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Posted by Rabite
in Creators appreciation Part 2 *POLL* (Started by AiRiC June 08, 2009, 12:59:31 pm
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If that was directed at me, you obviously don't know my backstory. Anybody that knows me pretty much expects that kind of a reply from me. But if you're going to say something to someone try actually saying it instead of hiding behind a pretty pretty little picture. Also your avatar thing is stupid.
Posted by Rabite
in Creators appreciation Part 2 *POLL* (Started by AiRiC June 08, 2009, 12:59:31 pm
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Why are there any Brazillians on this list, but no Bia? She's the only Brazillian to ever make anything good. And I don't just mean in MUGEN. I'm just saying that stealing other people's work and having buggy characters is pretty much synonymous with Brazillian creators. I don't recall where vyn is from, but his Evil Ryu seems to fit the pattern of buggy/broken characters. So I'll just toss him in with the Brazillians.
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March 15, 2009, 02:35:48 am
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in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Due to lack of interest we have decided to remove Eagle from the roster. The replacement has not been decided upon yet but will eventually be announced. We apologize to anyone who is disappointed, but the person who was going to sprite him took a leave of absence and will not be back. In his place we have a talented spriter who despite his busy schedule knows what he's getting into. Once again we apologize for the inconvenience. Have a nice day.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Now with teaser video.
January 30, 2009, 08:49:20 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Does this get out quick?
No... it'll never be released. 
It's not like we've released 3 versions of this game already, with the latest build being linked in this very thread...
We'll only release this "update" when we feel that we added enough to warrant a new release.
Now please, take your vaporware insinuations out of here. Unlike most of those full game wips out there, we already have a quite stable version out, and there's only going to be another release because we felt that we could do more.
Have a happy day... 
OKEY
My ram.(to fun 
) 
Please stop using babelfish. That or finally pass 3rd grade English. Either way is fine with me.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Now with teaser video.
January 30, 2009, 06:25:27 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Does this get out quick?
Yes it get out quick. Unless you have a shitty connection, then it get out slow.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 11, 2009, 10:07:56 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Also I'm working on a movelist with general move properties (e.g. this move knocks down and can be cancelled into xxxx). This should be ready to be included with the next version. Though I am lazy so I have no actual idea when it'll get finished. It will be up to date with the released version.
But an FAQ on .92 would give you a decent headstart on all the updating you'll need for the next version, so I'd keep going. There's a lot of stuff I don't think people will know can be done so it'd be quite helpful to have some actual documentation.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 10, 2009, 10:34:33 pm
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in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Truth is, they're not really being removed
Good, that saves me a plane ticket to go to his place to bash his face if he was responsible for their removal. 
Really? Damn I just got word they've been removed again.
Anyway, it's nice to know (since I haven't seen it yet) that all the chars have been revamped. Knowing the quality of the previous releases, it's really hard to imagine how this game could become "so much better", as it is already one of the few full games which is really solid, with a very combo-able while being very technical gameplay. It's original, has nice graphics (yeah, this old style NES style with particle illusion FX is nice to me... makes me think about good old times), etc.
You will not believe how different it is now. Some of the changes are so major they almost aren't the same characters any more. This is specifically true for Chun Li.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 10, 2009, 09:34:01 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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just, no 'Evil/lonely/depressed/emo Ryu' please? XD
There isn't, there wasn't, there will NEVER be evil Ryu in this game. NEVER.
SSJ5 Ryu on the other hand...
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 10, 2009, 07:54:31 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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As for Akuma/Gouki and Sheng Long/Gouken... well, balls to whatever anyone has said, they play totally different in SF2NES and I've had a lot of fun playing with them.
All in all, please keep up the good work with this project. You've made an old-school SF player happy with this. 
Aw, someone actually defending the god characters. Truth is, they're not really being removed. I said that to shut Vegeta up since he was being so pigheaded. They're both still in and they're both still the bosses after Bison. Sheng Long in fact has had a pretty major revamp to downgrade how overbearing he was. He's still overbearing... I'd say more so than Akuma still, but a lot less abusive. It makes it less likely that the AI can completely destroy you.
