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Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 16, 2012, 05:22:26 pm View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
What Byakko suggested will work and was my next suggestion.

So it can be simplified as:

Triggers: Final round, full power; more if required, such as near death
P2 Triggers: less than 25% health

Perform attack, and it'll basically be one giant cutscene. Fans get their movie. And the stoned to dust moment.

Everyone wins.
    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 16, 2012, 04:24:15 pm View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
The Final Atonement move concept is incredibly stupid and doesn't work on a normal gameplay basis. With the exception of satisfying people I see no reason to include such a feature, as Byakko points

Add it as a joke button or something that deals 50% damage, but will instantly kill you. So people would never use it, or only use it for roleplay purposes.

There is just no right "gameplay" way for this to work. Additional ways where it could be incorporated into an average "Street Fighter" style character that I can think of include:

1 - Use it, if it misses/blocks/fails to kill, you'll be fine, but you lose your power bar
2 - Use it, if it misses/blocks/fails to kill, you'll be weakened significantly and will have to play harder to win the fight
3 - Use it, if it misses/blocks/fails to kill, you die, but get replaced by another Z2 character at 25% health (ok this is stepping into transformation boundaries) &gt;_&gt;
4 - CPU only attack (?)
5 - To use this attack, you must activate a mode to do so. You can only activate this mode at 50% health or lower, at full power and once you go into the mode (sound familiar?) you will lose your power bar, and your health will rapidly drain until you perform the attack. At the same time you are limited in what you can do besides the attack

    

Re: Super Saiya-jin Goku Z2: video added!

 November 16, 2012, 09:43:51 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in SSJ Goku Z2 (Started by Balthazar August 09, 2012, 08:24:01 pm
 Board: Projects
I HAVE ENTERED THE ARENA :beam:
    

Re: New DBZ Movie (NOT LIVE ACTION)

 November 13, 2012, 09:48:41 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in New DBZ Movie (NOT LIVE ACTION) (Started by Rozay August 14, 2012, 11:33:42 am
 Board: Entertainment
Fine, but at least back up why :P
    

Re: New DBZ Movie (NOT LIVE ACTION)

 November 12, 2012, 12:12:33 pm View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in New DBZ Movie (NOT LIVE ACTION) (Started by Rozay August 14, 2012, 11:33:42 am
 Board: Entertainment
You mean that new one based on a fan manga (apparently) ?

Shit.

Concept is good (well, bardock is badass), but then you saw the villain and it's WAAAAATTTT

Seriously, movies 1-13 had good villains, even if it was somewhat rehashed (Turles, Slug, Freeza). By good, I mean "threatening". Dr Wheeler and the guys in Movie 13 were a nice change of things. Especially Movie 13 being a slightly dramatic take on the DBZ world instead of the usual fighting.  Even all carnations of Buu were somewhat disturbing, especially 20 years ago. (The funi dub removes any sort of threat to the initial showing of Buu though, thanks to the high pitched voice). It's ironic now, but we've grown up with that. GT gave us Baby Vegeta, Super 17 and Omega Shenron (a couple of other dragons were also somewhat cool) but was let down by very un-DBZ likish fights.

<< Time skip forward >>

Then you got that anniversary special with those 2 retard looking things.
Then you got this "Lord Chill" and its absolutely dumb/unthreatening look.
And now we have a bunny fused with some egyptian god.

You see why I said this movie will be shit at the beginning? I accept that none of us would know how it would turn out until we see it, but I'm banking on that this would not be as good. This is not to say I hate/dislike DBZ, I love that shit, I grew up with it, and nor am I trying to be unpleasible.

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Random point to make regarding Gohan + his SSJ

The initial poster here looks like his unlock :P



So I too was surprised to see him SSJ haha.
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Pseudos are too mainstream said, November 12, 2012, 12:03:54 pm
ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ said, November 12, 2012, 11:16:27 am
Wasn't Vegeta in his Cell Saga armor in that "dbz anniverary special" ?


Well I understood from this that Vegeta was wearing a training outfit in the buu saga which makes sense. In these two movies, he is ready to go fight so he wear his armor.

