The anatomy is important because its badness is very noticeable and detracts from the overall work. The bad anatomy does not add anything to the work besides more of Spider-Woman's ass. No one is demanding hyper realistic Alex Ross artwork of people stiffly posing and not much else. Stuff like Jack Kirby's exaggerated anatomy, suggesting power and poise, or even Todd McFarlane's Spider-Man stuff (with the crazy, often nonsensical poses he drew for Spidey to emphasize his agility and giving his webslinging a real sense of dynamism), that's all very different than shit like this. It's not even worth comparing.

Edtion said, August 22, 2014, 09:07:05 am

If you're going to argue about gender issues of over/sexualising a picture or ague about said argument (like Sky79 did) then say so.
If you're going to argue about what's actually important here (that being the image is not good), then say that.

You can do both. It's not one or the other. And don't go dismissing the terrible depiction of women in comics as "not important". Jesus fuck.

Xhominid said, August 22, 2014, 05:32:15 pm

2. There is a version of Women in Refrigerators for men: Men are the Expendable Gender. Having men be raped and have zero consequence(Or in fact, be BLAMED for it, see Green Arrow and Canary for that) happens compared to the other way around in comics or how about the fact that just like the women, the men usually carry out of this world physiques as well(Seriously, Deadpool looks like a terminal patient, yet still has the abs most would kill for, super regen be damned)

None of those are systemic, pressing issues (especially not male superhero physiques, that does not in any way compare to the way females are sexualized in comics). Well, the rape one is, but that's not really a male/female issue, it applies to both genders. We have a rape problem in our society, for both genders, and it's really fucked up! And comics have been by and large absolutely horrid at dealing with rape, whether it's male or female. But beyond the purview of this thread, yeah.

Oh, OK, here's something else: J. R. Ramirez was cast as Wildcat in Arrow. Which is absolutely terrible, another white character is being played by a nonwhite actor! I must away to mine fainting couch!

Wildcat needs a reboot, from the ground up anyway, I wouldn't have done it like this............ but eh.

I'm more interested how he'll look, really.

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Tape? really? tape?.......ugh

Wildcat needs no reboot. He works perfectly well as a nonpowered street level hero who was active during WWII and has since gone on to teach everyone from Batman to Black Canary how to fight. He works great as a remnant of the old guard, and one who is still actively involved with teaching and inspiring the next generation of heroes.

... or at least, that's how it used to work. Thanks nu52!


I'm not really sure what the problem with the tape is; he's a boxer, and he doesn't have rich murdered parents. The tape makes sense both as a design element (calling attention to his boxer nature) and as a character element (he's an ordinary dude who made his costume out of what he had).

I want you two to get in to it...preferably in the DC Comics Universe thread but where ever you want works.