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Title: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Abysswolf on February 04, 2009, 04:37:10 pm
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/cswsoon.png)


I made a new topic to make a more organized post about the progress of the game, since i don't think Orkimides will be coming here soon. You can find the old topic here (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=63825.0)

There isn't much to explain about what Card Sagas Wars is, just another cross-over fighter, but for this one we are making everything from scratch with our Card Gallery style, and adding some features to the classic MUGEN gameplay.

I can't really say when there will be a demo or a beta, since the sprite making in this really takes a lot of time. But we are showing videos periodically with our progress so everyone can see how everything is going (more or less..)

Character Progress

(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7462/progress0.png)


Somewhat completed characters


(More or less complete means that only minor things need tweaking, the construction and sprite/combo/sound creation should be done)
Not so completed


Mistery


Stages


These are the confirmed stages so far, we hope to make a stage per character. There doesn't seem to be many issues with the coding of these yet.


(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/thumb_x.png)
X Stage
Central Highway
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/thumb_ivy.png)
Ivy Stage
Library
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/thumb_soma.png)
Soma Stage
Lost Village
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/thumb_samus.png)
Samus Stage
Ceres Space Colony
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/thumb_chunli.png)
ChunLi Stage
China

(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6563/thumbcrono.png)
Crono Stage
Zenan Bridge
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Features



(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/INTERFACE.png)


There are two basic attacks, normal attacks and special attacks, also they are different depending which direction button you press.

But, using the special bars you can see above, you can chain another type of combos to the basic attack. We've called them Alpha Combos, Beta Combos and Dual Combos.

To execute these 3 type of combos, you have to do various button combination, plus you also need the Alpha and Beta bars.When you execute a combo, these bars go back to 0% and you'll have to wait until they are at 100% again. The time it takes to get the 100% depends on the combo you used.

For example, Link's Firebow (Down, Forward + Special) is a Beta Combo(since it uses the Special Button) and needs the Beta Bar to be at 100% to be used. Some other examples:

 
Alpha Combos

Crono - Rainbow Slash

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/COMCO3.png)

Lion - Soryuurengazan

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/COMCO2.png)

Beta Combos

KOS-MOS - Dual F.G. Shot

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/COMCO2%20asas.png)

Link - Firebow

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/COMBO0.png)
[/center]
 
   

Crisis Card is the name of the ultimate attacks in CSW. They aren't hard to use, but the difficult part is making it hit the enemy.
 
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/crisis0.png)


You can only use them once you're un critical state (your life bar is red), and you only have 2 Crisis Cards. Also you need both Alpha and Beta* bars at 100%

Once you use the Crisis Card the character uses a Chain Attack, which looks like a normal attack and can be blocked, but if it hits the enemy, the character will unleash all his power in the mighty Crisis Card Attack which can't be blocked. Even if you miss the Chain Attack, you will lose one Crisis Card.


X

Chain Attack - Zero Shot
   
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/crisisB01.png)

Crisis Card Attack - Giga Attack

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/crisisB0.png)

KOS-MOS

Chain Attack - R DRAGON

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/crisisA0.png)

Crisis Card Attack - X BUSTER

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/crisisA1.png)

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Apart from special attacks, combos and Crisis Cards, every character has a Unique Skill. What's this? The Unique Skill is more than a simple attack, it depends on the character you're using. Some change their fighting style, others allow new attacks, some call Helpers, and many more. Here's an example of an Unique Skill: Ivy's sword. With the Unique Skill, she can extend and contract her whip-sword, which changes her normal attacks.
 

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/ivymo0.gif)
  -  Unique Skill ->

 <- Unique Skill -

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/ivymo1.gif)
[/center]
 

Normal sword attacks are a little faster but less powerful, while the extended sword attacks are slower and more powerful, it has it's advantages and it's problems. In the lower part of the screen you can see the status of the Unique Skill, when it can be used, when it's being used, etc. To continue with Ivy, the icon will change depending on how's the sword, and it will be in white color when you can use it and black when you can't.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/icons.gif)



Green Series, or Support Card System, it's a 1on1 only game mechanic. You can summon characters from the whole Card Gallery and even some special appearances. (IMPORTANT: this DOESN'T mean that all the Card Gallery's cards will appear in the game as Green cards)

How do you use them?

Rank

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/cardc.gif)




(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/lvup.gif)
Rank

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/cardb.gif)




(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/lvup.gif)
Rank

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/carda.gif)
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As you can see in this sketch, there's always been a mysterious rank in the blue cards, which represents the difficulty to obtain that card. To receive these cards, you have to get hit several times or block the attacks. If you're not getting hit the card bar will decrease until it goes back to 0. If you manage to fill the bar, you'll get a new card or the one you already have will level up and you will be able to use it anytime you want to.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/interfaz.gif)


All the characters in CSW can use this, but the card you get is totally random. You can plan lots of different combos using the Support Card and the Alpha/Beta attacks of your character, but keep in mind not all the Support Cards attack, some of them will help your characters or even mess up with the enemy.

Here we show some of the Support Cards:


Rank A

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper3.png)
Sparkster
Rocket Rush

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper5.png)
Prince of Cosmos
Katamari Roll
Rank B

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper2.png)
Red Arremer
Fireball

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper4.png)
Guybrush
Cannon Proof
Rank C

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper0.png)
Bomberman
Kick Bomb

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper1.png)
Isaac
Move
[/center]



These special battles are still in a very early stage in development. We are planning to make them similar to the Smash Bros Boss Battles to give you an idea, every boss will have Super Armor and will follow a pattern of attacks. The Super Armor kind of works right now, but it will need a lot of fixing when we start working on these battles more deeply. The initial idea was to make 2 types of Boss Battles, one for simul and other for single player, but i'm not sure if that can be done, maybe we only put these battles in normal arcade, not sure. More info will come later.

Trailers



Screenshots/Sprite Work



(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5YT70z8i29s/Ti9QEWmKE3I/AAAAAAAAAGo/F4vEJkXymiE/s1600/walkstand.gif)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fmHCYnKLUgk/Ti9QEC-_SRI/AAAAAAAAAGk/GIgQKSLZS9c/s1600/lennetstand.gif)
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg823/scaled.php?server=823&filename=samus0.gif&res=gal)(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg832/scaled.php?server=832&filename=chief1.gif&res=gal)(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tfNRUaAgs2w/Ti9Qrag9pgI/AAAAAAAAAGs/rdPV9wPwc9Q/s1600/cronostand.gif)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-W5xiNmf4yGc/Ti9Qrgd-qpI/AAAAAAAAAGw/hU6KQFvrAEA/s1600/somastand.gif)
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/newlinkstand.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/newcloudstand.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/newxstand.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/newkosmosstand.gif)


(http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5744/spcloud.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/kosmosbig.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/xbig.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/linkbig.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/vscrono0.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/vssoma0.gif)(http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/6306/samusvs.gif)(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6753/chiefvs.gif)(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3251/walkvs.gif)(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5588/lennethvs.gif)

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/cswscreen.png) (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/cswscreen.png)


FAQ

Q: When does it come out?
A: There's no release date for now and we won't give dates, when the demo is ready we will upload it to the main page.

Q: What will include that demo?
A: It will only have 4 characters and 4 stages, but it will let you see how's the gameplay and graphic style.
These four characters will be: Link(Legend of Zelda), Cloud(Final Fantasy VII), X(Megaman X) and KOS-MOS(Xenosaga)

Q: How many characters will have the complete game?
A: 36 playable characters, but there will be more characters (not playable)

Q: Can you put XXXX from the YYYY saga?
A: Suggestions are wellcome, but at this point we already decided most of the playable characters.

Q: Will it include characters from comics, manga or movies?
A: No, only characters that originated in a videogame.
 
Q: The characters are too small!
A: We are using the Card Gallery style.

Q: Where did you get those sprites/animations/backgrounds/effects?
A: Everything is done from scratch, no ripping except for sound effects and voices.

Q: Are you going to put all the characters in the Card Gallery in CSW?
A: NO. That would be almost impossible since there are tons of characters in the Card Gallery.

Q: How are the special movements done? Is it like Street Fighter?
A: Special moves are done by pressing a direction and the Special Attack button, like the "Smash Bros" or "Tales of" series.
Then there are the Combos which are done by pressing a combination of buttons a la Street Fighter or other fighting games. And finally the Super Moves

Q: Will I be able to add the characters to my own MUGEN?
A: No, and the game will be moleboxed to prevent riping.


Credits

Creators: Ahruon and Orkimides
Special Thanks: Bane84 (coding)
Main Site: http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: ultimatedude on February 04, 2009, 05:29:05 pm
Oh, much better to obtain info. xD

On the previous post the info was all over the place, now its all organized. Looks like the game is going very well.

Dont have to rush the game, id rather have a late release than an incomplete demo xD

Good luck

btw, who is making those effects, they are insane :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Rote Zaungast on February 04, 2009, 05:55:14 pm
it's not just another cross-over fighter, trust me
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Logic on February 04, 2009, 06:09:39 pm
Do you guys do the pixel art from scratch?

P.S. my most anticipated character is Sora. I'm not saying that to sway your opinion or anything...actually I am.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on February 04, 2009, 06:39:31 pm
Do you guys do the pixel art from scratch?

P.S. my most anticipated character is Sora. I'm not saying that to sway your opinion or anything...actually I am.

I've seen a video of Ahruon drawing a character starting with just a simple stickman. He has a video of it. It made me even more jealous of him being able to draw so good.

Ahruon, this topic looks just like your website. Nice job.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Titiln on February 04, 2009, 06:52:09 pm
i saw the line about cloud and googled for psp sound ripping and what's the first result i get???
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=90982.0

it might help but maybe dissidia stores the sounds in a different format or something
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Agent Z on February 04, 2009, 06:56:02 pm
You sir, are GOD. This has to be the best original sprite work I've ever seen, and your dedication speaks for itself.

My only complaint are the stages. From the looks of it, none of them are original, and the main problem with that is that those stages are not made for chibi-sized characters.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Titiln on February 04, 2009, 06:59:51 pm
i'm pretty sure that the stages, although heavily based on other stages and locations from other games, are also drawn from scratch

i also think that they look fine as far as size goes??? the cars in x's stage seem proportionate to the small characters
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Cybaster on February 04, 2009, 07:13:03 pm
@ iloveflash  : Did you look at the last trailer ?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Bane84 on February 04, 2009, 07:15:57 pm
P.S. my most anticipated character is Sora. I'm not saying that to sway your opinion or anything...actually I am.

Sora may be a character that originated in a video game, but, to me, he falls right into the same category as the "ZOMG Naruto, Bleach, and DBZ" chars.  That, plus the whole "friendship will conquer all" sugary sweetness is too much for a game like this, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Logic on February 04, 2009, 07:42:27 pm
His personality may leave much to be desired but his gameplay would most definitely not.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: RNKxBoA on February 04, 2009, 07:51:20 pm
OMG...it looks awesome!
Can't wait!!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nickHD on February 04, 2009, 09:18:22 pm
maybe mario? he just should be in the game due to his stardom in all sorts of games and the game industry. it would also be nice to see a superheo like from capcom or marvel.
anywayz nice new thread and insane job on what youve achieved so far.
just one qeustion, do you guys enjoy the game when playing it? or can you play it(probably so, but i just wanted to know since you put so much work in it and maybe have no fun with the game youself and just let us enjoy:P)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Subass~ on February 04, 2009, 09:19:17 pm
DAMN YOU GUYS

because your game is just plain godness

you make all other mugen games look like garbage

DAMN YOU ALL
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Anjel on February 04, 2009, 09:20:47 pm
NM/BW hideout 2.0? :gonkgoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Haseo80 on February 04, 2009, 09:23:30 pm
since when does a couple of BW members make this a BW hideout

etna looks freaking sweet
and that some CC made me realise just how much i suck...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Abysswolf on February 04, 2009, 09:26:31 pm
btw, who is making those effects, they are insane :P

Both of us, using Photoshop and Particle Illusion. Though these effects make the characters REALLY heavy... Etna's sff file is around 44 MB big. I gotta clean it up a bit  ::)

Do you guys do the pixel art from scratch?

P.S. my most anticipated character is Sora. I'm not saying that to sway your opinion or anything...actually I am.

Yeah, eveything is from scratch. I don't think Sora will be playable... I had him in mind time ago but then i thought of better choices. I agree with Bane though, he can be annoying sometimes  ;D

i saw the line about cloud and googled for psp sound ripping and what's the first result i get???
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=90982.0

it might help but maybe dissidia stores the sounds in a different format or something

Hmm i didn't try this... but Square-Enix is really picky with their game protection heh, I couldn't get a single sound file of Valkirie Profile 2 for Lenneth's voices, I had to use the DS and PSX ones. I'm going to try it though.

My only complaint are the stages. From the looks of it, none of them are original, and the main problem with that is that those stages are not made for chibi-sized characters.

All the stages from the 5th trailer are from scratch, and were made according the character's size. At least that is the intention  ;D

maybe mario? he just should be in the game due to his stardom in all sorts of games and the game industry. it would also be nice to see a superheo like from capcom or marvel.
anywayz nice new thread and insane job on what youve achieved so far.
just one qeustion, do you guys enjoy the game when playing it? or can you play it(probably so, but i just wanted to know since you put so much work in it and maybe have no fun with the game youself and just let us enjoy:P)

Nope, no superhero characters, only characters originated in a videogame. And well... i don't really get bored with it because we are adding stuff all the time, but the lack of a good AI can get really annoying sometimes.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Subass~ on February 04, 2009, 09:33:00 pm
what happend to Orkimides?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Agent Z on February 04, 2009, 10:03:00 pm
Ah, my bad, I didn't see the latest trailer. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on February 04, 2009, 11:19:05 pm
Can't you guys read? Stop making requests for x character to be in the game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Titiln on February 04, 2009, 11:39:18 pm
weren't mario and lina in some old screenshots? were they removed from the game or something?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: c00p on February 04, 2009, 11:58:14 pm
This is the second time after KOFZ that a game being made in mugen really impresses me and makes me hesitate.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Dishamonpow on February 05, 2009, 01:49:26 am
I think Wario would fit more into the game :p
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Trayshawn on February 05, 2009, 02:16:40 am
why do ppl continue to bring up all these char requests when they specifically asked we not do that?

great game, AMAZING stages and effects. you guys gotta teach me how to do that sometime.

i definently love the variety of the game. And that whole gameplay system seems really well thought out.
And the supers are....my jaw dropped when i saw them.

i want to critique but honestly...there isnt anything i could crit on. good job.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: BadChad on February 05, 2009, 04:10:30 am
Love the new thread! Looks great. Keep up the great work!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: vamptod on February 05, 2009, 04:50:05 am
nice new thread  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Guilty on February 05, 2009, 10:22:17 am
AMAZING.

CSW and KOFZ are the unique good fullgames for Mugen. And CSW isn´t released yet XD


Btw, good luck, and don´t hear the cancer. Finish it when you want, don´t take those bastards seriously.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Cybaster on February 05, 2009, 10:35:12 am
CSW and KOFZ are the unique good fullgames for Mugen.
Hmm ... no.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Medevenx on February 05, 2009, 11:42:47 am
I thought K.O.D. helped you guys in the coding a long time ago? Isn't he supposed to be in the credits? Anyway all of your works are really great. Now, I'm just disappointed that you guys are using Sonic GBA/DS spritesheets for reference. Those are really bad and you guys can make better attacks for him. (check out Brawl) Anyway, you guys should really start a tutorial for animating attacks and stances extremely smoothly!!!!! Everybody, no I'm not exaggerating. EVERYBODY WILL LEARN FROM IT. (Just don't make it Spanish please. Your spriting tutorial is in Spanish and most people don't understand it :()
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Haseo80 on February 05, 2009, 11:46:57 am
then how about you learning spanish? its not that hard
but i do agree with the animation tutorial idea
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Medevenx on February 05, 2009, 11:50:43 am
Not everybody has the time to learn Spanish. Also, they can speak English, why don't they just make most of their text English? *points at card gallery*
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Cybaster on February 05, 2009, 12:07:26 pm
Because they're fluent in Spanish and are sure they won't make any mistakes by writing it in Spanish. Plus, by writing it in Spanish, half of the world can understand it (all Latin based language speaking people). 8)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Guilty on February 05, 2009, 12:52:08 pm
CSW and KOFZ are the unique good fullgames for Mugen.
Hmm ... no.

That´s my opinion :3
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nerubian_assasin on February 05, 2009, 01:48:13 pm
great game, may I ask something?? do you guys have a backup file of the game in case your computer crashes or something like that? because I don't want you guys to lose everything you worked for. I just asked this because some of the games I know were stopped due to computer problems... hope you guys finish the game soon ^^
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Titiln on February 05, 2009, 02:24:08 pm
That´s my opinion :3
it's pretty rude to disregard all other fullgames like that

Anyway, you guys should really start a tutorial for animating attacks and stances extremely smoothly!!!!! Everybody, no I'm not exaggerating. EVERYBODY WILL LEARN FROM IT. (Just don't make it Spanish please. Your spriting tutorial is in Spanish and most people don't understand it :()
combine the images on
http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/tut.htm
with the text on
http://web.archive.org/web/20070219222311/http://www.rgf-network.com/~thechaindog/tutorials/heihachi/

and there's your tutorial. once you can do sprites like those relatively quickly you can start thinking of animating. as for how they do it, i think they use other game animations as reference (just like you mentioned how they used sonic ds as a reference).
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Abysswolf on February 05, 2009, 04:10:03 pm
what happend to Orkimides?
Hmm.. nothing XD

weren't mario and lina in some old screenshots? were they removed from the game or something?
Those are from very early screenshots, but I really want Lina to be in. I think she's an awesome addition and I have lots of ideas for her gameplay... but Ork won't let me make her because she is from anime/manga :/ I allways thought of her as a perfect RPG heroine or something though.
Mario will be in eventually, i guess.

great game, may I ask something?? do you guys have a backup file of the game in case your computer crashes or something like that? because I don't want you guys to lose everything you worked for. I just asked this because some of the games I know were stopped due to computer problems... hope you guys finish the game soon ^^
Yup, no need to worry about that.


On another subject, I managed to get Dissidia's voices for Cloud except for the win and intro quotes, but it's still a big step for his completion.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on February 05, 2009, 09:24:43 pm
You actually managed to get his voices from Dissidia? Nice going! Did you rip them yourself or find a file with his voices over the internet?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: felineki on February 05, 2009, 09:36:33 pm
Given the nice pixel art for the character sprites and backdrops, it's a shame the effects are all of the blurry, transparent Particle Illusion variety. In my opinion, of course.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Dishamonpow on February 06, 2009, 04:28:29 am
why do ppl continue to bring up all these char requests when they specifically asked we not do that?

I was just picking around :p
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Kurizu208 on February 06, 2009, 11:37:24 am
LOL Yay new thread.

For some reason i'm looking forward to playing chocobo.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Haseo80 on February 06, 2009, 12:17:42 pm
^
who isnt xD
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Medevenx on February 06, 2009, 01:03:42 pm
Anyway, you guys should really start a tutorial for animating attacks and stances extremely smoothly!!!!! Everybody, no I'm not exaggerating. EVERYBODY WILL LEARN FROM IT. (Just don't make it Spanish please. Your spriting tutorial is in Spanish and most people don't understand it :()
combine the images on
http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/tut.htm
with the text on
http://web.archive.org/web/20070219222311/http://www.rgf-network.com/~thechaindog/tutorials/heihachi/

and there's your tutorial. once you can do sprites like those relatively quickly you can start thinking of animating. as for how they do it, i think they use other game animations as reference (just like you mentioned how they used sonic ds as a reference).
[/quote]

I already know how to make sprites in their style. I've already made Zero, Felt and Spider. I want to learn how to animate, and most likely everyone else wants too.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Bizarro Spike Lee on February 06, 2009, 08:24:34 pm
I have seen Chocobo and Etna in a MUGEN fullgame. Either I'm hallucinating, or someone is clearly trying to buy their way into my heart. AND IT'S DEFINITELY WORKING.

Anyways, I very much like the Tales-esque direction. It's a very flexible standard and it works quite well for Soma. :)
Good luck and please, continue to blow my mind.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Rote Zaungast on February 06, 2009, 08:53:50 pm
Given the nice pixel art for the character sprites and backdrops, it's a shame the effects are all of the blurry, transparent Particle Illusion variety. In my opinion, of course.
+1
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Mewtwo on February 07, 2009, 12:36:37 am
I just can't wait for this game to be released. ;D

Take all the time needed to make this awesome. :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nickHD on February 07, 2009, 01:33:37 am
ah found it out, its quite easy to animate like that with graphics gale. just lasso the object and turn the clock bit by bit.
(misses is this game:mario, solid snake, captain commando, killzone, tekken, kratos, tomb raider)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on February 07, 2009, 02:15:45 am
(misses is this game:mario, solid snake, captain commando, killzone, tekken, kratos, tomb raider)

...what? (I hope that wasn't a character request)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on February 07, 2009, 04:28:24 am
An awesome question. :P Who thinks the Chocobo will have a special with the Fat Chocobo? I have a feeling its going to have a Fat Chocobo Summon and another summon of a bunch of Chocobos running across the screen owning the opponent. It just sounds so right for some reason. :)

Oh! I'm curious about something else too. Will their be any characters or enemies that can fly? Maybe even a flying boss?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Dr.Chapatín on February 07, 2009, 04:53:43 am
Congratulations on great work! I'm expecting big news and the release :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Magius on February 07, 2009, 04:05:59 pm
I have been watching this for awhile and it looks to be the most promising full game there is but about the dissidia voices will they only be jp or will they change when the US release of dissidia comes out, and I know you hate requests but I can't help myself(your game is too awesome to resist but I won't say anything more of this) if possible I would like gilgamesh(ffv) and hope for Isaac(golden sun) but if you need any help I can try to be supportive but I doubt it.   

 I wish you luck in your game and will wait patiently.    :o ;D :sugoi:

also think fat chocobo summon is a good idea.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Logic on February 08, 2009, 01:32:17 am
I watched the video again and saw that you are using some of the DS/GBA Sonic sprites. I suggest you guys not since it will look weird.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Rote Zaungast on February 08, 2009, 01:49:50 am
I think everything will be 100% by them, either you are seeing things or there is just something unfinished/placeholder
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Titiln on February 08, 2009, 01:55:54 am
i think they used the ds/gba sprites as references for animation

also stop suggesting characters!! i am pretty sure they've already picked everybody they want in the game
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Abysswolf on February 08, 2009, 03:10:50 am
I guess it might look similar to the DS/GBA sprites because the size is a bit similar and we based some movements from those games, but still all of Sonic's and every character sprites are from scratch.

The only thing that might be a placeholder is his default colors, Ork said that he wanted to make the default colors darker like in Sonic's older games instead the actual light blue in recent games. Still the light blue would be an alternative color.

I can't say anything about Fat Chocobo..  ::)

About the blurry effects... not really sure how to fix it, they look good on Particle Illusion but get a bit blurry when importing them to MUGEN. The latest effects we made (Nina's) look less blurry though.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on February 08, 2009, 04:00:08 am
About the blurry effects... not really sure how to fix it, they look good on Particle Illusion but get a bit blurry when importing them to MUGEN. The latest effects we made (Nina's) look less blurry though.

It's matter of personal taste really. I, for example like blurry stuff.

Concerning trailer I can't anything new, maybe simple good luck with finishing all those stuff.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Bizarro Spike Lee on February 08, 2009, 07:44:50 am
ah found it out, its quite easy to animate like that with graphics gale. just lasso the object and turn the clock bit by bit.
(misses is this game:mario, solid snake, captain commando, killzone, tekken, kratos, tomb raider)

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Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on February 08, 2009, 08:05:07 am
I can't say anything about Fat Chocobo..  ::)

That's fair. I'd rather be surprised than knowing everything before it comes out.

Ze Question Masta haz anothzer question. :P
I'm not requesting anything! I am just asking if you or Orkimides have ever thought about having movie characters? Like Van Helsing (Your Werewolf transformation from DeviantArt reminds me of him a lot!) or.... or.... I can't think of anyone else. OH! Kadaj or the other 2 from AC? The guy from Kung Pow Enter The Fist, lol. Okay dumb question. There aren't many movie guys that you could add so it's pointless to think about having movie characters.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nickHD on February 08, 2009, 06:25:37 pm
not really requesting, more keeping the thread alive:P
btw would it be possible that we could get to see a full one on one battle sometime?
instead of seqeunces of all sorts a battles.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: PotS on February 08, 2009, 06:33:02 pm
About the blurry effects... not really sure how to fix it, they look good on Particle Illusion but get a bit blurry when importing them to MUGEN. The latest effects we made (Nina's) look less blurry though.
You can try making them hi-res, often when resizing effects for lo-res they lose detail and therefore sharpness.  But I think felineki was "suggesting" they could also have that classic sprite look rather than using transparencies.

WHAT
Tomb Raider's not a classic?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Cybaster on February 08, 2009, 06:37:10 pm
Tomb Raider's not a classic?
Tomb Raider, Killzone and Tekken are not characters. ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: PotS on February 08, 2009, 06:42:11 pm
Yeah I'm sure everyone thinks of L-block when they hear Tomb Raider. Next time say Lara Croft and provide pictures. :wacko:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Cybaster on February 08, 2009, 06:44:34 pm
Lara who ?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on February 08, 2009, 09:02:06 pm
not really requesting, more keeping the thread alive:P
btw would it be possible that we could get to see a full one on one battle sometime?
instead of seqeunces of all sorts a battles.

They already mentioned a full one on one battle. If I remember correctly. Ahruon said he didn't like the video because the AI sucks badly. So I think he is or was hesitant about uploading the video. You'll just have to wait and see. He's probably already decided.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nickHD on February 08, 2009, 09:45:46 pm
yeah but maybe he could make a new one, my favourite trailer was trailer one.
you can see the entire match combos you can make, strategies etc.
would be so nice if we sawa full one on one battle now.
lets cross our fingers :sugoi:

btw. the first demo would only have 4 characters, so why are you making 22?
is the demo enlarged?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: BadChad on February 08, 2009, 09:57:10 pm
Im sure the demo will only have the 4 original planned characters. But remember, not even the demo characters are 100% completed yet. And stages still need to be made for Cloud, Link and Kos-Mos.

Just cause there showing progress on the rest of the characters dosent mean there gonna be in the demo. Its so we can get a little taste of whats to come when the project is finished.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Frooley on February 09, 2009, 01:50:13 am
yeah but maybe he could make a new one, my favourite trailer was trailer one.
you can see the entire match combos you can make, strategies etc.
would be so nice if we sawa full one on one battle now.
lets cross our fingers :sugoi:

btw. the first demo would only have 4 characters, so why are you making 22?
is the demo enlarged?
I Already Cross My Fingers Right Now I Cant Wait For The Demo
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Bizarro Spike Lee on February 09, 2009, 06:18:17 am
Tomb Raider's not a classic?
Tomb Raider, Killzone and Tekken are not characters. ::)

And Lara Croft and Jan Templar do not belong in a fighting game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: -Red- on February 09, 2009, 06:51:37 am
there's no way to make simul less buggy because mugen's GAY

here hoping for tag team instead  :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: O Ilusionista on February 09, 2009, 08:18:48 am
oh my!

I already know that site, but never know that a full game was on the work...the sprite work its so amazing that makes my project a plain crap :(

But its life.

Congrats for the wondeful project.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Xardas on February 09, 2009, 05:28:06 pm
One word: AWESOME  :D

I have a question though: will it have any sort of net multiplayer?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: ultimatedude on February 09, 2009, 06:33:58 pm
I have a question though: will it have any sort of net multiplayer?
I can predict the answer to this question...

The characters Ahruon mentioned seem to be really good, i dont want to see some lame movie people in a video game cross over.

and adding Sora doesnt seem like a good idea, there are many other swordsmans in this game and doesnt need much more, it will end up being characters that play nearly the same with different sprites xD

btw, good luck again


Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Agent Z on February 09, 2009, 06:46:45 pm
and adding Sora doesnt seem like a good idea, there are many other swordsmans in this game and doesnt need much more, it will end up being characters that play nearly the same with different sprites xD

That's a terrible reason to exclude such a popular character...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Abysswolf on February 09, 2009, 07:06:33 pm
Eh? Sora's a swordsman? XD

There are a lot of varied fighting styles in CSW but the most frecuent one is indeed swordmanship.... that's the only reason i'm hesitant on adding Isaac.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Bane84 on February 09, 2009, 07:28:14 pm
Eh? Sora's a swordsman? XD

There are a lot of varied fighting styles in CSW but the most frecuent one is indeed swordmanship.... that's the only reason i'm hesitant on adding Isaac.

He's a Keysman.  BTW, Isaac > Sora.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Xardas on February 09, 2009, 07:52:55 pm
(...)that's the only reason i'm hesitant on adding Isaac.
Please finish first the characters already in game before adding new ones(cough*Dante*cough). You know, I think everybody here wants to play at least the demo in this year  ;)

PS. Sorry for my bad English.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Agent Z on February 09, 2009, 09:32:47 pm
Eh? Sora's a swordsman? XD

There are a lot of varied fighting styles in CSW but the most frecuent one is indeed swordmanship.... that's the only reason i'm hesitant on adding Isaac.

BTW, Isaac > Sora.

Oh no you di'n't! o_O

And who cares about fighting styles, it's the aesthetic value of the characters that counts. If you like Isaac, go ahead and add him, no one will hate you for it. I sure as hell would love to see him in a fighting game for once (and not as a stinkin' assist trophy--ugh).
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nickHD on February 09, 2009, 11:14:30 pm
you should add isaac, he has such big great summons that no other character has and sora has his fusions with donal and goofy+summons and diffrent sorts of keyblades.
there both diffrent in attacks even if they are swordsmen. would be real nice if you add them ;)
(starting to fall in love with the, i already printed out all the screenshot and i take a last look at them before going to bed :P)

edit:dante? why did i forgot him:P boh guns swords, demon mode. bohhh :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: O Ilusionista on February 09, 2009, 11:36:38 pm
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and adding Sora doesnt seem like a good idea, there are many other swordsmans in this game and doesnt need much more, it will end up being characters that play nearly the same with different sprites xD

I think that Sora is a good choice, its quite original.

I think that not so "main spot" characters could be nice, that characters that we don't remember on the first time we think in a game. Take, for example, NeoGeo Battle Coliseum..nobody ever dreamed that they could add Mudman.

Ah, its not a request...but there will be any World Heroes chars, like C. Kidd?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Magius on February 09, 2009, 11:41:44 pm
Well isaac could mix between sword and magic/psynergy but I see your point and
I agree 100% Isaac>Sora 

and of course he has his summons most notably judgment and charon as those the the two dominant
earth/venus elemental summons although catastrophe is the best looking in the series (well to me anyway)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: RagingThunder on February 10, 2009, 12:53:41 am
Your doing a very nice job Ahruon, you have my support. (the only support I can offer is encouragement)

I'm really liking the roster (Cloud, Mai, Soma - ftw)

It's bothering me so I have to ask: What games do Reiji, Nina, Lion, and Yugo come from?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Abysswolf on February 10, 2009, 01:10:12 am
Reiji - Namco X Capcom
Nina - Breath of Fire 2
Lion - Tales of Destiny
Yugo - Bloody Roar

Ah, its not a request...but there will be any World Heroes chars, like C. Kidd?

Nope.. never played that game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on February 10, 2009, 01:56:23 am
Sora? I never thought about him. I can see it now. Sora transforming into Anti Form and raping everything.

There's Breath of Fire characters in CSW? Will the protagonist and antagonist from Breath of Fire IV be in CSW? First, I was talking about Ryu (#223) and Fou-Lo (#374). Second, nevermind. I can see you have cards of them both.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: O Ilusionista on February 10, 2009, 02:17:05 am
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Nope.. never played that game.

oh I see. There are some great chars on that game
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: King of Questions on February 10, 2009, 02:41:50 am
Three Questions from the K.O.Q.

1. Will characters have special intros? Like if they fight a certain person they have a different intro.

2. Along with number one, will it also have a special win pose with it?

3. I looked at the card gallery and was wondering what do As, Bs, and Cs stand for on the cards?

I can't really of anymore questions but I'll think of some sooner or later. Anyway the game looks great...actually looks more than great it's...it's...I don't any words to describe this soon to be Master Piece!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: BadChad on February 10, 2009, 05:51:57 am
I think Sora should be in. So much work has been done on him so far why not make him playable, or even unlockable.Sure there will be a few sword weilding characters but thats just because alot of the characters that use swords happen to be really sweet. (*Praying Ryu Hayabusa's still on the to do list*) And there will still be alot of other fighting styles...

And im with iloveflash, if you want to add Isaac you should. Your the one spending countless hours making sprites for characters, if Isaac is a character you'd like to see in your game then you should go for it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nickHD on February 10, 2009, 10:54:37 pm
will there also be very big playable characters? like bigger than donkey kong, but playable(no boss)
(wish juggernaut could be in here but yeah hes from comics, tv series. or a wrestler character would be nice)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Haseo80 on February 10, 2009, 10:57:36 pm
nick stop wishlisting its getting annoying
they are the ones to decide which chars will be in
requesting will make them waste their time by reading on what people want and  makes the requester looks like a whiner

if they wanted input or feedback theyd have asked already

that being said i dont have any complaints about the characters you guys are using up until now im actually surprised to see some of them (such as soma and etna)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: GDM on February 10, 2009, 11:20:00 pm
I think that baiken should be in card saga wars and gig from soul nomad
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Titiln on February 10, 2009, 11:33:02 pm
i think that every character from every game ever should be in card sagas wars!!!!!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Haseo80 on February 10, 2009, 11:38:54 pm
stop whining >:(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Mewtwo on February 11, 2009, 01:06:42 am
i think that every character from every game ever should be in card sagas wars!!!!!!

QFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But that would take ages for them to do all that.But anyway the requesting will have to stop.Because if they fulfill one person's request then others will want to request and it'll get rather stressful.So let the man decide what he wants and don't want in his game.I want Felix to be in it Badly but you don't see me asking them to add him in.There's alot of characters that I'd love to see in it.But they will not add them because they don't have to.

Anyway Arhoun do whatever you want.Pay no mind to the ppl asking for you to put this and that in the game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: tetsuo9999 on February 11, 2009, 01:08:21 am
I think Hulk Hogan should be in.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Agent Z on February 11, 2009, 01:31:10 am
i think that every character from every game ever should be in card sagas wars!!!!!!

/thread
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Trayshawn on February 11, 2009, 01:46:13 am
stop wishlisting its getting annoying

...seriously

can a mod or sumthing delete all these posts asking or "wishing" or thinking, or whatever they name it, for chars. it really is annoying after they asked ppl not to. and dont say it wasnt a request, because you wouldnt have even mentioned it if you didnt want them to consider it (for those of you that are gonna come after this and be all "noez it wasnt really a request").

i think that every character from every game ever should be in card sagas wars!!!!!!
sarcasm for the win!!!....atleast i hope it was...its getting kinda hard to tell, cuz the way things been so far...
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I want Felix to be in it Badly but you don't see me asking them to add him in.

so could you guys plz stop requesting. they asked that we dont, and it would be real crappy if we annoyed them so much they just discontinued the game. so stop jeez.

to ahuron and orkimedis (probably spelled that wrong) - well....great game...what more can i say? XD. i look forward to the next trailer. 

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on February 11, 2009, 01:59:19 am
I don't think an admin like Titiln would so blatantly disregard the topic creator's wishes like that. It was obvious sarcasm. Work on bettering your judgement. :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: KudosForce on February 11, 2009, 02:34:32 am
Ahuron, I must say that your project has me thrilled! :sugoi: I love crossovers and I'm greatly anticipating your game (I don't mind the wait).

It'll be nice for me to play an actual online fighting game with a Mugen engine without any of those complicated requirements. The Smash Bros-inspired gameplay sounds neat, too.

By the way, your sprite art? Magnificent! I like seeing all those neat little touches they have. :wub:

However, when I saw those backgrounds of yours, I've realized how much you are truly dedicated to your art. I respect that very much. :2thumbsup:

It's too bad that you won't accept requests, though. I would have loved to see Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star in there...  :(

I must admit that seeing Chocobo being confirmed as a playable character came out of left field. :o
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: vortex35 on February 11, 2009, 03:17:13 am
I havent been paying too much attention to this thread, I knew the art work was gorgeous and that the game looked fun but now I HATE, HATE!!!!! myself for not doing so that trailer made me wanna cry. Now that the game industry is entering into the world of 3D we we would not have ever seen a game like this come out anywhere else. I have a Cousin who doesnt reall like mugen but after he sees this new trailer he is gonna be hooked to this game. quick question tho will there be story to this or just sheer going at either way I couldn't care but i do like story
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: O Ilusionista on February 11, 2009, 03:48:28 am
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it really is annoying after they asked ppl not to. and dont say it wasnt a request, because you wouldnt have even mentioned it if you didnt want them to consider it (for those of you that are gonna come after this and be all "noez it wasnt really a request").

hey, wait. So we can't ASK? that is way different of "please, to XXXX from game XXX". If somone doesn't want any opinion, don't open a topic....its quite simply, isn't it?

Oh, back to the topic....

How the transformations will work with Throws? The transformed chars won't be affected by throws?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: vamptod on February 11, 2009, 05:20:19 am
i think that every character from every game ever should be in card sagas wars!!!!!!

lol i agree sarcastic or not i still agree XD  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Mewtwo on February 11, 2009, 05:30:18 am
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quick question tho will there be story to this or just sheer going at either way I couldn't care but i do like story

That's something I'd love to know as well.Will there be a story?Will the characters have different Endings,Special Intros,etc?Or you haven't thought of doing so yet?But hey you don't have to add a story.Who needs a story when we have a great game right?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Titiln on February 11, 2009, 05:58:25 am
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If somone doesn't want any opinion, don't open a topic....its quite simply, isn't it?
they'd rather have opinions on what they've already shown instead of opinions on a bunch of new characters they probably don't care about.

i guess people can ask for this character and this character and this other character, but to what purpose? they've already picked what they want in the game, people. you could keep posting about how much you want krystal and geno in the game, but your posts probably won't do a lot.

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How the transformations will work with Throws? The transformed chars won't be affected by throws?
mugenchina's kofz worked around this but i don't really know how
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Palette Jesus on February 11, 2009, 06:05:37 am
You can set you own common animations for characters in a full game, making every character recognize those sprites(transformation) is pretty easy and does not take much time at all once you get it done for one character. So i wouldn't be surprised if they functioned normally.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: O Ilusionista on February 11, 2009, 03:45:35 pm
oh yeah, its a closed game, I've forgot that. They can make custon anims for that easily.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nickHD on February 13, 2009, 05:43:16 pm
the site is pretty nice, but what do the green cards actually mean since theyre not viewable?
and what is the diffrence between all colour cards?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Mewtwo on February 13, 2009, 06:02:42 pm
the site is pretty nice, but what do the green cards actually mean since theyre not viewable?
and what is the diffrence between all colour cards?


That's what I'd like to know.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Haseo80 on February 13, 2009, 06:06:45 pm
its explained on their site
blues are the characters themselves
red cards are the random enemies such as goombas in SMB
and the greens are still a secret
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nickHD on February 13, 2009, 06:49:49 pm
ah okay but then the greens arent explained, i guess theyd be the bosses then or something.
btw will this be the final gameplay system(the one you posted for chrono)
(keeeeping the threaaiiid alivvvooo)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on February 13, 2009, 07:50:22 pm
You don't need to worry about keeping the thread alive. I've already revived the thread twice. It's not like Ahruon won't post anymore, either.

Also, what do you mean "(the one you posted for chrono)"? Their gameplay is on their first page. It starts at "Features" and ends at "Bosses".
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: BadChad on February 14, 2009, 02:18:22 am
He's just rambling on..... --;
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: darkninja333 on February 17, 2009, 02:54:18 am
you spelled mystery wrong XD lol srry  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: theendgamelv3 on February 18, 2009, 01:17:20 am
I read you guys had Lina Inverse for a tiny bit, but pulled her out due to the fact she is a anime character (If I am correct, Ahruon wanted her in and Orkimides said no cause she is a anime character), but aren't you guys gonna put anime characters due to this

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Q: Will it include characters from comics, manga or movies?
A: There will be a few manga-anime characters we wanted to put so badly that we had to. But it will mainly be videogame characters.

This isn't a request, but a clarification on the status of any kind of anime character. If there aren't gonna be any anime characters, you guys should update the FAQ to create less confusion lol.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on February 19, 2009, 06:32:45 am
How goes the progress, Ahruon? Having any trouble of some sort? No?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Frooley on February 19, 2009, 12:29:27 pm
I read you guys had Lina Inverse for a tiny bit, but pulled her out due to the fact she is a anime character (If I am correct, Ahruon wanted her in and Orkimides said no cause she is a anime character), but aren't you guys gonna put anime characters due to this

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Q: Will it include characters from comics, manga or movies?
A: There will be a few manga-anime characters we wanted to put so badly that we had to. But it will mainly be videogame characters.

This isn't a request, but a clarification on the status of any kind of anime character. If there aren't gonna be any anime characters, you guys should update the FAQ to create less confusion lol.
I Think he said he dont want anime characters in here just video game characters well I Know its less confusion
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: crossevolve on February 19, 2009, 02:10:10 pm
I read you guys had Lina Inverse for a tiny bit, but pulled her out due to the fact she is a anime character (If I am correct, Ahruon wanted her in and Orkimides said no cause she is a anime character), but aren't you guys gonna put anime characters due to this

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Q: Will it include characters from comics, manga or movies?
A: There will be a few manga-anime characters we wanted to put so badly that we had to. But it will mainly be videogame characters.

This isn't a request, but a clarification on the status of any kind of anime character. If there aren't gonna be any anime characters, you guys should update the FAQ to create less confusion lol.
I Think he said he dont want anime characters in here just video game characters well I Know its less confusion

Its ok to me because there is Asuka Langley in the card list
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Frooley on February 19, 2009, 10:57:04 pm
I read you guys had Lina Inverse for a tiny bit, but pulled her out due to the fact she is a anime character (If I am correct, Ahruon wanted her in and Orkimides said no cause she is a anime character), but aren't you guys gonna put anime characters due to this

Quote
Q: Will it include characters from comics, manga or movies?
A: There will be a few manga-anime characters we wanted to put so badly that we had to. But it will mainly be videogame characters.

This isn't a request, but a clarification on the status of any kind of anime character. If there aren't gonna be any anime characters, you guys should update the FAQ to create less confusion lol.
I Think he said he dont want anime characters in here just video game characters well I Know its less confusion

Its ok to me because there is Asuka Langley in the card list
yeah I guess its ok to me i know they want anime characters so much well they want Video game characters will probably awesome
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: KudosForce on February 23, 2009, 01:21:01 am
I read you guys had Lina Inverse for a tiny bit, but pulled her out due to the fact she is a anime character (If I am correct, Ahruon wanted her in and Orkimides said no cause she is a anime character), but aren't you guys gonna put anime characters due to this

Quote
Q: Will it include characters from comics, manga or movies?
A: There will be a few manga-anime characters we wanted to put so badly that we had to. But it will mainly be videogame characters.

This isn't a request, but a clarification on the status of any kind of anime character. If there aren't gonna be any anime characters, you guys should update the FAQ to create less confusion lol.
I Think he said he dont want anime characters in here just video game characters well I Know its less confusion

Its ok to me because there is Asuka Langley in the card list
yeah I guess its ok to me i know they want anime characters so much well they want Video game characters will probably awesome

No anime characters? Well, that's a shame. :(

But hey, at least they will still include most of the video game characters from the card gallery along with characters from many other games, right?  :suttrox:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nerubian_assasin on February 23, 2009, 03:05:44 am
hey Ahruon, did you draw all those pictures in the card gallery??? just wondering....
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: BadChad on February 23, 2009, 05:35:35 am
Ahruon and Orkimides did. There the two making the project.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: nerubian_assasin on February 24, 2009, 03:54:36 am
oh.. ok, w0w, they are so good at what they're doing, nice.. ^^
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Jed on February 25, 2009, 06:43:53 am
well it seems this is going well  ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: kaijyuu on February 25, 2009, 07:20:52 am
This is still in production? Awesome.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Abysswolf on February 25, 2009, 04:26:47 pm
Fixed the anime characters question in the faq, also uploaded a test video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7csVZLYlKk&fmt=18

As said in the description, they don't have AI and just go random on each other... Crono can't even use Lightning properly  ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: KudosForce on February 25, 2009, 04:53:53 pm
Fixed the anime characters question in the faq, also uploaded a test video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7csVZLYlKk&fmt=18

As said in the description, they don't have AI and just go random on each other... Crono can't even use Lightning properly  ::)

I must ask you; You are putting much more effort into this than all the other Mugen fighters. Why is that? Are there any specific reasons why you and Orkimedes decided to make this crowd-pleasing cross-over game?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Hadoabuser on February 25, 2009, 05:15:19 pm
Lol at Crono, every time he did use it Etna punished him.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on February 25, 2009, 06:57:12 pm
Fixed the anime characters question in the faq, also uploaded a test video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7csVZLYlKk&fmt=18

As said in the description, they don't have AI and just go random on each other... Crono can't even use Lightning properly  ::)

I must ask you; You are putting much more effort into this than all the other Mugen fighters. Why is that? Are there any specific reasons why you and Orkimedes decided to make this crowd-pleasing cross-over game?

I'd like to know as well. Unless it's personal of course. Then I would want to hear it even more. ::)

@Video
They don't have an AI? Etna looks pretty tough to me.
I never noticed before, but I really like how Etna maces, axes, spears, and guns. Chrono should of raped Etna though. ;P

Excluding the characters. The look of the game looks great so far. If you're making a screen pack I can't wait to see what it looks like. ^_^
Also, what is the prinny in the bottom left and the lightning bolt in the bottom right?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Agent Z on February 25, 2009, 06:57:59 pm
It may be hard to believe, guys, but there are people who actually enjoy doing this kind of stuff for people.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: KudosForce on February 25, 2009, 07:35:54 pm
It may be hard to believe, guys, but there are people who actually enjoy doing this kind of stuff for people.

I was under the impression that they were doing it for the art, but I guess that I could go with that. ;)

But still, I have to admit that, judging by the extensive detail in the backgrounds and characters, I can see how dedicated they are to their work.

To think that there are a bunch of characters that are already confirmed in this topic, and that there's a message under the shadowed characters (in the CSW site's tutorial section) that says that it's only the beginning? The mind boggles at the possibilty of a huge roster. :o

I'm anxious for the day when they will take requests, as I will gladly propose my suggestions to them.  :2thumbsup:

I have to wonder what characters we will see next update.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: KudosForce on February 25, 2009, 10:35:18 pm
Slightly off-topic, but I've been looking through the card gallery in "source" mode and noticed some series that I am not at all familiar with.

I am wondering, what are "Cazarunas", "Eternal Dreams", "Eternal Dreams: Mooncry of the Night", "Eternal Rage", "Guardian Chronicles" and "La Leyenda Heroen" supposed to be, games? If so, what consoles are they for? I've searched in Google, Gamefaqs and Wikipedia, but couldn't find any info about those.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Abysswolf on February 25, 2009, 10:50:08 pm
No fights pleeeease :/


I'd like to know as well. Unless it's personal of course. Then I would want to hear it even more. ::)

@Video
They don't have an AI? Etna looks pretty tough to me.
I never noticed before, but I really like how Etna maces, axes, spears, and guns. Chrono should of raped Etna though. ;P

Excluding the characters. The look of the game looks great so far. If you're making a screen pack I can't wait to see what it looks like. ^_^
Also, what is the prinny in the bottom left and the lightning bolt in the bottom right?

Neither have an AI per se, but they do have a little upgrade that makes them attack much more often, they just don't think how to use them and just spam them like crazy.
The icon is the Prinny Toss icon, when you summon a prinny the icon turns black&white (not visible in that video yet), and you can't summon another prinny until the icon tells you so (by returning to it's original color)

It may be hard to believe, guys, but there are people who actually enjoy doing this kind of stuff for people.

Well, I do enjoy making this right now, but I (personally) am not doing it for people/fans... it's impossible to please every one of them (I've even seen some people in a forum insulting us just for the concept of the game), so I focus on making things that I would like to see in a game like this, and if more people like it, that's great too.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: KudosForce on February 25, 2009, 10:58:24 pm
Well, I do enjoy making this right now, but I (personally) am not doing it for people/fans... it's impossible to please every one of them (I've even seen some people in a forum insulting us just for the concept of the game), so I focus on making things that I would like to see in a game like this, and if more people like it, that's great too.

Ohh, I see. Thanks for sharing.

