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best/worst chracter(s)
#1  September 21, 2007, 04:07:53 am
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So far the worse charcter I have is Ironangel, she sucks ass, all she does to just stand around attacking nothing powering up for the most part and when she doess attack her attacks are fairly weak and inffective, best charicter I have is wolverine, total bad ass AI, slaughtered magneto three times out of three, onsluaght rocks but apocalylpes bites the high hard one, when he goes into his ultamit fighting mode he only has half a life bar of energy but he does same major damage though

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#2  September 21, 2007, 04:19:00 am
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So you mean best/worst AI, right?

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#3  September 21, 2007, 04:21:22 am
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felineki said, September 21, 2007, 04:19:00 am
So you mean best/worst AI, right?

In other words, don't focus on it.

Really, just learn to code your own AI, and don't insult other people's creations.
Sorry to sound so blunt, but by saying, outright, that something sucks, ignores what creating is all about.
LOL, Caddie's the man!! ;)

I'm as real as the runnin, I just happen to rap, Nigaas London, Japan, and i'm scared of dat tap.

I suggest extending my banning, cuz when I come back, it's gonna be hell. You think I was annoying before, oh man, it's on now :)
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Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 04:24:34 am by Tee Hee Hee

Kargan303

Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#4  September 21, 2007, 04:28:17 am
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Tee Hee Hee said, September 21, 2007, 04:21:22 am
felineki said, September 21, 2007, 04:19:00 am
So you mean best/worst AI, right?

In other words, don't focus on it.

Really, just learn to code your own AI, and don't insult other people's creations.
Sorry to sound so blunt, but by saying, outright, that something sucks, ignores what creating is all about.

Your right about that but I have no idea on how to code an AI, if it even has one, I'm new to mugen so I really don't understand it and I'm not sure if moding someone else work is ok or not otherwise I'd ramp up the AI and I am just stating my personal opinion about the ironangel

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#5  September 21, 2007, 04:36:08 am
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You can modify mine:  :)

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=64595.0



I try to make my codes as simple as possible in order to allow people who want to learn coding, a chance to better understand what is going on.

That's how I learned to code AI; I found Shin Hayato's Guile, looked at and edited the coding, judged the effects, and gradually expanded upon his style and made my own.

You can use my codes, but if you want to take a crack at more complex codes, reference to the "Docs" in your Mugen Folder, and/or 'Rei's' coding.

Hopefully you'll be able to eventually translate all of that. (That took me a while to finally figure out, but it becomes fairly simple after a while... a long time).

Funny thing is, I only understand maybe a good 85% of the code.
LOL, Caddie's the man!! ;)

I'm as real as the runnin, I just happen to rap, Nigaas London, Japan, and i'm scared of dat tap.

I suggest extending my banning, cuz when I come back, it's gonna be hell. You think I was annoying before, oh man, it's on now :)
hjk vs. 99% of MFG. I will win.

RIP Poo Bear Tell my Dead Homie isson, for the year my partner.

wicked1one11!!

Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#6  September 21, 2007, 04:39:09 am
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My worse character was deleted :-X
Simple as that, I don't even remember what it was...I'm too picky with my characters :S

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#7  September 21, 2007, 04:58:22 am
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List of my Worst Characters:
Bad Mr Frosty by Frantic: He does not play like he is suppose to and he has no sound.
Taffy1 by Shadowtak: Same as above(cept the sound part).
blob by Shadowtak: Same as above.
Every MK Character by Mike Obrecht: Over powered, don't play like right, and Cheap AI.
Fordy by Freezell: Worst character ever.
Ryuuken by aZCal: Cheap and Really Cheap AI.
Fox Mccloud by Gigan X3: Sprites aren't good and needs more attacks+sounds.

List of my Best Characters:
Kamen Rider 1 by Kifune: He has almost every attack KR1 does.  :sugoi:
Neku by Tetsuo9999: Cool Combos and Supers.
Mizoguchi by Tin: ..
Octo by Shadowtak: Alot of Supers, Claytalitys, etc.
Ickybod Clay by Shadowtak: He was one of my fav characters in Clay Fighter and same as above..
Kamen Rider Kabuto by qzak: ...
All of Choujins characters: ...
MegamanZero by N-Mario: Hes my fav character in SvC.
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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#8  September 21, 2007, 03:20:43 pm
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Best:
Predator warrior
All of choujins
Worst:
Nightmare can burn in hell
all creations by the guy that made nightmare
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#9  September 21, 2007, 03:52:44 pm
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how bout that micheal jackson character, I thought it was just going be nothin much until I heard his supers make his opponents dance to death, to his oldies.

