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Re: community rules and considerations. changes needed everywhere...

 September 13, 2007, 02:37:43 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in community rules and considerations. changes needed everywhere... (Started by SlayerGatsu September 13, 2007, 12:12:21 am
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just for discussion sake... can i have a list via Pm of such people?
(plus is it not correct to say that if they are part of the thing and are allowed to use the stuff ? (a thing which btw i never said... the things produced do need to have a page of credits... Naturally... and people not obaying that would be excluded))

i agree to the other comment, but apparently this whole community did not bofore the recent changes, and i know at least 10-20 authors that do not agree to that... and would get pissed if stuff is used without authorization... ... ..
however it would be nice to achive such a unanimouse declaration would it not?
    

Re: community rules and considerations. changes needed everywhere...

 September 13, 2007, 02:13:13 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in community rules and considerations. changes needed everywhere... (Started by SlayerGatsu September 13, 2007, 12:12:21 am
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massatsu.. what do you mean by a test like that?
a test like that is vage, a test, if well made, can be challenging to everyone in the communty... expecially by how differently one can do things that work alike... ...
IMO the ability of someone to pass a test would mean much difference from being a thief and being a someone who learned from other people code like we all learned from KFM...

well as for valodim... yes, maybe your right, hence it's a hobby is kind of stupid, but right now anyone can call them self creator, steal code and host it somewhere where he won't be bothered... and it happens... so i dunno... maybe is not that stupid afterall
the only other way would be to make all creations Open-Source, and i doubth anone would agree to that... whych IMO is a more stupid idea, or at least unpractical...
ps: would you lke to help me develop Monkey Island project for mugen? (mostly coded already) is a sword figher insult driven ;)

snake the god thing ould be covered
well ok.. yes people would feel more confident, but it's to these people that mugen owes it's development, and to this people the community owes something... (respectby chance?)
and it is a requirement that IF you are a part of this "thing" you allaw everyone else (that passed the test) to use your stuff...


anyways if you guys think it's not going to work... might as well stop it here no?
BUT...  do you have any different proposal?

and how would everyone agree about making all chars created BEFORE 2005 opensource? (unless the autor comes back and says NO)?
that way all leechers would be able to leech more XD kidding aside, maybe we give this comunity more room to expand..
    

community rules and considerations. changes needed everywhere...

 September 13, 2007, 12:12:21 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in community rules and considerations. changes needed everywhere... (Started by SlayerGatsu September 13, 2007, 12:12:21 am
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First of all... thanks to seep and blackjack for unbanning my account or to whoever else did it...

There is a couple of things I’d like to say, and a couple of ideas I’d like to propose.

please note that I’m NOT here to speak about/of mugenation, I’m here as a simple creator (because believe it or not, I’m a creator of quite a bit of characters...) I do not intend to Troll around, and I do not intend to speak to people who just want to flame at me because of who I am/what I say.

This topic is for the ones that care enough to read it, and it's not ment to offend anyone, any person or thing.
Is more like a refined brainstorming of mine about what I think should happen between all the authors and creators of the mugen community. Any comments are welcome as long as they don't flam or insult obviously.
I would really care to know Blackjack's opinion e any mugen creator's opinion as well.

Very well, allow me to start…
It is translucent to everyone that the mugen community is changing everywhere, not for good or for bad, we cannot say that for sure, but it's changing and that is a fact.
elecbyte is maybe returning, probably not, but still that is a fact too and we have no knowledge of it so we cannot say anything in regards about it until some proof is given of either option.

what this topic is about is a thing that many disregard, which if we want, is also what elecbyte probably wanted to happen... alas we have no real proof of either... but if we take KFM as a proof (the character) we can clearly see elecbyte will to create something Open to everyone, something open for everyone to look at and use.

Elecbyte in a certain sense was going towards an Open-Source movement which would help develop a community. We as creators disregarded that and choose to make every one of our creations OURS, and for no one else to use. (Not all creators ok... but many do so, and I’m one to do so myself at least since Gill was released.)

This discussion wants to be a piece of mind for all of those who would like to see this end.

In my thinking I came up with a few ideas that should be able to make our community more "open" in a certain sense.

Here is where I come from:
Anyone that can work with computers anywhere in the world should know that an A+ certification is needed to be hired from almost any location... well to some extent my idea is to rearrange our community so that before "creating" something we need to have an "a+" certification. (Long story short...)

You might ask: how is that achievable?

Well... my complex idea is really not that complex at all...
Every author, before being allowed by any community to release his works publicly should obtain a "mugen programmer certificate".
This certificate is given by answering a multiple choice test studied to determine your programming skills, so that no one in the community would have to accuse anyone else of Thievery.

