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Re: gaming news that don't deserve their own thread

 October 16, 2018, 11:47:07 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in gaming news that don't deserve their own thread (Started by Titiln October 30, 2011, 05:13:58 pm
 Board: Gaming

http://www.siliconera.com/2018/10/13/capcom-discusses-how-they-plan-on-using-their-ips-in-the-latest-annual-report/
That's a rather interesting approach, and I'm surprised they're so open about it.
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Kenzo Tsujimoto, CEO: “As it takes about three years to develop a game, we used to have issues with a progressive decline in recognition during development.
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Although games receive only about two weeks of media exposure before and after their release...
no shit
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... factors that led to the success of this Hollywood movie include (1) the theatrical release, (2) Blu-Ray and DVD sales, (3) cable television broadcasts and (4) broadcasts at hotels and in airplanes. It has been rebroadcast numerous times over years and decades, which has led to maintaining and even increasing the recognition of this title.

A condition to taking this marketing approach is that the games are of world-class quality
So basically they figured out what was the point of flooding various markets with all kinds of derivative products like plushies and figurines and cartoons and pencils and notebooks with the face of your character back in the '90s. But could that balance out the astronomical cost of today's AAA games ? They tried to just extend a game's life cycle with DLCs spread over several years but I guess why not stack that with the tried-and-true marketing tactics.
I just hope that means good things for that Megaman TV show and that movie. But OTOH, Marvel is supposed to be doing that work for MvC, so people still need to actually like the game what you show about the game.
(I'm being a bit cynical here but I really appreciate that they're making this sort of things public and I'm happy that we can see they actually think about what they're doing, this is what proper communication looks like)
(and I'm suddenly super sad to see Breath of Fire sitting in the same sales range as Final Fight, Commando and 1942 - and then I look at Okami and I'm sad for its fanbase)
    

Re: Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread

 October 16, 2018, 10:54:48 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread (Started by Erroratu November 01, 2016, 08:51:19 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

I mean... Disney could throw Alien characters if they wanted to (well, not right now, maybe in 5 years), but then it would be Disney vs Capcom, not Marvel vs Capcom, and it would probably be Disney stepping on a whole bunch of Marvel toes not that a lot of Marvel artists like to draw feet anyway. But on the other hand, since Capcom created Linn, it would suddenly be easier to add her on Capcom's side if someone really wanted her as hard as, say, Hiryu. I just don't think anyone will bother to go that far ?
    

Re: Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread

 October 16, 2018, 10:45:58 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread (Started by Erroratu November 01, 2016, 08:51:19 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

SonSon, I really don't get it, SonSon from MvC2 is the granddaughter of the original SonSon, like what the hell, why not include the original? But Ruby Heart and Amingo, from what I recall were scrapped concepts for characters, I think Ruby Heart and Amingo were rejected Darkstalkers concepts that were made real once MvC2 came out, though I cannot find a confirmation.
For Sonson I always imagined they just wanted an excuse to make another girl. And yes, Amingo was a Darkstalkers reject and Ruby Heart was.... a throwback to some older pirate game ? Well, just like Sonson, I think she was invented for MvC2 but with a background firmly in that older game. So for both girls, there was still the strong connection with the older franchise that was thrown in the crossover. Rewriting Lynn with a background that doesn't step on Alien property would be self-defeating.
edit - http://capcom.wikia.com/wiki/Ruby_Heart#Trivia you're right, Ruby's also a Darkstalkers reject.
    

Re: Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread

 October 16, 2018, 02:24:04 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread (Started by Erroratu November 01, 2016, 08:51:19 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

That might defeat the whole point of a crossover game that includes known characters from various franchises.
    

Re: Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread

 October 14, 2018, 08:45:44 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread (Started by Erroratu November 01, 2016, 08:51:19 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

Are you trying to say that Capcom's strategy back in the '90s to put out a whole new disc cartridge every year with just a few more characters was actually a good thing and not the evil money-grubbing scheme everyone claimed it was ?? :o B-b-but DLC was invented specifically to fix that !
    

Re: Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread

 October 14, 2018, 08:19:13 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite Thread (Started by Erroratu November 01, 2016, 08:51:19 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

If the DLC stuff is to be believed, all those characters were basically ready when they decided to drop the game. So actually making a game out of it, that's money out of something that's already done and would have never been sold otherwise anyway.
    

Re: Jump Force (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece, Death Note)

 October 13, 2018, 03:51:48 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Jump Force (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece, Death Note) (Started by yaret June 11, 2018, 05:19:48 am
 Board: Fighting Games

Bandai having made games before doesn't mean they can pick characters from random games to add to a Jump game. You won't see a character from Ippo any more than you''ll see a Soul Calibur or Tekken character.
    

Re: Jump Force (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece, Death Note)

 October 13, 2018, 03:31:36 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Jump Force (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece, Death Note) (Started by yaret June 11, 2018, 05:19:48 am
 Board: Fighting Games

That's irrelevant. This is a Jump game. Ippo is not Jump.
    

