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Re: Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0

 January 14, 2009, 02:05:19 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0 (Started by O Ilusionista January 05, 2009, 05:43:47 pm
 Board: Your Releases, older Mugen

Acey, sakura is pretty alright, nothing bad about her in any glaring way.

One thing tho,remove effects from all characters, tons of them come with their own hitsparks,which is a big no-no in a fullgame.besides wasting space , it makes them look from different sources, the same for some recovery sounds and stuff.

That is definitely at the top of our list to get straight is to get the sparks all to match.
    

Re: Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0

 January 07, 2009, 10:33:20 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0 (Started by O Ilusionista January 05, 2009, 05:43:47 pm
 Board: Your Releases, older Mugen

Also, just because a character has ONE infinite, that does not make him cheap. Most people don't even abuse it over and over like that. If the CPU did like reported above, it would be one thing, but if you were actually playing with someone one on one, you would more than likely hit the ESC key if they continually knifed you over and over anyway, so that kind of dramatic typing about how any character can spam a move is just in essence a personal preference. Regardless though, that was unintended and will be fixed. Most of you guys are doing a bug-reports but aren't keeping in mind that the folks that actually use the game for fun are still enjoying it. I have given a copy of the moleboxed version to friends at work and they report bugs as they come across them but are pleased to use characters they have never seen before in a fighting game and actually get some enjoyment out of them. They aren't nit-picky when it comes to a one on one between Punisher and Hulk and are estatic and actually feel a bit of self-accomplishment when they actually beat Symbiote Onslaught. These results are why we build this game. For that kind of enjoyment.

... I dont get your point, are you trying to tell me that we shouldnt report infinites cuz some people are having fun with the game?
Doesnt that kinda defeat the point of testing it?




Acey:

His symbiote mode, while well sprited kinda feels tacked on, I dont see it as much of a bonus to him as of now while he doesnt have a good set of basics, the knive throw on his lp is good but he needs a signature style to his movement ( I dont mind repeated basics from cable, thats not even what I mean) .
Maybe something more like Hol horse and less like uppercut with guns.

No, no. I am not saying that at all.. but people get all weird and say a character has an infinite and use that as a basis to cement their negative opinion about a certain character. Report all finds.. regardless what we already know or don't know. The Symbiote mode is a bonus to see if we could make it mesh/work. It can be easily removed/disabled if it seems to cripple Punisher. The Symbiote mode is still unfinished as there are still a couple of attacks to add in and such.
    

Re: Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0

 January 07, 2009, 10:15:39 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0 (Started by O Ilusionista January 05, 2009, 05:43:47 pm
 Board: Your Releases, older Mugen

"See what i mean about the sound effrects, and The punisher is really dissapointing, i'm sorry but he is, i tried to have fun with him but he isnt fun to plsay with"

I don't recall saying this.. wtf..

Fixed. Happens sometimes when you type out a lot of stuff.
    

Re: Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0

 January 07, 2009, 09:52:26 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0 (Started by O Ilusionista January 05, 2009, 05:43:47 pm
 Board: Your Releases, older Mugen

Iceman's stance is still ugly and choppy.
Iceman still has the same ugly portrait (Cutman aswell) -v

The problems ive reported with Iceman, Megaman, and Cutman still remain.

Iceman's "still ugly and choppy" stance is how I like it. It isn't choppy, just not up to your personal standards. The Super EoH versions of Cutman and Iceman are the same one's from the previous beta. I addressed the bugs in the most recent individual releases, but failed to catch these two prior to the Super EoH beta release as I was concentrating on finishing 3 other characters for our deadline.

Galatus is really weak, he should have super armour(Like all MvC Bosses).

This version of Galactus is a placeholder for the one I am completing. IMT decided to go with mine vice the current one, so reserve your judgement for my version based off of N64Mario's Apocalypse.


