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Banned ROMs, thanks to ESA..?
#1  November 28, 2007, 05:19:26 pm
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I remember back in 2001/2002, when I was in high school that's all I did; download and play roms of my fav games all day. Well just a few mins ago I was trying to find DKC3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble for d/l, only to have my favorite rom sites give me this hypocrisy about "This game is protected by the ESA and is not available for download."

Now, I have mixed feelings when it comes to emulation. But, this ESA protection is total bullshit. Why not just ban the whole website's archive instead of one game? Then again, why is the ESA holding the first/third party developer's hand in the first place? The responsibility on protecting piracy of games should be put more on the companies that produce them, not the ESA.

Anyway, I'm kinda pissed about it. Anyone else come into this stupidity?
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#2  November 28, 2007, 05:22:48 pm
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You can try eMule,Limewire or Torrents.

It is not that bad for me,since my favourite games are not in the ESA protected list.

BTW,Roms in any form are illegal,worse than mugen character stealing/warehousing,but i guess no one cares.
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#3  November 28, 2007, 05:51:18 pm
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#4  November 28, 2007, 05:52:15 pm
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well metaphorically, lets say the esa are the police. the companies are the suvillians. and you're the criminal. thats how i see it! thats why the esa is there. and some sivillians don't care so they don't use the ESA(police)

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#5  November 28, 2007, 05:53:14 pm
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There are other rom sites that have DK3..I DLed DK2 there a few days ago.
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#6  November 28, 2007, 05:56:42 pm
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saying that roms are illegal is not correct, even if that's true in 99% of the cases. there is the remaining 1% of people who bought the carts.
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#7  November 28, 2007, 05:56:57 pm
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Some Roms Such As Super Mario World Are Protected But Could Be Found In Limewire Easy...
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#8  November 28, 2007, 06:03:39 pm
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Bitches don't know about Livewire/E-Mule/Rapidshare.


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#9  November 28, 2007, 07:14:11 pm
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banning roms is kinda stupid considering that people would by the originals anyways. My opinion: it's okay as long as noone gets violated. And no, a game worth $1 on gamestop isn't going to make as much as an impact as a $70.
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#10  November 28, 2007, 07:22:32 pm
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Yeah, I downloaded games I don't have. Half the games I ever played were roms.

And, really, I'm not letting ESA stop me from downloading games.
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#11  November 28, 2007, 09:45:06 pm
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Never heard of this ESA or their list... then again I mostly just download tv shows =p
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#12  November 28, 2007, 10:10:54 pm
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you download stuff that you could otherwise watch for free on tv?
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#13  November 28, 2007, 10:33:41 pm
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I can understand.

On TV: Comercials, needs to be at a specific time/recorded etc. Dl'd easier to have while working on things, and whenever you want at a scalable size.

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#14  November 28, 2007, 10:44:32 pm
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you download stuff that you could otherwise watch for free on tv?
I don't have cable, satellite, or antennae.

The 1st 2 cost too much and the last just won't pick up. I don't watch many shows anyway, not worth the bills.
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#15  November 29, 2007, 01:37:50 am
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An awesome pc can beat a TV, DVD player, console, and an entire library. Hell you can get a degree with one.

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#16  November 29, 2007, 02:28:24 am
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Bleh, a lot of gamer download roms if they don't feel like using money. 
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#17  November 29, 2007, 02:39:47 am
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A lot of gamers download roms because these games aren't readily available and Wii's VC is overpriced.


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#18  November 29, 2007, 03:58:11 am
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Roms can never be banned as long as its legal to make your own backups of data that you physically own.
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#19  November 29, 2007, 04:00:40 am
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Use a site that hosts the ROMs in Israel :P

Thats what I do. ESA aint got shit on private property
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#20  November 29, 2007, 11:04:44 pm
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A lot of gamers download roms because these games aren't readily available and Wii's VC is overpriced.

Yeah I agree with that. I swear the whole reason why roms are so popular is because of places like gametap or Wii's VC being so pricy.

Essentially I flip people that treat me like a money bag off. Because after all, that's all we are to them.
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#21  November 29, 2007, 11:06:59 pm
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#22  November 30, 2007, 01:42:45 pm
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Wait... is this a thread complaining that it's becoming more difficult to illegally download games?

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#23  November 30, 2007, 06:36:53 pm
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Wait... is this a thread complaining that it's becoming more difficult to illegally download games?

I'm complaining about the hyprocrisy of the rom sites who are doing something illegal to begin with but think that replacing a rom's download link with the ESA protection statement will make everything better. If they wanted to play by the rules they'd shut themselves down completely.

