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Art & Entertainment => Gaming => Topic started by: c001357 on August 10, 2015, 05:42:19 pm

Title: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: c001357 on August 10, 2015, 05:42:19 pm
because we havent genderbent enough historical figures yet
official site (http://www.fate-go.jp/)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 10, 2015, 05:43:34 pm
not moving the posts from the weeaboo topic ? you are such a lazy admin.

stil no pictures of quetz ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 10, 2015, 06:37:36 pm
No picture of Quetzalcoatl because he's unlikely to come out until late in the game along with the other few full-on gods. A new TMAce came out dedicated to FGO with portraits and stats for the Servants that'll roll out when the 3rd chapter, Okeanos, is available (Fuyuki being chapter 0, Orléans and Rome being 1 and 2), and it's mostly sea-oriented Servants, obviously.
because we havent genderbent enough historical figures yet
Actually it seems pretty tame so far, considering the running gag that started with the first game. Drake was from Extra and explained by having the actual Drake switch place with the queen, then Yoshitsune is occasionally taken as a girl often enough in actual lore so it's not a massive stretch, d'Eon was a historical real life trap, and then Arturia and Nero were just the weird ones that started it all. Attila is the only real genderbend out of nowhere, and Da Vinci just said fuck it, I painted my ideal beauty, I want to appear that way.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 10, 2015, 06:38:49 pm
Apparently,the KohaACE magazine confirmed that the new content will be made available this friday,and to celebrate that,a 40 quartz gatcha that guarantees at least one 4* and one 5*.
Save up yo gems kids,just in case
Edit: Also share yo IDs so we can earn each other Friendship Points, 897951712 ,lvl 25 Jing Ke
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: c001357 on August 10, 2015, 07:19:26 pm
not moving the posts from the weeaboo topic ? you are such a lazy admin.

is it a good idea? feels like itd put the conversations in the other thread out of context

Actually it seems pretty tame so far, considering the running gag that started with the first game. Drake was from Extra and explained by having the actual Drake switch place with the queen, then Yoshitsune is occasionally taken as a girl often enough in actual lore so it's not a massive stretch, d'Eon was a historical real life trap, and then Arturia and Nero were just the weird ones that started it all. Attila is the only real genderbend out of nowhere, and Da Vinci just said fuck it, I painted my ideal beauty, I want to appear that way.

point, but since this is a mobage who knows what theyll add
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 10, 2015, 07:22:51 pm
is it a good idea? feels like itd put the conversations in the other thread out of context
I think there are some posts that include discussions about other stuff along with this, so probably not a good idea.
I think my code is... 308823527 / Gil ? But I only got a Lv12 Spartacus right now anyway.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 10, 2015, 08:19:09 pm
There seems to be a planned maintenace thats gonna last around 3 hours thats gonna start at midnight japan time
Hopefully they're gonna fix XP drops,people have only been getting Berserker and Lancer golden XP drops and not a single golden one from other classes
I think my code is... 308823527 / Gil ? But I only got a Lv12 Spartacus right now anyway.
Sent mine,I'll use you as support for some easier levels so you can get some cash
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Just No Point on August 10, 2015, 08:56:57 pm
When this gets on IOS I may have to check it out. Maybe it'll be the 1st ios game I'll like and actually play? hah doubtful
Title: Whoa parenthesis. Fixed.
Post by: S.D. on August 11, 2015, 12:35:28 am
387033476 Lv15 Sasaki, I still haven't used my Quartz so I don't have 4*+ servants... Other than Saber Lily so shut up and save France with him, I'd switch to Mephistopheles but everyone is in France right now and why would you use a Caster against all those dragons?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 11, 2015, 01:00:51 am
I got my Spartacus up a couple levels thanks to the daily quests pumping non-knight classes EXP cards today (most of my Servants are non-knights), and by the time I figured that Blackbeard was lame, my Boudicca stalled. Similarly, I like Caster Cu, but he has shit firepower. I haven't tried out Phantom, and I dropped Mephisto, but I got a Sasaki and he's growing fast. And I'm not even trying Mata Hari (yeah, lots of Assassins in here)
Other than that... that AP regeneration rate is so terrible once you have a Master level too high to gain a level (and reset all your AP) every two or three quests :| Waiting over an hour and a half just to be able to do a poor 10AP quest ? It's not like we can just sit in front of the thing all day long...
Also, note to self : never use Erro's Jing Ke's NP as the final attack on a boss just for kicks when Jing Ke is the last surviving member of the team. Like Arash's, it's a god damn suicide move >_< wasting a Command Spell to revive the whole team *after* the boss is dead, now this is fun.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 11, 2015, 01:09:05 am
Yeah, the AP regeneration is bad once you reach the point where it takes you a while to level up, then it's either run story for progression and unlock more servants in gacha and at the same time get quartz and level up.... but if the content is too hard you're stuck doing dailies for the exp cards.
That's how mobages are with cooldown periods but still, other games are a tad more lenient (In FFRK it's three minutes for one point of stamina)

Anyways, some resources:
Quote
>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/G669xgbK

>Basic/General guides: making your way around the game
http://pastebin.com/GnwyTYGL

>Battle guides: Story Quests, Daily Quests, and other misc battle information
http://pastebin.com/akFC4Bky

>Party guides: Servants, Craft Essences, what they do, and how to use them
http://pastebin.com/mnurm57Q

>Extra Servant materials: for translated Servant information that doesn’t affect gameplay
http://pastebin.com/KebJjGAp
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 11, 2015, 11:09:23 am
I'm glad they finally just copy pasted a bunch of stuff into those pastebins,the OP in /vg/ looked cluttered as all hell

Also AP isn't really that big of a problem when you get like 5-6 quartz every day and 1 quartz refills the entire thing.
Also, note to self : never use Erro's Jing Ke's NP as the final attack on a boss just for kicks when Jing Ke is the last surviving member of the team. Like Arash's, it's a god damn suicide move >_< wasting a Command Spell to revive the whole team *after* the boss is dead, now this is fun.
It does 1000 damage to her as historically she took a sword to the hip when she tried to stab her target,she doesn't go arash akbar.
Just use a spell to heal her up for 1000 HP if you don't have that much and then stab the enemy dragons kneecaps with it
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 11, 2015, 11:22:17 am
Also AP isn't really that big of a problem when you get like 5-6 quartz every day and 1 quartz refills the entire thing.
Yeah, I learned about that last night, gonna make good use of it since I'm hoarding those right now (I have like 60).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 11, 2015, 03:08:13 pm
You all have more than I do,jesus,I have 47 of em
Also seems we will get more apology gems because the events were a bit fucked.
....This will only make it harder for me to wait till friday to roll

Also I'm still in fuckin' france and am almost at the damn castle
(http://i.imgur.com/wW38wYl.jpg)

Edit: iOS version tomorrow..?Or something like that
https://twitter.com/fgoproject/status/631094509816819712

Edit2:
http://fategrandorder.gawiki.com/wiki/Producer_letter:_to_iOS_players_who_wait_for_the_game
Since iOS users had to wait for their version they will get a gift of 54 quartz
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 12, 2015, 04:34:18 pm
iOS version seems to be out already,and if you create an account for the game today or tommorow you will get some bonuses so y'all get to it
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Just No Point on August 12, 2015, 05:19:51 pm
I can't find it in the App Store. :( Only finding a guide to play it there. Do I need to search for something other than Fate Grand Order or Fate/Grand Order?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 12, 2015, 06:35:55 pm
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11811575_834091143341305_4370858471898648837_n.jpg?oh=55f4646a9b21cc2fe12f3eeef3bba855&oe=564DF436)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 12, 2015, 07:09:38 pm
I can't find it in the App Store. :( Only finding a guide to play it there. Do I need to search for something other than Fate Grand Order or Fate/Grand Order?
It's for Japan only. Allow external / unapproved sources for the apps (it's in the security parameters), then go to apkpure or qooapp to download the APK and launch it for the install (... that doesn't count as piracy to link to those sites, right ? It's free applications, just region locked). Don't forget, though : it won't automatically update itself when there's a new version, and if you redownload the app, it'll tell you that it can't install because it's already there, so you have  to uninstall it first. Before you do any of that, make sure you bind your account (http://grand-fate.tumblr.com/post/125427320164/binding-accounts-restoring-data) and then restore it after you've installed the update. (and then generate a new binding code again, it's one-time use)
Oh, and if you ever get an error screen right when you start the app, most of the time it's a server maintenance, don't worry, just wait (can be anywhere from a couple hours to nearly 24 hours and only coming back up for 10 minutes then another maintenance).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 12, 2015, 09:56:08 pm
doesn't qooapp have an update button though?Its there for Android version but I don't know whether its there for iOS.
Also based devs and those 3 golden ALL experience gems that I have no clue who to waste on
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 12, 2015, 10:13:45 pm
doesn't qooapp have an update button though?
It does ? I went with the other one (easier to find) and I've heard other people talk about that so I thought qooapp was the same. Good, then.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 12, 2015, 10:47:26 pm
Yeah, to update your app you just have to go to QooApp, click on Fate Grand Order and then you'll find the update button at the bottom.

I had to use a command seal for the first time after fighting Kiyohime and Elizabeth Bathory, I took like three NPs, ugh. On the other hand it was a nice investment since that leveled me up, I recovered AP and thus lost more sleep to use it. Yay (And thanks to that, my Tsubame Gaeshi is now LV3, and I'm at 150 Quartz)

Edit: Just so you don't mess up and prepare beforehand with the proper class for each stage:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1768996010
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 12, 2015, 11:10:18 pm
I managed to get through those with little to no problem,but I had nothing to counter Atalanta with as she is an archer as I didn't have Saber then
Also,Shadow Gilgamesh is a fucking bitch,2 resurrections and 7 NPs to take him down,jesus
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 12, 2015, 11:20:08 pm
My only Saber is... Saber Lily, sooo...
I just messed up by not using Jeanne's NP before their own, and I was too lazy to quit the app to restart the battle, oh well.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 12, 2015, 11:25:51 pm
My bad,Archers are countered by Lancers and I am yet to get a single lancer.
Got Caligula as a berserker on the free roll and might actually put some exp into him as he looks cool
I just messed up by not using Jeanne's NP before their own, and I was too lazy to quit the app to restart the battle, oh well.
They made her NP a bit too good
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 12, 2015, 11:27:14 pm
No Saber, no Lancer, one Archer.... Arash. Casters and Assassins up the wazzoo, two Riders, one Berserker (Spartacus). Can't get anyone past level 16 (well, it'll be better when I can properly abuse the Cavalry EXP day). That's not really working out great.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Watta on August 12, 2015, 11:30:42 pm
I see the apk is 37.73 MB, but judging by the screenshots I'm going to assume that the actual size is quite large. Could someone please tell me how much space in total it will take up? I might be able to fit it on my phone. Also big thanks to Byakko for explaining how to install it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 12, 2015, 11:36:15 pm
The initial APK download is 37.something MB, but then at launch it downloads some more. I'm not sure how much that takes (I don't think it took a lot more time than the initial download, so probably in the same area, like 50 tops), but after that you can do a data install rather than have the game constantly query the server. This clocks in at... 463MB, quite a bit more (also longer DL time).
Also, like SD said, qooapp appears to be preferable. Go to Qooapp's site, F/GO is on the front page, try to download and it'll ask you to DL the qooapp app (you also can't get it through the Play Store), then go in that app and get FGO on the "front page". From there, you'll be able to do an update without losing the link to your account. Just tried it (it properly replaced the APK I got from apkpure).

Man, when I finally get proper Knight class Servants, I'll fill them with EXP, I've been keeping lots of high EXP cards for them.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 12, 2015, 11:47:24 pm
Let's see, my App is a good, 499MB after the update (That's a lot, way larger than my other two mobage games, FFRK and Terra Battle), also be aware that these apps download a handful of assets on the go so if you don't have a lot of space you'll have to clear the cache data quite constantly (You can always save to a microSD if you have the option to, the minor trade off is reduced performance)

And yeah, Lancers beat Archers, that went past my head. I have Leonidas so I should start to level him up with the daily, I've been too focused on Kojiro (I got Lv4 Tsubame Gaeshi now) I'll probably get more exp cards whenever my AP refills. I guess I could switch my Kojiro for Leonidas for a while to help a bit.
Ditto about Casters and Assassins, and sadly riders aren't very good at the moment.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 13, 2015, 12:07:17 am
Ah, about the class rock-paper-scissor, I just thought, the dragons in France are Rider-class, I hear there's a lot of Assassin enemies in Rome - that's why they give out a lot of Assassins and Casters right now, right ? So they might be pushing for one class per chapter. Okeanos chapter will probably push for Riders (the pirates and all) facing Casters, London will push for I don't know what, and Jerusalem might push for Sabers given the context (although all the Hassans as well as David and Solomon should be around there). Babylon can be Gilgamesh's home turf, so Archers. And Lancers are left for London (all the Irish guys will come out there because hey, same region), meaning there will be a bunch of Archers.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 13, 2015, 12:33:53 am
Yeah, that's why I've been leveling up Sasaki, he just destroys dragons, you can check both triads works in-game and check the specific multipliers in that googledoc. They're definitely trying to make the game a bit easier by pushing servants of one class to deal with trash mobs from a specific map (And then a boss comes out and messes you up). I wonder how things will change since the datamining says there's more classes. Oh well, you can just get a good Berserker and not care about those things, as long as you have proper damage mitigation.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Just No Point on August 13, 2015, 01:46:16 am
Ugh. I'm not very phone savvy -_-
Quote
It's for Japan only. Allow external / unapproved sources for the apps (it's in the security parameters)
I can't even find this in IOS8.4 at all. I've googled it. I've googled the qooapp thing and everything but I can't find the security options to allow me to run it.

I guess it'd be a stretch to just wait till an English version?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 13, 2015, 01:50:30 am
Download bluestacks on your pc and just play with us over emulator if you can't run the iOS version
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 13, 2015, 01:59:04 am
Ugh. I'm not very phone savvy -_-
Quote
It's for Japan only. Allow external / unapproved sources for the apps (it's in the security parameters)
I can't even find this in IOS8.4 at all.
Oh, uh, that's all for Android (qooapp and downloading the APK). I forgot it just got release for iOS - but I assume iOS is also region-locked, and FGO is definitely also Japan-only there. I don't know if the iPhone has any way around the region lock and the region store and if anyone outside Japan can play it on iPhone, so yeah, if there's nothing, the Android emulator on Windows is your best bet, apparently it runs just fine... I reckon there's no iPhone emulator.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Just No Point on August 13, 2015, 02:07:29 am
Ah. Oh well. I'm sure I wouldn't have messed with it much anyway. I haven't found a game I like to play on my phone yet. Thanks for trying!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 13, 2015, 02:11:08 am
IIRC you can do it by making a Japanese account and then somehow finding your way around iTunes(I think the game is hosted on there) and getting it
Have you tried pretending to be from nippon yet?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 13, 2015, 03:51:52 am
http://app.steparu.com/guides/app-store-ios
It doesn't sound that complicated, in case you still want to give it a try.

I think the reason why the game is so huge is all the voice data, every servant has a dozen of voice samples or so, plus all the voiced story segments.
I have a small issue where the app randomly minimizes at mid-battle and it doesn't save my progress so I have to start battles all over again, it could be my phone just being awful and running out of memory though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Watta on August 13, 2015, 08:11:38 am
Thanks guys, I think I should be able to fit it in :)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: 『レム-レム』 on August 13, 2015, 03:28:20 pm
i love this games <3... but do you have a solution for red saber?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 13, 2015, 06:04:27 pm
A solution? Are you fighting her in Rome? I'm not even there yet. Just bring Archers since she's weak to them.

I barely finished the Fafnir fight.
JESUS CHRIST. SO. MANY. DRAGONS.
....Thank you Sasaki.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Mgbenz on August 13, 2015, 07:20:25 pm
Loving a lot of the new servants but eww at that young Iskandar design. Also the fuck at girl Atilla. At least Leonardo has some bit of sense. Her stripperific design is stupid too.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 13, 2015, 09:59:54 pm
Eh,seems we won't be seeing those new servants for like a month now,as many people speculated we will get 'em when the "guaranteed one 4*" event ends,but that got pushed till next month..so,fuck.
Also Rome being 200 times easier than france is kinda pissing me off as I'm doing nothing but fighting grunts with barely 2000 hp on 'em so far
edit: also something to cry at

This dude spent a shitload of money on quartz and barely got any good servants
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 15, 2015, 10:54:07 pm
Damn, the Master EXP day is incredibly efficient. My best Servant is Caster Cu at level 22, and yet it's enough to do the 20AP mission over and again. That mission has nothing but Assassin ghosts below level 25, so with two Casters and a tank (SD's Leonidas for example), I started gaining one whole Master level per round - which completely refills my AP on its own, even though my other Caster is a crappy lv 11 Mephisto. Now it takes two rounds to gain one level and I've gained over 12 levels already. It's a lot easier than the EXP missions, because you have to wait for your AP to refill to gain a significant amount of EXP.
Hopefully this run allows me to get more EXP, which, next week, lets me go for the 40AP mission. Not to mention finally finish France (lack of AP + low levels make it take a lot of time).

... The balance in this thing is terrible. The leveling barrier is all over the place. It might help if they switched the Master EXP day with the all class EXP day :P
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 16, 2015, 12:48:22 am
I feel like this game is taunting me because the entire 40 AP Master EXP quest is nothing but Casters.RIP Jing Ke.
30000 master xp is pretty fucking great tho

Also Caster Cu literally does nothing but complain about you not summoning him as a lancer,he must really like that Gae Bolg.

Also have 80 Quartz right now and I don't want to roll until the new servants come in but its extremely tempting.Really want a Tesla and Jack the Ripper
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 16, 2015, 01:13:36 am
Also Caster Cu literally does nothing but complain about you not summoning him as a lancer,he must really like that Gae Bolg.
You bet he does, I would too if Gae Bolg could one shot bosses left and right from what I've heard.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 16, 2015, 01:48:23 am
did you say GAY BULGES ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 16, 2015, 02:12:07 am
You're welcome, his skill AND NP make him a nice tank haha (I just got a better Craft Essence too so I just equipped him with it), I'll leave him as my point unit, at least until I get a nice 5* unit (I'm sitting on 174 saint quartz right now, I'm waiting for the new batch of servants to use it because I want a bunch of the servants from the leaked list)

I finally cleared France so I've been doing the 40AP Master daily (With one run I went from LV26 to 28, plus there's nice ascension material drops ), and other than the Rider shadow servant (A Rider), it IS full of Casters so bring Riders if you have them (Or Berserkers if you feel lucky). The final enemy is a LV40 Demon (Caster), just so you can plan your party accordingly.
(http://i.imgur.com/p4dzPDI.png)
I don't know if I'm fond of the way the game handles EXP, feeding cards to one unit instead of just receiving EXP from fights... I can see its ups and downs but it just feels plain weird to me.

Edit:
Actually, the 40AP Master EXP daily also has a LV30 Shadow Servant (Assassin and Archer), I'm fighting both Shadow servants and a Lamia right now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 16, 2015, 03:27:28 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/q4Y6360.png)
Jesus christ,we went from 2000hp grunts to somewhat easy bosses to fucking this
He still wasn't as hard as Gilgamesh was but jesus,Flauros was still pretty tough

Also I am way too bored of the 40 AP daily so I might as well settle for level 41 master.And I did the quest a shitload of times and haven't seen a single Snake Eye get dropped,these item drop rates are pretty crazy
I need to farm bones though
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 16, 2015, 04:05:48 pm
I'm farming the 40AP Master EXP until it's over, all that max AP will be worth it to farm the other dailies.
Also, I think I'm changing my tank to St. George, he's been awesome for the daily (Since most enemies are casters and he has some nice tanking ability)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 16, 2015, 09:45:55 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/p4dzPDI.png)

Ugh, that wasted AP. If only you had gained one level.

Currently I'm trying to make it work with Bluestacks but I'm having a bit of problem. Hopefully the tutorial I found will help me make it work. And hopefully I get Dragonslayer Kojirou for France when I roll.

---

So I just started. Free roll gave me Chevalier d'Eon. Friendship roll gave me Mata Hari. 4 Quartz roll gave me Darius III. I am honestly surprised at the party I got. I need a better Assassin but for now Mata Hari will do.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 17, 2015, 02:56:33 am
Holy shit you did really well.
I had nothing but Jing Ke and Shielder until I finished Fuyuki and you got Trap Saber right away.
Also if you're in need of a good Assassin,my Jing Ke is nicely leveled up,almost at the 2nd ascension,add me yo 897951712
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 17, 2015, 04:18:19 am
Ugh, that wasted AP. If only you had gained one level.
That's a non-issue, Sundays are exclusively for leveling master EXP, getting the maximum level ASAP is a huge investment for everything else that comes after. Now I don't have to do two or three stages and wait hours for AP, I can do twice or thrice as much.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 17, 2015, 04:36:14 am
They really need to lower the time it takes to recharge AP tho,playing for 2 minutes then having to wait 4 hours is really annoying.
Also those 1* XP cards we get don't really feel like gifts at all,rather a slap in the face.I dunno why
Edit:They're fixing up Servers in like 2 or so hours and its gonna last 3 hours
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 17, 2015, 05:26:00 am
Seriously, you know a mobage has ridiculous cooldown when you don't have full AP/Stamina after proper sleep, my bar isn't halfway full, what the hell.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 17, 2015, 10:48:43 am
1 AP each 10 minutes is ridiculous, even by Mobage standarts. I hope they lower it a bit. I also hope they split Craft Essence and Servant rolls, fuck the Black Keys.

Edit: Oh, and I'm adding you right now Erroratsu. My party leader is d'Eon btw. Oh, and my name is Oz.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Honestly my policy about Mobages is to put zero effort in getting cards, aka what I get is what I'll be stuck with (will still do Friendship rolls and Quartz rolls gotten in the game though). I wasn't expecting to be lucky to get these Servants. Darius is one of the good Berserker Servants for what I've read (Heracles being the best), and Chevalier d'Eon has good stats and skills too.

Also, Mata Hari is at lvl. 2 bond already. Seriously, it raises so fast that it surpassed d'Eon even though I got him/her first. Darius raises extremely slow though. I guess they have different bond rates.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 17, 2015, 11:17:56 am
D'Eon is historically a he trap (but he acted like a she trap for a while), and in this game, it's a she trap (confirmed by Marie Antoinette who did know him in real life).
It looks like Heracles is top, Lu Bu is second, then Darius and Vlad are close enough together. From the other end, it's Asterion, Caligula, Kiyohime.
Servants with more stars raise their level more slowly. 5 stars are a bitch to raise, 1 stars raise easily, but their level cap is lower (they ascend much sooner too).
There's no way they split CE from Servants in rolls, it's what makes people use money. But fuck the EXP cards in rolls, though, especially 1 star EXP cards, seriously. I wonder if there will be more types of CE when new Servant batches come in, or if the chance to get Servants will increase...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 17, 2015, 12:56:27 pm
This game keeps crashing on me each time I do a Friendship roll. And I lose all points wasted when that happens :(

Edit: Finished Fuyuki, got Caster Cu. Also I have done two single Quartz rolls and I've been granted Mephistopheles and Ushiwakamaru. What's the chance that all your Quartz rolls are Servants?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 17, 2015, 06:38:25 pm
Low, but it can happen twice in a row sometimes. Don't count on it though, the random factor is harsh.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 17, 2015, 09:09:59 pm
Well guys, guess what Servant I just got in some weird free friendship roll I just got:

(http://i.imgur.com/38r2vRy.jpg)

Just when I started to find dragons. My god, is this game doing it on purpose LOL?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 17, 2015, 09:21:33 pm
some weird free friendship roll I just got:
There's one free friend roll a day (and the day reset is at midnight JST, but the free login reset is at 4 or 6 AM JST).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 18, 2015, 12:23:59 am
Servants with more stars raise their level more slowly. 5 stars are a bitch to raise, 1 stars raise easily, but their level cap is lower (they ascend much sooner too).
Nah apparently it depends on something else, Mephistopheles bounds insanely fast and he's 3* (Or maybe, just maybe, it's because he was my first servant?)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 18, 2015, 12:31:04 am
I think it depends on characters personality or something?Jing Ke and Caster Cu are both 3 stars and Jing Ke bounded with me much faster than Cu did.

On an unrelated note,Caligula has good skills(ATK up and can heal himself) but his stats are pretty crappy so far,and so is his NP.I really like him tho which sucks.I also really wanted to make Minotaur work but his damn stats never seem to go anywhere ,jesus.

Also fuck those dog cards,30 cubes to get them just so they can raise your attack or hp by only 50.

Edit:Also did a single roll.Got Saber Gilles.Burned him for 3 cubes
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 18, 2015, 12:43:27 am
I would suggest going for HP rather than attack. It hardly makes any difference 50 more attack, while 50 more HP may allow you to survive one attack.

And yeah, for Bond XP it really depends on character personality, the more friendly they are, the faster it goes. For example, Mata Hari bonds really fast, d'Eon at a nice speed, Kojirou a bit slow and Darius really slow. It's easy to tell it's about their personality by using those examples. I'm sure Marie Antoinette and possibly Kiyohime levels up fast too, while Emiya may take a bit of time because of his cynical personality.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 18, 2015, 01:41:39 am
I meant EXP increase, not bond increase (I'm noticing just now that Nanashi was in fact talking about bonds, my mistake). Although it's possible that bond affects EXP increase, but it doesn't feel like it does to me.
Lv 25 Caster Cu is surprisingly strong, he's my strongest character right now (and I've pushed Sasaki, Alexander and Spartacus decently, they're all around Lv 22 to 24). He soloed a lv30 Rider-class hand monster in a single Brave chain in spite of the class weakness. He'll be useful in Rome, since I hear it's full of Assassins.
Too bad that at this level, it's starting to cost more QP than I gain EXP when I level him up...

And yeah, Asterion seems to be the worst Berserker, and Caligula is right next to him. How come Asterion's NP is EX ranked.

Also Nanashi, you should post your friend code, and we probably should ask a mod to keep up with the people posting their friend ID to edit the first post...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 18, 2015, 02:02:28 am
Some servants level up as an inverted S curve, so their stats only start to skyrocket at higher levels (Hi Saber Lily), I don't know how to feel about that, leveling up said characters at higher levels will take a ridiculous amount of EXP cards. I don't know if that's the case with these Berserkers though, then again they're one star haha.

Man I woke up, my stamina wasn't full, I got to do three rome stages and now my AP is gone again. Awesome.

As for Rome: Ehh, sorta but not quite, there are some Assassins here and there but it's not anywhere near close to France being full of Riders. Rome is a big more varied, there's still a handful of skeletons and roman soldiers of the Saber, Archer and Lancer class, there's also a large amount of Berserker-class golems.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: 100_Sad_Pandas on August 18, 2015, 02:28:37 am
How are you guys playing the game? I thought it was region locked for Japan only
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 18, 2015, 02:33:57 am
Rome is basically a bunch of saber/lancer grunts with like 2000 hp and then a 20 000 hp Berserker Golem here and there.
Assassin Ghosts jump in rarely,and the last chapter has a dragon or 2.
I don't remember what the chimeras classify as tho.

And yeah, Asterion seems to be the worst Berserker, and Caligula is right next to him. How come Asterion's NP is EX ranked.
His character profile has his stats as pretty good while he sucks ingame.He would probably be useful in an actual Holy Grail War much more than he is ingame
How are you guys playing the game? I thought it was region locked for Japan only
The store is region locked.However the game isn't,so if you get the game through qooapp you can play it on your android or on your emulator of choice
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 18, 2015, 02:57:44 am
I don't know, Spain is actually full of golems so far.
Chimeras are berserkers, I just fought two golems and a chimera at the end of this round, it was tough, but yeah, I also heard that Rome was full of Assassins initially but that really wasn't the case.

Aaand I reached 200 quartz.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Mgbenz on August 18, 2015, 05:07:07 am
Gah why do I often keep getting Assassin class servants?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 18, 2015, 09:32:58 am
How are you guys playing the game? I thought it was region locked for Japan only

I used this to play it on my computer since I don't have an Android nor an iOs. Keep in mind it tends to crash a few times. If you have one of those devices, simply grab the QooApp and download the game through it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3fgvwx/guidefaq_how_to_play_fate_grand_order_without/

And before I forget. And I already added all the friend codes posted in this thread:

Quote
Name: Oz
Friend code: 562219238
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 18, 2015, 12:14:13 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/hcjIb1D.png)
I cleared Rome in an epic stand off where
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

So uh, now I'm waiting for new content, I guess I have dailies and free quests to keep me "busy", taking into account the ridiculous AP recharge time.

Also, I switched my tank to St.George because he's actually better than Leonidas, especially on master EXP day.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 18, 2015, 12:40:32 pm
Me, I'm stuck in France because of the ridiculous low AP regeneration. If it was faster, I'm sure I would have reached the last stage already. Seriously, to advance the next node I need to do 5 fights of 9 AP. And unfortunately I don't enough AP to do them all, nor enough Exp to level up. I sure hope there's less nodes like that.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 18, 2015, 12:49:13 pm
There's more. Way way more.
This is why you abuse the  EXP refill on Master EXP day, you do the 40 AP if you can (Or multiples of lesser exp), get a refill, do one or two stages from the main scenario and then go back to grind for more master EXP, it's tedious but effective, eventually you'll have to add more master EXP runs to level up but it's well worth it, that's how I blazed through Orleans.

New events:
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/bqdsnb

...Great all the servants I have... oh well. At least we'll get ascension materials and gems?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 18, 2015, 02:29:12 pm
Unfortunately I have yet to reach 40 AP, so yeah, a looooong way to go for me.

Cool at that event, I seriously needed an Archer and Lancer. Arash specially, as it has a great suicidal NP. Though I wonder when will they decide to add the new Servants or Okeanos, there's hardly anything more to do in the game after beating Rome.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 18, 2015, 02:41:49 pm
I don't think they were expecting everyone to finish Rome so soon. A lot of people paid a lot and have a bunch of Lv 60~80 Arturia, Jeanne, Heracles, Altera etc. ascended to the max already. I started less than a week late and I'm still one tile before Orleans because AP regeneration + working during the day. And I haven't even done any Free Quest yet.
But then again, I actually (do my best to) read the text. Nasu writes so fucking much, and a lot of people just skip it and maybe read it later in the event archive - maybe that's a good way to wait for AP regen actually...
...Great all the servants I have... oh well. At least we'll get ascension materials and gems?
Apparently it's precisely here so you can ascend these low ranked Servants, including leveling their NP. I won't mind taking them all - I haven't checked if Shakespeare is worth something.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 18, 2015, 02:43:31 pm
You weren't kidding with the nodes. After beating Martha I got in my face another five battle 9 AP nodes. Fuck you game. Oh well, a good time to take a break I guess.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 18, 2015, 02:56:54 pm
The real fun starts when you have like, five 13AP nodes in a row (Sup Rome)

I guess the extra servants + Ascension materials are there to help people who have trouble with France? I do want to ascend Kojiro, I don't know abouyt the rest, I mean I'll do it eventually but I'll be using my EXP cards on whatever 5* servant I end up rolling with all my quartz.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 18, 2015, 05:17:52 pm
Apparently it's precisely here so you can ascend these low ranked Servants, including leveling their NP. I won't mind taking them all - I haven't checked if Shakespeare is worth something.
Last time i checked,most casters can be completely ignored,including Shakespeare.Andersen seems to be really good for buffs and support tho

Edit:it seems some new servants are in the game now...as enemies only tho.I hope this means we get em soon

Edit2:(http://i.imgur.com/yhtlPt8.jpg)
I don't know if I like Lancelots NP being a quick attack.GOLD looks hype as fuck tho,too bad I will never roll the guy
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 18, 2015, 09:17:50 pm
All of them 4-5 stars... Oh well, hopefully Jack the Ripper and Astolfo are 3 or less. Wow Gilgamesh skills btw.

Edit: Ugh, a Spartacus... Guess I won't be getting an Archer or Lancer until the special event starts...

Edit2: Okay, I no longer need a Lancer. My single Quartz roll just gave me a Cu Chulaiin. Now for my missing Archer. Also, I already knew in advance that Caster Gilles only targets Jeanne, but it appears that Lancelot does the same for Arturia. I'm so glad I got her as support (a lvl 42 with that Emiya 5* craft), that monstruosity literally ate the health of that Saber in two turns by getting all attacks critical. I'm so glad I had her.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 19, 2015, 01:08:42 am
I recall reading that Berserker Lancelot won't end up being that good due to his stats.

Also... I've been doing Free Quests so a heads up: Avoid the Paris Free Quest at all costs, unless you have a very OP team because after two rounds of wyverns you'll fight a Lv50 Shadow Servant (Ruler), she has a ridiculous pool of HP, I had to abuse my two tanks, all my dodge commands (Along with Shielder's abilities) and even use a command seal to restore the support I brought (Lv50 Berserker, the only reliable way to deal damage to her)
I don't think I'll try this again until I recover my command seals (And I still have to go through this two more times, on the other hand that'll give me 30 quartz)

...At least it's sorta doable, unlike the 40 quartz mission in Fuyuki.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 19, 2015, 01:27:49 am
(And I still have to go through this two more times, on the other hand that'll give me 30 quartz)
Well... I'm pretty sure that when you don't have Command Seals, you can use one quartz instead to revive your team (although I'm not completely sure you can do it more than once a day, like the CS).

On the other hand - 30 quartz in Paris, 40 quartz in Fuyuki ? That doesn't sound right. Are you referring to the number above the quartz symbol ? Because I'm pretty sure that's the recommended average level for everyone in your team to take on this mission. It's not the number of quartz it gives you :( You only get one quartz most of the time. Same with  the daily quests, one manaprism.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 19, 2015, 01:49:03 am
Yeah, the 30 above the two swords is the recommended level, something that it's easy to miss if you didn't know in advance. Which I'm glad I did, since I spared myself from being trashed by that Shadow Heracles in Fuyuki. And no way you win that fight at lvl 40 LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 19, 2015, 01:51:50 am
The recommended level makes no sense,it sometimes tells you you need to be level 30 for a bunch of easy mobs and sometimes you get your level 20 party fucked over because it was too difficult for the recommended level.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 19, 2015, 01:58:28 am
Is it difficulty/recommended level? Given how much of a struggle this was it makes sense (I don't know if some of these would still be doable with a party full of LV30's though, it might be an arbitrary number, sometimes it's very misleading, as Erroratu said), still, just one for all this trouble? (Sure the clear screen says x1, but I thought it was x1 of a set group of items, oh well) I don't know how to feel about it.

I think the 10 AP dailies give one and 20 AP give two and so? I didn't really pay much attention to the result screens on master EXP day but I feel like I got two at some point (That and I haven't done dailies ever since, AP is so difficult to recover so I'd rather get these free quests out of the way)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 19, 2015, 02:19:51 am
I spared myself from being trashed by that Shadow Heracles in Fuyuki. And no way you win that fight at lvl 40 LOL.
Incidentally, that's the same mission where I realized what the number was.
But yeah, I guess it's more of a guideline, like, don't run into a 40 with a team of 15, and you might still need a good synergy or CE or leveled NPs, and/or hope for a good advantage through weaknesses. I think the 'recommended lv 25" mission for the Cavalry EXP daily has some Lv30 monsters, and if they all hit several criticals in a row, you're rapidly in trouble. Or you might get lucky and get nothing but lv12 monsters in three waves recommended at lv25, but it's not that often that they're all weak. I think those cases rely on class advantages, in which case even lower level monsters can still hit you bad.

... Did... Did the forum just make a copy of my post instead of edit it... ? Double post deleted.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 19, 2015, 05:39:26 am
I need to check the reference links to know what's Rome's difficulty 40 battle, but other than that I'm almost done with the Free Quests... not counting all the interlude ones that are locked.
Oh, today's friend rolls gave me Hassan and Blackbeard (Supposedly Hassan is a very good Assassin despite being two stars) do that's more interludes I'll have  to deal with... whever I end up unlocking him (Supposedly max out bond level and then ascending the servant, but it's not fully confirmed, but that's mostly why I put a junk unit in my last slot, so they can leech some bond points while doing nothing and eventually unlock their interlude)

Edit:
So these are the next batch of servants, for those who haven't seen it.
https://imgur.com/a/0NV2r
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 19, 2015, 08:53:37 am
If I recall correctly, apart from the ones that have already appeared in other Fate novels, the new ones in order are:

- Lancelot (Saber version)
- Enkidu
- Brynhildr
- Da Vinci (the shopkeeper girl if you didn't know. He's a man in the Fate universe but decided to have the form of the Mona Lisa because)

Also, one question. How hard it is the 30 level quest from the new event? I just did the 18 level one and it was easy to do IMO.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 19, 2015, 12:55:54 pm
Enkidu isn't new,he is from Fate Strange Fake
The series in which Richard Lionheart gets arrested and then apologizes for the destruction he caused on live american TV while the entirety of the Mages association has an aneurysm
Also, one question. How hard it is the 30 level quest from the new event? I just did the 18 level one and it was easy to do IMO.
Spooky skeletons and spooky ghosts,so yea,bunch of assassins,nothing difficult really
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 19, 2015, 01:23:23 pm
Also apparently Brynhild is the previous Lancer in Fate/Prototype, although she wasn't revealed at the time, like Arash.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 19, 2015, 04:52:38 pm
enkidu also has the best summoning with only prototype-apocrypha assassin coming close.
spoiler of enkidu's summoning
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

pretty hilarious, if I may say.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 19, 2015, 10:20:28 pm
I do remember reading that somewhere, Enkidu making a pact with a wolf, a really long time ago. Don't remember where, maybe the wiki.

Wow, I just encountered the first bullshit fight in the game. Against Atalanta. A grand total of 5 battles in the node, three of them with dragons. And guess what, the third one with dragons is Atalanta with Black Dragons. And her NP fills in just three turns, and it's a AoE attack. And the damage it does one-shots all my characters. I had wasted my dodges trying to reach the fights because the dragons love to spam that wind attack that always crits. Ffs that was just imposible.

Fortunately I had 3 command spells, and Darius killed Atalanta before going down with a beautiful Buster Brave Combo, so once I brought them back it was easy to clean. But seriously, here hoping I never had to use a Command Spell as a challenge...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 19, 2015, 10:44:31 pm
This game is kicking my butt. Am I just missing the best way to get EXP cards? All Chaldea Gate is giving me is QP
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 19, 2015, 10:49:08 pm
The first 3 things in chaldea gate are currently the event thats going on.
The last 6 are 2 daily events that change everyday,keep in mind that its already thursday in japan
http://pastebin.com/G669xgbK check the 1st portion of the faq,that should tell you when you get what exp
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 20, 2015, 12:09:32 am
So basically, your best bet to level up your servants is to aim for the daily dungeon whenever there's EXP cards. You can use any EXP card on any class, if you match them both you get some extra bonus EXP (I think it wasn't a lot and it only ends up being a lot over time)

Friend Points roll also give EXP  cards, and your daily login also gives you some here and there.

If you're just starting, your plan should be to abuse master EXP day this Sunday as much as possible and get the max amount of AP you have, then through the week abuse the dailies to level up your servants (You should probably use a quartz to refill your AP every day to make the most out of it as well, I think you get one as a daily login bonus anyways, don't be like me and hoard them haha) then you can start taking on the main story because, unless you have the right friend support (Jeanne or a Lv50+ Berserker) and you know beforehand the units in every stage, you'll be having a very rough time.

The 30 AP quest wasn't that hard, make sure to bring decently leveled Casters and you're good. Kojiro has a handful of HP and he'll definitely use Tsubame Gaeshi more than once so use your dodges and tanks accordingly.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 20, 2015, 12:23:00 am
Yeah, will have to grind at this point. That, or wait three days for the 3 Command Seals, because I'm not seeing myself winning against Fafnir when all of its attack are AoE. And I certainly didn't need two dragon fights before the boss. Le sigh.

Kojiro is definitely useful for clearing out the goddamn dragons, but he's an Assassin, so his low health unfortunately doesn't make him last long. Fortunately I got a lvl 4 essence that increases crit damage, something he clearly benefits. Now I need more levels so my Servants clear out the dragons without losing way too much health.

Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 20, 2015, 12:42:12 am
So there's no real benefit to stocking up quartz and going for the 10 cards? Good to know, I thought maybe there'd be a higher chance of servant cards or something.

Also hearing about that master EXP thing is a huge relief because I'm level 12 and holy shit I was not looking forward to hours of grinding just to be able to do some of those gate quests
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 20, 2015, 01:02:36 am
Oh no, I'm just saving quartz because I'm waiting on some servants, you definitely should go for the premium rolls here and there, there's the promotion where a 10 roll will give you a guaranteed 4* card (Could be a servant or craft essence, but hey, four stars), that'll be active until the end of the month.
Fully clearing a stage will give you one and clearing a full map gives you a handful as well (Or was that just Fuyuki and the game's launch promotion?), if you make steady progress you should have enough for both premium rolls and AP refill.

And this game right now it's not as much hours of grinding but more of a "waiting for AP" (My max is 74 I think and I'm never full after proper sleep)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: 100_Sad_Pandas on August 20, 2015, 02:36:03 am
I got the game yesterday.
Name:  カムラン
ID: 558396363

How do I know which servants are better than others? I don't know if there's some screen or something. Right now I'm using Kid Alexander and Leonidas.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 20, 2015, 02:42:33 am
you guess. And either way, it's not much help since you have to rely on luck for those you get. It's only when you start having more than a complete team that you can start wondering about that.
And both of those are pretty good for starter Servants, at least for those you can reasonably hope to get in those classes. Not everyone can land a Heracles, Lu Bu, Arturia, Altera, or a Lancer Cu Chulainn early on.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: 100_Sad_Pandas on August 20, 2015, 03:03:07 am
Cool. Actually just got a lancer Cu right now. Are those ones considered the better ones or something?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 20, 2015, 03:34:41 am
More stars = better, that much is obvious (save few exceptions, but generally that's how it works, Vlad is supposedly a bad Berserker despite his stars, mostly due to his lack of defensive options and cards.. he can't brave buster chain, his stats are decent though and he'll be doing massive damage if he's decently leveled)

Also, even if you have a "bad"unit, if you pit them against another one where they have a favorable advantage they can save your entire team, case in point:
(http://i.imgur.com/dxBPBm3.jpg)

You can read the specifics here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3frqah/the_modern_magus_magazine_notable_servants_and/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 20, 2015, 09:51:59 am
Well, finally done with the event quests, all of them. I won the last one by mere chance, only support Arturia that kept taking hits like a boss. One more turn and I would have eaten a Tsubamegaeshi in my face. I really need to level up a lot more if I want to do the next ones.

Btw, I wonder if Arash will kill himself when he uses his NP in his event quest.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 20, 2015, 12:36:19 pm
I got the game yesterday.
Name:  カムラン
ID: 558396363

How do I know which servants are better than others? I don't know if there's some screen or something. Right now I'm using Kid Alexander and Leonidas.

Click on the my room option in the menu
Pick the first option
Then pick the first option again
That should let you see all the servants you have gotten and encountered,and the max stats of servants you have gotten.
Keep in mind you can ascend your servants pass the max level,but it costs a shitton
Cool. Actually just got a lancer Cu right now. Are those ones considered the better ones or something?
Lancer Cu is considered the best low rank Lancer at the moment as he has good stats and that Gae Bolg of his has a chance of insta kill
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 20, 2015, 01:20:10 pm
I got the game yesterday.
Name:  カムラン
ID: 558396363

How do I know which servants are better than others? I don't know if there's some screen or something. Right now I'm using Kid Alexander and Leonidas.

Leonidas is a good tank, you may want to stick with him until you get a Lancer Cu. Kid Alexander has Charisma, though you have to ascend him IIRC, which is not really worth it. Ushiwakamaru is IMO the best low rank Rider, her skills allow other units to increase the rate in which they gain NP. If your team is built to gather NP fast, she's definitely the best option

Oh, and I just added you, name is Oz.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 20, 2015, 01:38:57 pm
Alexander has Charisma from the start, his second skill for his first ascension is the charm skill.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 20, 2015, 01:52:16 pm
Oh, I though it was the opposite. Then I guess it's an okay card, though I don't know how much he increases attack.

Party buffs are always good IMO. That's why I run Mashu despite seeing people dislike her for some weird reason. Neutral damage against everything + party defense buff + invincible and NP increase to 1 unit + NP that does the same as all the buffs combined is a really good reason to run her IMO. And she's 0 cost, which means I can easily put her with a good essence without spending too much cost.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 20, 2015, 02:30:56 pm
Some people don't like her because you don't get bonus EXP from cards so it's tough to level her up, not to mention that she never deals extra damage to a specific class so neutral damage against everything is... not good, she's decent support, yes, it's just hard to place her in dedicated teams (But early into the game that's all you have)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 20, 2015, 08:24:20 pm
Got my first ascension with Kojirou. Level 1 Servants are so cheap to ascend. Why couldn't they do the same for level 4 and level 5 servants... Oh well, that Vitrification skill is quite good, instant stars plus I can get rid of mental debuffs. No more annoying poison or similar I guess. I should probably raise the level of that skill if it increases the amount of stars it gives you.

Perhaps I should also raise Mata Hari's level, I have her affection maxed and I can access her interlude. Would be a waste of Assassin EXP but oh well.

Edit: Kojirou, the hero of France. Tales about him will never be forgotten. For he was the only one alive against the mighty dragon Fafnir. And with three criticals in a row he decimated it.

Yeah, I just won that goddamn fight. It also helped that his NP was at lvl.4 and fully charged before the fight. Ffs I thought it was over when he was the only one standing. I'm so glad I ascended him. I'm so fucking glad.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 21, 2015, 01:28:14 am
Edit: Kojirou, the hero of France. Tales about him will never be forgotten. For he was the only one alive against the mighty dragon Fafnir. And with three criticals in a row he decimated it.
(http://i.imgur.com/bixrine.jpg)

Also those fucking enemy specific ascension items never fucking drop,I've been trying to get those bloody bones for 2 days now and they only dropped like once,jesus christ
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 21, 2015, 01:40:38 am
Drop rates have a really shitty low chance in this game unfortunately. People who managed to ascend some of the Servants to 3 or 4 have done so by buying Quartz and doing the missions repeatedly (and they spend a lot of them, enough to even get a 10 roll). I would highly suggest you not to do that. It's not worth it. Once you start buying, you get hooked at doing it all the time. As much as I like some of the Servants, it doesn't justify wasting that much money (3 euros for 4 Quartz is a ridiculous amount IMO) to get or ascend them.

So yeah, take a break and forget about farming for them.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 21, 2015, 02:12:55 am
So I finally got my first ascension for Caster Cu. His Arrow Evasion skill gives him dodge for 3 turns (plus defense up for 3 turns, but, uh, why, if he can dodge) 3 attacks, holy shit. And he's got crazy stats for a Caster. How come he's not much more popular ? Is it because he's the pity Servant you get for free right from the first "introduction" chapter ? Or just because France is infested with Rider-class dragons who kill him dead.
(also I noticed that his final profile blob unlock literally says "uh, his flaming giant cage NP out of nowhere, yeah, well, that's just because, uh, it's the NP for all celtic druids, so there, that's why he has that")
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 21, 2015, 02:54:44 am
Starting on 8/21 (JP time), until 8/27, all QP and EXP Card dailies will cost 1/2 the normal AP. (This does not apply towards the Master EXP) so grind away.

Well, now I feel really behind, I haven't ascended a single servant, but now that I'm done with all the free quests I can farm for statues to ascent some of these (and EXP cards to max out their level)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 21, 2015, 02:58:50 am
I've ascended a Spartacus, Kojirou, Caster Cu, and Arash (just because I had tons of Archer EXP I didn't know what else to do with and didn't feel like feeding to other classes, I'll do that when I have someone really worthy, like Lu Bu or Lancer Cu). 1* are easy to ascend, the cap is at lv20. Especially easy if that's all you have - I guess you don't really care when you have a few 3* Servants.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 21, 2015, 03:07:56 am
I'm just missing statues, I have little to none since I've been ignoring those dailies in favor of story+free quests.
I don't like the fact that I can't hoard all these EXP cards since they share inventory space with servants and we have a max of 50 slots (And buying more slots uses quartz) so I've been leveling other characters here and there.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 21, 2015, 03:14:39 am
I've ascended Caligula and Medusa,and Jing Ke is waiting for her 2nd ascension which she will get the second I get those damn bones.
Caster Cu isn't far off either,he just needs like 2 levels.
I might put some exp into Mozart as I like his look
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 21, 2015, 08:48:26 am
Yep, that 1/2 AP event is awesome, but apparently only works for events that give EXP only. Doesn't work for other kind of events (so yeah, no 20AP Master EXP quest). Still awesome though. Unfortunately I will ran out of QP with that many level ups LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 21, 2015, 09:46:16 am
I think they'll also boost the QP rewards.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 21, 2015, 10:14:10 am
Didn't know that. I thought the QP rewards were for those new events that give you Servants. Apparently the QP rewards will be huge, reaching the 100K QP. I really hope that's true, I need it.

Oh well, I am finally in ROOOOOOMAAAAAA! Having a Berserker sure helped in killing the dragons after killing Jeanne. Darius was the only one standing in the end LOL. Also, I have completed Mata Hari's interlude, and I have to say the recommended levels for the interludes are pure bullshit. Recommended level for her was 20. First fight was indeed easy, just human soldiers. Second fight was a bit hard, Berserker golems, but nothing I couldn't deal with. Guess what I encountered in the last fight. A lvl. 44  Assassin Ghost with 3 attacks per turn, a really annoying stun skill that it loved to spam (I'm so glad it missed) and its NP filling in just 3 turns. Yeah, um, next interlude will be done at +10 levels the recommended level. Oh well, free Quartz is always nice.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 22, 2015, 08:27:41 am
The new event is up, along with some nice QP rewards.
Maybe I'll be able to ascend St.George. Maybe one of these days I'll take my own advice and use quartz to refill AP or just use them for something (Maybe I'll do that on master EXP day)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 22, 2015, 09:05:47 am
My god, the 1/2 AP event is a god blessing, I swear. Being able to farm that much QP and EXP without having to spend 40 AP is amazing. I would rather prefer that they leave it that way forever.

Also, time for the Savior of France to obliterate those Riders again. I feel sorry for St. George.

Edit: OMG the QP rewards. 100K QP for the beginner quest and 400K for the mid quest. There goes my farming for QP LOL.

Edit2: So guys, I'm about to fight the Demon Flauros. Any advice as to what I should do for this fight? The only thing I know is that Saber, Archer and Lancer class deal 1/2 damage to it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 23, 2015, 01:48:31 am
I only remember bringing a berserker and support (Tanks, healers, proper use of evades and heals)

Speaking of tanks, St.George is a great choice for today's 40AP Master EXP daily :mink:

Edit: Wait don't you have Lancer Cu? Gae Bolg him and you're good. If the IK doesn't activate you can probably quit the app and start your turn again.
http://blogs.nrvnqsr.com/entry.php/3311-How-is-effect-success-rate-calculated

Aaand more datamined bits:
http://blogs.nrvnqsr.com/entry.php/3298-The-Weapon-Triangle-Spoiler-Version


I wonder if Beast = Monster
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 23, 2015, 03:45:22 am
There's no Monster, but clearly Flauros is Beast class.
I finally rolled a Lancer Cu, I'm ready to abuse the Gae Bolg luck check as needed, if I can build his NP gauge fast enough. I have a Kaleidoscope I can give him for boss fights (I'm finally in Orléans preparing for Jeanne Alter). And damn, apparently his second skill is the same Arrow Evasion as Caster Cu (stays active forever until it has dodged 3 attacks) so I'll try to Ascend him ASAP, that thing is so OP (except when the whole trio of enemies decide to maul him all together, it vanishes in a single turn, but at least it also raises defense).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 23, 2015, 05:42:07 am
Ah, I read in a different post that Monster was datamined as well, but I can't find the link at the moment. Are you sure Flauros is beast class? The multipliers don't quite fit, but I wouldn't know how else to categorize him.

It's finally taking me two 40 AP stages to level up, it's almost time to stop and focus on other dailies, 217 quartz so far, I'll start using them to farm exp cards and materials after tomorrow, I'll be happy if I reach a max of 80AP to make the most out of a quartz reload.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 23, 2015, 12:30:13 pm
Edit: Wait don't you have Lancer Cu? Gae Bolg him and you're good. If the IK doesn't activate you can probably quit the app and start your turn again.
http://blogs.nrvnqsr.com/entry.php/3311-How-is-effect-success-rate-calculated

I do have a Lancer Cu, but the main problem is that if I can raise his NP before he's utterly destroyed by Flauros. Perhaps I should ascend him first to get him Protection of Arrows, hopefully that makes a difference. I do have Ushiwakamaru for speeding NP raise, and Cu has an essence that raises the amount of NP gained (unfortunately no "start with X NP" available to me).

Or maybe I could use Sanson, his NP is also an IK and unlike Lancer Cu he's not weak against Flauros.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 23, 2015, 11:10:10 pm
Lancer Cu Appreciation Day (AKA Three Knights EXP Daily) carried mine all the way through his first ascension on his first day. With his Arrow Evasion and his stats and an NP boost CE, he is now my main.
Also I've finally finished France. On one hand I feel like I'm really late compared to everyone, but on the other hand, the daily quests are much more important, and if you have time to waste outside the daily, you should be doing the free quests to gather up the Dragon Balls quartz and try some serious roll (if you ever hope to do a 40 roll to get real 4+* Servants...) So it makes sense IMO that the third chapter isn't coming out yet. It's been only three weeks, after all.
Well, that's only for people who don't pay their way through the game, of course. Let's not even talk about those people who have lv 80 Arturia / Altera / Heracles and final ascensions, just hope to catch one as support.

I do wonder if the dailies will stick to that format forever, though. After a while, unless you luck out on a bunch of gold EXP cards and serious high level ascension/skill up material, it stops making much of a dent in what you need, and it turns into typical farming for entire weeks nonstop (with terrible drop rates). Of course, that's pretty much the incentive to pay, but it's not really self-sustaining for a f2p...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 23, 2015, 11:58:12 pm
I think somebody mentioned that you need a total of 634 or close Gold EXP cards from the same class to max out a 5* Servant from lvl.1, if you were to use only Gold EXP cards. So they most likely will leave it that way, specially since there are some mentions of Grand Ascension for some Servants, and you'll most likely have to reach their max level with all ascensions. They gotta milk the players as much as possible, and as you've seen there's some crazy dudes doing that.

I wish I was as lucky as you to draw Lancer EXP cards. For some weird reason I'm only getting useless Archer cards when I have no Archers. UUUUURGH. And that low AP regeneration doesn't help... If you leave your Lancer as main I'll be borrowing it for the fight against Flauros if you don't mind.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 24, 2015, 12:00:55 am
I received a bunch of silver Lancer EXP cards but when I didn't or when I wanted to get past one more step, I just used some silver Archer and Saber cards. I'm trying to not, but it's not like I have anyone else to give them to ATM (except freakin' Arash). I'm not using up any gold cards beside Lancer, though, just in case I ever luck out on a good Saber or Archer.
As for Lancer, I only got his instant kill against mooks, I restarted the round a bunch of times against Jeanne Alter but never got it and had to do it the hard way. It was hard.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 24, 2015, 12:02:27 am
FINALLY got enough bones to ascend Jing Ke and am faced with the harsh reality that is the ammount of exp it takes to get someone over 40 a level up,jesus.
Ah, I read in a different post that Monster was datamined as well, but I can't find the link at the moment.
Monster is a class that is exclusive to Ryougi Shiki iirc...and Since we're getting Alter Egos from CCC I wouldn't be suprised if they threw in Arc and Shiki later on.
(except freakin' Arash).
Arash seems like a cool dudebro,too bad he has shitty stats.Also no archers here either,I just wanna draw Robin Hood,his NP is pretty damn good(Big damage and a poison effect)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 24, 2015, 12:07:13 am
People talk about the Monster class because someone thought it was found in the datamining, but it never was. And in spite of crossover prospects, I'm not expecting anything from Tsukihime or Rakkyou until after all the chapters are out. We don't even know how long the "secret" ones will last for, anyway. There are those that already have all their data, then there are those that have an artwork, voice actor etc., then there are those that have nothing but a name, and I wouldn't expect characters like Ishtar or Quetzalcoatl to pop up until the very end, so anyone else not in the data would come after that, I reckon.

The only reason to have Arash is to make use of the weakness triangle (and that's only when you know you're facing a really strong Saber), he has nothing else going for him. And then he kills himself, and I don't even think the damage is scaled per his remaining life. He could be a bit better if there was a way to build it up.
But after all, there's only like 3 Archers that you can draw so far, and one is 4*, so of course it's super rare.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 24, 2015, 03:49:25 am
I hope you're ready for the grind http://blogs.nrvnqsr.com/entry.php/3286-How-much-%28servant%29-XP-do-I-need-to-level

Anyways, I'm not playing in a very effective way, I'm leveling up everyone equally since my only 4* is Saber Lily, and you can't hoard EXP cards because of the 50 slot limit.
And yeah, I'm sure Delightworks wasn't expecting people to rush through content at this speed, not getting Okeanos right away is fine with me, I can try to finally get these cubes and hoard them since I won't be using them anytime soon.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 24, 2015, 08:53:36 am
Well, you can spend a quartz to increase your Servant/EXP limit by 5, same with the CEs, up to 250 if you need.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 24, 2015, 10:18:13 am
Anyways, I'm not playing in a very effective way, I'm leveling up everyone equally since my only 4* is Saber Lily, and you can't hoard EXP cards because of the 50 slot limit.
And yeah, I'm sure Delightworks wasn't expecting people to rush through content at this speed, not getting Okeanos right away is fine with me, I can try to finally get these cubes and hoard them since I won't be using them anytime soon.

I have not payed for any content, and never have refilled my AP with Quartz, and I reached the Flauros stage in less than a week. I do admit I've been lucky with the Servants draw but still, except for a few stages, the rest of them are really easy to beat. And if it's Sunday, if you combine it with the Master EXP you can even go even faster in progression. So yeah, I find it normal to beat the game that fast even without spending money. I mean, the Roma stages are so easy compared to France that until you reach Servant fights you won't even need more than 3 turns to beat one.

I suppose the reason the difficulty curve was so extreme in France with all the dragons was so people would take a lot more time to beat the game. I'm sure they weren't expecting Assassins to make the whole thing way too easy. Oh well, once I beat Flauros it will be time to ascend my Servants once and then get as many Quartz as possible from free quest stages. I don't want to overlevel myself for Okeanos honestly.

And ffs game, give me more Lancer EXP cards!!!!!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 24, 2015, 10:45:25 am
Who is your support unit? Because  if you have Jeanne or a friend with a high level servant then that's a way to kinda cheat the game (Kinda)
I think they should've made friend summons once a day to avoid this, because you can exploit the friend summon in an awful way, then again we're complaining about AP reload times and with a more normalized AP recharge we could've beasted through all the maps and dailies in record time so I don't know.

And yeah you can go with Da Vinci and expand your inventory size, I wouldn't be fine with spending premium currency to keep increasing my inventory size and keep hoarding EXP cards haha, perhaps later once I land a good servant.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 24, 2015, 11:14:31 am
It's either Lvl. 45 Arturia with Limited/Over Zero (if this guy even reaches the first Ascension OMG the damage her Buster attacks will do) or another Arturia Lvl. 50 with Hollow Magic. So yeah, I suppose it's kinda cheating LOL. Charisma boost + AoE Excalibur does make things easier. Honestly, I wasn't expecting them to befriend me, which I'm kinda surprised. But hey, I'm all about exploiting the system as much as possible if they allow me, that's the least they can do with their shitty AP regen and the high AP cost for the Daily Quest (even if right now it's 1/2 AP).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 24, 2015, 02:29:31 pm
It's free FP for them, that's why, I wouldn't mind free FP.


That's the deal though, they didn't plan the Friend system properly, it's so easy to abuse it and rush through the game, I started with a LV25 Jeanne and near the middle of France I got a Level 50 Vlad as support that made things mindlessly easy (As long as I keep him alive with tanks and Shielder) They really should've limited that to once per day (Like in FFRK) so you could try different people's support and whatnot. Oh well, I shouldn't complain, that helps me through Master EXP day a lot.
That is a good point though, screw the AP regen, might as well do what you can to make the most out of it. Too bad master EXP wasn't 1/2 haha, that would've been TOO GOOD.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 24, 2015, 03:21:55 pm
Or even easier, that you can only get as support Servants with less or equal level than your highest leveled Servant, to make it fair. I was going to say using Master XP as reference, but taking into account how easy it is to level it up with the Sunday daily, that's not really an option. Or set a max level in each scenario, and only let Servants with less or equal level than the limit appear in the list.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 24, 2015, 03:25:54 pm
Or even easier, that you can only get as support Servants with less or equal level than your highest leveled Servant, to make it fair.
Wow wow wow let's not get carried away. It would pretty much be useless once you start having more than one or two decent Servants. Support Servants are sometimes the only way to get past some particularly hard missions, especially the high level daily quests, and there would be no incentive at all to using support Servants with lower level than you have, beside the FP, but even gaining 25 a pop is pretty low, and that's assuming you actually friended them.
The most I'd imagine is something like "you don't get FP if you use a support that's much higher level than your best (except if you friended them)".
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 25, 2015, 08:32:19 am
Still, the amount of FP is so small that it wouldn't be worth it, really.
And the Shakespeare event is up, the maps are full of Lamias(Caster) so bring Riders.

Edit: Holy shit, Leonidas' Interlude is hard as hell. I had to fight three high level servants in a row, the last one being Herakles, it was so bad I had to use command seals, not even bringing tanks, support and a Lv50 Berserker helped.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 25, 2015, 04:09:48 pm
Interlude difficulty is pure bullshit, even the 1* Servants have really hard enemies to deal. I still remember d'Eon's interlude that I saw in Youtube. Just search for it. The whole fight is really hard to beat without CS. I don't understand why they are so annoyingly hard for no reason, seriously. I can understand for EMIYA since it boosts his NP damage a lot, but for just a free Quartz they have to be that difficult?

Oh, and I just beat Flauros, had to use CS because there's no way my Servants can take three AoE in a row, specially after being hit with a debuff defense skill. Now only Attila remaining... need to wait for the CS to recharge again urgh.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 25, 2015, 04:19:30 pm
I haven't done any of the Interludes yet, but it feels to me like a way to push for every Servant ; you wouldn't take on a Servant's last boss battle if that Servant is still at level 10 or so, it's a reward for completing / mastering that Servant (although I guess a simple reward of one quartz isn't worth that). I like that principle myself, it makes sure everyone can be relevant, like you can go to a high level with anyone. And it ties to that Servant's lore too, which shows that they're not just dumping anyone they can think of, they're actually digging in the actual myth.
Speaking of interludes, I checked out the Garden of Avalon short stories the other day and they're pretty cool, I hope they're included in the relevant Interludes (Lancelot Saber, Arturia Alter Lancer with Rhongomyniad etc.)

How many times does Flauros' AoE attacks hit in one go ? If it hits each Servant only once, Lancer Cu's or Caster Cu's Arrow Evasion would be golden against it.
edit - Youtube says it hits everyone just once, so yeah, both Cus get a free pass for 3 attacks.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 25, 2015, 04:56:50 pm
It hits once, but since he usually attacks three times in a row Protection From Arrows only usually lasts one turn, three at most if he spams his debuff or buff skills which is definitely a bad thing since if he can easily one-shot your Servant if it has accumulated enough debuff defense. Doesn't help the fact that he can easily crit you, and that Saber, Lancer and Archer are weak against all of its attacks. And you don't really want to waste it too much since you need to take into account that his NP is impossible to survive against unless you have something that makes you take 0 damage against it.

So let's resume all the crap he does:
- Takes 1/2 damage against the knight classes and double damage (Berserker as always does 1.5x) against non-knight classes. Does double damage to knight and half to non-knight (Berserker excluded). Keep in mind that non-knight classes tend to have low HP unless you have 4-5* Servants, so they really don't last more than 2-3 turns unfortunately (and less if you get a crit).
- Its normal attack is an AoE, and has a good chance of being a critical hit. Can easily spend a whole turn spamming only this attack.
- Has a skill that debuffs one Servant defense a lot and inflicts "Flame" status, which means they lose HP each turn. This starts accumulating with the amount of damage it does, which is not good (and unlike in Extra you will die, not stay at 1HP, if they do enough damage to kill you).
- Has a buff skill that is star related. I believe it either enhances its critical damage or increases the chance to get a critical. No idea unfortunately, I died the turn he used this so I don't know what it does.
- Impossible to survive its NP, hits multiple times with absurds amount of damage. You need a null damage skill to survive.

Good luck there pal.

---------------

Edit: And so, the game has decided I suffered enough and has finally given me an Archer in the free roll, Arash, in order to deal with Attila. Which I instantly ascended because I had plenty of Archer EXP that I didn't need at all. Hopefully with the event that will come soon I can upgrade its NP to lvl. 2 and turn his suicide attack into a huge amount of damage.

Edit2: Welp, Arash lasted two turns, so much for him. But still, I beat Rome. With only needing one CS to fully heal Saber, before I was forced to eat another NP I hit Attila with a beautiful Buster Brave Combo with Excalibur too. I pitied her. Now it's time to farm all Quartz from the free stages!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 26, 2015, 01:28:43 pm
From Beast Lair, REALLY GOOD NEWS! You probably saw it if you opened the game

Quote
Bow before the generosity of the King, is what it says!

Actually there's a lot of stuff.

The King will open his vault and give us a bunch of shit.

5* Gilgamesh also coming to gacha.

Mystery event on 9/4.

Holy fuck, that TM Ace FGO special CE is getting a huge upgrade. +1 FP -> +75

also, 10-roll gacha will be changed to give you at least one 3* or higher Servant.

AP RECOVERY TIME DECREASING TO 5 MINUTES

THANK YOU MY KING

This will take place in August 31st. Also, they extended the 1/2 AP Daily Quest Event.