======================================================================================
Below are a list of comments that is useless to us because they are what we call "personal/individual preferences" and you know that in this community, you cannot please everyone when it comes to this. If you think we ignore your "feedback" quoted below, you now know why:

-Banshee's palette still sucks.
-Athur's powermode is waaaaay too strong.
-Athur's supermoves are un-original.. most of them are copies of other MvC characters.
-Electman, Dr.Wily aren't select-able. -_-
Yet, Gill and Galatus are..
-Lilith but no Morrigan.. ?'
-Ooro is broken(I think he may be by Kong)
-The music on some stages are really bad.
-Blackcat is the best coded character in the game, she actually feels like shes from an MvC game.
**I give this game a solid :
-539532042432423553 out of 10

** :shame:

======================================================================================
The stuff below is actually useful to us in trying to correct/fix/semi-please most people.

-Some characters don't have taunts. (Arthur)

-WTF happen to the lifebars, and why are those hitsparks in the corner.. ?
-Why is Oro's launcher Back+MP ?... ::)
-Most of the stage's music are just infinite loops..
-Nearly every character has a move very similar to another.. (this is borderline part comment, part useful.. could be more useful with more info)
-It feels more like a pack of "MvC" characters. (ditto. See comment above)

Oh and what's WRONG with Punisher? A lot of things are wrong with him. Look at all of the comments throughout this thread. It's not just me that has a problem with how he plays. He shouldn't have been included if he had no sound. It really takes away from the experience. Plus he can spam his QCF+LP move over and over again. A lot of people were disappointed by how he's been made

I did.. this is all I found besides what you wrote...

R@ce45 said:
See what i mean about the sound effrects, and The punisher is really dissapointing, i'm sorry but he is, i tried to have fun with him but he isnt fun to plsay with

R@ce45 said:
and please oh please, some of the characters dont even have voices, or much moive overs if any, i mean take a m=look at DC vs Marvel mostlly all of their characters have somne kind of voice overs.... and this is needed Especially in Haggar, and in the punisher

And the punisher. all i have to say is, Woooooooooooooooooooooow... i just cannot believe this, like is he just a beta or what?,..... cus he defenitely needs some better sound effects and hell he needs a voice, oh man please, giv the guy a voice and also his hyper portrait doesnt even look like a mvc2 style potrait it's more of a x-men versus street fighter portrait.....

furrynick said:
Also the CPU punisher has a nasty bugg where he continue doing the same move over and over.

R@ce mentioned three separate times about the sound issue. Three separate comments saying the same thing. The CPU mechanics are improved since this insert into the mix.

He has no custom sounds in the beta release because it's just that, a beta release for feedback on gameplay mechanics amongst other things. We should have included a list or readme of things yet to be inserted into each character so that you at least had a heads up of what not to report/expect, but if a character has no sound, you can rest assured one of 2 things happened or is happening, 1. either we already know and are looking for some sounds to complete them, especially when we release them individually, and 2. an older version of the character was inserted accidentally (we have a lot of them in there, so we may miss one of two..). In any case, report the find and we are on top of it. We have a thread somewhere with a list of all reported, useful bug finds and will try to correct/fix them all, but in any case, will take time. We at least put a beta out there for testing rather than holding on to EoH for years and years. I am sure you can find other sites/forums out there with a long wait time if that's what suits your fancy.

Also, just because a character has ONE infinite, that does not make him cheap. Most people don't even abuse it over and over like that. If the CPU did like reported above, it would be one thing, but if you were actually playing with someone one on one, you would more than likely hit the ESC key if they continually knifed you over and over anyway, so that kind of dramatic typing about how any character can spam a move is just in essence a personal preference. Regardless though, that was unintended and will be fixed. Most of you guys are doing a bug-reports but aren't keeping in mind that the folks that actually use the game for fun are still enjoying it. I have given a copy of the moleboxed version to friends at work and they report bugs as they come across them but are pleased to use characters they have never seen before in a fighting game and actually get some enjoyment out of them. They aren't nit-picky when it comes to a one on one between Punisher and Hulk and are estatic and actually feel a bit of self-accomplishment when they actually beat Symbiote Onslaught. These results are why we build this game. For that kind of enjoyment.
    