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#10  September 21, 2007, 03:58:51 pm
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The worst character in my roster is Nightmare; you literally cannot kill him....Even Light Yagami couldn't kill him, who causes instant death no matter how much life a character has.

Next to him would be Gouken, because he gets that infinite special thing going, and you can hit him, but he's invincible, so he'll just start another special.

Kargan303

Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#11  September 21, 2007, 04:46:53 pm
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Tee Hee Hee said, September 21, 2007, 04:36:08 am
You can modify mine:  :)

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?topic=64595.0



I try to make my codes as simple as possible in order to allow people who want to learn coding, a chance to better understand what is going on.

That's how I learned to code AI; I found Shin Hayato's Guile, looked at and edited the coding, judged the effects, and gradually expanded upon his style and made my own.

You can use my codes, but if you want to take a crack at more complex codes, reference to the "Docs" in your Mugen Folder, and/or 'Rei's' coding.

Hopefully you'll be able to eventually translate all of that. (That took me a while to finally figure out, but it becomes fairly simple after a while... a long time).

Funny thing is, I only understand maybe a good 85% of the code.

Ok Thanks, but do I need tools to mod the AI?, if so what are they?
and thank you for offering me not only your advice but the AI as well

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#12  September 21, 2007, 05:36:52 pm
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Well, you need a keyboard to alter AI. You basically have everything else. I don't know how to alter AI, but AI is normally kept in the .cmd folder.
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Imagine a zanguief runing to attack ryu, ryu does a quick+kind of weak fast punch and hit the chest of zanguief, will this punch be enough to zanguief say/think \"oh no, this punch hurted a little, I better stop the attack and put my hand on my chest to help contain the pain while ignoring if ryu is going to make other attacks now"


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If someone isn't able to get girls laid, why buying this exorcist needing piece of retardet piece of bullshit an not wisiting his local red light district. For that money he could  :hump: tons of hookers.

hjk

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#13  September 21, 2007, 08:53:32 pm
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Materials for AI:

Downlaod a program called "Fighter Factory". It organizes your code through a system of colors making everything easy to see.




Get it here: (I wonder if this is their legitimate site now... I tried the old link and it's now down)

http://www.freewarefiles.com/program_1_21_19675.html
LOL, Caddie's the man!! ;)

I'm as real as the runnin, I just happen to rap, Nigaas London, Japan, and i'm scared of dat tap.

I suggest extending my banning, cuz when I come back, it's gonna be hell. You think I was annoying before, oh man, it's on now :)
hjk vs. 99% of MFG. I will win.

RIP Poo Bear Tell my Dead Homie isson, for the year my partner.

Siebzehn

Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#14  September 21, 2007, 09:23:44 pm
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You don't need FF to alter AI (my friend did this once). Also, AI coding doesn't really look much different on FF. But if you really need it...
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Imagine a zanguief runing to attack ryu, ryu does a quick+kind of weak fast punch and hit the chest of zanguief, will this punch be enough to zanguief say/think \"oh no, this punch hurted a little, I better stop the attack and put my hand on my chest to help contain the pain while ignoring if ryu is going to make other attacks now"


Cenobite 53 said:
If someone isn't able to get girls laid, why buying this exorcist needing piece of retardet piece of bullshit an not wisiting his local red light district. For that money he could  :hump: tons of hookers.

hjk

Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#15  September 21, 2007, 09:35:04 pm
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Jesus-jizah-Zillah said, September 21, 2007, 09:23:44 pm
You don't need FF to alter AI (my friend did this once). Also, AI coding doesn't really look much different on FF. But if you really need it...

I wasn't saying you really need it.

I was simply suggesting that it makes it more organized than just opening the CMD and editing.

AI codes can also lie in teh CNS but you'll encounter the same problem.

FF is EXTREMELY useful when it comes to AI coding.
LOL, Caddie's the man!! ;)

I'm as real as the runnin, I just happen to rap, Nigaas London, Japan, and i'm scared of dat tap.

I suggest extending my banning, cuz when I come back, it's gonna be hell. You think I was annoying before, oh man, it's on now :)
hjk vs. 99% of MFG. I will win.

RIP Poo Bear Tell my Dead Homie isson, for the year my partner.
Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 11:58:50 pm by Tee Hee Hee

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#16  September 21, 2007, 10:07:39 pm
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I've only see AI codes in the .cmd files, except for those with basic AI.

