I was surprised to see that there is no Arrow thread here.I'm sure SOMEONE besides myself watches this show, especially considering that any of us are willing to put up with Agents of Shield.Tonight was the mid-season finale and I must say I was totally satisfied.Spoiler, click to toggle visibilty"Brother Cyrus" confirmed to indeed be Cyrus Gold aka Solomon Grundy, who was shown to be scarred throughout his face, strongly hinting at him having his gruesome comic book appearance in future episodes. Slade's return and overall appearance more accurate to the comics, Ollie's mask, Roy making the transition to an actual hero, Flash's origin, and overall an amazing episode.I like how they have a few well-known villains and characters here and there (Deadshot, China White) as well as important ones with larger roles (Brother Blood, Merlin), while hinting at future villains (Ra's).
It isn't part of the cinematic universe as far as we know yet. To say otherwise would be pure speculation.
To be honest when i saw the first episode of Arrow i knew immediately that its the story of Green Arrow , with the introduction of Slade Wilson they just confirmed that i was right , so far the TV Series is pure awesome , i enjoyed every single episode of it. I heard that in 2014 we will see the Flash TV Series , cant wait for that one.
NGeo said, December 13, 2013, 12:22:21 pmwhen i saw the first episode of Arrow i knew immediately that its the story of Green ArrowNo shit SherlockWhat gave it away, the green archer costume, the name Oliver Queen, the name of the city, the credits that name DC Comics and Green Arrow ?Season 1 was weird because they didn't know what to do with it for half of it, and then it put itself together and went on the right path, but with the last couple of episodes, the origin story of Flash, Deathstroke, and with everything that's still around (Merlin, Ra's Al Ghul, the Huntress) and everything else, it's getting really crowded all of a sudden, even though now we can really feel like it's the actual comic. One thing that season 1 did right was to stick to only one main storyline, these last two episodes started shooting all over the place at once.
The Laurel storyline has been a dud, but it looks like it may be over now. Not looking forward to Huntress coming back since I thought she was the worst part of season 1. Also surprised we haven't seen more Merlyn.
Well, we had enough of him in season 1, it looks like they made him come back only for the League of the Assassins stuff, but I don't see why they'd throw Merlyn in the middle of the Deathstroke business unless they interact in some way, it'd be weird for Green Arrow to handle both of them at the same time when one of them would just be a repeat of season 1 but then again I could say the same about Huntress unless she's just random filler. I don't think we'll see him again for this season. Maybe once the Deathstroke arc is done (whether he dies or goes the same way as Merlyn), they can use him to lead back into the League of the Assassins arc ending with Ra's... Except he's more Batman material so the League would need another big name to be relevant. If it's not, Merlyn's entire character becomes uninteresting if it's not just to wrap up the Thia storyline and no masked vigilante business. That's the only way I'd see him matter any more, just your run-of-the-mill daddy issue. I'd be okay with that.
Show is alright but that's about it. Season 1 was bad but they improved near season finale and they continued to do so in s02. Here in Poland there are some fanboys of the show who masturbate over each episode and I feel show is overrated. Amnel improved his acting through series but he is still average during dramatic/emotional scenes. But he works well in fighting scenes & such so it's good. Loved Felicity. Actress is pretty, funny, have a lot of charm. I liked Diggle but lately he's not getting any attention, mostly just standing & talking to other characters. I love Caity Loitz who play Sara. She is so much better than Laurel & I hope she sticks with team for longer time. I'm afraid they will kill her later down the road to transform Laurel in real Canary but I don't know how it's gonna happen. Oliver needed 5 years to get good in fighting & hero thing, and I can't imagine how they could do that in 1-2 seasons for Laurel, which is 1-2 years in time. They could pull Time skip though.... We will see but I REALLY REALLY hope Sara will stay. Her recent relationship with Oliver have more life in it than one with Laurel ever has and it's such a shame Laurel proably will be his "ending" girlfriend.... As for Laurel she is most annoying character in the show. I absolutely hate her and it' very suprising that Kate Cassidy play her so bad. She used be so awesome as Ruby in Supernatural (before they replaced her wih another actress ), or on Harper's Island... She is decent actress but in Arrow she plays in "soap Opera" style, which is annoying and the fact that Laurel is regular "damsel in distress" doesn't help. Another reason why I prefer sara who is prety, better writtten and can kick some ass. I often think that Kate inability to act is caused by how bad character is written. From awesome Ruby to bad Laurel is huge difference and I can't believe she's gotten worse in acting department.... My other gripe with the show is that have too many episodes and because of that they put a lot filler material in it. From my experiences less episodes = the better (Person of Interest is proud exception) and good shows mostly end at 13 episodes per season. CW also have habbit of getting all clean & pretty actors which stays clean & pretty even if they are getting dirty, to the point it's looks fake and unrealistic. Many of viewers In Poland also joke that episode without naked chest of Stephen Amnell is bad episode lol It's true though they expose him very often. And BTW they have plans for many seasons. I readed they mentioned that Isand flashbacks will end is season five which will be 5 years from his return, and they will have to replace it with something else. I'm curious about Flash spin-off too because it' will be character with actual powers not with some scientific enhacements like in Arrow. I only disliked that they casted black girl as Iris (Flash girlfriend), but maybe she will turn out to be ok.