Re: Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0

 January 07, 2009, 10:12:33 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Super Marvel vs Capcom Eternity of Heroes beta v4.0 (Started by O Ilusionista January 05, 2009, 05:43:47 pm
 Board: Your Releases, older Mugen

Well, if we all stopped working on our hobby and just flat out stopped releasing stuff because you can't get over how inaccurate our work is compared to those Capcom programmers and artists then we would be like you now wouldn't we Vader? ;P

You are old news. Get out of the spotlight and let it go.

Anyway, I am interested in hearing what is wrong with Punisher. Punisher was not completed and what was included with the beta was an older version that lacked good AI. Otherwise, I think Punisher is not only fun to use but easy to use as well. :S
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 29, 2008, 05:20:15 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

You call expressing one's own opinion misbehaving? Your post makes it seem like I was hacking the IMT forum and causing mayhem when all I did was come to another forum to express my opinion on a creator's work. You've said you don't care about what we say about Kong's characters so why the fuck do you keep coming here? And the closest I insulted IMT as a whole was by calling them worshippers of Kong's work, and I only outrightly called that one guy retard whom I apologized to. And like I said I don't give a shit. It's actually better now so that I don't have to see people praising Kong's shitty work. Oh and if anyone seriously wants to make that stage I'll help since I'm learning to code. But scientifically Gorilla's actually have smaller penis width and lengths than humans do. I learned that in Biology 102.

Here's some Psych 101 for ya... when someone is backed in a corner, that's when the last minute, last second, last dash in an attempt to recover from what looks like being trumped by someone else's words, most people will start dishing out expletives like you just did.  ;D
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 28, 2008, 11:17:21 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

Well thanks for banning me Excursion. You've just shown everyone how sly and malicious you are, not like anyone didn't already know. But, I'm not upset. I'm actually glad that I'm not in a forum that oppresses others because of their views.

I don't really see why anyone would give a crap about the reasoning behind your banishment from IMT. When I was younger, my parents had to lay the smackdown on my ass when I misbehaved at a store or something, but that did not make me think they were bad people. They did what they did to keep me in check. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. An Admin of any forum goes through the same form of reasoning and anyone who has ever Administered a large forum understands that to some people you are a good guy and to others you are bad, so talking about how "sly" and "malicious" I am to try to make me out to be the bad guy is a small pot-shot at me from someone on the outside trying to look under a closed & locked door. You got yourself banned, not anyone here, not me.

Now I'm wondering myself if someone gave Kong the template he uses... if he truly doesn't know where certain bits of code are in the template he uses.

Well, wonder no more. He codes his own stuff.
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 25, 2008, 11:21:03 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 25, 2008, 03:53:34 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

Actually Kong is just showing he has the interest to change a damn thing in the most recent iteration of Kong's release thread over at Infinity: this was actually worth something. Personally it shows that all of this ruckus was actually worth something.

I doubt it as no one will ever be satisfied with what Kong puts out from here on out.


@Excursion


thats a lot of writing to say the same thing thats been said every page behind this one.

I just wanted say that your father kong is still making characters while you try and stick up for your him

>:(

Yeah, like I would upset over something as small as that. Bud, I'm going to college working on a History and Biology degree and planning to become a cardiologist, so I don't think I would give a rat's shit about being restricted from certain parts of an internet forum. The only reason I ever came to IMT forums was to look at the news section. Boohoo I guess I'll have to go to MI forums to check out the new MUGEN releases now. The reason this crap was started on another forum was because if Kong was criticized at IMT forums, it would be like me being slaughtered by dogs.  Plus threads not just by me have been started at places like MI, MFG, etc. In fact this is only the 1st or 2nd thread I've started about Kong. You wanna demote/restrict people? Fine. But don't expect us to give a fuck especially when there are other MUGEN forums out there. I discuss Kong's work, and don't even insult IMT as a whole (except that one person who I called a retard and apologized to), and we get punished. Mind you it's on a forum which you have no jurisdiction over. Yeah... that's really mature.

