thought toriyama said he hates dragon ball now. wtf is he doing making another one.no idea what you are talking about.
Another one? :/
You don't get what I mean it seems. I hate them making new movies because even if they are good somehow they are extremely unnecessary. Everything in Dragon Ball since the end of Cell saga is completely unnecessary actually but meh.
one of te articles (ann) said something about the worse wish, so my guess is that they are going to wish that goku becomes a kid and this will eb a dragon ball gt movie, thus making dragon ball gt canon.
People can only be wished back if they died less than a year ago.
I don't remember that rule.Thought it was bullshit too, but turns out it's right.
he comes up with a what-if-scenario in the case that limitation wasn't there and he imagines Krillin coming back as a skeleton.
Well, I just think the "ressurrected one" is a new character related to the old hakaishins.. Possibly.
Ah, there's also Shenron reviving everyone Piccolo Daimaoh killed when he blew up cities and whatnot, so damaged or decomposed bodies are definitely not an issue, even in the child saga before aliens.
there was a rule on the earth balls established you have to be revived within a years time to come back, that's why they waited just about the whole time to bring goku back the first time he died. I dunno if this carries over to the namek ones, but it does exist.It doesn't; Yamcha, Piccolo an co. are revived during different Namekian years.
I don't remember that in the manga, probably a anime only thing.
I don't remember that in the manga, probably a anime only thing.
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I don't think they'll train Frieza. Because God Beerus said he could stop Frieza himself before he slept for so long. Remember all those vilians watching SSJ3 Goku fight against Kid Buu in hell. Maybe Frieza did train after watching that and felt weak because of those intense battles he saw.
Given how silly the power creep that goes on in the series is, Frieza is so outdated I'd wager that Puar could kick Freeza's ass. I'd totally watch a Dragon Ball Z film if that happened.didnt the last movie throw the power creep out of the window?
During The Buu Saga, Frieza was dead for 10+ years. 3 years passed since the battle with Frieza when the Androides appeared. 7 more years after Cell's defeat in The Buu Saga. I still don't know if about Frieza's revival being canon or not. Wasn't it so that The Dragonballs only revive someone who died within a year there?
Given how silly the power creep that goes on in the series is, Frieza is so outdated I'd wager that Puar could kick Freeza's ass. I'd totally watch a Dragon Ball Z film if that happened.
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[11:24:37 a.m.] KoopaKoot: It's more like the move he did exceeds his power level
[11:24:59 a.m.] edgaraguilarx45h: still strong enough to kill the androids
[11:25:05 a.m.] edgaraguilarx45h: and he was abel to do a few ones in a row
[11:25:17 a.m.] edgaraguilarx45h: was he not in the initial group ?
[11:25:29 a.m.] edgaraguilarx45h: or did he pull a goku and was confident the other guys coudl handle the situation ?
I'm more inclined to think it's on purpose that they picked Freeza, and they'll come up with an explanation that will be the bulk of the whole point of the movie (a revival after more than a year, and how he'll stand up to god-level guys). We simply don't know it yet, we can have nothing more than wild speculations. The first teasers were talking about a catastrophic wish, after all, so something must be going wrong for Freeza to revive and not be ridiculously weak.Yeah, we're lacking too much information now, but that's exactly what does make speculating more interesting :D
As for the new outfit, I'm nearly convinced that Goku is the one who's been training with Bills or Wills or he found someone new related to them. There's no way he wouldn't insist on getting such an opportunity after the BoG fight, and Bills saw the Super Saiyan God level so Goku should have caught his fancy.
any ball-related limit is set by the namekian/kamisama that is in charge of the balls, so it's a very easy "retcon", just make a different namekian be in create the balls.Yeah, thought about that too that they may have upgraded their Dragon Balls again.
Kane when you're watching the anime, you can see bad guys in Hell with their bodies, so it's possible, no?
After I think I remember the rule you were talking about too.
I think It's time for me to open again my 42 books. Let's check stuff now! :D
Making this movie will take place in another universe or parallel dimension, and not cross over into the one we're all familiar with would be stupid and potentially destroy a ton of the canon that's been established if they didn't form the story properly.
Most Dragonball Z Movies are just side stories, uncannon. This could be a uncannon Story.No.
