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Title: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 08, 2014, 04:49:02 am
This is where ill post if i make some sprites i like

Lets start off with
GUILE
(http://i.imgur.com/rv21qW0.png)
LEFT: Original (SVC MOTM) RIGHT: Revamp (king of pocket)
and...

OROCHI IORI
(http://i.imgur.com/PEldr4E.png)
LEFT: Original (SVC MOTM) RIGHT: Revamp (king of pocket)
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 18, 2014, 05:34:32 am
Made some new sprites today
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/351/4/7/sonic_sprite_by_likiji123-d8a8kkd.png)
Sonic (inspired by project x zone)

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/285/c/7/majin_vegeta_z2_portrait_v2_by_likiji123-d82irgb.png)
Majin Vegeta z2 portrait
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: MotorRoach on December 18, 2014, 05:57:19 am
Sonic seems to be lacking pupils... and a nose.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 18, 2014, 07:57:24 am
MotorRoach said, December 18, 2014, 05:57:19 am
Sonic seems to be lacking pupils... and a nose.
Fixed
(http://i.imgur.com/smeSJtn.png)
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: MotorRoach on December 18, 2014, 04:38:06 pm
He's looking better now. Now the thing that bothers me the most is that his eyes are incredibly overshaded. The way you shaded it makes it look like he has eyes made out of glass or plastic, because they don't really look like normal eyes, it almost feels as if Sonic is a robot in there. I would suggest to leave his eye mostly white, and just add a bit of anti aliasing for the shading. You might also want to give him a little smile, since Sonic is one character to nearly always have that.

I also noticed his body seems to be very bright, in a way it seems to lack shading. Not to mention his middle spine on the head seems to have a weird lack of depth, as the it feels quite flat, so I recommend shading the middle and top spines a bit more. The placement for the brightest blue shade in the head also makes his head look oddly bright, in a plastic looking way, so I personally think it would be better without it. What also bothers me is the shape of his shoe, because it just... suddenly curves up out of nowhere. That and the white/gray shading for the sprite seem to be lacking a bit of contrast, and same goes for the red colors.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 18, 2014, 11:16:39 pm
Fixed?
(http://i.imgur.com/rC8wfMK.png)
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: MotorRoach on December 18, 2014, 11:21:44 pm
Somewhat fixed. His eye still feels pillow shaded, and there still seems to be a lack of depth on the two top spines. I also see that the outlining on the top left of his head is oddly thick, which is pretty much a problem, and the same goes to other parts of the sprite. It's as if part of the sprite was dragged or something.

If you want, feel free to use this Sonic animation I made last year as reference for some of the shading (since you seem to have gotten the shape of the sprite pretty nicely already):

(http://i48.tinypic.com/33yngnq.gif)
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 19, 2014, 02:15:05 am
MotorRoach said, December 18, 2014, 11:21:44 pm
Somewhat fixed. His eye still feels pillow shaded, and there still seems to be a lack of depth on the two top spines. I also see that the outlining on the top left of his head is oddly thick, which is pretty much a problem, and the same goes to other parts of the sprite. It's as if part of the sprite was dragged or something.
Im fairly new at shading can you help me with how it works
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: Alex Sinigaglia on December 26, 2014, 12:42:08 am
Try to work with flats + outlines, then shade from there. Keep the shading as simple as possible.
For how I see it you rescaled a render and coloured on top of it.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 26, 2014, 09:17:46 am
Alex Sinigaglia said, December 26, 2014, 12:42:08 am
Try to work with flats + outlines, then shade from there. Keep the shading as simple as possible.
For how I see it you rescaled a render and coloured on top of it.
More like i copied an image....
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/194/c/8/sonic_in_project_x_zone_by_kaijinthehedgehog-d574xpy.jpg)
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: MotorRoach on December 27, 2014, 12:34:45 am
Copied or not, the sprite in the picture itself isn't much of good to begin with. It's simply just a fanmade sprite that has part of the same problems as I said before.

Still, you should follow Alex's advice, if you want to get better at it.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: RamzaNeko on December 27, 2014, 01:24:23 am
Sonic is on pjt x zone? On spriters resourse theres all sprites from the game already, u could download his sheet for a better comparison
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: Umezono on December 27, 2014, 01:26:43 am
he's not. the image is fake.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: Black Hatter on December 27, 2014, 01:55:16 am
RamzaNeko said, December 27, 2014, 01:24:23 am
Sonic is on project x zone? On spriters resourse theres all sprites from the game already, u could download his sheet for a better comparison

Umezono said, December 27, 2014, 01:26:43 am
he's not. the image is fake.

Funny thing about this is that I was dumb enough in the past to actually believe this when I saw that image about a year probably before PXZ came out (don't remember when I saw this image, so I'm throwing guesses).

