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Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 20, 2018, 11:19:01 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Well, he feared the Super Saiyan legend (then Goku went Super Saiyan, then everyone went Super Saiyan, then Freeza got stronger too, but now there's a real Legendary Super Saiyan) but pretty much every single time he talks about Saiyans, he makes sure to mention his disdain for those monkeys like 20 times. He still goes at it another round in the Super manga with Caulifla and Kale. TBF, his hate boner for Saiyans is weird, he shits on them for being weak but he hates when the legend of the Super Saiyan comes up so much (along with the risk that he might turn on him) that he blows up the planet, and he still wants to prove his superiority to the remaining Saiyans by stomping them out even though they just won't stay down. It's like a wounded pride thing, he only thinks as himself being at the top so he insults their weakness and thinks they're just arrogant for having a legend like the Super Saiyan, and he won't admit that he never manages to wipe them out.
So I just don't see how that would work with him allowing Paragus in his ranks (even if we assume he doesn't know about Broly yet and only finds out late on that volcanic planet). He might be fine with keeping pets like when he kept Vegeta, Nappa, Raditz, but if there's an actual Legendary Super Saiyan that's even above the Super Saiyans, I can't see him fully appreciating Broly's power.

Apparently there are design sheets for all the forms Goku and Vegeta go through (black, gold, red, blue, even for Vegeta) and also Broly, who has a black haired thick mode, then a gold mode with the armor (I thought the poster where he was gold was a Toei coloring goof and I was wondering if he was really going to have a gold mode, glad to see it there), and finally green without the armor. They're treating thick black mode like a different form, that explains why he starts with his hair hanging low like in Toriyama topless sketch, and in most of the time in the trailer when he's already curbstomping everyone (even fighting Goku Blue), he has Caulifla hair (and green eyes).
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 20, 2018, 10:41:01 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Regardless what Paragus may think of Freeza, I wouldn't say Broly necessarily has a beef with him just from that fight, he just likes to body check everyone he meets. Like saying hello. Hell, so far, we've only seen him attack Goku and Vegeta on orders by Paragus, we don't even know to what extent he hates them. He seemed furious at Goku in the first teaser, but given this trailer, now it just looks like it's how he is in an average day.
It's just that apparently people have been wishing that Freeza would face the actual Legendary Super Saiyan for once, so they found a way to pitch them against each other. I just don't understand Freeza putting aside his desire to wipe out all monkeys long enough to care for Broly's magnificent power. And enlist both him and Paragus in his ranks on top of that (but Broly already has the new armor when he attacks Freeza, and it's on the same planet as the final blue vs green fight).
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 20, 2018, 03:10:20 am View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Damn, those fights look brutal (reminds me of the original movie) and with some good visual quality. Broly beating up two SSJ and body checking Freeza while in his base form is looking pretty cool.
Zen state against rage state sounds like it might get pretty frustrating fast, just watching Broly start punching the air a lot and failing to hit Goku who's just dancing around him, it doesn't really sound like a good match to me. It depends on how long they drag that out, but making it super short might be boring too. They avoided that in the Jiren fight by having Goku learn it gradually and failing at first, but I'm not sure they can pull off the same trick again (and the Jiren fight ended with everyone simply punching the shit out of each other in the face anyway).
At least they kept the "keep babies in a jar for a few years first" idea from Dragon Ball Minus. I don't see baby Carrot crying all the time in that liquid though, it's still not quite right IMO.
Yeah, Paragus looks younger when he finds the capsule. Broly is probably at least a teen when Paragus finds him, but I still don't see how he managed to slip him into Freeza's army once Freeza comes back. And I don't really get why Freeza is calling his power magnificent, I don't see him holding back his disgust for Saiyans for any reason. He doesn't seem anymore like he'd particularly pissed specifically at Goku, too. So anyway, the blue tights and white boots from Toriyama's rough design are from his wild phase, then Paragus finds him, and he gets a purple and green upgrade, then, right ?
Oh yeah, and since Paragus is probably finding that capsule after the planet was destroyed.... Then who the hell is that other Saiyan next to him ? Goku/Vegeta/Nappa/Raditz/Tarble were completely not the last remaining Saiyans at all ! What the fuck, Vegeta.
    