I guess, in cases like those, they're in the .cns files, right?
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Imagine a zanguief runing to attack ryu, ryu does a quick+kind of weak fast punch and hit the chest of zanguief, will this punch be enough to zanguief say/think \"oh no, this punch hurted a little, I better stop the attack and put my hand on my chest to help contain the pain while ignoring if ryu is going to make other attacks now"


Cenobite 53 said:
If someone isn't able to get girls laid, why buying this exorcist needing piece of retardet piece of bullshit an not wisiting his local red light district. For that money he could  :hump: tons of hookers.

BurgerKing

Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#17  September 21, 2007, 10:31:30 pm
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Nevermind.
\"oohwhap\" said:
dont requset my chars tey r prevet
Last Edit: September 21, 2007, 10:44:47 pm by BurgerKing

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#18  September 21, 2007, 10:33:43 pm
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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#19  September 21, 2007, 10:45:51 pm
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Gintoki said, September 21, 2007, 10:33:43 pm
Jesus-jizah-Zillah said, September 21, 2007, 10:07:39 pm
I've only see AI codes in the .cmd files, except for those with basic AI.

I guess, in cases like those, they're in the .cns files, right?
Ive seen some with AI codes in both the .cns and .cmd.

BurgerKing said, September 21, 2007, 10:31:30 pm
Gintoki said, September 21, 2007, 04:58:22 am

Fox Mccloud by Gigan X3: Sprites aren't good


Are you fucking serious?
They aren't..

Jesus, you're always bashing on other people's custom sprites...
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Imagine a zanguief runing to attack ryu, ryu does a quick+kind of weak fast punch and hit the chest of zanguief, will this punch be enough to zanguief say/think \"oh no, this punch hurted a little, I better stop the attack and put my hand on my chest to help contain the pain while ignoring if ryu is going to make other attacks now"


Cenobite 53 said:
If someone isn't able to get girls laid, why buying this exorcist needing piece of retardet piece of bullshit an not wisiting his local red light district. For that money he could  :hump: tons of hookers.

tetsuo9999

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#20  September 21, 2007, 10:52:37 pm
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Jesus-jizah-Zillah said, September 21, 2007, 10:45:51 pm
Gintoki said, September 21, 2007, 10:33:43 pm
Jesus-jizah-Zillah said, September 21, 2007, 10:07:39 pm
I've only see AI codes in the .cmd files, except for those with basic AI.

I guess, in cases like those, they're in the .cns files, right?
Ive seen some with AI codes in both the .cns and .cmd.

BurgerKing said, September 21, 2007, 10:31:30 pm
Gintoki said, September 21, 2007, 04:58:22 am

Fox Mccloud by Gigan X3: Sprites aren't good


Are you fucking serious?
They aren't..

Jesus, you're always bashing on other people's custom sprites...
Its called feedback, I was a spriter, so i know crappy sprites when i see them.  ;)
The only users that get pissed over feedback(w/o Cool CHAR!!11) are users at Infinity and MI. ;)
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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#21  September 21, 2007, 11:09:08 pm
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Didn't you say someones sprites look like shit?
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Imagine a zanguief runing to attack ryu, ryu does a quick+kind of weak fast punch and hit the chest of zanguief, will this punch be enough to zanguief say/think \"oh no, this punch hurted a little, I better stop the attack and put my hand on my chest to help contain the pain while ignoring if ryu is going to make other attacks now"


Cenobite 53 said:
If someone isn't able to get girls laid, why buying this exorcist needing piece of retardet piece of bullshit an not wisiting his local red light district. For that money he could  :hump: tons of hookers.

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#22  September 21, 2007, 11:34:38 pm
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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#23  September 22, 2007, 12:03:01 am
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Thank you everyone for your input on this topic, THH(TeeHeeHee) I have FF already, just have'nt installed it you but thanks for the link it will be a good back up in case the site I got it from crashes.
I'm signed up at MI and they can be a bit stiff necked but all in all they have not treated me badly so I'm not going to say anything bad about them, but I will say this, this forum seems to be a little more friendly then the MI forum though, well I'm off to putter around with your AI THH, thanks a lot if I have any questions I'll be sure to ask you if you don't mind.

hjk

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#24  September 22, 2007, 12:08:38 am
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Urza the Panzermanathod said, September 21, 2007, 11:34:38 pm
what

Seconded




Jesus-jizah-Zillah said, September 21, 2007, 10:45:51 pm
Jesus, you're always bashing on other people's custom sprites...

