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Title: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
Dragon Ball Gets 1st New TV Anime in 18 Years in July.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-28/dragon-ball-gets-1st-new-tv-anime-in-18-years-in-july/.87608

This is Excellent. I can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: R565 on April 28, 2015, 03:01:46 pm
Dang, but I guess it's ok from the looks of it. Toriyama even gave his blessing to do it from what the article read.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 28, 2015, 03:11:54 pm
It says Toriyama wrote it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: R565 on April 28, 2015, 03:27:55 pm
I was about to correct myself cause I read the article again...My hype has launched into orbit!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Negi Springfield on April 28, 2015, 04:03:53 pm
I'm really not sure how to feel about this. After Goku and Vegeta went Super Cyan it feels like AT is intentionally trolling the entire world now with his own brand of Dragon Ball AF.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on April 28, 2015, 05:15:54 pm
Toriyama isn't that good of a writer imo. we may have forgiven him back then, but now there's alot of good shows out there, and if he's still gonna use the same methods with the story that he used with dbz (the slow pacing, hax power ups, and the sidestepping of all the other characters) then I'm afraid this show won't be up today's standards.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: R565 on April 28, 2015, 05:23:42 pm
Yeah that's the thing about it too. Looking back, DBZ was good for its time but people nowadays don't like the pacing of it. If they are going to make a new series, then they have to change some stuff to the writing formula...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 28, 2015, 05:27:05 pm
Slow pacing was mostly from the anime. The manga didn't advance very fast either, but that's because it was filled with fights, which is, well, the whole point of interest of the thing. The question is, will the new anime give lots of fights and make them go at a normal pace (even if it's just a lot of fight and little plot advancement). I would say that since he wrote two movies before that, hopefully he'll stick to that pace, which means it can't take forever.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thagr8test on April 28, 2015, 07:28:23 pm
I won't lie i'm definitely intrigued but as stated above they did kind of stop caring about major characters as the seasons went on, in the buu saga piccolo (one of earth's most powerful fighters might I add) didn't fight let alone throw a SINGLE punch throughout the entire buu saga and that is just unacceptable given the fact krillin, tien, and yamcha even got little fight scenes just adds insult to injury so hopefully they can improve upon past mistakes
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 28, 2015, 07:34:46 pm
Resurrection of F is evidently a love letter to the Freeza saga where everyone had a part (except Tenshinhan and Yamcha of course), a part of the movie is all the B- and C-listers fighting off Freeza's army (and attempted something similar in Battle of Gods), so if Toriyama was just getting back to that, there's a big chance he keeps doing it for this series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Tyrant Belial on April 28, 2015, 07:40:45 pm
IT'S BEEN 18 YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

Edit: -AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARS


It's probably about the other universes.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Websta on April 28, 2015, 07:45:32 pm
26 eps? 100 something eps? Any word on that yet?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on April 28, 2015, 08:09:29 pm
biweekly 24 eps, will renew for other 24 eps if it sells well.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Speedpreacher on April 28, 2015, 08:17:15 pm
Ah the Sailor Moon schedule
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Flowrellik on April 28, 2015, 08:21:27 pm
*childhood senses....tingling*....
I can't wait to see THIS on Toonami. God I feel like a kid again XD
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on April 28, 2015, 11:56:00 pm
Get this over to new Toonami with Sailor Moon Crystal and whatever Gundam's cooking up and I'll have reason to watch AS's version of Toonami again. And maybe we can get Young Justice and Sym-Bionic Titan to return there too...

Since Beerus though, things bigger than Buu continue to annoy me.  You got a practically immortal blob that makes a game out of eating the highest tier of gods in the universe and can up and make said universe go boom if it entertained him.  Beerus just happening to be around and not caring about this bugged me, and now Frieza could make those feats childsplay now that he cared to stop being lazy and trained himself a little.  I'll be curious to see what new trouble it is they got and will most certainly catch the show however I can, but I can't help but feel Buu's relevance is slowly disappearing.

Well at least its not as bad as it is for Perfect Cell getting bumped down to the lowest tier of main villains still somewhat around now I suppose.

Also, if they go Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2 here and someone's hair turns green, I'm taking that as personal head canon that Broly is the god of his alt. universe.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on April 29, 2015, 04:22:12 am
OH MY GOD!!!! A NEW DBZ SERIES!! :D :D :D :D

I can't take my happiness! I really can't wait to see that!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: SlySuavity on April 29, 2015, 04:26:48 am
... Well shit, I might as well continue the remastered uncut seasons beginning from the Frieza saga.

Then watch the entirety of Kai to see the differences. Maybe.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Green Arrow on April 29, 2015, 04:31:21 am
24 eps.... I remember when that was damn near a single fight in Dragon Ball. Still excited for this one
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on April 29, 2015, 05:38:48 am
what I don't want is to have a new friggin Super Saiyan recolor that fanboys will flock over every other week, i remember when the first super saiyan was such a big deal, then when 2 came out 3 just felt like a new hairdo, i want them to make a new form without a stupid name too (Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan and SS5 sounds terrible)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on April 29, 2015, 01:42:23 pm
Then watch the entirety of Kai to see the differences. Maybe.
Don't do that to yourself, no one deserves to deal with Kai.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sookoll on April 29, 2015, 05:22:14 pm
There's something wrong with Kai?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 29, 2015, 05:32:17 pm
For the Buu saga and for what I saw of it (up until Buu's resurrection at the beginning), it doesn't have any added value : it skips the stuff that wasn't in the manga, but it doesn't actually speed up the stuff that was in it but was super slow.
So basically, it's still super slow, and there isn't any visual improvement either. The very beginning during the Raditz fight up to maybe the Namek saga, there were visual improvements, but quickly less and less ; in the Cell saga, there was almost no difference.
In short, the original anime wasn't very good, and the Kai version has no added value, so it's still not very good.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on April 29, 2015, 05:35:10 pm
I remember one of the complaints was that, to make it 16/9 aspect ratio, most frames got the bottom/top cropped.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on April 29, 2015, 05:43:53 pm
The manga always was better anyway.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Foobs on April 29, 2015, 05:57:48 pm
Does the American kai add some of the stuff that was censored from the original dub?

I suppose that'd be the only version worth watching over the 'original'.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on April 30, 2015, 01:03:54 am
Don't forget how they toned down the violence quite a bit.
(http://i41.tinypic.com/214v508.png)

Also, I can't see Midorikawa as Tien but that's just me.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thojoewhit on April 30, 2015, 01:13:06 am
well this is unexpected. also i like Kai abit more the the old dub.
just saiyan.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on April 30, 2015, 01:15:47 am
Probably this new series of DBZ won't be dubbed in Italian.
...
Maybe that's better. I prefer Japanese and English voices anyway.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on April 30, 2015, 01:27:57 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

that cropping is terrible too.
shame to see Toei abusing it like this, all the details the animator worked hard to draw just got carelessly cut.
but that's Toei for you, the shittiest and cheapest animation company ever.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Fallen on April 30, 2015, 02:45:20 am
I was disappointed with the re-mastered dbz kai seeing as the graphic weren't updated at all except for opening song and now a new sayain mode my kid self would probably love it but after watching anime over the years I don't think I will be able to watch the new series hopefully they think it over with the new sayain mode but since its one of my all time childhood favorite I will watch a few episodes then decide to continue watching it or not.....
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: SlySuavity on April 30, 2015, 02:56:36 am
I had some reservations with Kai before, but that seals the deal. Thanks guys.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on April 30, 2015, 06:46:07 am
Kai has the filler is cut out, the fights have less interruptions(Goku v Cell is soooo good in Kai), and the only major long-lasting power up is Vegeta not-going SSj on Freeza, Goku going SSj the first time, and Vegeta Final Flashing. Pretty much all the bullshit is cut. The whole Namek Saga has a more appropriate feel in Kai too, rather than throwing goofy comic relief in every episode with "What wacky shit are Chi-chi, Yajirobe, and Roshi up to on Earth" *Pan to sky* -or- Bulma's misadventures, you get a series of episodes where Gohan, Krillin, and Bulma are on a planet and they are disconnected from Earth and effectively have no hope. It's handled way better, and as I understand, closer to the manga.

DBKai is a far superior viewing experience to DBZ, to the point I can't actually watch DBZ anymore. Sucks they fucked with some edits and the cropping, but I'd take it over Z. Also the plagiarized soundtrack is pretty excellent overall, if it's still possible to torrent those episodes. The Ginyu Theme alone makes Kai worth it.


I'm not including the Buu Saga my opinion above, since the Kai version so far seems the same as Z with a shorter Saiyaman bit. Actually the Gohan going to school bit thru the martial arts tournament is all I've enjoyed from the Kai Buu Saga so far. After they leave the tournament it seems like the same slow awful Buu Saga from DBZ. :(
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cazaki on April 30, 2015, 07:38:28 am
I actually agree with chrono on this one. I will say that I missed the early Buu Saga filler and mid-Cell Saga filler though because I remembered it so fondly.

Very excited for the new series, I will go into it without any pre-determined expectations, and just enjoy it for all that it's worth.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on April 30, 2015, 09:16:02 am
Look at all these casuals that are settling with Kai because they didn't get all the Dragon Boxes.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on April 30, 2015, 10:00:08 am
I'm quite worried about this because I can bet all my money that Goku and Vegeta will be the main characters, putting Gohan, Goten, Trunk, Uub, Pan and Bra as supporting characters. Its mainly why I don't really like Buu saga because once again Goku and Vegeta had to finish the job, Gohan barely managed to do anything relevant in this saga. Making Goku and Vegeta the main character again would be pointless and drag down the quality of this sequel, but people will kill Akira if he dares to make other characters beside Goku have relevance in the plot so I wouldn't dream on that. At best we can have something close to the latest movies which are good but clearly far from Frieza saga or Cell saga for example.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on April 30, 2015, 03:29:53 pm
Get this over to new Toonami with Sailor Moon Crystal and whatever Gundam's cooking up and I'll have reason to watch AS's version of Toonami again. And maybe we can get Young Justice and Sym-Bionic Titan to return there too...

Since Beerus though, things bigger than Buu continue to annoy me.  You got a practically immortal blob that makes a game out of eating the highest tier of gods in the universe and can up and make said universe go boom if it entertained him.  Beerus just happening to be around and not caring about this bugged me, and now Frieza could make those feats childsplay now that he cared to stop being lazy and trained himself a little. 
(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--T0Fi15c---/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1231393277187383654.png)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on April 30, 2015, 04:44:35 pm
Take a look at the two movies Battle Of Gods and this new Frieza's movie. I do see that Akira Toriyama actually has that old Dragonball twist back in were everyone does something. Remember that when Goku was a kid, all Characters around him were doing something. They were all important somehow. I don't think that there is a rule that every character must fight or something. Some of them are just there for being there. Elder Kai does talk to. Does he have to fight? I mean, is it so that talking or less fighting makes a character less important? Some characters are maybe not right for plots.

Piccolo for example really is really calm. He is there with his mind. It doesn't matter if he fights. It would be Excellent of course but he is still great if he doesn't fight. Of course, I do agree that the characters that knows to fight should fight but, it doesn't really matter. If you look at the two movies, everyone is there with a small or big role. It does look like Akira Toriyama goes back to the idea were everyone becomes important. I believe that this is done slowly and not straight. I just hope to see this done more in the upcomming Dragonball Super Series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on April 30, 2015, 06:30:04 pm
Look at all these casuals that are settling with Kai because they didn't get all the Dragon Boxes.
Whatever it takes  to make yourself feel comfortable about spending money on ~100 extra episodes of shitty filler and slow, heavily interrupted, uninteresting interactions, and drawn out battles repeating the same scenes over and over again, or the stereotypical power up shout sequences.  :Mr-T:

I'll take my 98 episodes of Kai over 194 episodes of slow-paced filler-filled DBZ any day. :)



As far as the new series go I'd rather them take in a direction that feels more like Dragon Ball, sort of like that anniversary movie, where they weren't fighting against the most super power bad guys ever type thing. But in the end as long as they can keep that good Akira Toriyama feel with the character interactions it's fine by me, I probably won't care if they go beyond Buu or anything as long as it's a fun experience instead of an annoying one (GT).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on April 30, 2015, 11:10:08 pm
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--T0Fi15c---/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1231393277187383654.png
Ok, so trained a LOT and educated himself in the finer parts of Earth's pop culture.  Still somewhat bugs me.

I'm on the Z side of this Kai/Z debate.  There's some charm to Dragon Ball's world building even with the silliest and most non-essential excuses.  Like Goku learning to dress like Fred Flintstone and getting his license.  Or 16, 17 and 18 messing with some teens in their race.  And Gohan actually trained and learned some things before Nappa and Vegeta showed up.

It'd be hell to go through and watch all over again though.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Jango on May 01, 2015, 04:01:54 am
There was one particular scene in Z that I thought was handled really well that was better than the manga (dunno about Kai, didn't watch).

When Yamcha and the Saibamen are fighting, they seemingly disappear, and Gohan's all "Where are they?" and Piccolo's like "Idiot, they're moving super fast. We can all see them except you!"

When Z had the scene, Piccolo calmly helped Gohan "see" them, strengthening his connection to Gohan and making me actually give a shit when Piccolo got killed.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on May 01, 2015, 08:59:07 am
It's fine if you have terrible taste and prefer Kai, its awful "remastered" look with terrible cropping and super toned down violence, just don't claim it's superior, and that you can't handle the old series because you have some kind of ADD or something.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on May 01, 2015, 10:55:55 am
I like the Z version more than Kai.
I actually like the fillers and how it looks. Kai is the abridged version and sincerely it adds nothing, it cuts stuff that I also liked.
(no TFS jokes please, you know what I meant)

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on May 01, 2015, 10:57:34 am
It's fine if you have terrible taste and prefer Kai, its awful "remastered" look with terrible cropping and super toned down violence, just don't claim it's superior, and that you can't handle the old series because you have some kind of ADD or something.

It's fine if you are an elitist but when it comes to discuss things that makes you an awful person to debate with. Just let people like Kai if they want to, its their right and you are in no right to say to people what they should like or hate. Get off the horse for once k thx bye.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on May 01, 2015, 11:37:04 pm
"debate" implies that I'm opening up to people talking back and maybe changing my mind, so that's the wrong word to use. k thnx bye.

There's some charm to Dragon Ball's world building even with the silliest and most non-essential excuses.  Like Goku learning to dress like Fred Flintstone and getting his license.  Or 16, 17 and 18 messing with some teens in their race.  And Gohan actually trained and learned some things before Nappa and Vegeta showed up.
So this.
It'd be hell to go through and watch all over again though.
And this too, then again most of us watched it more than twice thanks to TV reruns. But yeah.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on May 01, 2015, 11:43:43 pm
"debate" implies that I'm opening up to people talking back and maybe changing my mind, so that's the wrong word to use. k thnx bye.

So thats basically how you always react, by dodging the topic. But I'm gonna stop here, you're clearly not worth it, all you do is act like an anime elitist so I'll let you in your own self absorbed world. At least there no one will ever try to think a way different then yours.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on May 02, 2015, 12:38:47 am
So much talking about Z v. Kai. Reeeeeeeeeally not giving a shit. Let's stop because it's a stupid discussion overall.

You guys can make a separate thread about your hatred for one series over the other elsewhere on this board. Besides that, keep on topic about the upcoming series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on May 03, 2015, 01:14:58 am

So thats basically how you always react, by dodging the topic. But I'm gonna stop here, you're clearly not worth it, all you do is act like an anime elitist so I'll let you in your own self absorbed world. At least there no one will ever try to think a way different then yours.
Cool thanks, no one was asking you to do otherwise, so it's your own fault :)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on May 03, 2015, 04:13:38 am
That's enough. I'm warning everyone on here to stay on topic.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on May 03, 2015, 04:41:24 pm
Mhh I would like to see what happens in Future Trunks alternate Timeline, if Future Trunks was able to stop his version of Buu and what happend after that, I'm curious if the show will address this at some point, or if Toriyama already forgot that the alternate timeline was a thing at some point in his story.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 03, 2015, 05:09:17 pm
Cell never reached his Perfect form and no Saiyan reached SSJ2 form, so Babidi never went to Earth and probably never found anyone strong enough to revive Buu. It's a non-issue for Future Trunks.
On the other hand, Beerus should still hear of Freeza's death and look for a Saiyan expecting to find the Super Saiyan God, so when there's only Trunks left, he should blow up Earth in frustration... Unless Whis realizes soon enough that Goku is dead and doesn't bring Beerus to Earth at all.
But I just don't think the Future timeline will ever be relevant again.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Dragon-Poetry on May 03, 2015, 06:08:38 pm
I'm a bit weary of this show, honestly. Excited and I feel a raging nostalgia boner coming on, (lol.) but I was very disappointed with Battle of the Gods. Haven't seen return of F though. Anybody see it believed it to be any good?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on May 03, 2015, 11:53:15 pm
Mhh I would like to see what happens in Future Trunks alternate Timeline, if Future Trunks was able to stop his version of Buu and what happend after that, I'm curious if the show will address this at some point, or if Toriyama already forgot that the alternate timeline was a thing at some point in his story.
Doesn't XV actually explain that? I mean sure,  it's a game, we don't know if it's canon (Unless the Supreme Kai of time, Towa or Mira show up on the next movie)
Pretty much what DKDC said, plus the time patrol was formed because it was brought to The supreme Kai of Time that Trunk altered a timeline and he had to join to make up for it.
I think the Fukkatsu no F manga and movie also explain that Whis tends to also alter the time whenever Bills goes out of control so they could open themselves to expand on that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: R565 on May 04, 2015, 10:11:00 am
I honestly think that ZV is cannon for many things. Also if you're going to mess with the timeline, for good or bad there will be consequences....

I really hope they do expand on that sort of thing too.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on May 06, 2015, 10:18:23 pm
Mhh I would like to see what happens in Future Trunks alternate Timeline, if Future Trunks was able to stop his version of Buu and what happend after that, I'm curious if the show will address this at some point, or if Toriyama already forgot that the alternate timeline was a thing at some point in his story.
Doesn't XV actually explain that? I mean sure,  it's a game, we don't know if it's canon (Unless the Supreme Kai of time, Towa or Mira show up on the next movie)
Well, there's also Shin Budokai 2 (Another Road).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Kairi on May 14, 2015, 04:47:27 pm
XV (or any game) has nothing to do with the canon Toriyama is doing with the show. There's different variations to the timeline, but it usually goes;

Manga (original, Minus, Jaco, etc) + BoG and RoF
Cartoon (No films, kai being the new filler-less canon), + Goku & Friends,  BoG and RoF

Then you have several splinter canons, using various films (original 13) that really can't be used in conjunction with one another and show. It's a mess. Also, GT is out. It's not tied to Super.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on May 14, 2015, 05:00:37 pm
Also, GT is out.
Finally.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Kairi on May 14, 2015, 05:33:10 pm
Also, GT is out.
Finally.

But I liked (some) of it! And Hoshi, sup!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on May 16, 2015, 10:17:14 am
Also, GT is out.
Finally.

But I liked (some) of it! And Hoshi, sup!
Long time, no see! You should hit me up on Facebook if you have it. check out the link in my profile and we can keep in touch easier!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Kairi on May 17, 2015, 12:08:37 am
^ Sent a request, just now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 17, 2015, 12:47:34 am
Also, if they go Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2 here and someone's hair turns green, I'm taking that as personal head canon that Broly is the god of his alt. universe.
Found it
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/1/1f/DragonBallZMovie816.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120229201240)
Super Cyan Broly was a thing since the beginning.
He also tried to go Super Saiyan God
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/3/33/Semi_super_broly.png/revision/latest?cb=20140426081257)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on May 17, 2015, 12:56:40 am
Too bad he loses his badass hair color once you remove the crown from his head.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on May 17, 2015, 12:59:01 am
Ive seen mentioned in some dbz sites eve rsince the first movie some people saying that Broly was actually a god form all along.
(http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i104/JAG2000/Broly_Hottie.jpg)
the justification was that Goku needed six super sayans with a pure heart to believe in him for him to unlock his own powers and Broly had several super sayans with black hearts fearing him as a child.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmEVi62ZhlU


That and a few more things like some of freeza moves being "God" powered instead of just pure ki, like death beam and death ball.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Kairi on May 17, 2015, 01:07:21 am
It's just a coincidence. Broly's hair was that shade due to the device being on him, and nothing more. In his very first film it comes off, and his hair is yellow. There's really no debate to that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 17, 2015, 01:21:29 am
I'm pretty sure it's a joke. Mine is, at least.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hephaistos31 on May 17, 2015, 01:25:21 am
I remember that a member of my familly told me, 10 or 12 years ago, that the real legendary warrior was... Goten, because a friend of him that was travelling to japan has seen a movie with goten with blue hairs. (It was probably a fanmade movie or stuff).

Now that I'm thinking about it, shit! It's just impressive that now the new level of transformations is blue hairs! It's awesome! :D illuminatiforthewin
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 17, 2015, 05:09:49 pm
http://www.orendsrange.com/2015/05/dragon-ball-super-manga-adaptation.html
Manga adaptation of the anime, drawn by the guy who does the Dragon Ball Heroes manga. Depending on the rhythm of the anime and the manga, which one will spoil which... ??
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 19, 2015, 09:35:55 am
Dragonball Kai season 2 comes to an end as Goku is already fighting Kid Buu in the latest Episodes. Not much left for an announcement of Dragonball Super. I wonder if they are going to show us atleast the opening of the new series soon.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on May 19, 2015, 03:03:38 pm
I really want Hironobu Kageyama to return... even though it's highly unlikely at this point.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on May 19, 2015, 05:47:45 pm
Dragonball Kai season 2 comes to an end as Goku is already fighting Kid Buu in the latest Episodes. Not much left for an announcement of Dragonball Super. I wonder if they are going to show us atleast the opening of the new series soon.
it's going to air very fuckiing soon, though obviosuly they are nto ging to show the full opening until after episode 2 at least, but they should be relasing trailers/cms any moment now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 19, 2015, 05:54:54 pm
Dragonball Super's Official Website is now online. It is funny as it was after my reply. Opening and Ending is announced.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/05/19/dragon-ball-super-website-launches-oped-announced/

Official Website: http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 21, 2015, 03:17:47 pm
I agree that Hironobu Kageyama should return and sing some of the theme's for this. I also want to see Launch back in The Series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Segatron on May 21, 2015, 10:36:23 pm
That is if Toriyama doesn't forget her AGAIN.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 21, 2015, 10:44:40 pm
He didn't forget her, she pops up in the scene where everyone gives energy to Goku for the Genkidama against Kid Buu. In the anime at least, but in the manga, I think Toriyama did plan to include her but switched her out for #17 instead.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on May 22, 2015, 12:23:21 am
He didn't forget her, she pops up in the scene where everyone gives energy to Goku for the Genkidama against Kid Buu. In the anime at least, but in the manga, I think Toriyama did plan to include her but switched her out for #17 instead.

Afaik he said that he forgot her, but he also said at some  point that she was not in Z because of here transformation and that it would confuse people because SSJ and here Transformation looking similar etc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 22, 2015, 12:11:29 pm
I know that Launch gives energy to Goku's Genkidama. That was a few seconds just like We saw Android 8 from Dragonball. It was a nice little cameo appearance of them. I do get it that Launch could confuse with her hair after sneezing but, xhenron could fix that problem for her. They have any kind of wishes. Why not a wish for Launch? It doesn't have to be filler or included. It could be just mentioned in The Series there.

Also, Goku From Dragon Ball Super Manga Unveiled.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-05-22/goku-from-dragon-ball-super-manga-unveiled/.88411
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Dumanios on May 22, 2015, 09:28:58 pm
Farewell blue undershirt.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Segatron on May 23, 2015, 01:22:00 am
Now that is something I like....what about Uub now?
In Z he went with Goku to be trained....wonder will be used this time? As GT is not relevant anymore
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 23, 2015, 10:25:19 am
They met Uub 7 years after the defeat of Majin Buu. This could take place before they met Uub actually. Just like the latest movies. That's what I think. If not, We have a chance to see Adult Goten and Adult Trunks just like in the end of Dragonball Z there.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on May 24, 2015, 03:22:12 pm
Also, Goku From Dragon Ball Super Manga Unveiled.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-05-22/goku-from-dragon-ball-super-manga-unveiled/.88411
(http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max650x650/cms/news/88411/news_xlarge_db.jpg)
i like this new design, it's a breath of fresh air. i hope they use it in the anime. although i do feel that his hand looks too thin.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 24, 2015, 03:25:06 pm
It's what he has in Resurrection of F.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 24, 2015, 09:08:23 pm
I wonder if his hair will ever become gold/yellow again in The new series. I hope it doesn't become blue all the time when he transforms into SSJ.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: walt on May 25, 2015, 04:05:38 pm
"CHANGE SOMETHING LOW COST, SO WE CAN MAKE A NEW TOY!"
"HOW ABOUT THE SHOES?"
"SOMEBODY GIVE THIS MAN A RAISE!"
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on May 25, 2015, 04:14:47 pm
Footwear is what often makes or breaks a character design for me and I always liked Toriyama's take on that particular field. I like this new take, it's different yet familiar enough and it doesn't ruin anything.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 25, 2015, 04:28:29 pm
"CHANGE SOMETHING LOW COST, SO WE CAN MAKE A NEW TOY!"
"HOW ABOUT THE SHOES?"
"SOMEBODY GIVE THIS MAN A RAISE!"

Check out Vegeta's new design, his tights should be harder to make and isn't that noticeable (a bit like a Tron suit except not glowing). It's really just a way to say, okay, it's been decades, let's try to change some stuff here and there, we don't want to keep the same designs for 15 more years. But it still has to be familiar.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on May 25, 2015, 04:36:23 pm
I wonder if his hair will ever become gold/yellow again in The new series. I hope it doesn't become blue all the time when he transforms into SSJ.

They have invested a ton in merchandise for it, I dont think you should expect it to go away so soon after its made.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 25, 2015, 04:58:13 pm
Pretty sure the classic SSJ is gonna go the way of the Kaiohken. Except for Gohan and the kids I suppose. (but if anyone cared about them, they wouldn't have been pushed to the side for Goku to be brought back again and defeat Kid Buu...)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on May 25, 2015, 05:18:51 pm
Poor red haired God Goku. He's so irrelevant after just 2 years :(
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on May 27, 2015, 09:03:48 pm
Just to head up, the DB Super manga will be drawing by Toyotarō, the same guy that drawn Fukkatsu no F and DB Heroes mangas.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 29, 2015, 10:31:50 pm
I hope they do something for the earthlings aswell. They should also get stronger in The Series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on May 29, 2015, 10:33:49 pm
Just to head up, the DB Super manga will be drawing by Toyotarō, the same guy that drawn Fukkatsu no F and DB Heroes mangas.


AAAND... The same Toyotarõ who ironically maded the DB AF :v
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on May 30, 2015, 05:37:22 am
I hope they do something for the earthlings aswell. They should also get stronger in The Series.

^^This. Krillin, Yamcha and Tien deserve more.

AAAND... The same Toyotarõ who ironically maded the DB AF :v

Oh yeah, that's true. ;P
He made the best DB AF fan story for me.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 30, 2015, 09:00:39 am
Saiyans are always gaining more power alone and together. They should do the same for the humans like Tien, Yamcha and Krillin. I won't say fusion but, a new route for them is needed to gain more for the Characters. For example, I am not saying canon or uncanon but, when Tien fought Trunks in the tournament in Bojack's Movie, you could see that Tien was as strong as Trunks. This changed dramaticly when Trunks became SSJ and Tien was knocked into the water. A SSJ shouldn't discard humans so fast in The Series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on May 30, 2015, 06:19:24 pm
afaik, saiyan mixed with human is supossed to be stronger than pure saiyan, but there are stronger races in teh universe, it's just that goku/vegeta have an immense training/experience advantage over the rest of the cast.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 31, 2015, 09:52:59 pm
They developed intense training themselves. We know for example that Tien kept training but, We actually don't know how much. They could give him a boost very easly with a Great Story wich explains that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cazaki on June 01, 2015, 01:04:30 am
Goku looks too young
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on June 04, 2015, 08:40:33 pm
Dragon Ball Super TV Anime Debuts on July 5.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-06-04/dragon-ball-super-tv-anime-debuts-on-july-5/.88900

This is Excellent news. I can't wait to see more about this there.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on June 14, 2015, 04:26:29 pm
1st TV Spot is out!

And yes, we have Goten and Trunks.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on June 14, 2015, 05:58:21 pm
Meh.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 14, 2015, 07:26:22 pm
And yes, we have Goten and Trunks.
I don't get why they're still so young. Gohan and Videl are married, Pan was in the oven for the first movie, I thought I remember Bills saying he was going to sleep for 3 more years at the end of the first movie so the second should be after that (though I think she's 4 in the original DB epilogue ? And she should be around 2 in the Resurrection movie if 3 years have indeed passed), and yet they still look younger than Gohan did in the Cell saga (they look more like how he was between Freeza's return and the android saga).
That being said, if 3 years did pass between the first and second God movies, there should be less than 2 years before the original epilogue, so there's a chance this DBSuper series will go beyond the original Uub fight.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 14, 2015, 07:48:19 pm
it might actually cover the uub budokai.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on June 14, 2015, 08:53:58 pm
so this entire series takes place before DBZ's epilogue but after the movie?
this is kinda confusing...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 14, 2015, 09:13:52 pm
Why is it confusing ? It's pretty simple.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on June 14, 2015, 09:25:40 pm
Timeline: Fukkatsu no F -> Dragon Ball Super -> Uub appearance and 28th Tournament.

I don't know why, but I have a feeling about DB Super will have very few episodes O_O
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on June 14, 2015, 09:36:34 pm
Don't underestimate the toei's power to drag things and milk them good!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on June 14, 2015, 09:38:41 pm
That being said, if 3 years did pass between the first and second God movies, there should be less than 2 years before the original epilogue, so there's a chance this DBSuper series will go beyond the original Uub fight.
your post confused me! the 28th tournament happend ten years after the Buu Arc, there should be 7 years between the events of this series and the tournament.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 14, 2015, 10:00:45 pm
Kid Buu's death
Battle of Gods : Videl is pregnant, Bills says he'll sleep for 3 more years
Resurrection
Dragon Ball Super goes here
Uub tournament : Pan is 4 years old

Unless Bills wakes up early in Resurrection, then Pan is a bit over 2 years old during Resurrection. That means there is less than 2 years from Resurrection to the Uub tournament. And either way, since Videl is pregnant, Battle of Gods happens less than 5 years before the Uub tournament.

In the first place, if Pan is 4 during the Uub tournament and the Uub tournament happens 10 years after Kid Buu's death, then Goten and Trunks should have already been somewhere between 12 and 14 years old during Battle of Gods. They should have looked a bit older than they did during the Buu Saga. It worked well for Gohan, growing up between Namek, Freeza's return, the Android Saga, and the Cell Saga. But somehow they forgot to update the look of the kids for the Gods movie, then in the Resurrection movie (though I don't even know if they show up there), and clearly, still not here. But we know they look tall during the Uub tournament.

So I'm saying, someone screwed up and/or got a bit lazy on that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 14, 2015, 10:28:02 pm
Goku shot up in like a year.
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/a/a2/Goku4.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width/180?cb=20090810042933)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 14, 2015, 10:35:07 pm
There's three years (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/World_Martial_Arts_Tournament#23rd) between the Goku/Ten Shin Han tournament & death of King Piccolo and the Piccolo Jr./Goku tournament. But yeah, good point. Although it completely didn't happen with Gohan, so we might fall in the "it's true for a full blooded Saiyan but not for a half-blooded one" and Goten is half Saiyan... In short, I'm not completely convinced. It just feels weird.

Oh, especially because of Future Trunks. He was something like 13 during the first part of the Android attack, when Future Gohan dies (and then further when Future Trunks uses the time machine for the first time), and he was already much taller than Trunks in the Gods movie (who should already be around the same age). That fits with how much Cell Saga Gohan grew.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Moon Girard on June 15, 2015, 07:49:20 am
(http://i.imgur.com/HaMRmjG.png)
Fat Beerus and Female Whis confirmed.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on June 15, 2015, 08:30:26 am
Wait does that mean Fukkatsu no F is irrelevant to this show? I was already barely understanding why they were making a new series that occur before the end of the manga, but now they simply decide to have this series occur before even Fukkatsu no F? Is it to not make people mad and give Goku and Vegeta their old suits? Or is it simply because they don't wanna use Ssjgodss ? In that case why even create it? Ugh what were they thinking. Plus it seems we are getting a multiverse plot-line like BoG teased which imo will quickly get boring. Oh well I'll still watch it but I will drop it if it ever star to get boring.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 15, 2015, 10:16:30 am
I'm pretty sure the series happens after Resurrection. It was most likely created specifically to lead into the new series, in fact. My guess is, Battle of Gods was a "test" just for something Toriyama wanted to make, and when it worked, they decided to make a series about Bills and the whole multiverse, but they didn't want to limit themselves with the conditions they came up with for SSGod.
For the costumes, we've already seen Goku and Vegeta wear the new ones for the series, so maybe it'll span a long period of time that starts before the movies but quickly moves on to after the movies ? Krillin's, Gohan's, Videl's design there are the ones from the Gods movie too, right ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on June 15, 2015, 10:22:08 am
I hope you're right.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 17, 2015, 10:11:38 pm
First episode summary from http://www.orendsrange.com/2015/06/dragon-ball-super-additional-plot.html said:
Peace is back after Majin Buu's defeat. Because of this, Chi-Chi orders Goku to work in order to have money, but Goku wants to train even more. Meanwhile, Goten is on a journey with Trunks to find a present for his future sister-in-law Videl.
Ooh, so it starts right after Kid Buu's defeat and before the movies, okay, that explains the outfits in the visuals. And there's still a chance to see the kids grow, and of course, considering they already showed that Goku's Resurrection outfit would show up, it should span across the whole of the 10 years before the Uub tournament.
It's just a question of how long it will take to get past the two movies, then.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 17, 2015, 10:14:55 pm
told you
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: walt on June 17, 2015, 10:18:50 pm
It's just a question of how long it will take to get past the two movies, then.
I hope it never does. That Super Saiyan God Super Shun Goku Satsu Saiyan nonsense shouldn't be perpetuated. Let's just stick to enjoy Toriyama's celebration of his fan favorite creations.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 17, 2015, 10:43:45 pm
told you
That's weird because I can't see any post from you in the whole topic ! :P But it's still a fact that Goku's latest movie outfit was shown (well, for the manga at least, but I don't see why it would be different, that'd just be weird). Plus Bills and Whis are in anyway.
Let's just stick to enjoy Toriyama's celebration of his fan favorite creations.
But the whole God thing is exactly what Toriyama wants to do with it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on June 17, 2015, 10:44:25 pm
god ssj is good, imo, and i wish son goku luck in finding many ways to use it in his new career
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 17, 2015, 10:46:10 pm
told you
That's weird because I can't see any post from you in the whole topic ! :P But it's still a fact that Goku's latest movie outfit was shown (well, for the manga at least, but I don't see why it would be different, that'd just be weird). Plus Bills and Whis are in anyway.
Let's just stick to enjoy Toriyama's celebration of his fan favorite creations.
But the whole God thing is exactly what Toriyama wants to do with it.
considering the promo pic using two birus, maybe this show will be short episodes across continuity.
Like a whole season of Goku learning to drive.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 17, 2015, 10:55:36 pm
That's weird because I can't see any post from you in the whole topic ! :P

It's in the animu thread.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 17, 2015, 10:56:44 pm
i thought the new series was suppose to take place right after the buu saga but before the two movies? http://kotaku.com/the-first-dragon-ball-super-footage-1711197135

No, it follows the whole SSGod and ssgss from the movies, Vegeta and Goku both have their new outfit (Goku's outfit was shown a few weeks ago).

:p
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 17, 2015, 10:58:26 pm
My answer still stands !
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on June 18, 2015, 01:39:22 am
First episode summary from http://www.orendsrange.com/2015/06/dragon-ball-super-additional-plot.html said:
Peace is back after Majin Buu's defeat. Because of this, Chi-Chi orders Goku to work in order to have money, but Goku wants to train even more. Meanwhile, Goten is on a journey with Trunks to find a present for his future sister-in-law Videl.
I approve of this! My favorite thing about DB/Z and Akira Toriyama's stuff anymore are the goofy characters and their interactions with one another. I'm not a fan of the GodSSj stuff either, but I'll take it if it's what I need to see some proper DBZ again.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: QuickFist on June 23, 2015, 03:10:20 am
The first manga chapter is out
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 23, 2015, 11:38:48 am
(https://scontent-gru1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/10641283_10153000881663602_8687798630710887262_n.jpg?oh=fc7a4e86a96213526e8f19ec5cefe34d&oe=5630FBFF)

9 star ball... wat?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on June 23, 2015, 11:41:13 am
Probably a fake star ball, like the ones they sold in DragonBall (the first series when Goku is a child). :XD:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 23, 2015, 12:01:27 pm
Why would it be on a poster like that ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on June 23, 2015, 12:30:33 pm
Ah, it's a joke, don't take it seriously. I'm also wondering why there is a 9-star dragonball.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Moon Girard on June 23, 2015, 01:08:44 pm
Might be a misprint since the 6 star dragon ball is missing out of the 7.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: HadeS on June 23, 2015, 09:42:25 pm
Here is another picture of it (and also translated):
(http://i.imgur.com/4P1GupF.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on June 23, 2015, 10:09:13 pm
y'know having a 22 minutes show air on a 30 minutes slot is a privilege really.
in here a 20 minutes show takes a one hour slot with over (9000?) 30 minutes of fucking commercials!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on June 23, 2015, 10:19:17 pm
they just compress the commercials into a tenth of the time instead
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 26, 2015, 06:01:04 am
Just watched the movie and I liked it a lot!

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Only thing I heavily disliked was the unnecessary 3D used in some fights. Many of those scenes could've looked far better with just drawing, I don't know why they went through all that trouble rather than just animating those scenes like normal (I don't think it saves them THAT much money).

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 26, 2015, 05:41:26 pm
the 3d is barely noticeable,, it's about as good as kancolle's; they really really fucked up by haivng the opening scene be in the lowest quality 3d they used in the movie.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: walt on June 26, 2015, 05:50:42 pm
the 3d is barely noticeable,, it's about as good as
No, it's bad. It's noticeable.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 26, 2015, 06:16:04 pm
it did not bother me at all after the very first scene (which was the awful one).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 27, 2015, 06:05:17 pm

Shanpa is the fat!Bills.
It's still supposed to tie in to the Resurrection movie. If there's some opposition/rivalry between Bills and Shanpa, maybe it'll lead in to Bills training Goku and Vegeta.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 27, 2015, 06:15:24 pm
that doesnt fit because
s,mall spoiler
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

and more to the point

bigger spoiler
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on June 27, 2015, 06:27:40 pm
So the Battle of Gods/Ressurection of F movies are sounding more and more like they will be like the standard DBZ movies and non-canon with the main story.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 27, 2015, 06:30:50 pm
I don't get it, why are people having that impression lately? I don't recall DB Super changing anything related to BoG and this saga starts before Resurrection of F anyway (And will most likely timeskip it eventually).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on June 27, 2015, 06:54:45 pm
This show start before BoG but Beers is already up. He should still be sleeping.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: mkfreak89 on June 27, 2015, 07:15:51 pm
i dont understand why vegeta is using hes armor again ? he got rid of it after the cell games and now hes wearing it again.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on June 27, 2015, 07:16:48 pm
In buu saga he is wearing a training suit.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Zo_Warudo on June 27, 2015, 07:50:31 pm
This series takes place sometime after BoG and before RoF. Goku and such are aware of Bills and Whis' existence, as well as the other Gods. In terms of Vegeta's armour...I'm stumped on that too
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 27, 2015, 08:16:35 pm
We've been over that. The series starts just after Kid Buu's defeat, but it will tie into the Resurrection movie, so it's likely that it'll just cover most of the time gap between Kid Buu's defeat and the Uub tournament epilogue.
As for the armor, Vegeta had it in Battle of Gods too, as well as the short movie with Tarble (Vegeta's brother). The Majin Buu outfit was just his training gear, he came to the tournament with that because he didn't take it seriously, not thinking he'd need to fight a massive fight.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: mkfreak89 on June 29, 2015, 03:14:49 am
We've been over that. The series starts just after Kid Buu's defeat, but it will tie into the Resurrection movie, so it's likely that it'll just cover most of the time gap between Kid Buu's defeat and the Uub tournament epilogue.
As for the armor, Vegeta had it in Battle of Gods too, as well as the short movie with Tarble (Vegeta's brother). The Majin Buu outfit was just his training gear, he came to the tournament with that because he didn't take it seriously, not thinking he'd need to fight a massive fight.

i was going too go with your theory but i saw vegeta in the same training gear in the movie dbz wrath of the dragon and dbz fusion reborn.(although in fusion reborn hes already dead but gets hes body somehow back to help goku against janemba which means its probably during the time of the buu saga) i think toriyama liked hes regular saiyan costume with armor more than the one we saw in buu saga thats why he decided to use it again for the new series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 29, 2015, 09:43:39 am
The movies aren't really relevant, they're written by different people and they're specifically made to look close enough to what's actually happening in the series around the same time. I'm pretty sure it came up in the Tarble short movie that in normal time, he'd stick with his armor. Of course you could call that a change of mind since the Buu saga, but at the end of the day, that's just how it went.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on July 01, 2015, 02:50:45 pm
...BUT THE TORYAMA REFUSED TO CHANGE

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/07/01/dragon-ball-super-complete-showcase-event-reveals-series-plot/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on July 01, 2015, 09:31:39 pm
...BUT THE TORYAMA REFUSED TO CHANGE

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/07/01/dragon-ball-super-complete-showcase-event-reveals-series-plot/

Mh sounds a little like Toryama makes his own version of GT for the new Story part. ö.ö
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: walt on July 01, 2015, 11:00:20 pm
CHO DRAGON BALL GT
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on July 01, 2015, 11:06:40 pm
that alternate universe plot sounds intresting...will we see an evil goku or something? oh god, i just realized if that happens, people will start making crappy ides of "SUPPERE SAYAN 69 DEVIL DEMON GOD GOKUMEHAMEHAAAAA FORM GOKU" or something for said Goku,
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on July 01, 2015, 11:43:24 pm
Not that kind of alternate universe.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on July 01, 2015, 11:58:50 pm
That "Giant Super Dragon Balls" is a nice idea...

... I wonder what type of Shenlong will appears.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on July 02, 2015, 12:02:23 am
Not that kind of alternate universe.

then what kind?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on July 02, 2015, 12:11:01 am
The kind that was described in the first Gods movie. Just... completely different stuff, new worlds, new lifeforms, new ways to conceptualize strength, new laws of physics or whatever, not the "what if" kind of alternate universe.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on July 02, 2015, 12:13:32 am
The kind that was described in the first Gods movie. Just... completely different stuff, new worlds, new lifeforms, new ways to conceptualize strength, new laws of physics or whatever, not the "what if" kind of alternate universe.

oohhhhhhh. so basically like another galaxy or something.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on July 02, 2015, 12:17:06 am
Kind of, my guess is he simply wanted to get away from piling up power levels / SSJ34, and go back to "strange adventures coming across miraculous concepts and situations, while looking for the wish-granting Dragon Balls". Except with Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 02, 2015, 01:28:26 am
the last part explains why he had to make new dragon balls, such as to not be limited to namekians like what was implied in the freezer movie.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on July 02, 2015, 03:22:54 am
I look forward to the reworked SSJ4 as a new god form where the fur's black and the hair's pink.

I still want to hold to the idea that Broly's just one of those people in one of these alt. universes that they didn't have in theirs, unlikely that it'd be.  Being as popular as he is, would be nice to drop the non-canon bit now that the seires is returning.  While they have opportunity to do just what Dragonball did and GT attempted again, there's nothing stopping one or two universes from being identical, minus one or two key events like, say, a Legendary Super Saiyan.

Or maybe I'm just too used to DBM now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on July 02, 2015, 03:37:32 am
Kind of, my guess is he simply wanted to get away from piling up power levels / SSJ34, and go back to "strange adventures coming across miraculous concepts and situations, while looking for the wish-granting Dragon Balls". Except with Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan.

If only DragonBall Absalon and othe fan-fictions would drop the Super Saiyan form whatever thing....
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 05, 2015, 03:36:21 am
opening to super.

 very meh
Title: Needs more Hironobu Kageyama
Post by: S.D. on July 05, 2015, 10:53:15 am
Pretty meh.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on July 05, 2015, 04:47:02 pm
it's a good show.
Goku appears to share Chiaotzu's fatal weakness: arithmetic.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sookoll on July 05, 2015, 05:17:53 pm
It's pretty relaxing.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 05, 2015, 06:13:35 pm
first episode was ok. Im still confused when the show takes place..isnt birus suppose to be sleeping?!?!? in battle of the gods he had been sleeping since he visited vegetas father iirc. Its only been 6 months since buus defeat..and gohan and videl are out of school and getting married? lol jeez
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on July 05, 2015, 06:47:20 pm
yeah the demographic just wanna see fights and transformations. fuck everything else.
also, the singer of that opening sounded like he was about to sleep, fucking hire someone who gives a shit about DBZ and willing to ROCK for it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on July 05, 2015, 06:54:18 pm
reminds me of another terrible opening...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on July 05, 2015, 07:13:52 pm
first episode was ok. Im still confused when the show takes place..isnt birus suppose to be sleeping?!?!? in battle of the gods he had been sleeping since he visited vegetas father iirc. Its only been 6 months since buus defeat..and gohan and videl are out of school and getting married? lol jeez

They are re-writing the events of the movies, adapting to Arcs. I'm curious to see how Beerus will participate on DBS, if more antagonistic or more "Anti-Hero" concept.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on July 05, 2015, 08:34:57 pm
Its only been 6 months since buus defeat..and gohan and videl are out of school and getting married? lol jeez
The wish to erase everyone's memory is 6 months after Buu's defeat. I'm not seeing any info about how much time has passed since that. If Gohan and Videl are out of school, it would rather mean that this is a couple of years later. Satan built them a house and the journalists mention the world peace prize does seem to be coming late.
... Satan and Buu look so much like an old married couple.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 05, 2015, 09:05:42 pm
opening to super.
[youtube]OMShwUJKvB4[/youtube]
 very meh
Pretty meh.
SUPER meh lol.