Re: Doctor Who Thread

 July 19, 2018, 11:27:49 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Doctor Who Thread (Started by Nucka January 08, 2010, 03:54:37 am
 Board: Entertainment

I now realize I never actually heard her voice before. I did see Attack the Block though... Glad they're letting loose on the thicker accents, anyway.
    

Re: EX / Fighting Layer: New Arika fighting game

 July 19, 2018, 08:52:44 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in EX / Fighting Layer: New Arika fighting game (Started by Renzo F April 01, 2017, 04:40:22 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

Yeah, 10 minutes in, they say "are they gonna show Volcano and Pullum ? I don't think we have any big reveal lined up. They just put up the new video, we're just playing on the regular PS4 version."
    

Re: DC Television Universe Discussion Thread

 July 19, 2018, 08:39:37 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in DC Television Universe Discussion Thread (Started by Uche_of_MFG May 14, 2015, 11:21:37 pm
 Board: Entertainment

>fuck Batman
>blood everywhere
So mature.
Raven goes from comic book goth to plain dumb "leaky ink" goth.
    

Re: Dragon Ball FighterZ (Xbone)(PS4)(PC)

 July 18, 2018, 07:18:53 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Dragon Ball FighterZ (Xbone)(PS4)(PC) (Started by Moon Girard June 09, 2017, 04:33:13 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

I like that Goku's Kaiohken gets stronger (x3, x20) when teammates get taken down.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 18, 2018, 07:17:00 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

So he was in Freeza's forces too and he's the one who was hiding Broly, then. But Paragus wanting revenge on Vegeta doesn't really look like it'll fit anymore at this point - he's been around Freeza's forces all this time even when Vegeta was still there ?
Manga update - wow, Gohan's standing up to Kefla ?? (yes, already) Nice Broly montage of Kale, too.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 17, 2018, 02:25:52 am View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Also, I can't help but notice a resemblance at how the new Frieza armor looks a bit like one of Multiverse's copies of Broly, minus the shoulder pads.
The slightly more square-ish shape and the type of colors (secondary "evil" colors instead of primary "good" colors) are close to the stuff that Freeza's army was wearing during the Resurrection movie
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Tagoma (edit - in fact it's nearly identical to that one http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Shisami )
Toriyama's base form sketch was shown during Jump Victory Carnival, it's real nice
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2018/jul/16/heres-look-reboot-broly-upcoming-dragon-ball-super-movie/
It's a bit different, with an emphasize on the worn down, "lived in the wild for a few years" aspect, and he already lost the armor (except another image from Toei shows him green with the armor intact, so I dunno, maybe the worn down one is from the end of the movie, I'm feeling a bit lost at this point). Also blue pants instead of purple, so I'll just blame Toei as usual.
    

Re: Fire Emblem Heroes [iOS/Android]

 July 15, 2018, 01:22:55 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Fire Emblem Heroes [iOS/Android] (Started by Moon Girard January 18, 2017, 11:28:47 pm
 Board: Gaming

Hm, 5*+7 Masked Marth, Flashing Blade and Speed Ploy seals for this Tempest... Why not.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 15, 2018, 12:45:50 am View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

I dunno, Broly's hate for Goku is pretty much his entire character and Toriyama did say he wanted to please Broly fans. Either that was only about his absolute juggernaut style, or it included literally the one and only personality trait he has. Plus in that teaser, he does seem pretty miffed when staring at Goku for all two seconds we see of him :P
I think the hatred for Goku can stay, but it just needs an actual legit reason (well, as far as berserk logic goes, at least, it doesn't have to be a super deep reason), and Toriyama wants to do the character justice, so maybe that's the big point he's updating about him.

... If Broly was a soldier just like Nappa and Vegeta judging by the remains of his Saiyan gear, maybe he wasn't too far from them (without being part of their group like Raditz) and he's pissed that Goku beat Vegeta and Broly was left completely abandoned, especially after the Freeza force was wiped ? Vegeta doesn't need to know about Broly (well, he says early on that they're the last Saiyans but then again, Table shows up a decade later) but maybe, I dunno, Broly had hopes that the Saiyans could rise again and Goku beating Vegeta killed that dream. That would mean Broly wants to defend Vegeta's honor so who knows, but abandonment issues would at least be a step up to explain his insanity (plus it would even resonate with Kale who worships Caulifla). (also abandonment issues probably means no Paragus but who cares about him)
... Just rolling the ball off the fact that he's wearing worn-out Saiyan gears and a fur pelt, don't take it seriously.
By the way, considering Toriyama gave us Dragon Ball Minus where it turns out Goku was like 3 when he was sent to Earth, and not a newborn baby, Broly hearing Goku's cries as a newborn baby and then surviving the exploding planet is out of the window, so there's that.