Jarek Bachanek said, March 05, 2014, 09:28:49 pmAnd BTW they have plans for many seasons. I readed they mentioned that Isand flashbacks will end is season five which will be 5 years from his return, and they will have to replace it with something else. Time-skip 5 years into the future. Oliver's a seasoned hero (bonus points if they have him sporting the beard) possibly running for mayor like the storyline in the comics pre-Flashpoint. Flashbacks are now to the "present" day to explain things that are happening post-skip.
So did you guys enjoy seeingSpoiler, click to toggle visibiltySlade's eye socket tonight?It was a pretty interesting episode I think. It was fun to see the majority of it be on the island.The next episode is on March 19thSpoiler, click to toggle visibiltyIt will be about the Suicide Squad. People have speculated that the woman featured in the trailer might be Harley QuinnHmmm...
The episode was WAY intense, I loved it. Really good action, no standard CW pop music, it was easily the best one of the season so far.
Eye carambaSpoiler, click to toggle visibiltyAnyone else think it looks like there is a little eye hidden back there? XD
This ep was great. And the suicide squad ep looks awesome as well. His eye cavity was creepy as fuck.
it could be her, I can't see who else it might be. Although I'd rather they not take too much stuff from bats villain lineup. I'm not familiar with all of GA's comic cast in general(besides black canary and speedy) so there's that.
I think it's possible. At this point she's associated with Suicide Squad enough that they could put her in without going too much into her backstory.
Fun fact, the girl who played "Deranged Squad Female" who is clearly Harley Quinn was none other than Tara Strong, the current Harley voice actor
It's no theory that was definitely harley Quinn she even said she was a psychiatrist. The episode was a real good. Specially how they switched it up and it was mainly about the suicide squadI specially liked at the end how they say "We call him Deathstroke" Just thought I'd ask but does anybody else FUCKING HATE THAT BITCH AMANDA WALER! I hated her in the comics and in the cartoons.
I think she is kind of meant to be hated. Among all the super powered characters and vigilantes, she has always been a type of real world government character.I'm just disappointed that she isn't the chubby lady she is supposed to be. Not that her Arrow interpretation isn't pleasing to look at..
Unfortunately, that's a change straight from the comics. Although I guess Smallville did it first when it cast Pam Grier.
The New 52 also made her look like that.I was worried it would feel like a filler, but it was well done and not out of place, and the little double twist at the end (first name basis, tracking Deathstroke) made it work. Posted: March 21, 2014, 07:08:30 pmOh, yeah, and they didn't involve Harley while still having her talk, that helped not feeling like the Squad was taking over out of nowhere (and stick to the ongoing story) while still giving fanservice.
So next episode is the big showdown with Slade. People are speculating that Malcolm might end up saving Thea. Who knows..
So I just got up to speed with this the other day. Fuckload better than I thought it'd be. Is it DCCU?DatKofGuy said, March 20, 2014, 03:38:59 pmFun fact, the girl who played "Deranged Squad Female" who is clearly Harley Quinn was none other than Tara Strong, the current Harley voice actorIt was actually Cassidy Alexa, with Strong's voice dubbed over. So yeah, I don't think they're gonna do that too often.Stephen Amell said:Is it easy being green? Well it's better than being purple.Hawkeye fetching some burncream.
I think its undecided on whether or not it is part of the cinematic universe. I certainly hope they decide that it is. It doesn't mean we have to have Superman showing up in Starling City but it would be nice to know that everything is connected.
I hope there is a DCCU (it's already connected to the upcoming Flash series since he made his debut in Arrow), and I hope that Man of Steel and the Nolan trilogy are not part of it. And I hope that this upcoming "Batman - the high school years" thingy is not part of it either.To compare to the MCU, Marvel has a team that supervises everything and it's all the same studios (it's all just Marvel), while for DC, the Arrow and the upcoming Flash are done by the CW network (not like DC or Warner Bros do anything themselves), and the movies aren't connected (the Nolan ones were done way before anything else and we have yet to see what they do with the Man of Steel 2 crossover). Best we can get is random nods acknowledging the other stuff, but there won't be a direct connection until we know where the MoS2/Batman movie goes.