-----

About the gifts we will receive from Gilgamesh vault, it's these ones:

① 10 Saint Quartz
② 3 summon tickets
③ 3000000 QP
④ 3 All-class 4* EXP cards
⑤ 3 HP up 3* Fou-kun cards, 3 ATK up 3* Fou-kun cards
⑥ Skill up materials: 15 All-Class Shiny Stones, 5 All-Class Magic Stones, 2 All-Class Hidden Stones, 1 Imperial Wrath of the Dragon, 1 Heart of the Barbarian God, 1 Legend Crystal
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 26, 2015, 04:35:33 pm
Holy shit,thats a lot of fucking stuff.
Also Gil being added to the Gatcha is great,he can go on the list of servants I'll never ever get
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 26, 2015, 06:44:27 pm
His skills are outstanding, both active and passive, and his stats are quite good too. He's the best Archer and probably one of the best Servants in the game, and taking into account that he's 5* he probably will be impossible to level up LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 27, 2015, 01:27:22 am
Apprently, Gilgamesh will only be available from 31st of August, 2015, 5:00AM to 9th of September, 2015, 13:59 PM.
Also the Half AP campaign has now been extended to the 3rd of September, 2015, 23:59 PM.

The AP recovery and 10x draw adjustments are permanent (Some people thought that those would only apply for Gilgamesh's campaign)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 27, 2015, 01:55:21 am
The AP recovery and 10x draw adjustments are permanent (Some people thought that those would only apply for Gilgamesh's campaign)
Oi,so a guaranteed 3* servant or higher will stay with us?Thats fucking neato.
I'm really glad they're trying to kick off the game with these events.

Also if any of you bastards manages to grab a Gil during the event make sure to brag here,although the chances of that seem pretty low.5* Gatcha being Under 1% chance is a bummer
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 27, 2015, 02:17:08 am
I have 250 stones. I'm ready. (I wanted to save them for the new batch of servants though)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 27, 2015, 10:18:00 pm
Oh wow, how much money did you spend in this game? That's a lot of Quartz.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 27, 2015, 11:30:40 pm
Absolutely zero, I never spend money on mobages.

Edit:
I completed main content, all the free quests,  intrludes, events, I got the 40 quartz from the start up campaign (I settled with my servant and never rerolled) and all the extra ones they gave us as compensation from the huuuuge maintenance, we just got extra ones from short maintenance here and there, daily login bonus, etc.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on August 28, 2015, 12:00:58 am
Neaaaaato.
I can't wait for Gilgamesh. He's practically my favorite servant next to Tamamo and Kojiro.

Also I just started Rome, it's pretty easy so far so there's nothing major to worry about for now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 28, 2015, 12:34:43 pm
sup, get your own Leonidas now.
Also speaking of Lancers, Benkei's interlude was also quite difficult, you fight Lancer Cu, Leonidas and Berserker Lancelot. I'm sure I only barely cleared it thanks to my support unit.

Edit: The second part was easy, it was full of Casters.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 28, 2015, 07:56:03 pm
Great, and I just recently ascended my Leonidas too. Boosting his NP will surely aid him a lot.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 29, 2015, 03:41:39 am
Yeah uh, I had to use a seal for his third interlude...
You fight Emiya, then Arturia and finally Gilgamesh, and since I wasted abilities trying to get to Gil he just Ea'd my entire party. Typical Gil.
I think my goal right no with the half AP campaign is to ascend everyone at least one level (So far I have Arash, Kojiro, Hassan, Darius, Mephistopheles, Leonidas and St.George), get the interlude for the quartz and then leave the character alone unless it's someone very useful/I like.

Also, I cleared the LV60 Shadow Herakles battle on Fuyuki and... after you clear it it unlocks three more stages haha. Yeah no, I'm not trying that again unless I land a 4*+ servant.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 29, 2015, 12:59:03 pm
Gilgamesh fight is pure bullshit for what I've seen in Youtube. He can even spend his entire turn boosting his NP bar, to the point that in the second turn you may even eat an Enuma Elish in your face. Go there with 3 CS or Quartz because it's a really bullshit fight.

Also, don't worry about that free quest in Fuyuki after beating Shadow Berserker, those battles only have skeletons, and they give a lot of Master EXP. Good place to grind if you don't have the Master Daily Quest available. They're easy to beat, believe me.

In my case, I want to ascend my Darius, Ushiwakamaru, Mephistopheles and d'Eon. So far, Koujirou, Mata Hari, Arash, Leonidas and Lancer Cu are all ascended. Maybe I can ascend all 1* Servants that I have too, they're easy to ascend and their Interludes are the easiest to beat, which will help me get extra Quartz.

Edit: Hey, did someone comment before that Leonidas FIRST fight in his interlude consists on a three-round battle against a Hassan, Robin Hood, and Siegfried? Because I sure as hell didn't know. Wow at this fight. I had to reload quite some times because Hassan kept instantly killing my d'Eon with his NP, and Siegfried threw me a Balmung at turn 2 because he spammed a skill that replenished one bar of his NP. I only won because of my awesome Lancer Cu and the support character.

Seriously, DW, debuff the goddamn interludes. Why are they so hard when there's no point for them in being like that?!

Edit2: And so I read that in the second fight a 100K Spartacus and a 120K Heracles awaits me. Followed in the third fight by high level ghosts.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

hahahaha

ha...

Oh well, let's go do another interlude!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 30, 2015, 01:22:24 am
I had to use two command seals for that Gilgamesh fight, it's okay though, I cleared it (And I'm trying to hoard more quartz, I wouldn't spend one to clear the quest!)

Really? I saw a 40 difficulty and lost interest in completing it but if it's just skeletons then it's doable. Shadow Herakles was incredibly difficult.

Basically yeah, you want to ascend 1* servants since it's so cheap (materials and EXP-wise) just to get the interlude and extra quartz (Plus it doesn't hurt to have some back up characters to counter certain classes)

About Leonidas' interludes... yep, I had to use one seal for that one, the second one is harder and the third one is full of ghosts but don't underestimate it, it's not easy despite the fact that it has no actual servants. I already cleared all of them but I had to waste seals.

Benkei's interludes were hard as hell too, I unlocked Darius and Hassan's but I don't plan to even try them until I get my seals back.


Oh also if someone added me recently, I accidentally deleted you since I was half asleep and I thought I was accepting a request, whoops. Feel free to add me again.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 30, 2015, 11:09:31 am
Hey guys, did somebody do the lvl 40 recommended quest in Rome? I really don't want to waste my AP unless I'm sure I won't encounter any bullshit enemy in that fight.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 30, 2015, 11:57:16 am
Not yet, it's still Master EXP day.
You can find the quest here maybe? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/edit#gid=0
If not I'll give it a try after grinding some more master EXP.


Also!
http://itsalmo.st/#giltime
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 30, 2015, 12:54:36 pm
I'm having an inner conflict myself. While I don't have enough Quartz for a 10 roll, I do have plenty for at least 6 rolls... yet I don't know if I want to waste it all, wait for that September 4th event just in case, or wait for the yet-to-come Servants that appeared in that TM-Ace magazine, in which most likely I will have plenty of Quartz with the daily login bonus...

Guess I will do the Friendship roll at least, and wait for others to comment about the chance of getting Gilgamesh. Should be 1%, but perhaps it's been boosted because he's a limited time event.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 30, 2015, 12:58:13 pm
10 rolls give you a guaranteed servant (Or rather, they will really soon) So you could keep working on free missions, getting daily login bonus and wait for that. I doubt I'll use all my quartz trying to get Gilgamesh but I'll definitely give it a try a couple of times.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 30, 2015, 01:15:37 pm
I suppose I should. Guess I will have to indulge myself with the Friendship rolls. I do want an assured 3* or more Servant if I want to waste all the Quartz.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 30, 2015, 02:24:40 pm
Quote
Notice of maintenance 8/31 AM2:00 ~ 5AM
Details
3 million user campaign update
Gilgamesh put in gacha for a limited time
Game updates AP/Magazine CE
For more details see what was posted on the 26th
Other updates
-Adding new servants and Craft Essence
-Adjusted QP drop
QP from monsters from Main/free quests by 10x
QP 5x increased from daily dungeons
2x rate increased for better drops in QP daily
2x rate increased for better EXP cards in EXP daily
-Battle Adjustments
NP cards can now obtain critical stars
-Quest difficulty reduced
Main quest has some of its areas made easier
Some free quests have been made easier
-System adjustments
Changed the amount of items you can have in your giftbox from 100 to 200
Changed the amount of friend requests you can have at a time from 10 to 20
-Fixed typos in main story and system messages
-Provide more detail on saint quartz summon
-Compensation 4 Saint Quartz
-Distribution period September 1st 4am to February 29th 2016
>NEW SERVANTS AND CES
YES
>Changed typo in story
I bet they fucking fixed the "Regend of the Samurai"
>Better drops
YAAAA
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 02:29:43 pm
"Regend" was fixed at least a week and a half ago already.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 30, 2015, 02:32:23 pm
Yeah, I did Kojiro's interlude a while ago and it said "Legend" so they're additional typos here and there.

It doesn't seem like they have implemented the guaranteed 3* or more servant adjustment yet? Oh well I'll enjoy those benefits after waking up, half AP AND recharge time, 2x rate increase for EXP AND the 1/2 AP per EXP quests we have right now? YES.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 30, 2015, 06:35:01 pm
You wanted Gil? Too bad, it's maintenance time!

Jokes aside, my god, if this new update brings Asfolto and Jacky, I'm so rolling the moment we get out of maintenance time. Guess I also have 7 rolls in the Quartz gatcha because of the downtime LOL.

And yeah, that Legend was fixed a long time ago, I believe when a lot of people (not only the ones that just paid through the game) started getting into the interludes. I remember how hard I laughed when I read it. Japan and its Engrish moments LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 06:48:37 pm
You wanted Gil? Too bad, it's maintenance time!
Uh ? That's pretty obvious, there's never anything new without a maintenance first, the maintenance is done specifically to add the new stuff. This one is planned to last from 2 to 5AM (JST).
Think of those guys who come to work on Monday morning at 2AM.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 30, 2015, 06:51:06 pm
I already knew that, though some people seem not to have expected it. What I was not expecting was the new Servants (and CE) nor the 2x Gold Rank EXP drop rate increase.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 30, 2015, 11:01:48 pm
33 gifts holy shit
ALSO ITS TIME
Good Luck Fam

ROLLED MOTHERFUCKING PROTO CU LETS GO
FUCK 2 PROTO CUS
Make that 3
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 11:07:33 pm
Hahaha the AP timer is 5 minutes instead of 10 now but the AP counter is stuck at 0 even when the timer resets. New maintenance (plus apology quartz) in 5, 4, 3... I hope no one tries to use up a quartz to refill the gauge because it looks like it's hardcoded set at 0 for some reason right now. That's some major fuck-up, coding-wise.
ROLLED MOTHERFUCKING PROTO CU LETS GO
I'm interested to know if he's any different from regular Lancer Cu.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 30, 2015, 11:12:38 pm
Since I had full AP I can farm the Knight EXP. Gotta do it before it goes into maintenance again.

Also, the three tickets granted me a Crystal Horse, fucking Rin's pendant and an Imaginary Around. An Imaginary Around! I'm so glad I at least got something good. I'm so glad.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 30, 2015, 11:14:50 pm
I don't know why the game keeps giving me Boudica and Shota Xander dammit
Also got Medea and 3 new CEs Bazzet,Caren(I think) and some sort of sea thing
Edit:Its the sea tha Moses split isnt it?
ROLLED MOTHERFUCKING PROTO CU LETS GO
I'm interested to know if he's any different from regular Lancer Cu.
IIRC Proto Cu has a fucking crazy Gae Bolg that he had to seal away
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 30, 2015, 11:22:04 pm
The third skill Prototype Cu unlocks, frankly, is only useful against Beast type like Flauros. Lancer Cu from FSN has a much better ability that allows him to heal himself. Combining it with Battle Continuation and the Protection From Arrows makes him last a lot on his own.

Apart from that, no idea about his base stats. If he has higher stats then perhaps he may be a better option than Lancer Cu.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 11:38:23 pm
IIRC Proto Cu has a fucking crazy Gae Bolg that he had to seal away
That's in Prototype, but according to the pastebin of the leak, the NP is the same - high damage, def down, chance of instant death. It doesn't list the skills though. But it sounds like it's not very interesting.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 30, 2015, 11:41:27 pm
Sorry, let me correct myself. I got a Limited/Zero Over. How did I even mistake the two LOL? So yeah, Buster damage will benefit my d'Eon, specially with her new boosted ATK.

And yeah, Prototype Cu is a slightly worse version of Lancer Cu apparently. If you already have a Lancer Cu, it's not really worth getting. Caster Medea is definitely worth getting, and she's 3*, so I will rely on Friendship roll for her.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 11:53:09 pm
Oh, from my tickets + friend rolls + a 40 quartz roll, I got shit with one small exception - Medea, then ROMA and a bunch of shit CEs (one gold - young Sakura).
... But my "Beginning of the journey" CE (the one from TMAce) is bumped from +1 FP to +75, so I get 100 for every battle where I bring a friend. I'll be over here farming Friend Points now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 30, 2015, 11:54:59 pm
Use my d'Eon if you don't mind. I just equipped her with the Limited/Zero Over card and she's lvl. 34 (and still raising using the Daily EXP), so it will definitely help you. And I definitely need those friend points to get a good Caster and Archer.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 11:58:57 pm
Man, I have this guy with a lv50 Arturia Alter with a Kaleidoscope for hard Dailies, with my FSNCu + Kaleidoscope, I wipe out bosses with an Excalibur Morgan - Gae Bolg - whoever is my third NP combo. The alternative is a lv 45 Herc with Nine Lives.
But I make sure to use friends with lower ranks for story and free quests, so it'll come in due time.

Oh hey, I spent a quartz for refill and now the timer does refill my AP, good. There will still be a maintenance coming though, for those who don't spend a quartz and are stuck at 0.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 31, 2015, 12:09:32 am
I didn't experience that error though, guess it happens to some people, most likely the server that can't handle so many people connected. Not sure if that will warrant an apology quartz or not, hopefully it does.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 31, 2015, 12:29:32 am
Yeah, still glitching crazy.
I fed Medea a few EXP, leveled her up ; went to do an EXP daily, got a bunch of Lancer EXP, went back to the Servant strenghtening screen, and Medea was still Lv1. I try to level her up, an error pops up saying I don't have that Servant. My Lancer EXP cards aren't here. Oh, and my AP gauge dropped to 20 when it was over 60 (out of 84).

... And after restarting for the 5th time, everything is back to normal. Wut. Except my AP and my Lancer EXP. ... Oh wait, my Lancer EXP is reappearing little by little, what the fuck.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 31, 2015, 01:00:46 am
Okay here's the deal.
The servers are lagging, if it looks like your AP is stuck at 0 or you rolled and then everything disappears, it's still there, it's just that the server hasn't updated your profile.
It happened to me once. ALSO.
(http://i.imgur.com/aza6rtj.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on August 31, 2015, 01:07:35 am
Screw you I wanted a Lancelot.
Also did they increase the chance to get the new Servants or something?I can't believe I pulled 5 copies of new servants with the servant pool being 50 something

I guess Proto Cu will do.I don't think I'll be using Medea that much tho :/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 31, 2015, 01:10:50 am
Yeah, the gacha page says there's an up rate.

Also, psh... I deserve that good roll, my first one was absolute garbage, just look at this.
(http://i.imgur.com/O4dVZ0q.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 31, 2015, 07:51:39 am
At least you got a Lancer Cu, which is one of the best Lancers in the game, so be happy about that fact. You'll see how good he is when you ascend him the first time.

Also, it went unnoticeable because of the Gil event, but just to remind you, Arash event is now available. You can get your hands on an Arash, 2 Quartz, 500k QP and one ascension material, so don't forget about it.

And I finally managed to ascend d'Eon... so many EXP cards needed... now it's the turn to ascend my Darius.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 31, 2015, 08:24:44 am
The problem is that I have way too many of every other class except Archers and Sabers. I need Archers badly, I wouldn't mind landing an Emiya or Gilgamesh.

I already got Arash's NP to LV4... might as well get it to 5 and go out with a blast I guess.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on August 31, 2015, 10:05:50 am
Also, it went unnoticeable because of the Gil event, but just to remind you, Arash event is now available.
It's not that no one noticed because Gil, it's that it wasn't the case. Those "1 star Servant" events reset at 1 or 2PM (still JST) because the first one started at that time, not at midnight. Basically you caught it right when it started.

I got curious about buying quartz and you need around 40 bucks to get a 10 roll (so 8 Black Keys + pendants and 1 Servant), this is ridiculous. edit = misremembered the numbers, but it's still bad
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 31, 2015, 01:08:41 pm
Hahaha, Arash kills himself when he uses his NP in the event quest. They didn't remove that for when he's a boss. Easiest Servant ever LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 31, 2015, 01:14:07 pm
Yeah, just turtle it out and make sure you have either a dodge, a back up member or defense buffs stacked.
I wish I could boost his NP gain with my skills to make that even faster.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 31, 2015, 01:21:44 pm
His NP fills in three turns only, so it doesn't take that long for him to suicide fortunately. I really hope in the Saber event it's Gilles using his worthless NP so he dies even faster. And with the amount of Gilgamesh appearing in the Friend list any Saber that appears will be raped.

Speaking about Gilgamesh, his critical star generation is insane (I tried a Friend one, I'm not that lucky). Arts and Quick attacks can grant a max of 5 stars, while Buster a max of 4. Wow at the percentage of criticals one can have. I had three attacks at 100% chance and the others at 50% or close, since I combined it with other star generation skills and had a critical chain in the previous round. And he has Charisma. And I read that at lvl. 20 he has 7000 atk or close. Number one broken Servant is here.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 31, 2015, 02:04:37 pm
I think with the Lancelot I drew, I'm ready to make a REALLY good combination of him, Kojiro and St.George.

I got the 600% Critical craft essence (Bazett) so that goes on Lancelot, then Kojiro get the Crit Generation CE (Tokiomi) and St. George Just tanks.

...Then I'll be getting 100% Critical Buster Brave chains with Lancelot (If I get lucky), OH YES. I'm definitely spending quartz on Berserker EXP day to level him up.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 31, 2015, 02:33:39 pm
Yeah, I just saw you putting Lancelot as your Leader with that essence. I thought Lancelot wouldn't be a good Servant because he was more focused on Quick attacks rather than Buster attacks, but I was wrong. Heracles is still the best though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on August 31, 2015, 03:44:56 pm
Hahaha, Arash kills himself when he uses his NP in the event quest. They didn't remove that for when he's a boss. Easiest Servant ever LOL.

Just had this happen to me doing the lvl. 30 quest. Had three Lancers out with Continue the Fight activated, couldn't stop blinking in disbelief.

Man, am I the only one that thinks ascended Leonidas is super distracting?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on August 31, 2015, 04:14:02 pm
Nah, his head is on friggin' fire and the shape of his cape is too super hero-y. But then the third ascension also feels wrong, he's just red haired Cu..
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on August 31, 2015, 10:11:20 pm
And so I gained tons of Quartz because of the problems with the AP not regenerating and more, allowing me to reach 40 Quartz. So I decided to roll. Got another Limited/Zero Over, two Medea, Caster and Saber Gilles and Proto Cu (plus garbage CE). Oh well, at least now I have a good Caster. Now I'm missing a good Archer... Hopefully when Euryale is released she's a good 3* Archer.

And now my Ushiwakamaru has more clothes! I mean, she has ascended and now has Charisma skill! Yay! Medea, your turn.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 01, 2015, 12:38:46 am
Medea is one of the best 3* servants and casters so that's not bad at all (Level up her skill to Lv4 or so and she'll practically get full NP bar in one turn)

Also I refuse to ascend Boudica.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 01, 2015, 12:41:50 am
Just ascend her once to be able to access her Interlude. It's one battle only, you do it, get the Quartz, and forget she ever existed. That, or ascend her three times so she turns visually passable.

And yeah, OMG Medea is able to boost her NP even higher than Andersen. Her NP is also good, so no problem in that.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 01, 2015, 12:46:37 am
At least give Boudicca a skirt.

How does Medea's skill work ? You cast it once, it greatly increases the NP gain, kinda like Formalcraft, but for one turn only ? Or does it last a certain number of turns ?
I'm reaching a point where I'm close to the max level I can get for my top Servants, soon I'll have to hunt for material for their second ascension. In the mean time I'll push up my other Servants to get their Interlude. But that's only if I have enough space in my inventory, what with those hundreds of gold Saber and Archer EXP cards I don't have anyone to use on !
Oh, a Proto-Cu in the friend rolls. At least there's still that, I could only do one quartz 10 roll, it's so hard to build back up enough quartz - but at least I probably won't spend any more quartz to refill the AP gauge with the doubled rate, that's a relief. I already forgot if it's going to stick for good, it's not just for the Gil campaign, is it ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 01, 2015, 12:49:08 am
It works exactly as it works with Andersen. You use it, and it fills your NP bar a certain amount. For Andersen, it filled 50% of the bar, and it was High-Speed Incantation B. Medea has A rank, so it should increase it even more. That's why a lot of people liked Andersen support, since he could boost your entire party the first turn with the right preparations.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 01, 2015, 12:51:28 am
I don't have use Andersen. Hang on, it raises everyone's NP gauge ? What do you mean by boosting the entire party ? Or is that the effect of his NP which he can easily get ? edit - oh right, you mean boost the party as in random buffs for everyone, is what the NP does, okay.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 01, 2015, 01:03:54 am
Quote
Caster: Medea
Max Stats: HP 8643 ATK 7418
NP: Rule Breaker // Single-target Damage, Removes all enemy buffs. Recharge Self NP. Overcharge increases recharge rate. [ARTS]
Skill 1: High-Speed Incantation A, Increases NP gauge by 80%.
Skill 2: Golden Fleece, Heals Medea for 500. Yay. (The text says she "touches the Fleece lovingly." Touch Fluffy Fleece.)
Attack Pattern:
Cards: Q A A A B
Comes with Territory Creation A and Item Creation A.
Can you see how she gains massive NP? Between her skillset, Territory Creation A and being able to Brave Arts Chain....

So NP spam. Her first skill charges the meter hugely (80% or more depending on her level) and the NP charges it by 25% afterwards. So slap a Kaleidoscope on he, pop NP, pop skill, pop NP again. and you'll still have 1/4 NP meter after that!

About Boudica, I was mostly kidding (As far as Riders go I'm leveling up Blackbeard right now, but  she's probably next)

...EXP daily isn't giving me Berserker cards and I NEED them badly.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 01, 2015, 03:26:01 am
The fact that all my servants are now getting just a +10/20 stat increase when I level em up is really annoying,damn these growth curves.
Also I have been farming golem crystals for a week now and not a single drop.And I need 6 more of them.
The fact that they only appear in like 2 levels doesnt help either
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 01, 2015, 11:21:27 pm
Quote
Caster: Medea
Max Stats: HP 8643 ATK 7418
NP: Rule Breaker // Single-target Damage, Removes all enemy buffs. Recharge Self NP. Overcharge increases recharge rate. [ARTS]
Skill 1: High-Speed Incantation A, Increases NP gauge by 80%.
Skill 2: Golden Fleece, Heals Medea for 500. Yay. (The text says she "touches the Fleece lovingly." Touch Fluffy Fleece.)
Attack Pattern:
Cards: Q A A A B
Comes with Territory Creation A and Item Creation A.
Can you see how she gains massive NP? Between her skillset, Territory Creation A and being able to Brave Arts Chain....

So NP spam. Her first skill charges the meter hugely (80% or more depending on her level) and the NP charges it by 25% afterwards. So slap a Kaleidoscope on he, pop NP, pop skill, pop NP again. and you'll still have 1/4 NP meter after that!

About Boudica, I was mostly kidding (As far as Riders go I'm leveling up Blackbeard right now, but  she's probably next)

...EXP daily isn't giving me Berserker cards and I NEED them badly.

Wow at those skills. 500HP is not really that much, but I suppose for a Caster it's plenty since they usually have low health. That NP increase though. First turn NP with low rank CE is not a dream anymore.

Anyway, I completed quite a bit of Interludes that I managed to unlock (except d'Eon, which sports a 900K HP ghost, no kidding there with that health value, I need to spam instant death NP from Cu). Darius, Sanson and Mozart's interlude are easy, I'm surprised that Darius got only skeletons in his interlude. Leonidas was as bad as I read, second fight was ROME, Spartacus and Heracles, while third round was full of ghosts. Had to waste 2 CS ffs. I'm so glad of my support Arturia AND for Leonidas using his taunt skill. I'm so glad.

So yeah guys, if you want to farm Quartz using interludes, use that as reference. Lancer Cu's interlude is normal difficulty (full of Homunculus that are easy to kill IMO), same as Mata Hari (only Mata Hari's third battle may be a bit challenging if you're not prepared, it's a ghost team). Dragonslayer is normal difficulty too (IMO the demon was easy to handle since I didn't bring Koujirou in the fight LOL).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 02, 2015, 03:41:45 am
I ascended way too many characters and ran out of Class Pieces (Not to mention that I used four quartz yesterday for AP regen) so I have to start farming those. Too bad those dailies are 40AP, ugh (I just need four Berserker pieces and one Dragon Scale for Lancelot)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 02, 2015, 11:15:06 am
I'm so jealous you have a Lancelot. His star generation is quite good, specially when you use his NP against a group of 3. I saw a video in Youtube in which they reached 64 stars or close when they used it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 02, 2015, 01:43:28 pm
I juuuust got him to 50 too, I wonder how many quartz will that Dragon scale cost me...
And I was lucky to get two in the same draw so I can get his NP to 200%. His abilities weren't working properly though, there was a small two hour maintenance (So we're getting more consolation quartz tomorro) and now Focus AND Bazett's CE work properly. So now he can hog all the stars (Or at least most of them)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 02, 2015, 02:56:59 pm
S.D. you're earning a bunch of friend points from me,holy shit.
I just can't avoid picking the fucking minigun knight everytime I see him on the support list.

Also,holy shit they werent kidding when they said they buffed up the money drop rates,this is nuts
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 02, 2015, 03:07:06 pm
Just wait until I get that Dragon Scale haha.

It's a decent NP, it boosts damage and gives a bunch of stars, pairing him with Sasaki means TONS of stars too.
I still don't know which CE should I equip on him, he's a Berserker who deals even more massive damage with crits so Bazett + focus works really well, but the Sakura CE gives him a bunch of NP meter and I can't say no to the mini gun.

I'm done farming Berserker pieces, that was painful and I'm down to 130 Quartz haha whoops (I leveled up once for an extra AP refresh too)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 02, 2015, 04:29:57 pm
I would go with something that boosts his crit damage, seeing as how much he loves to generate stars. A Berserker doing extra crit damage means whatever you hit is dead for sure, no need to do a Buster Brave Combo.

Edit: Medea looks much much better without the hood. That's a good extra reward for ascending her. And yeah, I wasted Gold Knight EXP on her, instead of other characters. Why? Because the other possibility was Saber Gilles (which I guess I'll do now since he has an Interlude available in France). I don't want to level up the other Servants I have since I don't want to do Okeanos overleveled (top is Lvl 30 unless it's a Gold Servant).

And seriously, Saber Gilles sucks. Level 16 and with stats that are equal to a 1* Servant. No wonder people doesn't want him. I wonder if he's the type that gets better stats at late levels, but honestly, he's really not worth using for what I'm seeing.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 03, 2015, 12:17:00 am
He can hardly generate his own stars, he only has one Q and sure his NP is Q as well but he only has one A so charging NP (Unless paired with the right support) takes forever, and don't even think about getting it to 200%.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3fuhiz/the_modern_magus_magazine_notable_servants_and/?sort=new

So he needs someone like Kojiro generating stars and then he can use Focus (Plus additional assistance by the Bazett CE) to hoard most of the stars the next turn (I've been doing 30K+ with a critical Buster)

OH BOY, Saber Gilles? Get ready to use seals for his interlude. The first two were easy but that LV40 Shadow Saber from the third one is TANKY AS HELL, not to mention all the ghosts before her that will make you waste your abilities.
I think his growth curve is the same as Saber Lily, and Lancelot, really really sucks early and you'll start seeing some massive stat boosts after LV30ish or so.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 03, 2015, 05:57:37 pm
And the wonderful 1/2 AP offer is now over... over... over... Yeah, it's easy to notice the difference, one battle and that's it, you cannot grind anymore, at least at my level, as I have 71AP. I hope they repeat it again in the future.

And when will the special event start, btw?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 03, 2015, 06:40:48 pm
On the 4th, so if it's not up yet, it's probably like the class events, at 1 or 2PM JST.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 04, 2015, 12:19:33 am
I literally got no servants except for one and it was before the event.
All I got were some craft essences that I already have + some new ones
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 04, 2015, 12:26:34 am
You have as much luck as Irish Lancers do.

There will be a new event starting soon so I hope we will get a chance at summoning something cool again.Also get that summon ticket from the new Event.

Inb4 the Secret F/GO event is so secret that we dont even know that its already in the game.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 04, 2015, 01:42:54 am
Well, a leak says:
(http://i.imgur.com/BTsI0au.jpg)

Also, does anyone have a reverse dragon scale? I've been farming for one all day UGH, I just need one more to ascend Lancelot again. Jesus Christ this drop rate is awful. I wish we could trade items haha, even though that would break the game.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 04, 2015, 11:32:27 am
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/bfue6l
The announcement is up, on the 7th after 3PM (maintenance from 2 to 3) the king will grant you one 4* Servant out of those listed :
Emiya, Siegfried, d'Eon, Herc, Elizabeth, Carmilla, Stheno, TamaCat, Marie Antoinette, Martha.
I'm not sure I get it, but apparently you won't be able to use the code redeem system inside the game, you'll have to go through the one on the site together with your friend ID (I already forgot but I think it was the same for the "beginning of the journey" CE you can get from the TMAce)
I think that weird phrase says the code input section in the game will be ditched in favor of the site, so pick a code from the site then enter the code in the designated page. This also applies to the other codes (Arturia Lily and the CE)

Lots of people are going to get Carmilla.
Edit - hang on... It's not explicit but there's one sentence that implies you can pick the one you want (a single "think about who you want to summon" in the middle of the page). Wut.

I guess I'll be going with Herc, then. I really need an Archer or Saber, but Emiya, d'Eon and Siegfried all have super lame stats and/or skills for 4* (d'Eon isn't even an attack), and Hercserker is TSUYOI.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 04, 2015, 11:56:05 am
If that's the case I'll either get Emiya or Siegfried since I need a good Archer and/or saber. I was going to mention the severe lack of casters but there's no good 4* casters (Waver..), no lancers either but there's no 4*+ lancers whoops, Bathory is a lancer..
Only one archer though? I guess the other one is Gil and that would be silly, and then Atalanta (They probably don't want to give away the new servants)
Tamamo and Herakles are pretty good choices too, too bad I'm too invested in Lancelot right now (10 quartz gone down the drain today and not a single scale drop)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 04, 2015, 11:58:11 am
And in this moment is when I laugh at the fact that some people has wasted tons of money to get a specific Servant, for TM and DW to offer them for free.

Yeah, you will be able to choose the Servant you want. I can pass without Carmilla, Hassan is a really good Assassin with instakill, good skills and good star generation. The same for Emiya, will have to bear with it until I get a Robin Hood, which is also a good Archer. Eliza is outclassed by Lancer Cu IMHO, after how many times he has saved my ass with Battle Continuation and Protection from Arrows. From the list, Saber, Rider and Berserkers are the most recommended ones to get since the 3* Servants or less are outclassed by them.

And just to warn you, Siegfried is meant to be a tank, same as d'Eon. d'Eon has taunt and can dodge for an entire turn. Siegfried has better stats, has a healing skill and his NP is all party damage (plus one of his skills boost NP generation). You decide. Personally, I'm stuck with Marie, since she's an awesome support, or Heracles, which is a monstruosity in terms of damage output.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 04, 2015, 12:13:46 pm
Oh I know that, and I need a Tank since I'm running a Berserker in my team OR someone who generates star or NP (I'm trying to ascend Kojiro though so maybe I'll settle for Siegfried and stop trying to level Saber Lily after getting her interlude)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 04, 2015, 12:27:09 pm
Try Ushiwakamaru for NP generation, can grant that buff to all the party plus her first ascension skill is Charisma, which will certainly benefit your Berserker. Don't use the ascension materials on Saber Lily if you won't have enough for Siegfried LOL. Is her interlude available in the game already btw?

I think I'm going to go for Marie. I have two friends in my list with an Heracles equipped with Kaleidoscope. There's really no point getting him as Servant when I can easily use one as support.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 04, 2015, 12:50:52 pm
Farming for first ascension materials isn't that bad.... the second one though... ugh..
I'll probably get an Emiya then, I don't have Robin Hood and Arash is my only archer so... yeah..

I'm sure Saber Lily's interlude is in Orleans, so that would be an extra quartz I can use for.. AP reload and farm more stuff that won't ever drop.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 04, 2015, 01:28:52 pm
It's a pity I wasn't able to get a Lily code, it would be one extra Quartz I could get. Even if as a Servant she's not that good.

I hope in the future they release maps or events to make 2nd and 3rd Ascensions less painful than they are. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 04, 2015, 02:08:33 pm
About Siegfried, I don't need a tank, I have these two guys who never ever die (I'll probably ascend ProtoCu too to make a trio of unkillable Cus). Seriously, I must have lost like one of them in one 40AP battle once since I've had these two. I might go for Emiya since I have two Herc supports and SD's Zerkalot.
If I could friend roll either a Robin or a Lu Bu, that'd resolve my dilemma, but I'm only ever getting 1* EXP. It's a change from 15 Mozarts and Spartacuses, sure, but...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 04, 2015, 03:14:40 pm
I have ZERO Mozarts or Erics, tons of Kojiros, Arash, Spartacuses...


...Aaaand I give up, I spent a grand total of 15 quartz on regen today (Plus some level ups for stamina regen), I killed a grand total of 15 giant dragons but zero scales, I'll give it a try on Sunday's daily, it'll hurt to miss the master EXP daily but I can't level up Lancelot anymore without the scale, the abysmal drop rates are so bad, I really wanted to get him to 60 :(

Hopefully getting the Assassin monument for Kojiro will be easier... I need to work on interludes to recover all my quartz.

As for Saber Lily, apparently she's pretty decent, it's just that her growth curve is very slow, but he starts to get massive stats bonus at higher levels.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 04, 2015, 04:54:12 pm
FUCK. D'EON. INTERLUDE

30 minutes in and I still can't kill that 900K ghost, I'm at 500K and I have already wasted 3CS. Ffs who thought that was a good idea...

Edit: And now I am trapped in NP hell, aka repeating until Gae Bolg decides to kill it.

Edit: Fuck it, I give up. I'm not doing that quest until all my Servants are able to remove 50K each turn. Or until they lower its health.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 04, 2015, 05:56:58 pm
Joan and Andersen combo do wonders in that fight with their amazing support NPs.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 04, 2015, 06:02:12 pm
I don't have those two unfortunately, and for some reason people seems to dislike putting Jeanne in their friend list for some weird reason.

Seriously, not even the final bosses in each scenario have that much health. It's just an Interlude that doesn't even boost its NP, why is it so stupidly hard? I have the feeling that they wanted to make it 90K but an extra 0 went here by mistake.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 05, 2015, 12:50:06 am
Don't worry, I had to waste 3 CS in Shakespeare's interlude as well (And this is only the second stage!), this Chimera was THE WORST and the trash mode also did insane damage (The black cat people)
So much for recovering all the quartz I wasted yesterday haha.
I guess I'll do LV40 free missions instead, these have to be easier than interludes, seriously.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 05, 2015, 01:00:41 am
Finally gutted Flauros and Altera. When everyone in your party is at lv40, it isn't as hard as it sounded a week or two ago (I only lost CasCu on Flauros and FSNCu on Altera once each).
Ah, I still have to ascend a lot of people once to get their interludes... All those useless guys like Mata Hari, Boudicca and co.

Rome ending scene said:
Dr. Roman : You guys must be sore, you should try getting a massage some time.
[...]
Mash : hey senpai, you want to try a massage like the doctor said ? I've trained a little.
... Senpai ? Where are you going ? ... What, you want to do the massage in your bedroom ? *blush*
*scene end*
*Mash has ascended*
Oh, okay, glad to see Type-Moon hasn't lost track of what's important in their games ! (I wonder if this will affect her in a similar way as it did Emiya in Fate/Extra, when he was all brooding and dismissive and snappy at you at every mistake with short one-liners as usual, until Rin "fixed" him and he was all happy praising you on every little treasure drop and very talkative)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 05, 2015, 09:11:36 am
Speaking of which, for the people who can't read Japanese, there's also this
http://fgo-story.byethost18.com/?ckattempt=2#player
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 05, 2015, 10:54:58 am
Wow, he's fast. It hasn't even passed one month since that website opened.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 05, 2015, 11:57:27 am
Also, this:
http://imgur.com/a/Hj6JX

I really hate how the messed up Lancelot haha, the first ascension only removes the haze, the second one doesn't even give him Arondight even though the sword is in the card.
Goddammit.

Seeing the sprites up close is sorta nice though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 05, 2015, 12:31:19 pm
Did someone hack through the game? There's even Servants that you can't get at this moment at their last form.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 05, 2015, 12:34:22 pm
Yes, that happened about two or three days after it was released.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 05, 2015, 12:36:18 pm
Someone just digged through the .apk file and extracted that in the same way the card art was extracted.
I haven't even seen Jack the Ripper in-game (I've seen Kintoki in the 4-class ascension daily though)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 05, 2015, 02:34:18 pm
Pulled a Zhuge Liang once and he's the only five star servant I have.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 05, 2015, 05:39:16 pm
Good support you have there. Wish I managed to get some of the Arturia versions (Normal, Alter or Nero).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 05, 2015, 06:46:34 pm
Also how do I do interludes for specific servants?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 05, 2015, 06:58:34 pm
Most of them need one ascension (some need a second ascension), plus finishing the chapter it's located in (Orléans or Rome). Not everyone has their interlude available yet. You want anyone in particular ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 05, 2015, 07:02:09 pm
Most of them need one ascension (some need a second ascension), plus finishing the chapter it's located in (Orléans or Rome). Not everyone has their interlude available yet. You want anyone in particular ?

Well it was mostly for Sasaki.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 05, 2015, 07:16:49 pm
Ascend him once and I think he needs like 3 or so bond level with you.
Then you can find him in Rome,IIRC
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 05, 2015, 08:46:31 pm
Most of them need one ascension (some need a second ascension), plus finishing the chapter it's located in (Orléans or Rome). Not everyone has their interlude available yet. You want anyone in particular ?
And and like Erroratu said, they require different bonding levels.
Some have more than one too (In case it wasn't implied), I don't know if some characters have three but it wouldn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 06, 2015, 12:34:45 am
Warning for Sasaki's interlude, do not bring him (or in fact any Assassin) to the third fight. They're going to get raped by the Caster Demon that awaits there. It's not a hard fight unless the majority of your team is formed by Assassins.

Edit: Last event to get two Quartz, ascension material and a Summon Ticket. Berserker based this time, with surprisingly a 3* Servant, Lu Bu, as the opponent. Be really ready for the 30AP fight.

And DO NOT FORGET about the free 4* Servant you can get tomorrow, and for a lot of people here, today because of timezone difference. I will try inputting more than one code in case TM and DW fucked up and you can put more than one code.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 06, 2015, 12:19:15 pm
Yeah, he was pretty tanky in the 30AP quest despite the fact that he's a berserker. Oh well not every boss battle will be as easy as Arash's.
He's a pretty decent Berserker too (In case all you have are either Asterios or Spartacus)

So uh I've been keeping track of the ascension material drop rates and so far, I've fought a good 100 giant dragons at the end of dailies, spent 44 quartz on AP reload (I get two runs a and a half with a reload since I can only find those in the 40AP dailies two days a week) and.... NOT. A. SINGLE. REVERSE. DRAGON. SCALE. And this daily isn't doing anything for me anymore, I already maxed out bond level with ALL MY SERVANTS.

I just need one to ascend Lancelot, goddammit. I was actually hoping the berserker daily to hand us a reverse dragon scale, but we got a page I most likely not use in a while. Oh well.

Edit:
30 Dragons and 11 quartz later, no scale. Fuck this.

I managed to pull this though, it was glorious.
(http://i.imgur.com/nyTqmiH.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 06, 2015, 05:53:21 pm
Beautiful. I experienced the same with a friend's Heracles, but only because I got 5 Heracles cards to choose, and I had a full party alive. What are the chances of that LOL?

Tbh, I feel quite angry about the Berserker event. I would have prefered to get Lu Bu as a reward rather than a summon ticket. Goddamn Kirei. Oh well, it's a great place to farm Berserker related stuff plus the golem drops.

About the 4* Servant gift event, apparently it will be at 15:00. At 14:00 there will be maintenance that will last 1 hour in order to put the event in place (1 Quartz gift btw), then you'll be able to input the code. It will be 6:00 AM for me YAY! Guess I won't be able to try if they fucked up with the codes.

Oh, and just did Saber Gilles interlude, all thanks to farming bond points in the daily after getting sick of the Master Daily quest. First two fights are easy, last is medium. But I don't get why there's so many ghosts in the interludes ffs. Oh well, Friend Gilgamesh obliterated the Shadow Saber that appeared there. Time to farm Lancer pieces to ascend Proto Cu and do his interlude.

Edit: Hahaha, I just leveled Medea's High Speed Incantation to lvl.4, and it gives me 101% charge to her NP, with no CE to help! Instant NP in first turn is not a joke. If I leveled it more, I could use a CE and get a 200% charge. Which will probably increase my NP charge a lot more after using. OMG that NP spam. If it wasn't for the fact that it asks me to use materials for ascensions to level her skill, I would have done so already. Wtf, 8 dusts from Shadow Servants? Are you kidding me?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 07, 2015, 01:36:28 am
For the code they send, where can I be able to find it when they send it?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on September 07, 2015, 04:30:06 am
I think they're going to put on the website and the official twitter.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 07, 2015, 06:36:10 am
Before I forget, here's my ID if anyone wants to add me:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Side note: I didn't think it was possible to change master name and which master you use, but apparently it is.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 07, 2015, 08:29:04 am
It seems like farming the 30 AP Lu Bu event is good for Berserker monuments (And the 3 and 15 AP ones have a decent drop  for crystal ascension mats) so if you're trying to raise an Berserker you might want to look into that.

Beautiful. I experienced the same with a friend's Heracles, but only because I got 5 Heracles cards to choose, and I had a full party alive. What are the chances of that LOL?
Really? Three near 100% crit distribution on a berserker? IIRC that's only possible with Lancelot if you upgrade his skills and give him Bazett's CE, If you have five cards they would distribute evenly, especially on Herakles since Berserkers have low crit weight.

Edit:
And of course as expected by DelightWork's, people are having trouble getting into the game after maintenance
https://twitter.com/fgoproject/status/640776731800932352

I expect additional apology stones.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 07, 2015, 08:45:23 am
What I meant is, all cards were Heracles attack, so that's why I had crits on it. I wasn't lucky with the star distribution, it's just that it was the only option to happen. Then again having 5 cards of the same Servant in a turn with other party members alive is quite lucky too, happened to me only twice. And the amount of stars was caused thanks to multiple skills and NP that gave me crit stars, like Koujirou's NP and skills.

So hey guys, you can now redeem the codes!

http://typemoon.com/news/2015/atwifz

You need to go there, find the name of your character in Japanese, copy the code and below the code you'll find that (this exampel is for Marie Antoinette btw):

マリー・アントワネットゲットする!

Press the ゲット, you'll be redirected to another site, where you can input two codes. The top one is the code you use for when you bind your account, the bottom one is where you put the Servant code. After you do that, you wait until it reaches your account.

But guess what guys, servers work like shit at this moment because they're overloaded. What a surprise! I cannot even go to that site nor log in the game. So yeah, I suggest you guys wait for some hours.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 07, 2015, 09:08:59 am
I wasn't lucky with the star distribution
That was the entire point of my picture though...
I mean, having all five cards available when you're on your last member is normal, heck it's part of the game's as some sort of comeback mechanic.

And yeah, the servers are being hammered right now, the Fate/GO twitter just gave everyone a heads up on this. We should get used to these server issues by now, at least we're getting apology quartz so I'm fine with this (As long as it's not another 48+ maintenance hell, that is)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 07, 2015, 09:31:16 am
But Heracles wasn't the only party member alive, that's what I mean. I mean, my party when it happened was Lancer Cu, Koujirou and Heracles, and yet I got only Heracles cards at that moment.

Oh well, I just traded my code. Now time to wait until I can log in the game.

Edit: VIVA·LA·FRANCE!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 07, 2015, 10:39:14 am
Oh. Then full card distribution isn't that rare as you think, it happens often.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COIl5tZU8AAV_m2.png)
Stacking crits up to almost 100 on three unit cards for a crit brave chain however...

Servers are still down. I guess that gives me more time to think who should I get.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 07, 2015, 10:42:35 am
I'm in the game after tons of tries. Next day, will have to farm tons of Rider cards so I can level her up. Fortunately I saved them before so now she's level 20.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 07, 2015, 11:55:14 am
I'm hella confused on where/how to input the codes ffffffff
EDIT: I think I got it. Time to get Tamamo Cat.
Another edit: It gives me a red message whenever I try to get Tamamo from my mailbox. Anyone know what it says?
A third edit: Apparently it had to do with inventory space. I'm a dummy.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 07, 2015, 01:41:57 pm
Next time you can just post the error message here and we can translate for you.

Yeah so, I wanted to get Emiya but apparently he has no synergy with my team and he has a heavy critical weight. Then Sigfried apparently sucks as well so it's either Herakles or Tamamocat maybe, St.Martha and Marie are really good support too (But I have Hans). Ugh I'll just sleep it off and get my 4* later.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 07, 2015, 03:35:44 pm
On a side note: Leveling servants in this game is a pain sometimes.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 07, 2015, 03:44:33 pm
Try ascending them.Thats an even bigger pain in the ass because the drop rate for ascension items is horrible.I've been trying to ascend Caligula for weeks now.You're good with XP as long as you do the XP daily events and have quartz to refill if you need more
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 07, 2015, 03:58:07 pm
Yeah, the dailies does wonders, make sure not to miss them. Right now it's the Saber, Archer and Lancer EXP. And in a few hours, it will be the Caster, Rider, Assassin and Berserker EXP. Use this website as reference:

http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/

Also, people seem to forget about it, but leveling up skills is also a pain. It has some bullshit requirements for materials, apart from the usual skill crystals.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 07, 2015, 04:01:17 pm
My FSNCu has been stuck at lv40 for a couple of weeks now. Two chaos talons and one lancer piece left. But TBH I haven't tried too seriously because I stopped using quartz for AP refill so I'm just coming back when I have enough AP, plus I'm not playing during the day.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 07, 2015, 04:01:24 pm
Try ascending them.Thats an even bigger pain in the ass because the drop rate for ascension items is horrible.I've been trying to ascend Caligula for weeks now.You're good with XP as long as you do the XP daily events and have quartz to refill if you need more

Well I have enough items to ascend Tamamo and Lancer........only once.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 07, 2015, 07:59:22 pm
Just cleared a dozen gold & silver Archer EXP cards, and Emiya jumped to lv26. That's a start, and I finally have a little more room in my inventory.

Edit: VIVA·LA·FRANCE!
Vive*

Oh, I just did a 4-roll and oh shit Sir Zerkalot. I finally rolled something actually good.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: c001357 on September 07, 2015, 09:34:57 pm
got tamamo from the event and marie from a gacha so im set with this game
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 07, 2015, 11:41:19 pm
I think slightly more important than EXP (Unless you need it badly/are like me and have OCD about leveling EVERYONE) is that today is also ascension dailies for the knight class, it's better to start grinding for pieces (and monuments) early, otherwise it becomes a HUGE chore.
Try ascending them.Thats an even bigger pain in the ass because the drop rate for ascension items is horrible.
You tell me. I've probably fought the giant dragon almost a hundred times (I even had to sacrifice Master EXP day) and not a single reverse dragon scale..
And from what I see, I'll need talons for Lancelot's next ascension, along with a bunch of tusks (15?) and monuments. HAHA, sounds fun.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 08, 2015, 12:00:37 am
Well hey, we're talking third and fourth ascensions here, and this is only the second chapter. Without expecting it to become piss easy, I'm hoping later chapters have slightly better drop rates for high levels. I still think second chapter would expect you to be between levels 30 and 50.
And I'm also hoping DW will see how fast people are going and add a fourth level of difficulty for the dailies (maybe a fifth way down the line). In the first place, I can't see it maxing at "recommended level : 40" when actual level cap is between 70 and 90. And it also feels stupid that you only get a prism once and then that's it for rewards in dailies.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 08, 2015, 12:34:05 am
I don't know, this dragon scale is for barely the second ascension and the drop rate is plain abysmal (The ONLY reason I have two out of the three I need is, one was a guaranteed drop from Fafnir and the second one was from Gilgamesh's campaign)

3rd and 4th do sound like something I shouldn't get yet (Then again, leveling up abilities eventually asks you for ascension materials instead of skill gems and that's absolutely terrible) :
3rd   Berserker Monument x 4   Talon of Chaos x 5   Void's Refuse x8
4th   Berserker Monument x 10   Void's Refuse x 16   Dragon's Tusk x 24

Ironically, I have more than enough Void's Refuse (Due to two weeks of grinding Master AP, and those have reasonable drop rates too). I should probably farm Lu Bu for monuments instead of doing dailies, but I need lancer pieces to ascend my lancers once.


I think more than a fourth level of difficulty, what we need are better drop rates maybe? I saw this terrible pic of someone going through the 40AP EXP daily and he got mostly bronze cards and then two or three silver EXP cards. We probably wouldn't be able to afford higher difficulty dailies anyways, the half AP dailies should be the standard cost, really, that campaign didn't last long enough.

Prisms are super limited, I farmed absolutely everything I could and I capped at 78, I know that they plan to add more to the store other than those ATK/HP up cards, there's tons of planned stuff that hasn't been implemented yet (Customizing your character's appearance, different master spells maybe) and I feel like we might have to buy those with prisms.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 08, 2015, 12:45:01 am
There are very clearly a bunch of characters whose third and fourth ascensions use materials that aren't even in the game yet, so yeah, they didn't expect everyone to reach the max yet. I'm just thinking later chapters will also give a slightly better drop rates for the other high level types of material. I'm fine with having a few 3* at level 40 for now.
Prisms can be obtained by burning Servants or CEs of 3* and above at the shop, it's just that at this point, it's also kinda lousy to see what little you can get that need so many prisms (seriously, you get like one prism for burning a 3* card, and you need 30 of them to get some shitty +50 on ATK or HP, or something like that, like, what's the point, right now - especially since even the number of +50 cards you can give a Servant has a limit cap).
For the Master spells, it seems to me like different "dresses" will give you different sets of spells (you level up the dress and it improves your spells). It's just not implemented yet either.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 08, 2015, 12:52:23 am
Oh right, burning... I forgot about that, you can always burn a massive batch of 1 or 2* at once to get prisms though, but that can be an issue thanks to the limited inventory space (I ended up just saving all my duplicate Kojiros so I can make a team of three Kojiros in their different ascensions haha)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 08, 2015, 01:01:37 am
I think 1 and 2* don't give you any prisms.
Also you can't put duplicates of the same Servant in a team, so keeping duplicates has zero use. Except to keep older looks, yeah, maybe, since some of the later forms are terrible (Arturia Alter, Hassan of the Cursed Arm, and Dynasty Warriors Strikeforce Lu Bu if you're not into that).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 08, 2015, 04:35:22 am
I thought they generated prisms, but you had to burn like... 10 at once, maybe I grabbed a 3* by mistake.
Except to keep older looks
Thaaaat was one of the reasons. Yeah Super Saiyan War God Mode Lu Bu is just.. bizarre. I don't mind Hassan that much, I don't like Arturia with the cape and crown to be honest, I know a handful of people prefer Gilgamesh with the armor as well.
Oh well, I admittedly I never tried to add multiples of the same in a team (Or using a friend support that was the same unit as one of my party members)


Good o'l Jouji Nakata is playing the game and he's aware of BLACK KEYS
https://twitter.com/joujinakata123/status/640845715208433665


Edit:
...So yeah. You can have multiples with support, I knew I saw a screenshot with two Kojiros a while ago.
(http://i.imgur.com/R7kNotU.jpg)


Edit: Oh yeah I lied, I capped at 81 prisms, there were some dailies I didn't complete, and I forgot that the first daily gives one prism, then two and then three.

Working on interludes right know, Mata Hari's is so easy, same for Saber Lily's..., Romulus' was sorta easy too, the difficulty of these is all over the place.
JESUS, Hassan's interlude is a joke.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 08, 2015, 02:01:54 pm
Yeah, Darius for example is another one easy, even though he's 3* Servant. Then you have Cu's who has Homunculus and a Chimera, which will rape you if you're not ready. They really need to balance the interludes honestly. And decrease the huge amount of health the ghost in d'Eon's interlude has.

Also, I'm sure they will allow us in the future to choose the sprite we want to show while fighting. I rather prefer to have Marie with red suit than white suit, if I ever reach her 3rd Ascension one day.

Btw, I'm slowly getting to the max level of all my Servants, meaning Ascension hell is coming closer and closer. I'm scared guys.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 08, 2015, 02:26:22 pm
Yup!
I juuuuust did Darius' it was only two stages and the ghosts were incredibly easy, not as tanky as the ghosts in other interludes.

I haven't ascended Cu or Proto Lancer yet since I'm lacking lancer pieces, is it that bad? I don't think I've fought Homunculi at all.
I'm also missing:
Kiyohime, Caligula, Spartacus and Lu Bu (I haven't ascended them since I'm need to save all these 'zerker pieces for Lancelot.. also I see a second interlude for Lancelot on Orleans)
FAT Ceasar (I need to level him him until the first cap)
I'll do Sanson's after I get enough AP, I've been extremely lucky since I haven't had to use seals so far.

I haven't cleared the Galia Free mission against the Chimera either (THRICE to get the quartz, mostly due to lack of AP/been busy clearing other content and farming materials)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 08, 2015, 02:30:24 pm
New event already. Half AP cost is back (again not for all dailies), and great success (double EXP) / super success (triple) rates are doubled. This goes for Servants and CEs.
It starts tomorrow (9/9, 4PM JST), ends on the 16th.

... At this point, I'm thinking they love watching everyone scramble to get good cards, be it exp, servants or ces, and pay more and more to get more.

Homunculi are those big thick white or dark grey giants with a blob-like head and arms like a mace blob. You'll know when you'll see them, and yeah, they're rare. And tough. Not tough enough for a few lv40 3* though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 08, 2015, 02:47:32 pm
Ah you beat me to the announcement. That's great since I'm almost done with interludes and I need pieces and those hellish ascension mats.

Oh, I've seen the sprites on screenshots yeah, I was just wondering where I'd end up finding them. I read that Proto Lancer's interlude was super easy too so more free stones I guess? Oh and for those wondering, Sanson's interlude is easy so far. I want to draw a Mozart or Eric Bloodaxe for completion's sake (Read: Free quartz), I'm surprised I don't have them yet.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 08, 2015, 02:54:19 pm
Sanson's last battle is against a Shadow version of himself, also easy. And why don't you have a Mozart? Goddamn thing has appeared enough times to get the NP to level 3, when he's incredibly worthless. I would rather want an Andersen ffs. Or a Lu Bu, enough Spartacus, I already have him at level 5. And the EXP cards are waaay too common seriously, I would rather get worthless CE than that.

What I have never seen myself is either that Eric Bloodaxe and Edward Teach. How rare are they anyway?

Anyway, glad to know Proto Cu is easy, unfortunately I need Lancer Pieces first unfortunately. Jing Ke is the next for me, but I heard that there's a Shadow Gilgamesh there, for some weird reason. And I already saw Marie's interlude (Nero waiting for me there), so I'm ready when she reaches level 40.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 08, 2015, 02:58:30 pm
I've no idea, I know DKDC has also drawn a bunch of Mozarts so I'm extremely confused, I thought 1* and 2*'s were common? (I wouldn't mind a SAIKO NO COOOOL or shota Iskandar either)
I do have an Andersen with LV2 NP, I've been using him quite a bit with the 60% NP start CE, maybe that's why I haven't used my seals yet, he's been doing some nice work. I have a Black Beard with LV2 NP as well.
lv1 EXP cards are just plain worthless to me right now yeah, all my servants are decently leveled, I'll just feed them to Shielder..
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 08, 2015, 03:00:38 pm
Well, with this new event I can have her at level 40 and be a bit useful for Okeanos I guess, with her invincibility skill and NP. Though I won't give her any priority until the rest of my Servants are at max level, since I can't even ascend her.

Caster Gilles is okay, but honestly, if you already have a Caster Cu, Andersen and Medea, you're good to go. Shota Iskandar would be good to get, I guess. Also Jeanne too, but that last one is a dream that will never come true, at least for me since I won't spend cash at all.

But seriously, there's some guys that have spent way too much cash in this game. Just watch this:

http://imgur.com/a/x3ZO9

Where does people get that much money and free time to do this anyway...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: 『レム-レム』 on September 08, 2015, 03:06:21 pm
i have ( T____T)  caster   
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 08, 2015, 03:13:49 pm
Yeah, I must have Lv4 or 5 NP for Mozart, Spartacus, Mata Hari, Kojiroh, and lv3 Phantom. Yes, I do a lot of friend rolls, thanks to the Journey CE. But it's shit.
I also got a Cursed Arm Hassan and Lu Bu on my alt account (my tablet is a few years old and can't handle it right so I moved my main account on Bluestacks and I still made a new one on my tablet just for kicks). I'm not keeping the shit ones on that alt account so I won't keep track of duplicates (I do already have a lv2 NP Kojiroh there, but he's good).
Got one Eric, one Asterios and one Edward on my main. Haven't seen them since. Same for Alexander, Mephisto, Boudicca.

I wish there was a system where 1* exp gave a bit more to the Servant if he's ascended more and more. It's completely worthless otherwise.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 08, 2015, 03:24:03 pm
Not even the 3* EXP is worth something when you can get tons of them in the 40AP daily, and I'm sure people won't get one at low levels. I would rather want that they remove the EXP from the Friendship roll honestly. Even at level 1 they were worthless because of the dailies.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: 『レム-レム』 on September 08, 2015, 06:02:49 pm
i finish  Fuyuki story but i don't have alter it's normal ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 08, 2015, 06:05:30 pm
After Fuyuki you unlock Alter in the Gatcha,you get Caster Cu as a prize for finishing it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 08, 2015, 07:01:53 pm
After Fuyuki you unlock Alter in the Gatcha,you get Caster Cu as a prize for finishing it.

And because of this reason Saber Alter wasn't an option in the 4* Servant choice. I would have picked her instantly had she been an option...

Goddamn Koujirou shadow in the daily quest. Spamming the dodging skill every turn. Every turn. Took 10 minutes to deplete his 69 health to 0, goddamn it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: 『レム-レム』 on September 08, 2015, 07:10:08 pm
ok thanks ( ^___^)b
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 08, 2015, 09:50:12 pm
I've successfully managed to ascend Sasaki and now I'm doing his interlude.
Time to level him up more to kill dragons in France.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 08, 2015, 09:59:04 pm
Rolled normal Lancer Cu.
Now I have the entire team Cu Bros.
Also got ANOTHER Mozart.Holy shit man I like you and all but please stop
I've successfully managed to ascend Sasaki and now I'm doing his interlude.
Time to level him up more to kill dragons in France.
Good luck,m8
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 08, 2015, 11:35:31 pm
Those three fucking gold Ghost Assassins in CasCu's interludes that take forever to kill (good thing the whole battle is just these three, no other wave).
That fucking chimera in FSNCu's interlude, after those OP homunculi.
Oh well, these short stories are nice, at least.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 09, 2015, 01:32:18 am
I've successfully managed to ascend Sasaki
YUP, me too.
The RLEGEND CONTINUES...
(http://i.imgur.com/OX92nTn.png)
Or not, I don't think I can farm for gears. At least the crystals should be relatively easy to drop and the monuments drop here and there on the daily...
If only ascending Lancelot was this easy...


I'm glad the 1/2AP campaign will be there to level him up but also kinda upset since the dailies where I get to suffer farm for dragon scales won't be reduced to 1/2 AP.

Edit:
So I ran the ascension mats 40 AP and I only got one caster piece. Great use of stamina hahaha ugh.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 09, 2015, 02:04:23 am
Well I completed his interlude. Unsure what to do now aside from leveling Tamamo and Zhuge Liang. Maybe Cu Lancer as well.
EDIT: No idea what the shadow servants event is about, but I did it either way.

Shadow Boudica keeps fucking reviving though and it's annoying.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 09, 2015, 02:16:12 am
EDIT: No idea what the shadow servants event is about, but I did it either way.
http://kairosity.tumblr.com/post/125576872324/fategrand-order-how-to-play => "9. THE CHALDEA GATE + DAILY QUESTS"
Shadow Servants are Ascension or Skill reinforcement items (today is Ascension). So mostly class pieces and skill stones (rarely monuments and I don't think it ever gives unique items like chaos talons, homunculus baby and whatnot).
Quote
Shadow Boudica keeps fucking reviving though and it's annoying.
Yeah, it's a massive pain how the enemy never has any cooldown for skills. Try fighting that lv40 Shadow Heracles when he spams his Eye of the Mind dodge skill every single turn. Or Battle Continuation (though you can still hope to just kill her twice in one turn for this case).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 09, 2015, 10:47:28 am
F/SN Campaign : 9/9 16:00 to 9/16 13:59
Draw rates for below servants increased:
5* - Saber/Arturia
4* - Archer/Emiya, Berserker/Heracles
3* - Lancer/Cu Chulainn, Rider/Medusa, Caster/Medea

All 10x rolls will guarantee at least a 4 star card (can be servant or CE) and one 3 star and above servant
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COcXvdtUsAAAgYL.jpg)

But... Gilgamesh was in F/SN? :(
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 09, 2015, 04:58:32 pm
Us mongrels have already wasted our chance to get him.

Since I'm not going to waste any more quartz until Astolfo and Jack the Ripper are available, I don't really care that much about these news. Though obviously this only affects quartz rolls, so if you're relying on friendship rolls to get Lancer Cu, Medea and Medusa well... good luck to you pal.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 09, 2015, 11:13:06 pm
I finally ascended Cu Lancer YAY ME
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 10, 2015, 01:34:35 am
I had like 40 Saber EXP cramping my inventory with the Knight EXP daily, and then I rolled a Caesar. He instantly jumped to level 34 or something. I'm still figuring him out (I dunno yet what kind of CE I can give him), but I'll try putting him as my leader for a bit (and I already got new friend requests with him). I'm getting a little weary of Team Unkillable (I just ascended Proto Cu too so he got his Arrow Evasion as well) because damage wasn't stacking as well as I hoped (although I did also get a second CasCu for his NP), so I'm trying more combinations with Emiya (it's really hard to deal decent damage with him, man), Sir Yellsalot (love his voice and his vulcan minigun), and others, like trying to make Medea useful without being squishy (I also got a Medusa but she's only at level 14 or so). Yes, surprisingly I had some really good rolls in the last couple of days, I even have a Saber Gilles but I'm not even touching him. I think I actually got almost everyone I wanted (reasonably speaking), except Hassan and Arturia Alter.
I'll still keep a secondary team with all 3 Cus (Proto Cu also has Lv2 NP), it's still fun once in a while to be completely immune to absolutely everything for ever.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 10, 2015, 02:23:44 am
I got Caesar, I haven't really used him though so I don't know how good he is, my other sabers are Gilles and Lily and I've been favoring her over the rest since she's at a decent level.
I don't have a Medusa and today I got my third Hassan, still no Mozart, still no Eric, still no Robin Hood.. I wouldn't mind a Caster Gilles either. Oh well. I don't need phoenix plumes (YET) so I'll farm more EXP today I guess.

Speaking of which, One thing that bothers me a lot is the 1* exp card we get as a daily login bonus, I know it's meant to help new players but it feels so... pitiful...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 10, 2015, 02:27:13 am
Should I replace my Zhuge Liang with Cu Lancer (since he's ascended) for now until my cost goes up?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 10, 2015, 02:43:44 am
Caesar has a NP power boost for the whole team and a decent Charisma, so pretty much put him with people who can build their NP quickly (or have a Kaleidoscope / Imaginary Number Magecraft, maybe Formalcraft / Projection Magecraft) and try to stack them all. He has real good stats, yet he's hard to keep alive if there are several high level enemies and / or if he get hit hard by class disadvantage. He'll die pretty fast if you're not careful.
Ah, Robin, the last one that keeps eluding me in the Friend rolls along with Hassan and Lu Bu.

Zhuge Liang has useless skills and stats, he only gets good stats at a very high rank (but that's mostly because he's a 5* and can go further than everyone else who isn't a 5*), and for his skills to be useful, you really need rock solid planning and team building. All 3 Cus are real good pretty early, especially with Arrow Evasion after their first ascension. If you can give them a CE that has good ATK up, they'll kill things left and right at a good rate without trouble. It's only on the long run that you start wishing they had just a little more and start looking at other higher ranked hard hitters, but they're bread 'n butter mass slaughterers.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 10, 2015, 03:20:52 pm
I don't have a Medusa and today I got my third Hassan, still no Mozart, still no Eric, still no Robin Hood.. I wouldn't mind a Caster Gilles either. Oh well. I don't need phoenix plumes (YET) so I'll farm more EXP today I guess.

Dude, I just keep getting Mozart compared to you. I got one again, NP to 4. I don't mind getting Hassan over Mozart seriously. GIVE ME YOUR LUCK!

Btw, this new event was not kidding with the chance of getting Great and Super success. I'm constantly maxing my characters with it. Can't believe I got my d'Eon to 50 so fast. I need now 9 Saber pieces for her, fortunately I have plenty of Hero's Proof since it's a pretty decent drop.

Edit: OMG I just got a Benkei in my free roll. I can't believe it. I thought it would be Leonidas, but guess not. With this I have all Lancer entries unlocked.

