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Title: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Bob8644 on November 09, 2016, 02:52:04 am
holy shit florida
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 03:12:01 am
See the downfall of western civilization in real time!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2016/nov/08/us-election-2016-results-live-clinton-trump?view=map&type=presidential
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jesuszilla on November 09, 2016, 04:26:57 am
The Guardian is a shit site, try this:

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 05:19:06 am
http://archive.is/4NMZn

Canadia's a cool place to live.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 05:19:46 am
As of this post the NYT is giving Mein Drumpf a 95% chance of winning. Ninety five per cent. Jesus, I should have gambled on Trump. The odds favored Shillary so much that whoever bet on Trump is getting several times his investment tomorrow.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 09, 2016, 06:03:27 am
All the strides forward made in the last 8 years, wiped away in an instant. All the problems that have yet to be addressed, now have no hope of being solved. The great existential threat that is global warming, which already needed a serious, nigh-miraculous undertaking to even hope to stem some of the damage of, will now be dismissed utterly. The Supreme Court will be locked down for another generation or two by hateful bigots in the mold of Scalia. An executive branch run primarily by one of the most homophobic politicians in America. The mind boggles.

A Republican House. A Republican Senate. And a Republican President, whose first order of business will be to appoint a Supreme Court justice. There is nothing else in my life that I can recall that has ever been as terrifying.

Hate won tonight. Virulent, horrific hate of the other.

I fear for my own future. (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/08/homophobic-attacks-double-after-brexit-vote) I fear for the future of us all.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: MellyInChains on November 09, 2016, 06:11:01 am
i'm so glad the guy who thinks cuckoo's nest-esque therapy on account of being gay and trans is a great idea has a secure spot in the most powerful building in this country and that my gf and i would both be candidates if it were ever be put into motion

yep. it's so great
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 06:13:08 am
Look at bright side. The Republicans won't kill gay marriage. Try as they might, they won't kill ACA either. 4 years from now there won't be a wall surrounding Mexico and Washington will keep on bending itself to international trade. Once the Trump novelty is over Democrats can push for an actual lefwing politician that doesn't represent the absolute worst of their party.

...like they should've done with Bernie this time. Fuck the DNC.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: R565 on November 09, 2016, 06:20:21 am
All the strides forward made in the last 8 years, wiped away in an instant. All the problems that have yet to be addressed, now have no hope of being solved. The great existential threat that is global warming, which already needed a serious, nigh-miraculous undertaking to even hope to stem some of the damage of, will now be dismissed utterly. The Supreme Court will be locked down for another generation or two by hateful bigots in the mold of Scalia. An executive branch run primarily by one of the most homophobic politicians in America. The mind boggles.

A Republican House. A Republican Senate. And a Republican President, whose first order of business will be to appoint a Supreme Court justice. There is nothing else in my life that I can recall that has ever been as terrifying.

Hate won tonight. Virulent, horrific hate of the other.

I fear for my own future. (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/08/homophobic-attacks-double-after-brexit-vote) I fear for the future of us all.

Question is, what do we do now? The light of hope seems extinguished, and people truly have let hatred run their decisions. We are living in a absolute messed up world, and it seems like good people are a dying race. This my forum colleagues, is a shitty year. What would the Democratic party say? The Democratic party didn't screw Bernie, Bernie screwed Bernie. We needed a good Democratic party candidate and Bernie was our last bet. I voted Green this year, because they say something about giving a smaller party a money bonus? Because there was no way I was going to vote for any of those presidential parties, and I just hope the sting isn't as bad as people going to say.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: -Red- on November 09, 2016, 06:26:06 am
Look at bright side. The Republicans won't kill gay marriage. Try as they might, they won't kill ACA either. 4 years from now there won't be a wall surrounding Mexico and Washington will keep on bending itself to international trade. Once the Trump novelty is over Democrats can push for an actual lefwing politician that doesn't represent the absolute worst of their party.

...like they should've done with Bernie this time. Fuck the DNC.

Bush won twice so anything is possible really. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Trump ended up being reelected in 4 years.

USA was doomed no matter what anyway because both choices were awful (Basically pick your poison) but maybe this will end up convincing enough people to drop the two-party system before the next election... Although that implies the common people even have the power to do so to begin with :P
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 06:35:50 am
It's not the two party system. The greens and the libertarians are as whack as the democrats and republicans. It's the actual parties that need a purge. Believ it or not, the current party sytem does have its merits.

Oh also, Bush was a establishment republican whose views aligned almost perfectly with the party.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 06:38:33 am
The people have no power, the DNC told everyone who to vote for. Media was in on it too, hell the internet was bought out by the Democrats. Too bad for them it backfired so, progress? Nah.

They have no one else to blame but themselves for this shitshow. Congress' approval rating is at amazing 11%, and their response is... to shit on the general public and borderline brainwash them into selecting the person they don't want? Would've worked in the year 2000, but the information age doesn't make it that easy anymore.

Even sadder, their "chosen one" lost to a political virgin who has absolutely no idea how the hell world economics work, among other things. And will unquestionably bring the US dollar to a new low. But it was either that or mushroom clouds.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 09, 2016, 06:51:07 am
All the strides forward made in the last 8 years, wiped away in an instant. All the problems that have yet to be addressed, now have no hope of being solved. The great existential threat that is global warming, which already needed a serious, nigh-miraculous undertaking to even hope to stem some of the damage of, will now be dismissed utterly. The Supreme Court will be locked down for another generation or two by hateful bigots in the mold of Scalia. An executive branch run primarily by one of the most homophobic politicians in America. The mind boggles.

A Republican House. A Republican Senate. And a Republican President, whose first order of business will be to appoint a Supreme Court justice. There is nothing else in my life that I can recall that has ever been as terrifying.

Hate won tonight. Virulent, horrific hate of the other.

I fear for my own future. (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/08/homophobic-attacks-double-after-brexit-vote) I fear for the future of us all.

i'm so glad the guy who thinks cuckoo's nest-esque therapy on account of being gay and trans is a great idea has a secure spot in the most powerful building in this country and that my gf and i would both be candidates if it were ever be put into motion

yep. it's so great

I don't know what else to tell you except that I am so, so sorry.  We failed you.   
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 09, 2016, 06:53:50 am
Look at bright side. The Republicans won't kill gay marriage. Try as they might, they won't kill ACA either.
Marriage equality is unlikely to go away, but religious freedom bills will probably see their constitutionality affirmed by the Supreme Court. It was already a really shitty situation (a slight majority of states allow legal discrimination based on sexuality and/or gender identity), and now it's extremely likely that that will explicitly be enshrined into law.

Obamacare is already unpopular and Congress has tried every trick in the book in trying to throw it out. Sometimes the only thing that was preventing them from doing that was Obama's veto pen. That is now no longer an option.

Abortion rights have been slowly chipped away over the last few years. The issue will hit the Supreme Court very soon, and while Roe V. Wade is unlikely to be overturned, the horrific restrictions and limitations to abortion being put in place across the country will likely be enshrined into law.

And that's all the tip of the iceberg. This disaster is truly uncalculable.

Question is, what do we do now?
Vote. Vote in every election, from something as small as school boards to presidential races. Join groups advocating the causes you believe in. Donate. Protest. Organize.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 07:00:00 am
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Abortion rights have been slowly chipped away over the last few years. The issue will hit the Supreme Court very soon, and while Roe V. Wade is unlikely to be overturned, the horrific restrictions and limitations to abortion being put in place across the country will likely be enshrined into law.
Oh shit. The republicans have the seats to defund planed parenthood an do even worse now. That is pretty terrible, I concede.

Can they still kill Obamacare without the Supreme Court? 
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 09, 2016, 07:03:11 am
Yes. They've come very close a lot in the past two years, when both chambers of Congress went Republican.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Do not even ask on November 09, 2016, 07:31:50 am
Looking forward to Trump vs Yeezy in 2020
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 09, 2016, 07:38:21 am
If we're smarter we'll run Oprah
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 07:43:30 am
Versus Milo Yiannopoulos, I'd be for Celebrity Deathmatch every four years.

Government should be proud of themselves, they've turned the most prestigious position of American power into a punch line. But I'm sure they'll get those anti-establishment rebels to vote the "proper" candidates in 2020.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 09, 2016, 07:49:52 am
We'll see you guys hopefully without America being a burning, smoldering corpse in a couple months
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dumanios on November 09, 2016, 07:53:01 am


God help us.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 07:59:33 am
Versus Milo Yiannopoulos, I'd be for Celebrity Deathmatch every four years.
Now that American society has discovered meme magic nothing's impossible. I'm eagerly awaiting for Yiannopoulos's birthers.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Trololo on November 09, 2016, 08:42:58 am
I don't get it. Trump is leading, right? And SO WHAT? What's so problematic here?
I believe he will NEVER turn your goverment into OUR one. Believe me, you better to not know, what stupidity can do our dumBa. Everything BUT real work. EVERYTHING.
BTW, soon in Russia anime will become illegal. Just sayin', cause this is not even worst what me personally need to expect.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 09, 2016, 08:43:43 am
I don't get it. Trump is leading, right? And SO WHAT? What's so problematic here?

Why don't you go read Jmorphman and Melvana's posts and then tell me.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: The Answer on November 09, 2016, 08:49:08 am


WE WON AMERICA!! :D

Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Trololo on November 09, 2016, 08:52:53 am
I don't get it. Trump is leading, right? And SO WHAT? What's so problematic here?

Why don't you go read Jmorphman and Melvana's posts and then tell me.

I read some. No new answer from me. None of it is lethal.
Yes, maybe, if we're looking at still ongoing condition of USA, it MAY become worse than that. But once again, call yourself lucky.
At least you will not have a goverment of thiefs, sitting there from 90'ths and doing nothing but taking money and REAL pulling country into shit.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 09, 2016, 08:54:26 am
Don't tell me what's "lethal" or not.

Go fuck yourself.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 09, 2016, 08:57:26 am
I don't get it. Trump is leading, right? And SO WHAT? What's so problematic here?

Why don't you go read Jmorphman and Melvana's posts and then tell me.

I read some. No new answer from me. None of it is lethal.
Yes, maybe, if we're looking at still ongoing condition of USA, it MAY become worse than that. But once again, call yourself lucky.
At least you will not have a goverment of thiefs, sitting there from 90'ths and doing nothing but taking money and REAL pulling country into shit.

Dude, I REALLY don't think you understand.  Trump has already sworn to put in pure republican officials into senate positions, including people who will take away peoples' rights.  The value of MULTIPLE currencies has already fallen.  This man has been accused of rape and sexual assault, will be on trial this very month, and has PUBLICLY ADMITTED TO IT AND BRAGGED ABOUT IT ON CAMERA.  Maybe your government is worse, but that's not the point here.  This isn't a comparison of US government vs Russia's, this is about how terrible Trump is. 

And please ask yourself, if this is already going down hours before he even won the election officially, how bad do you think it's going to be as these next four years go on?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Amalgam of Gambling on November 09, 2016, 09:06:52 am
All I can say at this point is... hope those who voted for Trump don't regret their decision later.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 09:08:13 am
Trump isn't particularly homophobic but his VP, Pence, is a crazy fundie who's in for pray the gay away camps and against any sensible policy towards lgbt people. How much weight he'll have in the government and whether or not he'll be able to push his agenda is to be seen.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 09, 2016, 09:09:36 am
That's correct but Trump plans to appoint more senators and court members who hold extremist views, so he's definitely not helping.  That aside, you could take out every instance of homophobia from his camp and you would still have a mountain of other problems. 
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Trololo on November 09, 2016, 09:13:34 am
Yup, it's really going to be bad...
It seems I really misunderstood ya'll.
I'm sorry.
====================
P.S.; Jmorphman, lol.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 09:20:20 am
That's correct but Trump plans to appoint more senators and court members who hold extremist views, so he's definitely not helping.
He can't possibly pick someone more extreme than Scalia was. And even with him on board SCOTUS legalized same sex marriage. LGBT advocates are going to have some hard days ahead of them, but it's not like gays suddenly lost all their rights overnight.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 09, 2016, 09:36:10 am
I offer a quote by Benjamin from Animal Farm:
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Donkeys live a long time. None of you has ever seen a dead donkey.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 09, 2016, 10:38:20 am
This election wasn't anti-gay, racist, sexist, or in any way hate-driven. It was anti-the political elite. It was anti-corruption, and anti-media manipulation. It's unfortunate that the Supreme Court will be affected, but perhaps the Democrats shouldn't have lied, cheated, and showed such contempt for the people they were meant to represent.

You need a working democracy more than you need any given democratically-driven decision. If there are unwanted knock-on effects to a Trump presidency, you can fix it in four years. It'll actually work next time. Someone like Hillary won't be able to steal an election from someone like Bernie in anything like the near future, and money will be out of politics in several major, quantifiable ways. Also WW3 with Russia won't happen. That's nice too.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 09, 2016, 10:48:45 am
This election wasn't anti-gay, racist, sexist, or in any way hate-driven. It was anti-the political elite. It was anti-corruption, and anti-media manipulation. It's unfortunate that the Supreme Court will be affected, but perhaps the Democrats shouldn't have lied, cheated, and showed such contempt for the people they were meant to represent.

You need a working democracy more than you need any given democratically-driven decision. If there are unwanted knock-on effects to a Trump presidency, you can fix it in four years. It'll actually work next time. Someone like Hillary won't be able to steal an election from someone like Bernie in anything like the near future, and money will be out of politics in several major, quantifiable ways. Also WW3 with Russia won't happen. That's nice too.

Bull fucking shit.  You mean to tell me Trump supporters haven't been running around yelling CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK like a broken record for the last year?  Also uhhhhh.... (https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/796196763396780033)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Gritsmaster on November 09, 2016, 11:03:19 am
I really don't see what's so surprising about this.

Trump embodies everything America has had bubbling underneath, pardon me saying. His election is just undeniable proof of all we've known for a while -- in the first world, straight white male loud-mouthed privilege with tons of money and connections wins. Bottom line.

With his control over media attention and billions of dollars at his disposal, I honestly don't know why I ever doubted the grummy bastard in the first place. Now pardon me as I purchase a rifle and cuddle it to sleep in anticipation of WW3.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 09, 2016, 12:02:11 pm
I'm... not too surprised about these results, to be honest.

Trump is a boisterous idiot? Sure. But I know people who will take a boisterous idiot for a president than a corrupt politician. After all, I think, based on my observations this election year, the two things that could have pushed people over the edge to Trump's side were:

1.) allegations of illegal election activity by the Democrats (i.e. paying people to incite violence at Trump rallies, planning to get people to vote in states they are not residents of, etc.) as hinted on in the DNC email leaks and other sources like Project Veritas Action, and

2.) the mainstream media in general (with the exception of conservative sources like FOX to an extent) character assassinating Donald Trump while idolizing up Hilary Clinton ad nauseam.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Memo on November 09, 2016, 12:03:56 pm
Trump is the better of the 2, Hillary would get us into ww3  in Syria against Russia! Over some bullshit because the democrats want Assad out. How about we just work together and eliminate Isis and let Syria keep the president they
Elected. I dont get it how anybody would support Hillary, I get it that the gay and lbgt community would get more
rights and shit but you know what's more important? Preventing WW3 Is more important I want to live a lil bit longer
Not catch cancer from nuclear fallout
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 09, 2016, 12:10:14 pm
As somebody who lives in Spain and has read what Trump proposed to do, and the fact that he got majority in everything... well, let's hope history doesn't change much because he doesn't make half of what he said true. Let's just hope that. For the sake of everybody, specially all of you who live in America.

Also, didn't Trump say he was interesting in joining with Russia in order to deal with the nuclear issue in Islam? Details about this are quite fuzzy at the moment.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 12:16:52 pm
This election wasn't anti-gay, racist, sexist, or in any way hate-driven. It was anti-the political elite. It was anti-corruption, and anti-media manipulation.

The second part is right, but pandering is an effective part of all political campaigns. Just because there were valid reasons to vote Trump (and there most definitely were) doesn't suddenly mean that race signaling and other demographic lipservice isn't a central theme.

Btw the Democrats were doing it too, no one calls them out though because they're the more inclusive group. I was just as sickened hearing dumb shit like vote Hillary or you're a sexist shitbag. And Obama saying shit like blacks not voting her would be a personal insult; no Obama, you insulted everyone by betraying everyone's trust about change and political transparency. I also become ill at the sight of shitty logic like lumping all Trump supporters as hate filled, xenophobic bigots because it's a effortless deflector at talking about the real problems, and tells people that all you have to do is "believe in the right things" and throws all intellectual discussion out the window.

It's very effective too. Why talk about how shitty our foreign policy is, or how free trade exploits developing countries, decreases jobs and hurts the environment, the commoner doesn't understand that shit. But tap into their emotions about social issues (not belittling it's importance mind you, a conservative dominated House and Senate is all kinds of bad for social progression) and suddenly you have people paying attention.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 09, 2016, 12:22:19 pm
We'll see you guys hopefully without America being a burning, smoldering corpse in a couple months

Honestly, I'm kind of hoping that this is what happens at this point.  The fact that there are enough people who are stupid enough to willingly vote for a fascist blowhard like Trump pretty much proves that America has become a failed experiment.  Any country that willingly votes to be rule by hatred, racism, and fear-mongering out of protest to perceived political corruption doesn't need to exist anymore.  Just burn the whole fucking thing down.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 09, 2016, 12:37:45 pm
(http://dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/PatriotismPhoto2-1250x650.jpg)

Congratulations Donald Trump, you won.

Now don't disappoint your folk.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Gritsmaster on November 09, 2016, 12:49:17 pm
All in all, though, I really LOVE what Stephen Colbert had to say on the election's end. I'd recommend looking it up if you haven't seen it already.


This election has been downright poisonous. Never before have so many people been so volatile and hateful concerning an election. Both candidates were garbage, more qualified two-faced garbage vs. slightly more consistent racist garbage (y'all should've went with Bernie imho), and the fear from each side resulted in what can only be described as disgusting venom.

Hopefully now that a king of the trash has been decided the nation can just sit back and damage control, rather than hating and judging one another for preferring a gun to a noose.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 12:51:10 pm
PSA: calling every single Drumpf voter a misogynistic racist fascist ableist meany is precisely the fucking reason the man won in the first place.

Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 12:56:02 pm
The cruel irony is that an outcome like this is exactly what the founding fathers would want to see in Neo-England. Standing up to corrupt political practices and not letting government control everything they can get their hands on.

Would've been different if only the more progressive were allowed to vote like some people would like to have happened.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwzDY7vUQAANYUX.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 12:57:44 pm
^Huffpo? Nate Silver?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Masterhand128 on November 09, 2016, 01:00:44 pm
I really felt a big disappointment when I heard Trump won in the elections, I really don´t like his foreign policy because this could provoke a big international tension not only in the market, also in the policy and this could broke the relations between USA and EU.

The problem of the voters are they really don´t care about the hard consequences, they really wanted to expel to the illegals immigrants because they feel like these people are an "annoyance", specially the myth about "the immigrants steals their jobs", let´s remember USA is unfortunately considered one of the most racist countries of the world.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 09, 2016, 01:02:35 pm
Anyhow, congrats to Mr. Trump for his win. I hope he likes the new job. I hear that the job of being a President is a stressful one

PSA: calling every single Drumpf voter a misogynistic racist fascist ableist meany is precisely the fucking reason the man won in the first place.

I agree that this is also a factor. I think that the toxic behavior that some Hillary supporters and perhaps the media (as I stated before) have also driven people to vote for Trump if only out of spite.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 01:08:32 pm
^Huffpo? Nate Silver?

I know, not the best example, but it does highlight how narrative driven it all was.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 09, 2016, 01:13:23 pm
PSA: calling every single Drumpf voter a misogynistic racist fascist ableist meany is precisely the fucking reason the man won in the first place.

It's not an accusation that every person who voted for him is themselves a racist or a sexist, it's that they saw someone who very blatantly is those things and still chose to vote for him.  They saw a presidential candidate whose whole campaign was centered around disenfranchising Muslims, Hispanics, women, and LGBT citizens, who was caught on tape bragging about using his celebrity status to get away with committing sexual assault, who openly encourages violence against his political rivals, and thought to themselves "I'm okay with this.  This is acceptable for the leader of our nation."  While those voters might not openly endorse those particular views, their apathy in the face of all of it just as bad.

Just fuck this entire country.  Fuck the republicans for letting someone as toxic as Trump be their canidate, fuck the democrats for intentionally rigging the primaries against the only candidate who had a shot a beating him, and fuck the people for being too much of a bunch of gullible, apathetic cattle to stop any of this from happening.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 09, 2016, 01:19:05 pm
Maybe almost nobody but the lgbt community cared about it during this election. Maybe minorities are just minorities and these elections were about more important things for the majority of the Americans, like the hope to have more dollars in their bags and a better infrastructure. Maybe some were scared that an election of Clinton could mean a new confrontation, maybe even war with Russia.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: RMaster007 on November 09, 2016, 01:23:23 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/Co5OmgT.jpg) (http://lunapic.com)
I'm okay with this.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 01:26:27 pm
Also, didn't Trump say he was interesting in joining with Russia in order to deal with the nuclear issue in Islam? Details about this are quite fuzzy at the moment.

Yeah he wants to work with Russia in dealing with ISIS (an American creation btw thanks to garbage foreign policies) because believe it or not, Putin has to deal with terrorists too. He's been supporting Assad which of course sounds gross on the surface, but the alternative would be Syria becoming yet another failed city-state that gives rises to radicals destabilizing the country. Which is what Hillary would've done, Obama did to Libya, and Bush Jr did to Iraq.

You can't just remove a leader and expect pieces to stay in place when dealing with a completely different culture. But it's obvious they're not doing it out of pure goodwill.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Memo on November 09, 2016, 01:35:49 pm
Also, didn't Trump say he was interesting in joining with Russia in order to deal with the nuclear issue in Islam? Details about this are quite fuzzy at the moment.

Yeah he wants to work with Russia in dealing with ISIS (an American creation btw thanks to garbage foreign policies) because believe it or not, Putin has to deal with terrorists too. He's been supporting Assad which of course sounds gross on the surface, but the alternative would be Syria becoming yet another failed city-state that gives rises to radicals destabilizing the country. Which is what Hillary would've done, Obama did to Libya, and Bush Jr did to Iraq.

Amen that's one of the big reasons Clinton had to lose, do any of our Hillary supporters even care about this?
All I hear is how racist and sexist trump is, how about how corrupt Hillary has been during her whole political
Career? Benghazi, the Clinton foundation pay for play, deleting and lying about sending classified emails.
The Clintons are corrupt we don't need them in the white house again, trump knows
Theres corruption in dc and he wants to clean it up make America great again!
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 09, 2016, 01:48:05 pm
Not catch cancer from nuclear fallout
Because you're so confident that Trump won't use nukes
remember he repeatedly asked "but why aren't we just using nukes" in that one foreign affairs briefing.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on November 09, 2016, 01:51:28 pm
I will agree that Clinton is not a good candidate, but you don't deal with poison by switching to another poison. And at least Clinton didn't make some people feel scared of what the future awaits.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 09, 2016, 02:00:31 pm
I am damn sure Clinton scared Julian Assange about what waits for him in the future. The woman asked if they couldnt just "drone" him after all.

And yes..Clinton made people think about what might happen if the USA would go to war with Russia.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: D, The Red Cloak on November 09, 2016, 02:02:40 pm
I was watching multiple livestreams that lasted almost 8 hours nonstop, I was at the point where they were counting the votes in PA but I was exhausted to the point of seeing a black praying mantis with egyptian-styled human eyes standing on my computer. So I went to bed, only to wake up and hearing this about this, well... Let's say I have something that I didn't think I would use in case of this occasion.



Or if your not into anime.


To be completely honest, I was full out dreading, thinking so much that Hillary will win. I heard so much yesterday and the months leading up to it about how the elections would be / were being rigged for Hillary and how Hillary is pretty much the most corrupt candidate you can ever have. Yeah I'll admit Trump is a bit of a loud-mouthed prick, but at least he's actually genuine about how he feels and the establishment is genuinely scared of him.

That's pretty much why I haven't been very active here or why I didn't do my Remake project, I was stressed out to the point of anxiety attacks and I have to take medication. I was willing to drink booze until my liver died if Hillary won. I did not want to see a nuclear explosion near my house, or have a situation like what's going on in Europe right now, especially with Paris, Sweden & Germany where my family would get harassed and/or killed by people who have no respect for the West or the people living in it.

This definitely put my mind at ease and if I may indulge in a bit of vulgarity... (Holds up two middle fingers) Screw you Hillary and screw you Obama you lying, over-privileged, blisters in Satan's Asshole.

Now we just have to worry about Trump getting into an "accident" (Knocks on Wood).
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Chronan on November 09, 2016, 02:04:29 pm
I lay bedridden for nearly a month, my soul and health crushed under the weight of this worlds ills as well as my own, low energy. However as of this morning, by divine circumstance my vitality is restored as I bear witness to the Lord's miracle! By God's will a new savior is bestowed unto us sinful men. May he cleanse our sins by catapulting them over a BBW(big beautiful wall) and may he bare arms with Comrade Putin and together burn away ISIS in cleansing fire.

Hillary Clinton, you're fired.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: kakkoii superhero on November 09, 2016, 02:09:58 pm
Mike Ross lost
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Saint on November 09, 2016, 02:21:51 pm


We should have been more vigilant on the election by watching the simspsons
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 09, 2016, 02:30:44 pm
in the first world, straight white male loud-mouthed privilege with tons of money and connections wins. Bottom line.
both had tons of money and i'm pretty sure the one that held several different positions of power for decades had more connections, and she lost. are you kidding me with this shit
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 09, 2016, 02:32:08 pm
He's talking about the voters.
(I think)
It's not like Trump has such good connection, so it wouldn't make sense if he meant Trump himself.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 09, 2016, 02:33:05 pm
The posts droning on about nuclear attacks show exactly why he won. The dumber people are the more they listen to people spewing hate, its easy to use fear to control.

Now the states will have to deal with a president that has the full support of the KKK and a vice president that wants to setup conversion camps. Good job.


Had the DNC not been completely stupid pushing one of the most unpopular candidates they ever had while being caught repeatedly favoring her they might not have alienated as many voters as they had.

This ends up confirming the suspicions most countries already had about America and further pushes them from "joke" into "garbage fire". Lets see how the market reacts.

Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 09, 2016, 02:48:41 pm
This is exactly what happened. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fhGS0tAcQg)

So I wonder how long until impeachment.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 09, 2016, 02:52:02 pm
http://www.electproject.org/2016g

Turnout rate was 55 percent of the population.

