SNT said, July 12, 2014, 03:17:17 am

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There's NOTHING wrong in it!

Germany won the their last WC Cup 24 years ago. In the finals vs Argentina.
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Also note it's not the 1st time he was banned. The difference between the time he was allowed back last time and this time is that you wasn't around (active?) the last time.

It's exceptionally hard to get perma banned here. And he even came back from that!

Kyoudou Senna said, July 12, 2014, 01:19:48 am

Then, if he didn't fall for a troll, why did he agree with the op?

His ban has nothing to do with who he was agreeing with. He was banned because he gushed insults at someone just because he didn't agree. It's completely irrelevant that this happened in a particular topic, which may or may not happen to be a troll. It doesn't matter if it was a troll, and it doesn't matter that LM was agreeing with him or not. He was banned for the insults.
You're starting from calling the topic a troll, you say Mav "fell for it", and you act like it's relevant. But it's not. It has nothing to do with the fact that Mav started insulting someone for disagreeing with him, and it has nothing to do with the ban that followed those insults. It just happens to be the particular topic where it took place. But the insults are not related to the troll, and the ban is not related to the troll either, or to Mav agreeing with a potential troll. He didn't need to throw insults like that. Mav didn't get banned because of the troll. No one even cares if the topic was a troll or not.

Kyoudou Senna said, July 12, 2014, 01:19:48 am

I'm not interested on what happened in the past.

Then you're the one who don't get it, because you're completely ignoring the entire fact that he was on probation.
You say you don't care about the past, but the fact is that no one cares that you're not interested in the past because it's exactly the past that matters. And it matters a lot. If you say you're not interested in it, then you're the one who's missing the entire point of the probation. Everyone else IS interested in the past, and they're completely right to be interested in the past. If you're not, then you're wrong. Because it was the very condition for which he was allowed to come back in the first place. He broke that condition, so his right to come back is revoked, which means he's back to a permaban. If you're not interested in that, then you're just plain wrong, there's just no other way to put it.

Kyoudou Senna said, July 12, 2014, 01:19:48 am

but I'm seeing this going too far because of you guys using the past excuse. I'll say it again, since you don't seem to get it. I'm not interested on what happened in the past. I'm interested on what happened now, and I still feel he was an unwitting scapegoat for a troll's own fun

Let's sum it up :
- The whole point of the probation is that all of Maverik's actions and posts are judged based on his past actions. You can say all you want you're not interested in the past, it doesn't change the fact that everybody is judging him on his past actions, because that's how criminal justice works. You usually don't go to jail for stealing a bike. However, you can go to jail for stealing a bike if it's the 50th time you've been caught and are on probation. You can't judge someone for stealing a bike and say "I don't care that he already stole 500 other bikes ! I will only judge his present crime aka he just stole a bike, this doesn't warrant jail !!!"
- The troll thing has nothing to do with the ban. The reason Maverik is banned is because he started insulting Umezono. All the rest is secondary.

Kyoudou Senna said, July 12, 2014, 01:00:08 am

So, if someone's fool for falling to a troll's tactic deserves to be banned permanently for that? That's a flawed logic, you know?

... What you say has absolutely nothing to do with anything that happened. He didn't fall for a troll, and he didn't get banned for siding with a troll. Don't say he's a victim of someone else, don't say he was fooled, and don't say it's why he was banned.

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Besides, from what I see you just quoted for me, you didn't seem to bother to read the rest of my statement on why I consider this permaban undeserving.

That's a baseless thing to say. Just because I quote only one sentence of your post, doesn't mean I didn't read the rest. It means I'm summing it up and I don't want to quote the entirety of your post. Not to mention that the rest of your post didn't actually shed any light on that particular line I quoted, you're just questioning Rajaa's judgement and his position as a mod. Well, aside from your belief that Maverik fell for a troll, but that's just plain wrong. So like I said, just because it's what you think, doesn't mean it's true, and also, you're wrong.

Bastard Wolf said, July 11, 2014, 11:41:43 pm

Basara-Gorath said, July 11, 2014, 10:17:21 pm

If isn't LM, at least is someone else

i think he meant to say "it isn't LM, at least is someone else" and just made typo

No, almost all hispanic people forgot to put "it", I've seen a lot of cases here.

"If it isn't LM, at least it is someone else"
Learn from here guys.

B_____________________ said, July 11, 2014, 09:55:09 pm

this community is shit anyways

I would like to know why.
Also "ban me please" is stupid, log out and never come back.

Another thing, how about you address all the stuff said in this topic and answer them in a civil manner instead of posting YOLO or swag without a reason? Because you make yourself look like a retard.

Kyoudou Senna said, July 12, 2014, 12:33:28 am

That insta ban seems too excessive for me and uncalled for.

Just because you think it is, doesn't mean it actually is, and it doesn't put a bad light on whoever took the decision. And you're wrong.

It was going to happen, and anything else would only have resulted in the exact same thing happening again later down the line. You wanted a shorter ban ? Congratulation, this is happening again 7 months from now. He gets yet another tight leash to add to his collection ? 5 more months and we're all right back on the exact same spot.

It's positively terrible that people go in circles so much, so often, so easily. When does it just not happen and when does everyone else get a chance to go 7 months without this happening again ? Is it okay as long as we can still just ban him knowing he's on a tight leash ? Then that's just never going to be okay for everyone else.

Again, MAVERIK is a special case. He was on probation, and he failed the terms of that.

I do kinda agree with this. It's just there's no variety for like releases or just something fresh and new. We have seen a lot of releases like Ryu, Akuma, Kula, K', Goku, Naruto, Batman, anime  school girls that we don't give a crap, Last Blade chars and so on.

Why can't they make more out of a obscure games like Fight Fever, Perfect Soldiers or any other Fighting characters, so we get to learn to more about them. That's what i call variety fighting games other then Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat.
Also no one has made a character from Battle Beast, a old pc dos fighting game. Why not them? What do you guys think of that?

Tell me how many Batman chars you can find in Mugen.

Does this support 1.1?