Thanks for your interest in this game, we hope you'll like the next release. It's really shaping up to be the biggest improvement between two versions of anything I've ever seen in MUGEN. Some of the characters got so many changes it's like they aren't even the same character.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 09, 2009, 04:20:41 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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The SF2NES team have decided that the poll shows exactly what everybody feels. We've also decided to say fuck it to the democratic process that brought us Bush for 8 years and now it's brought us to the point where people have actually voted for something with no knowledge of what they were voting on. I tried multiple times to get people to at least have a slight inkling of what Honda was like before they voted, to no avail. We HAVE however decided to not outright delete him. We will be considering what little feedback we did get (thank you PotS and whoever else actually offered suggestions) and see how he works after the suggestions have been put into effect. He is still being removed though, and will be available as a separate character. There will be a new character added in Honda's place but we will wait until we're ready to announce said character.
If you have any complaints I do wish to remind you of a couple things. First, it's our game to decide what's best for balance and playability. Second, you had every chance to actually test the game and see what we were working with (it's called Google people, try it sometime). Finally, to all those who voted for Honda's removal we promise to do our best to make sure his replacement is better suited than he is.
Thanks for your time everybody. And remember: Sheng Long and Akuma are NOT the same character. Nor will they be in the final game. Have a nice day.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 09, 2009, 02:47:19 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Actually once he stops telling us to remove a character he apparently knows nothing of, I'll stop bothering with him. He's already caused the removal of Akuma and Sheng Long. Since they're apparently the same character it won't matter.
Edit: Wow I have been registered here a long time. I still miss MUGEN Dev though.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 09, 2009, 02:39:47 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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The problem with that isn't just the fact that he's not knowledgeable about the games, it's that he's telling us to remove a character from a game we're working on and arguing facts he doesn't even have correct. And he told us 3 times to remove something I doubt he even touched to see if they played differently from each other.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 09, 2009, 02:26:48 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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No, Sheng Long != Gouken. The rumor that started the S. Long thing led Capcom to put "Sheng Long" (i.e., Akuma/Gouki) in Super Turbo/X.
You sir are an idiot and a failure.
Edit: To expand upon this, I will tell you how it started. EGM (RIP) around the time of the release of SF2 in the US published a way to fight Ryu/Ken's master Sheng Long. This was the start of their April Fools joke tradition (not the tradition in general just when they started doing it). Many people believed it because they used the quote Titiln quoted above as proof that it was what Ryu meant. However this was the Chinese translation for Shoryuken (or Dragon Punch in English). However, Ryu/Ken/Dan's master was actually Gouken. Thus continuing with that pattern Sheng Long is Gouken for all intents and purposes.
Edit #2: In fact they even updated the April Fools joke a couple years back for SF3:3S which Akuma was present in. Now what?
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 09, 2009, 12:38:51 pm
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Posted by Rabite
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thank you
I meant in general though, i remember you got mad because i didn't know who was in the game 
Actually I got irritated because people were voting and didn't know what they were voting for. Similar to how Bush got in two times in a row.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 09, 2009, 12:20:19 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Please, can you post a link to the game so everyone who has not played the game can test it out? Or maybe just a list of he existing characters?
you can't get angry at people because they don't know, or at least you shouldn't. 
If you mean about SF2NES in general I'll provide one in a minute or 10.
If you mean about Sheng Long and Akuma, it's general knowledge since part of Akuma's past is that he KILLS Gouken (Sheng Long). So he screwed it up for everybody. I'll be posting a picture of the updated select screen later on to show they're missing.
Edit #1: http://sf2nes.smeenet.org/game/sf2nesmidi.rar
Edit #2: 
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 09, 2009, 11:49:02 am
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Dan Tier:
Dan
Now THAT'S funny!
Though Sheng Long is rather vestigial. Seriously, Akuma/Gouki and S. Long are the same freaking guy, cut one of them out.
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=92021.msg807025#msg807025
Please read this before you repeat yourself again.
Update: Due to your gross incompetence and general lack of knowledge of what you're talking about we're removing Akuma AND Sheng Long. Remember the thank the nice person everybody.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 09, 2009, 10:14:17 am
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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I'm back...
I really dont think honda is as bad as people are making him out to be... and i definately don't see him to be anywhere as bad as dan....
Honda to me plays like a more defensive/stronger version of chunli.. but it's been awhile maybe i need to check again.
Honda may be low tier but hes not bottom tier.... I feel more that blanka is still bottom tier as apposed to honda.
That's because of how much everybody else has improved. Honda is so far the only one without any improvements since that version. Dan got like 3-4 new moves. Chun Li got revamped. Ken is capable of doing good damage finally. Ryu is now FIRMLY top tier. Sagat and Guile both got better. Sheng Long got weakened by quite a bit so he's not longer high god tier. Akuma got bumped up. Balrog got a bunch of new moves.