Seriously, the whole opening is nice, but the music is terrible. :(
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on July 05, 2015, 09:08:41 pm
I liked the opening, but the ending is better XD

And obviously, I hope the second opening and ending can be better[Yeah, I think will exists a second dbs opening]
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on July 05, 2015, 09:19:13 pm
it probably will, since modern anime change songs fairly frequently and this show covers multiple arcs
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S. Jetstream on July 06, 2015, 12:31:24 am
What the hell goten is so short, even if he is one year younger than trunks he must look a bit like him 
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 06, 2015, 12:55:57 am
that's how height works for very young people, so it's ok.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on July 06, 2015, 03:19:35 am
Best shot of Vegeta training i ever saw
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: CozySquirtle on July 06, 2015, 05:03:53 pm
Seriously? Why are they doing this to Vegeta! D;

On topic: The first episode was good. The ending part was the best when Chi-Chi saw that 1-million zeni (or was it 10?), I thought for sure she was gonna kill over right there, lol.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lunchbillion on July 12, 2015, 02:11:57 am
I for one love the new intro. I had a smile on my face the whole time! :)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on July 12, 2015, 01:55:55 pm
i like that this episode is a payoff to the scene where Vegeta tells kid Trunks to try and hit him
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on July 13, 2015, 10:02:32 am
That flashback with Vegeta and Trunks was not re-drawn. They re-used the original scene and it was Great.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 13, 2015, 05:41:45 pm
yeah, it gives a nice sense of continuity.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on July 19, 2015, 09:55:39 pm
Looks like we're finally getting into BOF territory. Hopefully it won't be long until we get into new stuff.
Also they're still using some of the old footage which is good.

Although that footage of Goku vs Frieza that Whis showed Beerus, is that from Kai or is that new?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on July 19, 2015, 10:09:18 pm
i appreciate the guy who voices king kai is nearly 84 years old, but he really can't deliver a performance that matches the animation anymore
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 19, 2015, 10:59:18 pm
it's not helped that the budget is already over , good that fuckign running around scene.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on July 19, 2015, 11:05:16 pm
i appreciate the guy who voices king kai is nearly 84 years old, but he really can't deliver a performance that matches the animation anymore
Eh, I always felt a gap between the "over-acting animation" and the (Japanese) voice, I just figured it was kind of the trademark for his character.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 19, 2015, 11:19:06 pm
pretty much all voice actors are old as fuck in this show, right? I am not expecting that much in that sense.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on July 20, 2015, 11:58:01 am
Besides Videl losing her pants and having them come back in the very same scene something else was wrong there:

(https://scontent-gru1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11053139_580788365394364_8719832990939262464_n.jpg?oh=83f473bac64fc441a2cf289f249afc8f&oe=5648EE3D)

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: kakabot on July 24, 2015, 10:53:23 pm
Besides Videl losing her pants and having them come back in the very same scene something else was wrong there:

(https://scontent-gru1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11053139_580788365394364_8719832990939262464_n.jpg?oh=83f473bac64fc441a2cf289f249afc8f&oe=5648EE3D)

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!

I like how they changed it to white though, it implies that he got it from Goku.

(http://img12.deviantart.net/172a/i/2011/350/7/4/dragonball___goku_no_kekkon__shiki_by_nostal-d4j9mbm.png)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on July 24, 2015, 10:56:16 pm
um no, that's dumb because you can obviously see that the two suits are completely different aside from the color scheme.

gaddamn DBZ and its inconsistent continuity at times!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: kakabot on July 24, 2015, 11:13:18 pm
um no, that's dumb because you can obviously see that the two suits are completely different aside from the color scheme.

gaddamn DBZ and its inconsistent continuity at times!

Yeah what was I thinking they are soooooo different....one has 2 buttons and the other has 3...the only real difference is the undershirt which I don't know if you've ever worn a suit/tux before, but you can actually wear anything under the jacket. Its not all One Piece (hehehe)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on July 24, 2015, 11:17:35 pm
gaddamn DBZ and its inconsistent continuity at times!
Uh, it's just cosmetics, it's not like people are there one moment and millions of miles away the nex-- I mean, it's not like people are dead one moment and alive the ne-- dark hair one moment becoming blon... it's... it's a minor error on costumes, it'll be fixed on the disc release, it's nothing important.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 24, 2015, 11:57:16 pm
he can wear more than one custome during the wedding/after party, it's the bride's hairstyle that gets on my nerves.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on July 25, 2015, 12:53:25 pm
I want to see how that fat Beerus is getting involved with all of this. The part were Elder Kai connected with Beerus was Great. We now know that Beerus was the one that sealed Elder Kai in the Z-Sword. Episode 4 should be good aswell. The Pilaf Gang will appear in the 4th Episode.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: The 100 Mega Shock! on July 25, 2015, 01:02:41 pm
i think Piccolo can probably utilize his Clothes Beam for more formal wear too.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on July 25, 2015, 01:05:49 pm
So, this happened inside buu back in DBZ

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/f/f8/The_Innards_of_Buu_-_Vegeta_crushes_Potara.PNG/revision/latest?cb=20130204162429)

Yet Old Kai now has them back. I don't recall him or anyone being able to recreate the potara earrings and even then, why would he do such thing to begin with when no one's going to use them?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on July 25, 2015, 11:04:51 pm
That reminds me of something:
Now that Goku and Vegeta can both go SSGSS, could we potentially see SSGSS Gogeta?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on July 25, 2015, 11:09:30 pm
Probably not, he was a movie-only thing, and Gotenks didn't really work out, popularity-wise (seeing the treatment he got). Plus it'd be too much of a reminder of DBGT, so I'm not sure Toriyama would care to go there.
Not to mention he's doing this because he wants to get away from power levels and wants to do new concepts, fusions and absorptions are probably not on the list.

That works too.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on July 25, 2015, 11:11:07 pm
Goku and Vegeta's behaviours agaisn't Kid Buu pretty much sealed the possibility of ever seeing a fusion of Goku and Vegeta in Dragon Ball. Sorry. (not that I dislike that idea cuz Vegetto was the only good fusion character so far. Gogeta a shit).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on July 26, 2015, 04:18:16 pm
Goku and Vegeta's behaviours agaisn't Kid Buu pretty much sealed the possibility of ever seeing a fusion of Goku and Vegeta in Dragon Ball. Sorry. (not that I dislike that idea cuz Vegetto was the only good fusion character so far. Gogeta a shit).
counterpoint, in the bog movie when goku is arguing with kaio after getting his shit kicked around he complains that maybe he will have to convince vegeta to fuse with him again.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Kenshin X on July 26, 2015, 04:51:22 pm
Well the movie did have a few differences than what it should have had..
Goku actually fought beerus in all 3 forms in kai. like, he went SSJ failed, then 2, then 3 rather than going 1,2,3 before even fighting.
after he lost he said the only way he could stand up to Beerus is if he fused with Vegeta again (again, meaning Vegetto) but he also said that he doubted that fusing would help any
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on July 29, 2015, 08:51:50 am
Bringing Vegetto back would be wheird as they focus on Goku's trainings and newer stronger forms. It's all about Goku surpassing himself and becoming stronger. Goku complained about his SSG power he got from his friends as it was a level he couldn't reach by his own. So he actually says that he doesn't want any help but only wants Vegeta's support in becomming Vegetto?

The potara's are destroyed and it doesn't seem necessary to scrap the whole thing that happened during the Buu Saga as they refused to ever use the earrings again. and Vegetto back. It would be strange for further development and a excuse to bring back Vegetto. I could understand if Beerus challenged both Goku and Vegeta at the same time. I could then say that they could do so but if time will play a role, then I guess Gogetta would be the best choice. Besides that, the potara fusion is permanent. What could cause them to split in Goku and Vegeta again?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on August 04, 2015, 05:08:40 pm
King kai voice actor is horrible, he cant even raise his voice anymore
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on August 05, 2015, 12:33:19 am
Besides that, the potara fusion is permanent. What could cause them to split in Goku and Vegeta again?

Whis could pull a deus ex machina skill out of nowhere or something like that, or Toriyama could just forget that the Potara Fusion is supposed to be permanent, and create another continuity error what would be even more likely.  :devilish:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on August 05, 2015, 01:16:55 am
idk how i feel about the super heavy black outlines and yea king kais vice actor needs to just pass the role to somebody else.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 05, 2015, 02:03:25 am
King kai voice actor is horrible, he cant even raise his voice anymore
he ruined all teh scenes he was in, really; it felt like a really bad dub whenever he talked.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on August 05, 2015, 02:16:48 am
Indeed he ruined them all. I hope the story finally starts moving forward though, so many episodes telling us the story we already know... it's giving me GT vibes at this point.

Also aren't dinosaurs still alive in the DB universe? Yet Beerus killed them all? wat.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 05, 2015, 02:48:06 am
Well, they came back, quite simply. I don't see any problem.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 05, 2015, 03:01:47 am
at this pace it will take them 24 episodes just go get after the freeza movie, here's hoping they give us a bone inbetween teh beerus one and the freeza one so we don't have to wait a whole year before we get to the new stuff.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Pal on August 05, 2015, 03:25:37 am
They have to explain how they reached SSGSS form.

In the movie it was like "Oh yeah we have this form now" so I'm hoping that's the new stuff before the inevitable Resurrection of F arc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 05, 2015, 06:34:52 am
yah, resurrection of F had the lowest stake in a db movie including the ones with goten and trunk just fucking around.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on August 10, 2015, 03:32:23 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty


...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on August 10, 2015, 03:39:15 am


I can resume this in one sentence:

"Wait the BluRays"
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 10, 2015, 10:15:33 am
I can't understand why they redid it that way and didn't reuse anything from the movie.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ZombieBrock on August 10, 2015, 10:24:44 am
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...

Straight up Youtube video.......i couldnt believe how shotty it was done
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Staubhold on August 10, 2015, 10:28:56 am
That´s the one that made me laugh...

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ZombieBrock on August 10, 2015, 10:32:14 am
 :brood: .............. Their Are No Words, my 5 y/o daughter could put more detail than that
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ESFAndy011 on August 11, 2015, 02:11:35 am
Well, it's getting awfully kid-friendly and the animation is just not that good... if we end up getting another Vegeta karaoke scene as well, I swear to God...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 11, 2015, 06:22:13 pm
and when someone complains about japanese animators wages being low remind them that a japanese guy got paid 5 dollars to draw that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 11, 2015, 07:06:03 pm
Yeah, but it took him, like 20 hours !
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lord Kain on August 11, 2015, 09:48:31 pm
so Dragon Ball Super its getting the SoG treatment too I see...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: kakabot on August 13, 2015, 10:43:38 pm
I was hyped as fuck for this episode...until I saw it....I was hoping for a better version of the fight from BoG....I was wrong...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Kenshin X on August 13, 2015, 10:57:56 pm
Explanation:
1. Budget
2. Different animation teams/studios.
3. Lazy
4. they pay animators shit anyway, so the animating team for episode 5 decided to make it shit as well apparently.
5. no more fucking derp faces
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 13, 2015, 11:08:22 pm
But what's difficult to comprehend is that they didn't even take the work they have already done on the movie. Even if they would need to rework it a bit, reedit it here and there so it fits the new dialog lines if needed, why start over from nothing ? Was it just too different from how the director wanted the fight to go (I don't remember and I'm too lazy to compare) ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on August 16, 2015, 11:34:38 pm
i havent seen anything past episode 3.

are they still in namek?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 17, 2015, 12:02:37 am
Episode 5 was Goku getting creamed on King Kai's planet, 6 is Bills crashing Bulma's birthday party and Vegeta trying to keep it cool.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on August 17, 2015, 12:05:53 am
Reason to watch Dragon Ball Super:
(http://puu.sh/jE2UG/8d2914cac1.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Yahya on August 17, 2015, 12:12:17 am
La ferme = The farm. SO I take it that uncle Vegeta is a farmer now? :XD: :XD:

I wasn't expecting to see Beerus in this at all. I guess I might just watch this!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on August 17, 2015, 12:19:52 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d88w5KDNl84
That goes along pretty well with this.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 17, 2015, 12:20:36 am
La ferme = The farm.
No.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sookoll on August 17, 2015, 01:41:33 am
(http://i.imgur.com/J16sQCy.jpg)

That Videl thousand yard stare.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on August 17, 2015, 02:04:40 am
Thanks for the new avatar, chump!

*grabs & runs*
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cybaster on August 17, 2015, 02:13:10 am
Need to watch episode 6.

Anyway, related to episode 5 :
https://secure.avaaz.org/en/petition/Toei_Animation_Please_respect_Dragon_Ball_and_his_fans

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CL-5sMrWsAEL2Lj.jpg:large)

(http://static.lexpress.fr/medias_10540/w_2000,c_fill,g_north/dragon-ball-super-4_5396521.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: balmsold on August 17, 2015, 03:00:30 am
(http://i.imgur.com/RXu3cPi.png)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Yahya on August 17, 2015, 03:10:22 am
La ferme = The farm.
No.

Well, my French is terrible. Mind telling me, I could use the knowledge (and I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with "close" or "closed" in the aforementioned context).

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CL-5sMrWsAEL2Lj.jpg:large)

(http://static.lexpress.fr/medias_10540/w_2000,c_fill,g_north/dragon-ball-super-4_5396521.jpg)

MY EYES THEY WRITHE IN PAAAAIN @_@ @_@
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on August 17, 2015, 03:13:31 am
I got "shut up", which fits well with the situation and spanish subbed episode I watched today.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 17, 2015, 03:13:43 am
La ferme = The farm.
No.
Well, my French is terrible. Mind telling me, I could use the knowledge (and I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with "close" or "closed" in the aforementioned context).
It means STFU.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Yahya on August 17, 2015, 03:15:56 am
La ferme = The farm.
No.
Well, my French is terrible. Mind telling me, I could use the knowledge (and I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with "close" or "closed" in the aforementioned context).
It means STFU.

Holy hell, Sounds tons better than "tais-toi" :rofl:

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on August 17, 2015, 08:57:24 am
(http://i.imgur.com/C2pe69B.png)
roughly translates as:

"Product quality when you buy at La Curacao"
"When you buy from the competition"
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on August 17, 2015, 07:27:04 pm
I just got around to watching this episode (EP. 6), and I have to say it's pretty decent. Seems Vegeta in particular is getting a lot of development here like with the flashback with Beerus (it shows he really does care for his people subsciously) but it's a shame being TOEI they're making Krillin the plucky comic relief like in the old movies. You can one-note Chi-Chi and Muten Roshi all you want but leave Krillin alone!  :bigcry:

The animation's still pretty bad but it's definitely a step up from the mock-worthy animation from the last episode.

But I like how they made Beerus more antagonistic during his confrontation with Majin Boo but he went overboard. I mean, I wanted Majin Boo to get his pink raggedy-ass kicked all over the place but I didn't want him to die (almost).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on August 21, 2015, 05:16:43 pm
I cant be mad at a show that has yamcha bragging about being the strongest there is.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: balmsold on August 21, 2015, 07:51:46 pm
no one is going to talk about this ? ---- > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crz4yTVAnCA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: walt on August 21, 2015, 08:05:51 pm
This guy proved a great point. You only need a handful of well drawn keyframes to make the whole thing look amazing.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on August 22, 2015, 06:36:50 am

this still cracks me up
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on August 24, 2015, 01:20:38 am
so vegeta finally turns super saiyan 2 :p
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 24, 2015, 01:29:27 am
I'm pretty sure he did in the Buu saga. I'm sure there are people who think he couldn't do it before going Majin (which isn't proven), but surely he must use that form after the Vegetto break up.
edit - found the image I had in mind (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:Vegeta_powering_up_to_SS2.jpg) from the manga (and the chapter it's in (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Vegeta_Puts_His_Life_on_the_Line!)).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on August 24, 2015, 03:11:45 am
dont touch my bulma ssj2 ex plus form
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ZombieBrock on August 24, 2015, 05:27:13 am
dont touch my bulma ssj2 ex plus form

 :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cybaster on August 24, 2015, 08:20:34 am
Which is actually much stronger than SSJ3.
Would make for a good mugen character.

Also, even gods of destruction seem to look for Dragon Balls (see manga, chapter 3). How original LOL.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ZombieBrock on August 24, 2015, 11:42:43 am
i do like the new dialog for Beerus though , in the new episode his Rant about pudding was so much better than in BOG's
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on August 24, 2015, 12:00:06 pm
Which is actually much stronger than SSJ3.
Would make for a good mugen character.

Also, even gods of destruction seem to look for Dragon Balls (see manga, chapter 3). How original LOL.
I didnt read the manga but in the episode he wanted to eat them.

If dende can sense his energy and the others cant, then these gods are the same kind of power Dende ( and kami) use. Wonder if that will come around and be a plot point down the line.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 24, 2015, 03:08:15 pm
Also, even gods of destruction seem to look for Dragon Balls (see manga, chapter 3). How original LOL.
I didnt read the manga but in the episode he wanted to eat them.
Not Bills, the other one.
Apparently the manga must be something like one chapter every two weeks, it's at the third chapter, and yet it's still faster than the anime already (and further than the next episode, probably).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on August 25, 2015, 10:43:26 pm
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlrcxeQau1E[/youtube]
this still cracks me up

 :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3: :laugh3:

Now talking serious, DBS is really going in a depressing way. I expected as fuck for DBS to watch this kind of poor animation? Seriously Toei?
Doesn't matter if the animation team are different now, it's FUCKING DRAGON BALL dammit! >:(
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on August 26, 2015, 12:17:42 am
Doesn't matter if the animation team are different now, it's FUCKING DRAGON BALL dammit! >:(

Dragon Ball has never had outstanding animation outside of OVAs or movies.
Take off the nostalgia goggles/stop having unreasonable expectations.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cybaster on August 26, 2015, 12:43:38 am
Well, my expectations was to have a sort of Naruto quality animation and drawings.
I wasn't expecting to have a Battle of Gods quality on all the series, obviously, but not something so bad.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 26, 2015, 12:58:13 am
Doesn't matter if the animation team are different now, it's FUCKING DRAGON BALL dammit! >:(

Dragon Ball has never had outstanding animation outside of OVAs or movies.
Take off the nostalgia goggles/stop having unreasonable expectations.
at least he is not like those idiots that company promotional art of 90s anime with current anime's transitional frames.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on August 26, 2015, 01:13:48 am
i wouldn't watch anything Toei makes nowadays. ill just wait for the manga to finish and read it all at once.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 26, 2015, 01:21:15 am
that's a decent take to have,, unless you like pretty cure.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on August 26, 2015, 05:46:19 am
that's right.
[avatar]http://i.imgur.com/py1F3kM.png[/avatar]
and while you plebs endure yet another dissapointment from toei made specifically to cash in on your nostalgia i'm enjoying one of the best precure series with a memorable cast (at least the main ones) with an interesting plot (well, most of it is recycled stuff form previous seasons but done better) and exciting action scenes which may not be long or have high stakes but at the very least are much more exciting that all of sailor moon crystal and have less beam spaming and are less rushed than saint seiya soul of gold and deffinetily look better than dragon ball super

it also has better transformation sequences than all 3 mentioned above as well as better team chemistry and better transformaiton sequences (we also finally have a yellow cure who is not only relevant and not just either filler or pedo-bait but is also best girl!)

Strong! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOL7ZDy9EW0)
Kind!  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMsL5wN9AYQ)
Beautiful! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_jEE5cVnvg)
Go! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8IRag7qZWs)
Princess Precure! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJPUz4yZHtk)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on August 26, 2015, 06:16:55 am
I just presumed "precure" was an anime disease not yet cured.

I've not been following Super all that closely, just up to the Briefs' family vacation thus far.  Still not sure why they need to retell the whole recent movie, when you have the actual movie there.  Spend the time reworking Broly into something better and canon or something.  But it's been good up to that point so far at least.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on August 26, 2015, 06:23:48 am
I just presumed "precure" was an anime disease not yet cured.

Shhhhhh, stop namedropping that anime so he stops talking about it  :wall:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on August 26, 2015, 06:27:26 am
oh no, its too late. but i'll save it for the general anime thread instead.
Spend the time reworking Broly into something better and canon or something.
why would you want them to re-invent a character whose only redeeming quality is being stronger and bigger than everyone else until the plot decides it's stime to wrap things up and have the good guys win with the magic of friendship. and who also has the stupidest reason to hate the mc (fuck,he had more of a reason to hate vegeta instead but that went nowhere because vegeta is irrelevant either way)

they should instead focus on more interesting characters and plots (all while not making it too obvious that they are just pulliing power levels up their asses for the convenince of the "plot")
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on August 26, 2015, 06:36:59 am
You kinda just listed why he could use the reworking as per his backstory, as for why bothering, simple enough; amongst the many DBZ movies he's one of if not the most popular movie villain.  Given they now intend for multiple universes, likely some sharing some crucial points in time and some diverting quite drastically, and each focusing on a God of Destruction, it's not that big a stretch to change Broly's story to make him the god of his universe with his unique form.

A little mental sickness here for Broly focused on Goku and any sharing his common Saiyan appearance, a little god training there for Godku, heck you can work in where he achieves Super Cyan to stop Broly.

That's just my suggestion though.  Whatever they have planned, I'd just like to see them possibly acknowledge the other movie villains in some form.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on August 26, 2015, 06:59:04 am
I believe we had enough stupid shit with Broly already and I totally agree with Wolf about the character overall. He is like every movies opponent before the Tapion Movie = A recycling of things we already saw before. Broly is basically some sort of weird potala fusion between the Incredible Hulk and Trunks. I mean come on he looks more like Super Trunks on steroid than a real good ol' Dragon Ball opponent like King Piccolo, Cell or even Freeza. I believe Dragon Ball Heroes proved multiple times how bad of an idea it would be to do more content with this guy, I know its a fan favorite but bringing him back would be pure stupid fan service.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on August 26, 2015, 08:59:46 am
As much as I love Flowagirl's Brolly, fuck the character. He's over rated and doesn't deserve more attention than he's already gotten from the series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 26, 2015, 09:58:51 am
Given they now intend for multiple universes, likely some sharing some crucial points in time and some diverting quite drastically
It's still not supposed to be alternate universes as in alternate timelines, at least not the way bog presented it. It would be terrible, too.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cybaster on August 26, 2015, 03:26:04 pm
We already have Dragon Ball Multiverse for that, and I'm more than happy with it.

Anyway, Freeza could probably destroy Broly if he trained 3 or 4 months LOL.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on August 26, 2015, 06:22:06 pm
Spoiler: Question for people who read the Super Manga (click to see content)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 26, 2015, 07:18:42 pm
I've read the exact same manga as you did, but I know the answer, I can tell, it's
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on August 30, 2015, 12:16:18 pm
Doesn't matter if the animation team are different now, it's FUCKING DRAGON BALL dammit! >:(

Dragon Ball has never had outstanding animation outside of OVAs or movies.
Take off the nostalgia goggles/stop having unreasonable expectations.




Title: Hyperbole?
Post by: S.D. on August 30, 2015, 12:40:27 pm
Would it be acceptable to rephrase that to "rarely"? Because out of the plethora of episodes in both DB and DBZ, only very specific episodes by specific directors have decent animation (So only a couple of scenes in those videos. The rest rely on the whole "They're moving so fast they're teleporting" argument to save a bunch of animation frames)
I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow0hRopXlEI other than the questionable style, even Naruto does that, but again it's not the norm.

If not then I got #REKT'D
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on August 30, 2015, 12:44:57 pm
Db is actually widely known for having some of the best returning animation directors of the time.

Some animation classes use them as examples a lot.

( thats part of why there are so many complaints about that one episode, it stood out as specially bad )
Title: Re: Hyperbole?
Post by: Ryūku Tsukuyomi on August 30, 2015, 02:18:38 pm
So basically its okay to accept an animation even worse than some of the worse episodes of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z? in 2015? it was more acceptable in the 90' because most of the anime suffered from the sames problems, but in our modern society its unacceptable especially on such an important franchise. Hunter x Hunter 2011 is the best example to show that its not a matter of "too much episodes", its just that they don't give a shit. But then again we should have expected that from Toei (well I did because I had the courage to try their 2000' productions).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 02:26:27 pm
For 10 minutes of good animation, there were like 5 hours of terrible animation in DBZ. Most of the Cell Saga, outside of some specific parts of some fights, was just plain bad.
Also, the techniques have changed so much, I really don't think they would be capable of recreating similar fight scenes today as they did in some of those videos. Good animation today is something else that requires more work.
Title: Re: Hyperbole?
Post by: S.D. on August 30, 2015, 02:41:57 pm
( thats part of why there are so many complaints about that one episode, it stood out as specially bad )
I thought the complains were because it was basically the same scene from BoG but with classic Toei QUALITY and people were wondering why didn't they recycle the footage from the movie.

But then again we should have expected that from Toei (well I did because I had the courage to try their 2000' productions).
Yeah, Toei can't really compare to Madhouse at this point, the problem might be that Toei goes for quantity over quality (How many Toei shows are airing this season? Whatever is the current Precure series, Dragon Ball Super, Saint Seiya Soul of Gold  and tons of other shows, while Madhouse is only working on Ushio & Tora and Overlord)
And again, yeah. Those series might have one or two episodes with above average animation (I know choreography on early Precure series was really good) but as pointed out, it's not proportional to the length of the series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on August 30, 2015, 02:59:02 pm
Would it be acceptable to rephrase that to "rarely"? Because out of the plethora of episodes in both DB and DBZ, only very specific episodes by specific directors have decent animation (So only a couple of scenes in those videos. The rest rely on the whole "They're moving so fast they're teleporting" argument to save a bunch of animation frames)
I mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow0hRopXlEI other than the questionable style, even Naruto does that, but again it's not the norm.

If not then I got #REKT'D

I'll admit DB and especially DBZ (around when Goku becomes SSJ) is filled with ups and downs in animation quality between episodes but Super has been consistently average/poor. Even GT looks better than Super.

I'd rather art/animation with some rough patches than something that's overall unappealing to look at.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 03:16:39 pm
but Super has been consistently average/poor
There's been 7 8 episodes of Super, you can't compare that to the several hundreds of DBZ. You can easily find series of 10 episodes in a row in DBZ that were consistently bad. The problem with Super is that there was one super weird episode (the Pilaf Gang episode) followed by an absolutely horrible episode (the fight) that already had a better version in the movie, and no one can understand why the hell Toei redid that sequence so badly.
Quote
Why can't it Modern DB be more like the 2008 Special?
Because it costs money...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on August 30, 2015, 03:23:07 pm
*sees Toei being criticized*
alright im gonna jump on the bandwagon. i just can't miss a chance to harp on Toei, i just hate them too much.
Toei is a terrible animation company, it holds rights to the most popular mangas in japan and it knows that, therefore it also know that however shitty it's animes are, people (specifically kids) are gonna eat it up like it was god sent because of the popularity of the source.

they ruined the one piece anime, alot of design choices, subtle details and easter eggs that Oda put in the manga were ignored for the sake of rushing out episodes.
there's a whole tumblr account dedicated to mocking them, and pointing out the their terrible animation and drawing. (http://oen-peice.tumblr.com/)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thagr8test on August 30, 2015, 03:44:47 pm
Bad animation aside I don't understand the draw of this series or the more recent movies. All of these so called new changes to the series seem superficial at best imo and its seems they've literally taken things people said as sarcasm about the series as inspiration ex. " whats next blue hair super saiyan? " the name of that transformation alone is ridiculous but seriously after years of absence beside those terrible games they've been making that's the best they could do? I just feel like they've been doing the bare minimum all this time with these half ass developments for the series but a little bad animation is where people draw the line? Kaioken goku is now god form and thats fine, hey let's slap blue hair on goku and vegeta and bring back frieza only to immediately kill him yep that's fine and hey while we're at it lets continue the trend of EVERYONE not  named goku or vegeta is absolutely irrelevant and vegeta's sole purpose is to perpetually make new transformations useless and thats all fine but a few shit scenes is what you guys are debating?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 03:47:57 pm
Yo, you're a couple years late, that's how it's been since Battle of Gods. The whole Internet has been over that already. It's pointless to complain about that again, the current topic is the bad quality of the episodes because that's what's happening right now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thagr8test on August 30, 2015, 04:11:36 pm
I'm not trying to redirect the topic I was just saying in the bigger scheme of things at this point the lack of quality that the animation has goes hand in hand with the lack of quality of the overall content but yes that animation is laughably bad and I understand people feeling like in this day and age you shouldn't see that kind of stuff but they still use a lot of their old practices in animation in japan they just switched from hand drawn to digital so this won't be the last time you see corners cut to stay on budget
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on August 30, 2015, 04:32:14 pm
I dont think any of this would be so bad if there hadnt been the movies first.

As it stands it looks as if the movies were a test to gauge interest and the show was approved later.

Before we had no idea what was going to happen, so it was always interesting, now we already know how the plotline continues so everything else feels odd.
This new episode had vegeta fight with beerus, next episode seems to be about goku unlocking God form Another 2 episodes for the beerus vs goku fight and i guess we start getting original material then?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on August 30, 2015, 05:22:00 pm
i'm sure the whole botg movie will be covered in the 1st cour (12/13 epsidoes). THEN we might get something new.... or a retelling of ressurection of f

am i the only one who would have preffered a kai version of the original DB? it would have been a good way to cash on our nostalgia while giving toriyama time to work on new material. plus i like the original DB much better than Z and the original just doesnt get the love it deserves.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 06:07:24 pm
i'm sure the whole botg movie will be covered in the 1st cour (12/13 epsidoes). THEN we might get something new.... or a retelling of ressurection of f
This is ep 8, ep 9 unlocks SSG, then the fight will be over by the end of ep 11, so yeah, first cour = BoG. Resurrection should come later, I expect the second cour will include Goku's and Vegeta's training under Bills and Whis, likely have Vegeta try out the God form. Toei can easily make it last until cour 3 by the time we start talking about Resurrection (we'll get some shenanigans with Sorbet and co. at this point for one or two more episodes before they get a good lead on the Dragon Balls). The Dragon Balls need a year to be used a second time, so Sorbet and Pilaf can have some fillers.
And then there's the whole thing with Champa that we still haven't seen in the anime for some reason. How come the manga is already there but there hasn't been a word about it in the anime ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on August 30, 2015, 06:22:06 pm
Ive not been following the manga, what has going on with champa? Was he already introduced by now?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 06:24:11 pm
There have been three chapters, Champa came up in the second (or maybe even the end of the first), and he's interacted with Shibito and Elder Kai already, mentioning he was looking for those giant wish orbs that people don't remember still exist.
I'm wondering if Toei isn't dragging because they haven't bothered to make him ready for animations and voicing, and they're just running with what they already have from the movies. Hell, I don't even know if Toei will some day catch up with the Champa storyline at all, because after all, nothing actually said the manga and the anime would be the same thing, IINM. Toriyama wrote his new story but it's possible Toei doesn't give a shit, at least not right now while they have stuff they can still use.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on August 30, 2015, 06:38:45 pm
Has anything in the manga been touched upon by the animated series?
Since there was a scene already with kibitoshin and elder kai I would think they would have touched on that in the manga.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 30, 2015, 06:54:07 pm
?
Spoiler: Spoiler for the anime I guess (click to see content)
It's a whole arc that's already started in the manga, and the anime shows nothing of it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: HQ on August 31, 2015, 12:36:58 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aZN0vd3_700b.jpg)

it's a shame how this whole thing is animated/drawn.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on September 05, 2015, 02:16:49 am
(http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aZN0vd3_700b.jpg)

it's a shame how this whole thing is animated/drawn.

Fake. Super doesn't look that good. :P
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on September 06, 2015, 03:47:40 am
Spoiler: EXTREMOUS SPOILER (click to see content)


Okay, that's a symbolic moment from SSG ritual.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on September 06, 2015, 03:57:21 am
please commit seppuku
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on September 06, 2015, 05:29:51 am
Yeah no.
Terrible joke.
Also, here
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee495/DBZGTKOSDH/SuperSaiyan2GirlsHeroEliteBerserker_zpsedd3d241.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bea on September 06, 2015, 05:50:22 am
Lunch did this getting blond thing decades before Goku figured it out, so meh.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on September 06, 2015, 05:55:58 am
Yeah no.
Terrible joke.
Also, here
(http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee495/DBZGTKOSDH/SuperSaiyan2GirlsHeroEliteBerserker_zpsedd3d241.jpg)

I know it's a bad joke. But this is the first time I see a "Female SS" in a DB animation[And maybe in Manga] and not in a Spin-OFF game.
Title: You never specified SPINOFF WITH CAPS.
Post by: S.D. on September 06, 2015, 06:48:51 am
I know it's a bad joke.
Good.

. But this is the first time I see a "Female SS" in a DB animation[And maybe in Manga] and not in a Spin-OFF game.
Wait so are you serious or not?


And there's no need to quote the image when the reply is on the same page.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 06, 2015, 01:22:46 pm
this is the first time I see a "Female SS" in a DB animation[And maybe in Manga] and not in a Spin-OFF game.
Watch the opening animation for the game, or read the manga based on the game. Problem solved.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on September 06, 2015, 10:04:13 pm
Did Chi-Chi just defend Vegeta's parenting skills? If so, it destroys any notion of her hating him (or vice-versa). I'm glad they finally decided to write her and Muten Roshi outside their tropes. Hope they keep in that scene of Goku's vision.

The pacing is just I expected... the entire episode was around the ritual, and the animation's just as bland and stilted as usual.

The most interesting thing about this episode is the SSJG transformation is treated as more of a transformation of a god.... and SSJ Videl. I also liked how Mr. Satan knocked Gohan away from hugging his wife.
Mr. Satan > Bulma > Gohan confirmed
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 06, 2015, 10:10:35 pm
When did Chichi hate Vegeta ? Unless it's something the old anime added.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on September 06, 2015, 10:28:24 pm
When did Chichi hate Vegeta ? Unless it's something the old anime added.

Never, just some fans seem to believe that... it's about as baseless as her hating Piccolo.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on September 13, 2015, 10:35:14 am
Vegeta's rage about Bulma being hit was Great. It was also good to see that Oolong even got a part to show up and try to defend the world.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: HQ on September 24, 2015, 03:28:03 pm
saw this today...

(http://i.imgur.com/HQFLZEi.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Yahya on September 24, 2015, 03:42:28 pm
^^^ The Backyardigans must've taken some serious Saiyan steroids :P
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Tyrant Belial on September 24, 2015, 08:01:14 pm
It's fan-made, with the express purpose to look like the Backyardigans.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 27, 2015, 02:39:42 pm
Oh hey, so that's where the budget for the previous 10 episodes went.
Shattering the entirety of the universe by four blows meeting each other, wow. I wonder how the Freeza battle will go, now.
Rendering all the last few games that gave moves to SSG Goku and Bills useless, yay ! New wave of games with updated movesets, yay !
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sima Shi on September 27, 2015, 06:44:17 pm
i gonna admit that episode 12 is awesome you cant deny that one
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Xhominid on September 27, 2015, 10:24:27 pm
Oh hey, so that's where the budget for the previous 10 episodes went.
Shattering the entirety of the universe by four blows meeting each other, wow. I wonder how the Freeza battle will go, now.
Rendering all the last few games that gave moves to SSG Goku and Bills useless, yay ! New wave of games with updated movesets, yay !

It also makes a certain controversial event that happened even more pointless and full of scrutiny.
It's up to you to figure what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on September 27, 2015, 10:38:26 pm
Oh hey, so that's where the budget for the previous 10 episodes went.
Shattering the entirety of the universe by four blows meeting each other, wow. I wonder how the Freeza battle will go, now.
Rendering all the last few games that gave moves to SSG Goku and Bills useless, yay ! New wave of games with updated movesets, yay !

It also makes a certain controversial event that happened even more pointless and full of scrutiny.
It's up to you to figure what I'm talking about.

I have no idea what you are talking about.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Dycize on September 27, 2015, 10:48:51 pm
Probably this (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2137904).
But don't quote me on that.
I haven't been watching Super a lot (stopped at episode 4 for now, got busy).
How is it so far overall? Still an episodic version of the movie?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 27, 2015, 10:57:20 pm
Yeah, the Goku-Bills fight started last episode, and this week upped it to eleven and then some. A bunch of episodes were absolutely shitty, but clearly it was because this one ate all the budget (last week was nice too). The fight itself is pretty good. But then, it's still a retelling of the first movie (they're pushing the stakes up a lot, though), and they're clearly taking their sweet time, the fight is not even over yet (well, it took its time getting into it, the fight is about to take three episodes which is to be expected).
The manga summed up the entire preparation to the fight in literally five panels (but OTOH it missed this part about the both of them almost shattering the universe in two blows each) and is already moving on to the Champa (or whatever his name is, I can't remember) arc. With "giant wish orbs" that are apparently hinted to be the size of a freaking planet.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on September 28, 2015, 08:08:28 am
i gave up on this series until it gets to a new story-telling point, the animation looks awesome in some episodes wont lie but i dont really like a re-telling of a movie in a smaller,episodic format. I liked the whole "Slice-of-life" style it had in the first episode, it was fresh and a nice change of pace from a series that goes straight into battle mode.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on September 28, 2015, 09:45:39 pm
...so the manga

Spoiler: Manga Spoilers (click to see content)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 28, 2015, 09:59:12 pm
Wow wow wow, calm down there.
Wrong, wrong, right (we've known that since the first movie), wrong and right.
It looks like your source of scanlation is screwed, try one that's usually more reliable (http://readms.com/r/dragon_ball_super/004/2939/1). (though it seems to still make mistakes, the "far off distant universe" is clearly wrong as it doesn't make sense, it's probably supposed to be far off distant galaxy)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on September 28, 2015, 10:07:03 pm
Fucking mangafox.

Thanks.

But i swear
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 28, 2015, 10:09:27 pm
I'm 90% sure this is a mistake, it should be galaxy. I haven't seen the raw, but still. They're all regular Freeza soldiers and they're all together, of course Sorbet recognizes them (he even sends them there).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 11, 2015, 06:50:49 pm
movie stuff is finally all over.


NEW STUFF TO BEGIN NOW!
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
holy shitballs

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 11, 2015, 07:00:50 pm
More likely a movie based on how Mr Satan saved the world.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on October 11, 2015, 08:06:50 pm
Would like to see that as a "What if" Story in the next Dragonball Game, maybe as a dream sequence like the Cellin Scenario in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai. xD
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on October 12, 2015, 06:14:37 pm
I would like to see a Story about how Androide 17 lived after the Cell Games. We see him giving Goku his energy for the Spirit Bom against Kid Buu. The Story could take place between the end of The Cell Games and Goku's fight with Kid Buu. That would be very Great. 
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on October 12, 2015, 06:21:24 pm
Would like to see that as a "What if" Story in the next Dragonball Game, maybe as a dream sequence like the Cellin Scenario in Dragon Ball Z: Budokai. xD

How was Xenoverse not a gigantic "what if" story?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 12, 2015, 06:36:39 pm
That's not a what if, that's just a sequel.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ZombieBrock on October 12, 2015, 10:09:29 pm
huh, looks like i need to start watching again
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on October 17, 2015, 11:17:46 pm
Big News[MANGÁ SPOILERS]:

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 17, 2015, 11:26:07 pm
What wizz is saying is that each universe has a counterpart.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on October 17, 2015, 11:30:49 pm
Yeah, exactly.

Uni. 1 counterpart is univ. 12, and going on.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on October 17, 2015, 11:56:22 pm
That could open some interesting possibilities for storytelling.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 19, 2015, 05:11:34 pm
I'm still wondering itf the anime will be like this or if it will be a different beast. still liking the aniem best, the manga is way too rush.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on October 19, 2015, 07:01:57 pm
Episode 15 (October 17, 2015)

勇者サタンよ奇跡を起こせ!宇宙からの挑戦状!!
Yūsha Satan yo Kiseki o Okose! Uchū Kara no Chōsenjō!!
Heroic Satan, Cause a Miracle! A Challenge From Outer Space!!

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My thoughts:

Meh episode... dislike the art/animation. It was completely flat and clearly done on a budget.... and just as I expected, Chi-Chi was used for cheap laughs but it bugs me here particularly since it's not even consistent with her character in the anime during their better days (hell in the episode "He's Always Late", she said herself she can't be Goku-sa's wife if she got angry over every little thing). It's sucks that they're now making a lame joke into a plot point.... but at least they remember she's supposed to be extremely strong by effortlessly carrying a huge load (though Piccolo's is considerably bigger).

Also, I hope those lion-people never return. They're not funny outside maybe the big one being scared of Bee but that's only cuz it was unexpected... Mr. Satan salvages this episode aside from the humans buying into him being a god.

The next episode would surely be better... *crosses-fingers*

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on October 19, 2015, 07:05:48 pm
Episode 15 (October 17, 2005)

2005? ;P

What are you, the typo police?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 19, 2015, 07:16:26 pm
The common sense police would surely tell you to not make big fucking titles with centered text for absolutely nothing. This is a forum, not a blog, it's just obnoxious. And when you do that, do expect people to nitpick and mock you for the smallest thing like small typos, because you deserve it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sookoll on October 19, 2015, 07:28:20 pm
I'm on a laptop with a resolution of 1024x600 and it wasn't too big even for me.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on October 19, 2015, 08:02:24 pm
I gotta disagree with D. I liked episode 15, it was a character-interaction comic relief one. It was written a bit of a mess, being Satan-centered and so lots of plot convenience for his sake, but Goku getting punched by Satan was probably one of the funnier things I've seen in the series! Also Piccolo being Chi-chis bitch was great. Gohan's predictable cooking skills was great. Satan's imagination was entertaining. And Bee scaring the strongest Snak warrior was good.

I've personally not been a fan of Satan's lying or cowardice but that is standard fair for his character. This episode is the sort of comical madness Dragon Ball and Toriyama's other works had that Z/Kai mostly lost. I'm glad this series is bringing it back to where it started in certain ways. There hasn't been much sense of adventure/mystery but the world is already established I guess. :(


If you are looking for plot advancement though, this one didn't advance the story outside of Goku needs to work again and Satan is now regarded as a hero of the universe instead of just Earth. So it's pretty much a skip-able episode, though I wouldn't recommend skipping it. It's pretty funny if like that Toriyama style goofy shit.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 19, 2015, 08:23:38 pm
if it's about nitpicking, it's weird that satan was strong enough to run away from that guy, yet unabel to fight against him; while that's normal irl, in dragon ball rules it's werd that them being so close in strength satan did not fight back, I mean, their level are first budokai tier.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 19, 2015, 08:26:42 pm
I'm on a laptop with a resolution of 1024x600 and it wasn't too big even for me.
I didn't say it was too big to fit the screen. I'm talking about all caps and bold.
Attention grabbing will get you some attention all right, but not the attention you want.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on October 20, 2015, 04:26:38 pm
I'm on a laptop with a resolution of 1024x600 and it wasn't too big even for me.
I didn't say it was too big to fit the screen. I'm talking about all caps and bold.
Attention grabbing will get you some attention all right, but not the attention you want.

Who said I wanted attention... I'm just a bit of a perfectionist.

Anyways, did anyone feel sorry for Goku at the end of the latest episode? I mean, he skipped out on dinner and knowing Goku that's a pretty big deal. The worst part is that it's over something that's not even his fault. Mr. Satan dragged him into it.

The fuck is wrong with TOEI and their twisted humor? No one should be so afraid of a family member that they hide outside having to miss dinner. :mcry:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 20, 2015, 05:56:58 pm
toei is so insensitive, my dad died because he skipped dinner  :jackie:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 20, 2015, 07:13:09 pm
How many dinners did he skip ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 20, 2015, 08:18:06 pm
all of them since
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on October 20, 2015, 08:30:01 pm
Mr. Satan imagining himself as a SSJ was hilarious. Goku skipping dinner is indeed a big deal but, Goku skipping a fight even if he was forced by Mr. Satan is a bigger deal. They should turn Chi Chi into a more relaxed Character. She becomes more angrier in every Saga.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 20, 2015, 08:50:28 pm
In other news they should make fillers that aren't stupid, and the Earth is still a sphere.
Good luck with telling Toei that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on October 20, 2015, 09:14:32 pm
Mr. Satan imagining himself as a SSJ was hilarious. Goku skipping dinner is indeed a big deal but, Goku skipping a fight even if he was forced by Mr. Satan is a bigger deal. They should turn Chi Chi into a more relaxed Character. She becomes more angrier in every Saga.

Menopause.. or maybe her demon half trying to come out.

But for real, that's a big problem with Toei. They tend to blow character traits or gags outta proportion. Just look what they did to Mr. Boo. :(

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toei is so insensitive, my dad died because he skipped dinner  :jackie:

Danm...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 21, 2015, 06:41:54 pm
Uh, so the manga is skipping the Freeza movie altogether. That explains why it already introduced Champa then, while the anime will definitely fill us up with fillers and then the Freeza movie remake, before Champa pops up and finally pays Beerus a beating visit.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on October 22, 2015, 05:52:15 pm
Yeah I guess Champa is saved for last to keep people watching The Series.

Also, this might be interesting as the name SSGSS is changed to Super Saiyan Blue now.
http://kotaku.com/dragon-balls-most-ridiculous-super-saiyan-form-gets-a-n-1737985192?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 22, 2015, 06:57:33 pm
It's in the god damn manga, why do you post a link to Kotaku for that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on October 22, 2015, 07:21:27 pm
12 Important Dragon Ball Super Changes To The Current Canon. Number 7 Will Shock You!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on October 22, 2015, 07:37:19 pm
Yeah I guess Champa is saved for last to keep people watching The Series.

Also, this might be interesting as the name SSGSS is changed to Super Saiyan Blue now.
http://kotaku.com/dragon-balls-most-ridiculous-super-saiyan-form-gets-a-n-1737985192?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

Personally I think it would've been easier if they would've just named the 1st Super Saiyan God form "Saiyan God" because the 1st form is kinda like a normal younger looking Goku that looks like he is in a way more powerful version of Kaiyoken (I say this because of the red flame like aura that surrounds him and because of the red hair and his hair stays normal and it doesn't rise up and look spikey like a regular Super Saiyan does). Then when he actually goes Super Saiyan while in God form, then they could've just called it "Super Saiyan God". It would've made things far more simple with the names, especially if they plan on making them even stronger. (Hence like if they go further beyond while in that form and possibly go Super Saiyan 2 or 3 while in God form, then they simple could call it "Super Saiyan God 2 or 3 or SSG 2 or SSG 3"

To me that would've made way more sense than labeling it Super Saiyan Blue, unless he plans on giving them different colors if they get even stronger than Blue...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 22, 2015, 08:10:33 pm
We all know the next level is Green. It's Broly.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: mkfreak89 on October 22, 2015, 11:45:26 pm
i would like to see piccolo fighting again, but i know that this isnt going to happen,sad.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on October 23, 2015, 12:07:16 am
Doesn't Piccolo do some fighting in the upcoming R.O.F arc?
He did in the movie
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 23, 2015, 12:21:41 am
We all know the next level is Green. It's Broly.
Broly clearly says hes Akuma, so hes super sayan devil, six sayans feared him enough that he turned into the devil
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 23, 2015, 12:29:12 am
Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Future Trunks, Paragus, aaaaaaand nope, close but no cigar. Nice one though.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on October 26, 2015, 11:14:54 am
About the 15th episode, it seems Akira forgot about DragonBall (Kid Goku's story), I mean, there was a dog mayor (or mayor dog?) (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/6/62/King_Furry02.png/revision/latest?cb=20100217203351), there were Red Ribbon soldiers who were dogs (http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/7/74/WhiteScouts15.png/revision/latest?cb=20110826162717), the same Shu (Pilaf's gang) (http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/4/4a/ShuS3.png/revision/latest?cb=20130626233957) shown in the Battle of Gods episodes... so those Snak aliens didn't do their research carefully.

