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Title: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: GREZZO16 on May 20, 2009, 04:34:29 pm
Hi to everyone

here you are a list of the new mugen-compatible-engines found around the web.
The list was started by Lasombra Demon on RandomSelect forum, and i've done some improvements and copied it on many other forum.
Currenlty we are "interviewing" the author of each engine with some questions, just to make it clear to everyone "how it's going on".
You can find the list on:
- http://randomselect.piiym.net/forum/index.php?topic=5233.0
- http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=23468.0
- http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=98981.0
- http://www.mugenation.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9461

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Closed Source - ShugenDo: ACTIVE (last update/news: 19 Feb 2010)
HOMEPAGE: ShugenDo Official Homepage (http://www.sakirsoft.com/)
FORUM: ShugenDo Official Forum (http://www.sakirsoft.com/forum)
INFO: ShugenDo FAQS (http://www.sakirsoft.com/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=25)
COMPATIBILITY: Windows (now), Linux & PSP (future)


Closed Source - Direct-Xion-Game: ACTIVE (last update/news: 28 Feb 2009)
HOMEPAGE: DXG Official Homepage (http://dxg.thkware.com/)
FORUM: NO
INFO: (7th Jan 2009)
Hi,
First, thanks you for you interesting to my project, but sorry for my english, i am french :-)
1) Mugen compatiblity -  Yes, Direct-Xion-Game will be compatible with MUGEN creations, but DXG isn't a MUGEN clone. I make some programs to allow specific MUGEN files conversion, I also plan to protect the authors by an encryption system.
2) Current status? % done? - I am on this project for a long time, my objective is to finish it before 2010:-). This project is actually approximately at 65 % of his development.
3) Open Source? - I doesn't plan to release the sources for this moment because a company maybe plan to use it for a fighting game. Maybe later i think.
4) plans/features/platform? - General features :
 - Direct3D rendering for best performances
 - Possible 3D object rendering into stages
 - Collisions interaction with chars and stages
 - MUGEN compatibility for sprites, sounds and maybe states
 - Moveable Plugin architecture (graphic, audio, network, input)
 - Other animation approach (rotation, color filtering)
 - Components (sprites, sounds etc..) protected by encryption
 - High Sprites resolution and deph (16 or 32 bits for alpha blending)
 - New states controller and trigger
 - Some tools to make components (sprites, sounds etc..)
 - No English documention avalaible :-(
5) Cooperate/merge with other projects? - Why not ?! :-)

COMPATIBILITY: Windows


Closed Source - Rhakys: DEAD (last update/news: 11 Sep 2008 & Nov 2008)
HOMEPAGE: Rhakys Official Homepage (http://rhakys.free.fr/)
FORUM: NO
INFO: (21st Nov 2008)
1)Still developing Rhakys? - Rhakys is still on hold.  I'm pretty busy and haven't had any time to go back to it.  I still might, in the future, but I don't know when.

INFO2: Rhakys FAQS
COMPATIBILITY: Windows

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- Open Source - Paintown: ACTIVE (last update/news: 24 Feb 2010)
HOMEPAGE: Paintown Official Homepage on SourceForge (http://paintown.sourceforge.net/)
FORUM: Paintown Official Forum (http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/paintown/index.php)
INFO: check homepage
COMPATIBILITY: Windows, Linux, MacOsX


- Open Source - xnaMUGEN: ACTIVE (last update/news: 30 Dec 2009)
HOMEPAGE: xnaMugen Official Homepage (http://code.google.com/p/xnamugen/)
FORUM: xnaMugen Official Forum (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?board=353.0)
INFO: check homepage
COMPATIBILITY: Windows


- Open Source - IKEMEN: ACTIVE (last update/news: 3 Mar 2010)
HOMEPAGE: Ikemen Official Homepage (http://code.google.com/p/ikemen/)
FORUM: Ikemen Official Forum (http://suehiro.white.coocan.jp/)
INFO: (22 May 2009)
1) Mugen compatiblity - This is compatible with about chars, stages and lifebars.
2) Current status? - I am developing.
3) % done? - I just want to fix bugs.
4) Open Source? - Ikemen is Public domain.
5) plans/features/platform? - I have no future plans. Ikemen is a windows-only.
6) Cooperate/merge with other projects? - If I am asked to cooperate.
7) Official Forum? - Only this board. This board can be linked.
8 )C++ runtimes required (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=A7B7A05E-6DE6-4D3A-A423-37BF0912DB84&displaylang=en)
COMPATIBILITY: Windows


