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Hey Guys, I've been out for a while sorry.
Too much stuff to handle - deadlines and final project approaching.
I will try to catch-up asap.
I was trying for a month to learn how to use ikemen go/plus, but i gave up for now because i had many difficulties for using the engine.
1 - i didn't get convert my screenpacks to it, it needs a tutorial easier teaching how to do it. (readme - how to install)
2 - needs a download where there's folder with all files necessaries to run a model to you start to edit.
3 - it's not clear to me which version is being used for now ikemen go or ikemen plus.
4 - there are many documents and you don't understand the use for each one of them.
5 - although the engine has a lot of potential, but you do not even know where to start.
6 - things like increase the numbers of slots or positioning them on screen seems to be a complex editing.
7 - the exe. should run with a model done for use as the mugen when you download without editing.
8 - It's very strange that other forum members are not here to comment and supporting this engine
it can indicate they think this engine is complex too much to use.
9 - maybe my expectations about some features are a dream very ambitious.
10 - but surely you deserve congrats for all efforts to take your time for researching about.
-------------------------
ESPAÑOL
Durante un mes intenté aprender a usar ikemen go / plus, pero por el momento me rendí porque tuve muchas dificultades para usar la engine.
1 - No conseguí convertir mis screenpack pa' él, necesita un tutorial que enseñe cómo hacerlo. (readme - cómo instalar)
2 - necesita una descarga donde hay una carpeta con todos los archivos necesarios para ejecutar un modelo para comenzar a editar.
3 - no me queda claro qué versión se está utilizando para ahora ikemen go o ikemen plus.
4 - Hay muchos documentos y no entiendes el uso de cada uno de ellos.
5 - aunque la engine tiene mucho potencial, pero ni siquiera sabes por dónde empezar.
6 - cosas como aumentar la cantidad de espacios o posicionarlos en la pantalla parece ser una edición compleja.
7 - el exe. Debería ejecutarse con un modelo hecho para usar así como Mugen cuando descargalo por la primera vez.
8 - Es muy extraño que otros miembros del foro no estén aquí para comentar y dar soporte a esta engine.
puede indicar que piensan que esta engine es demasiada compleja para usarla.
9 - tal vez mis expectativas sobre algunas funcciones sean un sueño muy ambicioso.
10 - pero seguramente mereces felicitaciones por todos los esfuerzos por dedicar tu tiempo a investigar su uso.
Hello Mazemerald, please check the installers (that will download all mugen dependencies during installation process).
https://github.com/danielporto/Ikemen_GO/releases
You will end up with a working version of Ikemen go plus for your platform.
After that, if you will, you can get the latest binaries from Gagel's repo.
I will try to build an updated version of the installer soon.
Cheers.
Even this engine being extremely more modern than Mugen, some people have resistance to use it for don't understand completely how to use it.
I think short videos with these themes can attract easier the users.
Example:
1 - How to make animated portraits
2 - how to put fighting order and boss
3 - how to change the continue screen
4 - how to add cutscenes
5 - how to work the scores on lifebar
6 - how could be a basic story mode
7 - how to change palettes or alternate mode for the characters
8 - how to set up a storyline for a individual character
9 - how to config the resolution and filters in ikemen
10 - how to change to another char row on select screen.
A step by step from easy way and with short videos.
I think this is a separate issue (compared to code/features/tools/core development) and deserve a proper discussion venue. Perhaps 2Dee4Ever that's been pushing on this front could start this thread and gather people interested on it there and split the work. This thread could list the video tutorials.
Well guys.. All I can say.. I’ve been trying really really hard to sell Ikemen.(not literally) I can’t do it alone. A lot of things on your list aren’t Ikemen exclusive, or as said, it hasn’t gotten to that point yet. There are guides here from vanilla Ikemen that still work, I’ve made various videos as well, shown various examples. A lot of the work you’ll have to do yourself with code.(can’t put everything on developers) The lag definitely is your PC, I know it may seem obvious, but update your drivers especially if you have a graphics card.
Despite what you may think of me... I’ve been leading a solo crusade all this time with 0 support.. It wouldn’t be too far off to say that I’ve been influential in a lot of what you have now, the sudden interest, people coming back etc. Imagine if there were more of you doing the same. You have to get your hands dirty, that’s why I’ve been encouraging you all so hardcore.
