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Title: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 05, 2019, 04:12:42 am
Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P

NEW SPRITES based on Original sprites.

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/new_pu10.gif)(http://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_18.gif)

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mvc-sm11.gif)(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/image10.png)
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen078.png)

new version for this char.

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/arcade10.png)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: GTA on February 05, 2019, 07:30:46 am
It's great to see this character being supported and gets more attention.

Try to use the programs what Gladiacloud is using. That way, the char will be even more good looking.

Plus, I've said to him to add a hyper background and hyper portrait. In which he didn't, just a simple thing to do.

Try also the steps what Shinzankuro is doing. That way, you're be just like them.

If GladCloud can't do it, why not you? Hope you can satisfying with this char. Cause, to satisfy someone is just a side effect.

Good luck on him.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: NDSilva on February 05, 2019, 09:14:20 am
I had thought of a potential moveset for U.Soldier, incorporating most of the the elements from Forgotten Worlds.

Maybe it'll be of some use :)



Generally-wise:

He's a bulky fighter with a anti-gravity tech, which means his basic movements can have between a average and high speed - much like other flying characters in MvC like Magneto, Storm and M.Bison. This "floating nature" allows for a variety of inspirations when animating his general moves.

We could also take characters from different sources, that have a similar style, as references for his normal attacks. As a example, I think of Kevin from Garou: Mark of The Wolves:

(https://i.imgur.com/65IDxjP.png)



For the special moves:

(https://i.imgur.com/Jcl9hUr.png)

These could be a individual set of specials for the satellite; performed with + kick (each weapon represented by a button strenght).
(https://i.imgur.com/rscF8lF.png)


(https://i.imgur.com/L4fxYmQ.png)




For the hyper moves, IMO these weapons work the most:

(https://i.imgur.com/a3q4yyE.png)

The charged laser, the homing laser (could as well be a charged & homing laser ;)), the flame-thrower, and the multi-directional beam! That image above is just a mockup to make it looking closer to a MvC style hyper move.



That's it for now. Unknown Soldier is a interesting character, and I hope more people get interested in heping on this. :)

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: The Shakunetsu on February 05, 2019, 04:26:45 pm
You can also used dicktracy and punisher for basing revolving rapid fire shots movement

CTTO to the ripper

(http://spritedatabase.net/files/genesis/2415/Sprite/DickTracy.png)

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5d/43/27/5d4327accde8dcb9dc5543553c1f2b65.gif)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 05, 2019, 06:51:09 pm
thank you guys!
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mr.Karate JKA on February 05, 2019, 11:00:39 pm
 @gladiacloud you must see this. As you dont want make u.soldier, maybe with mazemerald you can bring to life u. Soldier
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: NDSilva on February 05, 2019, 11:04:03 pm
6 months or more... No thanks.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HugeTiredAztecant-size_restricted.gif)
I'm outta here!
Boy, properly building up a fighter with such variety of moves/weapons truly takes a damn amount of time, if you're alone on this...

I'm tellin ya, it took me 1 entire year to make a somewhat consistent Dr. Wily, and that's because I was entirely focusing on him during that time. :ninja:



But hey, maybe this guy ends up drawing some attention from peeps afterall, and be finished quite sooner than one would expect...

Gladiacloud, are you still interested in seeing a community project for this Soldier?
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: lui on February 06, 2019, 12:49:57 am
I won't ask for the help from others guys because they won't accept to help me, so with patience i think between 6 months or more i get release him.

6 months or more... No thanks.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HugeTiredAztecant-size_restricted.gif)
I'm outta here!

how rude can you be?

make it yourself then if you dont want to wait that long. who are you to tell someone that? he doesn't work on your schedule.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: MotorRoach on February 06, 2019, 12:52:13 am
I won't ask for the help from others guys because they won't accept to help me, so with patience i think between 6 months or more i get release him.

6 months or more... No thanks.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HugeTiredAztecant-size_restricted.gif)
I'm outta here!

Okay, stay gone. Nobody owes you anything.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 06, 2019, 12:56:46 am
using the V.S STYLE template.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Jmorphman on February 06, 2019, 02:03:14 am
6 months or more... No thanks.

I'm outta here!
Don't ever post shit like this again.