BTW, about the question I asked a few posts earlier, I would like to know the answer...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Titiln on February 25, 2009, 11:15:31 pm
argument about sprites split off to http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=94433 enjoy
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Zanryu on February 25, 2009, 11:19:42 pm
Anyways, arguments aside, I might as well comment on the progress since the shoutbox was taken off of the Card Gallery since I joined.

I envy you and Orky, I really do. You two are some of my main inspirations to improve my sprite work, and this game looks frigging phenomenal. I can't wait to play it when it releases.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: KudosForce on February 25, 2009, 11:36:36 pm
Well, since my question hasn't been answered yet, I'll post it again:

Quote
I am wondering, what are "Cazarunas", "Eternal Dreams", "Eternal Dreams: Mooncry of the Night", "Eternal Rage", "Guardian Chronicles" and "La Leyenda Heroen" supposed to be, games? If so, what consoles are they for? I've searched in Google, Gamefaqs and Wikipedia, but couldn't find any info about those.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Jed on February 26, 2009, 12:54:53 am
oh well so as i said hope you guys can make this game as good as any and sorry of that fight you can take me idea or not but it was only a suggestion any way good luck dudes see you when i release gundam war or when this game comes out  ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Noctis on February 26, 2009, 07:44:59 am
No fights pleeeease :/


I'd like to know as well. Unless it's personal of course. Then I would want to hear it even more. ::)

@Video
They don't have an AI? Etna looks pretty tough to me.
I never noticed before, but I really like how Etna maces, axes, spears, and guns. Chrono should of raped Etna though. ;P

Excluding the characters. The look of the game looks great so far. If you're making a screen pack I can't wait to see what it looks like. ^_^
Also, what is the prinny in the bottom left and the lightning bolt in the bottom right?

Neither have an AI per se, but they do have a little upgrade that makes them attack much more often, they just don't think how to use them and just spam them like crazy.
The icon is the Prinny Toss icon, when you summon a prinny the icon turns black&white (not visible in that video yet), and you can't summon another prinny until the icon tells you so (by returning to it's original color)

It may be hard to believe, guys, but there are people who actually enjoy doing this kind of stuff for people.

Well, I do enjoy making this right now, but I (personally) am not doing it for people/fans... it's impossible to please every one of them (I've even seen some people in a forum insulting us just for the concept of the game), so I focus on making things that I would like to see in a game like this, and if more people like it, that's great too.

Yeah. I noticed that a lot. Still very amazing.
Oh, so that's what it was. I remember hearing something like that somewhere before...

Anyways. So basically you're just making the game because you want to see things in this game that aren't in other games? Or something like that? And that you enjoy making this game?
Wow. You would think that you would've gotten tired of CSW already. That just shows how much determination and energy you two have.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: KudosForce on February 26, 2009, 02:49:15 pm
Anyways. So basically you're just making the game because you want to see things in this game that aren't in other games? Or something like that? And that you enjoy making this game?
Wow. You would think that you would've gotten tired of CSW already. That just shows how much determination and energy you two have.

This certainly proves that they are doing it for the art, and that's something that I can greatly appreciate.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Subass~ on February 26, 2009, 11:58:01 pm
why not earn profits out of your amazing skill

if i had such talent i would have rang the door at a ds company,

anyways its awsome

still looking forward to a animation tutorial

and keep it up
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: nerubian_assasin on February 27, 2009, 10:34:36 am
hey, i'm just wondering.. why did you make a video with etna and chrono?? aren't they unfinished characters?? why didn't you make a video about cloud or link or whatever?? ^^
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: RagingThunder on February 27, 2009, 11:01:38 pm
hey, i'm just wondering.. why did you make a video with etna and chrono?? aren't they unfinished characters?? why didn't you make a video about cloud or link or whatever?? ^^

If you look closely enough you would notice that on the front page Etna and Chrono are under the "Completed" heading. Why would he choose these two characters? Because he can. I'm sure we have seen more Link and Cloud than Etna and Chrono so it works out in the end.

By the way thanks for the background game info on the characters. Ever since you told me Nina is from Breath of Fire II I've started playing the game :)

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: nerubian_assasin on February 28, 2009, 01:08:45 am
yeah... sorry for my st*p#d question ^^,
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Titiln on March 08, 2009, 04:53:51 am
another argument split off to another thread. if you want to talk about how this project should have 120 characters in order to meet your expectations, use that thread.
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=94894.0
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: rukifellth on March 08, 2009, 04:37:54 pm
Hmmm about the bosses idea, I have made two custom cards that you might like, and I did follow your tutorial on your site on making CSW styled sprites.

It's Porky from Mother3 and SSBB:

(http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/r/Rukifellth/148807/irihrsexlq.jpg)

If you like it, I also made some animations, but I'll have to sort them correctly...

Also, I made another card based on a character from Tomato Adventure, the game Alphadream made before Mario&Luigi SuperstarSaga, and the game that Nintendo would use as a base for the Mario&Luigi RPG Series:

(http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/r/Rukifellth/148807/luoevmcrcc.jpg)

Perhaps he could work in CardSagasWars as a surprice character, who knows. :S

ParrotHead was kind enough to have made a video showcasing all of Demille's weapons in action aswell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XnxI04MhM
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: The Phantasm on March 08, 2009, 08:06:05 pm
Do you guys plan to make stages from other games or will it be one stage per character only?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on March 08, 2009, 10:12:15 pm
well everyone i have finally cracked!  ive finally made myself to actually join this and all thanks to this freaking sweet game. bout time to i guess since i do come on here to see if there are any new chars/stages i can add and thats about everyday.  so i guess i can say that im glad to finally be here!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on March 08, 2009, 10:20:20 pm
Do you guys plan to make stages from other games or will it be one stage per character only?

im not sure what ur implying with making stages from other games but they are making 1 stage per character
from different games
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Haseo80 on March 08, 2009, 10:25:44 pm
its good that you decided to join the guild and all but avoid double posting

while in this topic i might as well ask
are you guys planning on any other disgaea character other than etna?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on March 08, 2009, 10:30:47 pm
ya i know... though i never really knew the reason why it was bad(doesnt seem bad to me anyway) but i will try not to do it
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: KudosForce on March 08, 2009, 10:45:31 pm
Also, I made another card based on a character from Tomato Adventure, the game Alphadream made before Mario&Luigi SuperstarSaga, and the game that Nintendo would use as a base for the Mario&Luigi RPG Series:

(http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/r/Rukifellth/148807/luoevmcrcc.jpg)

That's pretty good. You oughta ask Ahruon and Orkimides if they want to put your card on their gallery.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on March 08, 2009, 10:55:10 pm
Also, I made another card based on a character from Tomato Adventure, the game Alphadream made before Mario&Luigi SuperstarSaga, and the game that Nintendo would use as a base for the Mario&Luigi RPG Series:

(http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/r/Rukifellth/148807/luoevmcrcc.jpg)

That's pretty good. You oughta ask Ahruon and Orkimides if they want to put your card on their gallery.

  :((sigh) its too bad im not good enough to even try that and even make it into a character
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Noctis on March 09, 2009, 02:00:58 am
its good that you decided to join the guild and all but avoid double posting

while in this topic i might as well ask
are you guys planning on any other disgaea character other than etna?

Someone mentioned all of these characters as possible playable characters (Laharl, Adell, Ike, Flonne, Luke, Guy, Tear, Jade, Anise, Cless, Colette, Arche. Auron and Tidus too.), and Ahruon replied saying none of them are playable characters. So I think it's just Etna. You know, I've always been curious. Why is it whenever a Disgaea character is playable in another game, it's always Etna? Laharl just makes cameo appearances. (I'm not referring to CSW)

Also, I made another card based on a character from Tomato Adventure, the game Alphadream made before Mario&Luigi SuperstarSaga, and the game that Nintendo would use as a base for the Mario&Luigi RPG Series:

(http://static3.filefront.com/images/personal/r/Rukifellth/148807/luoevmcrcc.jpg)

That's pretty good. You oughta ask Ahruon and Orkimides if they want to put your card on their gallery.

I think this falls in the category of requesting. So they'll probably deny it. Maybe it doesn't though. ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on March 09, 2009, 02:18:42 am
this may be a definite no, but i was wondering if any of the support characters will be playable such in example: crono's supports like robo,marle,frog etc. as characters you can play.

also i would love to see some anime chars that have been rarely made or havent yet(have enough naruto,dbz,though would love to see them in this style) such as ed&al(assuming they are together) roy,armstrong,tales of symphonia chars,ohh and definitely skies of arcadia would be nice. but i am aware u have your selected choices already so i can only hope when u decide to add more.

on another note: you ought to make tos2 chars in the gallery(at least) that would be pretty cool too :) okay done.....
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: The Phantasm on March 09, 2009, 04:10:53 am
Do you guys plan to make stages from other games or will it be one stage per character only?

im not sure what ur implying with making stages from other games but they are making 1 stage per character
from different games
I mean stages from games that won't have characters in this game.
Like a stage for a character that didn't make it in.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Siebzehn on March 09, 2009, 04:20:25 am
I don't know if the final characters were decided, but I'd really like Ark to be in the game. Because Ark is awesome.

If they were, drat. Unless Ark's in it. Then Awe-sauce.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: KudosForce on March 09, 2009, 09:06:57 pm
You know, I've always been curious. Why is it whenever a Disgaea character is playable in another game, it's always Etna? Laharl just makes cameo appearances. (I'm not referring to CSW)

Maybe that's because she became Disgaea's poster girl, in the same way that Morrigan became Darkstalkers' poster girl? I dunno. Either that, or the character designer likes lolis (as was theorized on the Author Appeal page of TV Tropes).

I think this falls in the category of requesting. So they'll probably deny it. Maybe it doesn't though. ::)

I was not talking about the card making it in CSW. Technically, custom-made character cards made by other people can be accepted in the card gallery. In fact, some of the cards in the gallery were made by completely different people.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Noctis on March 09, 2009, 10:06:45 pm
You know, I've always been curious. Why is it whenever a Disgaea character is playable in another game, it's always Etna? Laharl just makes cameo appearances. (I'm not referring to CSW)

Maybe that's because she became Disgaea's poster girl, in the same way that Morrigan became Darkstalkers' poster girl? I dunno. Either that, or the character designer likes lolis (as was theorized on the Author Appeal page of TV Tropes).

I think this falls in the category of requesting. So they'll probably deny it. Maybe it doesn't though. ::)

I was not talking about the card making it in CSW. Technically, custom-made character cards made by other people can be accepted in the card gallery. In fact, some of the cards in the gallery were made by completely different people.

Flonne is more popular than Etna though. Just doesn't make sense. Etna is very cool though so I'm not that worked up about it.

It stills fall under the category of requesting and they said they are not taking requests at this time. That's all I'm saying.

Anyways, who is your favorite in Disgaea? I'm curious because my brother thinks Laharl is the coolest ever and doesn't think much of Adell, but I think Adell is the coolest ever.

And finally, is it just me? Or is there over 5-6 pages missing? I get the feeling I'm forgetting something.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Haseo80 on March 09, 2009, 10:17:27 pm
yeah defintely having 1 disgaea char is already cool enough but i always did like laharl more...and even prinnies still etna is also awesome

not directed at me i know but imma still answer my favorite disgaea char right now is mao having laharl as a close 2nd and prinny in 3rd....who can avoid loving awesome exploding penguins
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Siebzehn on March 09, 2009, 10:24:25 pm
And finally, is it just me? Or is there over 5-6 pages missing? I get the feeling I'm forgetting something.

There was a topic split.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Noctis on March 10, 2009, 12:22:28 am
And finally, is it just me? Or is there over 5-6 pages missing? I get the feeling I'm forgetting something.

There was a topic split.

Oh yeah... I can't believe I forgot about that already. :S

yeah defintely having 1 disgaea char is already cool enough but i always did like laharl more...and even prinnies still etna is also awesome

not directed at me i know but imma still answer my favorite disgaea char right now is mao having laharl as a close 2nd and prinny in 3rd....who can avoid loving awesome exploding penguins

Mao? Really? I haven't played the 3rd one yet so I can't judge you, lol. I don't need to play the 3rd one though, my favorites will remain the same. Adell, Rozalin, and Laharl. Rozalin at second because I guess I have a thing for chicks like Rozalin. Evil, but wants to be loved. Sorry Flonne. Adell at first because he's just so... epic. And he kissed Rozalin. :P

Now, this question is sort of for Ahruon, but anyone can answer it.

Is it possible to/Will we be able to pick Cloud where his clothes change into AC Cloud? Like a palette?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Haseo80 on March 10, 2009, 12:26:40 am
yes mao is awesome hes very similar to laharl actually
and i actually think disgaea 3 story is better than the first

also adell was very meh is a too cliche hero fighting for the sake of his family yadayadayada
rozalin was cool though

at your question
a pallete to resemble it is possible indeed but afull costume is HIGHLY unlikely since theyd have to do 2 spritesets 1 per costume and even then it would bug on custom states (well it actually wouldnt seeing as it is a closed game and all but still worth a mention)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Noctis on March 10, 2009, 12:52:29 am
I think I need to get Disgaea 3... :P

Well, that's your opinion. IMO, it was epic.

Oh yeah, they would have to re-sprite his clothes in order to do that. Anyways, my question was is it possible to click on Cloud (as if you're choosing another palette) and become AC Cloud. (Completely different outfit and weapon) And then if it was possible, then my question would become "Will we have the option of choosing between Cloud and AC Cloud like you would a palette?".
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: KudosForce on March 14, 2009, 08:11:18 pm
Anyways, my question was is it possible to click on Cloud (as if you're choosing another palette) and become AC Cloud. (Completely different outfit and weapon) And then if it was possible, then my question would become "Will we have the option of choosing between Cloud and AC Cloud like you would a palette?".

If we could do something like that, Ahruon would have told us about it by now...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: BadChad on March 14, 2009, 09:02:15 pm
That sounds like alot of work, I doubt it. Im thinking every character will have about 4-6 different colour palettes and thats it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Noctis on March 14, 2009, 10:38:30 pm
Those are just opinions. I'm not really curious about it anymore anyways so it doesn't matter.
Anyways, I'll be posting again on the next update.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Loud Howard on March 16, 2009, 06:48:17 pm
the project looks good, but we will have, godlike characters(quakeguy ranger, Doomguy,B.j BLaskowitz)?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: nerubian_assasin on March 17, 2009, 08:21:50 am
any new updates?? ???
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Haseo80 on March 17, 2009, 10:53:51 am
updates will come when ppl stop asking for it
...its in the rules
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Dr.Chapatín on March 17, 2009, 08:38:40 pm
Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7csVZLYlKk&fmt=18
Why u dont put up the floor to takes a little the amplitude?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: nerubian_assasin on March 18, 2009, 02:13:40 am
updates will come when ppl stop asking for it
...its in the rules

oh.. ok, sorry
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Abysswolf on March 18, 2009, 06:09:32 pm
Another gameplay video with Soma and Cloud:

http://tinyurl.com/cmuufd



I don't remember if I mentioned it earlier  but I changed the FAQ a bit in this thread to prevent confusion.
Reply time, I hope I don't miss anyone this time...

There will be mostly 1 playable character per saga, with one exception or two, so characters like Etna or Crono will be the only playable characters in their sagas. Still, several characters from their respective games will most likely get an appearence somewhere (Crono's combos, Etna's stage etc)

About stages, there will be (in our intentions) 1 per character.

I saw some post concerning alternate outfits and I'm afraid we won't make any, it's really time consuming and isn't worth it (in my opinion at least), but each character has 6 palettes.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7csVZLYlKk&fmt=18
Why u dont put up the floor to takes a little the amplitude?
What do you mean?

this may be a definite no, but i was wondering if any of the support characters will be playable such in example: crono's supports like robo,marle,frog etc. as characters you can play.
Nope, support characters aren't playable.


Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Haseo80 on March 18, 2009, 06:11:53 pm
my heart got soft when i saw clouds winpose...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Titiln on March 18, 2009, 06:23:49 pm
What do you mean?
i think he means making the floor higher. i was thinking about that recently too. having so much jump space might look too empty, unless you're planning on making the game heavy on air combat

sorry for this HORRIBLE HORRIBLE rushjob image i made to illustrate what he might be saying
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2q9g8z8.jpg)

you could also consider raising the floor level and moving the lifebars down, but this might involve drawing extra stage parts (unless you made the lifebar part cover that space completely) and reworking the lifebars. it's just a possibility, though.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dxjlll.png)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Rōjenomu on March 18, 2009, 06:32:25 pm
(http://i40.tinypic.com/2lxe7vb.png)
2:11 soma falls abit too low
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: KudosForce on March 18, 2009, 06:42:59 pm
I don't remember if I mentioned it earlier  but I changed the FAQ a bit in this thread to prevent confusion.

Merçi beaucoup. :beam:

There will be mostly 1 playable character per saga, with one exception or two, so characters like Etna or Crono will be the only playable characters in their sagas. Still, several characters from their respective games will most likely get an appearence somewhere (Crono's combos, Etna's stage etc)

That pretty much corresponded to my assumptions, so that's good enough. Also, it makes sense that there are exceptions, since Mario and Bowser will seem to both be in CSW (of course, when those two are involved, it goes without saying that one is not there without the other ;)).

About stages, there will be (in our intentions) 1 per character.

Great!  :thumbsup:

BTW, I thought that Soma's win pose where he turns into a bat was kinda cute. :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Rote Zaungast on March 18, 2009, 06:47:44 pm
I like what I'm seeing with soma

I think it would be better if you made the flames surrounding soma with your own style rather than particle illusion they look pale, you could also use the p.illusion ones as a glow behind the sprite flames, or just use transparency on the sprite flames...(same for the cloud projectile and most the rest of the overall game ones)
soma's blue flames that spawned from the ground looked cool as is though
I know that would be a bit of a pain in the ass, but would you consider this later at some point?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Raizo on March 18, 2009, 07:00:21 pm
This gets better every time I see it. It's my most anticipated W.I.P in Mugen at the moment. Keep up the amazing work! :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Rōjenomu on March 18, 2009, 07:02:27 pm
flames could be made abit darker but they certainly don't have to be replaced
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on March 19, 2009, 12:07:52 am
Auhruon said:
There will be mostly 1 playable character per saga, with one exception or two, so characters like Etna or Crono will be the only playable characters in their sagas. Still, several characters from their respective games will most likely get an appearence somewhere (Crono's combos, Etna's stage etc)
so your saying your going to add cloud and sephiroth(assuming your adding him) and maybe another character depending on if you want to. so what makes u decide whether to incorporate them into the character's combo, as a character or stage.


this may be a definite no, but i was wondering if any of the support characters will be playable such in example: crono's supports like robo,marle,frog etc. as characters you can play.
Auhruon said:
Nope, support characters aren't playable.


thats what i figured i mean as much as i would love to have the rest of them it would even be more time consuming with all the tech each character would have. plus having crono fight frog using each other for a support would look weird :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Etna VS Crono)
Post by: spikeriley on March 19, 2009, 12:12:55 am
Auhruon said:
There will be mostly 1 playable character per saga, with one exception or two, so characters like Etna or Crono will be the only playable characters in their sagas. Still, several characters from their respective games will most likely get an appearence somewhere (Crono's combos, Etna's stage etc)
so your saying your going to add cloud and sephiroth(assuming your adding him) and maybe another character depending on if you want to. so what makes u decide whether to incorporate them into the character's combo, as a character or stage.


No Tails as a playable, no download!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Gale_Reiki on March 19, 2009, 12:44:01 am
I've been working on an original sprite (my first sprite artwork EVER).

(http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll76/ricace21/Gale-1.png)

I've made this using the tutorial on the site, it"s very helpful.  ;)

I know that it's nowhere near complete yet (and I suck with shoes.), but I'm just wondering what you all think of it so far.

Btw, the project looks like it's coming along very well, can't wait to see how it is when it's complete.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on March 19, 2009, 12:44:57 am
I'm love it how you mix RPG stuff with fighting in real time. It's funny how much ppl love your work while most of Mugen community said they don't like chibi characters. Personally I love they can be much more funnier than big ones.

Kinda annoying how people request for adding chars. I will be pleased not matter which chars will be playable. I trust in your knowledge and Ii'm sure you pick up best ones.

Good luck.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Siebzehn on March 19, 2009, 12:48:55 am
I have nothing against chibi's. It's just that it's a type of character I don't use too many times. Like KOF/MK fighters, and such.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Titiln on March 19, 2009, 12:49:18 am
I know that it's nowhere near complete yet (and I suck with shoes.), but I'm just wondering what you all think of it so far.
that's really good looking for a first attempt, but if you want feedback on your sprites you're better off making a thread at http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?board=340.0
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Agent Waffle on March 19, 2009, 12:51:11 am
Ivy, but no Siegfried?

BAH HUMBUG.  But it looks interesting though... :ninja:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Hadoabuser on March 19, 2009, 02:35:19 am
 :o It looks like Soma has 3/4 all the souls from AOS as a move then it looks like he has a super version of each  :-X
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Gale_Reiki on March 19, 2009, 02:48:52 am
I know that it's nowhere near complete yet (and I suck with shoes.), but I'm just wondering what you all think of it so far.
that's really good looking for a first attempt, but if you want feedback on your sprites you're better off making a thread at http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?board=340.0


I asked for feedback here because the process of making the sprite was based on the tutorial on their site, besides, makes it easier on me to just come here and check my feedback and updates on Card Sagas Wars at the same time.  ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Gale_Reiki on March 19, 2009, 03:35:02 am
Thanks for your response by the way.  ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Zanryu on March 19, 2009, 04:01:48 am
you could have just added that to your previous post

So? Any big deal really?
I don't see any... other than the fact that double posting is against the rules on 99% of all forums in existence. Should be common knowledge...

Cloud looks frigging BRUTAL. I said I'd main him as soon as he was announced, this video reassured me. Soma's looking sick as well.

Would it be possible for you to make a video some time sorta like a Hi-Ougi Exhibition? Like, where all the characters' Crisis Card Attacks are shown? I personally think that'd be sick.

Keep doin' what you do.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Titiln on March 19, 2009, 04:12:07 am
I don't see any... other than the fact that double posting is against the rules on 99% of all forums in existence. Should be common knowledge...
it's not really a rule here and i find the complaining about double posting far more of a posting waste than the double posting itself
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Noctis on March 20, 2009, 09:12:06 pm
Cloud had 2 moves that I recognized from Dissidia. They looked great. What was Cloud using when he spins at 2:10?

Soma (Is he from Castlevania?) didn't do to bad for someone with no AI. Cloud was very aggressive for someone with no AI.

Stage looks amazing. I was expecting only the snow to be animated. I can't wait to play on those stages.

Clouds win pose, FTW!

These SaGas... Will it be like this? I choose Etna and she fights through a series of battles and one of those enemies will be her rival? Like Chrono? And will there possibly be a story? Or, are the SaGa's different from what I'm imagining?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: ExShadow on March 21, 2009, 12:10:30 am
O.O this game looks better everytime i see it
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: tetsuo9999 on March 21, 2009, 12:13:39 am
Wow, the backgrounds look awesome. :)

BTW What game does "Soma" originate from?..
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: rukifellth on March 21, 2009, 12:33:17 am
Castlevania Aria of Sorrow, and Dawn of Sorrow...

He's Dracula reincarnated after his permanent death in year 1999. Altough, he's not evil, he's just cursed to be born with Drac's soul inside him, giving him the power of Dominance that let's him take over demon souls to use as he wish as abilities. During a solar eclipse, he and his girlfriend Mina Hakuba are both spirited away to Dracula's Castle to be tested to see if he fits to become the Dark lord incarnated. He escaped his fate thanks to the help from Julius Belmont, Yoko Belnades, and Genya Aricardo (Alucard).

A couple of years later, while enjoying company with Mina, he is assaulted by a cult that tries to find a NEW candidate to be the Darklord, and seeing him as a problem (considering that he got Drac's Soul) they have decided to assassinate him. He defeats them thanks to Aricardo's help and decides to go to the Cult's lair, a replica of Dracula's Castle, where he encounters and defeats the two new candidates: Demitri Blinov and Dario Bossy. In the end, he has to encounter his own darkness and finally put an end to an omnipotent Demitri whoce powers turns against himself...

So in short, he is Dracula...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: RagingThunder on March 21, 2009, 04:09:45 am
I see you got the perfect music for that stage in the video, brings back memories.
Heck, that stage looks better than the original background art for the game, lovin' it.
Soma's skillset matches his original style in Castlevania, very impressive. Love the WinPose animation.

I too am a Cloud fanboy, and you didn't dissapoint with his current creation in Card Sagas Wars. I saw Cross Slash from the original game, a charging skill similar to one he used in Kingdom Hearts, and of course the classic WinPose. You do a good job in staying true to the character's style.

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Zanryu on March 21, 2009, 06:00:58 am
I don't see any... other than the fact that double posting is against the rules on 99% of all forums in existence. Should be common knowledge...
it's not really a rule here and i find the complaining about double posting far more of a posting waste than the double posting itself
Never said it was a rule here, but it's against the rules on almost every forum and is looked down upon for the most part on those without the rule in place.

Think you could supply some hints as to what the next video will contain, Ahruon? Or will there even be another test video?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: じゆう on March 21, 2009, 03:56:56 pm
Awesome. :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Agent Z on March 21, 2009, 06:47:25 pm
Every time I look at those lifebars, *weird stuff happens inside me.*
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Gale_Reiki on March 21, 2009, 06:59:10 pm
Never said it was a rule here, but it's against the rules on almost every forum and is looked down upon for the most part on those without the rule in place.
Not really much of a point in continuing this conversation is there, I mean really? Just move on people.   -_-

I'm just speaking in general really, it bothers me when stuff like this keep going for something so trivial.

On topic: Even without A.I. Cloud seems just great, everything seemed to match his personality perfectly, and I love the old school victory pose n_n

Can't wait to see what's next.  :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: The Phantasm on March 22, 2009, 04:36:03 am
The only thing that bothers me is the shadows (maybe i've played too much mugen) I can't believe how professional the sprites and animations look! :o
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: KudosForce on March 22, 2009, 04:02:17 pm
I can't believe how professional the sprites and animations look! :o

I know! Isn't it marvelous? :gugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: vortex35 on March 25, 2009, 04:32:06 am
My cousin HATES mugen for some reason but he can't wait for this to come out I showed him the trailer video 5 and he was amazed you may have broken him with this project :sugoi: lol nice work guys
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: handbanana on March 25, 2009, 11:46:35 pm
Idk in a way reminds me of Namco x Capcom the way the characters are
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Shunu on March 26, 2009, 12:48:22 am
wow dude this look pretty nice!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: KudosForce on March 26, 2009, 04:46:51 pm
Idk in a way reminds me of Namco x Capcom the way the characters are

Yup, except that unlike NxC, CSW will actually be playable in America. ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: BadChad on March 27, 2009, 04:04:50 am
Actually Namco X Capcom is playable in the english now. A full english translation rom patch was released by TransGen.
 http://transgen.890m.com/download.php?view.4
And if you really wanted to you could burn it to a disc and play it on a modded PS2!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Abysswolf on March 27, 2009, 03:44:58 pm
What do you mean?
i think he means making the floor higher. i was thinking about that recently too. having so much jump space might look too empty, unless you're planning on making the game heavy on air combat

sorry for this HORRIBLE HORRIBLE rushjob image i made to illustrate what he might be saying
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2q9g8z8.jpg)

you could also consider raising the floor level and moving the lifebars down, but this might involve drawing extra stage parts (unless you made the lifebar part cover that space completely) and reworking the lifebars. it's just a possibility, though.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dxjlll.png)

Yeah, I personally like to air combat a lot in this game, so the first option would waste quite some space on the screen, plus the camera would bounce a lot everytime someone jumps. The second mockup is a layout I also had in mind long time ago, but I couldn't get used to look down for checking the HUD...I guess i'm too used to: RPGs> Bottom HUD, Fighting Games> Top HUD heh

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2:11 soma falls abit too low
I never noticed that, but it seems it doesn't happen in most falls... weird, I'll check it out


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I think it would be better if you made the flames surrounding soma with your own style rather than particle illusion they look pale, you could also use the p.illusion ones as a glow behind the sprite flames, or just use transparency on the sprite flames...(same for the cloud projectile and most the rest of the overall game ones)
soma's blue flames that spawned from the ground looked cool as is though
I know that would be a bit of a pain in the ass, but would you consider this later at some point?
I agree that some effects look really pale in Soma's stage, but I guess it's because the whiteness of the stage... problem is that we wanted to keep some consistency and have no pixeled effects/particles. I'll see what we can do about it.


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These SaGas... Will it be like this? I choose Etna and she fights through a series of battles and one of those enemies will be her rival? Like Chrono? And will there possibly be a story? Or, are the SaGa's different from what I'm imagining?

My idea for the arcade battles is pretty simple and straightfoward; for example an arcade playthrough would contain 16 stages:

Battle 1
Battle 2
Battle 3
Bonus Stage
Boss Battle 1
Battle 4
Battle 5
Battle 6
Bonus Stage
Boss Battle 2
Battle 7
Battle 8
Battle 9
Bonus Stage
Boss Battle 3
Final Battle (with character's rival)

Everything would be random except the final battle, maybe it's impossible to do but it's the idea I have in mind right now.

On a side note, even if I said that there wouldn't be alternative costumes I'm trying to make some palettes look like alternative versions of the characters:

(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2103/alternates.gif)

Red/Blue tunic Link, TP Link, Dissidia Cloud, T-ELOS KOS-MOS, Gold Armor X etc
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Titiln on March 27, 2009, 04:10:52 pm
The second mockup is a layout I also had in mind long time ago, but I couldn't get used to look down for checking the HUD...I guess i'm too used to: RPGs> Bottom HUD, Fighting Games> Top HUD heh
HMM to be honest the more i look at the bottom lifebars layout the more i like it. the characters don't look so small and the space for air combat is clearly defined, while in the regular lifebars layout the lifebars might get in the way (but that probably doesn't happen that often to begin with), also remember that smash has the life information on the bottom too!
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Everything would be random except the final battle, maybe it's impossible to do but it's the idea I have in mind right now.
as far as i know there's no way to have a character fight a set character as his final battle
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: PotS on March 27, 2009, 04:17:08 pm
Bottom lifebars work in that stage because it has an unusually high fighting plane, with other stages shown in the first post it wouldn't work.
Which reminds me that the fighting plane should be more uniform across all stages.

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Everything would be random except the final battle, maybe it's impossible to do but it's the idea I have in mind right now.
as far as i know there's no way to have a character fight a set character as his final battle
There isn't any elegant way to make that possible.  Most you can do is code all the bosses as one character and then choose which form to use by checking who's the opponent. :knife:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Rōjenomu on March 27, 2009, 04:31:21 pm
with all the stuff going on on screen
especially with more than 2 chars on screen plus the crisis card attacks
i would say no to changing the lifebars otherwise it become pretty chaotic
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Noctis on March 27, 2009, 09:50:57 pm
What do you mean?
i think he means making the floor higher. i was thinking about that recently too. having so much jump space might look too empty, unless you're planning on making the game heavy on air combat

sorry for this HORRIBLE HORRIBLE rushjob image i made to illustrate what he might be saying
(http://i42.tinypic.com/2q9g8z8.jpg)

you could also consider raising the floor level and moving the lifebars down, but this might involve drawing extra stage parts (unless you made the lifebar part cover that space completely) and reworking the lifebars. it's just a possibility, though.
(http://i43.tinypic.com/dxjlll.png)

Yeah, I personally like to air combat a lot in this game, so the first option would waste quite some space on the screen, plus the camera would bounce a lot everytime someone jumps. The second mockup is a layout I also had in mind long time ago, but I couldn't get used to look down for checking the HUD...I guess i'm too used to: RPGs> Bottom HUD, Fighting Games> Top HUD heh

Quote
2:11 soma falls abit too low
I never noticed that, but it seems it doesn't happen in most falls... weird, I'll check it out


Quote
I think it would be better if you made the flames surrounding soma with your own style rather than particle illusion they look pale, you could also use the p.illusion ones as a glow behind the sprite flames, or just use transparency on the sprite flames...(same for the cloud projectile and most the rest of the overall game ones)
soma's blue flames that spawned from the ground looked cool as is though
I know that would be a bit of a pain in the ass, but would you consider this later at some point?
I agree that some effects look really pale in Soma's stage, but I guess it's because the whiteness of the stage... problem is that we wanted to keep some consistency and have no pixeled effects/particles. I'll see what we can do about it.


Quote
These SaGas... Will it be like this? I choose Etna and she fights through a series of battles and one of those enemies will be her rival? Like Chrono? And will there possibly be a story? Or, are the SaGa's different from what I'm imagining?

My idea for the arcade battles is pretty simple and straightfoward; for example an arcade playthrough would contain 16 stages:

Battle 1
Battle 2
Battle 3
Bonus Stage
Boss Battle 1
Battle 4
Battle 5
Battle 6
Bonus Stage
Boss Battle 2
Battle 7
Battle 8
Battle 9
Bonus Stage
Boss Battle 3
Final Battle (with character's rival)

Everything would be random except the final battle, maybe it's impossible to do but it's the idea I have in mind right now.

On a side note, even if I said that there wouldn't be alternative costumes I'm trying to make some palettes look like alternative versions of the characters:

(http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2103/alternates.gif)

Red/Blue tunic Link, TP Link, Dissidia Cloud, T-ELOS KOS-MOS, Gold Armor X etc


This is just me, but every time I look at those images of the lifebars I keep looking up top for both of them. The life bars being on the bottom just doesn't feel right.

Your idea of an arcade playthrough is great (Reminds me of SSB), but is that even possible?

I don't know what KOS-MOS's and X's alternate costumes look like, but they look like they're in different costumes for certain palettes. Especially Link's green are the far left, KOS-MOS's purple on the left, and X's gold on the left and blue on the far right. Cloud for some reason just doesn't look different in any of those palettes. It must be the lack of a cape. (And that badge on his chest too I guess) Also, didn't he wear purple in FFVII?

Has the project been going smoothly?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Dr.Chapatín on March 27, 2009, 10:41:07 pm
Quote
Quote
Everything would be random except the final battle, maybe it's impossible to do but it's the idea I have in mind right now.
as far as i know there's no way to have a character fight a set character as his final battle
There isn't any elegant way to make that possible.  Most you can do is code all the bosses as one character and then choose which form to use by checking who's the opponent. :knife:
This idea work in Bosses no hit posture
I make a char using this conceit, see the second battle of this video. The rival transform in another char http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyYnszPe_lg
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: BadChad on March 28, 2009, 12:26:32 am
Im not a big fan of the idea of having the life bars at the bottom of a screen. It just dosent feel right and makes things look awkward from what were use to seeing with fighting games. Im not really worried about them getting in the way...

The palettes look great, and its a simple way to give you the idea of whitch version of the character your using.
Im thinking a palette that makes Link look more like Shadow/Dark Link would be a good idea for an alternate version rather than a simple black outfit. I do like the black palette as well tho...

Your idea for the story sounds like it would work great for CSW. I hope theres a way this can be implemented as it would make story mode run nicely!

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Rote Zaungast on March 28, 2009, 12:33:05 am
needs more zora link!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: KAZECoyote on March 28, 2009, 04:43:05 am
If you ever decide to make a test video with link, you should consider using the TP palette (that is, if you got it done)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Magius on March 28, 2009, 06:15:44 pm
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Everything would be random except the final battle, maybe it's impossible to do but it's the idea I have in mind right now.

One way of doing this for the final battle to have it set (in mugen there is a file called select.def) for the chacters in which you set up characters and what stages they are on along with order so say there are 9 stages okay and you set that final character to order=9 you would fight that character every time other then that there isn't a way to set it easily or that I know of.

By the way that last trailer was good as every one always is. (hope I helped)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Zanryu on March 28, 2009, 07:42:10 pm
I'd say keep the bars where they are, it looks more appealing IMO.

Also, loving the alternate colours. Will you be recolouring the battle intro artworks to match the alternates?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: ShinRaphael on March 29, 2009, 06:45:10 am
I just wanted to talk about what you said on your website. About not being sure wether you should let people be able to take the characters out of the game or not. In mi opinion no beccause well your characters will surelly mostly be the best and adding them to ather mugen screen packs or with enny characters would not look as good or as compatible then with your original version not to mention some people that will make it look like they are the creators of the characters but i do have an idea on how you could still give people what they want in some way. You could keep a seccond version of the game to add requested things that people would like to use with the game (characters or stages life bars screen packs what ever..). But of course thats just an idea right off the back i came up with just now. In enny case, mi opinion for not being able to take the characters out of the game stands.



**EDIT** I just rememberd something. Some people make mugen games that have characters in them that cannot work well wen you take them out of the game and put them in anather Mugen engine. I think you should use this for your game so that if some one does manage to take out the characters, they will not work for them. There was Super Smash Bros Showdown that had characters that did not work wen you took them out and then theres Sonic Battle that also has characters that dosent work wen you put them on anather mugen engine. Here is the link for sonic battle by Cyanide (http://mugenguild.com/cyanide/files/Sonic_Battle_ME.7z). Thease are just exemples to show what i meen.



**NEW POST** For the life bars. Well putting them on the bottom and having them in your face all the time would be verry distracting and ennoying so i just say no thanks to that idea. Anather idea would be to make the life bars transparrent so that you can see true them so that if the player jumps there or makes some kind of full screen super move, the life bars will not hide enny of it and youll be able to see everry thing true the transparrent life bars. Like were it says (TIME), you can see true the blue a bit well imagine you have that for the hole life bars. Transparrent life bars seems like a way better idea to me then putting them straight in your face =/..
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Titiln on March 29, 2009, 07:06:07 am
so many words so little to say
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: ShinRaphael on March 29, 2009, 07:11:10 am
so many words so little to say
I know i can really suck at that (  ;=..= ).. You can translate mi post and ill remove it if you want ( ;@..@ )..
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: vortex35 on March 30, 2009, 11:44:05 pm
lol I think I want a poster for this game that would be awesome;

back on topic I know this may seem a little annoying and such and I definately don't wanna rush you guys but I wanted to know when you think you might release a demo.I ask because I wount be able to get on as much and check as much or at all if it gets really bad because my lack of computer is preventing from doing so. I and when I ask when I mean like a spring or fall or next year release I noticed that when I follow the topic most of the time I'm not logged in.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Therio on March 31, 2009, 05:35:43 pm
Quick question. Is Isaac going to be in there? I remember a discussion about who's gonna be Crono's rival, and Isaac was one of the candidates. Dunno if that discussion's still going on, but... Just checking.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Laxxe23 on March 31, 2009, 05:48:56 pm
as pots said it that would be the only way to have em fight their rival. 
hmmmm
but the get hits would be all wonky (but since its a fullgame thats no problem)
actually there is another way.  have the rival and the character be one in the same
best way i can think of doing this is taking the character at the final battle and having
it be a helper that mimics what ever state the rival helper is in
hmmm making it behave like its own character might be hard though, since youd need to
have it have its own set of common1 coding
hope you follow me on this
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Titiln on March 31, 2009, 06:20:47 pm
probably not worth it
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: PotS on April 02, 2009, 12:11:35 am
The standard having each fighter fight a random boss has its own merit too. I mean it was pretty cool to play through CvS as Ryu and then face Geese for instance, makes it feel more like a dreammatch.
Downside is if you're trying to have a story for each char where they must beat their own rival, dunno if that's the case.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: handbanana on April 02, 2009, 02:58:10 am
Is captain Falcon gonna be in it???
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: KudosForce on April 02, 2009, 06:41:23 pm
The standard having each fighter fight a random boss has its own merit too. I mean it was pretty cool to play through CvS as Ryu and then face Geese for instance, makes it feel more like a dreammatch.
Downside is if you're trying to have a story for each char where they must beat their own rival, dunno if that's the case.

I definitely agree with you, there. What's the point of having your favorite characters in a crossover, if they have to exclusively fight the same bosses as usual? Variety adds spice, after all.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: solspear on April 05, 2009, 08:38:16 pm
absolutely loves the sprites, how did you manage to sheet them?? i tried your style, but it took me about 5 hours O.O

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k95/solspear/KameCSW.png)

(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k95/solspear/YohAsakura.png)

i made more, but these are the best ones
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Gale_Reiki on April 06, 2009, 03:04:07 am
my icon is actually the finished product of my attempt at this spriting style (once again, this is my first sprite), took me a while to complete, but im satisfied with the outcome     ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: solspear on April 08, 2009, 04:40:03 pm
Hey, ahruon,, i was wondering: what program do you use to make those trailer vids??

i tried to use hypercam and windows movie maker for my trailer, but the outcome wasn't good =.='

if any other person has a good way of doing this please tell me =3
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Agent Z on April 08, 2009, 07:31:15 pm
Try a combination of hypercam and windows movie--oh shit, nvm. :S
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on April 08, 2009, 11:00:37 pm
what percentage are you guys at from being done with your demo requirements(roughly)? and is there going to be another trailer anytime soon?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Noctis on April 10, 2009, 05:47:10 am
what percentage are you guys at from being done with your demo requirements(roughly)? and is there going to be another trailer anytime soon?

They just recently made a trailer and 2 fighting videos. You're going to have to wait a lot longer for another trailer. Unless they're not making trailers after a specific time and just making trailers when enough new stuff is made.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Frooley on April 10, 2009, 08:34:06 am
Has Long as i Wait patient for another one i had no complains
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: KudosForce on April 11, 2009, 10:35:19 pm
With the popularity that this topic seems to have, I have to wonder why it didn't get a child board of its own yet...:S
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (Cloud VS Soma)
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on April 12, 2009, 04:35:24 am
what percentage are you guys at from being done with your demo requirements(roughly)? and is there going to be another trailer anytime soon?

They just recently made a trailer and 2 fighting videos. You're going to have to wait a lot longer for another trailer. Unless they're not making trailers after a specific time and just making trailers when enough new stuff is made.

okay, actually what i meant wasnt so much as a trailer but a video of any kind, but you are right weve had quite a few already and they were released close to each other(or maybe not, not really sure), but you have to admit it would be nice cause more videos never hurt but i mean i can wait for whatever comes out

have you thought of a stage for cloud? i was thinking maybe the area of the final battle from FF7
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Gale_Reiki on May 08, 2009, 04:42:50 am
ok . . . am i missing something or has this thing really been as quiet as i'm thinking?  :S
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Frooley on May 08, 2009, 04:55:46 am
ok . . . am i missing something or has this thing really been as quiet as i'm thinking?  :S
It is Quiet I Never Been In this Topic For a Year now No update from ahuron yet Darn it but yeah it is quiet   ???
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: MangeX on May 08, 2009, 07:45:13 am
Quote
the game will be moleboxed to prevent riping

yeah man keep dreaming, all is possible in this world just like your "original" game  ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Titiln on May 08, 2009, 03:12:48 pm
they've gone on long periods without saying anything and then they come back with a bunch of screenshots or a video

don't worry about it
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: BadChad on May 09, 2009, 12:55:35 am
They'll post something when ever they feel its worth while...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Gale_Reiki on May 10, 2009, 01:12:18 am
they've gone on long periods without saying anything and then they come back with a bunch of screenshots or a video

don't worry about it

Yeah, true, but waiting is painful  :wall:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Noctis on May 10, 2009, 01:36:13 am
they've gone on long periods without saying anything and then they come back with a bunch of screenshots or a video

don't worry about it

Yeah, true, but waiting is painful  :wall:

Good things come to those who wait.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Gale_Reiki on May 12, 2009, 01:01:38 am
they've gone on long periods without saying anything and then they come back with a bunch of screenshots or a video

don't worry about it

Yeah, true, but waiting is painful  :wall:

Good things come to those who wait.

also true, in actuality, it's not really the no news but the awkward silence in this place that really got to me lol   ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: paragon_13 on May 31, 2009, 06:11:15 am
people, where i can download CSW? jast, i can't find.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Mugen Man 20X6 on May 31, 2009, 06:18:25 am
people, where i can download CSW? jast, i can't find.
There's a reason why this is in the "project" section. Maybe it's because people are still working on it, and haven't finished. But don't take my word for it. --;
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: paragon_13 on May 31, 2009, 05:55:53 pm
Quote: "Q: Do I need something else to play it?  A: No, just download and play."

jast, i see this on offeciale site... ok, thx Mugen Man 20X6!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Titiln on May 31, 2009, 06:05:09 pm
for real i had a dream this project was cancelled! it was a bad dream!!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Spaz_Atack145 on May 31, 2009, 06:24:01 pm
Is there a demo yet? I'm thinking no, but I'm slightly confused...  ???
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Noctis on June 01, 2009, 12:02:21 am
for real i had a dream this project was cancelled! it was a bad dream!!!

Was I in your dream? :wub:

@Spaz_Atack3252
No, there is not a demo yet.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Clairvoyance on June 02, 2009, 11:20:11 pm
No, there is not a demo yet.

(http://cinplicity.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/darth_vader_nooooooo.gif)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: King of Questions on June 14, 2009, 12:06:24 am
Is this dead? What happened to Ahroun and Orkimides?(ignore this part venting out my feelings) Are they keeping this a secret and then surprise us with a huge update? I love surprises but I don't think I could wait much longer. But I will, cause I'm cool like that. 8)Back on topic,(if there still is one to talk about) Why hasn't anyone posted in this anymore? Did everyone forget about it or something? Or have you giving up on it?





Wow I just reread this post found how much of idiot i am.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Rote Zaungast on June 14, 2009, 02:13:48 am
they will release the beta when everybody get the name of authors right
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Spaz_Atack145 on June 14, 2009, 02:54:24 am
Okie-doke!

A-H-R-U-O-N  &  O-R-K-I-M-I-D-E-S
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: KudosForce on June 14, 2009, 03:39:13 am
No offense, but you people oughta do something to keep yourselves busy while Ahruon and Orkimides are working on the project.

Perfection takes a lot of time and energy. Rome wasn't built in a day, you know. --;
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Titiln on June 14, 2009, 03:47:11 am
Was I in your dream? :wub:
not on that one ;D

as for ahruon and orkimides, ahruon last viewed the forum today, so i guess he's alive and well. maybe they're taking a break, or maybe they're waiting to have more things done and then they'll show us in the form of another great trailer. who knows.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Noctis on June 14, 2009, 04:06:14 am
Was I in your dream? :wub:
not on that one ;D

Ew...

@Ahruon
Is it possible that you and/or Orkimides will sprite & release sheets after the game is complete. (I don't mean for the game.)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: King of Questions on June 14, 2009, 05:49:14 am
they will release the beta when everybody get the name of authors right
Okie-doke!

A-H-R-U-O-N  &  O-R-K-I-M-I-D-E-S


@ Water Dimension / Spaz_Atack145: Oi Big deal, I got mixed up with the o and u; somebody call the cops!
@KudosForce: I've been busy, just thought to check back and see if it was done yet. Don't worry I'll be more patient.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: nerubian_assasin on June 14, 2009, 07:03:59 am
No offense, but you people oughta do something to keep yourselves busy while Ahruon and Orkimides are working on the project.

Perfection takes a lot of time and energy. Rome wasn't built in a day, you know. --;

Why?? Is Rome PERFECT??? :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: ultimatedude on June 14, 2009, 02:21:33 pm
Is it possible that you and/or Orkimides will sprite & release sheets after the game is complete. (I don't mean for the game.)
They wont if i recall correctly, they were trying to find the best ways for the sprites to be unrippable, which is impossible but yeah, i doubt they appreciate people taking their sprites
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: KudosForce on June 14, 2009, 04:10:37 pm
Why?? Is Rome PERFECT??? :D

Well, that depends on your point of view and whether you're talking about the buildings, people and/or the city itself. :tongue2:

I was trying to point out that it takes a lot of time to make something, have it look spiffy and state-of-the-art. While making a game within a year sounds like a simple process, it takes a lot of effort and manpower to finish it for a deadline.

However, Ahruon and Orkimides have all the time in the world to make their ambitious project. It's a labour of love that is looking to be much more refined and detailed than the average Mugen project. Since all the sprites, backgrounds and special effects are made entirely from scratch, it clearly shows. None of the backgrounds are recycled (yes, even the one for Chun-Li's stage). They don't do it for money at all. As such, we'll get a product that isn't rushed. It'll be worth the wait.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Noctis on June 14, 2009, 08:39:24 pm
Is it possible that you and/or Orkimides will sprite & release sheets after the game is complete. (I don't mean for the game.)
They wont if i recall correctly, they were trying to find the best ways for the sprites to be unrippable, which is impossible but yeah, i doubt they appreciate people taking their sprites

I didn't mean sprites from the game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: ultimatedude on June 14, 2009, 09:51:04 pm
Is it possible that you and/or Orkimides will sprite & release sheets after the game is complete. (I don't mean for the game.)
They wont if i recall correctly, they were trying to find the best ways for the sprites to be unrippable, which is impossible but yeah, i doubt they appreciate people taking their sprites

I didn't mean sprites from the game.