And speaking of Benkei, I haven't seen any video with his NP yet. How weird.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 10, 2015, 09:30:06 pm
I JUST REALIZED HOW DIFFICULT CU LANCER'S INTERLUDE WAS
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 10, 2015, 10:30:39 pm
Caesar has a NP power boost for the whole team and a decent Charisma, so pretty much put him with people who can build their NP quickly (or have a Kaleidoscope / Imaginary Number Magecraft, maybe Formalcraft / Projection Magecraft) and try to stack them all. He has real good stats, yet he's hard to keep alive if there are several high level enemies and / or if he get hit hard by class disadvantage. He'll die pretty fast if you're not careful.
So I just did the easiest thing I could do and used your friend support (All my Saber cards have gone to Lily), he seems okay, I didn't know his NP was Quick (And for some reason it crashed the game twice), I kept him alive just fine but I have an ascended Andersen so it wasn't too hard.
Dude, I just keep getting Mozart compared to you. I got one again, NP to 4. I don't mind getting Hassan over Mozart seriously. GIVE ME YOUR LUCK!

Btw, this new event was not kidding with the chance of getting Great and Super success. I'm constantly maxing my characters with it. Can't believe I got my d'Eon to 50 so fast. I need now 9 Saber pieces for her, fortunately I have plenty of Hero's Proof since it's a pretty decent drop.

Edit: OMG I just got a Benkei in my free roll. I can't believe it. I thought it would be Leonidas, but guess not. With this I have all Lancer entries unlocked.

And speaking of Benkei, I haven't seen any video with his NP yet. How weird.
I did a bunch of friend rolls since my friend list is practically full so I get a decent amount of NP. Still no Mozart, got my sixth Black Beard so I upgraded his NP to LV5...
Luck? Nah, if I had luck I'd have a goddamn dragon scale to ascend Lancelot already, I was going to farm some more today but screw it, half AP EXP is too good to pass up.

People say Benkei is boring but he makes for an okay tank if you ascend him and his stats aren't too awful for being a bronze servant, he has saved me a handful of times (I gave him the parting sea CE so it's useful whenever he uses taunt)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 10, 2015, 10:42:51 pm
Yeah, turns out Caesar isn't so squishy if he's not fighting Archers. He'll still need a shot of heal and dodge to survive all three waves against a hard daily if he still get pummeled, but that goes for everyone who isn't named Cu Chulainn. Also, put him with a Lancelot, an Emiya, or a Gilgamesh in a combo after him, and you'll rack up a million stars, his quick cards are very effective (I pulled like 16 stars out of a QQAExtra Brave Chain with him, and 7 just now with only an AABExtra Brave Chain). Definitely good at making everyone else strong, but his stats are misleading, he doesn't quite deal as much damage as FSNCu if they're both at lv40 (I guess the difference in Divinity causes that gap) though his NP is decently strong, and he's not as tanky as he seems since he doesn't have any skill (passive or active) for protection.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 11, 2015, 03:03:17 am
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/117107cf19c217c747d6e580419370b9/tumblr_nuhn35E4l41td9veto1_1280.png)
I haven't maxed her out yet but I'm not quite sure how to get the other ascension item for Tamamo.
Well that and the other ascension item for Cu Lancer (from level 40 to level 50)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 11, 2015, 04:08:19 am
Also, put him with a Lancelot, an Emiya, or a Gilgamesh in a combo after him, and you'll rack up a million stars
Gilgamesh is kinda unfair, Busters hit five times so they get a massive star/NP bonus depending on your starter haha.
Right now my star generator is Kojiro (With Tokiomi's CE equipped)
I guess I won't be ascending him again anytime soon, I bet I'll be able to farm the gears until London. And with these awful drop rates... at least Monuments are relatively easy to get.

"This is Sparta" (http://i.imgur.com/wTPMv6H.png)
Haha, too bad his NP isn't a kick.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 11, 2015, 05:18:29 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/2PtzTh2l.jpg)
Am I cool yet?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 11, 2015, 08:19:25 pm
... Uh wait, we can get Fou's stat bonus cards in the Friend rolls ?
... Uh wait, we can get super successes on Fou's stat bonus cards ??! And it works, it gives you thrice the bonus ?!!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 11, 2015, 08:26:15 pm
For what I read, the Great and Super Success for Fou's stat bonus only increases the low EXP it gives you when you use it. I've never seen people happy when they get a Great or Super Success with Fou, only frustated that they wasted it.

And speaking of Successes, I'm starting to hate them, even though I said I liked them before. I get those successes when I am one level away of maxing, and I'm not getting them when I use 5 gold EXP cards. And I see I'm not the only one experiencing that. I make sure to waste as less EXP as possible in case it happens, but seeing it happening so frequently makes me feel like there's some conspiracy going on... Oh well, back to grinding and getting more irritated.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 12, 2015, 01:05:55 am
I just saw Lancelot's Noble Phantasm
If that isn't a reason to want him, then I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 12, 2015, 01:12:11 am
Had you used Quartz in the event that introduced him to the Gatchas, your chances to get him would have been better. Now it's all up to your luck and the money you have.

Hey Mozart, NP 5. Guess what's gonna happen to you next time you break my hopes making me think I'm going to get Andersen.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 12, 2015, 02:26:40 am
Why are the drop rates for ascension items such ass....?
I now realize Erroratu's pain.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 12, 2015, 03:35:53 am
... Uh wait, we can get Fou's stat bonus cards in the Friend rolls ?
Yeah I have some Archer attack up cards I haven't been able to use ye-
... Uh wait, we can get super successes on Fou's stat bonus cards ??! And it works, it gives you thrice the bonus ?!!
That's pretty amazing haha, and CE's can also get super successes (I didn't know this until yesterday when I dumped some junk CEs from FP on my Bazett)

only frustated that they wasted it.
Oh so no increased stat bonus? Eh, you don't really waste is, I mean, it's not something you can control anyways.

Edit:
In case you were curious about the cards base attack rate (Not counting multipliers or bonus by first card, attributes, etc)
https://twitter.com/humanity6/status/642329511325859840
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 12, 2015, 09:43:08 am
Nice to know, though after playing for a while you can figure the approximate values of the attacks.

Btw, was this from the magazine? How come nobody posted it until now?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 12, 2015, 12:25:24 pm
Why are the drop rates for ascension items such ass....?
I now realize Erroratu's pain.
I hope that it isnt Golem Crystals that you need because they only drop once every 2000 years.
And after I get those I need to farm for golden assassin monuments aaaaaaah

-
Anyway,I ended up picking Tamamo Cat in that event which I kinda regret now as I already have a working zerker and I should have probably picked EMIYA.Dammit.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 12, 2015, 12:47:33 pm
About the stat bonus with super success, I don't know, I'm pretty sure my Lancelot has a 100 more points in his ATK stat than he should have (in addition to the 50 he should have gotten by default from the card), and I don't remember giving him any other stat increase card.
Also even if it doesn't work, there's no sense in lamenting that it got "wasted", it's just frustrating at most.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 12, 2015, 12:57:57 pm
Yeah, again, you don't really waste it, it's not something you can control.

Anyways, Master and Bond EXP is in a few hours, have fun grinding master EXP everyone, I with I could join but I have to farm more stupid Reverse Dragon Scales (I wish I could get something out of the bond daily but again, all my servants have a maxed out bond)
Btw, was this from the magazine? How come nobody posted it until now?


No idea, I'm checking the digital copy of Type Moon Ace - FGO and that's not there, you have profiles and sprites of the servants that are not in yet, there's an explanation of the battle system, a list of Craft Essences, a bunch of short manga stories by different artists, A section with Jeanne visiting France and Nero visiting landmarks in Rome, and a bunch of Nobunaga and Sakura Saber comics.

This is probably from a newest Type Moon Ace? I could be wrong though.

So yeah, these are the servants I have so far:
http://i.imgur.com/1G0uRAa.jpg

Note the massive lack of Mozart. Seriously what the hell. I can understand not having Robin Hood, Medusa, Ushiwakamaru, Caster Gilles... those are 3*... but Mozart? Oh well.

I hope that it isnt Golem Crystals that you need because they only drop once every 2000 years.
And after I get those I need to farm for golden assassin monuments aaaaaaah

-
Anyway,I ended up picking Tamamo Cat in that event which I kinda regret now as I already have a working zerker and I should have probably picked EMIYA.Dammit.
Actually, the Lu Bu event... that one had a decent drop rate, I got a couple after clearing the event once. On retrospective, I should've farmed that event because now Kojiro needs them.

Emiya doesn't work with my team but I'm tempted to get him because I have no decent archers haha.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 12, 2015, 01:03:57 pm
Why are the drop rates for ascension items such ass....?
I now realize Erroratu's pain.
I hope that it isnt Golem Crystals that you need because they only drop once every 2000 years.
And after I get those I need to farm for golden assassin monuments aaaaaaah

-
Anyway,I ended up picking Tamamo Cat in that event which I kinda regret now as I already have a working zerker and I should have probably picked EMIYA.Dammit.

Ghost Lanterns for Tamamo
On a side note, Master EXP day, everyone!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 12, 2015, 09:16:27 pm
Hah, my Master level is at 69, Master EXP isn't doing much for me anymore, I need 3 runs at the 40AP for one level but I have only 92AP, I have to wait over 2 hours to get the third run and get up a level.
On the other hand it's the only place I can (hope to maybe) get a snake jewel and I need only one last for Medusa's second ascension (already have the Rider Pieces).
Oh, and Lancelot at level 42-something wipes out the Demon boss with a single Buster Brave Chain woohoo (with a Charisma or two on him, granted).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 12, 2015, 11:26:12 pm
I'm in the same situation as you, so I basically am grinding bond EXP since I have tons of ascended Servants that I want to unlock their quest.

And speaking of Servant quests, I'm surprised Marie has a second quest. I knew Emiya had two, but not her.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 13, 2015, 05:04:51 am
So, the packets are encrypted and people got the drop rates from so ascension mats. It seems like Reverse Dragon Scales only have a 2% drop rate.
And you can only farm them in a dumb and useless 40 AP daily dungeon. What the actual fuck DelightWorks, I've been struggling for almost three weeks to get only one (I've probably invested enough quartz for two 10x rolls), I fear for the sanity of people who need more than one.

Edit:
http://keripo.com/2015/09/fast-ascension-item-farming-guide-with-packet-sniffing/
Yeah I'm trying this, I gain nothing by losing minimal QP rewards.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 13, 2015, 10:57:47 am
My suggestion, just don't bother. I'm sure in the future there will be a free quest that will allow you to farm them. That's hell you're walking into if you continue.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 13, 2015, 11:08:07 am
Yeah, that's my philosophy too, those things will come later with better rates (i.e. yay millions of dragons and chimeras in later chapters). I'm not trying to get the Chaos Claw for FSNCu (except when I have a few APs to spare before tuning out), though I can still try to get the Lancer Pieces I think, for ProtoCu who uses Void thingies (which I have a million of) instead of Chaos Claw, and I might still get that last Snake Jewel for Medusa but only because it's the Master EXP quest and it's always useful.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 13, 2015, 12:07:15 pm
Yeah I gave up.
Fuck it, 2% and down to 120 quartz later. It's not worth it. All these guys with Lv80 servants in my friend list are so lucky haha
Blame it on boredom, I have nothing to do at the moment, other than leveling up servants, Okeanos can't come soon enough.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 13, 2015, 02:16:40 pm
OMG the battle against Shadow Alter Jeanne in the free quest. OMG the bullshit of this fight. I bring a support Jeanne since Rulers are just too tanky because they resist everything except themselves and Berserkers, and Jeanne was obliterated with a 6000 damage critical buster from that thing. I only won because of Marie and her beautiful skill that gives her invincibility for three attacks. Sure, the dragons have been nerfed, but Jeanne hasn't been nerfed. Make sure to have extra CS for this fight, I fortunately didn't need to use them but you'll need them, I assure you.

Honestly, I really hate the game and its unfair critical chances. Some fights were harder than usual because of LOL crits happening too often. While we have to rely on stars to have them, and you can have 90% critical chance miss for some stupid reason.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 13, 2015, 03:53:12 pm
Oh the Paris quest? Yeah the problem is that she's both very tanky and also has a huge pool of HP.
And then you have to do that three times for one quartz.
I used a Vlad with Kaleidoscope and then Lancelot to use the Critical stars from the NP, I still struggled a lot, the first time I used command seals, I was probably underleveled as well. Not anymore though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: 『レム-レム』 on September 13, 2015, 06:28:59 pm
I have trouble playing this game

I am lvl 17 but don't feel to evolve in the game :/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 13, 2015, 06:32:33 pm
Do the daily quests as much as you can, and only advance in the main story when you feel like taking your time. Make sure you don't miss the proper daily quests that give plenty of EXP or items for the classes you want to push.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 13, 2015, 06:38:28 pm
I have trouble playing this game

I am lvl 17 but don't feel to evolve in the game :/

Should've done as much daily quests as you can. It'll help for both you and your servants.
But anyway you're going to need to ascend your servants sooner or later.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: 『レム-レム』 on September 13, 2015, 06:44:57 pm
I follow the main story of the game but  didn't feel to be strong (thx support lvl 60 saber)
i clear Fuyuki for unlock Saber Alter in the gacha ... but I get that unnecessary cards

 if you have an idea for getting better
I am here  :)

sorry for my bad  english

edit : daily quest ok ! thanks
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 13, 2015, 10:00:50 pm
So hey:

http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1442123495548.png

It's all unconfirmed. Datamined data from the chinese. So yeah, it may change.

And I seriously hope it changes. Astolfo and Jack are 4* Servants... My heart just broke into 40 pieces...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Mgbenz on September 13, 2015, 10:51:33 pm
Translation for non-moonspeak readers?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 13, 2015, 11:15:06 pm
Long story short, all Servants that will appear in the game, classified by class. Some of them have info of their stars as Servants, and the majority have info of which artist worked on them. There's also empty slots for future Servants (for example Nobunaga which is missing but I'm sure she will appear, and before you ask yeah it's a she). One thing we don't know from that list is who has a different gender than from the source they come from, so expect the unexpected.

There's tons of them, giving you a list here right now is kinda hard (and besides I would only be able to give you the names that are in Katakana). Fortunately someone did the job for me!

http://shinichameleon.tumblr.com/post/125782139590/fgo-all-over-100-playable-servants-are
http://blogs.nrvnqsr.com/entry.php/3273-GO-You!-The-Blacklist

Don't know if that's all of them. Huge spoilers btw, read at your own risk. Oh, and to break more people's heart, Iskandar (adult form) is 5*.

------------------------

Edit: Okay, here's what I understood. Only translated those without kanji, except when I already know who it is from the game itself. Feel free to fill the remaining "kanji" (all names are in the order they appear). I haven't done the ones that have no class assigned yet.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 14, 2015, 04:19:01 am
if you have an idea for getting better
I am here  :)
Exploit class weaknesses.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 14, 2015, 06:29:55 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
BTW, it's not Koujirou, it's Kojirou (or Kojiroh).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 14, 2015, 06:48:23 am
You know, with the plethora of servants they have planned, I would expect like... weekly additions to the actual game (From one to four would be reasonable?)
With the huge gap in between new content updates, gacha-only events (Sure there was the class-ones from days ago but you could finish those in a day), a lot players (At least those who have been playing for a while) have nothing to do and are getting overleveled (Putting aside gated servants and abysmal ascension material drops) so they'll breeze through Okeanos.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 14, 2015, 06:51:33 am
I also fear for the size of the inventory if you want to catch 'em all. Isn't it capped at 255 ? (well, that's likely to change) With the exp and doubles, I'm not yet convinced every last one will make it in. Or maybe it'll be over two or three years.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 14, 2015, 07:17:18 am
Yeah, EXP and Fou cards shouldn't share inventory space with servants, really, if CEs can have  their own inventory I don't see why exp cards have to be like this (Actually I do, since you can feed servants to other servants for minimal EXP, but I digress)

Upgrading inventory will also take a sizable amount of quartz, then again, that's only if you're lucky enough to keep drawing unique servants.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 14, 2015, 02:20:32 pm
>Tesla
>Archer
Well,he was trying to make some sort of a projectile shooting thing but never finished it IIRC
And him being an archer makes him even better,fuck yea,I was expecting him to be a Caster tbh

Edit:Also why the fuck did they make Apocrypha Vlad a Zerker and the EXTRA version a Lancer.
Would have worked much better if it was the other way around
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 14, 2015, 02:32:31 pm
New event people:

http://typemoon.com/news/2015/kk3yot

Basically, we will be able to get medals that can be used to trade for a Nero CE and ascension materials. In fact, those ascension materials are the ones you cannot currently get in the game. Joy!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Mgbenz on September 14, 2015, 02:39:26 pm
Long story short, all Servants that will appear in the game, classified by class. Some of them have info of their stars as Servants, and the majority have info of which artist worked on them. There's also empty slots for future Servants (for example Nobunaga which is missing but I'm sure she will appear, and before you ask yeah it's a she). One thing we don't know from that list is who has a different gender than from the source they come from, so expect the unexpected.

There's tons of them, giving you a list here right now is kinda hard (and besides I would only be able to give you the names that are in Katakana). Fortunately someone did the job for me!

http://shinichameleon.tumblr.com/post/125782139590/fgo-all-over-100-playable-servants-are
http://blogs.nrvnqsr.com/entry.php/3273-GO-You!-The-Blacklist

Don't know if that's all of them. Huge spoilers btw, read at your own risk. Oh, and to break more people's heart, Iskandar (adult form) is 5*.

------------------------

Edit: Okay, here's what I understood. Only translated those without kanji, except when I already know who it is from the game itself. Feel free to fill the remaining "kanji" (all names are in the order they appear). I haven't done the ones that have no class assigned yet.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty


Still no Archer Herakles? Damn it.

Also ugh Frankenmoe.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 14, 2015, 02:45:22 pm
Frankenstein having the same number of stars as Heracles sounds like bullshit to me, honestly. I don't really think she was that popular to justify giving her that many stars, nor she's strong enough to use that as reason.

Don't worry Mgbenz, there's still a chance that they release Archer Heracles in the future. I sure want to see his Nine Lives NP in Archer form. Btw, have you shared your Friend Code with us? I can't see it in the thread.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Mgbenz on September 14, 2015, 02:58:59 pm
I have like restarted at least 3 times because I've been reinstalling both my OS and the android emulator I'm using for the past few weeks. I'm going to wait awhile until everything's stable before sharing my friend code.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 14, 2015, 03:34:29 pm
Be sure to bind your account with a password so that you can pull it again when you reinstall, rather than starting over from scratch.
Tesla is often associated with a death beam, and everything crazy involving lightning (with most of his inventions being stolen by Edison or taken apart after his death), so there's a lot of ways to do go in overdrive with him. Probably starting with a big massive "fuck you" railgun.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 14, 2015, 05:25:56 pm
I have like restarted at least 3 times because I've been reinstalling both my OS and the android emulator I'm using for the past few weeks. I'm going to wait awhile until everything's stable before sharing my friend code.

Use the bind account option. It's saved my ass a few times, specially when my computer decided to say farewell after a lot of years working for me. And you need it to get a free 4* Servant, which will help you start the game if you didn't get any.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 14, 2015, 10:00:37 pm
You can try this
http://grand-fate.tumblr.com/post/125427320164/binding-accounts-restoring-data

Or this
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3gb8aw/i_emailed_support_supportfategojp_about_getting/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 14, 2015, 10:46:29 pm
I FINALLY got the 6 Ghost Lanterns I needed for Tamamo Cat

It wasn't fun. AT ALL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 15, 2015, 12:08:18 am
I FINALLY got the 6 Ghost Lanterns I needed for Tamamo Cat

It wasn't fun. AT ALL.


Let me tell you one piece of advice. Once you start laughing like a madman after trying to get Lancer pieces from Shadow Benkei or from the Ascension material daily event, just because it won't appear for some reason, you know you've reached the end of your sanity, and it's a good moment to stop. Real experience here. Just apply it for any material you need to grind for.

I don't even want to know what will happen when it's time to farm monuments...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 15, 2015, 12:29:00 am
What will happen is that you'll do that after Okeanos and it'll probably be a bit easier with higher standard for enemy Servant level.

Logged in to 2700 FP (I rarely get any anymore), it looks like people are more interested in a Servant with the Journey CE attached, so more looking to stack up on FP than lv75 Hercazerk, which are a dime a dozen.

... I got like 15 1*/2* EXP cards from that (and the small reserve I had just before), with an Asterios, a Mata Hari, and one 2* CE. Thanks Delight Works.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 15, 2015, 12:35:12 am
Hopefully. Hopefully. Unless DW decides to keep it the same way because it gives plenty more quartz, which I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled such move.

And another true story happened just now. I'm about to go to sleep. I have 10 AP. Oh well, let's waste it in the ascension material daily. Nothing but Saber EXP, all junk. I have used that beautiful Lancelot with the Friendship CE (or rather I've been abusing it), so I have 200FP again. Roll. Get my first goddamn Edward Teach after 30 tries with only EXP, not even one cheap CE.

I am going to sleep, and hopefully tomorrow will prove that it wasn't a dream. That I don't have E rank Luck. See you tomorrow!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 15, 2015, 01:04:00 am
I still really really really hate that one star exp we get as a daily login bonus, and to top it off they have to give it a fancy animation. Ugh.

Yeah FP rolls are hit or miss but uuuusually miss, I get a so-so CE or Fou card here and there, but the 1* and 2* exp cards are the worst, they might as well be junk at this point in the game.

Aaand I'm one piece away from ascending CAESAAAAR, I just want his interlude, really.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on September 15, 2015, 01:30:31 am
So I just started playing this game.

I blame Kai.

(http://i.imgur.com/bG9IxCT.jpg)

The party atm. Gilles I got from the tutorial summon, Archer from the code event.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 15, 2015, 06:16:47 am
So I just started playing this game.

I blame Kai.

(http://i.imgur.com/bG9IxCT.jpg)

The party atm. Gilles I got from the tutorial summon, Archer from the code event.

I am both a good and bad influence.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 15, 2015, 10:32:20 am
I would have recommended you a reroll. Gilles is the worst Saber in the game, honestly. I have him at level 40 because I couldn't give more EXP to Mashu, and his stats are still terrible. His NP is also bad too, not worth using Military Tactics nor Golden Rule. Why does he have to have Mad Enhancement EX if he won't benefit from it?

And yeah, it wasn't a dream. I have an Edward Teach. Hopefully that makes Hassan and Andersen appear now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 15, 2015, 02:41:57 pm
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/hzq945
コマンドフェーズにおけるカード選びなおし機能の実装
In battle, while selecting your attack cards, you can cancel and redo your attack sequence
Fucking finally.

Lots of other stuff (even interface adjustments etc.) but I'm just quickly glancing over right now. Smells like APK update.

Chose the sprite displayed even after ascending your Servant
Fights will go faster

For sometime this month, don't see as specific date
Not seeing any mention of Okeanos
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 15, 2015, 02:51:11 pm
So I just started playing this game.

I blame Kai.


The party atm. Gilles I got from the tutorial summon, Archer from the code event.
Post friend code
Also I hope your next rolls will be better
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 15, 2015, 03:07:11 pm
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/hzq945
コマンドフェーズにおけるカード選びなおし機能の実装
In battle, while selecting your attack cards, you can cancel and redo your attack sequence
Fucking finally.

Chose the sprite displayed even after ascending your Servant
Fights will go faster

OMFG, why did this take so damn long?! This feature should have been there since Day 1! I swear I'm going to scream of joy when in a battle it really lets me go back. So much suffering because of badly made choices that I cannot come back from.

I'm glad you can now choose the sprite you want. Some Servants have 3rd ascension sprites that I just can't like. For example, I rather prefer to see Marie in a red dress than in a white dress.

And for fights will go faster, does that mean Servants with caster attack patterns will not take an eternity to shoot their bullets? Please be that.

Edit: Apparently you can now give Fou cards to Servants with max level for their current ascension. In the past, you were forced to wait before leveling your character completely because it would lock you from leveling their stats. Nice, since that really happened to me with d'Eon and I was forced to ascend her before I was able to use my Fou cards.

Oh, and Attila, Nero, Caesar and ROMA aka Romulus have a higher chance to appear in the gatcha now. In case you have 40 quartz or pay for them in the game.

Edit2: Heck, here's a good link to check the info

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3l0y9g/additional_information_on_nero_festival_event/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 15, 2015, 03:09:13 pm
>Fights will be faster
They probably mean that ghosts won't have their entire life flash between their eyes every time they try to attack.
Or Doors taking forever to unlock and drop shit
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 15, 2015, 03:47:35 pm
It says they revised the tempo, I'm thinking about the pauses between each action. I've always been bothered by the camera constantly moving all over the place to track every little motion, it causes slowdowns and contributed to the action being slower, I hope this is also addressed, if the pauses between each action is reduced (if not, hello epilepsy).
Also the "first bonus" (bonus of type of first card in your sequence) will be made clearer to understand.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on September 15, 2015, 04:33:49 pm
I would have recommended you a reroll. Gilles is the worst Saber in the game, honestly. I have him at level 40 because I couldn't give more EXP to Mashu, and his stats are still terrible. His NP is also bad too, not worth using Military Tactics nor Golden Rule. Why does he have to have Mad Enhancement EX if he won't benefit from it?

And yeah, it wasn't a dream. I have an Edward Teach. Hopefully that makes Hassan and Andersen appear now.

I was unaware rerolls were even a thing that you could do.

So I just started playing this game.

I blame Kai.


The party atm. Gilles I got from the tutorial summon, Archer from the code event.
Post friend code
Also I hope your next rolls will be better

mah code: 273596416
And hopefully I'll get some better rolls later.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 15, 2015, 04:53:01 pm
Does anyone know what the Nero CE does?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 15, 2015, 04:56:23 pm
Apparently it boosts HP, and gives you the Guts status (basically if your Servant was killed when you had that status it revives at a certain HP, in this case at 500, while erasing that status effect). Basically emulating that skill in EXTRA that Nero could use that made her revive if she was killed in battle. For some stupid reason you can only get 3 of them, so there won't be a boosted effect for ascending it four times.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 15, 2015, 05:33:25 pm
I was unaware rerolls were even a thing that you could do.
Some people go root access to delete the ID, some people legit lose it somehow, and you can just load bluestacks, use the "pull account" option, then on your phone/tablet/whatever, it'll tell you "your account was pulled on another platform, delete from here ? Yes/yes" (sic)
Or uninstall and reinstall the apk, not sure if that deletes the memory too.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 15, 2015, 07:24:09 pm
Alright, I'll try and go over the full list.
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/hzq945
- Bug fixing
Some skills, CEs, Command Cards had their effect not applied (maybe that includes the famed "ignores defense" I've heard of, notably for Emiya's UBW ?)
Sometimes, if you disconnected from a battle, it would consume your AP but not offer you to resume the battle, we've improved counter-measures against that

- Fixes on the battle part
Addition of a high speed battle mode
Direction on how the battle plays out (I take it like a movie, directing how things unfold) has been rearranged, improving the tempo
Able to undo your selection of attack cards
Command cards show the class affinity (what ?)
Damage counter show the influence of class affinity
First Bonus and Chains make their effect more understandable
Battle screen shows which wave you are in

Generally speaking, improvements on the tempo were highly requested, and the UI has been rearranged to help that

- Improvements on strenghtening
Changing the conditions to use Fou-kun's cards
you won't be prevented from using Fou's cards when your Servant has reached his level cap

- Other changes
General changes on the UI, such as showing how many quests you still have to clear
Help text is available throughout the whole game
You can skip the animations in the gift box
Those are the most notable changes, they'll show in the next app update. This will be some time in September.

- Future game updates
Everything above will be out in the next app update. We're working on more stuff we haven't had the time to finish, that will come at a later date. Here are the most notable changes planned.

- Improvements on how to compose your party
Revamp of the party composition interface, including stuff like going over cost by mistake because of the CEs.

- Improvements on the quest info interface
You can check the info on enemy classes before entering a quest, and you can rearrange your party more easily

- Selecting the battle character
You can select as your wish the battle character (i.e. the sprites) for your ascended Servants

- Others, item expansion
Additions on new magic formal dress (Master's cloth that gives you your Master spells), ways to use the Grails you earn, new articles in Da Vinci's workshop
Again, those are the most notable new stuff, there's more.

There's also server extensions and tuning coming because of how hard it is to connect and update your info (like how your Leader isn't always updated in someone's friend/support list, I assume), they're forming a backup team specially to work on that. ... Then three lines of apology. Sounds like apology quartz pack down the line.

Unique Nero event starts tomorrow (link given)
Oh, the third chapter is being worked on in parallel to the repairs and events. "Please wait a bit".

That is all.



The horrible thing with those ascension material quests is that the difficulty of the quest has no impact on the randomness of the items you'll get and how good they might be. This is so bad.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on September 16, 2015, 02:21:31 am
(http://i.imgur.com/YBb8yFH.png)

I did a 10 summon after scrounging enough quartz.

Also I completed Fuyuki and got Caster Cu.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 16, 2015, 04:33:11 am
snip


Alright Boudica, off with the skirt.

I'm thankful for some of these fixes (They should've been in the game's initial release anyways), now if they could also improve the way the inventory is handled and improve the RNG drop rates (Getting one silver EXP card in the 40AP ascension daily is an insult, this is the second time this happens to me today)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 16, 2015, 05:11:20 am
Which reminds me
Is Boudica even good past ascension?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 16, 2015, 10:02:48 am
Nero event is up, supposedly the drop rates are amazing and we get gears and talons and pages galore.
the 30AP is kinda hard though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 16, 2015, 11:01:00 am
I found the 20AP to be harder, because of Mata Hari's NP having the success rate of charming you to be stupidly high, which means every 4 turns I would be unable to do anything for a turn. Not even Jeanne's Magic Resistance did anything to stop that effect WTF.

Lu Bu in the 30AP quest died in the first turn, then it was a matter of slowly killing the Caster and Jing Ke. But I suppose the Chimera in that quest may be the reason it's hard for some people. Btw, you can farm Chaos Talons there if you have a good party.

Btw the bullshit of the amount of medals you need to exchange. One round hardly makes you reach 10 medals (yeah, I know 1 Gold medals = 10 Silver medals but still). I see what you did there DW. Where do you exchange them anyway?

Which reminds me
Is Boudica even good past ascension?

Nope, Boudicca's a terrible Rider. Only ascend her once to be able to access her interlude, or thrice to make her visually more appealing. Her NP is the worst, it gives you defense buff but Mashu does the same with a skill, and it increases defense even more than that NP. Sure, you can overcharge it to surpass Mashu' skill, but it's not worth it.

Edit: Oh, in case you guys don't know, you get one time Ascension materials (x5 amounts, a really good amount) if you beat a map for the first time, plus 1M QP or more depending on the map the first time too. And the Nero CE can be dropped by any enemy WTF.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 16, 2015, 01:00:26 pm
Finally managed to ascend Tamamo....
Now to ascend Cu Lancer...somehow.

EDIT:
http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Nero_Festival
Increased drop rates for Attila, Nero, Caesar, and Romulus
In addition, Nero will be unlocked in the gacha for everyone if you didn't clear Rome yet.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 16, 2015, 01:25:47 pm
DKDC already mentioned that, you're kinda late.
Where do you exchange them anyway?
Shop. Twitter says that the feature isn't implemented yet, so maybe after weekly maintenance.
So grind the 30AP away, mobs have a chance to drop talons and the bosses might drop monuments.

I need one berserker monument and that goddamned dragon scale to ascend him twice.


Reading other people's posts takes little to no time, otherwise you just come out as rude (Not that I'm the best person to dictate that but just saying). Just a heads up.
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V
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 16, 2015, 01:53:17 pm
Oops. School cuts in on my research time.
Anyway decide to use my 10 quartz and got Proto Cu. Guess what I did with him.

(http://i.imgur.com/AVsBegql.jpg)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 16, 2015, 05:47:56 pm
I'm currently farming in the 30AP quest. 20K+ Master EXP, 1K+ Bond EXP, Chaos Talons appearing every 3-4 tries, lots of Gold Medals in that quest which will allow me to get tons of materials... I went from 1 Chaos Talons to 10 without spending a single quartz, in less than a day.

So many tears of happiness because they made it so easy for all of us. I'm crying so much.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 16, 2015, 09:45:13 pm
Never did I think hearing Date Masamune yell Gae Bolg would ever sound cool as fuck
But it just did.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 16, 2015, 11:09:21 pm
I finally caught him...

... Robin' Food.

I am sorry.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 16, 2015, 11:57:57 pm
I finally caught him...

... Robin' Food.

I am sorry.

Wow, you got him? Congrats, you got the best no-quartz Archer you can get in the game so far. I'm so jealous of you. I feel like my NP 5 Arash is moking me each time his card appears with the Friend roll.

And you know what? I officially give up on the 40-quartz roll. I'm going to YOLO roll as people say each time I have 4 quartz. Fuck my luck.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 17, 2015, 12:29:18 am
I finally caught him...

... Robin' Food.

I am sorry.

Wow, you got him? Congrats, you got the best no-quartz Archer you can get in the game so far. I'm so jealous of you. I feel like my NP 5 Arash is moking me each time his card appears with the Friend roll.

And you know what? I officially give up on the 40-quartz roll. I'm going to YOLO roll as people say each time I have 4 quartz. Fuck my luck.

Think that's bad?
Try getting trolled by Kirei, only getting black keys.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 17, 2015, 12:41:05 am
Why do you think I said that? Bullocks that the only Servant I get is a Saber Gilles. Thank you very much game. What happened to your increase rate of getting the other Servants?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 17, 2015, 12:42:31 am
Soooo guess what?

Someone listed the other upcoming mats up for grabs in the festival.
Semi finals has Horseshoe, Heart of the foreign god, Phoenix plumes and Twin crystals.
Finals has Homunculus Baby,Dragon’s Reverse Scale, snake jewels and seed.

I want all my quartz and AP and time back, haha ugh.

I'm currently farming in the 30AP quest. 20K+ Master EXP, 1K+ Bond EXP, Chaos Talons appearing every 3-4 tries, lots of Gold Medals in that quest which will allow me to get tons of materials... I went from 1 Chaos Talons to 10 without spending a single quartz, in less than a day.

So many tears of happiness because they made it so easy for all of us. I'm crying so much.
My game must be glitched because I've been running the 30AP no-stop, I even leveled up here and there and so far the only rare drop I've seen is a yellow berserker skill up gem. No talons so far. Oh well.

Think that's bad?
Try getting trolled by Kirei, only getting black keys.
Why do you assume we haven't had to deal with Black Keys again?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 17, 2015, 01:00:59 am
No idea.
But I hate having Kotomine rejoice......

I haven't even gotten a good Saber yet and I don't think I can get Lily since you know, pre-registration codes and all that.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 17, 2015, 01:09:55 am
She's not really worth it, just so you know. You can survive without having your own Saber, just use a support Saber. The best ones are usually Arturia for party attack buff and Excalibur, and Attila for Photon Ray plus the fact that she does the highest damage from the Saber class. They're all around level 70 so imagine how strong they are.

I said it before, and I'll said it again btw. Medea is so goddamn broken. I love how easily she can remove the annoying buffs Servants have just the first turn she appears with instant NP thanks to her skill. Even the ones that makes them take no damage. You guys need a Medea in your team. All of you. Mainly because we will start seeing a lot of Servants like Kojirou spamming annoying dodges like no tomorrow, and Medea's NP goes through them plus removes the annoying buff.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 17, 2015, 01:15:18 am
Most Sabers are 4 or 5*. Caesar is fine, Gilles has a horrible reputation (I've never actually tried him, though in the Nero event it seemed to me that his NP gives him a humongous ATK boost - but for a massive DEF down cost), d'Eon is a Caster in disguise who learned to tank, Siegfried is a tank that doesn't deal much damage. Then there's Nero, Arturia Alter, Arturia, and Altera, and good luck rolling them.
My fav is Arturia Alter. She has good HP and has almost the ATK of Heracles (though without the Berserker class bonus against everyone, without Divinity, and without Mad Enhancement). Plus AoE NP that hits hard and regenerates a bit of NP gauge.
But I'm not meant to roll her, apparently. I hope she gets included in an event someday. I'll buy quartz for her.

I found myself not farming the Colosseum quests at all. I have no need for most of those items, at most I'll grab the Reverse Scales, the Gears, some Pages, and some Horseshoes, but that's just for like two or three Servants each. I'm not touching (or having) most of the guys that use these items. My APs are better used rushing the Knights EXP day, I've made a lot of progress on Caesar, Emiya, Elizabeth (but she doesn't improve much at this level).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 17, 2015, 01:44:58 am
A bit off topic but I know they're pretty much the same, but different stats. I'm thinking about replacing FSN Cu with Prototype Cu (Because Kazuya Nakai as VA is awesome imo).
Are there any objections?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 17, 2015, 01:49:53 am
Most Sabers are 4 or 5*. Caesar is fine, Gilles has a horrible reputation (I've never actually tried him, though in the Nero event it seemed to me that his NP gives him a humongous ATK boost - but for a massive DEF down cost), d'Eon is a Caster in disguise who learned to tank, Siegfried is a tank that doesn't deal much damage. Then there's Nero, Arturia Alter, Arturia, and Altera, and good luck rolling them.
My fav is Arturia Alter. She has good HP and has almost the ATK of Heracles (though without the Berserker class bonus against everyone, without Divinity, and without Mad Enhancement). Plus AoE NP that hits hard and regenerates a bit of NP gauge.
But I'm not meant to roll her, apparently. I hope she gets included in an event someday. I'll buy quartz for her.

I found myself not farming the Colosseum quests at all. I have no need for most of those items, at most I'll grab the Reverse Scales, the Gears, some Pages, and some Horseshoes, but that's just for like two or three Servants each. I'm not touching (or having) most of the guys that use these items. My APs are better used rushing the Knights EXP day, I've made a lot of progress on Caesar, Emiya, Elizabeth (but she doesn't improve much at this level).

In my case, I don't have any more Servants to level up... I really made good use of the 1/2 AP event. So yeah, I have nothing better to do than farm those beautiful materials that otherwise would be really annoying to gather. Plus you get like 1M QP or more in some quests, which helps me since I don't need to worry about running out of it. Also, if you want EXP, you can also trade it with the medals you get for a good amount.

Saber Gilles is bad because of NP, skills that he doesn't benefit at all (Golden Rule ratio is low for him) and terrible stats. Just look at the damage a Buster attack does when you fight him in the colosseum. It hardly reaches the 1000 damage. At level 40 it just does 2000 damage aprox, something I can easily achieve with other Servants at less level. Yeah, he's bad, and like Boudicca only worth leveling for the interlude.

A bit off topic but I know they're pretty much the same, but different stats. I'm thinking about replacing FSN Cu with Prototype Cu (Because Kazuya Nakai as VA is awesome imo).
Are there any objections?

FSN Cu has better stats (small difference though) and his third skill is far better than the one you get for Prototype Cu (Prototype Cu gets an Anti-Beast skill, while FSN Cu gets a really good self-heal). But the difference is minimal if you don't reach the third ascension with him. You can just stick with any you want IMO. I prefer FSN Cu voice and looks though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 17, 2015, 02:55:30 am
On a side note, I have so much QP, I'm kind of sick of seeing it all the time in my inbox.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 17, 2015, 08:40:32 am
12M QP here.
FSNCu has skills to never die ever, Proto Cu has skills that make him slightly better at killing things (single targets only), but not by a big margin, and he still has one of the three survival skills (the better one). My suggestion at this point is just pick the one with a higher NP level, the difference is the most noticeable for whoever has the thickest, biggest thrust.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 17, 2015, 09:26:08 am
the difference is the most noticeable for whoever has the thickest, biggest thrust.

Oh myyyyy.........
But in all seriousness thanks.

I managed to pull an Edward Teach last night. Is he any good for a bronze servant?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 17, 2015, 10:36:03 am
He's shit. So far, it's rare for Riders to have good stats, skills, or NPs, beside gold ones, and there's only Marie. Medusa and Alexander are okay, they have everything decent. Martha has full party heal / cure, but at a late ascension I think.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 17, 2015, 10:40:36 am
St.George is a good tank, but it doesn't work in my team because riders have a big critical weight and it messes up my team's synergy.
I think Edward is also pretty much support, I ascended him once but still yeah, he's not amazing.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 17, 2015, 03:42:10 pm
St.George is a good tank, but it doesn't work in my team because riders have a big critical weight and it messes up my team's synergy.
I think Edward is also pretty much support, I ascended him once but still yeah, he's not amazing.

Funny you should mention St. George.
I just got him from friend point summons
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 17, 2015, 04:41:44 pm
If you don't have any 3* Rider Servant or above (or if you have a Boudicca), he's worth using. He's easily outmatched by them otherwise, as far as I tested.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 17, 2015, 05:27:08 pm
If you don't have any 3* Rider Servant or above (or if you have a Boudicca), he's worth using. He's easily outmatched by them otherwise, as far as I tested.

I have Alexander so.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 17, 2015, 10:37:06 pm
Then keep using Alexander, he's a good 3* Servant. Only do Edward Teach for the extra quartz in his Interlude (unlocked in Okeanos btw).

Phantom of the Opera, getto desu! I would have preferred a Hassan, but oh well, I'm happy I got a new Servant.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 17, 2015, 11:53:21 pm
30 AP Nero festival quest can be quite BS since Zhuge Liang can constantly buff himself with defense.
EDIT: Look at this bullshit.

(http://i.imgur.com/H1SZq8c.jpg)
I eventually killed the fucker with Lancer so that's good I guess
(Also the only reason I have Shielder in my party is because of her buffs + cost issues)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 18, 2015, 12:38:12 am
Medea's Divine Speed Casting (upgraded a couple of time for instant 100%) > RULE BREAKER will take care of that for you.
If you have her, of course. If you don't, get her as support and put support in fourth slot. Just keep someone to kill Lu Bu in one shot.

I you have nothing of that... Well, don't try to take on lv40 difficulty when you have bad levels :P

But then again, since he's shit at dealing damage, just wear him out over time and don't mind his defense.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 18, 2015, 12:41:31 am
Hahaha, that happened to me too. Then I used Medea's NP, and all of those buffes disappeared instantly. I laughed like a mad man when that happened. I use as support someone with a strong AoE NP like Arturia, Attila or Tamamo Cat, buff them as much as I can and then use the NP. Lu Bu dies in the first turn with that combo, and the other two lose half of their health in the process. Oh, all those Servants I mentioned are equipped with Kaleidoscope, and are between level 50-70.

But yeah, Waver can be a bitch with his constant buffes. Make sure to kill Lu Bu the first since Waver is scripted to buff him into a killing machine if he's alive. Once he's dead, he will only use the defense buff, and he will spam it more if he's alone. Make sure to kill him second. I suggest you put a Servant with dodges in the first position to deal with Jing Ke's NP. And pray it doesn't instantly kill you.

Btw, speaking of her NP, I had Lancer Cu at the front. I used Battle Continuation on him, but I had no dodges. She managed to pull an instant kill on him (the text appeared to confirm it), plus she also did 11000 damage to him, and he took it like a boss and survived because of Guts. But I'm not sure if that was supposed to happen though. Maybe I just found a weird bug LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 18, 2015, 01:24:57 am
I find Jing Ke is easy to kill immediately after Lu Bu. I go Lancelot Buster - Emiya UBW - Arturia Alter Excalibur Morgan, with the first Buster hitting Jing Ke. Both Lu Bu and Jing Ke are erased by that combo. Then you don't have to worry about instant kill, and Waver is unlikely to kill all 6 of your guys, maybe 2 if you were left in a bad state from the Chimeras, 4 if you're really fucking up hard somehow, but definitely not 6. He does have an insane amount of HP even before his buffs, though, so he takes forever to kill, that's the only issue.
Btw, speaking of her NP, I had Lancer Cu at the front. I used Battle Continuation on him, but I had no dodges. She managed to pull an instant kill on him (the text appeared to confirm it), plus she also did 11000 damage to him, and he took it like a boss and survived because of Guts. But I'm not sure if that was supposed to happen though. Maybe I just found a weird bug LOL.
Why would that be a bug ? It's exactly how it's supposed to work. You take the full attack, and you revive after that, so even if something like that hits both the instant-kill and the high damage, your HP still regenerate after the attack (but before the end of the turn, so if someone else is coming after that, that might still kill you).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 18, 2015, 01:29:20 am
I thought that Guts stopped one of the deaths, but it couldn't stop the other one. I mean, you literally are killed twice at that moment. Guess Guts acts for a single attack, regardless if it's an instant kill, high damage or both.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 18, 2015, 01:31:15 am
I don't see why it would only block one. You aren't killed twice, you take an attack, at the end of the attack you're left with 0 HP, and that's when Guts revives you. Guts doesn't interrupt the attack right between the IK and the damage.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 18, 2015, 11:56:28 am
(http://i.imgur.com/hcLOz56.jpg)
Underleveled dragon but the memes foretold.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 18, 2015, 09:47:34 pm
Hahahahahaha!

(http://i.imgur.com/8GjwNxu.png)

I finally got the goddamn CE. Heck fucking yeah!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 19, 2015, 12:32:35 am
Were Neros breasts always that huge,jesus
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 19, 2015, 12:58:26 am
Were Neros breasts always that huge,jesus

Maybe her outfit was acting as breast suppressors.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 19, 2015, 02:37:54 am
Yeah I just got it today as well, if I get ONE more then I'll be able to max out the CE after combining them with the ones we'll be able to buy from the (god-knows-when-it'll be-implemented) shop.

Aaand I got my first Mozart and then got Tamamo from a single roll. I guess I exhausted my FGO luck for the next three months.

Edit: The servant names on the colosseum are hilarious.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 19, 2015, 08:26:00 am
Guys, new Nero Festival dungeons are up.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 19, 2015, 08:56:45 am
IIRC, for the Mage team in the first round was:

- Andersen: Guy who doesn't work.
- Shakespeare: Guy who works.
- Mozart: Guy that just happened to be there.

Kinda silly names used for them LOL.

And S.D., after a while you're gonna hate the fact that you're getting Mozart. I assure you.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 19, 2015, 09:01:57 am
IIRC, for the Mage team in the first round was:

- Andersen: Guy who doesn't work.
- Shakespeare: Guy who works.
- Mozart: Guy that just happened to be there.

Kinda silly names used for them LOL.

And S.D., after a while you're gonna hate the fact that you're getting Mozart. I assure you.
PFFFFT
Iirc Elizabeth's was CCC 48
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 19, 2015, 09:12:37 am
I wouldn't mind getting more so I can max out his NP.
But for some reason he doesn't pop out in my account

About the new event, the 5AP randomly drops Yggdrasil seeds and 20 AP drops Phoenix Plumes.
I'm still unsure about what you can farm from the 30AP one but hey, you get really good bond and master EXP so why not? (Plus the servants are easier than in the previous 30AP)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 19, 2015, 09:21:15 am
You can farm the Golem items in the 30AP, and it has a decent drop rate. I mean, my first try granted me 1 of them.

It's also really easy to win that one. Bring Arturia, Arturia Alter, Nero or Attila in there with their NP full. Use it, and see how all of them die or are left with barely any HP, as all of them are weak to Saber attacks.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 19, 2015, 09:48:17 am
I just brougt a support Arturia with Kaleidoscope and yeah, easy.
For those curious about the layout and drops:
https://twitter.com/akari_fgo/status/645109599087890432
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 19, 2015, 04:49:24 pm
Were Neros breasts always that huge,jesus
eh, she's flat compared to passion lip (also  passion lip fucking when !?)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 19, 2015, 06:44:21 pm
They're all tiny compared to King Proteas tats

(also  passion lip fucking when !?)
Right after Okeanos ,I bet
So never :^)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 19, 2015, 07:20:05 pm
passion lip's bust measurement is bigger than her height  :tough:  protea can't beat that
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 19, 2015, 07:39:20 pm
Right after Okeanos ,I bet
So never :^)
Apparently they clearly planned to have a chapter released every two months (which isn't too unreasonable).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 19, 2015, 07:58:41 pm
Only problem with that is that we didn't have enough content to last two months. Not even a month. So now we are riding on events only to survive the long wait.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 19, 2015, 08:43:31 pm
Guess who got the Nero CE:
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/edf6ef6e1ae1a90e4e49028e7ead1b91/tumblr_nuxt7nvDFZ1td9veto1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 21, 2015, 12:21:41 pm
Congrats, join the party with us. Will you try to ascend it to max level if you get another one? Personally, unless I have spare gold, I won't.

One thing I just recently read, is that you cannot downgrade your medals. So yeah, you can go from 10 Silver -> 1 Gold, but you can't go from 1 Gold -> 10 Silver. Which is bollocks IMO since you're wasting a lot more AP and the quest is supposed to be harder. Oh well, I got 400 Gold, time to farm Silver since apparently I managed to get the needed 300 Bronze without noticing it.

And I finally got a Hassan. Goddamn it, I really wanted him in my team. Now it's your turn Andersen. I'm starting to think the game really goes for the "When you don't want it, you get it" logic since my FP roll was more about getting extra CE to level up my gold CE rather than wishing for a Servant. At least it wasn't another shitty EXP. I was also running out of Servants to max their Bond Level, so I guess that's a plus?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 21, 2015, 01:25:25 pm
You can't downgrade medals?
Ugh, that kinda sucks, farming the 30 AP is too good due to the drops and master EXP. I'm pretty sure I only have 40 bronze or so.
I might just farm those on the last day or something.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 21, 2015, 09:33:32 pm
Congrats, join the party with us. Will you try to ascend it to max level if you get another one? Personally, unless I have spare gold, I won't.

Probably won't ascend it, I only have enough gold medals to trade for one.
Also that feel when you get a dupe Saber Gilles and dupe essences
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 22, 2015, 09:01:37 am
Fixes in the next update.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3lvm8h/major_update_923/

Quote
-Fixed bug where enemy single target Noble Phantasms always targeted lead character

Oh boy, here comes a world of hurt. Now it's a must to have a tank with Taunt in your party.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 22, 2015, 09:18:52 am
So for the 30 AP quest of the Nero Festival Finals
(https://36.media.tumblr.com/4ac6991287b85f1990c8e4f5e280c5d8/tumblr_nv2hjpeoYj1td9veto1_1280.png)
So this battle wasn't so bad, just need to bring Sabers or Beserkers.
(I only brought Lily with me to level up her bond)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 22, 2015, 09:41:43 am
Had this huge dragon been something other than a Lancer, like an Archer, this battle would have gone an entire different way. I'm so glad it's a Lancer.

It's also the best place to farm those Dragon Scales. Overuse it guys.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 22, 2015, 10:09:15 am
Quote
-Added countermeasures against decreased performance when large number of critical stars dropped
Oh, maybe it'll be slightly more playable on my tablet. That's when it would freeze and give up most often.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 22, 2015, 09:01:48 pm
I remember how much the frame rate goes crazy when you get tons of stars. Glad it will change.

Goddamn it, the big dragon keeps crushing my hopes giving me red chests, to then show that it's only a skill up gem.

Edit: Oh hey, I just got a Fou ATK card for Lancers. And all my Lancers are maxed! Guess the next update will be useful for me.

Edit2: So yeah guys, in case you can't join the game, maintenance has been extended to 19:00. We will get two more quartz though, so that means we get 3 rolls instead of two.

Edit3: Aaaand extended again to 20:00. Better give us yet another quartz or two.

Edit4: It's finally available, but we need to wait for QooApp to update the version they have before we're able to play it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 23, 2015, 01:44:18 pm
Or you can just get it from here
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3m1g6y/update_out_on_ios_and_google_play_store_qooapp/

Edit:
40AP Finals is:
Wave 1: Roman Lancers x3
Wave 2: Cú Chulainn Prototype, Cú Chulainn Caste and Carmila with 4 backup servants: Gilgamesh, Alexander, Heracles and Nero.

HAVE FUN!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 23, 2015, 02:28:38 pm
Should I put (this evening, in about 5 hours) my Lv 50 Emiya as support instead of Lancelot for the duration of the event ? First I'll see if he survives long enough (maybe putting him in the back row so he comes out against Nero). Apparently Nero is super strong and she comes out last after the other Servants.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 23, 2015, 02:34:23 pm
Fuck that Nero. Fuck it with all my life. This goddamn thing keeps overusing her goddamn skills, which not only can heal her back up to 7000 HP, but it gives her massive defense buffs, to the point of making my Berserkers do three-digit damage. What the fuck?!

I thought I had won the goddamn battle when Nero was the only one alive and I had wasted the 3CS to bring back my entire party for her, but the rate of healing + the absurd defense buff + damage output she has makes her even harder than dealing with the other 6 Servants. I will have to waste Quartz for this, because this is just impossible I swear. Not even using Medea's NP helps me at all, she instantly uses Imperial Priviledge two times in a row and there you go, she gets two defense buffs (AND IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RANDOM!!!) and I'm screwed.

And as far as I tested, she seems to be scripted to spam the healing skills at less than 10K HP, so you better kill her fast before you reach that amount else your attacks will do shit damage and she'll be back to five-digit health bar.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 23, 2015, 02:41:31 pm
Medea, Kaleidoscope or Sakura, Art Chain, next turn RB + buster x2, third turn Divine Speed Casting to another RB and two Busters or NP chain if the Art chain was enough ? Don't use RB last so it's not wasted, you can slip in like 15 to 20k if you have Archers.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 23, 2015, 02:47:17 pm
I don't pay in this game. How am I supposed to get those CE? Also, Archers are what I don't have unfortunately. I mean, I have an Arash, but no way I use him in this fight with his terrible stats and his suicidal NP. And for some reason Friendship list has no Gilgamesh which would certainly destroy her... The max I can attempt is first turn NP and that's it, but Nero seems to love putting back her buffs unfortunately.

Oh well, right now I'm trying to obtain the quartz from the Chimera free quest, and will attempt it yet again, so I don't have to waste the apology quartz.

Edit: Oh hey, I just got another from Hassan's Interlude. I can win with two quartz.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 23, 2015, 04:40:38 pm
You get the CEs by using quartz. If you do the full story mode, and counting a bunch of apology quartz depending on when you started playing, you're supposed to have over 200 quartz. You can afford to throw a couple 10-rolls or three.
But not now, though, the randomizer is favoring certain Servants and CEs so you should have done it a while back. I've had one Kaleido and two Sakuras after like two weeks. I didn't pay anything to get them, either, and I'm not saying "duh just pay".
And then, even if you don't get them, get a NP for everyone, grind Nero down a bit until she buffs, and just Divine Speed once and chain 3 NPs, with Medea's first. You can still get at least 70k damage if you find a decent Herk support and have a Lv40 (not counting d'Eon, sorry) (and if you don't even have a 3* at lv40 then why are you even still here, you should grind for a couple of weeks first before you even think about taking on a quest that says "min level required : 40 or 50").
In the first place, there's a lot of Hercs and Gils with Kaleido all the time.

For Archers, just stake out the support list, it's randomized depending on which server it connects to, but they're not that rare. And don't hesitate to send a friend request at the end when you catch one. I've got a couple of Gils, a couple of Arturia Alters, and a couple of Herkazerks, all around Lv 60.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 23, 2015, 05:24:05 pm
Well, in the end I grabbed a level 70 Jeanne, which had that CE that raises the amount of NP one gains, and my god it was so useful since I was able to protect my party every time she used her NP, after that, it was really easy. Only had to use 1 quartz because I sure don't know how you can survive 7 Servants without having any Servant die. I made sure to leave weak Alexander alive until I was forced to either kill it or eat his NP, and it was really useful since it reduced the number of turns Nero used to two. I wish I could have done the same for Caster Cu, but dealing with an NP that takes HP over time (that Burned status) was something I couldn't afford. Btw, for Nero's case, if she sets 4 defense buffs your attacks will do 0 damage (though with 3 they do 100-200 so yeah...), just warning you. Taking into account how much her skills heal, they're probably at level 10.

So yeah, the hell is over. You get like 20 gold medals (and possibly a high chance to get her CE, which didn't happen to me). As rewards for the first time, 10M QP and Crystalized Lore. So yeah, I don't see any point in repeating that hell. Time to raise Silver medals and gold medals to get my hands on a second Nero CE and another Crystalized Lore, and I'm done with this event.

Edit: Btw, that option to change the battle speed... My god, it's so awesome.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 23, 2015, 08:23:01 pm
>Everyone complaining about Nero
>Nero didnt do a thing on my game
>Carmilla spammed her NP every 2nd or so turn
AAAAAAAAaaaaaaaah
I beat it tho,took 1 quartz to get everyone back in as I didnt have any Command spells

Also how the hell am I gonna buy that Nero CE,its freakin 200 medals,jesus
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 23, 2015, 08:33:59 pm
Well I bought the Nero CE.
Also I encountered a bug involving Nero's NP. After she used it, the bg from her NP was still there and it was covering all of the characters.
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/ffbf98978551cf3e4c8cfc9f32c1ecab/tumblr_nv57p3gDSG1td9veto1_1280.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 23, 2015, 08:47:22 pm
With all the strategies in the world, it's a massive pain that you really need to kill the one guy who's about to unleash his NP. Because a NP from a high level is always an instant kill against anyone you may have, unless you're saved by the class triangle. Once again, it's more of a "just kill everyone as fast as you can" than a game of skills and strategies :-\

Yeah, the "background for Nero and Emiya sticking around after use" bug has been around for a while (but it's nice and could just stay that way, with the swords on the ground or the theater backdrop). Never saw it actually cover the characters, though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 23, 2015, 10:19:56 pm
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I JUST DID A SUMMON AND GOT RULER
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *dies*

I also got Caesar but he isn't really important.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 23, 2015, 11:53:34 pm
I hate you sooooo much... I went for YOLO rolls and only got Black Keys (at least I got a red one finally, now I have a better one to equip to Berserkers apart from Limited/Zero Over) and the Leyline Stream. Oh well, one more for the last one and its effect will increase. Because we have to keep being positive!!

If you don't mind let me summarize all the battle:

- Carmilla will spam nearly all the time Vampirism. This depletes the NP of one of your Servants and increase one NP bar of her own. Kill her the first if you really rely on NPs.
- Proto Cu will use Protection from Arrows, aka inmunity to three attacks. I personally kill him the first because I can easily block Carmilla's NP with a dodge plus retrying until it hits the character with the dodge, and having to deal with Protection from Arrows spam is far worse than Carmilla Vampirism, at least for me.
- Caster Cu also has Protection from Arrows, but it's used less often, compared to the one that boosts his critical chance. His NP is full party target though, make sure to kill him before it happens, or block it. The flame status effect lasts 10 turns according to what people said, and it cannot be dodged nor blocked, be wary that you'll lose 200 HP every turn.
- Alexander is possibly the best Servant to leave for last, as it has no way to block any of your attacks nor fill his 5-bar NP gauge, spams the low chance charm instead of Charisma, and his NP can be easily blocked if you have Jeanne. I personally left him last so Nero only had two attacks per turn.
- Gilgamesh is next. I sure don't need to tell you he MUST die as soon as possible. Golden Rule gives him one bar, and he has three, Enuma Elish will kill everything if it hits (40K damage from enemy Servants will happen with him), and even his normal attack has a ridiculous chance of getting a critical. If you have a Lancer, make use of it as much as possible since against Nero it will be worthless.
- Next is Heracles. As long as he doesn't overuse his dodge, you should have an easy time killing him. Gilgamesh is your worst problem if you still haven't killed him.
- Last is Nero. The bullshit. She will spam her skills like no tomorrow. If she gets 3 defense buffs from Imperial Priviledge, you'll do three-digit damage unless you use an Archer. Four, you do 0 damage. Keep in mind she also can get attack buffs, and with 4 she most likely will one-shot a lot of your 1-2* Servants with a no-buster attack. Plus the healing, she can regain 7200 HP at max. Either keep being defensive like I did with Jeanne, Marie and Cu with the dodge plus invincibility (it works since her skill spam makes her attack much less), or go full offensive with an Archer and hope you kill her before she stacks buffs. If you have a Gilgamesh, you probably will win easily. A bit of work will be needed for Emiya, but it's still doable. Arash won't even survive one turn against her, and Robin Hood may survive one turn, but no more than that.

So yeah, this is all what you'll encounter.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 24, 2015, 04:15:25 am
That 40 AP quest was hell on earth if you ask me.
Also have we gotten the ability to change servant sprites yet?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 24, 2015, 04:27:46 am
Keep in mind that you're fighting one enemy from each class, so if you're planning a strategy that doesn't rely on brute force then you'll need a pretty varied party (For better or worse I have an evenly level cast, I even got Mashu to 40 with the EXP cards from the shop), I don't plan on taking on the event yet, I need to do some more preparation.

I already bought everything from the store except for the last crystal and QP, I guess the grind wasn't that bad. Ideally I should be getting EXP for the servants I just ascended (And I need one monument for Lancelot) but I'm going to keep farming the event because I need one more Nero CE to max it out.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 24, 2015, 09:54:11 am
Also have we gotten the ability to change servant sprites yet?
It wasn't planned for this update, so no.
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I don't plan on taking on the event yet, I need to do some more preparation.
Don't wait too long, IINM it ends on the 25th at 16:00, that's like 23 hours from now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 24, 2015, 10:24:47 am
Yeah, I can see the timer right below the mission :P
I'm just waiting for AP to do another 30AP mission since that will level me up, look for Nero's CE some more and then take on the event.

I wasted AP a couple of hours ago trying to clear Lancelot's second interlude, I had to retreat, I was very tempted to use seals but I knew I'd be needing them for the finals.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 24, 2015, 11:49:19 am
Yeah, I was going for quartz and god damn Lancelot's second interlude is nuts. Shadow Servants with crazy HP. Thanks support Saber high rank as the last line of defense (plus two good Servants of my own).

http://typemoon.com/news/2015/984h63
Does the Moon Goddess dream of dumplings ? (wat)
Orion (with Artemis) 5*, Moonlight Fest CE 5* with Artemis
Also Moon-gazing maidens pick-up, up rate for Stheno, Marie, Ushi, Jing Ke, and new CEs with the Moon Cell, Rin, Artemis again.
From the 25th at 6PM to Oct. 2.
Oh, okay, collect dangos in the event to exchange for Fou, EXP, Pieces and Monuments for Archer (great), Assassin, Rider, and the Moonlight CE.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 24, 2015, 11:55:55 am
I messed up by not having an Archer in my party and got mostly wrecked by Shadow Siegfried being super tanky and didn't even made it past Robin Hood since I had sabers on queue to deal with Shadow Romulus. Oh well, I'll be better prepared next time.

I just saw the news, getting anyone but Marie would be nice (Because I already have a Marie of my own), too bad this is yet, another gacha event, we'll just keep waiting for Okeanos  I guess. That's okay, I need to farm berserker monuments anyways..

Edit:
Cleared with seals, I didn't use a single quartz.
I just brought a team that counterpicked every servant except for Riders and brought a support Gil. I got lucky since Nero never buffed herself, she kept attacking my Saber Lily along with Alexander.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 24, 2015, 09:35:22 pm
Apart from Stheno, I already have the rest of Servants. Guess I'll save my YOLO rolls for when Orion is released, since I just gained 4 quartz for the 10 days login. I wish it was the Servant what you get in this event, not a CE.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 25, 2015, 07:16:18 am
http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Bath_of_the_Lunar_Goddess
The CE might prove to be useful for some servants as it allows the servant to recover 500 HP every turn (most likely 1000 when maxed).

But that's my opinion.

http://fategrandorder.wikia.com/wiki/Moonlight_Festival
The 5* one I'm not too big on since I'm not the type of guy that focuses on crits most of the time.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 25, 2015, 11:50:25 am
I'm aiming for that regen since that would make d'Eon the best tank. 3-turn taunt + self-heal + regen + dodge + master dodge. My god how can it even die?

Also, that regen, when maxed, it heals 1000 HP. Basically the same as Jeanne's NP. It's that good honestly.

And I will be able to ascend Marie to 2 and maybe three thanks to this event. I'm so happy.

Edit: Guys, farming the 5 AP quest is definitely better than the 10 AP quest. You get better rewards by doing 2 * 5 AP than doing 1 * 10 AP. And same for the 20 AP LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 25, 2015, 01:14:44 pm
Everyone needs to equip dango CEs on their support to make farming less of a chore.

Edit:
So one of the quests has a Dragon Slayer team: Martha, George and.... KOJIRO
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 25, 2015, 02:57:33 pm
Hahaha, yeah I just fought them. As always kill Kojiro first so he doesn't start the "spam dodge skill" bullshit. Once he's dead, Martha is next for the heals. George is last. It may take a while since he loves to stack defense buffs, but unlike Nero it's not really a problem because his damage output is laughable.

So I got 4 Summon Tickets, here's my results: Crystal Horse, Jing Ke, fuck you Saber Gilles and surprisingly that 4* CE Ilya that boosts your Buster damage. I still got one more remaining, hopefully it ends up being good.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 25, 2015, 06:27:00 pm
I didn't think it was even possible to buff yourself up so much that you dont even take any damage
Like no dodge skill,but straight up a shitload of defense buffs
What the fuck st.George
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 25, 2015, 07:48:49 pm
Dude, did you even do the 40 AP quest in the Nero festival? Nero was even worse at doing this, and the worse part is that the defense buff was supposed to be random, yet she got it every single time. At least George does shit damage so you can easily survive even against his NP.

I'm about to reach 200 Gold Dangos, easy since I've been farming the 5 AP quest which gives a lot of them. I've heard Orion is the last boss in it. Will have to grab a good Lancer, she's level 60 for what I read.

Edit: Well, that was easy. Her damage output is kinda ridiculous, but having Lancer Cu trivializes this whole fight. Also, you get two summon tickets instead of one. I got another 4* CE (the one that enhances crit damage) and another Moon Cell, which I won't ascend since you can stack them apparently.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 25, 2015, 10:55:25 pm
I get this feeling that this game (or Nasu in general) has a fetish for dragons.
(Attila's battle is her and 6 dragons, was thinking about bringing Sasaki for this but eh
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 26, 2015, 12:26:52 am
OMG the difficulty of the 30 AP quest. OMG, you get into a fight with a Demon with tons of HP, then after that you encounter Caligula, Caesar and Attila. I'm so glad I had a Gilgamesh with his NP ready. I don't think I could have won that fight otherwise. I don't even want to do the 40 AP quest in fear they will rape me.