- Open Source - FEO, Fighting Engine Online: DEAD (last update/news: Dec 2007 & May 2009)
HOMEPAGE: FEO Official Homepage (http://code.google.com/p/feo/)
FORUM: FEO Official Forum (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=72818.0)
INFO: (26 May 2009)
1) Mugen compatiblity - Yes, my engine will compatible with mugen characters. The engine will load all the mugen file formarts. A convertion tool will only needed for the cns format if the project is not fused with another project.
2) Current status? - Im currently working on it.
3) % done? - My engine is focus on online playing instead of making a clone engine of mugen wit addition effects features. So far i have finished the online playing system about 80% percent with network simulation.
4) Open Source? - Yes, it is open source. I plan to release the source files once i get a stabe online version.
5) plans/features/platform? - Right now the main priority of engine is a playable version with a game lagtency between 0 ms to 400 ms
6) Cooperate/merge with other projects? - I already talk with the creator of xnamugen and he agreed to let me port his engine to c++, win32, and directx and make it online playable.
But I am developing my own engine right now focus on the net, once a online stable version is done ill decide to fuse it or not.
7) Official Forum? - Right now, all I have is the google code portal , but in the futureI I'll have my own website. http://code.google.com/p/feo/
8) Next Release? - I am planning to release the first "demo" online playable in this june. --> nowadays (Mar 2010) nothing happened
COMPATIBILITY: Windows


- Open Source - Infinity Cat: DEAD (last update/news: 11 Aug 2008)
HOMEPAGE 1: InfCat Official Homepage (http://sourceforge.jp/projects/infcat/wiki/FrontPage)
FORUM: InfCat Official Forum (http://sourceforge.jp/projects/infcat/wiki/FrontPage)
HOMEPAGE 2: SofiyaCat Blog (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/SofiyaCat/)
INFO: check homepages
COMPATIBILITY: not tested

- Open Source - JMugen: DEAD (last update/news: 30 Aug 2009)
HOMEPAGE: JMugen Official Homepage (http://code.google.com/p/jmugen/)
DOWNLOAD: http://jmugen.googlecode.com/svn/
COMPATIBILITY: Only tested with Windows
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Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines!
Post by: ultimatedude on May 20, 2009, 04:37:23 pm
Hmm, I havnt heard of a few of these, might check em out

btw, Fighter Maker 2nd is also another fighting game engine
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines!
Post by: Cybaster on May 20, 2009, 04:41:25 pm
He's talking about Mugen Clones (with additionnal features) rather than general fighting making engines, otherwise, there'd be a ton more listed in here.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines!
Post by: ultimatedude on May 20, 2009, 04:43:01 pm
hmm, i see, either way, i always wanted to give xnaMUGEN and ShugenDO a try, but living in this era without any pixel shaders isnt quite good.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines!
Post by: WooshaQ on May 20, 2009, 11:07:27 pm
Wasn't InfinityCat canceled?
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines!
Post by: Bastard Mami on May 20, 2009, 11:15:21 pm
lol, ikemen.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: GREZZO16 on May 21, 2009, 02:17:27 pm
Update
21st May 2009
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: GREZZO16 on May 24, 2009, 05:24:13 pm
Update: FEO is now ACTIVE, because 2 post from "becoolnike" in a thread on MugenGuild revealed us he is working on a playable version (called "demo") just in those days.
24th May 2009
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Messatsu on May 24, 2009, 09:02:41 pm
JMugen http://code.google.com/p/jmugen/
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: GREZZO16 on May 25, 2009, 09:59:15 am
@ Messatsu of Jmugen
Hi and thank you for your contribute but Jmugen is already listed.
byee

@ everyone
25th May Update: Ikemen author answered at few questions: i've uploaded his answers.
bye
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: becoolnike on May 26, 2009, 01:09:27 am
My project is still live and it is  focus on online playing rather that adding new effects features.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: felineki on May 26, 2009, 01:16:42 am
InfCat's not dead. (http://d.hatena.ne.jp/SofiyaCat/searchdiary?word=%2a%5b%cc%b5%b8%c2%c7%ad%5d)
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Lasombra Demon on May 26, 2009, 06:02:35 am
I'm sorry, but that page doesn't say much to me, even with Google Translator. :p

Byaaaakooooo...?

I'ld kill for the contact info of SofiyaCat, so I can mail him and get fresh news on InfCat.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Messatsu on May 26, 2009, 08:15:41 am
Babelfish says that a Sea Urchin is managing the game.  I'd say the Infinity Cat is 100% on the right track then.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: GREZZO16 on May 26, 2009, 10:38:49 am
@ becoolnike
Hi, i'm very pleased to talk with the creator of FEO.
I've send an email at the address written in your profile with some questions about your engine: I'll be so grateful if you can send me the answers so i can "spread the (good) word" about your engine.
and what about the googlecode homepage? are you still using it? last update is from 2007.