But apart from that it was a nice episode, also nice touch when they set the arena and the golden statue was on the floor. ;D
For a moment I thought Mr Satan was going to lose, but he "won". That moment was funny.

We all know the next level is Green. It's Broly.
Red, Green and Blue. RGB. And there we have it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 26, 2015, 12:36:44 pm
Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Future Trunks, Paragus, aaaaaaand nope, close but no cigar. Nice one though.
The six fearful sayans were the soldiers ordered to kill him as a baby! This is my headcanon now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 26, 2015, 01:33:58 pm
Actually it's 5 pouring their power into the sixth so with Goku, Future Trunks and Paragus, it fits, you were right. Truth revealed, he's the Super Saiyan Devil. There's black, red green blue yellow (RGBY), the last one missing for the last form is white.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 27, 2015, 03:43:58 am
(https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/12096587_881430565286941_1824726870074408897_n.jpg?oh=5a43a25f565d71ee375eefbb90e4fea2&oe=568E9A40)
this puzzle titled " The Warriors that will protect the Earth" comes out in December has led to speculation that these characters will become the new "God" warriors.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 27, 2015, 09:49:52 am
speculation that these characters will become the new "God" warriors.
Why ? That's just the Freeza movie arc, we know how it goes.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 28, 2015, 06:29:42 pm
trunks and goten werent even in the freeza arc.

(http://www.pixcelation.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Dragon-Ball-Z-Resurrection-F-%E2%80%93-North-American-Theatrical-Trailer.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on October 28, 2015, 06:40:49 pm
I just don't like how they made most of the other Z fighters kinda useless or rather don't fight as much anymore. Its mainly focusing on Goku and Vegeta. It would be nice to see a way for Gohan, Piccolo, Tien, Yamcha, or even Krillin to increase their strength to be something more than where it is now. I know everyone  can't be strong like Goku and Vegeta but, Piccolo hasn't gotten a boost in strength/speed since becoming a Super Namek.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 28, 2015, 07:52:11 pm
Watch the Freeza movie (or wait for the anime version)
trunks and goten werent even in the freeza arc.
I know (I'm still hoping it's because they realized they should be growing up a bit by now, Trunks should be as he was when he killed Freeza at 13 at that point), but it's a promo art for an upcoming arc, I don't see anything strange or foreshadowing of anything in it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 28, 2015, 08:02:10 pm
goku kinda jumped in height very suddenly when he was a kid, maybe the same will happen? Gohan had more heights tho.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 28, 2015, 08:23:40 pm
We've had this conversation before, and there was a three years gap when he grew up while training at Kami's place. Plus Future Trunks when he killed Freeza was 13, which is younger than what he should be during the Freeza movie (8 in the Buu saga, 10 years later he's 18, Pan is 4, so during the Freeza movie, he should be at least 14, which is older than Future Trunks was the first time)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on October 28, 2015, 08:53:58 pm
Watch the Freeza movie (or wait for the anime version)

I did and I loved the fact they let them have their shine and get back into action. My only thing is that I wish they had more of that, like they did in the first 2 sagas of DBZ. But yeah, I guess we'll have to keep watching to see what they do in next in the anime


goku kinda jumped in height very suddenly when he was a kid, maybe the same will happen? Gohan had more heights tho.

Yea your right. Things have yet to be revealed so you never know what might happen.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on October 29, 2015, 03:04:14 am
Is it a stretch to assume the staff for Super is fileld with Vegeta x Bulma fans and Goku x Chi-Chi haters...?

I mean, the show is filled with moments for Vegeta x Bulma ... it's like the show was practically made for them. Goku x Chi-Chi however does not get that kind of love from Toei at all (hell Gohan x Videl and Krillin x 18 get more love) which is ironic since the original anime was filled with moments for them even though they went over-the-top with Chi-Chi's character as well. Outside maybe that one scene in episode 14 where Goku never died against Beerus, we never get even a slight sense that Goku values Chi-Chi as anything but an obligation... in fact the latest episode hints that he resents the way that she is and the episode before it also hints she shares that notion for Goku... all with no compromise and the ending for that episode was more heartbreaking than funny  :'( . Even the opening has her yelling at and chasing after Goku and Goten when they pulled out that long turnip like it's their fault.

Though this could be the fault of a particular writer (Yoshifumi Fukushima) seems to get all the Goku x Chi-Chi centric episodes and unfortunately, he's handling the next episode as well.

What could be the cause of all this? Is it cuz that's how people remember Goku x Chi-Chi's relationship (and Chi-Chi's character) best so Toei tries to plays into that? Did Goku x Chi-Chi suddenly fall rapidly behind in popularity to the other couples in Japan with Vegeta x Bulma in the lead? Or is there some joke behind it that Japanese people get but is flying over my head? Or they just suck at writing in general?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 29, 2015, 05:02:50 am
goku and chichi was a horrible relationship with no love since the start; rememebr that they got married becasue goku did not even fucking know what marriage was and since he was hot and strong, chichi wanted to marry him regardless.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on November 12, 2015, 05:31:33 pm
Well, since this is pretty much THE Dragon Ball thread at this point, might as well:

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on November 12, 2015, 05:39:55 pm
Saw that yesterday because some dipshit put it on p2p sites marked as "Dbz movie 16" with the other actual movies (I Youtubed it to see, though). I think it's fucking terrible.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on November 12, 2015, 05:47:38 pm
I liked the Trunks VS Cell fight (Finally some action after so much dialogue) but the part after that with Vegeta's cassette ruined the entire movie for me.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thagr8test on November 14, 2015, 03:17:51 am
dont want to shit on the effort that went into making this but in general a lot of things just didn't appeal to me I'm cool with some of the changes but I feel the narration and the guy playing trunks just was out of place should went with actual dialogue and a younger actor also the super saiyan effects were a poor choice as well
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on November 15, 2015, 08:02:08 pm
How come Tagoma and co were able to use the Dragon Balls if it's been 6 months since the BOF arc ended?
And why were they offered  3 wishes instead of the 2 that the movie offered.

I did like the changes to the OP though
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on November 15, 2015, 09:05:22 pm
The Dragon Balls as recreated by Dende have 3 wishes (2 if you revive a massive number of people, not the case here), and they didn't use all those wishes in Battle of Gods, so the Dragon Balls could be reactivated without waiting a year.
But if the Freeza revival is using the wishes not used in the Battle of Gods arc, then yeah, it should probably be two and not three...
Just watching the latest episode now, and, hah, they changed the opening to show Super Saiyan Blue instead of Super Saiyan God.
Personally, I'm more concerned by Freeza's regeneration having him come out of the pod with his armor.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Boryema on November 16, 2015, 12:37:53 am
The Dragon Balls as recreated by Dende have 3 wishes (2 if you revive a massive number of people, not the case here), and they didn't use all those wishes in Battle of Gods, so the Dragon Balls could be reactivated without waiting a year.
But if the Freeza revival is using the wishes not used in the Battle of Gods arc, then yeah, it should probably be two and not three...
Just watching the latest episode now, and, hah, they changed the opening to show Super Saiyan Blue instead of Super Saiyan God.
Personally, I'm more concerned by Freeza's regeneration having him come out of the pod with his armor.

yeah the armor part still makes no sense
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Negi Springfield on December 03, 2015, 08:49:49 pm
So a guy i'm subbed to showed a slide-show comparison between the broadcast version of episode 5 vs the DVD to show how some of the animation derps were patched up and I figured it was worth sharing
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ~Hale "R@CE" Caesar~ on December 07, 2015, 04:49:49 am
Man.... Gohan and Piccolo are getting their butts handed to them. Its crazy how Gohan can barely stay in Super Saiyan form now and this latest episode has me like WOW....  But you never know, if these other "people" can get a power boost some how, I guess it's possible that Gohan will finally awaken again or something....
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 07, 2015, 05:06:35 am
hopefully they will get c18 to fight , since now it seems she is the strongest one of the bunch.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on December 08, 2015, 01:05:55 am
Gohan still has that power. He just didn't train and it is harder for him to draw it out now. Ginyu's body change was funny but, it got me thinking. If that frog Ginyu could just change bodies with just writing the word, this means he could do it earlier. The boost given to Frieza doesn't feel good. It makes the word training sound weak if you compare it with Goku's training. What Goku achieved in years, Frieza achieved it in four months. That makes it out of place. Even so, it is a great Manga and Anime.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 08, 2015, 01:19:37 am
ginyu ahd to get the other person to say the word change, writing was not enough.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Neocide on December 08, 2015, 01:42:17 am
It's not weird that freeza's power changed so drastically to catch up, seeing as how he was extremely strong from the get go. His boost wouldn't be the same as goku. I loved ginyu coming back. I hate how everyone is so damn weak. I doubt 18 fights. Goku and vegeta are showing up next ep.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on December 08, 2015, 04:39:39 am
What Goku achieved in years, Frieza achieved it in four months.
that's the whole point. that frieza is supposed to be this over-the-top adversary who achieved this ridiculous power without any effor while everyone else has to level up like crazy to catch up. so, naturaly is this really atrong adversary would take the time to train like the hero does and level up then he would gain an insane level up. but of course since frieza is so lazy and full of himself and not used to training he just went ready to battle right after leveling up, if he ahd trainedharder the heroes wouldn't have stood a chance!

... or at least that's the idea. if that had been the case the heroes would have won by some other bullshit. like for example instead of going super ultra saiyan iv turbo: the new hair collor (or whatever the hell is called) they would have started the fight in the previous level and transformed mid-fight.

this is further proof that DBZ power levels (or power levels in general) are bullshit and can chance arbitrary based on what the author needs to add tension to the plot. it's just much more over the top in DBZ becasue the power levels are on planet destroying with a single beam level

which also brings me to this:
(http://i.imgur.com/oFf3ltq.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on December 08, 2015, 05:28:54 am
I love that Ginyu came back, I was happy as soon as I saw him when Freeza first revived ad was hoping they'd do something with his froginess. Always good to see Roshi in on the action too.

Poor Piccolo though. I guess he let off on his training too.. :( Not a fan of how much Piccolo seems to have dropped in strength or his actual strength just forgotten, but I guess they will never make him any where near a Saiyan again. It's sucks because he's such a good character. Gohan's strength drop makes sense like in the start of the Majin Buu saga, its a bit sad but it's cool to see people don't just remain super badass if they slack for years and years.
 
I don't like the pacing of the Freeza stuff so far either, things are happening too fast in some spots, characters get introduced, proven tough, and fall in a minute of viewing time (Red guy, and effectively Tagoma despite my Ginyu fetish). Happens as well with Freezas exposition of training, he finishes talking about his upcoming training and you're led to assume X months go by as soon as the next scene starts, it doesn't give any indication that time passed by.

I am happy to see the 3D-CG crap doesn't seem to be making an appearance too! Was not a fan of it in Fukkatsu, it looked completely out of place.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 08, 2015, 05:37:04 am
which also brings me to this:

mushoku tensei also did power levels, it had 7 (elementary, intermediate, advanced, saint, king, emperor , god), but it was made in a way that not only did the levels made sense, but in a proper situation, multiple persons of a level could take on/defeat someone 2-3 levels higher (a 4 persons mixed group of  intermediate and advanced defeated a saint, same group against an emperor made him retreat, two kings can defeat a god, an even stronger god is still a fair fight againt a saint healer, king tank and two emperor attackers ).

too bad that, besides fusion, dragon ball does not really give any advantages to 2+ vs 1, even if whiz said otherwise.

[EDIT]
or funnily enoguh, after I typed that I watched a ranma recap episode and it reminded em that what that show did was power down ranma ocasionally, so the power levels would not go crazy. very noticeable on the hiryu shotenha arc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 08, 2015, 11:30:19 am
Gohan mentions Ginyu in Tagoma's body is about as strong as Gohan at his max, that means over Super Perfect Cell level, around Ultimate Gohan, who is around SSJ3 Goku. Piccolo's strength didn't drop, it just didn't increase like crazy. He's still around Androids/early Cell level (depends on his last training before Perfect Cell tournament), below Dabura.

What I'm disappointed about is that Tagoma's and Sorbet's friendship in the movie was kinda nice (it was sad to watch Tagoma get killed by Freeza), and that's gone because "I saw Hell".
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 08, 2015, 11:43:01 am
I feel like everyone was pretty much normalized in an attempt to bring the powerleveling down.

Red dude was said to be Zarbon level and Gohan still treated him like a challenge
Gohan doesnt seem to be going ssj2 , so I guess Tagoma would be around second phase cell level

The kids getting the hell out of dodge was fine too, it shows and implies that power leveling is just not really everything anymore. Instead specific moves seem to be more or less dangerous no matter the level ( Freeza death beams for instance)

I really hope they dont resort to power levels bull again, it was always the big massive flaw with dragonball, and it rapidly made the characters useless.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 16, 2015, 02:10:45 am
Promo pic surfaced with the upcoming God's tournament cast.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2015, 02:16:00 am
The kids getting the hell out of dodge was fine too, it shows and implies that power leveling is just not really everything anymore.
The big issue I have with that is that the fusion ended right at the beginning. It's supposed to last half an hour, so what, did they waste 28 minutes as Gotenks before joining the fight ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 16, 2015, 02:27:29 am
I was expecting gohan to spend 30 minuts powering up until goku actually maanged to come back, funny thing I was not that wrong.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 16, 2015, 02:28:27 am
Their time limit reduced everytime they expended way too much energy ( like going ssj3) but yeah it doesnt make much sense. I guess its implied he took the time they first detect till they get there fused and heading towards the threat. Which was most of a single episode.


Isnt that second person on the bottom of the pic a female sayajin?! D:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on December 16, 2015, 02:31:33 am
More importantly, is that god level Winnie the Pooh with them?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 16, 2015, 02:35:15 am
Full body shot now.

(http://i.imgur.com/HDODf22.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thojoewhit on December 16, 2015, 02:43:25 am
Full body shot now.

(http://i.imgur.com/HDODf22.jpg)

Looks cool.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 16, 2015, 03:01:15 am
lol tobal.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on December 16, 2015, 04:49:41 am
When are Chrono and his buddies showing up?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 18, 2015, 08:02:06 pm
some new info

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-18/dragon-ball-super-god-of-destruction-champa-arc-begins-january-24/.96670

I am glad this is still being written by toriyama
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on December 18, 2015, 08:23:01 pm
When are Chrono and his buddies showing up?
I have arrived!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 19, 2015, 08:42:21 pm
Names for the team have been released.

Hit = purple guy
Cabe = little saiyan
Frost = frieza lookalike
Botamo = the bear
Magetta = the robot
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 19, 2015, 09:39:18 pm
Frost = frieza lookalike
Well yeah, that's the one from Dragon Ball Heroes / Ultimate Mission thing.
edit - no wait, that was... Froze ? And he was a little different. Well, still the same idea.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 19, 2015, 10:26:50 pm
Froze was pretty fucking cool

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b3R6uk7j92g/maxresdefault.jpg)


I could go for a heroic Frieza clan.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on December 20, 2015, 03:20:23 pm
Champa says that they need their own saiyans in The Manga. I guess he just found one. If you look at the cover you see, Goku in front. Next Vegeta, Piccolo, Buu and that new guy. Champa's team has the purple guy hit in front, Next is little Saiyan Cabe, Frost, Botamo, Magetta. Could this be the ordering from strong to weak?

Goku - Hit
Vegeta - Cabe
Piccolo - Frost
Buu - Batoma
new guy - Magetta

Also, Magetta reminds Me of Gato from Chrono Trigger.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: drewski90 on December 20, 2015, 04:10:21 pm
i got some news that next year dragon ball super will be dubbed in english and it's not funimation?!

http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/news/First-Dragon-Ball-Super-Dub-Not-FUNimation/

any thoughts about this?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Segatron on December 20, 2015, 04:58:56 pm
Oh No Funimation was life behind the dubs of DB for a long time please dont change that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: yaminogun on December 20, 2015, 05:12:12 pm
ARAK, RAKI, OUZO, SAMBUCA & PASTIS
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on December 20, 2015, 05:13:55 pm
ARAK, RAKI, OUZO, SAMBUCA & PASTIS
What?!?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 21, 2015, 05:51:23 am
based vegeta for stopping teh tag-game of let's see how strong are you and saving like 5 episodes of that shit.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on December 27, 2015, 01:12:08 pm
“Dragon Ball Super” Champa Arc Begins January 2016.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2015/12/24/dragon-ball-super-champa-arc-begins-january-2016/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: DatKofGuy on December 27, 2015, 05:17:26 pm
Urgh, manga is introducing Super Dragon Balls... is Toriyama rehashing his rehashes now on a multiverse level?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 27, 2015, 05:23:52 pm
Have you not kept up with anything about this entire freaking series or something, why the hell do you think it's called Dragon Ball Super
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: DatKofGuy on December 27, 2015, 05:33:04 pm
Coz I thought it was just another title, like Kai or Z... didnt think they would refer to actual planet-sized dragon balls.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 27, 2015, 05:36:27 pm
Well, we didn't know they were planet-sized, but the whole "new set of Dragon Balls dispersed through the universe" + "multiple universes" was the very first thing we even heard about the whole series (the multiple universes bit was even all the way from the Battle of Gods movie). (and yes, the "super" in the title was always referring to "super dragon ball")
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on December 27, 2015, 10:46:49 pm
I'm eager to see the design of the "Super Shenron" that will appear at some point in the series, I hope it is something different like Porunga was in Z and not just a bigger version of the Classic Shenron, like the Red one in GT.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on December 28, 2015, 02:11:55 am
Uh Oh...
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on December 28, 2015, 02:18:33 am
... It's only DB Heroes merchandising.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 28, 2015, 02:26:50 am
here's hoping that's merchandising for something that is not dragon ball super but just happens to also have super characters, otherwise, yeah, ssj3 bardock confirmed for super, because why would they bother to make db super merchandising for something that does not exist in db super.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 28, 2015, 02:56:46 am
Quick Google search say dragon ball udm burst figures are simply gashapon keychains that aren't specifically tied to super. This is wave 16, and previous waves have included stuff like ssj4 gogeta, ssj4 Goku, bejito, broly, uub, coola, even ssj3 gogeta. So, not Super. This wave just includes Super stuff. Apparently the next wave even has masked Bardock from Xenoverse, which isn't the same version as this ssj3 Bardock, so obviously they don't care about mixing incompatible sources.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on December 28, 2015, 11:52:26 am
DKDC masked Bardock was in Dragon Ball online and heroes, but not in Xenoverse.  ;D
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 28, 2015, 12:01:20 pm
Oh, right. the site I saw said masked from Xeno, I didn't realize it was a mistake. Never mind then.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on December 30, 2015, 07:22:47 pm
I want to see the new Shenron aswell. I wonder if Piccolo knows any of this as Kami is fused with him or the Elder Namekian on New Namek.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 17, 2016, 03:13:47 am
Cool, Champa is coming up next week in the anime. And Gohan finally wants to start training again with Piccolo after seeing the Earth get destroyed. Maybe he'll be useful again.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Kenshin X on January 17, 2016, 04:20:20 am
Cool, Champa is coming up next week in the anime. And Gohan finally wants to start training again with Piccolo after seeing the Earth get destroyed. Maybe he'll be useful again.

Gohan isn't gonna train. he isn't even gonna be WATCHING the tournament let alone fighting. he went to a conference
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 17, 2016, 09:36:36 am
I'm talking about the anime, not the tournament.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on January 17, 2016, 11:14:10 pm
Are you guys watching the last episodes? The animation are EVEN TERRIBLE, especially in episode 25. :(
I mean, thinking that they'll fix that shitty animation now but, UGH! >:(
Not only the animation, the whole episodes stories are... slow.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 18, 2016, 05:31:40 pm
dude, it's dragon ball, what did you expect?

well, at least you are not like those guys who are comparing intbetween frames to promotional art.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on January 18, 2016, 05:50:59 pm
Maybe I missed it but I didn't notice anything particularly bad in the last few episodes, at least nothing close to that one that got a lot of hate ep5 or 6 or whichever it was. But that particular episode was the only time I really noticed an animation quality drop in an anime except for like 1 or 2 Welcome to the NHK episodes or switches to some weird 3D computer rendered scene which sometimes looks terrible.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 18, 2016, 06:07:04 pm
yah, episode 5 was bad, the worse part of it is that it was the first battle fo the series, so half assing t that bad was unexcusable.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 18, 2016, 06:09:30 pm
every single original episode seem to have top notch quality. only the retells have somewhat lower one.

the only actually bad scene i noticed on this last episode was beerus seen from the front looking iffy, other than that, nothing really that bad.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 18, 2016, 06:41:31 pm
every single original episode seem to have top notch quality. only the retells have somewhat lower one.
Boat party and Pilaf gang adventures. Super thick lineart because it's zooming in super close to a drawing supposed to be wide angle.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on January 18, 2016, 07:00:06 pm
Are you guys watching the last episodes? The animation are EVEN TERRIBLE, especially in episode 25. :(
I mean, thinking that they'll fix that shitty animation now but, UGH! >:(
Not only the animation, the whole episodes stories are... slow.

The pacing should pick up now that we're firmly into original stories.
As for the animations, uhhh I'm sure the DVDs will be better?
I honestly don't know what to say to that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 18, 2016, 07:02:46 pm
every single original episode seem to have top notch quality. only the retells have somewhat lower one.
Boat party and Pilaf gang adventures. Super thick lineart because it's zooming in super close to a drawing supposed to be wide angle.

those were still firmly part of the retells werent them?

It almost feels like they were doing the show so far so that people wouldnt be forced to watch the movies to get situated in the show, and so they sped through everything that was some sort of a retell.

things like pan birth episodes, the alien cats, vegeta training with beerus, vegeta and whis, stuff that was solidly not in the movies seems to be always better done to me so far.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 18, 2016, 07:05:24 pm
The stuff on the boat, yeah, but it wasted a bullshit long ass time on the Pilaf gang doing fuck all (and complaining they were hungry) before getting to the boat. It got way better for the first Gods fight and everything after that (so the gods fight, a retell, was still a massive improvement, even from the movie that used random 3D Budokai stuff).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 18, 2016, 07:49:30 pm
and they did not even have mai befriend trunks.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 19, 2016, 01:10:57 am
They also cut out beerus and whis talking about beerus being the one that instructed freeza to murder vegeta father and destroy the planet.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on January 21, 2016, 08:33:10 pm
EVEN AKIRA TORIYAMA DISLIKES THE ANIMATION QUALITY OF DB SUPER (http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/akira-toriyama-disappointed-by-dragon-ball-super-animation/)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on January 21, 2016, 10:23:14 pm
dude, did you have to make the font that big?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: walt on January 21, 2016, 10:44:02 pm
lol 

the horrible quality is so undeniable even Toriyama himself couldn't keep his opinion to himself :P
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on January 22, 2016, 05:12:01 am
dude, did you have to make the font that big?

only the size level 26, I think it's doens't looks that big on my end D:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on January 22, 2016, 05:16:40 am
its really obnoxious but eh whatever.

lol even akira toriyama doesn't like the animation? wow thats sad
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on January 26, 2016, 02:45:32 pm
Really sad to know that Toriyama is disappointed with the shitty animation.
Here's a resume of what he said.
Akira Toriyama said:
“Dragon Ball once became a thing of the past to me, but after that, I got angry about the live-action movie (DB Evolution), re-wrote an entire movie script, and now I’m complaining about the quality of the new TV anime. It seems Dragon Ball has grown on me so much I can’t leave it alone“.

In other words, he's back to DB because of the big shit DB Evolution was. And maybe he'll continue making all-new DB stuff.
Well, so that's a good thing coming from DB Evolution, it makes Toriyama back to DB lol. :P (even though many people keep thinking is because DB GT...)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on January 26, 2016, 02:52:00 pm
db evolution isnt the sole reason, hes just stating that he cant let the series go.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 26, 2016, 03:04:03 pm
sama
Don't do that
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on January 26, 2016, 03:12:18 pm
sama
Don't do that


Fixed. Sorry.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on January 26, 2016, 03:31:13 pm
db evolution isnt the sole reason, hes just stating that he cant let the series go.
he wants to leave it, he wanted to leave ever since the cell saga but he was pressured by jump back then.
and now it seems like Toei pressuring him to keep the series alive.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 26, 2016, 03:33:26 pm
The interviews I read had him wanting to make the new show , not toei pressuring him?  If toei just wanted to make a new show without him they couldve bought the rights and continued from GT
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 26, 2016, 03:50:27 pm
Yeah, everything since battle of gods was stuff he wanted to do for a while and get away from numbers and power levels.
Not sure how well that's going, Toei is still trying to put numbers on golden freeza and we still don't know what he wants to do with the other universes beside the mirror one.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 26, 2016, 05:32:52 pm
he wants to leave it, he wanted to leave ever since the cell saga but he was pressured by jump back then.
and now it seems like Toei pressuring him to keep the series alive.

he wantd to leave back then, because being overworked and the only thign he had done for years and stuff. he took a nice break from it after the buu saga and felt like going back to it; I'd say it's kinda weird that eh complains about the quality of super since z was worse , but what I know, maybe he complained about zeta a lot back then and people just disregard that because of theri found memories of zeta. and yes, zeta is the one I talk about when I coplmani about people comparing zeta promotional art (not screen captures) to super's inbetween frames.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on January 26, 2016, 06:53:53 pm
Going off tangent a tiny bit, there were certainly lower quality episodes of DBZ that some people that have watched the show thoroughly haven't noticed even after multiple watch throughs, though those usually were filler episodes. The quality drops in Super are entirely more noticeable. I'm just afraid that with the amount of episodes in the series that they won't even be fixed for the Bluray release.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 26, 2016, 07:29:58 pm
zeta hada lot of frame recycling and scene repeats; regarding that super has not even come close; the worse sin of super was having bad quality in teh first fight, that ws a horrible first impression so to speak.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 28, 2016, 02:06:00 am
"You're a Saiyan like us ? [...] wow, you all sound like great guys ! Totally different from here !" Yes Goku, that was a great way to tell your future adversary that you and your whole group are probably all massive assholes.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on January 30, 2016, 01:38:20 am
What if they made a Movie version of this new saga aswell? The God Of Destruction and Frieza's Ressurection Movies have better animation. Would this be solved if there was a Movie about this new Saga?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 30, 2016, 01:50:05 am
Pfft no. The Beerus fight on Earth is much better in the anime, and the Freeza movie isn't that good. Also, obviously they can't possibly make a tournament in a movie, a movie only has time for like 3 good fights.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on January 30, 2016, 01:56:04 am
Wasn't a tornament the setting of the Bojack movie?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 30, 2016, 02:13:14 am
Not one where every fight counted, most of them lasted like 2 minutes tops. This tournament has at least 5 to maybe 7 fights and they're likely to last some time, we're talking about the 10 strongest guys in two universes, not some comedy filler.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 30, 2016, 04:17:14 am
unless they completely "surprise" us and make this tournament a silly excuse to add a new villain that puts two universes in risk. (and it will give an answer to dragon fall0's last question, if my previous enemies were able to destroy a country, then the world, then a solar system, then the universe(majin boo) , what are you supossed to be able to destroy (answer would be two universes)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on January 30, 2016, 04:53:35 am
unless they completely "surprise" us and make this tournament a silly excuse to add a new villain that puts two universes in risk. (and it will give an answer to dragon fall0's last question, if my previous enemies were able to destroy a country, then the world, then a solar system, then the universe(majin boo) , what are you supossed to be able to destroy (answer would be two universes)


... Maybe Vados?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on January 30, 2016, 10:53:48 pm
I wonder how many of these new Characters are able to transform. I hope the development for this new saga won't be rushed as this is no movie remake but, totally new.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on January 31, 2016, 10:23:45 pm
Shenron count: 3/29

Remind me, how long did it take for the original Dragon Ball to show Shenron?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 31, 2016, 10:44:31 pm
You mean the original story that as based on the adventure itself of the search of the balls and not the actual wish part ?
(also didn't have people who could fly around the earth in a few seconds as they checked out the radar)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 31, 2016, 10:54:26 pm
The first wish of the original show was on episode 12.

It was panties.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on February 01, 2016, 11:29:35 pm
Oh yeah. I knew what it was for but not when it was (i read the mangas)

But that still doesn't excuse the 3 Shenron appearences in 29 episodes. I mean, fair enough he was guaranteed to appear in the BoG and RoF arcs but this recent appearance was completely pointless.

Meh. At least next episode has my boy Gohan. (Plz pick him for the tournament don't fuck this up Toriyama)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 01, 2016, 11:41:46 pm
The manga went with Piccolo and Majin Buu (who just got kicked out because he couldn't even write his name). The anime also hinted at Gohan resuming his training the previous week, so I'm rather curious what they're going to do with him. ... ... Filler time !
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 02, 2016, 01:03:13 am
The manga is merely promotional nowadays, just to keep people interests up. I wouldnt count it as canon, nor anything that is not there as filler =P

They are still very likely to pick buu and piccolo.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 02, 2016, 03:00:28 pm
Goku seems to be more silly in Dragonball Super. Also Vegeta seems to be the Piccolo in The Series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on February 03, 2016, 05:25:32 am
so he is strong but useless, rite?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 10, 2016, 12:00:16 am
finally a recap, at least it pprogressed the plot a bit, a full 2 minutes or so >.<
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 19, 2016, 07:09:01 pm
New manga chapter
lol all the Kaiohs from universe 6 and even Champa never saw the Super Saiyan form. What does that say about our expectations for the little guy, now... ? (too bad we didn't get to see his reaction on the SSJ form)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 22, 2016, 12:42:28 pm
I think im dropping the manga whole. The series has progressed enough that im having more fun being surprised by the show itself. And the manga was always just showing little tidbits of future episodes.

Cabe and the others look badass.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 22, 2016, 12:57:01 pm
Problem with the manga is that we have no idea when the chapters come out :-\
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 22, 2016, 01:07:21 pm
Im glad Kaioshin and Kibito are now separated again, it makes sense andbrings up a more varied  cast.

Love the design on the tournament referee, very buuish.

Frost is looking cool, that little animation at the beginning. is just badass

http://i.imgur.com/rY1EBGR.webm


made this webm but couldnt capture the last second with heat/hit shooting.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 22, 2016, 04:57:29 pm
I think im dropping the manga whole. The series has progressed enough that im having more fun being surprised by the show itself. And the manga was always just showing little tidbits of future episodes.

I read like 3 episodes of the manga adn it felt so "abridged" I droped it right away, the anime is doing it better.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on February 23, 2016, 01:00:56 am
im in love with the new character designs, they just feel so fresh~
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on February 23, 2016, 06:32:22 pm
everywhere i go they mention how DBS got better once they stopped adapting the movies and moved into the original plot so i decided to try it out (for real this time) so from which episode should i start?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 23, 2016, 06:44:55 pm
1>14 is Beerus, then a bit of the training with Beerus begins (i.e. original content), 19>27 is Freeza but it still has some of the training bits mixed in. Latest one is 32.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 23, 2016, 06:49:43 pm
attempt to watch the beginnings of both arcs, they are where the good meat is, the moment stuff starts happening that you already know, move over. Episode 15 16 and 17 are great for instance.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 29, 2016, 05:30:34 pm
So what are your predictions to what happened to Goku?

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 29, 2016, 07:22:00 pm
It's pretty obvious he kno-
Spoiler: Oh wait, we're doing spoiler tags (click to see content)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 29, 2016, 10:13:20 pm
The next Episode will be Frost vs Piccolo. Did you guys see in the clip that Piccolo splits into more then 3. I really wonder how strong he became. It is getting better each Episode. Also, those fighters do have some reasons to participate. I don't think all of them are fighting to get help from Champa. I think some will have bussiness with the Super Dragonballs In the Series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on February 29, 2016, 10:38:59 pm
-Literally just picked up Mega Winnie the Pooh and threw him. Lmao
-Frost is a super cool guy.Unless he's hiding his true Freiza self.
-Why is Goku chatting shit about Frost holding back when he himself is only Super Saiyan 1?

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Anyway, Piccolo's up next. And has apparently learnt Double Team.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 01, 2016, 04:05:16 am
I had some fun speculating that good freeza is also evil, since the people he helped seemed to be devils and he seemed to be fghting normal humans; guess that will be a revelation later.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 01, 2016, 11:27:04 am
I wonder if Frost has a brother wich is Cooler's counterpart. The idea that Frost helps demons is kinda decent. The demon he holds is smiling. Maybe these have a kind heart. Also, Frosts 3th form isn't exactly looking like Frieza's 3th form in The Series. Frost can stand straight while 3th form Frieza can't do so. It's still Great to see Frieza's counterpart fighting in it's 3th form in Dragonball Super.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 01, 2016, 07:54:52 pm
he seemed to be fghting normal humans
I checked again and they're definitely not human, pointed ears, jaw full of fangs and all. They're similar to the guys he's saving, so since the narrator is talking about wars, I would sooner imagine that he's stopping wars between people of a same race and stuff. Remember that universe 6 humans wiped themselves out in a war between themselves (as in, not only there are no more humans, but also that seems to be a recurrent problem over there).
in fact, he says wars happen a lot, yet for once we're seeing Freeza's race and Saiyans act as peace keepers, so basically everything really is flipped and we're seeing the few good guys among the lot of war-bent races.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on March 04, 2016, 06:44:45 am
i finally catched up with super! got some questions:

- did something happen during the BotG retelling? because now the dragon balls can grant 3 wishes but from the cell saga until RoF movie it was just 2
- i remember they explicitly said namekians only drank water but in super piccolo is clearly eating. is this another case of "toriyama forgot about it" or is it becasue he has to eat for 3 now? :P

i like vegeta in super way more than in Z. not only is he the butt of the jokes sometimes (which vegetafags seem to hate) and he is now able to have normal conversations with other characters. vegeta was the dullest becasue his entire character revolved around "but muh pride!!!" and surpassing karottop.

i also want frost to be a genuinely nice guy

also, i don't know if anyone else has read it but i just found out this spanish webcomic (don't worry it has multiple languages) called DB multiverse. basically is a fan made story that takes place 10 years after Z (and of course ignores GT exists) it revolves around some aline race developing multiverse traveling and setting up a multiverse tournament along the namekians from various universes (the prize is 3 wishes from polunga).

in here there are unlimited universes (i haven't read much but it seems to center aorund 20 and the DB cast is form U18). so far what i saw there's a universe where goku never hit his head and killed all the humans plus vegeta, nappa radditz and karottop discovered the secret of how to become SS and killed freeza (but IIRC raditz and nappa cannot turn SS), another where freeza doesn't exist and the saiyans are a primitive race of warriors, another where cell kill of the z warrirors, another were the freeza family killed everyone else and so on.... also, it seems U20 (i think) broly is broken as fuck and is the strongest of them all

http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/
there are 51 chapters and it's still on-going
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 04, 2016, 09:32:14 am
Multiverse is French (and then translated) and it's been going on for several years - though maybe not as long as dbz abridged. There was a topic here but it's long gone.

The Piccolo thing is probably just the anime being dumb.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 04, 2016, 06:38:07 pm
it can also be a case of he can eat but he does not need to eat.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on March 04, 2016, 06:43:43 pm
Daimao ate.

He also spat out eggs and was considered a corrupt namekian tho.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 04, 2016, 07:08:32 pm
But Daimao was a demon. Did you, like, never read Dragon Ball or something ? Don't be silly.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 04, 2016, 09:54:43 pm
Daimou was a demon but, the Piccolo we know after learned about himself being a Namekian after the arrival of The Saiyans. So this makes Daimou a Namekian too? I mean yes, he is a demon in Dragonball but, event changed with Z. What do you guys think about this?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on March 05, 2016, 01:27:55 am
i think byakko was simply joking and that joke went past over your head

now, how about the fact that shenlong can grant 3 wishes instead of 2
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on March 05, 2016, 01:44:55 am
"After Dende's remodeling, Shenron is able to grant three wishes. However, since Dende is not powerful enough, Shenron can only fulfil two of the three wishes if a large number of people are revived using one of the wishes. "

Dende isnt strong enough to perform mass ressurections, so hes limited to two wishes if one of the wishes is like that, but other than that its always 3 wishes. Dende brought with him the techniques from Namek. So his shenron can perform lower level wishes, but more at a time.


Old Shenron could perform high level wishes but always just one.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 05, 2016, 04:22:52 am
did not they also mention somethign about the amount of wishes reducing teh amountof time the balls sleep ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 05, 2016, 04:24:10 am
Yeah, if you don't use all the wishes, they're only inactive 6 months.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on March 05, 2016, 03:52:26 pm
Think of it as battery life. Dende can charge any 3 smaller wishes , reality bending wishes take the same energy as 2 smaller wishes and there are wishes that break it and hes not able to do at all.  Like in the original they couldnt wish for the dragon to destroy anyone stronger than Kami, preventing them from using the balls against Daimao
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 06, 2016, 05:03:01 pm
... Huh. Well, so much for a good Frieza. :(
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on March 06, 2016, 07:15:58 pm
I wonder if they plan to bring anyone back in, it was odd to have them so reduced from the getgo without buu to begin with
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on March 09, 2016, 10:27:55 pm
oh well, that would have been funny to have a nice guy freeza.

but what really bothered me about that last episode was they didn't let piccolo do anything!

heck, DBS is pretty much the goku and vegeta show and every other DB character is juts there for cameos. piccolo and ten shin han are my favorite characters and it's sad that they will never be relevant again. heck, even hyper DBZ gave us the same 3 fucking monkeys (2 of them twice!) before they can start working on something i'm not sick of already

there's still that saiyan guy from u6 who might do something interesting since he mentioned saiyans from u6 can't transform into SS
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 10, 2016, 01:01:04 am
Yeah that Picolo fight was fucking ridiculous lol
everybody told him he was gonna get his ass beaten even though Frost was severely weakened, he was directly told he literally had one job (weaken Frost for Vegeta) and he laments on that then he goes and takes forever to charge a one-hit-kill, which he can't even hit because Mr. Genius Strategist here wrapped his arm around the guy who knocked down Goku with a touch of the hand.
Hey, at least Vegeta is getting the spotlight, it's not Goku or Gohan anymore (Gohan who also completely failed everything in the Buu Saga anyway)
Piccolo and Ten Shin Han were the two guys with the most tactical styles, coming up with nifty new attacks and techniques, but they always get thrashed by lol powerlevel.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on March 10, 2016, 01:09:14 am
story beats arent making sense right now.
Piccolo took forever to charge to fool frost into lowering his guard ( he fully recharges his hit in five seconds once he wraps his arm around him ) . But he went and claimed twice that he shouldnt be underestimated, survived a hit that killed him when he faced freeza some episodes back ( literally got up and regenerated a hole in his chest) and then hesitated before literally forfeiting to Frost.

If it was any other show this would be setup for a payoff, but I have no idea whats going on. or what they are aiming at. Theres obviously too many characters for vegeta to go through the tournament alone.


DB Heroes also just introduced a new namekian form. Make of that what you will.


Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: major jon on March 10, 2016, 01:17:49 am
Dragon Ball wasn't that good,I think it should of stayed in the 90's/2000s were it belongs.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 10, 2016, 01:20:05 am

I guess they want to leave more guys to nipples.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 10, 2016, 01:29:50 am
New Namekian form ? *searching*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--_Dji_xoyo around the 3:55 mark ? It says every race gets a God class up, like Super Saiyan God. Cell gets a God form, Freeza's race is golden, the Kaioh race (oh, that's new) gets blond hair apparently, and so the Namekians get this... weird armor thing ? Eh, I really don't think we should take that into account, it's just some shit they came up with so that every race gets the same boost. Red Cell lol.

Dragon Ball wasn't that good,I think it should of stayed in the 90's/2000s were it belongs.
You mean 80s/90s. But thank you for your very valuable opinion !
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on March 10, 2016, 01:36:12 am
Red eyed Namekian was a form that Toryama had made for the old DBO game in cutscenes.
In DBO the equivalent of the super sayan was the giant form for the namekians.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p84nBxAwQOs
Tsumuri goes red eyed namekian at minute 3.


It never even got a legitimate name, it was just a "super" form of elite namekians. Now playable avatars can unlock it as Namekian "God" form for heroes.
I saw this episode live on tv, and the ad for heroes new GOD avatars was set right before the episode and right after.

( thats not really cell in the ad btw, its just a playable android avatar that happens to be red, his name is genome I think)

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 10, 2016, 01:39:11 am
Oh right, the armor is apparently just part of the Berserker class of the Namekian race.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on March 10, 2016, 01:50:41 am
It just doesnt make sense for the story beat to have no payoff. Usually things are setup for some kind of payoff.
The freeza hero twist was unexpected and I enjoyed being fooled but Piccolo fight had really no payoff and it feels odd.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: major jon on March 10, 2016, 01:55:37 am
New Namekian form ? *searching*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--_Dji_xoyo around the 3:55 mark ? It says every race gets a God class up, like Super Saiyan God. Cell gets a God form, Freeza's race is golden, the Kaioh race (oh, that's new) gets blond hair apparently, and so the Namekians get this... weird armor thing ? Eh, I really don't think we should take that into account, it's just some shit they came up with so that every race gets the same boost. Red Cell lol.

Dragon Ball wasn't that good,I think it should of stayed in the 90's/2000s were it belongs.
You mean 80s/90s. But thank you for your very valuable opinion !

Thanks for the sarcasm
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on March 10, 2016, 05:53:23 am
Theres obviously too many characters for vegeta to go through the tournament alone.
i read in a synopsis for the next episode or so that they add a new rule to the tournament that if you touch the protective barrier around the arena you get disqualified. so i'm guessing if vegeta fights the u6 saiyan since he cannot transform into ss (and i hope he doesn't transform during the fight or pull another kind of transformation) that he will trick vegeta into touching the barrier (maybe even end in a draw so the final fight will be between penis ehad and mamamanko)

also, PLOTTWIST: the un-named planet is the final super dragon ball

//edit: lel, planet mayonnai (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5fPHFUqcKs)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 13, 2016, 03:11:04 am
What if Transforming isn't discovered in U6 yet. So that's why The Saiyan doesn't know about it. Maybe he is going to discover it in the tournament. The latest Beerus and Frieza Movies are all about new transformations. Maybe the Super Saiyan in U6 has a different look. Why is he also a Saiyan if he doesnt have a Oozaru form? That form is the nature of a nomal Saiyan.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on March 13, 2016, 03:20:02 am
PLOT TWIST, he's already transformed, he's just not aware of that :dugoi:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on March 13, 2016, 04:44:13 pm
Why is he also a Saiyan if he doesnt have a Oozaru form? That form is the nature of a nomal Saiyan.

The U6 Saiyans don't have tails anymore for some reason, and without a tail they simply can't transform into a Oozaru, and since things seem happend to be different in that universe there was probably never a Legendary Super Saiyan in there universe too, so they just don't know that there species has any kind of transformation ability.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: MrChris on March 13, 2016, 05:11:51 pm
and they say that DRAGON Ball Gt is Trash.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 13, 2016, 08:18:12 pm
I see no raws yet, so no new episode this week ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 13, 2016, 08:31:53 pm
It won't be airing this week. Check this link out.

http://en.yibada.com/articles/108837/20160310/dragon-ball-super-episode-35-is-not-airing-on-mar-13-2016-episode-34-official-ratings-spoilers.htm
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on March 13, 2016, 08:38:34 pm
and they say that DRAGON Ball Gt is Trash.

It is trash. Directionless gaudy looking trash.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 14, 2016, 12:01:25 am
It won't be airing this week. Check this link out.

http://en.yibada.com/articles/108837/20160310/dragon-ball-super-episode-35-is-not-airing-on-mar-13-2016-episode-34-official-ratings-spoilers.htm

thanks
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 15, 2016, 02:56:23 am
Your welcome. I was hoping to read the Manga, Chapter 10 but, it isn't out yet.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on March 16, 2016, 06:10:52 am
well, this looks better and has more fluid animation than the battles in DBS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBjM6AV_L2Y)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 18, 2016, 05:53:16 pm
I have an offtopic question till there is some news. Do you guys think there will be a Dragonball Super only Game? I mean like Dragonball Z Games are mostly starting with the Saiyan Saga and end with the Kid Buu Saga. It was covering Dragonball Z. Is it going to be a case with Dragonball Super where we don't have The Sagas from Saiyan till Kid Buu but, just the Sagas from Super?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 20, 2016, 04:13:59 pm
Oh lol, even Bulma started not trusting Vegeta when he goes all "I'm gonna beat him myself".
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 22, 2016, 04:40:40 pm
Goku is in the fight again as Frost was disqualified. He think that he is going to fight Hit later.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 23, 2016, 01:56:39 pm
Damn, the manga is way better than the anime, makes more sense. The anime was just being too obvious just to drag it out.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on March 23, 2016, 05:00:40 pm
the sad part is that the fight with robot-guy has been the most interesting so far.

also, it seems mamamanko is going to be completely irrevelant. piccolo did fucking nothing (and was even told he wouldn't accomplish nothing by everyone), majin boo fell asleep before the battles even begun and will most likely do nothing and on top of that goku is back in the tournament.

this really is the goku and vegeta show and everyone else is just a bench warmer
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 23, 2016, 05:10:08 pm
Well, the bad guys are using more than just "lol I'm stronger / faster", there are tactics and tricks at play. Seeing Beerus' response about Mankoman, I'm pretty sure he's weak but has a crazy trick that would be instant win for him unless someone figures it out (but not before seeing it). Frost was to ease us up into it because we know he's much weaker, and Goku even had to use his head against Fat Teddy rather than just pound him, and it's clear no one is anywhere close to SSJG level but they all have a quite different approach. In a tournament with rules, they actually stand a chance. We'll have to wait to know how really efficient that is.

Until Vegeta just goes Final Flash on everyone - like next episode apparently, depending on how that works,  we'll know for sure.