Here is why it SHOULD work:
As a matter of facts, the institution of such a standardized test (with variable answers changed every day naturally) would allow all the participants to be considered Creators by all the other creators.
This would also allow for creations to be Open-Source to other creators, and to the public.

it's kind of complicated for me to explain HOW this happens, it's not logical, is more like a rule that every author has to abide in order to take the test, and it is a responsibility that he has to give to be part of the mugen community in full especially as a creator.
Every creator recognizes that another person who passed the test is as much a creator as he is, and allows whoever to take and use his material for to create/better his own things, and allows him to actually release it without any kind of needed authorization.

Theoretically, in the mugen community, the people who are entrepreneurs and point to expand the width of the community are the creators (of ANYTHING mugen related.)
Many times creators fight amongst them self, or hate each other for no reason, or whatever... they just don't get along... this hurts the community and I for one think it needs to stop once and for all. Of course I’m not such a pompous ass to be the one to say that I will make it stop. This needs to be a community effort, and effort that all the mugen community or most of it decides to accept as "not good for the community otherwise".
many a times, new creators are beaten down until they give up... from negative feedback, insults, accusations or whatever... the point is WHY does not even matter, many n00bs that would like to widen their horizon are seldom not allowed to do so.
The creation of a "standardized" test (so to call it) would allow anyone the same chance to get into the community with full blown "creator rights". It would allow everyone to have the same position in the community, equalizing a new creator to an ancient creator that has created stuff for long years. It would allow for interaction, and expansion of the community to never as high programming levels.
Consider the fact that anyone can use anyone else material...
hypothesis: so a newbie comes along and decides to use elyking codes in combination with (whoever you consider to be the best author currently on the mugen scene), coding and sprites to create a better character with more smart code of his own of course.
As is, the person would be just flamed upon because he has no right to do so without authorization from both people and he would be considered a thief, BUT what if he actually learned something and created something really good from this?
It’s here a standardized test helps everyone (at least it's my theory...)
If the newbie here spoken passes the test and become to the eyes of all community a creator, other creators would not have a reason to flame him. They would be sure that at least SOME work inside the new chars is His WORK, and that he knows enough to pass the test and become a creator, so he does not want or desire to STEAL code, he just wanted to learn more/make something better.
I for one think that that should be allowed, and I also believe that many will not agree with me, but that this resolution is good enough to at least give it a try and see what happens, if more people become creators.
There are rules and regulation I formulated that I will post if asked to do so/if anyone thinks this is a good idea.

Thanks for reading and please don’t start a useless flame war.

    

Valodim's Thread

 September 23, 2005, 10:02:32 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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why Dump them and not Delete them may I ask ???
(meaning thattey require however a hell of toomuch space to be kept O_o
and in the deeper dump they serve no pourpose what so ever...  ???
    

Valodim's Thread

 September 23, 2005, 09:27:27 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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lol :p well i had no clue that it was in the deeper dump :P
it's the fuel cost discussion thing right? the reference was in another topic made by a user As If he could actually read it O_o
that's why I asked  ;) (that topic was dumped as well i guess... can't find it no more O_o :P)
    

Valodim's Thread

 September 23, 2005, 03:50:31 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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i have a question... whatever happened to this?
http://www.mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=30334.0

it seys it's Off limit altough i can't find a moved topic tag O_o (to dump or deeper dump)

for the smilies well... 5+3= *counts with finger* 8... so... :P

make it so that mousehover disables image

image = color = foreground, Tile to cover spoiler size (a tile of 1 pixel???)

that's all really...

basically you hide the text and stuff with an immage which disappears once you mousehower on it :P
(and it CAn be done in Php :P (the last one i'm sure) )
    

Re: How to make a Cheap KO?

 September 11, 2005, 10:18:57 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in How to make a Cheap KO?  (Started by SlayerGatsu September 11, 2005, 10:02:49 am
 Board: Code Library
ho well That one it's Sf3 related... a simple punc...
statedef 171 it's not a common state, and expecially IF you are making your OWN character it's a Good start,

In kfm standards GetHitVar(damage) < 10 it's MORE then enough!

For 'editors' that edit the chars they have for personal use, Plan to use a state that it's not used and that it's in the 200-400 range

@BJ: so edit the code to act among anims 120. 121, 122-130, 131, 132, 140, 141, 142 (for Newbs Using a Anim = [120,142]  should be more the good)

the entire thing will then work ONLY when you block and die :P
    

How to make a Cheap KO?