Man of Steel and the Nolan Batman trilogy are already not connected to each other, hence why we're getting a new Batman.
I don't think that's been actually confirmed ? we're getting a new Batman character in the Nolanverse anyway because Wayne retired, but it doesn't mean the Nolan trilogy didn't happen until we're sure it's a new Bruce Wayne. Are we ?And either way, to be more specific, I hope that the Nolan trilogy isn't part of the shared universe and MoS isn't part of the shared universe either, not just that Nolanverse isn't shared with MoS.
Ben Affleck is playing Bruce Wayne, complete with a new Alfred. They'll probably take things from the previous movies so no one will be too confused, but those movies had a beginning, middle and end.As far as I'm concerned there's the CW-verse (I think Flash is gonna be the show where you see more of the other heroes), there's Gotham, and there's whatever MoS is trying to build (Snyderverse? Goyerverse?). Maybe Gotham is part of the bigger universe, but if they want to do Bat Babies for 10 years or whatever they probably shouldn't limit what they're able to do. It would be just like the Bat-Embargo back in the days of the DCAU.
DKDC said, April 06, 2014, 01:32:24 pmI don't think that's been actually confirmed ? we're getting a new Batman character in the Nolanverse anyway because Wayne retired, but it doesn't mean the Nolan trilogy didn't happen until we're sure it's a new Bruce Wayne. Are we ?And either way, to be more specific, I hope that the Nolan trilogy isn't part of the shared universe and MoS isn't part of the shared universe either, not just that Nolanverse isn't shared with MoS.I guess you're right. So far it has just been an assumption based on common sense but I suppose there aren't any facts. I do know as much as Arrow not being part of the Nolan continuity though. What with there being League of Shadows in one, and League of Assassins in another.
If Ben Affleck is in fact Bruce Wayne Batman, I really don't want him in the CWverse ! Yeah, the Nolan movies have some good stuff like Ledger Joker (that style would work great in the CWverse), but the movies as a universe are just full of weird one-shot one-plot stuff. The League and Bane don't work as well as the League works in Arrow. Of course it was for a standalone movie (I mean not a long running series), it all served the purpose of that one twist about "the child of RAG" (and Bane's "I was nobody until I put on the mask" line), but even in the movie the twist came out of nowhere, just to have Batman stabbed in the gut (right through his bullet stopping body armor thank you very much). In CW it's an overall threat, something that's permanently out there in the world, it's something that can chug out any new thing any time.
I really hope some of you guys are going to want to talk about the finale, and I'm not just bumping this for nothing.Anyway, thoughts?Spoiler, click to toggle visibiltyRed Arrow! A new Canary (god, I hope not)! Thea Queen is dead, call her Thea Merlyn (or Cheshire?)! Daddy Diggle! Flashbacks changing location to Hong Kong! Flash trailer!
Honestly, Amell and Bennett (Slade) completely sold the whole show. Awesome portrayal and interactions they got there, from the moment Slade appeared, right up until the finale. Thinking of it, season 1 started getting its shit together and knowing where it was going around the time Slade came up and replaced the other "Deathstroke". It's when they stopped making dumb references to characters (like the one to Laurel's voice back in the early episodes or Thea being nicknamed Speedy) while trying too hard to make it more realistic (no actual Canary, Deathstroke is just a random hired torture-man...), and it's also when they started to implement the actual characters, still in a realistic way. Everything after that was based on the interactions between Slade and Oliver (even if Slade wasn't coming back as Deathstroke until S2), and all the other characters gravitated toward that to make it work, and they in turn ended up working out well. They just sort of got in position, aligned themselves on that duo, to make way for this season finale.Miracle Roy felt to me for a long while like they were trying to go with some version of Arsenal (loony loner of sorts, even if without the weaponry), and Thea turning Merlyn make their relationship feel like the one with Cheshire. While I really don't think Laurel will end up going Canary (with the level of realism they're holding to, and as opposed to the reference they made in the early S1 episodes, she wouldn't suddenly gain the same training as Sarah), Thea is already going over the edge and she's joining daddy, so there's a big chance for Cheshire, but not before the later half of the next season. Just a year of daddy training would be a really short time to turn her into that - and going crazy is an advantage she has over Laurel, who definitely won't have time to get anywhere near a new Canary.Oh, I'm a little disappointed that Quentin Lance didn't just call out Oliver's name in the middle of that speech he did to him. I was expecting a "buddy, look at me, I'm a cop, of course I know it's you" (even after telling Laurel he didn't care who the Arrow really was). Actually, his character worked out surprisingly well despite being original and not from the comics (after S1 was all "dumb police against good vigilante") (well, I'm looking him up now and he only has the name in common with the comics counterpart so I count him as an original addition).