Also, 34 Dangos for such quest, when I can easily get 20 by repeating the 5 AP quest 4 times, seems really bullshit to me honestly. Even with the Moon Cell plus a +3 boost from the CE that the Gilgamesh assist carried. WTF. Give me back my AP...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 26, 2015, 02:11:16 am
What are we supposed to do with the gold dangos that keep piling up after you finished the story ? It doesn't look like we'll be able to convert them to silver dangos...
I'm also scared to open that 40AP quest that recommends lv60.
And I got the last Archer Piece I needed, Emiya got his second ascension. I'll do his NP up interlude tomorrow, yay. Waiting for recharge still manages to be painful though, thankfully the 5AP is more than enough to pile up non-gold dangos.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 26, 2015, 03:36:24 am
Apparently gold dangos will just keep piling up.. yay? (This is why the more costly AP missions give more normal dango and little to no gold dango)

From what I've heard the 40AP is a fight against shadow servants first round and then a super tanky Artemis on the second one.. so bring lots of Lancers I guess? I haven't unlocked it yet.

Edit:
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/s60qh1

So we can exchange gold dango for moon dango after the event ends.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 26, 2015, 09:35:33 am
Yep, it's exactly like that. Just mentioning that apart from being a tank it dishes retarded amounts of damage. Even Lancers will take 1200 damage with their resistance, and I was using a level 70 Elizabeth. And obviously let's not count the EX buff she uses, which fortunately she rarely uses and instead goes for the Anti-Male buff to then waste it on a female.

Anyway, I wasted 3 CS to win that fight. Oh well, I'm not repeating it obviously, 32 Dangos are not worth it, and it's obviously a fight in which either you waste quartz or you have a really good team because you payed. And as always, Lancer Cu proves he's the motherfucking best Lancer in the game.

Edit: Oh hey, so apparently after the event is over you'll be able to exchange your Gold Dango for Silver Dango, at a 2G->1S rate. That's a really good rate. I'm going to keep farming the 5AP if that's the case.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 26, 2015, 01:44:10 pm
Huh, Orion Grand Battle wasn't as bad as I thought.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 26, 2015, 09:32:14 pm
Hahahahahahahaha! At my last Quartz roll!

(http://i.imgur.com/drqYpsw.jpg)

The miracle just happened to me! I can't believe it! I finally have another 4* Servant! What a goddamn miracle! I'm so glad I picked Marie instead of her in the free 4* Servant event. And with this I got all increased chance Servants in this event except Orion. Now I'm not jealous of people showing me their Lancelot or Orions!

Huh, Orion Grand Battle wasn't as bad as I thought.

I must admit, I went there with too many Moon Event CE. Should have gone more prepared I guess. High-Level teams can probably afford that, but my team, except for two, only reaches Level 40 at most. But farming the 40 AP quest is not worth it unless you have many quartz to spend and the 2x Dangos CE.

Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 27, 2015, 05:29:13 am
I brought an all-lancer team (They're all barely past their first ascension) with Mashu and Lancelot (And a Gilgamesh support since I have no Liz supports) and I cleared it without using seals.
http://imgur.com/a/JJNYh

Edit:
Even with 2x CEs, the 5AP is better, the only way to make the 40 AP optimal is with three x2 CEs (everyone has been doing calculations and this is the general consensus), also, farming the 5AP multiple times means you have more chances to get the CE.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 27, 2015, 10:19:01 am
Well, the chances to get the CE in the 5 AP are really low, but still possible (I've seen a screenshot that shows it's possible). But if you get 500 Silver Dangos it's recommended you waste them on the CE since it will increase your gains even more. I'm currently getting 6-7 Dangos of any kind in the 5 AP quest with 2 Moon Cells and a Support +3. When I get the CE, I will be gaining 9-10 at a time.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 27, 2015, 11:31:13 am
I thought buying the 500 CE was obvious and like the very first thing you should do?
And that you shouldn't go for the 2000 one since it won't make profit in time according to basic math (Not unless you have a bunch of dango CEs from either quartz/summoning tickets rolls or as a drop, then, and only then it might make some profit, but that's only if your team+support is already  full of extra dango CE's and you buy it to replace the lowest one/Moon Automaton)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 27, 2015, 03:27:38 pm
I think nobody is crazy enough to farm the 2000 dango CE, unless they have bought everything already.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 27, 2015, 03:31:45 pm
500 is enough, thank you.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 27, 2015, 09:53:22 pm
Hey guys, do you know any place where I can consult what I can find info about Marie's Interlude, the second quest? The first part of it gave me a bit of trouble with the many ghosts in it, so I want to be ready for the second one.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 27, 2015, 09:58:39 pm
Hey guys, do you know any place where I can consult what I can find info about Marie's Interlude, the second quest? The first part of it gave me a bit of trouble with the many ghosts in it, so I want to be ready for the second one.

I tried looking and I couldn't find anything about her 2nd interlude.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 27, 2015, 10:01:30 pm
After Saturday's all EXP dailies, the dango exchange for all EXP cards, the Archer Pieces and Monuments, and the Knight EXP dailies that just started, I left my Lancelot a little behind and banked everything on Emiya, and got his third ascension already. Between the NP upgrade, a few ATK+ Fou cards from the dango events, and now this, I might keep him as a main for a bit.
... God that outfit is ugly. The "pick the outfit you like" option can't come fast enough. I hope the F/E CCC final outfit (the golden armor thingy) will be for one of the two alternate Emiyas. It was one of the good things to come out of it (with Robin, "ultimate" Gil being more recurrent, AUO cast off, and such), and I found it went well with Wada's art style (which I otherwise really don't  like)
Speaking of which, I'm expecting Assassin Emiya to have the outfit from Ufotable's UBW ending/flashbacks. The usual black armored clothes he already has in his second form, and a brown tattered cape > clean white cape > probably a red cape with some decorations for his final ascension. That would leave the CCC armor for Emiya Alter (like, just a black > red > gold palswap). It's doable.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 27, 2015, 10:09:04 pm
Yeah, I saw you putting him as leader. Between the Nero event and this event, raising Archers, Riders and Assassins to their third ascension is really easy. I mean, I just ascended Marie again and once I get her to 70 I will be able to ascend her again without needing to farm the materials. And here I though it would take me like half a year to get a third ascension in one of my Servants.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 27, 2015, 10:14:41 pm
I've been focusing on Ruler for most of the time only because of her ascension items.
But I won't be able to farm for Lancer Pieces right now and it sucks.

Isn't there a dungeon I can farm to get them?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 27, 2015, 10:30:00 pm
Silver lancer pieces can be dropped by shadow benkei in fuyuki city
Golden Lancer pieces require you to do the ascension daily quest
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 27, 2015, 10:33:11 pm
Silver lancer pieces can be dropped by shadow benkei in fuyuki city
Golden Lancer pieces require you to do the ascension daily quest

And just to warn you, that Shadow Benkei loves to make you suffer by not dropping those pieces at all. Once the Ascension daily starts, stick to it until the bitter end if you want to ascend that Ruler of yours.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 27, 2015, 11:01:03 pm
Yeah, the drop rates are awful. The ascension daily is terrible because not only the drop rate isn't good, on top of that, it can be anything from either of the three classes, and it can be pieces or monuments (when it's not a fucking Void's Refuse in a goddamn red chest why). So mostly you're gonna get the ones you don't want right now. My FSN Cu has also been stuck at 40 for ever, but at least I have the Talons from the Nero event.
Well, I guess for Ruler, it's a bit easier to swallow since she needs stuff from all three Knight classes, Pieces and Monuments, right ? I'm not sure, I never got her.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 27, 2015, 11:06:17 pm
Yeah, the drop rates are awful. The ascension daily is terrible because not only the drop rate isn't good, on top of that, it can be anything from either of the three classes, and it can be pieces or monuments (when it's not a fucking Void's Refuse in a goddamn red chest why). So mostly you're gonna get the ones you don't want right now. My FSN Cu has also been stuck at 40 for ever, but at least I have the Talons from the Nero event.
Well, I guess for Ruler, it's a bit easier to swallow since she needs stuff from all three Knight classes, Pieces and Monuments, right ? I'm not sure, I never got her.

Yeah she only needs Pieces and Monuments for her ascension materials.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 27, 2015, 11:10:06 pm
Oh, nothing else ? Well then the knight ascension daily is just perfect for her, just keep piling up everything for a day.

Silver lancer pieces
Golden Lancer pieces
The silver ones are the Pieces, the golden ones are Monuments.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 27, 2015, 11:57:25 pm
The amount you need to reach the third ascension for Jeanne in monuments is ridiculous though, and let's not talk about the fourth ascension. I would rather farm for some materials than monuments, at least for now since the only way to have a good chance to get monuments is to farm the 40 AP quest, and unless you're high level at most you'll be able to do it two times. Hopefully in future releases they make getting monuments way easier honestly.

Honestly, it's far far easier to just search someone who has done this for you, I have one support with a level 74 Jeanne that I myself can't believe it exists, and it works really well.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 28, 2015, 01:22:52 am
I think everyone's priority (Other than EXP and stats increase cards) should be Archer pieces, the rest you can farm from different maps. And you might not have Archers (Or might just have Arash which is almost the same) but look at them as a long time investment.

Actually it's not that hard to get the 2000 CE, I was at 2000 yesterday since I have a couple of dango CE stacked, but I decided to get monuments, EXP and stats up cards for Lancelot, I would need one more dango card to make that investment profitable but I didn't because there's no way in hell I'm relying on the extra CE I need dropping, not in this game.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 28, 2015, 02:17:08 am
Yeah, the thing with picking the card instead of everything else when you have 2k is that you basically need to go and collect all that again. So you kinda have to try and calculate if it's faster to use the CE to collect it all again and then more for everything you need, or if it's faster to not take the CE and just finish gathering some more dangos to get everything, even at a rate slightly lower because you don't have the extra CE.
But of course it's definitely useful if you actually intend to collect absolutely everything, in which case sure, go for all the CEs first. For any other case... Probably not. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy, you need all the cards first to get all the cards.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 28, 2015, 03:50:28 am
Well, if anything this should make things easier for everyone trying to calculate their earnings and dango profit:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rogD9KeyIHnWFNXSZ9esZStJbzeIKhjSOjLIrWPTZEs/edit#gid=140420500

Again there is very specific situations where you might want to get the 2K one, they're very situational but they do exist. If you're lucky enough to get two +3 drops from all the grind (That also means you'll be very likely to max out the CE!), then again time is running out so it's getting less and less likely for those situations to make profit.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 29, 2015, 12:01:04 am
I swear the 30 AP quest pisses me off sometimes because it ALWAYS. TARGETS. GILGAMESH.
Which forces me to reopen the game and find a new way to make Gil not die.

It's fucking annoying.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 29, 2015, 12:48:49 am
...Why are you farming the 30AP?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 29, 2015, 12:52:56 am
...Why are you farming the 30AP?

I get bored of farming the 5 AP sometimes/getting gold dango half the time.
Well that and to get some exp once in a while.
I should probably just stick to fucking up George sometimes.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 29, 2015, 06:22:18 am
Uh no?
If you're a masochist, you farm the 5AP because it's tedious as hell, if you want to be efficient, you farm the 5AP because it gives the best dango per AP ratio (even taking into account the gold one). There's little to no reason to do the rest, even if it's for EXP, unless your level is low enough that spending your entire AP on the 30AP gives you a refill every time.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 29, 2015, 06:38:07 am
Uh no?
If you're a masochist, you farm the 5AP because it's tedious as hell, if you want to be efficient, you farm the 5AP because it gives the best dango per AP ratio (even taking into account the gold one). There's little to no reason to do the rest, even if it's for EXP, unless your level is low enough that spending your entire AP on the 30AP gives you a refill every time.

I guess.
I probably don't know what I'm talking about anymore.

On a side note: Has anyone been lucky enough to pull a servant from the increased rates? Well if anyone has a reason to waste quartz that is.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 29, 2015, 10:24:30 am
I got an Ushi.


... From a friend roll.
I'm giving everything Rider to Medusa right now though, I got her third ascension. Pieces and Monuments and all that.
Oh right, it does mean I might need to pick up more Rider pieces...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 29, 2015, 11:16:08 am
I got her from a quartz roll haha ugh.

Oh well, I got my first Eric Bloodaxe from FP so I guess there's that? I swear this guy is more rare than a bunch of other 3* servants... I already maxed out Mephistopheles' NP...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 29, 2015, 11:35:47 am
Well, with a 3rd ascension Emiya with dango+3 and the Journey (I still keep it, I don't have enough dango CE for the full team, one +3 from dango shop, one drop, one Mooncell, one Jewel +2 from a ticket), and spamming the 5AP myself, I do like 40 to 50 FP rolls a day.
That got me one Ushi and a million 1* EXP and CEs.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 29, 2015, 12:32:10 pm
Speaking of friend rolls, I should PROOOOOOOOOOOBABLY waste my friend points.
I already have like 99+ friend point summons ready.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 29, 2015, 01:22:35 pm
Well, with a 3rd ascension Emiya with dango+3 and the Journey (I still keep it, I don't have enough dango CE for the full team, one +3 from dango shop, one drop, one Mooncell, one Jewel +2 from a ticket), and spamming the 5AP myself, I do like 40 to 50 FP rolls a day.
That got me one Ushi and a million 1* EXP and CEs.
Yeah, I've been using your EMIYA since he has three arts card and he helps build meter for everyone else and my farming team consists of Arash so I can get rid of the last wave with his NP.
I've been also getting more FP than usual, I guess people know that +3 IS the way to go.


ALSO YOROKOBE SHOUNEN-TACHI (https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3mtdql/4mil_download_campaign/)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 29, 2015, 01:39:59 pm
Arturia Alter. Time to buy quartz, then. And finally the login bonuses will be worth something.
someone on reddit said:
the best part is that we finally get more gold cards per 40ap. getting real sick of the usual 2* popping on every run
Word.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 29, 2015, 01:49:39 pm
I'm really really glad that they're revamping the daily login bonus, those 1* cards were practically junk, new dailies sound great too..

I wouldn't mind getting the servants with increased rate, I would especially like Kintoki (Since my account is full of Berserkers now so why not?)... actually I don't want Boudica, but other than that...

Not a single word on improving the drop rates but I guess the new EXP dailies are more than welcome, that paired with yet another half AP campaign.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 29, 2015, 09:18:32 pm
... ... ...

Half of me is extremely happy that they made the login bonus even better, the other half wants to murder DW and TM for making us go through this shitty amount of login bonuses before they changed it. Those constant 1* EXP cards still make me angry every time I log in.

The ascension 1/2 AP is something we all knew it was going to happen, so yay! I suppose the 1/2 AP for main quests is okay, I guess, if we need to farm some materials (though I don't see the logic on not doing it for the Interludes but oh well...). Also, yay super level. Guess the recent events have made them change the format of it. And finally no more shitty 1* EXP coming from the Servants and Shadow Servants. Now increase the chance of getting the monuments and pieces based on the difficulty of the quest please DW.

But hey, these changes are amazing. Just how much profit did this game bring that they don't mind doing this?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dark Waifu on September 30, 2015, 12:40:03 am
Finally able to get this thing running on a tablet. If anyone wants to add me
ID = 263919407
Name: メリアス
Leader: Saber Alter
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 30, 2015, 01:29:53 am
Seems like the game is having a 400 DL event soon.
(Or so I think, took a gander at the in-game news.)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 30, 2015, 02:01:42 am
ALSO YOROKOBE SHOUNEN-TACHI (https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3mtdql/4mil_download_campaign/)
It was barely a few posts ago.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 30, 2015, 02:34:23 am
KaiserHero, please start actually reading other people's posts.
Also, yay super level. Guess the recent events have made them change the format of it.
I still want an Extreme version of the ascension daily, farming for monuments is painful, more so if they're from the daily where you have  four classes competing between themselves. I swear getting the one Berserker monument I need will be hell (And then I need another ten more for the final one, Jesus)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 30, 2015, 03:43:58 am
Right, my apologies.

I've experienced the hell that is trying to get Lancer Pieces from Shadow Benkei.
I'd rather just wait for the Three Knights Ascension items event again.

Also since I'm on track, Black Grail CE seems quite riske.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 30, 2015, 11:12:51 am
I swear getting the one Berserker monument I need will be hell
Well, you can now buy it for prisms in the shop ! Just the one though, not the next 10.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on September 30, 2015, 12:25:49 pm
I think there's only Saber pieces and monuments at the moment. Hopefully they'll rotate them or something, I'm getting all the summoning tickets, I'm scared of running out of prisms though, I don't want to burn 3* cards just to get one (Sure you can even burn EXP but I'm too stingy with it)

Edit:
One 40 quartz roll, and a bunch of summoning tickets later.. no Kintoki.
At least I got a Kaleidoscope and all the new CEs...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 30, 2015, 01:08:53 pm
At least I got a Kaleidoscope and all the new CEs...

Lucky bastard.
I got Medusa in one of my summon ticket rolls.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 30, 2015, 01:44:02 pm
You got multiplied in the comments LOL. Anyway, I will get the chance to roll later, as I have no friend points, quartz nor tickets available right now.

Also, I just did Marie Antoinette second fight in the second interlude. It's not really hard honestly. Two fights against easy ghosts then one fight against Marie (not a Shadow one, so yeah, she can use her NP). Marie is more annoying than hard honestly, since she tends to spam that skill that makes her invincible for three attacks, allowing her 5-bar NP to fill a lot of times.

I wish they put a cooldown to the enemy skills. Not a big one like we have, but at least one that doesn't make fights turn into a "I'm going to spam every turn invincibility just to fuck with you". It makes fights more annoying than they should be.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 30, 2015, 02:17:19 pm
I think there's only Saber pieces and monuments at the moment.
I'm not home so I can't check but I'm looking at a screenshot and the text says "one of every types of piece/monument" so it seems to me like you get all 7 for 20/30 prisms. It's also called piece/monument *set* for the 4M DL campaign.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on September 30, 2015, 03:35:23 pm
Managed to pull Medea from the extra tickets I had.
Time to break the rules.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 30, 2015, 04:31:43 pm
I think there's only Saber pieces and monuments at the moment.
I'm not home so I can't check but I'm looking at a screenshot and the text says "one of every types of piece/monument" so it seems to me like you get all 7 for 20/30 prisms. It's also called piece/monument *set* for the 4M DL campaign.

Yep, it's one of every piece. Not really worth it honestly, it's just one piece and one monument, when you need more than that for 4* and 5* Servants, but I suppose one is better than nothing. The same applies for the skill gems too. Btw, get the skill gems last, they're worthless except perhaps the one with the highest rarity.

Also keep in mind we will be given Mana Prisms for daily bonuses so you don't need to go on a massive burning spree. We will get 150 MP, so make your calculations from there.

One hard thing I had to decide today, was to either continue farming the dangos (I could get 40 monuments in total when you can trade gold dangos, with 19 more monuments remaining to farm as I got all pieces) or use the fact that the Ascension quests are cheap to farm them. Guess I'll do a mix.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on September 30, 2015, 06:56:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/DNwWIfM.jpg)

Partway through France, I decided I needed an Assassin, so I did a friend-point summon and got Mata Hari.

edit: I swear Mata and Marie Antoinette have the same VA.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 30, 2015, 07:57:46 pm
If that's the only Assassin you got, then yeah, I guess you have no choice here. If you get another one, I highly recommend you to swap it. As much as I like her, as a fighter she sucks. Terrible low stats, not really usefull skills and worthless NP makes her the worst Assassin so far.

If this had been a war simulator, her Information Gathering (A++) and Pheromones (B) would make her one of the best spies in the game. As this isn't a war simulator, she's basically screwed.

Edit: Oh hey, it's a Servant! Oh hey, it's a Silver Saber... Oh hey, it's not Gilles, it's Caesar! My first one!

Expectation, disappointment and happiness. One single roll can bring you that much. I also got a Boudicca, but meh. And another Limited/Zero Over, the only 5* CE that I seem to get. Is this love?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on September 30, 2015, 10:05:52 pm
If that's the only Assassin you got, then yeah, I guess you have no choice here. If you get another one, I highly recommend you to swap it. As much as I like her, as a fighter she sucks. Terrible low stats, not really usefull skills and worthless NP makes her the worst Assassin so far.

If this had been a war simulator, her Information Gathering (A++) and Pheromones (B) would make her one of the best spies in the game. As this isn't a war simulator, she's basically screwed.

I see.

After doing some more friend point summons, I managed to get the legendary dragon slayer himself.

(http://i.imgur.com/uQfNLBw.jpg)

(also Eric Bloodaxe, Mephistoples, and Mozart in a separate batch, but I already have Lu Bu and Medea.)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on September 30, 2015, 10:07:45 pm
Oh my god the new 40AP expert EXP daily is incredible. Just three or four quartz and I got Sir Zerkalot to his fourth ascension (Archer EXP go to Emiya, I'm holding out on Saber EXP in case I roll Arturia Alter but I can still spend a few here and there, and FSNCu doesn't need to climb up very fast).
Plus Zerkalot's NP with Master ATK up can still clean up the final wave of the 40AP in one shot, soooo Kaleidoscope goes back to him and my other couple best can get a Sakura.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on September 30, 2015, 10:20:04 pm
Yeah, the reward of that quest is amazing. The majority of drops are Gold EXP, and you can only get Gold or Silver EXP. Leveling is so much fast now. And as always, Hands of Dawn are easy to kill, even if they have more HP.

I'm really praying that I get a Saber Alturia, that way I finally have a Servant that focuses on attacking. d'Eon is unfortunately support. In fact, I have too much support characters LOL. I seriously need more firepower.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on September 30, 2015, 10:45:09 pm
>Attempt to roll
>THe circles on the gatcha screen are yellowish
>what
>Yellow Saber
>Motherfucking Saber Alter
THe singles meme is right,holy fucking shit.
Sorry,Chevalier,but you're getting fucking replaced the second I level Alter up.

Also the new 40 AP quest is really damn good,although it really makes me hate the fact that its a 40 ap quest because I can only do it twice before needing to wait.And I don't really have a lot of quartz to waste
I decided I needed an Assassin
What,my chinalady not good enough for you :(
Just kidding,Mata Hari is probably one of the worst assassins in the game so far.You better hope to get Hassan or Kojiro from FP rolls,hell even Phantom of the Opera is a better assassin than her.
Unless you just want big titties,then its either her or Carmilla.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 01, 2015, 04:04:16 am
Yeah I only skimmed through the store but then I noticed that it was one of each.
I'll definitely get that one monument I need later (I need more prisms from daily log in), I'm still working on dangos, but at this rate I might be able to buy everything off the store (Except for the 5K CE.. maybe)

I saw screenshots of people's drops from the 40AP, it was mostly gold, that's awesome. I'll be farming it after this event.

...Aaand I got a second Kaleido from a summmoning ticket, no Robin Hood, No Martha, No Saber Alter, no Kintoki.

Edit:
If he only wasn't a 1*, I'd set him as my friend summon for whoever still needs to save France
(http://i.imgur.com/MyGvHnU.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 01, 2015, 05:46:01 am
Well....looks like I know what I'm wasting my prisms on.

(http://i.imgur.com/MW5AsZI.jpg)

(Even though it's only one set for the monuments.)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 01, 2015, 12:19:39 pm

...Aaand I got a second Kaleido from a summmoning ticket, no Robin Hood, No Martha, No Saber Alter, no Kintoki.


Welcome to my reality too. Even with these awesome rewards, we still have E Luck. Friend roll gave me better rewards than the tickets, as I finally have an Andersen. WTF is wrong with me...

At least I'm done farming dangos! I have enough to get all monuments now! Now to abuse the EXP missions. I may have to consider raising my Servant limit, since with all the Servants I have I'm running out of space for the EXP cards.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 02, 2015, 07:05:09 am
Alright fellas, we can trade our gold dangos for normal dangos now.
Have fun.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 02, 2015, 07:26:50 am
All that farming paid off.
http://i.imgur.com/O1N2i3x.png
http://i.imgur.com/ytOTxZ6.png

The CE's actual effect is nice, +20% Star generation and Criticals? This would be amazing if I had a Gilgamesh so for now it'll either go on Lancelot, Kojiro or Hassan.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 02, 2015, 11:50:25 am
Oh wow, that's a lot of Gold Dangos. I farmed every day and I only got 4000. Well, as long as I got all the pieces monuments it was enough for me.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 02, 2015, 12:12:36 pm
I only bought the 500 CE, and then got lucky and two more dropped on the 5AP (I used one quartz to refresh AP to make profit according to my calculations but since another CE dropped I was able to max it out without buying the 5K one)

I have zero good archers but I got everything as a future investment, maybe I'll get Robin Hood someday.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 02, 2015, 02:20:42 pm
Hold your hands as if you were about to pray and hope the quartz roll gives you that. I find it annoying how, even with the increased chance, you still get other Servants. I don't need another Mephistopheles, thank you very much game.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 02, 2015, 02:26:56 pm
I'm not spending any more quartz, I'm at 40 and I'm saving that for a better event, as much as I wanted Kintoki he's not my priority.

I can at least count on the summoning tickets I can buy with prisms... but summoning tickets never give me good stuff (A friend got Saber Alter though)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 02, 2015, 02:27:20 pm
Bunch of tickets, 3* shit CEs turned prisms turned tickets, last rolls, and buying a bunch of quartz gave me shit (runestones, Taiga, more Boudiccas, tons of keys, pendants, reeds, Shinjis, a Heaven's Feel which is okay). Not buying anything again for a long while. Or rolling. Quartz are much better spent with refills now that a refill is nearly 110AP and not 40, and the EXP super difficulty are worth a lot.

edit
A lv55 Kintoki in my Friend list hits barely 5.5k in a Buster Chain. My lv61 Lancelot hits for 13+K in the same Buster Chain (10+k in a non-Buster Chain). Sure that's without activating Kintoki's Monstruous Strength (and I did give Lancelot a few ATK+ Fou cards, but no more than 5 in total), but, yeah, I won't be sad if I don't get him, I don't care if he's supposed to have the highest stats in the game when maxed out (I assume he's a reverse S progression curve or something). More annoyed at the lack of Arturia Alter.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 03, 2015, 05:44:10 pm
Oh hey, I forgot that now the hard Master EXP quest is 30 AP! That's really useful honestly, I managed to get three levels before running out of AP because I was too high-leveled.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 03, 2015, 09:23:35 pm
Question:
How's this setup?
(http://i.imgur.com/w2toCQi.jpg)

And should I put Waver up front or keep him as backup?

(also I forgot that the event ended so I'm going to switch up essences for some servants.)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 04, 2015, 02:02:51 am
You have Jeanne which acts as a tank and Tamamo Cat as glass cannon. I would switch the friend summon position with your Waver, that way you can give his amazing attack and defense buffs to your Servants which will instantly benefit from it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 04, 2015, 06:28:18 pm
Yeah I'm back in! But my friends aren't.

ID:694,481,409

If anyone wants to add me, that'd be swell
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 04, 2015, 10:59:44 pm
I poured all my (gold) love into her, until it finally blossomed.

(http://i.imgur.com/EAfhGg2.jpg)

It wasn't unrequired, btw. Two Super Successes in a row. I don't even believe it myself. Looks like I was destined to get her at her third ascension today. I have to thank Nero and the Dango event for this. Without them I would have never reached her third ascension before Okeanos. Let's hope Okeanos is not full of assassins.

Who would have though that the Servant I picked in that free 4* Servant event would be the one to reach first. I feel sorry for d'Eon, if only they had given us more Saber pieces... And the funny thing here is that I can even ascend her a last time once she reaches max level again.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 05, 2015, 01:33:09 am
I got Lancelot's third one recently as well, and no he's 70 thanks to the 40AP... and now the grind for TEN Berserker monuments starts, ugh...
And my two summoning tickets today were a bust, Rune stone CE and Rin CE. Bleh.

I might level Marie Antoniette as well, or my Carmilla, I haven't ascended the rest of my berserkers yet because Lancelot took all the EXP and pieces so I have to grind for that as well and get pieces, I just want their interlude.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 05, 2015, 07:50:34 pm
Right now I'm trying to get enough pieces to get the second Ascension for Lancer Cu and d'Eon, thanks to the fact that the ascension quests are still 1/2 AP. So far, it seems like Lancer Cu will be the first. I'm even getting monuments for his future third Ascension wtf.

Edit: Welp, Lancer Cu at second Ascension. Now I need 4 Saber pieces for d'Eon. So yeah, you can stop dropping them game, I got plenty enough.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 05, 2015, 09:40:52 pm
I have finally managed to ascend Jeanne.
Also do Lancer monuments ever drop? All I've been getting from Elizabeth are Lancer pieces and never any monuments.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 05, 2015, 09:49:44 pm
Presumably the drop rate for monuments is higher at higher AP quests so stick to the 30 (or rather 15) AP quest, but it's still all over the place kind of rare. Lancers aren't very lucky.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 06, 2015, 10:06:56 am
The chance of getting them is still ridiculously low, even in the 30 AP quest. I have repeated this quest 20 times, and I only got 3 monuments in total. Plenty of pieces to achieve all the Knight ascensions I needed, but monuments are just damn rare.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 06, 2015, 11:21:22 am
I was checking the stat progression files and I noticed that raising Emiya and Lancelot past Lv 70 is useless since they both barely gain 300 points in both ATK and HP. Time to focus on someone else.
Heracles is linear and reaches the same stats, but with crazy Mad Enhancement and Divinity, and single target NP... but those ascension mats x_x
On the other hand, I ticket rolled a second Lancelot yesterday, my Vulcan gun now breaks 100k, to 140k with Master ATK up \o/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 06, 2015, 11:43:13 am
Sadly my OCD won't let me stop until I've maxed out Lancelot, but the next ascension will take a while so I can finally distribute my EXP on the rest of my berserkers, ascend them and get their interlude.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 06, 2015, 03:37:26 pm
It has been made possible.
(http://i.imgur.com/uC0wq3Ml.jpg)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 07, 2015, 01:11:49 pm
Who likes puzzles?
http://graoda.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-204.html
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 07, 2015, 01:42:05 pm
Oh yeah, somebody posted that a long time ago in the Beast Lair forum. That's how they make breasts jiggle LOL. And they also added that profile image which I'm not sure yet who she is.

And don't mind my sig, people. Just making a new change to adapt to the new times.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 07, 2015, 02:43:37 pm
And they also added that profile image which I'm not sure yet who she is.
Which one ? You mean the huge underboobs in black "armor" ? That's Lancer Arturia Alter with Rhongomyniad, isn't it ? They pumped up that lance in the Garden of Avalon short stories, it's a perfect fit.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 07, 2015, 02:54:44 pm
The lance fits... but the body of Arturia doesn't quite fit honestly.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 07, 2015, 03:07:21 pm
Does Medusa not have an interlude yet or what?
Won't let me do hers for some reason so I thought you guys might know.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 07, 2015, 03:57:01 pm
Yes, she has one. If you see it, that's the one. If you can't get in, it's because you didn't complete a requirement. One ascension (more for those who have more than one interlude), a certain bond level (changes depending on the Servant), and finishing the map where the interlude is.
The lance fits... but the body of Arturia doesn't quite fit honestly.
She's an adult. If I got it right, this is an Arturia that never pulled Caliburn - so she didn't stop aging. The difference between 16 and 26 y.o. could be how they handwave that (I know, that's not realistic, I said handwave). Other than that, same face (art style notwithstanding), even the same hairdo, that makes it pretty obvious, she looks exactly like Saber Alter.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 07, 2015, 04:13:44 pm
Arturia always had the possibility of being summoned as a Lancer too because of that lance (though because Excalibur is the weapon that everybody associates her with the chances of that are really slim, like Gilles being summoned as Saber instead of Caster because of his infamous legend). But even in that case she should have been summoned with the same body as when she's a Saber. She had both weapons before she died after all (and it's this lance the one that killed Mordred too). It doesn't make sense that they summon her as a what-if she had never obtained that sword, Arturia only exists as legend precisely because she drew it.

But hey, more bizarre things have been made in the Fate universe, like genderbending Attila, making Mozart fan of dirty jokes or ROMA being ROMA, so yeah, it's one of those cases where I need to apply the "It's like this because it's like this" logic and just accept it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 07, 2015, 04:56:41 pm
Yes, she has one. If you see it, that's the one. If you can't get in, it's because you didn't complete a requirement. One ascension (more for those who have more than one interlude), a certain bond level (changes depending on the Servant), and finishing the map where the interlude is.

Ah damn. How did I forget about bonding?
Also about Artoria Lancer Alter, I'm quite interested to see what her NP is like.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 07, 2015, 05:18:42 pm
Who knows, but most likely it will have an "Ignore Defense" effect if it follows the legend. Apart from that, I don't know.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 07, 2015, 05:28:48 pm
There's little chance it'll follow the legend. In Garden of Avalon, it's called the light that shine at the end of the world and it serves as an anchor regarding the world flipping over to the fairy world... or something, I don't get all the details. Something to do with Brittany being a land where the age of Gods was extended to the 6th century (in GoA, Vortigern turns into a bigass dragon and ends up impaled and crucified on the spear).
Like I said, from what I read left and right, Arturia Lancer won't be the same Arturia we have but an alternate history version that never drew Caliburn. Thus the body that grew up. I don't know if there was any official info about that, but it fits so far. I don't see why it would be a problem to have a different version that didn't draw Caliburn "even though drawing Caliburn is precisely what made her / him legendary". Maybe it'll be Grail shenanigans, or Flauros / other demon, or Morgan shenanigans, who knows.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 07, 2015, 06:05:57 pm
because waver and sakura are so legendary, right ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 07, 2015, 06:14:47 pm
They're not the ones being summoned though, they're just hosts (read : a reason for fanservice).
But it's been like that for a while, the heroes aren't an exact match for our legends, sometimes the legend itself is different in Nasuverse, and sometimes the "fact" doesn't even match the Nasu legend (examples : Eric Bloodaxe killing a magic beast, Attila being a chick).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 07, 2015, 10:45:50 pm
Unrelated: So I just pulled Robin Hood, and I was wondering if he's better than Alexander for the time being.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 08, 2015, 12:05:21 am
I haven't tried him out yet (slowly building him up first), but from what I see of him, he's nice (unless you're the type that likes Berserkers and just look for the Buster cards all day long). He puts ATK down on enemy team, he's got Golden Rule (increased NP charge rate for 3 turns, so use all his cards when you see them), and from what I've seen, his NP can be set up for humongous damage, but if I understand it right, you have to use it once to poison the enemy, and then use it again to make the poison blow up.
In a nutshell, give him a CE that increases Arts efficiency (Formalcraft type) or increases his NP charge rate (Heaven's Feast type), charge and fire his NP, focus on him for the next three turns (ignoring whatever attractive Buster Chain may come if it doesn't favor him), charge his NP a second time, and profit. I haven't checked his stats, but my guess is he needs someone to push his defense (like one of those strong Caster supports or Mashu or Martha for team debuff removal + heal), unless Sabotage is enough (probably not if the battle lasts several turns). Among people posting screenshots boasting insane high damage, his NP was one of the best I've seen, short of a maxed Heracles Buster-Buster-Nine Lives Brave Chain with Bravery, Charisma and Master ATK up stacked.
That being said, learning to use him properly makes him more of a boss killer, and really doesn't sound like something you would bother to do against regular enemies or even against more than one target (though Sabotage ATK down on enemy team is always nice). Basically use him against Altera in Rome (including class rock-paper-scissor damage). If it's a boss battle that takes forever, you can even replace the NP rate increase CE for a NP damage boost (Heaven's Feel type).

Alexander is pretty straight forward and works in any team, with Charisma, some Crit Star generating capacity, and decent power. If you want to build a perfect team, Robin is a good opportunity to go nuts, and if you want to pick whoever you like, Alexander will fit anywhere.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on October 08, 2015, 01:37:50 am
I did it, I saved France.

Sasaki da real mvp, got the finishing blow on Ruler Alter, and then killed her dragons.

Then the Grand Battle with Gilles was piss easy.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 10, 2015, 06:03:41 pm
Yeah, Ruler Alter is harder than Gilles. Honestly, I was a bit pissed off that after that incredibly hard fight, you get a last fight against a really weak Caster, which is supposed to be the final boss of the whole area. Though on the opposite side we get Attila's battle in Rome which is really hard to win without CS (but that was before getting better Archers, who knows how hard it is now).

Btw, are we going to have a Halloween event or not? I'm sorta expecting them to do one, raising your chance to get Carmilla and Vlad.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 10, 2015, 06:48:23 pm
I never thought I'd say this but......

Soloing things with Jeanne is really fun sometimes.

EDIT: Just checked the twitter.

https://twitter.com/fgoproject/status/653044100304801792
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 11, 2015, 10:52:22 am
And I just mentioned that yesterday LOL

Nothing confirmed yet, but I've been reading that if you clear the new events you get Servant Elizabeth. What we don't know is if this Elizabeth is a new Servant or not.

But hey, even if it's not a new Servant, I'm happy I can get my hands on Servant for free, and I do like Elizabeth. Hopefully she's not Saber Lily tier.

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Edit: Confirmed that we will get a 4* Elizabeth, and that it will be a new Servant. Nasu confirmed it himself. We still don't know her class nor stats though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 11, 2015, 03:25:44 pm
And I just mentioned that yesterday LOL

Nothing confirmed yet, but I've been reading that if you clear the new events you get Servant Elizabeth. What we don't know is if this Elizabeth is a new Servant or not.

But hey, even if it's not a new Servant, I'm happy I can get my hands on Servant for free, and I do like Elizabeth. Hopefully she's not Saber Lily tier.

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Edit: Confirmed that we will get a 4* Elizabeth, and that it will be a new Servant. Nasu confirmed it himself. We still don't know her class nor stats though.

Well that's pretty convenient.
I want to guess that she's still a Lancer but maybe she'll be a different class.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 11, 2015, 11:34:40 pm
Ugh, more content that isn't really actual content and will keep delaying Okeanos. And giving out specific characters like Elizabeth is nothing but waifuism, which isn't all that interesting for anyone who doesn't have that particular character for waifu. At least Gil was guaranteed to be loved and worshiped by everyone and Orion was kind of a surprise (plus it had actual story content, even if it was really simplistic), no one would have seen it coming if it weren't for the datamining.
I mean, of course an event for Halloween is to be expected, but in this case, we all know it'll only delay Okeanos. It's supposed to be 6 chapters in a year, and we're closing in on three months already.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 12, 2015, 12:55:40 am
It sucks because there's literally nothing to do aside from leveling my servants and gathering ascension items now. I just want to get Okeanos over with already.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 12, 2015, 02:41:25 am
Oh right, I third ascended Nero and Robin today. My other (4/5*) Servants are Elizabeth and Zhuge and I haven't done much with them. All three Cus are stuck with missing material for their third ascensions, and I dropped Caesar at lv50 before his third when Nero took over the Saber spot (he needs Infinity Gears and fuck that). I've also had third ascended Medusa and Cursed Arm Hassan for some time, and an Ushiwakamaru at second ascension, and I haven't touched Medea much in a while. That's about it.
Still hoping Okeanos and later chapters will make it easier to get material. ... Now if only Okeanos actually decided to show the fuck up...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 12, 2015, 07:09:50 am
I was lucky enough to pull both With One Strike and The Black Grail but I don't really have a use for them yet. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 12, 2015, 02:01:33 pm
Taiga CE will only be useful when facing a Servant / Shadow Servant that keeps using Eye of the Mind / Arrow Evasion. I don't really know about the Black Grail, it'd have to be put on someone worth it, able to charge up an NP fast enough. It might be fun putting it on Arash if it's viable, or on Spartacus with his revive - gain NP skill followed by NP that gives life back.

But the norm in this game is that most of the time, you're just better off picking a strong Berserker and going Buster all day long. These strategies are nice, but at the end of the day, it's often hard to set up right and it takes time.
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http://typemoon.com/news/2015/0f0svz
First things first : Okeanos in early November after Halloween event.
"Adventure in the castle of the singing pumpkin" that's the name of the event. Have to have Orleans cleared first.
"Elizabeth (Halloween)" is a Caster.
Item golden apple to recharge AP, possible to overcharge (have more AP than your max) when using one or a quartz.
Battle sprite selection.
More UI changes, and other minor stuff.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 12, 2015, 04:32:09 pm
Translation here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3ofhof/next_producer_letter_coming_at_the_end_of_october/

Golden Apple? Did we have this item before? Didn't know there was another way to refill AP apart from Quartz.

And Elizabeth is a Caster... well, I somehow expected it because Lancer class didn't fit quite well with the Halloween theme. Oh well, hopefully her stats and skills makes her even better than Medea, but beating Medea's really high NP generation and her skill that fills her NP completely is something really hard to beat.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 12, 2015, 04:33:32 pm
... Well no ? It's a new thing.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 12, 2015, 04:48:34 pm
Oh yeah, I didn't read the part that it was added. But honestly, if they do add this item but it's really rare to adquire, you're probably better off spending a quartz than farming for them.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 12, 2015, 04:53:33 pm
I'm expecting it to sell for 20 Mana Prisms in the shop or something like that. Or a reward from a new type of daily quests.
Do we know what EliCaster will have as skills ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 12, 2015, 04:57:51 pm
Nope, only that she will be a 4* Caster. They haven't said anything about her apart from that, and they still have to add her information in the game, so we can't get any datamined info.

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Oh, and just to remind the few people in this thread that play, this event can only be played if you've beaten France. I highly doubt there's somebody in this thread who hasn't beaten it yet, but in case there is, go do it right now. A free 4* Servant is always appreciated.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 13, 2015, 04:02:22 am
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/861e435127bae150583aba189d441f99/tumblr_nw4yss0B9b1td9veto1_1280.png)
Yeah, I think I'm definitely prepared for Okeanos now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 13, 2015, 05:04:38 am
Jeez, how are you guys getting all these ascension items? I blew out 2 whole AP bars just trying to get one Archer statue!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 13, 2015, 09:59:39 am
I keep fighting Emiya and Gilgamesh, getting Archer Pieces and Monuments. Not one Lancer or Saber Monument. And that's whether I do the 10 or 15 AP, too. The randomization is just shit.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 13, 2015, 01:07:15 pm
I haven't bothered with today's ascension, I've been racking up exp and I'm almost done capping most of my servants.
I'll farm for berserker monuments though.

We've been getting lots of materials from the events (Nero and Orion), that's been helping a lot.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 13, 2015, 10:43:30 pm
I'm getting a lot of pieces and monuments... except for Caster ones, which I need. Oh well, once I level up Kiyohime to max level I will be able to get her third ascension.

Btw, we will have maintenance time tomorrow, with 4 apology quartz coming. Just to warn you.

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Oh hey, a new Gacha... with Saber Gilles having a high chance to be obtained... yeah I'm not doing this one. I would rather keep my quartz for a 40-quartz roll when Okeanos comes out.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 14, 2015, 06:54:17 pm
Out of all of the possible servants, why did it have to be Saber Gilles? Should've been Caster Gilles if you ask me.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 15, 2015, 01:12:21 pm
Congrats on getting a good servant, Preacher.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 16, 2015, 10:44:31 pm
Out of all of the possible servants, why did it have to be Saber Gilles? Should've been Caster Gilles if you ask me.

You have a goddamn Jeanne, you don't get to complain.

Btw, to rub it in your face, I have both. With Saber Gilles at NP 5. Hahahahahaha... ... ...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 16, 2015, 11:08:57 pm
Congrats on getting a good servant, Preacher.

Caesar had been good to me, but you better believe I put his fat ass on the bench the second I leveled her up enough
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 17, 2015, 02:26:30 am
From 3* to a glorious 5*, that's not bad at all, I have yet to pull a 5* servant.

So, I'm done maxing out all my servants, and I don't want to ascend a bunch of them past their first one because ascension mats are a gigantic pain to farm and I'm saving them for a better servant. All I do now is just farm EXP cards and burn them for mana prisms, Okeanos can't come soon enough. At least I'll be able to level up caster Liz right away.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 17, 2015, 09:14:56 am
I just recently saw what S.D. means, since Preacher hasn't posted any image about it yet. Basically, I see you got Attila... If you don't pay in this game, I seriously want your luck.

Oh well, four more days for Liza Castle event. After how hilarious the dango event was, I hope they added a story for this one too.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 17, 2015, 01:18:18 pm
Yeah, it does have a story.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on October 17, 2015, 02:15:24 pm
Basically, I see you got Attila... If you don't pay in this game, I seriously want your luck.

Nope, haven't paid a single yen, just a random summoning ticket drop. She's my third 5 star after Jeanne and Zhuge Liang.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on October 18, 2015, 12:29:37 am
Did they nerf the log in bonuses again?I'm not getting any quartz anymore
Also really close to getting that final ascension for Jing Ke and not that far from getting one for Proto Cu too
But I need like 8 golden assassin monuments and I can already see that thats gonna take forever
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 18, 2015, 12:33:57 am
Uh ? The quartz weren't a daily thing, at least not outside of the 4M DL campaign that lasted, what, 15 days ? The regular daily login bonus was, I think, one quartz on the fourth day and one or two on the seventh day, something like that, then more in the tenth, twentieth, fiftieth and so on, or something.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 18, 2015, 12:23:21 pm
I'm a fucking idiot. I got that ticket from the daily bonus, and instead of using it in the Story gatcha, which was my plan, I used it in the special gatcha because I was not paying attention, earning myself a goddamn Saber Gilles.

I'm a fucking idiot, seriously.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 18, 2015, 03:07:16 pm
Uh ? The quartz weren't a daily thing, at least not outside of the 4M DL campaign that lasted, what, 15 days ? The regular daily login bonus was, I think, one quartz on the fourth day and one or two on the seventh day, something like that, then more in the tenth, twentieth, fiftieth and so on, or something.

10 Quartz on the 75th day, 20 on the 100th day and 20 more every 50th day after that, according to my sources.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 18, 2015, 03:13:01 pm
I'm a fucking idiot. I got that ticket from the daily bonus, and instead of using it in the Story gatcha, which was my plan, I used it in the special gatcha because I was not paying attention, earning myself a goddamn Saber Gilles.

I'm a fucking idiot, seriously.
don't sweat it, the story gatcha would have given you a Shinji anyway.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 18, 2015, 09:15:34 pm
don't sweat it, the story gatcha would have given you a Shinji anyway.

You're right, I shouldn't care about it. After all, I just got this beauty of a friend roll here:

(http://i.imgur.com/F1YkEyp.jpg)

My entire family wondered why I screamed of joy LOL. Though the fact that I have Kiyohime at her third ascension makes me a bit angry that I haven't got him before.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 19, 2015, 01:26:33 am
That's pretty good for a FP roll.
I wish I could land the 3* servants I'm missing (Caster Gilles, Alexander, Jing Ke) because burning all these EXP cards seems a bit of a waste (Sorta, the prisms are nice I guess)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 19, 2015, 01:51:17 am
I think I've got every last 1-3* Servant available. Most of them with a lv3~5 NP. I'm only FP rolling when I need just one or two 2* EXP card to jump a level with someone. And I've maxed or nearly maxed my Kaleido and the few other 4-5* CEs I have (of course by maxed I mean lv20, I'd need duplicates of 5* cards to go any further). So I'm just not FP rolling anymore. Waiting for Okeanos to drop.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 19, 2015, 02:36:24 am
I think they were going to rework the FP system and gacha, I haven't really done any FP rolls in a while, I have 40 or so draws saved, I have little to no incentive to roll, I mean, sure I could get the 3*'s I'm missing but I'll most likely get EXP cards and I have no use for those (If only we could use those to level up CEs)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 20, 2015, 01:34:39 am
Ugh. A couple days ago, I finally spent my last quartz farming seeds and twin crystals. A few hours ago, I got my 75 login bonus as 10 quartz and a couple more for regular daily. I just finished spending every last one of them, plus one level up in the middle (I now have 120 AP) ; I am now sitting with (not sure how many of those I had before today, but still) 21 Saber Pieces, 35 Archer Pieces, 23 Lancer Pieces (I definitely had only 5 this morning), 6 Saber Monuments (2 this morning), 19 Archer Monuments (9), and just now, finally that last fourth Lancer Monument... for FSNCu's third ascension.

Did I mention I have no Saber or Archer to spend all this on ? considering I'm skipping Nero and Emiya's fourth ascensions.

Fuck you, game.
Not third ascending ProtoCu, and not even touching Elizabeth.

With that being said, they must have increased just a little the drop rate for all those things, didn't they ? I did get all that from about 50 runs of the 30 AP, it does feel like it's a lot... Just a lot of something I don't care for.

I wish there were a slight chance of rolling material. Not a big chance, maybe as much as rolling a gold Servant to roll a silver material in the FP roll, and gold material only in the quartz roll, but at least it would take away from the CEs and EXP cards (no, not from the Servants !), and it would make FP rolls a little useful again.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 20, 2015, 11:35:29 am
Halloween event details
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/sj065e
Huh, so it's an actual map, like Orleans and Rome.
Starts on the 21st at 6PM JST, until Nov. 4 at 2PM, written by Nasu and Higashide, Servants have popped up at the pumpkin castle, Caster Eliza is guaranteed if you finish it, it has free quests too, and guerilla quests that open from 12 to 1PM and from 8 to 9PM every day so look out for them on the map (aw god damn motherfucker)
Items are pumpkin lantern, fake bat, sweet candle, little cake, can be use in the shop until Nov. 11
Pumpkin lantern can buy you another Elicaster copy, a Maid in Halloween CE 5*, crystallized legend, Berserker Pieces and Monuments
Fake bats can buy Elicaster, Halloween Princess 5* CE, Tinkle candy item, Saber Pieces / Monuments
Sweet candle buys Elicaster, trick or treat 3* CE, dragon reverse scales, Lancer Pieces / Monuments
Little cakes buy elicaster, ghost lanterns, dragon teeth, unlucky bones, Caster p/m, and 3*/4* exp cards.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 20, 2015, 12:10:55 pm
It seems like it's time for Lancelot's final ascension.
This seems pretty good, I'm kinda bored of farming dailies and all my servants are maxed out (except for Tamamo so I guess she's also getting her first ascension)

You know, Crystallized Legends are always the most expensive item of the event, people claim that those are only used to max out skills but I feel like they might be needed for something else, hopefully I'm wrong because I've missed all of them so far.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 20, 2015, 02:19:20 pm
Ugh... Tamamo Caster is available now in the gatcha. But Okeanos is close too... As much as I like her, Okeanos takes priority. Sorry, Tamamo. Medea will continue being my best Caster for now.

Tamamo Cat, Darius III, Mephistopheles and Carmilla have increased rate too. No Vlad even though it's Halloween?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 20, 2015, 02:36:13 pm
Vlad's a 5*, and I guess they wanted to make it really worthwhile with that 5* Tamamo, it's more unique while Vlad is already available like the other 4*.
Apparently Tamamo will be available again in chapter 4, anyway.

Uh, it seem like guerilla quests and party time are not the same thing, I misread on my phone and thought they were. So guerilla quests will just show at random and party time quests are time specific (12 to 1 P. And 8 to 9 PM)
And each type of quest drops one different item (little cakes are dropped by all quests). ... Urgh. This will be painful. Really hope the AP cost for quests will be low, otherwise it's gonna be fucking insane.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 20, 2015, 09:39:06 pm
It's already quite confusing as it is. Hopefully it's more simple and easy to farm than it seems.

I'm fully prepare for this event myself, as I finally managed to ascend Ushiwakamaru a third time so I have nothing better to do. I swear, farming that last ghost lantern was really painful to do.

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So I checked this:

https://www.facebook.com/FGOStory/posts/188456701487533

Wow, Tamamo Caster NP reduces skill cooldown by 1 (I wonder if Overcharging decreases cooldown a lot more). Taking into account that Casters specialize in gathering NP fast, this is quite amazing. It also increases NP too. A support character for what it looks like, and a good one. Damn it, holding temptation so much.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 21, 2015, 01:08:14 am
(http://i.imgur.com/THt01Sp.jpg)
So my strategy for these farming events is to 10x roll once to get CE's to support me in the event and then go from there... but uh, my only worry is gettign Mephistopheles. I already have one at LV5NP, ugh.. I do want to get most of the prizes, we'll see I might cave in but I'm already expecting at least one Mephistopheles.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 21, 2015, 02:51:05 pm
That if you're even able to log in. I only managed to log in for the first quest, and that's it. Game keeps getting stuck in endless loading. Seriously, I though DW was already prepared for this, but it seems not.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 21, 2015, 03:09:25 pm
There's no point in jumping right from the start, you have 2 weeks.
Holy hell, those devillya and succubiri 5* CEs are really good, NP charge boost AND NP start up plus strong stat bonuses.
I'm already reading that the drop rates for shop items are bad, but we'll see where it's at in a week. I won't be able to play it a lot this week anyway.
For farming, since the items are specific to the type of quest, if you manage to get multiple copies of the special CEs, I guess you can have two teams using the right CEs and switch between them for the right quest. Apparently the enemies are weak anyway (if you have some Lv 50~70 Berserker of course) and the quests cost 10, 20 or 30 AP depending on the type. Lol I'm really not going to try too hard for this one.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 21, 2015, 03:55:26 pm
An assured 4* Caster with quite good abilities is a pretty good reward, so yeah, I'm not really in a hurry here since that's all I want. Apart from that, I will try to get Mephistopheles to first ascension and Medea to second ascension, and most likely drop the event if I get bored of it after that. Honestly, Okeanos is what I just can't wait, and I hope they improve the server so it can handle the amount of users connected.

Btw guys, according to some people there's a bug that depletes your AP if you log in now, so yeah, in case it's true wait a few more hours before logging in.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dark Waifu on October 21, 2015, 05:55:26 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ycvazAR.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 21, 2015, 08:06:35 pm
Oh hey, I connected right now and the connection is much much better. Try it now if you were like me and waited for later.

Btw, why is Kiyohime in that event, helping you? And for what it seems, Kiyohime is officially one of your Servants, regardless if you burnt her after getting her in Orleans or not, as she calls you Master in that event.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 21, 2015, 09:48:06 pm
Well it makes sense since it requires you to have finished Orléans, therefore having received her at least once. Much like how in Fuyuki, Orléans and Rome, certain Servants helping you through the story called you their Master. It's not important if you didn't keep her, just like how it's not important if you're going through an interlude without having that Servant in your party.

Oh right, so they added the ability to pick the sprite you want to display in battle from the "party > cards" menu, but also, they fixed a bug that made your Servant who's leader of the last party used appear as the support for your friends, and changed it to use the leader of the first party always, because... that was how it was supposed to be since the beginning ? Okay, if you say so...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 22, 2015, 12:28:31 am
So I can finally switch Kiyohime's ugly third ascension sprite to her first ascension sprite. Glad to know that.

Also, I'm glad I have decided to put zero effort in this event. Making enemies have a chance to drop the items instead of being a guaranteed drop is quite bullshit because RNG will not love you most likely. Oh well, RNG is really kind with the ghosts giving me plenty of Ghosts Lanterns. Not sure if they're supposed to drop them in that event but hey, not complaining.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 22, 2015, 01:00:44 am
I dunno, the drop rates aren't too bad if you got the proper CEs. Cupcakes and candles are easy to get in the regular quests, bats seem to be just a little harder but they're supposed to show in the party time quests, same with the pumpkins. Since it lasts two weeks, for someone who puts efforts in it (and has access to the right timezones for the time limited quests...), it shouldn't be too difficult to clean up the shop.
Oh, and there are numbers on the maps, people think they're the time slots when the guerrilla quests pop up. ... They're even worse than the party time slots. People on the West Coast should be able to catch one time slot, but over here, it's always during the night or while at work. So I'm screwed for the guerrilla, and screwed for the pumpkins, unless I find some time to play during my vacation next week.

On the other hand, I gold ticket rolled the Petit Devil CE (on the 4th try). Pumpkin drop up, NP charge at start, NP charge rate up, same ATK bonus as Kaleidoscope. Might not be as good as it, but I'll give it a try, if only for the pumpkin drops.

... Let me try this one again. There's a guerrilla quest going on right now, I've cleared it once and got a few pumpkins, but every attempts after the first one has gotten me nothing but cupcakes and Assassin Pieces from Hassan. ... What the hell is up with these drop rates, are they super shitty or do the pumpkins drop only the first time you clear it ? And the quest costs 30 AP to boot with.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 22, 2015, 02:31:01 am
http://i.imgur.com/n5zxsYG.png
Awful, not even one Illya CE (I'll need pumpkins badly), and I already have Carmilla, my summoning ticket got me junk too (Pendant CE) I guess I won't be as lucky as in the Moonlight Festival. Oh well.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 22, 2015, 02:41:15 am
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/7125005cb3a60ffdf81f8bceeb1940a6/tumblr_nwlj77wnNP1td9veto1_1280.png)
Well then, I got lucky.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 22, 2015, 06:41:17 am
Well, being able to login during party and guerrilla times is nearly impossible.

I mean, come on DelightWorks, why would you make an event where you can only efficiently farm during certain times of day when your servers can't even handle the playerbase?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 22, 2015, 10:17:06 am
So the connection basically dies during the guerrilla and party times (at least inmediately after it becomes available) because tons of people connect at the same time to farm from those quests, specially since you can only access those quests during certain times... Congrats DW for not predicting such an obvious thing. Oh well, there will be less people connecting in a few days since they will probably have obtained everything.

And if not, maybe they make it available all the time. Which I really doubt they do.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 22, 2015, 10:34:42 am
I tried half an hour late when I posted about it, and I had no issue for my 5 runs. Either half an hour is enough for most people, or no one was connected at 8AM JST. ... or half an hour is enough because they realized Hassan stopped dropping pumpkins after the first time.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 22, 2015, 10:42:19 am
That's me, the previous guerrilla time i made a second run and stopped right away after realizing that pumpkins drop once, I'll just save AP for the next party/guerrilla
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 22, 2015, 11:01:34 am
Yeah, looks like it's not farming at all but just do them when they appear. That makes sense with how it's treated like the other free quests that give you a reward once and then you can do them again but only hope for random material drops. Like Assassin Monuments. Or CEs. That's slightly less worse than needing to farm them all, but still hindered by the time limit andnow a limited numbers of pumpkins.
... but man, if that is correct, good job with the Terrible comm, Delight Works. Way to make sure your servers will burst into flames 6 times a day for absolutely no gain.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 22, 2015, 03:06:28 pm
These servers are beginning to be a pain....
Well I guess it's good to know that I'm not the only one with this problem.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 23, 2015, 12:15:21 am
"Oh, can't connect to register my victory, I guess a guerrilla time slot just started !"
Is it going to be unbearable like that for 2 weeks, are we going to have to make sure we don't start a battle three minutes before guerrilla ? Why is this still this bad after the second day and they're still not doing anything about it. In the previous fucked up updates they were quick enough to just do maintenance to change stuff. Now it's like they just said fuck it.
Exited and got back in (somehow), and it didn't ask me to go back to the end of the battle, and I don't even know if it registered or if it lost my drops (dunno how many I had of what, nor what I dropped). Nice.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 23, 2015, 12:50:12 am
So I cleared a quest, got timed out in the victory screen, restarted and the quest was completed but I got no rewards. This is the fucking worst.

Also, the times aren't set and they change every day, as if things weren't frustrating enough! I don't know how many I missed because of that. Apparently they adjusted party times so now they stay on the map so that's something...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 23, 2015, 02:14:39 am
The good thing about having 100+ FP rolls waiting is that I can take a new 5* CE and shoot it up to lv20 in a blink. I'll have those FP back in a week anyway.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 23, 2015, 11:41:42 am
So I was wrong, Pumpkins do drop if you repeat Guerrilla quests, it's just that the drop rates are very inconsistent... I guess I'll be using my apples for this...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 23, 2015, 12:25:28 pm
Hahaha a news announcement popped up. Maintenance incoming : guerilla quest can be challenged "once", pumpkin drop rate up from the pumpkin leader, the guerrilla quest will stick until... the end of the day I think ? Quick reading, on phone at works, not checking every detail. There's more to it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 23, 2015, 01:14:31 pm
Yeah, that's basically it.

Quote
Guerrilla quests are being changed to work the same as party quests, where they turn up and you have as long as you like to clear them, but you can only clear them once.
Pumpkin Leader is now guaranteed to appear in the final wave of the 40 AP quest, and the pumpkin lantern drop rate from him was increased, but still not 100%.
10 Apoligems and 10 Apples will be given out.
(edit for clarity)

I used all my quartz trying to get an Illya CE and all I got was a bunch of Mephistopheles... great, awesome.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 23, 2015, 02:18:05 pm
Yeah, I just saw that Ilya CE on your Servant. Will be using it a lot just to get Maid in Halloween and perhaps another Elizabeth, but after that I don't have anything else to waste it on. Bats are what I'm currently farming to make sure Elizabeth can reach max ascension, and after that... well, who knows. Perhaps keep trying pumpkins maybe? I really don't want to waste the apples, it's not worth it IMO. I would rather keep them for a future 1/2 AP event in which I really need to farm EXP or pieces/monuments, that is a perfect moment to use it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 23, 2015, 03:11:07 pm
With multiple Party Times giving an apple each and 14 (well, 12~11) days, and if the quests stay available for the day now, I'm sure you should rack up enough apples for anything.
Although with how it went, I'm now slightly less sure that the apples will stay and won't vanish at the end of the event. I'm hoping we'll get confirmation that the system will stay, it sounded that way when announced, but with how easy it'll be to get them and if they replace quartz AP refill, I dunno.

The lv70 Lancelot with Illya CE is me, not sure SD got Illya.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 23, 2015, 10:25:39 pm
Surprised I managed to get enough items to max out Caster Eli's NP.
I don't know what to do now so I guess I'll see if I can farm for other items.
And now Tamamo Cat is doing the obligatory naked apron thing (Got her to her third ascension)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 24, 2015, 02:02:27 am
Yeah, I have Tamamo CE, I tried to get Illya with all my quartz but I didn't.
A friend got four, ugh.
I'll focus on getting everything to max ascend Liz and then after that I'll just try to get everything else (Actually I bought Monuments and ascended Lancelot, but now I need EXP)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 24, 2015, 02:08:53 am
Speaking of EXP, Hassan plz, stop getting so much gold Assassin EXP, you've almost maxed out your final ascension, after you I don't have any other Assassin I need to level up (Kojiroh's far enough and doesn't need to be maxed out). Similarly, game, you're real funny giving me all those Lancer gold EXP when they're all ascension locked (except FSNCu but he's again getting close to that too)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 24, 2015, 12:08:31 pm
Just give the EXP to someone else, I'm ironically enough giving all this lancer EXP to caster Liz (and the Assassin one to Jing-ke since I got her from gacha)
And then I finally ascended Tamamog and I got Herakles from the Gacha... I'm only missing Kintoki (RIP) and Vlad and then I'll have all the berserkers.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 24, 2015, 01:40:45 pm
Most of my Servants are close to their current cap. Those who could still improve are Medea, Kojiroh, Lu Bu, and then I'm scrapping the dirt with Caster Gilles, Saber Gilles, Mashu, Caster Liz and Mephistopheles. I don't know if I'll bother buying the EXP cards from the shop when the event is over, or if I'll go for the QP, for once.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 24, 2015, 09:35:24 pm
...I just got a Tamamo Cat. With the ticket roll from Sunday. I spent one minute looking at my screen, until my sister asked me why I was frozen looking at the screen.

YOLO rolls happen guys. YOLO rolls happen. Now excuse me while I go feed her with EXP.

And now I have a good reason to farm for pumpkins, as I got an even better Berserker than Kiyohime. Sorry bats and candles, you're now my second priority.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on October 27, 2015, 01:18:27 am
I have rather...interesting luck?

I somehow pulled Limited/Over Zero and now I'm confused on who to give it to aside from Tamamo Cat since she's my only good Berserker.

I think it works best for Berserkers imo.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 27, 2015, 09:04:47 am
Yeah, it gives a really good Buster damage boost, plus it also increases your ATK stat. I'm not sure if it also affects the damage of Buster NP, but if it does, then you should definitely equip it to a Berserker with a Buster NP like Heracles, though keep in mind Berserkers aren't really good at raising their NP bar and if you prefer to use their NP then Kaleidoscope is your choice. If Tamamo Cat is the only 4* or above Berserker you have, equip it to her unless you have Kaleidoscope (in boss battles L/ZO is definitely your choice).

About this event, am I the only one that is starting to run out of things from the shop without even trying? I mean, right now the only thing I have remaining for pumpkins are getting all the Maid in Halloween CE. I already have all the things you get with pumpkins. I still need to get all cupcakes so I will farm the 40 AP for them (apart from getting the last MiH CE since I already got one from drops). For bats, the same, only the CE remaining. I still need more candles, but that's because I haven't tried to seriously farm them.

I'm surprised, even though the drops are supposed to be random, they were really generous with the drop rate, to the point that is really easy to get everything in this event compared to the other previous ones. Even non-related Halloween drops are easy to get, who knows how many Ghost Lanterns I must have gotten in this event.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 30, 2015, 12:15:13 am
Wow, the difficulty is ramping up in those guerrilla quests. I'm already having some issues with that lv50 required Kiyohime (I try to get everyone their NP up and bring a Lv70~80 support to avoid having any worry) but some lv60 required quests just popped up. Haven't tried them yet. edit - uh, it's two demons and a Medea. Not that hard.
... Uh wait, Friend Points are back as a daily login bonus ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 30, 2015, 12:54:47 am
Err... apart from the Monday one, you shouldn't be getting any more. Are you sure it was a daily login bonus?

And yeah, Kiyohime was a bit hard because LOL crits only. She seems to get a crit every two rounds, doing close to 10K damage with them which was retarded, but honestly, she being a Berserker made the fight go faster, so it was bearable. However, nothing can surpass Medea at this moment, IMO she's harder to beat than Kiyohime. Now I know how the AI feels when I pull two Rule Breaker in a row. OMFG, she's able to fill two bars at once from her NP bar. And her NP does 10K damage, which basically kills anything that isn't a 4* or 5* with a good HP stat or is a Rider (love you Marie). Hahaha yeah kill her first and kill her fast.