 September 11, 2005, 10:02:49 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in How to make a Cheap KO?  (Started by SlayerGatsu September 11, 2005, 10:02:49 am
 Board: Code Library
So... really easy at first glance...
Set up the statedef which you want to be the "cheap Ko" one
I often use 171, since there aren't many other Time-up animations and 170 it's still about losing...

So well we set up the statedef, write the anim, the Nothitby like in the statedef 170
And A CHANGESTATE

this changestate

Code: 
[State 171, Last]
type = ChangeState
trigger1 = AnimTime = 0
value = 5150

in case you are wondering; statedef 5150 = Laying dead state....


Now the state it's set lets move to the statedef -3 and make it so that it will work 8)

Very well so...

[statedef -3]

and here we place a Changestate, With a particular trigger to get the state changed...

Code: 
trigger1 = Gethitvar(damage) <= 30 && LoseKO = 1 && Anim = 5030

now let us explain...

Gethitvar(damage) <= 30 indicates that the enemy attack was somewhat cheap (make the value less to make it cheper)

LoseKO = 1 tells the state to change Only IF you have died

Anim = 5030 it's the anim often showed when you are just ding and start to fly in the air (Kfm standards -and Mine as well-)

Now, if you actually try... it will remain Sloppy... what is it? Hell the Slow-Motion!
Sure let's get read of it and get the body to DROP dead as it should!

to do so, Always in the [statedef -3]
activate the assert special with this trigger
Code: 
trigger1 = Gethitvar(damage) <= 30

this it's because the assert special MUST be activate ALWAYS if you must disable the slow-motion, yes it will disable the slow-motion of Ko's if you get less then 30 damage, BUT you will also go in the cheap ko state so there should not be any problem....

For Dummies
Yo there.... what u didn't understand?? What Copy paste Works better?
Well If you say so... Hell just copy paste then...

The statedef:
Code: 
;------------------SlayergGatsu Ceap Ko----------------;
[Statedef 171]
type = S
ctrl = 0
anim = 171
velset = 0,0

[State 171,2]
type = NotHitBy
trigger1 = 1
value = SCA
time = 1

[State 195, 3]
type = ChangeState
trigger1 = AnimTime = 0
value = 5150

and this Goes in the stetedef -3
Code: 
;-----------SlayergGatsu Ceap Ko Activation----------;
[State 170, Go To Ceap Ko]
type = Changestate
trigger1 = Gethitvar(damage) <= 30 && LoseKO = 1 && Anim = 5030
value = 171

[State 171, No slow on Ceap Ko]
type = AssertSpecial
trigger1 = Gethitvar(damage) <= 30
Flag = nokoslow
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Now here are the rules:
If you don't copy paste, I need no credit; you would have done it with some reasoning in the end

If you copy paste then leave the things how I wrote them.

That’s all B) Enjoy you 5 minutes earned from this code that you should have coded, and remember, It’s offered by SlayerGatsu  ;) 8)

Ho and It reminds me :P the code it’s Open Source, So if someone wants to make it better here below he is more then welcome 8)
    

Re: Making character SFFs universally compatible

 September 08, 2005, 02:44:24 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Making character SFFs universally compatible  (Started by Winane July 04, 2004, 07:39:50 am
 Board: Tips, Tricks, Tutorials
for a fast thing you can align the pics in mcm, then extract all the coordinates, and by the correct pics you can Re make the sff with sprite maker, So it shall always be perfect
(And what I believe the utility will do.... THUS the picks will be extracted as they are and IF they are corrupted then they are corrupted.....  :()

Btw, Winmugen’s Kfm has the images sorted by number --;
    

Re: Making character SFFs universally compatible

 September 07, 2005, 07:07:21 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Making character SFFs universally compatible  (Started by Winane July 04, 2004, 07:39:50 am
 Board: Tips, Tricks, Tutorials
I might as well Add, that Dos mugen WILL NEVER have any problems at all in
Reading a "PERFECT" sff file.

FOR an sff file to be "perfect" you MUST follow the numbers, OR ELSE, why would have elecbyte MADE group numbers?