@ felineki
Thank you so much for your infos but i've some problems with jap (my girlfriend is studing it, but she is only at the first year :D) and i can't find how to write at SofiaCat with the "interview questions" about his/her project. can you help me with this? i can send you the questions by PM.


@everyone
this idea of setting up an updated list of all the mugen-compatibile-engines all around the world was started by Lasombra Demon on Randomselect, and then i decided to give my help.
Anyone who wants/can help this "project" is welcome.

byeee
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Byakko on May 26, 2009, 03:43:10 pm
I'm sorry, but that page doesn't say much to me, even with Google Translator. :p

Byaaaakooooo...?
Basically on 04/28 he was trying to have a look at shaders, and working on palettes and textures on which he's having troubles applying one to the other. He'll need to work on HSV<->RGB conversion, color inversion... Stuff that shouldn't be hard. But since he made several attempts on that, if he still can't get it right, he'll give shaders a try.

I don't really see any contact information.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: GREZZO16 on May 26, 2009, 05:55:24 pm
@byakko
Hi Byakko and thank you to have shared with us important details about InfCat.
Some days ago i've written an email at the address on infcat sourceforge page, but i've not received any reply to it.
i'm wondering if you can "give" him the following text:
Code:
Hi
i'm GREZZO16, a long timed Mugen player and i've just discovered your project: building an engine from scratch it should be an hard work.
Me and LasombraDemon (another mugen-fanatic) are working to build a list of the new engines Mugen-Compatible
 currently in development: you can see the current list on the following threads:
- http://randomselect.piiym.net/forum/index.php?topic=4954.0
- http://www.infinitymugenteam.com/Forum_345/index.php?topic=23468.0
- http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=98981.0
- http://www.mugenation.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9461
 
So, I'm here to ask you some questions, like an "interview", to improve the list and to "spread the word" about the projects.
 
Are you ready? here you are the questions
 
1) Will your engine be compatible with MUGEN creations (chars, stages, screenpack, etc)? Maybe with a converter tool?
2) Is you engine currently (end-May 2009) in development? Or you have stopped it?
3) What % would you say is done, so far?
4) Is your engine OpenSource? If not, are you planning to release the source code sometime?
5) What are the main features you plan this to have? Will be multi-platform?
6) Would you cooperate with other fighting engine projects? Maybe fuse/merge your project in/with other, if you'll have the chance?
7) Have you got an official site and an official forum for you project? If yes, would you link them us? If not, would you have one?
 
thank you for your attention
 

byeeeeee

thank you for your help.

byee




UPDATE: i've just updated the list with new informations about InfCat and the other forums.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Byakko on May 26, 2009, 07:07:21 pm
He speaks English. There was an entire section for InfCat, exactly like Shugendo and XNA. It went down when the InfCat site went down & SofiyaCat stopped working at some point, then when he resumed working, he apparently didn't come back here and didn't update the English part of his site, so the section here didn't return.

And I have no more idea about how to contact him right now as you do, why would I. I just said I couldn't find any contact info on his blog. Of course his blog seems to allow comments, but I haven't checked if they are indeed activated.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: becoolnike on May 26, 2009, 08:37:10 pm
@ becoolnike
Hi, i'm very pleased to talk with the creator of FEO.
I've send an email at the address written in your profile with some questions about your engine: I'll be so grateful if you can send me the answers so i can "spread the (good) word" about your engine.
and what about the googlecode homepage? are you still using it? last update is from 2007.

@ felineki
Thank you so much for your infos but i've some problems with jap (my girlfriend is studing it, but she is only at the first year :D) and i can't find how to write at SofiaCat with the "interview questions" about his/her project. can you help me with this? i can send you the questions by PM.


@everyone
this idea of setting up an updated list of all the mugen-compatibile-engines all around the world was started by Lasombra Demon on Randomselect, and then i decided to give my help.
Anyone who wants/can help this "project" is welcome.

byeee



I replied your email already. 
I haven't update the google code portal recently because i dont see the need for it. Altought I have made huge changes to the engine since one year ago. Ill update the portal this june with something worth ( a online playable version).


Thanks for asking
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: GREZZO16 on May 27, 2009, 10:37:06 am
@becoolnike
Thank you for your answers: i've just uploaded it

@ everyone
Update
27th May 2009
- added more interviews
- added few more details for each project
- fixed links
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: GREZZO16 on March 02, 2010, 10:08:40 am
updates are coming

stay tuned

EDIT: YEAH NOW IT'S UPDATED
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Jarek Bachanek on March 03, 2010, 11:18:58 pm
Thanks for info.