Edit: Even with all that taken into account Chun is WAY too high on the list, as is Ken. They both don't do anywhere near enough damage with their single hits or combos. Haggar is either bottom top tier or high mid tier. Where's Dhalsim? He's also top mid tier.
Edit #2: MAJOR CHANGES SPOILERS:
Many level 3 supers have been either changed or replaced. Ryu got Shin Shoryuken as a regular super plus his SF3 thrust kick. Chun went from charge character to command moves to better suit the faster pace of the game (akin to what happened in the VS games). Ken's Shippu Jinrai Kyaku gained a SHITLOAD more hits and he gained Burn Knuckle (trust me it helped him a lot). Bison's ground flame super does more hits. Blanka gained his slide and his vertical roll now hits on the way up and down. Sheng Long's special versions of Ryu/Ken's supers got weakened and moved to new commands. Guile got a new Flash Kick that acts like the one in SSF2T:HDR and ends his punch flurry super with a Flash Kick. Balrog got some new moves that help him out a bit. Akuma's super where he punches the ground does multiple hits for less damage (akin to the actual version in SF3:3S). Dan... Christ, where to start with him... Sagat got his 7 hit Tiger Blow from SFA and throws more than his current 3 Tiger Cannons for his current level 3. There's more but I don't want to spoil all the fun. However Honda has yet to get one single improvement. We can't figure ANYTHING out for him. He already has all the moves he should have. He's got power, but he's boring as shit to play.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 06, 2009, 04:20:09 pm
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Seriously, do something about Sheng Long. He's redundant.
That's already been fixed. And it wasn't redundant, it was fucking abusive as hell. Redundant would be if he were just a plain shoto, he was a god tier character over the other god tier character (Akuma). Though it is nice to see someone actually tried it. I really wish you people could see how much improved the game has gotten, but there's so much left to do it'd be a shame to show it half-finished. You'll see what I mean by that eventually. But don't hesitate to give suggestions. We do pay attention to valid points.
Edit:
A good idea would be to replace Sheng Long (you have Akuma and S. Long in the same game, they are the same guy) with someone else. Like Urien, as I'd like to see how you SF2NES-ize an SF3 character.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA They aren't the same character. Sheng Long is more or less supposed to be Gouken (to summarize his background). Akuma is Gouken's Brother. Thus both of them appearing in SF4.
Also Sean is already in from SF3.
I didn't realize until I re-read the topic that you were somehow under the assumption that Akuma and Sheng Long are the same person. That's rich. I thought you were saying they played too much alike (thus my initial confusion), but this is far funnier. Thanks for making my day far brighter.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 06, 2009, 10:34:39 am
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 am
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Ok so Honda is winning by a landslide. That means you people have not only played the game but have suggestions on how to make him viable. I'm really interested to hear them.
Also note that just because Honda could be removed does not mean that it's no longer SF2NES. Basically playing as him right now is like taking all specials away from Dan and putting him in KoF98. Everybody else (even Dan) works the way they are. I really won't mind people voting for Honda if they can justify keeping him by offering ways to fix him. But he's like the anti-Cable.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 05, 2009, 06:44:06 am
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Let me guess, none of you ever played it. It kinda makes having a poll on who should replace Honda seem kind of... pointless. I mean people posting who should be in the game without even knowing if they're already in it? What the hell is wrong wit... oh wait I forgot where I am. I'm sorry. Please resume your meaningless existence of telling people how great their overpowered, boring and ugly characters are.
Posted by Rabite
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Re: SF2Nes. Now with yet another not so teasing teaser video.
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 amBoard: Projects
Does this get out quick?
No... it'll never be released.
It's not like we've released 3 versions of this game already, with the latest build being linked in this very thread...
We'll only release this "update" when we feel that we added enough to warrant a new release.
Now please, take your vaporware insinuations out of here. Unlike most of those full game wips out there, we already have a quite stable version out, and there's only going to be another release because we felt that we could do more.
Have a happy day...
OKEY
My ram.(to fun
) 
Please stop using babelfish. That or finally pass 3rd grade English. Either way is fine with me.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Now with teaser video.
January 30, 2009, 06:25:27 pm View in topic context
Posted by Rabite
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Does this get out quick?