I’ll break down your list when I have more time. You can’t be lazy with this, not everything is going to be automated. Putting in some work shouldn’t shy you away from this, it’s specifically why I said it’s appeal is mainly for projects.
2Dee4ever, not that this matter much but at least you sold Ikemen to me. :-)
I would say to not care too much about what people think. I think you work is extremely important to galvanize the community. At the end of the day all we want is to play the games and see they working on your videos is motivational. At least was to me.
Btw, you could also say what are your main problems on putting this together. We could design tools and features to make it easier.
Hey Dan, everything is working except the sound, it just keeps bringing up an error "OpenAL: Invalid name"
After some digging I think the problem seems related to the openal versions and binding. I tried to replace the OSX library for the custom installed and minimized the error messages but still no sound.
So far, I noticed the issue is mac only. Besides Windows, Linux works fine too.
I will first give a try on the android front then I go back to this. I think it will be more fun :-)
2Dee4Ever has done some game packs if I remember, I am pretty sure he did a darkstalkers game with this engine. https://youtu.be/2YnaQrvAKFY
Nice! I don't know how I forgot that! I actually discovered Ikemen through his channel hahaha!!
Thanks for the pointer!
I have seem some game packs done with Mugen (capcom, kof, dbz,...)
I wonder if is there any packs done with Ikemen that we can use to test.
I only test things with kfm and it sucks to spend more time searching/configuring resources than actually playing it.
(BTW that's a good idea for tool, one resource repository that works like apt/homebrew/chocolatey or Kodi repositories.)
Can you guys share links to any game bundle you did/know that uses Ikemen/Ikemen_GO/Ikemen_GO_plus?
Hey guys remember this bug:
Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
neatunsou fixed it.
https://osdn.net/users/neatunsou/pf/ikemen_go/scm/commits/56a748bae83456138131207742483873e739c958
I wish they comment in english hahaha.
Hey Dan, everything is working except the sound, it just keeps bringing up an error "OpenAL: Invalid name"
Good to hear that.
I notice there is no sound in my system too.
I will look into that now.
Hi there,
I've finished an Ikemen_GO_Plus multiplatform installer.
Until now, binaries for all platforms are made available but I think that's not sufficient.
Instructions to put all moving parts (Mugen dependencies, configuration files) in place carefully, can be daunting for newcomers.
I believe making this process easier can attract more developers, as they would be able to create/pack/distribute
custom games easily for all platforms (Linux/Windows/Mac) regardless of the platform they use to code.
Thus, I've chosen an installation builder and created a configuration sample to build the install wizards for all platforms.
Instructions on how to build and customize the installation wizard were added to README.md
As we cannot pack the Mugen dependencies alongside the Ikemen resources (due licensing), we
overcome this limitation by downloading it during the installation process.
I had to repack the Mugen dependencies zip file. The zip bundle seems to be malformed and extraction was failing when unpacking with the installer bundle, but the content is the same.
Files are available here: https://github.com/danielporto/Ikemen_GO/releases
@LebKeller, can you try the mac installer and launcher?
@Gacel, I've submitted a pull request.
....
So much updates the past months, time to finally port everything mugen over, slowly of course.
This sounds like music!
I hope to come up with the Ikemen installer for windows/linux/mac by the weekend.
Clearing up the mugen dependencies would be great!
dan could you please fix the left right input bug on controllers if you can?This is the reason why i dont use this engine.
Sorry Adnan, I'm currently solving the multiplataform bundle release and due time constraints, very slowly.
Please try to give more details on how to replicate the issue. Start by describing your environment and
stating what's already working.
cheers
I think we need a MacOS run guide.
Hey guys there is any way to kill a character without any hitbox.
That doesn't use any dangerous exploits.
sure thing.
We have two options, one: a guide with what we have now or two: after creating the DMG (install package).
