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M.U.G.E.N Central => Your Releases, older Mugen => Topic started by: Sennou-Room on September 16, 2014, 03:44:11 pm
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Pots Style Hisui Updated...
(http://blog-imgs-68.fc2.com/s/e/n/sennouroom/mugen004.png)
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http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/hisui-sennouroom-republished-and-updated-162636.0.html
By the way, "Mech Hisui 404" is a future work in progress. But I do not know it or finished...
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Pretty cool and you have more stuff on work
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Nice to see Hisui getting an update, but I'm also excited to see your version of Mech Hisui. :D
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Good to know you're here to stay, Sennou. Can't wait to see what you have next.
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I'm sorry everyone.
Since the deletion request had come in person than Ecole, I was stopped the release of all data.
I can not production activities related to mugen the future.
A please acknowledge. Good Bye...
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Wait...what?
Please tell me you're joking.
Because that request was already...I dunno...1 year old already?
I am 99% sure that you are allowed to make that Hisui of yours as long as you do not charge money for that.
Just some couraging words for you.
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Trin's got a point.
It should be 100% LEGAL to do her considering you are not making a profit from her or any other mugen works.
In short: YOUR FINE. Nowadays, something like a legal notice is considered bullshitty anyways because of people abusing the said right.
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idk, Japan doesn't fuck around when it comes to copy-right violations.
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Nowadays, something like a legal notice is considered bullshitty anyways because of people abusing the said right.
this is 100% not true at all
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Mail from MediaFire, mail from the blog management, both of these have come It is true.
I do not know whether that has been requested from the company really, but am I left as this is the bad it is for sure.
I'm really sorry...
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dude cmon your better than this.
when in doubt, try a different link.
Its alright. keep fighting. Besides, Mediafire never mails me for shit anyway.
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please dont pressure him into doing things he doesnt want.
i would take a legal notice seriously.
sennou-room, we respect your decision, im sad you wont be attempting to create any more characters. i hope you restart at one point and put your efforts towards other chars.
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actually Mediafire DOES do bullshit copyrights alot I dealt with them myself. I called them on the phone and cleared it up got my strikes removed and everything after explaining what mugen was. I can't say anything on the blogs though. Ume alot of Legal notices ARE BS when it comes to mugen. Rice got a bs one about tohou or something and actually was afraid to continue but look he is now and nothing is happening. PLUS think about how many Hisui's are out there ALOT and still being made but those people don't receive legal notices. Sennou if you do not want to continue thats up to you but I am telling you this is probably BS sorry Ume.
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I'm sorry everyone.
Since the deletion request had come in person than Ecole, I was stopped the release of all data.
I can not production activities related to mugen the future.
A please acknowledge. Good Bye...
what about using passwords and encrypted filenames for your files? (something like $/(@qzT<168)@jqwTE3%xWQL&rVfd% for example ?) just a suggestion of course, no disrespect. it would really be a shame if you would quit :-\
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All of these character in pots style would´ve been amazing. On the other hang, you could make more characters pots style and you´ll be able to send me and I´ll upload them everyone into my server. that´s could be a solution. I don´t live in Japan
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He's Japanese, at least the flag says, anyway they're are plenty of creators from Japan and most of them are still active. 9 is making mb characters for this day and had no problems with it. Maybe you became a victim of some kind of hoax.
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Maybe Ecole isn't fond of POTS STYLE.
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I don´t live in china.
Neither does he, he is Japanese. --;
I understand how he feels, the same thing happened to me when I ripped some voices from some games.
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actually Mediafire DOES do bullshit copyrights alot I dealt with them myself. I called them on the phone and cleared it up got my strikes removed and everything after explaining what mugen was. I can't say anything on the blogs though. Ume alot of Legal notices ARE BS when it comes to mugen. Rice got a bs one about tohou or something and actually was afraid to continue but look he is now and nothing is happening. PLUS think about how many Hisui's are out there ALOT and still being made but those people don't receive legal notices. Sennou if you do not want to continue thats up to you but I am telling you this is probably BS sorry Ume.
no matter how trivial a legal notice for takedown is, they are always within rights to pursue it. which means even if its an infinitesimal chance they pursue it there is still a chance they can pursue it. it is not bullshit, people who say this are entirely ignorant and say it at their own peril. that copyright notice for downloading an album or track is only bullshit till they actually pursue it and you get fucked. there's always a chance, because this isnt just a game. its a real life request from a real life company. he's being smart and backing off. please don't spread such a toxic ignorant opinion.