Yes it get out quick. Unless you have a shitty connection, then it get out slow.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 amBoard: Projects
But an FAQ on .92 would give you a decent headstart on all the updating you'll need for the next version, so I'd keep going. There's a lot of stuff I don't think people will know can be done so it'd be quite helpful to have some actual documentation.
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 amBoard: Projects
Truth is, they're not really being removedGood, that saves me a plane ticket to go to his place to bash his face if he was responsible for their removal.
Really? Damn I just got word they've been removed again.
Anyway, it's nice to know (since I haven't seen it yet) that all the chars have been revamped. Knowing the quality of the previous releases, it's really hard to imagine how this game could become "so much better", as it is already one of the few full games which is really solid, with a very combo-able while being very technical gameplay. It's original, has nice graphics (yeah, this old style NES style with particle illusion FX is nice to me... makes me think about good old times), etc.
You will not believe how different it is now. Some of the changes are so major they almost aren't the same characters any more. This is specifically true for Chun Li.
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 amBoard: Projects
just, no 'Evil/lonely/depressed/emo Ryu' please? XD
There isn't, there wasn't, there will NEVER be evil Ryu in this game. NEVER.
SSJ5 Ryu on the other hand...
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Posted by Rabite
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As for Akuma/Gouki and Sheng Long/Gouken... well, balls to whatever anyone has said, they play totally different in SF2NES and I've had a lot of fun playing with them.
All in all, please keep up the good work with this project. You've made an old-school SF player happy with this.
Aw, someone actually defending the god characters. Truth is, they're not really being removed. I said that to shut Vegeta up since he was being so pigheaded. They're both still in and they're both still the bosses after Bison. Sheng Long in fact has had a pretty major revamp to downgrade how overbearing he was. He's still overbearing... I'd say more so than Akuma still, but a lot less abusive. It makes it less likely that the AI can completely destroy you.
Thanks for your interest in this game, we hope you'll like the next release. It's really shaping up to be the biggest improvement between two versions of anything I've ever seen in MUGEN. Some of the characters got so many changes it's like they aren't even the same character.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
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Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 amBoard: Projects
If you have any complaints I do wish to remind you of a couple things. First, it's our game to decide what's best for balance and playability. Second, you had every chance to actually test the game and see what we were working with (it's called Google people, try it sometime). Finally, to all those who voted for Honda's removal we promise to do our best to make sure his replacement is better suited than he is.
Thanks for your time everybody. And remember: Sheng Long and Akuma are NOT the same character. Nor will they be in the final game. Have a nice day.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
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Edit: Wow I have been registered here a long time. I still miss MUGEN Dev though.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
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Posted by Rabite
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No, Sheng Long != Gouken. The rumor that started the S. Long thing led Capcom to put "Sheng Long" (i.e., Akuma/Gouki) in Super Turbo/X.
You sir are an idiot and a failure.
Edit: To expand upon this, I will tell you how it started. EGM (RIP) around the time of the release of SF2 in the US published a way to fight Ryu/Ken's master Sheng Long. This was the start of their April Fools joke tradition (not the tradition in general just when they started doing it). Many people believed it because they used the quote Titiln quoted above as proof that it was what Ryu meant. However this was the Chinese translation for Shoryuken (or Dragon Punch in English). However, Ryu/Ken/Dan's master was actually Gouken. Thus continuing with that pattern Sheng Long is Gouken for all intents and purposes.
Edit #2: In fact they even updated the April Fools joke a couple years back for SF3:3S which Akuma was present in. Now what?
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
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Posted by Rabite
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thank you
I meant in general though, i remember you got mad because i didn't know who was in the game
Actually I got irritated because people were voting and didn't know what they were voting for. Similar to how Bush got in two times in a row.
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Posted by Rabite
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Please, can you post a link to the game so everyone who has not played the game can test it out? Or maybe just a list of he existing characters?
you can't get angry at people because they don't know, or at least you shouldn't.
If you mean about SF2NES in general I'll provide one in a minute or 10.
If you mean about Sheng Long and Akuma, it's general knowledge since part of Akuma's past is that he KILLS Gouken (Sheng Long). So he screwed it up for everybody. I'll be posting a picture of the updated select screen later on to show they're missing.
Edit #1: http://sf2nes.smeenet.org/game/sf2nesmidi.rar
Edit #2:
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 09, 2009, 11:49:02 am View in topic context
Posted by Rabite
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Dan Tier:
Dan
Now THAT'S funny!