Ya that makes sense, sort of. Or they got too lazy to draw the armor on. /shrug

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Still, it's good that we got 2 DBZ things to look forward to in 2013. Movie 14 and ...



It's in post production (check out the related videos) and is out quite soon now. Next "long" trailer is in December =)
For those that don't know, this is a professionally fan made movie (has this been posted anywhere on MFG?) using live actors who all basically do martial arts. It is going to be free as far as I know.
    

Re: New DBZ Movie (NOT LIVE ACTION)

 November 12, 2012, 11:41:46 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in New DBZ Movie (NOT LIVE ACTION) (Started by Rozay August 14, 2012, 11:33:42 am
 Board: Entertainment
Fair enough :P

I don't make a big deal out of it either. I just love the spirit of it. So I jump in. Like a Blood Knight =)

Definition
Fighting is everything to the Blood Knight. He lives for it. He might deliberately disadvantage himself in order to make fights last longer, and loves to reveal that he is not left-handed. It's not so much winning or losing, morality, the motives of his allies, or even the glory, that drives this guy so much as the opportunity for a good fight.

Replace fight with discussion and I guess there we go. :P
    

Re: New DBZ Movie (NOT LIVE ACTION)

 November 12, 2012, 11:16:27 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in New DBZ Movie (NOT LIVE ACTION) (Started by Rozay August 14, 2012, 11:33:42 am
 Board: Entertainment
Wasn't Vegeta in his Cell Saga armor in that "dbz anniverary special" ?

Byakko: And you wondered why people argued to the point of obnoxiousity (I don't think this is a word ...) on Majin Vegeta Z2. THIS IS WHY! :beam:

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I wonder if it's possible to fake a poster like this.
    

Re: Super Saiya-jin Goku Z2: Palette Template added!

 November 09, 2012, 09:18:26 pm View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in SSJ Goku Z2 (Started by Balthazar August 09, 2012, 08:24:01 pm
 Board: Projects
8/10

-2 for crappy GT music, as fitting as it is. :P

at 00:51 is it possible to continue the combo like you shown previously? You blew Vegeta into the wall and just stood there.
    

Re: Progress

 November 09, 2012, 06:10:42 pm View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Progress (Started by Neocide January 23, 2011, 06:31:53 pm
 Board: Dragon Ball Allstars
For Trunks, you can steal his JP voices from other sources, mainly, Ky Kiske from Guilty Gear X ... they have the same voice actor :beam:

Going home now, will see if I got the rips already ripped, or whether I'll need to find my rom and rip them. Will update you later if I can or cannot.

G.o.D seems to have you covered though, but I'll try =)
    

Re: Progress

 November 09, 2012, 12:50:02 pm View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Progress (Started by Neocide January 23, 2011, 06:31:53 pm
 Board: Dragon Ball Allstars
Ah ok.

Ultimate Battle 22 provided 2 sets of voices (an alternative one for mirror fights) totalling probably 40 samples overall. A few sound the same but the others are more like variants. The intro/outro voices are also included in this rip.

If you got access to XCB's 18 he also included several of the same in the SND file. Otherwise you''ll need to wait until I get home and go through the external disk to grab them.

Current "voices" from very recent games might prove better but I'm not sure. It's very much the same anyway, overall.
    

Re: Progress

 November 09, 2012, 11:32:51 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Progress (Started by Neocide January 23, 2011, 06:31:53 pm
 Board: Dragon Ball Allstars
From what game? if it matters.

I'm using Ultimate Battle 22's voices for my 18 at the moment. Is that good enough or do you need TEHANMSKEKAKHAICHI BULAJKADOAKI 3 voices?

Saying that, it sounds like you got english voices? Where do you get them these days lol. I'm stuck in 2001 with JP voices only.
    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 08, 2012, 01:18:30 pm View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
Are you Byakko? I can't think of anyone else that's French and been around for the same time as me. :beam:

I think Byakko was French, at least.

