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Started by Kirishima, February 27, 2019, 03:08:36 pm
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#101  June 30, 2019, 05:47:21 am
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Just as I was getting used to the peace and quiet, someone have to take a match to this tank of gas and make everything lit up again.

Regardless, I still am in the wait and see mode in regards to this entire charade. As for my response to the entire ordeal about some of the Pokemon getting the cut, it is a solid meh. Meh, as in I, seemingly enough, am quite neutral about this. I am not exactly too thrilled nor I am very outraged. I'm just calm.

Then again, it should be obvious who is my favorite Pokemon is and maybe it is a contributing factor on why I am very calm...
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#102  July 02, 2019, 11:34:21 pm
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So to at least bring some conversation that's not death and destruction to all mankind, a thought occurs to me.  Would dynamaxing mix with eviolite?  The hypothetical design behind usage of dynamax is the supposed fair use of every pokemon included in the game regardless of where it sits on the evolutionary line.  This more-or-less was also the thought process behind eviolite, just not very effective in practice outside Porygon 2 being drastically different than its following evolution.

Has anyone who's tested the demo gone into poking around the Pokémon stats when transformed, what items they were holding, does the transformation keep them out of play until its over or what?

Guess that topic wasn't a popular one to discuss.  Anyways, new trailer out today.


So, Gigantamaxing, just as leaked prior.  Guess that's something to look forward to more actual details on how it functions.  Also there's a new Geodude, a Steel/Dragon living letter "L" and a cake pokemon that's not Slurpuff.
Last Edit: July 08, 2019, 04:31:42 pm by Long John Killer
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#103  July 08, 2019, 04:39:41 pm
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Rolycoly is the Galar Region's Geodude.  A Rock-type Pokémon with Heatproof and the new ability Steam Engine that boost Speed when hit by a Water or Fire move.
New white Pokemon is Duraludon, Steel/Dragon with abilties Light Metal/Heavy Metal.

New mechanic is called Gigantamax that changes certain Pokemon's form as well as a "G-Max" move.  Drednaw is one of them.  Alcremie is a Fairy-type cream Pokemon with Sweet Veil and it becomes a large sentient cake Pokemon with this feature.

Larvitar is exclusive to Shield while Jangmo-o is exclusive to Sword.  Both however can be redeemable via codes when you purchase the dual pack steelbook that gives you Dynamax Crystals.

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#104  July 08, 2019, 04:48:03 pm
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So we have a cupcake that becomes a giant cake, a moving coal and a iron cannon dragon...
This looks impressive so far!
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#105  July 08, 2019, 04:50:47 pm
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Golly gee would you look at that.  There are more mechanics in the game than what the limited E3 demo showed off.  Boy howdy I sure am glad I waited until we had all the information to make a judgement about the game and didn’t just throw a giant hissy fit over nothing.  That would’ve been super embarrassing.

Gigantamax Corviknight looks Dark Souls as hell.  Definitely want one of those on my team.
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#106  July 08, 2019, 04:54:43 pm
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Golly gee would you look at that.  There are more mechanics in the game than what the limited E3 demo showed off.  Boy howdy I sure am glad I waited until we had all the information to make a judgement about the game and didn’t just throw a giant hissy fit over nothing.  That would’ve been super embarrassing.

Gigantamax Corviknight looks Dark Souls as hell.  Definitely want one of those on my team.
Yeah, big mechanic, its a giant uninspired Mega Evolution, soooooo new. TRASH.
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#107  July 08, 2019, 04:59:12 pm
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It's not exactly like this changes much of anything, there's still Pokémon missing and they're still intending for this poor trend to continue.  As bratty as people were, I'm fairly certain most were also keen to the fact that there's more to see.  Just the unlikelihood of it counter-balancing the removal of one of the reasons to play.  And I'm sure there will be more neat things to come, like that UK Rock-based soundtrack or supposedly they might keep their word with something post-game like a Battle Frontier to do, but for many I can fairly see why it doesn't matter anymore.

I am once again wondering since the initial Gigantamaxing leak came out if their plan for losing Megas is only in name and Pokémon like Pidgeot or Gardevoir who need them to get by will still be getting all of the stat improvements and ability changes, just under a different name with Gigantamaxing.  Would be on par for them to save the workload reusing the Mega models as well.