Fortunately I finally managed to reach d'Eon to 3rd Ascension, and OMG she's goddamn good at being a tank with her Looks of Loveliness. Having two turns at least with no damage is amazing. A pity that Medea's NP removes the buff, but it's enough to get me one turn of no worries.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on October 30, 2015, 01:12:54 am
Yeah, 1/7 day login.
Kiyohime keeps stacking defense up, but on the other hand she gives your guys are ATK up with her stalking, but then that also lowers your defense. With her having crazy high HP, it takes a long time to kill her (and she pulls her NP about two or three times thanks to that). Unless you have a Medea just for her, of course, but it's irritating that you have to bust up that sort of strategy for that. The chimeras that come before and with her are a pain too, they deal more damage, requiring you to not concentrate on Kiyohime right off the bat. My front line is three guys at lv70 and it's still a pain to finisher her, I even get a few of my guys killed every now and then by her.
I haven't had much trouble beating Medea, even on my tablet account that only has a Heracles lv50 and a Arturia Alter lv 54. I did lose 4 guys against her with that team, but it's less surprising and it went a lot faster than the Kiyohime fight. Her NP hit me for 21k damage, but at this point it doesn't make a big difference - it's an instant kill anyway :P
I'm killing the demon first because he hits a lot harder than Medea, BTW. Same with the chimera with Kiyohime, it's more attacks in one turn for her, but less damage, and both Medea and Kiyohime will buff more often than attack, so compared to the demon and chimera hitting hard twice a turn, IMO it's better.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on October 30, 2015, 03:42:57 am
Kiyohime is pretty tanky, I've been opting to sacrifice one farming card and just give Lancelot a Kaleido to deal with her so I usually kill her before she gets to pull her NP, I haven't tried Medea yet, hopefully it won't be that big of a struggle.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on October 30, 2015, 09:23:03 am
I really didn't have any problem with her. I always went after her with a team of d'Eon, Marie and Vlad/your Lancelots and I always won without losing anyone. Since I always reach that fight with their NPs full, they take half of her HP in the first turn. And after that, just slowly taking her HP, using d'Eon to tank the first three turns and then keeping them alive as much as I can for the remaining turns. Medea on the other hand was harder because I had the unpleasant luck of her only using High-Speed Divine Words every turn. Five turns in total with her using it before it stopped, and after that it was a combination of the heal and the NP recovery skill, never using her normal attack even once. I'm so glad the Servants in the Halloween quests only act two times a turn.

Edit: OKEANOS ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!!! Brb, gotta find someone who has translated the info. For now, it appears that Francis Drake is a 5* Servant, Mary Read & Anne Bonne a 4* Servant, and for the looks of it David and Hector are 3* Servant. Euryale is also made available.

This proves again that the chinese list of Servants was wrong. First it said that Artemis & Orion were 4* Servants, which is not true. After that they said MR&AB were 5* and Drake was 3*. Basically the star thing was pure speculation. Which I'm glad. Anyway, Drake will be the main assistant in that quest it seems.

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Edit: Oh hey, talk about bullshit. The new quests feature a big Assassin dragon with only three bars for his NP, to then encounter Tamamo as the last encounter, spamming her Fox Wedding that turns damage to three-digit and hitting like a truck. I guess they thought it was too easy before (which it was IMO) so they went ballistic with the new ones.

Basically, you need a fully dedicated party for these new quests if you want to win. What a pain in the ass. Oh well, I have all objects obtained already so that's one quest I will certainly not do! And really, the rewards are not worth the effort, so yeah.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 02, 2015, 02:49:27 am
I cleared it thanks to a LV90 Jeanne support but she was the last one standing, Tamamo no Mae has too much health, and the Assassin Fafnir reduced my first squad's HP to like... 0%, he does that fireball rain attack more often than regular Fafnir, ugh..
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 02, 2015, 09:16:17 am
Wow, probably won't even try it either. I also have everything I need from the shop, I'm only spamming the Vlad node (or the 3xCu 3xArturia 2xJeanne one) to try and get the fifth Iri CE. I dropped it on my alt account and it's better suited for the Arturia Alter I have on it than my main Lancelot (I'm just sticking with Kaleidoscope for him after all), so it won't be a big deal if I can't max it on my main, but it's pretty much all I have left to do anyway until Okeanos.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 02, 2015, 10:05:03 am
Me, I'm officialy done with this event. I was really lucky to get two Tamamaid CE, so now it's time to raise Tamamo's level so I can reach her third ascension. I will still farm the Golden Apples when they come out. My first event in which I get everything.

The 50 AP free quest is now available btw, it sports 3 Shadow Elizabeth and 1 normal Elizabeth. It's a Lancer fest, so basically bring your best Sabers and you have an easy win. Not worth farming it over and over, since the only rewards are bats, pumpkins or Lancer pieces/monuments. It does give a Crystalized Lore the first time, in case you care about getting lvl.10 skills.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 02, 2015, 07:14:56 pm
bring your best Sabers
Nero lv68
Caesar lv50
... that's it. Woohoo. And the recommended level is 80.
Well, I've got a bunch of lv80~90 Altera/Arturia/Arturia Alter as support anyway.
... uuuuugghh they all have 40k HP. It's like fighting a bunch of Caster Demons. Oh, they charge their NP fast enough, but at least the Shadow ones don't do the actual NP, just the Extra combo on a single target, good.
... 415k HP for the actual Eliza. Ooookay.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 02, 2015, 07:43:48 pm
Don't worry, the only Sabers I got are not good at attacking, so I was even in a worse situation than you, and I still won without CS. Use my d'Eon if you want and make her eat all the attacks, if you need a good tank. She will last three turns for sure, specially if you use her dodge and your master dodge.

Or grab someone like Arturia, Alter Arturia or Attila, and use their NP. The first round goes instantly with that, and the second you'll see that Elizabeth will hardly do damage. The Iris CE and the Ilya CE from Halloween are really good because they speed up quite a bit the NP recovery, apart from giving you a head start with the NP bar. It's specially noticeable with Arturia's natural high NP recovery speed, compared to other Sabers.

For Nero, I recommend the Maid in Halloween. It makes her recovery skills heal a really big amount. Depending on how much you've leveled up her skills, it can be as good as a Master Heal or even better.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 02, 2015, 11:50:45 pm
I brought all my Sabers (Saber Lily, Caesar...Saber Gilles) along with my Lv80 Lancelot and then Shielder to keep him alive. I don't remember my support, I think it was a Nero but yeah, I cleared that too.

I bought everything from the store as well, I only need a random Iris and Tamamo CE drop to max them out, ugh... I'll also get apples but that's it, I'm not farming for pumpkins. I need to farm EXP to level up Caster Liz anyways.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 04, 2015, 10:06:14 am
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/3qh4v3
100 days anniversary
1M QP, 2 tickets, 2 apples, 2 Fou cards, you have a week to pick it up
Log in on the 100th day (between Nov 6 4AM and Nov 7 4AM JST) to get 10 gold exp cards

Edit - ouch, lots of updates.
There are two maintenances, one today to fix a glitch it party time, one tomorrow.
Bug fixes :
Servants and CE lock lost when updating the app. ... except it'll still happen when you update it this one time.
New interludes in Chaldea, Orleans, Septem (Asterios, Atalanta, Ushi, Teach, Orion, Zhuge 2, Zhuge 3, Tamacat, Phantom)
Halloween pickup closed, Okeanos stuff added to the story pickup
Fixing camera fuck up in a Brave Chain in high speed battle
Fixing the display of NP level when selecting a Servant on certain screens
A glitch when selecting cards too fast during battle
Some NP description fixes and shit

Some changes when selecting master spells and servant skills
You can now get NP gauge and crit stars even if you hit with 0 damage
Zhuge's skills and NP are tweaked
Bunch of servants that hit only once I their quick card will now hit twice. Bunch of casters and assassins, plus kiyo and marie.
If your crit star generation chance is over 100%, you get twice the crit stars per hit.
Basically quick cards get big boosts (more first bonus, generate more stars)
More stars on overkill, even on art and buster
On star gives 10% crit chance instead of 11 because why not
You don't have to tap screen again when receiving cards from the gift box (the last pop up at the end "you received stuff" that was useless)
5 quartz
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SUTOPPU, SUTOPPU, PURIIZU !
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 04, 2015, 03:09:52 pm
Oh hey nice update that comes with Okeanos. And finally we get interludes for some of the Servants that were missing. There's still some that don't seem to get them yet though. Oh well, let's hope Tamacat interlude boosts her NP damage, hopefully.

Btw, there's a level 90 quest that just appeared, that rewards you with a Crystalized Lore. This is what you'll meet IIRC:
- Two skeletons and Hassan.
- One skeleton, one Amazon and Siegfried.
- One skeleton, one Chimera and Kiyohime.
- One skeleton, one demon and Medea.
- One skeleton and Tamamo Caster.

Have fun there. Only one time you'll be able to clear it btw. I had to waste my 3 CS yet again, but at least it was more fun than dealing with a goddamn dragon honestly. There's a higher chance here to obtain the Tamamo CE so if you want it well, just enter and exit the quest until it appears.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 04, 2015, 04:23:31 pm
I had no seals so I only made it to Medea, even with my Riders in the backrow/second squad...Oh well. I never got that last TamaCat or Irisviel CE drop to max them out... bleh.

And I have FP points ready for the new FP servants.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 05, 2015, 01:26:44 am
50 runs of the 20AP Apple party time quests (exiting when Kintoki wouldn't give me what I wanted) gave me no Iri CE.
Fuck this drop rate.
I don't really mind the apples, but that was one massive waste of time.
(edit - I'm not even counting how many runs I made at the Vlad node over these two weeks, and he was harder to kill, but at least his node gave me a bunch of Dragon Teeth - still need a lot more, I'll finish Lancelot after all)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 05, 2015, 10:00:00 am
I must have been really lucky in this event 'cause that CE dropped in my third try. Same for Tamamid CE, first I got it after the fifth try and the other this Monday I believe.

Anyway, maintenance for Okeanos is here, one hour at this point until it ends, but since I already know how this goes it will obviously take more time than planned. And after that the servers will be crashing all the time because of the amount of people logging in at the same time. For now, go and download the update which is already available in QooApp or other sites.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 05, 2015, 11:29:34 am
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/evaamm
Hah ! Chance to roll a 3* ce down from 60 to 40%, chance to roll a 3* servant up from 20 to 40. Eat a dick, Shinji and Black Keys and Dragon !
Oh wow, Hector has high HP cap for a 3*. Tank it is.
Extra Rin CE, Code Cast, 4*, ATK and DEF +25% for the first 3 turns, good stats boost. Berserkers will crush skulls with that.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 05, 2015, 11:37:14 am
OKEANOS IS HERE!!!!

I highly recommend people not to roll until they beat it, so the Servant that unlocks in the gatcha at the end (I believe it was Tamamo Caster) is available too.

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Holy shit Drake's NP is cool. They literally copied her NP from Extra, exactly with the same lines spoken.

... And I'm too overleveled... Even if I only use d'Eon and Marie as my only 4* Servants. I overdid it LOL. Sorry Drake, I know you were supposed to be a hard boss with over 100K health and those damn good skills and crits, but it wasn't enough.

Btw, it's really cool how each map unlocks.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 05, 2015, 11:53:56 am
Tamamo Caster is for the next Order, so not now.
Apparently Waver's buffs are crazy everything gives NP charge.
Apparently the buffs to crit game make it really worth it to chose a setup other than BERSERKERS EVERYWHERE, BUSTER ALL DAY team. Gil and Sir Critsalot stand in the sweet middle.
Anyone who was able to do the lv50-70-90 in Halloween is probably overleveled for the story, don't fret about it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 05, 2015, 11:55:19 am
Ooh, then I wonder who unlocks in this one. And yeah, I'm literally steamrolling through everything. I'm expecting a Kraken or that whale to appear and kick my ass, but for now it's just pirates (and zombie pirates). Hopefully there's some enemy that drops unobtainable ascension materials here. We have, for now on farming Gorgon Eyes should be easier since Lamias are a common enemy here.

Btw, the star generation is so easy now that I can easily get to 20 stars without even trying. No joke here. And skills being sped up too. What a blessing.

That Erik berserker is the next boss. He's a joke compared to Drake. And another Berserker as third boss, Asterios, again a joke. More since his NP doesn't hurt you.

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Hahaha, you get Euryale as partner and apparently she has domesticated Asterios. Asterios is not a partner though. Btw, you get Drake as partner after fighting her as boss.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 05, 2015, 12:28:02 pm
Holy hell, datamining for the new Servants is out, Medea Lily and David have crazy good skills, and Hector is okay. With Waver's buffs and the crit buffs, they're really giving solid alternatives to Buster Chains all day. Now you can do some real strategy work.
Medea Lily is a 4* Caster btw, nice.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 05, 2015, 12:32:26 pm
Wait what, there's Medea Lily? I suppose she is the one you'll unlock in the end. I would feel tempted to get her and switch her older version if it wasn't because Rule Breaker is one of the best NP in the game because of the awesome ability to remove buffs.

Fourth boss, Erik again. Goddamn, give me Bonne and Mary already.

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Oh hey, wyverns because. I have a bad feeling about this. Really, DW. A big dragon just because. Urgh, time to kill it.

And why is Artemis in here, and a selectable partner...

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There's a goddamn node in which you fight Heracles. Four times in a row. Each time he gets stronger. The last fight is damn annoying since he spams the dodge skill. Which reinforces my love of Medea and her Rule Breaker.

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Okeanos done. You get David as reward. The last boss is a joke, it's Medea Lily with some Flauros monster, but since Medea is there it only has two turns and Medea's NP doesn't hurt you. So yeah, it's easier to win than if the monster was alone. If you want a challenge, try to beat it after killing Medea.

AND I GOT DRAKE IN MY 40 QUARTZ ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's some A-rank luck there:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 05, 2015, 11:37:00 pm
75 Friend rolls available, hello Hector, David, Euryale. I'll do Okeanos this week-end before trying the quartz rolls and tickets though.
Hector's summoning line (his voice is so weird) : "hi ! I'm the famous Hector. Have you heard of me ? .... No ? :( Eh, nice to meet you."
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 06, 2015, 12:51:35 am
Hahaha, yeah I heard it too. The face he made while saying it was really hilarious. I felt sorry for the guy. He's a nice Lancer btw, one of his skills has a chance to stun apart from dropping defense I believe. I know that perfectly since guess what skill he likes to spam when he's an enemy. His NP ignores defense buffs and hits all enemies, so that's another plus for events in which you have Servants spam the defense button.

David is a really good Archer too (he attacks with his staff btw, which confused the hell out of me and made me think he wasn't one). One of his skills grants the entire party a dodge for one attack (one attack only, not one turn as some people say). That skill is goddamn good for saving your ass against a multi-target NP. About his NP it does tons of damage (though it can't surpass Robin Hood with the proper setup). Btw, if you fight him as enemy (in Tamamo's Cat interlude I believe) his NP grants him the buff that "ignores dodge skills" before the attack, so yeah, only invulnerabilty will save you at dodging that attack.

Euryale is a second Stheno, simple as that. At least her NP does damage, but instead she has lower stats than her, obviously since she's a 3* Servant. David and Robin Hood are much better options for Archers IMO.

Drake is a monster of a Rider. I'm not kidding, those skills of hers raise her attack potential a lot, and she's meant to get her NP ready, and hit really hard with it. And it's damn cool, just watch the video in Youtube or reach her fight in Okeanos. I'm so happy to have her, but damn, I have too many Riders now LOL. Still sticking with Marie since her block skill and surprisingly her charm skill has saved my ass a lot of times (I'm looking at you Heracles).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 06, 2015, 04:11:53 am
(https://41.media.tumblr.com/d100f1b140658a7736e82330b8137ad9/tumblr_nxdi56aqqp1td9veto1_1280.png)
This has got to be one of the best 10 rolls I've ever done.
I got Lu Bu on one of my summon ticket rolls but I don't know if I'll use him since I already got Tamamo Cat.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 06, 2015, 08:18:36 am
There's one thing that right now it's bothering me, is that the story roll is precisely the current one, with the rate up for those Servants and CE. That's cool if you don't have any of them, but the moment you get what you want, well, you certainly don't want to waste your roll here, honestly. I mean, the only Servant I don't have from Okeanos is Anne Bonne & Mary Read, but I am really not interested in it after getting Drake. Yet when I get again 40 quartz roll, I will be forced to wait because of that rate up. They should have split it in two honestly, like they have done in events.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 06, 2015, 11:17:44 am
Upgrading NPs is usually strong and always worth it, it always make a pretty notable difference (unless you don't even play that Servant at all).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 06, 2015, 01:50:40 pm
That's the thing, I just got Robin Hood as Archer in my FP roll and I prefer him much more than David, and for the rest... Well, I have Marie for my favourite Rider (plus good luck to me even getting Drake at lvl 5 NP or even getting Bonne & Read at all) and I'd rather get more Cu Lancers than Hector. Euryale is meh too. I don't mind using tickets in that roll, but using a 40 quartz roll again would be quite a waste of quartz since most likely I will get the rate-up 3* Servants again which I don't need, and I want a Medusa to complete the family set so more the reason (yeah, I'm not expecting to get lucky again in my 40 quartz roll for 4* or above Servant).

One question about Bonne & Read, is her battle sprite just the little girl instead of the two of them? If so I'm rather disappointed honestly. I was expecting the two to appear in battle, not just Anne Bonne appear in the NP only.

Btw, look at this beautiful map:

(http://i.imgur.com/wfHlJlD.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 06, 2015, 02:48:31 pm
Bonny*
Medusa is available in the friend rolls, but she's about as rare there as other specific 3* Servants. Then again I'm pretty sure I have her with lv5 NP.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 06, 2015, 09:39:02 pm
One question about Bonne & Read, is her battle sprite just the little girl instead of the two of them? If so I'm rather disappointed honestly. I was expecting the two to appear in battle, not just Anne Bonne appear in the NP only.
The little girl does the fighting, Anne Bonny appears in the NP only.

It's kinda disappointing, I agree.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on November 06, 2015, 09:52:58 pm
Well,then I guess thats how they're gonna handle the Fate/Zero Hassan squad too
And they have the same deal with Orion,where the art sucks dick but the sprites arent bad at all.
Also everyone is way too overleveled for current content,this kinda sucks
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 06, 2015, 10:12:22 pm
I blame the stupidly high difficulty of the events that forced us to level up a lot in order to get as much profit as possible.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 06, 2015, 10:44:46 pm
Agreed.
Also fuck Flauros.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 06, 2015, 11:14:00 pm
Since I usually do a team with no knights, that fight was easy for me. All my attacks doing double damage while its attacks hardly doing any damage. That support Tamamo Caster at lvl 80 made things go really well with its healing, NP increase and reduction of skill cooldown. Only lost one Servant because I didn't have enough dodges to save all of them from its NP (which I delayed a lot thanks to Tamamo's Witchcraft).

And wow, now that I have a 5* Servant, I can't believe how some people could even level it up to 90. I mean, I still haven't reached level 50 (the max for the first ascension) and I'm currently struggling to get EXP cards for Drake. And here I though it was hard to raise 4* Servants after reaching their third ascension. It sure feels different when you have to level it up ten more times. But really, Drake has some huge stats at level 40. 5* Servants are so unfair...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 06, 2015, 11:59:41 pm
Not Flauros, Forneus, a second of the 72 demons. (I've only just begun Okeanos but I Youtubed it)

I jump started Vlad to his first ascension with the EXP from the Halloween shop, and you can get that amount in half a dozen runs of the 40AP quest for any kind of EXP daily, 10 at worst (and I think there's one going on right now), it shouldn't take more than a few days before getting blocked by ascension material if you're seriously investing every last EXP you get into one Servant at a time. Even 5* Servants. Even if you won't use quartz or apple AP refill, the Saturday all EXP daily should be enough to come back to it maybe 4 times in the day to empty your AP bar 4 times and clean up shop (though I guess the timezone is a pain for those playing from America, but it's not an issue if you're in Spain).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 07, 2015, 01:43:05 pm
I see I see.

Also I'm heavily disappointed that Anne's appearance doesn't change at all in the sprites, despite it changing in the art.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 09, 2015, 01:17:26 am
I already said it before, but I will say it again. Drake is a broken Servant.  Voyage of the Storm raises both her NP damage and her attack for one turn. She also has Golden Rule that allows her with only two Arts attack to reach nearly 50% of her NP, and then you have Pioneer of the Stars EX, which raises her NP bar a 30% in level 1 and makes her ignore the invincibility status of any Servant.

Long story short, if I use her NP, which is really easy to get with her skills even if I start at 50% NP, and I boost that NP damage, I can even get close to doing the same damage as a Lancelot with its NP. WTF is wrong with her LOL. The only reason Lancelot is still surpassing me in damage is because I still need to raise her level. Just wait until I reach her third ascension. If one day I get Kaleidoscope that means I can have first turn NP with her skills, something only possible with Casters.

Oh, and her attacks hit multiple attacks, so she generates tons of stars like with Gilgamesh. It's a pity she only has one quick card.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 09, 2015, 05:45:43 am
I can even get close to doing the same damage as a Lancelot with its NP
Yeah but Lancelot's NP not only boosts his damage for the next turn but it's also quick card, so if you activate his skills he's going to generate a massive amount of stars (More so if it's a quick chain, which should be easy if your team is built around him), this effectively means that the next turn, he can just use concentration to suck all those stars and get easy criticals with a damage boost. It's two turns of massive damage.
Sure Drake is the better servant for being a 5*, better stats and none of the downsides (And in return, the upsides) of being a berserker.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 09, 2015, 10:09:37 am
Thing is, for some reason the critical stars tend to gather around Drake cards when I get a lot of them (her NP also gives tons of stars, so yay about that). I'm not sure if it's pure luck, or if her EX-rank Luck has some influence on this, but 9/10 times one of her cards will probably have a 100% chance or close to cause a critical. And if she causes a critical and has Golden Rule on her, she literally fills nearly all of her NP bar from 0. Not kidding here. Even if she doesn't have Golden Rule activated, two Art cards causing crits increases her NP so much that it's unbelievable.

I wish I could record it, I nearly was close to using her NP two times in a row in one battle since I went with a Brave Combo with two Art cards after the NP and her attacks achieved criticals. So yeah, while  Lancelot will most likely do more damage (because of constant 1.5* damage from Berserkers) and generate more stars, the fact that I can easily get her to raise her NP makes her IMO better than Lancelot, as the moment you use Lancelot's NP, forget about even raising it again unless you're extremely lucky or have a Tamamo constantly raising NP for all the team. And it helps a ton that unlike Lancelot, she can easily generate those crit stars she needs.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 09, 2015, 10:12:03 am
Thing is, for some reason the critical stars tend to gather around Drake cards
Yeah, each Servant has a different attraction rate for stars. Berserkers have a low one, Riders often have higher ones. Use a CE or Lancelot's skill that attracts stars.
But yeah, the chance to pull the NP a couple times within a few turns is good too.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 09, 2015, 10:29:38 am
I want to fix one thing, the reason she generates so much NP is also because I gave her that Halloween Princess from the Halloween event, which is maxed, so it basically increases her already high NP generation to 20%. It's the best card for her IMO, since at level 10, if one day I manage to reach it, her third skill can generate the remaining 50%, and after using her NP I can just simply raise it faster again with the help of Golden Rule too. But yeah even without that CE she can raise her NP fast, not as fast as a Caster obviously.

The only bad thing I can comment is her card setup. She would greatly benefit from a QQAAB combination, instead she's a QAABB. This is one case that it doesn't benefit having two Buster cards. Her NP is also a Buster, and again it would benefit her to have a Quick NP. I mean this because she hardly benefits from her class skills unfortunately. Oh well, she's fine even with this setup.

Also, I'm being a total fanboy here so I may be exaggerating the facts a bit, so please fix whatever I say wrong if I'm clearly overdoing it in my description of her LOL.

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Edit: Maintenance in November 11th.

Lancelot's Arondight
Medea Lily's Final Ascension Art
Orion Interlude
Jeanne Interlude
El Melloi & Flauros Difficulty Tweak (Main Story)

So yeah, we finally get Lancelot's Arondight at level 3 ascension. Ffs finally. And yeah, they put the wrong ascension art for Medea Lily surprisingly. Also, new dailies starting 18th:

Monday
Archer Items
Lancer, Assassin, Berserker EXP
Tuesday
Lancer Items
Saber, Rider, Berserker EXP
Wednesday
Berserker Items
Archer, Caster, Berserker EXP
Thursday
Rider Items
Lancer, Assassin, Berserker EXP
Friday
Caster Items
Saber, Rider, Berserker EXP
Saturday
Assassin Items
Archer, Caster, Berserker EXP
Sunday
Saber Items
QP Quest

All quests will have a super level now, not only EXP. And yeah, Master EXP and Bond EXP is gone. I'm so glad I'm already at max level. At least now it's better distributed so you can focus on one class only. But really, is it that hard to add more than two types of daily quests in a day, instead of removing master and bond exp completely?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2015, 02:41:35 pm
Also, Class items include ascension and skill material. Hearts, Plumes, gems and such.
Plus, Mana prism rewards reset each week, finally. (well, it could have been each month, people will rush now)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 10, 2015, 04:58:00 pm
I have a question about Waver's 3rd interlude (in Rome. His second one, which I've completed, is in Okeanos).

I have him at his 3rd ascension. His bond is maxed. Is there some condition that I haven't met yet, or is it not available in the game yet?

(http://i.imgur.com/V8MMcFLl.jpg)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2015, 05:30:13 pm
The text on top tells you want you're missing (if you can read it or recognize the numbers and the kanjis for bond - 1 kanji, ascension - 4, map - 2...) in this case it needs the 4th ascension.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 10, 2015, 06:35:40 pm
LOL seriously? It requires you to reach max ascension for him? I would find it pointless if it wasn't for the fact that his NP has been upgraded to be better in the last update.

And about the ascension items, hopefully we don't end up in a "Only getting skill gems" hell. They could have just put everything separately, but oh well...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2015, 06:51:26 pm
LOL seriously? It requires you to reach max ascension for him?
... well that's his third interlude, plus it's the one that upgrades his NP, so yeah ? Why are you surprised ? I assume everyone will have like 3 to 6 interludes by the end of the game, and of course the requirements will keep rising, it's not like all of someone's interludes can be done at lv1 bond and 1st ascension. There are even interludes that boost skills now, Atalanta being the first of those.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 10, 2015, 10:06:24 pm
No well, I know there are interludes at second ascension (heck, I did Marie's one and I still have to do Stheno's one), but giving an interlude at the last one, when reaching it is normally really hard because of materials and EXP... well, that's only worth doing if you're really going to stick with that Servant until the end, otherwise it's really not worth it. That's why, if you're going to give something that upgrades the Servant, it should be better to receive it sooner so you can see if it's worth sticking with the Servant after the upgrade or not.

For example, Asterios NP upgrade is really good for what I've heard, it applies a really huge debuff on top of the one that already gave his NP. But I'm sure nobody would have tried to reach his 4th ascension if it was there placed, since his stats as Berserker are not precisely worth the effort unless you really like him. I certainly wouldn't. And that's only for a 1* Servant.

And yeah, I know you can upgrade Atalanta's really useful Crossing Arcadia to be even better. I hope there are more Servants in the future that can do that.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 11, 2015, 03:15:00 am
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/1ae56o
So Lancelot is getting Arondight today.
...Yay? I wish he could get a third skill to go along with that, oh well.

I'm done with everything, free quests, interludes... so now it's time to farm EXP for these new servants, ascend some old ones and feed Lancelot more Fous.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 11, 2015, 01:22:51 pm
We will get 2 Quartz today because of maintenance, apart from the updates which are now in the game. Lancelot now has Arondight and I suppose it looks good, but it's obvious he was holding a pole before if you look at his attack animations.

And yeah, I'm done too. From all the apples I had before, 26 or close, I now have 18 after using them for Okeanos and raising Drake to the third ascension. Not bad I guess. Time to farm some Snake Jewels to get Stheno to second ascension. Which I can see it's going to be hell since after 10 fights nothing appeared except for the goddamn bones.

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Some weird bug just happened to me, in which all roads in Roma disappeared. The nodes were there at least.

Also, WTF with Stheno's second interlude (yeah, I finally got 5 Snake Jewels). There were 6 Medusas waiting for me there, with 120K each. Not shadow, so yeah, they had Noble Phantasms. WTF. I'm so glad I had 3 CS.

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I finally got the Gorgon trio. Wohoo!!!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on November 14, 2015, 09:43:50 pm
I just finished Okeanos and let me say that I am extremely dissapointed with how they treated Jason.
They made him a big weak asshole just so they can solidify Medeas position as the ultimate "dindu nuffin"
I mean,this is the dude that hung out with Orpheus,Hercules and Atalanta etc. and you're telling me he was good for nothing except serving as a body for some demon from the Goethia
Damn

I need an archer for my team atm,who should I invest XP into,RedMan or David?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 14, 2015, 09:55:49 pm
But the Argonauts story is kind of a massive fuck up anyway. Wasting time fucking an island full of women, killing by mistake in the confusion of the night everyone in a city that hired them to kill a bunch of giants (which Herakles pretty much did all on his own)... Only those who already were actual heroes like Orpheus and Herakles get out of this with their honor intact, the whole thing is kind of a story about how even heroes and gods can be massive fuck-ups. Jason himself died when he was kicked out of everywhere and slept under the rotting Argos like a hobo and the helm broke off and killed him in his sleep. The purpose of the story itself, getting the Golden Fleece, is something no one has ever made much sense out of, since it was never explicit what the fuck the Fleece was good for. It's a group trying to attain glory but coming out as dicks.

Emiya is okay but never really gets strong for a 4*, and AFAIK, the best he can be is as just one part of an all-crit team.
David is a 3* so he won't get very strong either, but his skills are pretty damn unique and good.
If Emiya is one of your rare 4/5*, don't hesitate to raise him since you always need as many of those as you can, but if you have other options in that range, David is more likely to be actually useful as an Archer.
(although to be fair for Emiya, I'm saying this from the point of view of a guy with a Lancelot that hits for over 12k and kills three waves in three to five turns tops, so if you have something like an art team or you take your time, he can be considered strong)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 14, 2015, 11:16:05 pm
Emiya is about spamming UBW. He gathers NP really fast, and he even has a skill that makes it gather even faster. Unfortunately, for crits he's not as useful. Put him in an Arts team.
David is a good Archer support with his skills, and his NP is a good single target NP that ignores the annoying dodges that Servants like to spam. Unfortunately he's even worse than Emiya at creating critical stars, as he attacks with a staff, unlike other Archers that attack with arrows.

Honestly, if you get your hands on Robin Hood or Atalanta, stick with those two. Euryale is good too against a male Servant, otherwise not really useful. I wonder why people doesn't use Servants with Charm skills more. They tend to have a high chance of hitting (even if you can only use them against a specific sex) and one turn lost is a really amazing status effect.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 17, 2015, 01:48:11 pm
Tomorrow's maintenance
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/ek8qgn
Uh, a new item to be added in Da Vinchan's mana prism shop. Golden tickets and lore will have their exchange deadline changed (who cares). Oh, the text in the description of event CEs will remove the event specific parts, finally. That was just annoying. Okeanos pick up rate finished, changes in the gachas. Some graphic glitches fix on Drake, Lancelot, centaurs.
Buying quartz has a different rate, but the total number for each price mark is unchanged. Basically, quartz are a bit cheaper so you're buying one more for the same price, but the free extra quartz is lower, so the total bought for total paid is uchanged.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 17, 2015, 02:40:08 pm
The only reason they would do such change for the quartz is that in the future they lower or remove the bonus quartz you get when buying. Not that I care much since I'm a F2P player. The only interesting news here, apart from the change in the dailies, is that they're going to give us a new item to buy with mana prisms. Hopefully it's something worth spending them. Oh, and two apology quartz I guess.

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The new Daily Quests are now implemented. The level 40 EXP one is now harder to beat, but in exchange it's really rare to encounter silver monsters now. In fact, in three runs, I had two that only gave me Gold monsters. Haven't tested the Ascension ones since I don't need it at this moment, but yeah, it's a really good change people.

Plus the fact that they have upped your chance to get a Super and Great Success. Time to level up your Servants. Also, they added more tickets for you to spend your Mana Prisms.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 18, 2015, 03:39:38 pm
Apparently the new pickup boost is Da Vinci's pretty boys : Zhuge Liang, Siegfried, Lancelot, Alexander, Proto Cu. I wouldn't mind upgrading Lancelot's vulcan minigun some more. Especially if it's not enough anymore to one-shot wave 3 of the 40AP EXP.
Asc daily 40AP seems hard with a 260kHP Lancelot who crits your shit up.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 18, 2015, 08:42:01 pm
Hey, I will be praying so you get it too (and any of you guys who put Lancelot as leader), since I will be making use of your Lancelot LOL. I wouldn't mind getting it myself too, but my Tamamo Cat is a good Berserker in my books. If I get Alexander, I will be satisfied, as I'm not expecting miracles to happen for me.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 19, 2015, 02:49:36 am
Just wanted to say, since the difficulty shot up in the dailies, everyone will need strong Servants in all classes, but I noticed that Caster Cu and Proto Cu got more interesting with their Rune Sorcery skills (critical power up) now that the crit game has become a lot more important. Along with the arrow evasion skill, they're back to being interesting (particularly Proto Cu who never really was interesting if you already had FSNCu). It's good for Caster Cu too, since there really aren't a lot of choices to deal any damage beside Elizabeth Halloween.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 19, 2015, 08:43:27 am
Well, there's Medea too, which you can use to spam her NP continuously. And obviously Tamamo and Zhuge simply for stats. Apart from that, the other Casters are not really that good because of their stats, skills, or because their roll is more of a support.

But oh well, they will be lowering the difficulty of the EXP quests plus increase the rarity of drops of the EXP quest.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3tefpy/dw_to_massively_reduce_the_difficulty_of_the_exp/

Which I am glad, because farming wasn't difficult, but annoying, because it took a lot more time to wipe them out. Most likely they will lower their huge HP to more reasonable levels, multiple 50-60K can take a long time to kill even with Berserkers.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 19, 2015, 07:45:56 pm
Wow, that was fast, the Hands are already down to the same difficulty they were before. Didn't even last a day.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 19, 2015, 10:08:48 pm
Me, I'm okay with this change. At least farming EXP takes less time of my life. Honestly though, going back to how they were before wasn't really that needed. A middle point would have been okay to make it more difficult than it was before the big change but still not be a chore.

What is not okay is the bullshit of the quests for materials. The goddamn bosses spamming their skills like crazy makes it unbearable to play. I got like 1000FP from people using my Drake because of her skill that bypasses Invincibility, since Marie was spamming that Invincibility skill all the damn time. And now you have Zhuge spamming that defense buff and Medea spamming Rule Breaker. DW, please realize that you can give cooldowns to the enemy skills (with obviously less cooldown than our Servants) and still be fun and challenging to play.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 20, 2015, 03:43:27 pm
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/hnr09o
Fate gudaguda honnoji event what.
If Sakura Saber and Majin Archer are actually playable, I hope they're in their joke form and not serious mode, because it would annoy me if those became legit Okita and Nobunaga, the SD form would still leave some hope for honest non-joke versions (even if they never appear in GO) (well, then again, Sakura Saber was designed by Takeuchi so there's little hope she ever gets replaced with more fitting skills)
That said, I wouldn't mind an event like Halloween with Caster Liz if the joke characters drop there.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 20, 2015, 10:58:10 pm
Hey, if I can wield a Nobunaga pulling a thousand guns as her NP, I'm really happy about it (plus that sweet extra damage against Divinity and Mystery). I don't need another Saberface though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 22, 2015, 02:10:01 am
I never did the QP dailies before thanks to the 30 millions they gave out, but I pretty much ran out just yesterday for all the EXP. I'm just now discovering that the QP quests are decently efficient, especially with the new 40AP and that lv80 Drake.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 22, 2015, 03:37:58 am
If anything they're worth doing right now for the prisms, even if you don't need QP (I only have three LV80 characters and haven't really upgraded skills, so I'm not really starving for QP)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 22, 2015, 10:56:34 am
In my case, I went from 17M QP to 22M QP after farming the 40 AP quest five times. It's really worth doing it if you have no need to collect Saber materials.

And speaking of Saber materials, you will encounter an Artoria there, probably with an Attila with her. Fortunately Attila only has 20K health, while Artoria has around 120K, and both are easy to kill IMO, as they have no skills that can decrease the damage they take nor dodge it completely. It's a pity I don't have any more Sabers worth leveling apart from d'Eon which I doubt there's any point raising her to 80 since she already has enough health for a tank and her damage output is likely not going to get better.

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DKDC, you still have your Lancelot at level 79? I've been seeing it for one week stuck at that level, and you're at only one level to max him LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 24, 2015, 01:43:06 pm
Yeah, I was discouraged to see the 300k exp required so I fed others last week with the new exp dailies and success rate up. I do need to have more people at higher level (my top is still Lancelot, Emiya lv70, Nero lv70, everyone else is 60 tops). But I'm nearly done with him, I got a super success. The only thing I wish for is to get a second Kaleido to limit break the one he has and give him more ATK bonus, but the CEs are stupidly hard to level up after the first limit, with only silver CEs.
I got quite lucky during the first couple months with the gold CEs, but with the new stuff since then, it's impossibly hard to pull a specific gold CE. I did get 4 Sakura CEs over the months, but the stat bonus she gives aren't as good unless I can really max her out (and ATK will still be less than lv20 Kaleido ! )
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 24, 2015, 02:53:57 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3u2avs/new_event_nov_25_looks_like_its_back_to_farming/

Okita is a 5* Gacha win (because Saberface obviously, that reason alone will always make them be Gold Servants). Nobunaga is like Caster Elizabeth, aka you get it after finishing the event, and has the same easy ascension requirements (basically one item for each ascension that you can only get in the event) and easy NP leveling since you get multiple copies for event items.

HECK! FUCKING! YEAH! THOUSAND GUNS INCOMING!!!!!!

The rewards for this event are quite ridiculous in how good they are. And really worth farming. And since I just got my 20 quartz reward for 100 days playing this game, I will try to get Okita, but I'm not expecting a miracle like Drake to happen again. And even if you don't have enough quartz, apparently you can buy them too with the in-game items you will get in this event, so yay.

In order to farm a lot more, apart from getting the usual CEs, if you have in your party Okita, Nobunaga, Emiya, Ushiwakamaru, Medusa, Lancer Cu (FSN version), Mephistopheles and Benkei, you should get more drops from them. Since we probably have all of them except maybe Emiya and obviously Okita unless a miracle happens, you should have an easier time farming them. Just make sure they have a high level.

And apparently we finally get items that we can use to level up CEs. About fucking time, getting a 5* CE to 100 seemed totally impossible to achieve.

Oh, and the maintenance that will happen before:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3u2e0b/scheduled_maintenance_nov_25_14001900_jst/

We finally get Tamamo's theme when using her NP, which should have happened from the very beginning. And many other fixes I don't understand.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 24, 2015, 07:04:30 pm
Starts tomorrow, lasts two weeks
written by Keikenchi (supervised by Nasu)
Collect Honnoji points to get Nobunaga
"the first and last (?)" gudaguda event
Honnoji points can get you Nobunaga and lots of stuff
Get more points by having certain Servants
Event-only CEs get you more hiragumo (spider kettle), Hyouhen Tenmoku Chawan (top grade black glaze rice bowl), Tsukumo Nasu (tea bottle), Honnoji points
Gudao CE : 500 (2000) ATK up, critical power 15% up, NP power 15% up, Honnoji points 30% up (uh, that's new)
Nobunaga (eh, that portrait is actually pretty good) NP Sandan Uchi special damage to all targets with Riding skill (hah, not Divinity or mystery, much better since he destroyed the until-then invincible Takeda cavalry with that), ascends with 4 Golden Skulls
EXP cards for CEs, limited to the event
Honnoji Points get you Oda, 4* CE EXP (Knob), 3* CE EXP (Oki-ta), plumes, scales, lores, quartz, golden apple, 2M/1M/500k QP
When the event is over, if you have more points than the limit, it'll be automatically converted (what ?), use the new button on the terminal to get to the event remuneration screen
Spider kettle gets you Gudao CE, golden skull, heart, chaos claw, infinity gear
rice bowl gets you Gudao CE, gold skull, page, eight-fold twinned crystal, void refuse
tea bottle gets you Gudao CE, gold skull, 3* HP Fou, 3* ATK Fou, 3* EXP, 4* EXP
Pickup rate has the guys that give Honnoji points increase. Okita won't be added to the Story gacha once the event is over.
Also 5* Ganban Musume (pretty girl who attracts people to your store, that's the Medusa-in-apron one), 4* Uchiage Order, 3* Fate Gudaguda Order increase the drops for event items

Holy shit that 5* Okita has huge HP. NP is Mumyou Sandan Zuki, super strong attack that ignores defense on a single target + defense down
Medusapron Maidusa CE gives taunt for 3t, attack 60% up for 3t, spider kettle drop +1
4* Uchiage Order is Quick +10%, Buster +10%, rice bowl +1
3* Gudaguda Order is quick, art, buster, star generation, star gathering, critical power, NP charge rate, NP power, debuff success, debuff resistance, HP regeneration all +1% and tea bottle drop +1

... Wow.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 24, 2015, 09:01:57 pm
It's madness I tell you. MADNESS.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 25, 2015, 01:02:57 pm
Am I the only one having issues connecting to the servers?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 25, 2015, 01:06:12 pm
Shouldn't there be a maintenance for the new event ? An if it's over, aren't the servers flooded for the first few hours ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 25, 2015, 01:08:00 pm
Shouldn't there be a maintenance for the new event ? An if it's over, aren't the servers flooded for the first few hours ?

That might be the case then. And yes, I do believe maintenance is over.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 25, 2015, 01:10:57 pm
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/sf5qew
Yeah, access issues.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 25, 2015, 07:56:23 pm
...Damn, I don't think I will ever get Nobunaga at level 5 NP. Those point requirements are so high...

And my luck wasn't even good in the 40 quartz roll. Only new Servant was Alexander (I even got two copies of it...), and only new CE was that Rin CE that boosts attack and defense for three turns. That's some shitty luck seriously.

Btw, I'm pretty sure they were all drunk when they made this scenario. I can't take it seriously LOL. Nobu~
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on November 25, 2015, 08:21:24 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I, uh, got a pretty good roll. At least I can now put Gilles on the bench.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 25, 2015, 08:50:24 pm
...

Don't mind me and the gun I'm aiming at you. Just keep going, 'kay?

Now seriously, nice luck there. If you put it as your main Servant (after you level it up of course) I will probably be using it.

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Oh hey, so apparently the Nobunaga you get in this event is only temporary, and you're forced to get one from the points else you will lose it. WTF, was it that hard just to give it to you as a reward?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on November 25, 2015, 09:30:50 pm
...

Don't mind me and the gun I'm aiming at you. Just keep going, 'kay?

Now seriously, nice luck there. If you put it as your main Servant (after you level it up of course) I will probably be using it.

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Oh hey, so apparently the Nobunaga you get in this event is only temporary, and you're forced to get one from the points else you will lose it. WTF, was it that hard just to give it to you as a reward?

I'll probably focus a good amount of free time tomorrow to leveling her up.


Re: Nobunaga: Egh, I really don't like the sound of temporary Nobunaga.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 25, 2015, 09:56:03 pm
If you want to maximize your points, you need to get the Gudao CEs as soon as possible, since there's daily quests that give tons of points. Use also a team that will give you points for that quest, since it's really easy to beat so far. I would suggest you put priority into getting Nobunaga first, and once you have it, try to get its Ascension materials. Don't put priority to her NP unless you've gotten all the ascension materials from the items, since you're not reaching 1M points unless you spend lots of apples of quartz.

It would be great if after the event you could trade the event items for points, but for now put that as your main order.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 25, 2015, 11:13:42 pm
WTF @ the second story node.
Ushiwakamaru and Benk Sessai are chillin' around, sitting in a field, stargazing and eating, they see a strange lifeform (midget form Knob) run around and ignore it. In the forest, you find Knob with Arash and fight them. Arash threatens to end the fight with Stella, so your party runs away even though Arash points out the range is 2500 KM. You dash across the field, past Ushiwakamaru and Benkei Sessai who are wondering who you guys are.
"Oh, Benkei I mean Sessai, is that some firework ?
- Uh, lord, you gave my full name. No, I haven't heard anything about that.
- a shooting star then ?
- Maybe, it's shining really bright. I think it's coming this way. This bright light is fitting for this beautiful nigh-
- STELLAAAAAAAA !!!
BOOOOOM
- ... Uh. No way. A great general, genius that I am, wiped out in an instant... I'm sorry, my older brother, our dream..."
*Ushi and Benkei die*
(Mashu) "Nope, no sign of any more Servant anywhere."
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 26, 2015, 08:22:52 am
Well, they let Keikenchi create the story (with Nasu revising it, most likely only to make sure that it wouldn't conflict with the Fate lore). He sure went all out here.

The Gudao CE is quite funny too. Okita mentions how Nobunaga has been nerfed a lot in the game (her profile that came out in Koha-Ace made her really powerful), while Nobunaga tells her that in her case, well, there wasn't any need to nerf her. And then they punch each other.

But honestly, I tried Okita, and heck, she has been buffed IMO, compared to her description in Koha-Ace. She can generate lots of crit stars, and her NP is a single target Quick, the best kind of NP you can possibly get for damage. Her skills are also quite good too, with one similar to Crossing Arcadia I believe. She's one of the best Sabers in the game, which I wasn't expecting at all. Sasuga Saberface.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 26, 2015, 10:30:19 am
A Servant... gold Saber... 5*... Oh hi fucking Altera. Everybody stopped giving a shit about you long ago.
(OTOH I got a third Emiya, good)

Yeah, Okita is a Saber that plays like an Archer, and being a 5* gives her massive stats. I like those Servants in one class that play like another class (like Caesar being a Saber that plays like a Rider, he was strong for a 3*). Hoping Musashi will be a Saber that plays like a Berserker, the 5* version of Arturia Alter, with Mad Enhancement EX and Bravery and the Mind's Eye that enhances crit power.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 26, 2015, 12:00:06 pm
Congrats for getting a 5* Servant. I personally like her more than Arturia, even if Arturia is better than her in the game.

Drake is the same, she's basically a Gilgamesh but without the need to even boost her star collection rate since it's insanely high in her case. Together with Nobunaga which also is quite good at generating stars AND raising her NP (she even has a skill that boosts the entire party NP generation), they make a tremendous combo at creating stars, using them and spamming their NP.

But what I like more is those nice attack animations from those two (and including Okita too). A lot of the old Servants just share the same attack animations, while Drake, Nobunaga and Okita have unique and really cool ones. I wish they applied it for all Servants, but I guess it won't happen. So far I believe that apart from those three, Caster Elizabeth, Tamamo Caster and Gilgamesh are the only ones with unique ones.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 27, 2015, 12:45:59 am
I do believe the servers got messed up again.
I'm unable to connect after I fought Eric Bloodaxe.

EDIT: And yes, my tablet was connected to the internet.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 27, 2015, 12:50:22 am
Got cut off too at the end of a fight.
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/q6iti
Will last yet a bit over an hour. Four more quartz and as many apples for next daily gift.
Disregard that, I got my timezones messed up. But hey, can you blame me with all these maintenances happening all day long.
Apparently the error message now just say "can't connect" (remember when the app launched it told you there was a maintenance, now it just doesn't know), so when that happens, check up typemoon.com/news and see if there's a 緊急メンテナンス (emergency maintenance) and verify the time zone.

... I reached 40 more quartz and did a 10-roll.
Got a gold Archer.
Artemis Orion.

What the hell is going on with this pickup increased rate. I'm getting none of the pickup Servants (just Hassans and Alexanders and Kiyohimes when it's not millions of magic gems) and crazy 5* rolls that were big two months ago but nobody cares about them anymore, and yet I've never had better luck with rolls. I don't even know if I can carry these guys up all the way to a relevant level (the new EXP dailies are awesome, but I won't touch them again before the end of the event).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 27, 2015, 01:00:56 am
I got kicked from the 40 AP quest too. Damn, I hope I haven't lost any drop from it. At this rate, I will get enough for another 40 quartz roll.

Seriously, I'm not sure if the event was badly programmed or something else fucked up, but this is the worst server down situation we've encountered.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 27, 2015, 01:02:22 am
I got kicked from the 40 AP quest too. Damn, I hope I haven't lost any drop from it. At this rate, I will get enough for another 40 quartz roll.

Seriously, I'm not sure if the event was badly programmed or something else fucked up, but this is the worst server down situation we've encountered.

I'm surprised that something managed to top what happened during the Halloween Event.
But as long as I get quartz to do a 10 roll, I guess I'll be satisfied.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 27, 2015, 01:03:22 am
Damn, I hope I haven't lost any drop from it.
That never happens.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 27, 2015, 01:05:25 am
I'm surprised that something managed to top what happened during the Halloween Event.
But as long as I get quartz to do a 10 roll, I guess I'll be satisfied.

What happened in the Halloween event was people logging in at the same time because of the specific time events and the servers being unable to handle that much traffic at the same time. This is something completely different, servers going down at random for no reason, and DW has no idea why it's happening yet.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 27, 2015, 01:08:37 am
They're adding new functionalities at the same time as they're releasing a new time limited farming events, is what's happening. The shop has a slider that lets you buy multiple copies of items at once, I've seen a glitch that lets you multiply the number of items in your present box, and a few more stuff, that's what's glitching and they have to turn everything off to fix it. On one hand, people aren't really noticing it because they're busy farming and not buying stuff in the shop, and on the other hand, people are in a hurry to farm and increasing server load and DW can't catch up with those who do notice it among all the people playing at once.

Seriously, do this stuff when you have lesser events, like the success rate up or the generic pickup rates, not when everyone needs to farm because your events seem like they'll take forever to gather all the limited currencies needed to buy out the whole shop.


I think I was around 55k Honnoji Points, I'm having a hard time getting good sources of points in those event quests that aren't the "once a day" gold one (I always bring a support Okita with my Emiya, Nobu, Medusa, FSNCu, Ushi team). Eh, I guess it'll be like Halloween, the daily quests will have a difficulty ramp up with more and more drops as time goes... But I've already invested in my temporary Nobunaga (lv23), I wish I could hurry up and get the first permanent one. As for the rice bowl / kettle / bottle currencies, no special CE drop/roll so far beside Order Launch.
... I love those chibi Nobu and that voice.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 27, 2015, 01:19:58 am
I'm at 170K, but god knows how many apples I have spent for this. I sure as heck won't be using more of them, thank god for maintenance giving you apples too. At least I'm sure I will get up to level 3 NP for Nobunaga without them.

I would rather wait for later quests or changes in case they increase the points. For now I have all but 1 skull for Nobunaga. Once I have this, I will be farming materials unavailable in the game. What's really bullshit is that you need like 800 items for some materials and you get between 10-20 in all quests. While this is acceptable for the 10AP quest, this kills me in the 20AP and 40AP quest.

Come on, DW, the Nero event was also hard to farm everything, but at least it wasn't impossible to get more than half of the things. This event is clearly impossible to get without wasting tons of apples/quartz. Please either increase the amount of drops or just reduce the cost. 30 for just one damn material is bullshit with the current rates. And even more that you need 10 event items to upgrade to next tier with those shitty rates too.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on November 27, 2015, 04:20:09 am
Also, is anyone getting this bug where Nobunaga freezes in place during her extra attack?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 27, 2015, 06:23:47 am
Yeah, it has happened to me quite a bit.

As for apples, it's better to save them until they potentially improve the drop rates near the end of the event, like they did during the halloween event, where everyone was worried about pumpkins and then everyone had way too many of them.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 27, 2015, 09:06:36 am
Oh hey maintenance time! Again! Right after I woke up!

Just how many times have they gone into maintenance mode in this event?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3ufumm/maintenance_today_from_1700_1830_in_one_hour/

This means that I have indeed lost my progress in that 40AP quest that I was unable to complete yesterday. Yay!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 27, 2015, 02:08:39 pm
So now they're actually losing servers to the point they can lose info on what you were doing ? That's a new low. Really hope they have a good separation of playing servers and player database, but how can we trust them with that at this point.

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Oh come the fuck on, it's still down ?? Just got in after a few tries but it's slow.
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/xdmqoc the event has been extended 2 days until the 11th, but that still won't be enough. If that shit keeps going on, it'll end up pushing back the Christmas event (Santa Iskandar expected) and new years event and they'll have to come up back to back. How much do they expect people to pay for these fucked up gachas in that time period ? The alternative is stop extending it and instead triple the drop rates so that everyone has a shot.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 27, 2015, 08:00:25 pm
Hahaha, as if they will do that.

Fortunately I just logged in and I have not lost the quest, unlike other people. I'm glad it hasn't happened to me.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 27, 2015, 10:49:06 pm
Finally got those Twinned Crystals and got FSN Cu's final ascension T_T That was such a pain, Alexander will wait because I'll pace myself on them. Next pain is, as always, the Dragon Teeth (because apparently fucking everyone needs 50 of those), but those aren't sold in the event shop so that'll wait two more weeks.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 28, 2015, 10:49:21 pm
I should probably ascend my Cu, I don't think I'll be able to clear the next set of missions with my "Everyone is LV40/only at their first ascension" farming team (Cu, Medusa, Ushiwakamaru, Mephistopheles, Nobunaga). The assassin mission will be a huge pain because I have two riders so I might replace one for Benkei.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 28, 2015, 11:04:31 pm
Yeah, with how the level keeps increasing, and seeing how the only available 4* are both Archers (Emiya, Nobunaga), It'll be super hard to keep up. I'll probably leave a Lancelot in my team just to be sure, because when we'll be facing Lancers and Archers, it'll be a slaughterhouse. I'll max out my Cu, keep Lancelot, and hope for an Okita for the Lancer days, and for Archer days, Emiya, Cu and maybe Nobunaga if I can level her enough. Lancelot isn't going to last very long against lv70 to 90 enemies with a billion HP (that's just fucking disgusting BTW).
The good thing is that by that time, you're likely to have bought the four Gudao CE (I managed to get one to drop), so switching out one of the special Servants for someone better with the CE is acceptable.

... Lol my Benkei and Mephisotpheles are still lv 6 and 12 respectively. I never touched these fuckers (except Meph for Fuyuki since he's who I rolled the very first time).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 29, 2015, 06:12:32 am
Benkei might be a 2*. but at least he'll be able to tank some stuff.
The only problem is that if the content is as hard as the Halloween event's final batch of content (Like that boss rush), there's no way I'll be able to bring a single character from my farming team, maaaybe one or two, but that's it. I wish I had an Emiya haha.

So yeah, I expect those final events to give us a bunch of points, but in exchange for the usual difficulty spikes (Not to mention that doing any Brave chain with Nobunaga is always a gamble, we've had tons of maintenances and they still haven't fixed that glitch, really?)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 29, 2015, 11:18:55 am
New daily 40 AP quest sports three easy ghosts, one tough ghosts, and a Mata Hari with a gold Nobu and a silver Nobu. Needless to say, don't bring Riders there (which sucks the fact that two of the Servants that give points are Riders...). Caster Elizabeth shines in this quest, same as Medea.

Honestly, I'm really scared of the future daily quests. Mata Hari was only easy because she had no skills nor NP that you had to worry about. But only because of that. Had this been another Assassin, winning with the Servants that grant more points would have been really hard. And points are precisely one thing that it's hard to sacrifice if you want to reach 1M to level Nobunaga's NP to 5.

Btw guys, I'm at 300K points right now. Is this a reasonable amount or should I farm this current daily a bit more?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 29, 2015, 01:05:12 pm
Uuuugh. Stun spam. And already looking forward to evade spam.

Marie. Medusa. FSN Cu. Heracles if we get a second run at Berserkers.
Fuck you, game.
(then again we've only gotten bronze and silver Servant bosses, so who knows, there's still some hope that it won't be an absolute nightmare)

As for points, I'm just at the second Nobu, so 250k. The best I got is either point CE or bowl CE, and I won't be rolling much more, so farming for kettles will be super slow. The next rewards are tons of plumes and some scales, it just depends on which specific material you want most, really.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 29, 2015, 02:14:49 pm
Stun spam, debuff stacking, that was... not exactly super hard, but too annoying and took forever.
I am so not farming this one, I'll keep farming the 30AP with my usual team.

I'm also lacking event CE's so this is going to take quite a bit.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 29, 2015, 03:23:13 pm
I personally didn't find it that hard. Caster Elizabeth takes so little damage from her and fills her NP so fast that she always survives to the end and hits her with her NP 2-3 to,es (she's also at the max level she can be and has the Halloween Iris CE maxed). I lose all my Servants except Lancer Cu and Mephistopheles against her.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on November 29, 2015, 04:20:10 pm
My only worthwhile Caster is Caster Cu (locked before his final ascension). He won on his own (NP charge up CE + lv5 3 NP, she got torched no problem), but it's super grating when Mata Hari spams her charm stun and I'm just sitting here for three turns in a row. I never really leveled Caster Liz (she's at 51 40), I could max her out but I never focused on her with EXP. And QP daily isn't the good daily to realize that.
edit - actually I keep forgetting Medea and Waver, both lv 50. ... But who wouldn't.

... I was just checking, you already need 800 kettles for the last skull and last 2 Gudao CEs. I'm probably going to skip those and never max Nobu's NP, because I do want the Chaos Claws, Gears, and maybe some Hearts and a couple of Horseshoes (Jesus Christ everything costs Kettles). I'm at loss at how the fuck you're supposed to farm for kettles when the kettle CE is a 5* gacha-only and you're already really lucky if you roll it once (maybe it'll be a drop later on but probably not + we all saw how wonderfully well that went with Succubus Iri). They really really want people to cough up hundreds of bucks just before the holiday season. The Christmas event better give up completely free stuff with the shit they're pulling.

290k Honnoji Points, maybe I can get close to the million by the end. Not sure I'll hit it depending on the difficulty (no way I'm touching a Lv90 quest).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 29, 2015, 06:31:11 pm
I just gave up on the materials. Unless you have multiple copies of the CEs that increase the drops, which I obviously don't have except for the 10 AP quest, it's not worth farming any of them. I'm going to stick with farming the 10 AP quest AFTER I'm done with the Honnouji points simply for the Fou cards which are really attractive.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on November 30, 2015, 09:26:58 am
They really really want people to cough up hundreds of bucks just before the holiday season. The Christmas event better give up completely free stuff with the shit they're pulling.
This is DW, they actually want people to use up all their apples and Quartz so they can milk them even harder during the holiday event.
But yeah, even with the extension, unless you have Medusa's CE it'll be impossible to get everything (I'm reaaaaallly behind because my OCD forces me to clear all the dailies for prisms and then I use an apple for a handful of 30AP runs, I barely got one golden skull)

Anyways, this is more of a "Pick what you need unless you're extremely lucky" instead of "buy everything" event, and since I lack a good 4* archer I think I'm going to get Nobu to NP LV5... if I can... and then get all the materials I can.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on November 30, 2015, 10:29:08 pm
Did a 40 quartz roll out of boredom and holy shit
Hello 2 Robin Hoods,Hello Hercules,Hello Lancer Liz

I'm probably not gonna get anything worthwhile out of this event,although those CE level up items are fucking good
I hope they stick around after the event
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 30, 2015, 10:59:27 pm
I haven't gotten anything I didn't already have from the gacha, which has been great for some NPs and craft essences but disheartening to say the least

I'm wondering if I should save the 45 quartz I have for Christmas or try one more time for Souji
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 01, 2015, 12:33:02 am
Why have they still not fixed Nobunaga's Brave Chain game breaking freeze ?? It's been a week ! And I'm here pulling all 5 of Nobu's cards in a turn, having to get out of the fight. What, do we just decide to not use Nobu at all anymore ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 01, 2015, 03:32:07 am
My gacha roll was pretyt awful too, I got  three Ushis, some Robin Hoods... tons of duplicate servants and my 4* was Karen's CE. Not a single event CE. Screw that, I'm saving my Quartz.

Why have they still not fixed Nobunaga's Brave Chain game breaking freeze ?? It's been a week ! And I'm here pulling all 5 of Nobu's cards in a turn, having to get out of the fight. What, do we just decide to not use Nobu at all anymore ?
Apparently, if you run the game at normal speed you can avoid the glitch. Or it could be placebo, I just know that it hasn't happened to me while playing at normal speed. Still yeah, pretty annoying.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 01, 2015, 08:22:21 am
Hahaha, the new 40AP quest sports a Drake in the last fight, with 220K health. And as you probably know, she can raise her own NP (in my fight she only did it once, but maybe I was lucky so don't use this as reference). Fortunately that skill doesn't grant her the "Ignore Invincibility/Dodge" buff like it does with your Servant version, because if it did then this event quest would be impossible to win without spending CS or quartz. Forget about bringing anything but a Jeanne as support if you want to even have a chance.

Next 40AP quest, Gilgamesh spamming Enuma Elish all the time. Because we have to make it fair for all players, right DW?

-----

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3uzdul/maintenance_122_1400/

They reopen the 40AP quests. I'm so glad they do so. I can easily win Mata Hari's interlude so thank god for that. Beating Drake is a pain in the ass.

Also, they will fix the annoying bug with Nobunaga's Brave Chain.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 01, 2015, 08:25:58 pm
Beating Drake is a pain in the ass.
Eh, I bring Lancelot as a sacrifice to crush the centaurs, Emiya still, whatever support I can get (High level Carmilla if I can, but if not, no problem), then Hassan Lv 61 and Kojiroh Lv 50 are in the back to crit Drake to death when Lancelot dies (with the blaze of glory from his gattling gun). But the support doesn't always die and Emiya hangs on, so I never need my safety Vlad with codecast. I can still manage and I can get maybe 20 kettles a run. I still have hope for one or two quests. Maybe I'll get enough kettles for the gears and claws for CasCu's final ascension and the last golden skull, which is the minimum I'm hoping for.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 01, 2015, 10:31:40 pm
(High level Carmilla if I can)
Yeah, I switched my main unit to my Lv80 Carmilla (And then got a good ten friend requests in less than an hour)

I'll most likely switch back to either Lancelot or Nobunaga later.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 01, 2015, 10:54:28 pm
I saw that and used her (lv 80 on Carmilla, woah, nice). I had to try a few times with someone who has the Maidusa CE though, but I got my kettles and final ascended CasCu, it was a long wait since about Rome \o/ The last skull should be easy enough.
All in all, if you only care for what you really need, the event is going kind of well.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 01, 2015, 11:22:34 pm
I have a level 70 Stheno, so in terms of dealing damage it wasn't that bad, but the problem was getting hit by the NP. At least in Mata Hari's case I didn't have to worry about that. I'm going to farm her quest when it comes out again honestly, since for me it's easier with my level 80 Caster Elizabeth. Unless it's easy to land an instant kill to Drake, in that case I could level up Hassan which I have at his third ascension and attempt it with him.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 01, 2015, 11:42:15 pm
She ate a few Zabaniyas from me, none got an instant kill. I don't count on it.

You know, I do find it nice that this event is making you switch around classes and rediscover old Servants. I never took the time to try again guys like Sasaki and Hassan with the upgraded crit mechanics, and I never touched Carmilla either before. But at high level, 1* and 2* Servants like a lv50 Sasaki still play out very easy if you pay attention to class advantage. And now I appreciate their skills too. Before that, I just hated how Hassan was still a lousy hitter (so's Robin too). But multiply his ATK by 4 (class adv + crit) and suddenly you can take on a 250k HP Lv 65 Drake.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 02, 2015, 12:02:41 am
There are some Servants that are beyond salvation, like Mata Hari (and I have her at third ascension and she's not good, so sorry for her), but yeah, they do help you rediscover the usefulness of other Servants. Hassan does shine in this quest, same as Kojirou if you pull his Tsubame Gaeshi at level 5 (god lord the damage it does).

And now that I realise it, nearly all my Assassin Servants are at their third ascension. I didn't even notice it myself until now LOL.

------

New 40AP quest, Lancer quest. My god the difficulty of this quest. It's so easy compared to the previous one. Bring an Okita, and you've basically won. You also get 8000 Honnouji or more if you have a 300% or more, and they give you a lot more Hiragumos. It's a really good quest to farm, but personally I'm waiting for Caster quest where I will rape all the enemies there with Drake.

-------

Caster quest is here, and as expected I'm wrecking this quest with my Drake. Feel free to use it to quickly win in it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 05, 2015, 04:20:07 pm
It's probably a good thing that I have Ruler because of the Saberface AI.
But Gilles can be piss easy if you have Mary and Anne or Drake.
Also I set my leader to Mary/Anne if anyone needs them for it....if you added me that is.

EDIT: So I think I made a mistake, because the Honnoji event Gilles doesn't go out of his way to attack Ruler. Probably because this Gilles has a different name or something.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 05, 2015, 04:33:25 pm
75k Honnoji Points at some 350% bonus with this new 1AP daily, passed the 4th Nobu card. I don't know why there was ever any worry about getting enough of those points, you can expect at least 400k more.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 05, 2015, 05:16:05 pm
Because we didn't expect the points to increase so much over time. I will surely get all gifts that require Honnouji points at this rate, instead of only reach 1M.

And my god, the drop rate for hearts in that new quest is so high... I got a total of two in 6 battles. And it also has Snake Eyes for Medusa to reach her third ascension. It's the quest we were all waiting for...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 06, 2015, 08:34:27 pm
I'm being daring and not switching my farming team for the caster quest since I have two riders.
Medusa doesn't seem as effective as Ushiwakamaru against Gilles though, usually she and Cu are the last ones standing but hey, yay for optimized farming (Nobu, Okita support, Medusa, Ushiwakamaru, Cu and Mephisto)

Also I accidentally entered the archer 40AP with my farming team instead of my usual A team (Lancelot, Carmilla, Caster Liz, Nobunaga, all Lv80 and Mashu at 40) and Cu solo'd Emiya and Gil. He just earned his final ascension.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 06, 2015, 08:41:43 pm
KaiserHero's Mary and Anne have made this quest even easier than the Berseker quest for me. Hopefully I can farm enough kettles today to get my last golden skull and I can focus on ascension items for the rest of the event (don't really care about the crafting essence).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 07, 2015, 12:47:49 pm
New Archer quest, and as expected, it has a Nobunaga as the last opponent. And as expected, Lancer Cu can inflict 100K damage to her with the proper buffs. Caster quest is far better for farming though, specially for the Demon Hearts, unless you want Dragon Scales or Phoenix Feather which can be farmed in this new quest. Yeah, Dragon Scales, because again they thought that putting yet another Fafnir as enemy was a really original idea...