Some reports are saying there were about 15k votes for Harambe. In some states, the votes for harambe wouldve been enough to turn the election around.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 09, 2016, 02:52:19 pm
Trumper went against the most corrupt,retarded and mischievous cunt in USA and still somehow managed to win.
Certain fucking voting machines defaulted Trump inputs to Hillary votes too and he still managed to fucking win
My dick is literally diamonds right now.Selling it on ebay as I type
I'm just so glad that someone who played fair managed to beat that lying cunt.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 09, 2016, 02:58:05 pm
Some reports are saying there were about 15k votes for Harambe. In some states, the votes for harambe wouldve been enough to turn the election around.
it's pointless to gripe about people that made joke votes. if they couldn't make joke votes then they probably wouldn't have voted, and if they made a serious vote it probably wouldn't have made a difference (votes would've been split on a similar proportion). same with griping about those that voted third party.

He's talking about the voters.
(I think)
It's not like Trump has such good connection, so it wouldn't make sense if he meant Trump himself.
maybe, but saying that this was because voters are white and have a lot of money and connections doesn't make a lot of sense either
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dumanios on November 09, 2016, 03:00:51 pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/magazine/the-supreme-court-ruled-that-voting-restrictions-were-a-bygone-problem-early-voting-results-suggest-otherwise.html

welp.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 09, 2016, 03:03:35 pm
Some reports are saying there were about 15k votes for Harambe. In some states, the votes for harambe wouldve been enough to turn the election around.
it's pointless to gripe about people that made joke votes. if they couldn't make joke votes then they probably wouldn't have voted, and if they made a serious vote it probably wouldn't have made a difference (votes would've been split on a similar proportion). same with griping about those that voted third party.


The main issue with their elections ( that was already an issue) is how they put everything in 1 vs 1 and left and right, anyone that isnt supported by the dnc or the gop are simply not considered. Its either one from those 2 parties or no one, and that leads to these douchebag and turd sandwich elections. So yeah I agree that joke votes arent that worrysome, but you'll see the people freaking out that didnt even leave the house to go vote now.
For some, it was more about posturing about their "Side" than voting.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Orochi Gill on November 09, 2016, 03:09:26 pm
Trumper went against the most corrupt,retarded and mischievous cunt in USA and still somehow managed to win.
Certain fucking voting machines defaulted Trump inputs to Hillary votes too and he still managed to fucking win
My dick is literally diamonds right now.Selling it on ebay as I type
I'm just so glad that someone who played fair managed to beat that lying cunt.

Careful with that edge.

Plus it's easy to say that when you didn't have to pick between that and an insane fuckface who might as well be running this place into the ground, who is also racist, mysoginist, and ultra-homophobic. Neither was exactly a great choice but the other wasn't going to try to revert this country to pre-Civil Rights movement south.

I live in a blue state BTW, and it goes blue every election. This time was no different.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 09, 2016, 03:31:02 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/KGZB03a.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Melcore on November 09, 2016, 03:39:31 pm
guys, guys!  :yuno:

an assassination attempt was made this morning!
(https://media.giphy.com/media/AIFMK09PsaLAY/giphy.gif)

he's currently in critical condition.  :gossip:
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 03:43:50 pm
rip, never got a chance to make anime real.

I'll never have my 765 harem now. (https://atlanticcenturion.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/maga-3.jpg)  :'(
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 09, 2016, 03:50:34 pm
Thats a legitimately good edit tbh
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: The Sudden Rarity on November 09, 2016, 03:52:37 pm
If conversion therapy becomes a reality, I'm going to be beyond pissed.  Those fucking camps traumatize children, teens and young adults, making them fear themselves and their urges.

Edit: I know that conversion camps exist, but if everything goes well for the Republicans, I fear for those of us that are LGBT, and the rest of America.  I want America to be great, I just don't want it to be 1950's "great".
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Do not even ask on November 09, 2016, 03:55:18 pm


hell yes best thing to come out of all this
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 09, 2016, 03:58:13 pm
For some, it was more about posturing about their "Side" than voting.

Our culture has been so stripped down to binary choices that this is the ultimate result

DNC has no gaems vs GOPbone

This is the tipping point and I can only hope it's to something better
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: The Sudden Rarity on November 09, 2016, 04:02:04 pm
For some, it was more about posturing about their "Side" than voting.

Our culture has been so stripped down to binary choices that this is the ultimate result

DNC has no gaems vs GOPbone

This is the tipping point and I can only hope it's to something better

Hopefully it'll be a good thing, but I'm still scared ^..^;;;
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 09, 2016, 04:10:17 pm
[youtube]lkn47VhXkbE[/youtube]

hell yes best thing to come out of all this
Nice spoilers fam
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 09, 2016, 04:15:07 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwyrNTDXAAI3nRb.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 09, 2016, 04:49:59 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwyrNTDXAAI3nRb.jpg)

And you are absolutely right.

America chose this when they decided to try and fight corruption with corruption. I'm not happy at all that Trump won, but after all the bullshit slander the Hilary side(as well as Obama) has done, who WOULDN'T have voted Trump?

Where the fuck was any of the goodwill in actually trying to get peoples' hopes up Democrats? I'm a Democrat and there was quite a few times even I wanted to vote Trump simply because of that slimy shit.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 04:55:39 pm
I should add that while I'm far from upset with the Presidential outcome, that it's absolutely awful to have to deal with a Republican dominated legislative branch. They don't deserve any praise whatsoever, they wanted yet another generational dumbass/puppet in office. Might have heard of a man named Jeb Bush, I think that's all you need to know. Never mind the social issues that they'll obviously manipulate in their favor.

Don't blame the voters though, village idiots voting merely for what they wanna hear will never change. All they do is egg people onto ignorant behavior that's brung out the worst (http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/vote-trump-painted-wall-fire-damaged-black-church-43245628) in both sides. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB91BBPt8g4) Blame the government: they're the ones that failed you.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 09, 2016, 05:05:28 pm
Wait,I thought the burnt church thing was done by Hillary supporters to further damage the overall image of Trump voters?
If I remember correctly,this led to Trump supporters raising around 100k bucks to fix it?
Commiting crime and then doing "Vote Trump" and expecting someone to actually vote for your candidate seems pretty counter productive tbh
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 05:12:29 pm
And most media outlets conveniently left out the donation part, totally unbiased reporter work there.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dead or Alive Fan on November 09, 2016, 05:32:59 pm
Just wondering if we really are going to pay for that wall around the border, we have the dumbest president in the whole history/world, knowing this am pretty sure that he will gonna obey Trump orders.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 地獄の花 on November 09, 2016, 06:02:55 pm
ha lol predicted it. cheers for the new emperor of united states of trump. in related news asian market went down today because of trump's victory.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 09, 2016, 07:01:19 pm
Quote
BAH GAWD!!! ITS BERNIE SANDERS!!!!! BERNIE SANDERS IS CASHING IN HIS MONEY IN THE BANK BRIEFCASE TO SAVE AMERICA!!!!!!!!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwyU_-TUUAAUvjR.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dumanios on November 09, 2016, 07:21:01 pm
Well now (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/omarosa-anti-trump-republicans-list?utm_content=buffer1b2fb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer).


Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: SlySuavity on November 09, 2016, 07:24:23 pm
Maybe next term, Harambe.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Kamekaze on November 09, 2016, 07:33:44 pm
Well that took no time at all. both racism and vandalism!

https://www.facebook.com/aisharwhite/posts/10101821183246288
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: morbidjoe on November 09, 2016, 07:36:00 pm
oh gawd
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: D00dman on November 09, 2016, 08:03:57 pm
I feel like Trump is not gonna make America a sitcom, it's gonna be a reality show -- but
even way worse.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 09, 2016, 08:06:36 pm
turning it into a reality show will be very easy considering all the shit the nsa set up lol
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 09, 2016, 08:08:36 pm
at least hillary won the popular vote.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 09, 2016, 08:31:35 pm
Well now (http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/omarosa-anti-trump-republicans-list?utm_content=buffer1b2fb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer).


Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Kasich and Graham will have to wait in line. The newly formed Drumpf Schutzstaffel has a bigger target to prioritize:

(http://i.imgur.com/PIOP8s5.png)
RIP Chris Chan.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 09, 2016, 08:39:16 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/eR6e97v.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: PineappleProducer on November 09, 2016, 08:56:31 pm
Man, there's some sore people up in here.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 09, 2016, 09:00:21 pm
Maybe now that Russia is ok with the USA they can teach y'all how to squat properly
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: HQ on November 09, 2016, 09:15:06 pm
I just read this article from Glenn Greenwald - yeah the guy who's a Pulitzer Price Winner for his work with the Guardian on the NSA leaks from Snowden. Judging by all recent elections in Europe I can only agree with his arguments. This is just the beginning. Austria's presidential election that will be (re-) held next month will most likely lead to the same result. Chaos here we come (and it is not Trumps fault - Hi establishment, you fucked up)

https://interc.pt/2ekJt9O (https://interc.pt/2ekJt9O)

"For many years, the U.S. — like the U.K. and other Western nations — has embarked on a course that virtually guaranteed a collapse of elite authority and internal implosion. From the invasion of Iraq to the 2008 financial crisis to the all-consuming framework of prisons and endless wars, societal benefits have been directed almost exclusively to the very elite institutions most responsible for failure at the expense of everyone else.

It was only a matter of time before instability, backlash, and disruption resulted. Both Brexit and Trump unmistakably signal its arrival. The only question is whether those two cataclysmic events will be the peak of this process, or just the beginning. And that, in turn, will be determined by whether their crucial lessons are learned — truly internalized — or ignored in favor of self-exonerating campaigns to blame everyone else."
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GLB on November 09, 2016, 10:21:30 pm
Don't tell me what's "lethal" or not.

Go fuck yourself.

How is this an appropriate response to make to anyone? He obviously wasn't educated which he admit, and just stated his opinion. It's people like you that make anyone wanting to explain their political view uncomfortable. Especially inappropriate considering you're a mod.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 09, 2016, 10:36:09 pm
How is this an appropriate response to make to anyone?
http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/all-that-s-left-re-random-topic-v10-177144.0.html
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: sluigi123 on November 09, 2016, 10:38:51 pm
I never voted, but if I did, I would've voted either Bernie Sanders, or 'DEEZ NUTZ'.

But since this has happened, I don't know what to do at this point. The amount of [amateur people/1-sided people] are skyrocketing these days now to the point where I have absolutely no clue as to whom to trust now.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GLB on November 09, 2016, 10:39:48 pm
I'm not very into politics, I didn't follow enough to put any faith into any candidate, so i felt like not voting was the route for me to go.


http://mugenguild.com/forum/topics/all-that-s-left-re-random-topic-v10-177144.0.html

Was unaware of this, sorry for the useless post then!
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: The Answer on November 09, 2016, 10:44:46 pm
This election was nice in the fact the smug aura of the left was shattered. Now all they do is just call trump supporters stupid,racist,white and all other buzzwords.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GDM on November 09, 2016, 10:56:13 pm
All of you are over reacting to the point of insanity. Yes Trump is president and I haven't vote for him I would rather have Bernie but instead we got Hillary which is worse. It was the same way how people reacted to Bush and Obama. I have done my share of worrying due to people saying we'll get nuked or worse but lets be realistic about this. Trump is going to be monitored real carefully. He'll need a lot of things approved by the senate and congress. In short it's will be the same way as it was when Obama and Bush were president. I may not like it but I'm not going to be a jackass to everyone because of this shit I'm just going to move forward and treat people I did before this election with respect. In short we should all do the same.
I'm a democrat and black but at the same time I'm trying to deal with it as a normal person.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 09, 2016, 11:01:15 pm
Both Trump and Hillary are mess.
Trump for, you guys already know. And Hillary, for many other things, especially for this (http://www.breitbart.com/live/second-presidential-debate-fact-check-livewire/fact-check-yes-hillary-clinton-laugh-successfully-defending-child-rapist/).
Won't like both, regardless of who'll win, USA is going to a dark future once again.

In Brazil, it's funny to see that the Press (which is manipulative in its great majority) is really sad about Trump's win. :P
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GDM on November 09, 2016, 11:10:05 pm
Yeah both were a mess gui but that's what happen when both far left and far right go too far
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 09, 2016, 11:16:59 pm
breitbart
That's ran by Trump's campaign manager Whatshisname Bannon. It has pretty much insane articles all over.
He'll need a lot of things approved by the senate and congress. In short it's will be the same way as it was when Obama and Bush were president.
I don't know about Bush but Obama was facing a mostly Republican Senate and Congress, who kept blocking everything he tried to do just because he was a Democrat, explicitly saying out loud that they would just flat out stop doing their job in some cases. Remember how the Supreme Court is missing one of the nine Justices since one died and Republicans are refusing to event meet the guy Obama nominated even though they mostly agree that he's a good fit but Obama is the one who nominated him, disregarding the constitution that says the president is the one who nominates the guy ? Trump will face a mostly Republican Senate and Congress, and there's no way they'll fight him as hard as they did Obama on every little thing. More things from him will pass than with Obama, even if some Republicans will try to be reasonable and not give in to everything he wants.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 09, 2016, 11:20:59 pm
Yeah both were a mess gui but that's what happen when both far left and far right go too far

Thing is Clinton wasn't even far left. She was barely left at all and embodies a ton of stuff the left tend to dislike. She was the spitting image of token same old same old government corruption that everyone is sick of. I'm sad to still think she'd be better than Trump. DNC is to blame. They was so sure their golden Clinton would get it they screwed over the one guy the left liked.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 09, 2016, 11:23:32 pm
I don't know about Bush but Obama was facing a mostly Republican Senate and Congress, who kept blocking everything he tried to do just because he was a Democrat, explicitly saying out loud that they would just flat out stop doing their job in some cases. Trump will face a mostly Republican Senate and Congress, and there's no way they'll fight him as hard as they did Obama on every little thing. More things from him will pass than with Obama, even if some Republicans will try to be reasonable and not give in to everything he wants.

Honestly though, they will not let Trump go too crazy on anything he says he "wants" to do. Of course we'll see things like Obamacare being taken away, but I don't see no things like camps to make gay people straight or any other such nonsense happening because it will just plain be an affront and WAY too obvious of them going over the line. Hell, I barely even see him promising to actually try and build the so called wall to keep illegal immigrants from Mexico to getting into America to be honest.

Again, not happy with him being President but at this rate...still far better than Hilary...
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GDM on November 09, 2016, 11:27:44 pm
Yeah both were a mess gui but that's what happen when both far left and far right go too far

Thing is Clinton wasn't even far left. She was barely left at all and embodies a ton of stuff the left tend to dislike. She was the spitting image of token same old same old government corruption that everyone is sick of. I'm sad to still think she'd be better than Trump. DNC is to blame. They was so sure their golden Clinton would get it they screwed over the one guy the left liked.
exactly
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 09, 2016, 11:30:10 pm
The things people are terrified about are things the Republican House and Senate have been trying desperately to pass for years. Stuff like ending Obamacare, defunding Planned Parenthood, restricting LGBTQ rights and passing bills that allow legal discrimination on that group, reshaping the Supreme Court into having a far-right wing bench (and that will by definition last a generation or two), reneging on environmental regulations and abandoning even the current meager efforts at trying to prevent global warming (which is literally an existential threat to the continued survival of humanity, and that's not hyperbolic at all).

Those are all just the things that came immediately to mind. There's a lot more, and it's all the same: stuff that harms horrifically people who are already marginalized and hurting.  And Trump has already said he wants to implement all of the above. He's absolutely not going to be kept in check by Congress; it is in fact the other way around. Congress will allowed to run rampant with no check on them.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 09, 2016, 11:40:19 pm
The things people are terrified about are things the Republican House and Senate have been trying desperately to pass for years. Stuff like ending Obamacare, defunding Planned Parenthood, restricting LGBTQ rights and passing bills that allow legal discrimination on that group, reshaping the Supreme Court into having a far-right wing bench (and that will by definition last a generation or two), reneging on environmental regulations and abandoning even the current meager efforts at trying to prevent global warming (which is literally an existential threat to the continued survival of humanity, and that's not hyperbolic at all).

Those are all just the things that came immediately to mind. There's a lot more, and it's all the same: stuff that harms horrifically people who are already marginalized and hurting.  And Trump has already said he wants to implement all of the above. He's absolutely not going to be kept in check by Congress; it is in fact the other way around. Congress will allowed to run rampant with no check on them.

You are acting as if there will be no extreme levels of backlash from stuff like that.
There's a thing called common sense and even Congress has that.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 09, 2016, 11:43:26 pm
When has there been any backlash from the multiple times unbelievably stupid thing the Senate or Congress did, just counting Obama's terms
This is a wild assumption that has literally no basis and is the same wishful thinking that got Trump there in the first place.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 09, 2016, 11:47:40 pm
Obamacare is more unpopular than it is popular. Planned Parenthood has been almost defunded dozens of times in the last year, saved only by Obama's pen. It's already legal to discriminate against LGBTQ people in a slight majority of states. Numerous states have already implemented hugely restrictive anti-abortion laws. Et cetera, et cetera. Public outcry against those things doesn't/wouldn't exist in large enough numbers to matter.

This stuff was already happening, and the only reason those things were slowed or stopped to a small extent was Obama's veto pen and his issuing of executive orders.

There was a chance to take back the Senate, and keep control of the White House, a chance that would allow some of this stuff to be fought back against. That didn't happen.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GDM on November 09, 2016, 11:50:37 pm
you're blowing this way out of proportion JMorph
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 09, 2016, 11:54:41 pm
I'm not talking about it being destroyed. I'm saying the existing laws that allow legal discrimination against LGBTQ people will be expanded by Congress and given legal protection by the Supreme Court. That is the absolute bare minimum that will happen.

Gay rights didn't end with marriage equality. And trans right still had so so far to go, before yesterday. I can scarcely imagine how trans people are feeling right now.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Memo on November 09, 2016, 11:55:24 pm
We will be alright tho with trump as president, can't be worse than Clinton would have been.
This was a shitty election but isn't every election shitty? Last REAL prez we ever had was Kennedy.
In other news California voted to legalize! Come on Tennessee get on it!
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on November 09, 2016, 11:56:21 pm
My Facebook timeline looks like we just elected Dormammu as President. It's not ideal but i tend to think we can manage. Obamacare is getting out of here, which i honestly am happy about but things like Muslims getting kicked out of the country and a wall being built ehhh. People are acting like the sky is falling and are throwing in the towel. America has been through slavery, civil wars, world wars, great depressions, 9/11, Katrina, John Cena movies, etc. I think we can make it through Donald freaking Trump.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 09, 2016, 11:57:31 pm
you're blowing this way out of proportion JMorph
Not really, this is clearly something that trump and Pence have tlaked about expanding, along with conversion camps and the like.

To think that they wont act on their promises is to think that people elected them thinking their promises were fake.
Even if they dont end up doing it the population very obviously and straight up told the world they agree with these courses of actions, with the walls, with everything.

Usa is a clown place politically right now that elected a reality tv show star that promised to be as racist as possible. Thats a pretty tough act to follow.

The americans chose to support this.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 09, 2016, 11:59:16 pm
Trump is going to be monitored real carefully. He'll need a lot of things approved by the senate and congress.

That's difficult to say, since he's appointing judges and senators who are unlikely to keep him in check.

We will be alright tho with trump as president, can't be worse than Clinton would have been.
This was a shitty election but isn't every election shitty? Last REAL prez we ever had was Kennedy.
In other news California voted to legalize! Come on Tennessee get on it!


It's not a comparison of who's worse.  The outcome has already been decided, there is no factor of how bad the alternative would have been.  The problems we're dealing with are in the here and now, not the what if.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Berry on November 10, 2016, 12:01:49 am
This was a shitty election but isn't every election shitty?
I don't recall the 2008 or 2012 election being as toxic as this one.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dumanios on November 10, 2016, 12:03:44 am
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/08f8e16ab3897a9a3dafa470f97633d7/tumblr_inline_oge1xoYrqB1rl6v7l_500.png)
(http://image.prntscr.com/image/4f0558df6f694be09610da21c825fb26.png)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Memo on November 10, 2016, 12:04:19 am
you're blowing this way out of proportion JMorph
Not really, this is clearly something that trump and Pence have tlaked about expanding, along with conversion camps and the like.

To think that they wont act on their promises is to think that people elected them thinking their promises were fake.
Even if they dont end up doing it the population very obviously and straight up told the world they agree with these courses of actions, with the walls, with everything.

Usa is a clown place politically right now that elected a reality tv show star that promised to be as racist as possible. Thats a pretty tough act to follow.

The americans chose to support this.

I doubt IF they make conversion camps, they will be mandatory.
It wont be like we will round up all the gays and lbgt and send them there.
It'll probably be voluntary IF that even happens. We live in a free country
You can be whoever you want. Theres alot of homophobia in America
But we wouldn't let that shit happen.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 12:07:22 am
Buckle up buckaroo, you LIVED in a "free" country, you elected someone that has repeatedly stated about how he wants to have journalists executed and envies how the russian operate. The same russians that have being gay as being illegal.

You dont even understand what you gave away. By electing someone that promises to control the press you have no say if he actually pulls it off, you already accepted it.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 12:10:50 am
I doubt IF they make conversion camps, they will be mandatory.
Are you trying to say it's somehow better if it's not mandatory
the problem is their very existence, everything it says about the people who created them and everyone who doesn't burn it down.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Japanese Jesus on November 10, 2016, 12:16:46 am
Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg... and my arm, even my fingers. The body I've lost. The comrades I've lost. It won't stop hurting. It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make them give back our past.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 12:18:16 am
(http://is.4chan.org/pol/1478713600474m.jpg)
people that keep this mindset will get trump reelected in 2020. women are not a hivemind you fucking idiots. neither are men. stop demonizing white people
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 12:23:06 am
related:
http://i.imgur.com/z6zoEWm.jpg

longass pic but its worth it.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 10, 2016, 12:37:20 am
the pic is long but the text is not, I support the act of reading it.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 12:45:10 am
Also relevant
http://reason.com/blog/2016/11/09/trump-won-because-leftist-political-corr

Tldr: Don't be a smug, self-righteous fucktard, you'll sound no better than old man Earl from Mississippi.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 12:45:30 am
http://is.4chan.org/pol/1478713600474m.jpg
did this dumb mofo just post a image from 4chan /pol/ ? Imagehost that shit dumbass.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: The Answer on November 10, 2016, 12:48:08 am
What does the source of the image have to do with anything?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Zemilia on November 10, 2016, 12:50:04 am
did this dumb mofo just post a image from 4chan /pol/ ? Imagehost that shit dumbass.

Easy up with the language, man
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 12:51:18 am
i don't think his issue is with pol as it is that it's a direct link to 4chan so there's a good chance the image will be gone in a couple hours making the post useless
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Berry on November 10, 2016, 12:54:00 am
http://i.imgur.com/Mrf3hr4.jpg

if you want to edit it in posts or whatever
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 12:55:57 am
What kind of dumbdumb hotlinks from 4chan, that shit is going to be gone in a couple of hours. Everyone knows this. ( besides showing where you are getting that content from and showing what chans you visit)
Dont hotlink to that shit. If you want to post something from there imagehost it.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 12:57:44 am
Calm your shit, I got it from somewhere else and overlooked the link. Getting heated over something little.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: The Answer on November 10, 2016, 12:58:48 am
I do like how after Trump won the left are showing their true colors. There is no need to be so hostile to people over who they voted for and it's going to make others not want to express their opinion on politics if this trend continues here.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 10, 2016, 01:03:08 am
I do like how after Trump won the left are showing their true colors.

There is no need to be so hostile to people over who they voted for

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 01:04:11 am
I do like how after Trump won the left are showing their true colors. There is no need to be so hostile to people over who they voted for and it's going to make others not want to express their opinion on politics if this trend continues here.
im the left being hostile to the poor poor right by telling someone to not hotlink from a racist site over how the picture will be gone in hours.
Im sorry I've triggered you, ill try to do better next time and not use the D-word
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 10, 2016, 01:05:09 am
When has there been any backlash from the multiple times unbelievably stupid thing the Senate or Congress did, just counting Obama's terms
This is a wild assumption that has literally no basis and is the same wishful thinking that got Trump there in the first place.

SOPA, PIPA, ACTA. Three already.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: The Answer on November 10, 2016, 01:06:22 am
How is 4chan a racist site just because of /pol/ lol cmon dude.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dumanios on November 10, 2016, 01:14:07 am
When has there been any backlash from the multiple times unbelievably stupid thing the Senate or Congress did, just counting Obama's terms
This is a wild assumption that has literally no basis and is the same wishful thinking that got Trump there in the first place.

SOPA, PIPA, ACTA. Three already.

On the other hand, there wasn't as much anger towards the GOP senators for the government shutdown, them stalling a Supreme Court nomination for most of a year, or for them stone-walling basically anything Obama wants to do. The ACA only passed after it was negotiated down from original, and it was mitigated in some places by the government deliberately sabotaging it (http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/11/how-obamacare-went-south-in-mississippi/382313/).
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 01:14:49 am
Don't sweat it, I'm cool. I'm not the one who got all pissy outta nowhere over what could be a reasonable mistake. :)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 10, 2016, 01:22:13 am
I do have to wonder why it's the staff cussing users out and getting reported in our political thread. Let's try to chill with that guys.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 10, 2016, 01:27:06 am
How is 4chan a racist site just because of /pol/ lol cmon dude.

Well the problem with 4chan is the image links are temporary, so you should save the images or get them from the archive.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: RodKnee on November 10, 2016, 01:28:10 am
(http://i.imgur.com/O38QiYx.png)

my reaction
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Memo on November 10, 2016, 01:37:20 am
I doubt IF they make conversion camps, they will be mandatory.
Are you trying to say it's somehow better if it's not mandatory
the problem is their very existence, everything it says about the people who created them and everyone who doesn't burn it down.

Hell yea its better if its voluntary, let people go in who chose too. If it was mandatory
It'll be like rounding up jews during ww2. Let them go in if they want to change make
It volntary if they decide to make those camps


Buckle up buckaroo, you LIVED in a "free" country, you elected someone that has repeatedly stated about how he wants to have journalists executed and envies how the russian operate. The same russians that have being gay as being illegal.

You dont even understand what you gave away. By electing someone that promises to control the press you have no say if he actually pulls it off, you already accepted it.