The first guide is outlined in previous messages:
dan link=topic=184152.msg2437606#msg2437491 said:the easiest way to run it on mac is as follows:
1 - download the repository as a zip file: https://github.com/Windblade-GR01/Ikemen_GO/archive/master.zip
2 - download the binary released: https://github.com/Windblade-GR01/Ikemen_GO/releases/download/2019.04.11/Ikemen_GO_mac
3 - download the external mugen dependencies : http://www.mediafire.com/file/i2u70ordfjqj186/Ikemen_Mugen_Files.zip
4 - unpack the master.zip into a folder: Ikemen_GO
5 - unpack Ikemen_Mugen_Files.zip into a separate folder
6 - copy everything but the directory data from the Ikemen_Mugen_Files.zip into the Ikemen_GO folder
7 - copy the content of the data folder into Ikemen_Mugen_Files.zip (extracted folder) to Ikemen_GO/data (you have to merge both folders not replace)
8 - copy Ikemen_GO_mac into Ikemen_GO folder
at this point, you have everything in place, but the file Ikemen_GO_mac has no execution bit enabled. You'll need to enable it.
I don't know an easy way but opening the terminal, navigating to the Ikemen_GO folder (cd directory) and then run
Code:
chmod +x Ikemen_GO_mac
run: ./Ikemen_GO_mac
I think I fact we need both.
That's is related to the different audiences Ikemen targets: game developers and players.
For people who would like to use Ikemen as a development platform, building binaries is important for testing and so on.
But for those who want to play a game built with it, we need to provide install packages not only DMGs, but also EXE bundle and/or deb/rpm packages.
Thus people will easily install a game done with Ikemen (with custom stages, characters and so on)
What do you think?
okay Thank you! btw the way might the ^M at the end of the command lines be causing the problem?
The issue is the editor.
I would advise you to use visual studio code which is awesome for coding and editing configuration files. It's free, opensource and lightweight.
And yes.. the ^M is part of the problem.
But then again, we are circulating the problem instead of solving it.
Last login: Fri Apr 12 18:24:53 on ttys001
/Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen_GO/Ikemen\ 6.24.59\ PM ; exit;
macbooks-MacBook-Air:~ macbook$ /Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen_GO/Ikemen\ 6.24.59\ PM ; exit;
-bash: /Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen_GO/Ikemen 6.24.59 PM: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
logout
Saving session...
...copying shared history...
...saving history...truncating history files...
...completed.
[Process completed]
I think this is already a long conversation to solve a bug with a 'quick' hack.
Thats not the right way nor worthwhile. Please wait until a proper fix come out.
Until then, run Ikemen from the terminal like you did before.
Soon enough I hope to create a proper dmg file. As soon as I figure out how to create one
and after solving the sound issue ;-)
Cheers
Please download the script here: https://pastebin.com/RNWdXkey
There is a button "download" (amongst others)
save with the name Ikemen in the same folder of Ikemen_GO_mac
open the terminal, and navigate to the Ikemen_GO_mac folder
type:
chmod +x Ikemen
now, in Finder, double click Ikemen
that is the log if needed
@LebKeller:
I think you misunderstood.
the code I posted was the content of the script.
filename: Ikemen
content:
----
#!/bin/bash
cd $(dirname $0)
chmod +x Ikemen_GO_mac
./Ikemen_GO_mac
---
this file must be in the same directory of Ikemen_GO_mac
then after saving the content, you enable the exec bit for the file:
chmod +x Ikemen
that's it.
Do I need the open Al sound stuff?
Yes, but that normally comes with the OSX.
I even tried to install with homebrew but it didnt work.
I will check later.
Cheers.
Okay I ran it in the terminal and it works! However I am not getting any sound at all
TBH this is another bug. I will investigate later.
Do I have to run it from the terminal like this every time?
That's a bug. Thanks for finding it ;-)
alternatively, as a temporary fix, you can write a script for it
create a file named "Ikemen" in the same directory of Ikemen_GO_mac
add the following content:
Code: #!/bin/bash
cd $(dirname $0)
chmod +x Ikemen_GO_mac
./Ikemen_GO_mac
save, enable the exec bit:
chmod +x Ikemen
try double click it.
I am getting this message when I start it
Last login: Fri Apr 12 16:32:18 on ttys001
/Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen/Ikemen_GO_mac ; exit;
macbooks-MacBook-Air:~ macbook$ /Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen/Ikemen_GO_mac ; exit;
panic: open data/config.json: no such file or directory
......
