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Title: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 19, 2014, 06:27:24 pm
Hey everyone!

This is a 'patch' for the Cammy char by chuchoryu and Varo_Hades, using the char base from POTS (phantom of the server), so all credit goes to them.

(http://i.imgur.com/ZxEojez.png)

I'm not a spriter, nor a coder, nor a creator. All I did was to edit this char to my liking.

What I did: (by 12/19/2014)
-Edited the new stand animation, now it includes eyes 'blinking' and abs details. Head was edited using other sprites from the same char.
-Edited the crouch animation, now also includes eyes blinking.
-Edited some intro and 'win' animations (Added 'abs').
-Fixed some intro and 'win' animations, including the ones when defeating Dhalsim, and facing Vega(Claw) and Bison(Dictator).
-Addded some Victory Quotes.
-Added a SF2 Ending made by me, using sprites from this char(for Arcade Mode). It includes sound.

There might be other sprites that also need some small edits. I will work with them along the way as I find them (and have time to do so).

Chuchoryu might have an updated Cammy soon to be released, so when that comes, you may discard this patch.

It's the first time I edit a character like this, so I learned a lot along the way.

Any feedback (good or bad) and advice will be appreciated.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/ndb4rt (https://www.sendspace.com/file/ndb4rt)
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Flowrellik on December 19, 2014, 06:40:01 pm
I just hope that a patch can be made for her Frankensteiner. Seriously, Hooligan Roll and Frankensteiner are inverted and I have no idea of fixing this.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: varo_hades on December 20, 2014, 08:00:12 am
Looks nice the update :thumbsup:, and don't worry if Chucho makes another update because could be in much time, and I can comment him about your patch for including in the next update, only hope that he can update the sprites of her boots or if someone can do would be perfect :D
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 20, 2014, 02:10:47 pm
Looks nice the update :thumbsup:, and don't worry if Chucho makes another update because could be in much time, and I can comment him about your patch for including in the next update, only hope that he can update the sprites of her boots or if someone can do would be perfect :D

Thanks! And about the boots? Yeah, been thinking of that. Once I finish with some other edits, I will start on them. Just to see how it goes.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: yaret on December 20, 2014, 03:49:35 pm
I replaced the files but it  gives me this
(http://i.imgur.com/cjQmCZ1.jpg)
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: YC on December 20, 2014, 03:52:14 pm
Which Cammy did you use? It's Cammy Delta Red that Chucho made.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: LeoPort91 on December 20, 2014, 04:34:15 pm
Thanks for sharing :D
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: yaret on December 20, 2014, 04:45:20 pm
Which Cammy did you use? It's Cammy Delta Red that Chucho made.

Cammy by  Chucho
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: 【 HadeS 】 on December 20, 2014, 05:04:24 pm
If you look closer it has a new .DEF file and it's "CammySF2". So you have to change that in your roster.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: MotorRoach on December 20, 2014, 05:46:49 pm
This patch certainly improves quite a bunch in Cammy's visuals. Just his stance is already a huge change for the best, in my opinion~

The only remaining thing that bothers me about Chucho's Cammy sprites is how the boots and beret have a completely red palette, yet her gloves or whatever you call them still share colors with the skin shades. In my opinion, that feels very inconsistent his default palette, and some others too. That and her arms and face feels very pillow shaded in her running animation. Another problem I remember, although not exactly related to the sprites, is that she is simply invisible in her intro against Chun-Li.

Still, your patch is something I really enjoy to have, and actually made me want to keep Chucho's Cammy in my roster~ I'll only be looking for a better lifebar icon for her, although I can't really remember anyone who might've done it.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: 【 HadeS 】 on December 20, 2014, 06:36:14 pm
Since you mentioned it. I've edited time ago the small portrait from PotS' Cammy and I've made one hours ago and I was going to show them later. So...

Cammy by varo_hades & chuchoryu + edit/fix patch by Tiger-Boy (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/editfix-patch-chuchoryuvarohadess-sf4-cammy-163984.0.html): (http://i.imgur.com/vvH6cDn.png)
Download here (http://www.mediafire.com/download/r1w1w1v4c1awrbp/)
Cammy by varo_hades & chuchoryu + edit/fix patch by Tiger-Boy (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/editfix-patch-chuchoryuvarohadess-sf4-cammy-163984.0.html): (http://i.imgur.com/RqG000o.png)
Download here (http://www.mediafire.com/download/zcovzb1jmc9tktu/)
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 20, 2014, 07:24:53 pm
Since you mentioned it. I've edited time ago the small portrait from PotS' Cammy and I've made one hours ago and I was going to show them later. So...