Oh, yes, my misunderstanding :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: nerubian_assasin on June 18, 2009, 05:54:24 pm
what happened to this game!!! no one is posting progress anymore... this should be the best mugen ever!! aw man!!!!!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Bane84 on June 18, 2009, 06:11:13 pm
what happened to this game!!! no one is posting progress anymore... this should be the best mugen ever!! aw man!!!!!!

Geeze.  Just because nobody has posted here in a while doesn't mean that it's not still being worked on.  Chill out already.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Cybaster on June 18, 2009, 06:11:56 pm
They are working on the game rather than spending their time on the forum answering the stupid questions coming from 80% of the people posting in this topic.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Magius on June 23, 2009, 07:50:04 pm
Well since a new zelda title and golden sun title was announced I decided to make this:
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5391/cswsigw.jpg)

The dark area is intentional so whenever they have their vs. logo or whatever they use I'll put it there.

I know Isaac isn't confirmed so don't go yelling at me about that!

I forget where but I think someone mentioned they ripped Dissidia Final Fantasy voices and I was wondering if I could use them or send me a link to them.

Other then that I think we should discuss crisis card attacks and bosses.

ex: Link should have fierce deity (but I doubt that will happen)
     and a boss for example could be gilgamesh from ffv(mainly because so far Dissidia ruined a chance for him to be in playable form not just a still image) and other bosses that could even be the size of the player like Magus for Chrono but Magus wouldn't be playable, stuff like that.   
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: ultimatedude on June 23, 2009, 08:16:14 pm
So the dark area is for VS...
Why does isaac have a much larger space than Link?

And, a new zelda was confirmed? i thought it was rumours
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Magius on June 23, 2009, 08:41:35 pm
Miyamoto showed this at a press conference: http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=159450

Look at the girl on the poster carefully and you see why Link is not wielding the Master Sword

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Oh and isaac moved him over there...no it's because I screwed up on the overlay I'm going to fix that later today... --;

still no demo  >:D

watch they will show us something when I start playing the eng version of Dissidia: FF
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Jed on June 23, 2009, 08:45:10 pm
LOLz this still going on gee form the looks of it they still working right oh well cya
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on June 23, 2009, 09:27:09 pm
I took a look at your webs site. an i came accoss a ichigo card! an i was wondering if you'r going to make a Ogihci? to go with the ichigo. Or maby a hitsugaya to
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Xardas on July 04, 2009, 08:33:49 pm
Will the game be also released for linux (or, at the very least, will we be able to run it under Wine)?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars
Post by: Noctis on July 05, 2009, 12:34:03 am
I took a look at your webs site. an i came accoss a ichigo card! an i was wondering if you'r going to make a Ogihci? to go with the ichigo. Or maby a hitsugaya to

Those cards are just to show off their artwork. They're not necessarily going to be in the game. In fact, I think they have all the characters they want on the first post.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 05, 2009, 09:37:08 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ePGaDh1iw&fmt=18

Cloud and Link in Link's stage, also showing a glimpse of the new win screen. We've been working in these two for a few months now... KOSMOS and X will be next I guess.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Titiln on July 05, 2009, 09:43:11 pm
it's looking better than ever
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on July 05, 2009, 09:49:50 pm
Whoa that was freaking awesome.

But there's one thing I must know! For your lifebars, in the round animations, you have transparent scrolling sidebars, as well as the ROUND 1 display in the middle. I MUST know how you combined non-transparent text with transparent side animations. Was it coded in the characters (hoping for a no), or did you discover some secret MUGEN code no one knows?

Please get back to me!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 05, 2009, 10:15:42 pm
Whoa that was freaking awesome.

But there's one thing I must know! For your lifebars, in the round animations, you have transparent scrolling sidebars, as well as the ROUND 1 display in the middle. I MUST know how you combined non-transparent text with transparent side animations. Was it coded in the characters (hoping for a no), or did you discover some secret MUGEN code no one knows?

Please get back to me!

The transparent stuff is an animation with its frames allocated in the data/fight.sff file, and the ROUND1 text and background image is a font. Both things are defined in the fight.def, not in the characters code.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: AndyMatronic on July 05, 2009, 10:23:48 pm
That stage is beautiful, I love your sprites.

I remember hearing about this a year ago before I tried Mugen and thought you might've given up on the project but it looks very good :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on July 05, 2009, 10:28:52 pm
wow :o freaking awesome this game gets freaking epic every time they post something, love the way link's stage looks(is it just me or does it look more detailed then others). cant wait to see X in action cause i noticed he has attacks up to at least X4. hopefully once you get a kosmos and x video out maybe we'll see a 2 vs 2 match :D keep bringing the good pain guys ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: c00p on July 05, 2009, 10:45:32 pm
this is impressive, and i'm loving the small details, such as the sound link's bow makes when it's (tensado)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: ultimatedude on July 05, 2009, 10:48:55 pm
Incredible, worth the wait.

This brings back some high hopes :P

You guys sure know how to surprise us xD
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: AerosMugen on July 06, 2009, 03:00:47 am
Orgasmic job, the level of detail is impressive.

Being a big fan of the Zelda series as I am, I officially love you for that stage.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: KudosForce on July 06, 2009, 03:46:55 am
From the looks of things, this game is shaping up nicely. The stage looks pretty good and the Link VS Cloud match was pretty decent.

I'm still amazed by all the detail that you and Orkimides are putting into the project, Ahruon. A top-notch job, really. :2thumbsup:

The bar that shows attack names is a nice touch, too. :gugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Raizo on July 06, 2009, 04:13:33 am
This gets better and better each time it's shown. Keep up the excellent work guys!  :sugoi:

I'd say this is the best Mugen project ever. Of course that is clearly my opinion.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on July 06, 2009, 04:19:38 am
I agree, this is one of the best! mugen "full game" projects. :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Rote Zaungast on July 06, 2009, 04:33:20 am
I loled at the evil chickens, nice stage

and what does navi/elf do?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Cloudius on July 06, 2009, 04:46:33 am
Wow, looking awesome there. They both seem to play nicely too. None of them seem to overpower the other guy.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Noctis on July 06, 2009, 05:38:52 am
Awesome. Cloud and Zelda were just so fun to watch. I loved the Win coding you added. Rank, Time, Points, Hits. The move you use appearing near the bottom is a neat touch as well. I noticed something while I was watching the video. Cloud used Omnislash and it was the same move from Dissidia, but then he uses the Omnislash again and it was the one from FFVII. Is that an error? Because I don't know of Cloud's moves in Dissidia so I don't know if it was messed up or not..

Edit:
Oh yeah. The chickens were amazing. Will Epona be in as well? Like as an intro or a win state?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Mask☆DeMasque on July 06, 2009, 08:40:15 am
Omnislash v5 and Omnislash are 2 different attacks here and in dissidia
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: AndyMatronic on July 06, 2009, 06:28:04 pm
I agree, this is one of the best! mugen "full game" projects. :sugoi:
If not the best, because nearly everything is made from scratch.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: DemiInu on July 06, 2009, 11:09:02 pm
Agreed with teros, best mugen project ever, no doubt
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Magius on July 07, 2009, 02:15:00 am
watched the trailer loved it and I was wondering at the load screen there are cards scrolling at each side and want to know if they are random ones from the website or only those of characters that will appear in the game itself?

 you should use this battle theme for cloud composed by someone known as fairuzons: http://www.This link no longer works, sorry/?d=1VWDRO95

 download and listen

well I was mistaken here you can check if you want: http://www.youtube.com/user/fairuzonss
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Noctis on July 07, 2009, 05:01:06 am
I was to focused on the characters that I forgot about Link's stage. It looks amazing. Sheik in the background was a neat touch.
Is it that forest that leads to the forest temple? I haven't played Ocarina of Time in years, but that broken bridge/ledge is awfully familiar. Also, who made the song? It's got a cool beat.

Edit:
Cool you got the Owl too! :sugoi:

@Mask☆DeMasque
I know they were different attacks. I just couldn't recall what the reddish orange Onmislash was. I only remember it from watching videos of Dissidia on YouTube. Thanks btw.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Mask☆DeMasque on July 07, 2009, 07:09:24 am
I hope with all my heart that they don't lose hope and get bored of this project
That would break my heart =[
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Smash on July 07, 2009, 02:24:47 pm
They already put to much in to it to quit i mean come on this project probably has some of the most views i've ever seen on MUGEN videos

Also it is fun to see your favorite characters in their art style in the Card Gallery
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Cybaster on July 07, 2009, 02:36:49 pm
Awesome vid, thanks for entertaining us and make us wait. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 07, 2009, 03:08:40 pm
I was to focused on the characters that I forgot about Link's stage. It looks amazing. Sheik in the background was a neat touch.
Is it that forest that leads to the forest temple? I haven't played Ocarina of Time in years, but that broken bridge/ledge is awfully familiar. Also, who made the song? It's got a cool beat.

Yes, stage is Sacred Forest Meadow from OOT (more like a personal interpretation of it)and the music is from Super Smash Bros Brawl

I loled at the evil chickens, nice stage

and what does navi/elf do?

Nothing much, just a little detail to mimic OOT's gameplay. The only difference is that she shouts "Watch out" when Link's health is critical.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Duo Solo on July 07, 2009, 04:20:21 pm
Awesome! You guys have made a pretty good full game. Theres so many characters and Im suprised Ryu is not in this.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Rote Zaungast on July 07, 2009, 04:57:27 pm
which ryu
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Duo Solo on July 07, 2009, 06:10:31 pm
I was gonna say SF Ryu but now Im leaning towards Ninja Gaidan Ryu Hayabusa.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Byakko on July 07, 2009, 06:35:50 pm
Not a character that originated in a fighting game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: PotS on July 07, 2009, 06:41:32 pm
Chun-Li already has SF well covered IMO.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Byakko on July 07, 2009, 06:45:15 pm
No, no. Ask Capcom. Ryu = SF1, Chun Li = SF2, Alex = SF3. It's not the same thing !
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: KudosForce on July 07, 2009, 07:11:41 pm
You know, I'm starting to wonder if Travis Touchdown and Madworld's Jack will show up in this game... :innocent:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: ultimatedude on July 07, 2009, 07:18:16 pm
travis plz :P

but yeah, i thought it was long ago that people stopped requesting chars...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: SNT on July 07, 2009, 07:21:50 pm
Seeing as people are still posting for characters, if I had one dissatisfaction with what I see it's that I don't see quite enough off the wall sexy ass kicking gunplay witchcraft (http://www.sega.com/platinumgames/bayonetta/) going on here, but that's just my opinion.  Otherwise, this looks stellar.  The move names at the bottom is a nice touch, and that's not even starting on the characters themselves, or the new stage.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: King of Questions on July 07, 2009, 08:03:58 pm
Was that you playing as link or was it another AI battle?
Great vid by the way love the new Link Stage.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Noctis on July 07, 2009, 08:14:12 pm
I was to focused on the characters that I forgot about Link's stage. It looks amazing. Sheik in the background was a neat touch.
Is it that forest that leads to the forest temple? I haven't played Ocarina of Time in years, but that broken bridge/ledge is awfully familiar. Also, who made the song? It's got a cool beat.

Yes, stage is Sacred Forest Meadow from OOT (more like a personal interpretation of it)--

I knew it. It's the entrance to the temple because I remember using the Hook trying to get on the ledge. You and Ork did an awesome job on the stage. Just one thing. Why did you choose the Forest for Link's stage? Why not his hometown or Hyrule Castle?



If you don't mind me asking... Who's stage do you plan on making next?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Duo Solo on July 07, 2009, 08:24:25 pm
The "Link vs Cloud" video was awesome. I take it back. I wish SF Ryu was in this game
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on July 07, 2009, 11:02:44 pm
I was to focused on the characters that I forgot about Link's stage. It looks amazing. Sheik in the background was a neat touch.
Is it that forest that leads to the forest temple? I haven't played Ocarina of Time in years, but that broken bridge/ledge is awfully familiar. Also, who made the song? It's got a cool beat.

Yes, stage is Sacred Forest Meadow from OOT (more like a personal interpretation of it)--

I knew it. It's the entrance to the temple because I remember using the Hook trying to get on the ledge. You and Ork did an awesome job on the stage. Just one thing. Why did you choose the Forest for Link's stage? Why not his hometown or Hyrule Castle?



If you don't mind me asking... Who's stage do you plan on making next?

i did wander about that myself on why he didnt use the other locations. however, i do like the forest look and feel of it even if i havent played OoT
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Byakko on July 07, 2009, 11:47:53 pm
I guess there isn't much interesting to show in the Hyrule Castle - stones and people. The Sacred Meadow is beautiful, and they rendered it particularly well.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Spaz_Atack145 on July 08, 2009, 04:02:38 pm
I have a few questions for Ahruon, like what program do you use to design your sprites and what program do you use for making special effects? I really want to know because I am going to take a shot at making sprites for characters!

Please tell me... Well if you have the time...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Esan on July 08, 2009, 09:40:41 pm
So it's supposed to play like Super Smash Bros? Thats nice. Im interested if it will play on my PSP.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: BadChad on July 09, 2009, 05:19:39 am
i do like the forest look and feel of it even if i havent played OoT

 o_O Thats crazy talk! Thats one hell of a game your missing...

Great video boys! The stage looks beautiful. Love the ranking at the end of the match and the win screens look great!
Link's cuckoo attack is pretty damn cool, I like it. Overall everything is looking polished and comming othether quite nicely!

Keep up the great work. You guys make waiting so difficult! :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: yelocakeffect on July 09, 2009, 05:41:28 am
Oh my! This is looking quite sexy. I assume you will all have secure jobs @ Capcom, SNK, or Bandai when this project is complete.  ;D

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Spaz_Atack145 on July 09, 2009, 01:29:02 pm
I forgot to say, ditto to what all these people said,just totally amazing! o_O

It's like you and Orkimides have a gift for this type of stuff!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Esan on July 09, 2009, 11:13:59 pm
Ahuron is a sprite beast, I just viewed his vid on youtube. But yeah, Im suprised he wasn't going to include Kratos or Ratchet in this game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Titiln on July 10, 2009, 12:42:52 am
i'm not
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Cybaster on July 10, 2009, 02:54:36 pm
Let's continue popping out random names about who should be in the game or not.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: rukifellth on July 10, 2009, 03:15:37 pm
That level was so amazingly well done, they got lots of things that made Ocarina of Time great.

The ambience of the meadow, the owl, sheik, even the time stone. :D (Altough I wish you could blow it up and send it up to the moon)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 10, 2009, 03:58:03 pm
Darn no one notices the Gold Skulltulla  ::) I guess it's hard to see in the video.

Ryu Hayabusa is most likely to appear, he had a silhouette in one of the updates. About next stages, I don't know right now, kinda busy with X and KOSMOS.

Also there's a huuuge complain about how overpowered Cloud is... I can't see why though, maybe because he is more of a multihit type and the concept of his attacks (meteorites, lots of lighting etc) are way more flashy than Link's tools, but other than that he plays about the same, even if he is multihit the damage isn't that high. Also I sucked with Link a bit  ::) Both chars have the same ammount of attacks, (11 normal attacks, 9 special attacks, unique skill, 8 combos and crisis card attack) so not all of them got a chance to appear in the video, for example Link's Megaton Hammer.


Here is some stuff about the video I posted on DA:
Quote
All attacks are originated or derivated from their incarnations from their games, for example Cloud has all his limit breaks, attacks from Kingdom Hearts, part of his Dissidia moveset, attacks seen in Advent Children etc. Somehow Cloud managed to show off a lot of his combos (too bad he didn't use Braver...) but I didn't have much chance to use more of Link's.

The stats screen gives you points considering the bonus you managed to make in combat (first strike, combo chain, counter etc,), also a low time, more health and combo hits make more points. You can make a nice bonus by either don't letting the other player hit you much and killing him fast or making a long combat with lots of bonuses and finishing with a Crisis Card Attack, I guess there can be more methods but I haven't tested it much.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Palette Jesus on July 10, 2009, 04:09:11 pm
Hahaha, I love the chicken idea with Link, nice addition to him.

Sprites looking better than ever and coding looks well done. Good job.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: yelocakeffect on July 10, 2009, 05:14:10 pm
Darn no one notices the Gold Skulltulla  ::) I guess it's hard to see in the video.

Ryu Hayabusa is most likely to appear, he had a silhouette in one of the updates. About next stages, I don't know right now, kinda busy with X and KOSMOS.

Also there's a huuuge complain about how overpowered Cloud is... I can't see why though, maybe because he is more of a multihit type and the concept of his attacks (meteorites, lots of lighting etc) are way more flashy than Link's tools, but other than that he plays about the same, even if he is multihit the damage isn't that high. Also I sucked with Link a bit  ::) Both chars have the same ammount of attacks, (11 normal attacks, 9 special attacks, unique skill, 8 combos and crisis card attack) so not all of them got a chance to appear in the video, for example Link's Megaton Hammer.


Here is some stuff about the video I posted on DA:
Quote
All attacks are originated or derivated from their incarnations from their games, for example Cloud has all his limit breaks, attacks from Kingdom Hearts, part of his Dissidia moveset, attacks seen in Advent Children etc. Somehow Cloud managed to show off a lot of his combos (too bad he didn't use Braver...) but I didn't have much chance to use more of Link's.

The stats screen gives you points considering the bonus you managed to make in combat (first strike, combo chain, counter etc,), also a low time, more health and combo hits make more points. You can make a nice bonus by either don't letting the other player hit you much and killing him fast or making a long combat with lots of bonuses and finishing with a Crisis Card Attack, I guess there can be more methods but I haven't tested it much.

In the video it appeared Cloud’s priority was just a bit too high for a multi-hit character, which can be frustrating, seeing as how most of the time you character spends will be in a combo animation. Though Square Failed to do so on many occasions, all of Clouds attacks should lag, or be slow-to-start-up. He should be like Ike from SSBB IMO.

That’s the only real problem I saw, too much priority, and too much ROCK vs. SCISSORS condition specific situations. Although, this could just be a bad match-up after all, but then that wouldn’t make sense, as Ike and Cloud should be around the same match-up type, as Ike and Link are about equal in win:loss ratio, excluding his projectile advantage.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Speedster on July 10, 2009, 09:26:01 pm
Looks interesting.  :o
Good luck. ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Noctis on July 11, 2009, 01:06:51 am
I can't find the Golden Skulltula. Just like in OoT. WTF IS IT?! :P

Anyways, Cloud didn't look overpowering at all. He was just faster than Link. Cloud was also using way more special attacks than Link.
Also, while I was looking for the Skulltula I noticed that Cloud was disappearing when he was being hit by Djinn's Fire. Or was he just turning blackish red and blending in with the stage?

I hope X and KOSMOS are as cool as Link and Cloud. ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Esan on July 11, 2009, 03:20:16 am
I think I have watched your Link vs. Cloud like 10 times and still wasnt able to find the Skulltula. I like the fact that Ryu Hayabusa will be in this game and congrats to Orkimedies for being the number 1 Youtube channel in Spain. Ryu Hayabusa is gonna kick ass...
(http://2.gvt0.com/vi/63aMm6zbim4/0.jpg)
(http://www.japanator.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/ryu-hayabusa.jpg)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: brokNgloW on July 11, 2009, 05:48:41 am
So... Beautiful  :'(

You guys are doing a terrific job.
I loved the chicken power.
Link has a lot of oldschool moves, fuck I LOVE this project.  ^^v

Gold Skulltulla above the second tree (nice lil' detail  =] )
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Noctis on July 11, 2009, 06:09:13 am
Maybe it's because of YouTube, but I still don't see a Skulltula around any tree. I thought I saw it near the tree on the right side of the stage, but it didn't look like it so I never mentioned it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Byakko on July 11, 2009, 01:40:16 pm
There's a Skulltula right above the dead tree at the center, in the dark area (above the ruined wall), it's a little difficult to see because the screen doesn't go up often, but you can at least see something moving every now and then behind the lifebars. But you can't really tell if it's a regular Skulltula or a Gold Skulltula.

Only thing I can say is that I'm sad Link isn't left-handed as he's supposed to be, but I guess you can't do it otherwise in a sideview 2D fighting game. At least he is in his big portrait.
I do have a question about the Cucco - why is it that only Link can hit it to activate the Cucco Storm ? Would it be too much if the opponent could also hit it ?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Bane84 on July 11, 2009, 04:00:16 pm
There's a Skulltula right above the dead tree at the center, in the dark area (above the ruined wall), it's a little difficult to see because the screen doesn't go up often, but you can at least see something moving every now and then behind the lifebars. But you can't really tell if it's a regular Skulltula or a Gold Skulltula.

Only thing I can say is that I'm sad Link isn't left-handed as he's supposed to be, but I guess you can't do it otherwise in a sideview 2D fighting game. At least he is in his big portrait.
I do have a question about the Cucco - why is it that only Link can hit it to activate the Cucco Storm ? Would it be too much if the opponent could also hit it ?

We had actually discussed this issue before.  You see, the original intent was to make all playable characters able to hit this thing, regardless of which side it was on.  We had these cases:


To keep things simple, we just agreed that only the Link that summoned it would be able to attack it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: BadChad on July 12, 2009, 03:54:31 am
Ryu Hayabusa is most likely to appear, he had a silhouette in one of the updates.

YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! I really needed to hear that! When I seen that silhouette I knew it was Ryu right away, and beeing a Ninja Gaiden fan at a VERY young age of 3 (Im 20 now) this makes me one happy fellah! (Ive always prefered his original blue ninja suit over the tight ass black leather but Ill deal lol)

Had to go back and watch the vid to catch the gold skulltulla. Hes pretty well hidden up there but if you think about it, thats where he belongs anyway. Most of those buggers were well hidden. Very cool addition to the stage!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Continuity on July 12, 2009, 04:42:03 am
this will be the most epic game ever, amazing sprite work, true artists. I'll have to see more footage to get to know how the fighting system works but seeing these famous charactors under one roof is awesome enough IMO
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Noctis on July 12, 2009, 11:04:40 pm
Ahruon, where exactly are you getting all of your sounds from? I just realized that you have the original sounds (I'm not talking about just voices, but sound effects as well) for most of the characters we've seen. Do you rip the sounds yourself or do you just have amazing sources?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Agent Z on July 13, 2009, 07:59:37 pm
So... Beautiful  :'(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: solspear on July 15, 2009, 07:33:55 pm
Haha, found the skulltula first time i watched ;)


(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k95/solspear/Foundtheskulltula.png)

red arrow points to it, its hard to see, but watch that place in the video, you will see a skulltula crawling there, Haha.

do i get a prize now, ahruon? ;P just joking
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Byakko on July 15, 2009, 07:49:04 pm
Too late ! I already described where it was.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: solspear on July 16, 2009, 12:15:46 am
Ohhh, right T.T

.... but i provided a picture lol, joke joke
ya beat meh
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on July 16, 2009, 01:39:29 am
nice job ahruon only if i could sprite that good. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: KudosForce on July 16, 2009, 03:52:58 am
Say, Ahruon, I was wondering...

Have you and Orkimedes ever considered composing your own music and video game theme remixes for CSW? There are people on Youtube (e.g. MaxieDaMan) that have done wonders with music-making programs like FL Studio.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Xardas on July 17, 2009, 02:30:47 pm
Pure awesomeness  ;D

BTW I know I'm repeating myself, but is it going to be Windows only? (it's really important for me, a Linux user, so please answer me Ahruon).

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on July 19, 2009, 05:27:39 am
hey who thinks this stage should be in the demo ???
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2009, 11:43:36 am
Do you actually expect anyone to say "not me" ?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on July 19, 2009, 06:55:19 pm
no just asking an opioin that's all
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: BadChad on July 20, 2009, 02:45:04 am
no just asking an opioin that's all

What a pointless question...

And most likely it will be in the demo. Link is one of the 4 demo characters, I dont see any reason not to include his stage... 
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Esan on July 21, 2009, 07:41:10 am
I agree with Chad. They've shown the stage in the vid for a reason :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Jinesis on July 21, 2009, 09:07:32 am
This project is so awesome  :sugoi:
The demo version should be near  ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on July 21, 2009, 06:59:35 pm
yeah can't wait at least it will keep me from bordom 8)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Maekron on July 21, 2009, 07:04:45 pm
Wow, that does look increadible.
And I love the idea with the cukoos ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Bnt49 on July 24, 2009, 06:18:40 pm
  Q: Do I need something else to play it?
A: No, just download and play.

From: http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/faq.htm


Where exactly is this said download? Or was this for when it came out?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on July 24, 2009, 11:39:38 pm
he meant when demo/beta is relesed :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Master-o-Darkness on July 26, 2009, 04:10:46 pm
Now this is what I call something epic... can't wait!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on July 28, 2009, 01:22:39 am
not sure if this has been asked or answered but are you guys going to add yourselves in the game? cause your characters look sweet :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Jed on July 28, 2009, 02:02:05 am
if that where true then I would like to add meself on there to as well as Rikrad's chars as well  --; but that ain't gonna happen  ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Noctis on July 30, 2009, 06:36:56 am
Is Link going to have different boots and/or different clothes? (I guess the clothes would be solved witht he palettes) And if so will they be from The Legend of Zelda or Twilight Princess?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Anthem on July 30, 2009, 10:02:35 am
Wow! This is a kickass crossover! Can't wait to see the results.

Also, when I was reading along, I was thinking you were the Ahuron who made that 2002 UM Chris a while back.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: ultimatedude on July 30, 2009, 02:05:39 pm
Is Link going to have different boots and/or different clothes? (I guess the clothes would be solved witht he palettes) And if so will they be from The Legend of Zelda or Twilight Princess?

He seems to be based off SSBB, so i guess TP, but it just looks like a mix of all of them to be honest, which is nice.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: braxtoningrahm on August 06, 2009, 07:58:13 am
Can you give an estimate on when the beta will release??  ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Raizo on August 06, 2009, 08:00:48 pm
Can you give an estimate on when the beta will release??  ;D

No.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: GT on August 06, 2009, 08:39:00 pm
Can you give an estimate on when the beta will release??  ;D

Wtf? Be patient. This isn't McDonalds.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Mili on August 06, 2009, 09:39:24 pm
Nice Projekt. I really want to see, Yugo in Action. :D
This isn't McDonalds.
lol
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: darkninja333 on August 06, 2009, 10:30:22 pm
I remember a year ago. The beta was supposed to be released in a month XD It never happened but i can see so much new amazing stuff so its worth the wait lol.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Baragon on August 06, 2009, 10:31:49 pm
Watching this new video, I can't help but think of this as a "2D Dissiddia."
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Dr.Chapatín on August 09, 2009, 02:05:53 am
Can you give an estimate on when the beta will release??  ;D
before the release of PDC...                        (kidding ;P)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: じゆう on August 09, 2009, 11:50:44 am
Awesome
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: roxas54916 on August 09, 2009, 07:33:01 pm
this game is gonna be lengendary .
sadly roxas from kh 2  not in it
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Game-ZX on August 09, 2009, 09:15:42 pm
I finally saw this Thread,
and after the Video I'm very sure this will be better as this stupid JUMP M.U.G.E.N O.o

I saw many favorites so it doesn't makes me cry that I can't get the Characters one by one.
I bookmarked the Homepage and looking forward to the Demo.

If I could I would play right now xD
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on August 10, 2009, 06:12:32 am
hey witch one are you talking about.and of course the demo is going to be good. :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Game-ZX on August 10, 2009, 07:07:20 pm
There were different JUMP MUGEN... The one I mean is called "Isamu Fighters"...
But back to Topic...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on August 11, 2009, 12:25:41 am
hey does anyone think they may change the characters in the demo.because KOS-MOS since it seems ahruon might remake her entirly
from scrach.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: braxtoningrahm on August 25, 2009, 07:55:18 am
Is this project at a stand still?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: ultimatedude on August 25, 2009, 11:22:36 am
Is this project at a stand still?

Be patient
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: BadChad on August 26, 2009, 05:56:46 am
Is this project at a stand still?

Definetly not. These guys are usually pretty quiet but Im sure their keeping themselves busy getting the demo ready.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: KudosForce on August 27, 2009, 05:31:16 pm
Ahruon and Orkimides, allow me to give you fellows a suggestion, if you don't mind.

Now, using musical themes and remixes from Super Smash Bros. Brawl and the characters' most recent entries in their respective series in stages is fine and all, but how about providing all (if not, most) of the stages with remixes made specifically for Card Sagas Wars instead?

I believe that new remixes used as stage themes would fit CSW's style very well, given how the entirety of the game is made from scratch (except the voices, sound effects and initial Mugen engine, of course ;) ). Not only that, but it would allow CSW's soundtrack to have its own identity.

I know that this sounds like a lot of work for you guys (especially since you have enough of it as it is), but luckily, you don't have to worry about that. There are plenty of remixers on Youtube that you could ask to do remix requests for you. Just ask them in what style you want your remix to be done in and presto! They'll post a Youtube entry with a download link of the remix in question.

Some good ones to start with would be DJ Max-E, Kariu and the members of Ethereal Universe (Xaltus, Razzie and New Spirit).

Here are their Youtube URLs:

DJ Max-E: http://www.youtube.com/user/maxiedaman (http://www.youtube.com/user/maxiedaman)

Kariu: http://www.youtube.com/user/Kariu (http://www.youtube.com/user/Kariu)

Ethereal Productions:
Xaltus: http://www.youtube.com/user/Xaltus (http://www.youtube.com/user/Xaltus)
Razzie: http://www.youtube.com/user/razzie16 (http://www.youtube.com/user/razzie16)
New Spirit: http://www.youtube.com/user/reel9 (http://www.youtube.com/user/reel9)

Keep in mind to give them credit.

So, what do you think of my suggestion?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Gale_Reiki on September 10, 2009, 10:25:43 pm
just breaking the silence a bit here

idc if it's off topic a bit, just someone say something XD
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Duo Solo on September 10, 2009, 10:30:44 pm
just breaking the silence a bit here

idc if it's off topic a bit, just someone say something XD
Your right... Any updates on how far or anything?... Nope, alright... Um... PINGAS!
...
(crickets)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: MooMaster666 on September 11, 2009, 10:42:54 am
Your right... Any updates on how far or anything?... Nope, alright... Um... PINGAS!
...
(crickets)
Shut Up with that pingas shit.

Look when Ahruon and Orkimides have updates on Card Sagas Wars, They will post it here. So until then, Everyone be patient.  (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d65/coz707/Smileys/thraidenthunder.gif)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Bane84 on September 11, 2009, 03:36:42 pm
Last time I spoke with Ahuron, X was having some balance issues and glitches in the code.  As a projectile-based character with various techinques such as an air-dash and whatnot, the task of balancing is a bit tricky.

You really need to stop bumping this topic.  I wouldn't expect a release for at least another year.  --;
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Magius on September 13, 2009, 06:41:21 pm
What kind of glitches or you don't know

just curious
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: KudosForce on September 16, 2009, 03:26:45 am
So...did anyone read my suggestion? ???
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Gale_Reiki on September 16, 2009, 03:59:10 am
Well I did. I don't know who else did, but I did  :P

It was a good suggestion too, btw.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Swagless on September 16, 2009, 11:33:57 pm
Completely lookin' out for this game.

Love the sprites.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: KudosForce on September 17, 2009, 03:36:01 pm
Well I did. I don't know who else did, but I did  :P

It was a good suggestion too, btw.

Thank you. :beamgoi: I appreciate that.

Now, I'm just hoping that Ahruon & Orkimides have/will read it... :anxious:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Duo Solo on September 18, 2009, 12:48:33 am
Well I did. I don't know who else did, but I did  :P

It was a good suggestion too, btw.

Thank you. :beamgoi: I appreciate that.

Now, I'm just hoping that Ahruon & Orkimides have/will read it... :anxious:
Dude, everybody read it. I was gonna ask a couple of dudes you suggested to help make a theme song for my mugen character.

OT: But yeah, CWS does need its own original music. My only question is if this game were to be released, would it receive the dreaded pink slip?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: KudosForce on September 18, 2009, 02:16:27 am
Dude, everybody read it. I was gonna ask a couple of dudes you suggested to help make a theme song for my mugen character.

OT: But yeah, CWS does need its own original music. My only question is if this game were to be released, would it receive the dreaded pink slip?

Oh, good. I was worried that no one read it, because there wasn't any response.

By the way, it's CSW. Card Wars Sagas doesn't quite have the same ring to it. :joker: Anyway, if the game was released in the name of doing profit...definitely. But it's not being made with that goal in mind, so let's not worry about that scenario.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: poohead on September 18, 2009, 03:29:25 pm
theres alot of remixes at this site, http://www.ocremix.org/
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Magius on September 18, 2009, 07:52:12 pm
seriously maybe this guy can make something for the final fantasy characters: http://www.youtube.com/user/fairuzonss
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: HiTehk on September 19, 2009, 03:46:08 pm
in dedication to this project, i created an animation of me, in card gallery style.

This might be a mugen wip.

http://p-a-u-s-e.deviantart.com/art/Me-card-sagas-style-animated-137506723

ps im not a newbie to the forum, i forgot my old password and the confirmation wouldn't send.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: KudosForce on September 19, 2009, 06:35:22 pm
seriously maybe this guy can make something for the final fantasy characters: http://www.youtube.com/user/fairuzonss

Judging by what I heard, I would have to agree with you on that. Good find! :2thumbsup:

It a good thing that he takes commissions.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: bdynomite on September 29, 2009, 08:36:45 am
What sort of software do you use when you are making the models?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: BaoJJ on September 29, 2009, 03:34:49 pm
Créer un stage de A à Z cela est possible, mais sa prend plus de temps que faire un sprite d'une persos.
Surtout si le stage ce rapproche du style KOF, oui je parle pour moi .
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Byakko on September 29, 2009, 03:40:45 pm
Translation :
"it's possible to create a stage from A to Z, but it takes more time than making one sprite for a character.
Especially if it's a stage like the ones in KoF, yes I'm speaking from experience."
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Duo Solo on September 29, 2009, 09:00:34 pm
Translation :
"it's possible to create a stage from A to Z, but it takes more time than making one sprite for a character.
Especially if it's a stage like the ones in KoF, yes I'm speaking from experience."
Thanks for the translation. BTW, did you use Google translate or are you experienced with the language that was spoken?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Byakko on September 29, 2009, 09:58:13 pm
It's French and I speak French. I also corrected his grammatical mistakes (which would have made his post impossible to Google-translate).
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Dr.Chapatín on September 29, 2009, 10:19:01 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Awesome  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Lord-Zelgoto on September 30, 2009, 04:10:53 am
Translation?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Noctis on October 01, 2009, 12:28:04 am
They're writing about how they are waiting anxiously for this game and something about the stages & jumping. Nothing important.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: goku262002 on October 02, 2009, 07:10:25 am
question. now that theres a new version of mugen, will this project be switching over to it anytime soon? or will the game stay with the old engine?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: jillybeans on October 02, 2009, 09:44:47 am
this seems really cool cant wait till its done
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Byakko on October 02, 2009, 11:25:31 am
question. now that theres a new version of mugen, will this project be switching over to it anytime soon? or will the game stay with the old engine?
It can work with the new version just as well as with the current version (at least that's Elecbyte's objective). The new SFF format isn't mandatory, what it brings isn't necessary, at most there's just the AI level detection that is really new and can make a difference so far.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on October 02, 2009, 11:26:16 am
question. now that theres a new version of mugen, will this project be switching over to it anytime soon? or will the game stay with the old engine?

who knows maybe they might do both versions, however it may be too much of a hassle to do it(not sure on how things work with new mugen) not to mention they will still be making characters after the release of the demo so characters might be more of a priority, but its hard telling, till they come back with some more info ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Bane84 on October 02, 2009, 12:05:23 pm
At this time, I would say that it's a pretty safe bet that we're going to be staying with development for the older version (at least until most of the bugs in the newer versions are ironed out).  As I've stated previously, we're still a long way away from an official release.

I just serve as an advisor whenever issues in the code come up, so don't take my word as final.  It's mostly speculation on my part.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: HiTehk on October 02, 2009, 12:45:59 pm
I honestly wouldnt mind if this game is in the new or old mugen. besides it boots up a bit faster then the new mugen.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on October 02, 2009, 04:05:39 pm
Same here.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Abysswolf on October 02, 2009, 05:27:09 pm
About new mugen, it's just as Bane said. Plus it doesn't work on my computer for some reason... so I can't even think about using it right now.

About original music, we're not caring much about that right now since the tracks used fit well the characters. I guess we would start considering it when most of the game is done, maybe :P

(PD: Also thanks to Pots and Frederika who replied in the help forum about the stage, kinda late but it would be awkward to bump that topic just for that)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Link VS Cloud and new stage )
Post by: Duo Solo on October 02, 2009, 10:59:48 pm
About new mugen, it's just as Bane said. Plus it doesn't work on my computer for some reason... so I can't even think about using it right now.

About original music, we're not caring much about that right now since the tracks used fit well the characters. I guess we would start considering it when most of the game is done, maybe :P

(PD: Also thanks to Pots and Frederika who replied in the help forum about the stage, kinda late but it would be awkward to bump that topic just for that)
So the new Mugen doesn't work for you either huh? Great, I thought I was the only one.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Abysswolf on October 03, 2009, 10:50:06 pm
KOSMOS VS X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j_t0qeAdjQ

Nothing much new about the system since the Link VS Cloud Video, just new combos and such. KOS-MOS remake is mostly complete, took about a whole month to do it, X is pretty much done too.

As said in the comment in the video, this fight lasted really long, they toyed with each other a lot  ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Cloudius on October 03, 2009, 10:58:59 pm
Damn sweet video. KOS-MOS Crisis Card Attack looks awesome.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Baragon on October 03, 2009, 11:01:26 pm
X's stage looks brilliant.

And I love the idea of X's (rocket booster feet things?) increasing the length of the Tatsumaki.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on October 03, 2009, 11:22:45 pm
freaking awsome!! :o just what i expect from you guys.  x and kos-mos look great. so what are all the weapons x can use. some i did notice but some i might not have caught(or he didnt use) and whatever else you guys use for the game(minus the crisis card attack since you said you were keeping secret). love that you even put in a armored rider(not sure what its called specifically) :suttrox: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on October 04, 2009, 12:20:17 am
Ride armor. :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: -Red- on October 04, 2009, 12:25:09 am
that X should be divided into 2 characters, X was never able to use SF moves unless he had all the parts of his armor (and the other items), so I can only think of 2 ways to settle that (If accuracy is wanted that much :P)

X with armor

or just another version of X (EX X? Or a palswap)

men, I'm happy to see cool P.I. effects instead of people just grabbing the effects without modifications...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on October 04, 2009, 01:01:53 am
Ride armor. :P
well actually now that i paid attention to the name of the move its actually the chimera ride armor from x3(i think)
that X should be divided into 2 characters, X was never able to use SF moves unless he had all the parts of his armor (and the other items), so I can only think of 2 ways to settle that (If accuracy is wanted that much :P)

X with armor

or just another version of X (EX X? Or a palswap)

men, I'm happy to see cool P.I. effects instead of people just grabbing the effects without modifications...
or he can change to the armor momentarily for that specific move, but i dont think its that necessary
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Raizo on October 04, 2009, 03:19:03 am
Wow, truly amazing work, fellas! :o

X's combos are sick. I'm sure there is more he can do with his variety of moves.

Keep up the amazing work.  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: henk on October 04, 2009, 03:27:50 am
...I want to beta-test this so badly. ._.
I also want Tekken 6 to have an earlier release, and I don't see that coming anytime soon. :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on October 04, 2009, 03:37:51 am
Sweet! I've been waiting for new information on your project for a while and this video will keep me satisfied... for the moment. I think I've watched the Link vs. Cloud vid about 48 times. ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: tommyg17 on October 04, 2009, 04:41:54 am
Kick ass! Keep up the awesome work, can't wait man, can't wait.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: O Ilusionista on October 04, 2009, 05:32:26 am
hey, good to know this project is still alive and kicking :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Cybaster on October 04, 2009, 01:12:18 pm
As usual, wonderful stuff coming from you, from the sprites, to the anims, the gameplay, the stages, the music, the Crisis Card Attack, etc.

Congrats, and yeah :
...I want to beta-test this so badly. ._.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on October 04, 2009, 05:09:00 pm
On the X stage, there is a car that passes by and temporary blocks the action. Did you add that intenionally? also, this game should have its own custom music. That would be so badass.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: rukifellth on October 04, 2009, 05:41:02 pm
You know, he already said that they "might" do it.

Anyways, I did make two custom cards, don't know if you still update your site, but I hope you'll like them. :)

(http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3285/demillecard.png)

Perhaps Porky could work as a boss character? Who knows?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: BadChad on October 04, 2009, 07:21:42 pm
Great freakin work guys! Love the newly redrawn sprites. They look much better even tho I didnt see anything wrong with the old ones, but hey if you guys want to be perfectionists im all for it! X's stage looks awesome and the remix that you used was great! Good work guys!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: KudosForce on October 04, 2009, 08:40:18 pm
Wow. You know, looking at the stage that the KOS-MOS VS Megaman X fight took place in, it's remarkable when you realize that it's all made from scratch. All that detail.

I can tell that the cars alone took a lot of time and work to draw and animate. The searchlights, and everything else, too (though it's difficult to tell with the robot bees).

I like how the Tatsumaki Senpukyaku was incorporated into X's moveset, along with the Shoryuken, as a nod to the hidden Street Fighter moves that he could get in the SNES Mega Man X games. They complement his fighting style nicely, too.

That said, solid work, Abysswolf and Orkimides. I wish you good luck on your endeavor! :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Byakko on October 04, 2009, 08:58:19 pm
From scratch, the X stage ? I'm not double-checking but it looks a lot like the Irregular Hunter X remake for the PSP, the one that's in 2.5D.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: KudosForce on October 04, 2009, 09:28:03 pm
From scratch, the X stage ? I'm not double-checking but it looks a lot like the Irregular Hunter X remake for the PSP, the one that's in 2.5D.

Well, as far as I can tell, the floor was 3-D in that game. Here, it's 2-D. :inquisitive:

All we need is some confirmation from Abysswolf on whether or not the rest of the stage isn't recycled.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Byakko on October 04, 2009, 10:48:32 pm
Quote
Here, it's 2-D.
3D + screenshot = 2D
But whether it's recycled or not, it fits very well. And if it's really hand-drawn, all the more kudos to them.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: BadChad on October 05, 2009, 12:49:00 am
Im pretty positive its redrawn. This whole project is beeing done from scratch (minus the music so far)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Haver of Sex on October 05, 2009, 02:11:23 am
X is a shoto?  ;P
Nice to see this project hasn't stopped.
Can't wait until this released
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: MDI on October 05, 2009, 02:23:09 am
I agree that the stage and every sprite for this game looks insanely awesome.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on October 05, 2009, 10:27:31 pm
I agree, the stage must have been redrawn from scratch. Look at Links stage, I know that was from scratch!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Byakko on October 05, 2009, 11:04:12 pm
Link's stage being handdrawn doesn't mean this one is... All I'm saying is that it looks a lot like the actual stage in Irregular Hunter X, and it does seem like the actual stage would fit the graphic style of the game at first glance.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on October 06, 2009, 12:42:22 am
Link's stage being handdrawn doesn't mean this one is... All I'm saying is that it looks a lot like the actual stage in Irregular Hunter X, and it does seem like the actual stage would fit the graphic style of the game at first glance.
Yeah, I understand. I wasn't disagreeing with you Byakko, I know your right.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Bane84 on October 06, 2009, 11:57:42 am
Just so the rest of you know, extensive testing still has to be done on Link, Cloud, X, and KOS-MOS to make sure that there are few glitches in the code.

Crono is next in line for development.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on October 06, 2009, 04:10:52 pm
CRONO FUCK YEAH
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on October 06, 2009, 08:38:48 pm
CRONO FUCK YEAH
CRONO?! *Jizz pants in excitement*
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Magius on October 07, 2009, 08:53:53 pm
one question about crono in any of his attacks will magus make an appearance at all?   
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on October 07, 2009, 11:40:39 pm
most likely no >:(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Magius on October 07, 2009, 11:51:34 pm
figured as much...

but here is possible music they could use for crono: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/270925
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Zerok on October 08, 2009, 12:11:52 am
Woot! Lenneth :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on October 08, 2009, 02:59:08 am
figured as much...

but here is possible music they could use for crono: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/270925
I second this, although I think they are using the boss battle tune for Crono.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: braxtoningrahm on October 08, 2009, 08:56:31 am
Love the video, great...EVERYTHING!! Keep up the good work  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Xardas on October 09, 2009, 05:20:14 pm
Great video, good job guys.

BTW, could somebody explain me what are KOS-MOS's and X's unique skill? (no, I really don't know, don't laugh  ;P )
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Darkdeathsythe on October 10, 2009, 06:07:43 am
Great update on the characters they look a lot more refined and polished than their older sprites so now I hope to see an update for the rest of the cast's sprites for this game. One thing though that bothers me a bit about the updated sprites you guys did is Cloud's leg which looks like it's twisting a bit and I honestly like the older clouds leg movement more. Please take my advice into consideration because even though he looks better especially the sword and hair I can't stop noticing that leg looking a bit out of place.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Abysswolf on October 10, 2009, 02:02:28 pm
If X stage was ripped it would look sooo much better >_>

Great video, good job guys.

BTW, could somebody explain me what are KOS-MOS's and X's unique skill? (no, I really don't know, don't laugh  ;P )

X's is Weapon Change, it changes his Neutral Special attack. His equippable weapons are X Buster, Rolling Shield (X1), Spinning Wheel (X2), Twin Slasher (X4) and Spark Web (X4). Also the combo "Charged Shot" changes depending on the equipped weapon

KOS-MOS' is Hilbert Effect, if it's wave touches the opponent his/her alpha and beta bars will be sealed for a while, though while Hilbert Effect is active KOS-MOS' attack power will be halved.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Spaz_Atack145 on October 10, 2009, 03:41:00 pm
I know that this must sound VERY annoying right about now, but...
How many more fixes will you go through until a beta is released? Approximately.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on October 10, 2009, 04:21:00 pm
proabley until they finish cloud,kos-mos,megaman and link. ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on October 10, 2009, 06:32:47 pm
I understand how the fans are feeling. Im getting a bit antsy myself. But patience is key and like all great games, you must wait until all the bugs are ironed out. This is a complete experience itself and you should be patient.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: BadChad on October 11, 2009, 07:53:45 pm
figured as much...

but here is possible music they could use for crono: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/270925

That could definetly work. Newgrounds is a great place to look for remixes.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: holy_vink on October 11, 2009, 10:14:00 pm
Whoa! This project has been in the net for years and I just know about it yesterday  o_O  ;P
Anyway, when I noticed about this project, one thing comes in my mind...MY DREAM COMES TRUE!!!
You see, I have the idea of crossing super hero game since...hm...if my memories serve me well...2004. It was because I love to play Super Robot Wars, so I think it will be great to have Super Heroes instead of Super Robot. The gameplay (in my messy brain) is similar to SRW, though, not a fighting game. It has similar feature too that you can upgrade your heroes char (Goku, SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3, etc), change (Kurama change to Youko, etc) combine char (Gogeta, etc), combination attack, etc...just like SRW...strategy game with awesome battle scenes. but then I realized the cost of copyright that will be huge! Oh, well, I just enjoyed my time back then to make some movelist for some crazy numbers of chars...
So when I see trailers of this game, I was in total amazed that some people really did this!
Oh well, please tell Ahruon and Orkimides that they really rocks and I hope they will finish the game asap.
btw, I did even draw lineart for some of my chars...it's not really that good, anyway  ;P and I haven't learn how to paint using Photoshop  ;P

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/1989/superheroeswarsresize.th.jpg) (http://img195.imageshack.us/i/superheroeswarsresize.jpg/)

@Abysswolf
I saw your werewolf transformation at dev art. Simply Amazing!!! You also help Ahruon and Orkimedes in making the sprite?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Spaz_Atack145 on October 12, 2009, 02:48:11 am
umm... AbyssWolf is Ahruon...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: holy_vink on October 12, 2009, 05:14:23 am
umm... AbyssWolf is Ahruon...

OMG, Abysswolf is Ahruon?  :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:  ;P
Hahahah, lol, I didn't know that. Some people in forum said that Abysswolf is helping the programmer in CSW...so I thought he wasn't Ahruon...but I know now...hahahaha... ;D ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on October 12, 2009, 05:53:59 pm
Dont know if this is too early to ask but can we see a video showing off the 2 on 2 matches? You can have KOS MOS and X vs Cloud and Link.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Noctis on October 13, 2009, 05:55:37 am
I'm not a fan of KOS-MOS, Megaman, or their games, but they looked pretty epic. Keep uo the good work. Didn't see any errors or problems with their fighting.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Enscripture on October 13, 2009, 08:47:33 am
I don't know if you need them, but I ripped and uploaded Rockman X's voice from various games already, including Irregular Hunter X, recently.  They are here:

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7bbd3cbdbaa9ce2308f8df73f2072ed68be8449e09cf1e7e82e3a934329c7a5e
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on October 23, 2009, 02:32:23 pm
I wanna see cloud and link team up against kos-mos and samus,,,,badass project dudes
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on October 24, 2009, 03:33:08 am
Man if this were a DS/PSP/PS3/360/Wii game.