Oh, wait, actually, you've been warned about this before (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2424622). No more warnings. See you in 3 days.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: The Sudden Rarity on February 06, 2019, 03:29:05 am
It's like he honestly doesn't understand how much it takes to work on something. I bet the idea that people pay hundreds for a spritesheet blows his mind XP

[/offtopic]

Anyway, it's pretty cool to see stuff like this crop up from time to time, so keep this kind of stuff up ^..^
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Gladiacloud on February 06, 2019, 09:06:20 am
Gladiacloud, are you still interested in seeing a community project for this Soldier?
No... for now. I'm currently work on another project, and this time I will not work alone (I hope).

But I have already planned a moveset for Unknown Soldier, if you're interested.

I'll send you a PM as soon as possible.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: 2Dee4ever on February 06, 2019, 10:26:59 am
Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mvc-sm11.gif)(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/image10.png)

I had been feeling sad because this char hasn´t fun and he´s not good enough to play, the sprites are poor and the gameplay very awkward and precarious.

i'm updating him to release a beta version, but surely there´s many things to do yet. i think in changing the moveset and gameplay to fix it more from the original game with the MVC treatment, i'm working alone and it's more delayed.
You shouldn't worry so much about the sprites & try your best to make due with what you have. Make him a weapon based fighter like you seem to already be doing. Just having access to all those weapons would be really cool and you wouldn't need new sprites. Maybe only a launcher, but you could even get creative with that. That move-list posted can easily work.

If you need some inspiration, I tried to do the same thing with a weapon based character. I didn't have any custom sprites either & just winged it reusing the same old sprites. Just give all the weapons unique properties. I can see it coming out really cool.
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
Also, think Chris Redfield, probably an even better example from a commercial game.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Agent_5 on February 06, 2019, 04:28:41 pm
6 months or more... No thanks.

I'm outta here!
Don't ever post shit like this again.

Oh, wait, actually, you've been warned about this before (http://mugenguild.com/forum/msg.2424622). No more warnings. See you in 3 days.


Ohh how the turn tables
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: ShinZankuro on February 06, 2019, 05:34:45 pm
Being honest... I really think that would be a great idea a community project working together for Unknown Soldier.

It's the last of the Special Partners remaining and Gladia deserves to rest a bit lol[Consider that idea a payback for all those works he did for community, he really pushed himself so far with these special partners.. He really deserves that].. I know, he is possibly not THAT much appealing, but look how people here turned Joe from a bland uninspired SF character into a nice one. I believe we can do the same thing with 1P/Unknown Soldier

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 07, 2019, 12:01:56 am
thanks for the feedbacks.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 07, 2019, 12:06:08 am
i need to improve more things.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 07, 2019, 03:19:10 am
it´s very useful.

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/qa11.png)(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/unknow10.png)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 07, 2019, 03:43:01 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/aura_m10.png)(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/sde_bm10.jpg)(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/qwe11.png)

Aura mega Crush concept idealized by Gladiacloud.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 07, 2019, 06:10:26 am
there are many shot options here, it´s better make a simpler work.

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/booste10.png)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: spaceman on February 07, 2019, 08:49:55 am
I propose to use some boss of the game to make a hyper.

when do you think?

(https://i.imgur.com/arlWEKc.png)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: The Shakunetsu on February 07, 2019, 02:44:15 pm
Good luck man, keep it up.
I hope this may also help you spriting.

ctto

(https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/53/56381.png)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 07, 2019, 07:52:59 pm
good spritesheet!
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 08, 2019, 05:25:58 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/112.gif)
LIGHT STAND PUNCH

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/zenny10.gif)
ZENNY THE ROBOT SATELLITE WILL BE A HELPER

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/us210.gif)
UNKNOWN SOLDIER 2 WILL BE A ATTACK ASSIST HELPER
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 08, 2019, 07:06:18 am
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/us211.gif)
STAND STANCE animated by me and created by gladiacloud and fixed by Motorroach.

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Gladiacloud on February 08, 2019, 09:05:00 am
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/us211.gif)
STAND STANCE animated by me and created by Motorroach.

I Think it works with explosion field - Aura Crush

Technically, stance sprite has made by me. Motorroach has fixed some points.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 08, 2019, 11:31:47 am
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/us211.gif)
STAND STANCE animated by me and created by Motorroach.