Direct Xion Game and Paintown seems promising. Ikemen might be interesing considering it's open source :P
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: DNZRX768 on March 04, 2010, 04:11:25 am
Hmm...

I might give them a whirl once I have some free time in my hands.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Mewtwo on March 04, 2010, 11:38:09 pm
I'd be more interested if any of them have Tag Teaming like in MVC.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Xinos on March 07, 2010, 10:58:36 pm
Anyone got Ikemen working? I honestly have no idea how to get this thing started :/

If anyone has, can they tell me how to get it working? Thanks.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: FrozenDelight on February 12, 2011, 06:43:54 pm
Only just found out about ikemen from another thread, interesting! Hmm, it seems to have Netplay, but I guess it doesn't work, because if it did, I guess ppl would be ranting about it everywhere I looked.

Anyone got Ikemen working? I honestly have no idea how to get this thing started :/

If anyone has, can they tell me how to get it working? Thanks.

I just downloaded it from here (clicked on ver.2011);

http://homepage2.nifty.com/oriheus/ikemen/

Then uncompressed it and ran the EXE, it worked fine.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Jesuszilla on February 12, 2011, 07:24:35 pm
Yeah KFM's been working on adding various updates to IKEMEN. New consts, making width/height a pushbox, and I think right now he's increasing the amount of variables. Aokmaniac's also helping with improvements to the CLSN system.


The BIG feature here you guys need to keep in mind is that IKEMEN is open source. The problem is getting in contact with the author.

http://randomselect.piiym.net/forum/index.php?board=55.0
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: FrozenDelight on February 12, 2011, 07:28:30 pm
Yeah KFM's been working on adding various updates to IKEMEN. New consts, making width/height a pushbox, and I think right now he's increasing the amount of variables. Aokmaniac's also helping with improvements to the CLSN system.


The BIG feature here you guys need to keep in mind is that IKEMEN is open source. The problem is getting in contact with the author.

http://randomselect.piiym.net/forum/index.php?board=55.0

Do you by any chance know how to make the stages zoom in and out?
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Jesuszilla on February 12, 2011, 07:37:38 pm
You need to set zoom to true somewhere and define a minscale and maxscale. If I knew where the documentation was I could probably look it up.

As for joypad support, yeah, it needs some SERIOUS improvement.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: FrozenDelight on February 12, 2011, 07:51:57 pm
You need to set zoom to true somewhere and define a minscale and maxscale. If I knew where the documentation was I could probably look it up.

As for joypad support, yeah, it needs some SERIOUS improvement.

Yeah, I'm using JoyToKey at the moment. Yeah trying to find the zoom options, harder than I thought. ADDED; Ah, think I found it, its in config.ssz which is in the ssz folder;

const bool Zoom = false;
const float MinScale = 5.0 / 6.0;
const float MaxScale = 15.0 / 14.0;

I changed it to true. It's actually one of the first things I did, but it crashed, I must have just made a stupid typo. This config doesn't seem to appear until after you run the EXE for the first time, btw.

Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 13, 2011, 03:22:52 am
In mty perspective, open source engines are the thign ot use while making full games, but ofr vanilla mugen elecbyte's original version is still your best bet.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Shamrock on February 13, 2011, 03:31:57 am
A little off-topic, but I thought Ash was closing Random. Anyone know if that is true? One reply please, don't want to go off topic and I don't want to start a whole thread for it.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 13, 2011, 03:49:28 am
kinda because it's almost dead, but handsome guy resurrected the interest in it.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: FrozenDelight on February 14, 2011, 07:58:59 pm
I'm really liking Ikemen, surprised there doesn't seem to be more interest in it. I've been posting about it on Random Select, but the thread seems a little dead.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Navana on February 14, 2011, 09:37:30 pm
When I try to run IKEMEN it says that MSVCP00.dll or something can not be found.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Cyanide on February 15, 2011, 06:35:16 am
You need the C++ runtimes installed, added to first post as well but

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=A7B7A05E-6DE6-4D3A-A423-37BF0912DB84&displaylang=en

for your convenience.
Title: Re: The Future? New fighting engines Mugen-compatible!
Post by: Jesuszilla on February 15, 2011, 07:01:02 am
I'm really liking Ikemen, surprised there doesn't seem to be more interest in it. I've been posting about it on Random Select, but the thread seems a little dead.
It's mostly there for development purposes.