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Title: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on February 28, 2012, 10:28:02 am
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/058/d/9/poison_kiss_the_truth_by_gbk666-d4r72jz.jpg)


get over it and away with your Poison Kiss is a woman crap already!!!

source was this wonderful video http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3Lj-9npanOI#!
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Nanashi_1337 on February 28, 2012, 10:32:47 am
Did this really need its own thread? :S

Btw, I know it's off-topic, but GBK, check the Off-topic section, the first thread about Raging Demon.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on February 28, 2012, 10:42:42 am
yarr done, if anyone else ever needs a engrish to germanic translation, here i am. I am the best poster and also the best translator in the world

thought first bout adding it to the sfxt thread but i wasnt sure cos poison kiss fits also to the sf3 online thread and this is more about her long history instead of her game appereances in sfxt or sf3
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: DatKofGuy on February 28, 2012, 10:52:26 am
Why is this still being discussed?
I mean Capcom Japan has already made an official statement regarding Poison, I think it was something like "In America Poison is a post-op tranny, and in Japan Poison just tucks her business away"
I'm paraphrasing here ofcourse
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Shunt666 on February 28, 2012, 10:56:33 am
Why is this still being discussed?

The denial is still strong.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Byakko on February 28, 2012, 11:21:30 am
I mean Capcom Japan has already made an official statement regarding Poison, I think it was something like "In America Poison is a post-op tranny, and in Japan Poison just tucks her business away"
Do watch the video.
And it's still being discussed because... People love to talk about dicks and tits (bonus points if you can call people insecure). It's not like there actually has been anyone denying it or even talking about it lately around here.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Loona on February 28, 2012, 03:19:17 pm
Minor point: there were mentions in this thread of "Poison Kiss", but in the SVC CFC DS card description for Poison (http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/930038-snk-vs-capcom-card-fighters-ds/faqs/48464), there's a mention of a separate character under that name, as a possible sister to the character. Not something directly from Capcom, but I wonder where the name came from - poking around, I think I saw some mention of that coming up in Mighty Final Fight (the SD NES bersion).
Anyone know more about that?

Also, poor Roxy - she shows up 1st in FF (1st level, I think), while Poison is actually her palette swap, not the other way around, only appearing later in the subway stage, yet history turned out this way, isn't it sad?  :'(
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on February 28, 2012, 03:52:57 pm
Poison Kiss is just the full name of her in japan
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Loona on February 28, 2012, 03:58:52 pm
Poison Kiss is just the full name of her in japan

Maybe, but then why would that card bother to mention her as a separate character?...

(maybe to make the SD Final Fight a wee bit less controversial in overall tone?)
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 28, 2012, 04:01:48 pm
posion kiss is the name of the character in mighty final fight for the nes, While I ahve read a lot of sources saying that that one is his sister I don't remember that form an official source.

Minor point: there were mentions in this thread of "Poison Kiss", but in the SVC CFC DS card description for Poison (http://www.gamefaqs.com/ds/930038-snk-vs-capcom-card-fighters-ds/faqs/48464), there's a mention of a separate character under that name, as a possible sister to the character. Not something directly from Capcom, but I wonder where the name came from - poking around, I think I saw some mention of that coming up in Mighty Final Fight (the SD NES bersion).
Anyone know more about that?

Also, poor Roxy - she shows up 1st in FF (1st level, I think), while Poison is actually her palette swap, not the other way around, only appearing later in the subway stage, yet history turned out this way, isn't it sad?  :'(


that's the difference between being a generic whore and being a travestite, kind of like sf3 makoto.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Byakko on February 28, 2012, 04:17:06 pm
Poison Kiss is just the full name of her in japan
I've never seen her being called that, not even in the video that shows pictures of the original manuals and concept arts. Where did you see her with that name ?
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: GMSpectre on February 28, 2012, 05:18:39 pm
I think people need to take notice of the reaction of the Daniel Bryan avatar to the news in the first post.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on February 28, 2012, 07:56:56 pm
Poison Kiss is just the full name of her in japan
I've never seen her being called that, not even in the video that shows pictures of the original manuals and concept arts. Where did you see her with that name ?