Calm down he's not gonna be a us version of Putin, I'm just hoping he cleans out the corruption
In D.C. and rebuilds our city's and bring jobs back to the us
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 01:43:23 am
Hell yea its better if its voluntary, let people go in who chose too.
Let them go in if they want to change make
It volntary if they decide to make those camps
... Wow, there's just something so fundamental and crazy that you're simply refusing to see. You don't even understand what the concept of those camps are. Hell, you don't even understand what the conversion is for.
I'm just hoping he cleans out the corruption
In D.C. and rebuilds our city's and bring jobs back to the us
But... None of that is going to happen. There's never been any hint whatsoever that he could ever be capable of doing any of that. This is just delusional.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jesuszilla on November 10, 2016, 01:45:19 am
Yeah both were a mess gui but that's what happen when both far left and far right go too far

Thing is Clinton wasn't even far left. She was barely left at all and embodies a ton of stuff the left tend to dislike. She was the spitting image of token same old same old government corruption that everyone is sick of. I'm sad to still think she'd be better than Trump. DNC is to blame. They was so sure their golden Clinton would get it they screwed over the one guy the left liked.

This. If you have anyone to blame for these election results, blame the left for not listening to the voice of the people like they should have.

And people like Jmorphman and Person Man calling the entire right/people who were outraged at the actions of the Left and/or Hillary racist, sexist, homophobes. People don't like being called names, thought you of all people knew that. That's not how you reason with people. That's how you get people to spite you by any means necessary.

Which is exactly what happened last night.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 10, 2016, 01:50:18 am
I doubt IF they make conversion camps, they will be mandatory.
Are you trying to say it's somehow better if it's not mandatory
the problem is their very existence, everything it says about the people who created them and everyone who doesn't burn it down.

Hell yea its better if its voluntary, let people go in who chose too. If it was mandatory
It'll be like rounding up jews during ww2. Let them go in if they want to change make
It volntary if they decide to make those camps


As tempting as it is to just yell at you, I feel the need to explain something.
The camps being voluntary is not much of an improvement, because then LGBT youth still have to deal with a culture that tells them that they're wrong and need to be fixed and if you hear that enough times you start to believe it.

The best comparisons I can think of are...think of how many mentally ill people don't get the help they need because of the stigma against mental illness, or people who try to de-legitimize their depression or don't take their suicidal thoughts seriously.  Think of how many rape and sexual abuse incidents go unreported because of the culture of victim blaming, or various other factors like women feeling like they "deserved it" or men feeling like men can't be raped.  This is basically the same thing.  I can promise you with 100% certainty, there is nobody who is of sound mind who would ever think "well shit, I'm tired of being gay, I'm gonna go sign up for this camp." 

Oh, and one more thing.  Gay kids would have no choice as long as they're underage and/or under their parents' or guardians' discretion.  So it doesn't matter how "voluntary" it is, it's a problem that it exists at all.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 01:53:19 am
I doubt IF they make conversion camps, they will be mandatory.
Are you trying to say it's somehow better if it's not mandatory
the problem is their very existence, everything it says about the people who created them and everyone who doesn't burn it down.

Hell yea its better if its voluntary, let people go in who chose too. If it was mandatory
It'll be like rounding up jews during ww2. Let them go in if they want to change make
It volntary if they decide to make those camps


Thats incredible.


It's happening.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3FOZqUoAAaxXL.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Sookoll on November 10, 2016, 01:54:35 am
Unless deleted by a mod, 4chan images stay up for 7 days nowadays because of the archive.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 02:03:41 am
I'm not sure how anyone can justify conversion camps of any kind, that sounds like some sci-fi fantasy nonsense. I mean, you are legit trying to program and manipulate someone's sexuality in the name of religion.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 02:06:37 am
I'm not sure how anyone can justify conversion camps of any kind, that sounds like some sci-fi fantasy nonsense. I mean, you are legit trying to program and manipulate someone's sexuality in the name of religion.

Some of pence proposed shit like the tests are some dystopian kind of shit.

Trump is most likely get limited by others, but its pretty proposterous he got elected with the kind of threats he was throwing around, it makes it seem like the people that elected him want to see them come through.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: -Whiplash- on November 10, 2016, 02:08:41 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3FOZqUoAAaxXL.jpg)

Sorry to be a dipshit but what is this a picture of? Other than people in the street.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TsuKasa ´・ω・` on November 10, 2016, 02:09:20 am
Is Trump really that bad? I've seen his interviews and I think he's a really passionate about his country.

Well yeah his promises and claims are a bit grand and unreal but insulting the guy before he can even work is overreacting a bit, all I'm saying let's give him a chance.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GDM on November 10, 2016, 02:10:03 am
Fearmongering at it's finest

Some of pence proposed shit like the tests are some dystopian kind of shit.

Trump is most likely get limited by others, but its pretty proposterous he got elected with the kind of threats he was throwing around, it makes it seem like the people that elected him want to see them come through.

they are getting tired of the bullshit
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 02:10:35 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw3FOZqUoAAaxXL.jpg)

Sorry to be a dipshit but what is this a picture of? Other than people in the street.
New york streets right now.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Memo on November 10, 2016, 02:12:09 am
You guys do know that gay conversion camps are not happening right?
and thats not why I prefer trump as prez. The reality we live in was either Clinton or trump..
Bernie was a better pick but the DNC fucked him over for Clinton.
Hillary is a crazy biaatch she would have caused more serious problems for us internationally.
At least with trump our problems will be here in the us, none of our soldiers will die over gay
And lbgt camps but they would have if we got into a confrontation with Russia in Syria. I feel like
Nobody's really thinking about that and are just thinking about themselves.
I honestly didnt want either in the Whitehouse but this election was a mess I had to pick the
Lesser of the 2 evils
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jesuszilla on November 10, 2016, 02:17:07 am
none of our soldiers will die over gay And lbgt camps

They will when the trauma hits them later and start abusing prescription medications in order to escape. These camps cause lasting damage, the exact kind that leads to drug abuse.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 02:17:30 am
Is Trump really that bad? I've seen his interviews and I think he's a really passionate about his country.

Well yeah his promises and claims are a bit grand and unreal but insulting the guy before he can even work is overreacting a bit, all I'm saying let's give him a chance.
https://youtu.be/9v97xH6Bof0?t=375
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 02:18:34 am
Quote
none of our soldiers will die over gay
And lbgt camps but they would have if we got into a confrontation with Russia in Syria.
how are you functioning my dude
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: HQ on November 10, 2016, 02:19:37 am
Not happening at all...Bad Parenting meets Religion meets Idiots meets Poor Gay Souls. If these camps do however makes the people aware of their shitty family, religion, it might help them to emancipate from these fucktards later on.

http://www.dailydot.com/via/undercover-gay-conversion-camp/ (http://www.dailydot.com/via/undercover-gay-conversion-camp/)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 10, 2016, 02:21:35 am
GAY CONVERSION CAMPS ABSOLUTELY EXIST NOW, WHAT THE FUCK?

They break them down vulnerable gay teens and tell them their lives are worthless for months on end. Suicide is rampant in those camps. And Pence was a huge supporter of them, wanted to redirect HIV prevention funds to setting up more of them.

And people like Jmorphman calling the entire right/people who were outraged at the actions of the Left and/or Hillary racist, sexist, homophobes. People don't like being called names, thought you of all people knew that.
I am truly, deeply sorry to anyone whose virgin ears were offended by my description of those hateful, bigoted policies as hateful, bigoted policies. I'm sorry for those among you who supported a man who espouses hateful, bigoted policies who are also offended when someone calls those policies hateful and bigoted.

I guess the best part about this dumb-ass post is that I've actually refrained from talking about Trump supporters, or even just people who voted for him. I've been talking about the policies that he will put in place that will hurt me and all the people I love. I'm very, very sorry that you'd take someone calling bigoted policies bigoted as an personal insult, because it reflects very poorly on you.

And as a quick aside: Being called a mean name is not comparable at all to being literally dehumanized. Getting called racist/sexist/homophobic is not remotely comparable the brutal, dehumanizing homophobia and transphobia that queer people go through. To suggest otherwise is truly and utterly low, even for you.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jesuszilla on November 10, 2016, 02:23:53 am
Cool, except I didn't say that. I'm saying that shit like that is the cause.


And we'll both be happy to know I supported neither of these candidates, so you're certainly not talking about me here. I'm saying what I believe the majority of these voters felt when they were demonized for being white, male, heterosexual, or any combination of the 3, by the extremists who have infiltrated the Democratic party. And you know as well that it's not fair to be demonized for something you're born with.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 02:43:22 am
https://medium.com/@trentlapinski/dear-democrats-read-this-if-you-do-not-understand-why-trump-won-5a0cdb13c597#.mjlu1bmwm
very good read
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Shin Neanderthal on November 10, 2016, 02:50:32 am
I do like how after Trump won the left are showing their true colors. There is no need to be so hostile to people over who they voted for and it's going to make others not want to express their opinion on politics if this trend continues here.

I agree with you. Dude, I voted for him.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 02:54:14 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw1rY9EWEAAi5qM.jpg)
jesus fucking christ
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 10, 2016, 02:57:45 am
I agree with you. Dude, I voted for him.
Huh, an alt account for Mr.Silver. What did he get permabanned for? Oh, right. PMing homophobic slurs at Bea. (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2006736)

Cya.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jesuszilla on November 10, 2016, 03:01:25 am
OK, while I agree with banning that piece of shit again, I find it a bit concerning that he's been around for 8 weeks and yet his ban was triggered by "I voted for so-and-so."


I really think you need to calm down and take a break. I understand completely where you're coming from but it's starting to affect your judgment.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 10, 2016, 03:03:35 am
I check the accounts of any user I don't recognize who posts in heated off-topic threads.

It's a pretty good way to find alt accounts, cuz they can't help but getting into arguments with people they've already argued with.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jesuszilla on November 10, 2016, 03:05:16 am
True. Surprised Byakko's favorite rival hasn't popped up yet.

And I don't mean Vyx.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 10, 2016, 03:06:24 am
I'm going to have to agree that you should take a step back.  This is something you're really passionate about so it's a discussion I think is worth having, but right now it's just stressing you out and it isn't making for a very civil thread.  This is by no means something you should "just drop", but I think you need to take a break just for the time being, even if just for your sake.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 03:07:22 am
yeah
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Amalgam of Gambling on November 10, 2016, 03:15:55 am
Memo, you just have no idea what are you talking about.

Discussed this with my family, and we pretty much agree USA might be regretting choosing Trump as a president.

@Jmorphman

I understand how much you're concerned with the current political situation in USA, but you need to take a break; you're stressing too much with the events of yesterday and part of today. Calm down, so your emotions don't cloud your judgment.

To think a similar shit might happen to my country in 2018. e_e
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 03:17:19 am
OK, while I agree with banning that piece of shit again, I find it a bit concerning that he's been around for 8 weeks and yet his ban was triggered by "I voted for so-and-so."
i agree that it looks shitty, a person that the staff disagrees with shows up in a thread, the staff member thinks "this guy's a real jerk, what can i ruin him with?" and they find out he's an alt account so he gets banned forever, but that's how alt accounts usually get caught. nobody notices or bothers to check when it's an account just posting around mugen threads, but when it's someone with 20 or so posts posting in threads that have nothing to do with mugen it looks suspicious. signing up to a mugen forum and starting out by posting in threads that have nothing to do with mugen is not a common thing. i know that's how a lot of people got caught when i was admin at least
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 10, 2016, 03:18:23 am
True. Surprised Byakko's favorite rival hasn't popped up yet.

And I don't mean Vyx.

Give it long enough and he may feel the need to weigh in, but I doubt he's gonna want to burn an account for nothing.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 10, 2016, 03:19:19 am
I agree that Jmorphman needs to step out for a while. Getting this worked up over the results is not healthy and it is annoying quite a few people here who wants to have calm discussions without too much anger.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: ShinZankuro on November 10, 2016, 03:57:02 am
Seeing even JMORPHMAN almost losing his mind because the election issues and obviously the results, I don't want even to imagine what will happen in the next days/months/years until the next election.

The only fact I can see from all of that shit happening is: There's a winner on that election, but who loses is the whole USA nation people.

EDIT: I can feel the same shit happening on my country in 2018, sadly.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 10, 2016, 04:11:06 am
That's not what I would call "losing his mind." The first instance was a bit harsh (although one could argue the post he was responding to was pretty nasty in its context), and the second instance is pretty much just wrong place at the wrong time. You know that one of the big issues on his mind right now are the state of LGBT rights, so it's easy to think that him banning someone who was ban-evading is only doing so due to that user's homophobic actions in the past.

If anything, I'd argue you're getting way too sensitive about his actions and are *looking* for ways to find that he's going nuts. And coming from me, that's saying something.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: morbidjoe on November 10, 2016, 04:19:21 am
Its hard not to get stress about it Im a little stress myself thinking about it
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 10, 2016, 04:29:24 am
FWIW I run an IP check on pretty much every single new user that rubs me off the wrong way. Anime avatar + gender:female+ location: japan? alt account. First post is a new thread asking an old question? alt account. Avatar matches a banned user's? alt account.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 04:38:04 am
Quote
Comedian Amy Schumer says she was just kidding about leaving the country if Donald Trump were elected president
(http://i.imgur.com/y5ZB3Mg.png)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: The Sudden Rarity on November 10, 2016, 04:45:48 am
If Trump and Pence enact conversion "therapy" camps (which still do exist), then the LGBT (those of us who exist within, myself as well as JMM and Bea included), and the supporters are gonna be beyond angry and extremely scared for our future.

And don't get me started on the Atheists (myself being one as well).
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 10, 2016, 04:54:02 am
(http://i.imgur.com/y5ZB3Mg.png)
Can this be a smiley please
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 10, 2016, 05:00:04 am
That's not what I would call "losing his mind." The first instance was a bit harsh (although one could argue the post he was responding to was pretty nasty in its context), and the second instance is pretty much just wrong place at the wrong time. You know that one of the big issues on his mind right now are the state of LGBT rights, so it's easy to think that him banning someone who was ban-evading is only doing so due to that user's homophobic actions in the past.

If anything, I'd argue you're getting way too sensitive about his actions and are *looking* for ways to find that he's going nuts. And coming from me, that's saying something.

There's still the obvious fact that maybe he should really take some time off if he's that stressed out.
Honestly, my brother is still part of the LGBT and I'm worried, but I do not see them making these camps mandatory processes or make them even more obvious than they are in fear of epic backlash from everyone.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 10, 2016, 05:08:38 am
They're not concerned about backlash, considering everyone being appointed for senate and SCJ is in favor of it. 
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 10, 2016, 05:13:15 am
No one is suggesting some kind of mandatory concentration camps for every gay American are coming. That's simply absurd. Right now, conversion camps are a very threat to some, but not all LGBTQ youth in America. They exist, and they are doing very real damage.

It is far too early to say whether Pence will even have an opportunity to implement some sort of plan that would expand funding for those types of camps, or something like that. It's certainly possible, but it's not something that can absolutely be said to happen, like the imminent death of Obamacare or the defunding of Planned Parenthood can be. Rather, the conversion camp thing is best viewed as a judge of character, of the man Mike Pence is: a man who would steal from a fund dedicated to helping prevent the spread of HIV in order to fund horrific, brutal camps that literally torture children. It serves as a reminder that one of the most homophobic politicians in history has been elected to one of the highest offices in government.

That man is going to be the next vice president. And he'll be one of the most powerful and influential VPs in American history, given the various hints and leaks that have dropped about how Trump is planning on handing most of the day-to-day executive functions to his VP. (http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/288471-report-trump-camp-offered-to-make-kasich-most-powerful-vp)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jesuszilla on November 10, 2016, 05:17:53 am
Pence can seriously go eat a bowl of dick. And I had no idea he'd be given THAT much responsibility. Most VP's get jack squat to do.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 10, 2016, 05:30:57 am
They're not concerned about backlash, considering everyone being appointed for senate and SCJ is in favor of it.

And you actually think the people would just allow Congress to get away with that? Because no, I don't see people just pretending it doesn't exist after how hard LGBT rights have been hammered into their heads to allow those camps to be well known to the public and functional at the same time.

Pence can seriously go eat a bowl of dick. And I had no idea he'd be given THAT much responsibility. Most VP's get jack squat to do.

Well of course...Trump is no politician, so of course he's going to do that. Man's sadly way over his head when it comes to stuff like that.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 10, 2016, 05:34:57 am
People will allow?  What do you think they're going to do?  Protest?  Look how well that's working right now. 
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 10, 2016, 05:47:35 am
People will allow?  What do you think they're going to do?  Protest?  Look how well that's working right now.

You really comparing that to the man simply becoming President? Really?

Because didn't people make the same ruckus with Obama?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Seadragon77 on November 10, 2016, 07:00:13 am
After a day of seeing what went down and thinking about it... I may not like it, but I have to accept the decision. It's the right thing to do.

I believed in Hillary because she has the most experience, and I would rather have someone who has been in Washington and knows how it works there then someone who hasn't been there... hell, hasn't even done any political work whatsoever. I think that the weight of the scandals, real or not, just became far too much to handle.

On the flip side, Trump has become the first candidate to use what I've dubbed the 'Doomsday Effect'. As some of you guys may have seen in the recent Death Battle episode, they mentioned how Doomsday is able to adapt and become immune to whatever harmed him in the first place... it had me thinking. Trump has had a metric shit ton of problems... any one of them alone would end a normal politician's career. But, Trump is not your normal politician. He became immune to these problems because it's what we expected out of the guy.... and it worked.

Now comes the hard part: in a few short months, the Republican party will have the President and control of both chambers for the first time since 1928. Things are either going to look up or things are going to hell in a handbasket really, really quickly.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TsuKasa ´・ω・` on November 10, 2016, 07:08:08 am
Uh guys I've read some news about suicide cases cause of trump's winning the election.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: The Sudden Rarity on November 10, 2016, 07:15:20 am
I hope the the thing about Pence wanting to overturn the funding for HIV/AIDS research in favor of conversion therapy is untrue.  If not, all those that suffer from HIV/AIDS AND the children/teens that suffer with their uncertainty are in for even more suffering if he gets it to pass.

Please, don't let it be true.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 07:55:05 am
(https://i.sli.mg/KpZVtt.gif)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 10, 2016, 11:55:15 am
wow..if I understood it right the us election system is pretty fucked up and Clinton got more votes than Trump actually.

I understand why the system was designed like that but it seems pretty outdated now that the individual states are more than ever one big country and not 50+ small states. Every vote should be equal to each other..right?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: LunaTuna on November 10, 2016, 12:24:31 pm
I hope the the thing about Pence wanting to overturn the funding for HIV/AIDS research in favor of conversion therapy is untrue.  If not, all those that suffer from HIV/AIDS AND the children/teens that suffer with their uncertainty are in for even more suffering if he gets it to pass.

Please, don't let it be true.

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/75d628d9701f535bf6815118c01413e3/tumblr_obpzo5Kkt51ra4d6ro1_500.png)

but like lol at both pence and trump, do these queens not know that HIV/AIDS also affects straight people as well, I'm so mortified at the stupidity. I'm not suggesting assassination, but someone please put them on a boat and kill them with fire.

Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 10, 2016, 12:40:32 pm
How are you Australian,you can't even shitpost right
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: DuckMannnn on November 10, 2016, 01:26:38 pm
Would you rather choose an orange dickhead or a two-faced bitch

I'm still surprised how Kanye West wasn't elected.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: LunaTuna on November 10, 2016, 01:41:02 pm
How are you Australian,you can't even shitpost right

nah bitch im american. thanks for the constructive criticism shitposter ;)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 地獄の花 on November 10, 2016, 01:51:31 pm

anyway the hell are americans bitchin' about. they had a fair election trump won deal with it. he's not a monster like the media proclaims he is.
i am looking forward to what trump would do.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 01:59:14 pm
Tbh, I wouldn't have an issue with Hillary (DNC favoritism and all) if her policies didn't just straight suck. Wanting to further exploit the developing countries, destabilizing countries, continuing pseudo-imperialism (under the disguise of "freedom and democracy"), aiding "moderates" (not terrorists they claim), continuing/amplifying free trade (and by proxy TPP's internet policing), droning civilians (they frequently cause calamity and kill innocents), multiplying the number of Middle Eastern refugees (culture clash doesn't exist they're just Islamphobes), not giving any reconsideration to restructuring NATO (no it shouldn't be destroyed but it's zapping the economy), unnecessary war with Russia and China (Russia isn't strong arming itself to damage the US so why even), likely continuation of accessible health care (admirable but unsustainable with a debt-riddle country). This isn't getting into her past with straight ruining countries (Haiti), her much better disguised racial "mishaps" (super predators and mass incarceration), and undermining the average worker. In short, she's massively pro-corporate and doesn't care about what's best for citizens, and that shit was exposed throughout the election. That's the main reason why she lost, and she still won the popular vote because her opponent is a massively under-qualified idiot.

Trump is a wild card (heh) and who knows what he'll end up doing outside of attempting to help Russia with Syria. That's what everyone is afraid of, the opposition was the safe choice because it meant more money for the 1st world leaders and the huge corporations. Now nothing is guaranteed and everyone's hoping he falls in line (like Obama did) so that the political ecosystem in place isn't massively disrupted.

I understand why the system was designed like that but it seems pretty outdated now that the individual states are more than ever one big country and not 50+ small states. Every vote should be equal to each other..right?

California is 10% of the entire US population, it'd be silly for middle of nowhere Wyoming to be counted equally. It's far from perfect, but using the popular vote would make elections about big cities and everywhere else (like farmers) would be ignored.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Kamekaze on November 10, 2016, 02:06:45 pm
People will allow?  What do you think they're going to do?  Protest?  Look how well that's working right now.


Because didn't people make the same ruckus with Obama?
Actually no. There were no huge protests like this. Only people upset in isolated incidents.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 10, 2016, 02:25:36 pm
@Niltris Absolutely correct regarding the seats in the cabinet.

Here in Germany we just have a different system which I am used to.

The Bundeskanzler is directly voted through the people here. If Merkel had more votes than Schröder, it wouldnt matter if Schröder had the most votes in the biggest regions/states of germany like Nordrheinwestfalen or Bayern.

The 16 "Bundesländer" / federal states still have a different number of representatives in the Cabinet of course, depending on the number of persons that are living and voting in them.

Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Chronan on November 10, 2016, 02:42:18 pm
Some of this thread is as golden as Trump's suit of armor. Great stuff! The anti-Bush fear mongering was fun back in '04 too but at least some of those fears had more of a foundation to build off of, wish I was mature enough to handle it as I should have back then.

My hope is that comedy doesn't die again for the next 4 years with the same shitty recycled Trump jokes like we got during the 2nd Bush term with the same shitty recycled "Bush is stupid" jokes. Not that the USA comedy scene is in a great place anyway, everyone still in the mainstream blows dick and not in the good way.
See, my concerns over a Trump presidency are actually based in reality, unlike my waifu who is still just a pillow.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GDM on November 10, 2016, 02:46:49 pm
We'll all be okay people just need to relax and there is no reason we should be resorting to violence over a election. Just move forward with life
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: SageHarpuiaJDJ on November 10, 2016, 03:14:56 pm
I'm honestly one of the few people who thinks that Trump being elected won't be as bad as people set it out to be. Don't get me wrong, there's gonna be some trouble in the long run, but we'll still be standing. The thing with the conservation camps I can understand being a huge problem, but I feel that we as citizens have the power to oppose something like that. I think that we underestimate our word. So what Hiliary won the popular vote but Trump still won? We still have a voice for what we oppose, because we are the body of the country. So what's happen has happened, but I'm a strong believer that nothing's gonna happen that sends our country spiraling out of control.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 03:22:31 pm
Hey Republicans and religious nutjobs, at least now you know how it's like when the other camp keeps painting your candidate as the end of the world or the Antichrist.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: LunaTuna on November 10, 2016, 03:28:11 pm
I'm honestly one of the few people who thinks that Trump being elected won't be as bad as people set it out to be. Don't get me wrong, there's gonna be some trouble in the long run, but we'll still be standing. The thing with the conservation camps I can understand being a huge problem, but I feel that we as citizens have the power to oppose something like that. I think that we underestimate our word. So what Hiliary won the popular vote but Trump still won? We still have a voice for what we oppose, because we are the body of the country. So what's happen has happened, but I'm a strong believer that nothing's gonna happen that sends our country spiraling out of control.

His a terrible person and his supporters (most not all) are even more fked up and things are already getting out of control

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/a5cfcd887ebe6fdc9b88ab41c5e9edef/tumblr_ogeo6wJqUW1qa0fruo6_540.png)

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/573360feac798c630c550dba4d30ebdb/tumblr_ogeo6wJqUW1qa0fruo7_1280.png)

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/569b780a636f347a826824a9f9bc335b/tumblr_ogeo6wJqUW1qa0fruo9_1280.png)

its only been two days and some trump supporters are doing the most already. People are using trumps victory to do whatever the fk they want, I'm not saying that Hillary is a good person either, but I'm 100% sure shyt like this wouldn't go down if she won cause she doesn't make negative remarks towards race, gender or sexuality which makes her supporters not become a bunch of wild animals.


Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: SageHarpuiaJDJ on November 10, 2016, 03:42:31 pm
Those kinds of things I feel will always happen. People reacted in a similar way when Obama was elected. It's shitty and evil, yes, but it's to be expected in the first few days of the election. It doesn't make it any more wrong, but it won't stop anytime soon.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: PineappleProducer on November 10, 2016, 03:45:16 pm
its only been two days and some trump supporters are doing the most already. People are using trumps victory to do whatever the fk they want, I'm not saying that Hillary is a good person either, but I'm 100% sure shyt like this wouldn't go down if she won cause she doesn't make negative remarks towards race, gender or sexuality which makes her supporters not become a bunch of wild animals.

Lol.
http://www.infowars.com/hillary-supporters-burn-american-flag-riot-threaten-to-kill-trump-after-losing-election/
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: LunaTuna on November 10, 2016, 03:51:27 pm
its only been two days and some trump supporters are doing the most already. People are using trumps victory to do whatever the fk they want, I'm not saying that Hillary is a good person either, but I'm 100% sure shyt like this wouldn't go down if she won cause she doesn't make negative remarks towards race, gender or sexuality which makes her supporters not become a bunch of wild animals.

Lol.
http://www.infowars.com/hillary-supporters-burn-american-flag-riot-threaten-to-kill-trump-after-losing-election/

That's just a form of retaliation, not unnecessary hate thrown at people and let me rephrase that and say most (not all) of her supporters are not crazy xD
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 地獄の花 on November 10, 2016, 03:52:48 pm
stupid people would do stupid things no matter what.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: LunaTuna on November 10, 2016, 03:53:11 pm
Those kinds of things I feel will always happen. People reacted in a similar way when Obama was elected. It's shitty and evil, yes, but it's to be expected in the first few days of the election. It doesn't make it any more wrong, but it won't stop anytime soon.