I would really pay for this game, no lie..... :)

39.99$ you wold make alot of money$
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on October 24, 2009, 03:38:24 am
I would too, awesome project indeed
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: HiTehk on October 24, 2009, 07:09:45 am
seconded. i hope xna mugen becomes a hit :(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Nero-Jin on October 24, 2009, 06:09:49 pm
I see the Videos, it looks awesome! I Hope a demo coming soon ;)

I hope Siegfried (Soul Calibur III or IV) and Squall (Final Fantasy VIII) will be included^^

PLEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASE!!!!!!^^
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: KudosForce on October 24, 2009, 07:20:19 pm
Man if this were a DS/PSP/PS3/360/Wii game.

I would really pay for this game, no lie..... :)

39.99$ you wold make alot of money$

Do keep in mind that AbyssWolf and Orkimides are not doing this for money (or selling it at all, for that matter).

If they tried to sell CSW in the gaming market...They'd get hunted down, to say the least.  :stop: :behead:

The glorious glory of unofficial PC-only fanmade games/sequels, are the only way to make crossovers like this come true. Which makes being a fan of certain series worthwhile. :sunny:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: artzzjer1s on October 25, 2009, 12:15:50 pm
8D ..... just kick ass
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: goku262002 on October 27, 2009, 05:06:43 am
Man if this were a DS/PSP/PS3/360/Wii game.

I would really pay for this game, no lie..... :)

39.99$ you wold make alot of money$

Do keep in mind that AbyssWolf and Orkimides are not doing this for money (or selling it at all, for that matter).

If they tried to sell CSW in the gaming market...They'd get hunted down, to say the least.  :stop: :behead:

The glorious glory of unofficial PC-only fanmade games/sequels, are the only way to make crossovers like this come true. Which makes being a fan of certain series worthwhile. :sunny:

Yeah you REALLY dont want the cut throat lawyers of every game company coming after the creators. the whole point of mugen is "made by fans for fans".
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Spaz_Atack145 on October 28, 2009, 01:57:10 am
Yeah and do u really want to pay for a game they were going to give to u for free in the first place? If they wanted us to pay, they would have already told us.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Medevenx on November 02, 2009, 12:44:30 pm
How would supers perform during a tag match?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on November 02, 2009, 05:34:23 pm
I agree with this question....good one too
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: jailuis on November 03, 2009, 10:24:07 pm
I love the project since the first day I saw it...its just amazing the way u code, sprite and that stuff...U make Mugen look totally different than most of we know and thats what i love bout the game...BTW i need to ask u something, u said bfore all the sprites were from a sketch, do u use a PenTablet or something like that?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on November 03, 2009, 11:00:20 pm
Good question!

Are you guys using MS Paint, Paint shop pro, or somthing else?

I already know how your making your FX's. ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: DemiInu on November 03, 2009, 11:42:56 pm
I highly doubt its MS paint... my guess would be paintshop pro
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Laxxe23 on November 04, 2009, 12:18:24 am
youd be surprised what people can do with mspaint
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?board=350.0
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: jailuis on November 04, 2009, 01:14:54 am
did u thought about photoshop???? oh! and i read bfore that they used Photoshop and the other was particle illusion....do u know exacly how?? i mean can u post a tutorial and show us how to...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: DemiInu on November 04, 2009, 02:25:35 am
youd be surprised what people can do with mspaint
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?board=350.0
oh, of course there are always those who are extremely advanced and can work wonders with paint... but its still not up to these standards

@ jailus: yes i thought about photoshop too, but paintshop pro seems easier to work with from nothing, considering they made everything from scratch
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: M0sleyV1bez on November 04, 2009, 03:21:34 am
I think Ahruon said they're using Photoshop and Partical Illusion
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: jailuis on November 04, 2009, 03:59:33 am
yeh i forgot to specify bfore....they use thwt two programs to create their efx..i want a tuto if someone hav or know how to use them..BTW Laxxe23 maybe u r right...its easier to start from 0
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on November 04, 2009, 08:50:52 pm
I thirst for an update
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: jailuis on November 06, 2009, 10:24:29 pm
I think they are free to wait until they fell ready for an update...what I want to know how is how to use PS and Particle Illusion in order to create Fxs
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: HiTehk on November 07, 2009, 04:08:45 am
I think they are free to wait until they fell ready for an update...what I want to know how is how to use PS and Particle Illusion in order to create Fxs
I second this, I also feel that other should request.

They were generous enough to give us a tutorial on spriting. An fx tutorial shouldn't hurt.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: qed murkr on November 07, 2009, 03:58:07 pm
I think using supers during a tag match would be the same as regular fighting i guess..
its just that you and your partner will have to be cautious about your energy bar.
:/
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: HiTehk on November 07, 2009, 05:50:46 pm
I think using supers during a tag match would be the same as regular fighting i guess..
its just that you and your partner will have to be cautious about your energy bar.
:/

I think it should be MvC style where they switch in and out
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: KudosForce on November 08, 2009, 03:51:58 am
I think using supers during a tag match would be the same as regular fighting i guess..
its just that you and your partner will have to be cautious about your energy bar.
:/

I think it should be MvC style where they switch in and out

Did anyone ever manage to implement a tag system in Mugen? Because, well, I don't really think it has that feature (as far as I know)...--;
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: -Red- on November 08, 2009, 07:53:50 am
wow, you never saw any tag team system on mugen?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on November 08, 2009, 04:25:29 pm
KudosForce link=topic=93401.msg1006949#msg1006949
I think it should be MvC style where they switch in and out[/quote said:

Did anyone ever manage to implement a tag system in Mugen? Because, well, I don't really think it has that feature (as far as I know)...--;
Yes tag systems have been implemented in Mugen, although I never liked it. Search Youtube, you can find some examples.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Randomish on November 08, 2009, 06:13:36 pm
i like what you did with soma
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on November 09, 2009, 02:51:10 am
this is gonna be epic....
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Therio on November 09, 2009, 08:09:49 pm
I highly doubt its MS paint... my guess would be paintshop pro
Why do people always doubt MS Paint when it's so much easier for spriting than most other programs.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: HiTehk on November 09, 2009, 09:59:24 pm
Spriting on MS Paint easier: yes

Animating on MS Paint easier: No way.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on November 09, 2009, 09:59:56 pm
I highly doubt its MS paint... my guess would be paintshop pro
Why do people always doubt MS Paint when it's so much easier for spriting than most other programs.
This. I agree, if you want a simple sprite maker, us MS Paint. Thats what I did and now I use Photoshop and Illustrator.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on November 09, 2009, 10:23:26 pm
mspaint can work wonders if the one using it is very patient with his sprites....time consuming but fun in the end
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: HiTehk on November 10, 2009, 11:43:24 am
mspaint can work wonders if the one using it is very patient with his sprites....time consuming but fun in the end

I always begin my work on ms paint, because its majorly quicker and efficient.

But animating used to be annoying as you copy and pasted over and over checking for seams in the animation. I use photoshop now. its best if you animate and or sprite on it if you have open gl on it. for the pencil tool is accurate and it displays a clean pixel grid.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on November 10, 2009, 08:56:16 pm
I always begin my work on ms paint, because its majorly quicker and efficient.

But animating used to be annoying as you copy and pasted over and over checking for seams in the animation. I use photoshop now. its best if you animate and or sprite on it if you have open gl on it. for the pencil tool is accurate and it displays a clean pixel grid.
Im more a Illustrator guy. I like drawing sprites, scanning them into the computer, Live Trace them and outline them with the pen tool using a transparent background.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Rote Zaungast on November 11, 2009, 04:12:00 am
this software talk can be taken somewhere else

people expect news about game progress
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: braxtoningrahm on November 11, 2009, 08:09:35 am
I agree. It is really bothersome to get on the computer, Go to this forum, see that there are more posts, and then be disappointed by lame software arguments. I mean if I took the time and effort to stop playing Modern Warfare 2 to check on whether or not there was an update, I would much rather it be something about the game.  >:D :sugoi: --;
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Randomish on November 11, 2009, 10:31:53 pm
you need effort to stop playing modern warfare 2 AND TIME
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on November 12, 2009, 09:23:59 pm
Yeah, I feel the same way. Anyways, I think we should expect some updates soon.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on November 17, 2009, 10:22:56 pm
too true....I just crank up some tunes and draw away with mspaint...then I use the Fighter Factory to make a pallete for the pic...after that I use Nobun's All-Bmp app to convert sprites to PCX...alot to do but it's worth it
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: braxtoningrahm on November 29, 2009, 08:16:37 am
Who voted for Chris Redfield on the character battle thingy? I totally think Snake trumps him by a long shot. (just trying to stir up conversation lol)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on November 29, 2009, 09:19:12 am
Snake is better....but I guess they're both good
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on November 29, 2009, 02:55:51 pm
Goddamn, stop bumping this thread. When they're ready to update, they'll update.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on November 29, 2009, 08:07:09 pm
I also use pivot to test animations....that works too
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on November 30, 2009, 09:36:10 pm
I also use pivot to test animations....that works too
(http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a72/MaximLoki/trollface.png) You must enjoy trolling don't you?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 01, 2009, 03:42:48 am
I'm not trolling....sorry that you made that assumption....I think this project is awesome...and I was giving an idea to be able to test animations without running mugen....and yes Snake was part of this topic as he is a character in this game WIP....no trolling on my part...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: HiTehk on December 01, 2009, 12:12:56 pm
I personally feel like a game this great shouldnt have a vacant thread. Lets talk! :D

I keep hearing that a group of ppl made and online patch for mugen and are letting people who have full games use it. Im pretty sure this may be false but does anyone have any idea if its true and if it gonna have consideration for this game?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Iced on December 01, 2009, 02:26:59 pm
Talking about the project= Good
Talking about random stuff= bleach fans level bad

Dont be bleach fans level bad.Imagine what it feels like to come back to your thread and find it filled with people discussing things tangential to the project, like their favorite animation techniques or their favorite character's games.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Magius on December 01, 2009, 06:52:18 pm
Back to relating to the project itself what boss battles do we expect to see aside from diablo.

Please refrain from naming bosses relating to characters that are not in the game itself name only those opposed to confirmed characters as well as original boss concepts. 
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Abysswolf on December 15, 2009, 04:16:23 am
Posting some progress... about time.
Aside from the Alpha/Beta combos, unique skill, and Crisis Card attack, there's another feature we've been hiding for a while, concerning the green cards and the ABC ranks. (It's actually not that big of a deal but we had our doubts about implementing it in CSW) It's called the Support Card System ~Green Series~
Yes, the name pretty much defines the system, i'll give a small description of how it works until we have an english translation of the full description.

The green cards, or support cards, let you to use the other characters from the Card Gallery to aid you in battle. There are three ranks, A, B and C, being A the strongest ones and harder to get and C the weakest and generic ones. The card bar fills by recieving damage or blocking attacks, when full, you will get a new card or level up the current one, you can't stock more than one of them, but when you use it you can refill the bar to get a new card.
By leveling the card, it will level from C to A ( -->C---->B------->A)
You will get a random card each time, so it's up to you to use it or wait to get a better one.

Every character in CSW can use them but this system is only available in 1 vs 1 fights

Some support characters already done include...
Sparkster (Rocket Knight)
Isaac (Golden Sun)
Prince of Cosmos (Katamari Damacy)
Red Arremer (Ghost 'n Ghouls)
Guybrush (Monkey Island)
Fox (Starfox)
Jon Talbain (Darkstalkers)
Peach (Super Mario Bros)
Alucard (Castlevania)

and many more
Small pics from the update:

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper0.png) (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper1.png)

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper2.png) (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper3.png)

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper4.png) (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper5.png)

Might post something else in the following days.

PD: I apologize if anyone really expected to see Isaac as a playable character and now is dissapointed that he only apeears with the lame Move thing :( I really wanted to make him playable
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Rote Zaungast on December 15, 2009, 04:23:45 am
good to hear chars that didn't make the cut are gonna have appearances
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Bane84 on December 15, 2009, 04:25:16 am
Sorry to hear about Isaac, but... you got Guybrush Threepwood in there?!  o_O
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 15, 2009, 05:59:07 am
you could possibly make him as an expansion on this game later on....
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: YourImagination on December 15, 2009, 06:41:52 am
I'm definitely following this game if it has sparkster in it! This looks so bad-ass!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on December 15, 2009, 10:12:07 am
adding support cards is making it that more freaking awesome!

i was going to ask a ? on whether or not we will be able to see who we get and clearly, we will be able to tell who comes up randomly :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Cybaster on December 15, 2009, 10:25:33 am
Great stuff here. Adds more fan service with gameplay. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Cloudius on December 15, 2009, 10:37:24 am
Nice addition, I wonder what Alucard looks like in this style.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 15, 2009, 11:54:51 am
Nice edits, man.

Saddly, I had the same idea (kind of) to my project.

But keep the good work!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: PotS on December 15, 2009, 12:01:00 pm
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper5.png)
Win.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 15, 2009, 12:02:48 pm
hahahaha, now I could see the Katamari char :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Abysswolf on December 15, 2009, 06:27:08 pm
adding support cards is making it that more freaking awesome!

i was going to ask a ? on whether or not we will be able to see who we get and clearly, we will be able to tell who comes up randomly :)


There's an icon in the health bars which contains the current card, it changes as you level it up
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/interfaz.gif)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: jailuis on December 15, 2009, 06:29:44 pm
finally ur back! lov the card system...and I got a question..do u hav any tuto to create an EFX using particle illusion?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on December 15, 2009, 08:41:10 pm
great wish you good luck on the rest of your progress :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: khaoz77 on December 15, 2009, 09:01:03 pm
wooo, we  love katamari!!
lol, good job and keep up the awesome work, can't wait for the demo
 :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Duo Solo on December 15, 2009, 10:05:13 pm
AWWWW YEAH GIRL, I came as soon as I heard Isaac from Golden Sun is a support character.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Kurizu208 on December 16, 2009, 03:05:54 am
ah now im more stoked for this game!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Dr.Chapatín on December 16, 2009, 03:15:38 am
good to see this project working  8)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 16, 2009, 03:17:26 am
the masses are running in circles screaming...Card Sagas Wars!!!WOOOOOOOO!!!!the anticipation is stifling
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Nero-Jin on December 16, 2009, 03:08:43 pm
I want to see Picture of the Alucard Helper! I hope he is an Level A Helper ;) He's KICKASS!!! I played Castlevania Symphony of the Night yesterday and Now I hear Alucard is in the Game! Okay, as Helper, but it's okay! ALUCARD!!!^^

Oh, one thing... how Alucard looks like? More like SOTN or more like Aeria of sorrow? I hope SOTN!!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: XerxesXXIV on December 16, 2009, 05:18:02 pm
PD: I apologize if anyone really expected to see Isaac as a playable character and now is dissapointed that he only apeears with the lame Move thing :( I really wanted to make him playable


I'm actually a bit more disappointed that Alucard isn't a playable character. The man has a lot of sweet skills. :-\

But hey, make his support move "Soul Steal", and I'll call both you and Ork "daddies" from now on. :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Abysswolf on December 16, 2009, 07:26:36 pm
Sorry, Alucard's move is Hellfire not Soul steal n_n' He is a Rank B helper

finally ur back! lov the card system...and I got a question..do u hav any tuto to create an EFX using particle illusion?

nope,sorry
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: jailuis on December 16, 2009, 09:24:44 pm
now ur back...can u giv us a release date???  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Titiln on December 16, 2009, 09:38:30 pm
it'll be out when it's done!!! ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on December 16, 2009, 11:15:22 pm
did you rank them by the character or by the move that they use or both?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: khaoz77 on December 17, 2009, 12:54:22 am
for the helper,are there gonna be co op helper moves, or anything of the sort?
how many times can u actally use the helpers?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Lord-Zelgoto on December 17, 2009, 12:56:28 am
now ur back...can u giv us a release date???  :sugoi:

I guess thats a no
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Noctis on December 17, 2009, 07:55:10 am
Don't you think the helper portraits are a bit to small? It might be kind of hard to tell who you have in the middle of a fight.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: megaman_zer0 on December 17, 2009, 08:11:14 am
I assume you'll be playing the game at 320x480? ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: Noctis on December 17, 2009, 07:11:12 pm
What if some people were?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: megaman_zer0 on December 17, 2009, 08:07:06 pm
well the only reason i could think why someone would play at that resolution is because they have a small monitor. Small monitors tend to use less pixels though so it wouldn't look too small. I don't think it sould be made any larger because the screen is already cluttered enough as it is.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( KOS-MOS VS Megaman X )
Post by: KudosForce on December 18, 2009, 02:40:38 am
It's nice to see some more progress on CSW, AbyssWolf. :)

That said, the support card concept seems to be good. This seems to add an extra layer to the gameplay, while providing the fans with video game fan service.

That said, it's nice to see Bomberman and the Prince of All Cosmos in there, as well as Sparkster. :sugoi:

Though, seeing Guybrush Threepwood came out of left field for me, I must admit. o_O

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Abysswolf on December 18, 2009, 02:43:01 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZzR_kUW0f0&fmt=18

Little demostrarion of the card system, more strikers and stuff

Don't you think the helper portraits are a bit to small? It might be kind of hard to tell who you have in the middle of a fight.
I guess that the first time a card appears it might be hard for some characters to be recognized but when you use them once or twice it's easy to recognize them, so far the icons are pretty different from each other
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: yoh shaman king fan on December 18, 2009, 03:52:10 am
great
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SNT on December 18, 2009, 04:13:14 am
Sakura (Street Fighter)
Bubble Bobble dude
Sub Zero II (Mortal Kombat)
Either Jon Talbain (Darkstalkers) or Sabrewulf (Killer Instinct)
Squall (Final Fantasy VIII) [size=5pt]Fated Circle would've been better...[/size]
Leo (Warzard)
Prince of All Cosmos (Katamari) (DK Swordfish, Triforce and Majora's Mask (too close together if you want my opinion), Prinny, Mario pipe, Cactuar, Metroid, Screw Attack powerup?, Moogle...)
Red Arremer
Fox McCloud
Guybrush Threepwood
Faalco Lombardi
Princess Peach
Bomberman
Phoenix Wright
King Dedede
The bug girl from Twilight Princess
Boggy Motherfucking B, you legend.
and 72 more.

Approval granted.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: jumbopaulo on December 18, 2009, 06:16:26 am
HOLY GRENADE!
HALELUYA!

i loved it man! i'm so waiting for this!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Luis Alejandro on December 18, 2009, 06:48:35 am
WORMS FTW
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: MDI on December 18, 2009, 06:54:01 am
Oh my God that Worms cameo made my day.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: jumbopaulo on December 18, 2009, 07:24:04 am
Mr. Ahruon!
-what about the Red Cards in the gallery? eill you use them in some way in-game?
-i had another question, but now i forgot :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on December 18, 2009, 09:26:27 am
Haha, that was pretty neat. I'll be looking forward to the other 72 support characters. [size=5pt]I approve of "Fated Circle Squall" idea.[/size]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZzR_kUW0f0&fmt=18

Little demostrarion of the card system, more strikers and stuff

Don't you think the helper portraits are a bit to small? It might be kind of hard to tell who you have in the middle of a fight.
I guess that the first time a card appears it might be hard for some characters to be recognized but when you use them once or twice it's easy to recognize them, so far the icons are pretty different from each other

Okay, cool. I usually memorize things like this in video games anyways, so I won't have any problems. I just thought I'd bring it up.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Peanutz5 on December 18, 2009, 12:09:58 pm
Im loving the Support card idea. Making it so the card you get is random is a great idea as well because it will add alot more variety to the matchs I feel.

I don't know if you have talked about this at all but I was wondering if the final game could have online capabalities? I just think it would be nice to be able to play against lots of different people.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: PotS on December 18, 2009, 12:23:55 pm
I was gonna say random factors are generally bad for fighting games, but the way you handled the cards (with everyone getting a progressively better one) sounds like it'll work well.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 18, 2009, 12:40:52 pm
heheeh, nice, very nice.
Its a quite impressive work
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on December 18, 2009, 02:14:19 pm
I was gonna say random factors are generally bad for fighting games, but the way you handled the cards (with everyone getting a progressively better one) sounds like it'll work well.
As long as he doesn't include random tripping like in Smash Bros Brawl, I think I'll be happy. Besides, I think the card system is pretty advanced and doesn't add much randomness like Mario Party.

My only question is this: Will there be a way to turn off the Cards? Sometimes I like to fight my opponents without anything getting in the way.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: c001357 on December 18, 2009, 02:16:15 pm
I was gonna say random factors are generally bad for fighting games, but the way you handled the cards (with everyone getting a progressively better one) sounds like it'll work well.

super turbo worked out well didnt it? anyway i think the random card system is interesting; it prevents people from always already picking the best assists, which means more diverse matches. (arguably this could apply for playable characters)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Nero-Jin on December 18, 2009, 03:04:59 pm
NOOOO... Squall is only a helper... and C ranked... *cry*... An A Ranked helper with Lionheart Limit Break would be much better... but Blast Zone is better then fated Circle... xD

But it still looks cool, VERY cool! Support Cards are an intersting feature =) But How will it work? Will an Character have fixed Cards or can you choose which cards he can use? Or is there at the beginning of an battle Deck Option, where you can select an Deck?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on December 18, 2009, 03:23:51 pm
they already explained how it works
Quote
The green cards, or support cards, let you to use the other characters from the Card Gallery to aid you in battle. There are three ranks, A, B and C, being A the strongest ones and harder to get and C the weakest and generic ones. The card bar fills by recieving damage or blocking attacks, when full, you will get a new card or level up the current one, you can't stock more than one of them, but when you use it you can refill the bar to get a new card.
By leveling the card, it will level from C to A ( -->C---->B------->A)
You will get a random card each time, so it's up to you to use it or wait to get a better one.

Every character in CSW can use them but this system is only available in 1 vs 1 fights
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 18, 2009, 03:42:54 pm
sounds interesting....I can't wait to play this
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on December 18, 2009, 05:45:30 pm
Man i really think you should make Zack from CCFF7 either a character or a support card! please it would be a great addition to the support cards! :)

If you where to make him a character that be even better because in the game all his special moves are cards.

And he'd also still be a great support card to!

So please consider my opinion! :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magius on December 18, 2009, 05:48:56 pm
Yes Magus from Chrono Trigger is an assist! (at 2:24 at bottom right)

That makes me happy and at least Isaac makes an appearance as a assist (again)

Also love how the support card system works.

Now all we need is a crisis card attack exhibition.  
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on December 18, 2009, 11:51:58 pm
love the video, the supports, and well who are we kidding we all love the whole flipping game. i see how most of them will make an appearance, i believe i even saw Kid from Crono Cross. now my question is, will 1 character from each game(according to the card gallery) make an appearance since you said there will be alot of support characters?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Abysswolf on December 19, 2009, 03:54:38 am
About number of characters of each series... I dunno, most series have only 1 character but others have more.

Mr. Ahruon!
-what about the Red Cards in the gallery? eill you use them in some way in-game?
-i had another question, but now i forgot :P

Maybe, can't say anything right now about the red cards

My only question is this: Will there be a way to turn off the Cards? Sometimes I like to fight my opponents without anything getting in the way.

I saw several people asking about this, but i'm not really sure if it's going to be possible to disable it in 1 vs 1 matches.
I don't really dig the idea of selecting the game modes/styles and such in the pre-round like in some MUGEN characters (I think this is called grooves?), just a personal preference, having a game mode or an option in the options menu to disable them would be the ideal for me but I really don't have any idea on how to do that or even if it's possible. I guess I'll look into this when the system is fully done.

Now that I think about it, i'd like the next video to be a redux of the old video of Crono vs Etna in Etna's stage and showing Crono's Crisis card, it will be long before that though. Right now we're focusing to reach a determined number of green cards before moving to the other characters.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: qed murkr on December 19, 2009, 02:26:28 pm
the support card look pretty nice.  ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Omega on December 19, 2009, 02:48:35 pm
Awesome job you guys! I saw Sakura, Jon Talbain, Leo, Red Arremer and many many more. Great pick for the assistance really. The system fits the style for sure.  :) 
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on December 19, 2009, 03:16:04 pm
Worms ! OMFG Alleluyah !!!!! :P It really seems it will be one of best games for Mugen ever :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: YourImagination on December 20, 2009, 12:14:23 am
WHOA!! Nice tutorial! I couldn't help asking this question but, the song's that was representing the support cards like katamari damacy, is that gonna happen when you summon a green card or was that just for show.

9/10 tells me its just for show.

one more thing... OMG look @ the size of that big katamari ball!!!!(no rainbow...) How long did it take you to sprite THAT?!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 20, 2009, 12:26:10 am
Abysswolf, I just have a question:

is any Shining Force char planned to you game?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on December 20, 2009, 04:11:47 am
I feel like less of a gamer due to the fact that most playable characters in this game I dont even know. I guess CSW is shining light on Western obscurities kind of like how Nintendo did Marth?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: YourImagination on December 20, 2009, 05:13:14 am
I feel like less of a gamer due to the fact that most playable characters in this game I dont even know.
Same here...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 20, 2009, 05:20:04 am
but then it's always good to find out...specially if the game is good
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on December 20, 2009, 07:16:01 am
I feel like less of a gamer due to the fact that most playable characters in this game I dont even know.
Same here...
sorta me too, however, i might not know who some character's name are but i would know where they came from so that helps alittle. which in this case, how great this game is, i would probably get every character that they plan to release, just to see their moves and most in importantly the CRISIS CARD attacks.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Mgbenz on December 20, 2009, 09:29:49 am
I feel like less of a gamer due to the fact that most playable characters in this game I dont even know. I guess CSW is shining light on Western obscurities kind of like how Nintendo did Marth?

Not really, unlike Marth most of these characters were from games released in the West and had been popular when they were around. The ones that are really obscure are Valkyrie, Lion and Reiji (all characters by Namco who's chars. are well known to be quite obscure) and maybe Soma who I myself didn't recognize at first. Nina and Yugo are popular but their games have been on hiatus for a very long time so younger gamers wouldn't know about them. Crono's still widely popular bec. Chrono Trigger is still as popular and beloved to this day. KOS-MOS, Lenneth and Etna are quite known to JRPG gamers. All the rest are too popular, it's impossible not to know who they are.

Try researching the games they are from. Maybe you'll find them quite interesting.

Valkyrie - Valkyrie no Denstesu (The Legend of Valkyrie)
Lion - Tales of Destiny
Reji - Namco x Capcom
Soma - Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Lament of Innocence
Nina - Breath of Fire (the Nina in this game is from BoF2 bec. of the black wings)
Yugo - Bloody Roar
KOS-MOS - Xenosaga
Lenneth - Valkyrie Profile
Etna - Disgaea
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: sonicfactor on December 20, 2009, 06:11:34 pm
I remember when this game hasn't been updated for a while, man i am happy this game is back
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: JYD on December 20, 2009, 10:57:41 pm


 i'm so waiting for this!

Yea Keep Waiting...Another 2 years Maybe --;
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 20, 2009, 11:17:26 pm
Soma is actually not from Lament of Innocence unless it's a hack or something...you probly meant Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow...otherwise he had nothing to do with Lament of Innocence...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 20, 2009, 11:36:06 pm
I feel like less of a gamer due to the fact that most playable characters in this game I dont even know. I guess CSW is shining light on Western obscurities kind of like how Nintendo did Marth?

But that is the cool thing: to bring the forgotten chars back.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 21, 2009, 12:26:46 am
I remember the other day I was playing a few old games of mine and came across Golden Axe and MK2(Sega Genesis)I played for hours...yes mine still works and I keep it because they don't make them anymore
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on December 21, 2009, 03:45:30 am
I remember the other day I was playing a few old games of mine and came across Golden Axe and MK2(Sega Genesis)I played for hours...yes mine still works and I keep it because they don't make them anymore
I just nostalgia so bad the moment you said those two games.

Thanks for the list Santa Detective, I'll be sure to look it up.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on December 21, 2009, 06:28:56 pm
(http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9784/80601183.png) (http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/427/87083837.png)
Cloud + Zack

Heres what i was talking about, its really up to you guys if you wana make him in the game. I mostly just did this for fun.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Nero-Jin on December 21, 2009, 08:18:44 pm
@StormEx: I think it is better if they add Zack. Cloud sucks, And I want Squall... But Hey, Zack is still cool ;) And this Sprite Edit is awesome! I hope they will think about to add him and send Cloud to the moon xD

Hey, Why you Storm don't make an Squall or Zack? The only Squall I have played sucks sooooo damn much! I think an Squall from your Hands will be godlike ;)

But Back to topic: What is about Zero from Mega Man X? I saw him on an Picture of an X Special! Will you only add him to this Attack or make you an complete char or maybe an Support Card?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: i_oVo_i on December 21, 2009, 08:50:32 pm
Just a small question, since Sonic, Mario, and Spyro have been made cards in your website.
Will there be a Crash and/or Jak & Daxter card made anytime soon?

On topic:
I like the support cards things, makes it look a bit like Jump Ultimate Stars but with a nice twist
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on December 21, 2009, 09:11:26 pm
(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/427/87083837.png) (http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/427/87083837.png)
Old VS New!

I hope i'm not pressing about it but damn! Man are you gana make him apart of this Game?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on December 21, 2009, 09:27:59 pm
Listen, StormEX. I know you're excited and you want this character in the game very badly, but I think they've already got most of their roster set. I especially think that that character won't be in because, from what it looks like it, it's just a Cloud edit.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Maekron on December 21, 2009, 09:32:41 pm
They've already got the roster and I they put a whole lot of work into cloud.
Really let them decide.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on December 21, 2009, 09:33:31 pm
I thought as much! but it would still make a great Support card! Wouldn't you agree?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on December 21, 2009, 09:54:07 pm
no
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: henk on December 21, 2009, 09:54:29 pm
no
dammit titiln stop stealing my posts
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on December 21, 2009, 10:37:45 pm
About number of characters of each series... I dunno, most series have only 1 character but others have more.

Mr. Ahruon!
-what about the Red Cards in the gallery? eill you use them in some way in-game?
-i had another question, but now i forgot :P

Maybe, can't say anything right now about the red cards

Let's see... So if the blue cards are probably the characters (in the game, not really the website), and the green cards are the supports, I'm guessing that the red cards have to do with the bonus stages. Maybe they could be the little monsters you fight or something?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Abysswolf on December 21, 2009, 11:47:50 pm
Please don't ask if character XXX from the saga YYY will be in it etc... it would be endless to keep answering those questions over and over

About the red cards I can't say anything until we start working on it.
Zero only appears in X's Crisis card.

I feel like less of a gamer due to the fact that most playable characters in this game I dont even know. I guess CSW is shining light on Western obscurities kind of like how Nintendo did Marth?

Not really, unlike Marth most of these characters were from games released in the West and had been popular when they were around. The ones that are really obscure are Valkyrie, Lion and Reiji (all characters by Namco who's chars. are well known to be quite obscure) and maybe Soma who I myself didn't recognize at first. Nina and Yugo are popular but their games have been on hiatus for a very long time so younger gamers wouldn't know about them. Crono's still widely popular bec. Chrono Trigger is still as popular and beloved to this day. KOS-MOS, Lenneth and Etna are quite known to JRPG gamers. All the rest are too popular, it's impossible not to know who they are.

Try researching the games they are from. Maybe you'll find them quite interesting.

Valkyrie - Valkyrie no Denstesu (The Legend of Valkyrie)
Lion - Tales of Destiny
Reji - Namco x Capcom
Soma - Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow and Lament of Innocence
Nina - Breath of Fire (the Nina in this game is from BoF2 bec. of the black wings)
Yugo - Bloody Roar
KOS-MOS - Xenosaga
Lenneth - Valkyrie Profile
Etna - Disgaea

That's a nice initiative, i was thinking on writing a complete guide of where each character came from and several curiosities when it's over but I guess that's kind of far away right now  ::) Here's a little more complete list of the characters so far:

PLAYABLE CHARACTERS:
Cloud
Link
KOS-MOS
X
Lion
Soma
Chunli
Mai
Etna
Ivy
Lenneth
Valkyrie
Sonic
Reiji
Master Chief    
Samus
Bowser
Donkey Kong
Nina
Crono
Chocobo
Yugo
Final Fantasy 7
The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
Xenosaga Episode 1
Megaman X
Tales of Destiny
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow
Street Fighter
Fatal Fury
Disgaea
Soul Calibur
Valkyrie Profile
Valkyrie no Densetsu
Sonic the Hedgehog
Namco X Capcom
Halo
Metroid
Super Mario Bros
Donkey Kong Country
Breath of Fire 2
Chrono Trigger
Chocobo Fables
Bloody Roar

SUPPORT CHARACTERS (shown in the video):
RANK A
Sparkster
Prince of Cosmos  
Lezard Valeth
RANK B
Red Arremer
Guybrush
Kid
Worm
Jon Talbain
Alucard
Alundra
Falco
RANK C
Sub Zero
Sakura
Bubblun
Ark
Kohak
Squall
Leo
Fox
Isaac
Bomberman

Rocket Knight
Katamary Damacy
Valkyrie Profile

Demon's Crest/Ghost 'n Ghouls
Monkey Island
Chrono Cross
Worms Armaggedon
Darkstalkers
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Alundra
Starfox

Mortal Kombat
Street Fighter
Bubble Bobble
Terranigma
Tales of Hearts
Final Fantasy 8
Warzard
Starfox
Golden Sun
Bomberman
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: jailuis on December 22, 2009, 12:34:00 am
So far I dont know most of the games...but I know the chars will be really good...im waiting to take a closer look to Sonic and Master Chief specially..but I know all others will be cool as hell...BTW why didnt u show nothing of sonic, master chief and samus in the card videos?? I even saw donkey kong (good surprise!) but none of the others mentioned...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on December 22, 2009, 12:40:10 am
alright, a character list with all of the supports. Thanks Abbyslwolf.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on December 22, 2009, 02:48:32 am
About the red cards I can't say anything until we start working on it.

I understand that, I was just theorizing...

Anyway, that's a very impressive list. A total of 41 characters so far, both playable and support...
Is there going to be an equal amount of characters in each rank or are most going to fall under the C rank and less in the A rank?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Mgbenz on December 22, 2009, 02:51:18 am
Wouldn't Arngrim or Lucian make more sense as supports for Lenneth? Lezard wasn't really anywhere near on friendly terms with pretty much anyone.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on December 22, 2009, 02:57:53 am
I don't think these support characters include the ones used for a respective character, but are ones that appear due to the support card system.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: RagingThunder on December 22, 2009, 04:09:49 am
I got to say.
I'm loving the character roster as I know and have played 80% of the playable characters mentioned in the roster.
It pretty much covers all the bases (Final Fantasy, Castlevania!, Nintendo, Classics, Sega, Xbox) it even includes some characters from not so popular JP RPGs like Reiji and Nina, both games which I just discovered and played.
With the addition of the support card system this game is likely to be the biggest series collaboration project made.

Heck, I even thought I saw Beatrice from Umineko. The unexpected surprises keep coming.
Loving the style.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Shunu on December 22, 2009, 08:59:22 am
I just dont understand why this looks so great or why your so good at this lol cant wait!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on December 22, 2009, 10:52:51 am
I just dont understand why this looks so great or why your so good at this lol cant wait!

really? you dont know why?(i know your not serious) cause they make there sprites from scratch, take their time and try to make it look good, and add all the essential touches to make it "pretty." now the other thing im not sure of lol :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Darkdeathsythe on December 22, 2009, 10:39:41 pm
Things are going along very well :). Are you guys also planning on putting dialogue or cut scenes(special intros) for the final game?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: kairu on December 23, 2009, 08:31:38 am
Hello tc, I made an account here just to ask you when this game would be done? Do you have an expected time frame and how far (percent out of 100) are you with the production of this game?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: -Greed- on December 23, 2009, 07:13:57 pm
The release date for Card Saga Wars is 2XXX.

No, not 20XX

2XXX  :cool2:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on December 23, 2009, 09:01:11 pm
3XXX, to be more procise.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Shady on December 23, 2009, 09:54:36 pm
Can we use the BIG characters? like those:


(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/cloudbig.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/kosmosbig.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/xbig.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/linkbig.gif)


Or do we have to play the game with the Chibi characters? like those:


(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/StandCloudEspadaless(5).gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/kosmostand.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/csw_stand/Xstand.gif)(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/linkostandfullao.gif)

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Kamekaze on December 23, 2009, 09:57:47 pm
if you saw the gameplay vids you'd have ur answer
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Shady on December 23, 2009, 10:25:14 pm
oh,my bad,I've never liked chibi characters but this one seems like an exception,very good work :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on December 24, 2009, 12:48:09 am
3XXX, to be more procise.

Actually, once they get more support characters finished, I think they'd be just about ready to release a demo... I'm guessing maybe around early summer of 2010 for the beta, unless there's more they plan to add.
BUT, they might be a little hesitant on releasing it, since they would risk having people steal their sprites or something like that. So they might just wait until maybe a couple of months before the release of the complete game... I'm guessing the game will be out, at the very least, 2015 (but that's kinda pushing it).
At this point in time, it looks like they have about half of their playable character roster ready and have put that on hiatus for the support cast. I assume once they get half of the supports done (over 90, the video says, so at least 45... They're already halfway there) They'll continue working on the playable characters... This doesn't include the possibility of adding other features (like red cards) or other features in general (bonus stages, bosses, etc.).

But really, since they started in 2007 and have gotten, from the looks of it, close to 45-50% in a little more than two years, I'd expect this to come out sometime in 2012.

But that's all just my speculations on the matter...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: KudosForce on December 24, 2009, 03:17:11 am
Having seen some of the support cards in action, I must say that I am impressed. 8) All these special appearances from various video game characters are a treat! :2thumbsup:

I sincerely had a laugh from the "Worms" appearance at the end. :laugh4:

That said, in a fan service game like this, you have to expect characters from every corner of the Gameverse to show up. Heck, their gallery alone has plenty of characters with diverse origins. It even has Ihadurca from Evil Zone/Eretzvaju, of all things! :o

At any rate, good things come to those who wait, so I shall resume waiting for the game's completion. Besides, AbyssWolf and Orkimides are doing this because they enjoy that sort of thing, so you have to appreciate their effort and dedication to their project.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Nero-Jin on December 26, 2009, 03:50:48 pm
SO... I have something ask you...

I know, you have most of your characters, but in the FAQ at the first post you say: "Suggestions are wellcome, but at this point we already decided most of the playable characters."

So... I have an Suggestion ;)

Do you know about "BlazBlue"? This is an new Fighting Game and has some Very Nice Characters... and, more important, most of the coolest Special Attacks I ever saw in a fighting Game: Here you can see all ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll25uyciCyo Specials Part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPwZsJSTdCk Specials Part2

But I don't say "PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE, make this Char!" or something... no... I ask you to make an Helper from one of this Characters ;)

Especially, I think this will be best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z0m2CHQRaw
Nu-13 (v13) and her Special Attack, Blade of Destruction... it looks sooo Damn AWESOME!!! So I thought, maybe you make an secret Helper Card of her ;) The Super Secret "S" Rank helper, the only S Rank Helper!

You let say her all her stuff, and then the blade cut down the enemy! This summon will take a bit time, before she attacks, but then it makes the most Damage of all Helpers!

Or you add her as a secret boss... But I think a helper is much better ;)

But, anyway, it's your decision...^^
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: kairu on December 28, 2009, 04:15:11 am
SO... I have something ask you...

I know, you have most of your characters, but in the FAQ at the first post you say: "Suggestions are wellcome, but at this point we already decided most of the playable characters."

So... I have an Suggestion ;)

Do you know about "BlazBlue"? This is an new Fighting Game and has some Very Nice Characters... and, more important, most of the coolest Special Attacks I ever saw in a fighting Game: Here you can see all ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll25uyciCyo Specials Part1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPwZsJSTdCk Specials Part2

But I don't say "PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE, make this Char!" or something... no... I ask you to make an Helper from one of this Characters ;)

Especially, I think this will be best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z0m2CHQRaw
Nu-13 (v13) and her Special Attack, Blade of Destruction... it looks sooo Damn AWESOME!!! So I thought, maybe you make an secret Helper Card of her ;) The Super Secret "S" Rank helper, the only S Rank Helper!

You let say her all her stuff, and then the blade cut down the enemy! This summon will take a bit time, before she attacks, but then it makes the most Damage of all Helpers!

Or you add her as a secret boss... But I think a helper is much better ;)

But, anyway, it's your decision...^^

Oh just make them delay the games release even longer will ya...

anyway question for anyone who knows, what would this games art/sprite style be called or considered?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: natewifi on December 28, 2009, 07:17:09 am
This thread is full of groupies. You sweet talk, and sugar coat so you can get some kindof information about this project like that is his actually going to work. :P What's with the winking smiley spam like you're trying to sell them something? Or you're so anxious to tell them as if they care about any of your lame requests? Like you might as well beg for an addition into the game, you're just saying it differently.

Just saying, any and all dick riders stop requesting. They're going to make their game how they want it to be, and unless they ask for requests just stfu and be patient. This game looks to flourish with beautiful artwork and creativity, but it's not revolutionary it's just homemade. :/
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: -Red- on December 28, 2009, 08:15:30 am
The only thing that bothers me is the fact that simul mode is not getting replaced by a less broken tag team system or something (For now, I dont know these guy's plans), the rest is pretty much cool.

It's this kind of things that should push the peopl on the mugen scene to do new stuff with better detail and more originality or good content instead of just a mere (and 80% of the time crappy) conversion, it's quite boring to play with a character from a game you probably can already play on it's original game without anything added to it.

If I were a great spriter this would be one of those stuff I would do myself (Cool gameplay with interesting combos + nice sprites + interesting and fresh system + P.I. effects, all that but probably on HIRES but I can't say that sprite style actually fits LOWRES in the first place) but guess what, I suck at it :P.

This thing is so awesome you dont even need to add silly fullgame features like a pause game or color edit or a no roundstate < 2 system and all that crap, it's awesome by itself and even if at the end is still common mugen it's damn awesome (and probably the coding is pretty much fullgame-ish right? I bet this doesnt even start up on a common mugen).

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: HiTehk on December 28, 2009, 08:37:10 am
This thread is full of groupies. You sweet talk, and sugar coat so you can get some kindof information about this project like that is his actually going to work. :P What's with the winking smiley spam like you're trying to sell them something? Or you're so anxious to tell them as if they care about any of your lame requests? Like you might as well beg for an addition into the game, you're just saying it differently.

Just saying, any and all dick riders stop requesting. They're going to make their game how they want it to be, and unless they ask for requests just stfu and be patient. This game looks to flourish with beautiful artwork and creativity, but it's not revolutionary it's just homemade. :/
:-\ what was your purpose. let the creator decide that. your not his voice but only a opinion speaking in his perspective.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on December 28, 2009, 04:50:46 pm
This thread is full of groupies. You sweet talk, and sugar coat so you can get some kindof information about this project like that is his actually going to work. :P What's with the winking smiley spam like you're trying to sell them something? Or you're so anxious to tell them as if they care about any of your lame requests? Like you might as well beg for an addition into the game, you're just saying it differently.

Just saying, any and all dick riders stop requesting. They're going to make their game how they want it to be, and unless they ask for requests just stfu and be patient. This game looks to flourish with beautiful artwork and creativity, but it's not revolutionary it's just homemade. :/
You do have a point, them dick riders are abusing those smiley faces lol. But from their perspective, this is the biggest and most impressive Full Mugen project to hit this forum, so yeah, expect lots of people requesting lots of stuff. As a matter of fact, this happens in EVERY single thread related to mugen. Might as well get used to it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 28, 2009, 07:02:25 pm
natewifi....If I recall correctly which I do...the last person to say something like you just did got banned....be careful what you say here...you can't blame somebody for liking this project,being excited about it...when it's your project I can understand that...but let these guys be excited about this awesome project...do you like when someone's trying to spoil your fun?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Mgbenz on December 28, 2009, 07:04:15 pm
but it's not revolutionary it's just homemade. :/

And yet every revolutionary invention were created right in the inventors' own homes.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on December 29, 2009, 01:39:06 am
Please don't ask if character XXX from the saga YYY will be in it etc... it would be endless to keep answering those questions over and over

Ironic. This topic started with people attacking kids who constantly requested random characters (which people clearly already shouldn't have been doing, as so stated by the creators themselves [see quote above]), while now it has people protecting those same kids... I think all character requests should stop for the time being. Let's talk about other things about the game... Like maybe how the story or music or bonus stages would work out?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 29, 2009, 02:44:18 am
I say just ignore them and move on...don't make a big deal about it...remember we are here to discuss this project and how awesome it is...it takes alot of time and effort especially with all the technical stuff that goes into it...cheers to Abysswolf for thinking of this project...it's genious... :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Shady on January 03, 2010, 03:14:20 pm
Long time since we got any news from you about your latest progress!
is there an estimated release date yet?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on January 03, 2010, 03:34:09 pm
2010-2015
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Shady on January 03, 2010, 05:55:48 pm
Hmm,I wanted something more accurate,but I think I got my answer.
Wishing you the best of luck!
P.S. if you need some help I'm making chibi characters these days ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on January 03, 2010, 08:24:25 pm
2010-2015
Somebodys optimistic  ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on January 04, 2010, 12:18:13 am
Okay, I was looking back at the character roster again, and I like how you guys are trying to get characters from all over the video game universe into this project. You two have many genres covered, role-playing games especially. Now there are three genres that, so far on your list, isn't covered: Rhythm, Sports, and Racing. Please note that these are just ideas on how to incorporate characters from such genres into the game, not character requests.

To cover rhythm games, the best mascot to go with is probably Parappa the Rapper. He can appear as a support card and possibly give a button sequence on the screen (Punch, Kick, Jump; or in the case of this game, Normal Attack, Special Attack, Jump) and if the player does it right in a certain time frame, the player can get some sort of bonus, like health or power, or maybe even Parappa can attack. (This idea could also work with a Dance Dance Revolution support, but I'm not sure if the game has a mascot...)
Another idea for this genre could be having some generic Guitar Hero character blast a guitar and stun the other opponent... eh.

As for sports, well, there aren't many sports games that have original characters.. The only good one I can think of right now is Beat from Jet Set Radio. I've never played the game, but maybe he could push the opponent down as he rushes by... Or he could spray paint something on the ground (like a banana peel or a bomb) and the opponent can trip over it or it explodes or something. Probably a more interesting idea.

Racing games are tough too, since most racing games don't have a character mascot that does anything other than race. I have two ideas for this. First, you can use Captain Falcon from F-Zero. Easy choice, but probably not preferable. As a support, it's best to have him use Falcon Punch rather than simply run over the opponent with a car. Also, there's already too many Nintendo characters hanging around in the game already.
My second idea is using someone from the game Crazy Taxi (I don't remember any of the characters). Just have the taxi fly in from above like it's just landing from an awesome crazy sicknasty jump and crush the opponent or something (with the passenger in the back of the taxi screaming her head off).

I think you've got all the other genres pretty much covered.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: natewifi on January 04, 2010, 02:18:13 am
Alot of people on here diserve to get banned. Especially the ones insulting other people's work, yet that ish doesn't happen for confidential reasons (only the noobs who insult get banned  ::)). Anyway no need to get bent out of shape towards me because some people don't get the memo. This project would be revolutionary maybe during the saturn/snes days. I'm not hating either I think this job looks so overhauled with innovation that I understand why most people want to be apart of it. I know I have no work posted, but at least I know to respect other people's art. Due to from my perspective I hate when people try to direct my art.

@The post above, that Pa Rappa move is an alternate version of Lillith's Gloomy Puppet Show. Nothing wrong with that, that move is fabulous but I'm just saying.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on January 04, 2010, 06:05:48 am
Hm, not exactly.. What I was thinking was that the fight keeps going; not have any characters forced into a minigame at all. That might take the fun out of the fight, and if not, it would just be really hard to code. What I was thinking is that Parappa would tell the player to do a certain combo in a certain amount of time, and if the player did it, then the player would get some sort of bonus... Although I do see what you mean about it being a little similar to Lilith's Gloomy Puppet Show.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on January 04, 2010, 06:30:32 am
First of all...

Quote
Q: Can you put XXXX from the YYYY saga?
A: Suggestions are wellcome, but at this point we already decided most of the playable characters.