And with this we have 7 quests released. We will probably get a last one that will be a boss rush in order to get Crystalized Lore, and it will be over. Will probably do a last YOLO roll before the event ends, and that's it. So far my last ticket has given me a Carmilla, so I can say this event was great for getting Servants or CE that didn't have a higher chance to get them. Thanks to it I have all Assassins in the game and all Silver Servants except ROMA!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 07, 2015, 03:28:26 pm
Cu deserves a final ascension for saving my ass all the time.
 No Lancer ga shinda when he's one of the best lancers.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 07, 2015, 04:41:11 pm
So I killed Nobunaga "easily" but Cus arrow protection got turned off and I got killed by a golden Nobu
ripperoni my 3 command spells
Probably the hardest one since that level 40 quest.

Also I completely forgot that I need skulls to ascend Nobunaga and probably won't be able to get any in time
Fuck
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 07, 2015, 04:50:57 pm
Ouch. You bought everything else first ? Or you just didn't farm much ? The skull bought with spider kettle should be doable seeing the increasing drops, and the one from tea gourds should be farmable even without gudaguda ce, since it's just 10AP. The rice bowls are the hardest ones if you don't have the CE, the drops are a bit too random on the 20 AP.
But you'll blow some apples either way.

That said, hacks seem to indicate that the Christmas events might give yo another chance to get event-limited items, including ascension items... maybe.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 07, 2015, 06:00:35 pm
I just completely forgot and I only played those quests to get Ascension materials and stuff so I didn't farm enough to buy anything for Nobu.
I'll be waiting for that Christmas event then

On another note,I'm not even mad that they turned her into a meme servant,I actually like silly Nobunaga for once(Nice breath of fresh air from the SW and SB ones)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 07, 2015, 06:49:13 pm
,I actually like silly Nobunaga for once(Nice breath of fresh air from the SW and SB ones)
Well, I don't know about SB, but SW Nobunaga is decently historically accurate, sooooo... It kinda rubs me wrong to hear people wanting historical characters to be specifically changed from historical source. Just don't use Nobunaga ? Especially not one in a freaking Japanese Nazi uniform just because "it looks cool".
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 07, 2015, 06:59:56 pm
Well, according to her profile and her comments in My Room, Nobunaga's not a joke/meme character. It's just that the event in which she appears in is silly like the source where she comes from, and they had to make her silly in that event so she fits perfectly in it. Same for Okita, in fact. I wish they add in the future one serious Interlude for them that focuses more on their lore rather than the GUDAGUDA part.

And for the Christmas event, I'm expecting an obvious event-only Rider Servant since it clearly fits the theme.  Not that I lack Rider Servants, in fact I have way too many of them, with Marie and Drake at max ascension. But hey, I always thank a free Servant, Marie was certainly the best Servant I could have picked in the free 4* Servant event.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 07, 2015, 07:53:57 pm
I seriously didn't think I would get Nobunaga's NP to level 5, but it happened.
I might use her often.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on December 07, 2015, 09:31:13 pm
I seriously didn't think I would get Nobunaga's NP to level 5, but it happened.
I might use her often.

Use her.

I probably won't get her NP to level 5 due to work and my low level team.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 08, 2015, 10:20:24 am
Oh hey, the last quest is now available. You fight weaker versions of all Servants you fight in the 40 AP quest (which are easy to kill), some Giant Gold Nobus and lastly an Okita Souji appearing as a last surprise, but if you have a proper leveled Nobunaga it really trivializes the whole fights, you get more than 30 Hiragumos in that quest, making this quest the best to farm in order to get all the Hiragumos you could need. It's an easy fight as long as you don't stick with only Servants that give points.

The quest ends in three days, so people, try to farm whatever you need before it runs away.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 08, 2015, 11:05:31 am
https://mobile.twitter.com/fgoproject/status/674153725137543168
【カルデア広報局より】次回イベント情報!
強化しておくといいことがあるサーヴァントを初公開!ガイウス・ユリウス・カエサル、荊軻、ダビデ、ダレイオス三世、ファントム・オブ・ジ・オペラ、マリー・アントワネット、マルタ、ロビンフッド!イベントの続報は15日に発表予定です #FateGO
Chaldea PSA - Next event info ! 
Level up Caesar, Jing Ke, David, Darius, Phantom, Marie Antoinette, Martha, Robin ! To be continued on the 15th.

Whaaaaat
Once more, it's nice that they're making us use Servants you probably never use, but no way everyone isn't totally underleveled. I have Caesar and David at 50 (both ascension locked - CRYSTAAaAAAaAALS !!!) and Robin at 64, and everyone else at the bottom - if I have them.
Oh well, 2 weeks to spam the EXP dailies and put all your waifus in the backburner.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 08, 2015, 01:16:03 pm
Marie Antoinette and Jing Ke are the only ones I have with a high level. Caesar and Darius are the only ones at a reasonable level, and the rest are at their second ascension, as I only raised them enough to get their interludes. Oh well, from this list, I will only level up Robin and that's it, we will probably get another 4* Servant from this event and maybe a 5* Servant as gatcha only.

Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Lost_Avenger on December 08, 2015, 01:23:27 pm
I want to play this, but can't. Is it Japanese only? I love the bits of fate I've watched anime wise. Sorry for being new to this
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 08, 2015, 01:45:06 pm
It's Japanese only. On Android, you have to allow your phone to install apps from outside Google Play, then get the apk (through the other app qooapp or similar). On iPhone, I think you can simply make an account on the  Japanese market place ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on December 08, 2015, 03:38:33 pm
I play it on my comp using an Android emulator called Bluestacks, so that's an option if you don't have a smartphone or you've got an iPhone that's 4s or below (like me!).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 08, 2015, 04:44:56 pm
I'm ready for the next event.

(http://i.imgur.com/HEBIvkf.jpg)

If you have any suggestions for CE (except Kaleidoscope, please), then feel free to give some. I still have to level some of them up a bit more, but yeah, this is going to be my team. If you have also a recommendation for who I should level up then I will take it too.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on December 08, 2015, 06:34:55 pm
Level up Caesar, Jing Ke, David, Darius, Phantom, Marie Antoinette, Martha, Robin ! To be continued on the 15th.

Oh god I only have Jing Ke and Fantomas and they're both level 1. Crap.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 08, 2015, 09:07:23 pm
Chaldea PSA - Next event info ! 
Level up Caesar, Jing Ke, David, Darius, Phantom, Marie Antoinette, Martha, Robin ! To be continued on the 15th.
NO, WHY.
I only worked on Robin RIP.

Looks Like I'll have to work on David and Caesar. Maybe Jing too. Or Darius.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 08, 2015, 09:21:44 pm
I already have Jing maxed out and I only need to feed her Fous till she becomes zee strongest.
David and Robin will be leveled up eventually and I don't think I have Caesar now,I probably burned him away.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 08, 2015, 09:52:52 pm
I already have Jing maxed out and I only need to feed her Fous till she becomes zee strongest.
David and Robin will be leveled up eventually and I don't think I have Caesar now,I probably burned him away.

...Why? Caesar is a good Saber if you don't have any of the 4* or 5* Sabers. His NP does a lot of damage, and he can really help your party with Charisma and Military Tactics. I would understand if you had done that with Gilles, but you really wasted a decent Servant here.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 08, 2015, 09:56:38 pm
But I already have Chevalier,Sieg and Alter,and I burned him back then because of the servant limit(I raised it to 60 now)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 08, 2015, 11:10:17 pm
I have Caesar with his NP at level 5, and I tested him and he does tons of damage if he has his own buffs and my master buff with him (nearly reaching the 100K damage). Also as his buffs work on your entire party, he really does a good job at supporting others. His third skill even increases crit damage of any party member of your choice, though at the cost of inflicting defense down, but for some Servants that have anti-debuff skills that's hardly a problem, and an increase of crit damage on Drake is insane, believe me, specially when she loves to generate and absorb all the stars she generates. So yeah, it was quite a waste of a move you did there IMO, even if you had Alter there (Sigfried and d'Eon are tanks, so they can't really be compared to a damage dealer like Caesar).

But more importantly, these news!

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3vxd4f/maintenance_on_129_from_1400_1600_jst/

So yeah, new Servants tomorrow people (or rather today for anybody living in Japan). Hope we finally get another 4* or 5* Lancer. We seriously need one.

----

I just woke up and saw that Diarmuid, Fergus and Scathach are the new Servants available. So I decided to roll and...

(http://i.imgur.com/6iltrwG.jpg)

I... I have no words. I guess I can't say anymore that I'm not lucky.

Btw, Scathach is time-limited, meaning once this gatcha ends you will have to wait for her to be available in the future. Basically, like Gilgamesh and Tamamo.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 09, 2015, 11:19:31 am
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/lhubgt
5* time limited Scathach with gigantic HP stat and a crazy good-looking NP
Diarmuid and Fergus are 3* (Diarmuid has shit ATK), Caladbolg is an actual fucking drill. That spins. And causes earthquakes.
Twice CE Fragment of 2030 (the year) generates 8 stars per turn, Dan gives 40% crit power up and 20% def down, Demon boar (THAT'S GAE BUIDHE IT'S EATING) is quick 15% up.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 09, 2015, 11:22:56 am
Scathach Noble Phantasm.



I never thought Gae Bolg could become more broken than it is. Wooooooow.

And that CE that generates 8 stars every turn. EVERY TURN! My god the monstruosities I just got.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 09, 2015, 07:37:11 pm
Silver Archer... David.
Silver Archer... David.
Silver Berserker... Darius.
Silver Berserker... Darius.
Silver Saber.... Gilles.
Silver Saber... psyche, it's Fergus. "Hi. I'm Fergus Mac Roich. Soooo... Have you seen Cu Chulainn around ?"

Oh.... second Kaleido.
Immediately merged into the first one. Then fed more than 15 Nobu (and some Okita) CE EXP. I get over 1000 ATK bonus. And my Knight of Honor with Master ATK buff deals... over 160k damage total on 3 enemies.
Glorious.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 10, 2015, 01:48:51 am
(http://i.imgur.com/tRaEcvu.png)
...This is the wrong lancer... Oh well, at least I got Kojiro's waifu...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 11, 2015, 10:29:14 am
There was a guy I friendlisted a while back who had an Arturia Alter lv80 with NP lv5 and Kaleido. That guy switched to a lv90 Scathach with a maxed out Kaleido. He's nuts and probably broke or rich but I love him.

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http://typemoon.com/news/2015/v4le09
Next update between late Dec and early jan
Master level cap up
New uses for command seals (I think it's the master spells, not the revive/full heal options)
New master wear

You can uses a different ce on the same servant in different parties... ? Am I reading that right ? I've been really wanting that ! Having an ass kicking party and a farming party (or more for different farm item / enemy types) was a big pain.
Fixing bug where other people wouldn't see your final ascension art but the third art instead
Increased number of possible parties ?

Changes to the UI about confirming consumption of Fou cards
UI changes about limit broken ce for the support

LONDON BITCHES
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 11, 2015, 02:59:26 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3wd9fi/upcoming_update/

We finally get the chance to have different parties with Servants using the same CG. God, that was one thing that was really needed. The Fou one was also needed, that way I can know how many Fous I need to use to fully max Drake. The Master level increase is... meh, I guess. At the level we are, and without an specialized quest, unless you spam tons of quartz nobody is probably going to get a lot of benefits from it, unless we can do another 40AP quest with the AP gain.

And no, it's not Master spells, it's command spells. Basically, we will be able to use them for something else apart from full heal or full revive. It's okay, I guess, though I wonder what can beat those two things. Filling NP bar to the max for one Servant using one CS?

OH, AND LONDON!!!!! JACK THE RIPPER IS COMING!!!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 11, 2015, 03:14:57 pm
Quote
New clothes for masters
If the clothes really do bring new skills for masters like it was rumored then this is gonna be a fucking grind
I'm more than ready to play dress up tho

And I'm really curious as to who we will get besides Jack in London.
Jekyll and Hyde should be in but I do really want to see Tesla finally make an appearance.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 11, 2015, 03:26:42 pm
And no, it's not Master spells, it's command spells. Basically, we will be able to use them for something else apart from full heal or full revive. It's okay, I guess, though I wonder what can beat those two things. Filling NP bar to the max for one Servant using one CS?
I know it says command seals, I just don't know what that's about. Yeah, instant NP is the only thing that makes sense on top of instant full heal. But even then, it'd have to be really worth it to stray further away from getting all 3 CS back for party-wide full heal + free NP. That's why I'm not so sure.

Then again I suppose it's annoying to do it once then wait 3 days, so maybe one CS for one instant NP can be okay. It's just that it'll be harder for people to get 3 CS again...
... wait, that's just another plot to have us spend quartz instead of the 3 CS. Damn it, sasuga DW.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 11, 2015, 05:48:09 pm
Speaking of DW, in Sunday the servers will go down for a long time. Apparently DW has finally decided to switch for better servers so what happened in Halloween never happens again (basically, trying to avoid the inevitable doom that will come in Christmas if they do nothing). They will give 10 quartz as apology.

I hope this is the last time we see Fou running away for eternity.

Oh, and these are the command spells that were datamined in prerelease data:

Quote
100% NP charge to the whole team
Force the card draw to be all Quick/Buster/Arts.
All skills recharged.
Switch a servant between the front row and back row.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 11, 2015, 06:55:10 pm
Hmm...
Servant switching sounds cool. All skills recharged, nice.
All Q/B/A sounds maybe not very necessary, since if you need something that badly to the point of wasting a CS, you should probably think about building yourself a better team (based on crits, NP building, or BUSTER ALL DAY). For something close to that, I'd rather imagine one that forces all cards to be from one specific Servant, rather than a specific type. It would remove the one issue I have with the crit game : the randomness factor. You don't know how many stars you'll generate, what Servants will appear in your hand, what card they'll get, which cards will get more stars... it's way too unstable to make life-or-death plans over it - unless you just splurge and get 40 stars in one turn or keep popping a bunch of stars all day long. Forcing all cards from one Servant would at least let you not worry about what cards will come in the next hand.
I don't really see how you would come to need a CS to force an all Q/B/A hand. But hey, that was in the first release, before stuff like Zhuge Liang boost and crit game revamp came up, so maybe it's not going to be that anymore.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 12, 2015, 08:07:30 pm
Thank god we can finally have the same CE on different teams, it should've been like that in the first place goddamn, that was totally defeating the purpose of teams.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 13, 2015, 11:59:15 am
In a few hours the servers will go down due to migrating everything to better ones. Just in case, if you haven't done so yet, make sure to bind your account, which should be a MUST DO just starting the game.

Also, reminder that starting at 15th December we will get the new event that requires certain specific Servants to get points (check previous posts to know which ones). Make sure to have a prepared party (levels and skills) for this event to maximize your gain.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 15, 2015, 06:07:59 am
Ugh, the Christmas even starts tomorrow and I still haven't maxed out St.Martha.

Oh so you know where to find the usual info, we get ANOTHER special Saber, Jack The Ripper, the usual event CEs...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on December 15, 2015, 07:51:31 am
Jack the Ripper is 5-* so she'll make your quartz/wallets rip. Nursery Rhyme is in as a 4-*. A Christmassy Saber Alter is in as a Rider and looks like she'll be the free event servant.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 15, 2015, 09:20:33 am
http://webview.fate-go.jp/webview/news/20151216_867arfe63xebgpkb.html?1450150800

Jack is a 5* Servant. WTF. Are you telling me that she's supposed to be stronger than other assassins like Hassan or Kojirou in lore? Also Nursery Rhime being 4* is also bollocks.

Yeah, I know rarity in this game means how popular the character is more than their strenght. Just let me accept this cruel reality please. At least I finally get Saber Alter, though ffs where do I put yet again another Rider when I already have so many of them... And I would have preferred Iskander as the one appearing, would be fitting for a Santa Claus but oh well...

But I'm really surprised we get a Saberface for free, they really feel generous in this Christmas event. I suppose that's why the rewards aren't so good in this event, to make up for it. Don't see a lot of materials worth farming honestly.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 15, 2015, 09:41:01 am
Santa Alter hahaha okay.
Why is there no stat given for... Rider Santa Alter ? Wow.
Seems similar to Guda event with gold stars, silver bells, mini ribbo- is that ce a Zero Kirei as Santa with loli Rin sitting on his arm
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 15, 2015, 10:47:57 am
According to what people say, there are some black tickets that reset all rewards to get them again. But with only less than two weeks to do this event... yeah, you probably won't use them at all, unless it's really easy to farm (or you waste quartz, which I won't do).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 15, 2015, 11:05:08 am
Saw an image with text desc of Santalter, NP is excalibur holy night, sword of victory shining on the holy night, enemy party-wide damge and ally party-wide medium heal ?? NP charge, didn't even realize it was called that.

Btw I single rolled Scathach yesterday. ... on both my main and Saber Alter account.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 15, 2015, 02:27:25 pm
Congrats, dude. You have the thights now.

And seriously, Santa Alter NP seems really cool, if only she wasn't a Rider... it's basically another version of Guillotine Breaker, minus the debuff healing and possibly doing a bit more damage. I'm going to stick with Marie in this event, sorry Santalter.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 15, 2015, 10:35:46 pm
Tonakaiman (reindeerman)
"Miniskirt Alter ??"
(battle intro quote) "I'll turn you into turkey."
her Buster is a freaking swipe of Vortigern (the super from Unlimited Code), her Art is a sword swing then a bash with the present bag across the face lol
"This letter to Santa I've received comes from Persia, a request from Darius-kun, 3 years old..."
(seeing Phantom and Lu Bu) "Nah, they don't seem to be that Darius kid." (seeing Darius in 3rd ascension, not moving) "and then there's this giant candlelight thing... Oh well, no Darius here."
(to Phantom and Lu Bu) "Hey, brats ! Eat my presents !" (after the fight) *gives Lu Bu and Darius a pair of leylines CE* "it's because you guys tend to die before using your Noble Phantasm" oh holy shit lol.
*to Phantom, the Angel's Poem CE with praying Iri* (Phantom) "Oh, my lost love, my light, it is you, Christine !"
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 15, 2015, 11:25:23 pm
I must've missed a lot, but do we know how to get Santa Alter yet?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 15, 2015, 11:41:46 pm
I haven't gotten one yet but I assume the Golden Ticket colored with the Excalibur Morgan color scheme is a summon ticket to get up to 5 copies of her. Get it by rolling the magic socks, getting all the worthless stuff until you get the one black ticket, and then reset the prizes to have a chance at the next ticket.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 16, 2015, 01:01:38 am
I have to say, the rewards for the first bag without even using a single ticket are really shitty. There's basically nothing there worth getting except perhaps the apples if you get one without spending them. I sure hope the second bag is much much better, because if not I don't see myself even doing this event at all.

I also got the chance to use someone's Nursery Rhyme (at her first ascension also, wow some people are fast), and she seems to have quite some good skills for buffing herself. Tamamo and Waver are still better than her, but yeah, that doesn't say much about her. Still have to try one Jack to see how good she is as an Assassin, seems there's barely people who have gotten her.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2015, 01:03:55 am
The way I understand it is that once you've rolled the ticket, you have the option to immediately reset everything - reset the presents to the original number. This gives you your next shot at getting the next ticket because the ticket is also reset), but all the other presents are there again.
I've already emptied half of the lower level QP presents, half of the lower level FP presents, and a bunch of stones and items (fangs and seeds for Martha and Proto Cu finally), and still no ticket. Well, at least, it should go fast enough to get all the tickets in 9 days, and if I focus only on the fried chicken buckets to ascend Santalter, maybe it'll be enough...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 16, 2015, 01:49:03 am
There's also a locked 5 AP quest, but I have no idea how to unlock it yet.
EDIT: Oh derp, I think it's supposed to be unlocked on a different day or something. I need to go clean my glasses.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2015, 02:12:22 am
Yeah, at the end of the first quest, after responding to the letter from Darius-kun (Persia, 3 years old), Santalter says "the next letter to Santa is for the 17th" which is tomorrow. So one quest a day.
So I've counted, there are 500 items you can get in the present rolls, I've gone through 350 of them, still haven't gotten my first ticket. As usual, fuck you, game.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 16, 2015, 02:27:59 am
Haha ugh, so again, I aimed to get CE's for the event and I only got a typical 10x "premium" roll, thanks DW.
At least I got Cu's Gae Bolg to LV5...

I'm really getting tired of these farming events, there's no variety, other mobages change events here and there (Well, FFRK stopped, but..)

Edit: So apparently this is the tech for this event:
"10AP until 150 (Jeanne CE) or 250 drops (Jeanne + Alter ascension).
Same thing for 20AP. Then farm 40AP all day."
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 16, 2015, 05:18:32 am
Well I got all the ascension items. This event seems more lenient with the farming this time around. I can get more than enough bells in one run then I usually would.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 16, 2015, 09:02:21 am
I've been finally able to try a Jack the Ripper. I did a single Brave combo with her and got more than 30 stars from it. Welp, looks like we have another Servant that likes to shit tons of stars.

And I rolled for the next bag after depleting the first bag, and guess what. No new items! Ugh...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2015, 02:34:08 pm
Yes, again, resetting only resets the number of items available, not the item type.

So Santa Alter loses Arturia Alter's Charisma E and instead gains a pretty damn good single ally heal. That's a great alternative, plus her animations are much better. She loses 1K in ATK when maxed, but she's much easier to ascend if you just buy the Christmas kfc buckets, and she has a much bigger crit attraction rate. That's a big improvement ! Not even mentioning how Saber Alter is much harder to get (story gacha only) while you can just collect the tickets here to increase her NP level.

She's not that big a deal for a Rider though, since she doesn't generate stars that much, but OTOH she should be able to crit like a truck. So with the heal, she's at least better than Martha.

I just realized, Salter, Nobunaga and Caster Liz should make a damn good team as long as you got the ascension items (bonus for maxed NP). All free event Servants.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 16, 2015, 07:51:49 pm
Oh hey, I guess with 20K Friend points, I had some chance to get ROMA and rare as fuck Erik. So yeah, I got all low rank Servants you could get starting the game. Yay! And yeah, Erik is rare, to the point that I got all 3* Servants (including ROMA) before getting him. Why is he so hard to get ffs?

I do have a question though. Can I get Fergus and Diarmuid with the Friend roll, or are they unavailable after the gatcha? If so I will just keep those FP until they are.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2015, 07:56:08 pm
Pretty sure they're in the FP roll. Silver Servants always become available there by default.
I've got like 80 items left in the magic socks bag (no reset yet) and still no ticket. Come the fuck on.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 16, 2015, 08:04:35 pm
Yeah, the bags are absolutely worthless. I don't even recommend you to farm them, farm the materials instead, as you have Snake Jewels and Dragon Scales for exchange, plus Santalter ascension materials.

You see, DW, if you want to be generous for Christmas, then make our life easier and happier just for one time. Giving us a bag with crap items and still annoying material exchange requirements (not as bollocks as the Honnouji event fortunately) is not making our life easier and happier. Where's you Christmas spirit, even though there's still a week for that?

---

So in the new Christmas scene, Astolfo appears. He doesn't fight though. Way to tease your fanbase, TM.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 16, 2015, 09:57:53 pm
At this point I don't even know what to farm for now that I've gotten all of Santa Alter's ascension items, and all of the Jeanne CEs. Maybe I'll just go farm for some Fous.

Kinda wish the socks were traded in for better items now.

On a side note, I finally got Heracles (yeah I rolled Heracles a few days ago during the Scathach campaign.....and another Jeanne too holy shit) to his third ascension and I gave him Limited/Over Zero. Not sure if I have much of a use for Tamamo Cat as of right now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2015, 11:16:19 pm
"Today is a letter from Marie, from France. 'I have these two friends who won't stop fighting. I would like a present for them so they make up.' Hah ! What an idiot, Christmas is to wish for something that makes you happy, not others. What does she think this is about, this girl !"
Hahaha that Santa Alter is such an asshole. Evil Santa Claus indeed.
*Astolfo pops up and threatens Salter* "The hell are you doing here ? We're 2000 meters high in the sky !"
You fight Marie, d'Eon and a chimera, then Santa asks "judging from the pet dog, you must be Marie ?" d'Eon goes "what pet dog ? .... The chimera ? The chimera is a pet dog ?"
Astolfo comes running "sorry I'm late ! Wait, you're already done ? Was I just a cameo ?"
so much troll in these events.
Salter mentions d'Eon disguised as a man, d'Eon "it's not a disguise ! I am clearly a man !", Salter "... Right."
Salter gives a crystal pony CE to Marie, a Maid CE to d'Eon ("are you saying I should change clothes ?" "no, I'm saying you should learn to cook"), Astolfo is waiting for his turn... "alright, reindeer (that's you), let's go back. See you next year, everyone !" "Hey wait, Santa ! What about me ?" "I've got nothing ! You didn't fight, so you get nothing, you loser who didn't save Orléans !" (d'Eon) "yeah, I had such a hard time against Atalante." "That's not my fault ! France chapter is already over ! My turn hasn't come yet !" *gets tossed a Halloween pumpkins CE on the head*
Everyone wonders why a Halloween pumkin, and Marie goes "maybe it's because you're not coming out until next Halloween ?" "ah, no waaayyyy !!"
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 17, 2015, 12:30:05 am
How do they come out with those stories? Do they get together, start getting drunk and the craziest idea shared while drunk is the chosen one? I mean, Santalter is in space with you then Astolfo appears and shoots both of you down from the sky. WTF.

Anyway, technically d'Eon is not wrong since she can change her sex according to what she wants (or what her Master wants, it depends). Of course fanbase seems to go for woman more than man.

Oh, and here's our future quests waiting. No summon ticket at all ugh. I won't be able to roll except for the sunday login gift.

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Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 17, 2015, 12:48:45 am
I mean, Santalter is in space with you then Astolfo appears and shoots both of you down from the sky. WTF.
Not him, he's on his hippogriff and signals for Marie to shoot you. I'm not sure with what, but he's not doing it, you get shot from the ground.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 17, 2015, 01:35:24 am
Oh I see, I thought it was Astolfo doing this, but if it's Marie then it's more ridiculous that she's able to shoot down Santalter from that distance. And then putting a smile like nothing was wrong in that scene. What a sadist!

And that makes me like her more.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 17, 2015, 04:00:12 am
Marie is quite the interesting one indeed!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 17, 2015, 09:24:03 pm
So new quest is up. I understand nothing about it, apart from the fact that Jing Ke is probably completely drunk, and Martha is yet again showing her violent behavior. Though it was really funny that she got that Kirei CE.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 17, 2015, 10:15:50 pm
Wouldn't suprise me that she is completely drunk
When asked what she likes the most she answers someting like "Joy and alcohol"
B-Best girl
Wasted all my shitty quartz only to get a 5 star saberface event CE
DFO taking up most my time so I can't really focus on the event even tho I really really want Jack
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 17, 2015, 10:26:09 pm
In my case, I seem to have a lot of luck. I mean, I'm on my third ticket and I always get them after like 5-6 rolls (of course that doesn't apply to apples). And I just got two copies of the Jeanne's CE. At this rate I will have to buy another 5 slots for CEs.

Edit: Sorry, fourth ticket. 10 seconds after writing this.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 17, 2015, 11:08:44 pm
Martha is pissed because "even though it's that person's birthday, how come lovers just give each other's presents !? Oh, no, it's fine, it's okay, Martha. It's a good thing to show your feelings to your lover." "But he was born in October though, you know !? Why is it celebrated in December ?"
Ushiwakamaru just wants the head of an enemy general for her brother. Or the heart of a devil maybe, that's fine too. By the way she needs eyeballs too. She gouged out all the eyeballs of the Demon God Pillar buuuut...
Santa comes out to ask where Jing Ke is, Martha jumps at you, you swear you didn't see anything (when Martha was rambling furiously), Martha goes okay that's nice we'll go get Jing Ke please sit you must be tired from traveling, I'll make some food.
Yes, Jing Ke is hammered, she wants Martha's turtle soup, Martha starts scolding her. Jing Ke talks about food, wondering how Martha carved the meat since she has no knife or blade.
Ushi talks about how Jing Ke has started drowning her sorrow in alcohol.
When Santa Alter mentions who she is, Ushi reacts to the name Santa Claus and everyone gets menacing. Between this and the French trio who attacked you because another Santa -not you- just came before and caused a lot of shit, apparently there's something going on with another Santa.
Ow wow wow what the shit Jing Ke uses a skill that instantly charges her NP bar in one go and then uses it in the same turn.
After losing, Jing Ke complains she was just nine steps away from winning.
Martha starts saying another Santa was here before, Martha asked him for a new set of German-made knives, but before they knew it, basically they had all bought expensive presents with their own money, and when it wasn't enough, they had all their money confiscated. Since when is Santa that kind of business !
Santa Alter is irritated because Santa is the friend of all children. Ushi notices Santa Alter is wearing black, but the other Santa was someone you'd immediately recognize as Santa. (okay, that's totally Caesar)
Santa Alter gives Ushi a ship CE, saying it's not a real one but if she keeps it she'll find a real one. To Martha , she gives... a topless Kirei Ce "you like that, don't you ?" Martha "*blush* well. ... Wait no, I don't need that, I'm a holy woman, why would I need steel muscles !?"
And for Jing Ke, an Elegant Tokiomi CE for an elegant job as an assassin. Jing Ke laughs and call the guy with the little beard lovely. Oh, be still my heart. That's it, I'm going to assassinate this man ! He looks like he'd love getting nailed from behind !

Eh, that's it. Not much really interesting for this one. But clearly we're set for the boss of the event.
Oh, I rolled my second black ticket and the last Void I needed for Emiya's final ascension. At last.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 18, 2015, 12:25:38 am
Wait, Jing Ke has a skill that causes her NP to fill to full instantly? I killed her in one shot with Robin Hood's Yew Bow, so I totally missed that. What was the name of that skill?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 18, 2015, 12:28:18 am
I don't know, I didn't realize what it was, I think it was some random made-up name (possibly a joke name), definitely neither of the ones she has (planning and preparation). It might be related to how she's drunk during the fight and kind of berserk.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 18, 2015, 12:29:35 am
They could give a similar skill to her so she can fill part of her NP, that would be nice.

Btw, these news:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3x8fbx/a_new_fate_project_2016/

I don't think it's an anime though like they say in reddit, most likely a new drama CD. The first one was basically the Fuyuki scenario, though in that one Cu didn't join the party after winning against Saber Alter, he vanished saying it would be good if you summoned him as Lancer, not Caster. Also it was boring. I would rather prefer some funny dialogues between Servants rather than doing Orleans if they do a new drama CD.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 18, 2015, 12:53:00 am
Iiinteresting....

Also....

(http://i.imgur.com/ZPDYufj.jpg)
Jack the Ripper's crit star gain is hilarious and crazy (One quick chain generated like 56 stars, it was insane.)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 18, 2015, 02:27:28 pm
Just a note, Jing Ke skill that fills her NP instantly is "Drunken Power". Yeah, a joke skill. Too bad, an Assassin with an instant kill NP able to raise its NP bar with a skill would have been nice (and yeah, I'm not counting Stheno's NP because it sucks). They obviously won't add that one to her.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 18, 2015, 02:37:00 pm
Hah, thought so. It's nice that they do story-only stuff like that.

Jack the Critter making 100% crit for everyone next round is fun, but kind of insane. Maybe they're going a bit too far with those adjustments, or maybe it's to let you use weak characters and still get decent damage... but now if you put a Sir Critsalot with Antumbra and fairy star attraction, that's just cheap.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 18, 2015, 02:45:05 pm
It's the power creep phenomenon what we're currently experiencing. Honestly, she really needs to have a lower star gen. It's just retarded to generate so many stars in one single combo. I thought Drake was broken, but Jack is on another level. It makes old Servants worthless because heck, 100% crits in all cards is impossible to surpass (tons of damage plus high increase of NP generation).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 18, 2015, 03:04:58 pm
I haven't had many opportunities to really use her, does she have drawbacks ?
I'm looking up her stats now... Okay, high stats, avoid+quick up, enemy buff dispel, acceptable ally heal, good NP damage that become nuts against females, that's just broken. She's easily Gilgamesh tier, she barely has 1K less HP than half of the other 5*.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 18, 2015, 09:38:35 pm
Lmao did Santa Alter just seriously give Black Keys to Emiya, Robin Hood, and David?
Is she trolling? I seriously want to know.

Also Elizabeth appears for some reason.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 18, 2015, 10:52:09 pm
Emiya and Robin on the ship, Emiya says the keel won't hold in the storm. Robin says it's not his fault, it's their first time going fishing for both of them. In the first place, Robin's a hunter in the forest, he doesn't know about the sea. Emiya says a certain idiot wanted to see a pretty girl from a southern country. David !
.... David tells the two of them to jump into the sea, because he's holding the whole ship with his own mana, and it's too heavy with both of them there, but it might hold if it's just him ? Hah, another asshole. Emiya complains "those ancient kings, they're all the same, I can think of one other self-conceited spirit like that".
Robin says they'll be the laughing stocks of the Servant world if they kick the bucket like that.
David starts rambling about who's the best comedian, and, I'm not sure, he starts telling a joke story about Carneades (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carneades) ? (and all the way through, he looks pretty serious) (I'm not sure I get it) But it's getting long winded and Robin suggests he and Emiya kick his ass, putting their own disagreement aside for a moment. Emiya says, okay, let's see who's the best Archer right now. David says he's the undefeated king who went through many wars, Robin says he's good at killing kings so that's perfect.
Santa Alter barges in, laughing at the 3* Servants who call themselves the best Archer. She calls herself the strongest Santa who descends through the blizzard of Christmas (she left the sled and the reindeer -still you- up over the black clouds because she has to think of the safety of your contract). She calls out Emiya, David asks if they know each other - yeah they do.
David mistakes Santa Alter for... *Google* Abishag (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abishag), uh, okay. He thinks he's so lucky to meet her again as Servants, and he asks her to warm his cold body (I needed to check the Wikipedia page to understand why). Santa Alter corrects him, he says "oh ? You're so pretty, I thought you had to be Abishag. (t/n : why) Ah, maybe you can't recognize me because I'm young again."

... Okay, need a minute, between the topless Kirei and Martha baiting for a sex joke as a holy maiden and switching for the steel training, Jing Ke wanting to nail Tokiomi from behind, and this. What is up with the massive sexual undertone.
David is almost jumping at Santa Alter practically saying now they can fuck all day long because he's all young and fired up again, they couldn't do it back when he was old. Oh, and Santa Alter is all NOPE and turning it into banter to fight. David catches the bait, Emiya says that fool, he grabbed the tiger's tail. Of course David says wait, I'm not that strong, and he calls Emiya and Robin to help him. Robin says he just wanted to ride the sleigh through the sky - but it's okay because Archers totally beat up Sabers.
So you beat the shit out of them, then Robin realizes Santa Alter is a Rider.
Emiya asks why she came here, she says it's for a letter, Emiya says of course, even after growing up into an adult, only such a big fool would keep sending letters to Santa. David says yup, totally agree. Emiya goes "... wait, that wasn't you ?" having totally failed his insult. ..... David says Santa Claus is scary, dropping stuff when you're not looking. What. Also Robin is looking away with shifty eyes .... okay fine, that was me, I got caught in the moment, happy now ?
Santa Alter tosses a bunch of Black Keys as presents (David thinks they're cool). I assume because they're just bad, they have such low stats.
Emiya mentions the storm having passed in the mean time, and mentions Carneades. David reacts, who said that name ? I gotta put whoever brought him up to death ! Emiya and Robin both jump at David saying he's the one who talked about Carneades. Robin says they should send David back to Okeanos. David ends up by pointing out they made a pretty good team even though they lost, with an anti-army NP, an anti-unit special status NP etc. they all agree that they're not all that good, but together they're pretty damn good.

... And then Elizabeth (a Lancer) drops by. For a special Christmas live. They're at sea, so her client said she can sing extra loud as much as she can, nobody's getting out tonight ! Let's start with the opening number, Love is Dracul ( / a dragon) ! Robin "... okay, we're fucked." Scene end.
Santa Alter, watching from the stratosphere, says the delivery live from Hell has started. Foolish Archers, dropping like flies ! Hey, they wanted to know who's the best comedian in the Servant world, after all.

Oh shit, next Santa letter is from Gilgamesh.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 18, 2015, 11:28:07 pm
So many tsukkomis in this episode. Robin and Emiya were not enough to handle David.

Btw guys, should I attempt going YOLO rolling, or just hold my stuff? I mean, I have 34 quartz, but no way I reach 40 before the event ends.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 18, 2015, 11:39:47 pm
Quote
David is almost jumping at Santa Alter practically saying now they can fuck all day long because he's all young and fired up again
yep, that's the king david I know and respect
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 19, 2015, 12:18:06 am
...My first YOLO roll gives me Nursery Rhyme. Is this a message, game?

Edit: ...So I just go all the event CEs alongside Nursery Rhyme. Welp, that sure was a good roll. Also Robin Hood for more NP too, and the boar CE. The rest were two Shinji CEs, but yeah, damn lucky I was.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 19, 2015, 01:25:14 am
It might be just me, but is it odd that whenever Mary/Anne uses her NP, she always targets Jeanne?
Is this a bug or is her AI programmed to do that?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 19, 2015, 01:31:07 am
Pure chance. Only Servants that have a pattern of attacking a certain Servant are Lancelot, Caligula and Caster Gilles for Saberfaces, Boudicca for anything Roman (she keeps killing my Caesar all the time ffs) and I think that's it, though not sure. But I'm certain Mary/Anne does not target a specific Servant.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 19, 2015, 03:58:59 am
I think Lancelot attacks Saber faces too.

Anyways, I guess I'm the only one who doesn't have a single 5* servant so far? Man, screw DW, I have pretty terrible luck with the gacha, no event CE's either other than the ones we get through the event/can buy.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 19, 2015, 08:43:09 pm
Nah man,I don't have a 5* either,but I do have a couple of 4* tho,which gives me a small degree of hope
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 19, 2015, 09:15:34 pm
In today's episode, Santa Alter gives presents to the children!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 19, 2015, 09:58:03 pm
Nah man,I don't have a 5* either,but I do have a couple of 4* tho,which gives me a small degree of hope
Yeah, I mean, the event servants, and I have a handful as well (Lancelot, Herakles, Carmilla, St.Martha, Marie Antoniette, Tamamo Cat, Saber Lily) but everyone I know has at least one 5*.
Maybe next year, I'll be luckier. or DW will make adjustments to the gacha since apparently is the mobage with the harshest draw rates.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 19, 2015, 10:05:08 pm
In today's episode, Santa Alter gives presents to the children!

Friendly Anon said:
1. Gilgamesh reveals his masterfully crafted plan for when Santa Alter arrives. His wish of a present was to be Santa Alter herself, repeat of the same joke from carnival phantasm
2. And Santa Alter ignores his Santa letter and never actually arrives.
3. They get pulled down to a snow field where Alice and Jack waits for them. Despite being "not real" they really wanted presents this year.
4. Alter denies them as they never sent any letters to Santa. But instead gives them a chance by FIGHTING FOR IT.
5. Obviously they lose but Alter pulls an act and goes "ARGH I GOT BEATEN..."
6. Alter then does some magic shit and pulls out presents and a christmas tree. While also giving them Christmas theme'd CE's.
7. Jack and Nursery also reveals that earlier, another fake Santa approached them, denying them presents because they weren't real (one is a curse, another is a book) and told them to wait for the real Santa. They also quote the Santa, lines such as "yare yare" (Ceasar says this).
8. Alter Santa decides to confront the other Santa for a final showdown.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 19, 2015, 10:06:50 pm
I wish they do improve the gatcha, the FP roll is basically worthless the moment you get all 1-2* Servants (apart from having really shitty rewards and rates), and the normal gatcha is really unforgiving with the Servant and CE rates, with no other chance to draw rares other than to do a 40 quartz roll, and that still is up to luck as it can be either a CE or Servant, and can go from 4* to 5*.

And yeah, we could see Caesar being the fake Santa from miles away, even without looking at the datamined info I posted. That 'yare yare' wasn't really needed to give us a clue.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 19, 2015, 10:49:53 pm
So Gil wants to take advantage of the Christmas system and have Saber confess her love to him. He'll tell the black Santa "my present is you !"
Outside, Santa Alter says "let's go back, he's not home." (basically she NOPES out of it and you have two options to respond : "you're right" and "you're right")
then she wants to go have some fun in town while they're here. They reach a strange space and get taken down - that's Nursery Rhyme's space, with Jack. Santa asks if they're ghosts, Jack says probably not / not really, but they're not human either, they don't really know themselves, they don't even have names.  Santa feels sorry for them as they never knew love. Apparently, Jack says Alice (yeah, apparently she calls her like that) still remembers something about a hospital, and NR says Jack is all about dark sewers. You tell Santa to give them presents, but she can't, they didn't write her a letter... But saying it out loud should work. She wants them to speak out what they want. NR wants to play like everyone, and have nice dreams. Okay, let's have a fun party ! *fight starts*
You win, the girls say "we lost... so there really isn't a Christmas for us..." Santa Alter goes  "....... ooooh noooo, you got meeeeee ! Nicely done girls, as promised, your presents !" Next scene is a whole village full of lights, and, apparently, many presents for the girls. Then Santa Alter tells you "of course ! I'm a friend to all children." Jack says there should be plenty children waiting for their presents, but Santa Alter says she only has one job left. Then she gives them the 3 event CEs. The girls like the one with the huge reindeer (Asterios). Jack says she's fulfilled Alice's wish. NR says the party was scary, but fun. And the false Santa was right to tell them to wait for Santa. Santa Alter goes wait what ? NR says there was another Santa before her, but he kept saying "yare yare, that's no good... (yes, just like Caesar) I'm not the real one, so I can't grant your wishes, but the real one will definitely come. Be nice and wait here. If that doesn't work, I'll do something next year." Santa Alter leaves and prepares for the final battle against that fake Santa.

.... Did... Did Gilgamesh just get screwed over ?

-------

Okay, I have 3 black tickets so all in all it's going well, but still -- in this current Christmas line-up, I've got 15 items left that I haven't rolled yet out of 500.
One of them is the 4th ticket.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Delight Works please. Stop being such a cunt with rolls.
(edit : there, got it of course, but come on)
Incidentally, this puts in perspective the humongous number of 4* EXP cards you need to level up many Servants. I've gotten over 150 of them and I still haven't maxed anyone beside Lancelot (although I am bringing up a fair number of gold Servants, but I've barely brought Scathach past 50 and Caster Liz and Altera are still sitting below 50, Nobu hasn't moved from 65 and Orion is barely at 25) Not even Robin, David, FSN Cu are maxed.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 20, 2015, 01:34:51 am
To be honest, the tickets are kinda meaningless.
You get so many socks that the optimal way to use this is to just empty the gacha and reset, I mean the QP doesn't hurt given the cost of high level stuff, apples are always welcome...FP... well, it's just there but maybe we'll have a use for it eventually.
EXP is very very welcome and it won't clutter your inventory, you can just hoard it in the gift box.
I already resetted (Empited) the gacha enough times to get the Crystallized Lore and aaaaall this hoarded EXP will be for Salterr.

I've only maxed out Lancelot, Carmilla, St.Martha and the event servants (Cu as well but he's a silver servant) I might work on Marie Antoniette, Herakles or Tamamo Cat, we'll see..
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 20, 2015, 01:45:27 am
EXP is very very welcome and it won't clutter your inventory, you can just hoard it in the gift box.
The gift box is limited to 200 and then it starts deleting older gifts that you didn't pick up, so plan this well :P
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 20, 2015, 02:01:38 am
Right. Thankfully I'm nowhere near 200.
Let's see.... just 77, and only because I used the EXP from the first two bags to max out Nobu, Cu and St.Martha. Anyways all that EXP will be gone once Salter joins my party.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 20, 2015, 09:09:34 pm
You encounter a wild fake Santa Faber with 104K health, what do you do?
> Attack                    > Item
> Switch                    > Run Away
You choose Attack, Robin Hood uses Yew Bow. 150K damage! It's super effective!
Faber goes down, you still have two more soldiers at 100K health but who cares. *epic Poke-ehem-Fate music after winning a battle here*

Yeah, I was bored. Anyway, as everybody guessed (if you call noticing the obvious guessing), Faber is the culprit!

Now seriously, I highly suggest you to grab a strong Archer like Robin Hood. The fight is long if you can't nuke the soldiers. They're all level 8 so they can't kill you, I assure you (except Faber's NP of course). They even decrease their own defense to increase their attack to make it even easier.

-----

Final boss, Alter vs Alter. After beating it, you'll be able to get Santa Alter from the shop. The 50 AP quest is also available, and it's the easiest I've ever done in events IMO. Sporting an Attila with only 50K health (boom Yew Bow) in the first fight plus mobs, Carmilla in the second (boom Nursery Rhyme) plus mobs, and a third fight with Waver, Gilgamesh and Scathach. This third fight is obviously harder, but my Scathach quickly Gae Bolg Gilgamesh, and Caesar's NP absolutely destroyed Scathach. From this point, it was easy to beat Waver.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 21, 2015, 11:06:30 pm
Okay, so I had almost 200 EXP cards hoarded in the gift chest, let's see how much I can level her up...

From Lv1 to... wow, 67? I thought I was going to max her our for sure... well, thank god there's still some days left of sock gathering, maybe I can max her out before the event ends.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 22, 2015, 02:23:02 pm
You have until 25th December at 6:00 PM to get as many things as you need. So good luck.

Btw, there will be a maintenance tomorrow, to fix some minor bugs. Two apology gems. Maybe you'll get a chance to 40 quartz roll. Unfortunately, even with those gems I would have never been able to do such roll before the event ended.

-----

Oh hey, Christmas present in the form of 10 quartz! How generous! I mean, they could have gotten us 40 quartz for a 10-roll, or even a 4* Servant of our choice that isn't an event Servant!

Yeah, I'll stop being sarcastic here. Oh well, at least it's something. I still need to get my 20-quartz for daily login, so with it I should be ready for London.

----

Well, Christmas event is over. Notable things I got there was Nursery Rhyme, all event CEs, ROMA, fuck rare Erik finally at NP 5 and Lancer Cu at NP 5. I have spent 60K FP just to get Fergus and Diarmuid (unsuccesfully unfortunately), and I will keep the remaining 60K FP for London.

So, speaking of London, we know that Jack the Ripper, Tamamo, Nursery Rhyme will be appearing in it. Any speculations about who will appear there, apart from those? I say Sherlock Holmes (which has been confirmed from datamine), but I'm really curious as to how he will be displayed as. Please TM, don't gender bend him. Please don't do that.

Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 26, 2015, 11:41:43 am
As this is important news, I'll do it in a new post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3y9vgn/london_announcement_and_mordred/

Basically, info about London here. We get Mordrer (5*), Frankenstein (4* WTF same as Herc and Lancelot...), Jekyll & Hide (3*, and most likely the one you'll get in the end), Hoenheim (3*) and Babbage (3*). Plus three more costumes for Masters (aka finally new spells), that have:

1st costume: Heal to all Servants, NP charge to single target and Shuffle for cards.
2nd costume: Invincibility to 1 target for 1 turn. Remove debuff. 2 turn skill charge.
3rd costume: Power up to all party for 1 turn. Stun an enemy. Change party member with a sub.

Nice spells. I specially like the third one. There's still a chance Sherlock Holmes is in this event, but it's secret like Medea Lily.

Oh, and London becomes available at 28th December.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 26, 2015, 12:08:08 pm
I don't honestly know how to feel about those spells, they're super situational and I feel like the basic set has the best set of spells (Not to mention that we all already maxed it out)

I'm ready to not get a 5* as per usual (Even though statistically I should have at least two)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 26, 2015, 01:17:50 pm
http://typemoon.com/news/2015/jkttyk
Heh, the costumes look nice.
Didn't expect Paracelsus to be just a 3*.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 26, 2015, 01:33:54 pm
Also, apparently Jekyll is a 3* Assassin but also a 4* Berserker?
That sounds pretty interesting.

As for the suits.. I'll probably pick a cool looking one just to change things around I guess.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 26, 2015, 01:37:30 pm
Also, apparently Jekyll is a 3* Assassin but also a 4* Berserker?
Uh ? What's that from ?

..... Why are the Hogwarts rejects winking
Oh, and the Evangelion rejects aren't smiling. Okay, guess they all have something unique.

Eh, it does feel like each uniform has a different purpose. If your team is based on skills and status effects, Atlas is good for you ; if you're full attack, chaldea Battle Suit is good ; and Mage Association seems pretty all-purpose.
Shit, the Zouken CE is a serious grudge (the enemy that kills you has their NP sealed for 2t and a 1k curse for 10t).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 26, 2015, 01:51:08 pm
It's his Noble Phantasm. When he uses it, he turns into a 4* Berserker with new skills and his HP recovered. A really cool NP IMO.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 26, 2015, 01:54:24 pm
No, where does the 4* Berserker bit come from. All I'm reading is personality change, HP max regen, and Buster up (not new skills), with no detail on what that personality thing is.

Uh, apparently the news page was updated, fixing the description for Paracelsus' NP (I'm not sure what t said before) as well as the Zouken CE (it now deals 2K damage for 10 turns, and I'm not sure it's "the enemy that kills you" so much as "to all enemies, whenever you die" which would make Arash very attractive, it's crazy strong)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 27, 2015, 09:40:39 pm
Here's a reddit post with the full info of everything we will get in this event.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3ydsxh/new_maintenance_update_tomorrow_28_dec_5_quartz/

We get 5 quartz as apology, so that's at least 5 hours of maintenance.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 28, 2015, 01:09:17 pm
Used all my quartz (70 or so)
No Mordred... not even Franken, all I got was Paracelsus.
Thanks DW.

ALSO
(http://i.imgur.com/vHM7dMM.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 28, 2015, 02:01:29 pm
Yup, he' evil.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 28, 2015, 04:10:19 pm
Jesus Fuck Solomon looks cool
I'm gonna lay off rolling until I finish London and unlock Tesla
Also why the fuck is the new lancer the only character in the game to actually ride something while all  riders are on foot most of the time
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 28, 2015, 07:05:57 pm
I just did the boss battle against Solomon and OMFG it's epic (that's why shit bronze apples were good for, managed to cover all London with only wasting two silver and gold apples). With a new battle theme. It's still a beast fight, so yeah, don't bring any knights there, but my god the goddamn debuffs and damage his attacks did. If my Drake hadn't managed to crit the boss on time...

And yeah, as expected, you get Jekyll/Hyde as Servant, but in this case I'm not even sure how he joins you like the other Servants did in past events.

Oh, and there's two secret Servants, Nicola Tesla and as much as I didn't want to accept it Arturia Alter Lancer. Well, at least her sprite in battle is really cool while riding her horse.

----

Welp, there goes my 40 quartz roll.

(http://i.imgur.com/f1s3wFd.jpg)

At least I got one new Servant, I prefer him over Babbage honestly. Not sure if to call this a good or bad roll though, with all those CE (and my ticket from Sunday got me the Heaven Dress 5* CE). God, I will have to waste yet another quartz to expand my CE inventory. If only I got a Kaleidoscope it would make me happier.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 29, 2015, 11:15:20 pm
Uh. So while you fight Solomon, Andersen says that among the records he salvaged from the devastated Mage Association, there was something talking about the Heroic Spirit summoning system being something made by the Counter Force itself. And originally, it was meant to create seven vessels that were designed to take down one particular enemy. Then there's the bit about Solomon being Grand Caster i.e. the one Heroic Spirit chosen to be one of those seven, and the rest of the Servant Classes being derived from that Counter Force system.
... That's totally the description we got all the way back about Primate Murder requiring seven Counter Guardians to be kept in check. Since, you know, Primate Murder is Gaia's weapon against humanity, and the Counter Force is pretty much creating a weapon of its own in response to that, to hold back Gaia's weapon and protect humanity.

Hah
(discussion about Andersen figuring out just how far above everyone else Solomon is)
(Kintoki, Shakespeare, Tamamo, Andersen are wiped out in a single hit)
Solomon "okay, I'm leaving now"
Mordred "Heee ? You're just leaving ? Then what the fuck did you even come her for ?"
Solomon "Meh, just because ? See, i'm just here reading one book and then moving on to the next, and taking a walk in between the two. That's all I'm doing right here."
Mordred" Wha... So you just came here to piss all over us ??" (sic, not kidding, Japanese language doesn't use imaged speech like "taking the piss out of us" at all, and yet here she is saying he's literally spraying piss all over them)
Solomon "....... Yep. Hahahaha yeah that's about it, that's exactly what I'm doing, it really doesn't change anything to me if you live or die, it's not like I'm letting you go, I never even saw you in the first place."

... Oh. I rolled Mordred.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 30, 2015, 12:09:39 am
so, there should be 6 other servants the same level as solomon?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 30, 2015, 12:17:23 am
Well, there are 6 more vessels in waiting, yes. I haven't noticed any comment about the other spots. But the datamine had a Grand Saber voiced by Ayako Kawasumi, who voices Arturia, so take a wild guess. As for Grand Archer, I can't see who it could be if not Gilgamesh and Arjuna.
Oh, Solomon is called King of Magecraft the same way Gil, Arturia and Iskandar are Kings of something. If Grand Saber is in fact Arturia, maybe you can make one more guess.
... And the big ring in the sky above all the singularities that Mashu and Gudao (your character) notice every time you step in a new map, that's not a ring, it's a whole bunch of energy beams high up in the sky (forming a ring) comparable to Excalibur that tear a hole in space-time, and it's caused by the Ars Almadel Solomonis, one of the five books in the Lesser Key of Solomon, and Solomon's third Noble Phantasm. And the Garden of Avalon stuff mentioned that potentially, if Arturia was backed up by the Counter Force, Excalibur (being the light of the planet) could become a weapon capable of blasting a planet or something. ... So yeah, guess where this is going.

Last random thing, when meeting Arturia Alter Lancer with Rhongomyniad, Mordred is convinced that Arturia's hatred for Mordred is what gave birth to this form in the Throne of Heroes, all because Rhon is what Arturia used to kill Mordred. She may or may not be wrong.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 30, 2015, 01:15:27 am
I have a question regarding Tamamo Cat's interlude in London.

Does it require me to have final ascension + max bond (which I did already), or does it require me to complete London first?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 30, 2015, 01:17:17 am
All quests always require to finish the map they're on first. Mine says I need ascension lv 2, which I don't have. Dunno about bond, but if you maxed it, you should be fine as soon as you finish London.
... Woah, Jekyll's quest on the same spot requires his third ascension already, and it's an NP upgrade.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 30, 2015, 01:33:03 am
All quests always require to finish the map they're on first. Mine says I need ascension lv 2, which I don't have. Dunno about bond, but if you maxed it, you should be fine as soon as you finish London.
... Woah, Jekyll's quest on the same spot requires his third ascension already, and it's an NP upgrade.

Thanks, now to continue messing around in London.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 30, 2015, 01:56:56 am

yah, so alexander, gill, arturia and solomon are possible vesels, with solomon already confirmed, saber very likely to be so; gilgamesh also sounds like a good pick, so the only classes left out are berserker, assassin and lancer (for which, teh vessels, should be king of "something").
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 30, 2015, 02:11:43 am
... Oh. I rolled Mordred.
(http://i.imgur.com/10FcVRt.png)
My account must have E rank luck.

I still haven't finished London, but Tesla almost wipes out my team. Now I want him but alas he's a 5* so...
All these new interludes make me feel like ascending some servants past their first ascension. I might do that eventually but I'm afraid of running out of materials for for important ones (I'm dangerously low on hearts and talons)
..at least farming gears and pages is easier now...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 30, 2015, 02:19:25 am
We can also consider that we're talking about people with the ability to blow up the world to narrow it down, plus obviously they should be all 5* : Ars Almadel, planet-powered Excalibur, Ea, aaaaand... Iskandar is the odd one there on the world-destroying bit - but Ozymandias is the King of Kings, and Fragments totally ultra-wanked him into hyperdrive to the Sun and back, and that was after losing his Master, so he's probably a better fit for the Grand Rider slot. For the rest, among the datamined people, we're expecting... Nezha, Karna, maybe Demon Lord Medusa, possibly Shuten Douji depending on how they go with him (he's one of the Three Great Evil Youkais, on par with Tamamo-no-Mae, who is in Nasuverse depicted as an aspect of Amaterasu's power, so who knows - plus it took Raikou and his Four Kings, including Kintoki, to take him out, sooooo yeah, I'm voting for him as Grand Berserker). I dunno about an Assassin with the ability to blow up the world...
Oh, now I wonder how this will interact with the Sakura Five from CCC who were also in the datamine (Meltlilith, Kingprotea etc.) because now this all seems rather fitting.
Also last thing about that, the discussion with Solomon also clearly implies that the Grand classes are way beyond the classes from the Grail War, everyone we've seen that should be stronger is actually super nerfed (Arturia, Gilgamesh, Ozy), like, I'm sure there's no way Solomon would look like that or have that freaking Ars Almadel if he was summoned in a Grail Wat. Here he says there's no Master above him, and he... summoned himself, like, he died, but then he decided to summon himself out of the Throne because that's how fucking insane he is. He's also disappointed that humanity hasn't been able to overcome death yet, by the way - it might be interesting to introduce him to certain Dead Apostles.

I still haven't finished London, but Tesla almost wipes out my team. Now I want him but alas he's a 5* so...
I've got a Scathach lv90 with the 2030 CE in my friend list, plus my own Scathach (she's just lv68, so I'm not putting her in front right now, and the best CE I've got for her is Antumbra - lv80 Lancelot with lv40 Kaleido is still better IMO, his Buster in third position can deal over 16k), that goes pretty easily. Otherwise, the Lancer Cu twins should be enough if you have both at a good level. Between Tesla, Arturia Alter Lancer, and Solomon (Beast class), the class advantage has been more than enough to get a win without even losing anyone. Just put your strongest Servants of the proper class, and find one appropriate Support (Oz's lv90 Drake, a Scathach), even if not from your friend list, the NP isn't absolutely necessary. Hell, I plowed through the Demon God Pillar quatuor in 3 turns with Caster Cu, Lancelot, Drake : after one turn of dodging the team-wide fog, everyone had a full NP charge, then on turn 3, between the stars from Knight of Honor and Drake's skills, I whiped a Buster Brave from Lancelot with 100% crit everywhere, that was the easiest boss fight I've had.

For Mordred, To be fair I did break out the wallet for 140 quartz after Christmas. But yeah, I got Mordred only on my second 10-roll. I'm saving the rest with the quartz I got in London and the new quests that opened. It's been a while.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 30, 2015, 02:40:47 am
I brought LV80 Lancelot with Kaleido, LV80 Salter, a LV90 Scathach support, LV70 Cu and I forgot the rest due to cost restriction but they were all decently leveld, even Cu got wiped out but I won thanks to the support.
I think I really miss  the old master heal and evade, that's make a HUGE difference when it comes to avoiding incoming NPs and whatnot. I'll most likely level up all the suits and just go back to the original one.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 30, 2015, 02:41:57 am
Oh right, yeah. You need to forget about the new Mystic Code wears for those boss battles, they're shit :P
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 30, 2015, 05:11:17 am

thanks, made me google those characters, which is one of the fun things about fate.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on December 30, 2015, 08:14:33 am
Sooooooo...
New year event: SURPRISE, IT'S KARNA

(http://view.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/summon_20151230_biydn.jpg)
http://view.fate-go.jp/2015/7yrhut/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 30, 2015, 09:16:00 am
I have a question regarding Tamamo Cat's interlude in London.

Does it require me to have final ascension + max bond (which I did already), or does it require me to complete London first?

Don't know about bond, but she needs to be at second ascension for sure.

Btw,

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3yrelv/2016_new_years_campaign/

Karna and Arjuna finally available. But honestly... I would rather stick with the London roll. I want to get at least Frankenstein since she works similar to Lancelot. And maybe I get Tesla too, which I find him really cool to use. And I'm being realistic at not rolling the others in the new year gatcha since... well, they're all 5*, aka 1% to get them. With only a 10-roll and 3 single roll, I would rather be realistic here.

And about the new Mystic Codes from the clothes, so far the only one I liked and I have equipped is the new Chaldea clothes, that grant a full party boost attack (perfect for NP combo), a really good stun and party switch. The last one has saved me a lot of times since it has allowed me to deplete the boss NP with someone's Vampirism or stun the boss for another turn. The others are mediocre honestly. Though I admit, I do miss the heal and dodge, they were really reliable.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 30, 2015, 01:30:50 pm
http://view.fate-go.jp/2015/7yrhut/
Oh god those assholes, everyone has pickup rate up on a different day
January 1 is Gilgamesh, 2 is Kintoki, 3 is Karna, then Arjuna, Scathach, then Karna and Arjuna, then all 5 of them. Looks like DW wants to get a lot of money.
Oh, Arjuna's NP is Pashupatastra.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 30, 2015, 04:55:24 pm
that image makes me think that scathach is an asshole, you know, because of the people she is hanging out with.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on December 30, 2015, 07:52:23 pm
Oh, Arjuna's NP is Pashupatastra.
This is gonna be Arashs NP all over again except everyone will fucking die instead
Sooooooo...
New year event: SURPRISE, IT'S KARNA

(http://view.fate-go.jp/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/summon_20151230_biydn.jpg)
http://view.fate-go.jp/2015/7yrhut/
These are all 5 stars,right?
Fuck
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 30, 2015, 08:05:46 pm
Apparently we also get a guaranteed 5* Servant in another gatcha. One time only, you do a 40 quartz roll and you get a random one from the ones you can see in the gatcha. It doesn't include the Servants in this future gatcha event. Datamined info btw.

The catch? It only works for quartz that you have bought, not free quartz.

Yeah fuck you DW. We can easily see your greed here. Make it less obvious please. Sticking with London gatcha all the way!

Second row, second column for proof.

(http://i.imgur.com/LnPoTtE.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on December 31, 2015, 04:41:04 pm
So, Arjuna. I used his quick attack. This happened

(http://i.imgur.com/PagH7gE.jpg)

GG.

EDIT: That's nice, I get an error whenever I try to use a summon ticket.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 31, 2015, 04:47:21 pm
Wow, the new year even has a couple of event quests with lv70 Arjuna for support in the Chaldea gate that gives you a summon ticket. I think the new year event was supposed to give you three tickets, so maybe there's more coming (Karna). ... Man, new Servants love to summon you out of Chaldea to be their Master for events. Chaldea seriously needs to rethink their security.
Well, Arjuna seems just as surprised as you to find himself here, and he's surprised that you can be sleeping like a lazy ass on the ship's bridge in the middle of a fucking thunderstorm... And he can't remember his name, okay.
Arjuna "... but I can tell you that I'm an Archer, I know that much."
Mashu "hum, yeah, about that, you probably shouldn't rely on your weapon to know which class you are. We've got an Archer using twin swords, an Archer that smacks you with a cane, an Archer who tosses stuff from his treasury at you... I don't think you should assume to be an Archer just because you're carrying a bow."

the fuck is that skill NP gauge instant increase + HP regen for 5 turns + star bonus for 5 turns - "Hero who receives gifts" okay...
And shadow Karna comes and lays the verbal smackdown with truth on Arjuna. Arjuna says he doesn't like to fight, but he remembers he was a warrior, and he was super strong, and he never feared death, even got tired of life -- "yo, sorry to crash your party, but actually, it's not that you don't fear death, it's that you're too stupid to even see it. you've been at peace and got spoon-fed everything you had, you never felt the weight of your own existence. Oh well, even if I tell you what reality is like, you won't understand it."

Oh shit, Karna's Extra attack ends with him firing his eyebeam, which should be Brahmastra, considering it's his NP skill ? in Fate/Extra CCC.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on December 31, 2015, 05:20:03 pm
I GOT MORDRED! FFS FINALLY!!!!!! A 5* GOLD SABER!!!

See guys, the London gatcha is perfectly viable. Stick with it.

And as expected, the 5* guaranteed gatcha requires paid quartz. Good job dividing F2P and people who spend money in the game here, DW.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on December 31, 2015, 07:03:40 pm
Yeah, and it has to be 40 paid quartz, not just some. No free 5* for my alt account, and fuck all casuals forever. Real nice. I don't even know if I'll roll something in it. I would only care for Okita, then maybe Mordred or Jack, but I'll probably get Vlad or Zhuge. I'll probably save the tickets for Arjuna (he's got that crazy skill, I'm not too sure about Karna) or the last day with event-only 5*.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 01, 2016, 12:23:42 am
Yeah, DW is giving free players a huge middle finger by having a premium premium currency since before there was no way to know that it was a thing, other than dataminers, combine that with the abysmal rate for 5* servants and... there you go, that's their business plan (I  mean, sure, it's a business but other mobages are less scummy about it)

Anyways, the shop has restocked, you can get some neat mana prisms and packs, and a retardedly expensive set of Mona Lisa CEs.... personally I'm not going to get her for now, I'll be buying Fous to max out Mashu because she's pretty decent after reaching LV50, also no cost.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 01, 2016, 01:29:50 am
Just took a look at the prism shop. What the hell, is that a fucking joke ? How the hell is anyone even supposed to get that many prisms, what are they expecting people to do ? Roll the 200k FP and burn everything that's 3* ? I don't even know what that CE does.
Keeping the tickets though.
Yeah, got the first bag. But now I have to decide who else I'll give those Fous to (I maxed Lancelot some time back and haven't touched Fous much).
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Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 01, 2016, 01:30:57 am
That Mona Lisa CE is one of the most retarded things DW has pulled off, apart from now dividing free from premium players. 1000 Mana Prisms WTF. If I had that many, I would rather waste them on Fous instead of getting a worthless CE that only increase QP gain by 2%. Taking into account that QP is not something scarce (heck, last event made me had 100M ffs), yeah, that's a CE I'm glad I will never need. But hey, at least you get a free 5* CE that gives how many stars? ...Oh, 1 star per turn. How generous. Specially when there's another 5* CE that grants you a total of 8 stars. I have a feeling they're starting to overdo it with their tactics of getting money plus giving crappy free things honestly.

And yeah, that new skill that Mashu has now makes her an awesome tank and support. Before it was changed she had the Battle Continuation skill, which is a terrible skill for her to have. That's a change I wish some Servants had.