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So, Gigantamaxing, just as leaked prior.
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Last Edit: July 08, 2019, 05:04:12 pm by Long John Killer
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#108  July 08, 2019, 07:07:29 pm
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Golly gee would you look at that.  There are more mechanics in the game than what the limited E3 demo showed off.  Boy howdy I sure am glad I waited until we had all the information to make a judgement about the game and didn’t just throw a giant hissy fit over nothing.  That would’ve been super embarrassing.

Gigantamax Corviknight looks Dark Souls as hell.  Definitely want one of those on my team.
Yeah, big mechanic, its a giant uninspired Mega Evolution, soooooo new. TRASH.

They take out mega evolutions and z-moves and you bitch about it.
They add a new mechanic that functions as both mega evolutions and z-moves in one and you bitch about it.

And they wonder why Pokémon fanboys have this reputation of being unpleasable, entitled brats. 
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#109  July 08, 2019, 07:24:13 pm
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Person Man you're not being well behaved yourself :3c

Anyways Alcremie would be better if it turned into Illbleed's Cake From Hell. Also I love how they're replacing mega evolution with...mega evolution but for a few turns. *Shrug*

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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#110  July 08, 2019, 10:59:12 pm
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And they wonder why Pokémon fanboys have this reputation of being unpleasable, entitled brats. 
Sounds more like you're white-knighting than I'm being entitled. I have all the right to complain about something being outright REMOVED from the series, specially the one thing that was always the main point of the series: catching ALL pokémon.
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#111  July 08, 2019, 11:32:16 pm
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#112  July 08, 2019, 11:41:59 pm
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Person Man you're not being well behaved yourself :3c

You know what, that’s totally fair.  This is clearly not going to lead anywhere productive.

I also do want to call myself out for getting totally blown up with this announcement; There I was getting all excited that they’d take the opportunity to clear out some of the less inspired Pokémon like the ice cream cone, and now they throw in a new one that’s just a pile of whipped cream and strawberries.
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#113  July 08, 2019, 11:53:37 pm
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I look forward to this thread every time its bumped just to see new complaints Macaulyn97 can come up with, and boy has he delivered
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#114  July 08, 2019, 11:55:50 pm
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There I was getting all excited that they’d take the opportunity to clear out some of the less inspired Pokémon like the ice cream cone, and now they throw in a new one that’s just a pile of whipped cream and strawberries.

A cream that kills dragons to a cake that makes creamy meteors rain, that sounds fun.
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#115  July 09, 2019, 01:49:51 am
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You all do realize that Garbodor and Vanilluxe have been seen in the game. They in. I honestly don't get the hate for the likes of Garbodor, Electrode, and Vanilluxe because if anything it's kinda great how much personality they were able to put into such simple and silly concepts.

it's because they are already content with what they have done, mugen is not a paying job so as long as the charcter works for a creator that's enough; one's persons crouching while running is another person's change it to pots style.
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#116  July 09, 2019, 02:48:39 am
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I look forward to this thread every time its bumped just to see new complaints Macaulyn97 can come up with, and boy has he delivered
I didn't bump it, we got a new trailer and a mechanic "reveal" that recycles shit and pretends to be new.

There I was getting all excited that they’d take the opportunity to clear out some of the less inspired Pokémon like the ice cream cone, and now they throw in a new one that’s just a pile of whipped cream and strawberries.

A cream that kills dragons to a cake that makes creamy meteors rain, that sounds fun.

She is just lovely, and she isn't even the first sweet that kills dragons in the series.

You all do realize that Garbodor and Vanilluxe have been seen in the game. They in. I honestly don't get the hate for the likes of Garbodor, Electrode, and Vanilluxe because if anything it's kinda great how much personality they were able to put into such simple and silly concepts.
Don't let Gen 1 worshippers hear you comparing the incredibly original, unique and inspired Electrode being compared to those filthy Gen 5 pokes.
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#117  July 09, 2019, 02:52:58 am
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You all do realize that Garbodor and Vanilluxe have been seen in the game. They in. I honestly don't get the hate for the likes of Garbodor, Electrode, and Vanilluxe because if anything it's kinda great how much personality they were able to put into such simple and silly concepts.

