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Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 28, 2012, 05:38:25 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

FUCK YOU ZAN LIKE FUCK YOU  SERIOUSLY FUCK YOU!, THAT WAS ONE OF EVIL CRUEL SHIT U CAN DO  TOO SOMEONE! U TALKING ABOUT COPY RIGHTED SHIT WHILE YOU SPRITE ON TOP OF THEIR MATERIAL U  FUCKING HYPROCRITE!, PLEASE BAN IS ASS N HIS IP ADDRESS HE IS REALLY PISSING ME THE FUCK OFF NOW! YOU JUST mAD CAUSE YOU're BROKE, u CANt EVEN GAIN HALF THE TALENT THEN MOST OF THESE SPRITERs on here! U SIT THEIR N BITCH ABOUT WHAT IM DOING, OBVIOUSLY U ARE A HATER

I don't charge for copyrighted stuff.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 28, 2012, 05:33:20 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

Like I said.

I asked on here if it was fair for Garuda to pay for them sprites when they were free for everyone else. Then I realised the content shouldn't have been charged for anyway as Gouken is owned by Capcom to which I never received a straight answer for and after been insulted I searched for a contact for Capcom to ask them.

As you guys were adamant that no rules or copyright laws had been broken I assumed you'd be fine with me asking then you turned it into this shitfest.

If nothing comes of it then why worry?
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 28, 2012, 05:23:49 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 28, 2012, 05:09:31 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 28, 2012, 05:00:29 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

Hello,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

I have contacted the legal department and they will contact the person responsible for those sprites.

Regards,

Carlos@
Capcom Tech Support.

Make what you will of that.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 28, 2012, 03:23:49 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

If you want I can copy the fucking Capcom Email across here to show I was fucking right.

How many times do I have to explain it?

I read in the rules that it is against Mugen rules to do things for money due to property such as Gouken belonging to Capcom.

I got insulted for it which pissed me off so I asked Capcom.

Fuck off.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 28, 2012, 03:02:49 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

They why make all that shit up and force me to ask Capcom straight out.

I was not putting up with made to look stupid when I knew I was right.

4 pages of insults forced my hand to go above the supposed 'Know It All's' on this site and ask the copyright owners.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 28, 2012, 10:48:52 am View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

So Garuda paid for CVSAbstract's time when it came to spriting Gouken?

That just sounds like a cop out to cover their own backs.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 08:39:29 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

Ok, at this point I have to tell everybody the truth:

I didn't pay CvS for Gouken.

It was all set up so people would follow my example and commission him some art/sprites.

Now please stop this nonsense: since no money is involved there isn't problem, right Zan?

That's fair enough. The only problem I have is when I see money charged for fanart, sprites etc when I clearly see that companies such as Capcom, SNK etc say that this work can only be legally distributed free of charge because said companies still own them.

Then I read a lot of bullshit being flung around that money only changes hands due to the time spent on the work and not the actual work itself.

Sounds to me like people blatantly ignore the rules on these things and then spend pages and pages trying to justify themselves while throwing in a handful of empty insults.

I haven't flamed anyone, just read the rules and pointed out the few that people have forgotten about or choose to ignore because it benefits their wallets.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 08:26:13 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

Yep, Cvsnb's sprites don't belong to him, he didn't do any work on them at all!

Never said that. The copyright belongs to Capcom hence they are the only ones who can legally charge for them.

Why is it so difficult to grasp that simple concept?

    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 08:20:50 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 07:54:14 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

I have no problem with the commission just charging for the commission.

Capcom owns Gouken, Capcom can charge for Gouken.

Nobody else can because Capcom owns the copyright.

I feel like I'm talking in a foreign launguage here.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 07:43:03 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

Like I said, you can argue amongst yourselves and I'll get the copyright owners opinion on it.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 07:08:38 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

I'd rather get Capcom's official stance on people making money on their works to be honest.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 04:26:53 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

This is why I asked Capcom direct because I've never got a straight answer from here.

I only did this due to getting insults instead of answers.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 03:49:56 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

Course they fucking are, that has got to be the stupidest question I've ever heard.

I'm going from what I read in the Mugen rules 5 years ago, what I reread a couple of months ago.

What I read in the 'Why Capcom Won't Sue Mugen' thread and what I read in an Email from Capcom.

Believe what you want.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 03:45:22 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

I had no problem until I found out Capcom's work was being sold.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 03:41:27 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

I don't call it reporting. I just wanted a straight answer and wasn't getting one from here.
    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 03:37:01 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

What do you think the result would be if I did link to this thread?

You'd find out that after asking everyone on here about the breaking the rules and asking Capcom myself you'll find out I was right all along?

Only 1 way to find out I suppose.

    

Re: Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar)

 September 27, 2012, 03:25:52 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Zantetsuken  in Understand, understand, the concept of fanart (and bad grammar) (Started by Zantetsuken September 26, 2012, 08:22:47 pm
 Board: Hall of Fame

Never told them. I just asked because the supposed straight answers I was getting from here were just alterations to the rules to suit their own agenda.