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the thing alot of them are not the actual company at all. The system to submit a copyright right now is so messed up anyone can do it and say they are the company in question when they obviously aren't. I am not spreading an opinion I am spreading a fact on how sites copyright systems are. Youtube, mediafire, 4shared etc. It is a FACT not opinion they do not bother to check if the person submitting a claim is the actual company or not. Sometimes they do like with the smash bros takedown videos that was obviously nintendo. Most Companys do not bother with mugen Ume. French Bread (aka the company who makes melty blood) Have not done anything to people who make MB chars if this were a common thing for them to do I would say yeah ok but it's not. Explain to me why they would target just him and not the literally hundreds other creators of Melty blood characters and Edits? Do not call what I am saying toxic as I know from experience how many times on various sites I have had "copyright claims" and it's been untrue. If it was actually the company wouldn't they go after EVERYONE using their content? Makes more sense doesn't it?
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yes your opinion is toxic, insofar as you would dismiss the idea of intellectual property as bullshit lol, but thats another story.
i go through this a lot with people who think most takedown notices are hot air cause they are not enforced, which is true. a lot of this stuff isnt worth the time and effort to physically remove off the internet. but thats not wht i am arguing. i am defending his decision as the right thing to do. its not a worthy crusade to fight against ecole over this. in fact they prob dont care enough to do shit, but the fact they did hand out the deletion request through mediafire which legally requires valid notification that you are the copyright holder/authorized to act on their behalf. (can be found at https://www.mediafire.com/policy_violation/copyright.php, please do your research, not just "anybody" can submit these claims. and im not sure how it could be considered a bogus claim in that he prob didnt get permission to use their art.) is enough to tell you theyre aware of the content and thats a red flag to most people.
You don't understand the reality and seriousness of intellectual property law. It is their copyrighted property. They are within rights to use whatever they want to enforce it. Whether they should be doing this is another issue, it leads to a lot of grey area and arguments about censorship. However, it doesnt matter if they did it, mf did it or if they even care. It doesnt matter if other people didnt get targeted for it. The fact remains they have the right to pursue it if someone uses it without permission. If you are person who respects the idea of copyright and intellectual property, and the severity it can entail, it doesnt matter. Because its not bullshit. No matter what your random weird ideas of bullshit are, it crumbles before the actual fine print and the law lol.
I understand your passion, but what you are saying would not matter if the company were to pursue it. He's free to do what he wants here, but I am in total support of his decision as someone with a respect for the consequences that could arise were they to pursue it. You are complaining that somebody isnt taking a gamble that could mean some harsh consequences, because of circumstantial evidence that isnt even validated or proven.
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So sad to see that. But oh well, it's your choice anyways.
I mean, unless the company says so, you can do whatever you want in MUGEN (with some exceptions iirc) as it is considered "fan art" or something like that. As long as you're not earning anything on your characters, it should be OK.
If your problem is Mediafire or so, then I recommend hosting it somewhere else.
You may want to consider about leaving MUGEN.
But if in the end you still don't want to do it, then that's cool with me and should be so with everybody else.
前向きで いる ね~。
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yes I agree with Amy on this.
If its your choice I won't stop you. I do suggest using something like 4shared or other file types.