Anyone can suggest or request (I don't see the difference), but they're most likely going to get turned down.
And with that said. I'd like to suggest Last Remnant characters. If I had the option to choose who to add it would definitely be Rush (Not sure how he would serve as a char/helper though), but anything Last Remnant in CSW would be epic IMO. It's my favorite RPG next to the Grandia, BoF, and FF series.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on January 04, 2010, 06:51:04 am
First of all...

Quote
Q: Can you put XXXX from the YYYY saga?
A: Suggestions are wellcome, but at this point we already decided most of the playable characters.

Anyone can suggest or request (I don't see the difference), but they're most likely going to get turned down.
And with that said. I'd like to suggest Last Remnant characters. If I had the option to choose who to add it would definitely be Rush (Not sure how he would serve as a char/helper though), but anything Last Remnant in CSW would be epic IMO. It's my favorite RPG next to the Grandia, BoF, and FF series.

Note, that quote says playable characters. Not support. Also, my ideas are not merely character requests, as yours are. My suggestions have good reasons for being in unlike reasons like "I'd like to see him in a game," "He's my favorite character," and "Because he's cool/epic." Another thing, I give ideas to how the characters can be implemented in the game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: squall89 on January 04, 2010, 12:15:16 pm
well i am not that good at english nor am i good at explaning things but seeing all the characters by now i am pretty sure what they are there for most of them are the favoritts from the series like cloud (god i am sick of cloud already make squall lol)anyways my point is look at them all samus fav from that series nina fav from bof series and so on but if there is one char i dont get then it is etna i prefer laharl with his manic laugh and crazy cool moves but ah well atleast they have someone from  disgaea so i think everyone should relax about all the characters tbh most of them are cool as hell you cant say that the char list is bad cuz most of them are awsome (except for cloud sick of him-_-)

Edit: well atleast squall is in the game atleast maybe not as playable char but as a helper better then nothing and that's what i think everyone should think about and there is 1 in that game that everyone likes i mean everyone those who dont shame on you...oh yeah ALUDRA is actually a helper WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT THAT not me lol he is my favoritt none zelda related char from the zelda style gameplay games MAN i am.........GODAMNIT i cant find the word lol atleast i am VERY happy to actually see him in there that was a BIG suprise to me alundra never got as much love i would like that game to have had
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on January 04, 2010, 07:33:15 pm
to Squall89....

When I first joined MFG I wanted someone to make a Richter Belmont character other than the SOTN version, I was told I should make him. if you like squall then ask permission to use his sprites and if you get his/her permission to use the sprites...make the character....it takes alot of time to make these characters....give it a try
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: squall89 on January 04, 2010, 07:46:55 pm
well ofc if i want one char i should make him myself i am not asking anyone to do it for me my point is that you cant excpet other creatores to make the one char you want look at card sagas wars alot of sprities and i mean ALOT but only a handfull get to be playable you cant excpect them to make all the chars each one like take me i would love to see squall as a playable char in the game but they already have there handsfull and most of them are mostliky chars that they like themself the most if i was on the project i would have picked squall rather cloud cuz i favor him over cloud and i am sure either of those two like cloud more then squall and you must not forget the biggest thing it's THERE GAME which makes us well rather powerless to do anyhing about which characters should be in it unless they call a vote like they did with chris or.....i dont remember the other guy but it was someone lol so all i am saying i am happy someone is making a game like this and cloud is not a bad char just alittle tired of him being everywhere and i am happy with the roster
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on January 04, 2010, 07:49:39 pm
still....you can make him if the creator gives you permission..
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on January 04, 2010, 08:16:48 pm
if you like squall then ask permission to use his sprites and if you get his/her permission to use the sprites...make the character

There's no way Ahruon and Orkimides would let someone, especially someone who doesn't seem to have any experience in character creation, to use their sprites. They would not want to see their quality sprites created into a potentially poor character. Plus, they don't want a flood of people asking for them to make them sprites.

And as for squall89, I have no idea what you're making a big deal out of. You say that your point is that "you can't expect other creators to make the one character you want," yet you insist that Squall should be a playable character in the game because he's your fav and Cloud's too popular. First off, unless you're referring to what certain other people were requesting a few pages back, the suggestions I made were for support characters. Second, they're not characters I specifically want to see in the game, but what I feel are needed in order to cover the entire video game universe. I feel that there are probably too many role-playing games and retro platformer games being represented, and not enough video games from other genres, like rhythm games and racing games. I mean, they have covered many other genres (Shooter games: Master Chief from Halo and Fox from Starfox, Puzzle games: Bubblun from Bubble Bobble, etc.), but I just suggested characters from genres not covered yet. I'm not saying I'm not satisfied with the roster.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on January 04, 2010, 08:18:42 pm
well isn't that what the guild is for...when you have awesome creators like P.O.T.S, Cyanide, Cybaster, and the rest he'd learn pretty fast...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on January 04, 2010, 08:24:46 pm
You didn't read what I said...

if you like squall then ask permission to use his sprites and if you get his/her permission to use the sprites...make the character

There's no way Ahruon and Orkimides would let someone, especially someone who doesn't seem to have any experience in character creation, to use their sprites. They would not want to see their quality sprites created into a potentially poor character. Plus, they don't want a flood of people asking for them to make them sprites.

I said nothing about learning or whatnot.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on January 04, 2010, 08:28:48 pm
the way I meant was he can practice till he gets good enough to do it....plus I'm sure someone somewhere has the same sprites too...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: GLB on January 04, 2010, 08:46:59 pm
well ofc if i want one char i should make him myself i am not asking anyone to do it for me my point is that you cant excpet other creatores to make the one char you want look at card sagas wars alot of sprities and i mean ALOT but only a handfull get to be playable you cant excpect them to make all the chars each one like take me i would love to see squall as a playable char in the game but they already have there handsfull and most of them are mostliky chars that they like themself the most if i was on the project i would have picked squall rather cloud cuz i favor him over cloud and i am sure either of those two like cloud more then squall and you must not forget the biggest thing it's THERE GAME which makes us well rather powerless to do anyhing about which characters should be in it unless they call a vote like they did with chris or.....i dont remember the other guy but it was someone lol so all i am saying i am happy someone is making a game like this and cloud is not a bad char just alittle tired of him being everywhere and i am happy with the roster

Maybe I'm wrong but, in the given char list about 3 or 4 pages back squall is on it. If that's the case you should calm down and read the thread before jumping off.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on January 04, 2010, 08:48:54 pm
well ofc if i want one char i should make him myself i am not asking anyone to do it for me my point is that you cant excpet other creatores to make the one char you want look at card sagas wars alot of sprities and i mean ALOT but only a handfull get to be playable you cant excpect them to make all the chars each one like take me i would love to see squall as a playable char in the game but they already have there handsfull and most of them are mostliky chars that they like themself the most if i was on the project i would have picked squall rather cloud cuz i favor him over cloud and i am sure either of those two like cloud more then squall and you must not forget the biggest thing it's THERE GAME which makes us well rather powerless to do anyhing about which characters should be in it unless they call a vote like they did with chris or.....i dont remember the other guy but it was someone lol so all i am saying i am happy someone is making a game like this and cloud is not a bad char just alittle tired of him being everywhere and i am happy with the roster
GREAT
Maybe I'm wrong but, in the given char list about 3 or 4 pages back squall is on it. If that's the case you should calm down and read the thread before jumping off.
he's a support character
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on January 04, 2010, 08:50:17 pm
the way I meant was he can practice till he gets good enough to do it....

Probably...

....plus I'm sure someone somewhere has the same sprites too...

... not.

...

And besides, that's completely off-topic.

Maybe I'm wrong but, in the given char list about 3 or 4 pages back squall is on it. If that's the case you should calm down and read the thread before jumping off.

He was talking about wanting Squall as a playable character, not just a C Support Card.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: GLB on January 04, 2010, 08:54:37 pm


He was talking about wanting Squall as a playable character, not just a C Support Card.

Yeah I know, I just wasn't as clear about it. Thanks for explaing better Seventh and titiln.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on January 04, 2010, 09:02:09 pm
actually it's still on topic...the character has a place in this game so in part is still on topic.....

and quoting this:  ... makes me lol
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on January 04, 2010, 10:18:40 pm
I can't believe I'm actually hopping on this bandwagon but I just got a kwazy idea which will probably get turned down due to the XXX char from YYY series thing but you know what would be madness?


... ... Xenogears chars o_o (Fei, Citan playable, Bart, Elly support x3)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on January 04, 2010, 10:49:47 pm
First of all...

Quote
Q: Can you put XXXX from the YYYY saga?
A: Suggestions are wellcome, but at this point we already decided most of the playable characters.

Anyone can suggest or request (I don't see the difference), but they're most likely going to get turned down.
And with that said. I'd like to suggest Last Remnant characters. If I had the option to choose who to add it would definitely be Rush (Not sure how he would serve as a char/helper though), but anything Last Remnant in CSW would be epic IMO. It's my favorite RPG next to the Grandia, BoF, and FF series.

Note, that quote says playable characters. Not support. Also, my ideas are not merely character requests, as yours are. My suggestions have good reasons for being in unlike reasons like "I'd like to see him in a game," "He's my favorite character," and "Because he's cool/epic." Another thing, I give ideas to how the characters can be implemented in the game.

I suggested it. You may have just misunderstood. What I meant was that it would be pretty cool if they DID decide to put anything from Last Remnant in CSW.
Also, they didn't ask us to tell them what the characters we suggested could do, but if they did I'd have to choose someone specific first, like Cyclops. He could be a Rank B helper (He wasn't that strong in the game, but he wasn't worthless either) and when summoned he could swing his arm across the screen since that's basically all he did. Low/Medium damage, but huge range.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Seventh on January 05, 2010, 03:14:10 am
Can't you guys read? Stop making requests for x character to be in the game.
I can't believe I'm actually hopping on this bandwagon but I just got a kwazy idea which will probably get turned down due to the XXX char from YYY series thing but you know what would be madness?


... ... Xenogears chars o_o (Fei, Citan playable, Bart, Elly support x3)

LOL.

And I guess I did misunderstand, Noctis. I skipped your first sentence in that post. Anyway, the thing with saying what a suggested character would do in the game helps the creators think about if those ideas would strengthen the gameplay or whatnot, giving such requested characters genuine consideration.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars (new trailer, new topic)
Post by: Noctis on January 05, 2010, 05:15:52 am
I guess I did misunderstand, Noctis. I skipped your first sentence in that post. Anyway, the thing with saying what a suggested character would do in the game helps the creators think about if those ideas would strengthen the gameplay or whatnot, giving such requested characters genuine consideration.

I didn't think about it like that. And next time I suggest something I'll make sure it sounds like a suggestion. :P
I think I have another suggestion actually. If this isn't planned to be in game already then what about support type helpers like healing types, magic defense types, or even status effect types instead of just attacking helpers?
Of course some people would want a fighter type helper and might get a supporting type helper instead and get upset. So then the only way to split them up is to make it so you can choose which type of helper you want to use in the beginning of the match, but that selection of things at the start was frowned upon so I guess this is a bad idea. Still worth suggesting since no one else did.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: squall89 on January 05, 2010, 06:26:37 am
i see what you mean but about the squall thing everyone wants there fav char to be in the game ofc it's only natural for people to want there favs to be in the game and that ofc goes for me too with squall and i did not request them to make squall in it cuz they have there hands already full with the roster they have so far so people should not except other character they want in it to come as the roster has already been determind well as i said in my first post i am not THAT good when it comes to explaining things -__-;; so sorry if anyone feel offended in any way of my posts no harm was ment by it


Edit: i am just glad squall is a support if nothing else he is in the game and that is all i wanted and i got that so i am happy and i can live with cloud i suppose i still cant belive i saw alundra in there swinging his chain man i cant wait for this
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on January 05, 2010, 06:37:57 am
well it's all good in the end....who knows...they might decide to make him as a full character later on...I like how hi-def these characters are
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: vamptod on January 05, 2010, 06:34:46 pm
awesome to see progress :D and i will say it again i would pay for this lol
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on January 05, 2010, 11:31:19 pm
lol i didn't know i posted that in the thread hahaha

My idea just came to me though seeing as the Xenogears chars are already really tiny and could be easy to work with but yeah.

People say crazy things out of annoyance/rage. :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seventh on January 06, 2010, 07:33:15 am
Haha, yeah, that post is at the bottom of the first page in this thread.

Anyway, I had another idea for the Support Card System. You know at the bottom of the screen when a player does a special attack or super or something, a little text box appears with the name of the move? What if that could be done with supports? Not really the move used, but the name of the character who appears, so people know who the character is if the support isn't recognized as easily.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Palette Jesus on January 06, 2010, 07:38:20 am
lol i didn't know i posted that in the thread hahaha

My idea just came to me though seeing as the Xenogears chars are already really tiny and could be easy to work with but yeah.

People say crazy things out of annoyance/rage. :P

I'd have 99 orgasms at once, if Citan w/ Sword was in this game.  :ninja:

Okay, wishing over. That's it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Shady on January 06, 2010, 02:09:28 pm
lol i didn't know i posted that in the thread hahaha

My idea just came to me though seeing as the Xenogears chars are already really tiny and could be easy to work with but yeah.

People say crazy things out of annoyance/rage. :P

I'd have 99 orgasms at once, if Citan w/ Sword was in this game.  :ninja:

Okay, wishing over. That's it.

That (http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a195/SnakeLinkSonic/citan_walk.gif)'s the only sprite I found for him,do you have a spritesheet?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: ~*Ishida-Uryuu*~ on January 06, 2010, 10:25:58 pm
Can't find a sheet, no one's tried to rip Xenogears' sprites I don't think. Here's a video of both Fei and Citan's moves though. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL-_0Yo4ZMQ)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Agent Z on January 16, 2010, 09:06:48 pm
So there ARE going to be over 100 characters?

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/343313257_e02f570ce5.jpg)
Greatest. Project. EVER.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: LunchPolice aka Quack on January 17, 2010, 01:52:38 am
Uh... I'm pretty sure no one said that.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Byakko on January 17, 2010, 02:02:21 am
He's counting the supports even thoough they're not playable.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: nidiskt on January 22, 2010, 03:09:18 pm
bowser and mario but still no ganondorf for link. Great game and all though.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magius on January 22, 2010, 10:05:30 pm
Ganondorf will probably be one of the unannounced characters or a boss.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Shady on January 23, 2010, 02:50:30 pm
Come on guys,the update tab is locked,can you give us more updates on the progress?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Agent Z on January 25, 2010, 05:22:16 pm
Come on guys,the update tab is locked,can you give us more updates on the progress?
Can you wait your ass in line?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: O Ilusionista on January 25, 2010, 09:54:46 pm
Something that is totaly nonsense is...people continue to keep asking "hey, when you will release it?"

For God Sake! You will know when they release, stop asking the same question over and over...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on January 25, 2010, 10:35:16 pm
Come on guys,the update tab is locked,can you give us more updates on the progress?
Thats a total noob question. Even I know not to say something like this.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Peanutz5 on February 02, 2010, 06:38:59 am
Its hard to stay excited for a game that only has updates every few months so asking for little updates now and then is a somewhat legitament question. It lets the fans know that theirs still work being done and also lets people get a better estimate of how long its going to be till demos and other media are available. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Byakko on February 02, 2010, 09:16:34 am
Its hard to stay excited
Then don't.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on February 02, 2010, 11:31:19 am
What do you prefer :
- They constantly come on the forum to keep us updated, losing time posting and answering questions. You get the beta in 2 years.
- They keep us posted only when something major has been done, such as a whole character. You get the beta in 6 months.

Choose.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on February 02, 2010, 07:30:06 pm
Cy is right...we can wait for updates....be patient...let them create their game instead of asking for updates and when they have updates we'll know...it's not like the world is gonna end if we don't have an update every 5 minutes
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Peanutz5 on February 02, 2010, 09:25:29 pm
What do you prefer :
- They constantly come on the forum to keep us updated, losing time posting and answering questions. You get the beta in 2 years.
- They keep us posted only when something major has been done, such as a whole character. You get the beta in 6 months.

Choose.

I don't think it would take up a year and a half of their time to say simple information like what they are currently working on. It takes all but 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: xJubeix on February 02, 2010, 09:30:49 pm
Just let em work in peace ¬¬ they will update us when they feel like to or when they have something "worth" to be posted... they don't have to let us know for every line of code( i know im exagerating) Give time to time, they will update us... If project  dies then they will tell us if its alive then just wait for  them  patiently... thats it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: O Ilusionista on February 02, 2010, 09:34:38 pm
What do you prefer :
- They constantly come on the forum to keep us updated, losing time posting and answering questions. You get the beta in 2 years.
- They keep us posted only when something major has been done, such as a whole character. You get the beta in 6 months.

Choose.

I don't think it would take up a year and a half of their time to say simple information like what they are currently working on. It takes all but 5 minutes.

Yeah, but they aren't obligated to. Its their project, they talk what they want, when they want

Remember: they (and every mugen creator) to stuff for mugen FOR FREE and because they want to.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on February 02, 2010, 09:48:57 pm
I don't think it would take up a year and a half of their time to say simple information like what they are currently working on. It takes all but 5 minutes.
looks like youve exposed their lies. if they dont post any updates during the next hour i hope an admin bans them forever
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Chronan on February 02, 2010, 10:20:21 pm
Best Mugen related thing I've seen personally since Serio's CV Fighter and Mugen 1.0.

Awesome job, hope it's finished one day! The sprite work and animation is beautiful. The actual game play looks fast paced and fun too.

Quote
Its hard to stay excited for a game that only has updates every few months so asking for little updates now and then is a somewhat legitament question.
People stayed pretty excited more or less for Duke Nukem Forever(sorry to bring that game up in another game thread) for like a decade with about 1 or two videos within the first couple years of announcement, and a screen shot 6 years later.

From a creator stand point, I feel pretty stupid talking about what I'm doing in WIP threads without showing some sort of visual evidence. Screen shots alone never show the true beauty and flow of a game. And while videos are easy to make, they can just be annoying and time consuming. Plus this team seems to be aiming for quality, so even media updates would require a side step from the actual game development and need some kind of planning in terms of they want to show and what they don't want to show.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on February 02, 2010, 10:51:46 pm
everyone would love to see updates like about every two weeks but like everyone said it would be better to do work and post something when its the right time.
From a creator stand point, I feel pretty stupid talking about what I'm doing in WIP threads without showing some sort of visual evidence. Screen shots alone never show the true beauty and flow of a game. And while videos are easy to make, they can just be annoying and time consuming. Plus this team seems to be aiming for quality, so even media updates would require a side step from the actual game development and need some kind of planning in terms of they want to show and what they don't want to show.
ya your right even though they make a 2 or so minute videos(for random stuff) it takes time to put all the battles in. 1 on 1 battles take longer which sucks up time. hopefully we will see a 2 vs 2 battle but as far as videos go we have 9 of them to watch to sorta kill time. im actually happy they are doing this because so far every time they take forever to post something new they blow us all away such as the latest video with the support system
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Abysswolf on February 11, 2010, 05:20:15 pm
Little bump with a little update, i'm showing some support cards today and its effects (no video sorry)
Hopefully in the next update all the support cards will be done.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_altair.png)
Altair - Assasin's Creed
Assasinate: Altair will hide in the shadows when the camera stops focusing on him, then he will appear behind the opponent and attack him. This attack is unblocackle so you must be cautious if he appears.
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_alex.png)
Alex Rovias - Eternal Darkness
Shield: Alex will summon a shield to protect you (halves damage). As the opponent hits you, the shield will be disappearing gradually.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_duke.png)
Duke Nukem - Duke Nukem
RPG: Duke will shoot 3 missiles to the ground, allways to the same position. Each missile will throw the opponent to the air.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_rei.png)
Rei - Breath of Fire
Double Slice: Rei will make a 2 hit combo, first hit will stop the opponents movement and the second one will throw the opponent to the air.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_kevin.png)
Kevin - Seiken Densetsu (Mana series)
Aura Wave: Aura wave will refill automatically the combo bars for a short while, this means that you can perform alfa and beta combos without waiting while the Aura wave is active.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_lemming.png)
Lemmings- Lemmings
Nuke: Three lemmings will appear in the field and will start walking randomly with a counter in their heads. When the counter reaches 0, they will explode hurting the other player.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_geno0.png)
Geno - Super Mario RPG
Geno Blast:  Geno will throw multiple beams that will fall at random positions, if a beam hits, it will stomp the other player to the ground.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_olaf.png)
Olaf - Lost Vikings
Cover: Olaf will follow you wherever you go, blocking your front. If he gets hit too much, his shield will break.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on February 11, 2010, 05:27:58 pm
I dont know how you do it , you just do. Your just to awesome! :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Nero-Jin on February 11, 2010, 05:39:07 pm
Sweet Baby, can't wait for the next update *and maybe the demo xD*

Duke Nukem FOREVAAAAAAAA xD
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on February 11, 2010, 06:28:25 pm
Oh wow, Olaf? I thought he was only from Spongebob.
About Kevin. How does that aura work? Does it just refill your bars while he's in play? Or while you're actually touching his aura?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Abysswolf on February 11, 2010, 07:53:59 pm
Little bump with a little update, i'm showing some support cards today and its effects (no video sorry)
Hopefully in the next update all the support cards will be done.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_altair.png)
Altair - Assasin's Creed
Assasinate: Altair will hide in the shadows when the camera stops focusing on him, then he will appear behind the opponent and attack him. This attack is unblocackle so you must be cautious if he appears.
(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_alex.png)
Alex Rovias - Eternal Darkness
Shield: Alex will summon a shield to protect you (halves damage). As the opponent hits you, the shield will be disappearing gradually.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_duke.png)
Duke Nukem - Duke Nukem
RPG: Duke will shoot 3 missiles to the ground, allways to the same position. Each missile will throw the opponent to the air.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_rei.png)
Rei - Breath of Fire
Double Slice: Rei will make a 2 hit combo, first hit will stop the opponents movement and the second one will throw the opponent to the air.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_kevin.png)
Kevin - Seiken Densetsu (Mana series)
Aura Wave: Aura wave will refill automatically the combo bars for a short while, this means that you can perform alfa and beta combos without waiting while the Aura wave is active.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_lemming.png)
Lemmings- Lemmings
Nuke: Three lemmings will appear in the field and will start walking randomly with a counter in their heads. When the counter reaches 0, they will explode hurting the other player.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_geno0.png)
Geno - Super Mario RPG
Geno Blast:  Geno will throw multiple beams that will fall at random positions, if a beam hits, it will stomp the other player to the ground.

(http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_olaf.png)
Olaf - Lost Vikings
Cover: Olaf will follow you wherever you go, blocking your front. If he gets hit too much, his shield will break.


Quoting because of new page

Oh wow, Olaf? I thought he was only from Spongebob.
About Kevin. How does that aura work? Does it just refill your bars while he's in play? Or while you're actually touching his aura?

He appears and uses aura wave, then dissappears, but the aura wave is still active following you so the bars will refill automatically until the actual aura dissappears (i should have taken a pic of the aura too)

Should have mentioned, but I guess the support cards are somewhere above 50% done at this point
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Dr.Chapatín on February 11, 2010, 08:04:31 pm
This project really seem great, good work. Continue posting news.

Should have mentioned, but I guess the support cards are somewhere above 50% done at this point
(http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/oo154/MabsKMK/extras/pesogun.gif)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: raddaguy on February 11, 2010, 08:05:34 pm
Heh, Geno Blast. Wonder how much damage it takes off?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on February 11, 2010, 09:28:36 pm
Little bump with a little update, i'm showing some support cards today and its effects (no video sorry)
Hopefully in the next update all the support cards will be done.

http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_altair.png (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_altair.png)
Altair - Assasin's Creed
Assasinate: Altair will hide in the shadows when the camera stops focusing on him, then he will appear behind the opponent and attack him. This attack is unblocackle so you must be cautious if he appears.
http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_alex.png (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_alex.png)
Alex Rovias - Eternal Darkness
Shield: Alex will summon a shield to protect you (halves damage). As the opponent hits you, the shield will be disappearing gradually.

http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_duke.png (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_duke.png)
Duke Nukem - Duke Nukem
RPG: Duke will shoot 3 missiles to the ground, allways to the same position. Each missile will throw the opponent to the air.

http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_rei.png (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_rei.png)
Rei - Breath of Fire
Double Slice: Rei will make a 2 hit combo, first hit will stop the opponents movement and the second one will throw the opponent to the air.

http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_kevin.png (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_kevin.png)
Kevin - Seiken Densetsu (Mana series)
Aura Wave: Aura wave will refill automatically the combo bars for a short while, this means that you can perform alfa and beta combos without waiting while the Aura wave is active.

http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_lemming.png (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_lemming.png)
Lemmings- Lemmings
Nuke: Three lemmings will appear in the field and will start walking randomly with a counter in their heads. When the counter reaches 0, they will explode hurting the other player.

http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_geno0.png (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_geno0.png)
Geno - Super Mario RPG
Geno Blast:  Geno will throw multiple beams that will fall at random positions, if a beam hits, it will stomp the other player to the ground.

http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_olaf.png (http://cardgallery.tales-tra.com/helper/helper_olaf.png)
Olaf - Lost Vikings
Cover: Olaf will follow you wherever you go, blocking your front. If he gets hit too much, his shield will break.


Quoting because of new page

Oh wow, Olaf? I thought he was only from Spongebob.
About Kevin. How does that aura work? Does it just refill your bars while he's in play? Or while you're actually touching his aura?

He appears and uses aura wave, then dissappears, but the aura wave is still active following you so the bars will refill automatically until the actual aura dissappears (i should have taken a pic of the aura too)

Should have mentioned, but I guess the support cards are somewhere above 50% done at this point

Oh, okay. Awesome. I think I just found my favorite support card already. =P

50% is a lot done in this much time. We're all anxious about the support cards so keep up the good work & good luck with the other 50%.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on February 12, 2010, 05:14:28 am
Alright, Altair! Too bad the majority of the support cards I don't even recognize.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: rukifellth on February 12, 2010, 03:57:32 pm
Hahaha, Lemmings and Olaf the Stout. Oh god how I remember thoce games fondly. :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: BadChad on February 28, 2010, 05:04:16 pm
Sweet! Kevin from Secret Of Mana 2 and Duke Nukem! Theres quite a few pretty cool support cards. Keep up the ood stuff guys!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on February 28, 2010, 05:12:39 pm
hell yes @ the duke
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Mewtwo on February 28, 2010, 06:23:34 pm
Keep it up you guys.I'm still rootin for you. :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: megaman_zer0 on February 28, 2010, 10:32:31 pm
Sweet! Kevin from Secret Of Mana 2 and Duke Nukem! Theres quite a few pretty cool support cards. Keep up the ood stuff guys!
just a small gripe saying the game is secret of mana 2 is wrong since it was never released anywhere with that name. the name of the game was seiken densetsu 3
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: F. James Fernandez on March 01, 2010, 02:02:10 am
OMG  :o

I bow down to this project... I am speechless. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on March 01, 2010, 11:55:26 pm
Ultimate Hi Res Badassness....
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Master Yoda on March 02, 2010, 12:40:09 am
great progress!  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on March 02, 2010, 01:06:21 am
Ultimate Hi Res Badassness....
hi-res?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Mewtwo on March 02, 2010, 01:10:43 am
Ultimate Hi Res Badassness....

So when did they announced they were going hi res?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on March 02, 2010, 04:58:45 am
meant that way cuz the sprites are so highly detail versus other chibi sprites...the reason I call it hi res
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: BadChad on March 04, 2010, 04:35:44 am
Sweet! Kevin from Secret Of Mana 2 and Duke Nukem! Theres quite a few pretty cool support cards. Keep up the ood stuff guys!
just a small gripe saying the game is secret of mana 2 is wrong since it was never released anywhere with that name. the name of the game was seiken densetsu 3

Yeah Im aware its original title is seiken densetsu 3 but calling it Secret of Mana 2 isnt exactly incorrect as thats what it would of been called had it actually been released in to North America. And I own a copy of the thranslation on a reproduction cart so thats what Im use to calling it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: KudosForce on March 04, 2010, 01:46:16 pm
:o

Alright, once again, I am impressed with the assist card selections. I mean, Alex Roivas? The Lemmings? Duke Nukem? Olaf the Stout?

I have to say that I'm proud of seeing equal opportunity, for characters from all corners of video game culture. 8) Who will pop out next?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: KnickNFoosa1 on March 07, 2010, 06:12:09 pm
Hey Your project kicks-ASS! Also i have a question...(or more) Okay so do you have any plans to make Yoshi a helper assist person (not a request just a question) because hes part of the Mario games and I think he would look good even just the sprite of him looks good (just asking so dont say im making a request). Also ever played Little Big Planet? Idk just a random question. Also another question I've got a character and I can't sprite for crap could ya help me (u dont hav 2 im just askin)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: BadChad on March 27, 2010, 05:22:14 pm
I can already tell you what your answers will be...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: KnickNFoosa1 on April 10, 2010, 03:30:30 pm
What will they be then?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on April 10, 2010, 07:59:53 pm
They're not taking requests until they release the game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: squall89 on April 11, 2010, 12:51:52 am
i cant belive this is going on still come on people let them be till they are done with the game THEN they can think of taking requests this is a big enough game as it is and you cant except them to take all characters that you like in one game take anime they have decided that anime is out of the question but they can still be assist characters and that is planty stop being so greedy
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Haroold on April 15, 2010, 09:26:37 pm
Woh !
Good game, that's look great.

(I'm sure Kirby will be in the game é_è)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on April 16, 2010, 08:03:28 am
well seeing that one I'm trying  to fill in that need too but I keep saying I can't give a guarantee as in I'm mostly gonna try is one thing but there look like the got it all planed out and they are doing a awesome job at it so i think they should have a warning singe my that says all though we are make a lot of chars we aren't gonna make EVERY in BIG red TEXT :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Dope on April 16, 2010, 08:36:59 am
I'm glad Yugo will be a playable character. I've always wanted to see a good bloody roar character.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on April 16, 2010, 08:40:43 am
well I plan to make yogo in non Chib fotmat but that might be unilt after 2010 by the then world would end  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Dope on April 16, 2010, 08:41:52 am
well I plan to make yogo in non Chib format but that might be until after 2010 by the would end  :sugoi:
I forgot all about that, looking forward to that as well :sugoi:

Seems like it's gonna be quite some time though before either project gets finished.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on April 16, 2010, 09:07:00 am
yeah thanks on topic gee so this thing is still going yet I happy to say it's made more progress then me so far or it has a bigger fan base then me  :-X
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on May 03, 2010, 09:31:43 am
Ahruon, anything new you want to post?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on May 03, 2010, 06:09:30 pm
^
Oh my fucking God!

Let me make it clear to all you fucking noobs who post here:

When they have anything new to show us, they will post it here, otherwise don't ask. This has been said over 9000 fucking times in the thread! If you had read the entire thread, you would have already known that.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on May 03, 2010, 06:35:56 pm
^
Oh my fucking God!

Let me make it clear to all you fucking noobs who post here:

When they have anything new to show us, they will post it here, otherwise don't ask. This has been said over 9000 fucking times in the thread! If you had read the entire thread, you would have already known that.

Calm down. I was half asleep and I was thinking. I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on May 03, 2010, 06:40:09 pm
^
Oh my fucking God!

Let me make it clear to all you fucking noobs who post here:

When they have anything new to show us, they will post it here, otherwise don't ask. This has been said over 9000 fucking times in the thread! If you had read the entire thread, you would have already known that.
Freak outs are not needed, It just becomes spam. :S
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on May 03, 2010, 06:56:15 pm
Not a freak out, its just a warning. Let me tell you, I am just as anxious to hear some news and updates about CSW. Whenever I see that the topic has been updated, I expect to see some news pretaining to the game only to see some post along the lines of "When is the game going to be released?" or "Any updates?"

It aggravates me and makes me want to snap my keyboard in two.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on May 03, 2010, 07:18:51 pm
^
Oh my fucking God!

Let me make it clear to all you fucking noobs who post here:

When they have anything new to show us, they will post it here, otherwise don't ask. This has been said over 9000 fucking times in the thread! If you had read the entire thread, you would have already known that.

LOL this makes rethink that Feedback might be a good thing but if you guys keep asking me if it's done like 9000 time I'd say what he just say to  OMFG it's not done yet it will be done when I say it's done sheeesh  ;D

EDIT On fether note yeah do noobz even bother to read at all or are ya just lazy READ for lof mother fucking crying out load READ  ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on May 03, 2010, 08:04:47 pm
Like I said before. I was very tired, & really bored, so I just jumped on here and asked the question.
That was the very first time I asked if there was anything Ahruon wanted to post.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on May 03, 2010, 10:23:21 pm
I see it's all right dude can't be helped then it seems will be getting post like this anyway :P new people have to ask sometimes funny how people bit joo head off but i see just don't do it again >:D














 just kidding good luck dude  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on May 04, 2010, 01:40:13 am
I see it's all right dude can't be helped then it seems will be getting post like this anyway :P new people have to ask sometimes funny how people bit joo head off but i see just don't do it again >:D














 just kidding good luck dude  :sugoi:

Yeah, I always get the bad end of things (I'm not new btw).











And thanks.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on May 09, 2010, 11:32:58 pm
I noticed that Link is yet to have a Crisis Card Attack. :o
If you are open to suggestions on anything but "Put this character in" I have an idea for what that attack should be.
The initiation of the attack would be Shield Bash and Helm Splitter, both from TP, causing the opponent to fly back.
Link will then fire some of his Sword Lasers, and close in to Triforce Slash the opponent, opponent flys back, and then Link fires off a Light arrow into the opponent (anime cut in when Link fires off the arrow).

Also, if the opponent's life reaches zero during the attack they implode like Wind Wakers version of the Light Arrow, and disappear, If that is possible of course. :sugoi:

This Project is getting More And More AWSOME each year!!
 Keep Up The Hard Work! ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on May 10, 2010, 04:02:40 am
I noticed that Link is yet to have a Crisis Card Attack. :o
If you are open to suggestions on anything but "Put this character in" I have an idea for what that attack should be.
The initiation of the attack would be Shield Bash and Helm Splitter, both from TP, causing the opponent to fly back.
Link will then fire some of his Sword Lasers, and close in to Triforce Slash the opponent, opponent flys back, and then Link fires off a Light arrow into the opponent (anime cut in when Link fires off the arrow).

Also, if the opponent's life reaches zero during the attack they implode like Wind Wakers version of the Light Arrow, and disappear, If that is possible of course. :sugoi:

This Project is getting More And More AWSOME each year!!
 Keep Up The Hard Work! ;D
i believe the four that are in the demo have their crisis card attack already, they have yet to show us the attacks because i believe theyre waiting to release the demo, you know for the surprise factor
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on May 14, 2010, 06:07:04 am
I noticed that Link is yet to have a Crisis Card Attack. :o
If you are open to suggestions on anything but "Put this character in" I have an idea for what that attack should be.
The initiation of the attack would be Shield Bash and Helm Splitter, both from TP, causing the opponent to fly back.
Link will then fire some of his Sword Lasers, and close in to Triforce Slash the opponent, opponent flys back, and then Link fires off a Light arrow into the opponent (anime cut in when Link fires off the arrow).

Also, if the opponent's life reaches zero during the attack they implode like Wind Wakers version of the Light Arrow, and disappear, If that is possible of course. :sugoi:

This Project is getting More And More AWSOME each year!!
 Keep Up The Hard Work! ;D
i believe the four that are in the demo have their crisis card attack already, they have yet to show us the attacks because i believe theyre waiting to release the demo, you know for the surprise factor
That may be true, but thats not what it says on page 1 of the tread, it says that Link still needs the Crisis Card Attack.
They have most nessesary requirements for the Demo right now, half the green cards are ready, and 3 of the chareters have all their attacks and only need tweaking. So all that is needed is Link's Crisis Card Attack, Clouds stage, and Kos-mos's stage.

If I am wrong about this, it is because of the status that is given on Page One is out of date. If it Is Abysswolf, Please Update It! It needs to be updated with a photo of Links stage in the Stages section anyway.

(and if I am wrong, it only means they are closer to compleation 8) )
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: smashmusashi on May 17, 2010, 02:37:29 am
oh yeah has anyone every made musashi from brave fencer musashi into a fighting character ???
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on May 17, 2010, 02:47:34 am
how long did it take to sprite one of these characters...?with the detail man you had to be there for a month spriting one dude...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: smashmusashi on May 17, 2010, 01:29:23 pm
still waiting for update  :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: BadChad on May 19, 2010, 11:55:21 pm
Yeah, were all waiting for an update. But we dont need to remind them as if they've forgotton...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: smashmusashi on May 20, 2010, 12:27:39 am
i know i'm just saying stuff ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on May 20, 2010, 03:03:29 am
They say that they arn't updateing untill they have all the Support Cards done, and that may take awile.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on May 20, 2010, 04:08:24 am
be patient...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: smashmusashi on May 20, 2010, 04:10:21 am
of course  ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Henry Hero on May 20, 2010, 06:15:00 am
Hey guys of Card Sagas Wars.

Game is shaping up really great, is mindblowing the amount of work you guys are putting on this.

I have 2 questions:

1) How do you work on your looping FX on particle illusion?

2) Do you guys want some music re-done? like 8 or 16-bit stuff turned to band or orchestral standards?

this is what I've done with Captain Commando's theme of MvC 1: http://www.This link no longer works, sorry/?d=2GHOVAOR (http://www.This link no longer works, sorry/?d=2GHOVAOR)

and this is Cammy's theme from SF2: http://www.This link no longer works, sorry/?d=WI71WLLB (http://www.This link no longer works, sorry/?d=WI71WLLB)  (it's big, I know, Commando's supposed to be too, but I didn't find the high quality version)

not much orchestra stuff, but Cammy's got the piano there.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on May 24, 2010, 02:45:08 am
Kuddos to the guy who just offerd to help them. Two thumbs up for him.
 
ANYWAYS! Another question! I was wondering, as a part of his moveset, will Lion Magnus have the Indignation spell in Card Sagas Wars?
And if he dosen't, will there be a Support Card that attacks with Indignation (Jade, Genis, Arche, Rita, etc) or the  Indignation Jugment spell? 
(If one of the Support Cards does have this spell, please wait to answer untill you have finished all the support cards)

Thanks!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: rukifellth on May 24, 2010, 03:14:58 pm
Hey SmashMusashi

Do you know what would be cool?

If they made Musashi as he is in the sequel: Samurai Legend Musashi on PS2.

Now that game had a very distinct style on it's own! O__O
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Fox Reeveheart on May 31, 2010, 02:04:56 am
Mr. ahruadon or abyssalwolf or orkimides.

I have been messing with mugen for a LONG time now but quit after life called but I always kept an eye.

I don't know HOW i missed this.  But one reason is I never came back to this forum.  Until a link to your game was in youtube, I was IMMEDIATELY hooked and addicted.  I need my fix, sir.

This is easily my favorite MUGEN project.  It's the best project I have ever seen for MUGEN.

The characters look amazing.  I'm excited to play X and Etna.  It's a shame that many will just become support.  Magus is cool enough to warrant his own character from the chrono series.  Ayla has enough uniqueness to her to make her as a character.  I love how fluid their movements are.

This has been going on for quite a few years it seems.  I hope you make an update soon as it seems your last one was a few months ago.  You have my support in this.  This is the kind of game I would just pray was on my DS or XBOX live arcade.  Wish you had more staff to get this done faster.

Heres to hoping you get a demo out soon, then you'll get reports of tons of bugs you never knew about.  Always seems to happen once the public gets a hold of it.

I will keep watch of your game along with mega man x: corrupted and mega man unlimited.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on June 03, 2010, 03:50:33 am
damn this project is getting more rave and ratings anything i seen on mugen and it hasn't even come out yet XD 715 Replies, 63302 Views, that a shit load more then anything out there right now
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: squall89 on June 03, 2010, 07:09:38 pm
that only shows peoples love for this project and the actual support they are giving for this ^^
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on June 04, 2010, 11:44:43 pm
Hey, concerning Stages and Boss Battles. Will there be more stages than just one per chareter? Like mayby 4 or 5 generic or multi seires stages? (Such as just a generic Collosium and Final Destination from Super Smash Bros)

And will bosses have their own stages? Such as, say, if Inferno from Soul Calibur 2 is a boss, will he get his stage ("Infernos Lair") in Card Sagas Wars? And wouled it be playable in Multiplayer?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on June 06, 2010, 09:47:41 am
I apologize if this was already asked, but I'm not going to search through every single page to see if is was...

Now that Final Fantasy XIII is out, will we be seeing any FFXIII helpers? Their special Abilities they learn, like Army of One (Lightning) and Highwind (Fang) would serve excellently as an attacking type helper.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: smashmusashi on June 23, 2010, 09:34:03 am
Hey SmashMusashi

Do you know what would be cool?

If they made Musashi as he is in the sequel: Samurai Legend Musashi on PS2.

Now that game had a very distinct style on it's own! O__O
are you trying to make me mad something?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on June 28, 2010, 12:03:34 am
Will there be a story mode in Card Sagas Wars? If so how will the gameplay be presented? (Smash Bros Brawl style, Soul Calibure style, ect?)
Will you have cutscenes or an animated opening in this game?
Will you create your own theme music? (Even though Im fine with the music you are using in the trailers.)

Sorry for the amount of questions I have been asking!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 01, 2010, 07:24:59 pm
I'm not sure if I should bump the topic for the little news I have, but people have been asking a lot so...
Apparently the server of Card Gallery is acting weird these days, this morning was working but it seems down again. This is not any kind of sign or anything... :P It will probably fix itself in due time.

Now about the game... this past half year we have been working exclusively on the green cards assists, I guess that might mean for some of you a great delay for something you might not care etc but it was something we needed to finish before moving on with the main game. Though the assists are not finished yet, I can say they are around 90+% done, sprite-wise at least.
As I said before, the very moment we finish them an update will follow showing some of them.

note: By the way, the main reason for the half year gap it's because the total of sprite frames we made for the green cards got around the absurd number of 3000 or something (and another bazillion frames for stupid explods/effects), some of them are much better animated than the main characters... the coding on them is also done but it might need several tweaks.

There will be also some tweaks with the most old character sprites to look a bit better, such as these:
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4206/sdsdd.gif)
It will take a while but it's worth it for us.
There's also a lot of new artwork which we will show in a kinda distant trailer, here's a peek of some of it:

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3820/yjj.png)
actual ones are much bigger of course

Also we made a new pair of gameplay features that will be shown in the next fight preview, just some small extra commands for the characters (we will explain them later).
Actually, I think we are making really nice improvements on the coding, especially the assist cards have taught me a lot of tricks i'm going to use for the characters, and I haven't even bothered Bane too much either heh,


On another subject, I found out some time ago that is ridiculously easy to unpack moleboxed software, so maybe in the end we shouldn't need to care about protecting it or anything... still I would appreciate if people wouldn't rip it.


final words: no i have no idea about a release date fot a playable version, sorry if it sounds harsh but i really have no idea

final words in a serious tone for people that have been posting annoying comments on youtube, and other forums
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty


PD: If I started answering previous questions of the topic this wall of text would become a katamari of text, so i'll do it later too.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on July 01, 2010, 08:27:01 pm
Sprite tweaking definitely looks worth the time.
The tiny portraits (and all the other artwork for that matter) look great. Exactly how long have you and Orkimides been drawing to draw that good? I'm kind of jealous.
Looking forward to the new gameplay features. MUGEN gameplay is always the same, so something new will be a lot more fun.
Now I hate to say this, but there will be some people who will ignore your request and rip sprites from your game. The best thing you can do is ignore it (unless its something you can stop/deal with) because there is never going to be, say a Cloud, that is better than Cloud from CSW. If you know what I mean.

"final words: no i have no idea about a playable version, sorry if it sounds harsh but i really have no idea"
Uh...what does this mean? ::)

Anyways, have fun, Ahruon (and Orkimides), and keep up the good work. This game will always be worth the wait.
I will be going back to my game, now. Fuck you, Animal Parade and your purple bell!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: RagingThunder on July 01, 2010, 09:16:20 pm
Glad to see your alive and well, Abysswolf.

You announced quite an ambitious green card aspect to your game a while back, considering your plan of hundreds of support cards; I'm surprised to see your this far along. Congratulations man. The art and the sprite touch-ups are solid as always, a welcome effort indeed.

Oh, and Abysswolf...
Take as much time as you need, your doing what most of us could only dream to accomplish.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: MDI on July 01, 2010, 10:36:36 pm
People will always leave annoying comments and be insistent, saying things like WHENS A RELEASE COMING OUT ITS TAKING TOO LONGGG  >:D >:D

But you should just ignore that. If this project takes years to make, in the end it'll be worth it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on July 01, 2010, 11:26:01 pm
I'm not sure if I should bump the topic for the little news I have, but people have been asking a lot so...
in most cases a small bump and some pics go along way, at least for me
There will be also some tweaks with the most old character sprites to look a bit better, such as these:
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4206/sdsdd.gif)
It will take a while but it's worth it for us.
There's also a lot of new artwork which we will show in a kinda distant trailer, here's a peek of some of it:

(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3820/yjj.png)
actual ones are much bigger of course
crono sorta looks more mature in the new artwork. loving the portraits and every thing else you explained(even if takes longer to finish)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
who ever they are they are stupid, if they want something they ought to hone their skills and do it themselves(but most likely they wont) and obviously dont appreciate it enough to wait.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: liamx2000 on July 01, 2010, 11:32:46 pm
people ask those question because your game looks so good lol , i think you should have a forum on your website just so the fans of your game can talk more and you can give small updates from there that might help a little , and get them off your back, not that you should care , but you must be making it so people go wow that looks awsome , cause lets face it ,your mugen game is the best mugen game of all mugen games , its got characters that everyone knows and loves the art style and graphics are amazing, but what the people should also know is that a game as good as yours takes alot of work and time which is why i think a small forum with tiny updates would help , even if its just to say " hey guys things are going well progress is going good blah blah lol.
well and i know you probly have already but please back up all your work ! it would be a crime if you lost all your hard work back up multiple times lol.
also people are bound to rip your sprites but thats just like any real video game out there , but we all know where they really came from " your game" , but they wont be able to do much with them becuase you have already made a perfect mugen character with them.
well love your work !! take care ill be watching and waiting patiently  :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: zombiejerky on July 02, 2010, 03:37:08 am
Ive been waiting for this game. Can wait for the release
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on July 02, 2010, 06:01:05 am
We really dont mind the long waits (The people who have been waiting from the start anyways), and I don't mind whats going on at least every once and awile. And 90%+ done actually is great to hear. Minor updates are always good, but you make us wait so long for them.

I Do Not demand to play it or a demo, I only demand that it be the best game you can make in the end, and from the looks of it, it is surpassing my expectations even as we speak.

I will wait for this game till the end of the earth.

P.S. This Update was on my birthday! Yay!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on July 02, 2010, 11:28:26 am
you guys rule...end of story :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 02, 2010, 05:34:56 pm
Here's an extra, Alex Kidd.  It's one of my favourite support cards so I'm going to explain it a bit, [size=4pt]hope Ork doesn't get angry[/size]

His skill is Jankenpon, or in english, Rock-paper-scissors. If you played the games you might remember this from the Janken matches.
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8650/kidd0.png)

When he appears the classic tune of the Janken matches will play, and the opponent will have to choose one of the three options before the music stops. When Alex shows his hand it means that time is over.

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3103/kidd1.png)
You can actually move around when choosing the hand, so it doesn't affect the gameplay at all. For changing your hand just press the down button.
If the opponent loses the Janken match, a somewhat contundent object will fall where the opponent is, smashing him to the ground.

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7112/kidd2.png)

If the opponent actually wins the match, the card user will receive the damage.

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9493/kidd3.png)

If a draw happens, the match will repeat. You can actually avoid the damage... specially with X and his dash, but you need to move fast.
This card probably won't be in the next update so it might get a bit unnoticed.

Also, people who usually post here shouldn't need to read the serious final words (hence the spoiler tag) since it's not directed to you guys at all, it's mostly directed to the lurkers who then post in somewhere else in a really aggresive way. So don't worry too much about it :P

Quote answers, again wall of text...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

(By the way, for the admins, it seems you made a separate forum for full games, should this be moved there?)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bane84 on July 02, 2010, 07:27:28 pm
Oh no!  You've thrown the dogs a bone.  Now, they're going to want more...

Actually, I think we are making really nice improvements on the coding, especially the assist cards have taught me a lot of tricks i'm going to use for the characters, and I haven't even bothered Bane too much either heh,

::) You're assuming it bothered me in the first place, especially since my current works are on hold lol.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 02, 2010, 07:51:45 pm
Which is a shame, because your works are really amazing :(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bane84 on July 02, 2010, 08:26:57 pm
IRL stuff's been occupying my time lately.  Gym and work and all that.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: smashmusashi on July 02, 2010, 11:30:17 pm
Abysswofl has work been hard for you?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: vgma2 on July 03, 2010, 07:55:31 am
Hello AbyssWolf! Nice to see you back again!...