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/poison.html
http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Poison

Poison (Poison Kiss in Japan) is a character first introduced in the Final Fight series, who then appeared in Street Fighter Alpha 2, Street Fighter III 3rd Strike and other Capcom works. She also featured prominently in SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos.

source http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Poison
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: walt on February 28, 2012, 07:57:59 pm
Fighters Generation = Some dude like you and me. Not reliable
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on February 28, 2012, 08:02:25 pm
(http://www.game-art-hq.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Poison-Kiss-Profile-.jpg) thats why i added the capcom wikia too, whoever wants to learn more about the name or not, research.. i do not care myself enough for the name
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Titiln on February 28, 2012, 08:09:24 pm
thats why i added the capcom wikia too
that's also some dude like you and me
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Jmorphman on February 28, 2012, 08:10:13 pm
Fighters Generation = Some dude like you and me. Not reliable
Also, he's a giant dumbass.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: XGargoyle on February 28, 2012, 08:18:08 pm
so what? No one cares!! It's still one of my favorite fap materials!!!
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Peter B. Parker on February 28, 2012, 08:28:05 pm
Poison was one of the very very very very very few ideas Capcom Japan liked from Capcom USA and adapted as canon for the character
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Jmorphman on February 28, 2012, 08:30:34 pm
-_-

nice job watching that video
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Peter B. Parker on February 28, 2012, 08:32:37 pm
Which video?? :???:
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: SNT on February 28, 2012, 08:33:35 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/LV4dE.jpg)
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Jmorphman on February 28, 2012, 08:34:40 pm
Which video?? :???:
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Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Peter B. Parker on February 28, 2012, 08:41:48 pm
It's necessary to see it to post here?? :???:
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: henk on February 28, 2012, 08:42:29 pm
Yes. It's in the first damn post, Basara.
It's the point of the entire thread.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Peter B. Parker on February 28, 2012, 08:48:03 pm
But it's too long, I can't see it complete in my office :sadgoi:
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Loona on February 28, 2012, 08:57:57 pm
Long story short, the writing that the bottom of this picture from Final Fight concept art that precedes the release of the arcade game (http://www.fightingstreet.com/folders/artworkfolder/artworkpics/ff_art/ff1_art/ff1_concept_art/Final_Fight_1_Concept_Art_05.jpg) says "newhalf", marking the intent of having both Roxy and Poison and transgendered from the very start.


I generally don't care about FCG personalities and drama, but after the video's eloquent history lesson likely reaching quite a few more people, one of my hopes for EVO (other than massive KoF success) is that Kayo Police cosplays Poison there (last year it was C.Viper and Xiaoyu IIRC), to maximize the awkward/confused/guilty boner poetential all around of everyone who still denies the evidence.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: henk on February 28, 2012, 09:01:32 pm
If Kayo ever cosplayed Poison for some reason or another, there would be a billion boners on the planet no matter what.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: MooMaster666 on February 28, 2012, 09:03:02 pm
You'd fuck Kayo Police if you had the opportunity.  ;P
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on February 28, 2012, 09:08:59 pm
You'd fuck Kayo Police if you had the opportunity.  ;P

YES! YES! YES! YES!!!
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Palette Jesus on February 28, 2012, 09:12:42 pm
http://i.imgur.com/LV4dE.jpg

Gender Studies 101.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: walt on February 28, 2012, 09:58:42 pm
On the topic of HOT TRAPS. We had a case here in Mexico where one of our best soccer players was seduced by a transgender woman, and he didn't know until later (she only gave him a blowjob, he couldn't have known) and it was like OMG! HE'S GAY CUZ HE WAS WITH A MAN.

Now, have you seen this person? She's strikingly beautiful in person (http://www.terra.com/deportes/noticias/yamile_el_travesti_que_conquisto_a_salcido/fox1516941)

Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Byakko on February 28, 2012, 10:11:17 pm
Poison Kiss is just the full name of her in japan
I've never seen her being called that, not even in the video that shows pictures of the original manuals and concept arts. Where did you see her with that name ?

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/poison.html
http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Poison

Poison (Poison Kiss in Japan) is a character first introduced in the Final Fight series, who then appeared in Street Fighter Alpha 2, Street Fighter III 3rd Strike and other Capcom works. She also featured prominently in SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos.

source http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Poison
In what you quote of me, you see me point out "I've never seen her being called that, not even in the video that shows pictures of the original manuals and concept arts. " The manual from the very first game in Japanese version is shown in the video in the first post, and it doesn't say Poison Kiss, and neither does the concept art, and neither does the Wikipedia (not Wikia) article. What you make of that is that your sources are bogus.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 28, 2012, 10:21:51 pm
salcido es puto.

Long story short, the writing that the bottom of this picture from Final Fight concept art that precedes the release of the arcade game (http://www.fightingstreet.com/folders/artworkfolder/artworkpics/ff_art/ff1_art/ff1_concept_art/Final_Fight_1_Concept_Art_05.jpg) says "newhalf", marking the intent of having both Roxy and Poison and transgendered from the very start.

the arcade version predates the snes version too, just for the people who want to blame nintendo.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Bea on February 28, 2012, 11:03:55 pm
On the topic of HOT TRAPS. We had a case here in Mexico where one of our best soccer players was seduced by a transgender woman, and he didn't know until later (she only gave him a blowjob, he couldn't have known) and it was like OMG! HE'S GAY CUZ HE WAS WITH A MAN.