Re: Jump Force (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece, Death Note)

 October 12, 2018, 03:30:14 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Jump Force (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece, Death Note) (Started by yaret June 11, 2018, 05:19:48 am
 Board: Fighting Games

Did the previous Jump games have any actual DLC ? I only remember Victory VS getting some random arcade mode and stuff on the + version on PS4.

Bandai is the one doing the DLC for TV series games. (I mean, not the manga games that Jump specifically says to make for some random celebration)
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 October 05, 2018, 01:14:07 am View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Yeah, but Bardock knows Freeza has bad intentions. At this point I'm fully expecting the movie to still have him pull a rebellion stint and get killed by that attack the same way as the movie.
They recently said the first 20~30 minutes of the movie would be emotional so I still expect Bardock to die. I wouldn't mind if they brought him back afterward considering the card games and everything after that decided that Bardock was too cool to stay dead anyway, so it can't be worse than it already is, but if they dare to do that, I hope they also keep Broly alive. I know it would be weird but it just really upsets me to think they might bring him back for a movie, admitting that he's cool and everyone loves him and they can't do any new game without him, only to kill him off AGAIN. I mean, Bardock is in a similar position now, but it took a long time for him to get there, and his death is kind of a prerequisite to the entire series so any cop out would just be a massive asspull like the time travel movie, and making a movie about Broly would be an acceptable excuse to rewrite his end...
(in short, reviving Bardock would still be an asspull but I don't think they're too good for that, and at least I think they will still make his character look good just like the original movie)

Oh, yeah, King Vegeta doesn't look too bad. Until now he was just "Vegeta with a goatee" for how little we ever saw of him anywhere, but they actually changed his face a bit. And so many new designs for Saiyan characters ! I like how they're just going full out on giving us the actual life of the Saiyan race before their (not) extinction.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 October 05, 2018, 12:52:10 am View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Yeah, there was that, because Toriyama admitted that he actually liked that movie and that Bardock. But it didn't say anything about the future vision and what got Bardock there, just that he stood against Freeza and died. IMO that was completely expected ever since Toriyama made Minus, which straight up told us Goku was 3. Everyone still figured that all the other details shifted around to match the movie, but considering how unexpected Minus was, it was always a very real possibility that Toriyama would one day fix all that out of nowhere just like how he suddenly came up with Minus.

The only thing that really changes from what actually appeared in the manga is Bardock's armor and bandana, and we can just chalk it up to the general redesign of everyone. But the bandana is a big part of what made Bardock so beloved ; since the part on planet Vegeta is supposed to last 20~30 minutes at the start of the movie (they said it would be emotional for that long at the start), maybe we'll still get a short version of all that with the bandana and the rebellion, only without the future vision.

edit -
oh, in that trailer, when the Saiyans are kneeling, Cold is telling them "you can just stay under Freeza's orders from now on" and Freeza is going all "nice to meet you" (not in a nice way, in his usual pretend polite tyrant way), so yeah, it looks like it's when Freeza is officially taking over.
And the written text says "3 Saiyans born at the same time" (well, not exactly at the same time, but it's saying all three of them are the same age)
Also BTW Paragus is saying "you want to exile my son Broly ? Well then I'll raise him as the strongest warrior and have my revenge !" then Bardock says Freeza is plotting some bad shit.
oh wait it has subtitles available, you can see that.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 October 05, 2018, 12:37:09 am View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

I figured it was when King Cold was the ruler of the empire and then Freeza showed off his dick power and officially took the throne, you know, something like that. Like his passing rite before being entrusted with the empire. Coola doesn't wear any sort of cloth or armor either, because he doesn't actually have any official imperial role. In the first place, obviously Freeza only wore that armor as a ceremonial stuff, to look more regal and official.

And yeah, I thought it was always admitted that Vegeta was like 5 years older than Goku, but was it all because of the Bardock movie that everyone assumed that ? But Goku being older was already known since Minus. I think he was 3 ? And I don't remember if the manga actually ever showed Grandpa Gohan taking in Goku as a baby, that was from the movie too, we just had the backstory that Goku hit his head early on, and even that was only when Raditz showed up. I don't remember any serious flashback in OG Dragon Ball (maybe in the anime only but who cares about that).

As for the armor skirt... well it still might stretch when the user grows to giant size, it just becomes more skin-tight.
    

Re: entertainment news that don't deserve their own thread

 October 03, 2018, 04:07:44 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in entertainment news that don't deserve their own thread (Started by Titiln June 18, 2011, 03:16:32 am
 Board: Entertainment

because they cant.

the only people that can do anything with the star wars video game license is EA, they have an exclusive contract for the next few years.
Who allowed Vader and Yoda to be in Soul Calibur, and could they do the same with Capcom ? (Also what happened to LucasArt ?)
NB : I'm sure that'll never happen.
    