I think everyone could care less what everyone else does in real life. We all have lives and posting what you do vice what I do is irrelevant here. Good luck with your degree pursuit at Rutgers and enjoy MI's News Section.

    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 24, 2008, 10:11:41 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

Some people are trying to improve the Infinity experience by getting certain members of it to change what they usually do, or for this case try to give real reasons to not get select works from a certain. One of these attempts is to try and point out the flaws of the people who are staff at IMT, not at the people themselves but at their methods and reasons of running their forum. Recently, the IMT Staff have just shown a good example of the need to improve their forum by once again wiping Kong's thread clean. Does a single other Mugen community bother to constantly clean-up a single thread dozens of times? P.o.t.S. was just attacked by Sol BadGuy Z for a variety of stupid reasons; the Guild staff laughed at it instead. The thread for Kong's creations over here on Guild, while containing many messages "bashing" his creations, still has many valid points underneath, and at the end shows a valid argument against getting his creations.

       A variety of insults are regularly thrown back and forth between each forum. Any attempts at preventing people from doing this will only get more questions in turn. The Infinity forums have shown that the majority of members are... not exactly as mature or willing to listen and learn as you are expecting from other communities about what comes from Infinity, and this whole thing is just an attempt to show the quality of Kong's creations, something which is undeniably low. Kong himself has actually recently expressed interest in fixing his recent Blackheart, as fleeting as it may be.

Improving the Infinity experience in a thread about Kong's works? There are sections of forums for public suggestions and a PM system for that.

As for the thread cleaning, KONG cleans his own threads out. He splits the conversations below his 1st post. Yes, he can do that. None of the other mods do that unless crap gets out of control. If you have issues with him cleaning a topic he started, then take it up with him, but choose your tactical ways carefully. If you decide to attack his method, then you more than likely will be ignored by him. He does not wander outside the boundaries of IMT in the MUGEN world. He has plain out told me that, so all your feedback here is not seen by him, which makes all of your ranting about how he does not fix his stuff pointless.

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Jabs at Infinity are to be expected; you can get them to shut up by improving your own forums.

Jabbing at IMT isn't going to make me or any of my cohorts improve the forum. It's not going to make Kong go and fix that one collision box that is off by 50 pixels and it definitely isn't going to make Kong fix a damn thing. If anything, it will make us stringent on rules such as bashing someone else and make us monitor outside the forum for users that tend to completely pull a 2-face on us. Loyalty is a building block of forums and without loyalty, you wouldn't have your different ranks and you sure as hell wouldn't have a goal to reach when trying to actually make a difference in a forum. (i.e. Mod job, contributor rank, etc.) I have never seen a "jab" at the population of one place FIX things at that same place. It just brings chaos and that's what this thread is doing not only in Kong specific threads here, but at Kong's release thread at IMT. This kind of BS tends to spill over from forum to forum and that in turn get's people butt hurt when they get smacked with a demotion. Say what you want about it only being a tag or irrelevant, but no one here likes to be demoted at any forum they frequent. Ask Vader who was restricted from seeing certain sections. They look at it as a slap on the face. If you are that kind of person, then don't go around promoting this kind of negative attitude when it comes to IMT as a whole. Using a thread like this to try to "jab" at IMT as a whole and using a justification of bashing Kong's work just to do it only brings forum conflicts and drama none of us care to read. We run IMT how we, as a forum, like to run it, not how long-time standing MFG, MI, Scruffy etc. forum members want it to be ran. Suggestions for changes to the forum are best heard in an organized thread about how things could be simplified/fixed/better if things went another direction, not by slinging insults about how this Admin is this or that GM is a punk. An opinion is one thing. An opinion can be either accepted or rejected, but insults are always taken badly (right Miss Fairy?). If word gets back to any one of us that a member of IMT decided to start/talk crap here or elsewhere at other forums then you essentially spit on us and you will feel it in your gut when you log in to IMT and see a change. That's not a threat. That's a promise.
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 24, 2008, 02:46:10 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

I haven't been there lately but doesn't INFINITY have something like a feedback section as well?