Though Sheng Long is rather vestigial. Seriously, Akuma/Gouki and S. Long are the same freaking guy, cut one of them out.
http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=92021.msg807025#msg807025
Please read this before you repeat yourself again.
Update: Due to your gross incompetence and general lack of knowledge of what you're talking about we're removing Akuma AND Sheng Long. Remember the thank the nice person everybody.
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January 09, 2009, 10:14:17 am View in topic context
Posted by Rabite
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I'm back...
I really dont think honda is as bad as people are making him out to be... and i definately don't see him to be anywhere as bad as dan....
Honda to me plays like a more defensive/stronger version of chunli.. but it's been awhile maybe i need to check again.
Honda may be low tier but hes not bottom tier.... I feel more that blanka is still bottom tier as apposed to honda.
That's because of how much everybody else has improved. Honda is so far the only one without any improvements since that version. Dan got like 3-4 new moves. Chun Li got revamped. Ken is capable of doing good damage finally. Ryu is now FIRMLY top tier. Sagat and Guile both got better. Sheng Long got weakened by quite a bit so he's not longer high god tier. Akuma got bumped up. Balrog got a bunch of new moves.
Edit: Even with all that taken into account Chun is WAY too high on the list, as is Ken. They both don't do anywhere near enough damage with their single hits or combos. Haggar is either bottom top tier or high mid tier. Where's Dhalsim? He's also top mid tier.
Edit #2: MAJOR CHANGES SPOILERS:
Many level 3 supers have been either changed or replaced. Ryu got Shin Shoryuken as a regular super plus his SF3 thrust kick. Chun went from charge character to command moves to better suit the faster pace of the game (akin to what happened in the VS games). Ken's Shippu Jinrai Kyaku gained a SHITLOAD more hits and he gained Burn Knuckle (trust me it helped him a lot). Bison's ground flame super does more hits. Blanka gained his slide and his vertical roll now hits on the way up and down. Sheng Long's special versions of Ryu/Ken's supers got weakened and moved to new commands. Guile got a new Flash Kick that acts like the one in SSF2T:HDR and ends his punch flurry super with a Flash Kick. Balrog got some new moves that help him out a bit. Akuma's super where he punches the ground does multiple hits for less damage (akin to the actual version in SF3:3S). Dan... Christ, where to start with him... Sagat got his 7 hit Tiger Blow from SFA and throws more than his current 3 Tiger Cannons for his current level 3. There's more but I don't want to spoil all the fun. However Honda has yet to get one single improvement. We can't figure ANYTHING out for him. He already has all the moves he should have. He's got power, but he's boring as shit to play.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 06, 2009, 04:20:09 pm View in topic context
Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 amBoard: Projects
Seriously, do something about Sheng Long. He's redundant.
That's already been fixed. And it wasn't redundant, it was fucking abusive as hell. Redundant would be if he were just a plain shoto, he was a god tier character over the other god tier character (Akuma). Though it is nice to see someone actually tried it. I really wish you people could see how much improved the game has gotten, but there's so much left to do it'd be a shame to show it half-finished. You'll see what I mean by that eventually. But don't hesitate to give suggestions. We do pay attention to valid points.
Edit:
A good idea would be to replace Sheng Long (you have Akuma and S. Long in the same game, they are the same guy) with someone else. Like Urien, as I'd like to see how you SF2NES-ize an SF3 character.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA They aren't the same character. Sheng Long is more or less supposed to be Gouken (to summarize his background). Akuma is Gouken's Brother. Thus both of them appearing in SF4.
Also Sean is already in from SF3.
I didn't realize until I re-read the topic that you were somehow under the assumption that Akuma and Sheng Long are the same person. That's rich. I thought you were saying they played too much alike (thus my initial confusion), but this is far funnier. Thanks for making my day far brighter.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 06, 2009, 10:34:39 am View in topic context
Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 amBoard: Projects
Also note that just because Honda could be removed does not mean that it's no longer SF2NES. Basically playing as him right now is like taking all specials away from Dan and putting him in KoF98. Everybody else (even Dan) works the way they are. I really won't mind people voting for Honda if they can justify keeping him by offering ways to fix him. But he's like the anti-Cable.
Re: SF2Nes Honda replacement topic: Vote in a new character!
January 05, 2009, 06:44:06 am View in topic context
Posted by Rabite
in SF2Nes - Zangief teaser. (Started by Bea January 05, 2009, 02:39:42 amBoard: Projects