Matachi said, June 02, 2010, 01:28:33 pmNero D. said, June 02, 2010, 04:43:54 amYou quoted your own signature that you made from your own quote.Yes I did.Fixed slightly.Brak's Dad said, June 02, 2010, 03:00:11 amOrochi Bigsally said, June 02, 2010, 02:55:54 amBigSally 2012I don't think America is ready for an openly gay president. Especially one that likes getting raped. And is a racist.llVChronO'Reilly said, June 02, 2010, 03:01:29 amHe's already got my vote.
I love people who say our country was founded by god or based on the bible. An atheist writes a book called "Common Sense" which starts the revolutionary war. A group of enlightenment movement guys have a revolution, they make a deceleration that this country will be ruled by Man and Law and not Religion and a King, which was written by two atheists and one Christian enlightenment person.Then we have a war.Then we write a constitution that is completely devoid of god.Then less than 75 years ago, two wing nuts put, "in god we trust" on our money and make us say a pledge in the morning that says "under god"Suddenly we are a Christian, god founded, bible following based country. It boggles the mind.
+10000 dude as an atheist I can attest, it's more annoying than anything. And I'm not even gonna count the amount of times I got flak for not pledging.
ChronO'Reilly said, June 02, 2010, 05:45:23 pmshitHey, ever notice no one ever really entertains your posts?Well this is about my first and last time.Just a notice. No one cares.
The nerve what's up with people today smh. I know that wasn't aimed at me. You can't be as stupid as that Luigi guy.
Shamrock said, June 02, 2010, 02:34:59 pmI love people who say our country was founded by god or based on the bible. An atheist writes a book called "Common Sense" which starts the revolutionary war. A group of enlightenment movement guys have a revolution, they make a deceleration that this country will be ruled by Man and Law and not Religion and a King, which was written by two atheists and one Christian enlightenment person.They weren't atheists, they were deists.
Afraid you need to look at your history. Thomas Payne, Jefferson, and Franklin were Atheists. Adams was a devout Christian who's best friend was Jefferson (And worse enemy later), but believed in science. The congressman copied Adam's or Boston's constitution and those congressman varied from Atheists to Quakers. Now a days, an Atheist couldn't even win a primary, but back then, they were the founding fathers. Thomas Payne's book started the Revolution, Jefferson wrote the deceleration of independence which has god not capitalized and Men capitalized. Also the king was given his power to rule by God, so the deceleration of independence was independence from religion or church as well as England. So yeah,
I'm just repeating what I learned in my AP US History class. And Wikipedia confirms it:List of Deist thinkers, Wikipedia said:Benjamin FranklinThomas PaineJefferson wasn't strictly a deist, he was more like an agnostic:Thomas Jefferson, Wikipedia said:The religious views of Thomas Jefferson diverged widely from the orthodox Christianity of his day. Throughout his life Jefferson was intensely interested in theology, biblical study, and morality. He is most closely connected with the religious philosophy of Deism, and Unitarianism. He is reported to have said, "Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blind-folded fear."
You are right about Jefferson because of writings of his that I read, but Payne? Come on man. He hated Christianity and or theism?Alright I'll just give in so we can stay on topic, and the point still stands that they were not Christians. I mean hell, Jefferson wrote a version of the new testament that had all the impossible stuff taken out. It was only a quarter or the original size after.
anthonygamer said, June 02, 2010, 03:17:04 pmMatachi said, June 02, 2010, 03:28:23 amI'm one assholeWell if you say so. I don't know how you are going to tell me what my political ideologies are...
Shamrock said, June 02, 2010, 08:53:57 pmAlright I'll just give in so we can stay on topic, and the point still stands that they were not Christians.Well, that's obvious.
Shamrock said, June 02, 2010, 08:53:57 pmYou are right about Jefferson because of writings of his that I read, but Payne? Come on man. He hated Christianity and or theism?Alright I'll just give in so we can stay on topic, and the point still stands that they were not Christians. I mean hell, Jefferson wrote a version of the new testament that had all the impossible stuff taken out. It was only a quarter or the original size after.what he removed the magic and bunny tricks? that sucks I consider myself an atheist but i like reading the bible and i'm planning to study koran. gotta love those fairy tales. my favourite part when budd- err christ when he preached and told the people about the golden ru- err 8 beatitudes. and how god murdered people back in the day to amuse himself what a merciful god he is.
Shamrock said, June 02, 2010, 02:34:59 pmI love people who say our country was founded by god or based on the bible. An atheist writes a book called "Common Sense" which starts the revolutionary war. A group of enlightenment movement guys have a revolution, they make a deceleration that this country will be ruled by Man and Law and not Religion and a King, which was written by two atheists and one Christian enlightenment person.Then we have a war.Then we write a constitution that is completely devoid of god.Then less than 75 years ago, two wing nuts put, "in god we trust" on our money and make us say a pledge in the morning that says "under god"Suddenly we are a Christian, god founded, bible following based country. It boggles the mind.LOL, I didn't know this. Kinda wish I knew this in high school so that I would have a valid excuse for not standing and saying the pledge.
