ShinZankuro said, December 05, 2014, 01:25:01 am

PS: MUTEN ROSHI/KAME SENNIN IS BACK B**CHES =D

Not only that, he's gonna do some fighting with his muscle form and a Kamehameha, he won't just stand on the side and tell everyone to go attack the literal god of destruction

Víctorys said, December 05, 2014, 01:44:21 am

And Gohan goes SSJ...again.

Seriously, they did it last time, it was pointed out, and they fixed it. How come they're doing it again ? Did Toriyama actually decide that he wanted it to go back over it, or are they really just not paying attention ? Maybe they wanted to show Gohan's new haircut and still have him transform to his old style. but at this point I'd really prefer to just see the "Future Gohan" version from Future Trunks' timeline.

Oh, of course Freeza says he's got a "further evolution" - presumably a new transformation (not necessarily the same thing).
And what happened to Vegeta being a central part of the story this time around ? Is he just gonna get mad, get beaten, then stand on the side and wonder why people keep getting stronger than him ?

So far Frieza never real had a transformation, all he has are 3 forms that reduce his power level. This will be his first true transformation.

All of those moviews being made by toryama directly are canon, they are more canon than gt or anything of the like.


Toryama was also the designer for many of the movies so I wouldnt be surprised if he brought anyone from them back.



to clarify, this means:

=> son goku and his friends anniversary episode : Where the gang takes turns pulling turnips and fighting avocado
=> Battle of the gods: Where the gang realizes that power levels are bullshit
=> New freeza movie: where the gang fisticuffs with God freeza

are canon and happen either in place of the original ending or before it.

Kane when you're watching the anime, you can see bad guys in Hell with their bodies, so it's possible, no?
After I think I remember the rule you were talking about too.

I think It's time for me to open again my 42 books. Let's check stuff now!

Making this movie will take place in another universe or parallel dimension, and not cross over into the one we're all familiar with would be stupid and potentially destroy a ton of the canon that's been established if they didn't form the story properly.

I'm more inclined to think it's on purpose that they picked Freeza, and they'll come up with an explanation that will be the bulk of the whole point of the movie (a revival after more than a year, and how he'll stand up to god-level guys). We simply don't know it yet, we can have nothing more than wild speculations. The first teasers were talking about a catastrophic wish, after all, so something must be going wrong for Freeza to revive and not be ridiculously weak.
As for the new outfit, I'm nearly convinced that Goku is the one who's been training with Bills or Wills or he found someone new related to them. There's no way he wouldn't insist on getting such an opportunity after the BoG fight, and Bills saw the Super Saiyan God level so Goku should have caught his fancy.

any ball-related limit is set by the namekian/kamisama that is in charge of the balls, so it's a very easy "retcon", just make a different namekian be in create the balls.

2 of those are completely wrong D: And one of them I would never do, he's boring as shit :V