I mean, remember when Cell could regenerate, but didn't use it as part of his tactic, and had Vegeta blast a Final Flash to show us raw planet-sized lasers wouldn't work, only to break out a solar system-buster with Gohan to get rid of him ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on March 23, 2016, 05:18:49 pm
The manga is so many times better. They should have just waited so that they had some material to use before making the anime.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 23, 2016, 05:29:53 pm
Pretty sure the material wouldn't have changed anything. It seems fairly clear to me that Toriyama already wrote a large part of the scenario and gave it to both the manga guy and Toei, they're just each going with their interpretation, and Toei simply has a habit to drag out everything.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on March 23, 2016, 08:59:26 pm
No I mean in terms of animation quality. It's been the same for all animated dragon ball. The filler scenes always look worse than the scenes that actually happened in the manga (I'd show examples, but lazy).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 25, 2016, 11:53:07 am
this really is the goku and vegeta show and everyone else is just a bench warmer

I had to think of The Super Mario Bros Show, Super Show from the 90's. This is the Dragonball version of it, also being Super. Just kidding.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 27, 2016, 05:14:12 pm
They're still trying hard to juggle between rules, tricks, and power levels, with metal guy resisting a Galick Cannon and a Final Flash right until Vegeta calls him a piece of junk. ... It's not a very good balance and it's pretty ridiculous. Could've been more acceptable if it wasn't so damn slow, but hey, that's Toei.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 28, 2016, 12:12:29 am
This comment of mine wich I quoted about the U6 Saiyan is becoming real. He will become a SSJ in the tournament next week. 

What if Transforming isn't discovered in U6 yet. So that's why The Saiyan doesn't know about it. Maybe he is going to discover it in the tournament. The latest Beerus and Frieza Movies are all about new transformations. Maybe the Super Saiyan in U6 has a different look. Why is he also a Saiyan if he doesnt have a Oozaru form? That form is the nature of a nomal Saiyan.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 31, 2016, 03:39:47 am
wtf did champla even do while choosing people, their n1 is an assassin hired for a tournament with no assassination rules, lol.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on March 31, 2016, 04:52:14 am
he did nothing. he simply told vados to find him strong individuals who would win the tournament

vados knows of their background but brought them along becasue champa doesn't care as long as they win. i'm sure vados acts this way to teach champa the consecuences of his i-dont-care-how-you-do-it attitude (like with the barrier: "why didn't you made the barrier stronger?!!" "cuz u said it didnt care, lol"). plus she's a dick like whis and likes to mess with champa
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on April 04, 2016, 04:24:10 am
That new ending makes me wonder if the anime is going to be ended soon.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 04, 2016, 09:50:03 am
Uh ? It's just changing endings every 12 episodes, which is very common. This is simply the fourth cour, and the fourth ending. Obviously that's at least one more cour since it just started.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on April 04, 2016, 10:51:32 am
i feel like all of the fights in this arc have been terribly underwhelming, i didn't feel any excitement at all and that the fighters themsevles barely utilized any of their abilities :/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Que-Saber on April 04, 2016, 07:10:27 pm
i feel like all of the fights in this arc have been terribly underwhelming, i didn't feel any excitement at all and that the fighters themsevles barely utilized any of their abilities :/

Thats all down to the poor, lackluster animation, which I think most people have gotten over by now. aside from that and the utterly rushed ssj transformation of cabba, this episode may just have been the best fight/training sequence yet. Story, character development and everything,
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Neocide on April 04, 2016, 09:33:09 pm
^

I felt like that after reading the goku v frost fight in the manga, it's done so much better there. I loved this ep though.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on April 05, 2016, 06:27:23 am
i feel like all of the fights in this arc have been terribly underwhelming, i didn't feel any excitement at all and that the fighters themsevles barely utilized any of their abilities :/

Thats all down to the poor, lackluster animation, which I think most people have gotten over by now. aside from that and the utterly rushed ssj transformation of cabba, this episode may just have been the best fight/training sequence yet. Story, character development and everything,

compared to the original series, which still has a BUNCH of issues, its still lackluster and feels rushed. they could have atleast given cabba a bit more time to develop his pride for his home planet.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on April 05, 2016, 06:54:24 pm
but cabba is vegeta's son in that universe.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on April 05, 2016, 10:15:58 pm
Where does it say that
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 05, 2016, 10:31:57 pm
Nowhere, have a closer look at who said that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on April 05, 2016, 10:40:49 pm
vegeta bonded more with cabba in a single episode than with his son, moslty kid trunks because nobody likes that little shit
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on April 05, 2016, 10:53:22 pm
"-- Toriyama: "Currently I have no plans for Goku and Vegeta surpassing Birus and Whis."

Toyotaro: "I've read the plot for the new story, and I'm really happy a certain future-related character is going to be involved. I'm a huge fan!
Toriyama: That's a pretty popular character! Hopefully the kids will be happy."

Interviewer: "Maybe Toyotaro could add some of his own ideas to the plot"
Toriyama: "Yeah, that'd be cool."
Toyotaro: "Too much pressure!!!"

Toyotaro: "Having read the new plot, I'm glad a certain character related to the future is getting involved. I'm a big fan!"

"Q: Why is SSB blue?
Toriyama: "First I was going to have it be white, but that would clash with the 'next enemy', so I saved it for later."


Toyotaro & Toriyama's Interview: http://vjump.shueisha.co.jp/comic/dbs01_sp_int/

Judging for those interview, there's a potential chance of seeing Mirai Trunks again and/or maybe the Time Breakers, especially Miira.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on April 05, 2016, 11:01:05 pm
Fuck Mira! It's all about them Towa titties! :3

I'd be cool with some sort of Time Breaker fuckery, would make sense if they intend to bring back Future Trunks, and all of them have been plot characters in the games Dragon Ball: Online and Xenoverse.

Better than all of that though would have been making Piccolo viable and relevant again. >:(
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thojoewhit on April 05, 2016, 11:03:28 pm
"-- Toriyama: "Currently I have no plans for Goku and Vegeta surpassing Birus and Whis."

Toyotaro: "I've read the plot for the new story, and I'm really happy a certain future-related character is going to be involved. I'm a huge fan!
Toriyama: That's a pretty popular character! Hopefully the kids will be happy."

Interviewer: "Maybe Toyotaro could add some of his own ideas to the plot"
Toriyama: "Yeah, that'd be cool."
Toyotaro: "Too much pressure!!!"

Toyotaro: "Having read the new plot, I'm glad a certain character related to the future is getting involved. I'm a big fan!"

"Q: Why is SSB blue?
Toriyama: "First I was going to have it be white, but that would clash with the 'next enemy', so I saved it for later."


Toyotaro & Toriyama's Interview: http://vjump.shueisha.co.jp/comic/dbs01_sp_int/

Judging for those interview, there's a potential chance of seeing Mirai Trunks again and/or maybe the Time Breakers, especially Miira.

A Xenoverse/Online based arc?
Sounds kinda cool.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on April 06, 2016, 01:33:39 pm
Toriyama: "First I was going to have it be white, but that would clash with the 'next enemy', so I saved it for later."[/i][/font]

I get bad AF vibes from this statement. ö_Ö
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on April 06, 2016, 06:44:55 pm
the kaioshin people have white hair; but I have not played xenoverse so I am missing on the universe.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on April 06, 2016, 07:13:35 pm
All the recent games have the same group of time traveler demons fucking up shit.

Time Breakers.

Mira, Towa and their army of time dislocated people.

Towa is the sister of Dabura and Mira is a organic android she has built and keeps upgrading.

They were the end villains in Online they are currently the end villains in Heroes and they were the midbosses in Xenoverse.
Future Trunks is hunting them down.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 10, 2016, 08:47:32 pm
Finally things are getting serious. And we're being introduced to time shenanigans to boot with in the main series (beside Future Trunks of course).
and Monaka... seriously ? That was one big stupid & useless move from Beerus. It was basically 3 vs 5 from the start for no reason, and that's counting Piccolo, which we might as well not do. So much for a tournament.

But hey, now we're completely out of the power creep loop and full-on bizarre powers.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on April 11, 2016, 04:29:00 am
yeah, I prefer goku's bizarre adventures over powercreeping.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on April 11, 2016, 09:23:47 am
Agreed. It would have been better if Piccolo took a round just to show that at least one person was still viable.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on April 11, 2016, 05:43:01 pm
it'd been a bit better if they did not hammer the point of how useless piccolo was (goku saying that, vegeta saiyng that, etc.. ) before the fight even started; it was the perfect moment to make him seem viable and even the die by poisoning thing woudl have felt fair as that also got goku.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 17, 2016, 04:15:21 pm
*GIANT FACEPALM*
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on April 17, 2016, 04:22:30 pm
Yeah. Not gonna lie, I totally saw...

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

...Coming back as soon as a "new" technique was mentioned last week. It was a matter of time before they decided to put a transformation on top of another transformation on top of another...

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

P.S.: I would love for this forum to have the spoiler system from another forums, the one that censors words with black so it doesn't break the flow of a post that much :P
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 17, 2016, 04:33:22 pm
But you woulnd't be
Spoiler: able to put a (click to see content)

But hey,
Spoiler: here's to validating (click to see content)

(by the way, I don't think the anime even mentioned shortening the name to Super Saiyan Blue, they just went with it out of nowhere, didn't they ?)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on April 17, 2016, 04:48:01 pm
No idea, I skipped all the remakes and went straight to the current arc. It really seems like they just went with SSJ Blue out of nowhere though. At least the manga explained the change IIRC.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on April 17, 2016, 07:38:37 pm
Whis renamed it in the manga. There's a scene that's not in the anime where Goku and Vegeta keep saying "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" and Goku bites his tongue saying it.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 17, 2016, 07:45:53 pm
Yes, that was in the manga. We're talking specifically about the anime.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on April 17, 2016, 07:53:07 pm
I could swear they had a similar scene in the anime , but i wouldnt be able to pinpoint where.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on April 17, 2016, 08:33:30 pm
The shortening or the full version of the name wasn't mentioned in the anime. Goku only described what it was to Freeza. The name comes from Xenoverse right?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 17, 2016, 08:47:31 pm
I think Xeno had the full name. The name Blue appeared in the manga, so it's probably straight from Toriyama who realized how bad it was after the F movie and when Super was confirmed as a full series + manga, he couldn't keep it like that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on April 23, 2016, 06:57:53 pm
God of Gods will appears:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty


Source: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/04/23/god-hierarchy-expand-zeno-upcoming-dragon-ball-super-episode/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on April 23, 2016, 10:46:43 pm
zeno as in xenoverse?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Gennos on April 23, 2016, 10:56:12 pm
is this show still garbage?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 23, 2016, 11:16:31 pm
Depends what you're calling garbage
zeno as in xenoverse?
Doubtful, the name xenoverse was specifically made up to spell XV because it was the 15th game, zen-ou just literally means king of everything. May be a wink at the very best.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on April 23, 2016, 11:21:04 pm
Theyve been calling all "multiverse" characters Xeno in heroes so I thought it could be related and just mistranslated, thanks for the explanation.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Japanese Jesus on April 23, 2016, 11:36:31 pm
is this show still garbage?

Future Trunks (w/ sword) has not shown up yet, so yes it is.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on April 24, 2016, 02:39:48 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on April 24, 2016, 02:47:26 am
Thats not even subbed yet, why spoil people for the next episode?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on April 24, 2016, 03:05:29 am
Oh, sorry.. I forgot to put spoiler. My bad
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: DatKofGuy on May 09, 2016, 09:33:13 am
so apparently the next big bad is Black Goku (http://otakukart.com/animeblog/2016/05/09/future-trunks-returns-evil-goku-future-dragon-ball-super/), an evil future version of Goku.. and Future Trunks is coming back
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 09, 2016, 09:41:19 am
Huh, it's regular Trunks and not time patrol Trunks, so no big time disruption like in Xeno. Wonder where this black Goku comes from then. If it's from the future of this timeline,how would Trunks from an alternate future know him ? Unless future Trunks is also from this timeline, but it does talk about the Trunks that beat Cell and restored peace.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on May 09, 2016, 09:48:58 am
that sounds like a joke considered black goku was the plot of Dragonball AF with the whole Xicor thing

I dont find that news in any of the main dbz sites yet either, and they were pretty quick on talking abotu Omni King
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on May 09, 2016, 11:30:17 am
Cool, Evil Goku

I got lots of catching up to do, haven't seen a single episode yet.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on May 09, 2016, 11:44:13 am
It gets better as it goes along. You may even get by skipping the first two arcs.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: MrChris on May 09, 2016, 11:47:15 am
Cool, Evil Goku

dbz mugen edition, all over again.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on May 09, 2016, 12:19:03 pm
It gets better as it goes along. You may even get by skipping the first two arcs.

That would make him miss the vegeta training episodes. D:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on May 09, 2016, 12:28:14 pm
I prefer an crossover Tournament Arc next. Think about some Chrono Trigger, NekoMajin or Dr. Slump Characters taking place in one of the universes. Maybe Future Trunks is a fighter from one of the 12 universes. We have to see who this Evil Goku is. I hope they won't make Character ripoffs or more counterparts like they did with Frieza and Frost. The only counterpart I would like to see is one for Bardock.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on May 09, 2016, 04:48:32 pm
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

Now I belieb it.

(http://www.kanzenshuu.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/super_trunks_designs_edited.jpg?3623c5)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on May 09, 2016, 05:02:57 pm
Trunks has been getting into Bulma's hair dye as well, I see.  I miss the purple already.

But geez, they really are dipping into the fan series out there for ideas, huh?  Give it the benefit of the doubt, but...Black Goku?  We already went through Turles.  But hey, maybe there is still hope for that reworked SSJ4 form (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CKkSGRkVEAAx3i1.jpg).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on May 09, 2016, 05:07:21 pm
Thats just Toryama concept art, he always draw trunks and bulma with the same hair color.

Maybe the Black Goku is Xenoverse Bardock.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on May 09, 2016, 06:42:48 pm
dunno if related:

http://nlab.itmedia.co.jp/nl/articles/1605/09/news097.html
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 09, 2016, 07:37:02 pm
For their 60th anniversary, Toei opened a Youtube channel until July 2017, and it will have some of their series like Dragon Ball, Ojamajo Doremi, Digimon Adventure for free. DBZ, having run for 30 years, includes 2 movies, Path to Power from '96 and History of Trunks from '93. The currently airing Dragon Ball Super is also moving into a Future Trunks arc starting June 12, hence the occasion. (the rest is a quick list of examples of 40 other series that the Youtube channel will have, like Arale, Hokuto no ken etc.)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on May 09, 2016, 11:25:52 pm
thanks :)

back to black goku, I feel it has been properly set up in S, he's becoming more and more egoistical and close minded ; I mean, it was alerady pretty bad in the cell saga, but lately he' even bothering people who job is to destroy planets for his personal objectives.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on May 10, 2016, 12:20:46 am
I can be very wrong, but it's only I see "Super" Goku has more of how Toriyama see the main character than "Z" Goku?

I mean, the stupid and broly-level-based inoccence of that character was more showed in DBZ mangá, and DBS seems to follow that thing.

At least in the DBZ anime, Goku has somewat a "scout" and kinda matured persona.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on May 10, 2016, 04:49:39 pm
For their 60th anniversary, Toei opened a Youtube channel until July 2017, and it will have some of their series like Dragon Ball, Ojamajo Doremi, Digimon Adventure for free.
nice, gonna check it ou-... aaand it's region locked. fuck the internet
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on May 15, 2016, 02:26:01 pm
Heyyy it's time for dumb shit fillers, and it involves Pilaf. ... That's not going to last until June 12th, is it ??!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on May 16, 2016, 02:14:28 pm
Heyyy it's time for dumb shit fillers, and it involves Pilaf. ... That's not going to last until June 12th, is it ??!

Oh common the parts with Piccolo where nice, and I have rather a slice of life filler here and there instead of "Endless 5 Minute" fights of the old DBZ Time.  ;D
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cybaster on May 16, 2016, 03:18:50 pm
Heyyy it's time for dumb shit fillers, and it involves Pilaf. ... That's not going to last until June 12th, is it ??!
And here I was hoping to see the multiverse tournament before another Arc. Oh well....
Sounds reasonable for the fillers to last until June 12th, with fillers being animated by the shit studios, leaving some time for the good studio(s) to draw the important episodes.

Oh well, at least we have Jojo and Archer episodes to hold until then.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on May 16, 2016, 03:45:12 pm
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

Now I belieb it.

(http://www.kanzenshuu.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/super_trunks_designs_edited.jpg?3623c5)
I just realized.
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/4/4c/Android_17_(DBZ).jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130116210733)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: XamΣeta on May 16, 2016, 04:17:35 pm
I'm thinking this Black or Evil Goku might hail from the newly recreated Earth 6....then maybe not, since Universe 6 Saiyans are peaceful folk and not planet conquering pirate warriors. His look also reminds me of a Baby possessed Vegeta.

Anyways, exciting times ahead.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on May 16, 2016, 04:25:34 pm
His look? What look? No one released Goku Bu Ra Ku images.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on June 01, 2016, 08:27:32 pm
Dragonball Super didn't care much about power levels. I wonder why Gotenks SSJ3 was so weak against copy Vegeta in the last Episode. This is the first time we see SSJ3 being so weak. I don't count Goku's first fight as a SSJ3 against Beerus on King Kai's planet.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on June 01, 2016, 10:52:05 pm
Well, Vegeta and Goku trained a lot with Whis, while Goten and Trunks just flew around, so I think it's acceptable.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on June 02, 2016, 04:41:21 am
Sadly Gotenks didn't use the Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack.  :'(

Anyway, makes sense that SSJ3 Gotenks doesn't had chance against Slime Vegeta (that's the way i call the copied Vegeta...).
Goten and Trunks need to train A LOT to get Vegeta and Goku level (which will not happen...).

But these recent episodes after the tournament are fillers??
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Neocide on June 02, 2016, 05:32:48 am
They are I also thought the slime Vegeta was a bit stronger than normal vegeta
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 02, 2016, 12:21:53 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj7NpmiVAAEafeF.jpg:large)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 02, 2016, 12:57:22 pm
>Mai
Seriously
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on June 02, 2016, 01:04:45 pm
Are those the potara earrings?
And yeah, why Mai?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 02, 2016, 01:24:12 pm
Well, the anime fillers have been hinting at a bullshit potential romance ever since Pilaf returned rejuvenated and Trunks made Goten believe Mai was his girlfriend in the first movie, so there's something, but I really thought it was the fillers digging way deeper than it should have because fillers.

It looks like the potalas but different color I think ? Might be an inversion of what happened between Buu and the chief Kaioh Shin. But we still don't know how this Goku appeared in a timeline where he died. Hell shenanigans ? Would be a shitty explanation. Maybe the Buu of the future timeline who never got to Earth is involved ?
And then there's the bullshit about Mai being alive AND young (from Shenron ??) in that timeline.
(And with all that being said, I'm having vibes from the very early db saga with Yamcha and the first encounters with Pilaf and Mai)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 02, 2016, 02:30:26 pm
maybe its a separation potara and goku was divided into five coloured gokus with each representing an aspect of him.
Black is evil, red is rage, yellow is afraid of needles, green is lazy,  white can play a flute and summon the dragonzord.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on June 02, 2016, 05:28:32 pm
Yeesh, the whole blak goku shit sounds like a story a dumb ssj-obsessed youtuber wrote.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 02, 2016, 05:32:20 pm
I don't nkow how time travels work in dragon ball rules but normally it would be based on this timeline before this future trunks travels to the past, since we still don't have a black goku mai is still a child but later something will happen that will create black goku and this future trunks (not the one from the cell saga) will have to return to around the current point of time of S to stop goku from turning black.

that's assuming super works on more generic anime "time travel" rules.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on June 02, 2016, 05:46:57 pm
I believe I understand what is going to happen in the story after doing significant research and re-watching Dragon Ball Super in its entirety up to this point and BotG a few more times.
So I figured it out.. basically, in the near future an episode will be released that explains who/when this Trunks came from and why he is here! We will also learn of Black Goku, and Mai is fucking hot and you all suck, I'd slap those 50 year old titties around like Rocky on a speedbag.

I uploaded this new DBS theory episode on Youtube with all this great information, please like, favorite, and subscribe and viral it on Reddit plz! I really need the youtube revenue so disable ad-block.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 02, 2016, 06:05:45 pm
This Trunks is confirmed to be the one that killed Cell and stayed in his parallel timeline.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 02, 2016, 06:10:45 pm
This Trunks is confirmed to be the one that killed Cell and stayed in his parallel timeline.

yeah, I know db kinda does it's own things regarding well, pretty much everything including time travel.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hephaistos31 on June 02, 2016, 06:19:12 pm
maybe its a separation potara and goku was divided into five coloured gokus with each representing an aspect of him.
Black is evil, red is rage, yellow is afraid of needles, green is lazy,  white can play a flute and summon the dragonzord.

ah ah ah! :D You made my day! :)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on June 02, 2016, 07:00:12 pm
Aren't those potara earrings the same colour as the potara that the Universe 6 Kais wear?
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/b414237fa0459efa78cdfbdf3bdff0f0/tumblr_o2vxbmizlW1v93gggo2_1280.jpg)
Just minus the gold clip bit.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 02, 2016, 07:10:49 pm
maybe its a separation potara and goku was divided into five coloured gokus with each representing an aspect of him.
Black is evil, red is rage, yellow is afraid of needles, green is lazy,  white can play a flute and summon the dragonzord.

DRAGON BALL COLORS
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on June 02, 2016, 11:28:36 pm
Aren't those potara earrings the same colour as the potara that the Universe 6 Kais wear?
[snip]
Just minus the gold clip bit.

So about that.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/a/a1/Swallow.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160416044850)

Literally the exact same earrings.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on June 03, 2016, 01:13:01 am
its probably a demigra-corrupted/possessed alternate future goku, hence the time patroller trunks
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on June 03, 2016, 03:34:10 am
Aren't those potara earrings the same colour as the potara that the Universe 6 Kais wear?
[snip]
Just minus the gold clip bit.

So about that.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/a/a1/Swallow.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20160416044850)

Literally the exact same earrings.

So, Xenoverse reference or a connection??
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 03, 2016, 11:29:40 am
If we assume they are just regular potaras....  What if itslike a "One" scenario where someone ismultiverse traveling to fuse with copies of himself and get stronger.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: TrinitroRoy on June 03, 2016, 02:11:39 pm
DRAGON BALL COLORS

brb, genuily waiting for a DBZ arc now where Goku absorbs alien abilities and transforms into a rocket and other things
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 03, 2016, 03:01:09 pm
(http://www.shonengamez.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Black-Goku-Scan.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on June 03, 2016, 03:05:21 pm
The bright side to all this filler is that it's allowing me to catch up before the new arc. Didn't have time to binge watch.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 05, 2016, 05:31:16 am
So what's going on with Trunks' hair? Future Trunks has his hair blue now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on June 05, 2016, 05:43:47 am
It turns out Trunks was an SJW and dyed his hair blue as a form of rebellious protest against societal norms in the future.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 05, 2016, 05:52:22 am
in the manga Bulma always had purple hair, so when trunks was introduced his hair was the same shade as hers.

In the anime, bulma had turquoise hair, a shade of blue. But trunks kept his purple hair when introduced.


In super her hair is even bluer than before, the trunks in the promo seems to have the same hair colour as her.  Kid trunks in super still has purple hair tho.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 05, 2016, 12:05:46 pm
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/File:BulmaKanzenban.png
Bulma as Toriyama draws and colors her. Should be obvious enough.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 05, 2016, 01:12:19 pm
curious in the last episode they show present bulma and present trunks side by side and theyboth have purpleis h whiteish hair,
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: drewski90 on June 05, 2016, 02:47:06 pm
can anyone give me an actual release date for the english dub of dragon ball super? i know it's supposed to come in mid-2016 but i need to know now
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 05, 2016, 11:04:23 pm
dunno most people in this topic are not even american and they are teh ones who care about an english dub; red and I woudl rather worry about a latam dub, for example.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 09, 2016, 10:29:52 am
ad for the next arc.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bea on June 09, 2016, 12:27:49 pm
Seeing Mai made relevant again makes me really happy.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Graphicus on June 09, 2016, 06:13:54 pm
Despite the obvious resemblance, I'm not sure that IS Mai. She looked older than Bulma in the first Dragonball arc, whereas here she appears to be Trunks' age. Perhaps it's a new character?

EDIT: Originally guessed it might be Pan, but I doubt she'd be using firearms if that were the case.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on June 09, 2016, 06:31:08 pm
I think it's Mai.
You can see her in the Battle of Gods arc, also in the filler episode where Pan (baby) got kidnapped by the Pilaf gang (there's also Mai) and learns to fly.

She's as old as Trunks in the present time (maybe because of a wrong Shenron wish), so in the future she could look like that. It can be one of many different futures.

My guess is that the new Future Trunks isn't even the one they knew in the Android Saga.
And yes, he says he defeated Cell in his own timeline, but it can easily be one of the other many parallel futures.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on June 09, 2016, 06:47:23 pm
The Fuji TV producer confirmed it is Mai.  (http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/06/03/future-trunks-arc-key-visual-revealed-dragon-ball-super/)

Although, pinch of salt and all that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 09, 2016, 07:27:43 pm
The whole Pilaf gang was rejuvenated shortly before the Battle of Gods events. they've been running around in the movies and the entire series all the time (on Earth at least).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 09, 2016, 07:32:15 pm
Seeing Mai made relevant again makes me really happy.

Yeah... For one episode max, before Trunks travels back in time and we never see her again until the end of the arc :P
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bea on June 09, 2016, 07:35:21 pm
Seeing Mai made relevant again makes me really happy.

Yeah... For one episode max, before Trunks travels back in time and we never see her again until the end of the arc :P

Considering how the status quo is making anyone that isn't Goku or Vegeta irrelevant since the Buu Saga, even if it is one episode, I will be happy. :P
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 09, 2016, 07:44:40 pm
Seeing Mai made relevant again makes me really happy.

Yeah... For one episode max, before Trunks travels back in time and we never see her again until the end of the arc :P

well, as implied by bea, once trunks travels back in time even he will stop being relevant. :P
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 09, 2016, 07:47:03 pm
As noted in the Kanzenshuu article Ultima posted, the VA of Mai says (https://twitter.com/eiko751/status/734915096791506944) she'll be there every week from ep 47 on. They can find a way if they want.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 09, 2016, 08:32:55 pm
trunks will go full pedo with loli mai.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 09, 2016, 08:41:03 pm
Mai's over 50 when she meets 8~12 y.o. Trunks.

... It's that loli argument again, is she really a loli if she looks like a child but really is 50 or 250...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 09, 2016, 08:56:23 pm
first hint is how she acts, what's the point of a loli being 1000 years old if she still acts 10, that is why frederika and loli mercuy are superior lolis, they actually act their age (and it's fun how drunk bern is when she is acting 10).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 12, 2016, 02:16:43 pm
So good, great leap in quality.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: NoZ on June 12, 2016, 02:55:14 pm
Black looks badass
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on June 12, 2016, 03:20:59 pm
I saw the Ep.47 and for me, it's the best, but also the saddest episode of DB Super for now.
Spoiler: Don't click if you won't watch the episode!! (click to see content)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 12, 2016, 03:23:47 pm
arguing and theorizing

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

New heroes trailer based on the episode

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on June 12, 2016, 03:30:35 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 12, 2016, 04:17:25 pm
So, considering how dumb the time travelling rules are this means that:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Also:

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on June 12, 2016, 05:13:51 pm
Wasn't Trunks 20 years in the future? Doesn't time pass even in the past and the future? Trunks says he's going 17 years back in time. Shouldn't he go 20 years back in time?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on June 12, 2016, 07:34:48 pm
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 13, 2016, 04:17:21 am
(http://i.imgur.com/NetEf8F.gif)
Trunks didnt
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 13, 2016, 06:58:45 am
with the way time travel works here I don't know if goten should or should not be born.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on June 13, 2016, 11:32:21 am
Right. Goku died too early in the bad future. Mai didn't have any canon appearances since.....the Piccolo Daimou arc so they could probably handwave it and say she, Pilaf and Shu wished for youth off screen.

Goku became a bit more lean when he went SSG. So maybe this is a similar thing. (Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Blue Super Saiyan Black will be the name or some such thing) 
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hephaistos31 on June 13, 2016, 11:39:01 am
Of course Black is Goten, I agree with that!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Nakiri on June 13, 2016, 11:44:49 am
Gotenk fusion with some evil guy so that why Black have potara earring
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hephaistos31 on June 13, 2016, 11:58:07 am
why only one potala, so?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on June 13, 2016, 12:18:33 pm
But Trunks is from a future where everyone was killed before Goten was a thing, no way I can see him becoming Black.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Nakiri on June 13, 2016, 12:39:06 pm
why only one potala, so?

I think some kind of method to fusion with a potara.We got dark dragon ball,super saiya god so they may develop about fusion story too.I should call Dark fusion.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 13, 2016, 01:58:17 pm
The reason it can't be Goten is the same as the reason it can't be Goku, though. Unless someone messed around with the Other World (Hell etc.) AND brought back Goku AND corrupted him in some way.
BTW, on Super Saiyan Blue, didn't Toriyama said he thought about giving him white hair, but that it would clash with the next vilain ? Because we have a Kaioh Shin now, white hair.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 13, 2016, 02:10:33 pm
Right. Goku died too early in the bad future. Mai didn't have any canon appearances since.....the Piccolo Daimou arc so they could probably handwave it and say she, Pilaf and Shu wished for youth off screen.

Goku became a bit more lean when he went SSG. So maybe this is a similar thing. (Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Blue Super Saiyan Black will be the name or some such thing)

When the pilaf gang got the dragonballs again in the freeza ressurection arc they were surprised there was more than one wish.
That squarely places their wish for youth  before Piccolo and Kami fused during the android saga. ( Dende was the one that upgraded the wishes) .

The whole android saga was very short and Goku died at the beginning of it due to heart disease, that means chichi could have been pregnant before the android saga begun. ( The whole thing was like a week or two, facing cell tournament at the end of the second)  Its entirely possible Goten was still born in future trunks timeline, just kept with OX king or maybe in the wild.


The one earring makes him look as if he is carrying the other ring in his pocket to force someone to fuse with him. Maybe thats why hes pursuing Trunks?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 13, 2016, 02:44:02 pm
I think fanon usually assumes Goten was conceived during the week before the Cell Games, after Goku comes out of the Time Chamber. In fact, it's probably *because* Goten never appeared in the future timeline.
But the future timeline was written before the Buu saga, so before Goten was a thing, in all possible meanings of the word. It's plausible that this is Toriyama finally clarifying that and saying "actually, Goten was conceived before the heart attack, which was shortly before the androids, not a year before" (especially since he only has it *during* the #19 fight in our timeline).
Goten being raised by Chichi and ox king would explain his hatred against Saiyans and his not fighting the androids.

As for the Pilaf gang... Did they return to baby form, then ?? Mai seems to be about the age of Trunks, so if she rejuvenated before the Kami fusion, they were as old as Trunks, so babies...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 13, 2016, 02:50:51 pm
It would explain why they were gone for so long, they were growing up to being able to walk around and do shit again.

Which is the end of buu saga when they are around ten year olds

Wait...
(http://i.imgur.com/DoWhmRi.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jFJMoSr.jpg)
Is chichi earring the same that Goku Black wears?

(This is likely turn out to be just Goku as a god or something, but I find this part of waiting for next episodes and debating so much fun.)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 13, 2016, 02:55:25 pm
Is chichi earring the same that Goku Black wears?
Lol that would be the red herring bait and switch of the century. In Dragon Ball of all things.

Yeah, that.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 13, 2016, 03:00:37 pm
They did have one scene where Chichi prevented Goten from training and had him studying instead!

And she used to hate super sayans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xl48L0qoAUI
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 13, 2016, 03:04:32 pm
I wanna see how future Trunks interacts with Trunks. No one likes Trunks, probably not even his future self.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: HadeS on June 13, 2016, 04:07:56 pm
I was thinking last night about Black being Goten instead of Goku and all of you were talking about it. It's interesting and everything makes sense. I'm glad I'm not the only crazy one here :P

I have a question because I don't remember and I'm sure you do. Do you remember if this scene was in any of the previous intros? Because my thought was that Goku and Vegeta end up traveling to the future but I want to make sure this scene isn't repeated.
(http://i.imgur.com/shovPpM.jpg)

About Chichi's earrings... more evidence. They're the same potala earrings except for the white part which is golden now but, they changed the color of Trunks' hair so.
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Post by: Byakko on June 13, 2016, 04:20:58 pm
Yes, that shot has been there since ep. 1.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: HadeS on June 13, 2016, 04:21:38 pm
Ok. Thank you. My bad. I'm old, it seems lol
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Nakiri on June 13, 2016, 04:36:12 pm
(http://img11.deviantart.net/bc9b/i/2016/154/3/0/dragonball_super__black_goku_s_potara_earring_by_xxdigiradiancexx-da4tme9.png)

BLACK and Demigra have the same earrings.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 13, 2016, 04:50:06 pm
So does Chichi ! :o
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 13, 2016, 05:08:14 pm
black is trunks and mai's child.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on June 13, 2016, 06:57:49 pm
Akira Toriyama likes drawing Goku's face and hair. Bardock, Goten and Turtles all have the same faces and hair. It would be funny if Black Goku just looks like Goku without being related to them just like Turtles.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on June 14, 2016, 03:50:11 pm
goddamn it dragonball and its ridiculous future rules shit, everything seems out of order and confusing now :s
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 14, 2016, 03:56:19 pm
You say that but we don't actually know anything, all of this is only guessing. They can very easily make it super simple and straightforward. So no, Dragon Ball is not confusing, come on. And it never acually had any confusing future rules either. There only ever was one twist with Cell coming from yet another future after Trunks himself.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: yaminogun on June 15, 2016, 03:37:36 pm
turles is not canon. black look younger than trunks, no tail and he wear long sleeve just like goten. future goten confirmed???
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 15, 2016, 03:41:47 pm
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/05/09/future-trunks-arc-announced-dragon-ball-super/

Now I belieb it.

(http://www.kanzenshuu.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/super_trunks_designs_edited.jpg?3623c5)

Got some news.Inan interview with Trunks voice actor he stated

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 15, 2016, 06:13:55 pm
You say that but we don't actually know anything, all of this is only guessing. They can very easily make it super simple and straightforward. So no, Dragon Ball is not confusing, come on. And it never acually had any confusing future rules either. There only ever was one twist with Cell coming from yet another future after Trunks himself.

I was having a talk with someone about how if you want to fit with dragon ball is dong with standar anime time travel rules , it's complex/broken; but otherwise it's simpler to explain as not pure time travel. the time machine makes them travel to a different time point in a different *universe, so besides time travel , they also leap to a side universe, which is what allows the time travel inconsistencies, so it's more like umineko than steins;gate.

*universe as in the common version of it and not the dragon ball definition.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 15, 2016, 06:52:54 pm
Oh, yeah, what exactly does Bulma's time goo do is an incomprehensible macguffin, but the timeline split and Trunks navigating between them is just straightforward. It's not like this kind of science fiction brain busting theory was a big deal in Japan at the time Toriyama wrote that, it's more like, who cares. Don't ask Doc Brown to mend it. It's fine as long as we don't ask Trunks to travel five minutes into the past to see if he lands in the main timeline five minutes earlier or in his own timeline.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on June 19, 2016, 11:25:58 am
Black Goku can go through time with a ring. Preview of Episode 49 explains it a bit. I believe that ring will be bringing Future Trunks back to it's time later as he was able to travel one way in the current state.

I hope the Super Dragon Shenron can grant wishes through time and restore the future world, revive Bulma and Mai. Another solution could be Shenron. They can gather the Dragonballs and travel to the future with Dende. The Dragonballs follows it's creator anywhere and is able to grant wishes. Remember Guru and all Namek teleported to air and the Dragonballs did too. So this could be possible between times too I guess.

This news also shows a new Character called Zamasu.

New Character “Zamasu” Teased For “Dragon Ball Super”.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/06/18/new-character-zamasu-teased-dragon-ball-super/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on June 19, 2016, 11:36:10 am
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The issue goes on to confirm that “Zamasu” will be played by Shin’ichiro Miki

Oh cool

I don't see why Super Shenron couldn't, he's able to grant wishes that transcend universes.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thagr8test on June 21, 2016, 03:41:48 am
Trunks reaction to seeing goku when awoke was handled great finally able to get into this new series a bit
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 21, 2016, 03:51:30 am
So, future Trunks has Blue hair "just because" and Bulma knew that before even seeing him for the first time in years? Is this another case of "Toriyama just forgot about it" or what? I mean it totally fits him (And I wish it was his color in DBZ) but it still doesn't make any sense, even though it's a small detail.

Also an entire episode seems to be dedicated to Goku fighting Trunks, which seems unnecessary. I know it sounds rather lame compared to a big fight but one would expect them all to subdue Trunks so he can actually explain to them wtf is going on and why he's back (And the fight will probably be justified with "Goku wants to fight, let him have his fun").

Everything is just so weird. Sudden change of hair color, some weird evil Goku who may or may not be Goten and may or may not be fused with a Kaioshin or whatever, Mai was young when she should've been either old or DEAD, the date Trunks picked to travel back in time (Rather than go to a time frame close to his departure, where he KNEW how things were like, he decided to go to a time frame he has NO IDEA about, something extremely dangerous).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Xhominid on June 21, 2016, 04:14:30 am
So, future Trunks has Blue hair "just because" and Bulma knew that before even seeing him for the first time in years? Is this another case of "Toriyama just forgot about it" or what? I mean it totally fits him (And I wish it was his color in DBZ) but it still doesn't make any sense, even though it's a small detail.

Also an entire episode seems to be dedicated to Goku fighting Trunks, which seems unnecessary. I know it sounds rather lame compared to a big fight but one would expect them all to subdue Trunks so he can actually explain to them wtf is going on and why he's back (And the fight will probably be justified with "Goku wants to fight, let him have his fun").

Everything is just so weird. Sudden change of hair color, some weird evil Goku who may or may not be Goten and may or may not be fused with a Kaioshin or whatever, Mai was young when she should've been either old or DEAD, the date Trunks picked to travel back in time (Rather than go to a time frame close to his departure, where he KNEW how things were like, he decided to go to a time frame he has NO IDEA about, something extremely dangerous).

Fun Fact: Trunks had purple hair because Bulma in the earlier stages of the manga had purple hair herself but then gotten greenish-blue hair in the anime.

This is most likely Toriyama finally just centralizing them to have the same hair color rather just make Bulma's purple since she had that type of hair color from the start of the anime.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on June 22, 2016, 12:52:22 am
Goku sacreficed his life during the Cell Games and Trunks left after Gohan defeated him. So Trunks might still think that Goku is dead for so many years. When he traveled for the second time, maybe his idea was to receive help from Gohan, Vegeta and all others. He could be in shock seeing Goku and thinking he is Black Goku.

As for Trunks having blue hair. Akira Toriyama always gave Trunks Blue hair as a concept for drawing. Even Kid Trunks had blue hair but, it seems they changed it for the Anime version.

https://xtremepyrosonic.com/2016/05/12/why-does-future-trunks-have-blue-hair/
https://otakukart.com/animeblog/2016/06/08/future-trunks-crying-hair-blue-dragon-ball-super/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thagr8test on June 22, 2016, 01:14:16 am
that isnt really an explanation as to why his hair is blue in the anime now vs his introduction having purple hair and kid trunks hair still being purple as well as bulma magically knowing his hair is blue now but I just assumed everyone was cool with that as with the other nonsense the new series introduced so I didn't pose the question myself
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on June 22, 2016, 01:23:13 am
I'm not a fan of the blue hair at all personally.  Super Cyan doesn't help there though.  Vegeta's black hair + Bulma's blue hair turning out Trunks' purple hair just made sense for me, seems an extremely late arbitrary reason out of Toriyama's personal preference to rewrite it as blue.  But then, it's also a series about everyone's more important when they're blond, and now we're approaching rainbow territory, so it's more a slight annoyance when they're back to normal than "TRUNKS RUINED 4EVER!" or whatever.

I am curious why he decided to change Trunks' hair, though, and not 18's in Battle of Gods now.  As he had previous ideas for her as well.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 22, 2016, 01:35:48 am
that isnt really an explanation as to why his hair is blue in the anime now vs his introduction having purple hair and kid trunks hair still being purple as well as bulma magically knowing his hair is blue now but I just assumed everyone was cool with that as with the other nonsense the new series introduced so I didn't pose the question myself
Yes, it's an explanation. It's called retcon by the anime being dumb and not making up their mind and just trying to handwave it away.

Seriously people stop fucking obsessing over this. Future Trunks has blue hair and as far as everyone in the series is concerned, he always has.
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an extremely late arbitrary reason out of Toriyama's personal preference to rewrite it as blue.
Toriyama always gave him the same hair color. The anime is the one doing both changes one way and then the other.

Oh by the way, didn't Iced just post a rumor that present Trunks is about to get his growth spurt ? It would mean that they're giving the two Trunks a different hair color simply to recognize who's who on the screen, but they're both canonically supposed to be blue. It's an easy and obvious way to differentiate two characters on screen who are supposed to be identical.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 22, 2016, 01:38:17 am
future trunks is always in super saiyan god state, word.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thagr8test on June 22, 2016, 01:59:39 am
I agree its not a deal breaker or anything the color change is fine bulma somehow knowing of it before seeing him was what threw me off but again its db afterall and they have done worse in this show and in the past showa so I'm not making this the hill I die on as I first posted in spite of the hair hiccup his reintroduction is what intrigued enough to check back into the new series so hopefully things take a turn in a better direction going forward
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on June 22, 2016, 10:18:36 pm
This guy has a good explanation with sources for the color change, it's not the first time it happened that Toriyama screwed up the hair colors, because he is lazy and don't want to check what hairstyles he used before.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on June 22, 2016, 10:35:40 pm
Toriyama wasn't the one who did it, those changes were done in the anime. Kid Trunks concept art also had blue hair.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 22, 2016, 10:38:42 pm
Let's just hope this guy doesn't learn of JoJo's existence.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on June 22, 2016, 10:53:00 pm
Toriyama wasn't the one who did it, those changes were done in the anime. Kid Trunks concept art also had blue hair.

Hair colors where also inconsistent in the colored pages of the Manga.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 22, 2016, 11:05:06 pm


His freaking themesong is "The blue wind of hope".
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Post by: Byakko on June 22, 2016, 11:17:52 pm
"hope of the blue wind".
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on June 24, 2016, 09:26:04 am
Quotting my own post.
This news also shows a new Character called Zamasu.

New Character “Zamasu” Teased For “Dragon Ball Super”.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/06/18/new-character-zamasu-teased-dragon-ball-super/

Black Goku wears the same white boots and same earrings like Zamasu does. Also, the image bellow must be a flashback of his story.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 24, 2016, 09:43:00 am
I was going to send you back to the previous page where this was posted but you yourself were the one who posted that there  :seius:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on June 24, 2016, 09:52:15 am
Yes i did. I was going to quote my own post at first and then make my comment about the similarities between Black Goku and Zamasu. I guess I forgot about that. I'll fix it. Thanks man.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 24, 2016, 10:12:17 am
Not the same earring.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 24, 2016, 10:15:06 am
Suit might be a version of the z sword suit Gohan had when being unlocked into mystic form.

#Blackisgotenmysticconfirmed
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 25, 2016, 11:47:14 am
Hahaha the manga chapter of the Goku vs Hit is finally out and guess what there's no Kaiohken x Super Saiyan Blue bullshit after all. It was only some crap made up by the anime as usual, just like the first time they did it in Hell with Paikuhan and the Super Kaiohken. Good thing we can compare both to figure out what Toriyama's script really was.

Oh, and it's all JoJo up in my Dragon Ball.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sanji The Prince on June 25, 2016, 12:10:32 pm
Hahaha the manga chapter of the Goku vs Hit is finally out and guess what there's no Kaiohken x Super Saiyan Blue bullshit after all. It was only some crap made up by the anime as usual, just like the first time they did it in Hell with Paikuhan and the Super Kaiohken. Good thing we can compare both to figure out what Toriyama's script really was.

Ehm...If I'm not wrong, the anime is the true one. Anime version base from what Toriyama actual idea is while manga, Toriyama give Toyotaro a freedom to mix with his twist a bit. Toyotaro state this from the recent interview with him and Toriyama. Toyotaro did this so that people will still read the manga, coz right now the anime is leading up, so he know that people might forgetting about the manga since Super story was "manga base on anime", unlike the previous story where "anime base on manga". Toyotaro also change Hit personality to some kind of arrogant character in manga, he even smile in a sinister way, contrast with Hit in anime who was a cool and calm person.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 25, 2016, 12:14:43 pm
I've never heard anything like the anime being truer to the script. They both get a script from Toriyama - and Toyotaro even chats with Toriyama about it. Meanwhile the anime has a gigantic record of making up bullshit to fill up time.
What I'm saying is, sure Toyotaro comes up with details on his own (the whole JoJo timestop battle is definitely his own), but it's really obvious by seeing the manga that the Kaiohken mix was not in Toriyama's script. It's not like Toyotaro would have *removed* something as important as that if it was in the script.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 26, 2016, 06:10:55 am
Daaaaaamn, Trunks reached SSJ2 and the next episode is already a

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 26, 2016, 01:38:25 pm
I notice that they showed Goten and specifically held him back from going to see Future Trunks. Future Trunks doesn't know that Goten exists...
And lol the anime got the forms wrong, Goku's not SSJ2 there, only SSJ1. So Trunks isn't SSJ2 either despite what Goku says ? He doesn't even change. The preview for next week does show Goku as SSJ2, so I don't see how they'd mess this up (though it's clearly from the team that knows how to draw this time).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 26, 2016, 01:50:30 pm
They are hinting at goten too much that its going to be awkward if it turns out its not him.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Nakiri on June 26, 2016, 01:58:18 pm
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/0/0f/Tumblr_mt8lhjIUkm1rqlw0lo1_500.png/revision/latest?cb=20151021194304)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 26, 2016, 07:46:02 pm
only goku is worthy
 even as an enemy nowadays, it seems
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 26, 2016, 07:55:15 pm
Black also presented himself as Son Goku, or so Trunks says. Why would Black lie about his identity?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 26, 2016, 08:03:11 pm
If Goku died of a heart attack mere days before the androids attacked and everyone died, who knows, maybe Chichi named him Goku instead of Goten to give herself a tiny bit of hope ? And then Goten/Goku Black somehow left and met this new Kaioh Shin and went on to destroy planets through the universe and so on before coming back after the androids were gone and Dabura and Babidi were killed.