For advice on spriting, take a look at these tutorials (since you said that "you're fairly new at shading", I thought these might help; not sure if you looked at them, though):
http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/a-basic-sprite-tutorial/ (http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/a-basic-sprite-tutorial/)
http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/line-weight-thickness-in-sprites/ (http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/line-weight-thickness-in-sprites/)

Also, if you're aiming for a PXZ styled sprite, I suggest looking at PXZ sprites on the Spriters Resource or the sprites of its predecessor, Namco x Capcom (like what Ramza said). Look at the dA galleries of other pixel artists and see their attempts. This is kinda how I learned to shade sprites.

Good luck, and I hope I've been helpful.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 27, 2014, 03:38:53 am
Black Hatter said, December 27, 2014, 01:55:16 am
For advice on spriting, take a look at these tutorials (since you said that "you're fairly new at shading", I thought these might help; not sure if you looked at them, though):
http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/a-basic-sprite-tutorial/ (http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/a-basic-sprite-tutorial/)
http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/line-weight-thickness-in-sprites/ (http://2dwillneverdie.com/tutorial/line-weight-thickness-in-sprites/)

Good luck, and I hope I've been helpful.
Thank you for the help but the tutorial is focused on photoshop, which i dont have
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: RamzaNeko on December 27, 2014, 05:11:37 pm
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/361/c/d/insanic_by_ramzaneko-d8bfi5u.png)

another shading
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/361/2/d/bkp2_by_ramzaneko-d8bg77p.png)

should be something like this, clean lines, clean shading
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 28, 2014, 01:00:58 am
RamzaNeko said, December 27, 2014, 05:11:37 pm
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/361/c/d/insanic_by_ramzaneko-d8bfi5u.png)
should be something like this, clean lines, clean shading
:shocked2:
Wow that looks really good
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 28, 2014, 01:32:11 am
I edited my sprite and used some of the assets of razama's sprite like colour and his shoes
(http://i.imgur.com/ZxyWOXs.png)
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: Alex Sinigaglia on December 28, 2014, 01:45:53 am
More like you edited RamzaNeko's sprite.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: MotorRoach on December 28, 2014, 01:54:23 am
And ruined the eye. Again.

Really, stop shading eyes like that, it looks horrible.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 28, 2014, 04:43:26 am
MotorRoach said, December 28, 2014, 01:54:23 am
And ruined the eye. Again.

Really, stop shading eyes like that, it looks horrible.

Fixed the eye issue
(http://i.imgur.com/suunAqo.png)

Alex Sinigaglia said, December 28, 2014, 01:45:53 am
More like you edited RamzaNeko's sprite.

As i said before i used some assets of razama's sprite to change mine
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: Alex Sinigaglia on December 28, 2014, 10:45:48 am
It's RamzaNeko, not razama.

Also it's obvious you took RamzaNeko sprite and edited it a little bit, just compare them! Copy and paste one on top of the other: they're the same except for some pixels and the tufts!
What did you "copy"? The face (eyes+mouth+nose), the body, the hands, the ears, you moved the tufts and the right eye (our left) and just for the sake of it you changed the shading a bit, you outlined the right leg (our left) with a darker colour (you forgot one pixel!)... and you continue to tell me you just "took some assets"?
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 28, 2014, 12:48:40 pm
Alex Sinigaglia said, December 28, 2014, 10:45:48 am
It's RamzaNeko, not razama.

Also it's obvious you took RamzaNeko sprite and edited it a little bit, just compare them! Copy and paste one on top of the other: they're the same except for some pixels and the tufts!
What did you "copy"? The face (eyes+mouth+nose), the body, the hands, the ears, you moved the tufts and the right eye (our left) and just for the sake of it you changed the shading a bit, you outlined the right leg (our left) with a darker colour (you forgot one pixel!)... and you continue to tell me you just "took some assets"?
(http://i.imgur.com/RVRO9V4.png)

I am sorry about the misspelling your name Ramza
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: Alex Sinigaglia on December 28, 2014, 01:22:07 pm
Make another sprite, let's see if you really improved.
Being angry doesn't help anyone. Also, if we have to say the truth it's been 4 months since you started (exactly when you registered). Now I'm not saying that to tell you that you didn't improve. Just don't say it was only "a couple of weeks ago" when you know it's not right.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: RamzaNeko on December 28, 2014, 03:20:26 pm
I think thats enough of Sonic, try another thing

Well never give up, I was just like you 3 years ago : p

If you want to persist on sonic, take a look on some points
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: MotorRoach on December 28, 2014, 07:57:47 pm
What the shit, nobody told you that you can't use Ramza's sprite. The problem is that you claimed that you only took parts of Ramza's sprite, when you took the whole sprite and just edited it. Stop trying to sound smart through ranting, it makes me want to cringe.
Title: Re: Likiji123's Sprites
Post by: likiji123 on December 28, 2014, 10:00:16 pm
i decided to stop sonic and do this instead
(http://i.imgur.com/mDpEvLN.png)