I Think it works with explosion field - Aura Crush

Technically, stance sprite has made by me. Motorroach has fixed some points.

Sorry friend... Good work.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: NDSilva on February 08, 2019, 02:40:45 pm
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/112.gif)
LIGHT STAND PUNCH

I'm not so good at animating, but I made a pretty rushed edit just to show some ways to improve this:



(https://i.imgur.com/WjBMWuG.gif)

Fixed the belt in one frame, and the (viewer's) left leg on another frame, to avoid wobbling;
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 09, 2019, 11:13:53 am
the older attacks need to be improved.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: GTA on February 09, 2019, 12:01:06 pm
Nice looking progress, Maze. I've already talked with Mazemerald and we are all good. No worries and i shouldn't be a jerk to him.

@Mazemerald: I've made Zenny the robot for more animation frames. The first one how it moves and the second one how it gets open and gets closed. Hope you found this useful:
(https://i.imgur.com/fjDZ5EO.png)

Feel free to use this.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: O Ilusionista on February 09, 2019, 12:35:22 pm
Quote
I won't ask for the help from others guys because they won't accept to help me, so with patience i think between 6 months or more i get release him.
And why not? You won't be sure if you don't try it.
People makes mistakes all the time. We need to learn from it and move on.

About the punch, I have a suggestion - Instead of using the front leg as a pivot point (or anchor point, what is used to align the animation and execute the motion), try to use the back leg instead.

This will give you some beneficts:
- Your attack now has more reach
- The animation looks more fluid

Compare both versions. Its the same animation, with just axis change
(https://i.imgur.com/WjBMWuG.gif)(https://i.imgur.com/u5edasW.gif)
Ps: if you don't mind, I will use those sprites to write a tutorial.

Good luck on your project
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 09, 2019, 11:35:02 pm
Thank you

it looks better and fluid.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: R565 on February 09, 2019, 11:56:03 pm
Holy cow, it's amazing what you can do with just a simple axis change. It looks much more fluid now, and I hope you can get all the help you can get Maze, cause it seems like after Lou got made, people really want to see Unknown Soldier get some love as well. I know you can do it, cause you do have the heart for this.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 10, 2019, 01:21:20 am
zenny will be a helper.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 10, 2019, 01:34:53 am
thank you guys!
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Revanto on February 10, 2019, 02:46:19 am
Maybe you could add a cool system so that when you hit your opponent with enough damage, zenny coins pop out of them and, when you pick them up, they add to your super meter. However, the coins can disappear quickly so that there is no guarantee that your super meter will always fill too quickly.

Just an idea...

Cheers,
Revanto  :P
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Flowrellik on February 10, 2019, 05:34:04 am
Oh man how I longed for this day to come!
I hope for all the best on this endeavor as he is literally the only assist character left for Mugenization!
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 10, 2019, 08:33:52 am
i am using the mvc system.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 12, 2019, 09:15:09 am
New stances are done......but?

MEDIUM STAND PUNCH
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/medium11.gif)

STRONG STAND PUNCH - LAUNCHER
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/strong12.gif)





Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: O Ilusionista on February 12, 2019, 02:06:12 pm
Take a look - its just a matter to choose the right frames and the right axis. This animation was done using only the frames from "medium punch"

(https://i.imgur.com/rQOh8pG.gif)
(this is a case where the anchor point shifts, by the way. Now I am using the anchor point in the middle of the character, or it would look jumpy)

You can make a second animation from this attack (the first could be a closer version and the second a more far away version)
(https://i.imgur.com/nYMBNq8.gif)
Or you can use this as his grab - he grabs, bashes the enemy with the second attack (pushing him away) them either kick him or use the gun to finish the move

For the strong version its the same thing - the same frames, just with proper axis and delay
You can use two versions - a longer (left) or a shorter version (right)
(https://i.imgur.com/iLNdvKI.gif) (https://i.imgur.com/hayZG3Y.gif)

Maybe you can add a motion blur on the gun for this attack.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 12, 2019, 03:29:30 pm
really it looks better.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Gladiacloud on February 12, 2019, 04:01:17 pm
Maze, remember that you can use also Kevin Rian as base, not only Guile... especially for kick animations.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: NDSilva on February 12, 2019, 08:25:09 pm
Yep! In this case he's one of the most fitting references, for sure.