Don't get me wrong. It's a step up from the "You must delete these roms within 24 hrs!" statements the rom sites use to post, but ultimately, it all seems like bullshit. If you're for distributing roms, then do it. If you're against it, then don't contradict yourself by releasing some and not releasing others.
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#24  November 30, 2007, 06:47:07 pm
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Don't get me wrong. It's a step up from the "You must delete these roms within 24 hrs!" statements the rom sites use to post, but ultimately, it all seems like bullshit. If you're for distributing roms, then do it. If you're against it, then don't contradict yourself by releasing some and not releasing others.

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#25  November 30, 2007, 07:39:30 pm
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Okay, that's much clearer. And I agree. :)
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#26  November 30, 2007, 10:20:44 pm
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this happened with some roms...like James BOnd the Duel for Master System ROm...
but..why?
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#27  December 01, 2007, 02:36:31 am
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this happened with some roms...like James BOnd the Duel for Master System ROm...
but..why?
'cause the Faggotry of Neo America has gotten to Video Games.

No offense, but when I say Neo America, I mean the America that doesn't do what it used to: Stand up for itself, defend her back. Now it's just a pussyfest, except the pussies are more into cowering into a fetal position. The security levels are so high it gets Ridiculous sometimes.


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#28  December 01, 2007, 01:22:59 pm
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this happened with some roms...like James BOnd the Duel for Master System ROm...
but..why?
'cause the Faggotry of Neo America has gotten to Video Games.

No offense, but when I say Neo America, I mean the America that doesn't do what it used to: Stand up for itself, defend her back. Now it's just a pussyfest, except the pussies are more into cowering into a fetal position. The security levels are so high it gets Ridiculous sometimes.
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#29  September 16, 2008, 04:30:56 am
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Roms can never be banned as long as its legal to make your own backups of data that you physically own.

You know I always wondered how did the roms get on the computer in the first place.
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#32  September 16, 2008, 04:50:17 am
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A reader is made and that dumps the data onto a computer.  An emulator then reads the rom and tries to copy the way the game system would play that game.


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#33  September 16, 2008, 05:21:16 am
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Almost 12 years ago I went to a friend's house to play some SNES with him; when I inserted my Super Metroid cart into his SNES, a rare message showed up saying something about "licenced peripherals yada yada"

The cart thought my friend's SNES was a dumper. He.
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#34  September 16, 2008, 06:27:37 am
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The esa a thing I can understand if they plan on repackaging a game on some other system. It bothers me when a game that you know they are not going to re-release is protected. Like the original Star Wars Arcade Game. It was the first Arcade game I fell in love with so I would love to play it for the purposes of nostalgia so I can remember being a little tike having to sit on a stool so I would be tall enough to play it. I wouldn't buy the dam thing and no one else would either considering the shitty vector and everything so it's not like they can resell the thing.
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#35  September 16, 2008, 09:08:45 am
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They either follow the ESA or risk having their site get pwned by Nintendo. They're master lurkers appareently.
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#36  September 16, 2008, 06:02:50 pm
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Wait... is this a thread complaining that it's becoming more difficult to illegally download games?

I'm complaining about the hyprocrisy of the rom sites who are doing something illegal to begin with but think that replacing a rom's download link with the ESA protection statement will make everything better. If they wanted to play by the rules they'd shut themselves down completely.

Don't get me wrong. It's a step up from the "You must delete these roms within 24 hrs!" statements the rom sites use to post, but ultimately, it all seems like bullshit. If you're for distributing roms, then do it. If you're against it, then don't contradict yourself by releasing some and not releasing others.
well the point in there is if they don't host those roms the ESA will leave them alone so I guess you could call it a tradeoff.
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#37  September 19, 2008, 02:30:53 am
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The esa a thing I can understand if they plan on repackaging a game on some other system. It bothers me when a game that you know they are not going to re-release is protected.
Also, you can wait for 60 years and then the game will become public domain property.
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#38  September 19, 2008, 03:30:34 am
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I only rip off games that are so old that the only people making money off them are Gamestop type places.

As for remakes, I buy them regardless of if I have the rom if they're good games. I bought SMW and FF5 for the GBA, despite playing both extensively on an emulator beforehand.



And for the ESA licence things... I've never understood their existance either. I did however quite humorously bypass it on one website for a SMRPG rom; they removed the download link from the description page, but not the file off their servers. I was able to guess the URL correctly to download it.
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#39  September 19, 2008, 04:19:13 am
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saying that roms are illegal is not correct, even if that's true in 99% of the cases. there is the remaining 1% of people who bought the carts.

hell yeah...the only neogeo MVS game I can play "legally" in an emulator is KOF2k1, i still have that cartridge...

and i know what sites are you all referring, they did that because nintendo actually got their asses and they told the sites that if they don't take out that list of games, they will get their sites closed, that was 2 years ago, the sites needed to take down the roms at least before october and before the pre-release of the wii...

it's obvious that the games taken out were part of the plans for the VC in wii...

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