:27:21 am
You know, I was wondering if there are going to reveal anymore newcomers...
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Post by: TRUEMicah on September 17, 2013, 12:38:58 am
In due time.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 17, 2013, 12:39:27 am
We've got tons of time before the game is released. Hey, X and Y's not got long before release and we still don't know what the starters' final evos look like :P

In short, yes. They most certainly will.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 17, 2013, 12:47:10 am
i'm estimating the game will be out by the 2014 holiday season so yes they have a shitload of time to reveal newcomers

     Posted: September 17, 2013, 05:23:24 pm
17/9
(http://i.imgur.com/kJ8SU5K.jpg)
Pic of the day. The ladies compare their heights.
well peach looks curious
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Post by: LC-DDM on September 17, 2013, 10:12:57 pm
Sakurai's WFT Fetish CONFIRMED for SSB4.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on September 17, 2013, 10:27:43 pm
Peach is giving WFT the cyan makeover she gave to Samus' Power Suit.

also if this game gets alternate costumes for real, Metroid Fusion suit plz
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Post by: PlasmoidThunder on September 17, 2013, 11:25:41 pm
also if this game gets alternate costumes for real, Metroid Fusion suit plz

Prime Varia suit plz, maybe even Dark suit.

While we're on the subject, Galacta Knight costume for Meta Knight would be cool, providing he gets in (which he will).
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Post by: MightyKombat on September 17, 2013, 11:51:50 pm
Mario = Doctor Mario?
Luigi = Mr L
Link = Casual outfit from Skyward Sword?
Pit = Three Sacred Treasures?
Olimar = Hocotate CEO?
Samus = Fusion Suit or Prime Varia Suit?
Mega Man = Bass :)
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Post by: Duos.act on September 17, 2013, 11:59:06 pm
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130708034202/smashbroslawlorigins/images/3/35/Old-snake.jpg)
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Post by: Jmorphman on September 18, 2013, 12:06:37 am
Much as I love the Prime series's rendition of the Varia suit (and think the Other M version is crap), the Fusion suit really deserves to he in over it, in this alternate costumes hypothetical.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: MightyKombat on September 18, 2013, 12:09:07 am
Yeah. Fusion suit needs more love even ifit doesn't have big shoulders.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Retro Respecter on September 18, 2013, 04:02:16 am
i'm estimating the game will be out by the 2014 holiday season so yes they have a shitload of time to reveal newcomers

      Posted: September 17, 2013, 05:23:24 pm
17/9
(http://i.imgur.com/kJ8SU5K.jpg)
Pic of the day. The ladies compare their heights.
well peach looks curious

Does Wii Fit Trainer know that Princess toadstool/Peach is poking at her back?
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Post by: Tyrant Belial on September 18, 2013, 04:09:50 am
So Samus is the tallest by like a foot.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on September 18, 2013, 04:36:51 am
Does Wii Fit Trainer know that Princess toadstool/Peach is poking at her back?

she's enjoying it,
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Titiln on September 18, 2013, 04:54:00 pm
18/9
(http://i.imgur.com/TZQYEg7.jpg)
Pic of the day. Inside the corridor along one of the walls in Pyrosphere, a view that's really not visible in-game. You can't tell from the picture, but it's actually a gigantic open space.
this is why the miiverse sakurai blurb is important. without context you might as well think this is a screenshot showing the game's new fps mode
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Post by: MightyKombat on September 18, 2013, 04:56:50 pm
This is what you don't see in game unless you hack the game.

Neat ehh?
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Orochi Gill on September 18, 2013, 05:01:57 pm
Much as I love the Prime series's rendition of the Varia suit (and think the Other M version is crap), the Fusion suit really deserves to he in over it, in this alternate costumes hypothetical.

I'm pretty sure it was an alt in Brawl, does that work?
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Post by: LC-DDM on September 18, 2013, 05:30:19 pm
Yoshi confirmed
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
It was either this or a crappy Megaman pic on Pumpkin Hill... I like to think I made the right choice.
Title: Re: Super Smash Bros [3DS][Wii U]
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 18, 2013, 06:49:29 pm
18/9
(http://i.imgur.com/TZQYEg7.jpg)
Pic of the day. Inside the corridor along one of the walls in Pyrosphere, a view that's really not visible in-game. You can't tell from the picture, but it's actually a gigantic open space.
this is why the miiverse sakurai blurb is important. without context you might as well think this is a screenshot showing the game's new fps mode