MOREOVER, IF you plan to insert Unshared images in an sff THEY have to be LAST. (possibly AFTER 9000,1 )
and No other Indexed images should be place after them.

why?
well it's easy, the palettes of the sprites set in the "middle" will "crack"
you will see and get messed up images when you try to reopen the sff file (unless you extract with sff2pcx (or something better ^^)

so the First image (as logic says) NEEDS to be 0,0

THE PROBLEM that many of you are concerned about it's constant... SORT out the sff with Mee
(
I will soon try and make a better thing ONLY for
a. extract (pcx and text)
b. SORT (the text blocks)
c. Remount the sff
in a VB script Exe where you drop the sff.
The images of group # 9000 will be set to #,1,2 automatically and you will be "advertised" if any images are placed after that So that you can edit the text. (maybe the prog will also open the text at the right point :o and allow to edit before continuing)

Please Ideas (are already many) but are fully welcome, let's try to get me to make something actually useful  ::)
    

Valodim's Thread

 September 06, 2005, 02:09:09 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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hey Ok for the 2F2F spelling but...
Quote
Bj soliduma.... you guys are talking about 2 dofferent thing?

BJ: is it  the pic only?
Su: are you including the text?

you guys are talking about 2 different things...

Black Jack:   is it  the pic only?
Soliduma:    are you including the text?

kind of fixed XD  --;
    

Valodim's Thread

 September 06, 2005, 01:16:55 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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Bj soliduma.... you guys are talking about 2 dofferent thing?

BJ: is it  the pic only?
Su: are you including the text?
    

Valodim's Thread

 September 06, 2005, 01:10:27 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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M.U.G.E.N. releases are more important than local Forum rules :P

dang this preview thing...
You went haead of me mister...

YES they are  ;)
    

Valodim's Thread

 September 05, 2005, 08:53:40 pm View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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ONLY IF you use it  :o B)

(sup "Who the f*ck is Psicoso?") = RONLMAO ! ! ! ! !
    

Valodim's Thread

 September 05, 2005, 08:33:10 pm View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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let's implement an IRONY parameter  :sugoi:

for these "slow of mind" persons that never understand a joke at the right time...

tags:

[irony] bla bla bla [/irony]

and the Quote like thing would say:

this it's a JOKE you dumbo !

or something similar XD

Moreover it could be referenced to profile names and advertise in such a way on only those that ate set for it, (the "slowest of mind" XD)

and state non Conventional irony for all other members B)

[move](now don't tell me I should have used the tags for the post because they aren't Implemented :P )[/move]

I was actually serious for half of the message... it's useful IMO  8)

    

Re: Mugen's Filetypes

 September 05, 2005, 08:03:18 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Mugen's Filetypes (Started by Davod Sirloin August 25, 2005, 05:27:25 pm
 Board: Introductions and Guides
well...
Quote
In addition, any file can have its extension changed without any problem

and since Cmd cause a lot of internal xp problems (stupid ones, i explained some but you ware not here...) it's probably better to call it kmd!

thus since it did not work as i remembered, I assumed that
! any file can have its extension changed

whie it actually worked now for the winmugen....  --;
    

Re: Mugen's Filetypes

 September 05, 2005, 07:37:50 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Mugen's Filetypes (Started by Davod Sirloin August 25, 2005, 05:27:25 pm
 Board: Introductions and Guides
well back in the days, at my newb time i used to be experimenting and i tried to call the cmd Kmd to solf many xp problems the DOS mugen presented(working under xp).
I remember it did not work.

I just tried on MY mugen, i called the Cmd Kmd and changed it in the def.
at first mugen crushed... Now it works perfectly  :freak:

Ok... so XP user, TRY renaming the CMD to KMD and changing it in the def file,
TO seve a kmd, you must save the doc with Notepad and select the all files option below.

i suggest editing the cmd file, coping all of it, pasting on a blamk notepad and naming it origianal name + Kmd

then edit the def file, AND as if it was magic, MANY random xp developed problems (during game play as well) should never find a tomorrow B)

PS: Make a try first, AS it may not work for everyone...   :ninja:
    

Re: Mugen's Filetypes

 September 05, 2005, 07:21:08 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Mugen's Filetypes (Started by Davod Sirloin August 25, 2005, 05:27:25 pm
 Board: Introductions and Guides
the Cmd did not work... Or else many Xp problem would be solved....
    

Valodim's Thread

 September 03, 2005, 03:43:59 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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But you must admitt ig catches your FULL attention B)
and N00bs attantion should be EVEN MORE attracted XD
    

Valodim's Thread

 September 03, 2005, 02:43:32 am View in topic context
 Posted by SlayerGatsu  in Valodim's Thread 2005 (Started by Valodim January 03, 2005, 11:40:10 pm
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I vote a 999+ for the contest creator of the year...

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

the Toes system may not work as well.... after all Bj it's the sex part that gathers attention  ;) a static Pop up window with an half naked lady would do the trick
(kazamer13 Website!)
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