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#1  December 25, 2008, 03:00:22 pm
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#2  December 25, 2008, 03:10:58 pm
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Argh, MadCatz -_-
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#3  December 25, 2008, 03:20:25 pm
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Are these joysticks PC Compatible?
YES. YES. YES.
At most you might need to download drivers from Microsoft's site for the 360 versions.

Are these joysticks wired?
Yes, USB for both 360 and PS3.

How Much do these things cost?
The regular Fight stick is 70 for the PS3 and 80 for the 360. The Tournament edition is 150 bucks.

Why is the 360 one ten dollars more?
Because Microsoft has higher licensing fees for accessories than Sony.

When are these going to be available?
Around the same time as Street Fighter 4 is released.

Where can I get one of these?
Amazon has them up for pre-order, if brick and mortar is more your style Gamestop are taking pre-orders as well. You'll have to put down fifty dollars for the Tournament stick in advance, which goes towards the purchase.

Can I walk in on that day and pick one up?
Very unlikely. Stores will only stock the Tournament edition if you pre-order, and while some of the more popular Gamestops might have a few of the regular edition in stock, it would be best to pre-order to make sure you get one. Supplies will be limited.

What about those of us outside of the United States?
The sticks WILL be available in the UK, but details are still scarce. Other than than not much has been said.

Will there be a territorial lockout on the sticks?
No, they'll work on any region system.

Why does the Tournament edition cost twice as much?
All the reasons have not been revealed yet, but what we've heard so far:
-Genuine Sanwa arcade joysticks and buttons, the same ones found on official Street fighter 4 arcade cabinets in Japan
-Larger and heavier base (heavier than an HRAP)
-Other neat things like a compartment in the back for storing the cable, a switch which disables the pause and guide buttons, an ability to connect two Tournament edition sticks together side by side(or did I hear that wrong?) and more that hasn't been revealed.

When is that stuff going to be revealed?
-Mad Catz is holding the info until January, likely around the time as CES (Consumer Electronics Show, January 8-11)

Does that mean the regular edition is crap?
No. According to those who are in the know, it's a better stick out of the box than Hori's Fighting stick ex2 or Fighting stick 3. In addition it is easily moddable, as in replacing the joystick and buttons (wired up using a 5 pin connector and quick disconnects, just like the Tournament edition).

Do the 360 joysticks have headset ports?
Yes.

Are the sticks four-way or eight way?
They have square gates, which are the norm for Japanese sticks. (By the way, that's still eight way, but you can feel the corners.) If you so choose you could replace the gate with a Octagonal Restrictor Plate to make it feel more round.

Is the top panel (the artwork) of the Tournament edition still replaceable?
Unclear on this one, it was a feature originally promised but might have been cut as a compromise for one reason or another.


Why don't these joysticks work with both systems (like the anniversary stick)?
Because Microsoft won't allow it, security chips needed to have a controller work on a 360, Etc...

What if I want to mod the joystick to work with both 360 and PS3?
You should probably get the 360 one.

Are the PCBs in the sticks Common Ground?
Yes.

Are there Six or Eight buttons?
Eight.

Eight? Why?! (whine...)
Besides, too many pages were already spent arguing about that.

What sort of button layout is it using?
Reportedly, a layout very similar to a Vewlix Cabinet.

What is the case made out of?
Plastic with metal panels on the top and bottom.

Are the buttons Screw ins or Snap ins?
Snaps.

Can I put a Seimitsu Stick in either version?
Yeah.

Are these joysticks PC Compatible?
Yes.
Yes.
YES.
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#4  December 26, 2008, 12:16:27 am
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Why hasn't anybody posted about the joy sticks yet? - http://www.gamestop.com/browse/search.aspx?N=0&Ntk=TitleKeyword&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntt=street%20fighter%204

Better pre-order them now before they sell out. Otherwise, you're gonna be stuck using D-Pad. :)

I really want that Tournament Edition stick, looks really slick, like they chopped it out of a cabinet. Has Sanwa buttons too. <3
I'm waiting for more information.  If all that MadCatz did was knockoff what other popular, quality Japanese joysticks do, then you're paying at least $50 more than what the others are charging.  Then you're stuck with a joystick that always has SFIV on it...


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#5  December 26, 2008, 12:29:01 am
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MarkMan was in charge of designing the stick, so it has to be a top notch quality product.