.... Yes, I know, that's reaching.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 26, 2016, 08:12:27 pm
with the kaioshin... like it happened with Gohan. When he got that mystic upgrade by the Kaioshins. Maybe thats why this Black guy doesnt transform.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 26, 2016, 08:23:09 pm
Speaking of Gohan, it wouldn't be the first time a baby is given the name of a deceased parent.
Either way, even if it's reaching, Black being in fact Goku would be even worse since, you know, Goku's dead in that timeline.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: PeXXeR on June 26, 2016, 09:30:31 pm
I really like the new future trunks arc so far, before that meh... does anybody know  what the new preview episode music is called ? its so damn awesome.
They should give us a throw back with this song though.Song is still awesome.
0:45

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on June 26, 2016, 10:39:57 pm
DBS's soundtrack in general is great and I love how the current arc's music in general sound like. You can totally tell that it's a more serious arc.
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Post by: Niitris on June 26, 2016, 11:06:08 pm
Agreed, the music with Black's scenes in particular is quite immersive.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: PeXXeR on June 27, 2016, 12:30:12 am
Maybe its nostalgia speaking but I still prefer the old OST and art style, but I am very happy so far with this arc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 27, 2016, 12:41:49 am





no clean rips yet but this is really good so far.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on June 27, 2016, 03:21:37 am
Agreed, DBS soundtrack is neat, really great, especially in this arc.

Well, about Episode 49.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on June 27, 2016, 06:14:26 am
I want a gif of trunks longing for loli mai.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on June 27, 2016, 09:44:24 pm
I want a gif of trunks longing for loli mai.

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Post by: Niitris on June 27, 2016, 09:47:06 pm
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That gaze
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 27, 2016, 11:24:10 pm
I want a gif of trunks longing for loli mai.

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thanks, you are the best.
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no mr.cop, you see, in the future she's 20

also, if mirai trunks traveled 17 years to the past and child trunks is 13 here, is not mirai trunks 30 ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 27, 2016, 11:43:29 pm
Yes.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 28, 2016, 12:41:37 am
(http://media.melty.fr/article-3262633-ratio265_1020-f3678512/dragon-ball-super-episode-50-51-52-53-vostfr.jpg)

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Post by: R565 on June 28, 2016, 12:55:22 am
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Post by: PeXXeR on June 28, 2016, 03:50:07 am
Awfully convenient that, black has a time traveling ring on him, that sounds like some fan fiction stuff, but oh well, than's anime for you.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 28, 2016, 03:53:32 am
look at the symbol on the ring and the symbol on the crown of the character I posted.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on June 28, 2016, 04:07:13 am
Awfully convenient that, black has a time traveling ring on him, that sounds like some fan fiction stuff, but oh well, than's anime for you.

It's not that absurd.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on June 28, 2016, 04:11:17 am
Yay super is finally getting good. Tho I hope it's not too predictable, like goku sandbags black until he's forced to reveal his god mode, then black is able to go god mode or able to keep up with God mode goku. Anyways what's up with blue hair trunks?!?!? Did I miss something? Also don't know what that image is suppose to imply iced. Looks like Dabura and a female God?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on June 28, 2016, 04:32:33 am
Dabura and his sister Towa (from Xenoverse and DB:Online). Towa uses dark some power to posses people and later power herself up, and has her own creation/fighter/sex slave named Mira.

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Breakers (http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Time_Breakers). The Time Breaker logo, infinity, is pretty much exactly what is on Black's ring. I'd be really happy with Towa making it into the show as a villain personally so I hope this is a precursor to the Time Breakers.

It'd make sense since they reintroduced Trunks and put a bunch of emphasis on both powering up the Time Machine again and a lot of god talk about the crimes of time travel and why it is bad. Instead of just saving the Universe they'll be saving time which is the same plot from DB:O and Xenoverse.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on June 28, 2016, 04:43:51 am
look at the symbol on the ring and the symbol on the crown of the character I posted.
you mean the symbol on teh ant-size picture you posted?

here's a better one
(http://i.imgur.com/ZElUkbX.png)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: PeXXeR on June 28, 2016, 05:24:25 am
So they are bringing that time patrol trunks stuff into super eh ? seems cool, but how can goku be manipulated if he is dead ?
I am reading some fan theories about a black kayoshin or something like that, we'll see.
I do agree though, super is getting really good, the arcs before that were decent. Beerus one was cool, freeza, meh, the tournament arc was cool also, the slice of life episodes of super are cool as all hell.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on June 28, 2016, 06:31:41 am
tho, trunks being in his thirties also mean that goten should be in his late 20s at best.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 30, 2016, 04:05:47 pm

mine was hotlinked and apparently appears smaller than what i intended. Thanks!

I read something interesting. a fan saying that Goten actually has specific designs for the hair, with 3 spikes on the sides of his head as opposed to goku four spikes.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on June 30, 2016, 05:15:56 pm
Kid Goku also had 3 spikes... Except when he had 4. As long as we don't have a design for adult Goten with the same haircut, we can't really tell.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on June 30, 2016, 05:18:55 pm
Might be because the head has less space to draw, but its interesting to see they had images showing it off in super.  It also said that the mouth was closer to the nose like in chichi design. If those things were part of the notes that would be more attention to on model detail than I knew they had.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on July 03, 2016, 05:50:12 pm
HAH Future Mai wasn't dead. Good going, Future Trunks, you moron !
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 03, 2016, 06:40:03 pm
This and...
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Can't wait for the Ep. 51 that will focused in the Trunks and Mai. :)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on July 03, 2016, 07:02:59 pm
Dat new ending.
It's definitely an interesting choice for this serious arc and urggggg

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on July 04, 2016, 02:04:22 am
HAH Future Mai wasn't dead. Good going, Future Trunks, you moron !

He's not a doctor
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on July 04, 2016, 02:26:01 am
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Post by: R565 on July 04, 2016, 02:47:22 am
Dat new ending.
It's definitely an interesting choice for this serious arc and urggggg

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I don't know but man am I loving the new DBS episodes!
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Post by: Bastard Mami on July 04, 2016, 02:54:47 am
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this is not the sfv topic >:(

whiz said he needs a rest, so consecutive 3 minutes are not possible.

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Post by: Niitris on July 04, 2016, 09:24:22 am
-Can we not go 1 arc without Beerus & Whis? They're starting to grate on me.

Well considering they're now the standard for Goku to level up towards, safe to say they aren't going away anytime soon.

Connection?
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 05, 2016, 01:57:34 am
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So i'm not the only one that i noticed that.
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Post by: lui on July 05, 2016, 02:11:04 am
i doubt it, there are alot of people who hold their chests when they're hurt :p
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Post by: Byakko on July 05, 2016, 09:24:00 am
Especially since Goku kept kicking him in the dick heart.
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Post by: Omega on July 06, 2016, 08:59:14 am
I wonder if that Black Goku posessed Future Goku's death body in the afterlife.
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Post by: Iced on July 10, 2016, 03:20:50 am
This episode was extremely lewd
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Post by: Bea on July 10, 2016, 03:24:22 am
It had holding hands action. It was really lewd.
Oh, and Trunks being a pedo. :P
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Post by: lui on July 10, 2016, 03:52:48 am
dont spoil the lewd level guys! i need to keep my lewd level on the downlow so i can be surprised :P
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 10, 2016, 04:48:13 am
So i suggest you guys if you don't watch the episode yet, don't click in the spoiler.
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Post by: Byakko on July 10, 2016, 12:58:55 pm
- This intrigued me... That "energy orb or something" stopped Black to kill Future Trunks.
? It's a flash grenade that Mai just fired. Black says that and we see her with her protective goggles pulling back her gun after firing it.
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Post by: Iced on July 10, 2016, 01:02:46 pm
solar flare grenade, Mr satan is viable again!!!
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Post by: Byakko on July 10, 2016, 01:05:18 pm
Also, glad to see Future Gohan again but it looks like it'll be nothing more than a flashback. He's not coming back :'(
But we'll get to universe 10, if Black's strange ki comes from there, it does show that things work differently from this one, and power levels from universe 7 won't matter.
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Post by: 1Ultima on July 10, 2016, 03:34:33 pm
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Post by: Iced on July 10, 2016, 05:42:35 pm
the preview is something else
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Post by: lui on July 10, 2016, 09:29:30 pm
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Post by: ShinZankuro on July 10, 2016, 09:47:29 pm
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 11, 2016, 03:44:23 am
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Post by: Byakko on July 11, 2016, 09:05:24 am
I thought that was really fucking weird. I don't know if it was just to make him bad just because he's from the future, or if they're actually going with some god vs humanity thing, but that's fucking horrible for Dragon Ball.
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Post by: lui on July 11, 2016, 09:09:15 am
It sounded bad for me too. Basically hes racist, i dont like it.
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Post by: Iced on July 11, 2016, 02:54:49 pm
Lets build a wall to the afterworld.
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 12, 2016, 12:52:25 am
Black is really such a crazy one. Can't wait for Zamasu.
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Post by: -Red- on July 12, 2016, 01:00:48 am
It sounded bad for me too. Basically hes racist, i dont like it.

He can't be racist because he's black  :yaoming:
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Post by: Iced on July 12, 2016, 01:07:59 am
Was the term he used Human as in earthling, or mortal ?
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Post by: Byakko on July 12, 2016, 01:16:15 am
As in people, I think it was. He did destroy several planets already, apparently.
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Post by: Niitris on July 12, 2016, 01:21:31 am
Likely earthling. He mentioned that they were the one creation of gods that were a failure and should be exterminated.

I didn't see the big deal personally, sounded like the typical fictional racism. Maybe it was the wording, idk.
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Post by: Byakko on July 12, 2016, 01:24:01 am
"ningen", people. Again, he's busting planets left and right. He's not limiting himself to Earth.
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Post by: Iced on July 12, 2016, 01:27:55 am
So its more like "anything that isnt in the higher firmament"

(http://i.imgur.com/jx6p4Bl.jpg)
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Post by: lui on July 12, 2016, 01:47:42 am
Likely earthling. He mentioned that they were the one creation of gods that were a failure and should be exterminated.

I didn't see the big deal personally, sounded like the typical fictional racism. Maybe it was the wording, idk.

It is generic alien overlord racism and thats what i dont like. Its overused, shallow and just boring. It makes black goku look less interesting as a result
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Post by: Long John Killer on July 12, 2016, 02:05:16 am
Well...it is the usual evil copypaste of the ultimate good guy of the series.  We already had Turles before, wasn't expecting much different than that.
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Post by: Bastard Wolf on July 12, 2016, 02:59:36 am
how would it feel to be cuckolded by your future self?

also, i want future trunks to meet android 18 as a loving and caring mother/wife.

>expecting anything original from dragon ball... in 2016
[avatar]http://i.imgur.com/Eu330vk.png[/avatar]
you must be new

and i'm probabbly the only one who imagines the doctor pointing and laughing everytime whiz and beerus talk about their dipleasure with time traveling
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on July 12, 2016, 03:52:54 am
hey man theres nothing wrong with being optimistic about dragonball nowadays!....right....RIGHT? :(
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Post by: Lichtbringer on July 29, 2016, 01:29:51 am
There is a New Artbook on the Japanese Amazon that contains some DB Super Artwork, and it seems to spoil something about Black.

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If the amazonpage gets removed or if I fucked up the link or something, here the Sample Image from the Amazon Page.
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on July 31, 2016, 06:42:18 pm
also, i want future trunks to meet android 18 as a loving and caring mother/wife.

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Post by: Koop on July 31, 2016, 07:39:00 pm
Wow it looks like:

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Post by: Bastard Mami on August 01, 2016, 01:39:29 am
yeah, it's nice that I did not see it being that obvious, yet it's just about adding 2+2 , black is a lot like zamasu , black comes from the future; by coming from the future it measn that black does not yet exist, but now thanks to goku's intervention (because weird dragon ball time causality, nvm that) black is now a thing that will exist.
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Post by: Byakko on August 01, 2016, 01:42:24 am
Except it's the future of a different timeline, one where Goku has been dead for a long time, and it's unlikely that future Zamasu met him - even if future Zamasu got there on his own without Goku, we still don't have an explanation for Black looking like Goku. Unless, again, something happened in future Hell.
At any rate, now we're going deep in the rankings of those in charge of the universe, more Kaiohs and Kaiohshins are getting involved.
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on August 01, 2016, 01:46:39 am
Wow it looks like:

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Post by: Byakko on August 01, 2016, 01:50:19 am
Thanks for pointing out what the anime makes extremely obvious, Sherlock.
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Post by: Iced on August 01, 2016, 02:05:00 am
The subbers translating mortal as human is killing me.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on August 01, 2016, 05:55:03 am
The subbers translating mortal as human is killing me.

I hear ningen most of the time.

Except it's the future of a different timeline, one where Goku has been dead for a long time, and it's unlikely that future Zamasu met him - even if future Zamasu got there on his own without Goku, we still don't have an explanation for Black looking like Goku. Unless, again, something happened in future Hell.

by how timelines work in dragon ball (however toriyama wants them to), that's hardly relevant.

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Post by: -Red- on August 01, 2016, 06:58:33 am
Yeah, they ARE talking about humans. Which makes everything even more weird because then that means they're only in charge of watching over the humans for whatever reason.

What about the rest of the universe and its planets? I don't recall DBZ ever having a kaioshin for each planet or race. I thought they were supposed to take care of a universe's section on their own (With 4 Kaiohshins taking care of 1/4 of the universe each, and even taking care of other "Worlds" too).

All this focus in taking care of the humans is weird.
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Post by: Koop on August 01, 2016, 09:30:56 am
Except it's the future of a different timeline, one where Goku has been dead for a long time, and it's unlikely that future Zamasu met him

That's what the Time Rings are for. :P
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Post by: Iced on August 01, 2016, 09:50:38 am
Humans in dragonball had its own specific name in the past.
Ningen in this context is people or humanoid.
Hence why Black was destroying planets before arriving to earth. Ningen here is just mortals, he even calls Goku a Ningen after being told he's a sayan.
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Post by: Omega on August 01, 2016, 11:25:29 am
Except it's the future of a different timeline, one where Goku has been dead for a long time, and it's unlikely that future Zamasu met him - even if future Zamasu got there on his own without Goku, we still don't have an explanation for Black looking like Goku. Unless, again, something happened in future Hell.
At any rate, now we're going deep in the rankings of those in charge of the universe, more Kaiohs and Kaiohshins are getting involved.

That possibilitiy excist but, we don't know how small or big this chance is. If that is the case, it might be explained with flashbacks. At the other hand it is Goku. He should be in heaven and not hell. Unless, he went to hell to stop him like he did with Pikkon against Frieza and Cell. It is getting very Great.
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Post by: Byakko on August 01, 2016, 11:41:53 am
It's not Heaven, it's just the "other world". And yes, I said Hell because it was simpler and more understandable, but that's what I meant.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on August 01, 2016, 04:50:23 pm
and now I am expecting that they will pull a piccolo again and black is the half of zamasu's soul that hates humans relased after zamasu purifies himself for his new job.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on August 01, 2016, 04:56:54 pm
All that made me expect Gowasu to be the black.
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on August 02, 2016, 01:40:38 am
Thanks for pointing out what the anime makes extremely obvious, Sherlock.

Nah. ;P

and black is the half of zamasu's soul that hates humans relased after zamasu purifies himself for his new job.

It's a valid possibility. But anyway...
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Post by: Niitris on August 02, 2016, 04:36:48 am
All that made me expect Gowasu to be the black.

There's gotta be something to it, Black has what's likely his green portra earring.

Really been enjoying this arc so far, with the whole mystery around Black's identity. Character development isn't exactly something Dragonball's known for, it's got me more interested in that than the fighting.

Also, 18 is hottest and Trunks knows it. (https://twitter.com/KogashiwaKai/status/759799428290977793)
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Post by: Niitris on August 02, 2016, 02:17:12 pm
Pardon the double post.



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Post by: Omega on August 03, 2016, 10:16:32 pm
Dragonball Heroes is Excellent. Too bad it's in Japan only.
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Post by: Byakko on August 07, 2016, 11:58:48 pm
Wow, interesting infodump in the first phase of this episode. Time rings, parallel timeline time rings, earring color, maybe why Black has only one earring...
Also "ningen" clearly is definitely not just the people of Earth. Or even actual human-like aliens (like Saiyans). As long as it's generally humanoid and smart enough to maybe create a society and a civilization. Just... people. That said, given Zamasu's reaction to the muscle bird people, I wonder how he'd react to legit Saiyans and Freeza's race. It's still a boring and overdone theme though, and it baffles me that you can still write a story with a world where complete god newbies aren't immediately told about this shit.

... Resurrection of F, Future Trunks edition ? What ? What could they change ?
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Post by: -Red- on August 08, 2016, 12:27:12 am
Dat Vegeta face

(http://i.imgur.com/2Y1qIM5.png)
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Post by: Niitris on August 08, 2016, 01:08:05 am
That episode was cool.

Trunks using Super Sayian Grade 3 to fool Vegeta was pretty clever, course it didn't work tho.
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Post by: Long John Killer on August 08, 2016, 01:38:58 am
So I've fallen significantly behind, the last episode I saw was Goku dying his hair blue for Frieza, but I've been told about this latest episode featuring Vegeta and Trunks having a little fight.



And I'm starting to get a little suspicious about where they're getting their ideas from (http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-568.html#h_read).  Not the first coincidence, what with the whole multiverse thing, but still a little funny that they're using things fans already did quite a while ago.
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Post by: -Red- on August 08, 2016, 02:01:16 am
Yeah I've read that part long ago but it's not the same thing, at all.

If anything, the Multiverse's tactic is actually more original and interesting (Although still fails anyway) than the one in Super. In Multiverse he enhances certain parts of his body to avoid losing overall speed while still keeping the extra strength, he's still powered up though.

In super he's just using that form as a bait and then switches back to the standard SSJ. Also multiverses is not an original concept at all to begin with since we already had alternative timelines thanks to Trunks anyway. Not the first nor the last time that theme is going to be used in fanfics.
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Post by: Omega on August 15, 2016, 03:03:11 pm
New Episode was not released yesterday. It will appear this Sunday as they took a break.
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Post by: senorfro on August 16, 2016, 09:19:13 am
Now that I think about it, I wonder f Bura will show up soon.  Or, if Toriyama will retcon her out/forget about her.
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Post by: Koop on August 16, 2016, 08:11:50 pm
speaking of retcons, the ridiculous Kaio Ken Super Saiyan Blue isn't in the manga version of Super.
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Post by: Lichtbringer on August 16, 2016, 09:52:24 pm
Now that I think about it, I wonder f Bura will show up soon.  Or, if Toriyama will retcon her out/forget about her.

Bulla is one year younger than Pan Z, I'm not sure how much time has past in Super right now but I belief they can still add here at a later point of the series.
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Post by: S.D. on August 17, 2016, 12:39:44 am
speaking of retcons, the ridiculous Kaio Ken Super Saiyan Blue isn't in the manga version of Super.
I'm sure DKDC commented about it a while ago, that's not even the latest chapter.
The manga just moved on to the Goku Black arc, the chapter had some small differences from the anime but nothing as big as Goku not doing that Kaioh Ken + SSB combination (Apparently he used Kaiohken + SSJ before against Paikuhan? I don't even remember that episode)
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Post by: Byakko on August 17, 2016, 01:04:12 am
Yeah http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2261193 It's not so much a retcon as it's another anime filler since there's no indication that the anime is "truer" to Toriyama's script than Toyotaro, and they basically get that script at the same time. Toriyama's script probably just went like "they fight and Goku keeps powering up through his existing forms then he breaks through the time stop".
The Super Kaiohken was in the otherworld tournament during the Goku/Paikuhan final. The anime reusing it was definitely a call back to their own shit, and an opportunity for more filler.
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Post by: Omega on August 20, 2016, 02:54:48 pm
What do you guys think about this theory?

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Post by: senorfro on August 21, 2016, 06:52:41 pm
Just watched the new episode

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Post by: Mark85 on August 21, 2016, 07:25:36 pm
This episode supports theory that Zamasu becoming Black seriously I believe that darkness in his heart caused Zamasu's ki to get darker and leading him to becoming Black. There's also possibility Zamasu becoming a Makaioshin due to darkness in his heart tho and Super Saiyan Rose looks pretty badass(Well it looks better than Blue)
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Post by: Iced on August 21, 2016, 07:41:06 pm
Rosé is not a colour.
It seems like a reference to the alcoholic drink.
You know, like Beerus and Whis.
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Post by: Byakko on August 21, 2016, 07:46:16 pm
Rosé is not a color but rose is, it's French for pink. The rosé wine is called like that because of the color. It's a good meeting point for the new naming conventions of both colors for SSJ and alcohol for Champa, Beerus etc.
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Post by: Omega on August 23, 2016, 10:41:39 am
The SSJGod form we call SSJ Blue isn't actually blue. It is just SSJ God with the power of a SSJ. I can't call it a natural transformation. The color seems more to be a side effect when both are mixed. I know that power levels don't matter in Dragonball Super but, aren't actual transformations and color changes still accurate or should we scrap that too?

As for Super Saiyan Rose, that color might be an effect as Black mixes it with the powers (purple aura) of the Supreme Kai's.
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Post by: Cybaster on August 23, 2016, 11:26:49 am
So, in a black and white manga, how are they going to differentiate SSJ, SSJ Blue, SSJ Rose, SSJ Over the Rainbow, etc. ? ::)
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Post by: Koop on August 23, 2016, 02:55:38 pm
Every time someone powers up, the opponent/one of the people watching the fight always says the appropriate colour out loud.
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Post by: Niitris on August 23, 2016, 03:16:12 pm
Suupa Saiyajin Waiito!
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Post by: Bastard Wolf on August 27, 2016, 05:19:49 am
What do you guys think about this theory?
as relevant as that one theory about casper being the ghost of richie rich or something like that

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Post by: S.D. on August 27, 2016, 07:21:27 am
And that important plot point is actually brought up in the manga's latest chapter when Trunks tells the gang how the fight against Dabura went.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on August 27, 2016, 05:41:58 pm
I wonder if I should be dual-media this thing, but then the manga gets ahead real fast which makes the anime less enoyable.
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Post by: Byakko on August 27, 2016, 05:52:51 pm
Honestly the manga is better, if I had to follow only one, I'd drop the anime. Even if it keeps having a two month lead over the manga. The stuff that's weird in the anime makes so much more sense in the manga.
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Post by: Iced on August 28, 2016, 12:49:06 am
The manga however jumps out most of the SOL stuff and even most of the conclusions. Its like it goes "AND ETC" at the end of whatever it presents.


"so beerus shows up and wants to fight a god, ETC ETC, and now goku is being trained , etc and now goku is blue, etc, gold freeza, etc black goku!"
Ive been finding the anime much more enjoyable as far as SOL goes , but it would be nicer if they used the same logic behind the scenes in the manga, several of them end up adding a lot more context.
For instance, Trunks ssj2 is almost as strong as Goku ssj3 in the manga. In the anime Goku blows him away, in the manga goku gets frustated and goes into God form to blow Trunks away.
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Post by: Byakko on August 28, 2016, 01:14:32 am
Well it did that for the movies, it's understandable that Toyotaro didn't want to waste time with those :P He did the whole tournament straight, as well as the meetings with Champa. Although he again didn't show much of the Super Dragon... Yeah, he tends to gloss over the stuff where he can't show off either fighting or comedy. But on the other hand, the anime goes to the opposite extreme, and Toyotaro does manage to slip the more important information in the dialog in the middle of his fights. Or random SOL comedy in the middle of important story development (out of nowhere, Karin playing Twister - for just a couple of panels, sure, but I don't like it when it drags for several chapters, especially since this is monthly)
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Post by: Niitris on August 28, 2016, 02:17:02 am
Accelerated pace works nicely for the manga given the monthly chapters, I was wondering why everything seemed like it was in fast forward at first (just started btw). It being more informative despite that, I can't help but to think a bit less of the anime now. Handles comedy rather fine, but it could do a bit more with the major scenarios.
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Post by: Iced on August 28, 2016, 03:16:47 am

When he starts jumping stuff like the dragon it becomes useless to follow, you would never get whatever happened and what was wished for and how the whole altercation ended from reading the manga alone. Its almost a complimentary material that gives you some extras. A director cut of sorts.

Just saw the new episode.

Who the fuck is Black.

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Post by: Mark85 on August 28, 2016, 01:35:46 pm
Ok so watched the new episode
SSR is awesome.

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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on August 28, 2016, 04:26:44 pm
Holy shit, the end of the Episode 56 tho!! :D
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Post by: 1Ultima on August 28, 2016, 06:00:30 pm
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Post by: Byakko on August 28, 2016, 06:31:45 pm
Okay, now the whole time travel is definitely broken. Why does this Zamasu remember his promise to Goku ? If this is the Zamasu that Goku met in the main timeline, why the fuck is he here in this future timeline ? Did he use the duplicate time ring that was created when Trunks caused the split ? But why the fuck would he do that to go to a timeline where Goku is dead. Is it because there's no more Kaiohshin or Hakaishin there to stop him ? Like, this is the only universe and the only timeline where he knew he wouldn't get his ass handed to him the minute he would start destroying human worlds ? What a tiny little bitch.

Also, I totally agree about Vegeta. I mean, it makes sense considering his style (he goes all out from the start, so his opponent has to either die immediately or surpass him immediately, while Goku takes his time to see who will be the last to surpass the other), but it's just as annoying as it was ever since Cell.
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Post by: Niitris on August 28, 2016, 06:58:42 pm
I like how SSJB was just downed in no time. As if all that work to get there was just child's play, power levels.
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Post by: Koop on August 28, 2016, 07:35:21 pm
well it was beaten by a little space pea shooter during its debut

I also agree about Vegeta. Why is the gap between him and Goku still so large?
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Post by: Loupil on August 28, 2016, 09:26:04 pm
Maybe this Zamasu is the one from the main timeline if Trunks hadn't shown up to warn Goku & co. about Black ! (Maybe Black is Future Trunks' timeline's Zamasu)

Oh man... time travelling gives me headaches :(
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Post by: Thagr8test on August 29, 2016, 04:29:42 am
I was hoping they finally would change the old routine of vegeta either dominating or being dominated in all of his fights but I see that going to be a main stay with the series until the end.
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Post by: Iced on August 29, 2016, 12:57:44 pm
Im kinda expecting Zamasu to show up in the present looking for Goku(after killing gowasu). Find out he just left in a time machine, get all high and mighty about it
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Post by: Niitris on August 29, 2016, 01:16:55 pm
Goten wants revenge for not having enough screentime.

I'm gonna guess Present Zamasu went to the future and learned that Future him (and Gowasu) somehow died there, probably to the hands of a human. Then finds out that Uni7 no longer had a Kaioshin (for the same reason) and somehow took the position for himself. Was able to revive Chest-pain Goku and anoint him as God of Destruction. And are now reshaping Uni7 to fit his image, which includes eradicating the humans. And altering his future.

What I'm interested in finding out is if other Kaioshin also died in the future. And if Universe 6 plays a role in this. If it's parallel universe lost it's overlords, surely it wouldn't go unnoticed right?
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Post by: Neocide on August 29, 2016, 06:04:10 pm
I didn't see vegeta weaker than Goku imo. Goku got his ass kicked too. And it looked like Vegeta got caught off guard by the stabbing.

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Post by: Cybaster on August 29, 2016, 06:23:58 pm
Well, DBZ never made much sense with time travelling anyway, with the Cell/Cyborgs stuff, creating alternate timelines, etc. Zamasu remembering Goku doesn't shock me more than that at this point.

Anyway, Goku will get his ass kicked in episode 57 and 58, then will call for Zen-chan's help with his new toy in episode 59.
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Post by: Byakko on August 29, 2016, 06:30:17 pm
And it looked like Vegeta got caught off guard by the stabbing.
Problem is it's always the same. And it wasn't so much caught off guard as he wasn't having any success anyway, Black got hit but he didn't give a shit. It's no better than vs Cell, and Vegeta is still the only one who doesn't know he's about to get whooped.

Well, DBZ never made much sense with time travelling anyway, with the Cell/Cyborgs stuff, creating alternate timelines, etc.
There was only the one thing about the timeline split until then, all the timelines were still a straight line, with just Trunks jumping from one to the other. Now we're having a Zamasu from a different timeline remember something that happened in the main timeline, and the grandfather paradox of Goku meeting Zamasu, causing him to go mad at humans, causing the creation of Black, causing Trunks to go back in time, causing Goku to want to meet Zamasu in the first place, implying that none of this would have happened if Goku hadn't met Zamasu - there's no starting point in this loop. This didn't happen before - even when Cell came back after killing Trunks, Trunks still ended in his own timeline killing his own Cell, there's a clear starting point and end point.

This is all extremely basic concepts in time travelling shows BTW.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Neocide on August 29, 2016, 07:11:10 pm
That's true(Vegeta never realizing he's over his head) but I think the gap between goku and vegeta is tiny, goku just seems like the smarter fighter than vegeta.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: yaminogun on August 30, 2016, 10:34:27 am
(http://i.imgur.com/pIYPEwB.png) hype
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on August 30, 2016, 07:27:50 pm
This is all extremely basic concepts in time travelling shows BTW.

it could "just" be zamasu from the amin timeline traveling to trunks timeline for whatever reason and the nrmal level of brokeness would be kept; maybe the zamasu form this timeline is th eone who is using goku's body, since the dialgos hinted a lto as blacku being someone else in goku's body and thus mastering it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on August 30, 2016, 07:34:10 pm
Great, two zamasus from different timelines. He can now fuck himself.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: walt on August 30, 2016, 08:56:52 pm
Well, DBZ never made much sense with time travelling anyway, with the Cell/Cyborgs stuff, creating alternate timelines, etc.
There was only the one thing about the timeline split until then, all the timelines were still a straight line, with just Trunks jumping from one to the other. Now we're having a Zamasu from a different timeline remember something that happened in the main timeline, and the grandfather paradox of Goku meeting Zamasu, causing him to go mad at humans, causing the creation of Black, causing Trunks to go back in time, causing Goku to want to meet Zamasu in the first place, implying that none of this would have happened if Goku hadn't met Zamasu - there's no starting point in this loop. This didn't happen before - even when Cell came back after killing Trunks, Trunks still ended in his own timeline killing his own Cell, there's a clear starting point and end point.

This is all extremely basic concepts in time travelling shows BTW.
These are excellent proofs as to why the writing is so deficient, and why I plan on never watching this, not even out of nostalgia. Toriyama just doesn't care.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: rgveda99 on August 31, 2016, 01:35:06 am
Well, DBZ never made much sense with time travelling anyway, with the Cell/Cyborgs stuff, creating alternate timelines, etc.
There was only the one thing about the timeline split until then, all the timelines were still a straight line, with just Trunks jumping from one to the other. Now we're having a Zamasu from a different timeline remember something that happened in the main timeline, and the grandfather paradox of Goku meeting Zamasu, causing him to go mad at humans, causing the creation of Black, causing Trunks to go back in time, causing Goku to want to meet Zamasu in the first place, implying that none of this would have happened if Goku hadn't met Zamasu - there's no starting point in this loop. This didn't happen before - even when Cell came back after killing Trunks, Trunks still ended in his own timeline killing his own Cell, there's a clear starting point and end point.

This is all extremely basic concepts in time travelling shows BTW.
These are excellent proofs as to why the writing is so deficient, and why I plan on never watching this, not even out of nostalgia. Toriyama just doesn't care.

The whole thing will most likely end up with Super Saiyan God Goku fusing with Super Saiyan God Vegeta to become Super Saiyan God Gogeta/Vegito :ssj: with them winning but obviously wouldn't last long. Then Goku does a Spirit Bomb but this time on a omniversal scale.  :juggle2: :juggle2: :juggle2: :juggle2:

It's not that bad really. So far it offers fresh new characters.  Plus I've read Chris Claremont's not so spectacular and underwhelming rushed Exiles series.  :snore:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bea on August 31, 2016, 01:50:50 am
So far, the only good thing about this for me has been Future Mai. :P
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Saint on August 31, 2016, 05:27:03 pm
 the original evil Goku
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonballaffanon/images/a/a9/Turles.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110501175903)

Black Goku would probably beat him in a fight tho
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cazaki on August 31, 2016, 06:27:18 pm
Well, DBZ never made much sense with time travelling anyway, with the Cell/Cyborgs stuff, creating alternate timelines, etc.
There was only the one thing about the timeline split until then, all the timelines were still a straight line, with just Trunks jumping from one to the other. Now we're having a Zamasu from a different timeline remember something that happened in the main timeline, and the grandfather paradox of Goku meeting Zamasu, causing him to go mad at humans, causing the creation of Black, causing Trunks to go back in time, causing Goku to want to meet Zamasu in the first place, implying that none of this would have happened if Goku hadn't met Zamasu - there's no starting point in this loop. This didn't happen before - even when Cell came back after killing Trunks, Trunks still ended in his own timeline killing his own Cell, there's a clear starting point and end point.

This is all extremely basic concepts in time travelling shows BTW.
These are excellent proofs as to why the writing is so deficient, and why I plan on never watching this, not even out of nostalgia. Toriyama just doesn't care.

You're being over dramatic and cynical. The show isn't the best but it's not terrible. If you're a fan of dragonball then it's worth watching. Toriyama hasn't been a good writer since Cell saga so none of this is surprising. You just gotta take it week by week.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: walt on August 31, 2016, 06:33:21 pm
Do I really gotta? I think I may have given up halfway through Buu.

Just watched the movies out of nostalgia, and those were mediocre at best.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on August 31, 2016, 06:50:25 pm
I loved Saint Seiya when I was a kid and I bought the SS game Namco Bandai released last year and had a blast with it. It was pretty much me partially reviving my childhood due to NB hiring the LatAm voice actors for the game.

Even with all of that in mind I tried to watch Soul of Gold this year and dropped it pretty much after episode 5. I couldn't bear with how boring the series truly was. [E] was spot on with SS, it's just about people aiming their fists at each other with pretty lights coming out, there isn't that much in terms of people outplaying each other with smart tactics because as "unique" as each one's skill set was, everything still pretty much boils down to who can take the most attacks or a third party coming out of nowhere to save the day.

Dragon Ball has the same issue due to all the characters having pretty much the same skill setup. They all fly, they all shoot ki blasts and have a technique that's their equivalent to the Kame-Hame-Ha. They tried to make things interesting with the last tournament but it was pretty underwhelming overall, which Hit being the one who changed things the most due to pretty much being a JoJo character, a series where people actually have specific weaknesses and limits for their own skills and outplaying the enemy with smart tactics and deception is the norm.

I still enjoy DBS (Although I skipped both movie arcs) and I actually like the clusterfuck they're doing with time travelling because they're at least getting out of the comfort zone but I totally understand when people drop the series after having watched DBZ so long ago. It's basically the same thing I did with SS.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on August 31, 2016, 07:29:30 pm
The main draw of Super is the huge widening of the world. We got a definite difference between regular ki and god ki, people able to reach it, a god of destruction tied to the kaiohshins, multiple universes, a king of all universes, multiple timelines that suddenly become very relevant (thereby making Future Trunks, an old fan favorite, relevant) - that's several levels of world building stacked up all at once. edit - oh, and even more importantly, they all actually matter. They're the core of the story, they're not an excuse for Cell to set up a tournament, the tournament is the setup to the things that matter.
The one bad thing here is that there's so much new stuff that we're told we'll see soon, and it takes so long to get there. Hell, the multiple universe thing got interrupted by the king of all universes, the king got interrupted by an alternate timeline, the alternate timeline got interrupted by the god of another universe, and we have no idea where we're at right now. With so much material and leads, we can be pretty sure that this will go on for a long time - even only to resolve everything that has been hinted at so far, and even everything else that will have come out of that. It's like having hints at Saiyans, Cell, Kaiohshin, and the fusion, all the way back during Roshi training little Goku and Krillin.

... And supposedly, power level ladder is supposed to take a step back, in favor of different natures of powers (god ki, time stop...), but that's not working all that great so far.

tl;dr watch it or don't right now, but be sure to give it a look in a couple years or five.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: S.D. on September 01, 2016, 12:24:27 pm
Even with all of that in mind I tried to watch Soul of Gold this year and dropped it pretty much after episode 5. I couldn't bear with how boring the series truly was.
Did you watch Omega? Because Soul of Gold was overly hyped and disappointing, but at least it was short.
Omega on the other hand...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 01, 2016, 06:46:28 pm
dunno, I think dropping SoG after episode 5 was a good call, because if the reason was because it was boring, it got even more boring in the second half once the gold saints stopped being drunk and the series fell into generic bullshit (my favorite part of SoG was how at least one gold saint per episode would be drunk ).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on September 03, 2016, 07:53:35 pm
the original evil Goku
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonballaffanon/images/a/a9/Turles.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110501175903)

Black Goku would probably beat him in a fight tho

Turles is like an Evil Goku from an alter dimension.

About Goku Black. I will laugh if Goku Black is only a doll or illusion.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on September 04, 2016, 07:38:58 pm
This week's ep was pretty good.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Neocide on September 04, 2016, 07:47:08 pm
Really good. I'm really confused though, also lol trunks is a signature move swiss army knife.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on September 04, 2016, 08:36:49 pm
Wow, I wasn't even close. Great episode.

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 04, 2016, 10:48:54 pm
Yep, it's the best fighting sequence of DB Super so far for me. Really a great episode.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on September 04, 2016, 11:00:36 pm
Everytime I see Black Goku with that energy knife reminds me of PSYLOCKE! LMAO
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 04, 2016, 11:02:20 pm
Also...
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on September 04, 2016, 11:02:41 pm
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on September 05, 2016, 03:05:14 pm
The main draw of Super is the huge widening of the world. We got a definite difference between regular ki and god ki, people able to reach it, a god of destruction tied to the kaiohshins, multiple universes, a king of all universes, multiple timelines that suddenly become very relevant (thereby making Future Trunks, an old fan favorite, relevant) - that's several levels of world building stacked up all at once. edit - oh, and even more importantly, they all actually matter. They're the core of the story, they're not an excuse for Cell to set up a tournament, the tournament is the setup to the things that matter.
The one bad thing here is that there's so much new stuff that we're told we'll see soon, and it takes so long to get there. Hell, the multiple universe thing got interrupted by the king of all universes, the king got interrupted by an alternate timeline, the alternate timeline got interrupted by the god of another universe, and we have no idea where we're at right now. With so much material and leads, we can be pretty sure that this will go on for a long time - even only to resolve everything that has been hinted at so far, and even everything else that will have come out of that. It's like having hints at Saiyans, Cell, Kaiohshin, and the fusion, all the way back during Roshi training little Goku and Krillin.

... And supposedly, power level ladder is supposed to take a step back, in favor of different natures of powers (god ki, time stop...), but that's not working all that great so far.
 
This.

The show always had a ton of subtext towards mythology that was never fully explained or explored.

Toryama has never been a great story teller, he's a gag manga artist and most of his resolutions and advances show a lot of that.
This brings good things and bad things, the good is that where he goes is always something somewhat unexpected. Who wouldve guessed that a multiverse tournament with the gods was in store during the Boo saga?
The bad is that he doesnt obey narrative rules. So he will have Piccolo give a bunch of clues that he's not to be underestimated and create a buildup where something for sure would happen wiht other writers, and then do nothing with it. Shit I was expecting Piccolo to defeat Frost and then be defeated massively by Hit.

The buildup and story cues he gives off are not really being used, at this point
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on September 05, 2016, 07:33:19 pm
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 05, 2016, 08:19:45 pm
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can't argue against the tear gas, regarding the other thign they only want to kill humanity, not animals etc... much less destroy the world. they'd still need a voe that can target all humans, tho I think buu's targeted al living beings.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on September 06, 2016, 12:49:54 am
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mark85 on September 11, 2016, 08:04:07 pm
This episode was just explanation but I guess I figured how this time travel thing works                                     

I'm pretty sure current Zamasu wished for immortality kills Gowasu.Beerus destroys him.He regenerates and then goes to future wishes Black and sends him to alternate future giving a reason to Trunks to go back to past in first place and they repair time machine,Goku,Vegeta,Trunks goes to future again.Zamasu appears(Current) and they got their ass kicked by Black and Future Zamasu just goes to past.Acting like he doesn't know anything.That's the best explanation I could came up to this mess


Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Saint on September 11, 2016, 08:20:28 pm
the original evil Goku
(http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonballaffanon/images/a/a9/Turles.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110501175903)

Black Goku would probably beat him in a fight tho

Turles is like an Evil Goku from an alter dimension.

About Goku Black. I will laugh if Goku Black is only a doll or illusion.

yea i agree there is really no depth in goku black
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on September 11, 2016, 08:53:51 pm
This episode was just explanation but I guess I figured how this time travel thing works                                     

I'm pretty sure current Zamasu wished for immortality kills Gowasu.Beerus destroys him.He regenerates and then goes to future wishes Black and sends him to alternate future giving a reason to Trunks to go back to past in first place and they repair time machine,Goku,Vegeta,Trunks goes to future again.Zamasu appears(Current) and they got their ass kicked by Black and Future Zamasu just goes to past.Acting like he doesn't know anything.That's the best explanation I could came up to this mess

Except the trigger for all of these events is Goku paying Zamasu a visit BECAUSE of Black Goku. Which means there's no starting point for the loop.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Just No Point on September 11, 2016, 08:55:50 pm
I have yet to start watching but could a potential solution to the loop be a third urevealed timeline?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 11, 2016, 11:18:17 pm
It doesn't seem so, because they made it even more complicated by having Zamasu create a Goku clone. Wherever the very first Black came from, it had to be from a place where Zamasu met Goku AND lost to him. So if there's another timeline, it would be one where Goku came across Zamasu on his own - and wanted to fight Zamasu. Even if it's from, say, a timeline where the multiverse tournament went on and Zamasu witnessed Goku's fight, Zamasu would have had to fight Goku - and it's unlikely he participated in the tournament. There's no non-convoluted way for Zamasu to lose against Goku in such a timeline. It's possible that Zamasu would have gone just as crazy by witnessing the tournament, but future Zamasu seems to specificallybe mad at *losing* to Goku.
We still don't know why the hell he'd end up in Trunks' timeline, beside using the ring that was created from it, but there isn't even any reason for him to do that. Unless, as I said before, he searched for a timeline and universe with no Kaiohshin and no hakaishin, but that would make him an insanely lame loser. Too bad it's the most likely solution so far, seeing the importance the manga gave to that fact.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 12, 2016, 01:59:07 am
I gave up on the timeline shenanigans since they just got worse so instead I am thinking how zaamsu's immortality works since his mortality is supossedly linked to the god of destruction, like, can't goku adn friends just kill zamasu's universe god of destruction so zamasu dies, or the god of destruction has now become immortal as well .. and that's assuming zamasu becomes a kaishin after killing gowasu, which might as well not... whivh would amke the revelation of the life link pointless if it's not used for anything... but this is toriyama so that might as well happen... and now that I think bout it, did not buu kill kaioshin, effectively killing beerus before ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Neocide on September 12, 2016, 02:21:40 am
Buu never killed the east kaioushin he killed west and absorbed the others.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on September 12, 2016, 11:51:04 am
I gave up on the timeline shenanigans since they just got worse so instead I am thinking how zaamsu's immortality works since his mortality is supossedly linked to the god of destruction, like, can't goku adn friends just kill zamasu's universe god of destruction so zamasu dies, or the god of destruction has now become immortal as well .. and that's assuming zamasu becomes a kaishin after killing gowasu, which might as well not... whivh would amke the revelation of the life link pointless if it's not used for anything... but this is toriyama so that might as well happen... and now that I think bout it, did not buu kill kaioshin, effectively killing beerus before ?

Hakaishins are related ot the ruling Kaioshins. Which are a group of four cardinals and one Dai.

Buu absorbed Dai(caped, fat) and south(I think? it was the big muscly one) forming the fat buu and muscle buu personalities.

The current Kaioshin was the youngest of that group and was promoted to Dai. Kibito seems to be a random kai promoted to assistant.

Kais are born from fruits and seem to just lazy around their origin planet until one gets promoted to godhood( which might not even happen).
Zamasu is a new Kaioshin in training with Gowasu being one of the official kaioshins of his planet ( possibly the dai of the planet)

Hakaishins seem to die once all the ruling kaioshins of their planet are wiped out.
Future Zamasu probably promoted himself to kaioshin ( he is wearing the earrings) and picked Black as his Destruction God.

The only thing we know is that Black IS NOT a wish to the dragonballs, because its the mistery of the arc and it wouldnt be gussed by a character 3 episodes before the big reveal episode called "who is Black"


More interestingly, Whis did not wake Beerus during the Buu mass destruction on the buu saga, when the Dai Kaioshin was in risk of dying. We know this was because he wasnt invented yet, but it makes it almost seem as if Whis doesnt care about his cat.


Edit: Also there are four green rings, each accesses a broken timeline, only 1 is for trunks, who are the other 3? Cell? GT?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on September 17, 2016, 11:10:08 am
It seems we are getting another break. I guess it's good for planning and development.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on September 17, 2016, 02:39:39 pm
Edit: Also there are four green rings, each accesses a broken timeline, only 1 is for trunks, who are the other 3? Cell? GT?

One should be for the current Future Trunks Timeline.

The second one should be for the Timeline where Cell never showed up in the Past, and Trunks successful defeated the Androids and returned back to his future where Cell ambushed him.

Third one for Cells alternate Future where Trunks is killed by him.

Not sure about the fourth Ring, it Could be the "Movie Timeline" or the GT Timeline or something else.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on September 17, 2016, 06:28:30 pm
Man, DBSuper is so deep and complex sometimes I forget it is a cartoon and not real life.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on September 17, 2016, 07:27:14 pm
And what happens if you create a new timeline inside an already alternate timeline?  :pwn: Heck, I'm starting to wonder which timeline IS the original now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on September 17, 2016, 07:47:43 pm
Quote
The second one should be for the Timeline where Cell never showed up in the Past, and Trunks successful defeated the Androids and returned back to his future where Cell ambushed him.

Third one for Cells alternate Future where Trunks is killed by him.

whut, i those are the same.

Main Timeline where the show happens, trunks from timeline B and cell from timeline B face here, trunks kills embryo cell from this timeline.

Timeline A Theres the timeline where trunks comes back, goes back home and cell murders him

Timeline B theres the timline where trunks comes back, faces the cell from timeline A, goes home and kills the cell of his timeline.

Timeline C: GT, somehow goku gets turned into a kid and everyone is useless, girls cant be super sayan


Timeline D: Movies?

Timeline E: Shit I dunno, games?

The rings are used to travel without creating alternate timelines, but the games had a team of time distortion criminals traveling around.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on September 17, 2016, 10:24:59 pm
whut, i those are the same.

They can't be the same Timeline since his Future is not affected by the changes, because of quantum universe stuff.