Stop bitching about them, talk to them. It's not like Excursion is unapproachable and G Lux for example doesn't seem that bad either.

I can't imagine that Excursion would knowingly stand for things like stripping Cybaster of his status simply because of Cybaster's taste.

I've never been unapproachable. I did not come online the other day looking to take people's "tag titles" away at IMT. This crap went from Kong's releases being announced, to Kong's releases being announced to see people criticize the hell out of it, to Kong's releases being announced to BASH his work (at this point, I stepped in with a plea to not provoke the masses here by ANNOUNCING his releases anymore as you can see the drama it would eventually start), to Kong's releases being announced to BASH his work for kicks/to see who is cool, to Kong's releases being announced and then IMT getting jabs in the process. That's when I stepped in again and the thread being split from the original topic.

I have watched the constant bickering, the constant BS going on here and kept tabs on who has been saying what. Lord Vader has had a couple problems with his typing tactics at IMT, so this is not his 1st run with any of the staff. With Cybaster, I am willing to talk to via PM and sort this out. LaQuak is all sorted and done and has regained his Contributor status at Infinity.

If you like me or dislike me it does not matter. If you think our forum is unfair, then there are other forums that may suit your need. If you plan on insulting IMT as a whole, be prepared to counter the backlash from people who actually enjoy the Infinity experience.
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 23, 2008, 03:55:11 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

Check your PM Excursion. Id like to be honest, inteligent and professional about whats right or wrong right about now. I hope to get a reply from you soon.

Check yours.
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 23, 2008, 01:37:12 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

You make good points. Sadly when filtered through the internet they don't work. Ranting about someone who doesn't listen isn't really a bannable offence. What is happening in this thread doesn't break the rules unless insults start flying between members. The rants would spill over somewhere else if we stamped on it. Might be less visible, but it'd wind up visible again eventually.

If you are talking about Vader, he is not banned. This is not Vader's 1st tango with IMT's staff. It's funny how people think they know something about a situation when they don't. (IF you are referring to Vader here.) We don't ban people for sh*ts and giggles or because they talk trash over here... or else Dshiznet and others would be sitting in this thread complaining.

my beef with imt is still the fact that people i know got banned for the silliest reasons hence lack of freedom of speech other wise i don't have a beef with everyone there . 
edit:topic needs to be reminded the guild vs imt.

The only one's turning this topic into a are the people jumping in here with comments about "my beef with IMT is..." None of this is about that. It's about beating a horse that was dead a long time ago and people with comments like yours about how you dislike IMT in a thread where other people take your comments and turn them into fact. If you do not like IMT, you are free to stay here or elsewhere. None of us want to force you to join us over there if you don't want to.

News guys posts his releases here and Admins lets threads like this stay for these types of reasons unfortunately but thats that.

I am sorry, I am going to go offtopic here but since I saw that a GM replied here I will ask to why were my release threads and my WIP thread over at IMT where removed by Luffy? I was told he didn't like me. Thats not such a valid excuse aint it? Just hoping maybe somebody from IMT can man enough to answer me. Just so I know why thats all so I hope thats not a problem.

I think that your issue with Luffy would be best settled with Luffy. We all got word that you and him settled your issue via PM and that he told you it was accidental. What you were told is irrelevant. PM him. Communication is what ends wars and conflicts and I am sure that would be the outcome here also. Coming out and saying "maybe somebody from IMT can man enough to answer me." is a demanding statement which pertains to NONE OF US except to Luffy himself.
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 23, 2008, 12:06:31 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

::) Yes me infinity member luvs Kongs works. Look at post history there, me luv kong with my +1 post about his characters.

Statistic wise, at the very least, the only people defending Kong are primarily Infinity Mugen Team.  So far, I haven't seen anyone from another forum do said defending so it's safe to say only people from Infinity Like Kong's stuff.  I can't say 100% of all of Infinity likes Kong's stuff, but as of so far, only Infinity people like Kongs stuff.