... Anyway I still don't get why that fur pelt is green, it's weird. Red would be slightly more natural and a more obvious throwback to his original design. I wouldn't expect it to mean anything, but that's just ugly, it tickles me the wrong way.

(last edit : I was looking through the first responses when the movie teaser came out and lol @ the "huh, feels like Broly" comments - well except LJK who was glad to see a new Saiyan villain that's not Broly)


Edit again -
https://mobile.twitter.com/V_Jump/status/1018649883698290688
Oho ? Design for base and ssj form, also figurines. So he does have the full Saiyan armor. I like it.
It's much more recent than Nappa's though, so it looks more like he was part of Freeza's force during the resurrection movie... ?
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 14, 2018, 04:27:46 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Yeah, green fur somehow (it's ugly), and black forearm+shin guards like the old Saiyan designs (Nappa, Bardock). Also a skin tight pair of pants like Kefla, I'm really not a fan.

edit - oh, d'uh. It just hit me, between the arm guards, the boots, and the skin tight pants, this is telling us that this Broly was living as a regular Saiyan soldier for a time with the full classic Saiyan gear, just like Vegeta and Nappa and the likes, before breaking away and going all wild man living in the forest or something, probably, judging by the fur skirt and the absence of armor. So his backstory is probably completely revamped then, no exile as a baby, no Paragus scheming for revenge against Vegeta.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 14, 2018, 01:04:56 am View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Broly is green, that's all.
    

Re: EX / Fighting Layer: New Arika fighting game

 July 13, 2018, 05:18:57 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in EX / Fighting Layer: New Arika fighting game (Started by Renzo F April 01, 2017, 04:40:22 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

Yeah, that's (one of) the reason sfex felt weird back then, floaty physics. I was a bit disappointed when the gameplay trailers came out that they still copy-pasted that. Oh well, it didn't stop me from loving the character's, back then and now (I'm super pumped about Rossi and Pullum, my two favs).
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 13, 2018, 02:32:39 am View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Checking out the manga, when they start discussing who's strong, Shin just says there's 28 planets with people (humans, civilization, whatever, although I doubt they make the distinction) on it, but he never checked them for power levels, and Whys just says to pick from the people they already know. So they don't actually bother looking around. We still don't actually know if there are stronger people in U7 :P
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 12, 2018, 08:21:44 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

I'm hoping he sticks around. I mean, the movies kept killing him then trying to find ways to bring him back and the games keep throwing him out there with no justification, might as well give everyone a reason to keep bringing him back, we know people love him. When Resurrection F killed Freeza I thought it was stupid to bring him back with a new power up only to kill him off, but then Super picked him out of Hell for a bargain and then revived him. So in hindsight, it makes sense that they had to kill him when he attacked Earth, he wasn't going to accept his loss and walk away, if they were going to fully revive him anyway after doing the usual "uneasy alliance" trope. At least Freeza is still a villain, unlike how quickly Tien, Piccolo, Vegeta, the androids jumped ship.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 12, 2018, 03:05:13 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Did they even mention that anyone looked in places that weren't Earth ? I don't remember that they bothered, since Goku just knew enough people and they figured anyone strong would have been in Freeza's army and Earth wiped out those guys (Beerus did blame team Earth for that IIRC).
So far I figure that Broly is U7's LSSJ and Kale is U6's.
    

Re: Everything Anime and Manga Thread

 July 11, 2018, 06:04:12 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Everything Anime and Manga Thread (Started by ( ゚ o゚) It's Urza! August 27, 2007, 02:30:58 am
 Board: Entertainment

Parasyte
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 10, 2018, 05:54:24 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Hmmmm... Actually, it wouldn't be far fetched, the manga is still struggling to catch up even though it's going as fast as it can, and I don't see Toyotaro missing the chance to do the Broly movie in the manga, so the anime could easily waste time redoing it. Of course the anime could just wait a few more months before resuming but I don't know if they would.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 July 10, 2018, 02:48:30 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Yes, that makes him no more canon than the movie.
And the movie synopsis mentions that Goku and Vegeta will meet this new Broly for the first time, so the old movie are definitely non canon.