So the First Trunks that was killed by Cell, created a Timeline that was never realy shown in the series, where Cell never traveld back in Time and the Androids 17 and 18 where destroyd, and 16 was probably never been activated, that means that Gohan never became a SSJ2 in that Timeline since the Cell ark never happend there, and that at some point the Cell of that timeline will wake up in a non apocalyptic world with no Androids to absorb, Android 16 still not activated, and with no Timemaschine to Travel back in Time.

Also the Buu Ark would be completly different in this Timeline since Mr. Satan would never become the "Great Hero of Earth" since there where no Cell Games.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on September 17, 2016, 10:28:44 pm
I dont understand where you are forming a timeline where Cell didnt come back, all variations we know of cell in the future lead him to kill trunks and come back, no reason to assume theres one where he just chooses not to.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 18, 2016, 12:36:37 am
Original timeline A :
Goku dies > android destroy stuff > Trunks goes back in the past then comes back > kills the androids > Cell awakens, kills Trunks > goes back to our timeline, but further than Trunks
we saw this timeline from Cell's flashback. It's the one where he didn't find the androids because Trunks had already killed them, and Cell decided he had to go back to the past to become perfect.

First changed timeline B :
future Trunks arrives from A > Goku gets a heart attack > the androids destroy stuff, but they get killed, Cell doesn't appear > Trunks A leaves > nothing else happens, probably not even the Buu arc since there was no SSJ2 that we know of > Cell awakens, but there's nothing to do for him, he probably dies like a bitch (because everyone is still alive in a perfectly healthy world)
We know this timeline exists because Trunks from A destroyed the androids in his past and returned to the future to destroy his own androids, but never learn about Cell until he woke up and ambushed him to steal his time machine. This has to be the first timeline Trunks changed before Cell stole his time machine, meaning Cell was not awake and Perfect after Goku had his heart attack. It actually seems like the best possible outcome for everyone. This was the first timeline changed by Trunks A but before Cell came back further into the past.

Second changed timeline C - this is the main one :
Cell arrives from A > Trunks arrives from A > Goku gets a heart attack > androids destroy stuff, get absorbed by Cell > Cell games etc. > Trunks knows about Cell and returns to his timeline.

Trunks timeline D - the "Future Trunks" timeline that we know the most :
Goku dies > androids destroy stuff > Trunks goes back in the past then comes back > kills the androids > Cell awakens, Trunks kills him because he knew about him thanks to his visit to C.

we can see a bit of a weird zone where Trunks from D learned in C about what Cell did in A because of something that hadn't happened yet in his timeline (further along in A). When he comes back in D, he prevents the very same event that should have made him aware of Cell's existence in the past. This is kind of a reversed, twisted grandfather paradox, but since we're talking about timelines that keep going on on their own line without being influenced by stuff happening in others unless someone directly comes there, then it all works out. It also works because Cell started later on A and went back further in time than Trunks, creating that timeline that we never saw.

This whole theory breaks a leg in Super because Trunks specifically says he goes back the same number of years so he can be sure he'll get back to the same timeline. Cell changed that by going further back than Trunks A did, so the damaged time machine that Bulma kept in store all this time should be "out of sync" with Future Trunks' timeline, making the whole gang unable to go back to D to meet Black (they should land in A instead, and more years in the future than when Trunks met Black), buuuuuuut...

Also that means there should be the main ring (C) and 3 copies (A, B, D).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on September 18, 2016, 02:47:52 am
Maybe Bulma synced the time machine with the help of Trunks since all you really had to do was fix the amount of time you move in time. I doubt the machine itself matters.

...We're probably giving this more thought than Toriyama himself I bet.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 18, 2016, 04:17:01 am
considering the zamasu paradox, yeah.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on September 18, 2016, 08:12:19 am
Thx Byakko for the detailed explanation.   :)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 23, 2016, 07:12:35 pm
... Well damn, the manga just confirmed that Zamasu is the absolute shittiest loser of the entire DBZ universe. He really did specifically pick this timeline because the God of Destruction was gone and he would be able to go nuts without being punished by daddy. ... Except then he went and killed the other kais to remove everyone else anyway. But then it kinda tries to justify it by making sure Zamasu is told "there's nothing above the god of destruction, everyone else is fair game, in fact you're probably the strongest", so it kind of works out okay ?
ALSO the manga is handling the grandfather paradox a LOT better, completely removing it !! Now we're talking. Of course that just makes the anime so fucking dumb but what else is new. Seriously, the manga pretty much resolves everything. It even makes Gowasu less of a blind loose retard.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 23, 2016, 08:09:08 pm
thanks, might catch up during the weekend.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on September 25, 2016, 08:05:10 pm
Latest episode is pretty good.

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mark85 on September 25, 2016, 08:23:02 pm
yea episode was good.Especially the part when Beerus went Gogeta on Zamasu.But since he wished for immortality I guess future Zamasu and Black
is safe.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on September 26, 2016, 01:34:36 am
This Episode was Excellent. When Goku fell off Whis's shield he was breathing for a little moment. Saiyans can't breath in space. When Whis picked Goku up with his staff, I expected Goku to hold his own throat. It would just show he can't breath but, is safe thanks to Whis.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 26, 2016, 01:42:27 am
he was breathing for a little moment.
No he wasn't.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on September 26, 2016, 03:44:04 am
Spoiler: Oh wow, holy shit! XD (click to see content)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 26, 2016, 05:22:02 am

yah, caught up with the manga, it's good and makes for a good suplementary material reading, as it skips way too much stuff to be really enjoyable by itself, it gave me back memories of those dragon ball Z summary books that were there during the 90s, wher they would go over most of the plot real fast, show a few screencaps of the coolest scenes, and maybe explain the most complex stuff so it makes more sense.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on September 26, 2016, 05:43:59 am
I fucking cried when I saw that black goku and zamasu live together in wood cabin by the edge of a cliff.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on September 26, 2016, 05:48:11 am
no homo
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Post by: Luis Alejandro on September 26, 2016, 05:53:39 am
They are basically a couple. Opposites attract...zamasu most likely wished to have goku as his immortal partner forever. How else can you explain super sayain rose?!? Homos!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on September 26, 2016, 08:22:24 pm
He broke up with Gowasu to run away with Black

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Post by: Omega on September 28, 2016, 03:26:09 pm
It would be funny if Goku Black is now serving Zamasu like Zamasu served Gowasu. Preparing his tea and whatnot. They are together somewhere in the woods so that could be possible. Zamasu was kinda upset about Goku beating him and this made him wish for Goku Black as a servant. Not just for fighting but, also for doing Zamasu's old work.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on September 29, 2016, 10:39:32 pm
Goku Black's identity revealed, you have been warned.
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Post by: ShinZankuro on September 29, 2016, 10:49:31 pm
Spoiler: Seriously... (click to see content)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Saint on September 29, 2016, 10:54:23 pm
Goku Black's identity revealed, you have been warned.
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 interesting. cant wait for it to be revealed in the animation
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on September 30, 2016, 12:30:54 am
lmao, what a load of BS.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on September 30, 2016, 12:38:25 am
No, come on, man, the manga just managed to resolve the stupidity of the anime, don't throw another pile on it right away like that :(
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on September 30, 2016, 12:41:47 am
I dont even understand what it means.
Its not a evil clone its...
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Post by: -Red- on October 02, 2016, 06:30:25 am
Was the time chamber ever fully explained? Like, isn't there just a door between the inside and outside of the chamber? What happens if you don't completely get into the chamber? Does half of your body age at an extremely slow rate? And what about someone opening the door to see what's going on inside? Will he see the people inside the time chamber in super slow motion? Will the people inside the chamber see the people outside of it at super fast motion?

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Post by: Byakko on October 02, 2016, 02:50:27 pm
I don't know if it was ever explicitly said but I always thought the Time Chamber was effective/active only when the door was completely closed ?

At least we know where Black comes from : the regular timeline, not the future timeline, just a few years into the future.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 03, 2016, 02:15:51 am
well, I hope the manga fixes that too; I mean, is perfectly doable since goku might have been destined to meet zamasu on the multiuniverse tournament, which ends up creating black. the trunks just made this accelerate kind of what alreayd happened in teh android saga by triggering different android #s.

also, it 's fun knowing that goku prostitute-fucked milk
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Post by: DragonSlayerEX on October 03, 2016, 02:32:43 am
I dont even understand what it means.
Its not a evil clone its...
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from my understanding of things, I think what happened was zamasu revived goku (in his timeline, goku wasn't as strong as goku in our timeline) and switched bodies, pretty much like he explained. After switching bodies of course he kills goku, but than afterwards zamasu (once he obtained the body of goku) goes back in time, to stop his past self from going through with the wish to revive goku, so that he can instead make a wish, for an undying body..!

What do you think?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 03, 2016, 03:06:24 am
why would he revive goku in this timeline if goku is alive ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: yaminogun on October 03, 2016, 03:43:41 am
@not above me
i think it simple!
1.ftrunks timeline v1= cell killed by ftrunks
2.ftrunks timeline v2=cell is not killed by ftrunks
3.main timeline v1= zamas killed by beer
4.main timeline v2= zamas is not killed by beer

1>3
2>3
3>1
4>1 ?

@2 buu is revived and no one stop him, no one can enter no 2 anymore becoz easy plot
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on October 03, 2016, 03:16:20 pm
And what about someone opening the door to see what's going on inside [the time chamber]?
Will he see the people inside the time chamber in super slow motion?
Will the people inside the chamber see the people outside of it at super fast motion?
Well, that would be the opposite if that were the case.
The people inside the Time Chamber would see the outside people in slow motion and/or the people outside would see the people inside in fast motion.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on October 04, 2016, 12:17:22 am
I don't know if it was ever explicitly said but I always thought the Time Chamber was effective/active only when the door was completely closed ?

In what's a pretty weird coincidence, the Dragon Ball Multiverse comic just featured a situation where this happens  :mad:

http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-1237.html#h_read

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Well, that would be the opposite if that were the case.
The people inside the Time Chamber would see the outside people in slow motion and/or the people outside would see the people inside in fast motion.

Yeah you're right.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mark85 on October 05, 2016, 08:41:25 pm
OK so I get it I guess
Original:Zamasu wished for an Fake Goku and immortality and ends up destroying our Trunks world.
Alternate Current Timeline:The Trunks came back,warned and asked for a help from Goku and Vegeta,and Beerus destroyed Zamasu preventing from wish happening.
Alternate Current Timeline 2:Black knew that Beerus was going to destroy zamasu.So he somehow came to the timeline,warned Zamasu,so he wished for his body to be replaced with Goku's and killed Goku and escaped,basically he split the timeline once again.
But the thing is.If Zamasu(Timeline 2) switched bodies with Goku because of Black's warning.How there is a Zamasu in the future? Does immortality wish protected him from getting altered? and How the fuck Black existed in the first place?  I mean even if Zamasu(Original)wished for someone with power of Son Goku,where the hell Black came.Was he always Zamasu? did his identity changed? or Super Dragonball's created him from nothingness?

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on October 06, 2016, 04:48:46 am
Preview for episode 62. It contains spoilers, obviously
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on October 06, 2016, 09:17:04 am
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on October 07, 2016, 12:15:41 pm
Are you guys looking forward to the upcoming episodes? cause we got spoilers for episode 62 to 65
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on October 08, 2016, 01:29:22 am
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Post by: -Red- on October 08, 2016, 01:34:35 am
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Thagr8test on October 09, 2016, 03:47:50 am
Today's episode was epic disappointed in vegeta but thats the norm nowadays cool to see goku angry for a change too
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 09, 2016, 12:28:24 pm
Wow. the anime just made the paradox even worse than it already was. Incredible.
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Post by: 1Ultima on October 09, 2016, 12:31:30 pm
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on October 09, 2016, 04:03:08 pm
i havent touched super yet but toriyama did said he has some plans for vegeta after battle of the gods and in resurrection we saw a little bit of that and i thought he'll go all out in super but i think toriyama is giving the gohan/tein treatment to everybody since even the main villain now is goku.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on October 09, 2016, 06:25:37 pm
Still hoping for some Vegeta relevance as well, but this Broly-fied Trunks will do for now. As long as Goku doesn't get all the glory again. I don't think the time fuckery isn't quite as bad as it could have been. Kind of makes sense that the time machine to the past would create a new time-verse each time given what happened with Z.

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Was hoping Towa/Mira would somehow become a canon thing with all the time travel though. I guess having Goku and company rolling into the past to help himself fight Freeza and Cell all over again(but purple this time) would be a bit samey and boring.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 09, 2016, 07:17:59 pm
Still hoping for some Vegeta relevance as well, but this Broly-fied Trunks will do for now. As long as Goku doesn't get all the glory again. I don't think the time fuckery isn't quite as bad as it could have been. Kind of makes sense that the time machine to the past would create a new time-verse each time given what happened with Z.

the complains are not about creating a new universe, but about having cause and effect fucked up it's like having the original androids 17 and 18 be so strong because the red ribbon army analyzed trunks fight with freeza. I was expecting the anime to just disregard how goku caused zaasu to hate him so we coudl theorize they met in a future tournament, but the aniem just had to go and say the thing taht fucks up cause and effect.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on October 09, 2016, 08:18:54 pm
Also Zamasu guilt tripping Trunk is so stupid. Had he never went back in time all the humans would have died to the androids and shit anyway, so either way he was fucked. Trunks should be smart enough to not to get pissed off by something so stupid but I guess they needed a way to trigger him without having to kill Mai for that :mlol:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on October 09, 2016, 11:13:17 pm
Goku got mad that Black killed the two worst characters~

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on October 09, 2016, 11:19:45 pm
Wow. the anime just made the paradox even worse than it already was. Incredible.

Exactly.
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Post by: Byakko on October 09, 2016, 11:44:27 pm
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 10, 2016, 12:27:07 am
The ring is supposed to be a self sustaining paradox enabler, but then.. Why is the ring grey instead of being green? The ring that gowasu showed that should be able to travel into alternate timelines was green.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: HadeS on October 10, 2016, 12:29:28 am
There were 4 green rings and 1 gray.
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Post by: Iced on October 10, 2016, 12:33:44 am
the gray one was the normal continuity. the green ones were alternate timelines.


So, how is black on an alternate timeline with a gray ring?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 10, 2016, 12:50:36 am
The ring is supposed to be a self sustaining paradox enabler
There's still no point in time where he should have been able to get it. If we're talking about the Zamasu that lost to Goku, that one is from the main timeline and he gets killed by Beerus. The Zamasu that killed Gowasu and got the ring, which timeline did he come from ? Toei is trying to say it's the same that lost to Goku, but that is the main timeline and he gets killed by Beerus. There's no timeline where Goku fights Zamasu but Zamasu doesn't get killed by Beerus afterward, the anime is saying that's where Black comes from, further along in the future, but it doesn't exist.
And we're missing the original timeline from before Trunks came back and was followed by Black. In that timeline, Goku doesn't fight Zamasu, since he doesn't meet Black. This should have been the one where Zamasu carries out his plan on his own and gets the ring, and still learns about Goku through our own Kaiohshin - exactly like the manga did it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 10, 2016, 02:07:20 am
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/07de8ed337a212c159efe03104bd00e9/tumblr_ntna20bc0Q1r3dlhmo9_1280.jpg)
So is Trunks form a perfect form of ssj2 or is it like what Vegeta used against beerus?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: senorfro on October 10, 2016, 05:14:33 am
I want to know what happened in Black's timeline.  He killed Goku and his family, but isn't Gohan still alive (he wasn't shown getting killed)?  Also, what about the other Z-fighters?  Or, did Black just leave his timeline after killing Goten and ChiChi?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on October 10, 2016, 01:01:22 pm
Timelines aren't that much of a mess. There are currently two timelines and different worlds/universes.

Current timeline is now. Trunks's timeline is the future wich got altered. So it became a multiverse type world.
The current timeline has its own future and past worlds. The timelines that are seperated into different worlds/universes has itheir own futures and pasts aswell. I believe Black and Zamasu are able to travel between all of them with the time ring. So a real connection can't be made as there are multiple worlds.

Goku's body got stolen by Zamasu. This didn't affect the current Goku. Beerus destroyed Zamasu and it didn't affect Trunks's timeline a bit. It could be atleast altered in some small ways. Zamasu being destroyed by Beerus should atleast have a slight impact in that timeline.

Those worlds are not connected so whatever they do in the current, past or future worlds won't affect each other. Only someone who travels back to the past can effect that timeline but, someone from the past can't alter the future I believe. Because the past doesn't belong to the future as it has yet to happen.

When Trunsk traveled back in time to warn Goku about the Androids, Cell was already there. They both traveled to the same past with different goals, and that timeline got dramaticly altered.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on October 10, 2016, 01:11:07 pm
trunks: BLAACCKAAROOOTTTT!!!!.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 10, 2016, 02:10:40 pm

Again, the problem is the timeline where Zamasu got the ring. He fought Goku and lost, but the only timeline where Goku visited universe 10 is quickly followed by Zamasu's death by Beerus. There shouldn't be any other timeline in which Zamasu loses to Goku and then manages to get the time ring, because Beerus invariably kills him between these two events. There's no alternate timeline that branches off or into this.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 10, 2016, 04:32:56 pm
Something is Fishy.

Black recognized whis and vegeta, but present zamasu would never have met vegeta in the timeline going on.
His ring also pulled out of the present because he "didnt belong there", but if his story is cohese, the ring is from that timeline, so it doesnt make sense for it to tell black that he doesnt belong to that timeline.

I think he might be from a divergent timeline and isnt aware of it himself
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 10, 2016, 04:47:01 pm
Black recognized whis and vegeta, but present zamasu would never have met vegeta in the timeline going on.
He could have seen him around the time he killed Goten and Chichi, I suppose (and just left before fighting him because he didn't care about him). But good point on the ring pulling Black out of the main timeline. Unless it's only because he followed the hole caused by Trunks' time machine, and when that hole closed, it pulled Black back, not the ring, because he didn't use a time machine ? And the Toei writers are just bad at making things make sense and saying it correctly. This applies in all cases, anyway.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on October 10, 2016, 07:56:49 pm
(http://66.media.tumblr.com/07de8ed337a212c159efe03104bd00e9/tumblr_ntna20bc0Q1r3dlhmo9_1280.jpg)
So is Trunks form a perfect form of ssj2 or is it like what Vegeta used against beerus?

Nah. This looks like something new.
Vegeta's was just a rage boost. And while this also appears to be a rage boost, notice the blue aura mixed with the normal SSJ aura.
Maybe that training with Vegeta gave Trunks access to God Ki? Like how Vegeta was able to get SSJB? Who knows.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on October 10, 2016, 08:44:25 pm
I realy hate reaction before action Time Paradoxes, I already hated them in Star Trek they can created alterate Timelines that "never existed" out of nowhere.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: VinnyJ on October 10, 2016, 09:46:16 pm
Possible timeline explanation?
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Post by: Byakko on October 10, 2016, 11:41:12 pm
That's not an explanation, that's literally saying "it happened because we've seen it". It's a self-sustaining paradox and they're just banking on the ring to justify it without having to explain it, they just say "there is a Zamasu that got the time ring because we've seen him become Black", ignoring that it can't actually happen that way. What they call the "fixed timeline" isn't predetermined as Zamasu getting the ring, it only leads to Zamasu getting killed by Beerus. There's no justification to claim that a "fixed timeline" can have been automatically created by Zamasu getting beaten by Goku, and what we're seeing is just Beerus creating an exit on that loop. They just say "you have to think 4-dimensionally" but "automatically creating a fixed timeline" with arbitrary content is just not a thing that exists even in this kind of talk.

They're also confusing what Toriyama says with what Toei filled in. The explanation is much simpler : the anime has bad writers and Toyotaro very easily fixed that paradox in the manga. There is a timeline where Zamasu simply learned about Goku on his own, killed Gowasu, got the ring, created Black, and followed Trunks back in time, causing Goku to seek Zamasu, leading to Beerus killing Zamasu. That is how a loop is fixed.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 10, 2016, 11:54:55 pm
agreed, we alreayd have a tounrmanet set up for later, where goku is gonna participate and SPOILER is gonna win, so zamasu would most likely meet goku there, the only thing needed to do was to shut up about how things happened instead of stating something that is flat out wrong.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on October 11, 2016, 07:16:59 pm
I told y'all them niggas gay
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on October 18, 2016, 05:08:43 pm
If they really want the early Dragonball spirit back, they could have included Tien. Because in Dragonball, they all fight and help each other. Goku learning the Mafuba is Excellent but, Master Roshi could tell Goku that Tien knows the move aswell. Goku and Vegeta could fight against Black Goku and Zamasu while Tien could perform the Mafuba with a possible flashback. I mean Tien is training too. He could atleast use The Mafuba and share the credit for saving the world with them.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on October 18, 2016, 05:16:37 pm
toriyama: who's this tien guy?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 18, 2016, 05:23:38 pm
Master Roshi could tell Goku that Tien knows the move aswell.
Did you not even look at the sequence with Piccolo saying he knows it and getting blown off by Goku ignoring him
why are you even talking about Tien
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 18, 2016, 06:18:03 pm
what's a piccolo ? a nurse ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on October 23, 2016, 02:50:15 am
Next episode is the episode you have been waiting for. Spoilers ahead.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on October 23, 2016, 08:26:19 pm
Well, our Sayajin-oji got his score evened.

Cool episode. Pace seemed kinda accelerated, but it's better than shit moving too slow like in Z.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on October 23, 2016, 08:27:21 pm
this episode had great animation, its really good stuff
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on October 23, 2016, 09:19:50 pm
The animation was a lot better. I hope it stays at a similar quality in future eps.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 24, 2016, 12:34:38 am
The animation was a lot better. I hope it stays at a similar quality in future eps.

My guess is that theya re using muliple studio so that's impossible.ifaanything let's hopepe they use te C league one for really worhtless episodes.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Luis Alejandro on October 24, 2016, 03:17:39 pm
Yo dbs is life right
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on October 25, 2016, 01:46:42 am
Really a nice episode! :D
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Saint on October 27, 2016, 05:04:08 pm
am I the only dragon ball fan that hasn't seen anything about super or doesn't care.
maybe Im missing out idk
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 27, 2016, 05:13:46 pm
am I the only
No
The answer is always no.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Saint on October 27, 2016, 05:22:46 pm
I know im not, i just wanted to hear what others had to say but whatever.  real question is should i give super my time?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on October 27, 2016, 05:34:11 pm
Well, it doesn't hurt to give it a chance. Not like it's an unrecognizable shell of itself or anything.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Just No Point on October 27, 2016, 05:58:42 pm
I'll wait till the arc is over
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on October 27, 2016, 06:13:13 pm
Read the manga. There's only like, what, 15 chapters ?

The anime is starting to get better right now, after the stupid plotholes are cleared away by the manga.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on October 27, 2016, 06:15:10 pm
Theres an interview up on kazenshuu, which I dont have the link to but E sent me it a few days ago.

Toyotaro said manga got done first so he can clear up things after doubts come up and he does his version.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 29, 2016, 06:46:51 pm
it was this link, afaik;
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2016-10-26/dragon-ball-super-toyotarou/.107579
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on October 30, 2016, 10:26:18 am
It was a fun episode.

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Post by: PeXXeR on October 30, 2016, 11:21:17 am
When Masako said ''play time is over'' I tought of Kyo instantly :D
As for the series as a whole, well, this arc is damn good, ones before that were meh.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 30, 2016, 04:34:39 pm
the prevkous episode prview ruined this episode for me. we knew that the fusion had to happen whcih made trunks struggle pretty pointless as we knew zamasu was going ot get out to perform the fusion.
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on October 30, 2016, 05:59:10 pm
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Post by: Koop on October 30, 2016, 07:09:33 pm
the prevkous episode prview ruined this episode for me. we knew that the fusion had to happen whcih made trunks struggle pretty pointless as we knew zamasu was going ot get out to perform the fusion.

The only thing was wondering how he would escape the mafuba. It was obvious that they wouldn't have the seal though.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on October 31, 2016, 08:09:02 pm
] only just now realized that having ginyu back was foreshadowing.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on October 31, 2016, 08:35:12 pm
One thing I really liked on this arc is the fact of Shinichiro Miki is dubbing a DB character for the first time. [I don't know if he dubbed any DB char before]

I can only imagine Zamasu saying Akira Yuki's win quote as a easter egg or joke LOL
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: VinnyJ on October 31, 2016, 09:04:39 pm
The timeline on TOEI's site: Link in Japanese (http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/special/07.html)
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on October 31, 2016, 10:54:01 pm
caught up with dbs i noticed something, pan is already  born yet bra isn't? i thought bra is older than pan or is she erased from existence?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on November 01, 2016, 12:04:31 am
We can blame Zamasu for any inconsistency with the original DBZ ending.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on November 01, 2016, 12:04:47 am
Welp contrary to popular belief Pan is OLDER than Bra by like a year. Apparently it was an accident they made back in the day regarding the years they were born. Pan born in age 779 and Bra in age 780. Thing is Super is currently in the year she should be been born so unless she pops out after this arc it'll be safe to assume she's good and rectoned.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 01, 2016, 12:16:24 am
We can blame Zamasu for any inconsistency with the original DBZ ending.

at least we can blame zamasu to make GT non existant anymore, so it was a noble sacrifice.

it's spanish but the amin idea shall remain.
(https://scontent.ftrc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14907124_778685252271340_1650437166140535358_n.jpg?oh=dfb806ab702ca050585b389791dac631&oe=589D85BA)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on November 01, 2016, 12:17:28 am
/\ Ok, this is weird :v
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Post by: Byakko on November 01, 2016, 12:19:37 am
Thing is Super is currently in the year she should be been born so unless she pops out after this arc it'll be safe to assume she's good and rectoned.
I expect her to be conceived right as Vegeta and Bulma return from saving Trunks' timeline and seeing him off with his girlfriend. Pan must maybe 6 months old or something. It fits. And there's no way they're retconning the original manga.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on November 01, 2016, 01:49:10 am
unless toriyama forgets that bra exists.
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Post by: Bastard Wolf on November 01, 2016, 04:58:50 am
future trunks deserves some extra credit for mastering the long forgotten and deadly to use technique mafuba by simply watching a 30 second video of piccolo on his mom's phone that offered no explanation whatsoever of how said move worked or the logic behind it.

and he did all of this in like 5 minutes after recovering from a fatal injury and while being under pressure of learing it quickly while his mother was distracting an immortal murderous sociopath. and he was able to do it right the 1st time without even practicing (and didn't died after doing it)

on the other hand goku had to go and ask his old master and do a little training montage before he could get it right. and if this had been any other character or taken place during in a diffent arc it would have needed it's own 5 episodes subplot
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 01, 2016, 11:47:13 pm
(https://scontent.ftrc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14907124_778685252271340_1650437166140535358_n.jpg?oh=dfb806ab702ca050585b389791dac631&oe=589D85BA)

LOL, this is great! :XD:
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Post by: VinnyJ on November 02, 2016, 10:07:22 pm
Hmm.. if I recall correctly, Old Kai said that you aren't supposed to be transformed when fusing.
I expect that to be an issue down the line for Zamasu.
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Post by: Koop on November 02, 2016, 10:20:10 pm
Yes that's right. You can't stay powered up forever since that would cut your lifespan and you wouldn't be able to turn it off. But Zamasu is immortal so that most likely negates that downside.
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Post by: 1Ultima on November 04, 2016, 06:45:09 pm
Dub confirmed (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-04/funimation-licenses-dragon-ball-super-plans-english-dub/.108465)
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Post by: lui on November 05, 2016, 12:57:38 am
oooh that's some good news.

although im not excited to revisit the beerus and frieza revival saga at a sloth pace again :/
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 06, 2016, 01:48:56 am
Watched Ep. 65 (No sub of course).
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Post by: -Red- on November 06, 2016, 03:24:36 am
Yeah, but to be fair that was the only possible outcome for the next episode. I'm sure more than one of us saw it coming.
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Post by: ShinZankuro on November 06, 2016, 03:36:03 am
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 06, 2016, 04:15:35 am
isn't vegetto fusion permanent? unlike gogeta and i prefer gogeta design wise.
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 06, 2016, 04:33:46 am
I prefer Gogeta too, but i think that because of the limited time of the Yadorat's Fusion, Gogeta won't be a good option against Zamasu.

Also, i forgot to mention
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Post by: ShinZankuro on November 06, 2016, 04:37:54 am
isn't vegetto fusion permanent? unlike gogeta and i prefer gogeta design wise.

Vegetto fusion was break up when they are inside on Boo's body.

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EDIT: It's Metamoru, not yadorat's Gui xD


EDIT 2: Gogeta has a time limit, and judging for
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this could be a very worst option.
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Post by: lui on November 06, 2016, 04:43:30 am
its dragonball, nothing is ever permanent.

theyre probably gonna come up with a cop-out reason as to why vegito isn't gonna be permanent

also, when does it state that gogeta has a strict time limit? as far as I know they only used him the last second because it was their last option and he happened to swoop janemba in quite literally five minutes because he was that powerful, i dont think there was ever a mention of a time limit
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Post by: ShinZankuro on November 06, 2016, 04:47:39 am
Metamoru dance has a time limit of 30 minutes[This time limit could be more lesser when the new body are using more power]. Just see Gotenks as example xP

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Post by: Niitris on November 06, 2016, 04:56:44 am
Gogeta isn't canon, so who knows. I've never heard of Fusion Dance being permanent though.

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Post by: ShinZankuro on November 06, 2016, 05:03:07 am
I think some people are mistaking.

地獄の花 said about prefering Gogeta design and fusion method.

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Metamoru dance[Gotenks canonically, Gogeta on his movie GT and games] has a 30 min time limit.
Potara Earnings[Vegetto and now Zamasu Gattai] has a permanent time, until Shenron or a powerful magic force makes these to return to normal.

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Post by: Gritsmaster on November 06, 2016, 05:28:19 am
S/O to my boy Android 8 for holding down the cameo.
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Post by: PeXXeR on November 06, 2016, 06:45:40 am
Really enjoying this arc so far, it has some stupid stuff in it like trunks and the mafuba, but at the same time I loved the giniyu force style poses he was doing.  Zamasu's fusion with dem attack names, shit straight out of final fantasy lol.
Cant wait for the next episode. Nozawa is still amazing at 80 years old.
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Post by: Omega on November 06, 2016, 12:32:00 pm
Great Episode. Did you guys notice Future Androide 8? Was he alive or like frozen to dead?
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Post by: Byakko on November 06, 2016, 12:40:29 pm
also, when does it state that gogeta has a strict time limit?
Gogeta isn't canon, so who knows. I've never heard of Fusion Dance being permanent though.
Why would you think it's not the same as Gotenks
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on November 06, 2016, 01:31:59 pm
ningen GET OUT
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Post by: Niitris on November 06, 2016, 01:39:13 pm
Why would you think it's not the same as Gotenks

A much stronger Goku and Vegeta (compared to then) being at a level far beyond that of the half-sayajin Goten and Trunks, and history of inconsistency, makes the possibility sound more plausible. Wouldn't be the first time rules were broken to accommodate the story.
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Post by: Iced on November 06, 2016, 01:41:28 pm
Metamoru fusion has always been thirty minutes with less time if the fusion person uses more power ( ssj3 gotenks is supposed to break apart pretty fast)

Even Buu with gotenks and piccolo eventually broke apart into his base components and defaulted to having Piccolo as the strongest creature it had absorbed
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Post by: Byakko on November 06, 2016, 01:56:30 pm
They never said that a person being more powerful would make the fusion shorter. If it was the case, then no one could predict that the Gotenks fusion would last 30 minutes. No one could predict anything if there were such differences as soon as you change the race or the power level of the fusees, yet it's always been said "30 minutes" since it was introduced.
Also failed fat Gogeta also lasted 30 minutes, just like the other Gotenks failures and successful fusions, until Gotenks turned SSJ3. Everyone always said it would last 30 minutes, actually, there's been no alternative this. It's been very consistent, SSJ3 being the exception, not the rule, and not because it's more powerful but because it specifically drains power as opposed to the other SSJ forms that regenerate power (making Goku unable to maintain it after he was resurrected).
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Post by: Koop on November 06, 2016, 02:02:22 pm
What Byakko said. It's not the fusion that gets shorter. Gotenks can only hold SSJ3 for 5 minutes. He was still fused even after he powered down.
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 06, 2016, 02:48:15 pm
EDIT: It's Metamoru, not yadorat's Gui xD

Oh, oops. :XD:

Great Episode. Did you guys notice Future Androide 8? Was he alive or like frozen to dead?

He's alive, as i said before. :)

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Post by: President Devon on November 06, 2016, 02:57:17 pm
Looks like we're getting a completely serious Vegito, which is neat.
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 06, 2016, 03:03:10 pm
Looks like we're getting a completely serious Vegito, which is neat.

As i remember, Vegetto had Vegeta's personality. I think that something will happend with Mirai Trunks and/or Bulma.
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Post by: Shocksconstant on November 06, 2016, 03:31:51 pm
It's more to do with zamasu being someone he can't screw around with like Buuhan remember zamasu is both immortal and his power, according to him, infinitely increases.
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Post by: Byakko on November 06, 2016, 05:32:05 pm
Damn, a Kamehameha combined with Final Flash!!
Final Kamehameha has been his technique in every game he appeared.
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Post by: Graphicus on November 07, 2016, 03:56:41 am
Wasn't it Big Bang Kamehameha?
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Post by: Niitris on November 07, 2016, 04:01:40 am
That's something different, it uses Big Bang Attack instead of Final Flash.
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Post by: President Devon on November 07, 2016, 09:09:35 am
Wasn't it Big Bang Kamehameha?
That's Gogeta
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 07, 2016, 01:02:06 pm
big bang kamehameha was ssj4 gogeta's thing.
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Post by: Lichtbringer on November 07, 2016, 04:29:47 pm
I have a technical questions about Fusions, was it ever explained in the Anime, Manga or Bonus Material how Fused characters can just Fuse there techniques too, and are able to put never seen ones out of out of nowhere? That was something that always wondering about.

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Post by: Byakko on November 07, 2016, 05:31:12 pm
It's a person that has memory and knowledge of both the guys that fuse together. What do you not understand in that person being able to merge two different skills into one ? As for inventing new techniques not related to existing ones, it's no different from Piccolo inventing Makankousappou etc.
But realistically speaking, it's all about the hand gestures and that's just rule of cool because there's never been any real indication that there's such a relevant difference between Galick Gun, Kamehameha, Final Flash, or Big Bang Attack, it's just "concentrate a ball of energy here then fire, either as one ball or as a continuous stream". The shape of the attack is rule of cool.
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Post by: Lichtbringer on November 07, 2016, 06:41:51 pm
It's a person that has memory and knowledge of both the guys that fuse together. What do you not understand in that person being able to merge two different skills into one ? As for inventing new techniques not related to existing ones, it's no different from Piccolo inventing Makankousappou etc.
But realistically speaking, it's all about the hand gestures and that's just rule of cool because there's never been any real indication that there's such a relevant difference between Galick Gun, Kamehameha, Final Flash, or Big Bang Attack, it's just "concentrate a ball of energy here then fire, either as one ball or as a continuous stream". The shape of the attack is rule of cool.

It could be just realy easy to combine such attacks into a Fused one if the user knows them both, but only Fused chars are the ones who do it, but that still don't explains how they can create some attacks out of now where without having to realy invent the techniques like Piccolo did with the Makankōsappō, they are just there when they need them.

If you realy invent a technique than you need some time to do so, and some time to even master it to a point where it is usefull, but Gotenks for example could create sentient exlpoding ghosts without any way of knowing how to do something like that except "Fusion Magic" or something like that.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on November 07, 2016, 07:15:05 pm
its just liek any other fighting manga/whatever, they can invetn thcnique on the fly,  what requires time is fine tunning the technique.

I mean, it's not like fused characters are any kind of  exception on how technique learning/creating works in dragon ball, goku learns the kamehameha after seeing it once, trunk onyl watches a crappy cellphone recording with no explanation of the mafooba and is able to do it perfectly.
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Post by: Byakko on November 07, 2016, 07:24:58 pm
New personality, new ideas, and enough power and control means training isn't necessarily needed. Did you wonder how Vegetto managed to create one bullet of light on each fingertip and fire them in a scattering way ? Or how Gotenks pulled all these new techniques called "swing your fist then hit hard" or "fire plenty of blasts from both hands" ? Or how Goku fired a Kamehameha with his feet without training in that tournament, or changed the direction of the beam to turn around the target without knowing that it was possible ? No ? So why do you need more explanation than that for the ghosts ?
Sentient exploding ghosts are, again, simply rule of cool to show how crazy and unconventional Gotenks is.
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Post by: Spec Gespenst on November 08, 2016, 07:03:13 am
Not sure if this is worth saying it, but for those who are curious about this month's episode titles...
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Post by: Iced on November 08, 2016, 11:42:59 am
you are spoilering that there are no spoilers for the future titles. I dont see the point.
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Post by: Byakko on November 08, 2016, 12:05:16 pm
Also even when there is a title, it's not a spoiler at all if it's the official announcement from a TV guide.
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Post by: Spec Gespenst on November 08, 2016, 03:45:48 pm
Provisional title for ep 67's one of the upcoming episode's (not sure if it's 67 though) out
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Post by: Byakko on November 08, 2016, 04:16:06 pm
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Post by: ShinZankuro on November 09, 2016, 03:43:29 am
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Post by: Bastard Mami on November 09, 2016, 04:12:18 am
that's cool and all but that's not reall lucifer's schtick.
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 09, 2016, 03:24:03 pm
i've heard people talking about rumors that raditz and nappa will show in super dunno if it'll be a flash back or they will get a cameo or a real scene.  but seeing that after this arc they are hinting showing more alternate universe saiyans.
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Post by: Bastard Mami on November 09, 2016, 05:59:31 pm
tho, the other universes are supossed to be more unlike the regular universe.
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Post by: lui on November 13, 2016, 01:16:57 am
this episode has the best animation by far. the entire episode is just wonderfully executed, i guess saving the budget for the big one payed off
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Post by: rgveda99 on November 13, 2016, 01:37:40 am
Ouch.  :shocked3:

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Post by: ShinZankuro on November 13, 2016, 01:41:04 am
Best animation so far, sure... But:

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Post by: lui on November 13, 2016, 01:43:06 am
i liked the twist

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Post by: Niitris on November 13, 2016, 01:55:11 am
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Post by: -Red- on November 13, 2016, 03:32:10 am
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Everything we knew was a LIE.
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Post by: Solarflared on November 13, 2016, 03:32:24 am
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Post by: lui on November 13, 2016, 03:37:06 am
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Post by: Niitris on November 13, 2016, 03:39:51 am
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Post by: -Red- on November 13, 2016, 03:43:17 am
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Also I just noticed that Vegeta was wearing his standard armor instead of his Buu saga outfit. Wouldn't that result in a different Vegetto design that includes the armor? They did it right with Goku by giving him back his standard outfit but they forgot about Vegeta.
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Post by: lui on November 13, 2016, 03:45:18 am
Also I just noticed that Vegeta was wearing his standard armor instead of his Buu saga outfit. Wouldn't that result in a different Vegetto design that includes the armor? They did it right with Goku by giving him back his standard outfit but they forgot about Vegeta.
it's toriyama man, toriyama. the same guy who came up with super saiyan because he got tired of inking in hair, you really think he'll be thinking about details like that?
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Post by: President Devon on November 13, 2016, 03:48:19 am
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 13, 2016, 03:54:48 am
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Post by: -Red- on November 13, 2016, 03:58:10 am
I wonder how the manga is going to tackle on certain things like...

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That was what I was waiting for too :/
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Post by: ShinZankuro on November 13, 2016, 04:20:12 am
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Post by: PeXXeR on November 13, 2016, 05:46:19 am
In my mind, the Vegetto redkon is kinda good, means they can bring him more into the series.
Aside the ass pules the episode was great.
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Post by: Prototype God on November 13, 2016, 08:49:53 am

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But hey at least the fight scenes were solid this episode
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Post by: Lichtbringer on November 13, 2016, 12:23:59 pm
What I think about the Episode.
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Post by: Mark85 on November 13, 2016, 12:56:46 pm
So Goku's Spirit Bomb in Buu saga is nearly capable of killing Buu?,while Trunks just kills Zamasu with a little amount of energy he just gathered from Earth? Holy shit

Well,I'm sad about Vegito not even lasting for 5 minutes,but it actually kinda makes sense.It would be better if it was Gogeta but he isn't canon,I really imagined Stardust Breaker on Zamasu
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Post by: Shocksconstant on November 13, 2016, 01:45:56 pm
Trunks' spirit Bankai would of been better if the entire episode revolved around that rather than shoehorning Vegito in for like literally 5 minutes. Another thing is how Goku ends up over powering fused Zamasu when both Vegeta and Trunks together couldn't accomplished mind you Vegeta at this point should be somewhat stronger than Goku and Trunks is relatively equal in strength.
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Post by: Byakko on November 13, 2016, 01:51:10 pm
Another thing is how Goku ends up over powering fused Zamasu when both Vegeta and Trunks together couldn't accomplished mind you Vegeta at this point should be somewhat stronger than Goku and Trunks is relatively equal in strength.
That's just obvious main hero power. It shouldn't be a surprise.
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 13, 2016, 02:34:23 pm
they should've used gogeta instead, fighting zamasu on equal footing and when gogeta got the upper hand poof times up they revert to normal then enter trunks saves the day credits roll then gt theme music starts dragonball gt kai begins but instead of trunks and pan, its goku, yamcha and bulma turned all into kids.
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 13, 2016, 03:20:42 pm
The best fight scene so far in this episode.
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Post by: Chronan on November 13, 2016, 04:38:47 pm
This series has given me way to much work to do on Trunkz 2.0 and Trunks 1.0(sword ver) all these new supers and specials based off pal options might as well be two characters in one. I'm not complaining though, I've been enjoying it a lot. It's great mindless entertainment. Can't wait til I'm physically able to remain on a computer for more than an hour at a time so I can start coding/spriting again..

This last episode had one of my favorite unreleased tracks from DBKai 2014 in it, I think fans call it "Impatience" or something basically from when Majin Vegeta and Buu are being bad, bad boys was good to hear it again.
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Post by: -Red- on November 13, 2016, 05:49:46 pm
So Goku's Spirit Bomb in Buu saga is nearly capable of killing Buu?,while Trunks just kills Zamasu with a little amount of energy he just gathered from Earth? Holy shit

...And Goku and Vegeta's energy. You know, the two people that are infinitely stronger than in the Buu saga, even when they're all wrecked. The two Kaioshins probably helped too.

Also Zamasu was weakened from the fight with Vegetto, making things easier for Trunks.
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 13, 2016, 05:55:11 pm
the only good thing here is that more strike supers and ultra for xenoverse 2 yay!
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Post by: ShinZankuro on November 13, 2016, 05:57:37 pm
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Post by: lui on November 13, 2016, 06:04:20 pm
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Post by: Niitris on November 13, 2016, 06:32:15 pm
The finish kinda did suck. Fused Zamasu looked like a chump. Vegito was finished before he even started, making him look like a chump. Spirit bomb sword was anti-climatic and borderline out the ass. The buildup was so great and then the ending just fell flat.

Whatev, it got the silly superhuman fighting scenes right. Could've had this ending with Episode 5's animation.
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Post by: lui on November 13, 2016, 06:34:08 pm
Im not irked by the vegito switch in bait, i just wished they explained it a bit better
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 13, 2016, 06:57:38 pm
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people never did expect it to be great but still with people having knowledge of the potara fusion and copout explanation why did they think vegito was needed on the first place? why not gogeta? if they're going for timelimit thing plus gogeta is cooler.
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Post by: Byakko on November 13, 2016, 07:08:00 pm
plus gogeta is cooler.
No he's not.
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 13, 2016, 07:13:32 pm
he is.
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Post by: Neocide on November 13, 2016, 07:15:41 pm
Gogeta is not cooler than Vegito,not at all.
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 13, 2016, 07:17:13 pm
except gogeta ended his.
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Post by: Neocide on November 13, 2016, 07:23:16 pm
Because it was a movie.
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Post by: Iced on November 13, 2016, 07:26:15 pm
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people never did expect it to be great but still with people having knowledge of the potara fusion and copout explanation why did they think vegito was needed on the first place? why not gogeta? if they're going for timelimit thing plus gogeta is cooler.
canon wise gogeta was never a thing.

he was a thing in GT but that gogeta did jack shit to the point where his ultimate move was this
(https://67.media.tumblr.com/b5a59552a04b0f94bdc45ac1ec8d63ba/tumblr_mz56tnvhnt1tp8kdpo1_500.gif) and defuised right after because energy comsuption as ssj4 meant they couldnt stay fused for more than ten minutes
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Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 13, 2016, 09:46:30 pm
he is.

Nope, i prefer Vegetto too.
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Post by: Shocksconstant on November 13, 2016, 10:55:27 pm
 At least Gogeta can actually kill his opponents.
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Post by: Byakko on November 13, 2016, 11:07:51 pm
Not in canon !
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Post by: 地獄の花 on November 14, 2016, 12:14:24 pm
that is the point gogeta is the better choice if they're going for the time limit excuse and have him canonize it's the perfect situation to do that.
gogeta way more cooler than vegeto has an awesome soundtrack and he looks intimidating. plus stardust breaker?
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Post by: Niitris on November 14, 2016, 01:56:44 pm
They're both silly mixed-mash super warriors to me.

Do Goku and Vegeta even know how to do the Fusion Dance? In canon of course.
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Post by: Byakko on November 14, 2016, 02:11:50 pm
Vegetto is cooler than Gogeta, Gogeta doesn't even have a personality, he's literally a McGuffin. Stardust Breaker is lame.
(by the way, Vegetto did show he had a way to kill Buu, he didn't want to because everyone he absorbed was inside him)
Do Goku and Vegeta even know how to do the Fusion Dance? In canon of course.
Vegeta was nowhere around when Goku taught it to the kids, but after the last Buu fight and during the time skip, nothing's to say he never learned, at least by watching the kids. So no, in canon, he doesn't.
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Post by: Chronan on November 14, 2016, 07:44:14 pm
Wait a sec, if Vegetto is cooler, does that mean Gogeta is Freeza?

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on November 14, 2016, 07:45:41 pm
/\ HOLY SHIT MAN
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 14, 2016, 08:13:06 pm
you win the topic dad.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on November 15, 2016, 09:58:56 am
someone probably mentioned it but the manga's latest chapter is out
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on November 15, 2016, 10:16:24 am
What is the big deal? Gogetta is not canon. End of story.