EDIT: oh crap you are haha

I couldn't work out how to view real user names but then accidently hovered over your name and the tooltip shot up. :bucktooth:
    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 08, 2012, 09:13:49 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
The driving episode was amazing.

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Did I say anything about the manga? Didn't bother following it considering the anime was canon. (just some  standard liberties were taken.)

Sorry, it was me who mentioned it. Although I'm not a specific "canon argument" person, I mentioned it because there will be flocks of people willing to prove us wrong by bringing up the manga :beam:

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I think you guys are a little going off topic. Who cares if he was SSJ2 or SSJ in his majin form ? this wont change a think to this Z2 Character.

A high quality vegeta is being made. Everything must be right for when it is released 1000s more people flock in here and go OMGGG NO M etc =)
    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 07, 2012, 01:18:17 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
xPreatorianx1 said, November 07, 2012, 12:47:58 am

Um, at least in the anime Majin Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku were absolutely equal. Goku and Vegeta make several comments to that effect during their fight that leads up to Buu's resurrection. As Vegeta achieved SSJ2 by becoming Majin. He couldn't obtain it otherwise. Just like (even tho it isn't canon) he had to use artificial means to achieve SSJ4. The only form(s) he achieved by himself were SSJ and USSJ. Which to be honest are technically the same thing. USSJ is just the bridge between SSJ and SSJ2.

To this day and age I also think the same, but apparently (despite being extremely ambiguous) he actually uses SSJ2 while fighting Super Buu and Kid Buu, but in the anime there's no SSJ2 reference, but apparently in the manga, there is.

Still, a moot point I guess. I agree with you. But there are swarms of fans waiting to disagree. Hey ho :S
    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 02, 2012, 05:10:48 pm View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
Doesn't matter, they're working on Goku :beam:

Balthazar said, November 02, 2012, 01:03:23 am
There's no update since we've put the focus on SSJ Goku for a while.

Plus, we're technically brainstorming. Large amounts of stupid can create something good!
    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 02, 2012, 12:07:18 pm View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
It's cool I'm not taking it seriously, I'm just arguing to the people who are determined to precisely detail or label what features/stuff this Vegeta Z2 would have lol

This is quite a fun sport.

That reminds me I gotta change my readme for the Vegeta I randomly made. Currently I labelled his Big Bang Attack as "Bwig Banana Attaa!" (because that's how some voice clips make it sound like).
    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 02, 2012, 09:10:57 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
In the anime it was used 3 times I thought ... 1 against Recoome. His hands were clearly stretched out in the same pose.

Or did the games/wikia give it yet another name? Might go take a look ...

EDIT: FOR FUCKs SAKE THEY DID  :disappointed:


http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Crash

    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 02, 2012, 01:02:35 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
Wait, I thought they had to have the same letter for both words :( ... anyways, nevermind lol. Guess we had our fun.
    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 02, 2012, 12:54:56 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
Iced King said, November 02, 2012, 12:47:06 am
Vegeta never used any move more than once in the show and manga.  The only time he used repeated moves was in the movies.
Final flash, used once, big bang attack, used once, galick ho, used once, flameball of doom, used once, etc.
I always saw it as part of his personality to just make up flashy names for what he was doing. That we are all used to big bang and final flash and etc its because of the games cementing some of the moves. =P Up until the butoden games, trunks moves were nameless as well.

I believe somewhere it's mentioned by the creators that they wanted Vegeta as an "alien" type character, or to demonstrate he's not from Earth, so they gave him "exotic" move names which were English, basically, to distinct himself from the rest of the cast that "wow, he is not from around here, this is probably cool!"

I'll dig out the source tommorow at work.

C.A.N'd said, November 02, 2012, 12:54:26 am
FREAKY FRIDAY!
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Saturday doesn't have a matching one I think ...
    

Re: Majin Vegeta Z2

 November 02, 2012, 12:50:45 am View in topic context
avatar  Posted by 「ⒻⓊⒸⓀⓎⒺⒶⒽ」  in Majin Vegeta Z2 (Started by Balthazar October 29, 2012, 02:20:10 pm
 Board: Projects
WANKING WEDNESDAY !!!
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