Another good base for normal attacks, and maybe other stuff too, I think: Clark from KoF XIII;



Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 12, 2019, 09:27:40 pm
thanks for show me that.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 14, 2019, 05:52:35 am
i'm revamping some things more.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 14, 2019, 04:41:19 pm
sprites for the super moves:

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/flamet10.gif)
burner shot

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/missil10.gif)
missile shot

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/nall10.gif)
Aura ball

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/710.gif)
Aura crush field

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/booste10.gif)
boosted shot - disk form

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/field10.gif)
Aura crush field

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/fire10.gif)
Aura blast

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/beam10.gif)
beam shot

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/napalm10.gif)
napalm shot

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/zenny_10.gif)
zenny laser shot

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: The Shakunetsu on February 14, 2019, 05:55:41 pm
Nice would you like to borrow or add a Cable like sprites for attacks and specials?

like Viper Beam


(https://66.media.tumblr.com/3d2363e1ef710a5cfe7b66409b96b0c1/tumblr_o9t9jkrTH01vqtnc0o4_400.gif)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: GTA on February 14, 2019, 06:04:11 pm
I've checked the sprites and some are decent and some are a bit Guile-ish. Not that this is a bad thing, but if you have seen Gladiacloud's chars. Most of them are original and some of them are a bit based on sprites, but not too based on sprites like your old Ton Pooh sprites that is most based on Chun-Li.

I notice some sprites had some errors. I found these errors of your U.S sprites:
(https://i.imgur.com/FMZKaWf.png) and (https://i.imgur.com/kydTO02.png)
The charge sprite, cause his left hand looks turned around and one of his kick sprite, his bracelet is missing.

I'm no pro at spriting, but it was a easy fix for me.
(https://i.imgur.com/ONJSXAz.png) and (https://i.imgur.com/kyN8Nun.png)

Glad that i can be your help (sometimes) and maybe i can help even more.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 15, 2019, 05:58:21 am
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen071.png)(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen072.png)(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen074.png)(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen073.png)


Some screenshots.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: GTA on February 15, 2019, 10:45:15 am
Are you still satisfying with the voice of your Unknown Soldier? All the other Capcom chars by Gladiacloud have their own Japanese voice. I've made my own snd voice for U.S. It has the voice of Guile and soldier from the Shadowloo crew from SFV. Very fitting if I say so myself.

Would you like to have it?
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 15, 2019, 05:05:36 pm
 I will redo these sprites.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Violin Ken on February 15, 2019, 06:18:03 pm
Why is the little satellite thing in his sprites?  Would be better if you coded it as a separate helper.  You can refer to my tessa and the code for her staff if it helps. 
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: GTA on February 15, 2019, 07:19:12 pm
Why is the little satellite thing in his sprites?  Would be better if you coded it as a separate helper.  You can refer to my tessa and the code for her staff if it helps.

Yeah, i told him and even my friend told this:
Quote
DON'T keep that satellite
like people suggested, work only with the unknown soldier sprites, keep the sattellite outside him
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 16, 2019, 06:46:21 pm
Zenny will be a helper.

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: The Shakunetsu on February 16, 2019, 09:58:10 pm
wow thanks great!
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 17, 2019, 02:53:03 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/25910.png)

THEN  AND NOW....

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 17, 2019, 06:39:36 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/new_st10.png)
NEW STAND STANCE - REVAMPED

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 17, 2019, 04:41:48 pm

fixing the proportion.