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I am not complaining I am simply explaining how this is viewed to me. I do not believe that mediafire thing cause when I got my take down stuff I called them and they reviewed their info and there was no proof of anything so someone was able to get through without it being legit. I know how the law works if the company actually wants it down it will go down if you fight it and its the actual company you could get in trouble but they will have to fully verify who they are. It is always good to question these and not just accept them to get the full details like. "Is this the actual company?" "why are they targetting me?" etc. If it was the actual company you better believe they would target everyone who is doing this and not just this guy. I do not see how you think this can be irrelevant when it makes no sense to just go after one guy? I mean why would they do that? They would target all of us who are creating content out of their work not just him. This is why I believe its false.
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Well, to be fair, Laharl: Ecole already targetted multiple Mugenites in Japan because of their content.
I could understand it back then, because Under Night In-Birth was still fresh back then, but I'm suprised that Ecole actually did not stopped the targetting.
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Yes Under night in birth is something they seem to care about currently.
MB is not as far as I know.
I retract my previous statement it seems They are just NOW deciding to go after people out of nowhere after all this time. -_- in fact I retract my argument with ume as well. It is true sites have been going down that had that content. This is shitty.
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This is what happens when a company goes completely awol and decides to strike fear down peoples throats by playing top dog, and abusing any and all legal copyright means to maintain dominance.
Does Ecole/French Bread realize that what they are doing will never help them achieve anything at all besides making them look like complete greedy douchebags?
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First time I've seen a company so active in shutting MUGEN things down. What puzzles me more about this is why the hell has Ecole taken so long to do this when the could've done it since Drowin's Kouma, which was like... what, over 8 years ago? ww
I think the main issue is how this came out of nowhere.
Does Ecole/French Bread realize that what they are doing will never help them achieve anything at all besides making them look like complete greedy douchebags?
I don't think Furapan has a say in the matter as those aren't exactly their games. In a developer standpoint, yes, but at the core they are still a doujin soft circle. In a legal standpoint, no. So even if they were against this, nothing would happen unless legal ties were broken.
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Aren't you being somewhat selfish guys, ecole are being a dicks but advising him to ignore their warning is somewhat stupid, what you want to make him Mugen martyr, I don't want him to be so kind of internet jesus of fighting game, my thought would be to quit doing melty blood characters but why quit altogether, there are plenty of interesting characters to be converted into pots style, perhaps you could go in this direction, mb is not the only game out there. If you can have fun with Mugen, create so cool content and let us enjoy it so too, just stay safe mate!
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Aren't you being somewhat selfish guys, ecole are being a dicks but advising him to ignore their warning is somewhat stupid, what you want to make him Mugen martyr, I don't want him to be so kind of internet jesus of fighting game, my thought would be to quit doing melty blood characters but why quit altogether, there are plenty of interesting characters to be converted into pots style, perhaps you could go in this direction, mb is not the only game out there. If you can have fun with Mugen, create so cool content and let us enjoy it so too, just stay safe mate!
props, good to see some common sense.
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my thought would be to quit doing melty blood characters but why quit altogether
Maybe he's not interested in converting other characters. I don't get what's so unreasonable about that, but that's just me.
Anyway, hopefully Ecole loosens up because I'm not seeing any real beneficial motive in doing this. I don't see what they possibly have to gain by suddenly removing one of the few gaming outlets they have.
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I agree Niitris.
Sennou I really hope you are reading this. It doesn't matter if mediafire goes. Hell just use skydrive. 9 did it, his site went down, but all of his works are still alive.
If he can do it so can you.
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Sennou Dont be down and afraid.
Man up, take action, make an outlook account and just use skydrive. They will not target it.
you can still do your blogs, just go to a different blog site and go from there.
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Guys, if Sennou wants to quit, let him quit. He's got his reasons, and Ecole's being a bit wonky, yeah, but seriously, just let this take its course. There will always be others converting characters into this style; it's not like Sennou was the last great hope of PotS. :-\
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Sennou Dont be down and afraid.
Man up, take action, make an outlook account and just use skydrive. They will not target it.
you can still do your blogs, just go to a different blog site and go from there.
can you stop it
youre obviously pressuring him
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Flow, you may have agreed with me and all but there's something I don't agree with.
And that is you're possibly pressuring him to come back to MUGEN.