And it's the same ones that support trump tbh long story short people that discriminate are assholes :(
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 10, 2016, 03:57:21 pm
My console can do no wrong

Your console is plebian
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: PineappleProducer on November 10, 2016, 03:57:46 pm
stupid people would do stupid things no matter what.

 This guy knows whats up.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: ink on November 10, 2016, 04:07:59 pm
So this is happening.
https://www.change.org/p/the-people-impeach-donald-j-trump
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 04:08:13 pm
Racist etc. people feel empowered through Trump and start doing shit to random people everywhere around them that have no connection to anything, and the same people get upset by Obama and do the same thing.
Those calling for Trump's murder are only targeting those directly related to Trump or directly supporting him.
However bad either of these things are, try not to claim that it's all the same thing, because it just isn't.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: PineappleProducer on November 10, 2016, 04:18:43 pm
So this is happening.
https://www.change.org/p/the-people-impeach-donald-j-trump

Sometimes I feel like people don't understand the concept of a friggin' election.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 04:19:27 pm
Racist etc. people feel empowered through Trump and start doing shit to random people everywhere around them that have no connection to anything, and the same people get upset by Obama and do the same thing.
Those calling for Trump's murder are only targeting those directly related to Trump or directly supporting him.
However bad either of these things are, try not to claim that it's all the same thing, because it just isn't.

its part of what happens when you push fearmongering as a political platform and all the stupid people eat it up.

When Brexit passed similar stuff happened.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 10, 2016, 04:21:54 pm
So this is happening.
https://www.change.org/p/the-people-impeach-donald-j-trump

From there


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Damn clever actually. Whoever is behind the idea will sell a good couple overpriced t-shirts in the next days. 


Hell I should do something similar instead of working in a school.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 04:23:13 pm
Setting aside the more violent expressions, protests also stop innocents from commuting and destroys property regardless of who they supported. It's not motivated by the same thing, but both sides are just as damaging.

As for the long run, don't expect this to just suddenly die out. Sadly hate crimes are likely to increase, same thing happened with Brexit.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Tiny-kun on November 10, 2016, 04:23:52 pm
When Brexit passed similar stuff happened.
The first I saw about this election was exactly that: this was a brexit 2.0

My opinion: this election was a kind of "dead end", Clinton or Trump, no matter who wins, the things will probably fucked up. Sadly, I can't laugh of you Americans, since in my country the next year we'll have our own "dead end": Lagos vs. Piñera, both ex-presidents and both made horrid govenment periods...
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 04:31:23 pm
Everyone (at least in Europe) has been taking Trump seriously ever since Brexit because we know it's pretty much the same thing. France's Far Right party has always been looming around but was always pushed back because they never break past 20% of voters (unless participation goes below 50% in which case 2002 happens), but now the danger is more palpable than ever for us too, for our next election which is happening next year. Between the Brexit, Trump, and Le Pen (our Far Right leader), next year just might be a complete disaster. (I would be looking at Ireland as my Canada, personally)
... How are things going in Germany ?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: ink on November 10, 2016, 04:37:41 pm
So this is happening.
https://www.change.org/p/the-people-impeach-donald-j-trump

Sometimes I feel like people don't understand the concept of a friggin' election.
You realize he didn't get the popular vote, right? That means the majority of Americans (who voted) didn't want him as president.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: PineappleProducer on November 10, 2016, 04:39:50 pm
But he did get the electoral vote, and that's what the country uses, and at the end of the day that's all that matters.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 04:46:24 pm
... So yeah, the concept of the election is weirder and harder to understand than you'd expect. Precisely because it's not the popular vote.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 04:47:09 pm
the popular vote doesn't necessarily represent what america wanted. that sounds insane of course, but listen: there are a lot of people that didn't bother to vote for trump or hillary because they live in a state that usually heavily swings in one direction, so they don't bother to vote because they believe their vote won't make a difference (they're probably right). i have no idea what a real popular vote (in which everybody that has any amount of interesting in voting does so) would look like, maybe there would be more votes for hillary for all i know


stupid people would do stupid things no matter what.
yes but the difference is that now everything will be blamed on the trump presidency and how hateful america has become even though having obama for 8 years didn't make people any less stupid

yesterday three men beat up and stole a friend's wallet and yelled RUN WHITEY at him and i could say that's retailation at the white voter, but we know that would be dishonest
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 10, 2016, 04:53:51 pm
The sole reason he is even viewed as racist is because the media demonized him so people would be in favor of Clinton.
Unfortunately the only thing that did is bring actual racists who think they're in good company into the fray.However even then the percentage of those people is pretty small,and there is no saying whether those Twitter and tumblr stories are legitimate.
Or you know,just accidentally happen to perfectly go with their agenda
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 10, 2016, 04:57:23 pm

... How are things going in Germany ?


Panic Byakko..a giant wave of panic. At least on more or less all the big news websites. They drew a picture of Trump as a dumb idiot in the past and now they panic because that guy is the new President there in awesome 'murica with the big blackouts every year and an infrastructure we would probably describe as third continent standard.

Merkel seems to be Not Amused but has to play with the new guys of course. She knows that her years are over next year in September when we have our elections here and the anti eu..anti immigrants party "AFD" (Alternative for Deutschland) might get 10-20% while both the big conservative party cdu and the social democrats SPD might get their lowest percentage of votes ever.

Merkel knows that Trump wants to rise the economy /own companies in the USA and that means less exports for the "Exportweltmeister" nation Germany and that can be problematic for the whole system here.

Personally I believe this is actually for the better in the long run though. Every big country and region should have enough own industry to be at least for the majority independent from other countries. Look at Greece as example and how dependent they are from us others in Europe because they were not able to build up an own big industry and instead calculated that mostly tourism and the few export sellers they have like wine is enough to run the country on a high standard.

Too many free markets for everyone can hurt the global economy instead of helping it, there needs to be a balance between import and export..and if Germany will suffer because guys like Trump are completely against ideas like the TTIP, so be it.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 05:15:32 pm
The sole reason he is even viewed as racist is because the media demonized him so people would be in favor of Clinton.
You mean it's not because he repeatedly claimed he'd build a wall to stop Mexicans from coming, claimed he'd block immigration for all Muslims, and a whole list of other similar stuff ?
Coulda fool'd me !
I mean, it doesn't necessarily means he thinks that Mexicans and Muslims are subhumans or something like that, but, you know, it's still big time racism to block off entire populations specifically because of where they come from (or even just for their religion when they're already in America !), thinking "they might kill us" just because they're from the same region as a specific enemy group. That's still the definition of racism.

She knows that her years are over next year in September when we have our elections here and the anti eu..anti immigrants party "AFD" (Alternative for Deutschland) might get 10-20% while both the big conservative party cdu and the social democrats SPD might get their lowest percentage of votes ever.
Ah, that's what I thought I heard. Well, if you guys are still confident it'll remain at 20%, at least you still have an alternative. Ours seems to be speeding toward the shitter ready to make a fat splash. And we're not so confident anymore that our anti-everything will stay under 20%.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 10, 2016, 05:18:18 pm
Indeed.

I see your lovely Marine at 25-30% at least. And I believe she is a lot worse than Trump. If what I read about her is true..she is a lot more German than the most of us =/
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 05:25:52 pm
The sole reason he is even viewed as racist is because the media demonized him so people would be in favor of Clinton.

It's because he ran on blatant race-signaling and other dumb shit. Like, you can talk about illegal immigration (a real problem), without lazy scapegoats like calling Mexicans rapists and criminals. You can talk about wanting the Middle Eastern problem without claims to carpet-bomb innocents who just happen to be family with terrorists. Yeah the media did had it out for him, I personally didn't see the recording as this "heinous crime that should have him purged from modern society." It was crude, immature, and obviously unfitting for a political leader, but men do indeed say that kind of shit. Ugly reality. But he sure as hell wasn't helping himself, though one could argue if he even cared or even used it to his advantage.

Anyway, Trump was saying things just to sound good and it worked. He has no real idea on how the details work, that's why he's delegating power to Pence. It revealed the underrated effect of pandering how it garners a following, Sanders was doing the same thing about change to the establishment. Hillary should've did more of it.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Chronan on November 10, 2016, 05:39:57 pm
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You mean it's not because he repeatedly claimed he'd build a wall to stop Mexicans from coming,
Build a wall(whether it happens or not, and I'm expecting not) to stop ILLEGAL immigration. Not Mexican immigration. Not racist at all. Great spin though. Would do Bill O'Reilly and Rachel Maddow proud!

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claimed he'd block immigration for all Muslims,
Temporary stop on muslims(not a race as far as I know), from countries known to house terrorism. Close but still not racist. He removed his "BAN ALL MUSLIMS!" statement from his website, now I can't even find the original. All we have is a bunch of sites saying it was "BAN ALL MUSLIMS FROM THE USA!" Which is wrong, but ayyy! The reality is we already do the vetting he talked about, so nothing will really change, muslims aren't and never were going to be banned from the USA.

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and a whole list of other similar stuff ?
True, like when he said he sprinkled fetal dust from dried African fetuses into his food to invigorate his calcified pineal gland which would give him his third eye, empower his chi, and allow him to destroy the Chinese government with his own 2-handed super powered Shinku Hadoken. I'm not sure if that one is racist against the Chinese or Africans, but it is definitely racist somewhere.


It's only as racist as you are willing to spin it or are willing to accept the spin about it. People go nuts when FOX News and DrudgeReport does this shit to Kerry, Obama, and the Clintons but are fairly cool about it when CNN, HuffPo, and The Guardian do the same shit to even greater and more frequent extents. 1 part of many parts what gave Trump such a strong following is his refusal to walk on eggshells during his campaign, and it threw sand in the asses everyone who demanded he walk on eggshells.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is and always was a slimey fuck, but the spin on his statements and out-of-context quotes are just as slimey, which would just piss off his supporters more every time they'd hear it, which was every day by the way. Every day people were fed that Trump hates Mexicans and Muslims, the difference is whether you bought into that shit or not. :(
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 05:54:36 pm
Build a wall(whether it happens or not, and I'm expecting not) to stop ILLEGAL immigration. Not Mexican immigration. Not racist at all. Great spin though. Would do Bill O'Reilly and Rachel Maddow proud!
The "when Mexico sends us their people, they're not sending their best" that's just racist. That's not a spin. The "illegal" part of his claims has always been a distant second concern every time he said anything on the same vein. He's running on the rampant desire to just kick out everyone who isn't full blooded American or White, period. Nothing he said justifies the belief that he'll strictly stop the illegal ones, or that he won't simply ride on making it harder and harder to legally immigrate.
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Temporary stop on muslims(not a race as far as I know)
Muslim is not a race but it's still the same thing, why are you nitpicking on specific words ? It's still blind hate toward a vague group of people based on their origin, it's still the basis of fear- and hate-mongering. And again, the rhetoric of kicking out an entire population group based on race or religion is the definition of everything we're saying Trump is.

None of this is a spin, it's a clarification of what he's actually saying. All of this is an extremely basic point of all extremist rhetoric, all the far right parties in Europe use the same and everyone can see right through them. Why can't you ? How can you think you're so special that Trump is the one who won't abuse it and turn it around whenever he feels like it ?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 10, 2016, 06:14:40 pm
... So yeah, the concept of the election is weirder and harder to understand than you'd expect. Precisely because it's not the popular vote.
The reason for the electoral college is really old but it at least kinda made sense in the context.

See, the founding fathers actually *knew* that not only could they not get everyone to vote, but also that tons of people who would are going to be uneducated morons who don't know the first thing about running a country or what it needs. Ergo, electoral votes would be handled by educated people who were up to speed with what was going on and knew what was needed to address issues.

To be honest, the reasoning behind it makes sense. A farmer out in the middle of nowhere isn't going to vote based on things like balancing the country's economy or handling healthcare, so he'd be ill-equipped to pick the the next leader.

Now before I get a bunch of flack for that, I'm in agreement that the Electoral College is broken. When it was first formed, the USA only had a fraction of the states it has now and it didn't have a huge international scene. Additionally, the system wasn't originally intended to be a filter for American votes; we were supposed to vote for the people who would vote for us and hope they knew what they were doing.

Still, for the life of me, I personally can't think of a better solution. Say we did go by popular vote and Hillary won. This would've been positive reinforcement to the idea that it's okay to lie and throw money at corporate media to basically spread propaganda, and it would get worse. Maybe as a nation we'd be happier in general, but we'd be happy on false premises. I'm still in agreement that Trump is a horrible choice just from what we've seen, but what lies under the surface with Hillary scares me.

The only thing I can think of that would help is if more people were able to not just accept whatever is presented to them and challenged everything, to decide what their morals are and be able to play devil's advocate with themselves, and above all, to be as educated as possible.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 06:43:03 pm
PSA: calling every single Drumpf voter a misogynistic racist fascist ableist meany is precisely the fucking reason the man won in the first place.

It's not an accusation that every person who voted for him is themselves a racist or a sexist, it's that they saw someone who very blatantly is those things and still chose to vote for him.  They saw a presidential candidate whose whole campaign was centered around disenfranchising Muslims, Hispanics, women, and LGBT citizens, who was caught on tape bragging about using his celebrity status to get away with committing sexual assault, who openly encourages violence against his political rivals, and thought to themselves "I'm okay with this.  This is acceptable for the leader of our nation."  While those voters might not openly endorse those particular views, their apathy in the face of all of it just as bad.

Just fuck this entire country.  Fuck the republicans for letting someone as toxic as Trump be their canidate, fuck the democrats for intentionally rigging the primaries against the only candidate who had a shot a beating him, and fuck the people for being too much of a bunch of gullible, apathetic cattle to stop any of this from happening.

Those things are lies. He did not say anything about disenfranching anyone. He was not bragging about sexual assault, because sexual assault is what happens when you don't get consent and he was bragging about how much consent he gets. It's lies like these that lead to everyone hating the media and people like you.


The posts droning on about nuclear attacks show exactly why he won. The dumber people are the more they listen to people spewing hate, its easy to use fear to control.

Now the states will have to deal with a president that has the full support of the KKK and a vice president that wants to setup conversion camps. Good job.

Had the DNC not been completely stupid pushing one of the most unpopular candidates they ever had while being caught repeatedly favoring her they might not have alienated as many voters as they had.

This ends up confirming the suspicions most countries already had about America and further pushes them from "joke" into "garbage fire". Lets see how the market reacts.

The KKK is fucking irrelevant. You're granting them far more legitimacy than they've had in many decades just by mentioning them. There are so few members of the KKK that they are a rounding error in any election polls. A person cannot be demonized for who supports him because he cannot control who supports him. You'll find plenty of insane black supremacists supporting Clinton. Stop pushing this hateful fucking narrative and acknowledge the legitimacy of people who voted for Trump.

The things people are terrified about are things the Republican House and Senate have been trying desperately to pass for years. Stuff like ending Obamacare, defunding Planned Parenthood, restricting LGBTQ rights and passing bills that allow legal discrimination on that group, reshaping the Supreme Court into having a far-right wing bench (and that will by definition last a generation or two), reneging on environmental regulations and abandoning even the current meager efforts at trying to prevent global warming (which is literally an existential threat to the continued survival of humanity, and that's not hyperbolic at all).

Those are all just the things that came immediately to mind. There's a lot more, and it's all the same: stuff that harms horrifically people who are already marginalized and hurting.  And Trump has already said he wants to implement all of the above. He's absolutely not going to be kept in check by Congress; it is in fact the other way around. Congress will allowed to run rampant with no check on them.

I am so tired of this 'marginalized and hurting' shit. Trump had plenty of gay support and plenty of trans support. A sexual orientation is not a voting bloc.

you're blowing this way out of proportion JMorph
Not really, this is clearly something that trump and Pence have tlaked about expanding, along with conversion camps and the like.

To think that they wont act on their promises is to think that people elected them thinking their promises were fake.
Even if they dont end up doing it the population very obviously and straight up told the world they agree with these courses of actions, with the walls, with everything.

Usa is a clown place politically right now that elected a reality tv show star that promised to be as racist as possible. Thats a pretty tough act to follow.

The americans chose to support this.

USA elected an anti-corruption outsider who pledged to fix their broken political system and faced the biggest political smears in history because he dared to run against the establishment and win. There is no fucking racism, and the constant false accusations of racism are why he won. Americans chose to support someone who stood up to people like you who called them racist every time they disagreed with the establishment.

I do like how after Trump won the left are showing their true colors. There is no need to be so hostile to people over who they voted for and it's going to make others not want to express their opinion on politics if this trend continues here.
im the left being hostile to the poor poor right by telling someone to not hotlink from a racist site over how the picture will be gone in hours.
Im sorry I've triggered you, ill try to do better next time and not use the D-word


Now 4chan is racist? Grow the fuck up, dude.

Quote
a bunch of posts about racist spray-paint

If there's one thing statistics have told us over the last couple of years, hate crimes aren't on the rise. Fake hate crimes are. People lying to further their narrative of how racist bigots are everywhere and punching themselves in the face happens more fucking often than actual racist hate. It's insanity.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 06:49:06 pm
A person cannot be demonized for who supports him because he cannot control who supports him.
"the kkk supports him" always seemed like an irrelevant talking point to me. terrible groups and people will always support one of the two choices and there's nothing they can do about it. it would only be a talking point if trump said something like "i'm glad to have the support of the kkk. i know some of them and they're great people. great, great people. you're gonna love the kkk. they will help this nation bigly"
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 10, 2016, 06:53:00 pm
When it comes to the Muslim thing,Trump removed that quote from his own site the second he got elected.
It was pretty obvious he wasn't gonna go through with that so I didn't really care tbh but I can easily see why its disliked(Because its a jab against an entire religion,yea)

And I'm pretty sure Iced doesn't really think 4chan is racist Snakebyte,he was goofing around with Niitris about the picture host,he ain't childish
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 06:57:27 pm

I do like how after Trump won the left are showing their true colors. There is no need to be so hostile to people over who they voted for and it's going to make others not want to express their opinion on politics if this trend continues here.
im the left being hostile to the poor poor right by telling someone to not hotlink from a racist site over how the picture will be gone in hours.
Im sorry I've triggered you, ill try to do better next time and not use the D-word


Now 4chan is racist? Grow the fuck up, dude.

Ive likely been using the site for longer than you, and the racist chan I was mentioning is POL, which he was directly hotlinking from.

But if you have no issue with being associated with pol, Sure thing my little redpilled buddy.
But not here. Dont post links to pol  here, but remember to share on facebook and tag your family.
Row row, fight the power T-word.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 06:59:12 pm
I was more just picking on the word 'disenfranchisement' there, as he's never said anything about taking votes away from anyone. Trump walked back anything to do with his Muslim ban before the last debate. At this point, and you can mock me for giving him the benefit of the doubt or being a conspiracy theorist here if you like, I think it was a ploy from the very start. In a number of cases, he took a very extreme stance, and this got him support from a base that supported these stances that no other politician was supporting as well as a lot of media attention, and then he gradually walked them back into something sane.

It's just 'extreme vetting' for Muslims now, aka exactly the same as Hillary's position but with the word 'extreme' on it.

'Blast processing vetting'.

Iced: Okay, fair enough, my bad.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 07:09:26 pm
He was not bragging about sexual assault, because sexual assault is what happens when you don't get consent and he was bragging about how much consent he gets.
No. "I can grab them by the pussy and they won't say anything because of how wealthy I am" is sexual assault. He's not getting consent from every single contestant of those beauty pageants before he walks in on them changing and say "it's okay, I'm here to supervise", he just does it and he knows they'll shut their mouth (and that is sexual assault). He's not getting consent and then grabbing them, he's grabbing them and being sure that they'll shut their mouth because he has so much money he's pressuring them and they know he'll sue them into the ground or kick them out of the pageant. Which is exactly what he said he'd do to the bunch of women who have come together to denounce how he harassed them like that.
All those things he bragged about are the definition of sexual assault. Even more so when he then denies it by saying "these women are so ugly, who would believe I did that".
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 07:11:45 pm
'They let you do it'.

'Let'.

Consent.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 10, 2016, 07:12:29 pm
My coping mechanism is to try not to do the same with Trump as everyone did with Obama and Hillary. Fear the absolute worse. It's always possible but typically unlikely. Kinda like when gun nuts go crazy saying Obama is taking their guns or Hillary is taking all their guns and crap. There are tons of examples people were going nuts over with Obama that were not true at all and the same for Hillary. We sensationalize everything so freaking much it's ridiculous.

I mean it's never impossible. But generally it's improbable.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 07:15:28 pm
I am genuinely concerned about the amount of civil unrest and assassination threats occurring in response to Trump's victory.

I see a lot of people on the right saying 'we didn't do this when Obama was elected, it's clear who the violent and irrational ones really are' but I honestly don't know if that happened when Obama was elected, I wasn't paying attention, and I've seen a whole lot of irrationality and hatred directed at Obama later on.

Y'all need to be less polarized. It's getting dangerous.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 07:18:44 pm
'They let you do it'.

'Let'.

Consent.
It's not consent if it's AFTER he's already done it. The "let" is only saying that they're not pulling his hand out or kicking him out of the changing room and going to the police. Because he has money and he'll sue them. Which is exactly what he does all the time.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 07:22:03 pm
Huffington Post is such a reliable source, isn't it?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 07:22:59 pm
I don't read HuffPost.
But what difference does that make since everyone who says bad things about Trump is a corrupt media.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 07:26:11 pm
I see a lot of people on the right saying 'we didn't do this when Obama was elected, it's clear who the violent and irrational ones really are' but I honestly don't know if that happened when Obama was elected, I wasn't paying attention, and I've seen a whole lot of irrationality and hatred directed at Obama later on.

They didn't.

I mean, you have literal protests on city streets simply because the Democratic process didn't go in their favor. Yeah there's some nuance to that, cities have less conservatives. But in context, stuff like this wasn't happening in Bush 2004, or even Bush 2000. Which I'd know because I lived there. This isn't normal.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 07:27:44 pm
In contrast, I'm given to understand you did have exactly this with Brexit.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dcat on November 10, 2016, 07:29:10 pm
I'm hesistant to comment on this because this election is very polarizing but. I've accepted the outcome as fair. Here's why:

He won because he had supporters that showed up to the polls and turned out for him. She lost because our supporters were far too concerned with having a purist unsullied politician and the majority of our electorate weren't empathetic to the plight of the minority groups, African Americans, Hispanics, people of color lgbt members, or women that were fearful of the rhetoric spouted by the other side during this entire campaign.

What I'm most upset about is NOT the End Result , No rather I'm mad that the televised and social media spin has tried to shoulder all of the blame for this outcome solely on a lack of turnout from these minority groups for reasons as to why she didn't get enough votes. That's a false narrative. Minority groups do not hold Majority power, they never have, that's why they are called minorities. Being scapegoated by the Dominant group as a means of explanation only further adds insult to injury and is NOT what went down on Tuesday night.

And To be absolutely clear, minority groups voted en masse for the Democratic candidate, because they are understandably fearful of what a demagogic leader who capitalizes on fear, tragedy & hatred like our now President-Elect  means for the lives and livelihoods of their existence. People of Color, those with migrant family members, members of the LGBTQIA community, and those with non-Christian faiths; these were the individuals who were directly challenged and harangued by the hate-speech and extremist rhetoric of the vast majority of supporters of the Republican Nominee, & now President-Elect during this election cycle.

This final result of our soon to be 45th ever President Of The United States is due in large part to the one group not accurately represented by the polls on the news every night- White Millenials. It was those Liberal minded, left-leaning predominantly Caucasian millennials who CHOSE to check out of the entire election after Bernie Sanders was eliminated. It was these people that were the most vocal in their undecided-ness, it was these people who touted the "NeverHillary" mantra, it was these people who were fed up with both parties and launched protest votes. Because they have the privilege afforded to them to remain neutral during this campaign.

They had no clear stake in the matter and figured other people,(minority groups) would shoulder the burden of electing a Democrat to the office,  when they are the ones with the larger numbers that make up the majority of the American electorate for all major parties. Quite understandably they are upset with the final result and they have guilt over their deliberate and conscious choice to Opt-Out of our Democratic election process, so now they are the ones who are throwing drum circles and marches on the streets of various American cities. Sorry friends but where was all of this mobilization and get up and go 48 hours ago? Choosing not to exercise your power in the voting booth and then sliding into the fray once the final bell has been sounded DOES NOT COUNT. Its a day late and a dollar short.

 Liberal White millennials who abstained from voting since they just "weren't excited" about this election or "didn't trust" the first woman nominee or who "filed a protest vote" will have to carry that knowledge with them for the next 4 and possibly 8 years. Falling back on #HASHTAG ACTIVISM and milling around in the streets cannot undo this and it does not leave you off the hook for your failure in our democracy. Neither does placing the blame on those who actually DID show up to the polls but not with "Obama-Coalition" type numbers. At least we showed up, what's your excuse? The one rule of elections that has always remained true and bears repeating here is that if you didn't vote, then you don't get the right to complain about the result.

Those Social Justice Liberal abstainers that "don't see race" or who were "Un-Invested in the 2016 Presidential cycle" or who "disliked either candidate equally", or who "just couldn't get excited about the election this year" will have to carry their inaction with them for the rest of our collective days. They are saying to all of those that are fearful and frightened of this new President-Elect's regime that when they saw racism, division, hatred, xenophobia & misogny being sewn into the fabric of our nation on the world stage, that they just weren't affected enough by it to speak out at the ballot box. That they didn't care enough about OUR American country to try at all.

This result was fair, this election was fair. This was NOT my preferred outcome, but the massive wave of inaction that plagued the Democratic and Liberal electorate this year bears this result. No amount of Monday morning-quarterbacking or mobilizing on the streets the day AFTER election night or griping about the Electoral College will change that. Get off the street, go home, and next time VOTE people. 

That's all I have to say about that.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 07:32:18 pm
Well said.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 07:32:44 pm
In contrast, I'm given to understand you did have exactly this with Brexit.

Oh no I'm still in America, VA to be exact, I meant I lived in NYC at the time. :P
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 10, 2016, 07:34:16 pm
Oh man I was about to make the "old fogey" post about why it's different this time than it was in over the previous elections but DCat more or less made it for me
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 07:36:39 pm
Incorrect on a few points. Based on election stats, Trump got a significantly larger portion of the minority vote than Romney did. And it's not that people aren't sympathetic to the 'plight of minorities', it's that they don't believe that 'minorities' represent one opinion, and instead are a diverse collection of people with individual interests, thoughts, and desires. Plenty of 'minorities' were strongly against Clinton because of her pandering and taking their support for granted, when Trump's economic policies had more of an effect on their lives. Plenty of 'minorities' didn't fall for the media fearmongering about Trump, or the Clinton campaign's scare tactics.