My biggest gripe has always been that these are supposed to be the wildlife of this world, and a lot of these "here's an object I saw laying around the office" Pokemon could never possibly exist in nature, even in Pokemon-world's fucked up magical version of nature.  Like, there is no way you can convince me there is any ecosystem that would facilitate a plastic bag full of human-produced trash sprouting googly eyes and starting to walk around.  Nor is there any evolutionary benefit for an animal to assume the appearance and smell of a bag of garbage.

It doesn't take much for me honestly, just make it at least passably convincing that it could actually be considered an animal.
Last Edit: July 09, 2019, 01:16:49 pm by Person Man
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#118  July 09, 2019, 04:53:09 am
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If I can interject, on the subject of these Pokémon designs, I'm on Person Man's side.  For the most part, the thing is if they don't fit perfectly then at least make them entertaining, special, something unique.  And bumping off Macaulyn97's remark on Electrode, something the old "items turned into monsters" critters had over newer ones was their clear intent of being spawned by the villains.  While the details aren't ever fully written out, the Voltorb line clearly is being produced and enslaved by Team Rocket, they're an artificially created race that's new to the world, something the organization has a habit of doing. (Mewtwo, likely tied to Grimer, I think Porygon was explicitly from them, hence why you only find them from the Rocket-owned casino).  And the garbage sludge mutated into a sentient being that is the Grimer line is as basic a "reap what you sow" monster you can get from big companies causing pollution.  While neither is exactly anything to write home about, they each have their purpose in the world created and I like them plenty for it.

The trouble following monsters have is, well, they don't have that purpose.  They're just there, trying to be natural.  Garbodor is trying to ape off Grimer, without the context and stretching a bit too far to really be taken seriously that the entire species grew plastic bags as some form of makeshift exoskeleton.  And the ice cream cones are just that, ice cream for no rhyme or reason.  They're "cute", but hard to really accept as realistic given the circumstances.

As for this latest one, Alcremie, I like it, it's cute, I might try to keep one around, and they've already established a use for it in-world.  It jut remains to see if it's an excuse people will buy lore-wise.
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#119  July 09, 2019, 05:20:38 am
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Isn't the Vanilluxe line just a bunch of stalactites covered in snow? This is fairly close to nature. Yes, sure, they're shaped like ice cream cones, but its implied in the games that ice creams were inspired by them, not the contrary, which makes their design more solid.
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#120  July 10, 2019, 02:49:52 am
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I'm gonna say this... I was bewildered by the Gigantamaxing mechanic. But I feel that is just Mega evolution mixed in with Dynamaxing and having G-moves, which obviously replaced Z-moves at this point alongside Max Moves. I feel that Gigantamaxing is for single-stage/fully evolved Pokemon only so I feel that Drednaw and Alcremie won't be evolving. I'm relieved that at least one of my 5 favorites made it, in which case is Jangmo-o. I do wonder if they'll reuse the Mega models for Gigantamaxing. However, I don't like how that only Pokemon found in Max Raid battles are capable are Gigantamaxing so this brings a little trouble for people who wanted to breed an excellent Pokemon to Gigantamax. I'm curious to see what G-Pangoro, G-Steelix, G-Tyranitar and G-Kommo-o look like.

I also noticed with the trainer customization we have the option to go hatless once more and this time we have the option to wear gloves or not so I hope they have better customization options to make the player stand out better.

Having exclusive Gym Leaders is an interesting thing... Sword has Bea while Shield has Allister. They've done this with BW1 but Drayden and Iris had the same team and both are Dragon trainers, just their Pokemon's genders are based off theirs. My hype for this game's been significantly restored but it's not the same as it was when I first saw the reveal. They also revealed the winner of the strongest Steel move.



It is known in Japan as Exhaustive Beam or Do-or-die. It's a special variant of Mind Blown to an extent and is Duraludon's sig move (Maybe). Single target. 140 BP, 8 PP max but after the attack, Duraludon loses half of its Max HP, meaning if it uses the move after its HP drop to 50% or below (Yellow bar), it'll faint after using the move.
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