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Can anything be "impossible" to learn?
#1  September 07, 2012, 08:26:06 pm
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It seems possible for a normal human being to learn anything no matter how hard it is. I mean if a person put a gun to your head and you were forced to learn something, you WILL learn it it seems. This goes for languages,math,science,work, etc. Has there ever been a time that someone on this forum tried to learn something and just couldn't do it no matter how hard or determined they were to learn it or forced to learn it? and I want to know why they couldn't do it. It can be anything. One example of not being able to learn something was the Japanese in world war II when America used Native American language to send secret messages and the Japanese no matter how hard they tried couldn't understand it. I did some research on this and yeah, that Native American language is way too bizzare. For an example of the language, you have to say 10+ words just to say "army tank" in that language. BUT if someone was taught it properly I THINK they could understand the language even if its that strange. Also when I talk about learning I am talking about things already discovered and are known. Not things people have to discover/invent themselves.
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#2  September 07, 2012, 08:34:53 pm
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You can learn anything by heart and repeat it like a parrot. Then it's about how much you can proceed and remember, and how long it will take you to learn it.

But then it doesn't mean you'll be good at something.
- You can learn by heart all the words of a language and all the rules, but if you don't practice and even go to the country of this language, you'll never be able to speak it properly, without the good tones, accent, fluency, etc.
- You can learn by heart mathematical formulas, theorems and demonstration. However, this doesn't mean you'll be able to apply them correctly if one gives you a problem/exercise where you need said theorems to solve it.

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#3  September 07, 2012, 08:44:12 pm
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Is it more of a human "logic" thing? If a human has better logic than the other will they understand/do it better? Do you think? Or is there something else about learning?
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#4  September 07, 2012, 08:54:01 pm
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#5  September 07, 2012, 08:55:37 pm
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#6  September 07, 2012, 09:25:23 pm
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Speedy9199 said, September 07, 2012, 08:44:12 pm
Is it more of a human "logic" thing? If a human has better logic than the other will they understand/do it better? Do you think? Or is there something else about learning?
It's more a matter of capacities and will to succeed (both aren't related). It's also a matter of how your brain and mind is train to do something.

If you're good at Maths from the very beginning, then until the end of high school, you'll understand very quickly every thing the teacher says and won't even need to learn. Understanding is the core in science (well, Maths and Physics at least). You can learn things by heart, but if you didn't understand what you've just learned, you'll never be able to use it properly. So yeah, in this case, it may be a sort of "logic", i.e. how logical you are, but it's not limited to that.

For some other things, it's really about learning. To become a doctor, you have to learn by heart thousands of pages of lessons. Only when you know these things will you be able to diagnosis somebody. But it doesn't mean that knowing your medecine lessons will make you a good doctor.

For languages, once you've learned 3 languages, it usually becomes easier to learn other languages, probably because your mind gets used to learning new stuff.
Also, a baby's brain is very good to learn languages. If you teach your 3 years old child 3 languages, he'll be able to learn them much faster and easily than someone older.

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#7  September 07, 2012, 10:00:26 pm
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Doppelganger said, September 07, 2012, 09:25:23 pm
For languages, once you've learned 3 languages, it usually becomes easier to learn other languages, probably because your mind gets used to learning new stuff.
Also, a baby's brain is very good to learn languages. If you teach your 3 years old child 3 languages, he'll be able to learn them much faster and easily than someone older.

It becomes easier because you learn the various "aspects" of Latin. There are lots of similarities between European languages. But what you say it's true somehow

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#8  September 07, 2012, 10:06:08 pm
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Speedy9199 said, September 07, 2012, 08:26:06 pm
One example of not being able to learn something was the Japanese in world war II when America used Native American language to send secret messages and the Japanese no matter how hard they tried couldn't understand it.
No, that's a terrible example. The reason the Japanese couldn't decode the language is because they didn't know it was an actual language; they were treating it like a cipher.

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#9  September 07, 2012, 10:12:34 pm
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Jmorphman said, September 07, 2012, 10:06:08 pm
Speedy9199 said, September 07, 2012, 08:26:06 pm
One example of not being able to learn something was the Japanese in world war II when America used Native American language to send secret messages and the Japanese no matter how hard they tried couldn't understand it.
No, that's a terrible example. The reason the Japanese couldn't decode the language is because they didn't know it was an actual language; they were treating it like a cipher.

Thanks for correcting me but even if they knew it was a language it would be unbelievably hard to translate. The language consists of mostly NOTHING but verbs that I have read about it or at least where I read it.
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#10  September 07, 2012, 10:13:13 pm
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There are different kinds of people using different parts of their grey matter some more in touched with the artistic side and other's with the numerical and logistics side. There are people that will be able to see mathetical equations as puzzles and fitting the pieces together comes naturally, and there are others who it will seem completely foreign to since their reasoning comes from the opposite side of their grey matter. Eventually even those people can learn to stimulate both sides of their brain and learn although it would take significantly longer.