This is a false narrative. The 'hate speech' bullshit is just that, bullshit spewed by one side to make you think they're the only moral side to vote for.

People are people. People aren't victims because of their gender or skin color. People don't speak in one voice because they have the same gender or skin color. It doesn't work that way. All of this 'racism, division, hatred, xenophobia & misogyny' talk is just another means of demonizing dissent, belittling your opponent, shaming people into agreeing with you, avoiding discussing the issues. That is what this election was a referendum on. That is what the American people aren't putting up with any longer.

Respect the human. The world isn't out to get you.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 10, 2016, 07:37:15 pm
'They let you do it'.

'Let'.

Consent.
"Let" with the very clear and obvious context of "they let me do it because they are rightly terrified that I will use my wealth and power to destroy their life it they accuse me of anything." 

Holy fucking shit dude you are literally defending sexual assault as something that's okay if the victim is too scared to speak up are you actually serious right now. 
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 07:42:18 pm
No, the context is that people are attracted to fame and money. Holy fucking shit dude.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 07:44:15 pm
Have you not seen the countless times he sued people who demanded to be paid or the very recent time he straight up said he was going to sue all those women that banded together a couple weeks ago as soon as he was elected how the fuck can you blind yourself so hard he literally fucking said that over national television what the fuck is wrong with you
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 07:45:36 pm
If people were falsely accusing me of sexual assault, I too would want to sue the shit out of them. Several of the accusers have already withdrawn their claims and admitted to it being a hoax, including the 'child rape' one (and yes, this is being reported on by all the media, not just the pro-Trump media).
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 07:46:16 pm
Thats literally not what the context is.

That's a possible subtext. The context is literally that he can grab your mom by the pussy and she wont be able to do anything to stop him.

There's a reason even the guy that was insisting in waterboarding prisoners, nuking the enemies and kidnapping the families of terrorists to torture them had to clarify that the words he said didnt represent him as a person and somewhat apologize.

Sad!
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 10, 2016, 07:47:26 pm
All your defending points for Trump I can go with except the "pussy grabbing" one. If he grabs before they say it's okay then that's assault. Some may have been star struck and found it okay. But you can't suggest 100% of them were like that.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: PineappleProducer on November 10, 2016, 07:49:55 pm
It was still very convenient of them to stay hush on the matter til right before the election.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 07:51:29 pm
Iced: That's literally not the context. You are flat out lying right now.

JNP: I'm inclined to look at it as boasting. I highly doubt he actually grabbed any women by the pussy, I think he was bragging about how women throw themselves at him and exaggerating the fuck out of it to appear more manly to the person he was talking to. I think he's probably a pretty sleazy guy. However, I think it's absolutely wrong to say that he was going around intentionally assaulting or raping people. He's a sleazy womanizer, he's probably been too forward because of his own perception of how much people love him, he's probably gotten slapped a few times, but I think any claim that he admitted to going on after he knew consent wasn't given is obviously false.

I'm not excusing his comment here as much as I am attacking the people taking it a step farther than it actually went and saying 'Trump is literally a rapist who rapes and thinks rape is okay!'.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 07:53:25 pm
I'm not excusing his comment here as much as I am attacking the people taking it a step farther than it actually went and saying 'Trump is literally a rapist who rapes and thinks rape is okay!'.
Which is nobody here.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 10, 2016, 07:53:54 pm
No, the context is that people are attracted to fame and money. Holy fucking shit dude.
If any of it was in any way actually consensual, he wouldn't need to qualify it with "they won't say anything."  That means he knew that they would want to say something, but could be pressured not to.

If people were falsely accusing me of sexual assault, I too would want to sue the shit out of them. Several of the accusers have already withdrawn their claims and admitted to it being a hoax, including the 'child rape' one (and yes, this is being reported on by all the media, not just the pro-Trump media).

So what you're saying is that the fact that the allegations only went away after Trump threatened to destroy these people's lives with his money and political influence somehow proves that they were lying and Trump never did anything wrong?  What color is the sky in your world?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 10, 2016, 07:55:24 pm
Yo Person Man..do you have any proof for your accusations?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 10, 2016, 07:55:40 pm
I don't know or care if he's an actual rapist. And you may be right that he was exaggerating. But it doesn't help that he said it. We can't read his mind. And with his power it's not unbelievable. I think it'd be easier to just concede on this one and say "Yeah, he said a fucked up thing"
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GDM on November 10, 2016, 07:58:51 pm
This shit makes me want to drink
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 08:01:59 pm
I didn't even like it as a thing period. It was an obvious smear attempt, and it's part of the reason why the Dems lost. Instead of trying to appeal to their base (disenfranchised Bernie supporters in particular), they were so hell bent on attacking the next coming of Hitler, and yet did very little to assert any positive points (the very little they had) they possesed.

Contrary to what the media wanted you to believe, there was no enthusiasm for the Clinton campaign. (https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14910338_10154620990608373_2591032810991521339_n.jpg?oh=ef3453e6a9de8e9d2560525e999c2577&oe=58955394) Just "yeah well, Trump's a shitbag..." no duh? Liberals were doing the same thing, and attacked anyone who wanted to talk about anything outside the obvious. Any surprise why they lost?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 08:02:35 pm
Person Man: We condemn people based on the decisions of courts, not on accusations by people that only come out of the woodwork when it's politically expedient.

JNP: He may well have actually sexually assaulted people, but I don't think he set out to do so, he just assumed people would be so in love with him and his wallet that they'd be into it. This is fucked up, but nowhere near as fucked up as continuing after it's clear consent isn't given.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 10, 2016, 08:03:14 pm
Yo Person Man..do you have any proof for your accusations?

The man's own words.  And besides, my point was never to say that he actually did any of those things, but that he's the kind of degenerate who believes it's okay to sexually assault women and intimidate them into not speaking up.  Even if he never actually did it, the fact that he could so casually joke around about getting away with it whenever he wants remains.  And that's the problem.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 08:05:20 pm
Didn't happen. He was joking about how sexually attracted women are to him.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 10, 2016, 08:05:53 pm
I am so tired of this 'marginalized and hurting' shit.
Too fucking bad?

Please tell me why abortion rights being restricted doesn't hurt the already marginalized. Please tell me why expanding "religious freedom" bills that legalize the discrimination of queer people doesn't hurt the already marginalized. Please tell me why eliminating the environmental protection regulations that try and curb global warming doesn't hurt the already marginalized (and not so marginalized).

These are not exaggerations. This is not fear-mongering. These are actual policy decisions that the House, the Senate, and now the executive branch have all advocated for. They are all serious problems right now, problems that needed serious fixing, before this election. And now even the meager attemps at fixing them will be rolled back.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 10, 2016, 08:07:32 pm
@PersonMan

No no no..I meant your

"So what you're saying is that the fact that the allegations only went away after Trump threatened to destroy these people's lives with his money and political influence somehow proves that they were lying and Trump never did anything wrong?  What color is the sky in your world?"

part. Do you have any proof for your accusation that Trump threatened these people with the power of his money and political influences?


I just think thats a damn bold accusation, and nobody should post something like that in a public forum without any proof.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 08:09:00 pm
Didn't happen. He was joking about how sexually attracted women are to him.
That didn't happen.

Him walking into the changing room full with the contestants and going "it's fine, I'm here to supervise" is not bragging about them being attracted to him, it's bragging about blatant voyeurism. Because he knows they won't say anything.
It's not a succession of isolated events, it's a story as a whole. Everything he says points to the same thing, and all together, there's no way to keep thinking what you say is indeed what he means.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 08:09:48 pm
Jmorphman: Abortion rights affect women. A majority of white women voted for Trump. Women aren't a victim class. They don't have all the same opinions. They aren't 'marginalized'. They're choosing the candidate they want. Just like plenty of gay people voted for Trump.

You disagree with these things. I get it. I disagree with some of them too. What you don't get to do is claim that every member of a gender or a sexual orientation agrees with you, or is being attacked by these things. Identity politics is fucking garbage and obscures real discussion over issues that matter. It takes away people's ability to disagree with you if they aren't a straight white male. It's actually bigoted.

Byakko: You would be correct if that was a thing that actually happened in real life.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 08:11:27 pm
Byakko: You would be correct if that was a thing that actually happened in real life.
But... That's his own word. It doesn't matter if you're selectively accepting what he says, it doesn't even matter if he was exaggerating or flat out lying to make himself look "good" (somehow), the fact is that this is a thing he himself said. It's a story that shows that his entire character is not about other people loving him, it's about him doing what the hell he wants BECAUSE he knows no one will complain. BECAUSE he has money.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Roman55 on November 10, 2016, 08:12:02 pm
This shit makes me want to drink
Speak for yourself, I've drank so much cause of this my blood can be considered natural fuel.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: GDM on November 10, 2016, 08:12:14 pm
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Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 08:16:18 pm
Byakko: To the best of knowledge, you're wrong. If you'd like to prove me wrong, provide a source.

edit: I've got some things to do. If Byakko proves me wrong, a lack of response doesn't mean I ran away crying or anything. I'll be back in like half an hour probably.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dcat on November 10, 2016, 08:21:57 pm
Incorrect on a few points. Based on election stats, Trump got a significantly larger portion of the minority vote than Romney did. And it's not that people aren't sympathetic to the 'plight of minorities', it's that they don't believe that 'minorities' represent one opinion, and instead are a diverse collection of people with individual interests, thoughts, and desires.
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@Snakebyte: To be clear it was a fair election, I got no problem with that. Trump won I agree. I also maintain that its hypocritical for all these Democratic folks to be marching on the streets and claiming that he's illegitimate. That's wrong and equally divisive, and I don't support it. But let's be real here, just cause Trump got "More Latino voters than Romney did" doesn't mean he got the majority- 70% of Hispanics still voted for Hillary.

My post was more from the perspective of the Democrat's larger failure here, Republicans handled it this time. I got no quarrel with you about that. I'm saying that on our side, these folks that claimed that they were such staunch allies for social justice failed their fellow Democrats by abstaining from the vote.

 I understand not all Trump supporters are bigoted, but it cannot be denied that capitalizing on race-baiting was a rallying cry for some in his campaign (see Muslim Ban, Mexico Border Wall, or Black experience in America being reduced to worst case, lowest denominator scenarios), and from a Purely Liberal point of view, if that rhetoric wasn't a dire enough concern to get you motivated to vote this time then you were doing Liberalism wrong. I can concede (for the sake of argument) that no one side has a true moral majority over the other, but ALL I'm saying here is that on the side which CLAIMS to have a moral Human Rights and Social justice component to it, there was a real failure in the sheer amount of inaction that Young Liberals displayed this time. You don't get to abdicate your Democratic duty,check out of the process, and then complain after the fact that the Electoral College is bogus.

The larger critique of my post was NOT the Trump campaign or his supporters, my issue is with the "NeverHillary" Liberals and my millennial allies that did not pull their weight at the polls this time. Like it or not, Trump is our President. Its the facts and I'm big enough to accept that, unlike a large majority of Democrats that refused to participate this time.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 08:26:17 pm
From a purely liberal point of view, because believe it or not that's where I come from, what I take issue with is the race-baiting from Hillary's campaign, and calling everyone racists and sexists for reasonable opinions. I didn't abdicate from my side, I flat-out oppose what it's become.

Muslims are a religion, not a race. The Mexico border wall has absolutely nothing to do with race and everything to do with illegal immigration. You might have a point with the black thing, but that's a fairly subtle point and not one I've heard before.

I agree with most of both your posts, for the record. If you didn't vote, you have no right to complain.

(I didn't afk yet, I am now afking)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 08:30:31 pm
I too detest how common extreme liberalism has become, it's kinda sad to look at.

I'm saying that on our side, these folks that claimed that they were such staunch allies for social justice failed their fellow Democrats by abstaining from the vote.

This pretty much.
You don't get to complain about the results when you don't participate. Or abandon your values and then cry foul when your mistake is realized.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 08:30:44 pm
Byakko: To the best of knowledge, you're wrong. If you'd like to prove me wrong, provide a source.
Wrong ? What part of what I said is "wrong" ? Are you seriously saying I'm wrong about that quote where he said those things ? Are you just flat out denying that it's him in this recorded interview where he says it ??
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: PineappleProducer on November 10, 2016, 08:32:55 pm
He's just requesting a source. If it's true, then there should be no issue in providing it.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jmorphman on November 10, 2016, 08:40:23 pm
Jmorphman: Abortion rights affect women. A majority of white women voted for Trump. Women aren't a victim class. They don't have all the same opinions. They aren't 'marginalized'. They're choosing the candidate they want. Just like plenty of gay people voted for Trump.
Women who want an abortion, but can't get them, are by definition marginalized. That's who I'm referring to. And it's a group that's been growing more and more, as states enact harsh anti-abortion laws designed to restrict the constitutional right to choose. In a year or so, the Supreme Court will be hearing cases related to this issue, and will almost certainly affirm the constitutionality of those statutes, paving the way for more states to enact similar laws, and allow states that currently have those laws on the books (but were unable to enact them due to court orders) to fully implement them, which will in many cases leave places with only one abortion provider in the entire state.

You disagree with these things. I get it. I disagree with some of them too. What you don't get to do is claim that every member of a gender or a sexual orientation agrees with you, or is being attacked by these things.
I would appreciate it if you didn't contort my words in order to advance your vapid point. I have tried to restrict my posts to actual policy talk; I am not interested in discussing the supporters of either campaign here, because these policies I've been bringing up throughout this thread are all pretty clear cut, and can be discussed simply and plainly as things that are certain to come into effect.

I asked you a series of questions about how individual policies that are guaranteed to be enacted that will worsen or expand policies already in place that affect the lives and conditions of people who are already suffering.

Women who learn, late in their term, that their babies are nonviable and that the fetus must be aborted or both it and the mother will die during birth already have trouble securing access to aboetion services; this election means thay these policies will spread, and be given legal protection. In 31 states, someone can be fired simply because of their sexual orientation, and it's all completely legal; this election means that these laws will see their constitutionally affirmed, setting back all progress in trying to overturn them. Coastal cities in Florida and elsewhere are experiencing more and more flooding, and as these communities struggle to deal with the rising water level and changing climate, attempts to combat global warming have been extremely slow to act; this election means that even those pathetic attempts at mitigating the damage of climate change will all be rolled back, accelerating the coming global crisis that is climate change.

I am still awaiting an answer to why all of these things are not going to hurt people.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 08:42:43 pm
He's just requesting a source. If it's true, then there should be no issue in providing it.
Google any combination of Trump dressing rooms beauty pageant, that recording with transcript is all over the web and TV and all news sites, what's with the denial
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 08:46:13 pm
Jmorph: It's possible I misinterpreted you. If that's the case, I apologize. It didn't look like you had a reasonable definition of 'suffering' and were applying it in broad swathes to minority groups, but this latest post makes it seem like I was mistaken.

Byakko: You said it's a story he told. He didn't. I'll keep waiting on that source.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 08:51:25 pm
Google any combination of Trump dressing rooms beauty pageant, that recording with transcript is all over the web and TV and all news sites, what's with the denial
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/08/politics/trump-on-howard-stern/index.html said:
"Well, what you could also say is that, as the owner of the pageant, it's your obligation to do that," Trump said, before discussing how he got away with going backstage when the contestants were naked.
"Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that before a show, I'll go backstage and everyone's getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it," Trump said. "You know, I'm inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good."
"You know, the dresses. 'Is everyone okay?' You know, they're standing there with no clothes. 'Is everybody okay?' And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good," he added.
Like I said, there's an actual goddamn recording of him talking and saying those things. It's been going around everywhere. How did you miss it ? Are you claiming that's not Donald Trump ??
This alone sounds like a tiny little thing of no consequence. This together with everything else including the bragging about women not chasing him off when he grabs them, and the threats to sue whenever a woman actually complains about things he did, is a much bigger concern. Again, those are all things he himself said.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 08:58:38 pm
Huh. I'll be damned.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 10, 2016, 09:02:54 pm
By the way, his phrasing "I get away with things like that" very clearly implies that he knows he's not supposed to do that. All the things he says, he's not bragging that women are eager for him to do these things, he's saying that they don't come up and complain about him, even though it's obvious it makes everyone uncomfortable, but he gets away with that (that is, until they speak up and he threatens to sue). And he's been in this business for, what, a decade or two ? This is what his life is.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 09:06:09 pm
I was under the impression this was something being claimed by the contestants, and refuted by other contestants. I genuinely thought you were wrong about it coming out of his mouth.

Still, it doesn't matter. I'm not going to let pearl-clutching offense-taking bullshit distract me from issues that actually affect the presidency.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Mechy on November 10, 2016, 09:11:58 pm
Well I mean, it's kinda fucked up that he can be the president of the united states with all that going on. A guy can get accused of rape and not even get a job at a gas station till it's legally made very clear he did not actually do it.

Oh yeah, I guess the actual rape charge did get dropped one day after his victory. Incredible timing.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 10, 2016, 09:16:46 pm
There were 2 actually.
1 got dropped like 4 days before he got elected as it was proven to be fake(With,what seems to be,no negative influnce on the chick that lied,what the fuck) and one after he got elected(This was about some blonde chick but idk the details about it)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 09:17:11 pm
The incredible timing was the rape charge only showing up when it looked like he had a chance of winning.

edit: Also, in general, people are innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Mechy on November 10, 2016, 09:22:06 pm
Well im not saying he did it. But if he did, then of course she would drop it anyway, since she would be fully aware that he would never suffer any consequences for it now.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 10, 2016, 09:28:17 pm
pearl-clutching offense-taking bullshit

Christ on a cracker you really are serious, aren't you?  This isn't some puffed-up SJW fake drama because he referred to a group of people as 'guys' instead of a gender-neutral term.  This is the future leader of one of the largest nations on the planet openly bragging about how he can get away with sexual assault whenever he wants.  What kind of bubble do you have to wrap yourself into to reach a point where you can pretend that doesn't matter at all?  How willfully ignorant can a single person be?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 10, 2016, 09:30:01 pm
Huh. I'll be damned.
Dont worry! He's on it!

Its funny to me that most of the defense about him is that he didnt really meant any of the things he kept saying hes going to do. Or he said them or its not REALLY like that, Or he said them but it doesnt really matter because he's the guy to support.

Even tho those things he promised and kept saying are what lead a lot of people to vote for him. Attempts to point out how fucked up the things he claims are, are quickly dismissed or painted as being pearl clutching,

Even Nixon had to hide his criminal intent.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 09:34:10 pm
No, he's not bragging about getting away with sexual assault, how many times do I have to say this...? He's bragging about how much women love him.

I think things like, I don't know, not going to war with Russia and fighting against government corruption are far more important than him assuming people were in to his sexual advances. I think things that affect the power balance of the entire world matter far more than this, I repeat, pearl-clutching offensive-taking bullshit.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 10, 2016, 09:40:20 pm
So you're saying that activity that would haunt a less wealthy person for literally the rest of their life is perfectly acceptable if you're rich and powerful enough.

Forgive me for being of the mind that elected officials should be held to the same ethical standards as your average janitor or drive-through attendant.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Mechy on November 10, 2016, 09:40:38 pm
I don't think the argument is that because of that stuff alone Trump should not be in office, but that because of that stuff he really should not have been allowed to get anywhere near running in the first place. So maybe then you could have had some republican candidate who's less generally repulsive and incompetent. But alas, here we are.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 09:44:42 pm
Trump is extremely competent. All other candidates were either repulsive, incompetent, or some combination thereof. Stop taking offense at irrelevant bullshit and start judging people on their ability to do a job and the policies they propose rather than complete moral purity.

Do I really need to bring up Bill Clinton here? Do I really need to bring up all of the criminal things Hillary has done as a politician that she got away with because of her wealth and power? That politicians get away with every day? You're railing against Trump for being a creep when he's a force against people who are far, far, far worse. It's short-sighted and suicidal.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Mechy on November 10, 2016, 09:52:21 pm
You don't really. Im not American, so im just saying off of what I have read and seen about Trump himself. I know next to nothing about Clinton or her politics.

But I mean, Trump is the guy who did talk about the wall thing. An absurdly massive construction project that he was apparently going force Mexico to pay for (How? Threaten to invade them?). Either he was serious about that, which would mean he's a lunatic, totally out of touch about reality or he lied to rally up racist idiots to get himself elected, which is not much better.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on November 10, 2016, 09:56:15 pm
Well, i hope against hope Trump was just going heel to win the election but i honestly don't think so. Still i believe in us as a people, he can't break us. He might fuck a lot of things up but we will survive. First time i ever voted for a Democrat, i don't like a lot of things about Hillary but the policies Trump and Pence did speak on more than vaguely didn't sit well with me at all.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 09:58:03 pm
It's the bait the media wanted the common person to take. Damn good one though, trolls can only dream of bait like that.

Molesting women is an easier topic to grasp than systematically imperalizing third world countries.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 09:59:03 pm
Re: The wall, I can answer some of that. He was going to force Mexico to pay for it indirectly, by raising taxes on trade to and from Mexico--I don't know the details, but it was a viable plan even though it sounds stupid when you summarize it. Also, it was partly to address the drug trade, which I think is a fair point.

I don't know if he's going to build it, I don't really care if he does or not, and it might have just been something he said to get noticed early on like the Muslim ban apparently was.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 10, 2016, 10:04:55 pm
Trump is extremely competent. All other candidates were either repulsive, incompetent, or some combination thereof. Stop taking offense at irrelevant bullshit and start judging people on their ability to do a job and the policies they propose rather than complete moral purity.

Do I really need to bring up Bill Clinton here? Do I really need to bring up all of the criminal things Hillary has done as a politician that she got away with because of her wealth and power? That politicians get away with every day? You're railing against Trump for being a creep when he's a force against people who are far, far, far worse. It's short-sighted and suicidal.

Nobody has said anything about any of the other candidates.  The fact of the matter remains that there wasn't a single good option in this entire election.

But Donald Trump is, by his own actions, a disgusting, arrogant, racist, sexist, walking talking example of everything that is wrong with modern society.  He ran a campaign that played on ignorance, prejudices, and fear-mongering, suggesting outrageous policies such as forcing Muslims to carry special identification so they can be found easier and spending billions of taxpayer dollars on a federally funded witch hunt to deport Hispanic people to trick idiots into thinking that he'd actually do that so they'd vote for him, only to backpedal and pretend he never said it whenever he was asked about it.  And the fact that he seems to be planning on foisting off all of the actual work of the Presidency off on his VP calls some serious doubts as to whether he actually understands anything at all about the office he's slithered his way into.

So yeah.  It's not exactly "irrelevant bullshit" to feel a little upset that the creepy uncle that wanted to play touchy games when your parents left the room is now the one in charge of the country.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Mechy on November 10, 2016, 10:06:50 pm
Re: The wall, I can answer some of that. He was going to force Mexico to pay for it indirectly, by raising taxes on trade to and from Mexico--I don't know the details, but it was a viable plan even though it sounds stupid when you summarize it. Also, it was partly to address the drug trade, which I think is a fair point.

I don't know if he's going to build it, I don't really care if he does or not, and it might have just been something he said to get noticed early on like the Muslim ban apparently was.
So just fuck Mexico? Alright. I mean the drug trade is kinda far worse on them then it is on the US.

I guess being dishonest is fine as long as it's the guy you voted for yourself.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 10:08:54 pm
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But Donald Trump is, by his own actions, a disgusting, arrogant, racist, sexist, walking talking example of everything that is wrong with modern society.  He ran a campaign that played on ignorance, prejudices, and fear-mongering, suggesting outrageous policies such as forcing Muslims to carry special identification so they can be found easier and spending billions of taxpayer dollars on a federally funded witch hunt to deport Hispanic people to trick idiots into thinking that he'd actually do that so they'd vote for him, only to backpedal and pretend he never said it whenever he was asked about it.  And the fact that he seems to be planning on foisting off all of the actual work of the Presidency off on his VP calls some serious doubts as to whether he actually understands anything at all about the office he's slithered his way into.

So yeah.  It's not exactly "irrelevant bullshit" to feel a little upset that the creepy uncle that wanted to play touchy games when your parents left the room is now the one in charge of the country.

This kind of rhetoric is exactly why Trump won. The people you are calling racist, ignorant, disgusting, all that? They told you to go fuck yourself.

Listen. Change. Engage disagreement instead of demonizing it.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 10, 2016, 10:13:12 pm
That's not fucking rhetoric, that's literally what happened.  It is an objective description of events as they occurred.  Fucking excuse me if I don't feel inclined to sit down and listen to someone who repeatedly pushed the narrative of "the brown people are causing all of your problems, vote for me and I'll throw them all out."
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Mechy on November 10, 2016, 10:14:24 pm
Listen. Change. Engage disagreement instead of demonizing it.
But isn't demonizing exactly what Trump did in regards to Hispanics, Muslims and transgender people?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 10:17:15 pm
No, it isn't. That's what the Hillary campaign and the mainstream media told you he was doing. To take just one of those things, it isn't racist to take a stand against illegal immigration. That's complete fucking nonsense.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 10, 2016, 10:19:08 pm
transgender people?
The man fought for special transgender bathrooms(Alternatively,letting Trans people choose what bathroom they want) and has spoken against violence on homosexual people in his speeches.
As for hispanics,he only really talked about Mexicans and how most Illegal immigrants from Mexico engage in criminal activity.
He did talk about a ban on muslims entering the states for a while,or having to go through certain check ups before going in,but his recent actions related to this make it seem unlikely that he's gonna even try to do it

Edit:Why isnt Person Man a mod anymore,what happened
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Mechy on November 10, 2016, 10:22:01 pm
If his basis for taking a stand on illegal immigration had been based around the damage to economy it causes, then yeah sure, but his reason for it as stated by himself is because he thinks the people coming in are rapists, drug pushers and killers. That is straight up demonizing them. Like, even a fucking idiot can tell that people immigrate to escape bad situations and enviroments.

If he had no intention to do anything about Muslims, why did he demonize then publicly in the first place? Again to dishonestly rile up anti islam idiots to vote for him?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Person Man on November 10, 2016, 10:25:09 pm
No, it isn't. That's what the Hillary campaign and the mainstream media told you he was doing. To take just one of those things, it isn't racist to take a stand against illegal immigration. That's complete fucking nonsense.