Re: SNK HEROINES Tag Team Frenzy (Switch / PS4)

 September 27, 2018, 10:32:40 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in SNK HEROINES Tag Team Frenzy (Switch / PS4) (Started by Titiln January 11, 2018, 03:26:53 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

    

Re: gaming news that don't deserve their own thread

 September 24, 2018, 08:59:27 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in gaming news that don't deserve their own thread (Started by Titiln October 30, 2011, 05:13:58 pm
 Board: Gaming

Sekiro gameplay
https://gematsu.com/2018/09/sekiro-shadows-die-twice-playstation-underground-gameplay
I was a bit confused at some point between this and Ghost of Tsushima because it has the same realistic feel, the same colors, and the same fish-eye effect on the world wrapping over you.
Feels like a more ruthless Tenchu (which it started out as), but man, that Corrupted Monk boss fight looks hard as shit in that second phase. Unless it was just the guy trying to just die and show off the battle.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 September 24, 2018, 08:20:20 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

Yeah, the manga is going through the tournament like a wrecking ball. It was actually nice of the anime to give the spotlight to everyone, because dragging it out is what they do, but I did appreciate the tiny details the manga gave, actually saying things out loud - Vegeta's speech, Roshi's lesson, Jiren's personality is starting to show, Kale officially being the LSSJ from U6... And The Broly rampage was rather funny, although it took out most of everyone.
It just feels like there's an actual writer who's building a world, whereas the anime just has animators who fill up space and time but only follow the bullet points of the story and don't put out much relevant text. If the anime had bothered connecting the LSSJ dots with Kale (it's not like the movie wasn't already planned), the Broly movie would have been instantly understood as the next logical step, and people wouldn't have wasted as much time wondering what sense it made.

On the other hand, we lost a bunch of nice personal scenes, like Team Earthlings actually fighting (Krillin WTF !!!!), Kefla's entire thing and Toppo's GoD position (although I wasn't much of a fan of how the anime made him seem still so far beyond SSBlue, it should have been a way to actually compare Blue to an actual GoD, rather than being an excuse for flashy explosions).

edit - oh hang on... the previous manga chapter did have Toppo mention he's a GoD candidate. But then it skipped him getting the power of destruction entirely, and his defeat makes him look ultra lame now, WTF :( (that being said, Champa's erasure had a whole bunch of emotional build up in just a few pages, not bad)
Also I just remembered the anime had Vegeta try to force his body to use Ultra Instinct and just not moving and getting beat up for nothing and then getting vexed about it. That was hilarious.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 September 24, 2018, 05:42:23 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

It's giving the character time to Jiren instead of Toppo. It's showing you how much of a dick Jiren is, while having all the good guys demonstrate their teamwork in front of Jiren, probably because it'll make him snap in his comparison of "solo vs teamwork and sacrifice" attitudes.
Jiren in the anime had nothing until the last minute and Toppo wasn't really that interesting either, beside being a candidate for the next GoD.
    

Re: New Dragonball Super Series

 September 23, 2018, 10:07:36 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in New Dragonball Super Series (Started by Omega April 28, 2015, 02:37:30 pm
 Board: Entertainment

New chapter, a surprising moment of Freeza and #17 apparently getting along not too badly (that'd make a decent introduction to shifting Freeza to the usual anti-hero role), and a pretty clear opposition between Vegeta refusing to be taught stuff and just deciding to improve on his own, and Goku deciding to not get mad, which is pretty much discarding the whole basis for the Super Saiyan form but apparently is the key to reactivate Ultra Instinct.
The Jiren fight should be nearly wrapping up next month, and then the wish and the return home should end the chapter for the month after that... Which brings us right to the Broly movie. I'm, like, 90% sure Toyotaro will do the movie in the manga.
    

Re: Dragon Ball FighterZ (Xbone)(PS4)(PC)

 September 22, 2018, 07:33:19 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Dragon Ball FighterZ (Xbone)(PS4)(PC) (Started by Moon Girard June 09, 2017, 04:33:13 pm
 Board: Fighting Games

Wait, when did they confirm a season 2 ?
    

Re: Jump Force (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece, Death Note)

 September 20, 2018, 09:54:33 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Byakko  in Jump Force (Naruto, DBZ, One Piece, Death Note) (Started by yaret June 11, 2018, 05:19:48 am
 Board: Fighting Games

That and then move it to the fighting game section ? - edit - hah thanks

https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2018/sep/20/yu-yu-hakushos-yusuke-urameshi-and-villain-toguro-join-jump-force-original-characters-designed-dragon-ball-creator-akira-toriyama-also-revealed/
Looks like new moves for the old characters from Victory VS. Also that Himeji Castle stage is pretty.
Toriyama's new characters look like expies of the Xenoverse demon chick and Golden Freeza/Cell with Hit's moody attitude.

edit - oh lol I didn't even see her in that screenshot.
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