And what makes you think his stuff is in my roster? I am an admin at IMT, but that does not mean I download everything the team makes. If Kong was primarily releasing his work here, his fanboys would be here. theendgamelv3 totally hit the nail on the head with his post. It is annoying as hell to see this kind of childish (even though half of these people here bashing him are probably just hitting puberty or under 21) to continue to bash and bash the same person over and over. It prompted Agent Six or whoever to come to Infinity and DEFEND Miss Fairy from our users BASHING Fairy over there! It's all because of the constant rants here and elsewhere. MFG and MI are a couple of the biggest, major MUGEN forums out there, so with our users naturally members here and there, you will see people come and say "enough with the bashing, we get it, you don't like his work, WHO CARES?! Move one!" Because one insult about Kong's work leads to speculation or someone saying something stupid about Infinity and next thing you know, Joe Blow who only read the most recent page of insults thinks what was said about Infinity is true and is now spewing at the keyboard about Infinity this and Infinity that which in turn prompts angry people from IMT coming here with guns drawn. It has happened already.

The point to all this is, Kong already has had insult after insult thrown at him about his work. EVERYONE who has been involved in MUGEN for the past 6 months knows this, at least any "creator/contributor" that matters anyway. When he releases his next character, roll your eyes and move on to the next thread. Don't try it. Don't try it to leave feedback. If someone asks you to download it to try it, to quote Nancy Reagan during the U.S.'s 1980's war on drugs campaign, "Just say no."
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 19, 2008, 09:12:56 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

I quoted and asked Cyanide/Cybaster, not MFG and all it's members.
That doesn't make much of a difference at all, and it's not like you haven't addressed everyone before in your earlier posts. You've stated plenty of times that Kong doesn't care at all what people have to say, so I reiterate, why is it you feel you need to come here and defend him?

I clearly stated I could care less about what you or anyone else thinks of Kong's works. Really. Do you translate that into defense? Reread my previous posts to answer your own question.

You could care less but you don't seem to, you continue on with this Charade of you not Caring what people think of Kongs work, why?....your defending someone who you feel like defending, don't lie about. I would defend somebody, if i felt i needed to, and so far thats only two people, but their creations don't come twice every two weeks. So cut the act and get right down to the point, and stop falsely alluding to the fact that you could care less for Kongs work. truth is and you know that you do. My suggestion  and idea stop posting in this thread if you don't care at all.... your defending yourself awfully persistently, on comments constrained to the area of you and Kongs work.

also you/or whoever continously,  bring fourth the matter that Kongs gives not one S$%$ of what goes on in this thread, so what in the world gives you and anyone else the mindset that he cares what you say?...i'm curious did you talk to him personally about this issue?...and please don't asnwser yes to this question as that would contradict the whole "i could care less about Kongs work".

In the End, it all comes down to this in my Book, please don't lie about your motives, you have all the respect in the world; if you are truthful for what you say and/or do, comments that go against this should not alert you and cause you to repeat the same thing in a redundant manner.  you should know for yourself what is true and good for yourself and if others want to say things to try and disable your ability to keep to yourself.... then your no good person at all and you need pratice at being human.


please don't bother to reply back as i want reply to yor response and you'd be wasting your dexterity in a pointless matter just like i just did., i'll just skip over and read the next, insignifacant post after yours...which would probably be me, saying something totally irrelevant to the situation.

Cheers,RajaBoy

I don't know what you seem to want to do with that huge post of yours. For someone who found out the cure for cancer is popcorn, you sure have a lot of other stuff to say. If you think I am playing a charade, *shrugs*. Guess I can't fool you huh?
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 19, 2008, 08:30:47 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

I quoted and asked Cyanide/Cybaster, not MFG and all it's members.
That doesn't make much of a difference at all, and it's not like you haven't addressed everyone before in your earlier posts. You've stated plenty of times that Kong doesn't care at all what people have to say, so I reiterate, why is it you feel you need to come here and defend him?