So when Trump called for a full-stop ban on allowing people of Muslim faith from being allowed to enter the US because he thinks that they're all terrorists, or when he called Mexican people rapists and drug lords, I suppose that was what, Hillary Clinton talking through a shadow puppet?

Whatever.  I'm done trying to engage your apologist horseshit.  Sit in your little bubble ranting about mainstream media conspiracies to yourself.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on November 10, 2016, 10:29:26 pm
For better or worse Snake has the right to his opinion. He seems to actually believe what he is saying, i disagree but we will find out soon enough.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 10:30:00 pm
Mechy: Give that (http://www.salon.com/2015/12/21/the_media_needs_to_stop_telling_this_lie_about_donald_trump_im_a_sanders_supporter_and_value_honesty/) a read. While a majority of the people coming in aren't that, enough of them are for it to be a serious problem in some areas.

Person Man: Those things didn't happen. He called for a ban on Muslim immigration because it would stop those Muslims that are terrorists, and he had no better solution for picking them out. He did not ever call Mexicans rapists and drug lords, he talked about the rapists and drug lords that are Mexican. What it was was you lying, or at least being lied to, like most of the rest of your horseshit has been.

Good riddance. Take your misinformed hatred somewhere the fuck else.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 10, 2016, 10:34:45 pm
No, it isn't. That's what the Hillary campaign and the mainstream media told you he was doing. To take just one of those things, it isn't racist to take a stand against illegal immigration. That's complete fucking nonsense.

So when Trump called for a full-stop ban on allowing people of Muslim faith from being allowed to enter the US because he thinks that they're all terrorists, or when he called Mexican people rapists and drug lords, I suppose that was what, Hillary Clinton talking through a shadow puppet?

Whatever.  I'm done trying to engage your apologist horseshit.  Sit in your little bubble ranting about mainstream media conspiracies to yourself.

There was no full stop ban.  There was a "temporary suspension" and those are his exact words.  And he also never said it was because he thought they were all terrorists, it was to stop potential terrorists from entering the US.  I'm not happy about Trump either, but a lot of you just aren't even being fair right now.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 10, 2016, 10:36:09 pm
I think I'm gonna drop this and leave the thread.

Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: morbidjoe on November 10, 2016, 10:38:33 pm
well this is ... apparently when my sister went to here college she's been called a dirty Mexican
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 10:45:14 pm
Trump was indeed race-signaling, that's not a media spin. Numerous attacks on him were, but his intentions weren't.

The problem was people using that as an argument while ignoring or belittling everything else. And using it to vilify anyone who favored the orange dickface. Instead of acknowledging that some people favored him despite his flaws because the alternative was a governmental crony who's proven to fuck over citizens and countries for more money and power.

I know who Haiti prefers between the two.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Mechy on November 10, 2016, 10:49:46 pm
As I said before, I just think it's absurd the guy was ever allowed to run in the first place.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 10, 2016, 10:58:51 pm
I don't think you'll get any opposition that the choice this election was patently absurd
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on November 10, 2016, 10:59:58 pm
He summed up how i feel. I wasn't with Hillary either but i felt like better the devil you know. I saw Trump winning this if Bernie didn't get the nod. Hillary and The DNC thought they could just waltz her into office with little effort. She was exposed from the run with her and Obama, i don't see why they didn't see it. They just bullishly tried to shove her into office and this is what happened. I told a friend years ago that someone like Trump could get into office like this years ago. Why? Because people are being forced to be PC. Whether they are actually asking something legit or not they are labeled as racist, sexist or homophobic. So people just bottle it up inside and let their anger and hate fester. We never deal with things as a country we just largely pretend it doesn't exist, ignore or vilify people who do. That's not how you progress. A number of people in this country are still racist, sexist, homophobic, ignorant or both but forcing them into silence only makes it worst. So here comes Trump and he basically feeds off that and the fact that we do indeed have a lot of corrupt politicians (duh) but it works and here we are.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 10, 2016, 11:37:27 pm
http://www.businessinsider.com/why-new-balance-sneakers-are-being-set-on-fire-2016-11

Why this makes liberals look bad?
New Balance is like the only major shoe brand that doesn't primarily outsource to Asian sweatshops. People are burning shoes from the one company that cares about who makes them. All because they agreed with a Trump policy.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Sookoll on November 10, 2016, 11:38:37 pm
But I mean, Trump is the guy who did talk about the wall thing. An absurdly massive construction project that he was apparently going force Mexico to pay for (How? Threaten to invade them?).
Mexico receives over 300 million dollars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid) in economic assistance from the US each year, that money could go towards a building project that would create employment for Mexican builders.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dcat on November 10, 2016, 11:39:25 pm
I'm hesistant to comment on this because this election is very polarizing but. I've accepted the outcome as fair. Here's why:

He won because he had supporters that showed up to the polls and turned out for him. She lost because our supporters were far too concerned with having a purist unsullied politician and the majority of our electorate weren't empathetic to the plight of the minority groups, African Americans, Hispanics, people of color lgbt members, or women that were fearful of the rhetoric spouted by the other side during this entire campaign.

What I'm most upset about is NOT the End Result , No rather I'm mad that the televised and social media spin has tried to shoulder all of the blame for this outcome solely on a lack of turnout from these minority groups for reasons as to why she didn't get enough votes. That's a false narrative. Minority groups do not hold Majority power, they never have, that's why they are called minorities. Being scapegoated by the Dominant group as a means of explanation only further adds insult to injury and is NOT what went down on Tuesday night.

And To be absolutely clear, minority groups voted en masse for the Democratic candidate, because they are understandably fearful of what a demagogic leader who capitalizes on fear, tragedy & hatred like our now President-Elect  means for the lives and livelihoods of their existence. People of Color, those with migrant family members, members of the LGBTQIA community, and those with non-Christian faiths; these were the individuals who were directly challenged and harangued by the hate-speech and extremist rhetoric of the vast majority of supporters of the Republican Nominee, & now President-Elect during this election cycle.

This final result of our soon to be 45th ever President Of The United States is due in large part to the one group not accurately represented by the polls on the news every night- White Millenials. It was those Liberal minded, left-leaning predominantly Caucasian millennials who CHOSE to check out of the entire election after Bernie Sanders was eliminated. It was these people that were the most vocal in their undecided-ness, it was these people who touted the "NeverHillary" mantra, it was these people who were fed up with both parties and launched protest votes. Because they have the privilege afforded to them to remain neutral during this campaign.

They had no clear stake in the matter and figured other people,(minority groups) would shoulder the burden of electing a Democrat to the office,  when they are the ones with the larger numbers that make up the majority of the American electorate for all major parties. Quite understandably they are upset with the final result and they have guilt over their deliberate and conscious choice to Opt-Out of our Democratic election process, so now they are the ones who are throwing drum circles and marches on the streets of various American cities. Sorry friends but where was all of this mobilization and get up and go 48 hours ago? Choosing not to exercise your power in the voting booth and then sliding into the fray once the final bell has been sounded DOES NOT COUNT. Its a day late and a dollar short.

 Liberal White millennials who abstained from voting since they just "weren't excited" about this election or "didn't trust" the first woman nominee or who "filed a protest vote" will have to carry that knowledge with them for the next 4 and possibly 8 years. Falling back on #HASHTAG ACTIVISM and milling around in the streets cannot undo this and it does not leave you off the hook for your failure in our democracy. Neither does placing the blame on those who actually DID show up to the polls but not with "Obama-Coalition" type numbers. At least we showed up, what's your excuse? The one rule of elections that has always remained true and bears repeating here is that if you didn't vote, then you don't get the right to complain about the result.

Those Social Justice Liberal abstainers that "don't see race" or who were "Un-Invested in the 2016 Presidential cycle" or who "disliked either candidate equally", or who "just couldn't get excited about the election this year" will have to carry their inaction with them for the rest of our collective days. They are saying to all of those that are fearful and frightened of this new President-Elect's regime that when they saw racism, division, hatred, xenophobia & misogny being sewn into the fabric of our nation on the world stage, that they just weren't affected enough by it to speak out at the ballot box. That they didn't care enough about OUR American country to try at all.

This result was fair, this election was fair. This was NOT my preferred outcome, but the massive wave of inaction that plagued the Democratic and Liberal electorate this year bears this result. No amount of Monday morning-quarterbacking or mobilizing on the streets the day AFTER election night or griping about the Electoral College will change that. Get off the street, go home, and next time VOTE people. 

That's all I have to say about that.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 11:42:05 pm
that jonathan pie video was great. put him on tv. get rid of john oliver

Sit in your little bubble ranting about mainstream media conspiracies to yourself.
wikileaks proved a lot of those mainstream media conspiracies right. the mainstream media, the ones that were all spectacularly wrong about trump's chances, collaborated with clinton's campaign. not all mainstream media of course, but several important outlets. but please keep telling people that they're living in a fucking bubble because you don't agree with them
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 10, 2016, 11:43:25 pm
He summed up how i feel. I wasn't with Hillary either but i felt like better the devil you know. I saw Trump winning this if Bernie didn't get the nod. Hillary and The DNC thought they could just waltz her into office with little effort. She was exposed from the run with her and Obama, i don't see why they didn't see it. They just bullishly tried to shove her into office and this is what happened. I told a friend years ago that someone like Trump could get into office like this years ago. Why? Because people are being forced to be PC. Whether they are actually asking something legit or not they are labeled as racist, sexist or homophobic. So people just bottle it up inside and let their anger and hate fester. We never deal with things as a country we just largely pretend it doesn't exist, ignore or vilify people who do. That's not how you progress. A number of people in this country are still racist, sexist, homophobic, ignorant or both but forcing them into silence only makes it worst. So here comes Trump and he basically feeds off that and the fact that we do indeed have a lot of corrupt politicians (duh) but it works and here we are.


^that's pretty true
I know a ton that would be considered racists. It's not black and white though(pun?)

You don't vilify the slightest hints. You work with them slowly and help them see other sides. They may never come fully around but you can really help them see things better. As I said before I'm from Arkansas and when I 1st joined guild I was completely different. I won't say I'm perfect now by any means but looking back I was much much more intolerant, homophobic, and racist in general.

It was interacting with different cultures and people here and in the webcomic communities that has helped me expand. You'd have called me bigot or whatever years ago and I may have had an issue with it. Now I try to self reflect and see if I can improve instead.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 10, 2016, 11:49:43 pm
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There are those who get it, and those who never will.
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Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 12:01:57 am
It'd be real easy to laugh at everyone who's going apeshit over the outcome, but I feel sorry more than anything else. A huge litany of people (millennials they're commonly referred to as) are exposing themselves as people who can't open their minds to a viewpoint other than their own. Critical thinking skills has been replaced by attacking wrongspeak. It's just mind-blowing.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Chronan on November 11, 2016, 12:04:03 am
Here is another quality one, "Trump wants to have sex with his own daughter because he's an creepy guy!" Pretty funny right? And SCARY, because this is totally true and not some slanderous bullshit. I'm like Patton Oswalt but I can still sleep with my wife. And I've got 8 inches on him and I'm stunningly handsome to boot! So basically the only thing me and Patton have in common is both of us are assholes and no one actually cares about our opinions!

Whatever.  I'm done trying to engage your apologist horseshit.  Sit in your little bubble ranting about mainstream media conspiracies to yourself.
"I'm telling you I'm going to sit in my bubble, while I tell you to sit in your bubble."
You are admitting to actively engaging in the same exact shit your calling him on. Kind of kills the point tbh. Just don't argue with him if you don't want to, or just deal the insult and walk. Bonus: If they respond with "ad-homonim" you win! It's just a hobby forum so just roll with it and have fun! And when it isn't fun, fuck it! Do it live an all that good shit!

Media Conspiracies: It's not really a far-fetched conspiracy anymore either given the material in DNC Leaks. Even if you choose to ignore the Trump angle of the conspiracies, the Bernie Sanders end from the leaks is still pretty damning. DNC Leaks/Podesta Leak coverage was barely existent outside of Fox News and some internet sources like right-wing shit sites like Breitbart and occasional hashtags (unless NBC had decent coverage, honestly I didn't check NBC at the time and that's entirely my fault and my illness' fault) but we got to hear for a month non-stop about how Trump said he could grab a woman by the pussy because he got $$$. Which is sexual assault by the way! ...but only if he actually did it AND did not have consent...but anyway he is totally guilty of AND got away with sexual assault anyway because people on social media and John Oliver and other funny guys/gals who tell it like it totally is said so!
For real though, at least he's definitely guilty of maintaining the olden high school dickwad mentality, he failed to grow up in that sense. I mean, did you see how he bullied Jeb Bush in the primaries? He practically shoved poor Jeb into the locker then gave him a proper swirly. I bet he stole Jeb's guacabowl money too. Poor, poor Jeb. :(

What's really nuts about the media to me is there is so much dirt in Trump's past and they barely touched it, but American journos/media and "current event" comedy writers from Daily Show, Last Week Tonight, etc are all fucking lazy as hell so it's almost not surprising. I'm blown awayway anyone even remembered there was a Benghazi incident and Hillary may or may not have been related to it in some way, and that they remembered Trump had a reality show and failed businesses.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 11, 2016, 12:04:47 am
that jonathan pie video was great. put him on tv. get rid of john oliver

Sit in your little bubble ranting about mainstream media conspiracies to yourself.
wikileaks proved a lot of those mainstream media conspiracies right. the mainstream media, the ones that were all spectacularly wrong about trump's chances, collaborated with clinton's campaign. not all mainstream media of course, but several important outlets. but please keep telling people that they're living in a fucking bubble because you don't agree with them

Atleast there is still people with common sense here...

It's damn well obvious to anyone that mainstream media was so on Hilary's ass that they would be crapping her shit from their mouths. And it wasn't even just them, you even had celebrities and directors doing this bullshit too. It's fucking obvious that they was all trying to force a bubble with Hilary and force people to vote for her and her only.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was this combined with how they went above and beyond to demonize Trump that got people to vote for him simply to stick it to Hilary and her supporters AND the corrupted media all in a single go.

And like I said before and again, Trump may be a horrible choice, but so is Hilary...hell, I would say she's actually worse. And it disgusts me just as much that they dared to try and get Hilary in the office mainly because she's a woman in this tryhard SJW time rather than ANYONE ELSE(not making it any better when they simply marketed her as only that).
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 11, 2016, 12:07:54 am
It'd be real easy to laugh at everyone who's going apeshit over the outcome, but I feel sorry more than anything else. A huge litany of people (millennials they're commonly referred to as) are exposing themselves as people who can't open their minds to a viewpoint other than their own. Critical thinking skills has been replaced by attacking wrongspeak. It's just mind-blowing.
I do worry about the things JMM has been speaking about though. No one has really said anything to ease those issues. As much as I understand why he shouldn't be allowed to run after some things he said I honestly don't care about those things. But the global warming, anti LGBT laws, planned parenthood stuff are big real non boogieman issues.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 11, 2016, 12:08:21 am
EDIT: I can feel the same shit happening on my country in 2018, sadly.

Yep, we brazilians are all fucked in 2018. :(

I see news about A LOT of protests around USA, mainly Anti-Trump, and it's just in the same way that the brazillian left did in the last months, blocking streets and even burning the flag. Well, it's happend what i fear, USA is divided, the situtation started to get out of control and will get even worse.
Both Pro-Trump and Anti-Trump people getting crazy.  :mwhy:
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 12:15:11 am
I do worry about the things JMM has been speaking about though. No one has really said anything to ease those issues. As much as I understand why he shouldn't be allowed to run after some things he said I honestly don't care about those things. But the global warming, anti LGBT laws, planned parenthood stuff are big real non boogieman issues.

Those are legitimate issues, but that's more of a concern of the Republicans also winning the House and Senate. Ultimately Trump has to approve of them though and he's a bit against the grain compared to the average Republican. Unless he gives Pence the final word there which... yeah.

Also, I'm not referring to anyone here just to clarify. There's a difference between becoming passionately vocal over the internet and burning fabric while yelling on city streets.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 11, 2016, 12:16:41 am
Indeed I fear Pence more than Trump and it looks like Trump is giving Pence the ball.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 11, 2016, 12:17:07 am
The anti-lgbt guy is just a vice president tho,and while that is a pretty high up position I highly doubt he'll be able to pull any of his shit off
JMM is panicking a bit too much.USA is known for allowing lgbt marriages and similiar pro-gay stuff,and its pretty unlikely that thats gonna change any time soon tbh.
Can't really comment on the planned parenthood part.Its one of the things I am both for and against.

And yea,the "protests" went a bit out of control a few times already.From trump voters being beat up on the streets to Hillary supporters bringing out trump signs and taking a shit or urinating on them in the middle of the street
Black people that voted for trump are also being harassed on social media,like they were all supposed to be a part of a hivemind or something
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 12:17:43 am
What's really nuts about the media to me is there is so much dirt in Trump's past and they barely touched it
reminder that the biggest takeaway from john oliver's trump episode was that his ancestors were named drumpf. of all the shit you could say about the man that was the main highlight. the thing people remember the most. a name change he had absolutely zero involvement in
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 11, 2016, 12:23:22 am
It'd be real easy to laugh at everyone who's going apeshit over the outcome, but I feel sorry more than anything else. A huge litany of people (millennials they're commonly referred to as) are exposing themselves as people who can't open their minds to a viewpoint other than their own. Critical thinking skills has been replaced by attacking wrongspeak. It's just mind-blowing.
I do worry about the things JMM has been speaking about though. No one has really said anything to ease those issues. As much as I understand why he shouldn't be allowed to run after some things he said I honestly don't care about those things. But the global warming, anti LGBT laws, planned parenthood stuff are big real non boogieman issues.

Agreed. All I can really say here is that it was a trade-off and there were more important issues at play. Regarding climate change, I think people overestimate the US's ability to actually change things here. China and India need to step up and stop killing the world. The US sometimes thinks it has power it doesn't, and this seems like it might be one of those times. I also think the 'Pence is going to run everything' thing is a baseless rumor spread to turn more people against Trump, but that may be wishful thinking on my part.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 11, 2016, 12:29:27 am
But I mean, Trump is the guy who did talk about the wall thing. An absurdly massive construction project that he was apparently going force Mexico to pay for (How? Threaten to invade them?).
Mexico receives over 300 million dollars (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_foreign_aid) in economic assistance from the US each year, that money could go towards a building project that would create employment for Mexican builders.

we take 25k millions by ourselves, tho.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 11, 2016, 12:32:04 am
And yea,the "protests" went a bit out of control a few times already.From trump voters being beat up on the streets to Hillary supporters bringing out trump signs and taking a shit or urinating on them in the middle of the street
Black people that voted for trump are also being harassed on social media,like they were all supposed to be a part of a hivemind or something

I'm really worried about all that shit happend around USA as i'm worried that this probably will happend in Brazil's Elections in 2018.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on November 11, 2016, 12:33:05 am
It'd be real easy to laugh at everyone who's going apeshit over the outcome, but I feel sorry more than anything else. A huge litany of people (millennials they're commonly referred to as) are exposing themselves as people who can't open their minds to a viewpoint other than their own. Critical thinking skills has been replaced by attacking wrongspeak. It's just mind-blowing.
I do worry about the things JMM has been speaking about though. No one has really said anything to ease those issues. As much as I understand why he shouldn't be allowed to run after some things he said I honestly don't care about those things. But the global warming, anti LGBT laws, planned parenthood stuff are big real non boogieman issues.

Exactly, this is just a few reasons i put my own personal feelings aside and voted for Hillary but the damage had been done. This was a perfect example of chickens coming home to roost. Honestly i'm more worried about Pence than damn Trump.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 11, 2016, 12:35:40 am
I do worry about the things JMM has been speaking about though. No one has really said anything to ease those issues. As much as I understand why he shouldn't be allowed to run after some things he said I honestly don't care about those things. But the global warming, anti LGBT laws, planned parenthood stuff are big real non boogieman issues.

now they know how mexicans felt after trump went against the and hillary's best response was a stupid fucking circus.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 12:52:04 am
:???: i was under the impression that the millenial thing to do was to support hillary no matter what because she's a woman and it's her turn and first femail president and slay queen yasssssss
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Chronan on November 11, 2016, 12:58:04 am
Just watched the Jon Pie video. In addition to everything he said (which was all true), conservative voters, aside from being mocked openly and proudly by their liberal counter-parts, have been ignored by their own supposed Republican Party for at least over a decade. Every front-runner candidate was all about 2 primary issues and a 3rd being a staple conservative philosophy:
gay marriage (the average conservative doesn't actually care),
abortion (the average conservative can live with it),
and smaller government (something Republican elects do the opposite on).

Democrat voters should be pissed at their party too,
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What's really nuts about the media to me is there is so much dirt in Trump's past and they barely touched it
reminder that the biggest takeaway from john oliver's trump episode was that his ancestors were named drumpf. of all the shit you could say about the man that was the main highlight. the thing people remember the most. a name change he had absolutely zero involvement in
When I got my co-workers to explain that joke to me back then I got legitimately annoyed at them for regurgitating it. Not because I was pro-Trump, but because it was such a shitty joke! Aside from the entire joke being "Drumpf sounds funny in modern vernacular!" like you said, the joke wasn't even analogous to what it was trying to mock Trump for. It was so off point it had me wondering if I was told the truth by my buddies, so I watched the episode and got pretty pissed. "Drumpf" was the comedic equivalent of "poop is a funny word". It's okay to laugh at it, but if you are getting paid to write comedy you should be writing better material and know how to relate a joke back to the point, which is impossible with Drumpf.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 01:02:26 am
you're in charge of a show that influences a lot of people. your big highlight should be about something donald trump did. a shitty thing he did. that's what people should be talking about the day after your show, and all the days leading to the election

but instead

(http://i.imgur.com/JJbi7ui.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 11, 2016, 01:03:59 am
:???: i was under the impression that the millenial thing to do was to support hillary no matter what because she's a woman and it's her turn and first femail president and slay queen yasssssss

This. Honestly I don't really care for her accomplishments that she's done in spite of being a woman, I didn't vote for her or Trump simply because I knew better. Hilary has alot of skeletons in her closet and I knew damn well that she wasn't the lesser evil that some would say she is because ironically Trump is as long as while he may give Pence the ball, he still watches what he does and filter out the shit ideas for the good ones.

I completely distrust Hilary Clinton and I always

you're in charge of a show that influences a lot of people. your big highlight should be about something donald trump did. a shitty thing he did. that's what people should be talking about the day after your show, and all the days leading to the election

but instead

(http://i.imgur.com/JJbi7ui.jpg)


What's funny about this is that Jon Stewart is the one who made the Daily Show so influencing and well respected...so yeah, he's basically riding off it's coattails and making a mockery of it.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 11, 2016, 01:07:20 am
Shillary has more skeletons in her closet that the Smithsonian's Fossil Hall.
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Hillary Clinton IS a Woman. The fact that she has accomplished all that she has in both the professional & political spheres while being a woman in 20th Century America & maintaining a family are incredible feats and achievements that deserve to be recognized and appreciated with all of these extenuating circumstances in mind. Standing on lofty millenial-minded principals to judge her just as harshly as a man and to obfuscate the social class disparity and double-standard that she has had to operate under and fight against for her entire career has the same effect as those on the opposition who all along disqualified her based merely on her gender. You're not a hero to ignore the fact that she's a woman and apply the same scrutiny to her in spite of it,  you're just using a circular logic to arrive back at the same misogynistic place as those detractors who wrote her off and invalidated her from the jump. You don't get applause for NOT acknowledging differences and arriving at the same conclusion as her detractors. Differences exist in this world, obfuscating that they do and pretending that they don't is not being a good ally, its being a rather lousy one.

Oh, ok. So the prog thing to is to patronize her and any other woman. Gotcha.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 11, 2016, 01:07:39 am
you're in charge of a show that influences a lot of people. your big highlight should be about something donald trump did. a shitty thing he did. that's what people should be talking about the day after your show, and all the days leading to the election

but instead

http://i.imgur.com/JJbi7ui.jpg

Not to mention that he somehow missed out that trump is a verb in British slang meaning "fart." I mean seriously his last name is literally a waft of hot butt air, the joke is already there.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 11, 2016, 01:12:24 am
abortion (the average conservative can live with it),
the thing with abortion is that most people I know who are against it are "only" against abortion being used as some sort of "pill after" birth control method and are perfectly fine witha bortion if the life of the mother is at risk or the pregnancy was caused by rape or the fetus is not gonna develop into a proper baby (I mgith be forgetting a situation) but the left intolerance and lack of dialogue forces them to take a black or white aproach instead, so if they are antiabortion, they are anti all abortions now and that will cost you palnned parenthood defunding, thanks.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 11, 2016, 01:15:19 am
Shillary has more skeletons in her closet that the Smithsonian's Fossil Hall.
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Hillary Clinton IS a Woman. The fact that she has accomplished all that she has in both the professional & political spheres while being a woman in 20th Century America & maintaining a family are incredible feats and achievements that deserve to be recognized and appreciated with all of these extenuating circumstances in mind. Standing on lofty millenial-minded principals to judge her just as harshly as a man and to obfuscate the social class disparity and double-standard that she has had to operate under and fight against for her entire career has the same effect as those on the opposition who all along disqualified her based merely on her gender. You're not a hero to ignore the fact that she's a woman and apply the same scrutiny to her in spite of it,  you're just using a circular logic to arrive back at the same misogynistic place as those detractors who wrote her off and invalidated her from the jump. You don't get applause for NOT acknowledging differences and arriving at the same conclusion as her detractors. Differences exist in this world, obfuscating that they do and pretending that they don't is not being a good ally, its being a rather lousy one.

Oh, ok. So the prog thing to is to patronize her and any other woman. Gotcha.
Reminder that the media invented the word "E-MailGate" and said that Hillarys only crime is "Talking while being a woman" and that focusing on her e-mails is completely sexist because we totally wouldnt also do that if a man did it
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 01:15:56 am
(http://i.imgur.com/QLYnYAh.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 11, 2016, 01:18:52 am
Hillary Clinton IS a Woman. The fact that she has accomplished all that she has in both the professional & political spheres while being a woman in 20th Century America & maintaining a family are incredible feats and achievements that deserve to be recognized and appreciated with all of these extenuating circumstances in mind. Standing on lofty millenial-minded principals to judge her just as harshly as a man and to obfuscate the social class disparity and double-standard that she has had to operate under and fight against for her entire career has the same effect as those on the opposition who all along disqualified her based merely on her gender. You're not a hero to ignore the fact that she's a woman and apply the same scrutiny to her in spite of it,  you're just using a circular logic to arrive back at the same misogynistic place as those detractors who wrote her off and invalidated her from the jump. You don't get applause for NOT acknowledging differences and arriving at the same conclusion as her detractors. Differences exist in this world, obfuscating that they do and pretending that they don't is not being a good ally, its being a rather lousy one. 