Get also the first bag, DKDC, as it contains tickets too. Two or three I believe. It's the cheaper now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 01, 2016, 01:49:42 am
That Mona Lisa CE is one of the most retarded things DW has pulled off, apart from now dividing free from premium players. 1000 Mana Prisms WTF. If I had that many, I would rather waste them on Fous instead
Yeah, after some math, from that cost you can instead max out about six servant's both HP and ATK stats with Fous.


But hey, at least you get a free 5* CE that gives how many stars? ...Oh, 1 star per turn. How generous. Specially when there's another 5* CE that grants you a total of 8 stars. I have a feeling they're starting to overdo it with their tactics of getting money plus giving crappy free things honestly.
Well, to be fair, that free CE is maxed out to LV80 and it goves you an extra 2016 HP, and it only costs 3 points, so... Mashu greatly benefits from this, especially when it comes to maintaining a low cost and being tanky.

Edit:
SPEAKING OF WHICH
(http://i.imgur.com/LqMUNB3.jpg)
No regrets.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 01, 2016, 06:26:17 pm
I sure hope you use her often after doing this. That's a lot of materials and Fous you've wasted here.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 01, 2016, 09:22:02 pm
Seeing how her third skill makes any NP directed at the party a single hit attack directed to her + invincibility, paired with the zero cost, I don't think it was a waste.
Also her third skill pretty much guarantees a full NP bar.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 01, 2016, 10:01:26 pm
Her low HP still doesn't make her too viable. Once she reaches 10K HP, it should make her last a lot more.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 01, 2016, 10:11:32 pm
She has 10K with the new CE though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 02, 2016, 09:59:48 am
Well yeah, equipping her with that CE works, but I personally wanted her to have a CE that increases her NP gain even more to make her NP spammable. I would rather give this CE to d'Eon personally.

Btw, the game decided to screw with me by getting me Arturia with my last ticket (why not give me Kintoki if you're going to give me a 5*... not that I complain that much though). So yeah, I'm basically stuck as to who I should use as my main Saber. No way I raise two Sabers that require similar materials. So yeah guys, who's the better Saber, Mordred or Arturia?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 02, 2016, 11:20:07 am
Well yeah, equipping her with that CE works, but I personally wanted her to have a CE that increases her NP gain even more to make her NP spammable. I would rather give this CE to d'Eon personally.
I get what you mean about giving her a CE for more/different utility, stilll, Shield of Rousing Resolution at level 10 gives her 400% NP gain for that turn (on top of the reduced cooldown for the skill at LV10) so that's not a HUGE issue. She'll get better once she gets more ascensions because yes, sadly she's stuck at Lv50, I'm just saying that for the cost of 0 in a team along with her new skill (And being able to swap in members with the Chaldea battle suit) she's invaluable.

Haha, so you got another 5* from a ticket? That's impressive, my record is still zero, despite all the quartz I've gotten from consecutive logins. interludes and summoning tickets. You're still not getting my money for that guaranteed 5* gacha, DW.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 02, 2016, 01:56:36 pm
I'm honestly surprised at my luck. Funny thing is, I was considering spending money in that 5* guaranteed roll in case I got Jack, but first I get Mordred in the London gatcha, and then Arturia in the New Year gatcha, with only tickets. So yeah, I'm perfectly fine with not doing that gatcha.

Not if only my luck would grant me Kaleidoscope...

Edit: Now that I look at my list of Servants, I do have to say I am lucky.

(http://)

I'm only missing Babbage, Diarmuid and Fergus apart from all the 4* and 5* that you can't see here. Without wasting money. Keep in mind that there's the three event Servants and Marie who was my chosen one as the free 4* Servant (and I will never regret it, even if I missed having a good Archer until much much later).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 02, 2016, 02:17:00 pm
So yeah guys, who's the better Saber, Mordred or Arturia?
They're literal clones. The only difference (beside a few hundreds here and there in stats) is that Mordred has a debuff dispell+def up+NP increase skill while Arturia has Charisma. Then Mordred's NP has double damage against all Arthurs (which is pretty useless IMO, generally speaking). Arturia's Charisma isn't that good (unless you're raising it to lv10), so unless you're just using her to boost your other Servants, Mordred is probably a bit more viable by herself.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 02, 2016, 02:19:58 pm
Okay then, I will be sticking with her. Too bad for Artoria, she won't have second ascension until much much later, when I feel like farming for Saber pieces. I wonder if Mordred has any interaction with Artoria in My Room.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 03, 2016, 02:24:33 am
Edit: Now that I look at my list of Servants, I do have to say I am lucky.
http://i.imgur.com/u7rbtHL.jpg
And you were complaining months ago and now look where you are!

Whenever I've gotten a golden servant with a ticket is always a duplicate (Or a garbage CE)
I have Marie at UGH...NP LV3 (And I didn't pick her as the free 4*), Carmilla at NP LV2 (She was my free 4*) and Lancelot at NP LV2. The rest at NP LV1 are Herakles, Tamamo, St.Martha and Saber Lily, and yeah the event servants maxed out. Still, pretty bad track record for the amount of times I've tried to get something. I'll just dump all my tickets on the day every new year's servant's rate is up and hope for the best I guess.

Mordred being "Arturia without charisma" works in so many cruel ways. Ouch.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 03, 2016, 03:31:33 am
On my regular account, I've tossed some money three or four times, and I have 5 5* and 12 4*. On the alt account I've kept since Halloween (no money on it), I have 3 5* and 8 4*.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on January 04, 2016, 07:48:08 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3zeqd9/fate_grandorder_crossover_event_confirmed_onstream/

FGO Crossover confrimed in February. With what, we don't know.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 04, 2016, 08:28:34 pm
Does "crossover" have to mean another property entirely or could it be between TM properties

Because I would pay more money than I'm comfortable admitting for a chance to get anyone from Tsukihime
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 04, 2016, 08:54:23 pm
I'm expecting Carnival Phantasm MK2.

Btw, I watched the stream, and it was really fun. Rigged dices FTW. If you understand a bit of what they're saying, I highly suggest you to watch it. I'm sure you'll find plenty of videos available in Youtube.

--------------

New maintenance:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/3zje1q/maintenance_on_16_from_1400_1600/

So finally Sunday won't be a day where I won't do anything. Since I have plenty of Saber related things and more than enough QP, it was the only day I was not farming anything. Now we will have EXP of every class on Sunday so we can still level up that day.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 05, 2016, 11:17:27 am
Hah. Yeah, it was kinda dumb that the day where everyone is usually available and not at work was the day for QP that no one cares about. And it doesn't seem like the QP dailies will be removed, so that's 8 more prisms to farm that day, which is nice.

I rolled every last ticket and quartz on both my main and alt accounts. Got a Jeanne and a 2030. Jeanne is absolutely not my play type and I won't touch her, but the 2030 is fine for Scathach, who is lv80. I don't know yet about switching my friend leader from Lancelot+Kaleido to Sca+2030, I'll think about it. Gunsalot is still the best to clean up wave 3 of all EXP dailies.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 06, 2016, 06:46:36 pm
Well, I'm going to do the three YOLO rolls I got from the stream rewards. Wish me luck so I may get one of the 5 stars.

Edit: First roll, 3* Roman CE. Okay...
Edit 2: Oh hey, I got Babbage! It was the last 3* Servant I was missing from London. Not bad.
Edit 3: W. T. F.
(http://i.imgur.com/PG7j0xQ.png)
I thought I was gaining nothing once I saw the silver Rider, then it turned into gold. It was my first time experiencing that IIRC.

So yeah... well, I have no complains. A worthless CE, a Servant I wanted to have because it looked cool and another Gold Rider. I think Martha is the only one I'm missing now LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 06, 2016, 07:49:33 pm
Grats, they're pretty damn good in spite of their awful, awful design. If you have a Black Holy Grail, it just got fixed to fit the description (instead of the other way around), so it gives 60% boost on NP, it should make their NP insanely powerful.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 06, 2016, 07:52:17 pm
I do have it, so I guess I will be able to use it. I still won't stop using Marie though, I refuse to do so. She's still the Servant I have in My Room, that's how much I like her.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on January 06, 2016, 09:26:07 pm
Used my summon tickets and 40 of my quartz. The highlights were me getting Carmilla and a 2nd Medea with my tickets and then getting Paracelsus and 2 Babbages on my Grand Summon.

Also I got three of the Gudao and Gudako New Year's CE.

EDIT: Oh, I also got Caesar.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 06, 2016, 10:01:31 pm
Carmilla is the second strongest Assassin you can get (Jack the Ripper surpassing her by a lot), so congrats. The other 3* Servants are quite good too, so not a bad roll you had there. The Gudao and Gudako CE is not good unfortunately.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 09, 2016, 03:28:14 pm
In the last couple of days, I've gotten Super Successes for EXP feeding all up the wazoo. Like, out of 10 feedings, at least 6 or 7 become a super success. Is there something going on that wasn't announced ?

... I forgot, before the change in dailies formula, did the "all classes" EXP daily use to give EXP cards from all classes, or the "all classes" EXP cards ? Because the new Sunday EXP daily is the former, which is quite a bit less interesting. Oh well, it's still interesting enough for a Sunday daily, better than just QP.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 10, 2016, 10:50:53 am
They gave the former. So yeah, they just brought back what already existed before. Not that I complain, at least I got something to do on Sunday.

I sure wish they gave us more ways to farm Demon Hearts and Dragon Scales soon. God, the drop rates are terrible for them. I need hearts for both max ascension Carmilla and Mordred. Will have to rely on that dumb 160MP bag in order to ascend Mordred.

-------

10 more quartz for reaching a certain milestone in Twitter:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/40ftv0/news_10_quartz_present_on_112_thanks_to_200k/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 12, 2016, 11:12:55 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYjV1JWWQAE587Q.jpg)

Guess who just rolled Mordred.
(This is after the New Years gacha since I'm not wasting money to do the paid gacha)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 13, 2016, 01:03:26 pm
Nice. I got Artoria with a ticket so I hold no regrets of being unable to do the New Year roll that gave you the guaranteed 5*.

However, I must admit I got too cocky with all the luck I got, because I just recently managed to get 40 quartz with the 150 day, rolled in order to get Tesla, and was rewarded with nothing but 3* Servants (and none were Diarmuid not Fergus), one Hollow Magic, and that the 4* CE equivalent to increase damage of Quick cards. I sure hope Valentine's event doesn't have a Servant I would really want.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 13, 2016, 03:42:10 pm
I've been the three star king for a while, so when I rolled a Frankenstein I nearly bolted out of my seat at work
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 14, 2016, 01:34:13 am
There's an upcoming event in which you'll need Sabers. Similar to Christmas, which means they will increase the drop rate of whatever they use as currency in that event. So I guess this 1/2 AP event will be useful if your Sabers don't have a high level.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/40rqdb/new_event_announcement_saber_based_event/

Well, with Mordred, Artoria and d'Eon, I don't think I will find any difficulty with it. Caesar is still level 60 from the Christmas event and he's damn good, and Gilles... well, I have him at third ascension (don't ask, it was a day I was really frustrated), so I may as well level him to 60 too.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 14, 2016, 02:30:38 am
I think my Mordred can handle this.

I have Caesar too so....Guess I'll work on him.

EDIT: I just realized I have Saber Lily too. Guess I'll work on her as well.

....Oh and I also have Fergus, who I've done nothing with.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 14, 2016, 02:35:08 am
Mordred, Nero, Caesar on my main are fine (well, they don't have a good synergy, Mordred is very generic and Nero is only worth for the heal), but I'll need to level Altera on my alt to help out Arturia Alter.
I'm not sure it's going to be a drop rate up in the same way as the previous events, most Sabers are either 4 or 5*, they can't give a different drop bonus according to rarity. Those events are always cryptic until they actually come out...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Dumanios on January 14, 2016, 03:33:36 am
I've got Okita, Fergus, Caesar, and (if all else fails) Gilles. I think I'll be good.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 14, 2016, 07:41:28 am
Caesar, Gilles and Saber Lily.
Oh joy.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 14, 2016, 10:07:20 am
Borrow a good support. Or attempt YOLO rolls in the story gatcha as they have Artoria as one of the 5* Servants that you have a high chance to obtain (alongside Tamamo). If you get Fergus, you will have a decent team too.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 14, 2016, 05:20:24 pm
Really hope the Saber focus means rare items like Horseshoes are in the shop

I'm so close to getting Attila to her final ascension I can taste it
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 14, 2016, 07:18:24 pm
I want eleven monuments so that Artoria can reach max ascension. I don't want to farm them. I don't want to farm.

Edit: Would you look at that...

(http://i.imgur.com/pCj3Rs2.jpg)

Just who in their right mind would do this to himself?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 15, 2016, 04:24:19 am
I want eleven monuments so that Artoria can reach max ascension. I don't want to farm them. I don't want to farm.

Edit: Would you look at that...

(http://i.imgur.com/pCj3Rs2.jpg)

Just who in their right mind would do this to himself?

No idea, but I just did this to myself:

(http://i.imgur.com/dkY1Bho.jpg)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 15, 2016, 06:32:09 am
Or attempt YOLO rolls
With my luck? Hell no.
I'll just hoard these until DW makes the gacha less awful. I think they were going to implement the ability to use FP for the premium gacha so I'll just wait.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 15, 2016, 09:39:16 am
No idea, but I just did this to myself:

I was mainly talking about the support I got that had a Mona Lisa CE. That's 1000 Mana Prisms wasted and a lot of time in their life too.

Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 15, 2016, 09:53:46 am
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/agtjcj/

Saber. Wars.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 15, 2016, 10:17:15 am
Arturia Lily as the free 4*.

I hope you're glad you paid to get her 8 months earlier to not use her.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 15, 2016, 11:19:07 am
Hahahahaha, the Saber wars. That was hilarious.

And hey, with this I can finally get Saber Lily for free! Yahoo! Though if you can only get less than 5 copies, I don't think I'm going to bother getting her NP, her stats are subpar compared to other Servants.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 15, 2016, 11:56:09 am
It'd be weird IMO if you couldn't max out her NP with the event. I'd sooner expect an amazing drop bonus for her and you can only get her late, so those who bought her get a good advantage.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 15, 2016, 01:18:21 pm
Well at least I can finally make my Lily useful.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 17, 2016, 12:33:45 am
In a far, far away galaxy...



I sure hope this event makes me laugh a lot, I have high expectations for it. I'm expecting Mordred appearing and saying "You're my father!" to Artoria instead of the opposite.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 18, 2016, 10:56:43 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/P3WnMF0.png)
I'm probably ready for the Saber Wars (low on ascension mats for Fergus and Caesar over there. Also Waver's just filling in the void of Gilles while I try to see if I can do FP rolls for him.)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 19, 2016, 11:39:47 am
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/agtjcj/
Mysterious Heroine X (codename A-X), 5* Assassin, Secretcalibur (Himitsucalibur, unnamed sword of victory) is anti unit, stronger against Saberface.
Artorium is the ahoge, new main currency. Apparently it'll be pretty much like Honnouji event.
Not translating everything right now, but the Sabers have increased destructive power, woohoo.
The event Lily CE gives 100% power boost to yourself, the Heroine X CE gives 50% to the whole team. Those 2 and 2 more (alpha and beta something, maybe ce exp like honnouji) can be obtained with artorium. I assume that'll work like honnouji points.
Pickup rate summon for A-X, Nero, Saber Alter.

http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/onurf/
Maintenance has new FP summons, 3 interludes for A-X, a third one for Nero, all EXP daily renamed to random exp, prism shop changes, profiles fixes, damage display fix.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 19, 2016, 09:39:16 pm
Translated!

http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160120.php
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/41nw1o/new_saber_wars_info/

Also guide (image fails to load sometimes so here's a direct link too: http://i.imgur.com/m5LrkkX.png):
(http://i.imgur.com/m5LrkkX.png)
As you can easily see, the transistor and all-purpose lens are worth nothing since the rewards they give can be easily farmed. The dragon scales, however, are not easy to farm, so go for these ASAP. No demon hearts breaks my heart.

WTF, Mysterious Heroine X a 5* Assassin. I wasn't expecting her appearance nor her class. I'm not really expecting myself to get her, but I have my 3 YOLO rolls ready so anything can happen!

What I'm really interested here is the new FP summons. I have a total of 40 FP rolls ready, so I hope they are interesting to get.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 20, 2016, 09:55:37 am
Hahaha, the wyverns all sport an ahoge! That was funny.

And oh hey, the main Servants from Extra stand together to fight against me. What a surprise.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 20, 2016, 09:58:50 am
So uh Heroine X's NP

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 20, 2016, 10:02:43 am


Yeah, pretty much it. Does tons of damage for sure, and I want to know what one of her skills do, that grants her a clock as symbol. As an enemy, it grants her 4 attacks per turn.

And LOL, Tesla appears and his name is Captain✩Nikola.

Also, the FP gatcha now gives 1* and 2* Fou too.

Edit: Welp, my YOLO rolls only granted me the 3* event CE. At least it's something, the other two were pure garbage.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 20, 2016, 11:44:31 am
Yolo rolled... Got A-X. I think I'm getting super lucky.

Teach comes up, wants to touch stuff and get a sweet good wife, you prepare for a fight, A-X says isn't he a friend of yours (choices : "it's okay" or "yeah, it's totally okay"), Mashu says it's the kind of ally you often get into a fight with, then "I just remembered, the Servant I fused with, he wanted a holy sword !"
... Uh ? Is that part of the joke or are they sneaking serious story bits in there out of fucking nowhere ! (Galahad had that weird sword that was supposed to be holy but never did shit)
(Teach is willing to help you train) "It's okay, a puny lv1 NP won't kill me" *Caliburn dick stab* "You're even worse against men than Orion !" "I'm so sorry, my hand slipped ! Please, one more time !" "I can't say no to that cute face, but PLEASE aim at my chest !" "Okay ! Cut the wicked, Calibu-oops ?" [...] "you know what, I think your NP is plenty strong like that".
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 20, 2016, 11:56:22 am
So the dick stab is basically official at this point. For that reason this NP should do increased damage against human males.

Btw, I've done the 40 AP quests, and they can all fuck themselves. Specially the one with Tesla, making it impossible to pull a team of only Sabers without having to revive them at least once. And the other quests starting from Tesla have Servants with 1M and more health, which is retarded as fuck, because the bigger their health the higher the chance you eat a NP, and unless you can dodge/block it getting hit by a NP equals death. Plus it makes the battle annoyingly long.

But well, now I finally have an Artoria Lily. Not really useful, but at least it's something. She most likely will be better than Gilles, so back to the bin bro.

Edit: Oh, and one of the rewards from the Artorium prizes was another quartz, which let me roll a Diarmuid. Finally, I got him. Now only Fergus remains.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 20, 2016, 12:01:26 pm
The Sabers have a strength boost (my Mordred deals double damage), and the CEs give another boost, so it should be doable ? Or put your Sabers in the back and get one Heracles or Scathach friend.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 20, 2016, 12:05:28 pm
Yeah, I wanted to say that with a full party of Sabers it's really hard to win this. Don't make a full party of Sabers for this, not worth the difficulty. Bring Kintoki for Jeanne, Scathach for Tesla, Okita for Scathach or Waver for Mysterious Heroine Z. You need them to reduce the time you'll spend in one single quest, else it's 15-20 minutes trying to reduce that huge HP.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 20, 2016, 01:35:37 pm
Siegfried "I dropped Balmung in a pond, and this goddess called Stheno asks me 'did you drop the older witch, or the younger witch ?' so I say 'neither' so why did she gives me both ! My head hurts."
x calls Tesla captain tesla, tesla is sad that his nickname in the future isn't doctor lightning.

Hnnng, Nero's new interlude is a new skill. Battle continuation, she can revive three times within 5 turns.

Episode 5
A-X "I'm from the future to save the world and destroy people like you (Saber Lily, Nero)"
Tamamo "Why ? Emperor, are you going on a world tour for a live ?"
Nero "But that would be saving the world !"
A-X "No, actually, your live tour destroyed the new planet Roma. No, you didn't do anything, it's just that it's terrible just from you being there."
Nero "Is it because we're too sexy ?" *Saber Lily blushes*
A-X "It's because there are too many of you ! (well, of us) Enough to start a world war ! There's a huge inflation on Saber class. The entire Lancer class was exterminated, and everyone from the Archer class became judged as a criminal."

.... whaaaaat
So Heroine X isn't even Arturia, she's just someone from the future in the Servant World (AKA the universe, hence the rocket ship) who happens to be a Saber face. And she decided to do some ethnic cleansing in the past before it got out of hand.
Lily says she should be a target because she's a Saber that shouldn't have existed in the first place, too. A-X says that's fine, she doesn't need to kill everyone - she should leave at least one Saber or else she herself would never be born. And she decided that that one Saber should be Lily !
Nero "oh come on, why wouldn't it be me ?"
A-X "well that's obvious. You stand out too much. Also, now that I look at you more closely, you don't even look like me. ... I guess I could let you go too."
Cue Heroine Z who tries to kill X because she's gone too soft and abandoned her mission to kill all Sabers.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 20, 2016, 07:49:39 pm
Hahaha, wtf is that plot? What kind of future is waiting for us that we will be swarmed with Saberfaces? I would rather be swarmed with Marie, honestly.

Btw, that new skill that Nero has is really good. Three revives in 5 turns. If you lower its cooldown and with her health recovery, she's meant to last a long on her own. Is that skill the same she could use in Extra that allowed her to come back if she was killed?

And while Nero has turned even better, Heroine X is not that good after you try her. A delayed party stun is worse that a non-delayed stun (and chances are you don't need a party stun), Instinct which is worthless ever since the upgrade we got with the crit stars, and her third skill is a combination of star generation plus extra damage against Saberfaces which is not that good. For what you can check, Jack is much much better than her as an Assassin. Her NP is cooler than Jack's though, if you go for that.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 20, 2016, 07:54:45 pm
Btw, that new skill that Nero has is really good. Three revives in 5 turns. If you lower its cooldown and with her health recovery, she's meant to last a long on her own. Is that skill the same she could use in Extra that allowed her to come back if she was killed?
Oh, yeah, the name in kanji seems to be the same. "Thrice, Though I Welcome the Setting Sun" in Extra according to the Wikia, that's the same here.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 20, 2016, 07:59:08 pm
So that means this skill is now officially another personal skill she has, instead of just a skill that exists in Extra only. Cool for me, that skill saved my ass tons of times against that Excalibur Gallantine.

Edit: HAHAHAHAHAHA!

(http://i.imgur.com/5kGbvD2.jpg)

I got the UMU power with the 4 quartz you can get today! Dat sexy Saber is now mine! That's it, no YOLO rolling this event anymore. My luck probably left me after this roll.

For what I can see, you also need her at third ascension apart from clearing her second quest.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 20, 2016, 08:16:00 pm
Yeah, the interlude has her explain it. You go to the hill where Nero killed herself, she tells you how she didn't understand her countrymen, got kicked out of her throne, ran away to here, kept hoping someone would call out to her (closed her eyes, thought she saw something but it was an illusion, closed her eyes again, thought a random sound was someone calling for her) and on the third sunset, she killed herself. So yeah, it's definitely a personal thing. Checking out Wikipedia, it seems to relate to how Nero chickened out of it twice, before finally having someone else help him out when he heard soldiers approaching.
Yeah, third ascension. I haven't final ascended her. Dunno how many bonds, I have it maxed.

And while Nero has turned even better, Heroine X is not that good after you try her. A delayed party stun is worse that a non-delayed stun (and chances are you don't need a party stun)
Hey, it's still party-wide, the one turn delay isn't really a problem if you plan your game, IMO it's much better than an immediate single target stun. How many Servants have a party-wide stun ? That's something you'd find in an NP, not a skill, isn't it ? Even if you might not always need a party-wide stun, it's still better because it increases your chance of stunning anyone. I rarely use regular stuns myself since they always have bad success rate, and by extension I almost don't use anyone who relies on a stun skill (except Medusa because she has monstruous strength as well and a good NP).
Also on her NP SO MANY STARS

... Uh, could've sworn Caliburn was anti-unit, it hits the whole team ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 20, 2016, 08:59:03 pm
It always hits the whole team. Maybe you got confused because it always lands on the crotch of one enemy. After landing though, it explodes, hurting everybody around the one that got its crotch destroyed, though it doesn't affect the crotches of the remaining enemies.

So yeah, it targets all enemies.

Edit: ...Oh hey, now the Fous in the shop cost only 15MP, but you have a limited amount of 20 for each of them. Basically forcing you to use FP rolls to get Fous now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 20, 2016, 10:12:32 pm
Okita with Purely Bloom can pretty much make Scathach her bitch.

Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 20, 2016, 10:30:01 pm
Great, now I need to get my hands on an Okita! Easy job!

Or find somebody who has it, but unfortunately Okita users seems not to like equipping that CE for some stupid reason.

Edit: Finally Okita users are starting to put that 100% increase of damage to her. My god she obliterates Scathach in an instant.

For what I'm seeing, Tesla is good for mid tier farm, Jeanne for low tier, and Scathach for high tier. Heroine X for Artorium only.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 21, 2016, 06:33:59 am
14 summoning tickets and 40 quartz later.. I only got one event CE and Alexander... that's it, the rest was junk.
...I'll just go back to FFRK.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 21, 2016, 11:50:55 am
My condolences. At least you can get a 4* Saber if you didn't have one before, with a full powered NP.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 22, 2016, 12:30:26 am
I just noticed that the last lv90 quest that gives a Lore will be Lancer only. That's weird, between the increased Saber power, the very likely swarm of Bloom CEs, and the class triangle, for once that lv90 just might be doable (well, for those who have more Sabers than just the 3* anyway...) Unless the boss has like 5M HP and crits 100% of the time with 400% crit power or something, I guess.
Got 2 Bloom CEs from the shop and about 60k Artorium (with my first Lily), that's going well, Mordred hits like a freight train now. Also I finally rolled Atalanta - on my alt account, so between Saber Alter and Scathach, that's officially my waifu account. Apparently I have a waifu account now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 22, 2016, 03:51:45 am
My condolences. At least you can get a 4* Saber if you didn't have one before, with a full powered NP.
Too bad I preregistered so I already had Lily. And she doesn't even have the stats of a real 4*.
Oh well.


Anyways, I had to use seals to fight Tesla... I wasn't prepared for the mobs, I'll do the harder missions after acquiring CEs and leveling up Lily.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 22, 2016, 12:34:27 pm
I have 210K, and that's because I've been spamming the hell out of the Scathach quest (after every AP refill, and even got a level up so more to that). I also have managed to obtain all Bloom CE, all Saber monuments and all dragon scales using that quest, since you get like 40 or more of them just by beating it unless you're unlucky and the majority of enemies appear with an ahoge.

And even with that ahoge, it doesn't stop enemies from having their normal drops (unless it's the door, which replaces its ahoge for the 4* EXP CE), and so far I got three demon hearts from the demon in that quest. Now the only 4* and 5* Servant that I lack the last Ascension are Scathach, Nero and Artoria Lily. Fuck Anne/Mary and Carmilla for requiring so many Talons, and even Hearts for Carmilla. I'm finally done with you two.

Oh, and Scathach seems to have a high chance of dropping the bloom CE. I got two from her so far, which means less farming to do. Really guys, use those superquests to farm event items. They're hard, but really rewarding.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 22, 2016, 01:21:55 pm
I beat Tesla with Sca and Cu without trouble, but I can't beat Sca without reviving my full team. The bots, demon, then Sca herself take too long to kill, even with a support Okita with Bloom and NP and master buff. i'll try a strong assassin and a Sca in front for the riders and sabers, then the back row with sabers (except that's already 3 5* and Blooms everywhere, high cost), but a full saber team + Lancelot doesn't survive for me. And that's with 4 Blooms !
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 22, 2016, 02:46:10 pm
I use a team of Artoria (lvl 80), Mordred (lvl 90, maxed ATK) and Okita support. All of them with the Bloom CE. I also have Nero (and Mashu) in the backrow with a Star of Artoria, so that means 150% increase of attack to all the front row Servants (except the friend Okita who's already maxed, so it's 250% in that case). All enemies in the team need only a turn for each to die except the demon, unless I get a Brave Combo with the Okita support with criticals and the crit buff and star attraction. After that, if all of them have their NP ready, I trigger all of their buffs and there goes the entire enemy team, with perhaps Scathach surviving at 20K or 30K health.

Once I manage to max Bloom on my Mordred and get another Star of Artoria, it will turn into a one-sided massacre. Mordred and Okita at 300% is really crazy.

Edit: WTF, another dropped Bloom CE. Welp, maxed out Bloom.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 23, 2016, 01:42:05 am
I noticed the artorium gifts have one Bloom in them, which is good since I don't have to pray for one to drop (I never had that last Halloween Princess on my main account :( ). And I got mine earlier today, and just bought the fourth one in the shop, so I maxed mine too. Also got the last heart to final ascend Mordred, my first Servant to break past 80... and holy shit those final levels are costly in EXP. Almost 30 4* EXP didn't even give her 3 levels. I have her as my Leader I with maxed Bloom of course.
And I got around to killing Scathach reliably too, btw.
... Hey, the Bloom actually works out well with its intended effect for those battles (any of them), too, for once... About 5 to 7 turns to clean the first two waves, then a couple more for NP gauge, that's like 7 to 9 *5 = about 40% damage up on the NP, which you can then blast over the boss.
... Which is just like a Heaven's Feel. Which has the same rarity but doesn't make you wait 8 turns. Yeah, the event CEs are still pretty bad by themselves, but it does work out well in this case.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 23, 2016, 02:24:29 am
My team for Scathach quest is Mordred (level 90, max Purely Bloom), Waver (500 Years Dedication, it helps somehow), Okita friend (with Purely Bloom, doesn't matter if it's maxed or  not)

I use Waver's NP first (assuming I get it in time) and Okita's second, seeing as how they both have defense down debuffs, Then, I finish her off with Mordred's NP.

EDIT: My Lily has Star of Artoria equipped.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 23, 2016, 05:21:11 pm
Say, I thought A-X was supposed to have 3 interludes available, but I can't find them anywhere (on any map or the Chaldea Gate), even after clearing the Heroine Z quest (cost me my last quartz, not doing that again soon without at least one Artoria Star). Anyone knows where they're supposed to be ? I can't even find the box that tells me what requirement I'm missing, and I have her first ascension and bond level 2.

edit - never mind, first interlude is in Septem, Rome node, requires bond lv3. Weird, the counter says 4 missions but it should be 5, I have the free node and 3 other interludes waiting, and X's interlude is at the bottom and I didn't scroll, that's why I missed it. Tiny display glitch, is it ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 24, 2016, 01:47:09 am
What happens in her interludes? I'm expecting them to be a joke since the character itself is a joke, but maybe I'll be surprised.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 24, 2016, 02:02:31 am
I dunno, I don't even have the proper bond level for the first one yet, and I'm already locked at the second ascension :P (assassin pieces and dragon fangs which I'm not getting from the shop yet, I'm doing the tranGstors first, and after that I'll need plumes for the next ascension) I'll see if I can get the EXP and mats next week, but I've already emptied the 4* EXP cards for others...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 24, 2016, 05:58:56 am
Having E Rank lung with the gacha is tough, I finally cleared the last two free missions, I can clear Scathach consistently thanks to a Nero support with this team
(http://i.imgur.com/ckaBo91.png)
Heroine Z though, that required even more planning and a Siegfried support, I don't ever want to try it again.
(http://i.imgur.com/fP6i3vo.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 24, 2016, 12:39:09 pm
X's first interlude
X tells Mashu about "Saber THE Saber", the contest to determine the strongest, ultimate Saber. Roman wants to ask her if she's really the king of the sacred sword. If you tell her "but you're an Assassin" she says "you're saying strange things again, Master ! I am obviously a Saber however you look at it !"
First opponent is Mordred, she goes "uh ? Have I seen you somewhere before ?" X : "*sweatdrop*" even the announcer wonders why X isn't a Saber. Mordred recognizes X as her father, X says she doesn't know whose child Mordred is. X really wants to kill Mordred, who blushes and goes all WTF is going on. During the fight, seeing X's sword, Mordred is sure X is Arturia. Mordred vanishes all confused calling her afther an idiot (she doesn't vanish like when Servants die though, I dunno)
X "Another Saber that isn't me has gone, England is safe !"
Mashu says that opponent seemed to know X, X goes nope, I haven't the foggiest idea whatever she could have possibly been thinking !

On my way to collecting lenses to get fangs for her second ascension and second interlude. Got my first Star, should get easier and easier.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 24, 2016, 07:40:44 pm
Sort of unrelated, but Okita is fucking dangerous

Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 24, 2016, 08:31:29 pm
Well she's got three Quick-Up, and NP up, a Master ATK up, most likely a fully broken Bloom, probably a Star or two... We've all seen those shots of Robin dealing like 5M damage with his NP too.

X second interlude
next round of the same tournament, you fight Nero. while X is rambling about cutting up a Saber with Calibur, cutting up a Saber with Calibur. Nero is pumping up the spectators (this is happening in Rome, so she has home turf advantage in popularity), X jealously says she could do the same in Britain... ? She challenges Red Saber, claiming that Blue Saber should have monopoly over the Saber market, to hell with the blacks and whites, red is the worst. She doesn't even like splitting pairs in blue and red, especially if it's for a popular crazy emperor.
Nero ".... By the way, who are you ?"
X "Diiiiieeeeee !"
During the fight, X is confident she's going to win, and... is already thinking about going to eat after that. Nero tries to rally the people's cheers, but still loses.
Nero "Oh, I remember where I've seen you before !"
X "Ah, well, it's about ti-"
Nero "Jeanne, it's you, isn't it ?"
X *Excalibur*
X "I won, Master ! Soon, I'll be the only Saber left !"
Mashu "... Senpai, shouldn't we stop her already... ?"
Third interlude in London, it's an NP up, but it requires the third ascension, I'm not there yet, don't have any EXP for her yet.

If this turns out to be the actual Artoria gone in a crazy killing spree against her many clones, this is hand down her best portrayal ever. On the other hand, seeing there's also a Heroine Z, it's more likely basically a crazy Blue Saber fan.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 24, 2016, 11:18:29 pm
yeah, your plot summaries have been pretty fun and this has been the best artoria one.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 25, 2016, 04:04:54 am
I'm even surprised she got an Interlude honestly, taking into account she's only a joke character that copies Kirito with her Noble Phantasm. I mean, Nobunaga, Caster Elizabeth and Santa Alter never got one, so why does Heroine X get one? Yeah, I know they were freebies and she's not, but still...

Poor poor Mordred, the only appearance she gets in someone else's Interlude, she's treated this bad. Nero has appeared in other Servant's Interludes and it usually shows lots of her good sides (Marie, Romulus, and I'm not sure if the same happens with Caligula).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 25, 2016, 09:36:34 pm
yeah, your plot summaries have been pretty fun and this has been the best artoria one.
Thanks :)

So it wasn't that difficult after all to reach lv70 with a few 40AP EXP missions and all 100 3* EXP from the shop.
X Interlude 3
in Southwark, London
Announcing the grand finale of the Saber THE Saber tournament in Britain, in a mysterious old castle (Mashu "it is ancient, but I don't know about mysterious...") X says of course the finale would have to be held in Britain holy ground. Arturia is the final opponent. "Hum, excuse me, I've been dragged here, but what is this exactly, anyway ?" X says this day has finally come, they're like the two sides of a coin, light and dark - but she has to surpass her. (your options are "no but, isn't this Saber... you ?" and "let's go, Blue Sab- I mean, Heroine X !" first option gets Mashu to tell you to drop it already) X calls herself the ultimate Saber. It's scary to mess with parallel worlds and causality and crumbling time-space, but let's get to it ! Arturia is surprised to feel those eyes stare right through her (she might be talking about having *her own eyes* stare right through her, I'm not sure, the wording could be either), but she can't let this Saber loose in the world. She doesn't really get it, but it's for her (Arturia's) own good too.
During the fight, Arturia notices a dark aura on X and wonders what pushed her so far. X says Arturia can't understand the fear of her own face multiplying like that. (Roman "no, I think it's pretty easy to get...") Arturia thinks she has to seal her here or her own image will be in trouble. She calls for the planet to release her holy sword, to give her the power to wipe out this strange self (as in, wipe that "me" over there). X calls for her holy sword to destroy all Sabers.
Arturia loses, despite being having home ground advantage and everything maxed out. "Hey, Mashu, say something." "Me ? Oh, Congratulation, Artu- I mean, Mysterious Heroine X !" X is happy to have defeated and surpassed all Sabers, and finally a true Grail War for Saber can start (what ?) ... Altera, d'Eon, Caesar pop up and congratulate her.
Scene change to a camp in the forest.
"... -san.  ... -ber-san, I mean, Mysterious Heroine X !"
X "By the way, I don't know if you've noticed, but I actually am Arthu- what !!?" (yes, Arthur, not Arturia)
Mashu "dinner's ready, please wake up."
X "Wait, that was a dream ??"
Oh fuck you :P
Sooo.... Basically just a long running gag about X being really Arturia in disguise but everyone seeing through it - except it was all a dream. Eh, whatever.

I'm leaning toward X being a crazed fangirl at the core and just dreaming that she was the real Arturia. Z's existence wouldn't make much sense if X was the original one. But hey, NP upgrade. Oh damn, EX rank ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 25, 2016, 11:33:52 pm
I was expecting lancer artoria to somehow appear in the end and defeat both sabers with her two big weapons.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 26, 2016, 12:31:41 am
I sure hope FGO Materials explain why she has those big weapons when technically she had that lance even after having Excalibur (and she killed Mordred with it, so it was possible to easily explain why she can be summoned as a Lancer). Making me accept that she's a different Artoria that never got the sword is stretching it a bit too far, specially since no Excalibur, no King of Knights.

And so, in the end Heroine X interlude ends up being a dream. Not the only one that has pulled off the "It was all a dream" explanation for some of the Servant's interludes, and really, it shouldn't be used at all.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 26, 2016, 04:18:58 am
afaik, it's because avalon stops her from growing, which contradicts what we know about shiro, so maybe it's teh avalon excalibur combo?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 26, 2016, 09:18:54 am
Yeah, Avalon's the one that stops her from growing, but Avalon is precisely the sheath of Excalibur. Without the sword, why would she even have its sheath? Sure, it was stolen, but since the Grail summons the Servants at their prime age, and at her prime age she was young because of Avalon's effect... well, she should have been summoned with the same body she has as Saber class.

Plus, while I do know that the Servants are separated from time flow, which is the reason EMIYA can be summoned, I don't recall that it's possible to summon versions from paralel worlds where things went different. Even the characters from Prototype have basically the same or similar story as their FSN counterparts, and it's easier to accept that there can be different versions of it (I mean we even have Da Vinci as female form, and while laughable it does make a bit of sense that it's possible). But in this case... I mean, it's basically Excalibur / No Excalibur, which is a huge difference that you can't just ignore.

But yeah, I know, it's a Mobage, and in the end they will just make anything in order to make people buy more. It's just that... well, I expected them to try to be as much accurate as they could with the Fate lore, while still making more money. Some Servants do have the potential for another game after all.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 26, 2016, 11:38:50 am
Extra showed that the "observer" needs to observe all possibilities (and it keeps trying to hint that the Mooncell is as good as the Throne and vice versa but they're still not the same thing guys). Also, Emiya already proves that, Shirou isn't becoming a CG in any of the vn routes and yet here's Emiya. So yes, alt universe and alt timeline forms are possible.

As for Da Vinci, she explicitly says she painted her ideal beauty therefore she gets to be summoned like that because fuck you all, I can do that if I want to, I'm mufuggin' Da Vinci. As in presumably she was a man in her real life. (He was most likely gay in real hiistory anyway so it works out)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 26, 2016, 01:10:49 pm
The EMIYA problem (basically, EMIYA never encountered a Servant EMIYA in his life) is something that I don't think we should see as a paralel world, even though it obviously is. At least I don't think they hinted it this way, every time they mention that part in Fate Stay Night it seems like they don't treat summoning Servants of the future as another paralel world for the Servant, but rather just changing the past.

Still, we have the same problem, Artoria only becomes a legend and king by obtaining Excalibur. Also, without Excalibur, I'm pretty sure they can't beat that dragon that was mentioned in her past, can't remember its name now, with only the lance.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 26, 2016, 01:25:17 pm
The dragon in Garden of Avalon is Vortigern, and she did kill it with the lance, I think. It even nearly extinguished both Excalibur and Galatine (because that's what it does, extinguish stuff)

Emiya didn't change the past, he had no hand in getting summoned, Rin's pendant did (as in the one in her hand at the time, not the one Emiya kept). And it picked him from the future (rather than Emiya making his move to the past, if you catch the difference) (or rather, from the throne, which doesn't have a past or future) - except Shirou doesn't become a CG in that future, ergo it picked him from an alternate timeline. Emiya exists in the throne, the vn is a timeline that doesn't lead to him, it can't be anything else.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 26, 2016, 05:22:05 pm
Yeah, Avalon's the one that stops her from growing, but Avalon is precisely the sheath of Excalibur. Without the sword, why would she even have its sheath?

yeah, it's backwards, avalon is the one that stops her from growing, by not getting the sword/sheat, she can grow and grow breasts; avalon means she's stuck at a younger age, like vampires.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 26, 2016, 09:29:02 pm
So I was looking over the maintenance notes and I noticed something about a survey.. https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/42qkq6/weekly_maintenance_on_january_27th_to_put_forward/

Was there something I missed?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 26, 2016, 09:42:18 pm
? They're carrying out the first user survey, as in, there is *going to* be a survey.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 27, 2016, 10:23:18 am
Here's how you take it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/42wdlw/how_to_take_the_fgo_user_survey/

You don't need to fill the text boxes, btw. You get one ticket the next time you log in if you have sent it. Hopefully with the huge amount of people mentioning that the summoning system is bad at this moment will make them improve it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 27, 2016, 11:48:50 am
Favorite fate game
Why does this not have unlimited code (other than through the "others" box)
(Make sure you put sangoku/sengoku musou series for collab)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on January 27, 2016, 06:38:00 pm
Prisma Illya isn't there either. But yeah I was going to pick F:UC too.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on January 27, 2016, 06:42:12 pm
It took some time dammit but I finally farmed enough Horseshoes out of the lvl 60 to fully ascend  Altera

Now comes the maddening moment where I decide whether to keep going for all the riders that need it
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 27, 2016, 11:29:51 pm
I'm sorry guys, but as much as I like Fate/Unlimited Codes, I voted the original F/SN novel as the winner. With the Realta Nua version, it gained so much with voice and the new BGM that it just wins against everything.

As for anime, it was a hard pick between Zero or Unlimited CodesUnlimited Blade Works, but in the end I prefered Zero a lot more.

Edit: Corrected the anime I mentioned.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 27, 2016, 11:53:02 pm
if by unlimited codes you mean unlimited blde works, zero is better, in ubw they just got so lost at some points that it seemed they had forgotten they ahd already animated some scenes/dialogues and made them again.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 27, 2016, 11:54:54 pm
Yeah, I meant that. Whoops, what a mistake. Editing it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 28, 2016, 12:18:25 am
I'm sorry guys, but as much as I like Fate/Unlimited Codes, I voted the original F/SN novel as the winner. With the Realta Nua version, it gained so much with voice and the new BGM that it just wins against everything.

As for anime, it was a hard pick between Zero or Unlimited CodesUnlimited Blade Works, but in the end I prefered Zero a lot more.
Hum, it wasn't cumulative, it was which one of these was the best, not the best anime + best game + best novel. When you picked the Zero anime, it removed your selection of the VN.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 28, 2016, 12:39:10 am
Yeah I know, I was just stating which one I liked from each cathegory. In the end I picked F/SN, but if they had let us choose it separately, I would have chosen Zero as my favourite anime.

And as for collab, I left it blank. Had no idea what kind of game would fit this. Perhaps Suikoden, for the RPG and battle parts?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 29, 2016, 09:53:54 am
As this is important news, new post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/437zm5/fgo_february_update_what_to_expect/

We finally will be able to change our target after we have pressed Attack, in case we pressed it accidentally. Ffs this was needed a lot.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 29, 2016, 10:19:13 am
Oh good. They explained that limitation by claiming, it's realistic, once you set your Servant to you can't hold them back anymore. That was bullshit. Dunno if it's only target change or you can actually go back out of the attack screen, to pick skills again.
Login counter, tips on loading, servant/ce/present boxes size up, visual cue that your CE is max broken in your party composition (like in the friend selection).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 29, 2016, 10:24:03 am
They mean that once you're locked in the Attack phase, you can change your target before choosing your cards if, as it happened to me many times, the game failed to registered the target your pressed.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 29, 2016, 10:36:12 am
I know, I'm wondering if we'll also be able to go back to using skills.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 29, 2016, 10:54:32 am
I doubt it. Skills require you to be outside the Attack Phase, and some affect where the stars go or the amount of stars you get, and the way it is coded right now I doubt they can put something that distributes the stars again after getting more. It would need a big change on the system of how stars are distributed for it to work.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 29, 2016, 11:32:16 am
That's why I'm talking about a return to the previous screen. Well, not that I really expect it here, but I wish they considered it. There's no reason for it to be impossible to code - but yeah, I suppose it could be very easy to abuse to redistribute stars...
Only way I see it for target change is that the card selection screen still has the hp bars of the enemies clickable, then.

Edit
Today's daily
http://m.imgur.com/a/m7Tsu
Jack's name
B.J
What
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 29, 2016, 10:07:24 pm
Black Jack? I suppose that's the joke here.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 29, 2016, 10:33:37 pm
yes, that or blowjob because prostitute depending on how you chose to read it
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 29, 2016, 11:12:36 pm
I am just surprised at the fact that she managed to get smaller panties.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 30, 2016, 12:18:14 am
NP 5 with Lily. With this, I am done with this event. Anybody else has managed to reach the 1M Artoriums?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on January 30, 2016, 12:41:52 am
About 730k. I might hold out maybe one more day of the dailies, but it's tough getting a team that can win (enough Blooms and Stars) and yet still have a decent Artorium multiplier. Maybe if you can Bloom up a maxed Lily... Still curious about the final daily, requiring lv90, yet it'll be only Lancers... Eh, it'll probably have like 5M HP.
I still can't even reliably beat Z (too big cost to have 3 Stars, a Bloom, and enough tanks, unless maybe if you use one less member in your party), so it's still hard to collect points outside of the dailies.

edit
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/43at72/fategrand_order_contributed_significantly_for/
http://www.irwebcasting.com/20160129/4/95d76e9f3c/mov/main/index.html
13:45 mark on the recording, slide 20 said:
We think there are 3 reasons for the strong performance of the music segment ... Fate/Grand Order, a smartphone game developed by Aniplex, which is a subsidiary of Sony Music Entertainment Japan, has become a hit, and this is contributing significantly to our profitability.
Namedropped not only in the slides, but even takes the spotlight in the spoken presentation right after Adele, Spotify and Apple Music. Huh, so much money. Now expecting Sony to make it blow up into series and live action movies and the whole shabang. I hope Nasu can secure a contract made of solid gold with Sony. He's up with the Hollywood stars like Adele and Apple now.
Killed today's 1.2M HP Karna... A Saber for tomorrow is going to be tough, but at least I'm at 930k points now. And I can beat Z. past 1M and done.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 30, 2016, 08:25:16 pm
ha, so it's indirectly financing sfv and kof14.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on January 31, 2016, 01:43:36 am
The Karna fight is not really that much intimidating honestly. If you can beat Scathach with no problems, it's basically the same. The only thing is that you're unable to raise your NP enough so you can nuke him the turn you reach him, unless you have insane luck with the cards. That, and Karna disabling your NP. That's why I love the stun from the Chaldea clothes, works so well for giving you a turn to setup.

And judging by the title of the last quest, you're probably going to fight against Alter Lancer Artoria, with a lot more HP than Karna, though at least her skills are far easier to deal with than Karna's honestly.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on January 31, 2016, 04:34:22 pm
So on my last summon ticket roll....

I summoned Servant Kirito.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

And then with the summon ticket I got today, I rolled Saber Alter
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 01, 2016, 01:10:20 am
I just checked and the 4* EXP and the tickets in the shop have been refilled. Looks like they will refill them at the start of every month, though we will know for sure at the beginning of the next month.

New battle has a Lancer Dragon and Attila at the end. It's a tough fight because LOL crits from Attila, and if the dragon spams the fireball, even worse. Had to waste 3 CS because of a damn crit happening at the worst time possible.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 01, 2016, 07:31:08 am
I cleared it pretty easily with my farming team and a Nero support.
I just gave everyone Artoria Star CE's, filled NP the first round and went to town (And had Mashu tank Herakles' stuff)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 01, 2016, 11:23:23 am
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/rayfpf/

500M DL event, boys.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 01, 2016, 11:39:33 am
And here's the translation, as always.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/43nq4p/new_update_500_dl/

That's a ton of quartz. Looks like I will be able to roll for the Valentine event if there's one. I was expecting a free 5* Servant, but I guess it won't happen.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 01, 2016, 01:27:49 pm
So... How come Knight of Honor only deals 110k on the exp daily and not 160k anymore
Because it still kills everyone but not as much as I wish it did.

Never mind, I must have misfired my Master atk buff last time. Gotta get used to regular damage again.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 01, 2016, 01:33:04 pm
It should still do the same damage, they haven't done any change to the damage Knight of Honor does. Perhaps the current event messed up the values, and it will come back to normal once it ends?

Edit: Last quest available, as expected only Alter Lancer Artoria with 3333333 HP. I see what they did here LOL. It was easy to win, with Okita's dodge and Mashu's Invincibility and sacrifice, and one CS to increase NP to 100% I was able to win.

And finally!!! Scathach at her second ascension. OMFG 12 pieces was annoying to get.

And I'm truly done with this event. No more grinding from the event. Got all my Saber and Lancers to 1st Ascension and got Nero to second ascension. Time to go for 4* EXP cards again!

Edit2: Attila finally gains her NP upgrade!

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/43td21/3rd_february_maintenance_1400_1600_altera_is/

Also we get new Servants and CE, apart from the ones mentioned before.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 03, 2016, 06:37:06 am
(http://i.imgur.com/XKjTEH2.jpg)

B-B-B-B-Brynhild!
Also 4* Beowulf (Berserker) and 4* Fin McCool (Fionn mac Cumhaill) (Lancer)

Also I was told that they are removing old 3* CE from the story gacha. However, you can still summon for them via FP rolls.

Brynhild's NP is single target and does bonus damage towards her "beloved." Beowulf's NP is single target and it "never misses"

Finn's NP causes attack down and prevents debuffs to self.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 03, 2016, 08:35:39 am
WTF with Fionn. Totally different from the Zero version. And as everybody expected, we get Brynhild. Let's see who gets lucky here.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 03, 2016, 09:56:36 am
I never expected Zero Finn to become canon, he was like one still frame of a random face that they couldn't avoid showing, it's like Rhongomyniad in the ending, they didn't know what else to put and they probably didn't ask for an official design that no one knew if it would ever be reused.
Grendel Buster for one, Mac An Luin (Finn's sword/spear) for the other... With effects that are just random debuffs, I dunno, it's just trying to be more than straight damage but it feels too random at this point IMO. At least apparently Beowulf is double wielding two of his weapons.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 03, 2016, 11:42:21 am
Beowulf looks so cool. Honestly, I want him more than the other two. Too bad the shop tickets and trial ticket only gave me the new Jeanne 5* CE.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 03, 2016, 12:00:47 pm
Yeah, Beowulf seems cool (he looks wicked and his NP is hardass), but another 4* Zerker, I dunno. Fionn is arts oriented, seems close to Emiya, he can work but I'm not really interested. Good to have a nice 4* Lancer though.
The Saber dress is cool, up to 60% burst, 20 stars and 4k continuation, that sounds very viable. Single target though.
I'll do the Bryn quest at home.


Finally full maxed my first 5*, Mordred. I also landed a Beowulf (and no other gold Servant in like 170 quartz and 13 tickets over two accounts, but at least I'm glad we're not getting the old 3* CEs anymore in the quartz rolls)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 05, 2016, 09:47:28 am
I'm really jealous. Soon I will be able to 10-roll, so hopefully I get Beowulf too.

And yeah, maxing the 5* Servant is a pain in the ass. You need like 3 40AP quests to be able to raise their level once sometimes. But it's worth it if it's linear or reverse S growth. Mordred and Artoria ate tons of stars, that's for sure.

Edit: Ugh, I got shit nothing in my roll, except some of the new 3* CE. FML.

Oh well, at least I was able to max out Kiyohime's NP. Believe it or not, she's quite rare in my rolls.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 07, 2016, 02:25:54 am
I can't believe I never noticed this sooner, but DelightWorks really like to make 5* Lancers limited, even though Karna will be permanent when Chapter 5 is released.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 07, 2016, 04:09:31 pm
So I've been thinking about playing this, but I have a few doubts about it:

- I know the whole thing is in japanese. Are the menus and interface reasonably easy to browse or will I constantly have to check a faq?
- Do I need to know about the series lore to enjoy this game? The only piece of nasuverse-ry I'm familiar with is Tsukihime.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 07, 2016, 04:58:46 pm
The menus are all in Japanese, you'll get lost a bunch at the start, but you get used to it soon enough, there's only so many menus you need to know, and you visit them all the time.
You only need to know the basics of the Servant summoning system from the Fate series, all the stuff actually happening is completely original. You don't even need to know about the original Grail system from the VN.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 07, 2016, 07:03:26 pm
Installed it. After my first roll and burning 4 quartz and 4000 friend points I got Mephistophelss, Arash and Boudicca. Are they worth something or should I reroll for 4 star servant?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 07, 2016, 07:19:42 pm
Build up for a 40 quartz roll, that way you're guaranteed a 4 star SOMETHING, so you'll have a better chance. Keep in mind your character level effects the cost of using servants and craft essences too, so I wouldn't worry too hard about having a higher level servant quite yet. You shouldn't really get too hung up on anything right now.

EDIT: I realized I didn't answer your actual question. Yeah, those are decent for starting out. Boudica's NP is a pretty good buff, Mephistophele's is a pretty good full party attack, Arash's is good full party damage EXCEPT that he kills himself to use it, so always keep that in mind.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 07, 2016, 07:25:20 pm
Mephistophelss, Arash and Boudicca. Are they worth something or should I reroll for 4 star servant?
They're worthless compared to everyone else, but at the start of the game, they're good enough to get you to France until your next 10-roll. Aim for FP rolls and someone like Sasaki or one of the Cu Chulainn clones. It's not like you really need some super strong Servant until the end of Rome (I don't even think Okeanos is particularly hard if you took the time to level up your 1~3* Servants). Plus you can always use your friend list to steamroll through stuff at this level.
You can always reroll if you're full of hope, but you might have to reroll several times until you get a proper 3* or anything above (don't even bother aiming for a 5*). Plus, those are the ones you're the most likely to land at this point in the game. There aren't too many really good low level Servants - not counting those guys on niconico who boost their 1* team and wreck lv90 bosses with the likes of Asterios and George with insane strategies, at a low level they're still weak.

No, anyway, the hardest part will be to properly level your guys with the EXP dailies you can handle (or let your support carry you). ... Not those 3, sure (just enough to keep you going), but once you get someone decent.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 08, 2016, 04:07:06 am
Cool, thanks for info. So my priority should the main campaign + lvl quests and hoard quartz along the way,  got it.

Was support really useful back in the early days of the game when no one really had useful servants?

Edit: what do the golden ticket and the five under the summon button mean? Something about the current event?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 08, 2016, 04:31:54 am
iirc pay2buy had good servants even back then.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 08, 2016, 05:03:50 am
Edit: what do the golden ticket and the five under the summon button mean? Something about the current event?

The tickets are free rolls and yes they are related to the current event
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 08, 2016, 09:01:37 am
Was support really useful back in the early days of the game when no one really had useful servants?
Hah, there were people at lv90 within a month (even though it was crazy hard to farm for exp and material back then for multiple reasons). For the story, supports at lv50 (first ascension limit for 5*) were more than enough, and there was no "super" difficulty (lv40) for dailies, so yes. And the average Heracles was a monster.

The tickets are gift from the current event, but you get them every now and then (you can buy some at the shop). You can use them for the quartz rolls whenever.

The 5 under the summon button is the number of summons you can do currently. Watch out for the difference between quartz and friend point summon, don't waste your quartz too fast.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 08, 2016, 08:45:00 pm
It's recommended you always wait for a 10-roll since it's a guaranteed 3* Servant and a 4* or more CE or Servant. And it's always nice to have an extra quartz in case you need to increase Servant/CE slots or get some AP if you don't have apples.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 09, 2016, 11:08:51 am
Valentine = some event with collecting chocolate coins, the usual. Also event CEs for a bunch of girls. Rate up for all the 5* girls.
Nero Bride, 5* Saber, and... Single target NP. Damn it, I almost want that (I would like Okita better though)
(Thankfully I don't give a shit about any of the other 5* girls)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 09, 2016, 11:13:30 am
Nero Bride has an Arts NP wow. She most likely will have two Arts cards. If that's the case, she'll be the first Saber to fit in an Arts team.

So for what I can minimally read, apart from obviously Nero Bride, Arturia, Attila, Jeanne, Orion, Tamamo Caster, Drake, Jackie and Mordred has a higher rate for getting them. All 5* wow. And all of them have specific days in which they get a higher rate, except Nero Bride which has a higher rate in all days.

This game is tempting me hard to drop the F2P stance. Ffs game don't do that. Going to obviously aim for Jackie here, and perhaps Tamamo Caster OR Jeanne.

-------------------------

Edit: As always, translation of the event here.

http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160210.php#nav

Expect to get all female 3* Servants at NP 5 in this event, if you roll. Well, at least this event is perfect to get Medea, one of the best Casters you can get.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 10, 2016, 06:42:33 am
I finished fully ascending all my 4*'s (Except Herakles because I don't have crystals), I'm ready.
I should probably start ascending my 3*'s... like, maybe Kiyohime and Medea.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 10, 2016, 09:27:22 am
I myself have only fully ascended my 5* and 4*. For now I'm getting all my Servants at 3rd ascension, in case they have a third skill and also to get their last sprite (some have really good 3rd ascension sprites, like Phantom). If, and only if, I run out of Servants to ascend, I will start considering ascending them.

Edit: Welp, server's dead. Looks like the Valentine's event attracted even more people than the Halloween event.

Edit2: At this point the event will surely be extended a day, since barely any people has managed to log in.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 10, 2016, 01:24:20 pm
There's a second screen after the generic can't connect one that says something about february 10, 19:30 (that was about 2 hours ago...) and a 12 characters long code. What's the code for?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 10, 2016, 01:52:16 pm
The code is the type of error, basically telling you it's maintenance time. The time says that maintenance will last from February 10, 19:30 (which is the time when everything went down) to infinity, and beyond!

Basically, they don't know when they will have everything ready. Btw, welcome to your first maintenance time.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 10, 2016, 04:45:39 pm
Hahaha more maintenance until 7AM JST.
Good times.

What was the apology quartz rate again ? One quartz per unplanned hour of unavailability ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 10, 2016, 04:59:45 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/45362v/emergency_maintenance_ending_7_am_jst/

A total of 12 quartz and 12 apples. See you tomorrow!

Edit: This is all the chocolates you can get.

(http://i.imgur.com/D7ioPSD.jpg)

I can get 24 of those 40 myself. My quartz will all be used for inventory expansion urgh... Guess I'll have to rely on the tickets.

Btw, the name of Artemis chocolate is タスケテ. Poor Orion...

---------------------------------

Edit2: Valentine's event is finally available to everybody!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 10, 2016, 11:14:54 pm
I believe I am done with this event now.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/120979035290468352/147100840027619329/Screenshot_2016-02-10-17-05-21.png)

I'll keep farming since I have nothing else to do though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 10, 2016, 11:29:14 pm
You fight chocolate-colored Servants
"what the hell was that ? It looked like Shadow Servants, but it smelled like chocolate"
Mata Hari comes running
"Haven't you seen some chocolate running around ?"
"... Come again ?"
"I was cooking and melting some chocolate, but it assembled and took human shape and ran away."


..... Uh, oooooookay.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 10, 2016, 11:39:11 pm
Hahaha, I was wondering why Mata Hari appeared in that scene. What does Shakespeare say about the whole scene?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 10, 2016, 11:52:49 pm
Before the fight, he says
most girls are busy making chocolate. for some, it's obvious (like Artemis to Orion), but with some girls like Mata Hari, Marie Antoinette, Boudicca, no one knows if they're going to make obligation chocolate or actual love chocolate. Half of the guy Servants, even if they have no hope of getting anything, are still scrutinizing every movement. Except for Boudicca (uh, what ?) I expect White Day is going to be a mess. Well, there are still male Servants who act like they don't care, but [green-eyed monster jealousy quote].
And obviously he wants to go have a look at all that.
Then you stumble across the choco Servants (Shakes names them that way after you meet Mata Hari, after being very surprised at the notion of chocolate running away).  The chocolate she used was special, it has some magic that was supposed to turn them into jewels. Shakes is the one to push you into chasing the chocolate because the boys will probably want it badly. Gudao is very suspicious of his motivation.
Oh, and Roman was chilling under a kotatsu, saying it felt like even though he has a mountain of work, someone was probably going to come and take care of it for him. Shakes makes a joke about him being really carefree, Roman jumps like, come on, I just got some shut-eye for an instant, and you're already badmouthing me !

So you chase down Blackbeard who has some of that chocolate, he wants to blow up those damn normies, so he enlisted help from Mephisto because bombs, and also Spartacus because CHOCOLATE IS OPPRESSION (although he wants some too).
WOW Spartacus uses a skill ( again, I missed the name) that charges his NP full, the NP is renamed Valentine something (missed it)... but it does no damage ?
Blackbeard wanted choco Servants from Euryale, Atalante, Artemis, Mata Hari, Boudicca, Kiyohim-- no, that one is a bit too scary.
Then Blackbeard gets blown sky high.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 11, 2016, 10:07:13 am
Spartacus skill fills his NP bar completely, but LOL at the fact that his NP does 3-digit damage. Thank god to that, I nearly got a heart attack when I saw him using his NP in the first turn.

Well, Blackbeard part is as I expected. Even without knowing japanese, it was easy to realise what was happening. For the next one, while I don't know why Emiya and Diarmuid attack you, I know that it ends in them forcing Caesar to run and burn calories, IIRC for the little amount of Katakana and Hiragana that I could understand.

Edit: Btw guys, if you do the Cavalry quests now, you'll see a ton of Assassin coins dropping. I suggest you make use of it if you have a lot of Assassins.

Also, timeline for the increased drops here. First column is from 00:00 to 13:59, second from 12:00 to 23:59. Japan time btw.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ca6OmT9UMAASSX-.jpg)

And guideline to maximize gains:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/456yr4/operation_receive_all_their_love/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 11, 2016, 10:51:42 am
The hot guys are warning you that shit can hit the fan even if you're lucky to get chocolate (CHOCOLATE IS DANGEROUS !) (basically chapter 1 was the sods having no chocolate and complaining, chap 2 is the ikemens having chocolate and complaining)
Caesar doesn't care, he's eating it all. You fight, he realizes it burns calories, gets the hot guys to help him burn some more, then they yell at him and make him run it off.
Not extremely interesting.

This event is so confusing on which ce to get, when to use it in which quest, and which party to use. Way too many variables and setups and it changes all the time.
i'm putting the few drop up ces on servants of the ongoing class in the back row, then putting those who can destroy them on the front row, is that right ? That sounds super restricting.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 11, 2016, 12:14:42 pm
The Chocolate CEs increase the amount of coins you get from the same class as the Servant who gave it to you. So a chocolate CE from Marie would give you 2 more Rider coins. This can be equipped to anybody.

Mashu's CE increase the amount of coin chocolate of any class you get to 2. This can be equipped to anybody.

The gatcha event CE increase the amount of coins you get (the higher the rarity the more, and it goes +1, +3 and +5). This needs to be equipped to an specific class, which will make you gain more coins from that specific class only.

This event is done in this way IMO:
1. Stick to the 40AP event quests that have the class bonus. As of right now, Assassins gets tons of coins. Make use of the gatcha event CEs if you have one.
2. Get all the CEs from your Servants, this gives +2 coins of the specific class plus you're not forced to form a party with an specific class. Replace the Tiger CE you get for free if you have enough chocolate CE, +2 is better than +1 obviously.
3. If you don't have enough chocolate CE from a specific class, get at least one Mashu CE. Keep in mind the event drops them, I got one this way. Replace Tiger CE for same reasons.

What you need to do after this is to do step 1 all the time, even after you got all the class CEs. As one chocolate coin equals to one chocolate, you want to maximize your gains. When the next class bonus appears, stick to that class. Just so you understand, I got a total of 100 Assassin coins with all my CEs in just one event quest. So yeah, stick to them only, otherwise you don't gain as much as you could.

And in case you're wondering what happens with Jeanne's chocolate CE (or equipping her with any gatcha event CE), it gives you more All Class coins, which can be traded for any coin. It's really worthless since these are drops from the boss only, and it goes 1->1 in the exchange.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 11, 2016, 12:34:02 pm
I only have taiga tear dojo ce right now. I almost have the coins for one assassin choco ce but by then the class will have switched and I'll start over with another class with taiga :/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 11, 2016, 12:46:32 pm
The next 12 hours will give you Lancer coins. I hope you got Elizabeth, Scathach, Brynhild or Lancer Artoria Alter, otherwise...

Don't you have apples? You should have gained some from the last maintenance. We're going to get another 12, so there's no problem spending them.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 11, 2016, 01:09:17 pm
I have apples, and also work and a battery that my phone needs to last the day without a charger. The week end will be fine, but not during the week.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 11, 2016, 06:00:22 pm
This is the first event that has me perplexed

Is the goal getting to getting the character CEs just to increase the chocolate you can use to buy Ascension items

Is there any extra benefits to having a character in the party beyond what CE they have
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 11, 2016, 06:56:42 pm
It's complicated.
The event CE (those that aren't chocolate from someone) give you a coin drop bonus for the class of the Servant it's equipped on. So bringing specific characters isn't important, but choosing the class of the Servants you bring and give a CE to is important. Earlier I was stacking Taiga CE on Sasaki and Hassan in the back row, myself.
Coins give you chocolate CE, and those give a coin drop bonus for the class of that character, regardless of who you're equipping it to. From here on, only the CE matters.
Coins also get exchanged for chocolate points, which give you items and chocolate drop bonus CE (Mashu) in the shop.