I have a question I would like you to answer please...


I read up one of your old post it it said that your and Orkimides' original character would be playable.

But you also said only characters that originated from video games would be in the game.


So did you guys decide put your original characters in the game or are you guys not putting them in?

Sorry if I sounded somewhat imppolite, this is just a question that was just in my head.

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Staubhold on July 03, 2010, 01:48:15 pm
His skill is Jankenpon, or in english, Rock-paper-scissors. If you played the games you might remember this from the Janken matches.
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8650/kidd0.png)

This is a very very nice idea!!  :yesgoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on July 04, 2010, 12:49:28 am
Sprite tweaking definitely looks worth the time.
The tiny portraits (and all the other artwork for that matter) look great. Exactly how long have you and Orkimides been drawing to draw that good? I'm kind of jealous.

I really can't draw by hand properly at all, all of my works are digital based. Also I don't have much time to post the very little artwork I rarely do to get some feedback or anything so it's a bit of self taught. I think the new csw artworks are better than the first ones though, not a huge improvement but the coloring and shading improved a bit.

Boasting, are we? Haha, anyways...by csw artwork do you mean the sprites? Or the single large sprite on the first page and the faces on this page?
It doesn't really matter. The sprites (Chrono) have improved greatly in my opinion, and the faces of Samus, Chief, DK, and Chrono on this page look...professional. I can't wait to see the actual, bigger ones.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Haver of Sex on July 04, 2010, 02:20:57 am
Keep up the good work  :yugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: BadChad on July 04, 2010, 05:33:31 am
Nice update Abyss! The new portraits look real nice. And the Alex Kidd support card was a pretty neat surprise. I use to play that at my uncles place all the time when I was like 4 years old.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on July 04, 2010, 11:52:55 am
Not much to say here. You have the good attitude towards people who keep asking about the game in an aggressive manner.
As everybody said, very nice update. the janken match looks lovely, even though I don't see it used so much since it's a luck card.
Good luck with evertyhing.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Rosie45 on July 04, 2010, 08:18:43 pm
Awesome update, but I really have to say this...
It's been 3 years of "coming soon!". We should at least get a simple demo to know what it's LIKE.
It doesn't need to be perfection to make a demo, or a test. People really lose hope when something
always comes up that needs revision. Judging by the videos, it looks very much MORE than complete
for even a slight test of it.

Sorry If I sound, rude, I'm not being like the "aggressive people" you were talking about.
I just think it's...time o.o I know this is hard work, spriting and coding! So don't take this post in a negative manner.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on July 04, 2010, 09:30:53 pm
Ignore RosieOdonnel45 over here...it's yer game do what you want when you want.I'm sure you have beta testers here and there...keep up the awesomeness...this is an amazing project... 8)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: smashmusashi on July 06, 2010, 04:26:49 pm
hmm the website broke again what's up with that?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on July 06, 2010, 04:32:24 pm
Awesome update, but I really have to say this...
It's been 3 years of "coming soon!". We should at least get a simple demo to know what it's LIKE.
It doesn't need to be perfection to make a demo, or a test. People really lose hope when something
always comes up that needs revision. Judging by the videos, it looks very much MORE than complete
for even a slight test of it.

Sorry If I sound, rude, I'm not being like the "aggressive people" you were talking about.
I just think it's...time o.o I know this is hard work, spriting and coding! So don't take this post in a negative manner.
shut up
Quote
(By the way, for the admins, it seems you made a separate forum for full games, should this be moved there?)
no, fullgame projects that don't exactly need a subforum still go here. if you want a subforum for this game the offer is still up, however!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Rosie45 on July 07, 2010, 03:53:27 am
Uh, no?
You may be an admin, but what I said was pure opinion and not against the rules in any form.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Orochi Gill on July 07, 2010, 03:59:36 am
No, you're saying they should instantly finish and release it right now, and that they should have a board they didn't ask for!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Average Mugen Guild Poster on July 07, 2010, 05:10:29 am
Uh Gill, the second quote was from the creator.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: -Greed- on July 07, 2010, 04:23:38 pm
Huh, the site is down, and so are the pictures on the first page...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Rosie45 on July 07, 2010, 06:29:27 pm
No, you're saying they should instantly finish and release it right now, and that they should have a board they didn't ask for!
Oh really?
Quote
We should at least get a simple demo to know what it's LIKE.
It doesn't need to be perfection to make a demo, just a test.
Yeah the word TEST is really the same thing as saying "INSTANTLY FINISH AND RELEASE IT NOW"
In fact...in my post I never said "release it right now" or anything similar. Learn to read properly
before quoting someone wrong >.<
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on July 07, 2010, 06:39:09 pm
what I said was pure opinion and not against the rules in any form.
my pure opinion is that they should release a demo whenever the fuck they want to and not because you're demanding one
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on July 07, 2010, 07:14:43 pm
My opinion is that Rosie is a leecher who wanks every night to videos of CSW, and that he wants the demo to have some REAL SEX.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on July 07, 2010, 10:19:32 pm
well said Cy...well said...besides we're all lucky that the team working on it will share with us...specially when they don't have to...be patient Rosie...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bankeretsu on July 07, 2010, 11:07:39 pm
Looks completely awesome, I've been waiting for this for a while, and we all know good things come to those who wait.  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Rosie45 on July 09, 2010, 07:33:10 pm
My opinion is that Rosie is a leecher who wanks every night to videos of CSW, and that he wants the demo to have some REAL SEX.
Ughh he? No...
I have a life, unlike you who wasted time posting a gay comment about "wanking"
Kthanksbaihun
What are you, 9,10,11, or 12?

I told you I wasn't being mean, and what the hell does "leeching" have to do with ANYTHING.

Oh and I really "DEMANDED" one, yup. I'm going to send an asteroid to earth and then flee if I don't get a demo.
You continue to flame and fail to give me evidence on how I "demanded" something.
Quote
We should at least get a simple demo to know what it's LIKE.
If this is what you call "demanding" then go back to your fluffy kitty slippers and learn how to be social because
this is no where near "demanding". So the real person who "stays up all day and night" is definitely you.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Gheleon on July 09, 2010, 07:36:53 pm
My opinion is that Rosie is a leecher who wanks every night to videos of CSW, and that he wants the demo to have some REAL SEX.
Ughh he? No...
I have a life, unlike you who wasted time posting a gay comment about "wanking"
Kthanksbaihun
What are you, 9,10,11, or 12?

He's 25, If he says you wank off to CSW he's right, and you know it.
Just wait for the demo just like us, I'm still waiting for Duke Nukem Forever  >:(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Average Mugen Guild Poster on July 09, 2010, 07:37:30 pm
LOL! Cy is 12. :laugh4:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on July 09, 2010, 09:21:50 pm
Quote
We should at least get a simple demo to know what it's LIKE.
If this is what you call "demanding" then go back to your fluffy kitty slippers and learn how to be social because
this is no where near "demanding". So the real person who "stays up all day and night" is definitely you.
LOL, what you quoted is exactly what "demanding" is. :laugh:
When your teacher tells you "Rosie baby, you should really start learning your lessons, so that you know how having good grades look LIKE", (s)he's demanding you, for your own sake, to revise your lessons. It's more than just a suggestion. In this case, you're doing exactly the same thing, only that as a demander, you're the one who wants something, while your teacher was just trying to help you.

I hope you're happy that a 12 year old girl just tought you some semantics. :D

Oh yeah, I forgot :
shut up
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Average Mugen Guild Poster on July 09, 2010, 09:33:20 pm
No one called you a girl...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magius on July 10, 2010, 04:59:07 am
Please don't pay the toll
to feed the troll

Don't even give him a bowl
and get back on topic, man I'm on a roll
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: KudosForce on July 11, 2010, 12:34:13 am
Having seen the latest update, I must say that you fellows are impressive as always, AbyssWolf and Orkimedes. New portraits? 3000 frames!? That is truly what I call dedication and doing it for the art.

My praise may be pointless, but one must not forget this; for monumental projects like this one, emotional and vocal support is always appreciated, so that creators get the drive to succeed in their endeavors.

Nice update Abyss! The new portraits look real nice. And the Alex Kidd support card was a pretty neat surprise. I use to play that at my uncles place all the time when I was like 4 years old.

Incidentally, I too, have played an Alex Kidd game at one of my uncles', back in my younger days. So, I also appreciate this cameo. ;)

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: highholyme on July 12, 2010, 08:07:44 pm
How could I not have noticed this before?!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: YourImagination on July 13, 2010, 04:33:44 am
Here's an extra, Alex Kidd.  It's one of my favourite support cards so I'm going to explain it a bit, [size=4pt]hope Ork doesn't get angry[/size]

His skill is Jankenpon, or in english, Rock-paper-scissors. If you played the games you might remember this from the Janken matches.
(http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8650/kidd0.png)

When he appears the classic tune of the Janken matches will play, and the opponent will have to choose one of the three options before the music stops. When Alex shows his hand it means that time is over.

(http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3103/kidd1.png)
You can actually move around when choosing the hand, so it doesn't affect the gameplay at all. For changing your hand just press the down button.
If the opponent loses the Janken match, a somewhat contundent object will fall where the opponent is, smashing him to the ground.

(http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7112/kidd2.png)

If the opponent actually wins the match, the card user will receive the damage.

(http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9493/kidd3.png)

If a draw happens, the match will repeat. You can actually avoid the damage... specially with X and his dash, but you need to move fast.
This card probably won't be in the next update so it might get a bit unnoticed.

Also, people who usually post here shouldn't need to read the serious final words (hence the spoiler tag) since it's not directed to you guys at all, it's mostly directed to the lurkers who then post in somewhere else in a really aggresive way. So don't worry too much about it :P

Quote answers, again wall of text...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

(By the way, for the admins, it seems you made a separate forum for full games, should this be moved there?)
One hell of a good idea there!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Rosie45 on July 16, 2010, 05:46:18 pm
Quote
We should at least get a simple demo to know what it's LIKE.
If this is what you call "demanding" then go back to your fluffy kitty slippers and learn how to be social because
this is no where near "demanding". So the real person who "stays up all day and night" is definitely you.
LOL, what you quoted is exactly what "demanding" is. :laugh:
When your teacher tells you "Rosie baby, you should really start learning your lessons, so that you know how having good grades look LIKE", (s)he's demanding you, for your own sake, to revise your lessons. It's more than just a suggestion. In this case, you're doing exactly the same thing, only that as a demander, you're the one who wants something, while your teacher was just trying to help you.

I hope you're happy that a 12 year old girl just tought you some semantics. :D

Oh yeah, I forgot :
shut up
Yes because I'm really scared of you "internet posers".
I REALLY have to do what you say!
[sarcasm]You are not just gonna say more stupid, pointless stuff in reply to this trying to seem bad.[/sarcasm]
watch...I can already see more fools ready to reply to this. LIKE I CARE. It's the internet, insults FAIL.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: O Ilusionista on July 16, 2010, 05:55:27 pm
Quote
if for any moment you though that just because we are developing this kind of game you automatically have the right to aggressively demand for a playable version and daily updates with meaningless stuff when, in reality, you don't care about it that much, I really suggest just to stop looking at it and go expend your time in something else, probably you shouldn't even care about home made software at all and only care about commercial games! This way, everyone will be happy.

Perfect. Stupid people need to stop to post such things.

About the project, it gets more and more cool every time.

I loved the jankenpo feature on Alex Kidd, its amazing (I had the same idea to my Alex Kidd too).

Keep the good work!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: LunchPolice aka Quack on July 19, 2010, 07:40:44 am
Yes because I'm really scared of you "internet posers".
I REALLY have to do what you say!
[sarcasm]You are not just gonna say more stupid, pointless stuff in reply to this trying to seem bad.[/sarcasm]
watch...I can already see more fools ready to reply to this. LIKE I CARE. It's the internet, insults FAIL.

I'm not quite sure why I find this post funny.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on July 19, 2010, 08:52:26 am
Yes because I'm really scared of you "internet posers".
I REALLY have to do what you say!
[sarcasm]You are not just gonna say more stupid, pointless stuff in reply to this trying to seem bad.[/sarcasm]
watch...I can already see more fools ready to reply to this. LIKE I CARE. It's the internet, insults FAIL.

I'm not quite sure why I find this post funny.

as someone once side LOL internet war  ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on July 19, 2010, 11:12:33 am
It's the internet, insults FAIL.
And it's the internet, demanding stuff like a dick FAILS TOO. :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on July 20, 2010, 02:33:43 am
Yes because I'm really scared of you "internet posers".
I REALLY have to do what you say!
[sarcasm]You are not just gonna say more stupid, pointless stuff in reply to this trying to seem bad.[/sarcasm]
watch...I can already see more fools ready to reply to this. LIKE I CARE. It's the internet, insults FAIL.

I'm not quite sure why I find this post funny.

as someone once side LOL internet war  ;P

What?

Quote
We should at least get a simple demo to know what it's LIKE.
If this is what you call "demanding" then go back to your fluffy kitty slippers and learn how to be social because
this is no where near "demanding". So the real person who "stays up all day and night" is definitely you.
LOL, what you quoted is exactly what "demanding" is. :laugh:
When your teacher tells you "Rosie baby, you should really start learning your lessons, so that you know how having good grades look LIKE", (s)he's demanding you, for your own sake, to revise your lessons. It's more than just a suggestion. In this case, you're doing exactly the same thing, only that as a demander, you're the one who wants something, while your teacher was just trying to help you.

I hope you're happy that a 12 year old girl just tought you some semantics. :D

Oh yeah, I forgot :
shut up

You're a 12 year old girl?

Uh, no?
You may be an admin, but what I said was pure opinion and not against the rules in any form.

It was also stupid. You're just going to get the same answer as everyone else. There will be a demo when it's ready.
By the way. I didn't think it was demanding....at least, not an aggressive demand. Just saying.

Keep up the great work Ahr-- AbyssWolf.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on July 20, 2010, 06:23:09 am
Yes because I'm really scared of you "internet posers".
I REALLY have to do what you say!
[sarcasm]You are not just gonna say more stupid, pointless stuff in reply to this trying to seem bad.[/sarcasm]
watch...I can already see more fools ready to reply to this. LIKE I CARE. It's the internet, insults FAIL.

I'm not quite sure why I find this post funny.

as someone once side LOL internet war  ;P

What?

well it seems someone was fighting so there ya go  :P

on a extra note why even bother telling dumb noobs who don't read the post what its' been answered all ready then again can see why but their wasting post space :P but that can't be helped I guess  ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on July 20, 2010, 10:17:37 am
You're a 12 year old girl?
The more you know. ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on July 20, 2010, 06:38:31 pm
on a extra note why even bother telling dumb noobs who don't read the post what its' been answered all ready then again can see why but their wasting post space :P but that can't be helped I guess  ;D
if what you're going to post is unintelligible then don't post it
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Rosie45 on July 23, 2010, 12:34:15 am
Lmao, who said anything about 12.
This is hilarious, people going crazy acting like dumb asses over someones opinion.
I spoke my mind in a polite way, if no one liked it, you didnt have to reply, who MADE ANYONE
click the reply button, wait for the page to load, and tell them to type up a stupid reply talking about "dicks" or something else that sounds immature and immoral and then post it with the intent to be "funny" or "cool".

It's...no.        Just...no.
If you want to be cool, go make real life friends  ;D
You don't have to say stupid things like a little kid, then have the nerve to call someone "12"
Seriously, WHO SAYS THAT!?!?!?! "You jack off to a game" That sounds like something a 10 year old would say -_-

BTW, this whole post wasn't @ you, it was at all these imbeciles who can't take constructive criticism.
If they can't take a virtual message, then I don't see how they will make it in life whining like a wuss :/
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Rote Zaungast on July 23, 2010, 02:58:56 am
if you didn't like what they said then do yourself a favour and don't victimize yourself
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Fake BRS player on July 23, 2010, 09:45:45 am
if you didn't like what they said then do yourself a favour and don't victimize yourself
a sentence owns a paragraph. lmao.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Aardbark on July 24, 2010, 08:58:04 pm
Being new to shis whole Mugen thing, I was just browsing online and found the videos for this game on youtube.

How is it that I never heard about this before, it looks spectacular.

I was hopefull in reading this thread, the first posts are from like 2007.  Here is now 2010 and I was like, "Cool it must be done by now."  But I guess its not?  Its hard to get any difinitive info, (and I dont know spanish, and google translate sux).

So Im asumeing this isnt out yet, and isnt comming out any time soon?  Which is to bad, this is the kind of thing Id acualy pay for.

On the website there are like a bigilion cards, and info how to play the game, and button controls and stuff.  Which is also posted here, even things like what happens when a draw occurs.  It all makes me quiver cuz it looks so awesome.  The sprites are great, smooth, and it looks well programed.  It looks like a real, professionaly produced game.

So the creators are just making characters, and not working on the game itslef?  Or is it done, and you have to like, make donations to download specific characters or something?  Or is is it like, going to come out in 2020?  I read things like support cards, and new sprite updates, green cards, but nothing about the game itself.  It just seems like the game is out and finished, and they are just working on bugs.

Anyway, if anyone knows some info about whats going on with this, that would be real cool.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: vgma2 on July 25, 2010, 05:22:04 am
Game ain't out yet.

The full version won't probably be out any time soon.

The demo might be out sometime this year perhaps but we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bastard Wolf on July 25, 2010, 05:40:07 am
The game was canceled due to copyright issues check video in first post. It was a fun ride, oh well let's move on to the next big project.

You're a 12 year old girl?
I want to believe!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seradest on July 26, 2010, 05:04:50 pm
The game was canceled O_o?

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on July 26, 2010, 05:06:45 pm
no bastard wolf is just being stupid
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on July 28, 2010, 06:36:29 am
on a extra note why even bother telling dumb noobs who don't read the post what its' been answered all ready then again can see why but their wasting post space :P but that can't be helped I guess  ;D
if what you're going to post is unintelligible then don't post it
if what your trying to get at is a wast of my time don't ask me not to post back either. cause a will anyway ;D



gee last time I posted something dumb here too some ass hole thought my idea was dumb too if I remember he should just STFU whats with people policing others on a dumb question anyway they should just let have their say even if it a ignorant question or idea.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on July 28, 2010, 10:27:24 pm
I think these last three pages, or up to when Rosie posted, have nothing to do with the game and should be deleted.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Jed on July 28, 2010, 10:30:36 pm
I think the hole argument should have been deleted or moved actually like mine form the last time as well ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on July 28, 2010, 10:39:47 pm
Like I said, all the posts should be removed up to Rosie's post on page 38. That's when the argument started.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: L on August 01, 2010, 01:34:21 pm
It's awesome that you're still working this. I forgot all about this to be honest. Anyway, good luck.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Seradest on August 13, 2010, 07:32:45 am
Any new Update ?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on August 14, 2010, 02:03:06 am
Oh no, here we go again!

"Will update when the Support Cards are Done with a video"
I think Ill just clear something up real quick. They said "Sprites for cards are 90% done" And if there is 3000 sprites in 40% (they said that earylieyer...) some math later and... 100%= 7500 soooo... about 750 sprites to go.
And the fact that Abysswolf has been active on Deviantart probably means he is done with the spriteing and its just programing and related stuff before they show off the support cards.
But frankly, programing takes a bit more time than drawing (Depending on what you whant to happen) now its Ahurons job to Program all 9000 of those sprites.

Be Patient!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bigo on August 14, 2010, 02:38:42 am
i still don't get why they haven't released an alpha version yet, the game looks playable since 2007
And anyway, why they have to finish all the support now? why we can't get a 1.0 game now and after they have done all, a 1.1 version? I still don't get seriously, if they can play since 2007, why we can't try as well?  :'(
And also why noone shows since february??
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Anthem on August 14, 2010, 03:24:13 am
I hope the project wasn't canceled.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on August 14, 2010, 05:05:08 am
i still don't get why they haven't released an alpha version yet, the game looks playable since 2007
And anyway, why they have to finish all the support now? why we can't get a 1.0 game now and after they have done all, a 1.1 version? I still don't get seriously, if they can play since 2007, why we can't try as well?  :'(
And also why noone shows since february??
Read the thread; that will answer your questions.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bigo on August 14, 2010, 01:19:05 pm
i still don't get why they haven't released an alpha version yet, the game looks playable since 2007
And anyway, why they have to finish all the support now? why we can't get a 1.0 game now and after they have done all, a 1.1 version? I still don't get seriously, if they can play since 2007, why we can't try as well?  :'(
And also why noone shows since february??
Read the thread; that will answer your questions.
do it for me then, i can't read 40 pages, i read a few
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: squall89 on August 14, 2010, 02:42:27 pm
..........is it really that hard to look a few pages back,or just start from the beginning is that really so hard.....
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bigo on August 14, 2010, 05:01:17 pm
ok i read 10 pages back or so. I just think that's it's strange, because they play the game since 2007, it's obvious that noone expect a perfect game at 1st release, so why no alpha or something like that released yet? Why we can't try the game until the tons of fantastic support are done?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on August 14, 2010, 07:48:34 pm
What the fuck did you expect? Instant download? Do you know how hard is making sprites of great quality as these? Or programming?

If the staff of this game wants to put a download link for a beta or else, it's their decission, not yours.  Be patient.


Ah no, no, you can't wait, you juzzzzzt wantzzzzz charzzz for yourzzz Myugenzzzz!!!! ¬¬
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on August 14, 2010, 09:54:25 pm
I just want to know how much they have done % wise.
But It wouled be nice of them to make post #1 up to date.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: (UchSasuke) Yukihime~ on August 14, 2010, 11:09:19 pm
 --; 
Have you tried PMing one the staff?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on August 15, 2010, 01:24:05 am
--; 
Have you tried PMing one the staff?

Imagine that you're someone from the gam's staff. And receiving hundreds of PM with the very same PM: "HEYYY WHEN CAN I DOWNLOAD IT? I NEED IT FOR MY MYUGENZZZZ!!!"


That would be annoying.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Takato-kun on August 15, 2010, 01:26:54 am
Felo is right.

Ok guys, just wait, this game looks awesome, and awesomeness needs time to be created.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: (UchSasuke) Yukihime~ on August 15, 2010, 01:30:43 am
--; 
Have you tried PMing one the staff?

Imagine that you're someone from the gam's staff. And receiving hundreds of PM with the very same PM: "HEYYY WHEN CAN I DOWNLOAD IT? I NEED IT FOR MY MYUGENZZZZ!!!"


That would be annoying.

-.-  Didn't they say they were gonna put it all in an .exe file anyway?  --;
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on August 15, 2010, 01:46:37 am
Yes, but they didn't say the day  ;)

So: WAIT FOR IT :)


Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: (UchSasuke) Yukihime~ on August 15, 2010, 01:54:28 am
xD right! Anyway, Good Luck finishing up with CSW  ;P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on August 15, 2010, 05:10:43 pm
Kids these days, they think everything should be free and available as soon as they want it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on August 15, 2010, 05:20:05 pm
this thread's quality really takes a plunge when no news are posted for a while
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bigo on August 15, 2010, 05:27:41 pm
Kids these days, they think everything should be free and available as soon as they want it.
that's not it. The fact is that it looks playable since 2007, maybe not perfect (for authors) but still very enjoyable, so why not a single playable version till now? i know there are tons of supports, that's fantastic, but if they made trailers and duels video, this should mean that there is already a playable version
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on August 15, 2010, 05:36:45 pm
So Capcom should release MVC3 now ?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on August 15, 2010, 06:15:01 pm
Kids these days, they think everything should be free and available as soon as they want it.
that's not it. The fact is that it looks playable since 2007, maybe not perfect (for authors) but still very enjoyable, so why not a single playable version till now? i know there are tons of supports, that's fantastic, but if they made trailers and duels video, this should mean that there is already a playable version
Cybaster is TOTALLY right and you're wrong.

Playable or not, if the AUTHORS decides not to release it, due to lack of sprites in certain animations(fluid movements and all), or the code doesn't works as they want, because THERE'S A LOT TO MAKE and the specific things doesn't works at all, E-T-C, it's THEIR choice, not yours.

Leecherzz thinks that they're right and EVERYTHING must be released as soon as they want, just to fill their Myugenz with ZOMGCHARZZZ!!

As soon as this is released, someone will rip the sprites, for the leecherzz, mostly of them will want the characters for their impossible rosters. Sprites will be put with a PotS code(typical), and the leecherzz like...like a lot of people here(don't want to look at someone... ::) ) will be happy, juztt becozz they haffff what they wantzzzz.

In other words, authors of this game just wants to save their work of those shitty things that leecherzz does.

Do you understand it now?


PS: I'm not that bad person, I just understood the creators and authors. I even could be more harsh, so please, stop it here :).
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on August 15, 2010, 07:14:22 pm
Im sorry people, but if you want these ZOMGCHARZZZ your your Mugenz (Lol), I am sorry to inform you  that they have A)Modified the Mugen engine and Char's to a degree that they no longer work with the regular Mugen engine. and B) They will be encodeing the game to prevent Sprite Ripping. (Not that will stop the Hackers, but it will with most of you)

They are not the people at Mcleodgameing (Cleod9 and his minions), they do not give out demos every 3 months. They are operateing like a normal video game production. You will probably not see the demo untill they are entering the Beta Phase of the production. Or hell, even the Alpha.
For those who don't know, Alpha is when the game is playable FROM START TO FINISH. Which is definatly not where their at.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bigo on August 15, 2010, 07:48:06 pm
Kids these days, they think everything should be free and available as soon as they want it.
that's not it. The fact is that it looks playable since 2007, maybe not perfect (for authors) but still very enjoyable, so why not a single playable version till now? i know there are tons of supports, that's fantastic, but if they made trailers and duels video, this should mean that there is already a playable version
Cybaster is TOTALLY right and you're wrong.

Playable or not, if the AUTHORS decides not to release it, due to lack of sprites in certain animations(fluid movements and all), or the code doesn't works as they want, because THERE'S A LOT TO MAKE and the specific things doesn't works at all, E-T-C, it's THEIR choice, not yours.

Leecherzz thinks that they're right and EVERYTHING must be released as soon as they want, just to fill their Myugenz with ZOMGCHARZZZ!!

As soon as this is released, someone will rip the sprites, for the leecherzz, mostly of them will want the characters for their impossible rosters. Sprites will be put with a PotS code(typical), and the leecherzz like...like a lot of people here(don't want to look at someone... ::) ) will be happy, juztt becozz they haffff what they wantzzzz.

In other words, authors of this game just wants to save their work of those shitty things that leecherzz does.

Do you understand it now?


PS: I'm not that bad person, I just understood the creators and authors. I even could be more harsh, so please, stop it here :).
well, i'm interested in the game, not in "rip characters and put in my mugen", that, for facts i almost hate (i mean mugen). I'm very curious of card sagas because it looks like a very good fighting game, and not a roster of mugen, it's a mod of it, that's why i wait it a lot, because it's like a different game, far from "mugen for noobz leecherrrz yeah griffin vs goku broly".
This is what i mean, i'm not interested in all in ripping or things like that, i'm interested in the game as it is
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Takato-kun on August 15, 2010, 10:00:22 pm
So, just wait ;)
Patiences makes the Jedi

Also, we don't know if the game is playable only with this videos, it can be so much thing missed that we don't see.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Duo Solo on August 17, 2010, 02:16:42 am
this thread's quality really takes a plunge when no news are posted for a while
Agreed.
They are not the people at Mcleodgameing (Cleod9 and his minions), they do not give out demos every 3 months. They are operateing like a normal video game production.
This made me laugh
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Noctis on August 18, 2010, 12:33:04 am
I'm seeing improper grammar left and right. "What you guys drinking.?"
Anyways. At the risk of sounding annoying, someone should delete not 2, but 4 pages now. The beggars and "leecherzz" are ruining this thread.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Haver of Sex on August 18, 2010, 01:03:33 am
IMO this thread needs to be locked so leechers won't necro this topic and it should be opened if the original creator of this thread or an admin does so.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Nameless353 on August 18, 2010, 02:40:16 am
Well, what i can say??
This is gonna be the best thing ever!!!
Good luck with your work!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: RagingThunder on August 18, 2010, 04:40:57 pm
Oh no! "Necro leechers" have arrived! Quick! Someone of high authority; start lecturing!

Come on guys, people are just exited to play the game. Not all of them have the evil intentions you may think they have; if they just recently seen a game like this and were unaware of its status then YES they want to know whats up with the game, and YES they would like to get to play it.

But, I think the best thing for everyone to do right now is just keep quiet and wait, find something else interesting.

It's really hard though, because, after all, as brilliantly stated:
This is gonna be the best thing ever!!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bigo on August 18, 2010, 04:49:41 pm
Oh no! "Necro leechers" have arrived! Quick! Someone of high authority; start lecturing!

Come on guys, people are just exited to play the game. Not all of them have the evil intentions you may think they have; if they just recently seen a game like this and were unaware of its status then YES they want to know whats up with the game, and YES they would like to get to play it.

But, I think the best thing for everyone to do right now is just keep quiet and wait, find something else interesting.

It's really hard though, because, after all, as brilliantly stated:
This is gonna be the best thing ever!!!
quote ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Haver of Sex on August 19, 2010, 12:04:07 am
Oh no! "Necro leechers" have arrived! Quick! Someone of high authority; start lecturing
Who are you again?
Leechers want it because it 's looks good but if leechers get crushed by the AI they'll rage , send hate mail and if they like it will be a matter of time that they'll get bored with it and put it on a burned cd OR if Abysswolf molebox it, then it'll be hacked for Winmugen or HR Winmugen.  But what do I know?
Enjoy your clusterfuck mugen  ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: funes on August 19, 2010, 05:53:31 am
This proyect is dead?
i ask because in official web no have news since febrary
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Takato-kun on August 19, 2010, 06:23:55 am
:omg: Don't ask these things :(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: YourImagination on August 19, 2010, 07:26:59 am
No it is not dead, the authors could be busy with other stuff.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on August 19, 2010, 09:38:12 am
They're not dead at all. They have tons of sprites to do (they made like 3000 in six months last time, without posting any update for a long time), and this takes time.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on August 19, 2010, 07:53:44 pm
Their last update was on Page 37 of this thread, on July 1st.
So no, they haven't been quiet for all year.

At that time 90%+ of the green cards where done sprite wise, thats at least 7000 sprites! With only 500 or less to go. With seening how he smoked though 3000, and the fact Abysswolf is active on his Deviantart again, must mean that the Support Card sprites are done.  (Not the programing, however.)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on August 26, 2010, 08:01:21 pm
it's all good...we can wait for this to happen...why rush greatness??? sprites can be frustrating to do...I'm learning myself...take yer time Abyss...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: zombiejerky on September 04, 2010, 03:02:07 am
He is an alpha dog to mugen more like alpha wolf  ;D Everyone Ive shown this says its amazing
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on September 04, 2010, 03:12:25 am
well yer tellin the truth...I love these sprites...I wish my spriting was that good
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on September 04, 2010, 11:12:18 pm
These guys are almost like the Montyoum of Mugen. They WILL be once they finish this game and knock Stormex off that perch...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on September 04, 2010, 11:24:24 pm
knock Stormex off that perch...
:laugh:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on September 04, 2010, 11:28:29 pm
LMAO!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: c001357 on December 21, 2010, 10:51:39 pm
new trailer!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rnBRTEEfBw)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: D00dman on December 21, 2010, 10:53:35 pm
new trailer!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rnBRTEEfBw)

NECRO!!!!

o wait... Just a mod to bring out a new trailer.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on December 21, 2010, 11:17:44 pm
said:
Also regarding all the comments with "hurry up, finish the game, release something, you guys don't update, this is playable because I say so" etc will be deleted, we do what we can when we want and without hurry, so we can only advise you to try to enjoy our development a bit more, even it it's slow.
Wise words.

Video was great. The support cards look really useful. Alex Kidd looks like a pain in the ass, making you play rock/scissor/paper while you're fighting, until you lose.
Zenan bridge is as beautiful as it can get.
Top notch, as usual, and nice to see they're planning on updating the website and maybe even blogging.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on December 21, 2010, 11:27:53 pm
crono's crisis card attack is EPIC!!! its kinda hard to keep track of everything(supports,specail skills, even some attacks) but all in all this is looking to be a fantastic game, hell just the beta is going to be awsome.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cybaster on December 21, 2010, 11:36:39 pm
Card Sagas Wars VS KOF NESTS Conclusion
Fight for the most complicated Fighting Game System
Round 1
FIGHT !!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Haver of Sex on December 21, 2010, 11:44:56 pm
Nice improvement on the lifebars.
Gameplay is beast as well
Yun's voice fits perfectly as Crono
Soma plays like God Tier  ;P
Keep up the good work.  :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: vgma2 on December 22, 2010, 12:02:46 am
Everything is so chaotic in the video with all the summons.

Looks epic.  :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: OZ on December 22, 2010, 12:24:08 am
Astounding as usual.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: LunchPolice aka Quack on December 22, 2010, 12:39:45 am
This game... looks so.... amaazizinggg
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Abysswolf on December 22, 2010, 02:47:14 am
Heh and I just came to try to unlock de thread... thanks for unlocking it mister moderator.
Well as you can see new video is out, there still isn't a web update because it's a pain, so i'll comment the most notable changes.

-Crono and Soma were totally improved graphic and gameplay wise, specially Crono.
-Crono's Unique Skill (Lightning) can now be used on air and floor
-Dash&Cut special attack changed, you can kind of figure out how it works by looking the video
-Changed Gyrocopter air version for a new spin attack, might change this...
-Magus is a green card (just saying because I got this question a lot)
-Soma's Crisis Card Attack is still similar to the one in the 5th trailer, but a bit different
-Soma now has 4 summons: Gaybon, Corpse Plant, Harpy and Great Armor
-Ice Shadow has 2 variants, Dawn of Sorrow and Harmony of Despair versions, just keep the button pushed to switch them
-Buer soul replaced with Skeleton Soul, Buer soul is now a combo.
-Several combos were replaced with new ones

Gameplaywise:
-Recovery roll added to all characters, you can link the crouch attack while rolling to perform a counter
-Guard Limit (GL) Bar added, your classic guard breaking system, when your guard is broken you lose your current green card and the combo bars get reset
-Parry added, no one in the video used it? I'm kind of bad at it :P Parry recovers part of the GL Bar
-Crisis Card System fully implemented, you trade your current green card for a crisis card when low health (level A card; 3CC, level B card; 2CC, level C card, 1CC)
-Critical system added, criticals boost the recovery speed of the combo bars, each character has a determined special attack which have a high critical rate(Crono- Slash, Cloud- CrossSlash, Link- Boomerang)


And that's all I can think of right now, hope the thread doesn't get locked again  --;

I'm kind of dissapointed with the cards that got in the video :/ sometimes i even forget to use them
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Anthem on December 22, 2010, 03:15:55 am
How long before an official release?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: GT on December 22, 2010, 03:00:10 pm
^ Dude, you srs?

Why can't people just be patient?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on December 22, 2010, 03:49:39 pm
take yer time guys,those sprites look amazing.the game looks like one that should have been made by Nintendo/PS but they didn't

besides we have our own projects to keep busy on till then
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on December 22, 2010, 05:05:47 pm
Che tronco, como decimos por Valencia: LA OSTIA, NANO :d!!


Awesome work guys!! Keep it on :D!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: -Red- on December 23, 2010, 12:02:14 am
Card Sagas Wars VS KOF NESTS Conclusion
Fight for the most complicated Fighting Game System
Round 1
FIGHT !!!


Dunno who wins but after 3 days of recoding my projectile helpers and totally retweaking the universal system coding (sigh... a NIGHTMARE!) I'm pretty sure I'm at second place at the "most retarded workarounds to fix stupid mugen bugs and to incorporate otherwise-impossible crap on MUGEN" award... followed by Balbel Sword  ;P

God... and to think it took me like 2 years to tweak the fullgame coding and im not even in the 3rd char... imagine this that has original remixes and spritework. I still think it could be alot more "fullgame-ish" by exploiting several other things that usually can't be done outside of fullgames but it's the author's decision anyway, it's not like the game sucks because of that (In fact is the only fullgame Im expecting for mugen for now).
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Lord Kain on December 23, 2010, 02:12:26 am
This is awesome this is like fina fantasy meets shonen jump allstars meet marvel vs capcom... very original game that im sure takes time to make...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Dr.Chapatín on December 23, 2010, 04:19:03 am
Good luck in the project.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Cazaki on December 23, 2010, 05:16:01 am
The game is excellent, my only ever gripe is that all the Nintendo characters have the same moves as their SSB counterparts. Don't abandon the SSB sprites, but atleast give them some moves they didn't have before, like Samus should get her ice shots, and she should get a projectile that does a better job of controlling the screen, think MvC and MvC2 Mega Man or Dhalsim's U1 in SSF4, etc. Either a slow moving projectile that stays around for a while, or easily spammable projectile that controls your opponent's spacing well, and chips away.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: YungKratos on December 23, 2010, 08:59:42 am
I havent logged on here in ages as ive been more active in the fighting game community. But I saw this update video on SRK today and was blown away by the progress as were many other memebers of the community. You guys have Really put mugen on the map and Got fighting gamers who hate mugen looking at your game and saying great things. i just wanted to say i think this is phenomenal work and support it 100%. maybe one day i can even  take this game to a tourney.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Chosen_01 on December 23, 2010, 02:39:41 pm
This....is too epic for words. :o
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: smashmusashi on December 24, 2010, 08:54:33 am
awesome video  ;D .........i wonder if brave fence musashi will be on here :???:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: dennisarell on December 25, 2010, 10:10:45 pm
*Stuned* Well. Besides some sort of weak AI, I think that it's the best I have ever seen it!

Just please don't make us wait another year for another video. :3
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: BadChad on December 27, 2010, 04:35:54 am
Looking great as usual. You never fail to impress! :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: YourImagination on December 30, 2010, 01:43:11 am
I'm loving it!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: hsblaze on December 30, 2010, 03:41:46 am
doing a  great job on the game!!! i love the way it looks!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: O Ilusionista on December 30, 2010, 03:48:43 am
Quote
God... and to think it took me like 2 years to tweak the fullgame coding and im not even in the 3rd char...

Relax, Spec Ops is on the WIP since 2002 :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Bizarro Spike Lee on December 31, 2010, 03:23:23 am
I suppose it makes it easier to tell yourself that.  ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: KudosForce on January 01, 2011, 04:53:06 pm
According to the latest site update, some new green (aka support) card characters have been finished! :o To wit:

- Nova (Starcraft)
- Simon Belmont (Castlevania)
- Selan (Lufia)
- Dr. Eggman AKA Robotnik (Sonic the Hedgehog)
- Frank West (Dead Rising)
- Lara Croft (Tomb Raider)

Also, according to the Google translator I used, it seems that 4 of the characters have been finished for the game, with AbyssWolf and Orkimides moving on to 4 more now. For now, however, only Crono and Soma are shown, with the other 2 remaining a mystery.

Finally, the card gallery's been updated again. ^_^
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Nico Stein on January 10, 2011, 11:10:36 pm
LOVE this project! The variety, sprites, color, and even the particle effects are stunning.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Titiln on January 10, 2011, 11:18:04 pm
please don't do that
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: Loud Howard on January 10, 2011, 11:25:39 pm
And i didn't see a Goddamn ID Software character in this shit!

curse these RE fans! :twisted:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Support Card System Video )
Post by: SlenderMan on January 11, 2011, 07:12:36 pm
I can only imagine what Kratos would look like in this style...I like the amount of detail in the sprites...most excellent...I could learn a few things from you guys
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Crono VS Soma )
Post by: Abysswolf on January 14, 2011, 01:01:22 am
Updated the op with small stuff, i didn't add the new gameplay mechanics because it's not really neccesary i think, but it's also getting kinda annoying to update it... so maybe i'll accept Titiln's board offer or make a dev blog or something.

I forgot to mention last time, right now we're moving on finishing Samus and Master Chief, unfortunately Samus won't be that much different from her Smash gameplay except for some new attacks and such (Speed Booster, Flamethrower, Assault, Morphball...) so Chief might be the most interesting one this time around, Halo haters ahoy!  ;D

Here's a sample of the small sprite tweaking we're doing to their sheets (New, Old)
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg823/scaled.php?server=823&filename=samus0.gif&res=gal)(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg195/scaled.php?server=195&filename=samus1.gif&res=gal)
(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg832/scaled.php?server=832&filename=chief1.gif&res=gal)(http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg402/scaled.php?server=402&filename=chief0.gif&res=gal)
They have kinda similar poses but it's intentional

We also got interviewed by spanish blog Pixfans http://www.pixfans.com/entrevista-a-los-creadores-de-card-sagas-wars/ (http://www.pixfans.com/entrevista-a-los-creadores-de-card-sagas-wars/) , if you want to check it out it's spanish only.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Crono VS Soma )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on January 14, 2011, 01:12:22 am
Just awesome, as always, keep it on :D!!

PD: La entrevista MUY buena y lo más importante es que mostráis que CON GANAS, DEDICACIÓN Y ESMERO pueden lograrse muchas cosas :).
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Crono VS Soma )
Post by: Valkyrie_Project on January 14, 2011, 01:22:21 am
Oh God... KOS-MOS!  :o (Yeah I recently see this threat... sorry) Man, this is so f*cking great, awesome artwork as I say "¡Me paro de pie!"  :buttrox:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Crono VS Soma )
Post by: Rote Zaungast on January 14, 2011, 12:28:32 pm
the reflective glass effect on master chief was lost in the new one
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Crono VS Soma )
Post by: -Red- on January 16, 2011, 12:04:22 am
I saved the interview, I'll read it later. God I just hope this to not to get cancelled like 99% of the mugen fullgames, it's quite the problem mainly when more than 1 person is involved on it. I got a commentary on my latest youtube vid that says "Im impressed you didnt quite after so much time".  :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Crono VS Soma )
Post by: dennisarell on January 26, 2011, 02:53:51 am
AH! The new sprites look much cleaner!
Keep up the good work! :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Crono VS Soma )
Post by: Bigo on February 07, 2011, 12:00:45 pm
are you going to remake every sprites? omg this game will be never ending project...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Crono VS Soma )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on March 10, 2011, 10:55:55 pm
I would really like to see in the card gallery this characters there awesome of course if you guys want to lol:

Brutal Legend:
Eddie Riggs, Dark Ophelia and emperor Doviculus

[Prototype]:
Alex Mercer

Jak the series:
Jak And Daxter

Tiwisted Metal:
Sweet Tooth

Also Odin sphere i forgot lol.


They would lock very awesome in the blue card section, anyway guys keep the project as epic as you guys always have lml.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Crono VS Soma )
Post by: Abysswolf on March 27, 2011, 09:13:24 pm
So, finally update time. Samus and Master chief were finished some weeks ago, and today we finished Chief's stage, Halo Surface.
Here's the usual preview video between them:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjeO1wCJmo

As for various info in them (I guess most of this stuff comes new for most people, but they are changes anyway):
Samus
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Master Chief
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

There's probably more, since most of their gameplay has been redone.
Regarding other characters, some bugs were fixed and combo ability has been improved (specially Link).
Next characters are probably going to be Lenneth (Valkyrie Profile) and Valkyrie (Valkyrie Densetsu), but we haven't started doing anything with them yet so I'm not sure. Lenneth doesn't need any remake, just some color separation and finishing her moveset, but Valkyrie needs some sprite cleaning, and crisis attack too.

Also we decided not to make a stage per character, we figured it would be kinda pointless doing some of them since a lot might end up looking similar and others don't have really interesting locations to waste time on them. Maybe the final number of stages will be around 20, but it's just a guess.

I still can't update the main site so don't expect much of it right now :(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Loud Howard on March 27, 2011, 09:41:38 pm
(sorry for the trolling)question?

Where are the Doom(Doom, Phobos and Crash) and maybe Quake(Ranger, Grunt and Matthew Kane) characters?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on March 28, 2011, 12:49:33 am
well it has been a long time it seemed, and all i have to say is OMG! :o i mean thats really all that needs to be said. ;D you guys make a game with characters i really dont care for(master chief) and make them so well made that i actually like them. oh and aammaazzing crisis card attacks!

and were most of the supports new on purpose or coincidence? course there are a 100+ cards you havent shown on videos anyway :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: dennisarell on March 28, 2011, 12:54:36 am
I am impressed! Only thing I can really say is Master Chief could have used more than one Victory Line, but that's it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cybaster on March 28, 2011, 12:56:43 am
Very great video, as usual.
Alsways nice to see you're working hard, for a fabulous result. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Dope on March 28, 2011, 01:25:22 am
Is there still going to be a demo or is it going to stay private until the game is complete? If there's still going to be a demo is it still going to be your initial plans of 4 characters and 4 stages or have you changed your minds since then?

Very awesome work so far.

you guys make a game with characters i really dont care(master chief) and make them so well made that i actually like them.
I agree with this. I don't care much for Samus or Master Chief but you guys made them so great that I'd actually enjoy playing with them. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on March 28, 2011, 02:37:54 am
(sorry for the trolling)question?

Where are the Doom(Doom, Phobos and Crash) and maybe Quake(Ranger, Grunt and Matthew Kane) characters?

I think Ork wanted to do some Doom monster sometime... I dunno about Quake, probably not. Maybe Half Life has better chances.

I am impressed! Only thing I can really say is Master Chief could have used more than one Victory Line, but that's it.

Yeah, Chief's quotes are really limited... It's so much easier getting japanese dubs than english ones.

Is there still going to be a demo or is it going to stay private until the game is complete? If there's still going to be a demo is it still going to be your initial plans of 4 characters and 4 stages or have you changed your minds since then?

Very awesome work so far.

Well.. take this as a grain of salt but before releasing anything I'd like to port everything to the new MUGEN and its juicy new Sctrls, but for that I need to wait for the new Fighter Factory and its SSF2 compatibility, since it's a lot more time consuming (at least for me) working without it.

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cobra Caddie on March 28, 2011, 02:46:04 am
Something that's been bugging me for a long time; I fixed this animation:

(http://caddie.smeenet.org/Xstand.gif)

Whoever made it, be careful what compression options you have on. His foot was disappearing. :-X
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on March 28, 2011, 03:45:38 am
To tell the most honest truth i totally came when i saw the master chief vs Samus, ahruon and orkimides you guys are perfect sprite GODS!!!! Have all the time you need making this awesome game you guys are the beast of fighting Games lml.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: rizki29 on March 28, 2011, 04:36:18 am
are this game done ? or where download it ?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Duo Solo on March 28, 2011, 04:49:42 am
Master Chief looks ballin'. Nice job guys!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on March 28, 2011, 05:03:41 am
Abysswolf don't let anyone say this project is fake dude no fucking way.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Orochi Gill on March 28, 2011, 05:06:13 am
What

IDGI
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Duo Solo on March 28, 2011, 05:22:16 am
I find it somewhat hilarious that there are 5-6 people who sign in only to check this topic and post requests.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: SNT on March 28, 2011, 08:18:48 am
DAAAAAAARGH

(http://stashbox.org/1089859/darrr.JPG)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Nero-Jin on March 28, 2011, 11:32:51 am
To be honest, the game on its current status looks MUCH more awesome then Marvel Vs Capcom 3, and that is no Joke! I really see forward to this game, the effects are stunning, the battle looks awesome, etc. I can't believe this is only done in Mugen! absolutely Great =D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on March 28, 2011, 11:56:36 am
I find it somewhat hilarious that there are 5-6 people who sign in only to check this topic and post requests.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA dude you got me, yes exactly like you said aim only here for this game dude and also because i can email abysswolf i hope that he reads my letters lol.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Master Yoda on March 28, 2011, 03:06:51 pm
Very nice video guys!  :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on March 28, 2011, 04:30:51 pm
those crisis card attacks are fucking amazing
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on March 29, 2011, 03:50:08 am
Abysswolf you guys done it again the video got famous already is even in IGN FTW XD looooooool this is awesome!!!.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: smashmusashi on March 29, 2011, 05:51:38 pm
can i ask something will you every show a 2 on 2 battle?                               






P.s do you read the message i sent you? (i'm not trying to be a jerk i just want to know)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: AerosMugen on March 29, 2011, 08:12:43 pm
Everything looks awesome, I'm loving your stages too.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: rizki29 on March 30, 2011, 03:05:17 am
i want to download it its cool
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Dr.Chapatín on March 30, 2011, 03:24:44 am
Awesome stuff guys o/
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Aionios on March 30, 2011, 05:19:59 am
When I saw the title, I just had to know what was up lol. Then I clicked the video link (all of them actually)...and I was blown away. You really know how to sprite and animate as well! The whole video, gameplay, and card concept was just made of epicness. Keep up the good work! I look forward to playing this when it's released.