Cammy by varo_hades & chuchoryu + edit/fix patch by Tiger-Boy (http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/editfix-patch-chuchoryuvarohadess-sf4-cammy-163984.0.html): (http://i.imgur.com/RqG000o.png)
Download here (http://hhttp://www.mediafire.com/download/zcovzb1jmc9tktu/)

I'm Sooo using that one! Thanks Hades!
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Black Hatter on December 20, 2014, 07:26:56 pm
I so feel like doing a CvS conversion of this. Adding this to my lit of things I wanna do! :)
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: yaret on December 20, 2014, 07:27:49 pm
If you look closer it has a new .DEF file and it's "CammySF2". So you have to change that in your roster.

I tried before but no worked it still without colors like the picture. for some reason the new Sprite.sff doesn't want to work.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: 【 HadeS 】 on December 20, 2014, 07:31:22 pm
Redownload the char and then patch it again. I don't know :(
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 20, 2014, 07:45:20 pm
If you look closer it has a new .DEF file and it's "CammySF2". So you have to change that in your roster.

I tried before but no worked it still without colors like the picture. for some reason the new Sprite.sff doesn't want to work.

Redownload the char and then patch it again. I don't know :(

Try what Hades advised. If you still have a problem, let me know.

I so feel like doing a CvS conversion of this. Adding this to my lit of things I wanna do! :)

I've seen some gifs at DevianArt for a proper CvS Cammy (Delta Red, not Bison's Doll). Intros, Stands and wins.
So yeah! That would be a dream come true, Black Hatter.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Flowrellik on December 20, 2014, 07:51:16 pm
I wouldn't mind seeing a CVS sprite Version of Cammy, be it Delta Red or Killer Bee.
but yeah there is still the problem with her Frankensteiner and Hooligan roll to Frankensteiner.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: yaret on December 20, 2014, 08:01:27 pm
The same, well the first problem is: error with command.cmd, fixed
The second problem is error loading her palettes, fixed
The third problem is
(http://i.imgur.com/cjQmCZ1.jpg)

Any idea?
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: 【 HadeS 】 on December 20, 2014, 08:06:08 pm
Since you're using that lifebar by Tatsu, maybe you're messing up the palettes. I think you'll have to ask for help in the proper thread/subforum instead of this one.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: yaret on December 20, 2014, 08:50:44 pm
Since you're using that lifebar by Tatsu, maybe you're messing up the palettes. I think you'll have to ask for help in the proper thread/subforum instead of this one.

I haven't patched her. Could you be able to load her in mega the full char to try her out?. :)
--------
Thanks hades. now it works
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: 【 HadeS 】 on December 20, 2014, 08:59:45 pm
Check your PMs, Yaret.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 21, 2014, 12:04:01 am
This patch certainly improves quite a bunch in Cammy's visuals. Just his stance is already a huge change for the best, in my opinion~

The only remaining thing that bothers me about Chucho's Cammy sprites is how the boots and beret have a completely red palette, yet her gloves or whatever you call them still share colors with the skin shades. In my opinion, that feels very inconsistent his default palette, and some others too. That and her arms and face feels very pillow shaded in her running animation. Another problem I remember, although not exactly related to the sprites, is that she is simply invisible in her intro against Chun-Li.

Still, your patch is something I really enjoy to have, and actually made me want to keep Chucho's Cammy in my roster~ I'll only be looking for a better lifebar icon for her, although I can't really remember anyone who might've done it.

Yes, the gloves and boots share colors. I was thinking on editing that when I start working on her military boots. Might require a lesson in palette separation, though. (That's why I'm leaving this for last.)

I took out the intro with Chun-li. I had the same situation. Although I prefer it like this. Like in her win animation with Dhalsim. She 'faints' since "Dhalsim returns gives her consciousness". This is ok against her during her 'Doll days'. But by her Delta Red time to present, it's not necessary.  (Any true Cammy fan can correct me if I'm wrong).

I'll have a look at her running animation. Thanks for the feedback.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: varo_hades on December 21, 2014, 04:44:36 am
Looks nice the update :thumbsup:, and don't worry if Chucho makes another update because could be in much time, and I can comment him about your patch for including in the next update, only hope that he can update the sprites of her boots or if someone can do would be perfect :D

Thanks! And about the boots? Yeah, been thinking of that. Once I finish with some other edits, I will start on them. Just to see how it goes.
Nice to read this :), Can't wait.