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 18, 2019, 07:17:01 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen076.png)(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen077.png)
Now Unknown Soldier 2 attacks with shots.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 18, 2019, 07:15:32 pm
learning how to use the GG.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 19, 2019, 06:45:06 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/new_st13.png)

which stance looks better to him?
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Flowrellik on February 19, 2019, 06:53:16 am
Second stance for my end. Gives it that aggressive outlook to him.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: REDHOT on February 19, 2019, 12:25:18 pm
Second
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: GaziraAgain on February 19, 2019, 02:09:54 pm
Second too.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: GTA on February 19, 2019, 05:16:58 pm
Second.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: R565 on February 19, 2019, 06:32:02 pm
Second as well, there's just something about it that makes it look cooler.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 19, 2019, 09:56:22 pm
floating stance is more suitable now.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: The Shakunetsu on February 19, 2019, 11:11:52 pm
second!!
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 22, 2019, 01:05:37 am
Animated Stand Stance
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand10.gif)

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 22, 2019, 04:32:52 am
STAND LIGHT PUNCH - REVAMPED
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_11.gif)

STAND MEDIUM PUNCH - REVAMPED
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_12.gif)

STAND MEDIUM STRONG - REVAMPED
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_13.gif)



Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: ShinZankuro on February 22, 2019, 04:57:37 am
I recommend to put some more frames into the second animation
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 22, 2019, 05:14:49 am
I recommend to put some more frames into the second animation

thanks.
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Post by: Mazemerald. on February 22, 2019, 04:29:53 pm
feedback was very useful.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 23, 2019, 03:29:42 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen080.png)
Additional stand strong punch - forward

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen079.png)
aura crush field - i will add the explositions

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen078.png)
MVC1 Attack - now with the same hitdef.

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen081.png)
Armed us2 striker - an extra force from us2 shooting.

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/mugen082.png)
aura shock ball - in progress
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 23, 2019, 06:02:58 pm
removing the animations that look abrupt.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 27, 2019, 04:26:58 am
more soon.
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Post by: The Shakunetsu on February 27, 2019, 04:46:52 pm
No worries man!!
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Post by: Manson Rees on February 27, 2019, 07:29:12 pm
Take your time dude. :D
That's a nice project, I have to say. :)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 28, 2019, 12:29:07 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_14.gif)
STAND LIGHT KICK


Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: ShinZankuro on February 28, 2019, 12:55:05 am
hmm... not bad...

..But it needs some movement. More frames at kick movement and make the Soldier to rise a bit up the weapon.

The key is "fluidness", the animations just need some more frames on their attacks.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on February 28, 2019, 06:32:09 am

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_14.gif)
STAND LIGHT KICK

(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_15.gif)
STAND MEDIUM KICK

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stron10.gif)
STAND STRONG KICK

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Umezono on February 28, 2019, 07:15:30 am
That stand light kick is missing a ton of keyframes, its like his leg is teleporting. And the animation actually seems too long for a standard light kick but thats just me as a fighting game player talking. If you are not at the level to make it seem more natural I think you should stick with the Guile animations.
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Post by: Mazemerald. on March 01, 2019, 06:36:03 am
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stron10.gif)
STAND STRONG KICK
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: R565 on March 01, 2019, 07:19:31 am
That stand light kick is missing a ton of keyframes, its like his leg is teleporting. And the animation actually seems too long for a standard light kick but thats just me as a fighting game player talking. If you are not at the level to make it seem more natural I think you should stick with the Guile animations.

This right here, I was wondering why a lot of characters have weird looking animations and it clicks.....KEYFRAMES. Without those, a lot of things look so rushed and unpolished, your strong kick is actually looking pretty good and I hope that you will take this info to heart and learn.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 01, 2019, 09:40:33 am
 the tutorial made from O'ilusionista is very useful.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 02, 2019, 07:52:09 am
pivot/anchor points are very important.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: R565 on March 02, 2019, 10:27:38 am
Maze, I am going to say this cause I really do care. You really are taking everything everyone is saying to heart, and he is really looking to be good! Just keep on sprucing up the sprites and make sure that you keep following those guidelines, cause even though it's edits, this might be your breakout when it comes to the stuff you made.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 04, 2019, 12:11:24 am
 it requires a lot of efforts to build a char totally new in mugen.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 04, 2019, 06:27:12 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/new_st11.gif)
new stand stance

now with the complete weapon design made by capcom.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: ShinZankuro on March 04, 2019, 07:33:54 am
I suggest remaking the stance.

There's something kinda off which I don't know how to explain... Try to make something more simplier  Since he's floating I don't think there's any needing of him raising his weapon like that.