I'm not going to calculate how efficient it is to use your coins to buy chocolate CEs that allow you to get more coins (instead of directly exchanging the coins for chocolate), I suppose that depends how hard you plan to farm or if you want to get everyone's chocolate CE (everyone you have, that is).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 11, 2016, 07:13:19 pm
It's obviously more efficient to get the chocolate CEs first, unless you have a lot of 4* or 5* event CE to compensate. Keep in mind that there's no way to increase the normal chocolate drops, so you need to increase the drops for the class coins to exchange them later. Specially because yet again the mats are expensive. Besides, you're rewarded with a scene when you get the chocolate, and some scenes are really fun to see. So it's both cost efficient and fanservice. Aim for them, really.

You should only aim for Mashu if you don't have enough female Servants for a specific class. You'll probably see this happening for Berserkers, Archers and Lancers. Specially Lancers, as there's no low rank female Servant available yet, so unless you got lucky with rolls you probably won't even have one. I myself only have Scathach and it was a fucking miracle to get it, honestly.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 11, 2016, 07:29:21 pm
Paracelsus talks about granting the wish of the girls
"I'm glad. I was worried that my Master would keep walking this path to carnage..."
"It's good, I'm fine"
"... and if he would eat that chocolate from all these girls"
"... oh."
then he gives you a potion to protect your stomach.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 11, 2016, 10:46:37 pm
When one of the girls is able to make chocolate that can run and fight, that sure is an amazing present to give.

---------------------------

Edit: OMFG, Scathach interlude is a fucking nightmare at this moment. I heard DW will fix it, and no wonder why.

You know why? Because in the third part of her interlude you fight her. And she spams her dodge skill nearly every turn. NEARLY EVERY FUCKING TURN, and sometimes she spams it three times, gaining a massive increase of critical damage enough to ignore class differences. I'm so glad I read about it and had that CE that ignore dodge skills. Otherwise this would have been impossible. Only Mordred was doing damage the entire fight, but seriously, I hope this is a good lesson for DW to add a goddamn cooldown to enemy skills.

Still, a 400% damage increase to her already insane NP. It's incredibly noticeable.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 12, 2016, 12:48:51 am
... Uh, the Mashu CE gives the same coin drop bonus as the chocolate CE, but for all classes.
So you get some CEs in a class that's good for you, you get more coins of that class, you exchange for choco points, and you buy all 4 Mashu CEs.
And then you use the 4 Mashu CEs, and you never use any of the other Choco CE (except maybe one per class to have a full team).
Is that right ? Because that sounds like someone messed up.  Except for those who want all the choco CEs obviously, but still.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 12, 2016, 09:10:04 am
https://twitter.com/fgoproject/status/698055606343610368

Eventception.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 12, 2016, 09:25:31 am
... Uh, the Mashu CE gives the same coin drop bonus as the chocolate CE, but for all classes.
So you get some CEs in a class that's good for you, you get more coins of that class, you exchange for choco points, and you buy all 4 Mashu CEs.
And then you use the 4 Mashu CEs, and you never use any of the other Choco CE (except maybe one per class to have a full team).
Is that right ? Because that sounds like someone messed up.  Except for those who want all the choco CEs obviously, but still.

That may not work because of the CE cost. You may be forced to use a low cost party. That's why you should replace those Mashu CE for the chocolate CE that match that day. Those have really low cost so they allow for a more flexible party. Both give the same amount of coins so you're not losing anything.

-------------------------------------

In case you want to read all the events that show when you get a chocolate CE, here they are:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/456l0m/valentines_servant_cutscene_translation_needed/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 12, 2016, 11:51:01 am
200th day celebration
Gifts are
One million QP !
Two tickets !
Two golden apples !
One ATK Fou !
One HP Fou !
Ten thousand FP !
Ten 4* EXP cards !

Thank you DW, that is mighty generous of you.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 12, 2016, 03:45:04 pm
Isn't that what they gave us in the 100th day, I think? But seriously, not even a damn quartz as present. Talk about generous.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 12, 2016, 08:32:50 pm
So Alice is the one who stole the chocolate. Uncle Shakespeare asks her to return it so that the girls can cook their chocolate, but Alice wants the choco Servants to stay with her. Even though there are a lot of nice people in Chaldea, there are no kids she can have a tea party with. Jack vanished on her way there, Andersen --- keeps writing bad ends o_O
Shakes says a kid's love is still not the same as the love of men and women (you don't know that !!) so you need the chocolate. You offer to stay at the tea party if she returns the chocolate.
Shakes is handling the writing, and he says he can do good ends - but in a fairy tale, he really wants to write a bittersweet bad end. Like, really really. Alice is planning to make you forget your name so you'll stay with her (at least for the tea party to last through Valentine's day), Shakes says just imagine the reaction of someone hearing that you've stayed with Alice all Valentine's day, keeping it secret from the other girl Servants. *image of Mashu saying "Senpai, you're the worst"*. Shakes says Alice will get a bad end too, Alice doesn't like that and fights you.
Alice wants to keep eating the chocolate, but Shakes tells Alice there's a cost to enjoying an endless summer. Alice doesn't get it- ouch. What was that ? Sweet pastries, sweet red tea, that's... cavities ! If you don't go to the dentist, it'll hurt like hell. Yes, even though Alice is a Servant - it wouldn't have had any effect if it was normal food, but this was made by Servants.
Shakes' finishing strike, summoning Chaldea's number one dentist ! ... FERGUS ! With the giant drill. Caladbolg will smash any cavity in one burst ! Open wide, squeeze my hand if it hurts (not gonna lie, it's gonna hurt)
Alice thinks his smile is like that of the gatekeeper of Hell. She runs away crying for the tooth fairy's help. Shakes is proud he didn't make such a bad end, but you point out he traumatized a little girl. Anyway now the girls (and one male) will be happy they can make their chocolate. Shakes looks forward to making a Valentine anthology (in other words, it'll go bad and he'll be watching).

By the way, Alice says she got the idea from the man in red. The other day, I think Caesar was saying he knew the culprit (and he was chomping on those candies too).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 12, 2016, 09:21:30 pm
LOL Shakespeare. Trolled Alice so hard. Poor girl.

Well, it ends with a fun and happy? note. Poor Alice, all she wanted was more friends... Why does she even count Andersen though?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 12, 2016, 09:54:20 pm
It's not that she thinks of him as a friend, those 3 are the only kids around, she doesn't have a wide array of choices to play.
Eh, the whole event felt a bit bland to me. It's kinda cliché, I mean, once you have the obvious setup (here are the losers, here are the unlucky chick-magnet pretty boys, here are the ones that eat everything) it all just writes itself. There are a few good lines here and there (the chocolate gattai'd and ran away !), but it's too simple IMO. Not that I was expecting some crazy good story, they can't pump them all year long (Christmas started amazing but in the last few days it grew a little dull), but it didn't really grab my interest.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 12, 2016, 10:22:05 pm
Well, Andersen is not really a kid, he just has a kid form because of the influence of Innocent Monster/Seraphic Monstruosity. Jack is treated as a kid though, and I wouldn't mind more interactions with the two of them like it happened in the Christmas event, they were so cute there.

Anyway, after this event, I wonder if we will start learning more about the crossover they mentioned before. Some people seem to believe they will do one with Kantai Collection.

-----

Translation of the whole event here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/45hebg/valentines_day_a_moggish_favour_translation/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 13, 2016, 08:15:37 pm
In our inboxes, we got a letter from Mashu. Upon receiving it, it unlocks the next main quest. (I think)

What the letter actually does, I'm not sure.

The CE you get from the quest:

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/120979035290468352/148147241591373825/Screenshot_2016-02-13-14-23-40.png)

I assume it's Mashu's chocolate.

As for why it says Matthew? I think it's because people often mistranslate Mashu's name into Matthew.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 13, 2016, 09:32:56 pm
What effect does it have? Increases any coin drop to 2?

Edit: Yep, I'm right. Basically a cheap cost version of the Mashu CE.

Also, Mashu's official name is now Matthew, apparently. That's... wow, I know they suck sometimes at converting English names to Japanese, but this goes beyond their usual mistakes.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 13, 2016, 09:39:48 pm
It increases the ALL coins (the ones with which you buy Jeanne's chocolate). I don't know they made that CE, the other "increase any coin" are more than enough to get the 150 coins, there's only one CE to buy with them. Sure the ALL coins can be converted to any other class, but there really aren't enough enemies that drop them constantly to warrant it IMO. Just stick to the class you want.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 13, 2016, 09:46:06 pm
Most likely to make it even easier to get the CE in case you have Jeanne. But they drop often enough, and taking into account you only need 150 since there's only one Ruler... well, it ends up being worthless. Poor Mashu (yeah, I'm not switching to Matthew), her chocolate is pointless to get, compared to other Servants.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 14, 2016, 07:53:16 am
Yeah, all this team and CE shuffling is annoying, I'm just getting the Mashu CE's and going to town, getting some crystals and monuments and then forget about it.
It's so needlessly complicated and I am so not going for the servant choco, inventory space is limited enough as it.

Edit:
I read that the CEs are great to level up other CEs... well, I guess I can do that then..
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 14, 2016, 11:13:30 am
Well, it's lvl 80 CEs, so they should give a lot of EXP.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 14, 2016, 03:04:45 pm
Yeah, that's the plan. After this event is over I'm dumping all the chocolate CEs into CEs that are actually useful.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 15, 2016, 10:29:01 am
Little updates here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/45voq2/late_february_miniupdate_details/

I do like the fact that you can slow down the speed of the Noble Phantasms. Apart from finally being able to select the Ascension Appearance. Sorry guys, I prefer Kiyohime with white and blue kimono, not with a black and red kimono. Also, some Servants have their faces hidden when they reach the last Ascension (Spartacus, Mozart), which I personally don't like.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 15, 2016, 12:44:37 pm
Uh ? Selecting a different ascension sprite in battle has been possible for months.

Oh, wait.
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/nkktqs/
It's for My Room. Who cares.
(Oh yeah, that is actually what the reddit thread says, didn't read it)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 16, 2016, 07:48:44 pm
So I went in a YOLO roll spree today using those quartz and tickets we got recently and...

(http://i.imgur.com/cJ4VJY4.jpg)

But I wanted Jack... goddamn, I'm never going to get her...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 17, 2016, 01:25:29 am
I wanted Drake (and Jack) too, but we're just going to have to live with it, I guess.

Got Nero Bride max level with max stats if anyone wants to take her for a test drive (if I ever clean up these friend spaces/even though most of us did the trial)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 17, 2016, 02:13:57 pm
Damn, if only we got the 2 quartz for maintenance now. If only. I could still make a last YOLO roll. Oh well.

And I'm never going to buy the event CE from shop ever again. I got a total of 5 copies of Mashu CE from drops. Same happened to me in Saber Wars. I'm glad the drop rates of those CE are high, I don't have to waste items on them.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 17, 2016, 02:34:13 pm
That's odd. In Saber Wars I only got a CE to drop twice.

Haven't been able to get one to drop in Valentines at all.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 17, 2016, 02:37:19 pm
I've never had a single event CE drop in any event at all. Except that one HallowIri on my alt.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 17, 2016, 02:37:41 pm
I must be really lucky then. I even got another one just now. Just look at that.

(http://i.imgur.com/fsiCaO7.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/kY6i5oK.png)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 17, 2016, 11:29:08 pm
Burned 80 quartz and 7 golden tickets hoping for a lvl 5 saber
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Edit: yolo roll

Spoiler: holy shit (click to see content)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 17, 2016, 11:53:18 pm
Burned 80 quartz and 7 golden tickets hoping for a lvl 5 saber
Quote
the only thing I got was a the 60% NP CE and shitton of NP fodder :(

Welcome to Fate GO babyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 18, 2016, 12:50:24 am
Well, we soon will know what the collab is about:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/467f2d/collaboration_announcement/

------

Welp, event's over for me. No way I'm going to get those 10 Dragon Scales, I have 43 and I think I can live with that. Same for the silver EXP and the mana prisms. Hopefully America comes soon after the collab announcement.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 18, 2016, 11:25:37 am
I'm only leaving the babies, all the pieces, and rider & caster monuments. Also the lore and the last couple Mashu CEs. I finished everything else.
Pretty sure I won't give a rat's ass about the collab, it'll probably be about something I don't like.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 19, 2016, 04:18:46 pm
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/ybsjjo/
F/GO collab is with Kara no Kyoukai

Ryougi is a 4* Assassin(?)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 19, 2016, 04:48:31 pm
4* Assassin, yeah. I'm surprised not only because that's not what a collaboration is, but also that Ryougi isn't 5*. But hey, 4* is cool.
Won't stop the servers from blowing up from people trying to roll her though.

Scathach, CasCu, Diarmuid are around. Scathach will want to die from the MEoDP, although she should already be familiar with Balor's version, which Touko stated to be the original version of what the Shikis have (its description in myth is fucking batshit hardcore BTW, it's not Mahabharata level of total bullshit but the Irish guys are fucking insane most of the time).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 19, 2016, 04:50:44 pm
So the event takes place on Fuyuki's map, you have to clear Fuyuki in order to do it.

Since most of us already cleared Fuyuki, that isn't a problem.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 19, 2016, 04:53:29 pm
It's to temper rerollers down a bit, as usual. Although if it actually happens on the Fuyuki map (seems so), that's a first for them to justify it that way (since all interludes require their map to be finished).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 19, 2016, 05:34:21 pm
Not only that, but according to other people Shiki's a free 4* Servant (they refer to her as how they mentioned Nobunaga in the Gudaguda event). So yeah, I'm really happy about this.

Obviously, it's not official, but really, if they wanted money for her, they would have made her a 5* with that 1% of getting her. Other people seem to believe another 5* Servant will appear to make us pay money.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 19, 2016, 08:01:57 pm
hopefully that girl that got raped in KnK
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on February 20, 2016, 05:36:19 pm
^I feel bad for not remembering her name,but she was hype with those invisible spirals and shit
I hope they put Shikis own class in there but I doubt thats gonna happen

Unrelated,but is there a limit to have many dogs I can feed to my servant?
I wanna get Jing Kes atk to 10000
(http://i.imgur.com/nUdJdxg.jpg)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 20, 2016, 05:45:46 pm
Unrelated,but is there a limit to have many dogs I can feed to my servant?
I wanna get Jing Kes atk to 10000

I think it maxes out at +990.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 20, 2016, 06:15:08 pm
Yeah, it tells you how much Fous you are at for both HP and ATK under your stats. When both reach MAX in thick red and you really can't even select your Servant in the EXP feeding screen, you know you're done.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 21, 2016, 12:37:39 am
I hope they put Shikis own class in there but I doubt thats gonna happen
Wasn't Monster datamined though?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 21, 2016, 12:44:35 am
Wasn't it Beast ? At least the Demon God Pillars are that class (class advantage over all three Knight classes), and I think Avenger is guessed to be that too (unless he's the opposite, weak to the three Knights, not sure).
... Yeah, it's the Beast class
http://blogs.nrvnqsr.com/entry.php/3298-The-Weapon-Triangle-Spoiler-Version
And Avenger is his own class that takes double from everyone and only deals double to Berserker and Ruler (and Alter-ego) lol
No Monster class.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 21, 2016, 12:52:26 am
OH-
Well that sucks I was expecting something like... Katana Shiki to be a 5* or something.

I forgot they had Avenger datamined, I wonder when we'll get the first one (And more Rulers too)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 21, 2016, 12:54:47 am
I was going to say the Avenger class is supposed to be only for Angra Mainyu, but we know how far that went with the Assassins. Maybe Edmond Dantes could be Avenger, who knows. Hell, maybe even Ibaraki Douji could be stretched into one. As for Ruler, beside Amakusa, there was someone who claimed that Nightingale would be one (basically White Mage type), but I never saw if that came from a datamine or a complete guess, so probably the latter.

Still not totally convinced that Shiki will be free. It would make sense that the next free Servant for a limited event is an Assassin (we got a Caster, Archer, Rider, Saber, the pattern should follow with Assassin then Lancer and Berserker so e're sure to have someone available to go Grand Servant for each class) but that still feels super strange that DW would give away someone like goddamn Shiki (and for a limited event Servant that disappear, there's Okita as a precedent).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 21, 2016, 10:56:27 pm
still feels super strange that DW would give away someone like goddamn Shiki (and for a limited event Servant that disappear, there's Okita as a precedent).
Yes, I feel the exact same way, I have F2P friends who where ready to become whales just for Shiki, so I have no idea if this is DW being too benevolent or plain incompetent at business. Or maybe the 5* servant will blow our minds (Instead of being a rate up servant from the previous event, I dunno)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 21, 2016, 11:12:56 pm
They'll probably have regular Shiki as the free servant, and Young Shiki (Shiki Lily?) or Void Shiki (Saber Class) will be the premium Servant.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 22, 2016, 05:36:30 pm
still feels super strange that DW would give away someone like goddamn Shiki (and for a limited event Servant that disappear, there's Okita as a precedent).
Yes, I feel the exact same way, I have F2P friends who where ready to become whales just for Shiki, so I have no idea if this is DW being too benevolent or plain incompetent at business. Or maybe the 5* servant will blow our minds (Instead of being a rate up servant from the previous event, I dunno)

Well, Okita did blow our minds. With that, I mean about how broken she is, compared to Nobunaga who was more balanced. I'm really afraid to see how broken the next 5* special event Servant will be.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 23, 2016, 10:31:02 am
New info on the KnK event:

some upvoted guy on reddit said:
So for this quest you will need to complete missions to get different rewards. theres missions where you have to collect items and missions where you have to defeat a certain amount of enemies. The event CEs will help increase enemy appearance rate while the gacha CEs will help increase item drops. once you clear the mission you can get your mission reward.
Preliminary "How to play" event
Check mission status with button on upper right corner
Complete mission requirements to get mission rewards and unlock new quests
Use Event CEs to increase encounter rate of mission required enemies
Get rewards for clearing missions including Shiki (Assassin)
Event CEs:
Beheading bunny 2016 (5s): invuln pierce effect + 8% quick card effect up (Ghost girl 25% appearance rate up)
Triple Barrier (5s): self received dmg reduced by 1000 (3 times) (Doll 25% appearance rate up)
Future Vision of summer (4s): Grant self evade (1 time) + crit star drop rate 15% (zombie 25% appearance rate up)
Refrain (4s): Star weight +300% (3 turn) + debuff resistance 15% up (Ghost and Skeleton 25% appearance rate up)
Gacha CEs:
Doll maker (5s): 50% NP gauge start + Arts 15% up (3 turns) (Cat figure drop increase by 1)
Mature man (5s): instakill resistance 60% up (Cat figure drop increase by 1)
Vivid dance of fists (4s): dmg incease by 800 (Ice cream drop increase by 1)
Eye of distortion (4s): Buster 20% up + defense 15% down (demerit) (Ice cream drop increase by 1)
Repeat Magic (3s): 20% NP gauge start + NP rate 10% up (mineral water drop increase by 1)
Sprinter (3s): Quick card 5% up + debuff resistance 10% up (mineral water drop increase by 1)
Shiki (Saber) NP: strong defense ignore attack against all enemies & chance for instakill (overcharge) + all ally debuff clear.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 23, 2016, 10:39:46 am
Hahaha Saber Shiki 5* gg.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 23, 2016, 01:50:00 pm
We all saw that coming. Oh well, I rather prefer Shiki 4* than 5*. I won't waste my quartz in this event, tickets are the only thing I will use here.

The CEs, btw, are not bad. I specially like the one that breaks through invincibility.

Also maintenance notes:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/475xai/maintenance_starts_on_25th_february_01000700_jst/

Daaaaaamn, I won't be able to kill Servants with dodge skills using Drake anymore. Damn it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 23, 2016, 03:04:40 pm
? I'm not sure I get it but what I'm reading is that if Cu has a 3 hit dodge and you use the pierce, he still has 3 hit dodge, and the fix is that he should have 2 - but he still gets hit. He used one up and it got pierced.
I think.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 23, 2016, 05:05:04 pm
sounds apropiate for Cu('s luck)

so, assassin shiki is free and saber shiki is pay2win ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 23, 2016, 05:50:50 pm
Yep, just as we all suspected
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 23, 2016, 05:53:54 pm
saber shiki is pay2win ?
Or more accurately, pay2getnothing (or pay2getshit).
... Fuck, I'll need to hit the QP dailies really hard from now on, I'm completely broke, it just completely drains away so fast with skills >_<
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 23, 2016, 09:39:26 pm
? I'm not sure I get it but what I'm reading is that if Cu has a 3 hit dodge and you use the pierce, he still has 3 hit dodge, and the fix is that he should have 2 - but he still gets hit. He used one up and it got pierced.
I think.

What happened before is that if Cu set his 3 hit dodge, for example, and I used Drake's skill that gave her the ability to go through invulnerability, what I experienced is that I was able to hit them through their dodge skill, but my attacks wouldn't affect the counter for that skill. So if I pulled a Brave combo on him, he would still have the dodge intact, with the same amount of hits left before the attack. At least that's what I experienced with Drake.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 23, 2016, 09:42:38 pm
Yes, that's what I'm saying ? The number of hits he can dodge will now decrease, even though you still hit him. If I understand the text right (I haven't even checked the Japanese announcement though, just what the reddit guy says).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 23, 2016, 09:51:13 pm
Yeah, because that's how it was supposed to work. Even if you bypass the dodge/invulnerability, it's still a valid attack so the counter should have decreased in the past, making it really annoying as that made the character with the bypass not really helping you except for damage. In exchange of that fix, you cannot bypass dodge with a invulnerability break skill anymore, which sucks because that made Drake even more broken than she was. I basically wrote my experiences I had with that skill with Drake, to give you an example.

Btw, 6 quartz aka 6 hours wow (yeah, I noticed it now). I guess they went safe here after the big fuck up in the previous event. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens again though.

---------------

Edit: And here's the Cirnopedia page AND the spreadsheet.

http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20160225.php

(http://i.imgur.com/RI8z3v9.png)

I finally will be able to upgrade Drake's NP Increase skill to 6 without having to farm for skill gems.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 23, 2016, 10:07:58 pm
In exchange of that fix, you cannot bypass dodge with a invulnerability break skill anymore
Uh ? I don't think that's what it says. Well, the text on reddit might be interpreted that way, but that's not interpreting it right. The Japanese text 回避スキルを発動したエネミーに無敵貫通状態で攻撃を行った際、発動回数が減らない不具合を修正 says that when an enemy uses a dodge skill, and you hit him with a pierce attack, then the number of dodges will decrease. The fix is only affecting the number of dodges that wouldn't decrease, it's not removing the part where pierce can hit dodge. Honestly pierce would be shit if it couldn't anymore, because there's, what, two Servants at best who have invulnerability as opposed to dodge ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 23, 2016, 10:18:22 pm
Ohh, so it's left intact? Then yay! Drake will still be as broken as she currently is! And even more if now I will be able to decrease the hit counter of such skills.

Also, the number of characters that can have invulnerability is the infamous Marie (if you've done daily quests you know what I mean), Jeanne with her NP, Shakespeare and Babbage, and that's it. But yeah, compared to the amount of characters with dodge skill, that's really nothing, so I'm glad the translation was not accurate in this part.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 24, 2016, 10:53:42 pm
Lo and behold, extended maintenance!
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 25, 2016, 12:29:30 am
And like with Saber Shiki, we all saw that coming. Le sigh. If only the maintenance fuck ups weren't so predictable...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 25, 2016, 12:55:27 am
Oh hey, in the last few days I saw an article saying that a video that wouldn't load and kept stuttering was as stressful on the heart (and damaging) as a horror movie. Surely that must also apply every time you think maintenance is over but it goes out for another two hours, right ?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 25, 2016, 01:03:10 am
You didn't need to be sarcastic here, you know? It's just, people are really expecting them to delay their maintenance every time there is a big event coming, which has happened a lot of times, so that it happened surprised nobody. I'm not going to count how many times it has happened, but I think it's close to 50%. And it's a sad thing that I think it's going to happen, and when it happens I'm not bloody surprised.

And the fact that it's a common problem clearly indicates that DW needs more capable staff. That, or start increasing a lot more the time they believe the maintenance will last.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 25, 2016, 01:40:52 am
? That wasn't sarcasm.

"What's up with the furball ?"
"That's our favourite runner, Fou-kun."
OH DELIGHTWORKS

Shiki Assassin unlock, a loan like Nobu until you finish missions, chokushi no magan skill arts up + pierce + single target death rate up, second skill is mind's eye false, third is something called yin yang.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 25, 2016, 03:14:06 am
I get that if I don't finish at least one of the missions that give Shiki as a reward she'll be gone once the event is over, but will I lose the exp I invested in the "loan" when I do that? (I tried to feed her 5 gold assassin cards and a special warning message popped up, so I backed off).

Also, do all those lvl1 CEs actually do something or are they exp fodder?
nvm they're exp fodder.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 25, 2016, 04:00:45 am
If you use Bluestacks, the event fucks up for you.

Some people in a group I'm in say that the game was updated to use Unity 5 for their graphics, and Bluestacks doesn't support it.

So for those who use emulators: I hope you have another alternative, because you might be fucked.

Edit: I correct myself, most emulators don't support it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 25, 2016, 04:50:08 am
I get that if I don't finish at least one of the missions that give Shiki as a reward she'll be gone once the event is over, but will I lose the exp I invested in the "loan" when I do that? (I tried to feed her 5 gold assassin cards and a special warning message popped up, so I backed off).

Also, do all those lvl1 CEs actually do something or are they exp fodder?
nvm they're exp fodder.
You lose her and the EXP. It shouldn't be difficult to get at least one copy though.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 25, 2016, 07:58:07 am
YES
(http://i.imgur.com/LrCC5N1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 25, 2016, 08:09:50 am
YES
(http://i.imgur.com/LrCC5N1.jpg)

Congrats, you got yourself your very own 5*
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 25, 2016, 08:23:52 am
Wow, you got her. According to people she's a really good Saber. And she's specially useful in certain missions in this event.

Btw, apparently the new update makes it impossible to play this game on a Bluestacks emulator, as it freezes in battles. What do you use to play this game, if you're not using your own phone?

Edit: Yeah, I'm really fucked. Everything shows black boxes, lags as hell and freezes in battles. Any other alternative here guys? My phone is quite old and while I can download this game, it will probably run extremely slow.

Edit2: Well, managed to fix black boxes by installing the Bluestacks 2 version, but crashes still happen sometimes in battle. Will have to live with it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 25, 2016, 09:23:30 am
Wow, you got her. According to people she's a really good Saber. And she's specially useful in certain missions in this event.

Btw, apparently the new update makes it impossible to play this game on a Bluestacks emulator, as it freezes in battles. What do you use to play this game, if you're not using your own phone?

Edit: Yeah, I'm really fucked. Everything shows black boxes, lags as hell and freezes in battles. Any other alternative here guys? My phone is quite old and while I can download this game, it will probably run extremely slow.

Edit2: Well, managed to fix black boxes by installing the Bluestacks 2 version, but crashes still happen sometimes in battle. Will have to live with it.

I use my tablet. Sometimes my phone.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 25, 2016, 09:53:39 am
Well, had to use my father's tablet. Fortunately he doesn't mind me using it, so I'm saved. Well, not like he uses it for anything other than playing Candy Crush or Mahjong Solitarie while waiting for Call ot Duty S&D matches to end LOL.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 25, 2016, 10:35:34 am
FGO is now using an updated build of Unity5 so emulators don't support it at the moment, there's a couple that run it, I saw a thread about it on the reddit, the newest version of Droid4x apparently runs it.
The FGO official twitter also made a post about them not supporting other devices other than phones or tablets (A subtle way of saying screw you to people playing on emulator) so they won't "fix" that on their end, it's up to the emulator developers, I guess.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 25, 2016, 11:04:08 am
I'm going to have to try Droid4x, because the game seems to also crash a lot (not as much as in Bluestacks) in the tablet.

Edit: Yeah, it does seem to work with Droid4x, though the graphics look kind of blurry.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 25, 2016, 11:47:22 am
(On a new phone so I'm good, and my alt will have to go back to my shitty tablet if bluestacks 2 doesn't work)

Damn, that's gonna be complicated. You unlock rooms and rewards by completing missions - "finish room 102", " kill 10 zombies (total) in room 101". Unlocking new rooms unlocks new missions that can be completed once that room is unlocked, so there's no full list ATM. Those who can't read the text will just have to track a list on reddit I guess, or just keep spamming everything until all progress bars are filled.

Oh my god stop talking so fucking much Roman, Shiki, Mashu and everyone ! You don't have to describe the elevator or say where the toilets are !
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 25, 2016, 12:13:05 pm
This should help you in case you guys don't understand japanese, like me.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FgMPIs4LabhMt-UXd692NIL2zIAU2GhrEU4l9RbP404/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

It shows what you can find in every room. And in this website:

http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/5112-Fate-Grand-Order-General-Discussion-GARDEN-OF-ORDER-%28Don-t-ask-about-America%29/page4207

You can find a list of all missions translated if you search this page.

Edit: Ugh, this is so confusing. Compared to the Valentine event, god you have so many CEs to take into account and so many different missions that it really gets annoying.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 25, 2016, 08:54:06 pm
Uh...I personally find this event's rules and CEs much more palatable than valentine's day's. How can you make chocolate coins so unsavory?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 25, 2016, 09:38:06 pm
This event feels really grindy

Glad I saved up my apples

Also belated congrats to Dio on his long awaited acquisition

Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 25, 2016, 10:54:02 pm
I suggest you guys make full use of the CE that increases the friendship gain for Servants because you need Bond 5 for Shiki for the quests. And that's a fuckton of battles to do, I assure you. You also need to ascend her, so don't waste those EXP.

Also this to know how to unlock all doors:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1L2FfSCREf2-9Bo32sSrT1ufOvN46E0vO_Z4jShUvSyU/htmlview?usp=sharing&pref=2&pli=1&sle=true

Edit: Holy shit, you already have Void Shiki at level 80. Is she any good?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 25, 2016, 11:15:12 pm
Oh, you got me worried, but it's just for 5 hearts and 5 scales. Well, that and the final two missions, sure, but... the whole event is crazy grindy but it's going pretty well, I'm already at a thousand bottles (out of 3.3k for the whole shop and as many cats and ice creams) thanks to 3 sprinter CEs and almost 30 missions in a day. If we have two weeks, it should be possible to grind the long ones later.

I've got a guy on my friend list who's had Void Shiki at 90 for a few hours already. She gains NP crazy fast and she lives a really long time, but her NP isn't always foolproof with the instant kill. IMO it's like she's only useful if it succeeds, and if it doesn't, she just stands there. But then again, put her in an art team with a Waver or Tamamo and spam the NP like 3 times in a row, so... yeah.

Of course, congrats SD for your first 5* finally :P
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Erroratu on February 25, 2016, 11:26:03 pm
>This update completely fucked up all my sprites and I cant even play anymore
aaaaaaa fuck me and my emulators
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 25, 2016, 11:33:57 pm
Droid4x works well, though the quality of the graphics will be worse. Still, it's much better that constantly crashing honestly.

Also, I forgot to mention, but the new musics in this event are awesome.

Edit: OMG, Berserker Elizabeth. I was not expecting this.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 26, 2016, 02:38:32 am
Pffhahaha Assassin Shiki's ascension line
"Uh ? No, I'm not changing clothes. What ? The others do ?" (I think I missed the last sentence and I can't hear it again until I've unlocked her permanently)

Edit: OMG, Berserker Elizabeth. I was not expecting this.
Yeah, you're facing crazy versions of the Servants locked in the apartment with the same looped death as the original story, with stuff involving how each of them died. Elizabeth goes on about her murders and her punishment and imprisonment, Boudicca remembers her rampage against the Romans and then the irony of her name meaning victory after she lost everything, etc.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 26, 2016, 03:32:48 am
Edit: Holy shit, you already have Void Shiki at level 80. Is she any good?
I had to slow down to get talons from the event because I needed a bunch for her final ascension but she's 90 now. And while I was at it I got mineral waters to max her out with Fous. She seems pretty good, I mean, she's not a star generating machine nor gets NP as fast as Drake but she seems balanced all around (This is probably reflected by her Connection to the Root A skill)
Now the next goal is to get her skills to LV10. Because I feel like this is the only 5* I'll get in a while so why not go the extra mile?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 26, 2016, 09:37:03 am
...Oh hey Beowulf. I was not expecting you to appear from that ticket. Not that I mind, in fact welcome!

Anyway, currently at floor 5, after beating Artoria Alter Lancer. I suppose we will be able to officially get Shiki Assassin after we reach the last floor. It's 8 floors so far, and you need to beat the X04 floor of each building to advance. For what I'm reading, the 6th floor is the best place to farm event items.

Edit: So I just encountered three ghosts with 666666HP, that healed 10000HP with a skill. I was obviously warned about this encounter, so I proceeded to use one CS to the Shiki Void guest to fill her NP instantly. It instantly killed the entire enemy party. So cool.

Soooo, what does the key that you gain here do exactly?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 26, 2016, 04:33:09 pm
You don't really need to waste a CS for Shiki, just fill it naturally, the ghosts don't deal enough damage to kill her or most others (just use a dodge or revive master skill when they all get their NP charge)

The key is for mission 98 it seems.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 26, 2016, 04:35:26 pm
Oh I see. So I guess I won't be able to trade it until much later.

Btw, 200 ghosts is what you'll have to kill to get Shiki. 200 ghosts. I mean, sure, I had the ghost spawn at 100% and used the best mission to farm them, but wow it took some time to get.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 26, 2016, 04:40:09 pm
I'm on the 200 skeletons, also not cool. Then there's 200 zombies, and the ghost girls, the dolls... That's quite a shitty forced grinding, with at best 16 of a given type (if you pick the right mission and have 4 rate up CEs) per mission and 20 ap cost per mission.
Oh, and Saber Shiki's instant kill has already failed 4 times out of 4 on room 603 Mordred. So fuck that. I just go full max stat Herk and Nine Lives Buster Brave that shit now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 26, 2016, 04:54:45 pm
Once you have the first skill at level 10, you should start seeing more successes... unless you already have it.

Also, LOL wtf happened in the Lu Bu and Frankenstein episode?
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 26, 2016, 06:43:01 pm
Fran is mad at Tesla because he was doing some experiment in his room, exhilarated at the ability to read a book under a light powered by electricity, grabbed Fran while she was passing by, tried to push 500 watts to see what it would do, and blew all the lights (probably the generator as well) with a System Keraunos. He still thinks it's genius and he learned some more - electricity is precious. Problem is, it apparently fucked up with Fran's system and she can't cool down (IIRC she expels excess power through her maiden whatchamacallit big hammer with a lightning blast, and she can't do that). Basically her circuit breaker is fucking up all the time, so please do something ?? (that's Shiki translating here because she found a memo)
Lu Bu is sticking around trying to help her because she reminds him of his daughter. He's not mad. Except he goes Super Saiyan 3 because there's no way a parent wouldn't be mad if his daughter is crying.
After the fight, you promise Fran that you'll keep an electricity preserving day around (I mean, like, national light saving day, you know), or (alternate choice) that you'll have the doctor (I assume that's Tesla) give her a lightning pole as a present.
After Lu and Fran disappear, Roman pops up and says Fran just told him to turn everything off when he's just fooling around to preserve electricity. Roman didn't agree to this, and at least do a proper shutdown ! (he disappears right then, maybe Fran pulled the plug like a brute)

By the way, the whole mansion belongs to the Ryougi family, that's why Shiki suddenly turns into a landlady with a pretty kimono. This whole thing is her place, apparently (that's where she got the note from or something).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 26, 2016, 09:31:11 pm
LOL, so that happened. I just saw him turn to Super Saiyan 3 as you mention, and that the whole scene, for the little amount I could understand, didn't feel like they were taking this seriously unlike the previous floors. Captain Nikola messing with Fran is a really funny concept, I hope there's more interactions between the two.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 26, 2016, 09:54:31 pm
He wasn't really messing with her (it's not like he yanked her out of the corridor, it looks like she was curious / worried about what he was doing), it's more like wrong spot wrong time, she was dragged into the blast, and she got mad because he blew out so much electricity. Given her reaction to saving power, she must not like him very much in the first place.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 27, 2016, 11:10:04 am
20 Rapunzels. 20 fucking Rapunzels in order to advance to the next floor. That means repeating the parking lot mission 20 times, since only one spawns in there.

Conclusion about this whole event. Farming for everything in the shop is extremely easy, as everything has a low cost. Missions? FML. If they pull this mission format again, please spare us from making us kill mobs if we want to go to the next floor.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 27, 2016, 11:20:16 am
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this event was made to deplete everyone's stock of apples.
It's like every event DW has a terrible idea.. remember the guerrilla quests from the Halloween event? Ugh...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 27, 2016, 04:39:23 pm
Yeah, that part in the Halloween event was also a stupid idea that went wrong because of the potato servers. Fortunately, in that case, since it forced them to change it.

So yeah, I'm in room 604 and the plot has gone from serious to joke after recruiting Shiki (in fact she joins Chaldea herself, I was honestly surprised about this). I liked the serious plot, so why suddenly change this...

Edit: Suddenly in room 801 the Honnouji screen event appears. WTF Nobunaga.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 27, 2016, 11:55:17 pm
Finally wrapped the Rapunzels earlier.
... Room 704. Cu Chulainn has set up a casino in his room and offers you to play cards, roulette, dice etc. Roman suspects he's using his druid skills to rig the dice. Well, you're glad it's not like in the CM, at least ! ... Cu says he kept quarreling with Scathach, he told her to act her age, she got super pissed. Then another time, she got in the middle of Fergus, Ferdiad and 20 other guys, and said "let's do this, all of you try to kill me or die." They managed to take her down (otherwise they'd be gone long before becoming Heroic Spirits), but that didn't hold. She praised them, and went all "well done you fools. But... This isn't even my final form !" and then they all got tossed away.
... Anyway after he lost against Scathach he ended up here and he's been hiding ever since.
... And then Scathach comes up. With her ninja mask. (Mashu) "I- is that you, master Scathach ?" "Too bad, I'm not the strongest and most beautiful woman warrior of the Celts. I'm a nameless kunoichi lurking in the dark." (Roman) "Yeah, I guess this is Japan..."
Scathach says Cu will die, and then die a second and a third time in one day. Cu puts his hood back up and goes NOPE I do not know you ma'am, I have no idea who you are, there is no one named Cu Chulainn around here ! And you realize that the hood was a disguise.

... No, it doesn't say why the CM went that way just for this, but it jokes about it, which is basically telling you to go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 28, 2016, 12:02:57 am
Rapunzels were easyish, I stacked both Assassin and Saber Shiki's lines of death on her and for good measure I threw both NPs at her. Assassin's Shiki's IK procs more often (I guess it also helps a lot the fact that I upgraded Saber Shiki's first skill to LV10)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 28, 2016, 12:09:33 am
Yeah, they were fairly easy to kill (Nine Lives Buster Brave helps a lot when other NPs aren't enough), but I decided to stack Killer Rabbits of Caerbannog to spawn about 16 ghost girls and get a head start for the 200 ghost girls mission (I haven't even unlocked it yet but I have more than 200 killed already anyway). It just took an annoyingly long time to do 20 runs of it.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 28, 2016, 12:23:42 am
I barely finished the skeleton one, that was super annoying.
I should probably do the same and get a headstart on that... but I blew my cats on some other things I needed (Saber skill gems) so I can't buy the CE yet.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 28, 2016, 12:56:04 am
Nobu says she found this 1LDK apartment for 70k yen, close to the station etc., but she's cursed so it turned into Honnouji. Okita is her flatmate, which is nice because she gets a lot of Friend Points since she's cute like that -- Nobu doesn't, even though she's the bestest cutest of all, and by the time the event was over, there was nothing but Okita :( Mashu interrupts her like okay, you know, we're in a hurry here, right ? We have a question for Scathach. Nobu doesn't care and wants to turn this world into her own, and start a new event, leading to a "Nobu's world" movie release.
... God damnit, I shouldn't have brought Herakles in this fight >_< Anti-Divinity nearly one-shot him. Paid right back with a NLBB and wrapped up with Scathach by the third turn.
Also, "Oh, it's you, Mash- i mean boob Servant !" "You didn't have to correct yourself !" then when you win, "Farewell, Mash- I mean boob Servant."  "Oh come on !"
(Shiki) "... No really, who was that ?"
Okita comes, she was able to use Sandan zuki a lot, she was just down to the convenience store to buy ice cream "hey, where's Nobu ?" but just before you have time to feel really terrible, Nobu pops right back out "Right here !" and Shiki just wants that strawberry ice cream.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 28, 2016, 03:17:13 am
Rapunzels were easyish, I stacked both Assassin and Saber Shiki's lines of death on her and for good measure I threw both NPs at her. Assassin's Shiki's IK procs more often (I guess it also helps a lot the fact that I upgraded Saber Shiki's first skill to LV10)
Assasin Shiki's NP has a much higher instant death rate if the data on FGO is accurate. Not only that, but her skill also lowers the enemy's death resistance rate more than Saber Shiki.

I've tried some SShiki's as support (about 10 times), but their NPs have yet to kill a Rapunzel. 
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 28, 2016, 04:06:01 am
Leonidas room
seeing him lashing out all over the room and yelling DIE DIE DIE, Mashu can't believe a fellow shield holder could possibly be turned evil by the mansion, to the point she shouts "get out" at Roman, because Leonidas is a defender with such bravery, such devotion to protecting others that-- "ghoooosts ! Scary ! I came to help my fellow Heroic Spirits who were stuck here, but this is hell ! Go away, I'm not taking one step outside this room ! I can take any dragon you want, any man I can see, but ghosts ? No fucking way ! I keep swinging at them and everywhere I look, a new one comes out ! ... Oh, those look like my Master and Mashu. They want to see me at my weakest, those ghosts are so clever." *goes burning SSJ* "I'm so furious my hair is on fire !" (Roman) "Yeah, you were right Mashu, he hasn't been turned evil."

(.... yeah, I'm sure of it now, since this update to the new engine that broke emulators, if I play while my charger is plugged, it still drains my battery faster than it can recharge, so I have to stop playing for a while when I'm low, even if I'm still plugged... This is super consuming, especially when I'm not plugged, there's like 30% vanishing away in maybe an hour or so)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: S.D. on February 28, 2016, 07:15:49 am
Supposedly Memu runs pretty well, so if someone still needs an emulator, they should give it a try.
Rapunzels were easyish, I stacked both Assassin and Saber Shiki's lines of death on her and for good measure I threw both NPs at her. Assassin's Shiki's IK procs more often (I guess it also helps a lot the fact that I upgraded Saber Shiki's first skill to LV10)
Assasin Shiki's NP has a much higher instant death rate if the data on FGO is accurate. Not only that, but her skill also lowers the enemy's death resistance rate more than Saber Shiki.
That makes sense, it's probably the tradeoff of being AOE (Even though one is a premium servant and one is a free one, oh well, DW works in mysterious ways)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 28, 2016, 07:25:05 pm
Keep in mind that premium Servants can get a chance to get their NP or skills upgraded, unlike free ones. Honestly, I like Shiki Assassin a lot more, so not getting Saber Shiki is something I really don't care at all, unlike missing Okita.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 28, 2016, 09:20:28 pm
That makes sense, it's probably the tradeoff of being AOE (Even though one is a premium servant and one is a free one, oh well, DW works in mysterious ways)
IKR? Most mobas would just make Saber Shiki an all-around superior version to Assasin Shiki. Boooring.

Saber Shiki's still has to get her interlude, though (free servants don't get them, do they?) so DW will either buff her NP or her eyes skill.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 29, 2016, 12:34:02 am
That makes sense, it's probably the tradeoff of being AOE (Even though one is a premium servant and one is a free one, oh well, DW works in mysterious ways)
IKR? Most mobas would just make Saber Shiki an all-around superior version to Assasin Shiki. Boooring.

Saber Shiki's still has to get her interlude, though (free servants don't get them, do they?) so DW will either buff her NP or her eyes skill.

The only event 4* (if you want to call her that) that has an interlude is Saber Lily.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 29, 2016, 01:20:25 am
Most of the time you might as well say that the free Servant's interlude is the event itself.

This is the first time I'm actually finishing the event AND emptying the shop before the first week. The grinding 200 enemies of each type was irritating, but it was bountiful. No way I'm grinding this again and finishing it on my alt though, meaning, as usual, my alt won't have a chance to ever get the final ascension item for the free Servant. I guess the free 4* Servants are still worthless to casuals who just play the game for a bit of fun but don't want to grind.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on February 29, 2016, 02:29:12 am
The "kill 200 x" missions aren't that bad imo (except zombies), 'cause you invariably get good shit from them; I farmed some 1,500 black cats while killing apparitions in the parking lot.

Servant missions on the other hand are a pain in the ass. Sure, there' s a lot of overlapping like Medusa being a RIDER/FEMALE/DIVINE but that's still a lot grinding considering you only get to kill 1 at the time instead of 10~16.

I wish the store would let you change items both ways (black cat > ice cream and not just the other way around).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 29, 2016, 04:09:03 am
This is the first time I'm actually finishing the event AND emptying the shop before the first week. The grinding 200 enemies of each type was irritating, but it was bountiful.

Same. The grind may be annoying if you're not doing this while multitasking or at work but I definitely would not mind an event like this every 3 months or so to "refill the coffers" as it were. A ton of my servants are finally gonna be hitting their next ascension or buffing skills thanks to this event.

And the concept of an event basically forcing you to level up the free servant so they can be viable as soon as the event is over is something I definitely want to see carried forward.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on February 29, 2016, 08:29:22 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcXYDJgWwAAugmx.jpg:large)

And now to wait and farm.......

I just hope missions 98 and 99 will be simple.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 29, 2016, 11:31:05 am
WTF, I was kicked out in order to do a sudden update in the game.

Also, I'm like you at the moment. Right now I'm basically getting all the skill gems I'm interested in getting, but once I'm done, I will go and level up my new Servants. And with a surplus of apples too, so yeah, I'm ready for whatever they do next.

Btw, for mission 98, if you have already killed those high HP ghosts, then you'll be able to claim the prize the moment it becomes available.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on February 29, 2016, 11:34:11 am
Oh, we're getting 10 apples because a whole bunch of Servants got a fix on their interlude about the "recommended level" text and a change in the consumption of AP.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 29, 2016, 11:56:45 pm
Sorta related to Fate/Grand Order, here's its anthology.

http://imgur.com/a/gOvE4

Some of the stories are quite interesting.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 02, 2016, 05:16:28 pm
"Wait and hope" woah, Monte Cristo is Solomon's buddy, the black shadow (though he says they're related, he's following his lead, but they're not the same, he doesn't want to end humanity, leaving doubts that he might not be bad). It also increases his chances at being an Avenger since Mashu couldn't read his class, unless he's just Beast like the demon pillars (wouldn't guess that though)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 02, 2016, 05:35:36 pm
Are you talking about the shadow that appears in the Incinerated Remains?

Btw, there are two bosses in the final mission, according to reddit (can't play until 5 hours later). One is anothert huge ghost. The other is Artoria Saber because the CM says so.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 02, 2016, 05:46:28 pm
You have the key, mission 98 unlocks and solves itself immediately, collect it to open the rooftop. See the shadw guy (Monty), fight the giant ghost. Collect the last Lore, then the rooftop is still open with an extra quest - Arturia.
Lost a couple guys for both fights but didn't waste any cs. Golden Spark, Nine Lives, then Nine Lives again killed Arturia before her second Excalibur. Ghost is unchanged - maybe a bit stronger but Herkazerk is even more tsuyoi (I took the wrong team and brought Hassan and Sasaki as backup,  but they gave out stars for Herk to wreck shit up)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 02, 2016, 06:02:56 pm
Oh, so El Conde de Monte Cristo appears at the top. It's the same shadow that appears in the Incinerated Remains, no?

Guess I will go and make Beowulf stronger before attempting this myself. I hope the guy that has that lvl 10 Mostruous Strenght lvl 3 NP Kintoki appears in my friend list instead of worthless Scathach.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 02, 2016, 08:00:34 pm
It's the same shadow that appears in the Incinerated Remains, no?
Yeah, same guy.

You get to a door that wasn't there before, open it with the key, get on the roof. He shows up, says he's doing this for the king of magecraft (so Solomon), he talks about the island of despair, the prison tower, the treasure castle (btw he calls the mansion a tower too), Mashu calls him a Heroic Spirit that must not exist in this world (I assume because he's an Avenger and she can't read that), he says dead spirits and heroic spirits are just the same, casting a curse on the world. Ghost shows up, Mashu thinks there was "another one", the Count says it's not that there was one, it's that it didn't disappear, because it's a curse. A system of curse that is completed. The debt of humanity that the King of Magecraft forced on him. As long as there are people, there will be resentment, murders, and the hate from those victims keep the cycle going for ever in an eternal hell. An indestructible image, basically a god.
Enter Shiki who can kill even a god as long as it's alive, because everything has an end, even if people see it as immortal just because it has lived thousands and millions of years.

After the fight, the Count tries running to jump off the building, Shiki starts following. Roman interrupts, says the guy is just a shadow and even if she kills that shadow, she'll do nothing to the real one (he noticed the guy wasn't really there because there's little spirit reaction on his radar from his end) and she'll go splat at the bottom of the building (though her eye might kill the real one if she hits the shadow ?). Shiki... throws her second knife and kills the shadow.
The shadow says he was just an illusion but he still gets killed, so his work is done, Roman tries to ask who put him up to this, the shadow (while disappearing) says this should be obvious (... so Solomon). Solomon did this because he thought it'd be fun to make this tower as a new singularity. Still, the shadow and Solomon have a different goal. The shadow lives with love and hate, but he was different from that man's true nature. He (the shadow) has no reason to lend a hand to someone who holds no malice or grudge, so he rejected his request. What he's doing right here is acting out of his own nature, and giving Servants a chance for revenge. ... Then he quotes something "Tiger, roar, now is the time to hunt your prey" that I can't find where it's from.
Roman is also confused at the "someone who isn't holding a grudge", and asks what's the point of burning human history away, but the shadow says that's yours to find out, he has no interest in that. Just before he finally disappears, you ask him who he is, he says he doesn't have any reason to answer that but he'll just say one thing - wait. And hope. So quoting Monte Cristo.

Shiki says she doesn't care, because, Mashu, do you know why people seek revenge ? Mashu says she's never pondered about that. Shiki says it's because people are betrayed by those they love, hence they hate. They wouldn't care if it was from someone they didn't give two shits about. So doesn't that mean this shadow guy really loved humanity ? Love is born from hate, and hate is born from love.
"And then the culprit was Roman !" inserting another meme from when the Internet suspected Roman was Solomon.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on March 02, 2016, 08:33:40 pm
The giant ghost's still vulnerable to instant death. Oh, if only there was a servant with a reliable ohko who could overcharge his or her np gauge really fast!

Gonna wait for my seals to recharge before trying to face Arturia 'cause I don't have any strong archer.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on March 02, 2016, 09:05:09 pm
Had to waste my seals for NP purposes against Arturia, it wasn't fun, but at least I had a reason to use MHX (again)
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 02, 2016, 11:22:36 pm
Ffs, there's only Saber Shikis in the goddamn friend list. Please guys, put something else that can help me against Artoria for my sake.

Edit: Err... was it really that tough the fight against Artoria? I completely obliterated her. I didn't even let her use her Noble Phantasm once. Well, I admit having a Gilgamesh as a support with the 2030 CE made him a beast with those crits. And I was really lucky with the debuffs hitting (with that I mean Robin Hood's attack debuff and Euryale's Vampirism). Oh well, now I'm really done with this event.

And to celebrate, I got the Mona Lisa CE. After limiting to an amount the contents of the shop, I have too many Mana Prisms that I have no use for.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 03, 2016, 01:38:47 am
Just rejoice that you won't need to worry about next month's refill of 4* EXP and Fous !
I've been thinking, up until now, the story and events has tried to have some good twists (we did expect this event to be a joke because it was presented as "collaboration" but suddenly Avenger, death, gods and curses, and Shiki as a perfect fit for the whole story), but everyone keeps guessing exactly what's coming. Everyone saw the Saber Shiki 5* coming, we were talking about Avenger Edmond Dantes just two weeks ago (I figured he'd be one of the rare throwaway 2* to come like Kotaro and Chiyome but now he's definitely gonna hit 4*), Solomon back in Rome...

Yeah, Gilgamesh with constant crits is quad damage, of course that'll drain her 500k HP fast :P
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on March 03, 2016, 03:07:08 am
Ffs, there's only Saber Shikis in the goddamn friend list. Please guys, put something else that can help me against Artoria for my sake.

Edit: Err... was it really that tough the fight against Artoria? I completely obliterated her. I didn't even let her use her Noble Phantasm once. Well, I admit having a Gilgamesh as a support with the 2030 CE made him a beast with those crits. And I was really lucky with the debuffs hitting (with that I mean Robin Hood's attack debuff and Euryale's Vampirism). Oh well, now I'm really done with this event.

And to celebrate, I got the Mona Lisa CE. After limiting to an amount the contents of the shop, I have too many Mana Prisms that I have no use for.

Eh I was mostly using my own Mordred, Waver, and MHX, since Modoredo does extra damage to Arturia and we all know MHX's deal.
Well I didn't let her use Excalibur so that's alright I guess.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 03, 2016, 09:30:08 am
Just rejoice that you won't need to worry about next month's refill of 4* EXP and Fous !
I've been thinking, up until now, the story and events has tried to have some good twists (we did expect this event to be a joke because it was presented as "collaboration" but suddenly Avenger, death, gods and curses, and Shiki as a perfect fit for the whole story), but everyone keeps guessing exactly what's coming. Everyone saw the Saber Shiki 5* coming, we were talking about Avenger Edmond Dantes just two weeks ago (I figured he'd be one of the rare throwaway 2* to come like Kotaro and Chiyome but now he's definitely gonna hit 4*), Solomon back in Rome...

Yeah, Gilgamesh with constant crits is quad damage, of course that'll drain her 500k HP fast :P

I have 500 Mana Prisms left, and a whole month ahead to worry since I depleted the shop. Unless they suddenly change the shop, I doubt I will need more than that. And yeah, Gilgamesh is a beast, and having a NP 5 Robin Hood helps a lot too.

And as for predictions, well, the Saber Shiki was obvious to see given their love to put different versions of the same Servant in the game, and Saber Shiki was probably the best excuse for making us waste money. I don't remember the references to Edmond Dantes and Solomon, but if people can already guess what Nasu will write, guess he's starting to be a bit too predictable. I do admit that this event has surprised me so far, the appearance of Edmond Dantes and the serious plot was the last thing I was expecting.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 03, 2016, 11:14:46 am
Solomon was the 72 demons and Roman insisting "I can't believe it would be him ! We must be missing something !" and it was him. Dantes was datamined and we were discussing alt classes and avenger seemed a better fit than anything else.

edit - oh yeah, first skill to lv10 (Herk's ATK boost) and god damn 10M QP. Still gotta farm the Parking Lot for cats to exchange for QP.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on March 03, 2016, 09:12:44 pm
Nailed it.
(http://i.imgur.com/a9El6L9.jpg)

I'll wait to see if the next gacha is interesting (if America isn't up by then).

As much as I like Void Shiki, I already have good Sabers (hilariously enough, they're Saberfaces).
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 04, 2016, 09:07:51 am
Chapter 5 announced to come late March to early April:

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/48w757/incoming_ch_5_update_rough_tl/

That means there's probably a chance there's some small event happening before this one.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on March 07, 2016, 12:03:05 pm
http://news.fate-go.jp/2016/qbnxd/
Increased rates for Shirou Kotomine, Astolfo, Shota Gil,, Waver, Tesla, and Vlad

Also higher difficulty quests event (only if you cleared London) and 1/2 AP for all story quests.

https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/49c3sn/upcoming_caldea_boys_collection_2016_pickup/
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 07, 2016, 12:39:06 pm
As I thought, a new event. And since I didn't roll any quartz at all in the Shiki event, I have enough for a 10-roll. Planning to roll in the Waver rate up, since he's the best support one can get so far.

This new Servants again prove that the datamined info was wrong about the star levels. I was expecting Astolfo to be a 5*, but it's a 4*. Thank god to that. Though I'm not sure if I want yet another Rider. The Sunday ticket got me a Martha, so right now I have all the Riders that exist in the game. I seriously don't need another one.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on March 07, 2016, 01:08:46 pm
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Tesla, Vlad, Waver rate ups
*sigh* Should've saved at least some tickets.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 07, 2016, 01:16:10 pm
Different days. Amakusa all week, Vlad on the 11th, then Waver, and Tesla.
Ko-Gil 3*, acceptable.

Wait wow wow wow what the fuck are those CEs
Kiss your hand : 10% up to all 3 card types
Teacher and me : 50% np gauge on start + 300% star attraction up
Versus : 80% attack up, 40% def up against divinity for 3 turns
4 under the moon : np rate 12% up, star gen 12% up, 200 heal per turn
Glassful (graceful ?) sweet time : sure hit, damage dealt +400, damage received cut by 200
Noisy obsession : crit & np pow up 15%, charm chance 12% up

Lot of strong stuff for once

And lol the last 3* prince of slayer with Siegfried and Sasaki
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 07, 2016, 07:41:13 pm
We can get one of those CE for free using a ticket we will be given in the event. I wonder which is the best to get for this event.

Edit: Event's here. You get a chance to try the three new Servants, and you get a few monuments and pieces and a ticket. That's all. The ticket that gives you a free CE will be given tomorrow.

Also, Diarmuid, Beowulf and Medea Lily have now Interlude quests, so if you have any of them, you can complete them to upgrade their Noble Phantasms. I have the first two and they're quite easy. That, or I'm overpowered which is not wrong.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 09, 2016, 07:36:33 pm
After beating the two of them
Ko-Gil : "beating up a child is unbecoming of an adult !"
Amakusa : "beating up a holy person is unbecoming of an adult."
Haha those two assholes.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 09, 2016, 08:34:32 pm
So let's describe the new Servants, this is what I tested so far.

- Astolfo: And here I thought nobody would surpass Atalanta in her terrible NP generation rate. Astolfo is even worse. How is this even possible... 1% increase for being hit, WTF. First and second skill are attack buff to self and stun. Not bad, but third skill is crit damage increase and creating an amount of stars per turn... which has a random chance to fail triggering WTF. NP gives him dodge for three attacks and a few amount of stars, apart from ignoring defense buffs... some people seem to think that the dodge is a good thing, but Cu and Hassan can have the same and it's just a skill. So yeah, Astolfo is not a really good Rider, Marie is in fact better IMO because she can survive longer and has far better NP rate and star rate than him (plus her NP helps the whole party).

- Kogil: He's a really good poor man's Archer for dealing with mobs. As he's a 3* getting his NP at 5 is not a daunting task, unlike original Gilgamesh. Has Charisma A+, a (worthless) charm skill against humanoids and Golden Rule. Surprisingly, his animations are better than Gilgamesh LOL. Really, he's the best and most realistic option to aim IMO.

- Amakusa Shirou: an offensive Ruler, unlike Jeanne whose whole purpose is to support the party by spamming her wonderful NP. Has Revelation and Divine Judgment like Jeanne, with the only different skill one that gives him NP every turn, up to five IIRC. Level 1 gave me 10% each turn. Not bad, honestly. His NP disables buffs before inflicting damage, I was able to experience that unfortunately. Honestly though, Jeanne is much better IMO for the whole fact that she has an easier time filling her NP unlike him, as far as I tested.

tl;dr Aim for Kogil, and Amakusa in case you want an offensive Ruler. Astolfo just for fanservice. Honestly, Kogil is probably the only reason I would roll in this event. I really don't want to waste my quartz here, so I will go for some few YOLO rolls then give up. Obviously in the Waver rate up day.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Speedpreacher on March 09, 2016, 09:01:37 pm
Yeah I wasn't blown away by any of them

I think I'll save my quartz
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on March 13, 2016, 08:08:30 pm
We all got 10 quartz in the mail, apparently. Anyone know why?

EDIT: I believe it's White Day in Japan right now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 14, 2016, 11:20:05 am
The info on the new event is up. 5* Avenger Edmond Dantes, NP is Enfer Chateau d'If, wave damage, def down, curse. Design is kinda cool (in an edgy way) except he looks way too young.
you wake up and Chaldea has turned into the prison tower ! It's prison break time.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 14, 2016, 12:39:22 pm
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/4acix8/new_event_details/

Yep, pretty much what you said. If only he had been a free Servant... oh well, guess I will use the tickets I will get during this event for this.

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Unrelated to FGO, but we finally know the game they wanted to announce.

http://fate-extella.jp/

Once we get more info from the Famitsu article, I will consider opening a new thread for this game. It's an action style game, exclusive for PSVita and PS4.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 15, 2016, 04:07:28 pm
No buy if it's less than 10 Servants. My hope list for a Fate Musou is around 80 ATM.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 15, 2016, 04:55:55 pm
the senran kagura people might be involved, marvelous was mentioned and the senran guys are "only" working on that musou game that shoudl hve been released by now but got postponed to add some improvements.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 15, 2016, 08:01:40 pm
So far Nero, Tamamo and Altera/Attila are confirmed. Attila's artist is Wada in this game, btw.

I'm hoping Kiyohime will appear. Musou games have proven that someone with a fan has no trouble fighting against tons of enemies. Plus she's one of the few Berserker Servants (alongside Beowulf and Vlad) that can strike a normal conversation, so if they go for all classes then maybe they're interested that the Berserker class can properly communicate.

Though if we go by most likely, we will probably get Elizabeth as the Lancer Servant that will appear. Apart from adding EMIYA and maybe Gil. Honestly, I want to see UBW working against an army. I've already seen how Enuma Elish works against an army in Fate/Zero, so I won't miss him honestly. Though his huge arsenal of attacks makes it really easy to bring him in this game.

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Images:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 15, 2016, 11:51:50 pm
models look vita/senran kagura quality, which hopefully means they'll be making a lot of servants.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on March 16, 2016, 09:22:47 am
Turns out the datamines were slightly incorrect. Avenger class has no weaknesses.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 16, 2016, 10:24:37 am
Well, that makes them better I guess. They also have a minor worthless NP regeneration as class skill, as far as I tested.

I have to say though, I really dislike The Count's design. Even though Avenger's can now be a really good class, I will only waste one ticket in this gatcha. Not really worth it honestly.

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Oh hey, Florence Nightingale is another Servant that appears in this event. Maybe we will be able to get her. If so I'm not going to waste my tickets at all.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Foobs on March 16, 2016, 12:56:43 pm
The Count's animations are nice, his NP is cool, he turned out no to suck, but he's too fucking edgy. Would it kill him to actually face his enemies? Kinda reminds me of that bug where Arjuna's faced the wrong way after using his NP.
Turns out the datamines were slightly incorrect. Avenger class has no weaknesses.
That was probably no mistake on the dataminer's side but a ninja patch on this update.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 16, 2016, 03:42:24 pm
Yeah, after the fast massive datamines they removed all the information not yet used, I'm pretty sure Avenger info was part of it and they changed it and released it just now.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 16, 2016, 05:14:51 pm
With weaknesses against any class other than Shielder and Ruler, he would have been a really useless Servant honestly. Unless I recall correctly and that's not the weaknesses it had.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Byakko on March 17, 2016, 04:47:38 pm
Huh. Yesterday they said the guys you fought were deformations (demonized versions or something) of your actual Servants, but not really them. Except you keep running into them as you wake up. Today, Roman and Mashu suspect Fergus knows something but he says he doesn't. Now, after you beat Gilles, he says he's sorry that this fragment of himself gave you trouble and he is unable to save you (talking like he's the real one even though you're still locked in your dream) but you're still going strong and you'll get out soon. Oh, and "I'm sure the light of my holy maiden is waiting for you at the end" (or something close, I skipped too quickly). Yeah, I'm sure she is...

edit - ah, the Gilles after the fight is indeed at Chaldea, I missed the room background on my phone. But yeah, he does know about the fragment of himself that just bothered you. And he says your soul is shining so bright with no equal so don't worry, you'll get out of it, and since you're still forgiving him, you must totally have the divine benediction of his holy maiden.
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 18, 2016, 08:29:20 am
I believe Gilles' sin in the event was Sloth, referencing the fact that he was a well-known Christian and supporter of Jeanne d'Arc, that turned into Blue Beard after she died. Fergus was Lust because... well, it's Fergus so it's easy to see (in the event he tried to rape that "Mercedes" Servant). Phantom was Envy, but I still don't know why he is that sin.

Btw guys, do you know a good place to farm bones, and with that I mean that they drop frequently? The event gave me quite a lot, but ffs I need a lot more if I want Beowulf to reach the last ascension. And I'm quite sure they will be adding Rulers in one of the quests, so having him at level 80 is something I will certainly appreciate.

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...Oh hey, the soldier accompanying Jeanne and Gilles in the fight can inflict Taunt on one of your Servants, so they only target said Servant. Poor Beowulf was only able to use his NP in that part and that's it...

And seriously, your own Saber Gilles may suck, but as an enemy Servant, his NP gives him an assured critical hit in all of his attacks until the buff ends. Or at least, increases the chance to inflict it by a really noticeable amount. It's a pity you can't experience the same...
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Shinzaki on March 19, 2016, 04:42:10 pm
Enemy Classes: Berserker, Lancer, Assassin
Wave 1: Lancer Homunculi (Both should be easy to kill so I won't list their HP)
Wave 2: 2 Dolls (80k HP) + Lancer Homunculi (115112 HP)
Wave 3: Caligula (254797 HP) + 2 Lancer Homunculi (67389 HP)
Drops: 5 Homunculus Embryos, 2 Gears, 1 Berserker Monument
Title: Re: Fate/Grand Order
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on March 19, 2016, 05:37:32 pm
There's a serious talk between you and Caligula before the fight, in which Caligula seems not to be under Mad Enhancement effects during it. And then you're forced to fight him (his sin is Gluttony btw).

The sin in the pre