In regard to the ww2 The japanese  I'm guessing it was another display of ignorance and their god complex. The same kind of ignorance that came from their "Sons of the Sun" ideology They believed they were some kind of holy race that didn't need to engage themselves with the rest of the world and whenever they did it was always by force even in the 16 century sengoku era their ideology detached them from most of asia when countries like korea and china were prepared to learn from eachother.

Edit: Or what jmorphman said
Last Edit: September 07, 2012, 10:19:49 pm by LM_MAVERIK

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#11  September 07, 2012, 10:21:46 pm
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I'm pretty sure now in this modern Era, everybody or not most people have their own "Race/God" complex....
WW2 is pretty much over.. people still trying to bring up issues by reusing the WW2 as an excuse is getting pretty tiring. Especially playing the race card by utilizing WW2 for their advantage... AKA (Japanese Vs America Vs Germans ... and the list goes on). Let it not go to that topic.

@Topic at hand, you can learn "anything", if given the proper effort and the capacity of your brain to anaylze and connect the ideas of that certain "learning phenomenon". Though, I still want to know what is the purpose of this thread?

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#12  September 07, 2012, 10:26:39 pm
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SXVector said, September 07, 2012, 10:21:46 pm
Though, I still want to know what is the purpose of this thread?

I wanted to know if anyone here was NOT able to learn something for whatever reason and why, which no one has posted yet.
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#13  September 07, 2012, 10:26:48 pm
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I go by these two sayings to get through most everything I go through...

You can do it if you put your mind and effort to it.

If at first you don't succeed, try again.

Cliché yes, but its the right attitude to have when tackling nearly anything.

Things not learned from a book or by way of people always seem to come with personal experiences...that's when you need to adapt, develop and go above to make the right choice.
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#14  September 07, 2012, 10:36:14 pm
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it's impossible to learn how to kiss a chick. You just gotta do it.

it's impossible to learn how to be funny

it's impossible to learn how to be creative

it's impossible to learn any of these fuckin scandinavian dialect because they were obviously created by aliens or gods.

it's impossible to learn from her brothers and her dad, how to have sex with a gorgeous young muslim virgin. (except maybe if you have that stupid ass tightening pussy  cream mentionned in the other topic lolz)

edit / update :

it's impossible to learn how to live together in peace when you are palestinian living inside Israel.

it's impossible to learn from a chick, ... the truth. ("ooooh jeanbureau you're such a misogynic asshole omg" ---> kiss my ass - It's called humour)
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#15  September 07, 2012, 10:41:15 pm
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You're wrong, those things can be learned. And those jokes are horrible. :ninja:

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#16  September 07, 2012, 10:46:04 pm
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OF COURSE they can, that's the joke.

except for funny and creative. that was actually serious.

edit: actually, you can't learn to kiss a chick before you do it. seriously it's impossible. from a book to her lips there is a world.

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Speedy9199 said, September 07, 2012, 10:26:39 pm
SXVector said, September 07, 2012, 10:21:46 pm
Though, I still want to know what is the purpose of this thread?

I wanted to know if anyone here was NOT able to learn something for whatever reason and why, which no one has posted yet.

Everything I have wanted to learn I have learned. Not pounding on my chest here but for a guy that uses the more analytical and logical side of his brain, I have done pretty well to enhance my creative right side too.


@vector

I wasn't specifically referencing WW2 i was referencing  before and after the 16th century,  chinese ming dynasty, japanese sengoku era, korean baejke era. All the years the asian nations (some) spent learning from each other as well as warring with eachother

EDIT: jean

You can also learn to be funny and charismatic too. Low self esteem 1.0.1 Thats the alternative for people with low self confidence and people with physical disadvantages. A lot of these people learn to be funny and to laugh at themselves rather then be laughed at.  Rather then be the subject of a joke they in turn become the joker.
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#18  September 07, 2012, 10:52:09 pm
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i think you can feed your brain with new materials to exploit more creativity, but at the end of the day, you are creative or you are not . The knowledge is like material you use. Everybody is gonna use it in a different way.
some way will be shit, some way will be amazing.

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#19  September 07, 2012, 10:54:48 pm
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I see. During those Eras, it was pretty problematic in the first place. I believe the 16th century in China cause the isolation of the Koreans/Japanese (once was part of China as a certain tribe/dynasty). They do try to learn from each other, that's for sure, as well as having so many wars.


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#20  September 07, 2012, 10:57:09 pm
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JeanBureau † said, September 07, 2012, 10:46:04 pm
OF COURSE they can, that's the joke.

except for funny and creative. that was actually serious.

edit: actually, you can't learn to kiss a chick before you do it. seriously it's impossible. from a book to her lips there is a world.

Wait, so the joke is that they aren't jokes? :pwnonk:

Kissing is easy and it can be learned without actually performing it. Creative and funny are arbitrary.
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