DAAAAAAARGH

(http://stashbox.org/1089859/darrr.JPG)
Rabbids as cards is win altogether.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on March 30, 2011, 06:42:12 am
If only MUGEN could let you be creative with game modes...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: F. James Fernandez on March 30, 2011, 08:23:39 am
Ummm for the looks of it and what theyve been doing it looks like they did just that. well sprites look really good and from seeing the gameplay it does look solid. lets see how it comes together when its in my hands. and man, wonderful work on the BGs. hopefully ill be just as good one day.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on March 30, 2011, 08:48:24 am
^ That's the actual gameplay, though. It's not like they made a "Equip Card" or somesuch mode. There's no Story Mode (Actually you might be able to make one if you wanted to.), nothing that you would figure a game with such deep gameplay would have.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on March 30, 2011, 03:46:58 pm
If I recall correctly Rednavi was pulling out a lot of extra stuff (even a mission mode I think?) in his project, but no idea how he did it heh
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cybaster on March 30, 2011, 03:56:25 pm
Just ask him, and he'll probably help you out (if you're planning on adding this kind of stuff, of course ...)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Loud Howard on March 30, 2011, 04:10:46 pm
(sorry for the trolling)question?

Where are the Doom(Doom, Phobos and Crash) and maybe Quake(Ranger, Grunt and Matthew Kane) characters?

I think Ork wanted to do some Doom monster sometime... I dunno about Quake, probably not. Maybe Half Life has better chances.


If you want a good sugetstion, do only The Doomguy and the Cyberdemon, they are moar Iconic in the gaming Community
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: galactus on March 30, 2011, 04:23:20 pm
I second that BattleBrother :sugoi:  I would love to see a cyberdemon in mugen  been waiting for him to be mugenized ever since I got into mugen personally :)

Awesome video of samus and master chief by the way, nice work guys I for one salute you well done :sugoi: :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Lost_Avenger on March 30, 2011, 05:26:33 pm
This is an awesome looking project and I cant believe I didnt find it sooner. Awesome videos too.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: smashmusashi on March 30, 2011, 06:48:00 pm
if you makeing a story what will it about?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Balthazar on March 30, 2011, 06:57:03 pm
Really, really awesome stuff :D!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: YourImagination on March 31, 2011, 02:19:53 pm
Just in case nobody notice...

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/115/1158071p1.html

I'm not that surprise that one of the editors from IGN gave attention to this game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on March 31, 2011, 05:46:11 pm
Lol why is it in the 360 section?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on March 31, 2011, 05:47:39 pm
master chief
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on March 31, 2011, 05:50:43 pm
Okay, but Samus is there too. I just think that was just dumbassery by the poster.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: F. James Fernandez on March 31, 2011, 05:51:20 pm
Lol why is it in the 360 section?

Just like tilt said. Master crappiness... well he didnt say it like that. but they make chief look cool unlike the real crappy halo game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on March 31, 2011, 05:52:39 pm
Okay, but Samus is there too. I just think that was just dumbassery by the poster.
if it was posted in the wii section you'd be complaining about dumbassery because master chief is there
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: F. James Fernandez on March 31, 2011, 05:54:02 pm
Okay, but Samus is there too. I just think that was just dumbassery by the poster.
if it was posted in the wii section you'd be complaining about dumbassery because master chief is there

LMAO
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on March 31, 2011, 05:55:32 pm
surely enough http://wii.ign.com/articles/115/1158078p1.html
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on March 31, 2011, 06:31:17 pm
I don't really get why they posted it on IGN anyway... same as in a really known spanish gaming site, the users there started throwing shit at the game >_> In the end it's just a progress video of a mugen game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on March 31, 2011, 06:32:14 pm
i'd like to see those spanish comments
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: -Red- on March 31, 2011, 06:40:58 pm
You wont be able to read them correctly, they are in 3D  :(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on March 31, 2011, 07:14:00 pm
Or....they could've put it in the PC section because it is a PC game.  --;

EDIT: Also, if gaming companies decide to harrass you guys about trademarks, don't listen. Your game is a transformative property claimed by you. The trademark of the IP is not yet violated because of the fact that you don't monetarily benefit from the IP, and fair use. Just sayin', if IGN puts it up, then people see it, there's bound to be that one person to come up to you and give you shit for no reason, but they can't do anything about it, so ignore them.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on March 31, 2011, 07:15:52 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Title is amusing, "Samus, Link and Master Chief will fight in Xbox 360" wat
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on March 31, 2011, 07:19:28 pm
Lol did they say it's piracy turned into freeware? LOL. Refer to my editted post.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: megaman_zer0 on March 31, 2011, 07:56:53 pm
hey abysswolf they're making money off your video you should get in contact with them.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 31, 2011, 08:14:31 pm
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I don't really get why they posted it on IGN anyway... same as in a really known spanish gaming site, the users there started throwing shit at the game  In the end it's just a progress video of a mugen game.

Its normal to happen. Gamespot featured my PDC project some time ago http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/pocketdimensionalclash/index.html?tag=result%3Btitle%3B0

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hey abysswolf they're making money off your video you should get in contact with them.

They aren't making money form the video, directly. Please don't start a useless war.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: megaman_zer0 on March 31, 2011, 08:20:58 pm
well you have to watch an ad before you can see the video its very clear that they are. I mean why didn't they just link to youtube if they weren't?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: O Ilusionista on March 31, 2011, 08:36:28 pm
They make this with every video.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on March 31, 2011, 08:48:02 pm
It's probably because of the music track we used, Ork received a Youtube notification saying that banners might pop up somewhere or something like that. So I guess it's fair.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: smashmusashi on March 31, 2011, 09:16:28 pm
I don't really get why they posted it on IGN anyway... same as in a really known spanish gaming site, the users there started throwing shit at the game >_> In the end it's just a progress video of a mugen game.
how i wish stuff like this never happens but tha do :(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on March 31, 2011, 09:26:24 pm
ign's comments aren't so bad although there are some dumb ones
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
lots of comparisons to the haloid video which was impressive but isn't a game so the comparisons are actually stupid.

on the other hand meristation is run by moronic shitheads. they said it's coming out this year. the comments are much much worse than the ones seen at ign (TRANSLATIONS BY MOI)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
meristation is the worst
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Somelgaster on March 31, 2011, 09:43:52 pm
No le den importancia a las boludeces que dicen en meristation... hay cada uno ahí...

I think Meristation is the worst spanish videogame site, it was the best a few years ago, but now... hahaha.
They are only useful at making walkthroughs nowadays... If you see how they mark the games you will understand. And the forum is the land of the walking dead morons (?).

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on March 31, 2011, 11:43:26 pm
ign's comments aren't so bad although there are some dumb ones
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
lots of comparisons to the haloid video which was impressive but isn't a game so the comparisons are actually stupid.

on the other hand meristation is run by moronic shitheads. they said it's coming out this year. the comments are much much worse than the ones seen at ign (TRANSLATIONS BY MOI)
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
meristation is the worst


this just show how stupid people really are and know nothing of this game or even mugen it seems. as far as seen it on a console, not going to happen. if anyone has heard of the Jump Stars series its kinda like the same deal except its based on game characters by companies and consoles, not anime characters
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: -Red- on April 01, 2011, 12:19:30 am
Holy shit there's people who's registered since 2006 yet they are so stupid to call this piracy at meristation, even in my noob days never went to that stupid site because even then I knew how much it sucked but never thought the suckage was that severe!

Im happy to know my fullgame wont be posted anywhere upon release because its a piece of crap, not even in those KOF sites that talk about KOF compilations  ;P

Dont worry about the ads on your YT vids guys, I recieved the same notification and it's pretty clear that you can keep your vid online and they wont do anything to it besides the ads, YT will only take it down if the one who holds the copyright for the music complains, and that wont happen for sure.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on April 01, 2011, 12:24:36 am
Hello guys and ahruon dude i read those comments in IGN and that site you gave us and those guys don't know what is truly is fan games lol.

Anyway dude how's the progress doing i mean with Lenneft and Valkyrie i wanna know if those are really hard to master in control you know that a good fight the first thing to do is to master a characters movements and combos lol well keep up the awesomeness as always XD.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on April 01, 2011, 12:26:46 am
i'd like to see those spanish comments
There probably jealous of your work ignore them there annoying. 
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on April 01, 2011, 12:33:49 am
Question, while you guys are around. Since I already asked, will there be a story or some beat 'em up mode, something? Because those red cards on the website aren't for show. Are they?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MDD on April 01, 2011, 12:47:47 am
First time in this thread, so i'm going to ask, is that Yugo from Bloody Roar?

Also, i'm fairly surprised you skipped on Ryu and went just with Chun-li. Don't know if this is good or bad
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on April 01, 2011, 12:55:55 am
ryu is overplayed. it's a good thing.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MDD on April 01, 2011, 12:56:43 am
But it's Ryu. EVERY CROSSOVER HAS RYU.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: -Red- on April 01, 2011, 12:59:51 am
Not anymore  ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MDD on April 01, 2011, 01:03:42 am
NO RYU. BROKEN TRADITION. DOES NOT COMPUTE.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: HiTehk on April 01, 2011, 01:16:28 am
NO RYU. BROKEN TRADITION. DOES NOT COMPUTE.
lawl.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on April 01, 2011, 01:21:19 am
2 main reasons for Ryu; first is because there is already another Ryu, and second because Chun Li's moveset kind of fits more in the game, plus she has lots of attacks to choose unlike Ryu. I hope I can make an interesting gameplay for her since she's sooo overused...

About a story, I don't know if there will be one, probably not.
About the red cards, they were though for a secondary mode or bonus stages, but before start looking into that we want to finish more chars first.

On a side note we finally started fixing Lenneth and Valkyrie, this time I think Lenneth will be the most interesting one to see. One of them won't have a stage unfornately, we're still thinking which would be better.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MDD on April 01, 2011, 01:35:04 am
BOF Ryu? I can live with that.

I was also hoping to see another villain other than Bowser, but then again, there are the mystery characters.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on April 01, 2011, 01:48:04 am
Ivy is somewhat a villain. Speaking of her, throw in another SC char. I know it'll happen if it'll happen, but, ttly do it. *Is aware of Siegfried being a green card.*
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on April 01, 2011, 01:51:25 am
i don't think it's a capcom ryu.

also don't litter the thread with character requests ty
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MDD on April 01, 2011, 01:52:17 am
Breath of Fire was the only other game I can think of with a Ryu in it. GOOGLE TIME.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on April 01, 2011, 01:54:47 am
Another new registeree crawls out of the woodwork to make a comment!

Really glad that Valkyrie's in the next set. She's basically the reason I started watching this before she was even confirmed and I can't wait to see what from her games will show up. Don't know how I feel about the stage thing though, since both Lenneth and Valkyrie have a decent amount to choose from and I'm obviously biased towards which one I may prefer. Everywhere I think of sounds great, while Lenneth's options seem hit or miss.

edit: I think he means Ryu Hayabusa. A ninja-y silhouette was on the site a while back and that seemed to be the one most decided it was.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on April 01, 2011, 01:57:42 am
Just go on the website. It's BoF Ryu. Pretty much everyone is on the website.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on April 01, 2011, 02:05:21 am
i think what worthlessnewbie said is more relevant
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on April 01, 2011, 02:15:28 am
Wish it was BoF3 Ryu :( with a Dragon transformation in each special.. oh well, but there's Nina.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: F. James Fernandez on April 01, 2011, 02:19:22 am
I am glad that Ryu will not be in it. tried of seeing him all over the place. its refreshing to see other characters that people dont step up to the plate to create.

As for a story, I dont see it hard for your guys to create but, if you do, just dont be cheesy like Capcom. but I would love to see a story with it. makes it more wanting in my thoughts then just beating characters up.

As for BOF i only liked the Tiger dude from BOF 3 (IIRC) how he screamed before transformation and goes berserk.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: O Ilusionista on April 01, 2011, 02:24:49 am
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I am glad that Ryu will not be in it. tried of seeing him all over the place.

same here.

Wish it was BoF3 Ryu :( with a Dragon transformation in each special.. oh well, but there's Nina.

same here, again.

Take this as a good thing: all this rumble makes the topic more alive :)


Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on April 01, 2011, 02:45:17 am
Wish it was BoF3 Ryu :( with a Dragon transformation in each special.. oh well, but there's Nina.

I guese it will take you too many days to sprite him with each move lol so many time really it would be hard work for you guys, so like you said nina is perfect.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: rizki29 on April 02, 2011, 11:47:44 am
there must be ryu bof here
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Ulbri on April 02, 2011, 06:08:13 pm
Hope you'll upload some new videos soon, 'cuz this game is pretty god damn awesome!  :ninja:

Edit : Just saw it in the Orkimides youtube channel about the last video (MC vs Samus) :
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This might be the last VS preview video, by the way
I am sadness!  :'(

Anyway, this must be the best fighter game I've ever seen, keep it up guys!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on April 04, 2011, 12:28:37 am
Wonder why the last Vs. video has to be only the 2nd video made after the Green Cards were finished. It's not fair! T_T
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Ulbri on April 04, 2011, 01:58:45 am
Nope if they release the demo after this  :sugoi:

Ok ok  :( -> []
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: rizki29 on April 04, 2011, 01:48:54 pm
i hope this will be release
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Noctis on April 06, 2011, 06:51:43 pm
The new stage is definitely my most favorite stage ever. It just looks so great with the war in the back.
Samus and Chief are looking very fun. The Crisis Cards were ridiculous (in a good way).

There's just one small thing I noticed in the video. The broken down Ghost. It was on fire (red fire), but in the real game they give off electricity when they're about to blow up. And when they do blow up, they give off blue/purple fire with electricity. For someone who's played Halo a lot, the red fire stuck out a lot for me.

But still, just everything was just amazing. Watching your Mugen work makes me want to try harder even though I haven't done anything in the past 11 months.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: amazingeagle on April 13, 2011, 03:09:23 am
Okay I have 2 questions.
 1. Will it be available on macintosh?
 2. I am new to fighting games besides smash bros. so what is this stuff about these combo thingys.
Okay now I have 3 character IDEAS.
I know you are busy so please work on bringing out the demo and finishing and balancing these 25 or so characters.
These could come in a later update.
 1. Big Daddy from Bioshock and Bioshock 2
 2. Alex Mercer from Prototype and Prototype 2
 2. Cole McGrath from inFamous and inFamous 2
 3. Pit from Kid Icarus Uprising (Make sure he has that gun thing from Uprising)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Kamekaze on April 13, 2011, 03:28:36 am
Okay I have 2 questions.
 1. Will it be available on macintosh?
 2. I am new to fighting games besides smash bros. so what is this stuff about these combo thingys.


1. Mugen is a windows platform program. You'll have to virtual box it or something
2. SSB is NOT a fighter. And they have vids up showing off how stuff works so just browse the pages.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Speedinglight on April 13, 2011, 03:30:43 am
2. I am new to fighting games besides smash bros. so what is this stuff about these combo thingys.

: |


You mean a combo?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MangaCaptain on April 13, 2011, 04:34:46 am
Okay I have 2 questions.
 1. Will it be available on macintosh?
 2. I am new to fighting games besides smash bros. so what is this stuff about these combo thingys.
Okay now I have 3 character IDEAS.
I know you are busy so please work on bringing out the demo and finishing and balancing these 25 or so characters.
These could come in a later update.
 1. Big Daddy from Bioshock and Bioshock 2
 2. Alex Mercer from Prototype and Prototype 2
 2. Cole McGrath from inFamous and inFamous 2
 3. Pit from Kid Icarus Uprising (Make sure he has that gun thing from Uprising)

lol I just had to see when you registered because you sound like a Noobie and you are  ::) . These guys aren't taking your requests. those characters don't even fit their project.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: amazingeagle on April 13, 2011, 12:53:28 pm


1. Mugen is a windows platform program. You'll have to virtual box it or something
2. SSB is NOT a fighter. And they have vids up showing off how stuff works so just browse the pages.
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Yeh can yuh jus tell me da combo stuff!
Oh and how I use virtual box?
Oh and last time I checked SSB and SSBM and SSBB were all fighters

2. I am new to fighting games besides smash bros. so what is this stuff about these combo thingys.

: |


You mean a combo?
Yeah I think it was a combo. What are they and how do you do them?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: amazingeagle on April 13, 2011, 01:01:40 pm
Okay I have 2 questions.
 1. Will it be available on macintosh?
 2. I am new to fighting games besides smash bros. so what is this stuff about these combo thingys.
Okay now I have 3 character IDEAS.
I know you are busy so please work on bringing out the demo and finishing and balancing these 25 or so characters.
These could come in a later update.
 1. Big Daddy from Bioshock and Bioshock 2
 2. Alex Mercer from Prototype and Prototype 2
 2. Cole McGrath from inFamous and inFamous 2
 3. Pit from Kid Icarus Uprising (Make sure he has that gun thing from Uprising)

lol I just had to see when you registered because you sound like a Noobie and you are  ::) . These guys aren't taking your requests. those characters don't even fit their project.
Yes I am.
Yes they are.
Yes they are.
Anyway there IDEAS not REQUESTS and how would they not fit in game???
Please reply you make me confused.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Chronojiuj on April 13, 2011, 01:07:10 pm
They aren't taking requests I don't think (unless you can draw your own sprites).
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: amazingeagle on April 13, 2011, 01:11:18 pm
They aren't taking requests I don't think (unless you can draw your own sprites).

Read the FAQ please before posting!
Anyway if they weren't it was an IDEA not a REQUEST. O_______O
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: GOH on April 13, 2011, 01:26:36 pm
Yeah I think it waGoogle.s a combo. What are they and how do you do them?
Stop being lazy. Google it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on April 13, 2011, 02:16:54 pm
they've been working on this game for 3+ years, they've made single sprites for a ridiculous amount of characters and they've made thousands of sprites for playable characters and support cards. i don't think they need ideas at this point
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on April 13, 2011, 06:50:23 pm
Yeah, pretty much every character is already decided, but we change our mind every now and then, like when Dedede was going to be playable, or how we demoted Mai to a support character even when we had her sparring moveset and vs sprite, it happens a lot.
For example I've been thinking lately to change BoF2 Nina for BoF5 Nina with almost the same moveset, I know she gets a lot of hate and personally BoF2 Nina is my most loved one by far, but her design in BoF5 is kind of original in our character roster... but I don't know yet, besides Ork hates BoF5 with a passion :(

Now that this has been bumped... and since I don't know where else to ask, did anyone around here get Lenneth's Code Break attack in Valkyrie Profile 2? I never got that attack, Freya owned me... hard, and since Lenneth's moveset is kind of limited we'd like to fully exploit her VP2 moves.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on April 14, 2011, 06:02:10 am
I was expecting some einherjar beat-down as is the typical finishing attack on a boss. Hopefully this is more interesting, but though I've played VP2 I don't think I got that attack either. Can't find video of the attack being used on the internet either =\
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MangaCaptain on April 16, 2011, 06:36:26 am
Okay I have 2 questions.
 1. Will it be available on macintosh?
 2. I am new to fighting games besides smash bros. so what is this stuff about these combo thingys.
Okay now I have 3 character IDEAS.
I know you are busy so please work on bringing out the demo and finishing and balancing these 25 or so characters.
These could come in a later update.
 1. Big Daddy from Bioshock and Bioshock 2
 2. Alex Mercer from Prototype and Prototype 2
 2. Cole McGrath from inFamous and inFamous 2
 3. Pit from Kid Icarus Uprising (Make sure he has that gun thing from Uprising)

lol I just had to see when you registered because you sound like a Noobie and you are  ::) . These guys aren't taking your requests. those characters don't even fit their project.
Yes I am.
Yes they are.
Yes they are.
Anyway there IDEAS not REQUESTS and how would they not fit in game???
Please reply you make me confused.

Well then, reword your statement, it actually sounds like a demand lol. Anyways, the characters in their game are classic and popular, all the characters you "requested" are relatively new to the gaming realm. Those are characters that you personally connect with. On the other hand, there is a general consensus for the characters they've selected.  :S
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cobra Caddie on April 16, 2011, 06:54:29 am
amazingeagle is banned, don't worry about that stuff he said. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: kitsunez on April 19, 2011, 02:02:38 am
There's so much to wade through in this thread, but why secondary or support characters over some of the main cast? (nina/ryu)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on April 19, 2011, 02:11:15 am
sometimes the supporting characters are more interesting than the main ones
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on April 20, 2011, 05:19:26 am
It makes more sense to make it the main cast, but in this case, it's whoever-the-hell-they-like-the-most, and usually it's for the best. Everyone they've chosen thus far brings something new to the game engine.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MangaCaptain on April 20, 2011, 06:06:21 am
off topic @Caddie, your Sig is tripping me out lol
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: smashmusashi on April 21, 2011, 03:37:38 am
 abysswolf if you don't mind can we see BoF2 Nina BoF5 Nina Sprite next to each other :???:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: rukifellth on April 21, 2011, 07:47:36 pm
I know this might come out of the blue (or rather, the blue card series, har har)

but I just thought that there really is'nt alot of Japan only characters, only Reiji (unless he has become a striker)
so I was thinking about a veeeeeery forgotten Nintendo character.

Infact, the character comes from the game that was the father to Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga, made by Alphadream...

What game am I talking about? Tomato Adventure!

...

Alright, screw the stupid title, it was supposed to be named Gimmick Land (which makes much more sence in context to the story than "Tomato Adventure), but the game has almost the exact same gimmicks and humour that the Mario & Luigi RPGs got, including the very wacky weapons and tools you use in battle... and they're not just special moves, they are COMMON weapons. :S

And who is the lead? A kid called Demille, born to hate tomatoes, and expelled from the kingdom for it, alongside many more kids. To be frank, he could'nt care less about the Ketchup Kingdom's monark, King Abira, and his ambition to use a special raygun, the Super Chara Cooker, to create toys for the kingdom. But when Abira kidnaps Demille's girlfriend for use in the gun, someone gotta pay. And it turns out the Raygun is actually made to turn the entire KINGDOM into Abira's toys... and so the adventure begins...

(http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/3285/demillecard.png)

And if you wonder about his moves:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2XnxI04MhM

What do you think? :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Noctis on April 21, 2011, 08:02:06 pm
@Post above

...Wasn't that idea already posted? I vaguely remember such a character being suggested and ignored.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on April 21, 2011, 08:05:25 pm
I know this might come out of the blue (or rather, the blue card series, har har)
do not bother posting character ideas or requests
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: rukifellth on April 21, 2011, 08:10:33 pm
@Post above

...Wasn't that idea already posted? I vaguely remember such a character being suggested and ignored.

Did I? Hmm. :S
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Rockell on May 05, 2011, 12:02:13 am
First of all I want to say that this is a really cool game and I'm really looking forward to play it. I wonder tho if you guys could estimate when you're gonna release the demo? Like, yea it's gonna be at least another 3 months or so. I understand that this might be a hard thing to do but it makes me sad that I get my hopes up each day for a realease =P

PS. I am in no way telling/asking you guys to release it sooner or hurry up with it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: vgma2 on May 05, 2011, 12:27:28 am
Estimation of release date can be a hard thing.

One could work on a project and expect it to be finished by the next week or so.

But then they find a mistake and it takes them 8 months+ or so to fix it. (Maybe not really that long.)

Since they haven't really said anything much about a demo yet, it's probably not ready and won't come out anytime soon.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Hrestelan on May 05, 2011, 04:44:24 pm
I wish they just made characters one at a time, instead of working on a project so huge that apparently will never be released. They could have a few done and released already.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on May 05, 2011, 05:34:39 pm
But.. that's exactly what we are doing right now :?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: -Greed- on May 05, 2011, 06:48:20 pm

Somewhat completed characters

  • Cloud -  Completed.
  • Link - Completed.
  • KOS-MOS - Completed.
  • X - Completed.



And then....


Q: What will include that demo?
A: It will only have 4 characters and 4 stages, but it will let you see how's the gameplay and graphic style.
These four characters will be: Link(Legend of Zelda), Cloud(Final Fantasy VII), X(Megaman X) and KOS-MOS(Xenosaga)


I hate to say this, but.... explain?[/list]
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Dope on May 05, 2011, 08:29:27 pm
He already did explain:
Is there still going to be a demo or is it going to stay private until the game is complete? If there's still going to be a demo is it still going to be your initial plans of 4 characters and 4 stages or have you changed your minds since then?

Well.. take this as a grain of salt but before releasing anything I'd like to port everything to the new MUGEN and its juicy new Sctrls, but for that I need to wait for the new Fighter Factory and its SSF2 compatibility, since it's a lot more time consuming (at least for me) working without it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Tsao-ri on May 05, 2011, 10:18:09 pm
Im waiting patiently, its see to be an awesome work...

I love the style fo the characters, the fx and most important the idea of he card implement ;)

Keep it up ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: vgma2 on May 07, 2011, 03:31:08 am
He already did explain:
Is there still going to be a demo or is it going to stay private until the game is complete? If there's still going to be a demo is it still going to be your initial plans of 4 characters and 4 stages or have you changed your minds since then?

Well.. take this as a grain of salt but before releasing anything I'd like to port everything to the new MUGEN and its juicy new Sctrls, but for that I need to wait for the new Fighter Factory and its SSF2 compatibility, since it's a lot more time consuming (at least for me) working without it.

Looks like we'll be waiting for VirtualTek to finish the new fighter factory then before we can get a proper taste of the gameplay.

Dunno how long it'll take for it to be finished though.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on May 07, 2011, 09:58:35 am
I wish they just made characters one at a time, instead of working on a project so huge that apparently will never be released. They could have a few done and released already.

At least they're doing something... ::)
The fact they have not released it by the moment doesn't means they're not done with some of the characters.

Before saying things like that, I'd suggest you to read and inform a bit ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Hrestelan on May 08, 2011, 01:42:49 pm
I wish they just made characters one at a time, instead of working on a project so huge that apparently will never be released. They could have a few done and released already.

At least they're doing something... ::)
The fact they have not released it by the moment doesn't means they're not done with some of the characters.

Before saying things like that, I'd suggest you to read and inform a bit ;)

I meant characters released, not just finished. Basically, I think there'd be nothing wrong with releasing characters like regular MUGEN creators while working on the full package. 
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: -Red- on May 08, 2011, 02:00:08 pm
those characters wont work on your mugen very well. they use fullgame coding, you cant just slap them into your compilation and expect them to work ok.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on May 08, 2011, 02:13:38 pm
I meant characters released, not just finished. Basically, I think there'd be nothing wrong with releasing characters like regular MUGEN creators while working on the full package. 

LOL

LOL

and more

LOL

He's doing that way because he doesn't wants to SHINOROCHISPARKLYLAFIGASAMAREETC characters with his sprites to spread the Myuginzzz.

Patience is a virtue. RESPECT the AUTHOR's choice. You're just someone who wants to download those characterzzzz for filling your myuginzzz and adding ZOMG!!SPARKZZZ and Orochi stuff and satsui no hado, and psycho, and final, and omega, characters and shit like that to an AWESOME work which don't deserves that treatment.

Learn respect for the other's work, kid.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Hrestelan on May 09, 2011, 04:53:33 pm


LOL

LOL

and more

LOL

He's doing that way because he doesn't wants to SHINOROCHISPARKLYLAFIGASAMAREETC characters with his sprites to spread the Myuginzzz.

Patience is a virtue. RESPECT the AUTHOR's choice. You're just someone who wants to download those characterzzzz for filling your myuginzzz and adding ZOMG!!SPARKZZZ and Orochi stuff and satsui no hado, and psycho, and final, and omega, characters and shit like that to an AWESOME work which don't deserves that treatment.

Learn respect for the other's work, kid.

I do respect the author's choice, piece of shit. I was just saying and all that was uncalled for. Kid? I'm older than you, moron. Get a life.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on May 09, 2011, 05:02:40 pm
never make a stupid post like that again
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Chronojiuj on May 09, 2011, 05:15:05 pm
I was going to say felololp shouldn't call you a kid, but your next post was just plain bad. Don't act like a shithead just because someone else is.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: SlenderMan on May 09, 2011, 07:16:00 pm
its amazing with the amount of effort put into this project. The sprites are Grade - A, and I'm bloody sure the gameplay is gonna be badass. my only suggestion for Hrestelan is start something of yer own making. keep yerself busy till these guys decide to release sumthin. it takes a while to make one character. just imagine a fullgame with like 35 characters and some helpers being coded. they don't have a massive team developing like they did for MvC2 or MK Armageddon...so show a lil patience dude
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on May 10, 2011, 04:34:24 pm
I do respect the author's choice, piece of shit. I was just saying and all that was uncalled for. Kid? I'm older than you, moron. Get a life.

I may be just a piece of sheet, while you're the full one ;).

At least, you can read the whole post and understand the meaning of that "kid". Not talking about your age, just about your attitude/behaviour. It seems you just want them at any cost, what's SO childish.

Don't act like a shithead just because someone else is.

At least I'm not the only one in this thread ;)!

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: C.v.s The Abstract on May 10, 2011, 05:04:24 pm
Hrestelan-Your def Childish, A man shouldnt Have to Tell another man how old he is to Prove a Point,Your Def A kid,By your Immature response.Calling someone a "Piece of shit",Shows how Low your Maturity Level is,Just sayin  ::)

and
2nd-Dont rush the Author work,If he Choose to make the characters non regular for mugen then Bad Cry me river cause it still worth Playing.

Just a another Half fast mugenguild rookie,Trying to demand what a Author should do.
 :megaeyes:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Magius on May 10, 2011, 05:14:06 pm
Enough bickering.  Be patient for the next update.  Take into account 2 people are working on this when they have time to.

Once again I have to say the spritework is amazing, and of course I suck at art and crap like that. 

I really like what I'm seeing.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: FeLo_Llop on May 10, 2011, 05:19:46 pm
Enough bickering.  Be patient for the next update.  Take into account 2 people are working on this when they have time to.

THIS! :D

Quote
Once again I have to say the spritework is amazing, and of course I suck at art and crap like that. 

You don't have to suck. Try, try, try. Patience will provide you good pixels :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on May 11, 2011, 10:26:55 am
Hello everyone long time no see :).

Hello abysswoth lf dude i was having a idea just a idea did you remember the way you make the 5th trailer i was thinking when you guys make the 6th trailer if you made it put some real music into it lol anyway this is just a idea, so instead of Touhou music Put Metal music instead trust me more people will love the game even more XD if you want that is remember is just a Idea of mine.

Later dudes.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on May 11, 2011, 11:41:48 am
? Touhou is real music. But I don't think there will be a 6th trailer anytime soon.

So for some news... there has been very little progress these weeks; job,sickness and stuff, and that made Walküre and Lenneth to be delayed a bit, but we're still making progress bit by bit.

I've been able to develop the first steps for AIs, at least now they don't act dumb (attacking to the air). Now they run to the opponent, backstep when in guard distance, use critical attacks when their combo bars are low etc, but maybe they're too crazy and hard on higher levels... though I restricted them to human capacity (so what's possible for them is possible for human players)  so it needs a bit more testing.
I can say for sure that if there's a WalkVSLenneth video one of them will have custom AI, or maybe both.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: smashmusashi on May 11, 2011, 05:25:20 pm
awesome can't wait oh but the way did you ever find that Code Break attack for Lenneth :???:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Tsao-ri on May 11, 2011, 05:57:41 pm
Excelent job man, Waiting for the demo, dont care if its delayed :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on May 12, 2011, 03:48:16 am
So much anticipation. Hopefully that sickness isnt/wasn't completely terrible though.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: dennisarell on May 12, 2011, 05:46:45 am
WHOA! Touhou not real music? Metal real music? You have something mixed up dude!

Speaking of your continueous use of Touhou music, will any of the character from Touhou be apearing in Card Sagas Wars? As a playable or otherwise? (Despite the fact I know they don't have any voice clips, but I think you may be able to get some help from the girls who voice the aquastar videos.)

Keep up the good work guys!

Edit:
Touhou is a video game. :T
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Magius on May 12, 2011, 09:57:56 pm
Seems to be game characters only, or any character they have on their site.(NOT ALL OF THEM)

Another thing it doesn't matter what music they use, it is THEIR project, so they can use whatever they want.

Now when so-and-so has THEIR own project they can use all the METAL music they want.

For me it is not the music but the actual GAMEPLAY and fluent SYSTEM that draws me to this game.

Music is a very minor thing.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Tsao-ri on May 13, 2011, 02:37:36 am
Hei Guys

Quick question...

About sparks... you do them yourself or do you have a sparkx maker.. person?

Are the sparks pallete index... or  just indexed, but not whit char pallete, whi256 colors

This is what really makes me wonder :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: maal on May 13, 2011, 07:42:23 am
Last time i heard, they use particleIllusion for the shinyness.

(First time posting, but been stalking this topic for some time, and the game since itself before SSB brawl, keep going guys!)

edit: yeah, first page they said it, photoshop and particle Illusion
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Tsao-ri on May 13, 2011, 05:56:14 pm
yea i though so..

But about index issue.... are the color pallete or not?
because particule illusion doesnt do that... and ps need some real work on them...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: skylin05 on May 15, 2011, 06:38:35 pm
I just found out about this game. Looks great.
I saw Isaac is only a support card. I wish he was a fighter for once in these games. He got shunted aside in Brawl too.
Can't wait for the demo.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Gino on May 17, 2011, 01:56:31 pm
Man the game play looks sweet cant wait for the demo too come out..a game that took nearly 3 years to release must be epic :) Master Chief FTW!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: asia_catdog_blue on May 26, 2011, 01:01:17 am
Eh, I'm still hoping to see video game characters from NON-Japanese Fiction.

Call me when they have Scorpion or Crash Bandicoot.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: rukifellth on May 26, 2011, 01:51:16 am
Now that you mention it, a MK and Crash Bandicoot character would be pretty fun.

Scorpion is a bit of a ensemble darkhorse for Mortal Kombat, but he got a unique play style with the spear and all.

That or it could be MK1 Reptile. You know, the Scorpion+Sub-Zero Bonus Boss...

Crash Bandicoot characters are hilarious in general, but it'll be hard to come up with moves for them.


Say, on another note, any ideas on bosses?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on May 26, 2011, 07:34:50 pm
Now that you mention it, a MK and Crash Bandicoot character would be pretty fun.

Scorpion is a bit of a ensemble darkhorse for Mortal Kombat, but he got a unique play style with the spear and all.

That or it could be MK1 Reptile. You know, the Scorpion+Sub-Zero Bonus Boss...

Crash Bandicoot characters are hilarious in general, but it'll be hard to come up with moves for them.


Say, on another note, any ideas on bosses?
well i thinking Sigma this has never really died on the X series i wish that could happen on this game, another really cool boss would be M.O.T.H.E.R. from [prototype] she would kick ass if she's a boss in CSW loooool. but remember guys this are only ideas abysswolf and orkimides have already have everything planed so we just have to wait for the official game, however if they decide togive patches of the game then we can tell them what we want to see and get.

FOR PURE FANGASM!!!!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Fauxcry on May 30, 2011, 08:47:33 am
is KH sora without party going to be in this game or sephiroth
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: dennisarell on May 31, 2011, 01:43:51 am
I remember during my original readthough of this thread that Sora wasn't going to be in it because of the large amount of sword characters already in the game. Same wouled apply to Sephiroth.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: F. James Fernandez on May 31, 2011, 02:43:46 am
Well keep up the good work, take your time, and dont let people get to you. Its not everyday that a group of people stay together to do not only one character but many. Be proud of that and I rather for you to take your time than to release another worthless attempt to creating something (not saying youve created something crappy lol)

I know youve mention that we arent going to see another trailer any time soon, but I have to say I do enjoy them and I hope youll make another one.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: squall89 on May 31, 2011, 02:56:22 am
there is 1 thing though,they said they would have a demo when link,cloud,x and kos-mos is done and after what i see they are done atleast it says 100% on them but ah well i am in no hurry anyways so
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: F. James Fernandez on May 31, 2011, 03:02:31 am
Its just crazy. I mean I do from Hi res to some HD work and not in itself takes time and can be hard work. To work with small sprites must be a pain in the butt. So for people how arent under a company, the quality of their work is amazing. You can see the hard work put into it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Fauxcry on June 02, 2011, 11:27:59 pm
please put ichigo on here i watch the videos and was astonished ichigo and cloud vs sephiroth and aizen would be cool if you do please don't over do ichigo
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on June 02, 2011, 11:29:27 pm
don't ask for characters
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Fauxcry on June 02, 2011, 11:34:03 pm
sorry read after my last post about the sword characters and stuff
Keep up the good work i like the cloud vs link fight
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Tsao-ri on June 02, 2011, 11:50:02 pm
I would  like to see more videos,  but honestly i think we have seen the best game for mugen :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on June 14, 2011, 04:38:13 am
Hello abysswolf dude i hope your summer vacation is good lol. ok ehhh guys i wish you could tell us what you been doing on the game this past mount last time you talled us that you been sick and delayed on something but that's cool anyway i want to know if you guys are still ok.

Thank you keep the fangasm LIVE!!! lml
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: dennisarell on June 15, 2011, 06:55:36 pm
@Metal Maximal: They said something about updateing after they get their hands on the new version of Mugen and import everything to that.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on June 16, 2011, 12:17:58 am
@Metal Maximal: They said something about updateing after they get their hands on the new version of Mugen and import everything to that.
That would be version 4 right dude, anyway know when its coming out?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Fauxcry on June 21, 2011, 11:52:28 pm
I think they're talking about mugen 1.1
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on July 16, 2011, 04:23:19 pm
abysswolf dude since soma has hes on stage this should made the right trick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVNbLoMwiwM
there id the official OST of ruined castle corridor harmony of despair awesome for the stage my opinion of course
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 21, 2011, 01:37:51 am
Small update for today, Walküre and Lenneth are almost done, only Crisis Card Attacks left for them, again sorry for the delay on them, hopefully next characters will be faster. But I kinda wanted feedback on something else:

Just out of curiosity, I tried using Chief and the Halo stage on Mugen 1.0...

1.0:
(http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7441/test10w.png)
Winmugen:
(http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4558/test11.png)

.. and it does look kinda weird in 1.0, it sure eats a lot of space... I wonder if the porting will go smoothly :/
I'm not exactly sure how to improve that display, remaking the interface/screenpack to hi-res is a must, I guess.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Tsao-ri on July 21, 2011, 01:44:31 am
Its looks great :D


Excelent Work , i love more of the HD screen then the usual 320x240  nowadays screens are more like that :D

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Pal on July 21, 2011, 05:20:51 am
You don't actually NEED to switch to hi-res. Just change localcoord in the motif to 320x240 and it'll be just like Winmugen.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Kintoku on July 21, 2011, 05:29:55 am
You don't actually NEED to switch to hi-res. Just change localcoord in the motif to 320x240 and it'll be just like Winmugen.
^This
other than that, it looks fine to me
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cybaster on July 21, 2011, 06:51:18 am
I'd actually prefer if the system stuff was in HR (lifebars, menus, possibly effects, etc.)

As for the display, it's really how you prefer it that matters. You can go for a 16:9 ratio if you think it's prettier, as long as it doesn't break the gameplay somehow. Of course, it's better you use 640,360 or 853,480 as localcoord for the screenpack rather than full HD, but you know that already.

Of course, using 16:9, you use the bottom of the stage, and unless you up the chars on the floor, the card system in the corners may come in the way of the fight.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MadkaT on July 21, 2011, 07:03:19 am
320 x 240, the best, in HR lost the essence of the game ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on July 21, 2011, 08:09:34 am
Since I have no idea about that sort of technical question, I'll just take the time to comment on the characters. Please, take your time with Walküre and Lenneth. As a gigantic fan of Walküre and a decent enough one of Lenneth I really want these two to be just superb; especially considering how the rest of the game looks to be. Either way I eagerly await what decisions you ended up making for the stage and move selections.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: vgma2 on July 21, 2011, 08:51:06 am
Happy to see the game being ported to 1.0 rather than having to deal with random crashing for when it finally comes out on WinMugen.

Good luck!  ;)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on July 21, 2011, 12:14:05 pm
In my opinion i would stick with win mugen abysswolf is right is much smaller and i don't know if the same life bars or the same system would fit 1.0.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: -Red- on July 21, 2011, 12:17:27 pm
Im sorry, you don't know what you're talking about... like at all.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 21, 2011, 03:32:54 pm
I tried the localcord thing, looks like this:

(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1945/test12r.png)

So yes pretty much like winmugen... I don't mind remaking the screenpack to hires thought, I also think it would look much better (remaking all effects to hires in other hand at this point... would be too much of a pain)
The only issue I have with it is the stretching at full screen, it was already in winmugen but I wanted to get rid of that somehow, there doesn't seem to be any option for it in the mugen.cfg

This is localcord at 640x360 (fullscreen) as cybaster said
(http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/600/test12.png)

I like how it looks that way, if it weren't for those black bars that eat the important parts. The bottom part was important for the card system and combo messages :/ Actually now that I think about it, without the black bars it would look exactly as 640x480 winmugen, the problem is fullscreen in winmugen. I probably have to configure my own resolution or something, it doesn't make sense it looks like that.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Pal on July 21, 2011, 05:55:59 pm
You'd have to change MUGEN's resolution to match the localcoord.

Just like in movies, games or whatever widescreen to 4:3 resolutions add black borders as they can't really display it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on July 22, 2011, 09:26:08 am
Now i understand thank you again thank you.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Enso on July 26, 2011, 01:01:36 am
The characters look original except some stages are not, which means they are pre-existed games like KOF, etc. What I'm seeing this stage now, looks original. Question though. Are the characters sprite edited or they're made from scratch? The chars in this project look original.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Yingyay on July 26, 2011, 01:29:48 am
The stages and characters are custom made off of existing characters and stages from various games.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Enso on July 26, 2011, 02:01:39 am
Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Saikoro on July 26, 2011, 05:17:12 pm
Whoa!! This project is amazing!! Looking forward to hands on time with it. Best wishes!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on July 26, 2011, 11:19:50 pm
Actually the sprites are sprited from scratch, if you seen AbyssWolf's video. He just looks at images and sprite them by looking at them.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: maal on July 27, 2011, 09:48:20 am
Just noticed the little ninja edit (around the 26th at 7pm~) of the first post that add the VS and idle sprites of the valkyries:
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3251/walkvs.gif)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5YT70z8i29s/Ti9QEWmKE3I/AAAAAAAAAGo/F4vEJkXymiE/s1600/walkstand.gif)
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5588/lennethvs.gif)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fmHCYnKLUgk/Ti9QEC-_SRI/AAAAAAAAAGk/GIgQKSLZS9c/s1600/lennetstand.gif)
 ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on July 27, 2011, 05:37:22 pm
goddamn i love those portraits
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on July 27, 2011, 09:40:11 pm
They're glorious.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Loud Howard on July 27, 2011, 09:58:07 pm
well im still waiting for the U.A.C Space Marine guy armed with a chainsaw and a Night Train

Anyway, damn the portraits and the sprites are freakin perfect, you guys did a great job with her
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Nero-Jin on July 27, 2011, 11:37:22 pm
That looks awesome =D can't wait to hear about the next update^^ still looking forward to this game^^
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on July 29, 2011, 01:48:02 am
Just noticed the little ninja edit (around the 26th at 7pm~) of the first post that add the VS and idle sprites of the valkyries:
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3251/walkvs.gif)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5YT70z8i29s/Ti9QEWmKE3I/AAAAAAAAAGo/F4vEJkXymiE/s1600/walkstand.gif)
(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5588/lennethvs.gif)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fmHCYnKLUgk/Ti9QEC-_SRI/AAAAAAAAAGk/GIgQKSLZS9c/s1600/lennetstand.gif)
 ;D

Dude where did you get those sprites?! are you also a member of the project? lol
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Bastard Wolf on July 29, 2011, 01:58:59 am
No, those sprites are form the 1st page of this topic, he even mentioned he just noticed they were recently added.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on July 29, 2011, 08:26:59 pm
No, those sprites are form the 1st page of this topic, he even mentioned he just noticed they were recently added.
Ohhh lol my bad XD
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: dennisarell on July 30, 2011, 03:04:37 am
*Sees Abysswolf upload something to his Deviantart* WHOLLY SHIT HE'S TAKEING A BREAK I THINK THERE IS AN UPDATE!!!

Oh, well not a full update, but it's fine anyway! :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Enso on July 30, 2011, 03:16:21 am
Really looking classy here. ;D I wonder if Ivy is in WIP for updates. I want to see her being updated.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on July 30, 2011, 04:28:07 pm
Yeah, Ivy is going to be updated, here's her idle anim:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qzDg-PtBWUQ/TjQTL0m3MCI/AAAAAAAAAG0/Hb_umBvhm6A/s1600/ivystand.gif)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: vgma2 on July 30, 2011, 04:55:59 pm
Yeah, Ivy is going to be updated, here's her idle anim:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qzDg-PtBWUQ/TjQTL0m3MCI/AAAAAAAAAG0/Hb_umBvhm6A/s1600/ivystand.gif)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I lol'd.

Do you guys plan on using that anim anywhere in the game? Or was it just created for experimental purposes?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Yingyay on July 30, 2011, 05:06:26 pm
Yeah, Ivy is going to be updated, here's her idle anim:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qzDg-PtBWUQ/TjQTL0m3MCI/AAAAAAAAAG0/Hb_umBvhm6A/s1600/ivystand.gif)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Always knew they were alive.  ;D I say the bigger the better
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on July 30, 2011, 05:09:18 pm
With ass sizes too I see. I say keep them at a reasonable to small size so that we can take her seriously.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Titiln on July 30, 2011, 05:54:20 pm
it's a joke they know what the fuck they're doing
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on July 30, 2011, 09:43:06 pm
Yeah, Ivy is going to be updated, here's her idle anim:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-qzDg-PtBWUQ/TjQTL0m3MCI/AAAAAAAAAG0/Hb_umBvhm6A/s1600/ivystand.gif)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I really lmao at this XD
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Fauxcry on July 31, 2011, 05:42:14 am
any new's on the demo :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Enso on August 03, 2011, 01:41:02 pm
The part where Abysswolf said he was joking that it's not Ivy's anim idle, made me laugh. I learned he was joking. And Titiln, you got it. ;) Yep! That's the joke from him.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Djoul on August 04, 2011, 08:39:43 pm
Your work is really awesome, I discovered your project few weeks ago, I am completly impress ;) Lot of imagination, ideas, animations perfect, a style really cute... and omg the super mooves are like a big show !
Well congratulations ! I will for sure keep an eye on your project. Cheers
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Fauxcry on August 05, 2011, 09:38:06 pm
This guy is what made mugen worth while he didn't put a bunch of characters with various sizes together and called it a game he put time in to make sure it was worth playing I respect him for this
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: F. James Fernandez on August 06, 2011, 01:29:39 am
Its because we have a vision and we care about it. Im not on this project but I know the time and dedication it takes for this and I am glad they are putting the time in.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Dark_Regent on August 10, 2011, 05:29:29 am
Well this is the mot interesting game I've seen in years. It has peaked my interests more than any game made by an actual gaming company. Oddly enough I have never felt that a game was this awesome since  Godhand. God...I miss Gene...Elvis...and the Mad Midget Five. Can't wait for the demo.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: smashmusashi on August 14, 2011, 05:13:08 am
hey abysswolf will training mode let you try out all the support cards?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: weaster4 on August 14, 2011, 06:59:54 am
Im going to guess a mystery character.

...
....
.....

Neku sakuraba and/or Sora.

Those chars have been picking up popularity recently...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Lightning Edge on August 18, 2011, 06:45:38 am
This has got to be the best game ever! I can't wait! So many characters, and i just love the art and sprites.

Keep up the good work!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: jweezy34 on August 21, 2011, 07:45:17 am
BEAUTIFUL SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL GOOD LUCK GUYS  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(STILL PUSHING FOR SORA AS PLAYABLE CHAR) LOL
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: AOK on August 24, 2011, 08:41:05 pm
Is there any someone could join and help them out. This game is so amazing and I just found out about it 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Fauxcry on September 03, 2011, 07:11:22 pm
I'm begging you please do tifa and zell as playable characters I always wanted them them to face off dissidia didn't favor zell
Paine vs squall would be nice to but zell and tifa Please
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Fauxcry on September 03, 2011, 07:14:34 pm
wait maybe can i suggest you make addons for the game when you get done with wanted characters like in your free time if your up to it you could make more characters for the game so people wouldn't be stressing you out me included don't mean to be a bother.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: maal on September 03, 2011, 08:02:11 pm
They are not taking request, got the full roster set already. And they said they wouldnt add more than 2 character per IP (We got Cloud and a Chocobo for FF already, and a few green card like Squall)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Dark_Regent on September 03, 2011, 08:20:41 pm
Not to sound like a pessimist or mean guy but this game could take upwards of several more years to complete seeing that our friends Abysswolf and Orkimedes both have jobs and lives. I say we wait patiently and take what they give to us when they do release the game instead of suggesting characters among other things that will take time and change around their creative thought process, making the development process take longer than what was projected. After they are done, then maybe suggest addon characters, stages, modes of play. They already have enough on their hands with the characters they are already putting in the game and the rest of the development since they are doing things from scratch mostly. I say in the mean time, we occupy our time with other games and activities and when they show us something, give them feedback.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Mateshi on September 04, 2011, 07:19:51 am
Ahruon, I registered on here solely for this game. Wanted to tell you it's one of the coolest things I've ever seen. :)

Could I ask you to clarify a few things?