About the potara earrings. The word Supreme Kai or just Kai sounded more like a status name and not a race name at some points. Zamasu switched bodies with Goku so he is basicly a Saiyan with the mind of a Kai. So he had to defuse too. Actually seeing how he is now, he is not what he is supposed to be. Even Elder kai fused with a witch who isn't a Kai. What if Goku was granted to be a Kai. Would the fusion last? I mean look at the potara earring colors. The one they use are yellow. Gowasu has green potara earrings. Maybe there are earrings wich allows everyone from every race to stay fused permanently. The one hour limit isn't bad. This means we can see Vegito more.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Greed- on November 15, 2016, 11:20:20 pm
It may not just have been immortal + non-immortal that caused Zamasu to fall apart, but but non-kaioshin + kaioshin.  That might have been screwing things up as well for Zamasu.  Who knows, I just want Spirit Bomb Sword in Xenoverse 2 now *shot*
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on November 15, 2016, 11:35:53 pm
I already forgot the exact dialog but I'm pretty sure Gowasu or universe 7 Kaiohshin explain that his immortality got wrecked by fusing a human (Saiyan) mortal body into Zamasu's post-wish immortal body.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on November 16, 2016, 09:06:01 pm
The one hour limit isn't bad. This means we can see Vegito more.

It's maybe not bad, but it was unnecessary, they already established that the Fusion could be broken with the help of porunga realy early in Super.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on November 16, 2016, 09:25:16 pm
The fusion is permanent only for Kaiohs and Kaioshins.

That's why Porunga could split Kibito and Shin again.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on November 16, 2016, 09:36:18 pm
Why would their fusion be less permanent than the one between Zamasu and Black
Also there's been nothing pointing to a THIRD level of fusion - one that lasts one hour, one that doesn't stop but can be broken by Polunga, and one that doesn't stop and can't be broken by a wish. The only thing we've seen would sooner point to the presence of one "shin" ("Shin" / our Kaiohshin or Zamasu) being enough for the fusion to be permanent, even if they're not both Kaiohshins.
(and why does our Shin not have a name of his own, it was already weird when there was the young one, the old one, and even the North/South/East/West in flashback)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on November 16, 2016, 09:39:41 pm
The fusion is permanent only for Kaiohs and Kaioshins.

That's why Porunga could split Kibito and Shin again.

No, that's not how it works. Dragon Ball wishes can split ANYONE fused with the potaras so Kaioshin being fused with Kibito is irrelevant to whether the Dragon Balls can split people or not.

The one hour limit isn't bad. This means we can see Vegito more.

Actually it means the opposite. There's practically no reason to ever bring him back again now that the fusion lasts for such a short amount of time due to SSB. In fact, the stronger Goku and Vegeta get, the more useless the fusion will become.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on November 16, 2016, 10:06:18 pm
My first thought about it was that it's definitely a reason to see him more, given that the main reason for Vegeta to refuse was precisely that it was permanent, it's the whole reason he crushed the original one. He jumped at the chance of not risking it again. The barrier of "being fused with Kakarotto ultimate shame" can obviously be cleared any time a new super demonic / divine threat appears and they have no other hope of being strong enough. If it's one hour, or even 10 minutes, it'll still be a big help.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on November 18, 2016, 04:01:47 pm
Are you guys still watching Super? cause we got title for the upcoming episodes for Super+A New Arc
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on November 18, 2016, 05:49:48 pm
I hope that promo art means Goku is gonna wear his new outfit again.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on November 18, 2016, 06:20:02 pm
They probably only went to their old outfits so that they didnt have to redesign Vegeto.


...and then they forgot that Vegeta was not wearing his armor when he first turned into vegetto.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on November 18, 2016, 06:26:52 pm
Are you guys still watching Super? cause we got title for the upcoming episodes for Super+A New Arc
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on November 18, 2016, 06:29:43 pm
Well, we actually see his face, so...

The logo is supposed to have been drawn there by Whis on that particular kimono. Goku is known to have a bajillion copies of his main outfit, but if that particular one gets damaged, he has to get a new one - which shouldn't have Whis' logo on it. So I don't really see how it would last long enough, unless Goku just decides to make all his kimonos have it. Not that he can't, considering he has changed the logo on his original outfit several times, but this one seems a little specific - for all we know, it was only a doodle to Whis, so it might be weird of Goku to adopt it like that as his current symbol.
I'm not putting too much money on this being anything more than stock portrait and they haven't even decided yet.

With Hit's big technique having been revealed in the tournament, at least this time we're sure it won't be just power levels and it'll go JoJo with weird unique techniques, but now what are they going to give him to make up for Goku having already beaten his time slip ?
.... It's going to be more power levels, isn't it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on November 18, 2016, 06:43:18 pm
Super sayan blue 3.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on November 18, 2016, 06:55:05 pm
Small update, that assasination arc could be just a standalone episode according to Herms. Due to lack of explicit word to indicate that is the start of the full fledged new story arc. Plus, they supposed to officially unveil the new story arc at Jump Fiesta, which is on the December 17-18.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on November 18, 2016, 07:06:12 pm
Super sayan blue 3.

How fast would that waste the god KI? xD
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Raikazu on November 18, 2016, 07:30:07 pm
Trunks whas using fucking hacks lol also im waiting what toriyama on the anime explains all that of the fusion because that would fuck off all if they don't explain anything.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on November 18, 2016, 07:33:49 pm
Small update, that assasination arc could be just a standalone episode according to Herms. Due to lack of explicit word to indicate that is the start of the full fledged new story arc. Plus, they supposed to officially unveil the new story arc at Jump Fiesta, which is on the December 17-18.
There should be a plot point about who ordered the hit, so it might segue into the next arc, which, hopefully, would be tied to universe 7.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on November 20, 2016, 05:15:35 am
About Episode 67... Pretty good.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on November 20, 2016, 08:45:01 am
I liked the ending to that arc.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on November 20, 2016, 08:07:00 pm
This arc was good stuff. Glad I caught up cause I was behind by like 6-7 episodes some time ago.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mark85 on November 20, 2016, 08:19:32 pm
yeah this arc was good,so we got 2 two Trunks and Mai according to Whis,Soo we got chance for Xenoverse and Online Storyline to be canon?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on November 21, 2016, 01:38:23 am
did this epsiode just made the official explanation wrong by making it beerus the one responsible of creating another timeline not by time travelling but by killing zamasu ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on November 21, 2016, 11:38:53 am
I think it's trying to imply that Beerus killing Zamasu was the cause of the loop, but it doesn't make much sense. It only means that if Beerus destroys a god, it's basically useless because it only creates a split timeline where the god wasn't destroyed. It's apparently their way of fixing their own fuck up by claiming the Zamasu that wasn't killed by Beerus went on to become Black, but it's still a grandfather paradox.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on November 21, 2016, 01:27:03 pm
Does this mean that it is not realy a timeline but some kind of Quantum universe thingy?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on November 24, 2016, 10:24:08 am
Manga chapter 18 is out in English, and there are a couple interesting details.

Everyone still figures out Zamasu is a loser for trying to use a world without a God of Destruction because it increased his chances, but at least now it's not because Zamasu lost to Goku and he's a shitty ass sore loser.
Gowasu mentions it's been a long time since someone called him by his name, meaning he's normally called Kaiohshin. So universe 7 Kaiohshin is the same case and he does have an actual name, we just haven't heard it. It was weird that he was the only one being called by his title, but if Gowasu hints that's normally his case too, it works out.
Skipping a whole trip to the future apparently (they have senzus), cool.
Goku doesn't kiss Chichi in the manga either. I hope that's just a joke and not a foreshadowing of anything stupid.
All the jokes. "Why did he pick you over me ?!" "Maybe he didn't want the nipples." "No wonder Saiyans went extinct !" "He's really grown up !"
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on November 24, 2016, 01:58:59 pm
Goku is so pure it's sickening. Kiss your wife next time you have sex, man!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on November 24, 2016, 03:14:06 pm
more like ignorant
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on December 01, 2016, 01:10:41 am
funimation announced the english cast:

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GOKU - Seán Schemmel
VEGETA - Christopher R. Sabat
BEERUS - Jason Douglas
WHIS - Ian Sinclair
KRILLIN - Sonny Strait
GOHAN - Kyle Hebert
BULMA - Monica Rial
PICCOLO - Christopher R. Sabat
TRUNKS - Alexis Tipton
NARRATOR - Doc Morgan
GOTEN - Kara Edwards
CHI-CHI - Cynthia Cranz
A18 - Meredith McCoy
MR. SATAN - Chris Rager
BUU - Josh Martin
KING KAI - Seán Schemmel
SHENRON - Christopher R. Sabat
VIDEL - Kara Edwards
YAMCHA - Christopher R. Sabat
TIEN - John Burgmeier
SHOU - Chris Cason
ROSHI - Mike McFarland
PUAR - Brina Palencia
PILAF - Chuck Huber
OX-KING - Kyle Hebert
OOLONG - Brad Jackson
MARRON - Tia Ballard
KIBITO KAI - Kent Williams
ELDER KAI - Kent Williams
DENDE - Justin Cook
CHIAOTZU - Brina Palencia
MAI - Colleen Clinkenbeard

pretty much all the returning voices from kai (with the exception of android 18, meredith mccoy is back to voicing her) are back, though i am surprised laura bailey got replaced as kid trunks
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: drewski90 on December 01, 2016, 01:17:52 am
so no other dubbing company would have a chance, huh? I'm only watching this dub only because of beerus and whis
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on December 01, 2016, 05:42:21 pm


English Dub preview
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mgbenz on December 04, 2016, 03:52:44 pm
It's amazing how much butthurt and "this show is ruined forever" the latest episode is producing.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 04, 2016, 05:50:05 pm
The worse part about yesterday's episode was that they had done it very recently for the kochikame event, except that it was the kochikame guy instead of arale, and he was trying to arrest people instead of play with them, the "it's a gag manga character" line was used as often as well.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on December 04, 2016, 11:09:09 pm
I liked the Arale episode, it's a decent change of pace.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on December 05, 2016, 01:02:51 am
Goku didn't really even fight Arale or do much of anything with her besides shoot a blast once. The title made it seem like at least there would be more screen time between the two but nope, disappointed to say the least.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on December 05, 2016, 10:43:20 am
lol arale's the best.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on December 10, 2016, 01:45:18 pm
Goku should have gone SSJ when charging his Kamehameha. SSB should be used in main Sagas.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on December 11, 2016, 03:50:38 am
Today's filler episode was cool, I have no regrets.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on December 11, 2016, 05:32:00 am
The ending had me choking, holy shit lmao
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 11, 2016, 06:06:33 am
Totally apropos to Yamcha.
It was hilarious.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: drewski90 on December 11, 2016, 06:40:13 am
what are your thoughts on the bang zoom dub?

me i thought goku's voice in the bang zoom dub should've belong to whis's voice as much it is goku, but the others do a pretty good job, just not goku's voice

bang zoom dub goes to toonami asia, while the funimation dub will go to toonami, it's see to premiere on january 7th at 8 p.m. and 11:30 p.m. alongside the dbz kai buu saga:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/olliebarder/2016/12/08/the-wait-is-over-dragon-ball-super-is-finally-coming-to-toonami-this-january/#74d44bd538cb

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-12-07/dragon-ball-z-kai-buu-saga-to-air-on-toonami/.109619
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on December 11, 2016, 08:25:07 am
This episode was great hahahaha.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 【MFG】gui0007 on December 11, 2016, 09:03:11 pm
The best filler episode i ever saw in DB. :)
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And about the Episode 71 Preview.
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Post by: Staubhold on December 11, 2016, 09:12:44 pm
Really funny episode. Go Yamcha!  :yaoming:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on December 12, 2016, 09:40:49 am
Episode preview for the 71 and 72 (No episode will be aired on 12/31 or 1/1, BTW.)
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/808152029205962752
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Dark Waifu on December 12, 2016, 09:48:44 am
Speaking of Yamcha
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/12/11-1/dragon-ball-spin-off-imagines-a-world-where-yamcha-totally-rules
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on December 12, 2016, 11:19:48 am
Speaking of Yamcha
http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/12/11-1/dragon-ball-spin-off-imagines-a-world-where-yamcha-totally-rules
I saw that on 4chan and thought it was a joke.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: DatKofGuy on December 13, 2016, 10:20:00 pm
First chapter is translated
http://imgur.com/a/b3WlL
I like it, I like it alot
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on December 14, 2016, 07:38:17 am
Oh shit, Dragon Garow Lee. He's the guy who did the Vegeta/Saitama crossover doujinshi.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on December 14, 2016, 02:41:43 pm
New story arc revealed, for now if it's unconfirmed is it the new arc that's supposed to reveal in this weekend. If you're fan of Gohan and a certain character we haven't seen in a long time. You're gonna like this and oh and provisional titles for episode 73+74.
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EDIT: The new arc may or may not be a real thing.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on December 14, 2016, 03:13:28 pm
Yeah, no. Not getting excited for Gohan. Nope. Not at all.




hype
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 14, 2016, 03:44:09 pm
without actually watching the video, just from the thumbnail, the arc is called "space survival arc". Sounds reasonable to assume it'll follow Hit's Goku assassination attempt.
But hey, there's also Roshi and Tien, it might be not much more than how it went in the Freeza revival arc. I'm more surprised that the last one is actually gonna get any screen time.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on December 14, 2016, 04:19:26 pm
FYI, Hit episodes are probably just 2 episodes long, after that. We will get a bunch of filler episodes before the next arc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 14, 2016, 04:29:16 pm
Oh, right, it says next February right there. Never mind, then.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 14, 2016, 04:33:38 pm
without actually watching the video, just from the thumbnail, the arc is called "space survival arc". Sounds reasonable to assume it'll follow Hit's Goku assassination attempt.
But hey, there's also Roshi and Tien, it might be not much more than how it went in the Freeza revival arc. I'm more surprised that the last one is actually gonna get any screen time.

Im far more surprised that "NAME REDACTED" is there, I didnt expect them to bring him back. It will be cool to see him interacting with Krilin.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 14, 2016, 04:36:13 pm
Yeah, that's who I meant :P
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on December 15, 2016, 04:14:26 am
If you want to know who hired Hit to assasinate Goku? Well, here's your answer. Major spoilers and you've been warned.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on December 15, 2016, 04:27:51 am
I can't believe Toriyama actually remembers that [REDACTED] exists! Or maybe someone else reminded him of that. Where's Lunch btw? :(
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on December 15, 2016, 04:39:22 am
I'm actually more surprised Toriyama/Toei actually remember that character's job. as seen on that person's outfit.

On side note, for those who are playing Dokkan Battle, can we have a thread of it?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on December 16, 2016, 03:16:54 am
If you want me to merge my previous post with this post, feel free to tell me. Because this is a big news. The synopsis for the next arc is out.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2016/12/15/dragon-ball-super-upcoming-universe-survival-arc-key-visual-synopsis-released/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on December 16, 2016, 12:33:54 pm
First chapter is translated
http://imgur.com/a/b3WlL
I like it, I like it alot

did he wish to go to namek and get his potential unlocked?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2016, 01:08:55 pm
Looks more like foreshadowing to me, I don't see how he could have come back. Maybe he simply trained seriously, knowing he was already capable of going up to the android saga. Too bad they skipped the rest of DB, with Tien and Piccolo, if he's going to make such a jump in power - it's like saying only the Saiyan and Namek sagas matter.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on December 16, 2016, 01:18:46 pm
Wasn't he only able to achieve that level of strength after he died and had to withstand Kaio's gravity and training? I don't see how he could achieve that level of strength training solely on Earth.

Yeah, I know I'm questioning a silly dream sequence.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: walt on December 16, 2016, 03:22:58 pm
Man, that was cool
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 16, 2016, 05:15:02 pm
Wasn't he only able to achieve that level of strength after he died and had to withstand Kaio's gravity and training? I don't see how he could achieve that level of strength training solely on Earth.

bulma can make better gravity rooms that don't require you to die (or teleport).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on December 16, 2016, 06:37:45 pm
And he probably trained extra hard and since he knew about the Dragon Ball Z story and what would happen, he could have asked Kami to allow him to use the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, something the Original Yamcha never did, and most chars in Dragon Ball not know about at that point of the story, and would "skip" a lot of Training in a "Short" time that way, that would explain how he could get so strong in such a short time.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 16, 2016, 07:38:29 pm
Ia lso tought about the chamber, but since he is a normal human that means he would be way older.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on December 16, 2016, 07:57:23 pm
Ah yeah, all of that would make sense.

My memory's still a bit fuzzy, I've only caught up to about the Namek saga.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on December 16, 2016, 09:56:48 pm
Ia lso tought about the chamber, but since he is a normal human that means he would be way older.

Why much older`? You just get max 2 years older since the time difference is one year in the chamber is one day in the normal world, and you can't be longer in that Chamber than 2 years chamber time/48h normal world Time, until it was improved in Super.

And there are afaik no other rules, so you don't get super old if you are a Human.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on December 16, 2016, 10:41:33 pm
Ia lso tought about the chamber, but since he is a normal human that means he would be way older.

Have you seen Yamcha in the latest episode of super? The man hasn't aged a day since the start of dragon ball and he's pushing pass 40 now. It almost like Toriyama forgot Yamcha's not a saiyan lol
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 16, 2016, 11:14:28 pm
Ia lso tought about the chamber, but since he is a normal human that means he would be way older.

Why much older`? You just get max 2 years older since the time difference is one year in the chamber is one day in the normal world, and you can't be longer in that Chamber than 2 years chamber time/48h normal world Time, until it was improved in Super.

And there are afaik no other rules, so you don't get super old if you are a Human.


if he went to the hperbolic chamber since the first torunament and only exited it for the saiyan saga that's several days and he is not immortal like roshi so he'd be hundreds of years now; unless the chaber can only be done once in a life time.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on December 16, 2016, 11:34:15 pm
if he went to the hperbolic chamber since the first torunament and only exited it for the saiyan saga that's several days and he is not immortal like roshi so he'd be hundreds of years now; unless the chaber can only be done once in a life time.

At this point of the timeline you can only stay max 2 Years in there in Chambertime, that means 2 Days in normaltime, after that you can't use it again if I get the Rules right.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on December 16, 2016, 11:46:51 pm
That chamber had rules all this time??? That completely went over my head all these years.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 16, 2016, 11:53:31 pm
Two people, two days max for any one person, yeah. That's why they didn't stay the whole week in there before Cell (well, at least Vegeta, Goku didn't even want to).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 17, 2016, 12:11:30 am
it had before Dende arrived, at this point the rules have been changed and its not clear how long they can stay there.

Note that the white space world that Whis uses seems to be the same thing minus housing and food.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 17, 2016, 12:19:00 am
and well, bsides being able to train 2 years worth in the middle of an arc is there any advantage of using the chamber to train ? I mean, if it does gravity bulma's room does that better, since it's adjustable.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 17, 2016, 12:51:14 am
I don't think it has gravity, but the living conditions are extreme, the weather keeps changing from freezing to burning (as in flames in the horizon) and it's supposed to make you mad. But nobody's feeling it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on December 17, 2016, 05:39:12 am
Wasn't the chamber rekt during the last arc by Vegeta?

BTW not anime related but since we don't have a Dragon Ball general thread...

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on December 17, 2016, 10:58:33 am
I don't think it has gravity, but the living conditions are extreme, the weather keeps changing from freezing to burning (as in flames in the horizon) and it's supposed to make you mad. But nobody's feeling it.

Mhh not sure about that point, the wiki says it has at the starting point it has 10 Times Earth's gravity like King Kai's planet, and that the conditions get harsher the deeper you go into it.

But not sure if the info is right since it is a Wiki, I would have to watch the original Series again or read the manga or some offical material to be sure about that point, since I forgot some details since the last time I have seen it. ^^
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 20, 2016, 07:00:54 pm
well, this episode was easily the best looking one in the series yet, not the best animated but the best looking, it almost feels like a different series.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on December 24, 2016, 04:42:53 pm
The animation and quality is dropping again. Watch the preview for tomorrow's Episode and you will see what I mean.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mark85 on December 24, 2016, 06:09:12 pm
actually it isn't bad,they need budget for new arc and it's just Naoki Tate,he is always like that
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 24, 2016, 06:11:29 pm
well, since it's brought up again, for dragon ball to be a long runing, weekly series, what they do is give it to a few different studios, I think it goes to at least 3, since their quality is different they are called the A,B , C studios so more important episodes are given to the A ones, while the filler is given to C studios, so the animation quality varies mostly depending on how important the episode is.

which also applies to one side of the criticism of episode 5(?), the first fight of goku vs bills that looked like shit. since it was the first fight, it shoudl ahve been given to the A studio but instead it was given to the c one,
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on December 25, 2016, 10:44:42 am
The latest chapter of the manga is out.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 27, 2016, 01:00:41 am
Just watched the latest episode, it's really good, it's finally taking that huge step outside of the power level ladder to make smart fights (I mean.... beside the part where he beat Hit by charging up his power and firing a beam, you know). That's a big evolution for Goku too, the blast thing at the beginning and this convoluted scheme he set up.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 27, 2016, 01:22:39 am
I made a post about how the way they set up who hired hit was so clever, as in, it was believable but had a dumb plothole that makes you think it's just toriyama being dumb again, but then the last revelation fills that plot hole pretty well; the direction kind of underutilized that, tho. dunno, once we got out of the movie recap  episodes this show has been pretty nice better than the average of Z.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Rebikio on December 29, 2016, 08:13:12 am
I have 1 question about Characters.

I haven't seen all DBZ movies, but Anyone know if "Broly" was add in the main story ?
Not parallel world, Not IF story.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on December 29, 2016, 08:53:11 am
Broly was movie-only.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on December 30, 2016, 01:13:09 pm
I have 1 question about Characters.

I haven't seen all DBZ movies, but Anyone know if "Broly" was add in the main story ?
Not parallel world, Not IF story.

he's not canon we all know by now it's bardock the legend was talking about and probably he's super saiyan god legend too.  he's cool looking but story ignores what a saiyan is.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 30, 2016, 01:39:31 pm
There's no reason to consider that the Bardock movie is more canon than the Broly movie. Also Vegeta said early on that the last "legendary Super Saiyan" appeared 1000 years ago, and it's unlikely that the entire Saiyan race popped up within a thousand years after Bardock landed on that planet, so there's likely to have been more than just Bardock.
As for Bardock being the previous SSGod, they said that he appeared by being given power from a few other Saiyans, and clearly Bardock is alone in the past.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on December 30, 2016, 02:08:46 pm
it's toriyama i'm sure he'll create a copout scenarios for everything, like dragonball minus cool it is to see goku's mom there's just too many inconsistency that one shot manga made in goku's origin.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on December 30, 2016, 02:16:19 pm
What inconsistencies
The only notable change is Goku's age, except he was only every seen as a baby after the Bardock movie, not in the manga.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on December 30, 2016, 02:51:43 pm
The Saiyans besides Goku and Vegeta we have seen (not including Gohan, Goten and Trunks) are side stories. Except Bardock and King Vegeta are background stories to give us a deeper look into their race. If Broly is uncanon, We can say the same about Turles and Vegeta's brother Tarble. Just side stories with no real connections.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on December 30, 2016, 03:51:13 pm
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cTTKNTWMk2g/Ux98hBNptAI/AAAAAAAAMxg/sNKj5xGtcrs/w1024-h768/Tarble%2BDerp.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on December 30, 2016, 05:05:34 pm
Wasn't that retconned by Super though?
I don't remember Tarble being referenced in the BoG arc.

If Broly is uncanon, We can say the same about Turles
Turles has never been relevant canon.

Honestly i think the rule is: if it came from a movie that isn't BoG or Resurrection:F, chances are it aint canon.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on December 30, 2016, 06:32:41 pm
There's no reason to consider that the Bardock movie is more canon than the Broly movie. Also Vegeta said early on that the last "legendary Super Saiyan" appeared 1000 years ago, and it's unlikely that the entire Saiyan race popped up within a thousand years after Bardock landed on that planet, so there's likely to have been more than just Bardock.
As for Bardock being the previous SSGod, they said that he appeared by being given power from a few other Saiyans, and clearly Bardock is alone in the past.

The first super saiyan ever / legendary super saiyan will be mirai trunks who traveled to 1000 years in the past, hopefully creating a paradox.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on January 03, 2017, 09:13:37 am
We are seeing many Super Saiyans. Maybe there were more Super Saiyans 1000 years ago like we now have in the current timeline.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on January 07, 2017, 02:25:57 am
Spoilers for DBS eps.74-77:
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/817522140232564738/photo/1

More fillers+first episode of the new arc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 07, 2017, 03:03:05 am
Hah ! Bra's coming after all. But how many months after Zamasu is that then ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: XamΣeta on January 08, 2017, 06:15:18 am
Dat Barry Khun dude looking like Suave Dude
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on January 08, 2017, 08:23:43 am
Nobuyuki Hiyama finally gets a role in Dragon Ball  :smitten:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on January 15, 2017, 05:38:20 am
I'm seriously starting to hate the American dbz fandom after I saw the comments for gohan's episode

"ey whats with this bitchass gohan"
"why is he still wearing those glasses?!"
"gohan is a bitch"

jesus,  is all they care about is new super saiyan forms, tfs memes and just overrated, cringy, edgy shit in general?

gohan's great saiyaman episodes were good fun and were good developments in his character, he's a family man and is a lot more human than the other saiyans that care about power levels, its nice to see a more relatable character to him.

not every moment in dbz needs to have "godly fights" or whatever, dbz isn't just about the muscle :/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on January 15, 2017, 05:41:15 am
Nobuyuki Hiyama finally gets a role in Dragon Ball  :smitten:

I never expected to hear him in DB.. First was the fuckin' amazing Shinchiro Miki, now "Demitri" Hiyama.. I wonder who will be the next awesome voice actor to get a role in DBS x)

(I hope to hear Ami Koshimizu getting a role in DB one day :3 )
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Prime SC on January 15, 2017, 06:11:20 am
I'm seriously starting to hate the American dbz fandom after I saw the comments for gohan's episode

"ey whats with this bitchass gohan"
"why is he still wearing those glasses?!"
"gohan is a bitch"

jesus,  is all they care about is new super saiyan forms, tfs memes and just overrated, cringy, edgy shit in general?

gohan's great saiyaman episodes were good fun and were good developments in his character, he's a family man and is a lot more human than the other saiyans that care about power levels, its nice to see a more relatable character to him.

not every moment in dbz needs to have "godly fights" or whatever, dbz isn't just about the muscle :/

I agree, i enjoyed the lil side story where goten and trunks go to that weird planet with manako and and he ends up being the hero. The saiyaman short is good so far to actually. I cant stand people that complain about the animation either like damn y cant you just enjoy it? But i will say trunks transformation has been my favorite ever so far just cuz of the emotion and the music that played hah
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on January 15, 2017, 02:31:00 pm
I realy liked the two Episodes, it's always good to see some character development for Gohan and also...

Yaaaaaay we will probably have "The Super Great Saiyaman" as an update in the current Dragon Ball Games, or in the new Games that will follow at some point. ;D
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on January 15, 2017, 03:26:27 pm
snip

The hypocrisy is pretty dumb too.
The fanbase is quick to shit on Goku for being such a garbage parent and now we have someone who actually gives a shit about his family, they shit on this character for not being all "fights for dayz yaassssss".
Its fucking dumb.

Loved this 2 parter. It showed how close the Gohan family are. From Videl having absolute faith to Gohan going all out for his family. Love it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 15, 2017, 07:52:02 pm
that's not hipocrisi, that's disliking two characters because both are extremists; goku would not mind risking his family's life if he gets to have a good fight, while gohan stays away from fighitng and training even though it's been proven that he has the potential of keeping his family safe, because he does not like training.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 15, 2017, 07:59:33 pm
Sounds like someone should make a thesis about why these guys think they're Dragon Ball fans then. Because there really isn't much inbetween these two.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 16, 2017, 05:17:55 am
the pv looks very nostalic, so nostalgic it reminded me krillin used to be an asshole.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 16, 2017, 02:45:50 pm
He's the flawed monk archetype of martial arts movies, an archetype that tienshinhan fleshed out further when he was introduced ( and krilin had been made a normal sidekick character by then)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on January 18, 2017, 08:19:54 pm
First look at a new God of Destruction and his angel and the arena.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: DatKofGuy on January 18, 2017, 09:33:14 pm
Liking them android designs
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on January 19, 2017, 12:05:16 am
It occurs to me that over the years, Toriyama seems to have picked up a growing affection for tracksuits that might be replacing his angular god outfits.

The shirt and vest with pearls outfit (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/1/11/Android18SemiPerfectCellSaga.png/revision/latest?cb=20100521154911) was always my favorite design for 18, but this isn't bad.  Kinda uninspired after Gohan doing it first, but hey.  Can't say I'm a fan of 17's change of outfit, but see if it grows on me, I ended up liking that purple look 18 had going in Battle of Gods after a while.

New god's funny looking, nothing special about his assistant at all though.  Some greater variety between them would be nice, even if they have to keep their signature uniforms.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sookoll on January 19, 2017, 12:24:54 am
18 looks like a gopnik Sayla now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on January 20, 2017, 11:00:00 am
that's not hipocrisi, that's disliking two characters because both are extremists; goku would not mind risking his family's life if he gets to have a good fight, while gohan stays away from fighitng and training even though it's been proven that he has the potential of keeping his family safe, because he does not like training.

Goku didn't risk his family's life during Dragonall Z. He even didnt want his friends to wish him back after Cell's defeat. It was to have peace on earth as all villains are chasing him. His determination is somehow for the earth, his friends and family. Goku was also a wise character but, also funny wich made him Great. He trained and battled with some purposes. Dragonball and Dragonball Z has a humanish Goku with human feelings. Dragonball Super made Goku overconfident and somehow silly. He was human in Z and he is a Saiyan in Super who just wants to fight and get stronger. Super makes him only care about getting stronger. Just like Saiyans are. Z was around Everyone and Super isn't. Goku's friends became fillers and aren't developing together in the story as much as in Z.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on January 21, 2017, 05:05:07 am
i was expecting a park ranger outfit.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on January 21, 2017, 02:19:51 pm
i was expecting a park ranger outfit.

He has Ranger written on his armband that will do it for now. ^^
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Moon Girard on January 22, 2017, 01:55:26 am
Teaser for the next Arc shows off some opponents, Gods of Destruction's and Angel's

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 22, 2017, 02:04:15 am
Oh wow lol yeah, it seems that's exactly what that's going to be. Glorious.
Also looking forward to Kienzan being worthless again and never being used to actually cut someone and end a fight in one shot.
Music seems nice, but why did they bring back Frost ? I can imagine they didn't want to create a new character and then ditch him like that, so what, is he going to actually evolve as a character ? Hit did make leaps forward as a character after all.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on January 22, 2017, 02:04:48 am
Wait... Is that a ..

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on January 22, 2017, 02:05:50 am
Now see, that's specifically what I was asking for out of the Angels, some of those are eye catching and unique.

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

Also I support the idea for Buggy the Clown evolving into godhood, good for him.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on January 22, 2017, 02:21:38 am
LOOOL, I've noticed now. There's a "Joker" and a "Harley Quinn" in this trailer XD
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on January 22, 2017, 02:26:09 am
i liked how they came up with actually interesting designs for the other universes instead of doing the whole edgy "godly epic power" villain bullshit like soooo many dbz fanboys try to come up with
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 22, 2017, 03:05:01 am
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she literally has his earrings, im dead.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on January 22, 2017, 03:42:03 am
Oh wow lol yeah, it seems that's exactly what that's going to be. Glorious.
Also looking forward to Kienzan being worthless again and never being used to actually cut someone and end a fight in one shot.
Music seems nice, but why did they bring back Frost ? I can imagine they didn't want to create a new character and then ditch him like that, so what, is he going to actually evolve as a character ? Hit did make leaps forward as a character after all.

yeah, I guess the frieza arc won't be a waste if they recycle the "freezer people can become really strong with some training" thing.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on January 22, 2017, 06:03:19 am
I thought that was like exclusive to freeza though?

Still Toriyama's a madman for making a canon female Broly, I bet H artist are in a frenzy rejoicing lol
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: ShinZankuro on January 22, 2017, 06:05:43 am
I just hope to hear the new opening music sooner. For the preview, it sounds nice af.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sima Shi on January 22, 2017, 06:39:57 am
feminized Broly...



HOLY!! i can dig with it :v


that twin tail angel....... she's cute lol
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Moon Girard on January 22, 2017, 08:46:58 am
Here's a better quality version
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on January 22, 2017, 10:43:31 am
That Clown God looks terrifying but the twintail angel with him is cute.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on January 22, 2017, 11:38:32 am
Episode 75: It was a Great Episode centered around Krillin. If they want to make Krillin stronger, he should have entered the Time Chamber. That is the only way to give him a good power boost. But there is a chance he might get that secret skill from Master Roshi wich boosts the energy after the errand for the herb is done. Gohan's fight with Goku was also enjoyable. I really want to know what will make these 2 enter the Tournament Arc. Gohan and Krillin both have a family and We keep hearing they gave up on fighting. I wonder what make's them fight in the Tournament Arc. It looks like they will change their minds at the same time and fight again.

Tournament Arc Trailer: It was entertaining. I like it alot. Yes, We see a female Saiyan wich resembles the transformed Broly but, it's atleast good to see a female Saiyan wich transforms into a Super Saiyan. Her face and eyes in base form looks also like Base Broly and Caba. Also, some Gods are interesting. Especially the ones referenced as The Joker and Harley Queen. I want to see how these Gods and Angels are compared to Beerus and Whis.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on January 22, 2017, 12:36:03 pm
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she literally has his earrings, im dead.

its actually a genius move lazy but genius, fans wanted female super saiyan fans wanted broly toriyama wants female super saiyan to be special boom we've broyla
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 22, 2017, 07:50:29 pm
A version of the video with more quality is floating about so here's a clearer look at the gods.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on January 22, 2017, 08:08:58 pm
Mh maybe it's nothing but the Angel of the "Fluffy" god of destruction has no Halo around his neck, not sure if it is just a design thing or if it could mean something.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on January 22, 2017, 10:17:19 pm
Ahh, looks like there's an antagonist standing next to Joker and Harley.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: DatKofGuy on January 23, 2017, 07:57:18 am
A version of the video with more quality is floating about so here's a clearer look at the gods.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Everyone going on about twin tails and femme broly and I'm here looking at that female God of Destruction on the top left.. more egyptian inspiration?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on January 23, 2017, 08:23:15 am
Mh maybe it's nothing but the Angel of the "Fluffy" god of destruction has no Halo around his neck, not sure if it is just a design thing or if it could mean something.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sima Shi on January 23, 2017, 09:01:33 am
inb4 many doujin and fanfics after they saw le trailer....
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Erroratu on January 23, 2017, 10:01:17 am
A version of the video with more quality is floating about so here's a clearer look at the gods.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Hype for the pink version of Girimehkala
Hopefully it shoots ki blasts from its trunk
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Rebikio on January 23, 2017, 10:05:52 am
25 days ago, I wanted to see Broly and
I didn't expected to see him too soon but it seems Broly change into different person.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Erroratu on January 23, 2017, 12:32:08 pm
I got a server error while posting and it seems that somehow doubled both my and Rebikios posts
Sorry bout that
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 23, 2017, 12:57:04 pm
It was a wave of error 402something, it got you both and everyone else, it's not just you, don't worry.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: kenshiro99 on January 23, 2017, 02:02:03 pm
This DBS saga promises to be the coolest of all, I just hope the quality of the animation is better
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on January 23, 2017, 05:08:44 pm
is that a human god of destruction?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on January 23, 2017, 10:03:15 pm
is that a human god of destruction?

The Female one? Mh maybe but probably just a Race that looks Human, would be fun if she is a Tsufuru-jin. :3
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 23, 2017, 10:07:01 pm
All humanoid, sentient races are called "humans" so yeah. Since you probably mean from Earth, let's first make sure if there is an Earth in the other universes. There was one in 6 because of the mirror universes thing, but the others should be just completely different, so I don't expect them to have an Earth. Not that it makes a lot of difference, it'll just be an excuse to show many different civilizations, I reckon.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on January 23, 2017, 11:04:39 pm
But I think it could be possible that anyone who is Strong enough can become the God of destruction of a different Universe, because of the fact that Beerus and Champa are brothers but gods of different universes, because it would be a little odd if gods are created in a different way and only Beerus and Champa are different in some way.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 24, 2017, 07:05:13 pm
Latest manga chapter is out in English, and they bring up the Mafuuba. I'm curious to see how the manga will handle that failure compared to the anime...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on January 26, 2017, 05:03:46 pm
Just watched the latest episode, it's really good, it's finally taking that huge step outside of the power level ladder to make smart fights (I mean.... beside the part where he beat Hit by charging up his power and firing a beam, you know). That's a big evolution for Goku too, the blast thing at the beginning and this convoluted scheme he set up.
to me the whole episode felt stupid and it's what made me finally drop super for good. i couold have believed the part where goku would go all "i've figured out how your technique works" bullshit everytime hit used it if he had actually done somehting interesting to beat it rather than just scream and increase his ki like he does every damn time! also, the plot for the episode was stupid and that reveal at the end pretty much felt like this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkj0F3gEkFU&feature=youtu.be&t=5m49s) (best version i could find)

i had more than enough dragon ball in my youth but i always come back for more expecting somethign new and exciting only to get more of the same but done worse. enjoy your tournament arc... now with even MORE fucking saiyans!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 26, 2017, 05:21:32 pm
The universe survival arc has Tien, Roshi, Krillin, #17 and #18 make a comeback, and the other universes only show genderflipped Broly and Cabba, the rest seems to be mostly animal-looking races. Well, it's 10 fighters for 12 universes so I don't expect a lot of them to pass the qualification rounds or however the tournament will be set up, but at least we should see them in action through a couple of fillers, and the non-Saiyans of universe 7 imply that we'll get more variety in techniques (since Tien, Krillin and Piccolo are known for making up the weirdest techniques).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Wolf on January 26, 2017, 05:33:20 pm
well, piccolo was in the previous tournament and did squat (he tried to do soemthing but did nothing in the end). heck, they flat out tell him he would lose before he even got in the ring.

i really wanted to like super it's just not doing it for me :(
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on January 29, 2017, 11:24:07 am
Great to see Krillin with his fighting spirit back. At the end of the Episode it would be much better and meaningful if he said "Goku! Turn into a Super Saiyan this time" instead the "Goku! No Super Saiyan transformation" line again. That would show us how much stronger he got before The Tournament.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Chronan on January 29, 2017, 09:15:24 pm
So is the new arc starting this coming week then? I'll be happy to have 17,18,Piccolo, and some non-saiyans doing something! I guess Dragon Ball is still the best for that atm. Krillin and Tien need to become Super Humans Gods or something and be more relevant.

Wasn't a huge fan of the Krillin ?fillers?, they made him out to be a pussy personality-wise, understandably so since he's outclassed by every bad guy, but I never got that vibe from Krillin character in DBKai who knew he was outclassed but still did what he could or tried to help. I was annoyed when they did that to him in the Golden Freeza arc as well.  Seems like it'd be more of a Yamcha character trait.

Loved the Saiyaman episodes though they were good fun. I'm actually working a Cocoa Amaguri SSj5 Character for Mugen as we speak!
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Xhominid on January 29, 2017, 09:40:38 pm
So is the new arc starting this coming week then? I'll be happy to have 17,18,Piccolo, and some non-saiyans doing something! I guess Dragon Ball is still the best for that atm. Krillin and Tien need to become Super Humans Gods or something and be more relevant.

Wasn't a huge fan of the Krillin ?fillers?, they made him out to be a pussy personality-wise, understandably so since he's outclassed by every bad guy, but I never got that vibe from Krillin character in DBKai who knew he was outclassed but still did what he could or tried to help. I was annoyed when they did that to him in the Golden Freeza arc as well.  Seems like it'd be more of a Yamcha character trait.

Loved the Saiyaman episodes though they were good fun. I'm actually working a Cocoa Amaguri SSj5 Character for Mugen as we speak!

Except Krillin has a reason to suddenly gain a complex after all these years.

Technically he retired at the Buu saga, he stopped training specifically because he knew he wouldn't get any stronger than he would now. This is on top of the fact that the enemies just keep getting stronger and stronger on top of his fears of his enemies(He got scared in Resurrection of F because of Frieza...who killed him. Despite being WAY stronger than him, Tambourine is still the first person who killed him and very easily at that as he was still a kid at the time and Super Buu not only killed him but his whole family) is actually very reasonable.

Alot of things can change within the years and Krillin's complex could have easily grown throughout DBZ despite how much he leaps into the fray regardless.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cyanide on January 30, 2017, 08:11:46 am
Started watching this recently and yeesh. All the traits from DBZ have been made a bit ridiculous. Goku is almost TFS level of stupid now. Gohan has completely stopped trying at all.  Goten and Trunks seem to be there just to get beaten up before Goku shows. Picollo has been relegated to grandpa status.

I will probably continue but fuck me if everyone feels like they've not grown at all as characters.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Neocide on January 30, 2017, 09:35:24 am
At least vegeta has developed massively lol.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mistah Jorge on January 30, 2017, 09:44:26 am
Anyone else has memes and references on their language?
Or is it only my dragon ball super language getting memed on?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Prime SC on January 30, 2017, 10:13:25 am
i think goku has gotten smarter battle wise atleast. just wait till you ge deeper in the show cyanide
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on January 30, 2017, 10:50:25 am
Goku is almost TFS level of stupid now.
It looks like Toriyama just went full steam with that idea he brought up some time ago in Dragon Ball Minus : Saiyans don't normally feel things like love and familial bonds. Being a warrior race, they don't stick around in a single civilization, there's less than a thousand of them on the planet at the same time because otherwise they'd slaughter each other. Bardock and Gine were an exception, actually being in love with each other. Toriyama also mentioned that Goku's feelings for Chichi and Gohan were more like "very close friends" than how we view a family. He gets mad when they're hurt, just like when Krillin is killed, but not as a real family.
And so, Super has been dropping hints about that all over the place (never kissed Chichi, didn't care about Gohan's movie debut and fell asleep in the middle, etc.) I certainly wouldn't call that stupid, and I'm curious to see if Toriyama will actually carry through with this or if he'll just leave it as simple hints sprayed here and there. Meeting U6 "nice guys" Saiyans just might put the highlight on this through Vegeta.
In that regard, Vegeta going "don't hurt my Bulma" crazy on Beerus, and then encouraging Future Trunks to protect his woman, is far more human-like than Goku who is the most Saiyan-like. That one is being made pretty obvious, and that's really big character development. It's just a massive shift from the standard "hero Goku, stupid ego Vegeta" we had in Z. Hell, we might circle back to Vegeta's old disdain for the low-born Goku because Goku is standard loveless battle-crazed Saiyan while Vegeta is the more complex one.
Also combat-wise Goku is getting really damn smart.

As for Gohan, it seems like they're simply giving him an arc of balancing his work, family, and combat - they hinted that he started training again. Krillin just had the exact same arc in two episodes so it's more obvious for him, Gohan has just been taking the really long way around that.

Anyone else has memes and references on their language?
Or is it only my dragon ball super language getting memed on?
I think it's just your sub team.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 30, 2017, 02:17:24 pm
Super been fine so far tome, it has done a ton of world building, which was one of the major gripes I had with the series before. Its also focusing a lot of energy with jokes and gags, which again, is right up my alley.

It still ha the main flaw it always had, the plots are not complex enough and it ends up giving away things too easily.

All the people complaining about power levels would make for boring writers!!! Bringing in Roshi into these battles was a great move.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on January 30, 2017, 11:32:02 pm
The Forest Of Terror was kinda good. A good place for more training in the future. Imagine Yamcha going there. All he would encounter is Saibaman. Also, talking about power levels isn't really necessary so I agree. Krillin, Tien and Roshi are good answers for that as they will be fighting in The Tournament.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on January 31, 2017, 01:13:51 am
The Forest Of Terror was kinda good. A good place for more training in the future. Imagine Yamcha going there. All he would encounter is Saibaman.
And probably Dr. Gero.^^
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mistah Jorge on January 31, 2017, 02:58:07 am
Anyone else has memes and references on their language?
Or is it only my dragon ball super language getting memed on?
I think it's just your sub team.
I know that... but holy shit, they even made fun of Jorge Jesus once out of nowhere XD (Not sure if you guys know him, he's known for being one of the funniest trainers in the futball/soccer, he even tried to say 88 in spanish he said something like oichencha e ocho)

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Cyanide on January 31, 2017, 08:27:04 am
Powerlevels have been bullshit for ages. You had to stop paying attention to those during the buu saga or you'd go nuts.

Still don't like the characterisations. I look back at goku's selflessness over the course of DBZ and it's just not here. Honestly, for the first time i'd prefer Vegeta was in the limelight. Over the course of DBZ i considered him a complete idiot and the reason for half the problems they had. In this, he's actually interesting, but they've kinda turned him into DBZ piccolo.

I am on the zamasu arc right now. Start of this is boring as fuck. Hoping it picks up a bit, the tournament was pretty interesting.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on January 31, 2017, 05:11:46 pm
Tournament had actually one of my favorite bits of characterization for Goku,

Hit tells him that they are the God's playthings.
Goku replies "For now.".  Thats actually really close to the whole Monkey King origin mentality,

What were your favorite bits of the tournament?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on January 31, 2017, 08:05:54 pm
Powerlevels have been bullshit for ages. You had to stop paying attention to those during the buu saga or you'd go nuts.
I always said that power levels stopped mattering when scouters(or any other power reading equipment) stopped being able to read them in a fashion such as with numbers, which is near the end of the Freeza Saga.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on January 31, 2017, 11:12:07 pm
Even with scouters they were bullshit. Like Vegeta and then later GInyu said, relying on the readings that a scouter gives only throws you off (but even GInyu loses his shit when he sees a 180k reading).

Though I do like how the first and last readings for scouters are both 5.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 01, 2017, 09:25:50 pm
With the return of Frieza We have seen Sorbet using the scouter. It makes me really wonder why they never got to update those scouters as his explodes aswell.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on February 01, 2017, 10:30:16 pm
I never understood why the scouters exploded anyway, and don't just show are error message. xD
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on February 01, 2017, 10:37:36 pm
Explosions = Power
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on February 01, 2017, 10:51:21 pm
Even with scouters they were bullshit. Like Vegeta and then later GInyu said, relying on the readings that a scouter gives only throws you off (but even GInyu loses his shit when he sees a 180k reading).

