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adding ANY data causes errors!
#1  February 02, 2008, 02:35:38 am
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I started making a character for a friend. All seemed well until i suddenly couldnt play that character anymore. I tried everything I could possibly do. I replaced all sprites, I replaced all sounds, I replaced all airs and my CMD and CNS were pretty much new. I can ONLY get it to play if i delete data. if i add any and it goes over a limit it will stop working. I don't know how it got this limit and I don't know how much it is, but adding to the air, cns or cmd increases the data and will go over this hidden limit making my char crash the game. I thought I'd sussed it and that it was a sprite i had added, but it isn't. I just removed it and the made the data go below the limit. i added some stuff to the CNS and now it's over it again. If you want to see the char for yourself i'll be glad to send you it. My MSN is Lyndenidcool@yahoo.co.uk

thanks

I am trying to set up a Guardian Heroes Mugen Project. Before I do I'm trying to collect resources at http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=88937.msg770946#msg770946
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I am a beta-tester and am well known for being very pedantic.

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Re: adding ANY data causes errors!
#2  February 02, 2008, 06:52:10 am
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Yes please. Upload and PM me the link.


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Re: adding ANY data causes errors!
#3  February 02, 2008, 08:32:41 am
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I'm sorry but I wouldn't have any idea where I would go to upload a zip file. Besides I think it'd be not only faster over MSN but easier too. Or if you really want me to host it then send me a link to a good host. sorry, I never upload things that aren't pictures normaly.

I am trying to set up a Guardian Heroes Mugen Project. Before I do I'm trying to collect resources at http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=88937.msg770946#msg770946
I am more a sprite ripper than a character maker, but I can code well. I am always looking for projects to join. (I suck at solo projects)
I am a beta-tester and am well known for being very pedantic.

Cyanide

Re: adding ANY data causes errors!
#4  February 02, 2008, 08:53:02 am
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well, due to timezones and shit upload is a bit easier. Most people use megaupload or yousendit.

If all else fails you can send it to my rather spammy sighanide#hotmail.com.


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Re: adding ANY data causes errors!
#5  February 02, 2008, 07:36:49 pm
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okay i just hosted it. (Link removed by author)
If it has an odd image for the little icon pic then it's the right file. I included the proper pic.pcx to show you that changing it to the proper one will make it fail, as will adding more code or air.

I am trying to set up a Guardian Heroes Mugen Project. Before I do I'm trying to collect resources at http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=88937.msg770946#msg770946
I am more a sprite ripper than a character maker, but I can code well. I am always looking for projects to join. (I suck at solo projects)
I am a beta-tester and am well known for being very pedantic.
Last Edit: April 19, 2008, 07:59:44 am by Tails Clock

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Re: adding ANY data causes errors!
#6  February 02, 2008, 09:27:49 pm
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Is it normal if you have empty sprites for the gethits ?
Those bugs can come up with a badly compiled sff file. If you made it with Fighter Factory, you may want to try SprMaker instead and use the proper sprites to add. Doesn't Fighter Factory have a mode to get the text file to feed to SprMaker ?
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Re: adding ANY data causes errors!
#7  February 02, 2008, 10:33:40 pm
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If he's been adding blank images. Using sprmaker to add them probably won't improve matters.

What is interesting, is that it runs with a clone of his normal sprites in 9000,0 but if you put the actual icon there, it screws up. Or for that matter, any other image.

Got it working by doing as follows.

Making sure my first sprite was group 0 image 0 with shared pallete off (don't bother using this one in your .air file)
Removing the small icon and adding it after the character sprites with shared pallete off.
Removing the large portrait and putting it at the end of the sff shared pallete off.

Now due to the fact it was still broken even after removing the blank images this probably didn't fix it, but, removed the blank images.

I think your problem was most likely to do with 9000,0 9000,1 and 0,0 which you were missing. As of something i read ages ago. Mugen uses 0,0 to set the pallete for your characters sprites. It's something charsffdtow actually adds in if it's not there when you convert a character.


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Re: adding ANY data causes errors!
#8  February 03, 2008, 02:43:05 am
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Cyan, there are some other images other than the one i used that can make it work, but they were few.
I had never heard of this 0,0 sprite that I needed. Added it now and made it the first sprite in my SFF file with shared pallete off, but it just raised the data cap a bit was all. I got the icon back and added 3 new sprites, but it is still so hard to add anything without the same errors coming up still. I have another character who's got his air file filled and i'd guess at least 200 sprites in his SFF that I did the same thing with when making as I did with this char. How the heck has this one gone so horribly wrong?
(did not move portrait to the end, does that really help at all?)

What do you suggest I do? Give up on this char? I really can't see any possible way out of this and I've done everything I know how to...

I am trying to set up a Guardian Heroes Mugen Project. Before I do I'm trying to collect resources at http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=88937.msg770946#msg770946
I am more a sprite ripper than a character maker, but I can code well. I am always looking for projects to join. (I suck at solo projects)
I am a beta-tester and am well known for being very pedantic.

Cyanide

Re: adding ANY data causes errors!
#9  February 03, 2008, 03:06:51 am
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Well, did you
A: Delete the blank sprites
B: Move the small icon to the END
C: Move the large portrait to the END

I did all that, and he works. And can reliably add whatever i like. Specially as i copy pasted your single state -3 entry about 8 times and he kept functioning.


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Re: adding ANY data causes errors!
#10  February 03, 2008, 04:36:11 am
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I just moved both 9000 group sprites to the end. It looks like it's working fine now, but if it does act up again I'll notify you. I am certain it will as I have "fixed" it at least 15 times now. Thanks for all your help!

I am trying to set up a Guardian Heroes Mugen Project. Before I do I'm trying to collect resources at http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=88937.msg770946#msg770946
I am more a sprite ripper than a character maker, but I can code well. I am always looking for projects to join. (I suck at solo projects)
I am a beta-tester and am well known for being very pedantic.
Last Edit: February 08, 2008, 09:34:57 am by Tails Clock

Tails Clock

IT'S FIXED GUYS!
#11  April 19, 2008, 07:59:02 am
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Just so anyone else who has this problem knows, I finaly fixed it! The character messed up another 7-9 times so I just left. I started a new character and it happened again! It seems that when the KB size is between 50 and 100 and the last digit of the size is an odd number, it will crash. I haven't tested this but it seems pretty much like that. So when I wanted to testplay it I just added/removed something or changed some sharing settings on some sprites. Later on though the errors just stopped coming up and Now I've finished this new character. I will go back to my old ones now, I'm so glad to now know they are not totaly ruined. This has happened to every character I have ever made. My FF version is 1.0.9.2005 Update pack 1. I hope this helps anyone else who might get this problem.

Also, sorry about the whole necroposting thing...

I am trying to set up a Guardian Heroes Mugen Project. Before I do I'm trying to collect resources at http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=88937.msg770946#msg770946
I am more a sprite ripper than a character maker, but I can code well. I am always looking for projects to join. (I suck at solo projects)
I am a beta-tester and am well known for being very pedantic.
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