[Process completed]
This seem to be a path issue.
run it from the same directory from the terminal.
Too much stuff to handle - deadlines and final project approaching.
I will try to catch-up asap.
I was trying for a month to learn how to use ikemen go/plus, but i gave up for now because i had many difficulties for using the engine.
1 - i didn't get convert my screenpacks to it, it needs a tutorial easier teaching how to do it. (readme - how to install)
2 - needs a download where there's folder with all files necessaries to run a model to you start to edit.
3 - it's not clear to me which version is being used for now ikemen go or ikemen plus.
4 - there are many documents and you don't understand the use for each one of them.
5 - although the engine has a lot of potential, but you do not even know where to start.
6 - things like increase the numbers of slots or positioning them on screen seems to be a complex editing.
7 - the exe. should run with a model done for use as the mugen when you download without editing.
8 - It's very strange that other forum members are not here to comment and supporting this engine
it can indicate they think this engine is complex too much to use.
9 - maybe my expectations about some features are a dream very ambitious.
10 - but surely you deserve congrats for all efforts to take your time for researching about.
-------------------------
ESPAÑOL
Durante un mes intenté aprender a usar ikemen go / plus, pero por el momento me rendí porque tuve muchas dificultades para usar la engine.
1 - No conseguí convertir mis screenpack pa' él, necesita un tutorial que enseñe cómo hacerlo. (readme - cómo instalar)
2 - necesita una descarga donde hay una carpeta con todos los archivos necesarios para ejecutar un modelo para comenzar a editar.
3 - no me queda claro qué versión se está utilizando para ahora ikemen go o ikemen plus.
4 - Hay muchos documentos y no entiendes el uso de cada uno de ellos.
5 - aunque la engine tiene mucho potencial, pero ni siquiera sabes por dónde empezar.
6 - cosas como aumentar la cantidad de espacios o posicionarlos en la pantalla parece ser una edición compleja.
7 - el exe. Debería ejecutarse con un modelo hecho para usar así como Mugen cuando descargalo por la primera vez.
8 - Es muy extraño que otros miembros del foro no estén aquí para comentar y dar soporte a esta engine.
puede indicar que piensan que esta engine es demasiada compleja para usarla.
9 - tal vez mis expectativas sobre algunas funcciones sean un sueño muy ambicioso.
10 - pero seguramente mereces felicitaciones por todos los esfuerzos por dedicar tu tiempo a investigar su uso.
Hello Mazemerald, please check the installers (that will download all mugen dependencies during installation process).
https://github.com/danielporto/Ikemen_GO/releases
You will end up with a working version of Ikemen go plus for your platform.
After that, if you will, you can get the latest binaries from Gagel's repo.
I will try to build an updated version of the installer soon.
Cheers.
Even this engine being extremely more modern than Mugen, some people have resistance to use it for don't understand completely how to use it.
I think short videos with these themes can attract easier the users.
Example:
1 - How to make animated portraits
2 - how to put fighting order and boss
3 - how to change the continue screen
4 - how to add cutscenes
5 - how to work the scores on lifebar
6 - how could be a basic story mode
7 - how to change palettes or alternate mode for the characters
8 - how to set up a storyline for a individual character
9 - how to config the resolution and filters in ikemen
10 - how to change to another char row on select screen.
A step by step from easy way and with short videos.
I think this is a separate issue (compared to code/features/tools/core development) and deserve a proper discussion venue. Perhaps 2Dee4Ever that's been pushing on this front could start this thread and gather people interested on it there and split the work. This thread could list the video tutorials.
Well guys.. All I can say.. I’ve been trying really really hard to sell Ikemen.(not literally) I can’t do it alone. A lot of things on your list aren’t Ikemen exclusive, or as said, it hasn’t gotten to that point yet. There are guides here from vanilla Ikemen that still work, I’ve made various videos as well, shown various examples. A lot of the work you’ll have to do yourself with code.(can’t put everything on developers) The lag definitely is your PC, I know it may seem obvious, but update your drivers especially if you have a graphics card.
Despite what you may think of me... I’ve been leading a solo crusade all this time with 0 support.. It wouldn’t be too far off to say that I’ve been influential in a lot of what you have now, the sudden interest, people coming back etc. Imagine if there were more of you doing the same. You have to get your hands dirty, that’s why I’ve been encouraging you all so hardcore.
