what about quickfirst he will code the char? he really wants to code this first char K, sorry for this question but I wanna know

<NORMAL>

.One Inch					F + y
.Knee Assault				DF + c
.Spot Pile			       		F/B + 2p		(near opponent)


<SPECIAL>

.Ein Trigger (EX):				D, DF, F, p
    .Second Shoot				F + a
    .Second Shell				F + c
    .Black Out				B + k
.Crow Bites (EX):				F, B, F, p
    .Secondary Bites				F + k			(only after heavy Crow Bites)
.Minutes Spike (EX):			D, DB, B, k		(Air also)
    .Secondary Bites				D, DB, B, k		(only after ground version)
.Air Trigger (EX):				D, DF, F, k		(Air)
.Black Out:				D, DF, F, k


<SUPER>

.Heat Drive (MAX):				D, DF, F, D, DF, F, p	(hold to delay)
.Chain Drive (MAX):			D, DF, F, DF, D, DB, B, p


<Lv2 SUPER>

.Crimson Star Road:			D, DB, B, z, x

<Lv3 SUPER>

.Hyper Chain Drive:				F, DF, D, DB, B, F, DF, D, DB, B, 2p

Hibiki, huh?

... this might be relevant to my interests.

-Ougi: Resshin Zan lets P2 stand up as soon as it hits. Kinda defeats the purpose imo? idk I'm still kinda out of my element here but yeah.

-Hiougi Tenha: Danku Retsu Zan allows some people to get up before the last hit (seen against GM's SF3 Ryu's AI).

-If the second hit of his crouching Z<Z chain misses, the slowdown still happens (either that or mugen suddenly decided it hates my computer).

Chazzanova said, August 03, 2014, 10:01:01 pm

Uhmmm. I don't know man. Seiou Zan was a LV3 Super on CvS2. I think the movement should remain as such. Sorry

No worries. It seemed like a more powerful super move to me hence why I made the suggestion.

And it's actually the other way around in Neo Geo Battle Coliseum in that the Seiou Zan is a Level 1 super move while the Tenha: Fujin Zan is a Level 2 super move.

To make an incredibly quick correction to my feedback.

- When I said lower the recovery time on Far HP, ignore that lol. That was me being stupid. Just do the hittime adjustment thing.

Hmmm... I'm not sure, he has tons of really good tools already.

Since the move is traditionally a projectile killer then it would be for the best to keep it that way, the issue is giving him incentive to actually use it instead of everything else he has. He doesn't really need more moves to get power since he already has tons of ways to build meter and as a defensive maneuver, he has stronger/better ones already.

Might have to put some thought on it for a while, one of the Samsho experts would probably have a better idea of what to do too.

For now it should cancel out projectiles at least.

If you change Issen's command to just "x" it's easy to do: have both characters jump, hit the opponent with j.LP and then activate the super as soon as you land, you'll see it miss completely on p2.

Oh my bad, in CvS2 this move had to be blocked low.

In regards to his movelist, Haohmaru's version of the Issen seems more like a Level 3 super move to me.

A move like that is generally seen a character's most powerful move, especially when the background changes as it did in Haohmaru's version. And in the Samurai Shodown series, it's quite strong as well.

I would have had his Tenha: Seiou Zan as a Level 2 only move while making his Issen his Level 3 super move.

Just gonna jump in and say that the noise that happens during his stance threw me off.

-Their damage output seems kind of weird and jumpy, especially on supers. Sometimes it feels like they do too little damage—especially with their supers—but then that custom combo thing comes up and then they're doing way too much.

-Hiougi Tenha: Danku Retsu Zan seems kinda weird. I feel there should be some way to combo into it, but the delayed startup makes the invuln a bit more bearable, so I dunno.

I've only been testing the normal Haohmaru mode.

He feels really nice, you've come a long way since the first time I tested one of your characters.

- His Senpuuretsuzan projectiles should change to movetype = I when they fade out / connect. Parrying one of them will lock you back to a guarding position if you hold back.

- Resshin Zan becomes a pretty weird cross up move when the opponent is knocked down, usually these type of moves do not allow you to cross up like this. To fix this you might need a pushing helper.

- "Sake Kogeki can destroy projectiles."



wot.
I'm not sure what the actual effects of a succesful sake attack are, but compared to parrying or countering with TK Senpuuretsuzan, this seems like a really really terrible option all around considering he gets hit at startup. I don't think the move's useful at all at this stage.

- I think the "COUNTER!" text used in Senpuuretsuzan should be aligned with the hitspark, it looks weird:

- Something has to be done about custom combo, as a reversal maneuver activating and doing [(cr.HP)x4 => s.HP]xN deals around 340+ damage. There's no reason to use any of his other supers anymore considering this has more invincibility, faster startup, deals way more damage and can set up OKI.

- There's problems with his juggling, reseting an opponent using an air-to-air basic and then using a move with a very long active window does nothing, e.g. j.LP => (land) Issen.

- I do believe c.MP should hit low.

- In CvS2 he used to have a special blocking sound since he was blocking with his weapon. I think that would be nice to have.

- I thought about it, but as POTS Nakoruru hasn't the sound I discarded the idea of adding it. I guess I will add it, I also think that would be nice to have

- Why is liedown.time 60? This seriously bothers me to no end, he's not KFM and there's 0 games with lie down time that long.
  He can get OTG'd and/or pressured on wakeup almost for free.

- Please keep this lol:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yOklkcWu88[/youtube]