I clearly stated I could care less about what you or anyone else thinks of Kong's works. Really. Do you translate that into defense? Reread my previous posts to answer your own question.
    

Re: Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 19, 2008, 07:36:06 pm View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

Since you stayed on topic by focusing squarely on Kong's work, I wouldn't normally reply, but, I have to say.. I don't see why you continue to care. If you think Kong is ignoring your feedback, why do you give two-bytes? Have you PM'd the guy? I mean, make me understand... why is it you and everyone else who bitches and moans about Kong not listening to anyone's feedback CONTINUE to bitch and moan about it. If it's to turn every person against him and to petition for him to stop releasing anything else, then you need to realize what the rest of the MUGEN world including IMT has realized when it comes to Kong... he does not CARE about your negative criticisms. There are worse works out there like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9QPqrTZr2g that you guys could be focusing all your negative energy on.
First off, if Kong doesn't care, why is it YOU feel the need to come here and say anything? Second, anything short of "NICE CAR +1" is negative criticism with you guys. How is it that other creators can take a wall of feedback, yet IMT either disregards it or takes it as an attack?

its cause, these people bitch on and on and decide to insult IMT for our oppinions to like kongs characters, its so plain immature that this should immediately stop. NOW.
Excursion is asking us why do we feel the need to continue "bashing" Kong when Kong himself doesn't give a shit. By coming here to defend Kong though, his argument is invalid.

I quoted and asked Cyanide/Cybaster, not MFG and all it's members.

Vader, check your PM at Infinity.
    

Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 19, 2008, 08:09:38 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

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BTW LaQuak, you shouldn't look at me too hard through your glass monitor. I would think you were a "pato" or something (no pun intended.)

You called LaQuak Gay, we all know what you mean, and the other meaning of
Pato.....shame on you going to lowly offenses like this.

SHIVA IS NOT PLEASED!!!!!!!!!! >:D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pato

Thanks for instigating.
    

Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 19, 2008, 07:58:00 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

*Looks in Excursions eyes and smiles*

Child, I do not need a "Contributor" rank at IMT. I don't even know why I was given a membergroup at IMT. But thanks for taking it away from me because right now I am upseties in my panties because of it :-*

Did you know my release threads where completely removed by Luffy whos a GM over there for him simply not liking me *pulls a stupid face and shrugs* I can also provide you some posts of him over at MI and Club-Syn. Cray told me all of in PM's and Cray was man enough to approach me about it in such a professional matter.

Now, the unprofessional part on behalf of Luffy and since hes a GM there, thus staff, therefore I will include IMT as a whole save Three people. For what ever reasons Luffy doesn't like its no big deal. I personaly removed all of my threads of IMT as my only intention was to introduce my Mugen characters at popular forums, no harm in that right Excursion?. After that that happen is when Cray told me all of this and the next day I had a "Contributor" rank at IMT. Belive me when I say that I was *shrugged and surprized* at that gesture.

*Continues looking at Excursion*

I will say that even though you guys come over here and are defending Kong and thats alright I guess, Internet friendships and such...yet you state no valid points, no research, no proof about his work. *shrugs* You're not the 1st puppy one to come here and defend Kong.

Come up with a valid defense, research, proof, points....then come back and reply.

*nods @ Excursion and walks away*

You get an MI +1 for going way off topic. Since you went that way, let me follow you...

Your point, I think, is that you had beef with a GM at IMT. Great. Who hasn't? I have had beef with MI's GM, Agent Six before. You don't see me posting my thoughts at an MI-bound release thread about how they are just a really colorful forum with a membergroup rank/title. Before you assume that all of us over there are children, you should maybe do some more research about IMT as a whole. I am not here to defend Kong. I could personally give 2 butt's about what you think of him, his work, his computer, his keybard or whatever else you fellas love to cry about. What I am here posting about is the idiots that blow at the mouth and use this thread as an opportunity to criticize IMT as a whole BECAUSE of Kong's work.