If all that MadCatz did was knockoff what other popular, quality Japanese joysticks do, then you're paying at least $50 more than what the others are charging. 

A Hori Real Arcade Pro 3 for the PS3 costs about 180 dollars, including shipping @ Play-Asia.
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#6  December 26, 2008, 12:34:41 am
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I do not understand the appeal of Joysticks, other than actually making one yourself or modifying something in it.
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#7  December 26, 2008, 01:03:08 am
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It's all about that arcade at home feel. Fighters were simply designed to play best with joysticks. D-Pad's will just give you a sore thumb.
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#8  December 26, 2008, 01:52:17 am
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Specially when plating with charge characters like Dictator or Guile. I recently got a Hori Stick and it works really fine; at first I was a bit unconfortable because the base of the joystick is square but you get used with time. I recommend that stick.
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#9  December 26, 2008, 03:50:59 am
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After you work through the thumb blisters you get a callus and your thumb never blisters or bleeds again. I did that LONG ago with SMB3 and again with SFA1 for PS1 =P

I can't use arcade sticks to do anything. Not even a fireball... they seem so odd to me.
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I do not understand the appeal of Joysticks, other than actually making one yourself or modifying something in it.
D-pads suck for fighters.  It's almost as bad as playing someone with a pad in FPS when they are using mouse / keyboard.


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#11  December 26, 2008, 04:37:51 am
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After you work through the thumb blisters you get a callus and your thumb never blisters or bleeds again. I did that LONG ago with SMB3 and again with SFA1 for PS1 =P

I can't use arcade sticks to do anything. Not even a fireball... they seem so odd to me.

Whaa? I thought you owned an Arcade Stick though. I can play on them pretty decent :D
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#12  December 26, 2008, 04:46:59 am
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You've always been pretty weird TDS but you can't even use an arcade stick right? o_O
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#13  December 26, 2008, 04:53:01 am
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What if I'm best on a keyboard, good on a gamepad, but horrible at arcade sticks?

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#14  December 26, 2008, 05:00:14 am
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D-pads suck for fighters.
Only those who use nothing but sticks say that... Pads don't just suck, they're alright even if sticks may be better according to people who use them. I can't do a hcf or a dp on a stick to save my life though, I always hits up-forward instead of just forward ; and with the stick, you need to move your hand more to perform a motion, which is, if you think about it, quite contradictory in theory when you really want to have the best reaction-execution time possible. Keyboards should be fine as an inbetween - except for Double Somersault-like commands and 720...
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#15  December 26, 2008, 05:08:51 am
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Whaa? I thought you owned an Arcade Stick though. I can play on them pretty decent :D
I do. I got the SF2 Anniversary one years back.

I just am not patient enough. After 30 minutes to an hour I get frustrated and stop playing or put back in the control pad.

You've always been pretty weird TDS but you can't even use an arcade stick right? o_O
You can play with that phallic thing >:( jk

No arcades here growing up. Never bought one till I got the Anniversary one. By then I had/have been used to the SNES>PS1>Saturn(liked it best)>PS2 controllers.

I can't do a hcf or a dp on a stick to save my life though, I always hits up-forward instead of just forward
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I also seem to jump every time I attempt a charge motion. Going from back to forward. Heck I jump just trying to walk sometimes o_O
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#16  December 26, 2008, 12:22:09 pm
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Me neither, didnt had arcades around while growing up, D pads and even psx pads were the norm for me, only move I couldnt do was the 720.
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#17  December 26, 2008, 01:10:21 pm
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I prefer a pad.

What Byakko said, also, pulling a fireball motion in a pad is fractions of seconds faster...or something.
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#18  December 26, 2008, 01:13:28 pm
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That is why we have charge characters.
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#19  December 26, 2008, 01:53:00 pm
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I bought an arcade stick at play-asia. Although the shipment was 100$ I wanted to have this device for fightings. But, just like Just No Point, I couldn't adapt myself to it. Keyboard is just so much faster. You only have to move your fingers while on arcade sticks you have to move a whole wrist. Especially I had troubles with short jumps, running and DMs -_-.
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#20  December 26, 2008, 02:01:57 pm
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I've always preferred Keyboard over a D-Pad or an Arcade Stick, no soreness or pain and very easy.