All of those moviews being made by toryama directly are canon, they are more canon than gt or anything of the like.
Toryama was also the designer for many of the movies so I wouldnt be surprised if he brought anyone from them back.
to clarify, this means:
=> son goku and his friends anniversary episode : Where the gang takes turns pulling turnips and fighting avocado
=> Battle of the gods: Where the gang realizes that power levels are bullshit
=> New freeza movie: where the gang fisticuffs with God freeza
are canon and happen either in place of the original ending or before it.
Mr. Popo's shown to be in a league of his own immediately after Goku defeats King Piccolo. If Popo > Goku and Goku > King Piccolo, then the logical conclusion is...
Wow....so your telling me that whole time during Dragonball, Mr.Po Po was way stronger than King Piccolo, WOW LOL I didnt even know that lol
And then he does it again, even if in filler, with Goten and Kid Trunks in their super saiyan forms.
They didn't want to introduce ssj in a movieMore specifically, I think they didn't know what it would be, IINM it was kept secret until it came out in the manga.
Broly came after Trunks USSJ, thats why I say that Broly is some sort of potala fusion of Broly and Trunks.
Maybe that False SSJ transformation was some sort of a test form that made them come up with the real SSJ design.The guys making the movies and the anime didn't come up with the SSJ design. Akira Toriyama did. Since the Slug movie came out before the SSJ design was revealed, it's very likely they simply didn't know what it would be when they made the Slug movie, so they just did that.
most things are fan terms.
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/False_Super_Saiyan
I still like the episode where Piccolo and Goku had to take their driving licence. :P
PS: MUTEN ROSHI/KAME SENNIN IS BACK B**CHES =DNot only that, he's gonna do some fighting with his muscle form and a Kamehameha, he won't just stand on the side and tell everyone to go attack the literal god of destruction :P
And Gohan goes SSJ...again.Seriously, they did it last time, it was pointed out, and they fixed it. How come they're doing it again ? Did Toriyama actually decide that he wanted it to go back over it, or are they really just not paying attention ? Maybe they wanted to show Gohan's new haircut and still have him transform to his old style. but at this point I'd really prefer to just see the "Future Gohan" version from Future Trunks' timeline.
the guy has 3 already ffs, did he need another one :/Coola had one more form than him so he couldn't possibly be taken seriously if he didn't surpass that.
Also I have no problem with another transformation for him, I just find it funny that akira basically negated all of goku's other forms past ssj only for the others to give frieza another one.Yeah, that's what I meant by "further evolution, maybe new transformation but not necessarily". Depends on what they'll want to emphasize, much like how we were talking about Kaiohken, he could get a new appearance without counting it like his other transformations.
Didn't Gohan still go SSJ while they formed the circle to make Goku SSG?PS: MUTEN ROSHI/KAME SENNIN IS BACK B**CHES =DNot only that, he's gonna do some fighting with his muscle form and a Kamehameha, he won't just stand on the side and tell everyone to go attack the literal god of destruction :PAnd Gohan goes SSJ...again.Seriously, they did it last time, it was pointed out, and they fixed it. How come they're doing it again ? Did Toriyama actually decide that he wanted it to go back over it, or are they really just not paying attention ? Maybe they wanted to show Gohan's new haircut and still have him transform to his old style. but at this point I'd really prefer to just see the "Future Gohan" version from Future Trunks' timeline.
Oh, of course Freeza says he's got a "further evolution" - presumably a new transformation (not necessarily the same thing).
And what happened to Vegeta being a central part of the story this time around ? Is he just gonna get mad, get beaten, then stand on the side and wonder why people keep getting stronger than him ?
So far Frieza never real had a transformation, all he has are 3 forms that reduce his power level. This will be his first true transformation.
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The main thing i always complained about DBZ is how it was to much Goku centeredToriyama tried several times to have Gohan then the kids take the spotlight, fans never let him. Now he can do what he wants.
Gohan beat Cell so, I was not expecting him to beat Buu. It would be good if each saga had different heroes. So I guess Gotenks could be the one beating Buu there.Well I think if Toriyama wanted that who knows If GT was canon then..... Well Lets see How they do for Frieza here And I want to see his interaction with Chibi Trunks here
Gohan in Green and his new haircut makes him resemble Yusuke from Yu Yu Hakusho a little.