I’ll break down your list when I have more time. You can’t be lazy with this, not everything is going to be automated. Putting in some work shouldn’t shy you away from this, it’s specifically why I said it’s appeal is mainly for projects.
2Dee4ever, not that this matter much but at least you sold Ikemen to me. :-)
I would say to not care too much about what people think. I think you work is extremely important to galvanize the community. At the end of the day all we want is to play the games and see they working on your videos is motivational. At least was to me.
Btw, you could also say what are your main problems on putting this together. We could design tools and features to make it easier.
Hey Dan, everything is working except the sound, it just keeps bringing up an error "OpenAL: Invalid name"
After some digging I think the problem seems related to the openal versions and binding. I tried to replace the OSX library for the custom installed and minimized the error messages but still no sound.
So far, I noticed the issue is mac only. Besides Windows, Linux works fine too.
I will first give a try on the android front then I go back to this. I think it will be more fun :-)
2Dee4Ever has done some game packs if I remember, I am pretty sure he did a darkstalkers game with this engine. https://youtu.be/2YnaQrvAKFY
Nice! I don't know how I forgot that! I actually discovered Ikemen through his channel hahaha!!
Thanks for the pointer!
I wonder if is there any packs done with Ikemen that we can use to test.
I only test things with kfm and it sucks to spend more time searching/configuring resources than actually playing it.
(BTW that's a good idea for tool, one resource repository that works like apt/homebrew/chocolatey or Kodi repositories.)
Can you guys share links to any game bundle you did/know that uses Ikemen/Ikemen_GO/Ikemen_GO_plus?
Hey guys remember this bug:Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty
neatunsou fixed it.
https://osdn.net/users/neatunsou/pf/ikemen_go/scm/commits/56a748bae83456138131207742483873e739c958
I wish they comment in english hahaha.
Hey Dan, everything is working except the sound, it just keeps bringing up an error "OpenAL: Invalid name"
Good to hear that.
I notice there is no sound in my system too.
I will look into that now.
I've finished an Ikemen_GO_Plus multiplatform installer.
Until now, binaries for all platforms are made available but I think that's not sufficient.
Instructions to put all moving parts (Mugen dependencies, configuration files) in place carefully, can be daunting for newcomers.
I believe making this process easier can attract more developers, as they would be able to create/pack/distribute
custom games easily for all platforms (Linux/Windows/Mac) regardless of the platform they use to code.
Thus, I've chosen an installation builder and created a configuration sample to build the install wizards for all platforms.
Instructions on how to build and customize the installation wizard were added to README.md
As we cannot pack the Mugen dependencies alongside the Ikemen resources (due licensing), we
overcome this limitation by downloading it during the installation process.
I had to repack the Mugen dependencies zip file. The zip bundle seems to be malformed and extraction was failing when unpacking with the installer bundle, but the content is the same.
Files are available here: https://github.com/danielporto/Ikemen_GO/releases
@LebKeller, can you try the mac installer and launcher?
@Gacel, I've submitted a pull request.
....
So much updates the past months, time to finally port everything mugen over, slowly of course.
This sounds like music!
I hope to come up with the Ikemen installer for windows/linux/mac by the weekend.
Clearing up the mugen dependencies would be great!
dan could you please fix the left right input bug on controllers if you can?This is the reason why i dont use this engine.
Sorry Adnan, I'm currently solving the multiplataform bundle release and due time constraints, very slowly.
Please try to give more details on how to replicate the issue. Start by describing your environment and
stating what's already working.
cheers
I think we need a MacOS run guide.
Hey guys there is any way to kill a character without any hitbox.
That doesn't use any dangerous exploits.
sure thing.
We have two options, one: a guide with what we have now or two: after creating the DMG (install package).