I so feel like doing a CvS conversion of this. Adding this to my lit of things I wanna do! :)
Wow that's would be perfect :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: 【 HadeS 】 on December 21, 2014, 05:18:25 am
I think you could use Cammy by PotS and copy and paste each part of her gloves and boots because they're already separated (something that Chucho could have done when he edited her into this) :P
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: electrocaid on December 21, 2014, 10:14:36 am
I haven't patched her. Could you be able to load her in mega the full char to try her out?. :)

that'd be perfect...
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: 【 HadeS 】 on December 21, 2014, 02:23:38 pm
Chck your PMs, dude :)

I just noticed I randomly appeared here without saying any single word about the patch.
Anyway, good job with the patch, I think the same as MotorRoach said. I already had her in my roster but this patch is the best, it's "perfect" now. We need boots and gloves and everything will be alright. Thanks for taking the time to fix and update her :)
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 21, 2014, 10:27:09 pm
Chck your PMs, dude :)

I just noticed I randomly appeared here without saying any single word about the patch.
Anyway, good job with the patch, I think the same as MotorRoach said. I already had her in my roster but this patch is the best, it's "perfect" now. We need boots and gloves and everything will be alright. Thanks for taking the time to fix and update her :)

Thank you Hades! And thank you all for your feedback.

I will be releasing another patch shortly. This second one has some additional edits on some sprites (perhaps details that most won't notice) among other things. But first I want to check each pcx before I release it. 

About the Gloves and Boots...
(http://i.imgur.com/85UKCCC.gif)
(This is just a test/teaser. Not the final work.)
I'm already working on it. But this will take longer to make. (This will be for my 3rd patch, if I get there).


Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: 【 HadeS 】 on December 21, 2014, 10:44:42 pm
You're welcome! I haven't seen what you said about the small portrait before. I'm so sorry. I'm glad you like it. I loved her big portrait too ;)

She's looking great :D I see some issues with that stand you're showing but like you said, it's just a test. So, I prefer waiting until the final version and I'm sure it'll look great :)

I've also made new LvL 3 Portrait for her when she first was released. I don't like it at all but I prefer this one instead of the one she already has (I'm sorry Varo_Hades!)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: MotorRoach on December 21, 2014, 11:41:40 pm
The stance is nice, but the glove still borrows skin shades. Thing is that you need to give it the same shades of red as the beret, so everything looks more nicely separated.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 22, 2014, 12:34:59 am
The stance is nice, but the glove still borrows skin shades. Thing is that you need to give it the same shades of red as the beret, so everything looks more nicely separated.

 :stare2:

(...on it...)

Ok, what I see is that the Glove's shades, part of the face, and part of the boots all share palettes. If I edit the gloves, some parts of the head an boots will follow... However... if I take those colors, take the pcx out, edit them correctly (using those same colors), and place it back, then that should work.
(Sorry if I sound like a noob. I am.)

Here is a sample:
(http://i.imgur.com/GKheoin.png)
The right glove is the regular one, and the left one was just edited, using the colors of the beret.
I can make this happen. I will have to take each image and edit it one by one. (Plus remove all brown from her boot... just a thought.)

(...I just described how color separation is done, haven't I...    :blank:  )
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: MotorRoach on December 22, 2014, 01:42:38 am
Yes, that's a big improvement already. It'll certainly look awesome when finished.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: varo_hades on December 22, 2014, 02:29:15 am
Chck your PMs, dude :)

I just noticed I randomly appeared here without saying any single word about the patch.
Anyway, good job with the patch, I think the same as MotorRoach said. I already had her in my roster but this patch is the best, it's "perfect" now. We need boots and gloves and everything will be alright. Thanks for taking the time to fix and update her :)

Thank you Hades! And thank you all for your feedback.

I will be releasing another patch shortly. This second one has some additional edits on some sprites (perhaps details that most won't notice) among other things. But first I want to check each pcx before I release it. 

About the Gloves and Boots...
(http://i.imgur.com/85UKCCC.gif)
(This is just a test/teaser. Not the final work.)
I'm already working on it. But this will take longer to make. (This will be for my 3rd patch, if I get there).
Looks nice the update on her boots :)
And don't worry about the color separation, I can do it if you wish.