What the fuck dude, this is actually sexism. You're a bigot. This is bigotry. Stop.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 01:20:00 am

I actually thought about this a few days before the election, and my mind was made up for the most part, but I wanted to examine what we could be sacrificing in rejecting the opportunity of the first female president. But even after it all, there was just too much I didn't agree with that I couldn't overlook. I guess personally, it wasn't time yet. I'd rather it be done "right" for lack of a better word.

...

Oh and yeah, both parties suck. All about globalization (free trade and the likes) and doing whatever it takes to stay in power, Democrats and Republicans.

Also stop being gullible brothas and sistas, Dems don't care about you. Crime Bill 1994.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 11, 2016, 01:21:22 am
If you think it's important to elect someone because of their vagina, you are the sexist one. It's important to ensure that people have a fair chance regardless of their genitals, and then treat them equally from that point out.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 11, 2016, 01:26:58 am
I don't see a problem with the entire "We didnt get a female president boohoo" thing
Like,The spot is still there
It's not going anywhere
And hopefully it will be taken by someone who is much more capable than Hillary
Or at least someone with a clearer criminal record :^)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 11, 2016, 01:32:28 am
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The Millenial thing to do was to plant your feet and hold out for a PERFECT UNBLEMISHED CANDIDATE & sacrifice the important milestone that electing a woman to the highest office in the land could have established across the world and what that could have done as a symbolic victory for all people around the world regardless of gender.

So the millenial thing to do was not be sexist, and judge people by their actions and the content of their character?

Good job, millenials. You did a good.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 11, 2016, 01:35:25 am
How do we know everyone protesting didn't vote?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 01:35:58 am
I don't see a problem with the entire "We didnt get a female president boohoo" thing
Like,The spot is still there
It's not going anywhere
And hopefully it will be taken by someone who is much more capable than Hillary
Or at least someone with a clearer criminal record :^)

This pretty much.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dcat on November 11, 2016, 01:38:39 am
How do we know everyone protesting didn't vote?

President Trump mostly.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 11, 2016, 01:42:15 am
59.8 million ppl voted for Clinton. Are more than that protesting?!!! o_O
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on November 11, 2016, 01:42:57 am
How do we know everyone protesting didn't vote?

President Trump mostly.
Lol, come on man. Don't blame it all on the young kids. Hell depending on who you ask half of us could be Millennials.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 11, 2016, 01:44:20 am
There's only a 2 million voter difference between this and the 2008 election, which currently had the highest number of voters (if you're talking about percentage of elligible voters, the top is back in the late 1800s, before it was legal for either women or minorities to vote).
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 11, 2016, 01:49:41 am
They need a way ppl can vote from home. That'd really change things
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 11, 2016, 01:55:43 am
And here I thought victim blaming wasn't a prog thing to do.

You are blaming millennials and anybody else who didn't kneel before the Lizard Queen for holding the Democratic party to any standard of integrity. You're blaming disenfranchised voters who had every fucking right to be pissed off at the democratic establishment and not put up with its bullshit. You're blaming people for not being able to vote in good faith for a crook whose selling points were "she isn't Trump" and "she'll be the first token female president".

Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 02:03:31 am
President Trump mostly.
the amount of people that have the energy to go out and protest, but didn't have the energy to go out and vote, is negligible
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 11, 2016, 02:11:16 am
They need a way ppl can vote from home. That'd really change things

Can't you vote by mail? I feel like every podcast I listen to they voted early through the mail. I mean, internet voting is the ideal but I don't think we're anywhere near the infrastructure necessary to regulate that.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 02:18:54 am
They need a way ppl can vote from home. That'd really change things

RT for Yeezy 2020!
He'll make America the greatest of all time!
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 02:32:14 am
(http://i.imgur.com/rLBLelY.jpg)
Huh how did democrats lose the election with this kind of material
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 11, 2016, 02:51:21 am
Yeah it's better to compare them to the original Planet of the Apes movies.

Bill Clinton's presidency was good but tarnished in the end by scandal.
George Dubya's presidency was a horrible embarassment that ruined the everything.
Obama's presidency was entirely forgettable due to outside meddling.

Unfortunately if this trend continues, this means that Trump's term will be a blood bath resulting in violent revolution :'(
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TempesT on November 11, 2016, 02:54:22 am
At least a few of my friends from the US have asked to live with me.

No. Get away from me.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 11, 2016, 02:56:05 am
Wake me up when we get to the Tim Burton reboot of the American presidency
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 02:56:29 am
trump's presidency will have TERRIBLE effects on chile please make some space for me
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 11, 2016, 03:00:09 am
At least a few of my friends from the US have asked to live with me.

No. Get away from me.
Fine be that way. See if I let you borrow the Double Hydra again! >:(

Wake me up when we get to the Tim Burton reboot of the American presidency
By that point it will literally be a chimpanzee dressed up like Abraham Lincoln.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 11, 2016, 03:02:42 am
By that point it will literally be a chimpanzee dressed up like Abraham Lincoln.

Chimp Lincoln? I love that guy! He's solid on the issues!
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 11, 2016, 03:06:46 am
No, it's Ape-raham Lincoln, get it right or you'll get taken away by the gorilla cops!
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 03:34:33 am
Why would anyone wanna leave the land of the God Emperor anyway, he's gonna breed a new generation of greatness. And memes.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 11, 2016, 03:38:42 am
The memes were so good, guys. So good.

This election was basically 4chan vs the political establishment/the mainstream media, and 4chan won.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: -Whiplash- on November 11, 2016, 03:51:53 am
ALL HAIL GOD EMPEROR TRUMP

PRESIDENT OF THE UNIVERSE
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 03:54:27 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwxnMEKVIAA1t3y.jpg:large)



Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 11, 2016, 04:08:23 am


:)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 04:12:54 am
the crow has been put on the endangered species list
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Xhominid on November 11, 2016, 04:20:03 am
EDIT: Got your message wrong whoops.

EDIT 2: Or maybe I didn't. What the hell DCat? You seriously believe that Hilary Clinton being president would somehow be revolutionary? Newsflash there has and will be PLENTY of powerful females in the highest seats in 1st world countries.

Maybe we should judge people outside of shit like color and gender(because after the first week, you won't give a shit, trust me, I voted Obama in 2008 for that reason mainly due to being younger and a moron before his re-election where I grew a brain) and actually see if they have the skill to BE President.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 01:39:04 pm
We already on the road to greatness!
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/796790790169260032

Fuck the TPP.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 11, 2016, 01:45:35 pm
Good news
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 02:14:52 pm
The reason these kind of trade deals even exist is to make manufacturing as cheap as possible (read: outsourcing to 3rd world countries with horrific working conditions) while giving big corporations the power to fuck commoners in the ass. And internet regulations in this particular case. Corporate imperialism if you will, Walmart (which Hillary has ties to btw) didn't become so big purely out of genius entrepreneurship. They also erode jobs for everyone involved. But here's a picture, in case explaining it all isn't enough. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw8YErCUAAAqCia.jpg)

Next up is killing off that garbage NAFTA, major catalyst as to why Mexican migration to the US spiked due to their farming jobs becoming unsustainable, among other things. Stuff like that's only half the battle, the real challenge will be making deals that are more pro-working class.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 11, 2016, 02:54:20 pm
you're in charge of a show that influences a lot of people. your big highlight should be about something donald trump did. a shitty thing he did. that's what people should be talking about the day after your show, and all the days leading to the election

but instead

(http://i.imgur.com/JJbi7ui.jpg)
I have no doubt the constant mocking and treating it as a joke, the "SLAAAY queen yassss" , SHE A BAD BITCH, "its her turn" and other shit alienated everyone and pushed her to further lose this.

Obama knew how to send the message they were all in this together. But the thing that really marked this was her always hiring everyone fired for helping her, instead of denouncing them.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TTTTTsd on November 11, 2016, 07:54:10 pm
The reason these kind of trade deals even exist is to make manufacturing as cheap as possible (read: outsourcing to 3rd world countries with horrific working conditions) while giving big corporations the power to fuck commoners in the ass. And internet regulations in this particular case. Corporate imperialism if you will, Walmart (which Hillary has ties to btw) didn't become so big purely out of genius entrepreneurship. They also erode jobs for everyone involved. But here's a picture, in case explaining it all isn't enough. (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw8YErCUAAAqCia.jpg)

Next up is killing off that garbage NAFTA, major catalyst as to why Mexican migration to the US spiked due to their farming jobs becoming unsustainable, among other things. Stuff like that's only half the battle, the real challenge will be making deals that are more pro-working class.
I want you to know that killing off NAFTA outright rather than renegotiating it would have serious negative effects on your neighbours directly above, you know, the Canadians i.e ME. As NAFTA is one of many free trade laws involving Canada and the US, who am I to say that's where it will stop? Lord knows. While there's a part of me thinking "Maybe they'll revive the old US to Canada Free Trade Act" I have my doubts on that too. We'll have to see but I am not confident.

Our dollar already hit an all time low earlier this year because we spent the last solid amount of time prior to 2015 being run by Harper who completely totaled our GDP and messed with our budget (alongside an avalanche of other stuff).

This kind of stuff is what astounds me. Axing trade deals that have been entrenched for a long time in the interest of one's own state but neglecting its effect on its largest trade partner BY FAR has happened a considerable amount of times during and after this election which is largely disappointing. If the CAD and our GDP as a result of this presidency end up plunging I'll attribute it to lack of forethought like this unabashedly and without bias because it will be no happy accident. Frankly I have not a damn reason not to anymore.

The axing of the TPP I however do approve of. It's why I voted NDP in our country even though they didn't win.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 07:56:18 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw11B-XXAAIBnB0.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw11B-WXAAEg3NY.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/9eSYhmW.png)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 11, 2016, 08:14:00 pm
Paris Hilton was his only hope. It's our fault for not all voting her in!
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 08:28:52 pm
that's a florida ballot by the way
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: -Ash- on November 11, 2016, 08:36:21 pm
The memes were so good, guys. So good.

This election was basically 4chan vs the political establishment/the mainstream media, and 4chan won.

I swear, never actually believed in meme magic, but now... wew, PRAISE KEK.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 08:38:55 pm
I want you to know that killing off NAFTA outright rather than renegotiating it would have serious negative effects on your neighbours directly above, you know, the Canadians i.e ME. As NAFTA is one of many free trade laws involving Canada and the US, who am I to say that's where it will stop? Lord knows. While there's a part of me thinking "Maybe they'll revive the old US to Canada Free Trade Act" I have my doubts on that too. We'll have to see but I am not confident.

Our dollar already hit an all time low earlier this year because we spent the last solid amount of time prior to 2015 being run by Harper who completely totaled our GDP and messed with our budget (alongside an avalanche of other stuff).

This kind of stuff is what astounds me. Axing trade deals that have been entrenched for a long time in the interest of one's own state but neglecting its effect on its largest trade partner BY FAR has happened a considerable amount of times during and after this election which is largely disappointing. If the CAD and our GDP as a result of this presidency end up plunging I'll attribute it to lack of forethought like this unabashedly and without bias because it will be no happy accident. Frankly I have not a damn reason not to anymore.

The axing of the TPP I however do approve of. It's why I voted NDP in our country even though they didn't win.

Yeah I got a bit excited there, but it most certainly shouldn't be allowed to stay as is.

NAFTA has really fucked over the Midwest and their industrial jobs more than anywhere in the US, explains why these states were the difference in the election. The Midwest and even Pennsylvania (despite Philly) was mostly pro-Trump outside of Illinois (because of Chicago). I mean, realistically we're never getting a lot of those jobs back when companies can just outsource on the cheap, but it's still a necessary problem to point out.

Yeah, I expect some kind of disaster to happen with the economy but if that means slowing down globalism and eventually lite-communism, so be it. All that cycle will do is erode the standard of living for the average person to the point where a great majority of the population will need government assistance.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: -Whiplash- on November 11, 2016, 08:50:22 pm
so I was scrolling through face book and I got these by two different friends:

(http://i.imgur.com/5EJ0vet.png)

I think it's interesting that both articles are based around the same quote.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: VinnyJ on November 11, 2016, 08:50:51 pm
This sort of lines up with my reaction:
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 11, 2016, 08:53:40 pm
The Timeline Vincer
I think I'm gonna drop this and leave the thread.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLG9g7BcjKs[/youtube]

it was around 30k views when i first saw it and i'm glad it's somewhere around 300k now
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 11, 2016, 09:18:11 pm
Guess what's back on Trump's site
the "we need to stop all Muslim immigration until we've figured out crusades and what religious hate is all about because half of the Muslims even here want to kill us" speech from last December
they said it was taken off because of "technical difficulties".
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dumanios on November 11, 2016, 09:18:45 pm
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/96dcc9660cbcb2eb34c6940eed3b2705/tumblr_oghnleGek31vkzp5ao1_1280.jpg)

Source. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-said-clinton-was-in-trouble-with-the-voters-i-represent-democrats-didnt-listen/2016/11/10/0e9521a6-a796-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html)

(http://68.media.tumblr.com/42dd74121542adb0468997436ef433e5/tumblr_oghnleGek31vkzp5ao2_500.png)

Source. (http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-aides-loss-blame-231215)


TLDR Hillary basically expected to waltz into the White House. Good job DNC.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 11, 2016, 09:46:25 pm
Removed a post of just some bikini clad anime girls dressed in America fuck yeah wear. This is a discussion thread, not random topic. There was no context and only pictures. Don't do that please.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Erroratu on November 11, 2016, 10:23:33 pm
>He deleted Iowa lewds
Oh what the fuck,please de-mod JNP ,this is tyranny :^(

Also,some of those "trumpists attacked me" tales are being proven false so far
So far I only know of 2 however,the "They pulled a knife on me in the bus cause I'm muslim" one
And the one with that Chris Ball guy in which he lied his head was busted open by Trump supporters cause he's gay,and that he needed stitches.Santa Monica police have found no evidence that the man was taken to a hospital recently(As there are no records of him being there and getting stitches,which are,from what I know,necessarry),nor was any of this reported to the cops.
Of course the media that covered Chris Balls attack did not mention that the credibility of it fell right into the water the very next day

Fox news also interviewed the anti-trump protesters (Seemingly not the bunch that took a shit on on the streets) and they seem to have no clue as to what makes Trump sexist or racist (https://www.facebook.com/foxandfriends/videos/1045728428848086/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED )
Of course this could be just them doing damage control after the man they spent villainizing and making fun of became the president.
If not,then this is pretty much nuts.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 11, 2016, 11:11:03 pm
I blame modern schooling. They're liberal brainwashing camps designed to zap you of independent thought, elementary, university, and all in between.

http://nypost.com/2016/11/11/trump-protester-arrested-after-tussle-with-elderly-man/
And yes, the upheaval is disproportionately from the left. The same left that assaulted a homeless woman simply for having a different opinion. That was before the election mind you, you can't possibly convince me that the right is causing most of the chaos.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 11, 2016, 11:22:21 pm
I blame modern schooling. They're liberal brainwashing camps designed to zap you of independent thought, elementary, university, and all in between.

And i thought that Brazil was one of the few countries doing that.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Chronan on November 11, 2016, 11:34:24 pm
Some of the anti-trump protests/riots are pretty funny due to the irony and adult-children crying and tantruming from being overly emotionally invested in the presidential election, but it's also really embarrassing and sad.

In Portland yesterday: A bunch of near worthless millennial young adults ran around Portland angrily screaming "PEACEFUL PROTEST! PEACEFUL PROTEST!" while attacking people in their cars, throwing bricks through the windows of their local businesses, and threatening/attacking anyone who might be pro-Trump. The shit is golden, but also depressing how stupid and backwards these supposedly progressive tards are.
More evidence that the hyper-progessive/PC crowd/"regressive left"/SJW or whatever they are called anymore are everything people have been calling them on for years. Ironically, these are some the same people claiming Trump supporters create violence, and were shitting on Trump/supporters for saying he may not accept the outcome if Hillary wins.

I suppose I'd expect as much from Portland these days though.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Negi Springfield on November 11, 2016, 11:44:53 pm
I've been mostly avoiding posting in this thread due to a multitude of reasons but I'll just say a few things and get them off my chest.

I'm not really glad Trump won but i'm glad Hillary didn't win if that makes sense to you guys. (I wanted Bernie to get the nomination but we all know how that went)


Secondly, the honest reason Trump won is not because racism is alive and well in the country, that's the "easy" answer for lazy people. No, Trump won because of ultra PC culture ramming itself down the country's collective throat. You can only shame people for disagreeing with you so much before it doesn't work anymore. That's why Trump won.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: PineappleProducer on November 11, 2016, 11:57:34 pm
so I was scrolling through face book and I got these by two different friends:

http://i.imgur.com/5EJ0vet.png

I think it's interesting that both articles are based around the same quote.

Well, that explains that. I was thinking he was just being incredibly hypocritical.  :P
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 12, 2016, 12:03:20 am
I like that one
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/9061c8/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-how-donald-trump-tapped-into-middle-america
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 12, 2016, 01:48:28 am
>He deleted Iowa lewds
Oh what the fuck,please de-mod JNP ,this is tyranny :^(

Also,some of those "trumpists attacked me" tales are being proven false so far
So far I only know of 2 however,the "They pulled a knife on me in the bus cause I'm muslim" one
And the one with that Chris Ball guy in which he lied his head was busted open by Trump supporters cause he's gay,and that he needed stitches.Santa Monica police have found no evidence that the man was taken to a hospital recently(As there are no records of him being there and getting stitches,which are,from what I know,necessarry),nor was any of this reported to the cops.
Of course the media that covered Chris Balls attack did not mention that the credibility of it fell right into the water the very next day

Fox news also interviewed the anti-trump protesters (Seemingly not the bunch that took a shit on on the streets) and they seem to have no clue as to what makes Trump sexist or racist (https://www.facebook.com/foxandfriends/videos/1045728428848086/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED )
Of course this could be just them doing damage control after the man they spent villainizing and making fun of became the president.
If not,then this is pretty much nuts.

Can you source this Chris Ball thing please?

I actually know a Chris Ball and if this is the same guy I'm going to fuckign die

edit: Dammit, nope, my Chris Ball was black.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 12, 2016, 01:52:44 am
sorry you got blackballed
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 12, 2016, 01:58:31 am
i'm still dying that pun was excellent
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 12, 2016, 09:28:01 am
I start to wonder if Trump is just a puppet for someone after all and changes at least the half of his radical positions before the election.

Have a feeling a lot of his voters start to dislike him already for not scraping Obamacare completely as he said before he became the president.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Nakiri on November 12, 2016, 11:20:46 am
Nov 9 have alot of bad thing happen
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 12, 2016, 02:01:15 pm
Have a feeling a lot of his voters start to dislike him already for not scraping Obamacare completely as he said before he became the president.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

lol flip-flopping, expect to hear a lot of it. But seriously, the parts of Obamacare he's referring to are fine. Denying care for pre-existing conditions is just dumb, and keeping young adults on these plans is fine, though I think the max age should be lower.

It's the absolute boot-to-throat penalties that are the problem. Working class makes too much money for assistance, make too little to pay for either the skyrocketing premiums or penalties for not participating. Results in lower amounts of middle-class people. You can see where this would go without intervention.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 12, 2016, 06:45:41 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/cWse8qA.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TTTTTsd on November 12, 2016, 06:50:15 pm
Have a feeling a lot of his voters start to dislike him already for not scraping Obamacare completely as he said before he became the president.
http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37953528

lol flip-flopping, expect to hear a lot of it. But seriously, the parts of Obamacare he's referring to are fine. Denying care for pre-existing conditions is just dumb, and keeping young adults on these plans is fine, though I think the max age should be lower.

It's the absolute boot-to-throat penalties that are the problem. Working class makes too much money for assistance, make too little to pay for either the skyrocketing premiums or penalties for not participating. Results in lower amounts of middle-class people. You can see where this would go without intervention.
Don't worry his voters won't care about that Obamacare thing as much as they would this: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-transition-gop-insiders-lobbyists-231224 If this is what draining the swamp is, he neglected to mention he's filling it back up : /.

I'm not shocked that this is happening, welcome to the unfortunate reality that is 2016. Climate is going to be fun too with that whole "we're going to build Keystone and end the war on coal" (no I didn't make that up).
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 12, 2016, 07:52:35 pm
It was a vague boast, he wasn't gonna just kick everyone out and obtain know-nothings like himself.

The main theme behind DrainingTheSwamp meant installing the term limits that stop career congressmen and corporations from doing whatever they damn please. Of course way easier said than done, since that'd involve changes to the Constitution which doesn't have a very high success rate. Best case scenario: if Trump is persistent about these limits and Congress fights against them, it'd pretty much expose that all these lobbyists are indeed working against the people's interests in favor of their own.

These were the possible effects of having an outsider as President that the media was trying to distract everyone from.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 12, 2016, 08:38:54 pm
Additionally, transition teams aren't anything important.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 12, 2016, 09:00:16 pm
daamn.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw_cQ05WIAIess3.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 12, 2016, 09:12:23 pm
Democrates acting like comunists, or are they really comunists? Idk much about the US political system. :P

And these protests pissed me off. >:(
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TTTTTsd on November 12, 2016, 09:22:25 pm
Transition teams don't usually make up ALL of the administration but there's usually some carryover. Worth being concerned about. I mean I guess I could post the wall of shitty things about Climate too, there's plenty on that! Like even ignoring the social implications of all of this if you want to talk policy we should be talking Climate considering Florida was already going to be decently underwater by 2100 via projections in 2015 before the Republicans won the entire White House. Maybe in my lifetime I'll get to see what SMB3 World 3 looks like on a real world map (source for Florida projection is http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2015/02/climate-change-economics/florida-coast-map as a direct result of global warming and climate). I'm just saying what it looks like y'all are about to get is a standard Republican presidency with maybe 1 or 2 laws passed that are Trump platform exclusive because pretty much every Republican hates him and they're sitting in majority everything. I also don't genuinely believe he's anti-establishment at all considering his team, I remain skeptical going into the administration. It's just this realization that politics are still politics, to attempt to isolate them from corruption is one of those impossible promises.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/mitch-mcconnell-trump-fossil-fuels-231252

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/keystone-pipeline-work-with-trump-231135 Here's the TransCanada guys being on board

http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article113765158.html#storylink=cpy and for fun here's Kris Kobach thinking the wall will actually happen and get through Congress (we all know it won't.) Kobach's kind of a slimebag (look up Arizona SB 1070, pretty eugh) so I hope he doesn't stick around.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 12, 2016, 10:18:45 pm
Democrates acting like comunists, or are they really comunists?

Their ideals align closer to it.

Democrat ideology is basically Peter Pan: take from the rich, give to the poor. Naturally this would make them look like good guys, champions of the oppressed and less fortunate, and they'll do the things to maintain this image. Protecting you, the single parent in poverty, the college student, or the racially oppressed minority, from the evil Republicans. But Democrats are also smart and calculated, they know that most of these people will never get to the middle-class for varying reasons. Speaking pessimistically, but the more people that move to the middle-class, the less of a base Democrats will have to project their message. And so they need people to stay poor. There are two ways to do this:

- Cripple the middle class, thus making it harder to stay there (and for young adults to get there).
- Open your borders to immigrants who have no realistic shot of moving up in society.

Liberal government can work when it doesn't go too far towards the above. But it's seen as less "American" compared to it's conservative counterpart which more favors capitalism, nationalism, and promotes the working class.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 12, 2016, 10:25:52 pm
Quote
Democrat ideology is basically Peter Pan: take from the rich, give to the poor
you have no idea what you are talking about mate.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 12, 2016, 10:38:49 pm
Peter Pan?  That's Robin Hood bruh
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 12, 2016, 10:41:05 pm
It's also a good thing.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 12, 2016, 10:41:49 pm
i was so confused by the democrat ideology part that i missed the peter pan mistake
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 12, 2016, 10:46:14 pm
Even the school posts a few pages back are kinda weird.

School pushing liberal agenda worldviews on little children? Like what? Sharing your milk and not calling names ot those different from us? Not hating others?
What are republican agenda worldviews if thats whats liberal agenda worldviews?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TTTTTsd on November 12, 2016, 10:49:26 pm
i was so confused by the democrat ideology part that i missed the peter pan mistake
Yeah I had a similar issue except I got stuck on "immigrants basically have no realistic chance of success" and was just in shock at how self-prophetic that statement was.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 12, 2016, 10:54:34 pm
Yeah Robin Hood, still get those two mixed up. :(
I didn't say it was bad it's just a different approach to keeping the population financially balanced, which works when done correctly. And can be criticized as communist practices.

Conservative "agendas" (or ways to get people to adopt the lifestyle for better wording) tend to be more religion based. Not as popular since church is optional and it's easier to reject a sacred lifestyle, at least in the west anyway.

Yeah I had a similar issue except I got stuck on "immigrants basically have no realistic chance of success" and was just in shock at how self-prophetic that statement was.

By success I meant moving into a situation where they're not being taxed by the government. In the broader sense success is relative, merely moving out of whatever country they're coming from could count as that.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 12, 2016, 11:03:24 pm
That's a funny Freudian slip.
(http://i.imgur.com/44hTKzH.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/YNEdCmm.jpg)

The only agenda liberals promote in schools is gender special snowflakery and bathroom bills.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: TTTTTsd on November 12, 2016, 11:07:39 pm
I genuinely hope you meant to say "socialism" and not "communism". Like, this is a genuine hope.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 12, 2016, 11:08:39 pm
Quote
Conservative "agendas" (or ways to get people to adopt the lifestyle for better wording) tend to be more religion based. Not as popular since church is optional and it's easier to reject a sacred lifestyle, at least in the west anyway.
this is like a landmine of ideas.

Religion based as in hate the gays? Considering this was from a post that claimed the schools were forcing liberal agenda on little children it sounds like you are complaining about that? What other religion based things could it be that are not being taught to little children? Lying is bad, stealing is bad etc are all common thigns to teach them and based on religion but you complained that liberal agenda is being pushed into them negatively so you are not tlaking about that.

What is a sacred lifestyle?

Being easy to reject it in the west, does it mean that in  comparison to russia and countries like Iran where the church and state force the population to follow one religion is that the sacred lifestyle?

Why are those things good to teach to kids? You complained of the liberal agenda and have no characterized it as being the one that is not the religious point of view of the world, so the religious one is the one that you class as good. Why?