BTW LaQuak, you shouldn't look at me too hard through your glass monitor. I would think you were a "pato" or something (no pun intended.)
    

Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen

 July 19, 2008, 05:44:55 am View in topic context
 Posted by Excursion  in Coliseum - Kong vs Mugen (Started by Lord Vader July 18, 2008, 07:22:46 pm
 Board: M.U.G.E.N Discussion

the admins at infinity get angry and tell me to fix them myself if I want them fixed so badly

Riiiight. Like we all know you know MUGEN coding. You feel your feedback to Kong is a waste? Fine. Whatever. But to include the rest of the forum in your little rant shows you have more of a problem with Infinity than just Kong's characters.

And when I do keep posting the bugs over and over again because he's not listening, the admins at infinity get angry and tell me to fix them myself if I want them fixed so badly.

That s just pure unadultered ARROGANCE from those morons who call themselves "admins".

 >:(

Yeah but feedback like "mashing X results in 800 damage" deserves being listened to doesn't it? He's free to ignore the this is nothing like X and needs Y changing. But things like damage and stupid things could be fixed without going into accuracy. He doesn't finish things, he just puts them out there in a "hey look i made something else" manner.

Since you stayed on topic by focusing squarely on Kong's work, I wouldn't normally reply, but, I have to say.. I don't see why you continue to care. If you think Kong is ignoring your feedback, why do you give two-bytes? Have you PM'd the guy? I mean, make me understand... why is it you and everyone else who bitches and moans about Kong not listening to anyone's feedback CONTINUE to bitch and moan about it. If it's to turn every person against him and to petition for him to stop releasing anything else, then you need to realize what the rest of the MUGEN world including IMT has realized when it comes to Kong... he does not CARE about your negative criticisms. There are worse works out there like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9QPqrTZr2g that you guys could be focusing all your negative energy on.

I also gotta say, if Shinra or anyone else for that matter wants to edit/patch his work, then feel free. That does not make Shinra a lackey. As a matter a fact, he is trying to help YOU guys by patching them but some of you guys turn your criticisms toward him also. None of you make sense.

Another thing I was going to end with is that I think if Kong's characters didn't have the prefix MvC then it would of been better in the long run because we can just toss these characters unto an unbalanced/crap pile and call it that. But he gives it a MvC...well not MvC feel with a template thats really not that great and because of that, threads like this are made.

I took a break for a little bit just now and went over IMT for fun and his thread is pretty much like "+1 word kongs, great job, best Iceman, perfected Mugen character and fav creator". Thats just silly man. Its just a really colorful forum with a membergroup rank/title for everything you can think of like Stage Creator, News Courier, Club-Syndicate Admin, Pallete maker and stuff like that. Its flash thats all heh. Bunch of young minds there I say at the exeption of 3 people that I think are pretty chill.

I also stumbled on this reply from one IMT user on Kongs thread....Ready...here it is.

Actually I'm kinda hoping Kong does Victor & Morrigan form Darkstalkers in MVC style.

*pulls a stupid face, shrugs and walks away upset knowing that a sad day for the Aenslands is near*

You DO know the same members of Infinity are members here, at MI and everywhere else right? I don't know why you think that just saying crap like "Bunch of young minds there" is just targeting IMT. Well, we can reply "bunch of leechers at MFG" and include you in that group too since you belong to this forum.  >:( Regardless what Kong releases next (and you know another one is brewing..) you should do what most of the non-leeching, smart and poop caring individuals do when it comes to his releases... pass them over. If Kong was making ANY of you download his stuff, then I would be embarrassed and I would be typing out apologies to each and everyone of you so called critics here. If you were paying Kong to create, I would be helping each and every so called critic here try to get their money back. Because he he isn't getting paid by you or IMT or because he isn't making you download his work, he could care less. Keep your criticisms on topic and on Kong's work. When you start talking about the IMT, IMT's members, etc, that's when we have a problem.

Since we are a "really colorful" forum with all of our ranks, guess you didn't need the Contributor rank.