Now, have you seen this person? She's strikingly beautiful in person (http://www.terra.com/deportes/noticias/yamile_el_travesti_que_conquisto_a_salcido/fox1516941)

And cases like this... (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2073622/Andrej-Pejic-A-MAN-modelling-womens-lingerie.html)
I'm bloody jealous of them.  >:(
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Jesuszilla on February 29, 2012, 05:03:49 am
On the topic of HOT TRAPS. We had a case here in Mexico where one of our best soccer players was seduced by a transgender woman, and he didn't know until later (she only gave him a blowjob, he couldn't have known) and it was like OMG! HE'S GAY CUZ HE WAS WITH A MAN.
ain't nothin' gay about gettin' your dick sucked. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G9ta7AHsIU)
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: mikros on February 29, 2012, 11:38:07 am
If Kayo ever cosplayed Poison for some reason or another, there would be a billion boners on the planet no matter what.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/mikros/kayopoison2.jpg)

 :sugoi:
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: "Bad News" Hoffmann on February 29, 2012, 12:21:32 pm
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!

seriously, if he/she (whatever) would cosplay Poison it wouldnt be fitting at all alone because of the body proportions already.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 19, 2012, 01:45:30 pm
So Poison's model got extracted.. aaaand
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/073/0/3/poison_1p_outfit_for_xnalara_by_kse25-d4sqm09.jpg)

Those are some big thighs, they could give Chun-Li a run for her money.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: FeckFace on March 20, 2012, 02:13:03 am
Lili and Asuka are no different. They get the same exaggeration, and they're both thin-legged and all-woman.
Check it out.

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/078/0/5/sfxt_lili_3rd_costume_by_ik1l73r-d4t97o0.png)(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/076/1/0/asuka_kazama_1p_outfit_for_xnalara_by_kse25-d4t13yo.jpg)
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: S.D. on March 20, 2012, 07:07:09 am
Personally, I'm more worried about Lili's biceps. Goddamn.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: mikros on March 20, 2012, 12:16:03 pm
Personally, I'm more worried about Lili's biceps. Goddamn.

If I'm not mistaken, those textures are not 100% accurate, because of the color edit stuff.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 20, 2012, 12:46:29 pm
If I'm not mistaken, those textures are not 100% accurate, because of the color edit stuff.
Textures don't affect the actual model.
And in any case those textures are ripped from the game itself, so...
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: S.D. on March 20, 2012, 01:00:49 pm
The game has a shader though (Have you seen the unshaded SFIV models? They look kinda... different)
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: walt on March 20, 2012, 03:11:53 pm
different = ugly.

Yeah, the shaders do wonders. It's a very well planned out game visually, if you put everything into the engine, but the models by themselves or the textures aren't all that pretty if you remove them from the engine's context.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Bea on March 20, 2012, 03:19:06 pm
Yup, that model pretty much confirms that she's tucking her business at SFxT.

Good attention to the details by Capcom artists there.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Loona on March 20, 2012, 04:58:31 pm
Personally, I'm more worried about Lili's biceps. Goddamn.

Maybe she got some tutoring from Makoto on how to work on her arms (http://www.eventhubs.com/images/2010/mar/11/new-super-street-fighter-4-alternative-costumes-image-5/)
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Senaden on March 21, 2012, 04:25:57 am
mm, if that poison were a real human being instead of a drawing... no reason to care about this at all
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: mikros on March 21, 2012, 11:38:58 am
If I'm not mistaken, those textures are not 100% accurate, because of the color edit stuff.
Textures don't affect the actual model.
And in any case those textures are ripped from the game itself, so...
The model itself doesn't seem strange compared to others. It's the texture what stands out. And I mention the extract accuracy because textures in SFxT are coded differently from SF4, and last I knew the files were some strange colorless thing that was affected by the color edit mode.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 21, 2012, 03:59:24 pm
that poison model is female, try taking his pants off.
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: DatKofGuy on March 22, 2012, 06:39:41 am
The model itself doesn't seem strange compared to others. It's the texture what stands out. And I mention the extract accuracy because textures in SFxT are coded differently from SF4, and last I knew the files were some strange colorless thing that was affected by the color edit mode.
Actually, its been figured out how to extract it properly now. sooo...
Title: Re: 100% Evidence, Poison is a TRAP!!
Post by: Xhominid on March 22, 2012, 10:46:17 pm
The model itself doesn't seem strange compared to others. It's the texture what stands out. And I mention the extract accuracy because textures in SFxT are coded differently from SF4, and last I knew the files were some strange colorless thing that was affected by the color edit mode.
Actually, its been figured out how to extract it properly now. sooo...

and for those not yet versed into programming, what does that mean?