If you are only mad about having specific bathrooms for trangenders then this seems like a weird thing to rant about, since from there to "agendas" that need to be crossed it seems like a useless ammount of energy into it.

The repeated digs as comunism as if its something to be scared of kinda show you dont know what you are talking about as well.
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Post by: Jango on November 12, 2016, 11:18:15 pm
Since we're on the whole Peter Pan thing, in the Disney movie, he was illegally smuggling children into Neverland using illegal substances to "make them fly," and that even though he claims to be in good relations with minorities (read: Native Americans, Mermaids, and Pixies), two such minorities are kidnapped on his watch because he's too busy cavorting with a girl (Wendy the first time, Tiger Lilly the second time).

So yeah he's a perfect liberal.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 12, 2016, 11:20:36 pm
Since we're on the whole Peter Pan thing, in the Disney movie, he was illegally smuggling children into Neverland using illegal substances to "make them fly," and that even though he claims to be in good relations with minorities (read: Native Americans, Mermaids, and Pixies), two such minorities are kidnapped on his watch because he's too busy cavorting with a girl (Wendy the first time, Tiger Lilly the second time).

So yeah he's a perfect liberal.
Well if yuu wan to go that way he was fighting a blowhard rich pirate with a wig
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Post by: Niitris on November 12, 2016, 11:36:44 pm
Socialist would be more accurate, it's more a dig at the idea of people losing it at the idea of their income being taxed.

Why are those things good to teach to kids? You complained of the liberal agenda and have no characterized it as being the one that is not the religious point of view of the world, so the religious one is the one that you class as good. Why?

I can concede to my comment being hyperbolic, taking values from either/or is fine when it's not being taken to the extreme.
And yeah religion being mandatory in some places, yuck.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 12, 2016, 11:58:34 pm
Since we're on the whole Peter Pan thing, in the Disney movie, he was illegally smuggling children into Neverland using illegal substances to "make them fly," and that even though he claims to be in good relations with minorities (read: Native Americans, Mermaids, and Pixies), two such minorities are kidnapped on his watch because he's too busy cavorting with a girl (Wendy the first time, Tiger Lilly the second time).

So yeah he's a perfect liberal.
Well if yuu wan to go that way he was fighting a blowhard rich pirate with a wig
The pirates under his command were going to attempt to mutiny at the start of the movie because they were running low on resources/wealth as Captain Hook was ignoring that problem to fight Peter Pan. So yeah, I guess he makes a good republican. Or at least a good George Dubya.

Yes I've watched Peter Pan QUITE A FEW TIMES.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 13, 2016, 12:13:06 am
Socialist would be more accurate, it's more a dig at the idea of people losing it at the idea of their income being taxed.

Why are those things good to teach to kids? You complained of the liberal agenda and have no characterized it as being the one that is not the religious point of view of the world, so the religious one is the one that you class as good. Why?

I can concede to my comment being hyperbolic, taking values from either/or is fine when it's not being taken to the extreme.
And yeah religion being mandatory in some places, yuck.

Ohh? What parts of the liberal agenda are being taught to little kids that are extreme?  Which parts of the religion one are the extreme in that scenario?
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Post by: Niitris on November 13, 2016, 12:46:17 am
I've already clarified warping kids being a clumsy exaggeration.

Conservative and/or religious extremism would be passing laws that discriminate against gay people, which may or may not happen given the circumstances. Liberal extremism would be anything that strictly punishes micro-aggressive speech. Back to education, it wouldn't be unfair to say that college campuses have had issues with liberal culture as of late.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 13, 2016, 12:56:11 am
So most of your issues with school programming little children with the evil liberal agenda are actually massive over generatlizatoins and you dont actually feel the need for conservative agendas? or do you feel the need for a conservative agenda but only in a college campus scenario? In that case what parts of conservative agendas?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 13, 2016, 01:41:20 am
What kind of questions are those, of course nobody actively wants that.

Do you feel college culture is fine the way it is?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 13, 2016, 02:11:08 am
Im trying to understand what is this agenda you want replaced, you keep using blanket terms and never really explaining whats bothering you or whats the issues.
If theres an agenda that needs to be replaced with another, what is it, what parts are the replacement, what parts are good or could be better.
You cant just blanket term whole opinions away.

sentences like this:
"Liberal government can work when it doesn't go too far towards the above. But it's seen as less "American" compared to it's conservative counterpart which more favors capitalism, nationalism, and promotes the working class."
Are nonsensical unles syour notions of nationalism and capitalism are way off the mark , so instead of assuming the worse Im asking you what you mean. The same way that people were asking what you think communism is in the context of your over generalizations.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 13, 2016, 02:40:04 am
There shouldn't be agendas period, simple as that. It's fine to discuss the values of both the left and right, the difference isn't that huge. Both promote being respectful to others and being tolerant of differences.

And I don't like how I worded that either. Basically the Democrats are about helping the lower-class, Republicans are about rewarding the working-class. Both can work in a capitalist system.

Neither one is communist, but it's a false criticism that tends to get thrown at Democrat policies.
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Post by: Byakko on November 13, 2016, 02:45:51 am
There shouldn't be agendas period, simple as that.
You're saying this as if there actually is an agenda. Iced has asked you repeatedly what is this agenda you think exists.
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Post by: Niitris on November 13, 2016, 02:49:51 am
My bad. Stuff like this.
http://freebeacon.com/culture/obama-slams-liberal-pc-culture-on-college-campuses-students-shouldnt-be-coddled/

Saying that it went as far as grade school was silly, but yeah.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 13, 2016, 02:52:01 am
That's not an agenda. It's a fad of the time. And it certainly isn't anyone's agenda.
An agenda would be trying to push creationism in schools.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 13, 2016, 03:09:17 am
I get it, but it's not helped in the fact where some universities will go out and repress right-winged viewpoints. Definitely a bias that can be detrimental.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on November 13, 2016, 04:23:27 am
It's also a good thing.
tell that to venezuela.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 13, 2016, 06:35:19 am
I get it, but it's not helped in the fact where some universities will go out and repress right-winged viewpoints. Definitely a bias that can be detrimental.

What specific viewpoints are being supressed by universities detrimentaly?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 地獄の花 on November 13, 2016, 08:03:58 am
lol this is the secret why he won, he got the best coach on his corner
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-MjKCUXJMrx8/VsYDvdGxUEI/AAAAAAAAADE/1amfRIfn-qw/s1600/coach_anzai_real-life.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 13, 2016, 03:38:07 pm
It took a few days, but it seems people are finally coming to their sen-

(http://i.imgur.com/PRR2G6m.jpg)

Uh? Calexit? Is that a new overpriced hipster salad? (http://www.yescalifornia.org/)

(http://i.imgur.com/8HhvK96.jpg)

:rofl:

FUCKING SAFETY PINS.

Even Huffpo is calling this shit ridiculous (http://archive.is/B6Yh5).
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 13, 2016, 04:08:55 pm
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We elected a racist demagogue who has promised to do serious harm to almost every person who isn’t a straight white male
did trump say anything against women during his campaign
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 13, 2016, 04:20:48 pm
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We elected a racist demagogue who has promised to do serious harm to almost every person who isn’t a straight white male
did trump say anything against women during his campaign

Off the top of my head he wanted to get women that get abortions arrested and said that sexual harassment iwould never get his daughter to quit a job.
He was talking about women non stop tho and how they are nasty going to bathrooms and having blood coming out of their wherevers. and grading them on a ten scale . Im sure you can find some kind of article compilating all the things he said about women.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 13, 2016, 04:22:35 pm
oh yeah the abortion stuff is really bad

the women grading was about a supermodel and was said in 2015, the pussy grabbing is definitely old, if the menstruation quote is about megyn kelly then it's debatable he meant menstruation. i don't know why anyone would give a shit about those quotes when what he has said about abortion is something that will definitely have a direct impact on women. the other quotes are irrelevant in comparison
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Dumanios on November 14, 2016, 02:31:52 am
It took a few days, but it seems people are finally coming to their sen-

(http://i.imgur.com/PRR2G6m.jpg)

Uh? Calexit? Is that a new overpriced hipster salad? (http://www.yescalifornia.org/)


Whoever came up with the word CALEXIT ought to be shot for crimes against the English language.

Also, it's going to die like Texit did.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 14, 2016, 04:50:21 am
something something lex luthor
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Post by: Niitris on November 14, 2016, 02:30:07 pm
What specific viewpoints are being supressed by universities detrimentaly?

Nothing specific, but some colleges (students or staff) do go out their way to prevent conservative speakers from attending. Milo, Ben Shapiro, Condoleezza Rice are from the top of my head. Making it harder for the other side to express their ideas doesn't benefit anyone, these aren't people who eat babies.

To get back on topic with it all, Trump wasn't a normal candidate, and I'm aware that a lot of the dumb shit he's said is a major variable in everyone's response to him winning.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 14, 2016, 02:38:02 pm
You need to work out on how you express ideas, conservative viewpoints being supressed means specific ones are being supressed, not "person x is a conservative and was protested by a bunch of shouty assholes while giving a speech at a university".

Universities have the right to invite whoever they want, they are not soapboxes for public use, so I dont see how you think that they can supress conservative speakers when your own examples are of conservative speakers being invited to speak.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Snakebyte on November 14, 2016, 03:01:19 pm
Iced, you don't know what you're talking about on this issue. Student groups, not universities, invite speakers. Many universities have suppressed those they don't like, raising bullshit fees at the last minute or suspending clubs for inviting people they don't like.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 14, 2016, 03:39:03 pm
Cool he can bring up examples then. That will make more sense as a point than just saying that Conservative viewpoints are being supressed but then not saying which ones are being supressed or making broad generalizations about agendas.
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Post by: TheHateThatHateMade on November 14, 2016, 03:50:35 pm
Iced, you don't know what you're talking about on this issue. Student groups, not universities, invite speakers. Many universities have suppressed those they don't like, raising bullshit fees at the last minute or suspending clubs for inviting people they don't like.

That's not 100% always true at all but it is a better point. You could argue that's more of a organization controlling and protecting what they perceive as their interests (as many organizations,companies, governments do) but i won't argue that point.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 14, 2016, 04:32:24 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/gVa1CZp.jpg)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 14, 2016, 04:50:11 pm
I made a grab it by the pussy joke today and later read that Joey Styles was fired for a similar joke.

Are these kinds of jokes not okay now???
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 14, 2016, 04:55:41 pm
context for people that don't follow smaller wrestler promotions: joey styles is a wrestling commentator
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Before the main event, Styles said to ring announcer Joanna Rose:

"Joanna, you look great tonight. And if our next President were here tonight, he’d want to grab you by the..."
he was fired mid-show. only in trump's america
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 14, 2016, 05:03:43 pm
They are supressing his conservative viewpoints due to democratic agenda in little children, thanks obama.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 14, 2016, 05:09:57 pm
Clearly

Are these kinds of jokes not okay now???

They never were. It's unprofessional as all hell, that'd get you fired in any ordinary place.

Given that it's the wrestle-verse here, people saying raunchy shit is part of the culture. But apparently staff was told beforehand to not make any references to the election in-show.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 14, 2016, 05:13:49 pm
Hmm..so I shouldnt make such jokes in public places where some hundred or thousand people might read it I guess. ...time to edit something.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 14, 2016, 05:17:47 pm
the biggest wrestling promotion, wwe, have made no references to the election whatsoever, even though trump has closely worked with them (he's in their fucking hall of fame) and the mcmahons donated to trump's campaign. talent have been told to avoid the subject on social media when possible. they know this election in particular is a very divisive issue and anything that resembles an opinion (for either candidate) will only make them lose viewers which they desperately need. they weren't shy about previous elections (although those segments went over really bad)


"hillary" and "obama" had a match in 2008 but both ended up destroyed by UMAGA
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 14, 2016, 05:40:31 pm
Hmm..so I shouldnt make such jokes in public places where some hundred or thousand people might read it I guess. ...time to edit something.
Not it your name's attached to it, Mr. Hoffmann. GBK can make as many pussy gabbing jokes as he wants, though.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Speedpreacher on November 14, 2016, 06:26:02 pm
the biggest wrestling promotion, wwe, have made no references to the election whatsoever, even though trump has closely worked with them (he's in their fucking hall of fame) and the mcmahons donated to trump's campaign. talent have been told to avoid the subject on social media when possible.

Of course, they probably just wanted to avoid the appearance of cronyism since the rumors are Linda's going to be part of the cabinet
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jango on November 14, 2016, 07:01:36 pm
Hmm..so I shouldnt make such jokes in public places where some hundred or thousand people might read it I guess. ...time to edit something.
Not it your name's attached to it, Mr. Hoffmann. GBK can make as many pussy gabbing jokes as he wants, though.
I'd like to know how you can even naturally segue into a pussy-grabbing joke in real life conversations.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 14, 2016, 07:15:53 pm
In foosball at work we do, when someone plunges his hand to catch the ball before it drops in the opponent's goal (and count it as a goal taken off of them). It's Trump's flirting method.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 14, 2016, 07:42:11 pm
Of course, they probably just wanted to avoid the appearance of cronyism since the rumors are Linda's going to be part of the cabinet
are you opposing trump's cabinet having women? are you afraid of a powerful female voice being part of the government? i'm getting sick of all the haters slay queen linda mcmahon has to deal with. it's 2016. donald trump was strong enough to take a stone cold stunner and so is linda mcmahon. equality win
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: OZ on November 14, 2016, 08:50:49 pm
I'd like to know how you can even naturally segue into a pussy-grabbing joke in real life conversations.

just say, 'guess who i am' and then grab them by the pussy
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 15, 2016, 01:16:09 am
now that he's been elected i hope he disavows david duke and the kkk
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 16, 2016, 04:21:35 am
Are there signs that this crazy circus is stopping anytime soon? Because while I do enjoy the hilarious clowning from the more insane anti-Trump people right now, I am getting tired of both the non-stop whining and popcorn. Do these people have anything better to do? It has been one week now.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 16, 2016, 04:38:31 am
We haven't even seen the worst of it yet. Come January 20 and we'll have at least 1 half-assed assassination attempt and countless snowflakes threatening to commit suicide. I hope at least one of them kills himself for real.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 16, 2016, 04:39:11 am
I hope at least one of them kills himself for real.
Damn dude
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 16, 2016, 04:41:04 am
We haven't even seen the worst of it yet. Come January 20 and we'll have at least 1 half-assed assassination attempt and countless snowflakes threatening to commit suicide. I hope at least one of them kills himself for real.

Heh, nothin' personnel kid
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 16, 2016, 04:55:09 am
Are there signs that this crazy circus is stopping anytime soon?
if youre already tired of this crazy circus i suggest you leave america for the next 4 (8?) years
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 16, 2016, 04:57:17 am
Till there's no more sensationalism in tv and no more social media would be better. I've no doubt it'd stayed a circus no matter who won
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Niitris on November 16, 2016, 05:03:06 am
The People's President
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2016/11/15/dwayne-johnson-for-president-2020---can-you-smell-what-the-rock/
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Duos.act on November 16, 2016, 05:05:57 am
Are there signs that this crazy circus is stopping anytime soon?
if youre already tired of this crazy circus i suggest you leave america for the next 4 (8?) years

Lol I don't think that's going to help him much considering the president of one of the largest and most influential countries on the planet is a person who affects the rest of the world as well.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 16, 2016, 05:15:33 am
that is true, he'd have to live under a rock. and speaking of that, dwayne isn't running in 2020 unless he becomes a democrat

also the third tweet in that article is about chris rock.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: DNZRX768 on November 16, 2016, 05:30:29 am
Are there signs that this crazy circus is stopping anytime soon?
if youre already tired of this crazy circus i suggest you leave america for the next 4 (8?) years

Nah, I'm only tired of the non-stop complaining from the Anti-Trump camp. Because saying the same rehashed complaints over and over again like a broken record will eventually drain away everyone's amusement.

But, I guess a nice long break from all of the politics would be a good idea...
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 地獄の花 on November 16, 2016, 03:02:32 pm
feels like america gone topsyturvy liberals rioting protesting ranting 8 years ago you'd hear that from conservatives.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 17, 2016, 05:15:04 pm
https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/799079032499343360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

MAGA
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Jesuszilla on November 18, 2016, 03:07:17 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxgoZb9UcAEZpS1.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 18, 2016, 03:12:49 am
it's kind of late to post that considering you've already made several posts here
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Melcore on November 18, 2016, 07:53:44 am
Jesuszillexit.

Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 18, 2016, 08:36:06 pm
here's a pretty good article about crying wolf and how that had an effect on the election
http://slatestarcodex.com/2016/11/16/you-are-still-crying-wolf/
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 22, 2016, 01:27:41 pm


...no comment.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: 地獄の花 on November 22, 2016, 01:56:56 pm
are they seriously believing trump is with them? and if he is do they think the president has enough power to make their fantasies real?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 22, 2016, 02:01:46 pm
are they seriously believing trump is with them?
Steve Bannon (from Breitbart News) is a huge figure in that movement and Trump named him chief strategist and senior counselor. It's not so much that Trump is with them as I think he just doesn't know what the difference is, and even why it's a big deal (everyone is saying his campaign was super clever because he won but it's much more obvious that he doesn't know the difference and he's just winging it and making shit up as it goes), but the result is the same.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on November 22, 2016, 04:24:01 pm
[cucks....crusader...children of the sun]
Posting this kind of shit in /pol/ is one thing, but how can someone say it aloud, in front of a crowd, and with a straight face?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on November 22, 2016, 04:28:57 pm
That quote makes it look like I said this shit :S


Btw, this video and the reactions are a topic here in Germany since people there do the Heil Hitler pose while yelling Hail Trump.

I still believe that Trump was the better choice than Hillary but this behavior is one of the dumbest things I've seen from his followers so far.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 22, 2016, 04:39:47 pm
the people that spent two years calling trump Literally Hitler are stunned that other people are saying heil trump
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 22, 2016, 04:54:08 pm
Not so much, they all knew he had the support of the KKK.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Chronan on November 22, 2016, 05:03:35 pm
It's a small non-relevant part of his follower base. When you see "alt-right" from the Atlantic what they are stuffing under that brand is everything from the average Trump supporter/voter to neo-nazis. Richard Spencer has been a retarded neo-nazi long before Trump came along, and doesn't change anything we knew about him. His support of Trump is ultimately meaningless in the grand scheme of things, but the comments on that video are pretty golden and what I'd expect from folks still following The Atlantic after they openly-admitted to their biased election coverage.
"Trump is an authoritarian, neo-nazi, fascist because that guy supports him! #Sanders2020"

They keep trying to tie neo-nazis and the KKK to Trump and paint these people as the Trump voter base, even though that's the kind of slanderous shit that got his voters amped up enough to go out and vote for him in the first place. Trump voters and Conservatives in the US shouldn't need to defend themselves from being branded as racists or nazis by saying they voted Trump to co-workers or classmates, but that's the kind of reporting and slant hat probably caused Trump's "silent majority" that polls only put at 25% against Hillary.

Or we could believe the bent-reality of Prof. Toni Morrison and the HuffPo who now blames white privilege for electing Donald Trump! Apparently a victory for Hillary would have given white americans and black americans an equal footing, like when those white men voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012. Totally insane! I'd link the article but it doesn't really deserve it and it's really just the usual from Huffington Post, just Google her name if your curious.

Not so much, they all knew he had the support of the KKK.
They are straight ticket republican voters. Has nothing to do with Trump honestly. Bush and Trump were pretty much opposing forces and both had their support. I would have been interested in what the KKK would have done had Ben Carson or Herman Caine had a chance as the republican candidate, just for the pure irony of it.

Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Iced on November 22, 2016, 05:10:20 pm
(http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cx0TImhWQAERJSX.jpg)

Cnn, giving air time to the REAL questions
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 22, 2016, 05:15:06 pm
They are straight ticket republican voters. Has nothing to do with Trump honestly. Bush and Trump were pretty much opposing forces and both had their support. I would have been interested in what the KKK would have done had Ben Carson or Herman Caine had a chance as the republican candidate, just for the pure irony of it.
I'm not saying everyone who supported Trump is KKK or that Trump himself is deeply tied to them. The point is that those who called Trump Hitler knew that he had the support of the KKK, so it's unlikely they're surprised that people are now going Heil Trump. If anything, it's a lot more of a "I told you so", regardless of what percentage of Trump's voter base they make.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 22, 2016, 05:18:26 pm
They are straight ticket republican voters. Has nothing to do with Trump honestly. Bush and Trump were pretty much opposing forces and both had their support. I would have been interested in what the KKK would have done had Ben Carson or Herman Caine had a chance as the republican candidate, just for the pure irony of it.

but would the kkk vote for a black republican ?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 22, 2016, 05:23:57 pm
That's the *checks who the hell Herman Caine is* joke.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Melcore on November 23, 2016, 08:06:34 am
They are straight ticket republican voters. Has nothing to do with Trump honestly. Bush and Trump were pretty much opposing forces and both had their support. I would have been interested in what the KKK would have done had Ben Carson or Herman Caine had a chance as the republican candidate, just for the pure irony of it.
I'm not saying everyone who supported Trump is KKK or that Trump himself is deeply tied to them. The point is that those who called Trump Hitler knew that he had the support of the KKK, so it's unlikely they're surprised that people are now going Heil Trump. If anything, it's a lot more of a "I told you so", regardless of what percentage of Trump's voter base they make.

but will he disavow?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on November 23, 2016, 06:43:50 pm
the amount of people that have the energy to go out and protest, but didn't have the energy to go out and vote, is negligible
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/people-arrested-portland-trump-protests-didn-vote-article-1.2874408 oh
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Just No Point on November 23, 2016, 06:49:02 pm
Wow... They deserve Trump -_-
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: -Whiplash- on November 23, 2016, 06:49:52 pm
Not surprised, in all honesty.

but will he disavow?

He has. (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/) Can people shut up about this shit now?
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Byakko on November 23, 2016, 06:59:21 pm
Wow... They deserve Trump -_-

Quick search says Oregon voted Clinton 51 to Trump 41. If it's not a swing state they're ok.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Melcore on November 23, 2016, 09:23:24 pm
Not surprised, in all honesty.

but will he disavow?

He has. (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/donald-trump-disavows-david-duke-kkk/) Can people shut up about this shit now?

but will he though?
Title: Re: Random Topic V10
Post by: Titiln on November 26, 2016, 01:25:42 am
(http://i.imgur.com/GIWTEwL.jpg)
:stare:
Title: Re: Re: Random Topic V10
Post by: Chronan on November 26, 2016, 06:16:42 am
(http://i.imgur.com/GIWTEwL.jpg)
:stare:
His backpedaling is golden too.
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Deleted my first quoted RT of this 'cuz my horrified irony landed wrong.
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Eh. It was a badly-worded joke. I'll just show 'em some of my early EVENING AT THE IMPROV tapes. Eeuuuch.
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I WASN'T kidding. I was trying to express my sincere horror at the situation and went too ironic. But keep working it, covergirl!
"It was meant to be ironic!"
"It was just a badly worded joke! My old stuff was just as bad lol!"
"It actually wasn't a joke haha. I was just too ironic and you all didn't get my wit!"
He's basically just Amy Schumer at this point but shorter.
Title: Re: Re: Random Topic V10
Post by: Byakko on November 26, 2016, 12:41:26 pm
That's not backpedaling. It wasn't a joke, it was irony, and it was badly worded. There's no backpedaling there, this isn't contradictory.
Title: Re: Re: Random Topic V10
Post by: Chronan on November 26, 2016, 04:56:21 pm
That's not backpedaling. It wasn't a joke, it was irony, and it was badly worded. There's no backpedaling there, this isn't contradictory.
Of course it wasn't a joke, except for when he said it was a joke. Which was before he said it wasn't a joke again, which is all quoted in my post by the way. Not contradictory at all, you got me!
Oswalt is a moron, he's stumbling all over himself as he tends to do when he backpedals, and he is by the way otherwise he wouldn't have deleted his irony, he would have salvaged it. He realizes he said something stupid as shit. He needs to stay off Twitter with his political "irony" or "jokes" or "satire", whatever he calls them at given hours of the day, 140 characters is not enough for his sarcastic genius.
Title: Re: Re: Random Topic V10
Post by: Byakko on November 26, 2016, 05:01:56 pm
Way to get worked up insulting someone over a missed joke.
Title: Re: Re: Random Topic V10
Post by: Chronan on November 27, 2016, 05:21:47 pm
Way to get worked up insulting someone over a missed joke.
? Pretty good stretch in logic there, but I've been making fun of Oswalt for about a year now for the fun of it, has nothing to do with his enriching irony above or.. his joke as you're now calling it. Maybe that's your version of 'badly worded irony' too? :(
And don't worry, he can handle a few insults from some nobody on a mugen website I'd hope, he is a supposed comedian after all.
Title: Elections reaction thread volume 2: Electoral Boogaloo
Post by: Dumanios on December 19, 2016, 04:31:17 pm
So, the Electoral College's election is going to be held today.

There have been a number of movements and pleas toward the Electoral College to sway toward Hillary, but I imagine the Electoral College will still vote Donald Trump, regardless of faithless electors.

Of course, if there's one thing this year has shown, it's that we're apparently really bad at predicting the future.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread volume 2: Electoral Boogaloo
Post by: Dumanios on December 20, 2016, 12:58:34 am
Apologies for double post.

The Electoral Vote concluded, Trump won. Interestingly enough, more electors tried to break from Hillary than from Donald. (http://www.npr.org/2016/12/19/506188169/donald-trump-poised-to-secure-electoral-college-win-with-few-surprises) Make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Foobs on December 20, 2016, 03:31:32 am
Not really surprising since some electors already made public they'd vote Sanders.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: PineappleProducer on December 20, 2016, 03:42:35 am
Interestingly enough, more electors tried to break from Hillary than from Donald. (http://www.npr.org/2016/12/19/506188169/donald-trump-poised-to-secure-electoral-college-win-with-few-surprises)

I found this completely hilarious.
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread
Post by: Titiln on December 20, 2016, 04:23:44 am
for some states said:
State law requires electors to vote for the winner of the state’s popular vote
lol whats the fucking point then

just replace those people with robots
Title: Re: Elections reaction thread volume 2: Electoral Boogaloo
Post by: DNZRX768 on December 20, 2016, 06:07:10 am
Interestingly enough, more electors tried to break from Hillary than from Donald. (http://www.npr.org/2016/12/19/506188169/donald-trump-poised-to-secure-electoral-college-win-with-few-surprises) Make of that what you will.

I guess Hillary's doesn't really inspire party loyalty?