My suggestion is.. Try to make something a bit similar to how Capcom did in his Namco X Capcom appearance. [The same goes to his attacks, and even hyper combos like Mega Crash or etcetera]

This sketch here probably will explain better than using words lol [Breathing in-and-out is basically how Cyclops do that, I strongly believe you understand what I mean]

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/321046640595304459/552015441665589248/unknown.png)

Some visual references that can help you by making the stance:

(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/intermediary/f/6315627b-13b5-42c9-b62d-d7203f9a5444/d8b7aae-9cb03ba0-7672-4b78-8db3-9943d1d175c0.png)


EDIT:

Another thing. Avoid making the fx on his weapon special attacks to be together with the sprite. Use that as a explod.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 04, 2019, 11:20:40 am
Thanks Shinzankuro.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 05, 2019, 06:41:59 am
NEW SPRITES based on Original sprites.

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand11.gif)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/slp10.gif)(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/smp10.gif)(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/ssp10.gif)

(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/slk10.gif)(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/smk10.gif)(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/ssk10.gif)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mr.Karate JKA on March 05, 2019, 04:59:27 pm
With the force field u soldier use an idle animation that you can use as stance
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 07, 2019, 03:41:18 am
i'm studying and researching about different methods to make sprites.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 07, 2019, 05:01:21 am
(https://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/image210.gif)

STAND ANIMATION created with Graphicsgale using a unique sprite with the tutorial of gladiacloud.

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 10, 2019, 07:20:30 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/crouch11.gif)
crouch stance - revamped

i need to fit the crouch kicks here, because the punches will work ok.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 10, 2019, 04:50:32 pm
Unknown soldier is working better being a floating char.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: The Shakunetsu on March 11, 2019, 09:00:22 pm
Agree, with both storm and magneto in walking animation that seems floating too. fits him.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 12, 2019, 05:58:42 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_16.gif)
stand light punch for the new floating system.

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 12, 2019, 09:37:22 pm
on the ground he looks totally awkward.

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 13, 2019, 07:19:25 pm
I did solve the floating issues.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 15, 2019, 08:01:06 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_17.gif)
new stand light punch made with Graphicsgale with the Gladiacloud tutorial.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Umezono on March 15, 2019, 08:44:49 am
His punch looks way too limp wristed. You would break your hand punching like that, it doesn't look right for a seasoned fighter.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mr. Giang on March 15, 2019, 02:09:54 pm
His punch looks way too limp wristed. You would break your hand punching like that, it doesn't look right for a seasoned fighter.

Agree. Old Light Punch looks way better IMO.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 15, 2019, 04:23:07 pm
Thank you guys
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Post by: Mazemerald. on March 16, 2019, 06:00:44 am
(https://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/new_pu11.gif)
stand light punch for the new floating system.

Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 16, 2019, 10:00:12 pm
I'm changing his voice.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 18, 2019, 06:02:43 am
(http://i.servimg.com/u/f41/19/90/12/32/stand_18.gif)
stand medium punch

now Unknown Soldier is a character totally floating like storm and magneto.

but he will have a flight system yet.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: lui on March 18, 2019, 06:32:10 am
that's good!

it's a much better step up from your previous attempts! :)
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: R565 on March 18, 2019, 06:51:02 am
that's good!

it's a much better step up from your previous attempts! :)

I agree! It's good looking and it makes sense from a combat point of view.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mr.Karate JKA on March 18, 2019, 11:12:33 am
that's good!

it's a much better step up from your previous attempts! :)

Agree!!! Nice work!!!!
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Post by: Umezono on March 18, 2019, 12:42:04 pm
how do you plan to do the crouch/crouching basics now that he will be floating? will you be reworking your older attempts or redoing it completely?
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on March 18, 2019, 05:55:51 pm
how do you plan to do the crouch/crouching basics now that he will be floating? will you be reworking your older attempts or redoing it completely?

The crouch kicks and punches will be redone.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: The Shakunetsu on March 19, 2019, 12:22:56 pm
the medium punch was great
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Post by: Mazemerald. on March 21, 2019, 03:38:51 am
the medium punch is great

i'm glad you like it.
Title: Re: Unknown Soldier - Marvel vs Capcom Assist helper W.I.P
Post by: Mazemerald. on May 02, 2019, 04:55:43 am
time to go on updating this char.... i did take a time to see other projects, but now it´s need to restart.