1) Did Mai end up a support character? You mentioned something about this, and I wasn't sure how you meant. I also noticed you don't have her listed with the playable characters in the first post, but that could be an oversight. (Chun-Li doesn't have her sprite there either.)

2) At one point you mentioned your and Orkimides's original characters would be playable. Since then you've expressed the idea it'll be game characters only, so what's the case now? (I really wish you'd make Lina too, btw. :))

3) You don't have to answer this one if you don't want to, but are Mario, Morrigan, and Ryu Hayabusa still planned as playable characters? You also mentioned you were considering the Hero from DQ5 and Jessica from DQ8; what happened with them?

Thank you so much in advance.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: -Red- on September 04, 2011, 07:34:22 am
I really wish people to stop reviving this thread, gives me hopes to see new content just to get dissapointed after reading the new replies, it's frustrating :V
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: LurkerSupreme on September 04, 2011, 07:37:34 am
Like you're making it any better. ::)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Cazaki on September 04, 2011, 07:56:09 am
It's to be expected. Some people make accounts just to talk about this game right here. I ain't fuckin wit it tho, let em come.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Duo Solo on September 05, 2011, 04:48:52 am
I really wish people to stop reviving this thread, gives me hopes to see new content just to get dissapointed after reading the new replies, it's frustrating :V
The more people we can get into Mugen, the better.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Mateshi on September 07, 2011, 01:35:39 am
Hopefully no one will get mad at me for making this go up again, but I figure actual discussion about the game is allowed here, right?

I've been trying to figure out who two of the support characters are for a while now, so I hope someone here knows who they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZzR_kUW0f0&t=2m23s
The flying saucer thing on the right on the screen with a bunch of support characters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rnBRTEEfBw&t=2m7s
Green-haired character using "Throw".

These are literally the only two who have been shown that I don't know, so it's bugging the crap out of me. lol
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Pal on September 07, 2011, 01:38:39 am
Flying Saucer is Mars People from Metal Slug. You know, those alien things in 2 & 3.

Green Haired Girl is Marina Liteyears from Treasure's N64 game "Mischief Makers".
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Mateshi on September 07, 2011, 02:50:04 am
Sweet, thank you so much. I knew Marina was familiar, but couldn't place her. The Mars People, though... they never actually appeared exactly like  that, did they? I guess it's like Tron Bonne in MvC, with how the Gustaff was altered so you can actually see her. (Though why they changed the colors is beyond me...)

Would anyone be interested in a list of all the playable and support characters shown so far? (Plus other, incomplete lists of other character appearances.) I've done it already, but I wouldn't want to post it here without asking. ^^;
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 07, 2011, 09:19:52 pm
You're lucky, someone in gamespot posted it but I don't remember if it's complete

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Pal on September 07, 2011, 10:53:47 pm
Yeah, looks complete but has a few inconsistencies.

Ryu Hayabusa is in unknown status when he's playable. If I recall correctly you said "there already is a Ryu in our game" when people asked why you included Chun-Li as playable instead of Street Fighter Ryu.

The other inconsistecy is at the end when they posted about stage cameos. The stage where B.B. Hood and Zabel appear is from Capcom Fighting Jam.

With some proper formatting, you could add that list to the first post.

Since you're already here, I might as well satisfy my curiosity:
How much disk space does CSW take?

I get the feeling that I'm gonna need a lot of bandwidth whenever it's released.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 07, 2011, 11:20:05 pm
Well I really have no idea right now... the whole project folder is like 5 gb big so far, but there's a lot of file cleaning needed.
I think characters are around 25 mb each one though.

I forgot, now that I'm posting... Lenneth was completed a few days ago, now we're making the end touches to Walkure. I really hope we can get a video or something before the end of the month.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Mateshi on September 08, 2011, 01:43:09 am
Yeah, that's me that posted that. I put Ryu Hayabusa under "unknown status" because we haven't even seen him in action; they could always have changed their mind, just like they did with Mai, Dedede, and Whirlo.

Thanks for the info on the Darkstalkers stage.

EDIT: Just noticed I accidentally put Mai above Magus instead of below. Alphabetical fail.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: smashmusashi on September 08, 2011, 02:53:41 am
no musashi nooooo :(
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 08, 2011, 03:47:19 am
We're getting another video maybe? Awesome! Especially with Valkyrie and Lenneth. Did I miss any word on who ended up getting the stage or is that a detail we get to wait for the video to see?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on September 10, 2011, 04:09:10 am
Next video is gonna be sick XD i hope i get a fangasm out of this XD
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: jweezy34 on September 10, 2011, 11:02:45 am
question *scratches head* is there gonna be any bosses? I know diablo is a boss but is he SUB BOSS OR MAIN BOSS?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Pal on September 10, 2011, 05:01:32 pm
From the first post:

Quote
Boss Battles:

These special battles are still in a very early stage in development. We are planning to make them similar to the Smash Bros Boss Battles to give you an idea, every boss will have Super Armor and will follow a pattern of attacks. The Super Armor kind of works right now, but it will need a lot of fixing when we start working on these battles more deeply. The initial idea was to make 2 types of Boss Battles, one for simul and other for single player, but i'm not sure if that can be done, maybe we only put these battles in normal arcade, not sure. More info will come later.

Apparently, Simul mode support has been dropped with the introduction of Support Cards, but I may be wrong on that.

Boss Battles represent Red Cards and they appear after every 3 battles:

Abysswolf said:
My idea for the arcade battles is pretty simple and straightfoward; for example an arcade playthrough would contain 16 stages:

Battle 1
Battle 2
Battle 3
Bonus Stage
Boss Battle 1
Battle 4
Battle 5
Battle 6
Bonus Stage
Boss Battle 2
Battle 7
Battle 8
Battle 9
Bonus Stage
Boss Battle 3
Final Battle (with character's rival)

That's their plan at least. That answer your question?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: jweezy34 on September 10, 2011, 07:06:59 pm
AHHH now i see thanks i was confused at first lol  ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Pal on September 11, 2011, 03:53:23 am
I'm sure Ahruon has some huge post coming up with updates including this but I'm betting on the 0.1% that it's not happening.

IT SHALL BE ENGRAVED UPON YOUR SOUL
DIVINE ASSAULT
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2136/lenneth.png)
NIBELUNG VALESTI
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 11, 2011, 05:46:59 am
Always been a fan of that attack. Big, show-y, but overall simple.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: smashmusashi on September 11, 2011, 08:04:53 am
I'm sure Ahruon has some huge post coming up with updates including this but I'm betting on the 0.1% that it's not happening.

IT SHALL BE ENGRAVED UPON YOUR SOUL
DIVINE ASSAULT
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2136/lenneth.png)
NIBELUNG VALESTI
hey pal where you get that photo from?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Pal on September 11, 2011, 08:24:55 am
From the ultra secret beta-tester room for super special people. (http://abysswolf.deviantart.com/)

Just remember not to tell anybody  :ssh:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Long John Killer on September 11, 2011, 09:03:18 am
4) BOSSES

Diablo
-Appearance(s): Diablo series
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/954/bossmu8.png
This is, hands down, my second favorite bit of info I've heard on this game. (First is good ol' John being a playable character.)

Anyways....the Lightning in there looks absolutely great.  Well.....simply put, everything in this project looks great.  It's simply mind-boggling how much detail is put into this.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: smashmusashi on September 11, 2011, 04:20:34 pm
thank for the info i keep forgeting to scroll down sometime's when i'm on that site
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on September 12, 2011, 12:16:41 am
I'm sure Ahruon has some huge post coming up with updates including this but I'm betting on the 0.1% that it's not happening.

IT SHALL BE ENGRAVED UPON YOUR SOUL
DIVINE ASSAULT
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2136/lenneth.png)
NIBELUNG VALESTI
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This pic = Boner!!!

Hey ahuron Omedeto Gozaimasu!!!!(congrats in japan) for the new job hope that everything goes well dude
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MooMaster666 on September 12, 2011, 12:31:54 am
Hey I like Lenneth Valkyrie in Valkyrie Profile, but how does this pic give boner? :o
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on September 12, 2011, 03:38:09 am
Hey I like Lenneth Valkyrie in Valkyrie Profile, but how does this pic give boner? :o
Boner means too epic dude.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Tortwag on September 12, 2011, 09:37:51 pm
Wait a sec!!! Why Etna is in the game without Laharl??
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: MooMaster666 on September 12, 2011, 10:46:51 pm
Hey I like Lenneth Valkyrie in Valkyrie Profile, but how does this pic give boner? :o
Boner means too epic dude.
No it does not and i'm not even thinking of the slang use of "boner" either. :|
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Pal on September 12, 2011, 10:52:49 pm
Hey, I've got a better idea.

We could either discuss what will they add next or we could stop bumping the fucking thread already.

Wait a sec!!! Why Etna is in the game without Laharl??

Etna is the better character and they're limiting themselves to one character per series in the playable roster.

Any character from the same series ends up as Support or Boss character, this is to increase variety in the roster.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 12, 2011, 11:50:22 pm
First post updated. I'm really interested in Valkyrie's magic, and especially surprised that she gets the chameleon magic. Can't wait to see how that turns out! I don't think I see any other updates besides the note about Valkyrie, Lenneth getting labeled "completed" and the character banner being colored in a little more.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 13, 2011, 12:32:25 am
Actually video is still uploading, but I need to go to sleep soon so I'll just post the basic update of the characters, video will be up in a couple hours.

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5588/lennethvs.gif)
Lenneth (Valkyrie Profile)
- Entire sheet was cleaned, fixed a lot of animations
- Cleaning was specially done to get better alternative colors (Hrist, Silmeria, Freya, and PSX opening colors are the best ones)
- Finished moveset, it was pretty much done before, we just retouched a couple of things
- She only had Glowing Pierce as a combo before, so we also made her whole combo moveset. Lenneth can summon einherjar (hittable) in her combos
- Holy Shields is her unique skill... I forgot to show it in the video, she summons her floating shields and changes her stance. With them she blocks projectiles without defending.
- Ptero attack can be done three times consecutively
- Her gameplay can be a bit tricky, she sometimes needs to keep freezing the enemy with the ice crystal (blockable) to keep a long combo.
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3251/walkvs.gif)
Walküre (Walküre no Bouken)
- Lot of color separation and new animations
- Same as Lenneth, she got a lot better alternate palettes
- New normal attacks, most of them shield hits, special attacks are mostly the same
- New combos:
      Big Magic, Chameleon Magic , Zuhle's Shop,  Lightning Magic, Guard Impact
- Chameleon Magic is a magic that turns the opponent into a lame monster, such as Dragon Quest's Slimes:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SmazJLkxDZw/Tm6HWYZhCVI/AAAAAAAAAG4/R7srY7P8F8w/s1600/slimestand.gif)
we still need to do some more variations to it so the enemy can turn into random monsters, but that will be later on.
- Crisis Card Attack also done, but not shown in video
- Unique Skill consists in summoning an unique clone, which moves at the same time you push foward/back and attacks at the same time you push the attack button

BLAH, I forgot, Walküre has my first attempts at an AI, thanks to the advice of Steimpunk. She gets kinda annoying though.. really spammy, and it's not at very high random values.

I think that's it, I'm afraid there's no new stage at all yet. We want to start working on the next two characters (most likely Etna and Ivy) asap
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Duo Solo on September 13, 2011, 12:37:13 am
I love you.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 13, 2011, 01:34:45 am
That is so awesome. I love what you went with for both of 'em from the sounds of it. Is Valkyrie using a lot of shield attacks based on Soul Calibur maybe? I seem to remember lots of shieldwork when I made her in Soul Calibur III. It's either that or one of the manga where I remember at least one awesome shield-thing. Shame about no new stage though. I was really interested in which one of the two would win out for one.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Pal on September 13, 2011, 01:37:12 am
Damn, and here I thought the update wasn't going to get posted until Friday or something.

Walkure sounds fun to use and I love that DQ slime sprite.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on September 13, 2011, 02:12:43 am
Actually video is still uploading, but I need to go to sleep soon so I'll just post the basic update of the characters, video will be up in a couple hours.

(http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5588/lennethvs.gif)
Lenneth (Valkyrie Profile)
- Entire sheet was cleaned, fixed a lot of animations
- Cleaning was specially done to get better alternative colors (Hrist, Silmeria, Freya, and PSX opening colors are the best ones)
- Finished moveset, it was pretty much done before, we just retouched a couple of things
- She only had Glowing Pierce as a combo before, so we also made her whole combo moveset. Lenneth can summon einherjar (hittable) in her combos
- Holy Shields is her unique skill... I forgot to show it in the video, she summons her floating shields and changes her stance. With them she blocks projectiles without defending.
- Ptero attack can be done three times consecutively
- Her gameplay can be a bit tricky, she sometimes needs to keep freezing the enemy with the ice crystal (blockable) to keep a long combo.
(http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3251/walkvs.gif)
Walküre (Walküre no Bouken)
- Lot of color separation and new animations
- Same as Lenneth, she got a lot better alternate palettes
- New normal attacks, most of them shield hits, special attacks are mostly the same
- New combos:
      Big Magic, Chameleon Magic , Zuhle's Shop,  Lightning Magic, Guard Impact
- Chameleon Magic is a magic that turns the opponent into a lame monster, such as Dragon Quest's Slimes:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SmazJLkxDZw/Tm6HWYZhCVI/AAAAAAAAAG4/R7srY7P8F8w/s1600/slimestand.gif)
we still need to do some more variations to it so the enemy can turn into random monsters, but that will be later on.
- Crisis Card Attack also done, but not shown in video
- Unique Skill consists in summoning an unique clone, which moves at the same time you push foward/back and attacks at the same time you push the attack button

BLAH, I forgot, Walküre has my first attempts at an AI, thanks to the advice of Steimpunk. She gets kinda annoying though.. really spammy, and it's not at very high random values.

I think that's it, I'm afraid there's no new stage at all yet. We want to start working on the next two characters (most likely Etna and Ivy) asap

THIS FIGHT IS GONNA BE SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Long John Killer on September 13, 2011, 02:33:13 am
*Doesn't know who the newest two are*

This Chameleon Magic sounds interesting....if I may make a suggestion?  A more recent game character that comes to mind, in regards to weak characters, are the Hobbes of Fable.

I actually have many suggestions in mind, but I'm sure no one wants this thread filling with random spectators suggesting games.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Dark_Regent on September 13, 2011, 05:30:57 am
This is making me anxious for the game to come out...or atleast a demo version. I am just glad we are getting updates and amazing updates at that. That is enough.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: -KD3G- on September 13, 2011, 12:27:40 pm
This is the only mugen game thats pissing me off  >:( I want to play it but it seems it will never be done. This one is the best I've seen out of mugen and yet its gonna take never for it to be completed. Stop adding characters and Finish up. Thats why games make DLC. Have updates come out with new characters, stages, cards and fix bug.
Yo be honest with you they would have gotten a job from a game company if they would have released it by now  --;
so far this is the most famous and yet its the most unfinished.... I hope they dont quit on it. thats what happens when you work on somwthing for years and it seems to be never going to see the light of day.
 >:D wheres A Dang demo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really want to play this. :whip: hurry up. Tell us whats the deal with twitter or facebook or a dang message in a bottle. something. :( im gonna cry...  :bigcry:
thx for reading  :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Magius on September 13, 2011, 02:28:08 pm
Enough.  Take into consideration that only 2 people are developing this.  And when they have free time.  You are not making it THEY are.  You have no right to rush them.  Quality such as this is very rare.  It is better for them to take their time instead of bumrushing it because of fan demands.  It could take as long as 2012-2013 or longer.  End of Discussion.

Looking forward to the gameplay.  Looking forward to Lenneth Valkyrie, can't wait to see what Einherjar get used.  Crosses fingers for Arngrim.

I was going to mention where are the floating shields but I saw you are using it as a special ability, which I must say is a cool idea.

Again looking forward to this.  Take your time.     
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Fireaver on September 13, 2011, 03:44:46 pm
It was said several times, but I have to say it again - this is best M.U.G.E.N game ever. I love your pixel-art style, card system, characters. I admire that you do this godly work for free... seriously.

Just a question - I dont know if this is possible in M.U.G.E.N, but will you add card gallery in program where you can view cards from yours web? Like when you finish arcade with one character, some cards will open for view in "gallery mode" or so?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Yingyay on September 13, 2011, 11:36:08 pm
This is the only mugen game thats pissing me off  >:( I want to play it but it seems it will never be done. This one is the best I've seen out of mugen and yet its gonna take never for it to be completed. Stop adding characters and Finish up. Thats why games make DLC. Have updates come out with new characters, stages, cards and fix bug.
Yo be honest with you they would have gotten a job from a game company if they would have released it by now  --;
so far this is the most famous and yet its the most unfinished.... I hope they dont quit on it. thats what happens when you work on somwthing for years and it seems to be never going to see the light of day.
 >:D wheres A Dang demo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really want to play this. :whip: hurry up. Tell us whats the deal with twitter or facebook or a dang message in a bottle. something. :( im gonna cry...  :bigcry:
thx for reading  :P

The best part about getting one of ^^THESE^^ messages is that you know the game you're making is gonna be great. lol (As rude as it is)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Magma_Saiyan on September 14, 2011, 12:21:38 am
i dont know why they dont release a demo. i  mean despite not having everything completed, with a game demo of this caliber it can actually hold off people for years and enough time to complete other characters/stages/cards/bugs/bosses? without some rushing demands. i dont care either way really,  just that its been a long time for a demo.

oh and great characters so far(dont who they are but nonetheless their gameplay will surely be amazing)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Yingyay on September 14, 2011, 12:32:42 am
I guess it's more of a completion thing. I know I feel that way sometimes. You want that "Perfect" demo or when you think you have a demo ready you wanna add just one little thing and then it turns into 7 new characters, 5 new stages, 3 new modes, and now you can't release a demo without finishing what you just started lol
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Mateshi on September 14, 2011, 12:38:33 am
Hmm, what happened to the video? Ahruon said it was uploading before he left yesterday, but it still hasn't shown up. (Unless they're no longer using Orkimides's YouTube channel?)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 14, 2011, 12:51:34 am
I'm fairly fine with the idea of it being released all at once. Though the wait is pretty agonizing... As for the video, I figure maybe it was uploaded as private for some reason and has yet to be made visible.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Yingyay on September 14, 2011, 12:59:56 am
It feels like we may get something soon tho. I can feel it (aside from the video I mean)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on September 14, 2011, 01:44:35 am
I'm fairly fine with the idea of it being released all at once. Though the wait is pretty agonizing... As for the video, I figure maybe it was uploaded as private for some reason and has yet to be made visible.
Ahhhhhh now that sucks oh well its there decision for it aim still waiting to see the awesomeness!!!! XD
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 14, 2011, 09:22:30 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8a0YPayEvw

Finally uploaded
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Dope on September 14, 2011, 09:50:20 am
Wow. Just wow. This game is one of the only things to ever make me say wow in a non sarcastic manner. Everything about this project looks amazing.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: maal on September 14, 2011, 09:52:29 am
Now that my goal is accomplished i can finally go to sleep after a day spamming F5 here and on youtube, after watching this video 10 more time.

Walk seem to know what she's doing, gave you a hard time or you were focusing on giving us einherjar? And by no website available... that mean you are dumping the old one?

(Objection! Objections!!)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: smashmusashi on September 14, 2011, 02:41:50 pm
awesome video  as always  ;D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Long John Killer on September 14, 2011, 04:33:04 pm
Objection, conjecture, objecture.

Is it me, or is Lenneth's freeze/arrow attack spammable?  Also, is that Stranger (http://oddworld.wikia.com/wiki/Stranger) that's summoned at 2:35?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Pal on September 14, 2011, 06:24:13 pm
Loved it.

Walkure seems like my kinda character and I think I'm too used to Lenneth's hammy english voice. Just a couple of questions:

I think I saw Sunset (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_A_Live#Wandering) at 2:35, or was it someone else?
Laughed at Phoenix Wright's assist, does he appear with Franziska or is it random between prosecutors?
Is the Versus screen coded in the characters or it's just an intro you do for videos?

Will be expecting next update eagerly, keep up the good job.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: jweezy34 on September 14, 2011, 06:57:43 pm
 :'( *sniff* I LOVE YOU (NO HOMO) LOL
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 14, 2011, 08:27:56 pm
Great stuff! Lenneth and Valkyrie turned out great, with plenty of love from their series apparent. I also think every new assist card I saw was an awesome character. Seeing this today beats out the new character trailers for UMvC3 by a mile!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Magius on September 14, 2011, 08:35:20 pm
Awesome vid. 

The use of Arngrim was beyond AWESOME.  FINISHING STRIKE!  FINAL BLAST!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on September 14, 2011, 10:06:31 pm
ahuron and orkimides you guys are gaming's blessing
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 14, 2011, 10:16:39 pm
For real. At this rate I think I can count the games/characters major to my gaming lifetime that aren't present in some form or another on one hand.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Mateshi on September 14, 2011, 11:46:50 pm
Anyone know who the little magician casting "Rock" is? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8a0YPayEvw#t=2m41s

The other new ones are the boy and dog from Secret of Evermore, Zuhle from the Walküre series, and the Sundown Kid from Live A Live.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 14, 2011, 11:48:34 pm
Brian from Quest 64 I think.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: dennisarell on September 15, 2011, 12:23:14 am
30 seconds into the video... there was an A level assist card that wasn't used but instead converted to the crisis card... was that Leon S Kennedy? OwO

EDIT: I have a few more questions and remarks,

Questions:
The heath ammount/resistence seems to have gone down a considerable amount compared to last videos (the Objection crossfire took out half of Lenneth's heath!), was this just to shorten the video time?
About gameplay, I now just noticed that before the Crisis Card becomes useable the character walks back a little bit. Was that just to guard wile it becomes active or do you have to walk backward in order for the card to become useable?
Characters don't seem to be hitable while they are knocked down (on their back), will this be changed or will it remain as a gameplay mechanic?

Suggestions:
At the end of round two that chunk of ice blocked out most of Walküre during her win pose. Perhaps at the end of the round objects like that ice chunk can disapear? (Not directly after the KO, but at least sometime before the Win Animation.)
The clouds and fog in the background of Soma's Stage seemed rather Stiff and Jumpy, perhaps you can modify them to at least not be so jumpy?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: matt4300 on September 15, 2011, 12:38:05 am
Pretty sure that's not Leon Kennedy... I think I've seen that character before on the old page.   

BTW OMG the last card lenneth gets at end of the last round.... CAPTAIN FALCON!!!!!!!!!!!! Wish we could have seen him. 

I made an account to post this...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: P Dot Alex on September 15, 2011, 01:57:49 pm
I got a simple question I need to have clarified:

Is it true that you're waiting for the next version of MUGEN until you release the demo? Or is there something else stopping you from doing that? Cause as awesome as the videos are, well... how long is that game in development again?

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: -Greed- on September 15, 2011, 05:28:58 pm
I'm more worried that this will get nailed with a cease and desist if it garners too much attention.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Miacis on September 16, 2011, 12:04:02 am
As a great fan of these two characters and their games, I thank you for this video, and the great hommage. :)
I wish I could have seen more of their moves, but hey, that was splendid nonetheless.

I'm more worried that this will get nailed with a cease and desist if it garners too much attention.
Well, if it happens, so be it. There's nothing much that we can do about it, anyway.  :P

Even if a C&D letter was issued, I'm pretty sure that all in all, it was a great gamemaking experience for Ahruon and Orkimides. And a great visual experience for us all.

(I guess there's also the fact that if a compagny threatens them, they can just remove the material related to said compagny and keep the rest instact. Thus keeping the project itself afloat.)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 16, 2011, 10:01:19 am
The heath ammount/resistence seems to have gone down a considerable amount compared to last videos (the Objection crossfire took out half of Lenneth's heath!), was this just to shorten the video time?

I didn't record this one but I think the health was about at 80%. Still it was pretty lucky to Phoenix to hit 4 times.

About gameplay, I now just noticed that before the Crisis Card becomes useable the character walks back a little bit. Was that just to guard wile it becomes active or do you have to walk backward in order for the card to become useable?
? Nope

Characters don't seem to be hitable while they are knocked down (on their back), will this be changed or will it remain as a gameplay mechanic?

I'm not sure what do you mean by knocked down.
I got a simple question I need to have clarified:

Is it true that you're waiting for the next version of MUGEN until you release the demo? Or is there something else stopping you from doing that? Cause as awesome as the videos are, well... how long is that game in development again?

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
I've said many times that we are waiting for the new Fighter Factory to come out before releasing a demo, I don't know why people are saying that we are waiting for the new mugen





Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: P Dot Alex on September 16, 2011, 04:13:54 pm
I've said many times that we are waiting for the new Fighter Factory to come out before releasing a demo, I don't know why people are saying that we are waiting for the new mugen
That's why I asked considering MUGEN doesn't update that often.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Titiln on September 16, 2011, 04:31:25 pm
I'm more worried that this will get nailed with a cease and desist if it garners too much attention.
trailers have been posted in big gaming websites several times already i don't think it's going to get to that point any time soon
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: smashmusashi on September 16, 2011, 07:47:37 pm
what do you need the new Fighter Factory from?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 16, 2011, 11:12:01 pm
I guess I'll try to take advantage of Abysswolf answering questions and ask if we'll get to see the alternate colors or crisis card attacks that we haven't seen for existing characters in a micro update of some kind in the future?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Cazaki on September 17, 2011, 03:16:20 am
MUGEN 1.1 compatibility would be clutch tho.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 17, 2011, 10:38:35 pm
I guess I'll try to take advantage of Abysswolf answering questions and ask if we'll get to see the alternate colors or crisis card attacks that we haven't seen for existing characters in a micro update of some kind in the future?

I don't mind showing anyones alternate colors in particular, I think I did that before. For the CC attacks well, at least I'd like to have some of them hidden until a playable version arrives... but who knows.

Revisions for Etna and Ivy (old-new):

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DRYu5vIFYsk/TnUBtPnPQdI/AAAAAAAAAHE/44OOxfaeLf0/s1600/etnaold.gif)(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5Oqe-RUWT8g/TnUBrGj7u8I/AAAAAAAAAG8/DVW-uNliMiQ/s1600/etnafullstand.gif)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-q4zneqwXNas/TnUBsuhuqgI/AAAAAAAAAHA/SdPfBjw-wZM/s1600/ivyold.gif)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X9IZ9_hlRE8/TnUEoMV8rjI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/E77Q63pzUdE/s1600/ivystand0.gif)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Cazaki on September 17, 2011, 10:42:22 pm
@ Etna
I kinda liked the old one because it looks more like an actual battle stance but okay.

@ Ivy
What.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: F. James Fernandez on September 17, 2011, 10:46:58 pm
@ Etha

I like the old one way better. This new one should just be to an intro animation and call it a day. even a winning pose. New one just doesnt look to go with the whole fighting theme.

@ Ivy

>_>

The new animation looks good but the breast part of it not so much. I know that small sprites like that is a challenge and all but they just look out of place to me lol. I can imagine the reason why you change it was because the first one she looks like a man rather a woman. May be fix the breast on the new on a bit and that should do it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: rukifellth on September 17, 2011, 10:52:53 pm
Er... does Ivys... breast have to be so big? I know they are big but... THAT big?

As for Etna, I agree, her new sprites would work better as an Intro pose. The old one looks much better. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 17, 2011, 11:21:47 pm
Etna's is based in her actual stance pretty much used in every game, old one was one I made up so I don't think I'm changing it.

Ivy well... it's Ork who decided to go with that, I showed him various breast sizes but he went stubborn to don't make anything below that.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Cazaki on September 17, 2011, 11:32:01 pm
It's cool. We aren't the developers, you are. Do whatever you want, we'll still eat it up.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: jailuis on September 17, 2011, 11:41:33 pm
@Etna: Perfect! I have no complains :)
@Ivy: You can go with that size.. But in that stance they look like 2 balls hitting each other o.o... If she's like jumping they would have to go up and down on same direction, I think.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Titiln on September 17, 2011, 11:45:49 pm
ivy's breast size is ridiculous just like in soul calibur so it's an accurate rendition. nice job
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 18, 2011, 12:04:34 am
Yeah, I kinda agree with Ivy's obscenely large breasts being more or less accurate. It may not be pretty, but well, that's the way they are unfortunately.

So you'd be fine with sharing colors? I'm pretty much interested in EVERYONE... How about Walküre? She's my favorite after all.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: HiTehk on September 18, 2011, 12:11:20 am
I dont mind the size of them it's they dont look like they move like flesh.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: vgma2 on September 18, 2011, 01:01:16 am
Etna looks quite good!

Ivy..... they're HUGE! :P

I like how the new character stances have the characters actually stop and do something rather than how the old ones are just bobbing around.

I assume this means you guys are working on Etna and Ivy for the next chars?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Blobox on September 18, 2011, 01:11:42 am
-Etna is good but im looking her a bit small, ok that she is just a girl not woman but she really is a skiny and tall teenager, but her remake is great ;)  :sugoi: and this is just my opinion: she should have her spear upside down close to her back floating behind her  ::) (don't take bad, only in her stance)

-Ivy is good in all the ways but her boobs are a GIANT  :P its just a bit more tiny just a little bit  :)

-and for the last character that u will put i think that should be YOU or ORKIMIDES like boss or chars that would be amazing :o

Saludos desde Rep. Dom. son reconocidos aki  :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Cazaki on September 18, 2011, 01:29:21 am
They already have their custom characters in the game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: RagingThunder on September 18, 2011, 03:41:58 am
Absolutely stellar work, as always.
I can't even imagine how long it took you guys to do the Nivelung Valesti finisher. It looks 10x better than the one in the original game. F**kin' radiant.
Not to mention the accuracy of the skillset these characters have. I havn't played Valkyrie Profile in 5 years but after watching that video it felt as if I played it just yesterday. F**kin' nostalgic.
Great job.

---and on a side note I (personally) approve of the new Etnivy.

Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: vuster on September 18, 2011, 04:45:34 am
The specials in this game are soooo amazingly egagurated like in a super robot wars game( Search SRW Z2 on google then u will see) and im just about amazed at the progress this has shown. Good luck with this project.

"Cough" Take the hint... "Cough"
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

I neglected to say:

Im wouldering what you plan for other battle maps. i checked your stages and it seems like somthing you have already got a nice viarity of em but whenever theres more, do you intend to spoil us?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: vgma2 on September 18, 2011, 10:46:22 am
-and for the last character that u will put i think that should be YOU or ORKIMIDES like boss or chars that would be amazing :o

They already have their custom characters in the game.

I've heard them say they will have themselves (or their original chars.  :P) as playable characters.

But in the FAQ, it mentions how CSW will only have video game characters.

These two statements kinda contract with each other. I'm interested in seeing their final decision.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Mgbenz on September 18, 2011, 02:48:55 pm
I squeed when Arngrim showed up to do Final Blast.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Tortwag on September 18, 2011, 03:35:03 pm
I think Laharl should be in the game too. But that prodject is perfect!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Tortwag on September 18, 2011, 03:35:43 pm
Is there any beta of Card sagas wars? I really want to download it...
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Anthem on September 18, 2011, 03:43:21 pm
Is there any beta of Card sagas wars? I really want to download it...

This question was asked to them a bunch of times and I think the answer is this: "Be patient and wait for the release of FF3."

Which reminds me, what the hell is taking VirtualTek so long with Fighter Factory? -_-
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Palette Jesus on September 18, 2011, 03:47:58 pm
He's still developing it. Be patient.



I want people to stop posting in here asking for beta because it gets annoying. Unfortunately, as the length of this topic grows, this post will get lost like the many others. Then, somebody will register again to request characters to be in the game and then subsequently request a beta.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Master Chief VS Samus )
Post by: Tortwag on September 18, 2011, 03:59:16 pm
Hey, I've got a better idea.

We could either discuss what will they add next or we could stop bumping the fucking thread already.

Wait a sec!!! Why Etna is in the game without Laharl??

Etna is the better character and they're limiting themselves to one character per series in the playable roster.
... Yeah. That's right. I just love Laharl's skills, so...
Any character from the same series ends up as Support or Boss character, this is to increase variety in the roster.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Tortwag on September 18, 2011, 04:02:27 pm
He's still developing it. Be patient.



I want people to stop posting in here asking for beta because it gets annoying. Unfortunately, as the length of this topic grows, this post will get lost like the many others. Then, somebody will register again to request characters to be in the game and then subsequently request a beta.
Yeah, sorry. I started waiting for the game 3 years, so I'm really exited: I REALLY want to test that game^^
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Palette Jesus on September 18, 2011, 04:07:22 pm
Also, don't double post. If you don't know what double posting is, then look it up on Google.com.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Tortwag on September 18, 2011, 04:46:55 pm
Ok^^. No double post.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Palette Jesus on September 18, 2011, 04:52:45 pm
Thank you for your cooperation. :)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: The Phantasm on September 18, 2011, 06:17:45 pm
Wow it's been ages since I last used or did anything relating to Mugen o_O. Anyway, I'm glad to see CSW is still going strong! Will be keeping a closer eye on this from now on!


And since I'm out of the loop, I'd like to know if this is a low res or HR full game?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on September 19, 2011, 03:01:45 am
The sprites are clearly low-res. The effects are another story. Where you talking about the stages?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Titiln on September 19, 2011, 07:23:44 am
The effects are another story.
uhhhh how do you know
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on September 19, 2011, 08:25:43 am
I don't. That's why its another story.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Titiln on September 19, 2011, 04:37:18 pm
you clearly need to stop posting about things you don't know
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: The Phantasm on September 19, 2011, 08:36:08 pm
I was just asking because I'd rather have either all low res (with doubleres=3) or all high res. Well, thanks for answering anyway.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Yama! on September 20, 2011, 04:41:47 am
I've gotta ask; how is balancing for this game working out?  Are you taking a Smash Bros style to balancing and just trying to make the game be fun, or are you trying to make it a legit fighter?  Also, are there any systems in place to prevent infinite combos?  I saw some arrow juggling that looked like it could just keep going during the video, and it concerned me a little.

Also, I know everyone asks questions about the characters, and it probably gets so annoying, but I'd like to know if Dante from Devil May Cry is going to make any appearance.  I don't want to spoil any surprises you have in store, so I don't want to know what he is in the game yet, be it Green Card, playable, or background character, I just want to know if one of my favorite vidya characters is in this at all since I haven't seen him anywhere. 

Also; Beatrice (curious, what does she do in game?) from Umineko is a Green Card; are Visual Novels being accepted as video games?  Or is it limited to Visual Novels that have a real game to their name, like Umineko does with Ougon?

I sincerely apologize for all the questions, and I fully realize you do not have to answer anything, but I am very curious about this project since it is shaping up to be one of the most gorgeous 2D fighters I've ever seen.  Guess you don't need fancy HD sprites to make a game look great, huh?  Keep up the good work, guys!  I look forward to whatever you show next!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: DragonSlayerEX on September 20, 2011, 07:08:23 am
you clearly need to stop posting about things you don't know
I know the sprites are low-res, an I don't know what the effects are. I know what I'm talking about. :P
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on September 22, 2011, 11:19:30 pm
I guess I'll try to take advantage of Abysswolf answering questions and ask if we'll get to see the alternate colors or crisis card attacks that we haven't seen for existing characters in a micro update of some kind in the future?

I don't mind showing anyones alternate colors in particular, I think I did that before. For the CC attacks well, at least I'd like to have some of them hidden until a playable version arrives... but who knows.

Revisions for Etna and Ivy (old-new):
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-DRYu5vIFYsk/TnUBtPnPQdI/AAAAAAAAAHE/44OOxfaeLf0/s1600/etnaold.gif)(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5Oqe-RUWT8g/TnUBrGj7u8I/AAAAAAAAAG8/DVW-uNliMiQ/s1600/etnafullstand.gif)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-q4zneqwXNas/TnUBsuhuqgI/AAAAAAAAAHA/SdPfBjw-wZM/s1600/ivyold.gif)(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-X9IZ9_hlRE8/TnUEoMV8rjI/AAAAAAAAAHQ/E77Q63pzUdE/s1600/ivystand0.gif)

Like always awesome display of art dude i i wish i could learn on how to do sprites.

And like some said i like the old etna better dude but still looks awesome :D
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Mateshi on September 23, 2011, 05:14:00 am
Also; Beatrice (curious, what does she do in game?) from Umineko is a Green Card; are Visual Novels being accepted as video games?  Or is it limited to Visual Novels that have a real game to their name, like Umineko does with Ougon?

How are visual novels not "real" games?

Umineko's not the only adventure game represented, anyway.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Yama! on September 23, 2011, 07:44:25 am

How are visual novels not "real" games?

Umineko's not the only adventure game represented, anyway.

I personally don't believe that visual novels aren't real games, but I hear my share of disputes over whether or not visual novels count as games since they lack gameplay.  So I wanted to confirm if visual novels are being treated as games or something separate.

Good to know that Umineko isn't the only VN series repped, though.  There are plenty of great visual novels out there that deserve it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Mateshi on September 23, 2011, 09:56:10 am
There is gameplay, it's just not "KILL EVERYTHING WHEE" actio--yeah, I can see why some people think that.

Here's all the support characters from adventure games that have been shown so far, if you're interested:


Beatrice
-Appearance(s): Umineko no Naku Koro ni series
Assist:

Blount
-Appearance(s): Goblins 3
Assist: Speedixir

Guybrush Threepwood
-Appearance(s): Monkey Island series
Assist: Cannon Proof

Phoenix Wright & Franziska von Karma
-Appearance(s): Ace Attorney series
Assist: Objection!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 23, 2011, 07:11:50 pm
I've gotta ask; how is balancing for this game working out?  Are you taking a Smash Bros style to balancing and just trying to make the game be fun, or are you trying to make it a legit fighter?  Also, are there any systems in place to prevent infinite combos?  I saw some arrow juggling that looked like it could just keep going during the video, and it concerned me a little.

Also, I know everyone asks questions about the characters, and it probably gets so annoying, but I'd like to know if Dante from Devil May Cry is going to make any appearance.  I don't want to spoil any surprises you have in store, so I don't want to know what he is in the game yet, be it Green Card, playable, or background character, I just want to know if one of my favorite vidya characters is in this at all since I haven't seen him anywhere. 

Also; Beatrice (curious, what does she do in game?) from Umineko is a Green Card; are Visual Novels being accepted as video games?  Or is it limited to Visual Novels that have a real game to their name, like Umineko does with Ougon?

I sincerely apologize for all the questions, and I fully realize you do not have to answer anything, but I am very curious about this project since it is shaping up to be one of the most gorgeous 2D fighters I've ever seen.  Guess you don't need fancy HD sprites to make a game look great, huh?  Keep up the good work, guys!  I look forward to whatever you show next!

I think balance is not really the same as true fightning games but also pretty different from smash bros, so something in the middle I guess.
And Beato is not a green card anymore.


Yeah, I kinda agree with Ivy's obscenely large breasts being more or less accurate. It may not be pretty, but well, that's the way they are unfortunately.

So you'd be fine with sharing colors? I'm pretty much interested in EVERYONE... How about Walküre? She's my favorite after all.

There, though it has an old version of the weapon
(http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/3820/altvalk.png)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 23, 2011, 07:37:12 pm
Awesome, you even got Rosa and Violet in there. I still haven't been able to get my hands on the game/digital comic/thing they're from. Thank you.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 23, 2011, 08:56:47 pm
Actually these were Rosa and Violet :
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7230/rvio.png)


But I dropped them because doing more than 6 alternative colors for all characters is a bit frustrating
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 23, 2011, 09:06:46 pm
Oh, I thought the light purple and red were likely to be them. I know the hair wasn't right for the purple and the red was also likely the red armor you could get in Legend, but it worked well enough for Rosa with the purple one right next to it. Shame the more proper colors didn't get in.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: weretindere on September 23, 2011, 10:52:19 pm
Hi, I was just browsing your site's 'blue cards' section, since I just found out about your game yesterday and was quite impressed, and I noticed #027 'Don Patch' is missing a 'T', #138 'Servbot' is missing a 'B', #371 'Dr. Wily' has an extra 'L' and #385 'Baby Commando' only has one 'M'. I'm not sure if you are already aware of this or just decided to leave it that way intentionally. I apologize if I'm bothering you with trivial details.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 23, 2011, 11:07:55 pm
They can't do too much about it right now since their site's sorta inaccessible to them. s'why it doesn't have the current updates on it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Mateshi on September 24, 2011, 04:27:35 pm
And Beato is not a green card anymore.

Wait, you're saying Beatrice isn't a support character anymore?

(Does that mean she's playable, or was just completely removed?)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Blobox on September 24, 2011, 05:47:28 pm
somebody knows the name of the song in the vid?
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Anthem on September 24, 2011, 06:49:39 pm
Valkyrie Profile- The Unfinished Battle with God

It's a remix of the In-Game Version "Fighting the Shadowy Gods"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnStNZqbEhw
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 25, 2011, 01:07:08 am
Speaking of, does anyone remember if anything was said about any original mixes being used? I'm sure a project like this could attract it if it was asked of that community.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Pal on September 25, 2011, 01:17:57 am
Yeah, they were just gonna use music they saw fit, not caring about original music at all.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 25, 2011, 01:21:31 am
Reasonable enough. I guess I got curious when I suddenly realized that I actually don't know of ANY battle-y remixes (official or otherwise) for Walküre.

It's pretty obvious I'm a bit one-track minded here.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Pal on September 25, 2011, 01:25:37 am
They can always use the in-game music. I personally don't mind. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=719V6P5s4p0)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 25, 2011, 01:34:49 am
True enough. Looking back, Central Highway's music is subdued by comparison to the other themes used but certainly doesn't suffer for it.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: dennisarell on September 25, 2011, 06:21:53 am
On the topic of remixes (if they need any) they couled probably partner up with a composer from OCRemix or a simmilar site. I remember sometime awhile back they where thinking about it.

EDIT: After these next two characters are done they will be a third of the way though the game! WHOOHOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: 1983parrothead on September 25, 2011, 01:41:07 pm
Quote
Q: Can you put XXXX from the YYYY saga?
A: Suggestions are wellcome, but at this point we already decided most of the playable characters.

Well, if you still need more ideas, and if they have to be from major games, then how about including at least one of these characters:

Kunio-kun (Kunio-kun series) and probably Billy & Jimmy Lee (Double Dragon series) - To represent Technos Japan (now Million Co. Ltd.). See also http://www.kunioworld.com/ (http://www.kunioworld.com/)

Hanzou (World Heroes series; don't focus on his NGBC version) - To represent ADK.

Adol Christin (Ys series) - To represent Nihon Falcom.

Hebe (Hebereke series) - To represent Sunsoft. Based on his version from Sugoi Hebereke.

Karnov (Karnov and several Data East game cameos) - To represent Data East. A mixture of his Karnov and Fighter's History series moves.

Either Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury series + others) or Kyo Kusanagi (KOF series) - To represent SNK / SNK Playmore.

Ryuhi (Hiryu no Ken series) and probably Jack & Ryu (Super Chinese series) - To represent Culture Brain.

Hero (Dragon Quest 1) and / or Slime (Dragon Quest series) - To represent the Enix side of Square Enix.

Liu Kang (Mortal Kombat series) - To represent Midway Games.

Gen-san / Hammerin' Harry (Daiku no Gen-san / Hammerin' Harry series) - To represent Irem.

Sho Kamui (Breakers & Breakers Revenge) - To represent Visco Corporation.

Kid Klown (Kid Klown series) - To represent Kemco.

Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tenshi series) - To represent Atlus.

Galivan (Cosmo Police GALIVAN series) - To represent Nichibutsu / Nihon Bussan.

Either Doropie (Magical Kids Doropie), Mania Otorii & Hata Maria (Battle Mania series), or Billy "Big Bang" Blitz (Dengeki Big Bang! / Clash at Demonhead) - To represent Vic Tokai.

Jim (Hydlide series) - To represent T&E Soft.


These should be plenty to choose from.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 25, 2011, 06:58:01 pm
Way to just skip over Koei while you're naming off just everyone. We could TOTALLY use Catalina Erantzo. =P

Seriously though, a few of those companies are covered with green cards or in some other way. Don't worry too much.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Abysswolf on September 25, 2011, 07:38:40 pm
(Those sure are some obscure devs..)

But yeah I need to update the FAQ sometime... since all supports are done and all but one character from my side are decided, I don't think we can take suggestions at this point.

I still have no idea on my remaining character so maybe you guys can brainwash me :P Still that's reaaaaally far away from now, who knows if we end up cutting some characters or something, that's why I insist on no suggesting characters now.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 25, 2011, 07:41:24 pm
I think you just opened the floodgates by saying there's definitely a slot left. I know I'm having a hard time not spouting out a few already. Hopefully everyone can remain as courteous.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Pal on September 25, 2011, 07:48:59 pm
I still have no idea on my remaining character so maybe you guys can brainwash me :P

You just unleashed hell with that line alone.

But if that slot's gonna be filled it has to be Adol Christin, or Yunica Tovah, or Hugo Fukt, or Dogi, or Aisha, or any Ys character so I get an excuse to use Ys music in this game.

Hell, I'm even fine if there's an Ys boss so I get a nice use for Scars of the Divine Wing.

Or God Hand Gene. I would've said Dante but enough of the longcoat bad boy, this game could use some awesome BALL BUSTER.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Yingyay on September 25, 2011, 08:09:35 pm
Isnt Dante a support card already? Im pretty sure I saw that on the main website at some point. I wonder what his support move would be, he has so many moves to choose from O_o
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 25, 2011, 09:36:38 pm
Well that didn't take long. =P Maybe this could be used for the basis of a poll or write-in type of deal.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Yama! on September 25, 2011, 10:59:39 pm
Isnt Dante a support card already? Im pretty sure I saw that on the main website at some point. I wonder what his support move would be, he has so many moves to choose from O_o

I haven't seen that before.  Dante being a Green Card makes no sense, though.  He's got so many moves and so much potential that it would be wasted on using him as a Green Card.

That said, Beato not being a Green Card gives me hope for adding her as a playable character.  Come on, make it happen!
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: dennisarell on September 25, 2011, 11:34:35 pm
Wait, there is still one slot open!?!?

In that case I wouled like to see Marisa Kirisame from the Touhou Seires be added. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utGmwWVq-ck#t=1m25s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utGmwWVq-ck#t=1m25s)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Insane Citizen on September 26, 2011, 01:48:12 am
pliz make goodness /Princess Athena *--* blends well with the game
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100406145716/snk/images/c/ca/Athenangbc.gif)
no one could forget Archer
Mina is perfect
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100515235320/snk/images/f/f7/Minass5.gif)

(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSHUpVQag_-NQXjDD_1zn_BCwXJDadr5sS_LlIsyPheo8CODGqyvKjU7HmHBQ)
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: METALMAXIMAL on September 26, 2011, 01:54:15 am
Wait what about the ones i requested(I know abysswolf dude i know no request) they where from Brutal legend,[prototype], Jack and daxter and Odin sphere dude.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Anthem on September 26, 2011, 02:34:37 am
And now this thread will be filled to the brim with requesting X character in to the game.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: SilentRipper on September 26, 2011, 02:42:09 am
if only they know the amount of work it takes to sprite and code a character... and even more to code and sprite them from scratch O.o, I will be happy if only the game would be released with the characters that already have been done... even if it comes out a year from now or even how long it takes to be completed, good luck with this awesome project its turning out fantastic!! :sugoi:
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Yingyay on September 26, 2011, 02:42:42 am
And now this thread will be filled to the brim with requesting X character in to the game.

yep again lol

I wouldn't mind seeing more of the blue or red cards in another vid tho. Looking at the card gallery (I have no idea who 80% of the cards are) there are so many there im kinda interested on how they work.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: SilentRipper on September 26, 2011, 02:48:11 am
yeah, i saw some interesting effects in there, i personaly liked the "Objection!" effect of Ace Attorney's card, one can only imagine what else could others cards do  o_O
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: worthlessnewbie on September 26, 2011, 02:50:45 am
Which is why it seemed silly to bother trying to list my favorite charz to go into teh gaemzzzz. If there's gonna be user input as to the last character I'm sure that something resembling a more formal method could be done.
Title: Re: Card Sagas Wars ( Lenneth VS Walküre )
Post by: Yingyay on September 26, 2011, 02:52:27 am
Heck, im looking at Team Rocket and Psyduck............awesomely randomly a