Though I do like how the first and last readings for scouters are both 5.
Well, if that's the case, concealing power only really mattered once anyone being read realized that they needed to conceal it in the first place. That would mean that scouters were useless as of the Z-fighters meeting Nappa and Vegeta. In fact, I think Vegeta mentioned it shortly after they met the others face to face.  Though now that I think about it, the scouters did bring up something interesting when Jeice read Ginyu-Goku's power level. Being that it capped out after whatever it was, brought up that there may have been different types of power generation, potentially similar to how "god" ki can't be easily read by someone other than a god without proper training.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 01, 2017, 11:01:20 pm
the scouters did bring up something interesting when Jeice read Ginyu-Goku's power level. Being that it capped out after whatever it was, brought up that there may have been different types of power generation, potentially similar to how "god" ki can't be easily read by someone other than a god without proper training.
Uh no, that was just very explicitly saying that Ginyu even in Goku's body was unable to bring out Goku's power the same way as him. That has nothing to do with how no one (except gods) can feel the god ki, different forms of energy or such.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Hoshi on February 01, 2017, 11:47:32 pm
Uh no, that was just very explicitly saying that Ginyu even in Goku's body was unable to bring out Goku's power the same way as him. That has nothing to do with how no one (except gods) can feel the god ki, different forms of energy or such.
Ah. Maybe I missed that part. It's been half a decade since I had seen or read that portion of DBZ.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 01, 2017, 11:56:47 pm
Goku used Kaiohken in the fight against the Ginyu Force, Ginyu saw that power and wanted to take it, but when he switched, he didn't know how to actually use Kaiohken. I think Vegeta made fun of him for not thinking of how hard Goku had trained for that multiplier, talking about taking over the body but not the heart, or something along those lines. I remember it wasn't phrased too well, but in context just after Kaiohken, it was pretty obvious.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 03, 2017, 02:57:00 am
Isn't the kaoken a multiplier boost sort move? How is it read or detectable if it isnt actually a true power level? Only power within The Characters are readable maybe.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 03, 2017, 03:50:48 am
no, the scooters detect the current power level, not the latent, potentail or whatever thing you want to imply. transformations, multipliers and even pulling out a fucking gun are enough to modify the power level reading.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 03, 2017, 10:17:07 am
I have no idea how you could possibly come up with the idea that a multiplier can't be read by the scouters. The first fight that has Kaiohken against Nappa and Vegeta shows them see his power explode when he uses it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 03, 2017, 05:22:33 pm
yah, iirc the very first example of scooter usage is a guy having a level of 1 then pull out a shotgun and have his level skyrocket to like 6
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on February 03, 2017, 05:30:23 pm
Goku can surpass his current power limit by just wielding a shotgun.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mark85 on February 03, 2017, 05:44:22 pm
Does that mean clothes also make the power levels bigger?
wow,what a bullshit.

Isn't the kaoken a multiplier boost sort move? How is it read or detectable if it isnt actually a true power level?

I started to doubt that its a multiplier,since Goku can't even come close to Beerus with KaiokenX10 Blue or Beerus is strong as he needs to be?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on February 03, 2017, 06:41:39 pm
What? but its been stated many times now that Kaioken multiplies the users power by how ever many X's they can manage hence the X2, X3, X10 etc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 03, 2017, 07:21:41 pm
goku can't surpass beerus because beerus is that much stronger than goku.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 03, 2017, 08:36:23 pm
yah, iirc the very first example of scooter usage is a guy having a level of 1 then pull out a shotgun and have his level skyrocket to like 6
Just checked to make sure, the farmer had his shotgun before Raditz came out, his power level was 5 from start to finish. I really don't think weapons and cloths affect the power level. But Kaiohken definitely does, I'm pretty sure that the Ginyu fight shows Jeice pissing himself watching Goku go red (and then Ginyu in Goku's body doesn't grow as strong because he's not using Kaiohken).
As for Beerus, he actually gave a percentage of the power he used to hold off SSJGod Goku. Checked that too, Whis says Beerus used nearly 70% of his power. And going Blue still wasn't enough - which is a little odd since SSJ multiplier is like 50, right ? So SSGod to SSBlue should normally have the same multiplier... Unless it doesn't, or unless that 70% number was retconned since the movie (dunno if the anime repeated it). Makes you wonder why they even invented the Blue form in the first place.
Also SSBlue + Kaiohken is anime filler garbage, don't even take it into account in any calculation.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 03, 2017, 08:46:46 pm
The seventy percent number was revealed by whis to be a lie, when he compares their power output( a tree vs a palace), Beerus was apparently just lying to get Goku invested into the fight.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on February 03, 2017, 09:19:30 pm
Also SSBlue + Kaiohken is anime filler garbage, don't even take it into account in any calculation.

The Super Anime is as much canon as the Super Manga right now since Toriyama is more involved in the anime afaik, and gives both teams a guideline how the story has to evolve etc.

So you can't just say something is just "filler garbage" as long Toriyama don't says that one of the both is "less" canon.

Sooo if Toriyama said at some point that one is canon and the other one is not, then please show me, because right now we just have the rare case that we can't be sure unless the Author says it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 03, 2017, 10:03:18 pm
Toriyama is more involved in the anime afaik
No he's not. Someone here posted that rumor before but that just came from nowhere, I haven't seen any hint to that anywhere. So I'm calling bullshit on that rumor. Toyotaro said he gets the same script as Toei at the same time, and they both fill out the blanks in their own way. That is what they said.
Toei simply reused something they already made up for filler back in the days to make it make sense, and even though Toyotaro does make some changes from what the anime does (since he comes after) and makes some adaptations, it's just ridiculous to suggest he would have skipped SSBlue Kaiohken if that was something coming straight from Toriyama, giving how massively important it would be. So it's definitely not from Toriyama's script, and we know what little credit we can give the anime. You can bet your ass Toriyama's script simply said "Goku cycles through his forms and increases his power until he can break through Hits trap". SSBlue Kaiohken is anime filler garbage just like it was back in Z.

The seventy percent number was revealed by whis to be a lie, when he compares their power output( a tree vs a palace), Beerus was apparently just lying to get Goku invested into the fight.
Ah, right, I forgot that.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 04, 2017, 02:26:06 am
The Manga and Anime are different. Akira Toriyama only cares about The Manga. He only commented once about Dragonball Super's quality as he was not happy with it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on February 04, 2017, 06:27:20 am
Dragon Ball Super OP2 screenshots  (http://moca-news.net/article/20170204/2017020414000a_/01/)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 05, 2017, 03:34:54 am
The drawings and style is so Great in the new Episode. If you think about it, several months passed by if you see how big Bulma's belly is  now because her pregnancy. It could be possible that fighters trained and became much stroger while Bulma was pregnant.  If that is the case, We might have flashbacks in the tournament about their training.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 05, 2017, 04:15:00 am
lol they did press on the bit with Goku being oblivious to family bond with that "who cares ? You're not the one giving birth !" while Vegeta does actually care.
And that heavily somber foreshadowing of a clash between Beerus and Goku... Between this and the family thing, that's a big promise for character development and exposition to come. Goku might actually start being seen as a legit threat. But then again, the God of Destruction is one to talk... It's in the job description - and it's actually becoming believable that Goku might become just as fearsome as Beerus was the first time he showed up, as the next god of destruction.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on February 05, 2017, 04:30:33 am
hope there's a future plan for the two female saiyans. what's the point of having them if they're gonna treat them like they did to goten.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 05, 2017, 04:31:48 am
Two ? What two female Saiyans ? Isn't there just the female Broly one ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on February 05, 2017, 04:59:36 am
Pan and Bra, perhaps?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 05, 2017, 05:01:44 am
That would be after we've caught up with the end of the manga though, with Uub. Nowhere close to now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 05, 2017, 05:08:30 am
and it's actually becoming believable that Goku might become just as fearsome as Beerus was the first time he showed up, as the next god of destruction.

goku ascending to godhood is a very recurrent theme in dragon ball, dunno why.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 05, 2017, 05:12:56 am
Maybe because Journey to the West, like Iced ( I think) said earlier.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Prototype God on February 05, 2017, 09:50:29 am
I've been reading online about an apparent change of directors for Dragonball Super that was put into place starting with episode 77, and if that episode is any indication the Super Anime might start getting a lot better.
I mean, I doubt the animation is going to be that much more consistent if at all, since it's Toei, but a guy can dream.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mgbenz on February 05, 2017, 02:03:00 pm
Everyone now has to fight for their universes all because Goku wants fights. Is Goku the real villain of this series? Him and Vegeta pretty much switched roles. Vegeta mellowed out into a family man while Goku gets more and more fight obsessed. Even Beerus of all people is saying he's going too far.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 05, 2017, 03:03:48 pm
lol they did press on the bit with Goku being oblivious to family bond with that "who cares ? You're not the one giving birth !" while Vegeta does actually care.
And that heavily somber foreshadowing of a clash between Beerus and Goku... Between this and the family thing, that's a big promise for character development and exposition to come. Goku might actually start being seen as a legit threat. But then again, the God of Destruction is one to talk... It's in the job description - and it's actually becoming believable that Goku might become just as fearsome as Beerus was the first time he showed up, as the next god of destruction.

The whole thing with him fucking off to go convince the gods to host the tournament and becoming responsible for a tournament set off where people are going to die is very akin the monkey king thing, Goku fucked up and seems like he needs to learn a lesson.

Wonder if theyll bury him under a mountain
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 05, 2017, 03:29:34 pm
Goku has the right to f.ck things up and fix it. He has these rights as a main hero.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on February 05, 2017, 04:01:40 pm
Nobodies talking about how a mere hand gun actually scratched Goku. I understand that he hasn't been training quite as much lately but thats taking things pretty far isn't? I thought it was silly in the previous episode for Krillin to get a cut from a bullet but even Goku's vulnerable when caught off guard now? This before he decides he wants to fight in a big tournament with powerful people all over the multiverse and somehow win.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 05, 2017, 04:10:37 pm
but even Goku's vulnerable when caught off guard now?
That's not new. Remember he got nearly killed by the basic Freeza army peashooter because he was shot by surprise. He also feels pain from getting slapped by Chichi or Bulma or whoever. We've talked about this before. If they're not paying attention, their skin is the same as anyone else's.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: AlexSin on February 05, 2017, 04:35:17 pm
In DBZ before the Cell games when Goku was relaxing in his SSJ form, Krillin threw a rock at him and Goku felt pain, just another example to add to the list.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on February 05, 2017, 04:40:14 pm
Shoot did forget about that. I guess we paint him in such a ridiculous light some times the thought that a mere human hurting him seems impossible but as it turns quick sniper fire when he's not looking may just in fact kill him
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 05, 2017, 04:52:10 pm
(http://static7.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/124813/2567938-kid_goku_tanks_sniper_to_the_face___copy.jpg)
He has always been at least hurt by bullets, his skin is just thick so he doesnt get holes on him like the other humans do.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mgbenz on February 05, 2017, 07:01:20 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/18155eq.jpg)

Yup definitely going to be the big bad.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sookoll on February 05, 2017, 08:02:42 pm
He looks really sinister in the new opening.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 06, 2017, 11:45:37 am
Did anyone notice Gohan in the new opening? It looks like he got his powers back. This means they can boost and give him more power in the tournament. He can rage, get angry and even have a new transformation.

(http://i.imgur.com/A0puHIT.png)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 06, 2017, 11:49:20 am
Check the opening lyrics ( and the ending ones)

Are they meant to be Goku talking?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Mark85 on February 06, 2017, 12:37:35 pm
ending lyrics tells Zamasu
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on February 06, 2017, 10:30:23 pm
Is it bad that for a few seconds I actually wanted Beerus to destroy Goku?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 06, 2017, 11:07:07 pm
Zamasu as Goku Black was good but, Zamasu as himself, Kai was weak. I didn't like his attitude. I mean, he was kinda evil and all but, his voice wasn't fitting. He was evil with a peacefull voice. I also believe that Zamasu isn't dead as there is a problem with one of the Omni Kings. I agree with a video theory. When the two Omni's cross over each other in the opening, they turn green for a second. That could be Zamasu's color. Remember when the two Omni's raise their hands when Goku asks about the tournament, the future Omni King tries to match his hand with the current Omni King. What if that is Zamasu inside The Omni King?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on February 08, 2017, 09:43:51 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4KjGG0WQAA6cu9.jpg)

From what I've heard from several people, it looks like the newspaper is real.

And the best part about it, we don't know anything about that character yet.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on February 09, 2017, 08:08:57 am
Double cause why not.

First look at Universe 9 Fighters
https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/829574413578219520

Translated episode summaries coming soon. So expect me to edit this post later.

Edit : Here's the Jump preview for ep 79
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/829588063181381634

And Preview for upcoming episodes
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/829602714262712321
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: YugaCurry on February 09, 2017, 09:11:56 am
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty

From what I've heard from several people, it looks like the newspaper is real.

And the best part about it, we don't know anything about that character yet.

These are the same fools who got the name Krishna (hindu deity) removed from X Men Apocalyse, when Apocalypse calls himself several names. Being a Christian who was earlier a hindu, living here in India I see these religious outbursts all the time and its always political propaganda. The common hindus have no objection to it and enjoy Dragon Ball as much as the next guy. I hope like Fox, Toei doesn't give in to such outrageous outcries.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on February 09, 2017, 09:40:34 pm
Btw. isn't Ganesha supposed to have six Arms? Sometimes a anthropomorphic pink Elephant is just a anthropomorphic pink Elephant, even if Ganesha is a inspiration for the character, it is still just a inspiration and is probably not supposed to be the Dragon Ball version of Ganesha.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on February 09, 2017, 09:51:36 pm
I don't think Ganesha is relevant at all. The pink elephant is most likely just a reference to this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seeing_pink_elephants)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 09, 2017, 10:12:05 pm
It's pretty obvious it's not meant to be specifically Ganesha. There are cat people, dog people, a giant ball of soot, and, why not, elephant people. Only dipshits with a political or religious agenda get offended from stuff as obvious as that. And they must be either disregarded or called out, not fed.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on February 10, 2017, 04:47:38 pm
Dragon Ball Super new character designs
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 10, 2017, 04:51:09 pm
Kai, Universe 9 Supreme Kai
That's going to be confusing for English speakers lol (then again the kaioh shin from universe 7 is named Shin so... I guess that's a running gag for the kaiohs ?)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on February 10, 2017, 04:56:26 pm
My bad, Kai is Universe 11 Kaioshin.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: DatKofGuy on February 10, 2017, 04:57:02 pm

Oh look, another PC getting butthurt on behalf of another religion and voicing the opinions as the opinions of others..

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on February 10, 2017, 05:29:37 pm
More info about the new characters here
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2017/02/10/official-dragon-ball-super-website-unveils-universe-9-11-characters-voice-actors/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on February 12, 2017, 02:30:30 am
the new episode is great in how goku actually develops. it's nice to see him finally being forced to take responsibility for his reckless pursuit for good fighters in order to actually defend his universe once again. it's a nice change of pace.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 12, 2017, 02:57:42 am
Hmmm... Egyptian cat Beerus and Champa, Japanese three-tailed fox, Indian elephant man... With a closer look, it's actually getting hard to say the Gods of Destruction aren't inspired from real world myths.
Speaking of which, Beerus and Champa are brothers because the universes are mirrors of each other in pairs, so why don't the other universes have twins too ? Did they get replaced more often than Beerus and Champa ?
lol the Supreme Kai from U9 looks like a greedy asshole with that smirk. And so do the U9 fighters.
Satan is trying to hold Goku back a little (telling him see you got in trouble again !), if that beautiful bastard could actually tame Goku after taming Majin Buu... he would truly be the ultimate hero of Earth.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on February 12, 2017, 04:10:53 am
So, there has to be a way out of this, otherwise Goku will become the biggest murderer in all the 12 universes. I can't think of too many ways to solve the whole issue except...

Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on February 12, 2017, 04:45:04 am
That begs the question of whether the super dragon can undo what Zeno personally causes himself. If so it would be a major cop out and Goku can get off scot free without having take responsibility for a thing.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 12, 2017, 06:12:15 am
we don't need the dragon balls to break zeno when future trunksis perfectly able to do so. he just has to travel to teh past to kill goku so henever remidns zeno about the tournament and we get future all universes.

that being said, I wonder how beerus is going to justify the lack of monaca for such a serious tournament.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on February 12, 2017, 07:06:11 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4bvv3IUMAACd1S.jpg)
Pic by Herms.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 12, 2017, 12:31:08 pm
I wonder how they will revert everything back to one Universe (Goku's Universe) at the end. I think Dragonball is becoming a Universal series from now on and it won't be just this arc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on February 12, 2017, 12:37:34 pm
i bet goku would propose something similar to zeno. like it'll be more exciting for him if he "destroy" all other universe and make them all fit into one.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 12, 2017, 01:48:22 pm
That begs the question of whether the super dragon can undo what Zeno personally causes himself. If so it would be a major cop out and Goku can get off scot free without having take responsibility for a thing.
Welllll, technically, that's what the Dragon Balls have always been there for - reviving dead people, making death meaningless. On the other hand if Shenron has limitations from Kami, maybe the Super DB are limited to universes 6 & 7.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 13, 2017, 03:15:13 am
I think that erasing the universes idea comes from the future omni king. Also the prese the present Omni King sounds and looks more happy and positive. The future Omni King sounds carefull as if he is trying to know more. I think Zamasu is inside his body as I said before. This tournament seems like a big chance to make his zero mortal plan to work. It would be even possible about him trying to kill the present omni king. If he taps into omni kings powers, he could even destroy super shenron. So this means Goku has to come up with something good.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on February 13, 2017, 05:48:49 am
Zamasu
Can we not?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on February 13, 2017, 05:51:48 am
zamasu conspiracy

oh god this is sounding as bad as all of those clickbaity db theory videos with the ssgssgssgssgssg345 goku thumbnails.

I think youre overthinking things a lot, zeno doesn't display any kind of evil or careful behavior whatsoever, he quite literally is a child with all the power in the world, same thing with the future one. that's the problem with a lot of the db fanbase on youtube, people tend to overthink and not realize that db in general is pretty straightforward about its stuff
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 13, 2017, 01:05:00 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4bvv3IUMAACd1S.jpg)
Pic by Herms.

Joker instead of boozo, wasted pun chance.


Im glad the new Gods are keeping the alcohol theme wtih Sidra.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on February 14, 2017, 09:57:12 am
Gohan?  (https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/831406708245225472)
Episode 79+80 preview
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 15, 2017, 03:44:04 pm
It would be awesome if they include fusion matches aswell. The possibilities and options are endless since the potara's have a one hour limit now.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on February 17, 2017, 08:51:17 pm
All the God of Destructions and their name revealed
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sookoll on February 17, 2017, 10:00:52 pm
The drunken Russian stereotype lives on.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 19, 2017, 03:34:34 am
There was some weird artwork at the start, but the fight was really good ; I'm actually worried of how it'll go for Gohan. Sidra really doesn't seem to appreciate his Kaiohshin's bullshit, with all these worried / tired glances he's sending him whenever the Kaiohshin fucks around, that's interesting... And that Satan/Buu love !
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on February 19, 2017, 08:31:32 am
This was a great episode. Like Byakko said the art was a bit sketchy, but it tidied itself up.

I like that the Trio De Dangers have that element of surprise that comes with hidden power levels. It will fights more exciting if other fighters can do that.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on February 19, 2017, 09:11:38 am
so universe 9 are the jobbers of this arc, they might win against gohan but something tells me that they'll end up dead against other teams. i'm more interested with sydra than the trio de dangers.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sima Shi on February 19, 2017, 12:24:36 pm
i can guess that gohan will lose the fight that guy uses poison to defeat his enemies
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on February 19, 2017, 09:00:30 pm
Spoilers to Manga chapter 21


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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 20, 2017, 01:46:42 pm
Majin Buu's friendship with Mr. Satan was always good and enjoyable to see in Dragonball Z. It was Great to see that once more in this Episode.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Nakiri on February 20, 2017, 02:11:57 pm
First tournament,Majin buu still got beat while Majin Buu is SSJ3 level.Wonder how strong another character especially that Red Alian in Opening.Goku need to achieve his SSJ3 god mode in this arc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 20, 2017, 02:22:21 pm
Majin buu still got beat
have you just not watched this episode at all
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Nakiri on February 20, 2017, 02:26:34 pm
Majin buu still got beat
have you just not watched this episode at all

Yes,I'm just only watch figthing clip.I mean He still beat and got a hole while that wolf do kick ball.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on February 20, 2017, 02:29:56 pm
most of the fight buu was "playing".
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Nakiri on February 20, 2017, 02:34:26 pm
most of the fight buu was "playing".

Buu open eye while something is serious.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 20, 2017, 02:45:21 pm
Yes,I'm just only watch figthing clip
No, you have not watched the episode at all. Actually watch it instead of talking like that. He's literally playing and laughing while he gets kicked and gets a hole in his belly and he doesn't care, and then Satan gets hurt, and Buu gets mad, instantly heals, opens his eyes, and blasts the fuck out of the wolf guy. If you don't actually know how the fight goes, don't make comments on how hard this or that character is having it.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 20, 2017, 03:39:37 pm
Buu literally breezed through the fight.
The other guy seemed to be at least Majin Vegeta level.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ningen-Sama on February 20, 2017, 09:13:44 pm
Majin Buu isn't very fair for a tournament... He can't be knocked-out (at least no one was able to do so, execpt Beerus), so he'll just keep regenarating and fighting until he eventually wins. That's why I knew he would win that battle against Basil since the start. But I would like to see one of those guys from Universe 9 win a fight for a change...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Prime SC on February 20, 2017, 09:23:22 pm
He can regenerate but he can be disintegrated also just like kid buu was
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ningen-Sama on February 20, 2017, 09:33:58 pm
He can regenerate but if he can be disintegrated also just like kid buu was

Indeed. The problem is, it takes the power of a Genki Dama to desintegrate him, or at least something just as powerful. And in regular tournaments, killing is against the rules. We just don't know for sure if killing will be allowed in this tournament.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 20, 2017, 09:38:20 pm
Zen'oh wants fights to keep going until he's entertained, and he's going to erase the losing universes anyway, so... Universe 9 also just commented that they'll be fine if killing is allowed, too.
Between Tien, Krillin, Roshi, Piccolo, and Buu, and Goku learning the Mafuuba for Black (but failing to use it), I'm pretty sure we're being prepared to see weird skills, and between trick techniques, time skip, sealing techniques, there's no telling which one will be able to bypass Buu's infinite regeneration in one way or another. For one, I completely expect Goku to use the Mafuuba in the tournament. And the last time the Kaiohshins defeated Buu, it was with a sealing technique.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ningen-Sama on February 20, 2017, 09:49:57 pm
For one, I completely expect Goku to use the Mafuuba in the tournament. And the last time the Kaiohshins defeated Buu, it was with a sealing technique.

It would be nice to see the Mafuuba return, it felt like it was wasted in the Goku Black Arc...
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on February 20, 2017, 10:48:57 pm
zamasu arc was terrible to begin with (atleast in the anime). there are so many issues and questionable decisions made, super forms pulled out of the ass out of nowhere (granted they did look cool but there was literally no build up at all) not to mention the ending was so bad and such a cop-out.

zamasu himself was a really boring villain with another god-complex. mind you his design is cool and the fight scenes are amazing but besides that the arc was so shallow imo

from what I've seen from the manga, it's much much better. the pacing is faster, the introduction is amazing and shit actually makes sense with proper explanations and build up. I hope the ending is way better too.

the universal tournament is starting to look pretty good, since it's not trying to focus on telling a dark and edgy story about morality and whatever, it's literally "goku wants to fight a lot of powerful dudes so theres a giant tournament but wait if they lose they all die"
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on February 20, 2017, 11:09:45 pm
I disagree with that third statement. The manga has made the gap between the heroes and their opponents far too large. Hit is no match for Goku at all and Black gets completely pummelled by Vegeta when they first fight. Having weak enemies completely removes any tension.



EDIT
Well I guess it explains things a lot better but it still feels like the heroes are over levelled
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on February 20, 2017, 11:11:24 pm
Black gets completely pummelled by Vegeta when they first fight.
Black was only regular SSJ in that fight, of course he got fucked. He grew to Rosé at the end, and Vegeta went down. That's the point, at first he couldn't control Goku's power, but he grew into it and he reached the same level as Blue on his own, and now he's gone beyond.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Prime SC on February 20, 2017, 11:12:19 pm
I for one loved the zamasu arc. The action was good and i thought trunks transformation was the best one ive seen in all of dragonball. The story made sense even though it did get confusing once but all in all i thought they did really well
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on February 20, 2017, 11:20:51 pm
Black was only regular SSJ in that fight, of course he got fucked. He grew to Rosé at the end, and Vegeta went down. That's the point, at first he couldn't control Goku's power, but he grew into it and he reached the same level as Blue on his own, and now he's gone beyond.

It was SSJ2 but in his base form he was able to overwhelm Trunks who is about as strong as Goku's SSJ3 and....power levels are bullshit. Carry on.

Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on February 20, 2017, 11:26:05 pm
Zamasu arc was cool save for the end feeling kinda sloppy.

I also forgot that the new arc started. D:
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ningen-Sama on February 20, 2017, 11:28:13 pm
I'm divided about the Zamasu Arc, it had a good premise, imo, but it was executed poorly. It would be better if Zamasu was defeated with the Mafuuba by trunks (Bulma could go back to the past and get the seal from Roshi) after Vegetto defused. This way, they could save that timeline from destruction and cut out Trunks's new ass-pull transformation.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on February 21, 2017, 09:50:27 am
so i was digging deep into toriyama interviews to see if he indeed deem the movies canon, and in doing so I found this.

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“I take the movies as “stories in a different dimension from the main story of the comic”. I’m entirely just an audience member for them,” Toriyama said.

so there you have it. movies aren't canon.

source:
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/daizenshuu-6-akira-toriyama-super-interview/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on February 21, 2017, 10:48:45 am
There was an old interview where Toryama said that Cooler was going to be in the manga canon but he commited the mistake of letting them do the movie based around him before the debut and now his Lawyer didnt allow him to use him in the manga anymore. So cooler was apparenly created with the idea of him being canon.

Just minor trivia, useless all the same but it does explain why the cooler movie seems to fit mostly before the android saga.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on February 21, 2017, 02:02:45 pm
He can regenerate but if he can be disintegrated also just like kid buu was

Indeed. The problem is, it takes the power of a Genki Dama to desintegrate him, or at least something just as powerful. And in regular tournaments, killing is against the rules. We just don't know for sure if killing will be allowed in this tournament.

but the spirit bomb isn't lethal to non-pure evil so it won't be effective against any other besides kid buu or an entity like janenba or zamasu. probably why freeza survived that shit.

the only good side about the zamasu arc was the spirit sword. new physical super for xenoverse yay.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on February 26, 2017, 08:29:04 am
Next ep is out and

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on February 26, 2017, 10:42:11 am
Yeah, It should have been 8 in a team, that way we could have cut Roshi and Krillin/Tien and made for a proper 64-man bracket with the inevitable Goku/Vegeta semi where they don't shit the bed like thew Majin saga.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ningen-Sama on February 26, 2017, 11:02:33 am
The coolest thing about this new episode:
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Can't say I expected more (or less) from Gohan
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on February 26, 2017, 11:36:36 am
atleast zeno gave us a logical explanation about why the universes will be erased if they lose
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on February 26, 2017, 11:42:28 am
So 4 Universes aren't entering. This gives us 8 Universes to see. I think that's more then enough.

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Pooh Hardy on February 26, 2017, 03:42:43 pm
was pikkon ever part of the canon story of DBZ? because....he'd fit in more than 17 imo
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Speedpreacher on February 26, 2017, 03:52:43 pm
That whole arc was never canon.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on February 26, 2017, 04:31:47 pm
was pikkon ever part of the canon story of DBZ? because....he'd fit in more than 17 imo

he's already dead why would he care about the universe.  17 greatest park ranger of all 12 universes > 2nd rate piccollo. angels isn't going to be erased so much for whis rebellion theory.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on February 27, 2017, 04:59:58 am
at least they took the responsibility from goku :/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on February 27, 2017, 07:12:36 am
Mmm he was gonna get rid of the weaker universes eventually.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on February 27, 2017, 04:30:55 pm
Survival of the fittest I guess, but they have at least a chance now. =/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 01, 2017, 02:01:59 pm
Well maybe after this arc the stronger universes that didnt participate will hear about Goku and challenge him by traveling between universes. Idea's are limitless.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 05, 2017, 04:39:51 am
lol, it's almost like bergamo knew what the rules were going to be; well while not what was expected the tournament rules will make for a different tournament if we can even call it that anymore.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 05, 2017, 04:41:19 am
The rules for the upcoming tournament are harsh, weaker fighters will be a heavy liability on the final count if they get taken out even near the end. And the "Goku is the enemy of all universes" deal is getting a bit too on the nose by the time of next week's teaser... As is the whole "this is going to be all strategy and teamplay from now on, guys !" story but that's a good thing so it's okay.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: lui on March 05, 2017, 05:59:47 am
you know, I kinda like how toriyama is sticking with his guns and making goku what he was intending to write him as back in z's run, a person who fights for his own benefit (for those who don't know toriyama actually didn't like it when various other media that he wasn't too involved with portrayed goku as some sort of fighter for justice similar to superman or any conventional hero, atleast from what I've read) but I am starting to question just how goku and co. are kinda non-chalant about bergamo's speech about goku being the villain essentially in this arc
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on March 05, 2017, 08:19:06 am
So that's how they are gonna handle 80 fighters. It will be interesting to see what comes out of this.

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on March 05, 2017, 10:09:33 am
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Made a Post about that two Pages ago, maybe the others reacto to it now since you postet it. xP
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on March 05, 2017, 10:45:12 am
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- You can't kill your opponent.
- You lose via ring-out.
- You can't fly outside the ring.
- The time limit is 48 minutes.
- It is a team battle (battle royale with 10 fighters per team).
- No weapons are allowed.

DBS just became Smash, cool.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on March 05, 2017, 11:50:57 am
almost all characters involve in that tournament can destroy planets and you can lose via ring out? the fuck is that?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Sookoll on March 05, 2017, 02:32:17 pm
Quote
- You can't kill your opponent.
- You lose via ring-out.
- You can't fly outside the ring.
- The time limit is 48 minutes.
- It is a team battle (battle royale with 10 fighters per team).
- No weapons are allowed.

DBS just became Smash, cool.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6JlKdWWUAAZS-g.jpg)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Erroratu on March 05, 2017, 02:44:31 pm
almost all characters involve in that tournament can destroy planets and you can lose via ring out? the fuck is that?
Here in Dragon Ball we don't want anyone to get really hurt
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 06, 2017, 01:29:18 am
DBS just became Smash, cool.

Dragon Ball Super is not a real fighting game anime.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 08, 2017, 03:02:32 pm
At the end, most fighters will be eliminated or lose. The strongest onces will remain.

Also, team work and tactics will be a huge blast is what most are expecting. It sounds a bit like Super Sentai Style.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Pooh Hardy on March 08, 2017, 09:29:22 pm
roshi, tien and krillen might not stand a chance

though i do look forward to new characters fighting eachother, a good chance to make other combatants interesting
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on March 08, 2017, 09:34:08 pm
I'm certain this format of putting the low level universes together was to give them opponents who are on their level. They'll be fine, at least until the end anyway.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ningen-Sama on March 08, 2017, 09:45:28 pm
It makes sense as way to balance things off a bit...
It's always great to see Roshi back in action, that was one of the best moments in Fukkatsu no F, I'm curious to see what he'll do in this tournament.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 10, 2017, 02:29:16 pm
If killing is against the rules, why is Krillin using the destructo disc in the opening? Isn't that a killer move? I think he can use it for aiming at something else like objects or he can cut off tails or hands without killing the opponent. Maybe he is trying to cut beams or blasts.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 1Ultima on March 10, 2017, 06:52:01 pm
Or maybe he's using it because its his most iconic move?
(also since when did Distructo Disk kill anything? the closest he's got is slicing off Freeza's tail i swear)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 10, 2017, 06:57:31 pm
the closest he's got is slicing off Freeza's tail i swear
Not even, that was the Spirit Bomb (somehow).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on March 10, 2017, 07:10:56 pm
It can kill, but nobody's gonna take an energy blast head on unless they're certain it won't hurt them.

And yeah, it usually never makes a direct hit anyway.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Whiplash- on March 10, 2017, 07:44:10 pm
the closest he's got is slicing off Freeza's tail i swear
Not even, that was the Spirit Bomb (somehow).

He cut off form 2 freeza's tail, but it grows back when he goes to final form, then proceeds to lose it a second time.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 10, 2017, 08:48:15 pm
how did goku cut freeza in half anyway ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 10, 2017, 08:52:34 pm
He didn't, Freeza did it himself with his own disc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on March 10, 2017, 09:07:13 pm
Some new characters have been revealed
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2017/03/10/dragon-ball-super-universe-survival-arc-character-bio-voice-actor-updates-vermoud-anato-ea-mosco-kuru-oguma-iru-agu/
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Niitris on March 19, 2017, 02:54:20 am
New chapter came out today in eng.

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on March 19, 2017, 03:35:31 am
Also

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Flowrellik on March 19, 2017, 03:40:16 am
It can kill, but nobody's gonna take an energy blast head on unless they're certain it won't hurt them.

And yeah, it usually never makes a direct hit anyway.
Unless you are Nappa and you play doggie with said Destructo Disc.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on March 19, 2017, 01:14:40 pm
Great Episode! Next week's trailer shows Krillin fighting Basil. I believe they are sparring until the tournament.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 20, 2017, 06:49:47 pm
lots of small if unimportant things to say now:

the strongest fighter of universe 11 is obviosuly the guy fighitng with goku in the intro, since same uniform and stuff, i eman it's rpetty obvious but osmeone had to said it and get it out of the way before someone else makes the "amazing discovery" and we derail the topic by saying how obvious it was.

kinda bothered that the anime forgot that monaca exist, though that might get adressed next episode, who knows, at least the manga was somethign like "why did not zamasu steal nomaca's body instead of goku's?, ah must be ebcause he disliked his nipples"

universe 7 has it's work cut short for choosing the strongest people in the universe, since 1 generation ago freeza did all thew ork for them, with freezer being the strongest being in the universe as he scouted/killed the rest of it so the next strongest people were either dead or working under him; then the artificial humans using freezer info became stronger than freezer, so anybody whom survived the fights against them (and the artifical humans themselves) are indeed, the strongest fighters in the universe.

continuing that, goku fighting even stronger people in the underworld is anime only shit and the buu arc which did not exactly increase the stakes that much (since gohan was the only one stronger than cell, but also he became weaker for the buu arc because he quit training), well the buu arc depended on god level people whom are not allowed to participate inthe tournament anyway.

TL;DR, universe 7 team can easily choose the strongest 10 people in the universe because of everythign that has lead up to it, while, the other universe might have  harder job of choosing; tho, it's funyn how roshi and tenshinhan are indeed in the top10.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on March 20, 2017, 07:01:27 pm
That explains why the top 10 are all from Earth and they don't have to look anywhere else, although the Earth cannot be the only planet that was lucky enough to avoid Frieza during all that time so maybe there's someone else strong enough for the tournament but you can only search so much with just 40 hours (And Beerus would've known about such kind of person existing anyway I guess?)

Kinda confused about that manga only event:

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on March 20, 2017, 07:07:15 pm
That explains why the top 10 are all from Earth and they don't have to look anywhere else, although the Earth cannot be the only planet that was lucky enough to avoid Frieza during all that time so maybe there's someone else strong enough for the tournament but you can only search so much with just 40 hours (And Beerus would've known about such kind of person existing anyway I guess?)
Beerus didnt know about anyone on earth anyway until he wanted to find a sayan, he seems to be doing a shitty job.
Its entirely possible the universe has stronger people than those on earth and he just never scouted them



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Kinda confused about that manga only event:

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Toyotaro used to do a manga called Dragon ball AF , that whole scene was a copy of what he did on his fanmanga when Vegeta faces XYCOR the supersayan by transforming between ssj3, ssj2 2nd grade and Ssj4 repeatedly within seconds.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 20, 2017, 08:01:15 pm
With the whole "Trunks' and Vegeta's SSJ2 form is just as strong as Goku's SSJ3" and "SSJ3 is impractical anyway because it drains power way too fast instead of regenerating it" things, the SSJ3 form for Vegeta is a non-issue, just like the Super Trunks form, he might as well have figured it out but disregarded it (and became stronger as SSJ2 anyway).  For SSG, the SSB form is definitely based on the ability to use God ki, and as far as we've seen in BoG, the one way to enable that is by doing the ceremony thing, as explained by Shenron himself. Plus in the movie (and probably the anime too), Vegeta straight up says "alright, we'll do you, but next time, it's my turn". So considering that the next time we see it, he's Blue with God ki, there's no reason to think maybe he didn't go through it. He did, and he doesn't use it for the same reason Goku doesn't use it anymore - they actually ARE using it, they're just turning Super Saiyan while in it, which gives SSB. Because that's exactly what we're told SSB is - "going Super Saiyan while in Super Saiyan God". There's no reason to look for a reason to say Vegeta never learned SSG - of course he did. It's not like he found a way to use God ki that Shenron himself didn't know.

Just remembered,
Toyotaro used to do a manga called Dragon ball AF , that whole scene was a copy of what he did on his fanmanga when Vegeta faces XYCOR the supersayan by transforming between ssj3, ssj2 2nd grade and Ssj4 repeatedly within seconds.
Dragon Ball Multiverse did the same "trick" with their version of Future Trunks using his Super Trunks form.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Dumanios on March 20, 2017, 10:04:40 pm
That explains why the top 10 are all from Earth and they don't have to look anywhere else, although the Earth cannot be the only planet that was lucky enough to avoid Frieza during all that time so maybe there's someone else strong enough for the tournament but you can only search so much with just 40 hours (And Beerus would've known about such kind of person existing anyway I guess?)
Beerus didnt know about anyone on earth anyway until he wanted to find a sayan, he seems to be doing a shitty job.
Its entirely possible the universe has stronger people than those on earth and he just never scouted them

Magetta's race was said to exist in Universe 7. I'm sure if the Z-Fighters had gone and looked for fighters off Earth, they'd have found them.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on March 21, 2017, 12:26:26 am
There's also the Freeza race if I'm not mistaken though I guess it could be like Xenoverse exclusive or something.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Pooh Hardy on March 21, 2017, 01:49:02 pm
in one of the filler episodes goku collected the dragon balls within a day to try and wish king kai back to life
if he can do that within the 40 hours and like... wish for his group to power up... since.... master roshi and tien over goten and trunks? cmon... they wont last long if the weakest of the other universes are buu's level

Also why is goku written to be a dick all of a sudden, a simple "i'm not evil, this is all a misunderstanding" would ease the situation much faster
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on March 21, 2017, 02:14:34 pm
That explains why the top 10 are all from Earth and they don't have to look anywhere else, although the Earth cannot be the only planet that was lucky enough to avoid Frieza during all that time so maybe there's someone else strong enough for the tournament but you can only search so much with just 40 hours (And Beerus would've known about such kind of person existing anyway I guess?)
Beerus didnt know about anyone on earth anyway until he wanted to find a sayan, he seems to be doing a shitty job.
Its entirely possible the universe has stronger people than those on earth and he just never scouted them



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Kinda confused about that manga only event:

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Toyotaro used to do a manga called Dragon ball AF , that whole scene was a copy of what he did on his fanmanga when Vegeta faces XYCOR the supersayan by transforming between ssj3, ssj2 2nd grade and Ssj4 repeatedly within seconds.

dragon ball af? isn't that a what if from a spanish magazine that got attention because the lack of info back in the day.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Pooh Hardy on March 21, 2017, 02:21:58 pm
toyotaro made a comic based on the concept
introducing characters like the half kai.....saiyan...xicor......and SSJ5
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on March 21, 2017, 05:44:14 pm
Episode 27 of Super has Goku saying that Vegeta obtained Super Saiyan God all by himself. He had a six or so month head start on Goku when it came to training from Whis, so he most likely learned "something" during that time.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: D. HoChoy on March 23, 2017, 06:27:34 am
in one of the filler episodes goku collected the dragon balls within a day to try and wish king kai back to life
if he can do that within the 40 hours and like... wish for his group to power up... since.... master roshi and tien over goten and trunks? cmon... they wont last long if the weakest of the other universes are buu's level

Also why is goku written to be a dick all of a sudden, a simple "i'm not evil, this is all a misunderstanding" would ease the situation much faster

Probably just Toriyama/Toei overcorrecting Goku's character... or maybe Goku's just frontin'.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on March 26, 2017, 07:52:21 am
New Episode. Whis can do anything.

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on March 26, 2017, 08:28:52 am
Vegeta's reactions were pretty funny.

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Post by: Byakko on March 26, 2017, 11:24:37 am
Oh, 28 planets with life, I'm surprised they're giving that sort of detail. And I wonder if that tosses DB GT in the drain, how many planets did they visit there ?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on March 26, 2017, 12:10:00 pm
Oh, 28 planets with life, I'm surprised they're giving that sort of detail. And I wonder if that tosses DB GT in the drain, how many planets did they visit there ?

They don't visit many planets on GT, maybe 5 or 6 they just stay on them for 2-4 episodes each time, because several Dragon Balls are already in the possession of some antagonists.

We have to see what the Super Dragon Ball wish at the end of the tournament will be, maybe instead of just restoring the Universes maybe they wish to also merge them, this way the quantity of the universes will still be reduced, and the overall level of the new merged universe would be increased I guess.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ningen-Sama on March 26, 2017, 12:45:08 pm
I knew Vegeta couldn't have come up with a stupid name such as Bulla (or Bra)... I just hope she's turns out better than her GT counterpart.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 26, 2017, 12:51:31 pm
I knew Vegeta couldn't have come up with a stupid name such as Bulla
It's the continuation of the Brief family naming system, why would you even think the name came from Vegeta
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on March 26, 2017, 02:54:12 pm
So I guess whenever  the english dub gets to this they're keeping the name Bulla now? Since the official subs are going with it they might as well.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 26, 2017, 03:07:01 pm
Those things aren't made by the same people. It'll be whatever they decide. But yeah, hopefully they don't play it too dumb.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Shocksconstant on March 26, 2017, 03:37:13 pm
Really? I thought FUNI was subbing DBS nowadays since they started streaming super on their sight and crunchyroll.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on March 26, 2017, 07:22:02 pm
Oh, I didn't know about that bit, disregard what I said then.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on March 26, 2017, 07:31:04 pm
well they aren't calling bulma bloomers aren't they? so it's a given they'll call bra bulla.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on March 27, 2017, 04:13:30 am
echalote was a much better name.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: President Devon on April 02, 2017, 04:04:32 am
I really enjoyed the latest episode with Krillin getting to show his chops off against the saiyans.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 02, 2017, 04:46:22 am
Uh, someone from Beerus & Champa's race is in Toppo's group, apparently. That's nice if they can flesh out the universe(s) with coherent group of races (we already have Saiyans in 2 universes) rather than just tossing random designs like it was back in Freeza's army. I just hope that we won't get one episode per recruit, as much as I'm interested in seeing #17, Tien and Roshi to mix up the styles, it would waste way too much time.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Koop on April 02, 2017, 08:51:38 am
That's true. I just hope each character has a time to shine.

Also Krillin's got the moves :D
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: -Red- on April 02, 2017, 11:03:48 am
Krillin's new technique was as underwhelming as I expected it to be.

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on April 02, 2017, 12:01:03 pm
It seems like all of his attacks have been upgraded.

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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: mkfreak89 on April 03, 2017, 03:55:32 am
since when is krillin so strong, and what about piccolo? is he going to be now weaker then krillin? db super is big BS seriously.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on April 03, 2017, 09:13:57 am
since when is krillin so strong, and what about piccolo? is he going to be now weaker then krillin? db super is big BS seriously.

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And we will see Piccolo later in this Arc and he will probably not be weaker then Krillin, now calm down.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 03, 2017, 01:46:23 pm
Krillin hasn't displayed any special strength in these episodes, only his skills, there's no power involved in anything he did. And don't say the Kamehameha clash shows he's nearly as strong as SSB Goku (it doesn't).
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Iced on April 03, 2017, 02:51:01 pm
episode was lit, from yamcha acting like a blowhard on the past episode to krillin showing his skills, ive been loving those episodes.

Whats up with boo on the preview? Is that a new form unlock?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Ningen-Sama on April 03, 2017, 06:19:50 pm
Whats up with boo on the preview? Is that a new form unlock?

Guess it's just gonna be some comic relief stuff... He was shown changing shape for no reason before
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Daeron on April 03, 2017, 06:29:44 pm
since when is krillin so strong, and what about piccolo? is he going to be now weaker then krillin? db super is big BS seriously.
Nowhere in the episode was stated that Krilin was significantly stronger than before, the purpose of this episode was to explain than in a battle royale, tactics and cooperation are more important than raw strenght or power levels, something that Krillin seems more adept and experienced than Gohan and Goku
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Omega on April 03, 2017, 11:48:22 pm
Krillin hasn't displayed any special strength in these episodes, only his skills, there's no power involved in anything he did. And don't say the Kamehameha clash shows he's nearly as strong as SSB Goku (it doesn't).

That is true there man. Krillin's Kamehameha struggle with Goku SSB means nothing. If Krillin can hold it against Goku like that, Gohan SSJ2 would easily vaporize Perfect Cell and Goku's support wouldn't be needed there.


Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on April 08, 2017, 02:47:55 am
Preview summaries for DBS eps.86-89
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/850491259890188288
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Byakko on April 09, 2017, 03:06:10 pm
Wtf @ Buu's sudden change just because.
Looks like it's really going to be one episode per recruit, with extra padding.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Bastard Mami on April 11, 2017, 03:03:25 am
well, at least buu is able to keep up with non supersaiyan goku, I am enjoying this recruitment arc (inb4 recruitment arc is better than tournament arc).

pretty fun that for some, it was an important fight to save the universe, but for buu, he was playing wiht the doggy.
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Spec Gespenst on April 14, 2017, 03:44:12 pm
Huge update on DBS website, including a bunch of new characters

Toei website : http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/chara/chapter4/

KenXyro Translations can be found here :
Part 1 : https://twitter.com/KenXyro/status/852848994011062273 (U1-U4)
Part 2 : https://twitter.com/KenXyro/status/852861079814152192 (U5-U8)
Part 3 : https://twitter.com/KenXyro/status/852872946922147845 (U9-U12)
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Lichtbringer on April 16, 2017, 12:25:30 pm
About the last Episode.
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Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: 地獄の花 on April 16, 2017, 04:24:32 pm
ok it's official 17 is stronger than goku. bullets can't harm him so therefore  he is stronger than goku. isn't it weird that they didn't show the picture of his family? now i'm kinda interested is his wife someone we know already in db or z?
Title: Re: New Dragonball Super Series
Post by: Long John Killer on April 16, 2017, 04:45:54 pm
So not that retcons are new to this series, bu