The first guide is outlined in previous messages:
dan link=topic=184152.msg2437606#msg2437491 said:
the easiest way to run it on mac is as follows:
1 - download the repository as a zip file: https://github.com/Windblade-GR01/Ikemen_GO/archive/master.zip
2 - download the binary released: https://github.com/Windblade-GR01/Ikemen_GO/releases/download/2019.04.11/Ikemen_GO_mac
3 - download the external mugen dependencies : http://www.mediafire.com/file/i2u70ordfjqj186/Ikemen_Mugen_Files.zip
4 - unpack the master.zip into a folder: Ikemen_GO
5 - unpack Ikemen_Mugen_Files.zip into a separate folder
6 - copy everything but the directory data from the Ikemen_Mugen_Files.zip into the Ikemen_GO folder
7 - copy the content of the data folder into Ikemen_Mugen_Files.zip (extracted folder) to Ikemen_GO/data (you have to merge both folders not replace)
8 - copy Ikemen_GO_mac into Ikemen_GO folder
at this point, you have everything in place, but the file Ikemen_GO_mac has no execution bit enabled. You'll need to enable it.
I don't know an easy way but opening the terminal, navigating to the Ikemen_GO folder (cd directory) and then run
Code:
chmod +x Ikemen_GO_mac
run: ./Ikemen_GO_mac
I think I fact we need both.
That's is related to the different audiences Ikemen targets: game developers and players.
For people who would like to use Ikemen as a development platform, building binaries is important for testing and so on.
But for those who want to play a game built with it, we need to provide install packages not only DMGs, but also EXE bundle and/or deb/rpm packages.
Thus people will easily install a game done with Ikemen (with custom stages, characters and so on)
What do you think?
okay Thank you! btw the way might the ^M at the end of the command lines be causing the problem?
The issue is the editor.
I would advise you to use visual studio code which is awesome for coding and editing configuration files. It's free, opensource and lightweight.
And yes.. the ^M is part of the problem.
But then again, we are circulating the problem instead of solving it.
Last login: Fri Apr 12 18:24:53 on ttys001
/Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen_GO/Ikemen\ 6.24.59\ PM ; exit;
macbooks-MacBook-Air:~ macbook$ /Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen_GO/Ikemen\ 6.24.59\ PM ; exit;
-bash: /Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen_GO/Ikemen 6.24.59 PM: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
logout
Saving session...
...copying shared history...
...saving history...truncating history files...
...completed.
[Process completed]
I think this is already a long conversation to solve a bug with a 'quick' hack.
Thats not the right way nor worthwhile. Please wait until a proper fix come out.
Until then, run Ikemen from the terminal like you did before.
Soon enough I hope to create a proper dmg file. As soon as I figure out how to create one
and after solving the sound issue ;-)
Cheers
There is a button "download" (amongst others)
save with the name Ikemen in the same folder of Ikemen_GO_mac
open the terminal, and navigate to the Ikemen_GO_mac folder
type:
chmod +x Ikemen
now, in Finder, double click Ikemen
that is the log if needed
@LebKeller:
I think you misunderstood.
the code I posted was the content of the script.
filename: Ikemen
content:
----
#!/bin/bash
cd $(dirname $0)
chmod +x Ikemen_GO_mac
./Ikemen_GO_mac
---
this file must be in the same directory of Ikemen_GO_mac
then after saving the content, you enable the exec bit for the file:
chmod +x Ikemen
that's it.
Do I need the open Al sound stuff?
Yes, but that normally comes with the OSX.
I even tried to install with homebrew but it didnt work.
I will check later.
Cheers.
Okay I ran it in the terminal and it works! However I am not getting any sound at all
TBH this is another bug. I will investigate later.
Do I have to run it from the terminal like this every time?
That's a bug. Thanks for finding it ;-)
alternatively, as a temporary fix, you can write a script for it
create a file named "Ikemen" in the same directory of Ikemen_GO_mac
add the following content:
Code:
#!/bin/bash
cd $(dirname $0)
chmod +x Ikemen_GO_mac
./Ikemen_GO_mac
save, enable the exec bit:
chmod +x Ikemen
try double click it.
I am getting this message when I start it
Last login: Fri Apr 12 16:32:18 on ttys001
/Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen/Ikemen_GO_mac ; exit;
macbooks-MacBook-Air:~ macbook$ /Users/macbook/Documents/Ikemen/Ikemen_GO_mac ; exit;
panic: open data/config.json: no such file or directory
......
[Process completed]
This seem to be a path issue.
run it from the same directory from the terminal.