Although I might have said it's sad for him to go, and have told him about other uploading servers I also stated that if he still doesn't want to come back then it is fine with me and SHOULD be so with everybody else here.
Let's have a bit of common sense here and understand what he's going through, if he doesn't want it then stop trying to make it happen, it's not going to happen. Finito.
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Sorry..
I was just trying to give him some encouragement. I understand if he doesn't want to do this anymore. I'll stop.
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Sorry..
I was just trying to give him some encouragement. I understand if he doesn't want to do this anymore. I'll stop.
Know how you feel, but you cannot force an author to come back if he doesn't want to deal with problems like this.
Sennou is free to choose to leave if he sees it fitting, we cannot force him to comeback if he doesn't want to (same with 9 if that was the case, though in part I'll be a bit sad, since I wanted to see Sion, White Len and V. Akiha on MBAAACC mode).
All we can wait is to let this situation fade out by itself (as far as I know, there was a similar situation like this in Japan with another company that I don't recall currently, but they let it die with the time, takes weeks or months for this to happen, though).
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I understand.
Lets hope time is kind to the community. I too would like to see 9's MBAACC versions of Sion, W.Len and Akiha V, hell I'd be surprised if he did CIEL (The one character he HATES. Seriously who would hate Good ol. India?)
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I was just trying to give him some encouragement. I understand if he doesn't want to do this anymore. I'll stop.
it was worth the try tho :gugoi:
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Well, everyone.
Results showed the people of other mail from Ecole that arrived to me, it was determined too suspicious or there is a typographical error, one company has been using yahoo mail to its wording.
Re-publish the Hisui_SE conviction when I got to be a someone who was pretending to Ecole mail that arrives to me.
Now, since we have addressed in my country, everyone of MFG Please do not contact the Ecole.
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So basically someone was trolling.
Well, at least we had a decently nice discussion about it. Some people need to seriously reconsider what's actually funny (as if I'm someone to talk).
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I had a feeling this was the case. It made no sense to target MB creations and edits. Nothing to gain.
Back to UNIB.
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The timing sure was suspicious, especially with other MB authors like 9 having their sites going offline.
Sennou-Room, I just hope that this incident was just someone pretending to be Ecole like you say it is, and that we didn't inadvertently convince you it was fake just because certain people here kept pressuring you.
Nevertheless, welcome back.
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So overall everything is A-OK right?
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An only possibility is high, it is wait and see now.
I will republish the character data Depending on the results.
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so I was right? I looked into it further and seems the others that went down are returning as well on new hosts. Whoever did this was really determined even had me fooled. ANYWAY good to have you back sennou.
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I'm glad that this is all over, which I'm hoping it is. That means that you'll be able to finish Mech Hisui after all. :D
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Ok, so, it was someone trolling. Good lord. At least, I'm glad to know this was just trolling and nothing more serious. Now, welcome back, Sennou.
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Ok, so, it was someone trolling. Good lord. At least, I'm glad to know this was just trolling and nothing more serious. Now, welcome back, Sennou.
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I thought you were Serious to quit and Now you comeback lolwat anyways Each one has different Mind.
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Just to update you (the post from above), the reason why he thought about "quitting" is because of that email from a what's supposed to be from Ecole. But as of now, Sennou noticed typos in the letter, along with the "company" using yahoo; deeming it to be a fake/poor attempt of a troll.
But anyways, welcome back Sennou.
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Now lets hope 9 and them get back in gear. That would mean that the blogs and whatnot can come back as well.
*pats sennou's back* Welcome back Sennou :)
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Welcome back Sennou!! & glad it was all Bullshit!
Looking forward to more creations from you.
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Everyone...
I've re-published the Hisui.
Please re-download because I was also minor modifications.
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/hisui-sennouroom-republished-and-updated-162636.0.html
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Everyone...
I've re-published the Hisui.
Please re-download because I was also minor modifications.
Download↓
Nothing...
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He fixed his post, check again and you can find a link to his new topic.
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Don`t see an DL here?Can you re-post again?
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Is it that difficult to go here? http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2023141