.. what?





Kargan303 said, September 22, 2007, 12:03:01 am
Thank you everyone for your input on this topic, THH(TeeHeeHee) I have FF already, just have'nt installed it you but thanks for the link it will be a good back up in case the site I got it from crashes.
I'm signed up at MI and they can be a bit stiff necked but all in all they have not treated me badly so I'm not going to say anything bad about them, but I will say this, this forum seems to be a little more friendly then the MI forum though, well I'm off to putter around with your AI THH, thanks a lot if I have any questions I'll be sure to ask you if you don't mind.

No Problem  ;). You can ask me anything you like ;D.
BTW, I'm not the best AI coder around.
Rei knows more elements than I do, H' codes the most 'Fair to Player AIs (I.E. CvS Iori)', and PotS overall is my favorite AI coder, creating an entire random mix of move,ent and attacks for his characters. Interesting codes you'll see are by Baiken/Byakko. Yes, even though... he is one of the few people I see that has ever incoporrated the Default AI into his chars and managed to pull off challenging AI.
LOL, Caddie's the man!! ;)

I'm as real as the runnin, I just happen to rap, Nigaas London, Japan, and i'm scared of dat tap.

I suggest extending my banning, cuz when I come back, it's gonna be hell. You think I was annoying before, oh man, it's on now :)
hjk vs. 99% of MFG. I will win.

RIP Poo Bear Tell my Dead Homie isson, for the year my partner.
Last Edit: September 22, 2007, 12:16:25 am by Tee Hee Hee

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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#25  September 22, 2007, 12:33:02 am
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I don't see what the obsession over AI is about. Back in my day, fighting games were two player deals.

hjk

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#26  September 22, 2007, 01:19:59 am
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felineki said, September 22, 2007, 12:33:02 am
I don't see what the obsession over AI is about. Back in my day, fighting games were two player deals.

For me its just sometjing fun to do.

When you stop collecting varied PUBLOC creations, then you wind up only playing the same AIs over and over. Eventually winning becomes a 100% job so...

I just decided for myself that playing chars over and over was boring so I decided to code AIs to do the job for me.
LOL, Caddie's the man!! ;)

I'm as real as the runnin, I just happen to rap, Nigaas London, Japan, and i'm scared of dat tap.

I suggest extending my banning, cuz when I come back, it's gonna be hell. You think I was annoying before, oh man, it's on now :)
hjk vs. 99% of MFG. I will win.

RIP Poo Bear Tell my Dead Homie isson, for the year my partner.

じゆう

Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#27  September 22, 2007, 01:25:38 am
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Lol, Vindicated Ken sucks and yes I am the one who created him.  --;
Well, I mean his AI it just makes him like a fool when you fight against him PLAYING as him, Lol.  ;P

Hmm.. The best character by far that I've played or faught against I say Vyn's Ryu.
This guy is tough.. I mean his attacks DAMN they link like nothing and also the fact that hes a parry monster.

hjk

Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#28  September 22, 2007, 01:51:47 am
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Fayt said, September 22, 2007, 01:25:38 am
Hmm.. The best character by far that I've played or faught against I say Vyn's Ryu.
This guy is tough.. I mean his attacks DAMN they link like nothing and also the fact that hes a parry monster.


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LOL, Caddie's the man!! ;)

I'm as real as the runnin, I just happen to rap, Nigaas London, Japan, and i'm scared of dat tap.

I suggest extending my banning, cuz when I come back, it's gonna be hell. You think I was annoying before, oh man, it's on now :)
hjk vs. 99% of MFG. I will win.

RIP Poo Bear Tell my Dead Homie isson, for the year my partner.

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[shadow=red,left][glow=red,2,300]Best Character EVER:[/glow][/shadow]
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[shadow=red,left][glow=red,2,300]Worst Character EVER[/glow][/shadow]
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That sound about right?   :sugoi:

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#30  October 22, 2008, 02:37:23 pm
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Re: best/worst chracter(s)
#32  October 22, 2008, 03:53:16 pm
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felineki said, September 22, 2007, 12:33:02 am
I don't see what the obsession over AI is about. Back in my day, fighting games were two player deals.
Since kids no longer need friends to play games, because of online gaming, that means there will be no one hogging the Street Fighter 2 machine

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#33  October 23, 2008, 12:30:55 am
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#34  October 23, 2008, 12:54:23 am
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#35  October 23, 2008, 12:56:37 am
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I did when me and my friend got Soul Calibur IV.


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