You're welcome! I haven't seen what you said about the small portrait before. I'm so sorry. I'm glad you like it. I loved her big portrait too ;)

She's looking great :D I see some issues with that stand you're showing but like you said, it's just a test. So, I prefer waiting until the final version and I'm sure it'll look great :)

I've also made new LvL 3 Portrait for her when she first was released. I don't like it at all but I prefer this one instead of the one she already has (I'm sorry Varo_Hades!)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Ohhhw man that hurt me :(
Na I'm kidding, I made that Hyper protrait when I was starting on mugen, yours is much better and thanks for make this new :)


Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Flowrellik on December 22, 2014, 02:48:24 am
Im really liking the teaser Idle stand :).
keep up the awesome work bud :3
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 22, 2014, 04:24:00 am
Managed to edit her new stand animation, following the advice on using the same colors as her beret. Here are the results: ( :D )

(http://i.imgur.com/RqcFtov.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/M86I38w.gif)

Took the browns from her boots, gave it all black tones.
This glove/boot edit means I have to recheck her other palettes.
I have to admit it's looks WAY better. Gonna take a while for the 2nd patch, but it's going to be a major one.


And don't worry about the color separation, I can do it if you wish.


That would be awesome! But It's better to wait until I'm done with all this details and color swap. I'm doing some touch-up edits as I go.
And when I mention 'edits' or touch-up, I mean this:
(http://i.imgur.com/RuTB0EL.png)

Im really liking the teaser Idle stand :).
keep up the awesome work bud :3
Thanks! I'll do my best.

Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: varo_hades on December 22, 2014, 04:43:43 am
Managed to edit her new stand animation, following the advice on using the same colors as her beret. Here are the results: ( :D )

(http://i.imgur.com/RqcFtov.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/M86I38w.gif)

Took the browns from her boots, gave it all black tones.
This glove/boot edit means I have to recheck her other palettes.
I have to admit it's looks WAY better. Gonna take a while for the 2nd patch, but it's going to be a major one.


And don't worry about the color separation, I can do it if you wish.


That would be awesome! But It's better to wait until I'm done with all this details and color swap. I'm doing some touch-up edits as I go.

Im really liking the teaser Idle stand :).
keep up the awesome work bud :3
Thanks! I'll do my best.
Looks better the stance, I like it.
And sure, you let me know when finish her, for make the color separation :)
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: BIG BOSS on December 22, 2014, 05:35:43 am
Now that's decent team work folks, keep up the hard work my man.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Flowrellik on December 22, 2014, 06:45:50 am
Amen to that!
Best of luck to you both! Also keep an eye out on that Frankensteiner/Hooligan Roll Frankensteiner glitch in case it was not touched at all.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Trololo on December 22, 2014, 07:17:21 am
Wow...
I glad to see you all still working on her.
Not that I'm a lazy ass...
P.S.: I think left hand of her must be fixed. It looks slighty deformated. Like a bow. I think that it should be convex on both sides.
(http://i.imgur.com/RqcFtov.png)
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: electrocaid on December 22, 2014, 07:06:49 pm
Chck your PMs, dude :)

checked
thanked
mission accomplished... Sir!
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Flowrellik on December 22, 2014, 11:49:05 pm
hmmm I noticed in comparison to the stand sprite on both cammys. Delta Red's chest seems smaller than Killer Bee's.
just a pointer.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 23, 2014, 09:12:46 pm
hmmm I noticed in comparison to the stand sprite on both cammys. Delta Red's chest seems smaller than Killer Bee's.
just a pointer.

Not sure if editing the 'chest' would make the char loose some integrity...
(http://i.imgur.com/m9IoDP6.png)
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: MotorRoach on December 23, 2014, 09:33:31 pm
It's hard for me to tell if the chest size is accurate or not, because I didn't even notice it much. It seemed about right to me, but I might be wrong.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Black Hatter on December 23, 2014, 11:08:35 pm
Chest on the left seems more accurate to DR Cammy. The one on the right seems inflated and unnatural if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Flowrellik on December 23, 2014, 11:38:27 pm
hmmm I guess the left is fine. I'm making sure this Cammy's good and whatnot. carry on ^^
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 24, 2014, 04:55:58 am
I have to admit that while editing her sff, I have noticed that her stand animation's *cough* chest size... is a slight different compared to other sprites. I will try to do something to even her up, without making it look too er... voluptuous.  :blush:

--UPDATE! (on the chest issue)--

Managed to work between the 2 sizes. Mostly using shadow.
(http://i.imgur.com/GKXWqye.png)

Now her chest goes along with her other animations.  :)

This update will be part of the new patch I will release soon.

(I'm pretty sure there will be those who would want the big-chest one...  --; )
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Lord Kain on December 24, 2014, 09:03:49 am
Has this update been uploaded?
Title: Re: Edit/Fix Patch for Chuchoryu/Varo_Hades's SF4 Cammy
Post by: Tiger-Boy on December 24, 2014, 09:09:09 am
Has this update been uploaded?

Not yet. But Once I finish editing her gloves I will release a new patch, including that update. (Sorry I was not clear about that...)